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Thank you very much, people. How are you?
Okay.
Thank you, real -time regulars.
I appreciate it.
Thank you. You sound like a great crowd.
And I know why you're happy.
Great news.
Peace at last. We have an agreement, a deal, a peace deal. Not the Iran war.
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
That's who I'm talking about.
Man,
were you reading about this for like a year? All this arguing and suing, and
then it turns out no settlement money at all.
Just over a movie called It Ends With Us that everybody hated.
Did you see that movie?
It was harder to get through than the Strait of Hormuz.
Oh, yes.
Okay. Well, the war. Okay. So we are officially ended with Operation Epic
and now we have moved on to Project Freedom, which is also over.
Really?
No, I'm not kidding.
That was... Project Freedom. That was our attempt to escort the ship.
through the Strait of Hormuz, where there are now 1 ,800 ships stuck.
Last person who needed this many escorts was Hunter Biden.
But Iran, yeah, they are blocking
the Strait, and they say they're going to collect tolls now of all the ships,
and Trump is furious.
Furious that he didn't think of it first.
It's a game of chicken, and Trump said he wants the Iranians to know America
does not blink.
Lose interest and wander away? Yes. We should have all the time, but we don't
have it.
But we kind of have to.
We kind of have to, because we've apparently used up all our missiles.
Yeah, not all, but our stockpile is greatly depleted.
This is so ridiculous.
America, the most... strapped country in the world ran out of bombs. It's like
Diddy running out of baby oil. I mean... And...
But let's not be gloomy. It's Mother's Day
on Sunday. Do you have mothers?
I had one. It's very common.
And, of course, there's a baby boom over at the White House. You know this. The
administration, a lot of people having babies over there. And for the press
folks, you've seen her, Carolyn Leavitt.
Yes, she just, what timing, she just had a baby. And they asked her, you know,
are you excited to be a mom again? And she said, what a stupid question. Do
research.
Of course I'm excited to be a mom.
Now, listen.
If you are old enough to be watching this show, you were born when your
could have an abortion. She had the right to have an abortion.
And that is not the case anymore, really, in a lot of this country.
So maybe when you write a card this year, say, thanks, Mom, you could have
killed me and you didn't.
Oh, and... Speaking of killing, apparently they
found Jeffrey Epstein's suicide note.
Yeah, apparently it was from the guy, his cellmate, who Epstein says tried to
kill him.
But he's the guy who found the note.
And it says, they investigated me, and then in all caps it says, found nothing,
three explanation points.
What does that sound like?
I can't quite place it.
No,
I'm not deficient.
I'm not suspicious, but the note does end by saying, thank you for your
attention to this matter.
Okay.
Good news for Gen Z.
We may be wearing masks again.
Well, because you heard about the cruise ship? There's a cruise ship out there
that has hantavirus.
Ooh, probably this is nasty. Three people have died. Hantavirus.
And the first report said there was a flight attendant who got it from the
passenger. Boy, suddenly spirit doesn't sound that bad, does it?
But, no.
But, no. The flight attendant tested negative, which is good news, because it
would be ironic if the flight attendant had hantavirus and the cure was peanuts.
All right.
We've got a great show.
Representative Dan Crenshaw and Donna Brazile are here. But first up, he is a
Democratic senator from Pennsylvania, and he is my friend, Senator John
Fetterman is over here.
John?
Hi, how are you? Good to see you again.
All right.
John, you're wearing your good black. Did you have a speech on the Senate
floor or something where you had to look your best?
No, I like your outfit. I do.
So I read your op -ed today, I think it was, in the Washington Post.
And it's interesting because we often find ourselves sort of in the same place
politically, I think.
Exactly, yeah, where when your values haven't changed, but the party really
changed and it's kind of put you at odds.
Yeah, you use the term increasingly lonely. You said you feel increasingly
lonely as a Democrat. Do you want to unburden yourself and tell us about
Yeah, well, I mean, some people think it's like a glamorous life, and it is
at least for me. You know, we have... Plainly.
No,
I mean...
I mean, from a lonely perspective, you know, things that used to be part of our
values here as a party that they're shifted now, whether it's like
Israel and the Jewish community and now also the border security.
And then also recently, the two longest shutdowns in history. And I've,
you know, had to vote against.
The caucus, I don't enjoy that. But we used to be the party that would always
refuse to shut the government down.
And now we now have shut it down and dropped a lot of mass chaos. And I just
couldn't be a part of that.
Yeah, I think we get the same charge levied against us that we're picking
with the left.
We're not picking fights. We're just not avoiding them.
I mean, you used the term an orgy of socialism recently. You said that's what
you see in the Democratic Party. I do, too.
Yeah, well, I mean, you have whether it's like the mayor in Seattle. I mean,
she's absolutely a socialist in New York and a lot of these candidates across
the country.
And that's really moving towards that. And people that are proud to be labeled
as a socialist, that used to be like was a smear when I was running my first
cycle. And now that's becoming more normalized.
And now I think that's a very dangerous, slippery slope for us to be.
And now I've spoke to people that had to live under socialism and or communism.
And they are like they are morons if they think that socialism is the answer.
You know, I've lived under that. And thank God we are now. We already have a
great deal of socialism.
And I've made the point a million times on the show, as we should.
All Western democracies are quasi -socialist. There are certain things
government should do.
You don't want the private enterprise to be controlling the Marine Corps.
Social Security, Medicare,
Medicaid, obviously these things. We have socialism.
They're just proposing something way more than that. And by the way, you said
socialism, dirty word?
Yes and no.
What really was a dirty word, which isn't anymore, is communism.
I mean, this woman in New York who is Mayor Mondami's right -hand woman, she
tweets out, elect more communists.
This guy, Graham Plattner?
Yeah, it's not a slur if I refer to him as a communist.
That's his own term that he used for himself.
Yes. Antifa and these other kinds of extreme things.
Now, that's his own words. That's not my view, and I'm not using that as a slur.
But the idea that communist is not a dirty word, I think we need to pause
and say, okay, this is a watermark. This is a watershed mark.
a moment in American history where we could pay attention.
And my guess is, because AI is going to be taking everybody's jobs,
communism is only going to get more popular.
Well, I sure hope not.
Because, you know, like, if our party, it's like that, it's that expression,
know. Bad ideas refuse to die. And now that's coming back. And a lot of this,
the Trump and the backlash is making more and more things possible in the
Democratic Party.
And I'm going to consistently going to resist that kinds of extremes and those
extremes that cost us in 2024.
We all have to remember that we need to have an election against both sides.
We're accountable for both sides and these and these kinds of states that
depend to deliver.
for the presidency, and that's why I refuse to be engaged.
I know how to pay the bills as a Democrat right now, and my colleagues
people that are running, whether for the Senate or the House, they are literally
running on fuck Trump.
I mean, that's literally, they have campaign commercials.
that and it's it's it's absurd and we are getting to that point and i refuse
engage in that extreme uh those terms and we have to find a better way forward
and now i've been punished to try to find value in certain views now like
ballroom you know we've talked about that i don't care about the ballroom i
don't either yeah i mean it's like so stupid it's such a rorschach test of
whether you just hate yeah because first of all like we saw with the
assassination attempt a couple of weeks ago, America probably does need... You
know what the problem is? I said it to you today on the podcast, which I think
is on next week.
It's the word.
Ballroom. It sounds good.
Ballroom. Sounds like, you know, fops are pirouetting around.
And if they called it the State Dinner National Center, it would be different.
But this is America. And we don't want people sitting in tents to have dinner.
mean, it's just... I mean, you know, I was two tables away at the White... The
White House Correspondents' Dinner. I've witnessed this. From the killing?
Yeah. From the attempt, you mean?
Yeah. And that's, I had to see that I'm like the entire line of succession was
right there and realized that we've put, there's real danger there. We got
really lucky there for a lot of reasons. So now we need to have a more secure,
more secure to do these kinds of events. But I don't care about, you know, just
build it. I mean, he won't even be president if it's even finished.
Yeah. I mean, concentrate on the big things, the things that really matter.
Exactly. Trying to say here. So there's no there's no truth, right, that you're
actually going to switch parties. I know Trump has offered you. I mean, you said
I would be a shitty Republican.
Yeah. Yeah.
And, you know, if I if I ever decide to change and I won't, I'll be, you know,
have me on and I will announce that.
But it's not going to it's like, you know, I'm a committed Democrat, even
though. No, if I vote 93 percent of the time with the Democrats, I thought we
were supposed to be a big tent party. So that's I'm not really sure how I become
an issue for any of the Democrats just to having some different views in these
other issues. You said before.
You're pro -choice, you're pro -weed, you're pro -gay rights, you're pro
You also throw in there, I'm pro -rib eye and not bio -slop. I don't know why
that has to go in there.
That sounds like a great Republican to me. But what is your thing with, look,
and by the way, I don't eat fake meat either.
I mean, my friends at PETA would love it if I did. But, look, I mean, the
science is the science. I don't think that stuff is really better for you than
organic real meat. I mean, it's certainly not better for the animal at
killed.
as far as the science goes, but you actually want to bend.
That doesn't seem... Yeah, I just think, I mean, as I'm a member of the
Agriculture Committee, and I really stand with our farmers now. And now, of
course, we don't want, like, the factory farm situation, absolutely opposed to
aminal cruelty.
But for me, if I lived on Mars, yeah, you know, those kinds of...
What's the lab meat would be a great opportunity. But for me right now, like
it's... But you want to ban it? I mean, shouldn't people have the right to eat
it? It's like actively. I mean, if people have a chance to... But
overall, for me, I think, you know, someone that's really... I mean, we are
just... I thought, you know, the really highly, highly processed food. I mean,
that's exactly the essence of that.
Yeah, but there's a lot worse highly processed food. I mean, I could go into
supermarket and pick up... Well, we don't want to ban all of that. People
the right to eat what they want, don't they? I mean, don't tell the population
of America that they can't eat what they want.
Do you think they're up in arms about shit now?
You'll really have a riot on your head.
Overall, it's not a top priority for me, given everything else that's happening
right now. So overall, as someone that is a committed Democrat, I find myself
isolated by my party as things continue.
I'm going to just have play, you know, ball strikes and just.
Yeah. OK, well, you know, I'm your fan because the Democratic Party certainly
needs someone to keep them honest.
And it's the band in the shorts.
Thank you.
All right, John Fetterman, he's going to tower over me now.
All right, let's meet our panel.
Thank you, John.
Hello. Hello, Barbara.
How are you? All right, he is a Republican congressman for a couple more
from Texas, author of the best -selling book Fortitude, and host of the podcast
Hold These Truths with Dan Crenshaw, Representative Dan Crenshaw.
And to the veteran political strategist, ABC News, and former DNC chair, Donna
Brazile is over here.
All right.
Okay.
So the midterm elections are about six months away, and it usually happens this
party out of power does well in the midterm elections. And the party in
right now is historically unpopular.
Mostly because of what I call the three I's. That would be ice, Iran, and
inflation.
And it seemed only a few weeks ago, maybe months ago, that it would be
impossible for the Democrats to lose this election.
No way.
Well, headline today, way.
There is a way.
And it's because of what they do when they don't win, they cheat.
So this is the big story today, gerrymandering. This has gone nuclear.
And Republicans are winning the gerrymander war. We talked about it last
but a lot has changed since then. As you know, it started with Texas, your
state. Trump said, gerrymander Texas.
Okay, so they got like four or five new seats in Texas.
California responded and said, okay, we're going to do the same thing. All
right, so now this is a terrible road to go down, but at least we're even.
Okay, now the Supreme Court ruled last week on the Voting Rights Act.
is different now. Eight states have new maps now.
And five more are planning to.
Texas, Florida, Ohio, Missouri, North Carolina.
They're all now more Republican.
These states that had districts that minorities were electing candidates
Virginia did it on the Democratic side. And the Supreme Court in the state said
they can't.
So that's a big loss for the Democrats.
They're not going to get that to even the score.
And Tennessee now.
Show them up at the Tennessee.
This is really what's going on here. Look at this.
They've taken Memphis, a majority black city, and they moved it into three
different districts to dilute the vote.
Now, I'm going to turn this over to the former chair of the DNC for your
commentary, because I'm sure you have a lot to say. Well, first of all, it's
always a great honor to be back here in California with Bill, and
congratulations on your Mark Twain Award.
Oh, thanks a lot.
I mean, you know, Bill, I can't keep up with you, baby. Every time I... I
go for months, Congressman, without seeing this man, and he makes all kinds
trouble. I have to come back in and clean up your shit.
I mean... Talk about a
desperate housewife. Come on, baby.
Please don't step up. But let me just say this, Bill.
Let me just say this.
The rumors that the Democratic Party is dead, those rumors are as old as
Methuselah. We have about 179 days. It's going to be a tough election, no
question about it. But you know what?
We have a small tailwind. No, I do not like what's going on with redistricting.
You know why, Bill?
I've come from one of those states that all of a sudden the Supreme Court said,
well, we don't like.
Partisan gerrymandering. No, we don't like racial gerrymandering. So one out
three voters in Louisiana is a black voter. One out of three. And they're now
thinking of eradicating.
So that's as if people from some parts of Louisiana can represent New Orleans
better than the folks who represent all Baton Rouge. It's wrong, it's immoral,
and it's unjustified. Bill, let me just say this.
And I saw what the congressman tweeted today after Tim Kaine.
But here's it. I'm old enough to know this. Well, what did he tweet? I don't
know. Well, he's going to have โ I'm going to โ Tim Kaine is wrong. Well,
wrong. No, he's not. He's not usual.
He's saying, well, the Constitution is โ they made it based on Constitution.
They made it based on โ they said, well, the voters were already voting when the
state โ put this law into place so that the voters can decide. The voters
decided in, as you all know, California. The voters decided in Virginia.
Politicians did not choose their voters. But I have one broad question. Well,
they've done it forever.
What?
Don't I know that, Bill?
The Constitution.
1787. Wait a minute.
1787.
1787. I'm going to give you my film camera.
1787, the Constitution.
When did my family get the right to vote, Bill?
1965. 61 years ago. So my daddy served in war and could not vote for that. My
grandparent, my grandmother was 77 when she got the right to vote. Yeah, I'm on
your side. So we understand.
Are you on my side? Yeah, of course. I didn't know.
If you're on the side of the Constitution, you're on the side of
So, Congressman, I will let you describe why you went into Tim Kaine's ass
today.
You know, praising.
He's the last act I would go into.
Okay.
Cade was making the case that the Supreme Court doesn't know what it's
about and that they're misreading it. I pointed out that he should. I know
reading is time -consuming, but you might read the actual.
case that the Supreme Court wrote. It's very well written. It's very logically
written. It's pretty irrefutable. I mean, it was a 10 to 1 vote.
They're making the case that the constitutional amendment was in itself
unconstitutional because of the process they followed. That's what the Supreme
Court argued.
It was not about the ability to politically gerrymander. I'll start with
one principle, just taking a step back here.
Your state can do political redistricting.
That's how our federal constitution is written.
If we'd like a better system and we're smarter than the founders, then we can
figure out a better way to do that. But it's inherently political.
Every state has a different way of doing it. Some have independent commissions
or bipartisan commissions. Even those are chosen in a political way, a
process. It will always be political, so just get used to it. Okay. But second,
one more thing to point out. To say we're winning.
Republicans are winning the redistricting war.
I think we're catching up. And if I can point to the facts on, look, if you go
to Illinois, you've got a 14 to 3 ratio.
Washington, you've got a 10 to 2 ratio.
New England has like a 21 to 0 ratio.
California, out of 52 representatives, they're going to have maybe five, six
Republicans.
You know, in Texas, we're 30 to 10. Florida is now going to be 20 to 7.
Democrats have been winning this battle for a long time.
I'm not sure about that. North Carolina.
10 -4.
10 Republicans, 4 Democrats.
Ohio, 10 Republicans, 5 Democrats. Texas, 25 Republicans, 13. In a state
majority -minority. Let me just show you. Why does skin color automatically
impose political belief?
Because... Race has always been identified as a political consideration,
only as it relates to the Constitution of the United States, but also how it is
implemented at the state level. That's why these districts were always drawn,
that they took race into consideration.
So that's my point.
I guess the history of the United States. Well, it's a history, but as we
out of that history, which I hope we would have by now, an enlightened
would not say that your skin color is an immutable characteristic as an
indicator of your political position.
To me, this is always the problem with the Supreme Court. They don't really
into account practical effect.
Remember the Citizens United ruling?
about as much dark money as you want in politics, and Obama was at the State of
the Union, and he said, this is going to change everything in Alito mouth.
No.
Yes. Yes. Yes, it did. They don't take this into account.
As I said last week, I guess you didn't watch the show. They're not supposed to.
They're literally not supposed to take that into account. I know, but I said,
we're not living in the future.
It would be nice if that was where. And we are way, way different than we were
20 years ago, 50 years ago. The world is very different. And I've certainly
taken my shit from the left for pointing out constantly that they are hyper
-focused on race. And when they say things like, racism has never been
you're just ridiculous. But we are also not living in the future.
Show this map, please. This is what the map could look like in the South.
of what it used to look like. See those blue? Those are blue districts.
This is what it's going to look like now.
There are districts that have been carved out so that minorities are
represented, for sure. That is racial gerrymandering.
It has to happen until we are living in the present.
in the future, and we're not. And if you think that you're going to take away
all these black representatives in the United States Congress without
repercussions, I mean, you take away that many and have them, black people
scant representation in Congress, this is not going to stay. The new governor
Florida is likely going to be black.
White Republicans are voting him in. First of all, let me just say this.
For most of my childhood, I was represented by a white female, Lindy
was outstanding, amazing.
And when the moment came in history that she said, you know, I have served my
time, and this is an opportunity now to expand the electorate, to give more
people a seat at the table. Look, we have black representatives, as you well
know, who represent largely white. I mean, we had Utah.
Two blacks, not one. They're Republicans. And by the way, if you can
black Republicans, go ahead. I'll elect more black Democrats.
We got a black Democrat out of Rhode Island. We got a black Democrat in
Washington State. Ain't nothing wrong with being black and living in Nebraska
Kansas. That's okay. What I'm saying is that in the South, where half the black
population resides, we should not be told that we no longer have a seat at
table. We do not. I do watch it.
I went to my party night and I went on ABC on Sunday hotter than July. So I
said, I got to stop watching Bill because you really piped me up, baby. I
want to lose my job.
You piped me up. I don't know. I said, whoo, whoo.
And by the way, nobody gave us a voting right. We bled for it.
Okay.
What I want to say about the Supreme Court decision here, so that people are
informed about it, is they struck down this idea, and it's an idea, it's not
written in statute.
It's an idea that there has to be minority -minority districts.
That was not in the Voting Rights Act. There's nowhere in there that says that.
It's been interpreted, it's become tradition.
You're right about the letter of the law. But you know what? Find a new law.
That's why you have a whole book behind you. Then write a new law.
That's the process.
We got one, the John Lewis Bowdoin right back, and I hope you become a sponsor.
We would love your support. If the majority of the American people want
and again, again, I would just, I would do it.
How many, how many kisses?
Just one kiss?
You don't want my foot.
I'm going to kiss. Look, we need support.
Make it weird. Make it weird. And by the way, I'm not weird.
There's nothing freaky about me.
Hello, unless I'm in the kitchen with my apron on.
It's coming from things, man.
Okay. Look, the Boomer Wives Act ended all kinds of schemes that kept not just
blacks still, but poor whites.
Think about the poll tax.
Think about the literacy tax.
It was necessary.
Absolutely necessary. So it was important that we struck down those laws
those rules so that we could have free and fair elections across the country. I
am worried that we're all going to be able to go to the South and want to see
the SEC play.
Oh, we got black athletes. But they have no representation.
Where is it?
Oh, through the South.
Who doesn't? I mean, you're going to see black athletes playing this fall,
throwing for LSU, throwing for Tennessee, Alabama, but no black
in Congress. Oh, I see what you're saying. That's my point is, you know, I
very disturbed by this. I'm disturbed that we're turning back at a time when
America's about to turn two -fifths. I got my red, white, and blue gown, baby.
You going to turn me to Dallas?
I mean, again.
The letter of the law is written for a perfect world. We don't live in that
perfect world. I don't mean to speak for the black population. You live in a
lawful world.
No, I can't speak for white people either. Okay, I'm just channeling the
folks I know.
They like white people more than they used to because we are nicer than we
to be.
But trust us?
No. And I don't blame them.
So there's just a lot of black folks who are not quite ready to vote for the
white representative.
representative. They don't understand their life because we are still a
country in many ways. I mean, when my friend Killer Mike puts out an album, I
have to read the lyrics and even then I don't understand it.
I'm serious.
I'm saying this to make a point.
If that's the case, it's as different from English as Chaucer is.
And that's just...
pointing out that we are not quite living in the future. Well, if you want
start living in the future, you have to go back to original principles, and
original principles say that immutable characteristics such as skin color
not be an indication of your character.
That's an original principle. That's a foundational liberal principle.
In a Constitution where slavery was legal.
And then we fought a war to end it. I know. Because of our Declaration of
Independence and the values, those original principles that we stated
that was used as the argument against slavery by the Republicans. And look,
maybe we need another period of enlightenment because I'm going back to
those theories that gave us this so -called great Constitution, the Bill of
Rights, and of course the Declaration of Independence. independence but let me
just say this as you all know it took women almost 144 years to get secure the
right to vote and and look we just had to fight once again for a medication
is safe safe the fifth circuit saying that we should not receive our
in the mail it's medication and people keep saying it's abortion pill women
to have full access to the range of reproductive health care no one should
having a miscarriage
All right, I have to move on.
I have to move on.
Very important thing.
Wait, wait, let me tell you what this is. A couple of weeks ago, maybe a month
ago, I did a whole editorial about aliens because, you know, the world has
changed now. I mean, it used to be the people who were talking about it were
the most serious people in the world, and now they are. It is the most...
Serious people, military people, two movies, one is a documentary, one is the
Spielberg movie that's coming out. They both use the word disclosure in the
title. We seem to be at that place. Trump is on board with this. He keeps
teasing that we are going to see the files. Well, today was the day they
released. A lot of the files.
Now, some of it is probably nothing. Some of it is interesting that I never
heard before, like the astronauts on the Apollo 17 flight saw things that they
were talking about that they thought was strange. Do you think they were really
there, though? Oh, I don't know. But what I do know, and don't ask me how we
it, we got a hold of the, absolutely, we got a hold of the stuff.
Some of this hasn't even been released yet. Would you like to hear? This is all
about what we don't know about the aliens.
All right.
For example, oh, this is so interesting right here. They never wash the anal
probe.
What else? Oh, their central computer was once destroyed by the illogic of
Dakota getting two senators.
Oh.
They don't reproduce through physical contact, just like Gen Z.
Sometimes after the anal probe, they say, now do me.
Oh, very interesting. They did build the pyramids and also gave us the Bible,
but only as a joke.
Oh. They refer to the missing Malaysian airliner as our bag.
Oh.
This is kind of sad. In the universe, we're considered a shithole planet.
I find that...
Pass it. They have over 27 different
genders, five fewer than at NYU.
They don't say, take me to your leader. They say, wait, this is your leader?
And also, they want to know why the Michael movie left out all the stuff
kids. All right.
I want to talk
about the Met Gala. I have never talked about it.
I thought you just were.
I know.
The outfits are pretty much what the aliens might have.
You wanted proof. There's your proof. I never talked about it because I guess I
never really understood it. There was a lot of controversy about it this year,
so I'm reading about it.
It's actually a charity. You know, the show, some of the people, I mean, this
happens every year. The celebrities show up and they're wearing just the most
outrageous things. I just thought, oh, they're celebrities. They're fucking
nuts. That's what they do.
They just, they're weird. and they were attention whores and they just wear
weird shit. I've seen them do it in other places. No, this is actually a
for the Costume Institute at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Okay, I
that. It's like fashion and art, not like for poor people. This year there's
lot of controversy because it was apparently sponsored by Jeff Bezos.
Spent $10 million for it and they got very upset about this. The people I call
the liberals in theory.
And some people said they weren't going to go. Turned out just about everybody
went. And I guess the question I'm asking is, for the party that's always
talking about money and have kind of made making money evil, now, I do
that there should be an upper number that we tax on, that you can't have more
money than, you know, some of these people have over $500 billion.
That's crazy. But I am the farthest thing from a socialist.
I think making money is good.
Wanting to be rich is good.
Part of what makes America America, we conform to human nature, which is
But you can't have it both ways. I mean, Beyonce was there. She's wearing a
$50 million necklace and the Queen of Calari Diamond.
Wow, I don't even know her. And I say you go, girl.
Look, I know her mother, but Beyonce, call me.
I think I need to help her.
I need to help her. Okay. Okay.
I need to help her. No, but no, she's a fabulous. But don't you think... It's
fine, Ray. She might have rented that shit, Bill. You know, she needs it.
So they can brand it. I know. They give it to her to wear. And I say good.
I'm glad.
Everybody should be able to do what they want in America and be as rich as they
want. Not quite as rich as they want. I take that back.
Don't steal my money, though. Don't steal the taxpayers' money. I'm sick of
shit right now.
I'm sick of it. Just too many grassy green people stealing our money.
Move out.
Well, I was saying this the other week. You know, the problem is that when
Bernie Sanders says billionaires and billionaires, it's so outdated.
Millionaires? You know that one out of six households in America are
millionaires? One out of six. So when you say billionaires and you lump them
this is what I was complaining about. Please don't lower my property value.
right now, Bernie.
But, you know.
Claiming you don't pay taxes. I pay a shit ton of taxes. Me too.
It's the super rich who don't pay taxes. In fact, I call my husband Sam.
He's a paper man.
I pay him. And by the way, Gladys, Miss California, just gave me $4 back. I came
on your show twice last year and I owed them money, Bill. What the hell's wrong
with you?
You're bringing me out here to pay your taxes. That's enough.
Come on now.
I mean, Bill, you're right.
Your love is, you know, I can call the Democratic capitalist. That's because of
my house.
I mean, shit, I grew up in poverty.
I've earned my money. I've earned the right. I love my nieces and nephews.
given them everything I can.
I want to enjoy the rest of my life. Right. Okay?
But I also, here's where Bernie is.
Here's Bernie's point. Bernie believes that we live in two Americas.
Two Americas. And it's wrong that one set of Americans can no longer afford
American dream. One set of Americans keep, you know, working harder and
to pay more. And the other set seem like the rules are working for them.
So that's Bernie's point. He may not be talking in 21st century language. I
know, but he's got it updated. Because millionaires, it's like saying, here's a
dime for the phone. Okay, it's a quarter now, and we don't even have those
anymore.
He's also, I mean, he's misrepresenting the truth, so he's got to stop doing
that as well. So, I mean, we just go from statistics, like, where does
revenue come from? They're not paying their fair share. Well, the top 1 % pays
40 % of federal revenue.
The bottom 50 % pays 3 % of federal revenue.
Is that fair?
Is that proportion fair?
This is a subjective question.
We actually believe in our country, and we have for a long time, that there
should be a progressive tax system. It's one of the most progressive, if not the
most, in the world when you conclude state and local.
So the rich, not even, it's not even that everybody plays their, like, 20%.
the rich pay a higher percentage in addition to. So the idea that they're
not paying taxes is factually incorrect just by the numbers. So the question is
then, like, what?
What is fair? How are we defining it? Or is it just a populist rallying cry to
build on resentment that people have? But would you say there should be an
limit? In other words, if your personal wealth is worth 2 % of gross national
product, couldn't we be able to cap something on the upper limit? No?
A trillion dollars?
Why? Why? Where do they do it? Is that money in a checking account? That
not in a checking account, first of all. They're using that to buy.
We're talking about Elon, because I think that's the only person who even
close to that.
How many companies and basic things have they started? How many people have they
employed? How many investments have they made?
It's not like it's just sitting in a checking account.
The guy's working 24 hours a day.
And also, that top 1 % is a very fluid group of people, too. It's not the same
people. It's usually made up of new people who, like, sold their business.
worked forever to build and finally sold it that year. They get lumped into the
1%, and then they're out the next year. And wealthy Americans can afford
accountants that can find those loopholes. They understand how to get
when they want to move their companies into the state and say, hey, if you, you
know, make sure I don't have to pay property taxes for the next 20 years.
the system is not working. That's why so many Americans are right now
disgruntled. That's why Donald Trump is underwater, even on his strongest
attributes.
My Democrats are the big, beautiful, ugly pieces of shit.
Seriously, you're going to close rural hospitals?
You're going to take people off of Medicare? We put $50 billion into rural
hospitals, literally put it into hospitals. And meanwhile, we can't
health care for average Americans working $65 ,000 a year. You can afford
lot less if you're paying more doctors.
All right.
$2 ,000 more.
No, the American dream should be affordable for all people. That's my
I know. And I still lie to you.
The fact is that health care is expensive because Obamacare made it
They created a market that is completely unviable. I love that you believe
narratives, folks. I love it. But you've got to look at the facts and health
care policies, what actually happens in insurance markets.
Well, they have health care, but it is true that very often they can't use it.
Because part of that is because the Republicans tried every way they could
rat -fuck Obamacare after it was passed. They didn't even know. The Democrats
passed it and said, well, we'll read it afterwards.
I mean, they didn't know it was in it either.
Okay. I mean, they took out some of the... I mean, it was... The only thing
got changed was zeroing out the tax penalty for not buying it. Well, you
have a replacement for it. So until you have a replacement, we should keep what
is working that keep America healthy and safe.
Honestly, not working, we don't have any complaints about it.
Oh, yeah.
They are compiling all of our samples.
And it's like they stopped this time.
People are worried about their property insurance.
They're worried about being able to pay for flood insurance.
Well, then why do you guys want to raise their taxes?
We don't want to raise their taxes. Every Democrat voted against our primary
bill that we all got elected, and we did this first. Because you made tax cuts
permanent. Yes, we made tax cuts permanent. At the same time, you have
after wars after wars, and we cannot pay for it. We're about to raise the
defense budget to $1 .5 trillion while we bring in new ornament and new
ammunition and new munitions. We're changing the subject.
Let's do that. Let's change the subject.
Wait, wait, wait. I want to change the subject.
This subject.
Because, I mean, depending on budget, they're asking for a $600 billion
increase. That is big. In an age when we are finding out from the Ukrainian
war, it's drones, baby.
And drones are cheap.
So what are we spending?
It's not as crazy as it sounds. One, we're waking up to the fact. Nobody
that they could fight Russia to a standstill. I didn't. I thought they
going to lose that war, and they did.
That is the nature of warfare.
The Gatling gun comes along, machine guns come along, planes, tanks, and the
offense versus defense changes, and wars change. We are at that moment now.
Wars are completely being changed by drones, and it seems like we are
the last war as well as fighting the last one.
No, we're not.
To make you feel better, we absolutely are investing a lot into drones, drones
of all types, from space down to the bottom of the ocean.
Space is the new frontier.
You know, China has known this for a while, that space is a warfare domain.
have refused to believe it for a long time.
And there's finally investments in that space.
And so a lot of this money is Golden Dome, a lot of this, which, you know,
in Reagan's days and Star Wars, like the technology was not there, but now it
is. But you've got to invest in it and put it out there.
One of the reasons I've been in L .A. all week is visiting all these space
companies that are out here.
Because L .A. has one of the, just has the ecosystem of labor that works in the
space industry.
It's flourishing.
People like...
And companies like SpaceX have obviously pioneered that. So a lot of investment
in that. A lot of investment in paying it forward to save the taxpayer money in
the long run. So instead of the stupid way that we often have bought weapons or
new munitions, we pay more and more and more later because we tell companies,
like, hey, we might buy some later.
And so what does that do? It raises the cost of production every time. So no,
put an actual amount seven years out. So a lot of it is paying it forward and
putting that investment in now.
AI is another big one that you have to invest in.
Shipbuilding industry as well. So that's the reason for that massive increase.
And it's not obvious that it would be to continue to be that. But Bill, the
problem is it's like a layer cake. Well, you put on the bottom layer and then
we've got a top layer and another layer. Well, this is the bottom layer is going
to stay the same.
which is about $600, $700 billion, and then we add another $200.
I used to work on Capitol Hill, and the defense budget, you know, it's like
going to a jewelry store, and you're like, I like that one, I like that one,
like that one. We need to have a new strategic framing for 21st century wars,
and you're absolutely right. We can learn a lot from Ukraine, but we
keep layering and layering and layering as if the taxpayers can afford this.
We have to close it there.
Thank you for all your...
Spirited discussion time for new rules, everybody.
New rules. All right.
New rule, we can all support the police, but it does have its limits. Like for
this officer who was convicted of stripping naked and masturbating in a
And I would just like to say to him, you keep your hands where we can see them.
I would say you're a disgrace to the uniform, but I see you've sidestepped
issue already.
Neurobaroness, the longest verifiably measured wild snake in the world.
Better not be lying when it claims to be 23 feet 8 inches long.
Because if we go on a date and it turns out barrenness is really 23 feet 4
inches, I'm going to be pissed.
I said it in my profile, no games, no liars.
The next time a toddler gets stuck inside one of those arcade claw
parents have to buy a couple rolls of quarters and try to win them back.
I pay thousands in tax dollars to have fire and rescue pull your kid out of a
box. I pay thousands in tax dollars to have fire and rescue pull lost dumbasses
off the sides of mountains.
New rules since the Met Ball and the Kentucky Derby happened in the same
Next year, they have to swap outfits.
The stupid, ridiculous hats that people wear to the derby, I want to see those
on Kim Kardashian, Bad Bunny, and Doja Cat.
And at the derby, the redneck who loves the animal abuse that is horse racing
must come dressed like this.
New World, the winner of the European Seagull Screeching Championship.
Must be referred to as the loser.
Because anyone can screech like that. There's a homeless guy on Hollywood
Boulevard who does it all the time.
You want to prove you can act like a seagull? Steal a french fry out of my
while I'm eating.
And finally, new rule, Luigi Mangione, Cole Thomas Allen, Tyler Robinson, and
the ghost of Thomas Crooks must form a boy band called New Kids on the Glock.
Just to drive home the point, these are not your father's political assassins.
Things have changed.
For one thing, today's assassins have popular support with the kids. Up to 40
of America's young adults say violence is okay to achieve a political goal.
Wow. Seems like five minutes ago when one of the big causes of the left was
control, but now guns are the answer?
I guess, because Luigi is a fucking rock star.
He's the OG hot assassin.
The young assassins coming up even name -check him in their manifestos.
When this guy was arrested for burning down a giant warehouse, he said it was
like when Luigi popped that motherfucker.
Before this college student threw a Molotov cocktail at Sam Altman's
talked about Luigi -ing some tech CEOs.
And the asshole currently on trial for allegedly starting the big fire out here
last year was Luigi's biggest fanboy.
Good to see the kids have role models, huh?
Another way this new breed of content creator assassins is different, they
jokes.
Cole Allen called himself a friendly federal assassin and told his friends he
was going to D .C. for a personal emergency, wink wink.
His manifesto opens with, hello everybody.
It sounds like that form letter I get every Christmas telling me how everyone
doing in a family I don't care about.
Tyler Robinson wrote little jokes on the bullets he fired at Charlie Kirk.
Things like, if you're reading this, you're gay, lol.
I mean, John Wilkes Booth was an asshole, but at least when he did the
said something serious.
Thick -tempered tyrannist. Not, I fucked your mom.
took selfies before enacting his diabolically clever plan of running
You know, Cole, why do I think this is more about you than the cause?
You're running through the metal detector, but maybe you're really
clout.
Allen wrote that he was consumed by rage thinking about everything this
administration has done.
Yeah, join the club.
Donald Trump is infuriating. I know this personally. That's why whenever I'm
around him, I'm so nervous I need a drink right away.
If you're doing that much rage thinking about Trump, you're not really mad
at him. You're mad at your life.
This is about being 31 and still living with your mom in Torrance.
Life was supposed to come out better. This guy went to Caltech for Christ's
sake. He dreamed of being a video game designer, but really was a substitute
teacher. Do you think if he'd ever sold actually a video game and got rich, he'd
be doing this?
Look, I feel for that generation.
You guys grew up with the iPhone, which fucks people up, and now AI.
No wonder you're always wearing a hoodie in the fetal position.
Plus, as long as you can remember, the president has either been dead or this
guy.
So... Sympathy for you, yes.
But also, it's always been thus.
Sadly, your parents and teachers didn't prepare you for this, so you have no
idea how hard or easy you have it. But because you're so entitled, you just
assume you have it tougher than anybody ever did. You don't. In fact, your
generation lives an historically easy life.
You can get sushi or a weighted blanket delivered in hours.
You can do your banking sitting on the toilet.
They sell weed in a store now.
In a financial pinch, you can sell pictures of your feet.
Your biggest hardship is when the Wi -Fi drops and you have to briefly
experience the 20th century.
And yet you've convinced yourselves that your current level of discomfort
justifies revolutionary violence.
Cole Allen's life only sucked by his own unreasonable standard.
He wasn't on welfare. He was on LinkedIn.
For his assassination attempt, he stayed at the Hilton.
If your assassination comes with Hilton honors rewards points.
Gen Z lives are not that bad. Most of our lives here in America are not. How
live right now, in the year we're actually living in, in the country we're
actually living in, doesn't warrant condoning political violence.
I can see it if you live under a truly oppressive regime, communism, fascism,
Catholicism.
But that's not where we are now.
You're not storming the beaches at Normandy. You're not standing in bread
You know, just like our No King we had here, the protests, they also had them
Iran. But over there, the protesters got shot in the street. And yes, I did
that, too, twice. The Iranian thugs did it 30 ,000 times.
Have some perspective.
Get real.
Stop blaming America for all your fuck -ups. What this is really about for
today's young assassins is when life lets you down and doesn't properly
you for being the awesome person you're sure you are.
There's one big save left. Convince yourself you were meant for a cause
than yourself.
And for Cole Thomas Allen, it was, I'm fighting Hitler.
And I get why that's a tempting thing to cosplay.
If Trump is Hitler, then you're Tom Cruise in Valkyrie.
Nobody's trying to take him out.
Yeah.
I get mistaken for something.
It's a theme show. What can I say?
But Trump isn't Hitler, and you're not Tom Cruise, and you don't really live on
the desert moon of an evil umpire. You live in Torrance, which I understand is
not exactly L .A. or London, but please, you're not in Haiti or Afghanistan.
You're at Coachella.
Life doesn't really suck so bad. You would just rather be a martyr than
The whole tone of Cole Allen's manifesto was, sorry guys, but America needs me.
A hero has risen.
You're not a hero.
You're just a guy who runs out into the field during a baseball game to get
attention and in 10 seconds gets tackled by security, except in your case, no,
that's exactly your case.
All right, that's our show, I want to thank.
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