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Joel is brilliant.
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He's like Mr.
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Harvard, Yale, Stanford guy. And he's
also really, really strong.
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I'm asking you for both of our stakes to
become my ally again.
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It's a little bit weird for me because I
feel like I'm kind of like the
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godfather of something arranging a hit
on somebody.
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I don't know if I'm entirely comfortable
with it.
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Welcome back to the Survivor Cook
Islands reunion show. We are live in
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where Yule has just won a million
dollars in a very close dramatic vote.
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You know, I kind of said it before as we
read the votes, but I got to
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acknowledge both of you guys with all
due respect to Becky as well for doing
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well. But you two dominated this game.
You deserve to be in the final two. It's
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the first time I've ever felt bad that
somebody.
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Didn't win in the case of Ozzie. I mean,
I'm happy for you, Ewell, but it was so
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evenly matched.
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It was really great.
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So, agreed.
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Ewell, let's go through some of the keys
because in looking back over the
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season, you did so many things right to
keep you in the power position of the
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game. You absolutely deserved it. I
didn't mean to take anything away from
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Going back to the first thing, finding
the idol.
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In the totem pole of events, how big was
that?
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It was huge.
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I mean, there's a lot of luck involved
in playing this game. I got sent at the
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right time, and I think the key to
winning the game is maximizing the good
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and mitigating the bad luck.
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I got sent at the right time. I found
the idol, and I really played it the way
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wanted to play it, which was not to save
my own butt one time, but to really
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change the game up. And we had that
opportunity, and it really flipped
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its head.
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Another big moment that could have
destroyed...
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you and the rest of I2 was the mutiny.
What was your first reaction when you
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Candice and then Jonathan step out?
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We're screwed.
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I thought that was it. I mean, they had
the numbers, they had the thighs.
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I didn't realize at the time what an
amazing challenge demon Ozzy was.
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I mean, but I mean, at that time, I
thought our game was over and I thought
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was just a matter of trying to come out
with, you know, a good ending for the
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four of us.
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Candice, why mutiny? That's a risky move
to make in the middle of the game
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with... You had no idea that was coming.
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Right. Well, like you said, you know, we
had a chance to change our fate in the
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game. And Jonathan and I had talked at
length about flipping back over
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eventually. I had already talked to Nate
about working with Adam, Nate Parvati.
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And so, you know, it's a chance of a
lifetime. And I thought we could make it
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and we could get to the end.
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It didn't work out, but it was fun.
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It is how you play. It's really how you
have to play this game, though, to have
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a shot. You have to make big moves and
never quit making them.
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Sandra, what was it? Because at that
point, I remember the four of you, the
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on your faces as you looked over at this
other group of eight, I think. You
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thought it was over. What was it about
this foursome that bonded you? Because
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many other people might have just
splintered and said, I'm out on my own
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Yeah. You know, I think it's just...
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the luck of having four great people
together who have a similar objective in
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mind, which is, you know, I want to play
this game. I want to play this game
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with as much integrity as I can.
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And you know what?
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We're going to do this because this is
all that we have. And I think it was
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the right people.
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It could have been, if it was one other
person who had the wrong mindset, it
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wouldn't have worked the way it did and
it wouldn't have played out as
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beautifully as it did.
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Yul, another big key was how you managed
to lure Jonathan back.
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Take me through that. What did you say
to him? How did you convince him? You
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were always running numbers. Out on the
show, Ewell was constantly going, we
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have a 33 .3 % chance of this happening.
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Did you do that with Jonathan?
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Yeah, I think there were a couple of
things. I mean, he's a very rational
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player, and he's a really smart guy. And
I thought he would be able to really
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kind of appreciate a rational argument.
So I came up with this whole argument
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where I said, if you don't flip over to
our side.
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probability -wise, we'll be able to
execute a strategy by which we'll be out
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the next two rounds. So really, you have
no choice.
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And the other thing I told him was I was
afraid that he might come around and
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try to lie to us and, you know, end up
voting against us. And I told him, it
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kind of a stretch on my part, but I said
the only reason he hasn't been voted
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out of his tribe so far was because they
all suspected that he had the idol. So
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if they ever find out that he really
didn't have the idol, he'd be booted.
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over the next round. So that was kind of
my insurance to make sure he didn't
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come and flip over on us. So that's
huge. That gives you at a point where
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numbers could have gone either way. That
gives you the numbers.
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Then, amazingly, you used Jonathan in
voting Jonathan out as a way to
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potentially help you win this game.
Adam, you were instrumental in that. You
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come over and make a deal.
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And I want to make sure I'm clear on
this. You said to Ewell that if you get
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of Jonathan before me or Parvati, That
I'll give you my votes in the end? And
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not, I would have voted for Ozzie.
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And did you keep your word? Yep.
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So, yeah, Ozzie, did you know?
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Let me make sure I set this up right.
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So that in case this isn't making sense.
The situation is, Jonathan has now
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betrayed both camps.
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Ewell is now sitting in the power
position of this game. Adam comes in and
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guess what? If you vote Jonathan out,
because I don't like him.
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Let me in poverty stay a day longer.
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I'll give you a vote at the final tribal
council. That's a million -dollar vote,
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as it turns out, in tonight's vote. Did
you know that was going on?
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Well, Adam had mentioned a little bit of
that, saying that he had promised Yule
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that he was going to vote for him
because of that decision. But I think
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thing that Adam didn't really realize at
the time is it wasn't really Yule's
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decision. Us as a four had made that
decision already.
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That's my point. He benefited. So I did
not, I really didn't know that Yule had
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promised, you know, promised the vote
for Jonathan. And I tried to explain to
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Adam that, no, you know, that, in fact,
was not the case, that us as a four had
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already made the decision. So a little
too late, I guess. And another credit to
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you, Yule, for doing something that I
don't think people realized you were
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doing, which was playing everybody so in
such subtle ways.
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It's a tiny little maneuver, but it
seemed to pay off.
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How instrumental was Becky?
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When I was out there, I don't hear a lot
of what goes on in the beach. I thought
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Becky often as being a tag -along. When
I was at home watching the show, I
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realized she was with you on a lot of
these decisions.
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Yeah, Becky is an incredibly strong
player.
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When you watch the season, you don't
appreciate all the subtle moves that she
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made. I mean, she was an equal partner
in everything that we did. I think at
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some point, people started calling me
the puppet master.
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And I was trying to fight, and I was
trying to convince them, I'm not the
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master. I mean, the way I like to work
with a group is to build consensus.
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But at some point, I realized they're
going to think I'm BS -ing about it. So
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I'm like, fine, if you think I'm the
puppet master, I'll take that and use it
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my advantage.
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But the truth is, Becky was with me
every step of the way. We worked
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we collaborated together, we strategized
together.
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Becky, is it a little frustrating?
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knowing how instrumental you were, that
you will probably be remembered for not
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being able to start fire after 38 days.
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We practiced. We really, really did. We
practiced, and I think we were both
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really, really nervous.
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And also being against somebody who
you're, you know, we were friends,
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close friends, and it wasn't shown how
we were actually sharing and trying to
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help each other out. But that was the
whole reason why I think we went so far
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together, because of that trust.
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A lot of questions I get on the streets
are about you and Yule.
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Like, because you had such a special
bond, was it ever romantic? Did you ever
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consider it being romantic? Or are we
crazy?
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I think both of us are very focused.
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And when we're in this game the whole
time, we weren't thinking along those
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of outside the box. We were thinking
just about strategy in the game.
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And we knew that our best chance of
going as far as we could would be to
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together, stay aligned.
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We didn't cross that line. We were
really good friends. Did it enter your
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No, it didn't enter my mind. Okay.
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There's something else I want to share
because this was news to me, Yule.
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There's the other side of Yule, which is
People Magazine.
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There it is.
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The sexiest man issue.
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There's Yule. So is your life changing a
little, Yule? Are you getting dates?
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Honestly, when I heard about this, I
thought it was a practical joke. I was
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like, no.
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I mean, honestly. But I think it's a
little bit silly. But I appreciate it.
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I think my mom would be happy.
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I think she just wants me to get
married. And she's hoping to find me a
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Here's something that occurred to me.
And I don't know if it did to anybody
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else. But toward the end, when you were
in the hot tub with Parvati and Ozzy.
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To uninhibited and naked people, I
couldn't tell if this was... He was
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too. Right.
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But here's my question. I couldn't tell
if this was, to you all, wow, this is a
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great moment, or this is my worst
nightmare.
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Which was it?
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I think it was more the latter. I wanted
to get the hell out of there, but I
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didn't want to give that an opportunity
to strategize, so I wanted to keep my
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eye on poverty.
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I waited until I fell asleep that night,
then I went to bed.
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What's the first thing you did when you
got home?
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I got a Costco membership, and I went
crazy.
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Buying food? Buying food.
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I bought so much food, it wouldn't fit
in my fridge, and I just sat there, I've
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got to eat it now, so I just sat down.
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All right, well, he climbed coconut
trees, he caught fish, and he swam like
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and he was virtually unbeatable in the
challenges.
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Where did this Aussie guy come from?
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Plus, love him or hate him, everybody
has an opinion about Jonathan, including
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Jonathan. Ozzie and Jonathan are next on
the Survivor Cook Islands reunion show.
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But first, this is why the Cook Islands
are one of the most beautiful locations
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we've ever been to.
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Ozzy already up with the island names
and heading back.
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Ozzy is amazing.
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He's like half animal, half man.
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Go, Ozzy!
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Part fish, part monkey.
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Ozzy!
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Ozzy swimming like a dolphin as he makes
up time.
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He's kind of like a little jungle boy,
you know, climbing these coconut trees
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and getting coconuts down, getting fish.
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I think we should call him the spider
now or something. Yes.
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Welcome back to the Survivor Cook
Islands reunion show. We are live at
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Born to Play is a phrase that we kept
using even when we were out on the
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with you.
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What? Where did you come from? How do
you end up with all these bizarre skills
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so suited for Survivor?
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I just had a very eclectic background.
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I loved books, and one of the first
books that I remember reading was
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Crusoe, and that just sparked an
interest in... But how do you learn to
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like that and spearfish and climb a
coconut tree? Well, it all started with
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swimming. We had a pool in our backyard
when I lived in San Antonio, Texas, and
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I just swam every day. I honestly feel
like I was born in the water, that I
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learned how to swim before I could walk.
I mean, it's something that I've always
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loved, and I've...
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I felt more comfortable in the water
than on land.
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And so that just is the foundation for
everything that really happens in
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Survivor. And so you knew how to
spearfish. You had done this before
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Well, I had gone out a few years ago
with one of my buddies.
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It was on his birthday. He took me out
spearfishing, just showed me the ropes.
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And this is in Santa Barbara.
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Devereux Point, yeah.
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Went out there one day when there's no
waves, and he showed me how to do it,
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I just fell in love with it. Just the
survival aspect of it just really,
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spoke to me. What was the best part for
you of this time out there?
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Man, the best part, honestly, the whole
damn thing.
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Everything. I mean, just meeting all
these great people and just being out
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and knowing that if the situation
happened, and I was stranded on a
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island, which I had fantasized about
ever since I was a little kid, and it
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finally came true.
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And just to know that all of these
childhood hobbies finally came to fruit,
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everything that I did as a kid and was
really interested in, I finally was able
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to use, and I didn't think I would
actually do that.
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Did you miss this when you left it?
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Honestly, I think I fell into deep
depression when I got back, and just
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everything.
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The concrete jungle kind of got to me a
little bit. And being out there and
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being at humanity's roots, it was an
amazing experience because
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it's getting back to a primal nature
that a lot of us have totally
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from. And we're here and we're
surrounded by lights, cameras, and we
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an idea of where we came from.
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Not more than a few thousand years ago,
we were all doing the survivor thing.
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One other question, because I think you
touched a lot of people when you shared
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the story with your dad. Do you know, is
your dad watching tonight? Have you
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been in touch with him?
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Honestly, I don't know, but my father is
here.
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We need to clear that up. Yeah. Be clear
on that.
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Your father.
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The person you consider your father.
Yes. He raised me, you know.
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And I love him.
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Well, as memorable as Ozzy was for his
honesty and obviously his physical
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domination, Jonathan was equally
memorable, but for very different
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Oh, my favorite.
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I'm here to win a million. A million
dollars.
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You, me, Becky, and that's it. I thought
you and I had a tight thing. We do not
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trust each other. What am I going to
say?
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I promise. What's that worth to you? I'm
the wandering Jew without a tribe.
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Either I'll have betrayed the railroad
people and I'm a complete bastard.
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I consider myself a loyal person. Or I
didn't jump over to the iTunes people
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I'm a complete bastard. Well, Jonathan,
you're a rat because you've betrayed
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everybody in this game.
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That's bollocks and you know it.
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Jonathan,
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this is a debate with people I run into.
Were you a villain or were you just a
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good player? Do you think you were a
villain? No.
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I mean, I think I was antagonistic to
other people, and obviously I rubbed
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the wrong way, but it was a game. You
know, you can't have a villain in a
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There's no villain in Monopoly, you
know.
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I mean, honestly, no, we're all playing
the game. There's no villain in a poker
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tournament, you know.
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So I was playing to win a million bucks.
We all were. I was just a lot more
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overt about it, and I think I wore my
agenda on my sleeve.
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What was the family reaction? Because
you took a lot of hits, and you're
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probably watching this with the wife and
your kids.
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Well, I warned them that I was going to
be called some fantastic name.
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You know, and they're like, what do you
mean, Dad?
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And I'm like, oh, Cancer and Rat and
Weasel, you know.
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So that sucked, but...
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But, no, so I warned them, and I
basically said, you get called names, so
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We don't call people names. You know,
when you get called names, you pick
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yourself up, you get bullied, and the
truth is that it was in the context of a
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game. I know that the people who called
me names wouldn't do that outside the
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context of the game. They were trying to
progress their game, too, and I don't
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hold it against them. Some of them went
further than me.
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Some of them didn't go further than me,
but, you know, we were all playing a
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game out there.
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Did this change you?
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Physically, you lost a lot of weight,
and you've kept it off.
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Did it change you in other ways?
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Yes. I feel much more appreciative of
the life that I have, of my family, of
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people who would not say things to me
and who love me just for who I am,
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who I am as a complex person.
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And that makes me extremely glad that I
did this.
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Very nicely said.
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Jenny.
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You and Rebecca got to be a little
frustrated because you guys were both
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off before Jonathan, who's the guy that
then comes back and betrays all the
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people that voted you out.
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Worst nightmare for you, Jenny, seeing
that bottle that Poverty Red's seeing
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you're going to vote for me?
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Because I think that if I just stopped
you and said, well, Jeff, can I just say
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one thing, please, in case it's going to
be me? You might have been able to
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plead your case. Yeah, and I would plead
my case and convince them that I would.
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going to be the better choice, because I
think after that merge, I'm sure maybe
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Yule would try to convince me to go with
them, and I wouldn't have flipped.
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A lesson for you future survivors.
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Speak up at Tribal Council.
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Okay, he made headaches go away and red
dots appear.
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He offended people with his ethnic
jokes, and he was a true original.
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next. Plus, we started this season by
dividing the tribes based on ethnicity.
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Was it a good idea or not? We will ask
the people who lived it. And playing us
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to the break.
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is Sekou.
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He was first off, but so enthusiastic,
he wrote a song about Survivor. He is
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sitting in with our favorite Survivor
composer, David Vandercourt and Russ
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Landau.
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Cowboy. Got his own system.
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Yeah! I've never been accepted by the
Asian community.
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I belong in a hippie community.
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There. You feel better now. Your
headache will be gone in a few minutes.
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I did have a headache. I don't have a
headache anymore.
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But I do have a red dot on my forehead.
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What do you call a Vietnamese with three
dots?
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We get it, but a lot of people won't get
it.
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Typically in life, I'm either hated or
I'm loved. I am often misunderstood, but
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a lot of people will come to understand
that I mean well.
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Welcome back to the live.
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Survivor, Cook Islands reunion show. You
will just want to check for a million
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dollars. Cowboy, it's kind of the same
question I asked Ozzy.
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Where do you come from? You, too, are
this crazy mixture of elements. You know
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what, Jeff? I've been thinking so hard
on this. People ask me, what are you,
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what have you learned from this?
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All my life, I've bucked the trends, and
I've been chastised, I've been beaten
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down, I've been told that you're doing
things wrong.
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You've got to do it this way. You've got
to do it this way. You've got to...
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Walk here, go A and B and C and D. No,
I've been living it my way. And guess
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what? I'm here. And this is the
culmination of my life experience.
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I asked you on the show if you were
typically understood or misunderstood.
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Do people tend to just not get you at
first?
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Well, they don't think I speak English.
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Do you understand English? And if I just
look at them, they say it louder.
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You made a comment to me out there about
young people.
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You don't think kids today are patient
enough?
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Things are just quicker. It's a quicker
pace. I mean, I'm from old school.
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I double -check, I triple -count
everything.
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Kids nowadays, they look at something,
they grab it a lot quicker. They can
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process information a lot quicker. And I
believe that that actually creates a
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lot of impatience.
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So it's a good way to balance the old
way and a new way. You can do that. Some
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people nowadays can manage to do both.
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They'll be a lot more successful.
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than having one or the other. Another
thing, Cowboy, will always be memorable
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for are your Asian jokes inside the tent
at night to which the other people in
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your tribe are going, Cowboy, what are
you saying?
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I always felt like you were trying to
say, don't take things so seriously, but
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you will.
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The question of whether we should have
done this or not. We started the season
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dividing you based on ethnicity.
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Do you think it was a good idea,
ultimately?
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Because you had some trepidation in the
beginning.
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Honestly, when I first heard about it,
the first thing I thought to myself was,
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I've made a huge mistake.
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Being on a reality show that might
potentially play up racial stereotypes
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caricatures. I've got to say, though,
I'm really happy and proud of what we
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able to accomplish on the show.
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Hopefully we might have shown that
ultimately it's not your ethnic
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that dictates who you are and who your
friends are, but really we ended up with
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a multicultural coalition that got it to
the end. And the fact that we bonded
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together was really based on our
individual identities and our values,
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much our cultural background. So I'm
hoping that in some small way we might
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shown that it's not the color of your
skin that determines who you are, but
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your inside self, who you are.
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Nate.
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Nate, Nate, Nate, on the other end, I
read something in an interview where you
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and Stephanie and Rebecca, it sounded
like we're getting into it because you
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didn't represent your group or take care
of your ethnic group from the
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beginning. Give me the short skinny on
that.
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Well, basically, we all were divided by
race.
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I love all my Hiki tribe, Sekou, Sandra,
everyone.
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But I was called a race traitor. I don't
know why, because I think some felt I
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was obligated to stick with my racial
background regardless.
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I was playing a game where regardless of
your color, skin, you have to help me
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survive.
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It doesn't matter if you're my
background, what have you. We're playing
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Everyone knows how hard it is.
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Regardless of, you know, color, what
have you, you have to do what's best for
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your team. And so I had to turn on girls
that I loved and my racial background.
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So, yeah, I got comments of race
traitor.
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Stephanie, what was that?
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Well, I just felt that.
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You know, I was comfortable in the game.
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I thought that I had hickey love for
Nate.
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And I trusted him. I thought we had a
very good, very close relationship. But
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did you trust him because you're from
the same ethnic group? Absolutely.
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I expected him to have my back.
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Rebecca, sorry to interrupt you,
Stephanie. Rebecca, did you feel the
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I trusted Nate more so because of who he
is and our relationship that we had. It
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had nothing to do with the fact that
we're both black. I expected him to come
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me when I was under the radar because we
were tight.
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That was my issue. And it had no, it
didn't matter what race or nationality.
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you are. If we're close, I expected you
to look out for me and let me know
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something was going on. That's all.
Brad, wrap this up for me. Do you think
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general, is there a pressure to
represent your group when you do
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this and divide people and say, this is
your group, your group, your group?
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Yeah, there's a huge pressure,
especially when it comes to representing
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Asian culture. I think a lot of times in
media, men are portrayed as like this
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waspy, thin, sort of nerdy.
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warmish guys. And I think Yul and I did
a fantastic job of breaking the mold and
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breaking the stereotype that a lot of
America have today. All right. Up next,
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we're going to be giving away the keys
to a brand new 2008 Mercury Mariner,
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Candace and Adam. Was it strategy or
romance?
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We'll find out right after this.
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Welcome back to the Survivor Cook
Islands live reunion show from CBS in
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Hollywood.
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Candice, was it strategy?
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Was it romance from the beginning with
you and Adam?
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From the beginning, it was strategy.
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I mean, I didn't come out here to get
into some romantic relationship. But,
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know, as things went along and, you
know, I knew I could trust Adam and that
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could trust me.
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And, you know, we developed a bond and a
relationship. And it was, you know,
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there was a little romance.
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Adam,
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what's the status today?
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You know, Candace is a great girl.
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I couldn't have done this whole
experience without her because I really
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trust her.
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And we did have that connection on the
island.
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And it was great. And it was, I mean, it
was real. But, you know, we have
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separate lives now. You know, she's on
the East Coast. I'm on the West Coast.
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I think we're more just like friends
now.
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Nate and poverty.
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The other couple that when I was out
there was a little more, it seemed a
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more to me than we actually saw on the
show. Nate, was there, were there
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feelings?
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For Parvati?
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Parvati was... Hi, Parvati.
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Look at her. I mean, look at her. I
can't even say anything. She was warm,
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know? Nate, yes or no?
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I feel like we're a tribal council.
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Yes.
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Yes, there were some feelings.
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Yes, definitely.
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Parvati, strategy for you? Was there
some...
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You seem to be enjoying Nate's company
out there. I love Nate. I think Nate
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really helped me get through the game.
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At the low points, when Rero kept losing
and losing and losing, and I was
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getting so frustrated, Nate would always
make me laugh, and he always picked me
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up, and it really helped me out there.
So, yeah, I mean, I depended on him. By
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the way, we labeled you as a boxer on
the show. And people are, Parvati, what
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kind of boxing do you do? I don't even
know.
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It's called model boxing.
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But it's real boxing. I mean, we train
in the gym like five days a week. And, I
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mean, we're running. We're sparring. I'm
sparring with guys and girls both.
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We're taking head shots. And, you know,
it's legitimate boxing. It's really
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quite difficult.
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Let's get some updates in here. JP,
what's life like after Survivor for you?
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What's going on?
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Well, shortly after Survivor, I got
contacted by the Janice Dickinson
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Agency.
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I'll be, that'll be appearing January
10th on Oxygen.
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Hello, JP.
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Christina, what's the reaction from your
fellow cops to you being on the show?
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Did they respect you more or less?
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Initially, there was the joking, you
know, like anywhere, because I like
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brothers. And then afterwards, there was
that one scene with the wrestling
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match, and they were, you know, very
respectful, and they were very proud of
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at that point.
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But overall, I guess it was a great
time, and everyone enjoyed it at work
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You know, they watched it while they
were out briefing, and it was fun for
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also. Cecilia, you weren't on the show
as long as some of the other people.
456
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Do you still get, does this still
resonate as an experience?
457
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Definitely. I mean, even...
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No, Seikou could speak to that. Even
being there two days, it changes you.
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We feel all the layers, family, work,
friends. It's who you are at the core
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comes out in that experience.
461
00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:50,300
And it really is a life -changing,
amazing experience.
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I'm very happy to have him part of it.
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00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,420
Flicka, the... I love you guys!
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You know, the hair is so much a part of
your look.
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And now after being on a show like this,
I'm sure people recognize you for the
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hair. Does that become something that
now you're in a way stuck with, that you
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have to keep this look? I don't think
I'm stuck at all. I love my style, and I
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00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,320
just keep on working it.
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People just come up to me, and I feel so
blessed. They let their kids come up,
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and they approach me and tell me how
much they love me, and I just have had
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nothing but love, and I'm so
appreciative to be able to have this
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00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:29,980
experience with all these people, you
know?
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And my hair is just good, I think.
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And, Billy, I'd be remiss if I didn't
point out the obvious, that Candace is
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available again.
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I just got to ask you, Billy.
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00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:54,650
I just got to ask you. We're running out
of time in this. But not to make light
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of it, you had genuine feelings.
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00:28:56,490 --> 00:28:59,670
I did, but a lot of it had to do with
the situation I was in.
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00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,260
Not just physically, but also, you know,
it was a lot like, you know, like, I
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00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:08,360
don't need you guys. I found something
else. So it was a lot like trying to
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00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,720
get back and finding something.
483
00:29:10,060 --> 00:29:14,760
So there was a lot of that. But, you
know, you're in the heat of the moment.
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00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,080
how many of us haven't stuck our foot in
their mouth at some point in our lives?
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00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,780
I just have to do it on national TV.
That's all. Kudos to you, Billy.
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00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,480
All right. Well, we have something else
exciting to do now.
487
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,860
This season we've been doing a thing
online to vote for the survivor who
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the most clever game.
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00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:35,640
The winner gets a 2008 Mercury Mariner.
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00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:40,040
We've got a little video of that running
now right out here in our red carpet.
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00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:47,040
And once again, this vote was extremely
close. And it came down to, of course,
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00:29:47,140 --> 00:29:49,240
Yule and Ozzy.
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00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:54,090
I will tell you this, that there were a
lot of votes cast, and it was consistent
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00:29:54,090 --> 00:30:00,170
throughout the voting. The difference
was less than 1 % in the votes.
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00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:07,290
This time, the winner was Ozzie.
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00:30:12,890 --> 00:30:16,630
We'll take a break. When we come back,
we'll show you where Survivor 17 next.
497
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:33,000
Welcome back to the Survivor Cook
Islands live reunion show.
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00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:37,660
As this season comes to a close, a new
season of Survivor is just around the
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corner. Here's a sneak peek.
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Coming in the new year, Survivor turns
the tables on two tribes as
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one lives the life of luxury while the
other is left with virtually nothing.
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00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,640
For the first time, there will be 19 new
survivors.
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00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,940
This diverse cast, with lifestyles
ranging from a Harvard -educated lawyer
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00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:11,480
once homeless street performer, will be
forced to battle each other more
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00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,800
fiercely than ever before.
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00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:19,100
Crawling with thousands of deadly sea
snakes, Exile Island will be more
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00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:24,080
treacherous than ever. This time, two
hidden immunity idols and a twist will
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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,680
drastically complicate the game.
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00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:30,440
And one of the most controversial
decisions ever made by a survivor will
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America talk to him.
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Who will outwit, outplay, and outlast
all the others?
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Join us next time for the premiere of
Survivor, Fiji.
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Tomorrow morning on the early show on
CBS, Yule will receive his check for $1
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00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:53,060
million.
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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,080
You can own a piece of Survivor Cook
Islands by bidding on one -of -a -kind
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memorabilia to benefit the Elizabeth
Glazer Pediatric AIDS Foundation.
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00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,040
The website is on the screen now. And if
you think you really have what it takes
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00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,840
to do what these guys just did and be on
the show, go to cbs .com.
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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Thanks for hanging in there with us for
13 seasons. We will see you in Fiji.
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00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,080
Good night.
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