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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,930 --> 00:00:02,929 Bye. 2 00:00:33,740 --> 00:00:38,560 Thank you so much for joining us. It has been a busy week. The Iran war hit the 3 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,900 60 -day mark. My mom and dad came to visit the U .S. 4 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:46,000 And last Saturday, a gunman charged the White House correspondent's dinner. And 5 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,460 just hours later, Trump announced the big conclusion that he'd drawn. 6 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:53,840 It's not a particularly secure building. 7 00:00:54,700 --> 00:01:01,160 And I didn't want to say this, but this is why we have to have all of the... 8 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:05,780 attributes of what we're planning at the White House. We need the ballroom, 9 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,740 that's why Secret Service, that's why the military are demanding it. 10 00:01:08,980 --> 00:01:15,020 Okay, first and least importantly, it is so weird to see those three men, that 11 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:16,720 dressed up and that serious. 12 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:21,000 The two possible contexts for that image are emergency The White House 13 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,860 Correspondents Dinner or Father of the Bride and Two Groomsmen apologizing for 14 00:01:24,860 --> 00:01:26,400 accidentally giving the ring bearer cocaine. 15 00:01:28,460 --> 00:01:31,560 For the record, just because someone wanted to shoot you at the DC Hilton 16 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,920 doesn't mean you get to push for an unrelated personal ambition. 17 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:39,300 To his credit, when Reagan got shot there, he didn't immediately say, see, 18 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,880 is what happens when you let air traffic controllers get notions. 19 00:01:42,820 --> 00:01:47,360 But I guess, kudos to Trump for now having the second most embarrassing 20 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,060 on the topic of presidential ballroom, with the most embarrassing still being 21 00:01:51,060 --> 00:01:54,300 when LBJ called the head of the Hagar Pants Company to say this. 22 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,860 The crotch down where your nuts hang. 23 00:01:57,530 --> 00:01:59,050 It's always a little too tight. 24 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:02,930 So when you make them up, give me an inch that I can let out there. 25 00:02:03,850 --> 00:02:07,910 Because they cut me. They're just like riding a wire fence. 26 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:11,710 Let's see if you can't leave me about an inch from where the zipper ends. 27 00:02:13,770 --> 00:02:16,530 Around under my back of my bum hole. 28 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:19,390 It's still so good. 29 00:02:20,170 --> 00:02:24,050 Every US history textbook should include at least one chapter titled, That Phone 30 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:29,050 Call Where LBJ Discusses Big Swingin' Nuts, and then says the word bunghole 31 00:02:29,050 --> 00:02:33,430 loud. With an immediate follow -up chapter called, Oh My God, Wait the 32 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:35,710 Almost Forgot to Talk About the Burp. 33 00:02:36,050 --> 00:02:39,830 And I wish so much I could talk about that all night. But sadly, we need to 34 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:42,610 about the fact that on Wednesday, the Supreme Court did this. 35 00:02:43,180 --> 00:02:47,180 Tonight, in a ruling that could reshape the future makeup of Congress, the 36 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:50,860 Supreme Court limiting the use of race to determine how congressional districts 37 00:02:50,860 --> 00:02:55,960 are drawn, slicing away at the landmark Voting Rights Act, signed into law by 38 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,760 President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965 at the height of the civil rights movement. 39 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Yeah, the Supreme Court carved up one of LBJ's signature achievements like it 40 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,800 was, I don't know, just off the top of my head here, a nutsack riding a wire 41 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,800 fence. 42 00:03:10,970 --> 00:03:14,730 That ruling basically gutted Section 2 of the VRA, which prohibits race -based 43 00:03:14,730 --> 00:03:18,550 discrimination when it comes to voting, including drawing election maps that 44 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:21,750 dilute minority voting power. And in writing the opinion for the majority, 45 00:03:22,150 --> 00:03:24,510 Justice Alito took a bold swing. 46 00:03:24,990 --> 00:03:28,970 Justice Alito writing, the only time race can be a factor is when there's 47 00:03:28,970 --> 00:03:33,050 evidence the state intentionally drew its districts to afford minority voters 48 00:03:33,050 --> 00:03:35,210 less opportunity because of their race. 49 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,260 Alito noting, vast social change has occurred throughout the country, and 50 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:43,260 particularly in the South, which have made great strides in ending entrenched 51 00:03:43,260 --> 00:03:44,260 racial discrimination. 52 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,260 Okay, that is obviously horseshit. Especially given, to the extent 53 00:03:49,260 --> 00:03:53,100 made progress on racial discrimination, it's been thanks in part to the law. He 54 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:58,540 just fucking got it. Still, credit to ABC for picking that photo of Alito, 55 00:03:58,540 --> 00:04:02,560 has strong, this school dance wasn't supposed to be integrated energy. 56 00:04:03,370 --> 00:04:06,090 He looks like he's angry about the existence of jazz. 57 00:04:07,370 --> 00:04:10,450 Experts predict this ruling will roll back decades of progress in minority 58 00:04:10,450 --> 00:04:14,350 representation at both the local and national levels, with some anticipating 59 00:04:14,350 --> 00:04:18,410 could set up the largest ever decline in the number of black representatives on 60 00:04:18,410 --> 00:04:23,230 Capitol Hill, which sure feels like a few steps back from those giant strides 61 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:26,030 forward that segregation Sammy here was talking about. 62 00:04:26,250 --> 00:04:29,650 Now, some states... have already held their congressional primaries for this 63 00:04:29,650 --> 00:04:34,210 year, so they can't redraw their lines until 2028. But others are scrambling to 64 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:38,710 take action. The governor of Louisiana suspended its congressional primary two 65 00:04:38,710 --> 00:04:43,110 days before the start of early voting so that the state could redraw its map, 66 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:44,970 with this being the expected result. 67 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Only one of Louisiana's six congressional districts will now be 68 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:52,980 even though black voters make up one -third of the state. 69 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:57,160 Congressman Cleo Fields represents the district now ruled unconstitutional, 70 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,000 saying the decision will make it more difficult for non -white candidates to 71 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,600 elected. If you tell me I have to be white to serve in Congress from 72 00:05:05,980 --> 00:05:07,820 I can't do nothing about that. 73 00:05:08,170 --> 00:05:12,510 That is rough. And of course he can't do anything about that, because if he did, 74 00:05:12,590 --> 00:05:16,550 that wouldn't be a viable political strategy. It would be, as we all know, 75 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:20,970 long -awaited sequel to 2004's White Chicks. And we don't want that. 76 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:22,910 And it's not just Louisiana. 77 00:05:23,210 --> 00:05:26,470 Florida passed a new redistricting map the same day this decision was handed 78 00:05:26,470 --> 00:05:30,010 down, and the governors of Alabama and Tennessee have called special sessions 79 00:05:30,010 --> 00:05:31,670 try to ram new maps through. 80 00:05:31,970 --> 00:05:35,490 And this state senator in Georgia, who's currently running for lieutenant 81 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:38,290 governor, quickly urged his state to do the same. 82 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:42,930 The last thing that Republicans need to do is be weak -kneed in this moment. 83 00:05:43,030 --> 00:05:47,990 This is a time to be bold. This is a time to be aggressive. And in Georgia, 84 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:50,870 means calling a special session and redrawing our maps. 85 00:05:51,310 --> 00:05:57,090 Yet Republicans like radicalized Frankie Muniz here are chomping at the bit to 86 00:05:57,090 --> 00:06:00,950 redraw maps. And all else aside, that guy's name is Greg Dolezal. 87 00:06:01,270 --> 00:06:03,110 Greg Dolezal. 88 00:06:03,570 --> 00:06:08,930 And he's trying to turn black districts white. So finally, someone has managed 89 00:06:08,930 --> 00:06:13,010 to pull off a reverse Dolezal. And that is not easy to do. 90 00:06:13,370 --> 00:06:17,530 And look, so far, Georgia's governor said he won't sign off on redrawing its 91 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:21,620 map. for this election, and some new maps will face challenges on procedural 92 00:06:21,620 --> 00:06:24,660 grounds. But long term, the harms are going to be significant here. 93 00:06:24,940 --> 00:06:27,900 And while there'll clearly be more to say about this going forward, the one 94 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:32,180 thing we can say for sure right now is that this decision is yet another sign 95 00:06:32,180 --> 00:06:36,240 that the current Supreme Court seems to have pretty much the exact same goal as 96 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,260 LBJ's Taylor, and that is to make things a lot more comfortable for a bunch of 97 00:06:40,260 --> 00:06:42,480 very unpleasant nuts and arseholes. 98 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,200 And now, this. 99 00:06:45,020 --> 00:06:46,020 And now. 100 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,700 Kids speak their truth in KTVH's Weather Rookie segment. 101 00:06:51,060 --> 00:06:54,280 Good evening, everybody. I've got my new friend, Dustin. 102 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,479 Look at that smile. 103 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,040 That's a million -dollar smile. 104 00:06:57,420 --> 00:06:58,900 You must have, like, five girlfriends. 105 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,140 I actually have two. 106 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Your class is going to watch this tomorrow. 107 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,040 Do you want to give a shout -out to anyone? 108 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:08,320 Can I say the names? Yeah, go ahead. 109 00:07:08,980 --> 00:07:11,920 Javis, please be more responsible in class. 110 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,380 How should people jump into that pond? 111 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,040 Whatever they want. Whatever they want. What do you want to do? What would you 112 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,560 do? Triple backflip? 113 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:21,760 I don't think I'm capable of that. 114 00:07:21,980 --> 00:07:24,720 You said you've never been to Great Falls, but look at that. By the magic of 115 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,680 television, we have transported you to Great Falls. How does it feel? 116 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Oh, good. 117 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:32,640 It feels good. Would you say it feels great to be in Great Falls? 118 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:35,220 Well, technically I'm not. 119 00:07:35,780 --> 00:07:37,060 Say hello to everybody. 120 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Hi, everybody. 121 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:43,620 Hi, everybody. The entire state, the entire world could be watching this. 122 00:07:44,110 --> 00:07:45,110 How do you feel about that? 123 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:47,730 Creeped out. 124 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:53,150 Moving on. Our main story tonight concerns drugs. 125 00:07:53,550 --> 00:07:57,890 We've talked about all sorts of them before, from opioids to compounded drugs 126 00:07:57,890 --> 00:08:02,330 psychedelics to opioids again to lethal injection drugs to opioids for a third 127 00:08:02,330 --> 00:08:05,950 and final time to, of course, a bonus opioid story. But tonight... 128 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:09,490 We're going to talk about so -called gas station drugs. You know, the colourful 129 00:08:09,490 --> 00:08:12,670 products with weird names that you tend to see behind the counter at gas 130 00:08:12,670 --> 00:08:16,610 stations, convenience stores and smoke shops. It's a whole weird world of 131 00:08:16,610 --> 00:08:20,230 poppers, whippets, questionable supplements and boner pills. And if you 132 00:08:20,230 --> 00:08:24,490 wondering who buys those last ones, I'll let this convenience store clerk fill 133 00:08:24,490 --> 00:08:25,490 you in. 134 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:29,280 This is why I got to leave Circle K soon, bro, for real. Like, so today I 135 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,280 just chilling, right? 136 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:31,300 Working, whatever. 137 00:08:31,340 --> 00:08:35,919 This white dude come up. He's like, yo, you got any, any dick pills? Like rhino 138 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,980 dick pills? And he did this shit with his arm. I was like, we had these. He's 139 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:40,940 like, fuck it, bro. Let me take him. I was like, all right, bet. 140 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,440 And while he was paying and shit, he opened it and he popped one. 141 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,120 And he popped one in his fucking mouth. And I was like, and he was like, shit. 142 00:08:53,020 --> 00:08:56,780 And then he popped another one. I was like, oh, my fucking... What are you 143 00:08:56,780 --> 00:09:01,000 doing, bro? Why the fuck did you take two in a public area like this? You 144 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,979 couldn't go home? 145 00:09:01,980 --> 00:09:05,280 You couldn't wait till you go home? Like, what the fuck is going on, son? 146 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,820 Yeah, all valid questions. 147 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,740 And I will say, after hearing that, I won't feel nearly as bad the next time I 148 00:09:11,740 --> 00:09:15,160 open a Gatorade at the register before paying. Look, I'll pay for it in a 149 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,820 second, but trust me, this could be way weirder. 150 00:09:18,650 --> 00:09:20,670 But again, it's not just boner pills. 151 00:09:20,890 --> 00:09:23,710 These products are part of a sprawling industry, and they promise everything 152 00:09:23,710 --> 00:09:27,570 from increased energy to pain relief. And while you might assume that they're 153 00:09:27,570 --> 00:09:30,350 just snake oil, that's not necessarily true. 154 00:09:30,650 --> 00:09:33,790 Some of these drugs can be actively dangerous, presenting risks of 155 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:35,530 just like controlled substances. 156 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:39,670 And here's some who've been addicted to them tell it. The very fact that that's 157 00:09:39,670 --> 00:09:42,170 been allowed to happen is pretty infuriating. 158 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,320 It's a common sight in gas station convenience stores across the country, 159 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,160 -called natural supplements on display. 160 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Starting in like 2015, 2014, I had an opiate aisle. This is what Hooked looked 161 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:55,680 like for Brandon. 162 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,840 250 bottles consumed in one month at the height of his addiction. 163 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,140 There is so much that is alarming there, from the notion of a gas station having 164 00:10:05,140 --> 00:10:08,900 an opiate aisle to the fact that, I'm just going to say it, that is too many 165 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:11,440 tiny bottles of anything to go through in a month. 166 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:15,890 Whether it's gas station supplements, airplane bottles of vodka, or even 167 00:10:15,890 --> 00:10:20,350 -size Olay body wash. First, buy full -size, don't live like this. But also, 168 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:23,410 that's just too many bottles. How dirty are you getting? 169 00:10:23,890 --> 00:10:25,550 I'm worried about you. 170 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:29,130 And the thing is, stories like that are becoming more common as people 171 00:10:29,130 --> 00:10:33,310 increasingly seek these drugs out. For some, it may be for recreational use, 172 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:36,470 because these products generally don't get detected on drug tests. 173 00:10:37,050 --> 00:10:40,030 But for others, it may be because they don't have access to healthcare, have a 174 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:43,390 mistrust of mainstream science, or are self -treating anxiety, depression, 175 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:45,210 fatigue, or opioid withdrawal. 176 00:10:45,530 --> 00:10:49,870 The problem is, though, these drugs exist in a regulatory wild west. 177 00:10:50,110 --> 00:10:54,750 And in part, that is by their own design. Many of the companies behind 178 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:58,290 to evade regulation with creative labelling, marketing them with language 179 00:10:58,330 --> 00:11:02,990 for research purposes only, or not for human consumption. But the most common 180 00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:06,270 tactic is simply labelling the product a dietary supplement. 181 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,900 And that is because this 1994 law exempted the supplement industry from 182 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:12,360 all federal regulations. 183 00:11:12,660 --> 00:11:15,260 We actually talked about that before in our piece on Dr. 184 00:11:15,460 --> 00:11:19,500 Oz and nutritional supplements, which, by the way, ended with Steve Buscemi tap 185 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:23,540 dancing in front of a kid's marching band. And just trust me, it made sense 186 00:11:23,540 --> 00:11:24,540 the time. 187 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:28,200 But thanks to that law, there is currently no central process. 188 00:11:28,570 --> 00:11:32,830 whereby products calling themselves supplements are tested or approved 189 00:11:32,830 --> 00:11:33,850 they hit the shelves. 190 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:37,050 And while there are some rules they have to follow regarding ingredients and 191 00:11:37,050 --> 00:11:41,310 marketing, many simply ignore them. All of which means the FDA and other 192 00:11:41,310 --> 00:11:44,910 regulators are essentially playing an impossible game of catch -up. And the 193 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:49,390 result of that can be a guy with a pile of bottles on his lawn wondering how the 194 00:11:49,390 --> 00:11:50,870 fuck that was allowed to happen. 195 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:54,440 And that's actually the least of the consequences here. So given all of that, 196 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,080 tonight, let's look at gas station drugs. And to do that, we're going to 197 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,760 on three areas in particular. 198 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,560 Sexual enhancement products, a substance called Kratom and its associated 199 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:08,580 compound 7 -OH, and TNFD. And let's start with the sexual enhancement stuff. 200 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:11,480 Products like boner pills can be hard to miss. 201 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,700 Especially because they often have over -the -top names and packaging involving 202 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:20,800 an animal. For instance, there's Black Panther, Blue Panther, Black Horse, The 203 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:27,620 Goat, Superball, Ramit, Gold Lion, Super Cheetah, Anaconda, Rhino 8, Rhino 204 00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:34,540 11, Rhino 69, of course, Rhino 96, Rhino 99, and my personal favourite, Boner 205 00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:38,840 Bears, which apparently contains a proprietary Boner Bear blend. 206 00:12:40,060 --> 00:12:44,680 first series of words and which features this image which looks like what a 207 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:50,280 Beanie baby would see if it walked in on his parents having sex But boner pills 208 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,060 actually demonstrate pretty effectively the extent to which gas station drugs 209 00:12:54,060 --> 00:12:59,880 can be made by just about anyone and I do mean anyone It's not like there's a 210 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,440 single company making all of these dick pills and filling them with drugs 211 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,560 What actually happens is that the empty packaging for many of the most common 212 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,800 sexual enhancement supplements gets purchased online from China. 213 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:15,960 Then, the packages get filled by an unknown number of entities. 214 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,860 Finally, the pills show up in stores around the country. To show how easy it 215 00:13:20,860 --> 00:13:25,020 to get into the dick pill business, we ordered a sample of empty rhino 216 00:13:25,020 --> 00:13:26,100 from Alibaba. 217 00:13:26,420 --> 00:13:31,380 Now, if we wanted to, we could fill them with oregano, or pop rocks, or dirt. 218 00:13:32,010 --> 00:13:35,830 We could also fill the pills with natural herbal supplements, as the 219 00:13:35,830 --> 00:13:39,810 advertise, or pharmaceuticals, both of which are sold on Alibaba. 220 00:13:40,050 --> 00:13:43,350 Yeah, that's not ideal, is it? You don't want a pill's ingredients to be 221 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:44,710 essentially Delu's choice. 222 00:13:45,070 --> 00:13:48,630 And you would never tolerate that level of variance in other products. You would 223 00:13:48,630 --> 00:13:52,710 be justifiably annoyed if it turned out that some Cadbury cream eggs were filled 224 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:53,710 with marinara sauce. 225 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,760 Instead of what they're supposed to be filled with, the Easter Bunny's thick, 226 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,819 thick cum. 227 00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:04,480 And if you thought that clip was exaggerating, just watch what happened 228 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,420 they bought what looks like the same pill from two different stores right 229 00:14:08,420 --> 00:14:09,239 in New York. 230 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,380 The packaging on these products was exactly the same. But when we opened the 231 00:14:13,380 --> 00:14:17,840 pills, it was evident there was inconsistency between the contents, 232 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:18,840 textures. 233 00:14:18,890 --> 00:14:22,670 Yet those two powders are clearly very different. One just looks like sand, 234 00:14:22,850 --> 00:14:27,750 while the other looks more like cremated Snoopy. And obviously, I hope it's not 235 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:28,750 that. 236 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:32,830 Unless that is, Snoopy's will specifically directed his heirs to shove 237 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:37,010 remains into a gas station dick pill, in which case, I'm thankful his final wish 238 00:14:37,010 --> 00:14:38,010 was fulfilled. 239 00:14:38,030 --> 00:14:39,950 Woodstock, may his memory be a blessing. 240 00:14:40,690 --> 00:14:42,110 The point is... 241 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,000 These pills could contain literally anything, including, as they just said, 242 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,660 actual pharmaceutical ingredients, though importantly, not necessarily in 243 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:52,500 careful or consistent dosages. 244 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:55,800 Some rhino pills have been shown to contain sildenafil. 245 00:14:56,010 --> 00:14:59,790 and Tadalafil, the respective active ingredients in Viagra and Cialis, and 246 00:14:59,790 --> 00:15:04,530 sometimes at extremely high doses, which isn't good, given that both drugs can 247 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:08,570 lower blood pressure to dangerous levels, particularly if they interact 248 00:15:08,570 --> 00:15:09,569 other medications. 249 00:15:09,570 --> 00:15:14,250 So, someone who can't get Cialis from their doctor for good reason... 250 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,840 might turn to these supplements without knowing they're about to get a megadose 251 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,479 of it. 252 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,640 One pill was found to contain 14 times the amount of active ingredient 253 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,060 in a Cialis pill. Meanwhile, others were found to include dyes and filler, like 254 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:32,520 blue printer ink and drywall. So, on one hand, these pills could end up 255 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,340 poisoning you, but on the other, if your printer runs out of blue ink, just jam 256 00:15:36,340 --> 00:15:40,160 a few boner pills in the cartridge and you can finish printing off your Smurf 257 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,160 porn. 258 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,160 And because the FDA is basically powerless before 259 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:53,040 a problem emerges, the main 260 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,640 action it often takes is to simply offer public warning to avoid certain 261 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,280 products. That is why you can come across an official FDA release like this 262 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,000 which reads, FDA continues to advise consumers not to purchase or use schwing 263 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000 products. 264 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,420 Which is embarrassing enough, even before you realise that the release 265 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:15,280 this image of the packaging, featuring the brand's mascot, seen here answering 266 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,460 the question, what if Alfred E. Newman got heavily into gooning? 267 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,060 The FDA's also publicly warned against, and these are all real, my steel woody, 268 00:16:24,180 --> 00:16:30,640 willy -go -wild, big penis, Australia kangaroo essence, strong horses, bull's 269 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,200 genital, and bigger, longer, more time, more sperms, which is just... 270 00:16:36,540 --> 00:16:41,860 Immaculate. AMC, please bring back Mad Men, because I so badly want to see an 271 00:16:41,860 --> 00:16:46,040 entire episode about Don Draper pitching a bigger, longer, more time, more sperm 272 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,040 ad campaign. 273 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,380 It's not a dick pill. 274 00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:49,940 It's a carousel. 275 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,040 What I'm saying is, these pills can be subject to far less oversight and be 276 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,380 more dangerous than you would reasonably hope. And that is also true of the next 277 00:17:00,380 --> 00:17:02,600 product that we're going to be looking at tonight, Kratom. 278 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,579 It's made from the leaves of the kratom tree in Southeast Asia. In its natural 279 00:17:06,579 --> 00:17:10,760 form and smaller doses, it's generally considered safe and acts as a stimulant. 280 00:17:10,819 --> 00:17:14,859 But in higher doses, it becomes more of a sedative with addictive opioid -like 281 00:17:14,859 --> 00:17:19,020 properties. Kratom has become increasingly popular with millions of 282 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:20,640 estimated to use it nationwide. 283 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,460 And it speaks to its growing popularity. 284 00:17:22,859 --> 00:17:27,220 That at trade shows for smoke shops, kratom companies will happily brag about 285 00:17:27,220 --> 00:17:28,220 their expansion plans. 286 00:17:28,569 --> 00:17:32,930 This show is huge for Kratom now. We just got into edibles and some drinks 287 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:33,709 things like that. 288 00:17:33,710 --> 00:17:38,850 Jelly 708 Botanicals is our newest line of Kratom gummies. I'm with this 289 00:17:38,850 --> 00:17:42,690 company, Hydroxy. We're a single alkaloid Kratom extract company. And 290 00:17:42,690 --> 00:17:45,350 going to be the strongest, most purest on the market right now. 291 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:48,990 We're the first extract enhanced powder and capital on the market. 292 00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:52,190 We wanted to be a soccer mom brand, you know, just to get your energy in the 293 00:17:52,190 --> 00:17:54,270 morning instead of something else. You know what I mean? 294 00:17:54,610 --> 00:17:56,230 Yeah, I do know what you mean, bro. 295 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,340 And I've got to say, there's a lot that is off -putting there, from the way 296 00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:05,120 Colby here talks about soccer moms, to this guy being so wet, to these 297 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:10,120 unappealing flavors of Kratom on display, including fresh grape, mocha 298 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:11,340 and Dave's brew. 299 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:16,540 If your product is referring to Dave, and I don't know who the fuck Dave is, 300 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:18,520 not feeling inherently confident in it. 301 00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:23,030 Kratom products are usually marketed as an energy booster, a mood lifter, or a 302 00:18:23,030 --> 00:18:25,570 pain reducer. But there are a number of potential problems. 303 00:18:25,870 --> 00:18:29,270 Starting with the fact that because many states have no requirement for 304 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:33,630 labelling when it comes to these products, it can be hard to know exactly 305 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:34,630 you are buying. 306 00:18:34,890 --> 00:18:38,470 When the Tampa Bay Times ran an investigation on Kratom, they tested 20 307 00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:42,770 products. And while some came in proper packaging, like these, others, like this 308 00:18:42,770 --> 00:18:46,110 one, labelled train wreck, were just powder in a bag. 309 00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:50,410 And if you think train wreck... looks alarming, may I introduce you to red. 310 00:18:50,690 --> 00:18:52,070 Just red. 311 00:18:52,410 --> 00:18:56,270 A bag of something with the word red sharpied on it. 312 00:18:56,790 --> 00:19:00,470 The Times found that of the products they tested, five had no information 313 00:19:00,470 --> 00:19:05,330 ingredients, 11 had no dosing instructions, and 13 had no details 314 00:19:05,370 --> 00:19:08,530 which probably shouldn't be that surprising given, again, one of those 315 00:19:08,530 --> 00:19:10,950 was a bag of something called red. 316 00:19:11,790 --> 00:19:16,170 And the thing is, even when products are packaged and have dosing information, 317 00:19:16,450 --> 00:19:17,450 the packaging itself 318 00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:20,730 may not encourage proper usage, as this expert points out. 319 00:19:21,030 --> 00:19:23,490 Can you read this label here? 320 00:19:23,690 --> 00:19:28,430 So at the very bottom it says to not consume more than one -third of that 321 00:19:28,430 --> 00:19:29,710 within a 24 -hour period. 322 00:19:30,030 --> 00:19:31,490 But it's sold as a shot. 323 00:19:31,910 --> 00:19:32,910 Right! 324 00:19:33,450 --> 00:19:38,430 And that's clearly a problem, because everybody knows a bottle's type dictates 325 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:41,950 how you drink its content. If it's in a tiny shot bottle, you drink it all at 326 00:19:41,950 --> 00:19:45,530 once. If it's in a big tall bottle, you pour it into a glass. And if it's in a 327 00:19:45,530 --> 00:19:49,570 Bud Light lime bottle, you throw it directly into the trash. These are the 328 00:19:49,570 --> 00:19:51,150 rules of beverage consumption. 329 00:19:52,090 --> 00:19:56,390 We even found one praise and derive product that claims a single tablet 330 00:19:56,390 --> 00:20:00,870 eight servings, meaning you'd have to break it into eight pieces, even though 331 00:20:00,870 --> 00:20:02,330 it's only scored into four. 332 00:20:03,210 --> 00:20:07,590 And the thing is, because these products can seem low -risk, people can feel way 333 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:10,310 too comfortable taking much more than the recommended dose. 334 00:20:10,570 --> 00:20:13,730 Just listen to this exchange that Joe Rogan had with a guest. 335 00:20:14,150 --> 00:20:18,910 I was on this discussion about Kratom. Are you familiar with this? I'm on it 336 00:20:18,910 --> 00:20:19,909 right now. Oh, wow. 337 00:20:19,910 --> 00:20:24,130 Yeah, I just took some. I fucked my knee up the other day. I did something, and 338 00:20:24,130 --> 00:20:25,130 it's been... 339 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,980 stiff and painful so i iced it before i came here and then i just took uh took 340 00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:36,740 six of them see what happens wow ten once now i get why people might think 341 00:20:36,740 --> 00:20:41,940 a drug what is the drug yeah for sure but when i took four i was like well i 342 00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:45,400 took two for the first time i took it i took two and a couple times i took two 343 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,980 and this is like a mild stimulant but then when you get into the range of 344 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:53,680 to ten pills it's like oh this this will fuck you up 345 00:20:55,500 --> 00:21:02,440 The stuff I take is Urban Ice Organics, and, um... See, it 346 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,680 says... It says take two. 347 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Joe! 348 00:21:08,260 --> 00:21:09,260 Joey! 349 00:21:10,340 --> 00:21:11,340 Josephine! 350 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,240 What the fuck are you doing? 351 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:17,620 You didn't even know the name of the pill or how many you were supposed to 352 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:19,140 What did you know? 353 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:23,360 The main knowledge you had about those pills before taking them was that they 354 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:24,360 were pills. 355 00:21:25,290 --> 00:21:28,370 And that was apparently enough for you to happily toss half a dozen of them 356 00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:33,030 back. But it really is worth knowing exactly what you're ingesting and the 357 00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:38,070 potential dangers because the truth is Kratom products can be addictive, as 358 00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:39,070 woman found. 359 00:21:39,170 --> 00:21:44,610 Amy has been addicted to Kratom for nearly a decade and she didn't buy it 360 00:21:44,610 --> 00:21:46,470 dealer or off the street. 361 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:53,070 Instead, she got these tiny bottles of Kratom extract known as K -Shots. 362 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,480 from a place many of you frequent every day. 363 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,620 I worked in the gas station behind my house, trying not to take opiates 364 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:04,900 opiates are bad, and it was in a little display right beside me. 90 % of my 365 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:05,900 money goes to this. 366 00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:12,040 The average price of Kratom is around $15 to $25 per bottle or for the two 367 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,899 of pills. 368 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:18,720 Amy admits she spent more than $100 ,000 in one year on this substance. 369 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:24,040 If you think about it, that is the price of four Honda Civic LX sedans or a high 370 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,040 -end RV. 371 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,560 I mean, yeah, I guess that is true. 372 00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:36,500 But it's also a pretty strange way to illustrate the purchasing power of $100 373 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:37,500 ,000. 374 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,960 Because you don't expect the takeaway from that story to be, if this woman 375 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,700 wasn't addicted to Kratom, she'd be rolling in Honda Civics right now. 376 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,280 What's her voice worth? 377 00:22:46,570 --> 00:22:50,110 I don't need the news to tell me the price of high -end recreational 378 00:22:50,490 --> 00:22:54,270 I'm well aware of the cost, and so, by the way, is Charles Thomas. 379 00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:59,910 Now, a key reason some Kratom products have the potential for addiction is 380 00:22:59,910 --> 00:23:04,770 because certain components of the Kratom plant, like mitragynine, interact with 381 00:23:04,770 --> 00:23:07,490 the same receptors in your brain as opioids. 382 00:23:07,790 --> 00:23:10,790 And while there is mitragynine in Kratom in its natural state, some 383 00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:12,650 manufacturers will concentrate it. 384 00:23:12,970 --> 00:23:16,150 in their products and others will go even further by synthesizing a compound 385 00:23:16,150 --> 00:23:21,090 from kratom called 7 -hydroxybitragynin or 7 -oh it's a substance that 386 00:23:21,090 --> 00:23:24,750 researchers have found binds to the opioid receptors at least seven times 387 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:28,070 stronger than morphine as one researcher put it the difference between natural 388 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:32,690 kratom and 7 -oh is like the difference between drinking a miller light versus 389 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:37,450 drinking 12 ounces of everclear some products have now even ditched the word 390 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:42,310 Kratom completely and just put 70H front and center. And sales have exploded. 391 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:47,750 Here's the head of one company who expanded from CBD products to 70H, 392 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:49,950 at just how quickly his new product line took off. 393 00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:55,050 I've truly never seen a product with the type of sales as fast. 394 00:23:56,390 --> 00:24:01,990 You know, we had a 10 -year lead with Kansas products, and I've just never 395 00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:04,730 anything move like this. 396 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:15,690 Yeah, 397 00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:20,690 it turns out 708 products are as popular as that man's shirt is, distractingly 398 00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:21,690 red. 399 00:24:21,790 --> 00:24:26,110 That is Vince Saunders, one of 7 -0 -H's loudest proponents. Fun fact, he was 400 00:24:26,110 --> 00:24:30,210 once a car salesman slash large -scale illegal marijuana dealer. And even 401 00:24:30,210 --> 00:24:34,210 fact, after he was arrested in 2000, his attorney argued in court to void his 402 00:24:34,210 --> 00:24:37,970 prison term, citing, among other things, the tax revenue lost from having the 403 00:24:37,970 --> 00:24:41,130 number one accurate salesman in the US behind bars. 404 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:45,570 And I shouldn't go to prison because I'm America's number one accurate salesman 405 00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:48,290 might be the saddest sentence of all time. 406 00:24:48,970 --> 00:24:52,670 Aside from, I shouldn't go to prison because I'm America's number two agro 407 00:24:52,670 --> 00:24:56,870 -salesman. And while some manufacturers position their products as pain 408 00:24:56,870 --> 00:25:02,110 relievers, or even as an off -ramp for people from more dangerous drugs, just 409 00:25:02,110 --> 00:25:06,470 many seem to market them with a knowing wink to consumers about their similarity 410 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:11,630 to illicit substances. There is Dopium, which is pretty on the nose, but also 411 00:25:11,630 --> 00:25:16,610 Opia and Perks and Bars, as well as Roxy, Droxy and Moxie. 412 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,100 And the addictive nature of these products can be especially rough for 413 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:24,560 like this woman, who'd already been through an opioid addiction and thought 414 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,680 -0 -H that she found something safe. 415 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,640 This month, Madison McManus found herself in a place she never wanted to 416 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,220 again, drug rehab. 417 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:36,340 Really disappointed in myself. I didn't think that I would be there again. 418 00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:43,980 Yeah, it was really hard, you know, lying in the detox for, I think, three 419 00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:45,060 just catatonic. 420 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,120 My body was just... I mean, everything was on fire at her. I just didn't want 421 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:50,939 do it anymore. 422 00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:56,080 She was six and a half years clean from heroin when a friend suggested she try 7 423 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,280 -0 to help with anxiety. 424 00:25:58,060 --> 00:25:59,240 Products like these. 425 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:04,100 As soon as I took that 7 -0, it was like taking heroin again for the first time. 426 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:09,620 Wow. It was like taking heroin. Look, you expect people to say that about 427 00:26:09,620 --> 00:26:13,000 things like fentanyl or watching a Halloween dog parade or... 428 00:26:13,690 --> 00:26:17,330 Getting the push alert that Henry Kissinger died. Inject that straight 429 00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:19,590 veins until I happily die. 430 00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:24,390 But what about taking a drug that's readily available at gas station 431 00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:28,870 stores? In working on this story, we've seen so many clips of people talking 432 00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:32,990 about how hard it is to quit these products. Yet, some in this industry 433 00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:36,890 to direct people away from those examples and instead tell them to focus 434 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:40,650 positive. Like this guy in Mississippi whose business is called Dr. Kratom. 435 00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:43,880 If you Google kratom and you Google what are the downfalls, what are the 436 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,520 negative effects of kratom, that's what you're going to get is the downfalls and 437 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,560 the negative effects of kratom. 438 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:51,460 If you Google what are the pros and the positives and the good points of kratom, 439 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,980 that's what you're going to get. You've got to learn how to Google. 440 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:57,660 Google non -biasedly and you'll get the truth. 441 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,420 Sure, but, you know, you could also say that about anything, right? 442 00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:07,080 If you Google what are the good points of mountain lion attacks... 443 00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:11,090 You might find some upsides to getting mauled by a mountain lion, though the 444 00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:14,790 results may also be from websites secretly made by mountain lions. 445 00:27:15,310 --> 00:27:18,570 And then you're really just getting the mountain lion's version of the truth. 446 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:23,500 But the thing is, if you don't just rely on how you Google, troubling patterns 447 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:24,620 do begin to emerge. 448 00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:27,580 When the Washington Post went through government statistics, it found that in 449 00:27:27,580 --> 00:27:31,340 recent three -year span, medical examiners and coroners had listed kratom 450 00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:36,660 contributing to or causing at least 4 ,100 deaths in 44 states and D .C. Now, 451 00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:41,780 be fair, most cases did involve other substances, but kratom was listed as the 452 00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:46,360 sole substance causing death in 182 of those cases, and there is every chance 453 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:47,360 that that is an undercount. 454 00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:51,330 given these substances are new enough that death investigations don't always 455 00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:53,590 test for or detect Kratom or 7 -OH. 456 00:27:53,850 --> 00:27:59,490 The fact is, despite how ubiquitous these products are, they really haven't 457 00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:03,590 tested properly for safety, as the former number one Acura salesman in the 458 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:05,570 country readily admits. 459 00:28:06,190 --> 00:28:11,790 So 7 -OH hasn't had any human trials for regulations or anything like that? That 460 00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:12,409 is correct. 461 00:28:12,410 --> 00:28:16,250 Yeah, I mean, the human trials have been people choosing to use it. 462 00:28:16,550 --> 00:28:21,910 Look. Look, I hate to second -guess that man. I'm afraid of the impact it would 463 00:28:21,910 --> 00:28:26,190 have on the global economy. But that's not how human trials work. 464 00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:29,690 That's just selling people shit, then seeing what happens. 465 00:28:29,890 --> 00:28:34,730 And what happened in his case is that the Missouri AG has sued his company for 466 00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:37,310 deceptively marketing 708 and Kratom as safe products. 467 00:28:37,770 --> 00:28:40,790 Incidentally, during that investigation, it was noted his company had recalled 468 00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:45,670 more than 3 million pills after a bottle of tablet that were marketed as 469 00:28:45,670 --> 00:28:49,790 containing 7 .5 milligrams of 7 -OH turned out to contain around... 470 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,120 34 milligrams. 471 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,260 Over four times as much. And while apparently, I have to tell you, the 472 00:28:56,260 --> 00:29:00,420 has said it makes substantial efforts to ensure its products are safe and 473 00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:04,720 reliable and that this appears to have been an isolated outlier. First, I think 474 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,100 we might disagree on what the word substantial means. 475 00:29:07,420 --> 00:29:12,460 And that statement appears much less reassuring to me than I think they want 476 00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:13,339 to sound. 477 00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:17,660 Especially given 34 milligrams is more than double the maximum recommended 478 00:29:17,660 --> 00:29:19,040 dosage on the package. 479 00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:24,490 And double the maximum dosage is one of the more alarming reasons for a recall. 480 00:29:24,530 --> 00:29:28,430 It's right up there with, it's actually horse meat and sometimes it just 481 00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:32,330 explodes. Oh shit, oh shit, another one's gone. Oh, you know what? 482 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:34,770 I'm sure it's fine. Elon's a genius. 483 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:40,650 Now, I should say, some states are taking action. For example, as of 484 00:29:40,810 --> 00:29:45,050 all of these had some form of regulation on 708 or Kratom, ranging from age 485 00:29:45,050 --> 00:29:48,190 restrictions and labelling requirements to outright bans. 486 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,180 I admit, this is complicated. 487 00:29:51,780 --> 00:29:55,540 Because first, as we've talked about multiple times before on this show, in 488 00:29:55,540 --> 00:29:59,900 general, full -on prohibition and criminalisation just isn't great drug 489 00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:04,360 And second, when it comes to this particular industry, whenever one drug 490 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,720 banned, another can quickly take its place. All of which brings us to our 491 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,620 type of gas station drug, T -Neptine. Remember that guy you saw earlier with 492 00:30:12,620 --> 00:30:14,160 big pile of bottles? 493 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:15,680 Those weren't Kratom. 494 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,720 He'd already kicked an addiction to that after his state banned it, only for him 495 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,320 to then get hooked on TNFD. 496 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,880 It's actually sold as a pharmaceutical in Europe as an antidepressant, but has 497 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,120 not been approved by the FDA for any medical use here. 498 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,620 Instead, it's been marketed as a nootropic or cognitive enhancer in 499 00:30:33,620 --> 00:30:38,820 like Neptune's Fix, Zaza, and Piana. And I will say, it is not a great sign that 500 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:41,640 TNFD quickly picked up this catchy nickname. 501 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,280 You can find it online at convenience stores, even gas stations. But experts 502 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,420 sounding the alarm, calling what's in these bottles and pills gas station 503 00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:57,540 heroin. Yeah, gas station heroin. And I know on its face, that sounds like the 504 00:30:57,540 --> 00:31:02,340 title of a pretty good Lana Del Rey song, but it's also a real nickname for 505 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:06,040 widely available drug that can be incredibly dangerous. Because TNFD has 506 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,900 linked to hundreds of reports of harm, including overdoses and death. 507 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,940 Alabama actually banned it. 508 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,740 a few years ago, but in true whack -a -mole style, a similar product called 509 00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:19,680 Frenzy quickly replaced it on shelves, with at least one store there even 510 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,960 labelling it as From the Maker of Tiana. 511 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,220 And even when states pass laws, the truth is they don't always get well 512 00:31:26,220 --> 00:31:30,320 enforced, meaning that TNeptine still wound up sitting on shelves for people 513 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,840 buy. And that has led to some tragic outcomes, like this story from a few 514 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,840 ago in Ohio. 515 00:31:35,950 --> 00:31:40,310 It was at this Midwestern gas station that Chris Hagerty bought a bottle of 516 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:45,350 Neptune's Fix, even though the product contained PNeptine banned a year earlier 517 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:46,430 by the state of Ohio. 518 00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:49,750 I miss him dearly. 519 00:31:50,130 --> 00:31:54,870 In an interview with the I -Team almost four months ago, Hagerty's mother billed 520 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:57,390 gas station heroin as death in a bottle. 521 00:31:57,690 --> 00:31:59,270 Fifteen dollars a bottle. 522 00:31:59,530 --> 00:32:01,070 How many people bought it? 523 00:32:01,580 --> 00:32:07,660 Besides my son, it was for sale at the gas station, just right next to the 524 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:09,420 lottery tickets and the cigarettes. 525 00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:14,220 Yeah, that is terrible. And it is hard to believe that something so immediately 526 00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:17,840 dangerous could be sold at the gas station next to lottery tickets. 527 00:32:18,140 --> 00:32:21,580 It would be like finding out that PetSmart sells hand grenades next to the 528 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:24,260 hamsters. Come on, PetSmart! 529 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,700 You know everyone always swings by the hamsters. You're getting people at their 530 00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:29,720 weakest point. 531 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,160 And frustratingly, behind closed doors, some in this industry seem well aware 532 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,080 that the products they're selling can be dangerous. The reason that I know that 533 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,840 is that one of our producers actually went to a trade show, like the one you 534 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,380 earlier, and to answer your first question, yeah, of course she saw a 535 00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:48,980 -themed Cybertruck in the parking lot. Of course she saw that. You could 536 00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:52,640 practically hear the Limp Bizkit music wafting out of it. 537 00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:56,060 The whole convention was honestly a pretty good glimpse. 538 00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:59,300 into an industry clearly already planning for what comes next. 539 00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:03,280 A lot of vendors seemed ready for 7 -OH to be banned as they were already 540 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,540 marketing newer products like this one, whose marketing material said, the 541 00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:10,760 future of Kratom, compliant in all Kratom legal states, seven hydroxy 542 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,860 replacement, three to four times stronger than 7 -OH. 543 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,920 She also spoke to a rep from a distribution company that sells boner 544 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,620 got surprisingly honest about the fact that while some of their products are 545 00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:24,200 kind of bullshit, others could be actively dangerous. 546 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,400 Take a listen. 547 00:33:41,170 --> 00:33:42,170 Wow. 548 00:33:42,670 --> 00:33:46,050 I wouldn't advise selling these to people over 50. 549 00:33:46,450 --> 00:33:50,710 That is a reasonable thing to say if you're selling tickets to an Olivia 550 00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:51,710 concert. 551 00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:55,370 But not when you're talking about your company's unregulated dick pills. And it 552 00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:59,490 does feel like don't consume if you're over 50 is the kind of thing that 553 00:33:59,490 --> 00:34:02,870 shouldn't be whispered at trade shows, but slapped in massive lettering on your 554 00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:07,730 packaging. This is a photo of that man's table. And these are some of the pills 555 00:34:07,730 --> 00:34:10,070 that he told us were super potent. They're called Mr. 556 00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:11,009 Bull tablets. 557 00:34:11,010 --> 00:34:13,090 And their tagline is, do it like pro. 558 00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:18,690 So we actually ordered some and sent them to this lab to be analysed. And 559 00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:22,389 found that when that guy said the pills were super potent, he wasn't lying. 560 00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:26,889 Because each contained 180 milligrams of dipoxetine. That's three to six times 561 00:34:26,889 --> 00:34:30,590 the prescription dose of a drug for premature ejaculation that's not been 562 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:35,710 approved for use here in the US. And they contained 270 milligrams of 563 00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:40,150 sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra. That's nearly three times the 564 00:34:40,150 --> 00:34:42,810 maximum prescription dose. That is a lot. 565 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,360 And worryingly, none of those ingredients were listed on the package, 566 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,820 instead claimed it's an all -natural herbal supplement containing stuff like 567 00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:53,800 cinnamon bark, licorice, and deer root. 568 00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:57,800 All of which just sounds like the ingredients on sleepy thyme tea. 569 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,980 And there is a reason that the sleepy bear isn't rocking a massive hard -on on 570 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:03,980 that package. 571 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,460 So, what do we do? 572 00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:11,360 Well, first, take care of it, but also, RFK. 573 00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:15,510 And his FDA director. I've actually been talking about the dangers of some of 574 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:18,070 these products, which I guess is good. 575 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:22,290 I do worry RFK is either going to say they cause autism or suggest they 576 00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:26,370 be replaced with ground -up raccoon carcass. But still, it's something. 577 00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:30,910 Unfortunately, though, any good moves that they take are likely to be 578 00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:34,130 by the fact that they've gutted the FDA, which, even before they came along, 579 00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:35,710 wasn't exactly well -staffed. 580 00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:39,290 Meanwhile, some states are taking a more proactive approach. Missouri's AG, for 581 00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:42,390 instance, has launched an investigation into major crater manufacturers and 582 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:44,870 retailers for potentially dangerous and illegal practices. 583 00:35:45,090 --> 00:35:49,850 That is how they came to be suing this guy. Although it shows how slippery this 584 00:35:49,850 --> 00:35:54,930 industry is that he said that if 708 is banned, his company already has another 585 00:35:54,930 --> 00:36:00,250 product ready to replace it. Look, something clearly has to be done with 586 00:36:00,250 --> 00:36:03,110 industry, but the key thing is to do it very carefully. 587 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,760 Because in the case of products containing Kratom, 70H and T -Neptine, a 588 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,000 people have now become dependent on them. 589 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:14,600 And one thing I want to be absolutely clear about is, if states are going to 590 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,260 start banning some of these drugs, that should only happen alongside a plan to 591 00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:22,160 help people who cannot suddenly stop using them. Whether it's because they're 592 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,920 using them to treat pain, or because they've become addicted. 593 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,320 Because if we learned one thing from the opioid crisis, it's that every family 594 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,660 fortune is built on the blood of strangers. But if we learned... 595 00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:37,840 Two things is that when you take something very strong off the market, 596 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,780 everyone can just quit cold turkey. 597 00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:45,040 So there has to be a harm reduction plan to go alongside any potential ban. And 598 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,220 I know there are plenty of substances out there that are addictive or 599 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:53,760 Alcohol, tobacco, prescription drugs. But with those things, we've tried over 600 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,160 the years, and not always perfectly, to match the level of regulation around 601 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,440 them to the level of risks they present. 602 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,920 to make sure that at the very least you know what you're getting and what risks 603 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,180 you're taking when you choose to consume them. What we haven't done, though, is 604 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:11,640 let it be a total free -for -all where companies can just sell whatever they 605 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,800 want to anyone who wants it and lie about what it contains. 606 00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:19,100 And unfortunately, right now, it's become incumbent upon all of us to make 607 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:22,640 ourselves aware of the potential dangers here, because these products can be 608 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,560 much more addictive than you think, more powerful than you may even want them to 609 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,100 be, and contain things you did not sign up for. 610 00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:35,690 So if I may quote Joe Rogan, something I really don't love to do, it's crucial 611 00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:38,950 to know that this stuff could, in his words, fuck you up. 612 00:37:39,570 --> 00:37:44,550 But unlike Joe Rogan, it's just as crucial to not then swallow ten of them. 613 00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:49,290 Because while gas station drugs may look fun and low -risk, especially when 614 00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:53,350 they're sold in familiar environments, the truth is you could easily wind up 615 00:37:53,350 --> 00:37:57,330 addicted and losing tens of Honda Civics worth of money to them. 616 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,140 Or indeed, far, far worse. And now, this. 617 00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:05,700 And now, coming up on Inside Edition. 618 00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,400 Next, Grammy gamers. 619 00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:09,960 Give me the kill shot. 620 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,020 And Gator face -off. No. 621 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,380 What? Worst birth pit ever? 622 00:38:18,020 --> 00:38:22,900 And identical triplets. They do everything together. 623 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:30,340 including hair transplant, plus bickering on Kiss Cam, plus underground 624 00:38:30,340 --> 00:38:37,220 serenade by the guy they call the Sewer Singer, plus attacked by 625 00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:43,320 a giant crab on live TV, and... Jessica, what's so magical about the name 626 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,260 Jessica that instantly brings temper tantrums to a halt? 627 00:38:47,580 --> 00:38:52,220 Next, what are all these people in white hazmat suits doing? And is that a 628 00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:54,440 former star from TV's Baywatch? 629 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:59,960 And the greatest kitchen hacks of all time. Then, agony of defeat. 630 00:39:00,580 --> 00:39:03,660 Selena Gomez's husband's dirty feet drama. 631 00:39:03,980 --> 00:39:05,980 And this can't end well. 632 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,280 That's our show. Thanks so much for watching. We'll see you next week. Good 633 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,280 night. 634 00:39:16,510 --> 00:39:17,510 Tell everybody the headlines. 635 00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:20,390 There's a storm strike. 636 00:39:21,730 --> 00:39:23,650 Then, please be careful. 637 00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:28,350 Hot. Then, that's so cool. Cool. Cool air is cool? 638 00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:33,010 Yeah. Are you going to come back and do this at 10 o 'clock here tonight? 639 00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:35,910 You're having so much fun, we're going to do this at 10? 640 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:38,230 Probably not. 60332

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