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Come on over a minute.
I just had some ideas that
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I'd been thinking about
for quite a while,
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about modulation.
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It seems to me
that there are
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different themes in life.
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And one of my main jobs,
it seems to me,
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is to help through
the mass media,
for children...
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To help children through
some of the difficult
modulations of life.
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Because it's easy,
for instance, to go from C
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to F.
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But there are some modulations
that aren't so easy.
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For instance,
to go from F, to F-sharp,
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you've got to weave through
all sorts of things.
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And it seems to me
if you've got
somebody to help you,
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as you weave...
Maybe this is just
too philosophical?
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Maybe I'm trying
to combine things
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that can't be combined,
but it makes sense to me.
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Fourteen years ago,
a television program
for children,
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made its inauspicious debut
on Station WQED in Pittsburgh.
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It's host, Fred Rogers,
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an ordained minister
with an abiding interest
in children,
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and an equally abiding belief
hat they deserve more
from television.
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It's a beautiful dayin this neighborhood
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A beautiful day
for a neighbor
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Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
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It's a neighborly day
in this beauty
Would...
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A neighborly day
for a beauty
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Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
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I have always wanted
to have a neighbor
just like you
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I've always wanted
to live in a neighborhood
with you
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So, let's make
the most of this beautiful day
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Since we're together
we might as well say
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Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
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Won't you be my neighbor?
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Won't you please,
won't you please?
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Please, won't you be
my neighbor
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- Mr. Rogers?
- Yes.
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Where do you live?
I live in Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania.
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Did you want to...
Pardon me?
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They are gathered
in this television studio
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with Fred Rogers,
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an adult who cares
just about them.
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His reward is the love
of millions of children.
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I want to tell you something.
What would you
like to tell me?
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I like you.
I like you,
my dear.
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Thank you very much
for telling me that.
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We hada director that oncesaid to me,
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"If you take all of the
elements that make good
television,"
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"and do the exact opposite,
you have Mister Rogers'Neighborhood."
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Low production values,
simple set, unlikely star.
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Yet, it worked...
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because he was saying
something really important.
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Love is at the root
of everything.
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All learning, all parenting,
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all relationships.
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Love or the lack of it.
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And what we see and hear
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on the screen is part
of who we become.
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He hada singular visionof kindness and love,
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but a question that I think
of a lot in terms of Fred is
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whether his attempt
to influence America
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succeeded or not.
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I was all setto go to the seminaryto become a minister,
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but I went home
my senior year
for a vacation
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and I saw this new
thing called television.
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And I saw people throwing pies
in each other's faces.
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"And I thought,
"This could be
a wonderful tool.
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"Why is it being
used this way?"
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So I said to my parents,
"I don't think I'll go
to seminary right away.
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"I think maybe
I'll go into television."
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And they said,
"Wait, but you've
never even seen it."
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Station WQED is locatedin the heart of Pittsburgh.
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His father told himabout this new station,
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that was coming along here.
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It was going to be called...
It was called
Educational Television.
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Nobody wanted
to do a children's program.
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I said, "Well, we need
a children's program."
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And I said, "Well, I'll
produce it and play some
music in the background.
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"We'll get some free films
and, Josie, you can
introduce them."
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And then we discovered
the awful fact
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that when you got free film,
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it was often brittle
and it would break.
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And if you were on the air
live, you had to do something.
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Somebody had given me
this little tiger puppet.
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I pushed it through
in the clock and said,
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"Hi, Josie,
it's 5:02 and Columbus
discovered America in 1492,"
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and then just went
right back in.
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And that's how the puppetry
began. We never expected
to use puppets.
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There's so much of it was
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the necessity being
the mother of that invention.
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My friend,
Daniel Striped Tiger.
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How do you do?
How do you do?
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The interesting thing
was Dad remembered
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being 6 and 7 and 8
and 9 years old.
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That inner child never
really went away.
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I had everyimaginable childhooddisease, even scarlet fever.
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Whenever I was quarantined
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I would be in bed a lot.
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I would put up my knees,
and they would be mountains
covered with the sheet.
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I'd have all these
little figures moving around
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and I'd make them talk.
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I had to make up
a lot of my own fun.
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Take that.
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What's the matter?
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Over time Fred became
unsatisfied with
The Children's Corner.
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He thought that
it was simple and slapstick.
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And he said he really
wanted to concentrate
on the seminary,
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so he wanted to stop
for a while.
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His ordinationwas as an evangelistfor television.
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It was pretty way out there
for the Presbyterian Church.
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With television,
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Fred wanted to focus
on the very young.
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What do
you think it is?
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A lion!
A lion, great!
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Back in the 1950s,
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there was a school
of people
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at the University
of Pittsburgh,
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looking at early childhood
education.
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They felt that physiciansneeded a training ground.
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So that, they had a sense
of where human behavior
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was coming from the very
beginning.
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Dr. Benjamin Spock
was part of it.
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Berry Brazelton,
the famous pediatrician,
was a part of it.
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Erik Erikson,
the extraordinary
psychologist,
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was a part of it,
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and Fred's part
of that group.
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He became part of
the group as a student
of Margaret McFarland.
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Fred, I think to the child,
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the television program between
you and the child is a real
relationship.
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- For him to say,- "The feelings of a young child
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"are every bit as powerful
as our adult feelings..."
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He was radical. I know
everyone says that,
but he was radical.
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I've always felt that
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I didn't need to put
on a funny hat,
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or jump through the hoop
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to have a relationship
with the child.
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So, I went to visit a new
nursery school.
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I had never met
these children before.
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And I walked in
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and there was a long stare
from most of them.
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And one little boy
by the name of Thatcher
spoke first.
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And all he said was,
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"My doggy's ear came off
in the automatic washer."
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And there was silence,
just complete silence.
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It was as if,
"This is your
test, Mr. Rogers.
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"Are you still in touch
with childhood?"
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And so I said,
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"Sometimes that happens
to toys, doesn't it?"
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"Their ears come off
or their legs come off,"
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"but that never happens to us."
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"Our ears don't come off.
Our noses don't come off."
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"Our arms don't come off."
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Thatcher's eyes were getting
bigger and bigger and bigger,
and he said,
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"And our legs
don't come off."
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And I said, "No, they don't."
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And, immediately,
all of the other children
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started asking questions
and poignant questions!
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It was just as if, you know,
"We shall now open the door."
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"You have passed the test.
You may come in."
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And what
he wanted to do
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was to take all of that
he learned in television work,
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add to that
the sense of ministry,
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and the child development
background.
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It became
Mister Rogers' Neighborhood.
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A neighborhood
was a place where at times
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that you felt worried,
scared, unsafe,
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would take care of you, would
provide understanding, safety.
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That's what the neighborhood
was for Fred.
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Television
has the chance
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of building a real community
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out of an entire country.
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The neighborhood
is not a fantasy place
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where all these
different people got together
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and everything was happily
ever after.
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When you have diverse people
together with their
different opinions,
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you have conflict.
And that's what happens
in the neighborhood.
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You have conflict,
real conflict.
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Halt, trolley!
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Give me your name,
rank, and serial number.
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"King Friday the 13th
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"establishes border guard."
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"King Against Change."
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The parallels betweenwhat is happeningin the real world
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and what is happening
inside the neighborhood
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are uncanny and undeniable.
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In 1968,
the country is at war.
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He can go on fighting
longer than we can.
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Frightened, meow,
frightened, meow.
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There's nothing
to be frightened
about
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until somebody
starts shooting,
Henrietta.
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Meow-meow,
start shooting, meow!
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That was the first timehe knew that
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he was producing something
for a national audience.
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King Friday was really
irritated that people
were changing things.
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So, his reaction
as the authority
was to build a wall.
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Oh, it's very sharpIt's very sharp
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Oh, my,
barbed wire is very sharp
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Remember our
battle cry, Edgar?
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Down with
the changers!
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Down with the changersDown with the changers
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We don't want
anything to change
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'Cause we're on top!
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That's right.
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'Cause we're...At least you're on top
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I can't believe
what a broad area we covered.
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Edgar, Edgar,
what do you think
he means by "any trouble"?
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Fred didn't want you
ad-libbing, putzing
around with the words,
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because he was always trying
to get a message across
in every show.
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I want there
to be peace in
this neighborhood.
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It's been a hard time
for everyone.
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Well, I really do
hope that what you
say'll work.
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Do you have
the tags
on the bottom?
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Yes, I put them on.
Look, see if you
like them.
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Good.
"Love"
this one says.
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And then we float them
over into the castle,
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so that Great Uncle Friday
will know that the whole
neighborhood wants peace.
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Paratroopers!
Fire the cannon!
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Hold it, King Friday.
Well, what is it?
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They're not paratroopers.
They're messages of peace.
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Look at this,
"Tenderness."
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Messages of peace?
"Peaceful co-existence."
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Wait.
You see that one was...
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They're peaceful
messages, sir.
Let us stop all fighting.
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Stop all fighting now.
Superb! Superb!
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Meow, wonderful, meow!
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That was the first week.
That's how it got started.
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It's a beautiful dayin this neighborhood
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A beautiful day
for a neighbor
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Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
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From the early days
of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
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until the end of that program
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he came in the door
every day the same way.
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Hi. Hello!
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And he changed
to the sweater to
give a sense that
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we were going to have
this relaxing time together.
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Whoop.
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Change the shoes.
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Some food for the fish.
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Picture, picture on the wall,
would you kindly tell us all,
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is Mr. McFeely
on his way here?
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My job
was to be the prop person.
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And then he said, "Oh, I know
you've done some acting."
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"I'd like you to play
the character
of the delivery man."
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I must go off, Mr. Rogers.
I have a lot of deliveries
today in the neighborhood.
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So, I became
"Mr. McFeely"
on the spot.
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Trolley
left for its house...
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Into the neighborhood
of Make-Believe.
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Boomerang,
toomerang,
sumurang!
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Anything could
happen in Make-Believe.
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But Make-Believe was not
real. I mean, there was
a distinction.
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Fred never appeared
in Make-Believe.
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The actors did.
The puppets did.
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There's the clockwhere DanielStriped Tiger lives.
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Next you see King Friday
XIII's castle.
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King Friday XIII is one
of the few remaining
benevolent despots.
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These characters are...
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Were people
in his life.
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Queen Sara would
obviously be my mom.
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I'd just like to say
what a fine person
my husband is.
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Why, Sara!
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None of us like to think
of Lady Elaine as my aunt,
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but we wonder
about that.
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In the beginning,
she was a witch.
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I heard that.
Here's a squirt.
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What can I say?
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In a beautifultree, lived X the Owland Henrietta Pussycat.
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Meow-meow, beautiful day,
meow-meow neighborhood.
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And then at the endof every program
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we came back to Fred's
television house.
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And to help children
understand all of these
experiences,
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he put that into a song.
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I like you as you are
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Exactly and precisely
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I think you turned out
nicely, and I like you
as you are
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And children need
to hear that.
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I don't think that
anybody can grow
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unless he really
is accepted exactly
as he is.
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I think he was
one of those people
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who would do
their work seriously
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and they hope that someone
will pick up on
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the seriousness of what
they're about.
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"There were times when he
thought, "Will people
ever understand that
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"I'm not just a klutzy guy
who's falling around"
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"in a 50s' living room
with weird curtains?"
285
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WGBH in Boston decided
to have something called
a "Mister Rogers Day."
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There was just a woman in GBH
who was in their PR department
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who loved the program, and I
think her colleagues said...
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You know, I think they
thought it was really
simple, kind of '50s, square.
289
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And she said,
"No, I really want
to bring him here,
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"and I want families
to be able to come
and see him."
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And the line to get in
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was blocks and blocks
long before they even
opened the doors.
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And the word got around
really quickly
294
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that there's something
going on with this guy.
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Mr. Rogers,
Mr. Rogers.
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I like you as you are.
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A little boy
came up to him
and said,
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"Mr. Rogers,
how did you get out?"
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And so he talked
to the little boy,
300
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explained what television
was all about.
301
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And the little boy's
just taking it all in,
going, "Mmm-hmm, mmm-hmm."
302
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And when Fred finished
he said the little boy said,
303
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"How are you
gonna get back in?"
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There was a whole spiritualdimension to his work
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in the television business
to be inclusive.
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He did this without ever
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identifying himself
as a minister.
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He didn't wear a collar.
He wore a sweater.
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And he preached
in that context
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in a way more effective
than anyone I've ever seen,
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because it wasn't a sermon
like an oratorical thing.
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It was a communication
right into their hearts.
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He was a life-long
registered Republican
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and if you look
at the values that
Mr. Rogers represented,
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it's influenced by his faith.
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His Christianity was this kind
of wide open Christianity
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that was accepting thinking
from all other places
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while never departing
from the Christian faith.
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Fred'stheology was love yourneighbor and love yourself.
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And he saw
that communication
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as the most
deeply spiritual thing
that he could be doing.
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- When I look at the camera,- I think of one person.
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Not any specific person,
but one person.
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It's very, very personal.
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The space between
the television screen
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and whoever happens
to be receiving it,
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I consider that
very holy ground.
328
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A lot happens.
A lot happens there.
329
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For somebody that was in
television he was just...
He hated television.
330
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Here, buddy,
it's all yours.
331
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Wow! Look at this!
Hey, what about me?
332
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In this country,the child is appreciatedfor what he will be.
333
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He will be a great consumer
some day.
334
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The quicker we can get them
to go out and buy, the better.
335
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There's so much of that
in this country.
336
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Mr. Ellison, I think you
have felt strongly about
some aspects of this.
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Public television
could make a contribution.
338
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As the American people
becomes aware of itself,
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it discovers itself.
340
00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:22,898
We do not know as much
as we should know about
who we are,
341
00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:25,810
what we are,
and how we differ.
342
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How will Manuse his miracles?
343
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The answer just begins
with public television.
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We want most of all
to enrich Man's spirit
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and that is the purpose
of this act.
346
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And then Nixon became
president and he wanted
to cut the funding.
347
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The beginnings of PBS
348
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was gonna probably
be dismantled
349
00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,224
by Richard Nixon,
whose approach to media
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was to threaten stations
351
00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:07,609
if they didn't behave
politically.
352
00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:10,609
Nixon had a problem
with his budget.
353
00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:12,899
He had to find money
for the Vietnam War.
354
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It wasn't a lot of money
in today's terms,
355
00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:16,736
but he wanted
to cut the budget.
356
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:21,954
In the midst of all this,
Fred Rogers gets to go
before Congress,
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argue for $20 million
of funding
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to sort of solidify PBS,
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00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:32,381
in front of John Pastore,
who is a senator who had
already
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sort of made his
Congressional bones
by attacking television.
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This is gonna be
a thorough hearing.
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This is gonna be a hearing
not to reach for a headline,
363
00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:44,514
but to reach
for a result.
364
00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:49,269
There had been two days
of hearings and he hasn't
been very impressed.
365
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If you'd been watching
those hearings
366
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and you had to bet
on whether or not
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PBS was going to keep
going... No!
368
00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:57,615
That educational television
should permanently struggle
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00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:59,495
for subsistence
is intolerable.
370
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All right,
who's the next witness?
371
00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:05,250
Senator Pastoretold the group,
372
00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,954
"I've heard everybody
read your testimonies."
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"I don't want anyone
to read anymore. I'm
tired of hearing the reading."
374
00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:14,836
When I heard about that
I thought, "Uh-oh, Fred."
375
00:25:15,139 --> 00:25:17,130
All right, Rogers,
you've got the floor.
376
00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:22,973
And I could hear
in his voice, the nerves.
377
00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:25,479
Senator Pastore,
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00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,647
this is a philosophical
statement
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and would take about
ten minutes to read.
380
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So, I'll not do that.
381
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One of the first things
that a child learns
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in a healthy family is trust.
383
00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:46,747
And I trust what you
have said, that you
will read this.
384
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It's very important to me.
I care deeply about children.
385
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,669
My first children...
Will it make you happy
if you read it?
386
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I'd just like
to talk about it,
387
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,710
if it's all right.
All right, sir.
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This is what I give,
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I give an expression
of care every day
to each child
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to help him realize
that he is unique.
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00:26:10,652 --> 00:26:12,643
I end the program
by saying,
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00:26:12,988 --> 00:26:17,607
"You've made this day
a special day by just
you're being you."
393
00:26:18,202 --> 00:26:21,194
"There's no person
in the whole world like you."
394
00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:24,200
"And I like you just
the way you are."
395
00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:27,576
And I feel that if we,
in public television,
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can only make it clear
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that feelings
are mention-able
and manageable,
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we will have done
a great service.
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00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,637
Could I tell you
the words of one of the songs,
400
00:26:43,727 --> 00:26:45,559
which I feel
is very important?
401
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Yes.
402
00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:50,936
This has to do with
that good feeling of control,
403
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:55,820
which I feel that
children need
to know is there.
404
00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:59,566
And it starts out,
"What do you do
with the mad that you feel?"
405
00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:02,235
And that first line
came straight from a child.
406
00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,116
I work with children,
doing puppets
407
00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:09,750
in very personal communication
with small groups.
408
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,082
"What do you do with the mad
that you feel"
409
00:27:12,256 --> 00:27:14,588
"when you feel so mad
you could bite?"
410
00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:18,585
"When the whole wide world
seems oh-so-wrong"
411
00:27:18,762 --> 00:27:21,174
"and nothing you do
seems very right?"
412
00:27:22,558 --> 00:27:24,720
"It's great to be able to stop"
413
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,511
"when you've planned a thing
that's wrong"
414
00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:31,314
"and be able to do something
else instead"
415
00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,440
"and think this song,"
416
00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:37,774
"I can stop when I want to,
can stop when I wish,"
417
00:27:37,948 --> 00:27:40,406
"can stop, stop,
stop any time."
418
00:27:40,617 --> 00:27:43,735
"Know that there's something
deep inside"
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00:27:43,912 --> 00:27:46,449
"that helps us
become what we can."
420
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:51,996
I think it's wonderful.
I think it's wonderful.
421
00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:56,710
Looks like you just earned
the $20 million.
422
00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:09,598
Fred Rogersis easily the starof the show
423
00:28:09,771 --> 00:28:11,478
and if children had votes,
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00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:13,980
public television would be
on Easy Street tomorrow.
425
00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:19,144
Oh, wow!
426
00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:21,982
Everything just
sort of exploded.
427
00:28:22,659 --> 00:28:26,527
You know, suddenly there
was press beating a path
to our door.
428
00:28:27,831 --> 00:28:30,072
Good evening. I was in
Pittsburgh a few days ago
429
00:28:30,334 --> 00:28:33,326
doing a bit of investigative
reporting on a man named
Fred Rogers.
430
00:28:33,462 --> 00:28:36,830
Meow-meow-meow
wonderful! Meow!
431
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:40,508
Mr. Rogersdoes ten different voices,for ten different puppets.
432
00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:43,669
Well, a copperhead
is poisonous, is it not?
433
00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:47,552
He writes, he's the producer,he's the chief performer,
434
00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:49,054
and he is a marvel.
435
00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,719
Fred Rogers,
as best I can tell,
436
00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:54,559
has managed to escape
the calloused, the embittered,
437
00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:57,558
the negative aspects
of being a public performer.
438
00:28:58,153 --> 00:29:00,861
He is doing the one thing
in the world that he
wishes to do
439
00:29:01,323 --> 00:29:04,111
and he is by any definition
a happy man.
440
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:17,416
I sometimes wonder
myself how he ticked.
441
00:29:18,048 --> 00:29:22,884
It's a little tough for me to
have the... Almost the second
Christ as my dad.
442
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:25,924
if we were
at the dinner table,
443
00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:27,880
and he would want
to say something
444
00:29:28,058 --> 00:29:31,926
that wasn't necessarily
Mr. Rogers-like,
445
00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:36,890
he would say it in Lady Elaine
Fairchilde's voice.
446
00:29:37,192 --> 00:29:40,480
Get out here, Friday.
I need to speak with you.
447
00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:44,401
That was our cue that
this is the alter-ego
speaking now,
448
00:29:44,574 --> 00:29:46,906
you know, and just
letting off a little steam.
449
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,369
He and I bothhad childhoods that youweren't allowed to be angry.
450
00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:57,577
You weren't allowed
to show your anger.
451
00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:02,252
And we were never
able to do it.
452
00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:05,509
It scared us.
453
00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:12,178
Music was my
first language.
454
00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,971
I was scared to use words.
455
00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,058
I didn't want to be a bad boy.
456
00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:24,607
I didn't want to tell people
that I was angry.
457
00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:30,575
But I could show it through
458
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:34,447
the way I would play
on the piano.
459
00:30:35,292 --> 00:30:39,286
I could literally laugh or cry
460
00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:42,751
or be very angry through
the ends of my fingers.
461
00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:52,139
I've always felt that you were
someone who could understand
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00:30:52,309 --> 00:30:54,926
the deep feelings
or thoughts of people.
463
00:30:55,437 --> 00:30:59,146
Well, it took me
so long to get tame.
464
00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:03,317
I try to understand how
everybody else is working
at it.
465
00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:05,235
Sometimes it isn't easy.
466
00:31:05,322 --> 00:31:08,155
No, but it's worth
a try.
467
00:31:08,992 --> 00:31:10,949
Daniel was pretty
much Fred.
468
00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:17,703
He did all the voices,
but I think Daniel was
469
00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:19,996
the real Fred.
470
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:26,416
Maybe I could talk about
clocks and loving,
471
00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:28,375
and things like that.
472
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,635
"A, B, C, D,"
473
00:31:30,806 --> 00:31:33,889
"F, G, J, K,
L, M, S..."
474
00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:38,018
Oh, Lady Aberlin,
I just can't
go to school tomorrow!
475
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,970
Why not, Daniel?
476
00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:42,432
Because I don't
know everything.
477
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:45,976
Daniel is articulating
478
00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:49,108
the fears and anxieties
and feelings
479
00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:52,191
that Fred had
as a child,
480
00:31:53,036 --> 00:31:54,822
but that many
children have.
481
00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:02,827
He never forgothow vulnerable it wasto be a kid.
482
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:05,082
You know, you're
this little thing.
483
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,881
Everything else in the world
is bigger than you are
484
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,878
and you have to learn
everything that helps
you get through life.
485
00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:17,386
L think that it just
never left him.
486
00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,094
Whatever those scars
of his life were,
487
00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:24,228
he wanted to help heal
that wound, maybe?
488
00:32:25,902 --> 00:32:29,190
It's a lot easier
even as an adult
489
00:32:30,699 --> 00:32:33,908
for me to have Daniel say,
490
00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:36,610
"I'm really scared."
491
00:32:38,248 --> 00:32:40,740
"Do you think maybe
you could give me a hug?"
492
00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:44,081
You know? But that would
be hard for me to say,
493
00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:46,494
"I'm really scared.
Do you think you
could give me a hug?"
494
00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:50,254
So, the difference
from here to here,
495
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,842
that doesn't
seem very far,
496
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:58,266
but it was efficacious,
497
00:32:58,435 --> 00:32:59,550
to say the least.
498
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:03,596
A car ran over the jaw
of your cat?
Mmm-hmm.
499
00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:06,564
And what happened?
It was bleeding.
500
00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:08,980
Oh.
501
00:33:10,113 --> 00:33:13,572
They tried and fixed it,
but they fixed it
502
00:33:13,742 --> 00:33:16,404
for a half a day,
but then it died.
503
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,452
But then it died?
Mmm-hmm.
504
00:33:19,623 --> 00:33:22,206
Oh, I think
that's scary.
505
00:33:23,293 --> 00:33:28,504
All you had to do
was see Fred inhabit Daniel
506
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:33,084
to really kind of figure
it out. I mean, they were
symbiotic.
507
00:33:34,638 --> 00:33:37,801
As strange as it is
to see a grown man
508
00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:41,304
have a symbiotic relationship
with kind of a dingy,
509
00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:45,145
you know, worn out little
sock puppet, he definitely
had that.
510
00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,144
Would you give
me a hug?
511
00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:52,861
Thank you.
'Cause I needed that.
512
00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:58,442
I better go back
in the case,
Mr. Rogers.
513
00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:00,159
Okay, Daniel.
514
00:34:00,497 --> 00:34:04,661
He's really nice.
You could talk to him.
Okay, Daniel.
515
00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:12,915
Just a minute.
I want to show you something.
516
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:14,796
Okay.
517
00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,837
Wonder what?
518
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,016
It's a balloon.
Oh, a balloon.
519
00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:25,010
Could you blow
it up for me?
Surely.
520
00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:33,902
So, thisis the first year of
Mister Rogers' Neighborhood.
521
00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:38,487
Daniel Striped Tiger
is there with Lady Aberlin
522
00:34:38,660 --> 00:34:41,869
asking her to blow
a balloon up and then
let the air out.
523
00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:45,364
You wonder
why this is in there.
524
00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:52,045
But they can't hear.
Can you hear on any of these?
525
00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:56,254
There's something
I want to ask you.
526
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,928
What does
"assassination" mean?
527
00:35:02,058 --> 00:35:04,891
What happened? Do you know?
Somebody said he's been shot.
528
00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,804
Let's roll some video tape on
this out here, friends.
529
00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:12,728
Have you
heard that word a lot today?
530
00:35:13,403 --> 00:35:17,146
Yes. And I didn't know
what it meant.
531
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:19,861
Well...
532
00:35:21,578 --> 00:35:23,285
It means
533
00:35:25,248 --> 00:35:27,580
somebody
getting killed
534
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,536
in a sort of surprise way.
535
00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:34,504
That's what
happened, you know.
536
00:35:34,591 --> 00:35:36,878
That man killed
that other man.
537
00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:40,594
A lot of people
are sad
538
00:35:41,097 --> 00:35:42,883
and scared about it,
you know.
539
00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:46,141
I'd rather talk
about it some
other day.
540
00:35:46,936 --> 00:35:48,392
Whenever you like.
541
00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:56,231
I felt thatI had to speakto the families
542
00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:58,062
of our country about grief.
543
00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:10,082
A plea not to leave
the children isolated
544
00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:14,545
and at the mercy of their
own fantasies of loss
and destruction.
545
00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:22,260
Children have
very deep feelings
546
00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:24,634
just the way parents do,
547
00:36:25,475 --> 00:36:28,342
just the way everybody does.
548
00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:32,771
And our striving
549
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,481
to understand those feelings
550
00:36:35,944 --> 00:36:38,356
and to better
respond to them
551
00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:43,608
is what I feel is a most
important task in our world.
552
00:36:51,334 --> 00:36:54,372
He realized that
if he really wanted
to communicate,
553
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:58,540
the most important
thing is to listen.
554
00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:02,301
'Cause there's so many people
who will just lump
'em all together
555
00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:07,181
and say, "Hey, kids,
come along. We'll see
the next cartoon."
556
00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:11,435
And they couldn't care less
about what that cartoon
is saying
557
00:37:11,521 --> 00:37:14,980
to the child about such
things as human dignity.
558
00:37:27,203 --> 00:37:29,911
Rememberwhat was happeningfor children's television?
559
00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:32,076
It was speeding up.
560
00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:35,034
Fred was pretty radical
in television for that day
561
00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:38,624
in that he used time
totally differently.
562
00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:49,841
To Fred, silence
was his delight.
563
00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:08,026
Fred took an egg timer
and said,
564
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,039
"Do you want to know how
long a minute is? There.
We're going to show you."
565
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:17,292
And we just sat there
for the whole minute.
566
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,166
There's
a lot of slow space.
567
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:25,091
There's no wasted space.
568
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,095
In.
569
00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:33,057
Out.
570
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,606
L think silence is one
of the greatest gifts
that we have.
571
00:38:50,161 --> 00:38:53,620
His questions are direct,
simple, short,
572
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:55,576
and then he waits.
573
00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:58,120
He interviewed me
574
00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:02,496
and he put his face about
3 inches away from my face,
575
00:39:03,132 --> 00:39:06,466
says, "It's so nice to see you"
576
00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:09,007
"and to be with you."
577
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:12,214
It scared the living
daylights out of me.
578
00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:17,095
But I realized this is what
children do with adults.
579
00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:22,812
And sometimes after
they answer, he doesn't
say anything else.
580
00:39:22,986 --> 00:39:24,727
So, they say
a little bit more.
581
00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:27,859
It's a perfect
interviewing trick.
582
00:39:30,994 --> 00:39:35,989
Very funny! Very funny.
I'm not falling for it.
Very good.
583
00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:51,220
Handyman Negri
and Officer Clemmons,
I presume!
584
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,346
Correct as always,
Your Highness.
585
00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:57,680
Could we take a close
look at your badge here,
Officer Clemmons?
586
00:39:57,854 --> 00:40:01,188
My friends
I think can read it.
587
00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:03,849
P-O-L-I-C-E.
588
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:07,019
I have always felt
policemen to be
589
00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,024
the most dangerous person
in the neighborhood.
590
00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:14,364
So, to have me playing
a police officer I was
tremendously hesitant.
591
00:40:14,537 --> 00:40:17,871
But there was something
reluctant about Fred
to let go.
592
00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:19,907
"And I said," Mr. Rogers,
593
00:40:20,293 --> 00:40:23,331
"I would be very happy
to be on your program,"
594
00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:27,377
"as long as it doesn't
interfere with my singing."
595
00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:31,760
We've had itand now we can go
596
00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:37,716
We don't want
the snow anymore
597
00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:43,431
And he teased me. He teased me
about that for 20 years!
598
00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:45,440
He'd say,
"Officer Clemmons,"
599
00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:50,108
"are we interfering
with your career?
Are we interfering?"
600
00:40:50,406 --> 00:40:53,899
He was relentless,
but he also told me, he said,
601
00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:56,610
"That was the moment
I loved you."
602
00:40:57,121 --> 00:41:00,785
He said, "Because you were not
going to kiss my ass."
603
00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,166
Those are Mr. Rogers' words.
604
00:41:06,756 --> 00:41:08,463
That feels good.
605
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,003
Oh, there's Officer Clemmons.
Hi, Officer Clemmons. Come in.
606
00:41:15,098 --> 00:41:17,242
Hi, Mr. Rogers, how are you?
Fine. Why don't you sit down?
607
00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:18,677
Oh, sure,
just for a moment.
608
00:41:18,768 --> 00:41:21,851
It's so warm I was just
putting some water
on my feet.
609
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:24,267
Oh, it sure is.
Would you like
to join me?
610
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,432
That looks awfully enjoyable,
but I don't have
a towel or anything.
611
00:41:27,527 --> 00:41:30,485
Oh, you share mine.
Okay. Sure!
612
00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:33,215
Around the countrythey didn't want black peopleto come
613
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,023
and swim in their
swimming pools.
614
00:41:36,202 --> 00:41:38,694
And Fred said, "That
is absolutely ridiculous."
615
00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:42,239
Today,
trouble under a noon sun.
616
00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:46,952
Negroes and White rabbis
marched to a segregated
hotel with these results,
617
00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:51,415
the Manager James Brock
told them to get off his
private property,
618
00:41:51,676 --> 00:41:54,464
tossed cleaning chemicals
inside the pool
619
00:41:54,637 --> 00:41:56,969
in an effort to get
the Negroes to leave.
620
00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:01,971
My being on the program
was a statement for Fred.
621
00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:06,146
Cool water
on a hot day.
622
00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:12,686
I think that
will is the great
623
00:42:12,822 --> 00:42:17,612
unseen and unacknowledged
ingredient in Fred's story.
624
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,115
The level of will
that this guy brought
625
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,500
to really almost all phases
of his life, physical
and spiritual.
626
00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:36,005
There's no better
manifestation of that
627
00:42:36,345 --> 00:42:39,007
than 143.
628
00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:41,844
Is that your address here?
Oh, no.
629
00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:44,768
It means
something special.
630
00:42:45,688 --> 00:42:47,770
1-4-3?- Mmm-hmm.
631
00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:52,526
You see, "I" is one letter
632
00:42:52,904 --> 00:42:56,568
and love, L-O-V-E
is four letters,
633
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,693
and "you," Y-O-U
is three letters.
634
00:43:01,871 --> 00:43:05,489
Fred would go to
the Pittsburgh Athletic Club
635
00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:07,619
and he swam a mile.
636
00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:11,248
He swam at a unhurried,
637
00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:14,923
but deliberate
and determined pace.
638
00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:18,802
And then he got on the scale
639
00:43:20,556 --> 00:43:25,266
and the needle
of the scale
jumped to 143.
640
00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:28,395
And he came off it
641
00:43:28,731 --> 00:43:31,018
with kind of a little
smile on his face,
642
00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:34,359
and he told me that
he had weighed
643
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:38,275
143 pounds
every day of his life
644
00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:41,612
since like the late '50s
or early '60s.
645
00:43:46,916 --> 00:43:49,783
Now, I've thought
about this a lot.
646
00:43:49,919 --> 00:43:54,664
With that 143 pound thing,
drives me insane.
647
00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:57,916
Try that!
I can't do that!
648
00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:02,884
In Fred's privatenumerology "I love you"is "143."
649
00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:07,556
So, when the needle
jumps to 143,
650
00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:10,937
there's like this
confirming quality.
651
00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:15,650
There's so many weird things
that I'm not gonna tell you.
652
00:44:18,281 --> 00:44:19,487
No.
653
00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:25,577
Freddy was likethe little rich kid thatlived in the big house.
654
00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:30,533
We were all the goofball kids
that lived across the alley.
655
00:44:31,961 --> 00:44:34,077
We could be ourselves
around Fred.
656
00:44:34,297 --> 00:44:37,585
We were crazies.
We all had long hair,
657
00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:41,425
and we were always having fun.
We were always making jokes.
658
00:44:41,596 --> 00:44:43,303
It's such a good...
659
00:44:51,981 --> 00:44:54,643
All right, that aren't mine.
Who's are these?
660
00:44:58,863 --> 00:45:03,323
if we ever sawa camera lying around,we'd grab it,
661
00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:05,741
I'd pull my pants down,
I'd take a picture of my ass
662
00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:07,284
and put their camera back.
663
00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:11,160
And like, then it was film,
so like three weeks later,
664
00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:14,998
you'd go to the Fotomat
and you'd get your
pictures back
665
00:45:15,171 --> 00:45:18,664
and there's Aunt Judy
and there's Uncle Fred
and there's some guy's ass.
666
00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:22,667
And one day Fred
brought his camera
into the studio
667
00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:24,506
and he was taking pictures
with it.
668
00:45:25,014 --> 00:45:28,006
And we went behind the set,
took a picture of my butt,
669
00:45:28,476 --> 00:45:29,807
and put his camera back.
670
00:45:30,019 --> 00:45:33,353
He never said anything,
and like, months later...
671
00:45:33,648 --> 00:45:35,889
I think it was around
Christmas time,
672
00:45:36,234 --> 00:45:39,317
he said to somebody,
"Did you give Nick
his present?"
673
00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:44,360
And it was a poster of that
picture of me and my butt.
674
00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,373
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
675
00:45:57,546 --> 00:45:59,878
Did you make
these yourself?
676
00:46:00,383 --> 00:46:03,671
I...
677
00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,711
I thought...
I thought of X
the Owl,
678
00:46:06,889 --> 00:46:10,883
so I drew him
in his house
679
00:46:11,227 --> 00:46:13,013
and his little door.
680
00:46:13,896 --> 00:46:18,060
Oh, these are real treasures.
Thank you very much.
681
00:46:18,234 --> 00:46:21,727
You're welcome.
Would you like
to see X the Owl?
682
00:46:24,949 --> 00:46:28,032
You're a little happy. That
makes you just a little bit
happy, huh?
683
00:46:28,703 --> 00:46:30,910
Oh, hello there!
684
00:46:32,456 --> 00:46:34,117
Hello, everybody.
685
00:46:34,417 --> 00:46:37,205
Hi.
I'm X the Owl.
686
00:46:37,586 --> 00:46:40,044
I hear you drew
a picture of me.
687
00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:46,092
This is a book on all
of the different tapes
that we have.
688
00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:48,136
Here are the tapes. Here.
689
00:46:50,057 --> 00:46:54,221
At that point,he thought he had doneenough programs,
690
00:46:54,312 --> 00:46:56,053
that they could
be repeated.
691
00:46:56,147 --> 00:46:58,764
Those are all
different visits,
692
00:47:00,151 --> 00:47:02,939
television visits
that we have on tape.
693
00:47:03,612 --> 00:47:07,355
He was writing,he was hosting, he wassinging, he was composing.
694
00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:10,779
And it took a lot out of him.
I think he wanted a breather.
695
00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,288
Well, next week,
we'll start to show
all of these visits,
696
00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:18,075
so everybody can see them
the whole way through.
697
00:47:18,252 --> 00:47:19,583
I'll look forward
to that.
698
00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:22,128
Let's take a look
at this one.
699
00:47:22,298 --> 00:47:25,131
When you think
about all of those episodes
700
00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:27,921
there's only so many stories
you can tell, right?
701
00:47:28,346 --> 00:47:31,839
What's in the futurefor Fred Rogers?I understand that
702
00:47:31,932 --> 00:47:33,593
you are ceasing production
703
00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:35,800
this spring of
the Neighborhood shows.
704
00:47:36,312 --> 00:47:38,849
Well, it's going
to give us time
to make some things
705
00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:40,980
that I've wanted to do
for a long time.
706
00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:01,542
Hi, Katie.
Hi, Fred.
707
00:48:03,172 --> 00:48:05,755
John, wait till you
see this quilt.
708
00:48:07,343 --> 00:48:11,632
He wanted to do some
prime time stuff for adults
709
00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:15,841
and, so he got funding to do
a show called Old Friends...New Friends.
710
00:48:17,061 --> 00:48:21,806
I wonder what it isthat makes one person pushon in the face of difficulty
711
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,438
and make someone else
crumble in helplessness.
712
00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:28,173
What does
tomorrow feel like?
713
00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:31,861
That big.
I feel that big.
714
00:48:32,368 --> 00:48:33,858
There's no feeling
for tomorrow.
715
00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:35,910
Feeling is dead
for me in here.
716
00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:40,532
He was incredibly open.
717
00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:43,743
He was scarily open.
718
00:48:46,048 --> 00:48:49,507
- He wanted to speak to adults.- He kinda put the puppets away.
719
00:48:50,177 --> 00:48:52,544
But have you watched
some of these?
720
00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:57,974
The feeling that
this instrument
is a place,
721
00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:03,938
that it is a country.
722
00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:09,068
That it's somewhere
that you go
723
00:49:10,072 --> 00:49:12,234
to say something.
724
00:49:17,246 --> 00:49:19,829
What does this have
to do with our world?
725
00:49:21,917 --> 00:49:25,080
I don't know any store
that's like this.
726
00:49:25,629 --> 00:49:27,916
Any television program
that's like this.
727
00:49:29,258 --> 00:49:30,748
A flower is like this.
728
00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,085
A child is like this.
729
00:49:35,764 --> 00:49:39,007
Nobody but Fredwould've thought ofdoing that for adults.
730
00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:41,138
Take number 19.
731
00:49:42,229 --> 00:49:47,144
Thank you for your poems
and your thoughts about
loving poetry and music.
732
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:50,480
You really inspired us
to make this program.
733
00:49:50,821 --> 00:49:52,687
I'll be with you next time.
734
00:49:53,741 --> 00:49:58,201
But he wasn't making
the kind of connections
with adults on television
735
00:49:58,287 --> 00:49:59,847
that he thought
he might be able
to make.
736
00:50:04,627 --> 00:50:08,712
I rememberopening the paper and readingabout a child
737
00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:11,915
jumping off a roof
with a towel around
his neck
738
00:50:12,134 --> 00:50:14,626
because he was playing
Superman.
739
00:50:16,972 --> 00:50:19,339
And there had been
a lot of stories like that.
740
00:50:19,517 --> 00:50:23,636
Some children died
because of the injuries.
I read it to Fred.
741
00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:27,313
It hit him, because
he thought he had covered
742
00:50:27,483 --> 00:50:32,478
all there was to say in child
development, but this was new.
743
00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:35,008
Fred didn't
become angry a lot,
744
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:37,069
but he just
became so angry
745
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,821
about the fact that people
would mislead
a small child.
746
00:50:41,372 --> 00:50:45,491
And angry that it was his
medium that was doing this.
747
00:50:51,048 --> 00:50:52,163
Yeah, Superman.
748
00:50:55,302 --> 00:50:59,591
I am tired of hearing people
who have long ago set aside
749
00:50:59,682 --> 00:51:01,889
the concerns of childhood,
750
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:05,264
telling everybody
what children really need.
751
00:51:05,854 --> 00:51:08,095
I'll tell you
what children need.
752
00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,521
They need adults
who will protect them
753
00:51:13,195 --> 00:51:16,859
from the ever-ready molders
of their world.
754
00:51:20,369 --> 00:51:22,861
That was
the moment Fred said,
755
00:51:23,247 --> 00:51:25,705
"I wonder if we could do
a week on superheroes"
756
00:51:26,208 --> 00:51:29,200
"talking about
the pretend-ness of it?"
757
00:51:30,588 --> 00:51:34,252
Very quickly we came back
with the show.
758
00:51:44,852 --> 00:51:47,059
Careful, Anna,
I don't want you to...
759
00:51:47,146 --> 00:51:50,855
I think I'm flying!
I am! I'm flying!
No, no, you're falling!
760
00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:55,025
What is going on here?
Oh, Anna was trying to fly.
761
00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:58,897
I was using my super-skirt
and I was going through
the air.
762
00:51:59,074 --> 00:52:02,237
Yes, but you were going
down and you might have
gotten hurt!
763
00:52:02,578 --> 00:52:03,909
That's right, Anna.
764
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,242
You have to be
really careful
with super-things.
765
00:52:08,751 --> 00:52:11,459
He was cool
with every kid.
766
00:52:12,296 --> 00:52:15,584
That's the whole thing.
I mean, there were
the kids that were...
767
00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:18,591
They were little bastards.
They were just rowdy and...
768
00:52:18,927 --> 00:52:22,261
Fred never said,
"This kid's a dick.
Get him outta here."
769
00:52:22,431 --> 00:52:24,263
You know, I mean,
I sure would've.
770
00:52:25,601 --> 00:52:28,764
Fred used to say
that the outside world
771
00:52:28,937 --> 00:52:32,726
of children's lives
has changed, but their
insides haven't.
772
00:52:33,275 --> 00:52:36,142
He realized that his work
wasn't through.
773
00:52:36,570 --> 00:52:40,438
I'm Fred Rogers
and I'd like to talk
with you about make-believe.
774
00:52:41,116 --> 00:52:44,359
When it goesto the next levelis in the 1980s
775
00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:45,739
when he goes
to the theme weeks.
776
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:48,446
L mean, to do
a week on death...
777
00:52:48,707 --> 00:52:52,450
"Oh, hi, kids!
We're going to do
a week on death!"
778
00:52:53,962 --> 00:52:55,248
On divorce!
779
00:52:55,339 --> 00:52:57,296
Some people get married
and after a while
780
00:52:57,466 --> 00:52:59,457
they're so unhappy
with each other
781
00:52:59,551 --> 00:53:01,758
that they don't want
to be married anymore.
782
00:53:02,137 --> 00:53:07,348
On children getting lost!
Man! That's guts.
783
00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:13,806
Help! Help, help!
Help, please, everybody!
784
00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:28,782
There's a piece of paperthat I accidentally ran into.
785
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:36,836
And he typed in this little
sheet of paper about how
he couldn't do it,
786
00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:39,914
that he didn't think
he was up to the task.
787
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:45,469
"Am I kiddingmyself that I'm ableto write a script again?
788
00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:50,470
"Am I really just whistling
Dixie? I wonder."
789
00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:54,891
"If I don't get down to it,
I'll never really know."
790
00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:58,724
"Why don't I trust myself?"
791
00:53:59,486 --> 00:54:03,696
"After all these years,
it's just as bad as ever."
792
00:54:06,326 --> 00:54:09,694
"The hour cometh and
now is when I've got to do it."
793
00:54:10,706 --> 00:54:13,038
"Get to it, Fred, get to it!"
794
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:19,295
"But don't let anybody
ever tell anybody else
that it was easy."
795
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:21,163
"It wasn't."
796
00:54:27,723 --> 00:54:32,217
The time thatI was with him goingon a New York City subway,
797
00:54:32,394 --> 00:54:35,557
all the children
in that crowded subway car
798
00:54:36,231 --> 00:54:38,563
began singing
the Neighborhood song.
799
00:54:51,747 --> 00:54:56,366
He might as well have been
an animated figure
stepped into real life.
800
00:54:57,085 --> 00:54:58,085
Could I try that?
801
00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:01,253
I brought my skates
with me. I can try.
802
00:55:08,597 --> 00:55:10,804
What else you
like to do?
Moon walking.
803
00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:13,432
Moonwalk?
You got it. Yeah.
804
00:55:14,144 --> 00:55:17,637
People thoughthe was such an importantAmerican figure
805
00:55:17,815 --> 00:55:21,183
they wanted him to speak
out on the issues of the day.
806
00:55:21,652 --> 00:55:25,316
And, so, Fred grew pretty
comfortably into more of
a public role.
807
00:55:25,489 --> 00:55:30,029
You know, the Earth
is a name for the place
where everybody lives.
808
00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:33,862
And the moon
is the name for the place
809
00:55:34,456 --> 00:55:35,946
where the astronauts go.
810
00:55:36,625 --> 00:55:40,835
Every time we went through
a national or international
tragedy,
811
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:45,081
my impulse was always
to call Fred and put
him on the radio.
812
00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:49,422
What shall we tell our
children about the things
that are in the news
813
00:55:49,596 --> 00:55:52,088
that seem so difficult,
so tragic?
814
00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:56,058
Pilot Mike Smithfollowed by Christa McAuliffe,teacher in space.
815
00:55:57,145 --> 00:56:00,105
Christa has beenrehearsing the lessonsshe'll teach from space.
816
00:56:00,315 --> 00:56:04,525
Good morning.
This is Christa McAuliffe
live from the Challenger.
817
00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:07,375
The lessonswill be seen nationwideon public television.
818
00:56:07,447 --> 00:56:10,405
Five, four, three...
819
00:56:10,492 --> 00:56:14,030
Two,
one and liftoff!
820
00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:19,199
Liftoff of the 25th space
shuttle mission and it
has cleared the tower.
821
00:56:19,293 --> 00:56:21,079
Challenger,
go with throttle up.
822
00:56:21,336 --> 00:56:23,077
Roger,
go with throttle up.
823
00:56:30,012 --> 00:56:31,502
God, no!
824
00:56:36,018 --> 00:56:40,057
How do we put itto children, so they willunderstand?
825
00:56:44,526 --> 00:56:47,860
And part of Fred's answer
was always to tell children
826
00:56:48,196 --> 00:56:51,188
that we, the parents,
would take care of them.
827
00:56:52,576 --> 00:56:54,988
Sometimes I found that
a difficult message myself
828
00:56:55,162 --> 00:56:56,994
as the parent
of a young child.
829
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,741
Sometimes I felt
I was lying.
830
00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:00,698
I knew that there
were things
in this world that
831
00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:02,374
I couldn't protect
my child from.
832
00:57:06,048 --> 00:57:09,211
Sometimes we need
to struggle with the tragedy
833
00:57:09,551 --> 00:57:11,713
to feel the gravity of love.
834
00:57:13,347 --> 00:57:17,432
Love is what keeps
us together and afloat.
835
00:57:23,774 --> 00:57:26,607
It's a beautiful dayin the neighborhood
836
00:57:26,777 --> 00:57:29,769
A beautiful day
for a neighbor
Would you be mine?
837
00:57:29,863 --> 00:57:34,232
You know,
it must be tough
to be Fred Rogers
838
00:57:34,409 --> 00:57:39,279
with your mission in mind
839
00:57:39,456 --> 00:57:40,992
and then to have parodies.
840
00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:45,418
L always wanted to live
in a house like yours
my friend
841
00:57:46,088 --> 00:57:49,877
Maybe when there's nobody
home I'll break in
842
00:57:50,050 --> 00:57:52,587
I married a woman who said
she was rich
843
00:57:52,761 --> 00:57:55,093
Spent all her money
Walked out on the bitch
844
00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:59,382
Won't you be my,
won't you be my,
won't you be my neighbor?
845
00:58:02,104 --> 00:58:05,597
Eddie Murphy didthat Mister Robinson's
Neighborhood
846
00:58:05,774 --> 00:58:08,141
and I remember meeting him
847
00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:10,355
and he just threw
his arms around me
848
00:58:10,445 --> 00:58:13,858
the first time he saw me
and he said, "The real
Mister Rogers."
849
00:58:14,116 --> 00:58:16,778
That's Mr. Rogers
there in the...
850
00:58:17,244 --> 00:58:19,110
On the left.
On the left, yeah.
851
00:58:19,287 --> 00:58:20,447
Now, how do you
react to that?
852
00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:22,830
Well, some of them
aren't very funny.
853
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,413
But I think that
a lot of them are done
854
00:58:26,962 --> 00:58:29,420
with real kindness
in their hearts.
855
00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:34,383
I'm moving to a new
neighborhood where
I've made a new friend.
856
00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:39,054
Can you say "hooker"?
857
00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:43,009
There were some that
were not as kind
858
00:58:43,478 --> 00:58:48,769
in nature and if they made fun
of the philosophy,
859
00:58:49,276 --> 00:58:51,859
that was the only thing
that offended him, I think.
860
00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:56,147
The battle
of the P-B-S stars.
861
00:58:57,367 --> 00:59:00,325
The crowdis literally buzzingwith excitement
862
00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:03,829
as Mr. Rogers enters
the ring... Oh, look
out there, Fred!
863
00:59:03,999 --> 00:59:08,084
Fred had such a great sense
of humor for the most part.
864
00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:12,334
There's Child,obviously in shapeand ready for this fight.
865
00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:14,168
But what about Rogers?
866
00:59:14,509 --> 00:59:18,343
Experts have cast aspersions
on his manhood itself.
867
00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,159
Fred was watchingwith the rest of us
868
00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:22,548
and everybody
would be laughing
869
00:59:22,726 --> 00:59:27,846
and I just wonder if a little
bit of Fat Freddy came back.
870
00:59:30,025 --> 00:59:32,062
Just before getting
to adolescence,
871
00:59:32,152 --> 00:59:36,066
he didn't have an easy time
making friends, I don't think.
872
00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:39,698
He got a good taste
of what bullying
was all about.
873
00:59:41,369 --> 00:59:45,363
I've often wondered
if there hadn't been
a Fat Freddy
874
00:59:45,707 --> 00:59:47,789
would there have
been a Mister Rogers?
875
00:59:47,918 --> 00:59:51,536
You can feelthe momentum actuallyswinging towards Child.
876
00:59:51,713 --> 00:59:55,081
And what just happened there?
He cracked a puppet!
877
00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,464
Oh, look at this!
878
00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:59,714
He's hitting Child
with the loveable
King Friday!
879
00:59:59,888 --> 01:00:01,674
And the French chef is down!
880
01:00:10,732 --> 01:00:12,018
A laughter record.
881
01:00:12,192 --> 01:00:14,854
Used to play one like this
when I was a young boy.
882
01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:18,900
You see, I felt that
the adults around me
were pressuring me
883
01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:20,822
to be what
I couldn't be yet.
884
01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:23,568
"Act like a grown-up,"
I'd hear them say.
885
01:00:24,204 --> 01:00:27,037
Well, I was afraid
they'd laugh at me
when I tried.
886
01:00:27,457 --> 01:00:29,368
So, I found
a record like this
887
01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:31,621
and I could make
the laughs start
888
01:00:31,795 --> 01:00:34,787
and make them stop
whenever I wanted to.
889
01:00:35,924 --> 01:00:38,632
For someone who hated
to be laughed at,
890
01:00:39,094 --> 01:00:43,258
it was a good feeling
to be in charge of
at least this laughter.
891
01:00:45,308 --> 01:00:46,719
L think that
892
01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:51,596
those who would try
893
01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:55,850
to make you feel less
than who you are,
894
01:00:56,278 --> 01:00:58,110
I think that's
the greatest evil.
895
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,818
I've always wantedto live in a neighborhoodwith you
896
01:01:01,992 --> 01:01:06,111
So, let's make
the most of this beautiful day
897
01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:10,789
Since we're together,
we might as well say
898
01:01:11,126 --> 01:01:13,618
Would you be mine,
could you be mine...
899
01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:17,329
Therewas a wonderful quotefrom Fred.
900
01:01:17,591 --> 01:01:18,797
Oh, that's hard.
901
01:01:18,884 --> 01:01:20,841
The most
important learning
902
01:01:20,927 --> 01:01:25,091
it's the ability to accept
and expect mistakes
903
01:01:25,265 --> 01:01:27,757
and deal with
the disappointments
that they bring.
904
01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:32,099
Hi, neighbor. Had a little
trouble with my zipper there.
905
01:01:32,647 --> 01:01:37,517
I'll get these shoes tied
and then try the zipper again.
906
01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:41,353
And Fred also understood
907
01:01:41,448 --> 01:01:43,359
that there's a deeper level.
908
01:01:44,826 --> 01:01:46,863
You know something,
Lady Aberlin?
909
01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:48,193
What, Daniel?
910
01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:51,496
I've been wondering
about something myself.
911
01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:53,373
Something about
Mr. Skunk?
912
01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:55,659
Something about mistakes.
913
01:01:55,754 --> 01:01:56,994
What is it?
914
01:01:57,672 --> 01:02:02,087
I've been wondering
if I was a mistake?
915
01:02:03,803 --> 01:02:05,385
If you were a mistake?
916
01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:08,673
And I will tell you
sitting in the studio
917
01:02:09,184 --> 01:02:11,050
listening to that that day
918
01:02:12,229 --> 01:02:16,894
I said to myself, "I can't
believe Fred had the courage"
919
01:02:18,235 --> 01:02:20,021
"to put that
into words."
920
01:02:20,862 --> 01:02:24,856
Sometimes I wonder
if I'm too tame.
921
01:02:25,659 --> 01:02:30,654
Sometimes I wonderif I'm a mistake
922
01:02:31,164 --> 01:02:35,374
I'm not like anyone else
I know
923
01:02:36,044 --> 01:02:40,709
When I'm asleep
or even awake
924
01:02:40,882 --> 01:02:45,877
Sometimes I get
to dreaming that
I'm just a fake
925
01:02:46,263 --> 01:02:50,257
I'm not like anyone else
926
01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:55,971
I think you are just fineas you are
927
01:02:56,064 --> 01:02:57,064
You do?
928
01:02:57,107 --> 01:03:01,351
I really must tell you
I do...
929
01:03:01,528 --> 01:03:05,146
Lady Aberlin
is saying to Daniel
930
01:03:05,824 --> 01:03:08,191
what Fred himself
wanted to say,
931
01:03:08,576 --> 01:03:11,659
not only to his childhood self
but to all children.
932
01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:16,206
You're not a fake
You're no mistake
933
01:03:16,543 --> 01:03:18,534
You are my friend
934
01:03:18,712 --> 01:03:21,374
And then you think,
"Okay, then Daniel's
gonna say,
935
01:03:21,548 --> 01:03:23,108
"'Oh, thank you.
That helped me a lot."'
936
01:03:23,425 --> 01:03:27,919
I wonder if I'm a mistake
I think you are just
fine as you are
937
01:03:28,096 --> 01:03:31,589
I'm not like anyone else
I really must tell you...
938
01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:36,636
And I thoughtto myself, "Thank you, Fred,for reminding us that"
939
01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:40,932
"it's not so easy
to quiet a doubt."
940
01:03:41,276 --> 01:03:46,646
But make it a duet so that
it's not just your fears,
941
01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,860
but you'll
hear my support.
942
01:03:49,117 --> 01:03:51,529
Isn't it true that
the strong never break?
943
01:03:51,619 --> 01:03:53,610
When you're sleep
When you're wake
944
01:03:53,747 --> 01:03:57,456
I'm not like anyone
else I know
You're not a fake
945
01:03:57,625 --> 01:04:02,620
You're no mistake
You're my friend
I'm not like anyone else
946
01:04:05,133 --> 01:04:09,297
I think you are
just fine
947
01:04:09,471 --> 01:04:11,838
exactly the way
you are.
948
01:04:12,015 --> 01:04:13,301
The way I look?
949
01:04:13,391 --> 01:04:14,631
Yes.
950
01:04:14,809 --> 01:04:16,140
The way I talk?
951
01:04:16,227 --> 01:04:17,638
Well, yes.
952
01:04:17,812 --> 01:04:19,678
The way I love?
953
01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:21,355
Especially that.
954
01:04:27,405 --> 01:04:30,943
Every valley
955
01:04:32,952 --> 01:04:35,694
Every valley
956
01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:38,113
Shall be exalted
957
01:04:38,291 --> 01:04:40,211
There were black kidswatching the show.
958
01:04:40,502 --> 01:04:44,496
They needed a black figure
who would not let them down.
959
01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:48,506
So, if I came out as gay
and there was some kind
of scandal,
960
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:51,252
that would not
serve the race.
961
01:04:51,846 --> 01:04:53,803
I carried that
all the time.
962
01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:59,302
The feeling you know
you're alive!
963
01:05:02,649 --> 01:05:04,515
Really nice,
Francois!
964
01:05:05,193 --> 01:05:07,480
I went to a gay bar downtown
called the Play Pen.
965
01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:09,311
Oh, God, did I have
a lot of fun!
966
01:05:09,489 --> 01:05:12,698
But somebody told
the Mister Rogers'Neighborhood people
967
01:05:12,784 --> 01:05:15,902
about it, and he asked
me, "Were you downtown
at that bar?"
968
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:19,242
And I said, "Yes."
He said, "You can't
go back there anymore."
969
01:05:20,375 --> 01:05:24,334
I wanted to show this film
to you. Okay, on Picture,
Picture.
970
01:05:26,548 --> 01:05:28,755
Here's Mrs. Clemmons at home.
971
01:05:29,217 --> 01:05:32,710
In '68 I got married.
I'm not stupid.
972
01:05:33,221 --> 01:05:35,758
There's the portrait
of the King and Queen.
973
01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:41,885
If I came out publicly,
he said, "You cannot be
on the show anymore."
974
01:05:42,730 --> 01:05:45,643
The sponsors,
Johnson and Johnson,
and Sears,
975
01:05:46,109 --> 01:05:49,067
they are not going
to support an openly gay man.
976
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:54,572
Fred was not prepared
to lose that market.
977
01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:58,360
My marriage failed miserably.
978
01:05:59,581 --> 01:06:02,073
And I discovered
you can't pray it away.
979
01:06:04,294 --> 01:06:06,581
Eventually,
Fred came around to it.
980
01:06:07,797 --> 01:06:12,462
I think Francois just came
a little too soon maybe,
you know?
981
01:06:15,054 --> 01:06:17,546
Oh, yes. Oh, my yes.
Heavens.
982
01:06:21,561 --> 01:06:23,914
You gotta forgive me
for this, but I have
to ask you something
983
01:06:23,938 --> 01:06:27,602
that may sound impertinent
and I don't mean for it to,
for a second.
984
01:06:29,944 --> 01:06:31,605
Are you square?
985
01:06:31,946 --> 01:06:34,028
I mean, are you
a straight guy?
I mean, you're just...
986
01:06:34,365 --> 01:06:35,901
Are you really
the way you are?
987
01:06:36,034 --> 01:06:38,196
First of all,
no, he's not gay.
988
01:06:38,453 --> 01:06:40,785
I tell everyone who asks me,
"No, he's not gay."
989
01:06:40,872 --> 01:06:44,456
But the other part is
I spent enough time with him
990
01:06:44,792 --> 01:06:48,456
that if he had... If there
was a gay vibe, I would've
picked it up.
991
01:06:49,797 --> 01:06:52,129
Nope. Not as far
as I know.
992
01:06:53,092 --> 01:06:58,462
I think that anybody
who looked at Fred
looked at somebody
993
01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:02,633
that they couldn't compare
with anybody else.
994
01:07:02,727 --> 01:07:06,721
There's something
inside you
that hasn't been lost.
995
01:07:06,981 --> 01:07:08,312
Thank you, Daniel.
996
01:07:08,483 --> 01:07:10,190
Your childhood.
Mmm-hmm.
997
01:07:10,610 --> 01:07:11,691
Okay.
998
01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:12,778
I like him.
999
01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:14,151
I know.
1000
01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:15,447
Bye-bye.
1001
01:07:15,532 --> 01:07:18,445
That was oneof the thingsthat I responded to.
1002
01:07:20,161 --> 01:07:22,698
He's terrific. Wow.
1003
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:26,327
I definitely
saw another way
of being a man.
1004
01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:30,832
I'm sure you've heard
all these rumors about
1005
01:07:31,714 --> 01:07:34,752
Fred being a Navy SEAL
and killing people.
1006
01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:39,131
Was Fred a Navy SEAL?
Did Fred have tattoos?
1007
01:07:39,556 --> 01:07:42,423
And that, you know,
he wore the sweater
1008
01:07:42,517 --> 01:07:44,383
to cover the tattoos.
1009
01:07:45,353 --> 01:07:48,141
Fred
was born a rich kid.
1010
01:07:49,107 --> 01:07:51,690
He didn't know
how to use a screwdriver,
1011
01:07:52,110 --> 01:07:53,692
let alone kill
a bunch of people.
1012
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:59,694
That to me is justlike a classic exampleof people
1013
01:07:59,784 --> 01:08:03,402
looking at Fred
in all his eccentricity
and singularity
1014
01:08:03,746 --> 01:08:06,864
and trying to basically say,
"Well, that can't be."
1015
01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:08,661
"He has to be this way."
1016
01:08:10,378 --> 01:08:14,963
The universal question
about Fred is, was he
that way in real life?
1017
01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:16,798
And the answer is, yes.
1018
01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:21,086
Francois Clemmons,
hi, welcome.
1019
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:22,341
Thank you.
How you doin'?
1020
01:08:22,432 --> 01:08:24,469
I'm fine. How
are you today?
Fine.
1021
01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,015
My feet were tired,
so I thought
1022
01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:28,434
I'd just soak them
for a while in
this water.
1023
01:08:28,771 --> 01:08:30,011
Does it make
them feel better?
1024
01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:31,679
It does.
Would you like to try?
1025
01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:32,774
Sure!
1026
01:08:32,859 --> 01:08:34,816
On the show
he would say,
1027
01:08:34,902 --> 01:08:37,234
"I love you just
the way you are."
1028
01:08:37,947 --> 01:08:41,906
One day I said,
"Fred! Were you
talking to me?"
1029
01:08:42,535 --> 01:08:44,947
And he looked at me
and he said, "Yes",
1030
01:08:45,246 --> 01:08:48,113
"I've been talking
to you for two years"
1031
01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:50,783
"and you finally
heard me today."
1032
01:08:51,461 --> 01:08:55,250
And I just collapsed
into his arms. I was...
I started crying. I...
1033
01:08:56,215 --> 01:08:58,422
That's when I knew
that I loved him.
1034
01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:02,924
There are many ways to say"I love you"
1035
01:09:03,765 --> 01:09:08,100
There are many ways to say
"I care about you"
1036
01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:10,761
No man had ever told methat he loved me like that.
1037
01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:13,730
I needed to hear it all
my life. My dad never
told me.
1038
01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:15,602
My step-father never told me.
1039
01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:20,692
So, from then on, he became
my surrogate father.
1040
01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:25,366
I'm so proud
of you, Francois.
1041
01:09:25,453 --> 01:09:26,614
Oh, thank you, Fred.
1042
01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:28,369
May I help
you here?
1043
01:09:28,456 --> 01:09:29,742
Thank you.
1044
01:09:30,625 --> 01:09:32,582
The people
who have had
1045
01:09:32,710 --> 01:09:36,795
a lot of struggle
in their lives,
1046
01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:39,456
those are the people
who really impress me.
1047
01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:48,765
There was an interview
with a little boy
by the name of Jeff Erlanger.
1048
01:09:49,769 --> 01:09:53,558
We wrote because
Jeff was going
to have a spinal fusion
1049
01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:56,557
and be in a...
What they call a halo...
1050
01:09:56,651 --> 01:09:57,732
Cast. A halo cast.
1051
01:09:57,819 --> 01:10:01,528
Metal rim and then cast
on his shoulders
and bolted all together...
1052
01:10:01,656 --> 01:10:03,238
All the way
down his trunk.
Yeah.
1053
01:10:03,658 --> 01:10:05,820
He may not
have survived the surgery.
1054
01:10:05,993 --> 01:10:09,156
And, so, we said, you know,
"What would you like to do?"
1055
01:10:09,664 --> 01:10:12,326
"This is going to
be a really
big task for you and, so,"
1056
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:15,458
"we want to kick it off
with something that would
be really special."
1057
01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:17,161
Mr. Rogers?
1058
01:10:17,255 --> 01:10:18,916
Hey, Jeff.
1059
01:10:19,966 --> 01:10:21,832
I'm glad to see you.
Hi.
1060
01:10:22,009 --> 01:10:24,341
Thank you very much
for coming by.
1061
01:10:24,846 --> 01:10:26,883
Can you tell my friends
1062
01:10:27,348 --> 01:10:30,056
what it is that made you
need this wheelchair?
1063
01:10:30,518 --> 01:10:31,518
Sure.
1064
01:10:31,686 --> 01:10:36,647
Well, when I was about
seven months old
1065
01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:42,186
I had a tumor
1066
01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:48,029
and it broke the nerves
to tell my hands and legs
what to do.
1067
01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:49,363
I see.
1068
01:10:50,538 --> 01:10:55,999
And I got a wheelchair
when I was four years old.
1069
01:10:56,169 --> 01:10:59,662
That was your first one.
When you were four.
Mmm-hmm. Uh-huh.
1070
01:10:59,922 --> 01:11:03,040
He told Jeff before
they started that
they would have a chat
1071
01:11:03,217 --> 01:11:04,378
and then sing
a song together.
1072
01:11:04,469 --> 01:11:06,836
I think he said,
"We might sing
a song." I remember.
1073
01:11:07,013 --> 01:11:08,469
'Cause, I was sort
of surprised,
1074
01:11:08,556 --> 01:11:10,200
"What? He's going to start
singing a song?"
1075
01:11:10,224 --> 01:11:13,387
Well, you know,
this is totally...
Not even "What song?"
1076
01:11:13,895 --> 01:11:17,058
It's you I like
1077
01:11:17,732 --> 01:11:20,565
It's not the things
you wear
1078
01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:24,186
It's not the way you do
your hair
1079
01:11:24,572 --> 01:11:27,439
But it's you I like
1080
01:11:28,034 --> 01:11:30,867
The way you are right now
1081
01:11:31,287 --> 01:11:34,871
The way down deepinside you
1082
01:11:35,249 --> 01:11:38,537
Not the things
that hide you
1083
01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:41,078
Not your fancy chair!
Chair!
1084
01:11:41,756 --> 01:11:44,748
That's just beside you
1085
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:49,878
But it's you I like
1086
01:11:50,765 --> 01:11:53,632
Every part of you
1087
01:11:54,227 --> 01:11:57,595
Your skin
Your eyes
1088
01:11:57,772 --> 01:11:59,763
Your feelings
1089
01:11:59,982 --> 01:12:03,771
Whether old or new
1090
01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:07,779
I hope that you'll remember
1091
01:12:08,491 --> 01:12:12,985
Even when you're
feeling blue
1092
01:12:13,746 --> 01:12:16,113
That it's you I like
1093
01:12:16,457 --> 01:12:20,826
It's you, yourself
It's you
1094
01:12:22,922 --> 01:12:25,004
It's you
1095
01:12:25,633 --> 01:12:29,171
I like
1096
01:12:29,846 --> 01:12:31,553
And it is you
I like, Jeff.
1097
01:12:31,639 --> 01:12:32,639
Thanks.
1098
01:12:32,682 --> 01:12:35,674
And there must be times
when you do feel blue.
1099
01:12:35,768 --> 01:12:36,849
Uh-huh.
1100
01:12:37,019 --> 01:12:38,726
I'm not feeling
blue right now though.
1101
01:12:38,813 --> 01:12:39,813
Me neither!
1102
01:12:41,482 --> 01:12:43,393
I'm so glad that
you came today.
1103
01:12:43,484 --> 01:12:44,484
Thanks.
1104
01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:47,482
I remember asking one
of the staff people
that was there,
1105
01:12:47,655 --> 01:12:50,113
"Well, you know,
what do you think?
Did it go okay?"
1106
01:12:50,283 --> 01:12:51,819
"Oh, this is good!
This is good."
1107
01:12:53,494 --> 01:12:55,986
He had his surgery,
he survived.
1108
01:12:56,539 --> 01:13:00,123
Certainly, Mr. Rogers had
an impact on who Jeff became.
1109
01:13:01,168 --> 01:13:03,000
His sense of self.
1110
01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:07,293
You obviously
have a power now.
1111
01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:11,213
I mean, that you wouldn't have
had when you first
started the show.
1112
01:13:15,141 --> 01:13:19,135
Well, it might sound very
ingenuous, but I don't
feel that.
1113
01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:32,071
L would hope that anybody
who sets himself
or herself out
1114
01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:36,235
to produce mass programming
for children,
1115
01:13:38,331 --> 01:13:42,370
could have the kind of respect
of childhood that I have.
1116
01:13:46,839 --> 01:13:50,878
Because it's not all
clowns and balloons.
1117
01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:02,719
What do you mean,
you don't agree with me?
1118
01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:08,938
Some television programs
are loud and scary
1119
01:14:09,362 --> 01:14:12,229
with people shooting
and hitting other people.
1120
01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:15,323
You know, you can do
something about that.
1121
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:20,245
When you see scary television,
you can turn it off.
1122
01:14:22,708 --> 01:14:26,997
We need to help our children
become more and more aware
1123
01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:30,922
that what is essential in life
1124
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:34,463
is invisible to the eye.
1125
01:14:35,096 --> 01:14:36,427
Thank you.
1126
01:14:37,556 --> 01:14:38,887
Thank you very much.
1127
01:14:39,767 --> 01:14:41,257
As he got older
1128
01:14:41,769 --> 01:14:45,888
it was more important
for him to be strong
in his beliefs.
1129
01:14:46,065 --> 01:14:49,228
Maybe that was how
he was getting his anger out.
1130
01:14:49,402 --> 01:14:52,144
His anger that people
didn't take him seriously.
1131
01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:55,780
They didn't get him.
They didn't get
the depth of the show.
1132
01:15:00,121 --> 01:15:02,283
He startedout being Daniel,
1133
01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:05,786
soft and quiet and shy,
1134
01:15:07,336 --> 01:15:09,498
developed into King Friday.
1135
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,841
That is not correct.
Now do it again
and do it perfectly.
1136
01:15:15,344 --> 01:15:18,462
Wasn't King Fridaya wonderful insight into hischaracter?
1137
01:15:18,639 --> 01:15:21,097
His determination
and his ambitions.
1138
01:15:21,559 --> 01:15:25,974
As a king, I must see that
the world runs smoothly.
1139
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:28,642
Farewell to you both!
1140
01:15:28,816 --> 01:15:33,060
That gruffnesswas his way of gettingwhat he wanted across.
1141
01:15:34,447 --> 01:15:36,688
Fred Rogers wanted something
very badly,
1142
01:15:36,824 --> 01:15:40,988
and would do what he felt was
necessary in order to get it.
1143
01:15:46,333 --> 01:15:48,370
Let's take the gauntlet
1144
01:15:49,378 --> 01:15:51,995
and make goodness attractive
1145
01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,915
in this so-called next
millennium.
1146
01:15:56,635 --> 01:15:58,421
That's the real...
1147
01:16:00,848 --> 01:16:03,510
That's the real job
that we have.
1148
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:07,098
I'm not talking about
Pollyanna-ish kind of stuff.
1149
01:16:07,188 --> 01:16:08,553
I'm talking about
1150
01:16:08,731 --> 01:16:12,520
down-to-Earth
actual goodness.
1151
01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:15,856
People caring
for each other
1152
01:16:16,822 --> 01:16:18,904
in a myriad of ways,
1153
01:16:19,366 --> 01:16:22,074
rather than people
knocking each other
off all the time.
1154
01:16:22,411 --> 01:16:25,494
I mean, I don't find
that funny at all.
1155
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,370
What changes the world?
1156
01:16:30,044 --> 01:16:34,038
The only thing that
ever really changes
the world
1157
01:16:34,882 --> 01:16:37,715
is when somebody gets the idea
1158
01:16:38,385 --> 01:16:41,548
that love can abound
1159
01:16:42,098 --> 01:16:43,930
and can be shared.
1160
01:16:47,353 --> 01:16:49,060
You're doing a great job.
1161
01:16:56,737 --> 01:16:59,946
Dad never stood upand said, "Look at whatI've done."
1162
01:17:00,116 --> 01:17:02,198
"Look at this. isn't this
wonderful?"
1163
01:17:02,576 --> 01:17:06,865
The only time I ever
saw him come even close
to anything like that
1164
01:17:07,039 --> 01:17:09,576
was when he did the interview
with Koko the gorilla.
1165
01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,542
Right.
That's a happy sound.
1166
01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:17,632
Is it?
1167
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,086
That's a purr.
1168
01:17:19,176 --> 01:17:20,792
Like that?
1169
01:17:21,262 --> 01:17:23,424
Can you teach me
how to do that?
1170
01:17:26,225 --> 01:17:27,807
Isn't that a nice
way to welcome
1171
01:17:27,893 --> 01:17:30,009
someone and say
that you're happy?
1172
01:17:32,106 --> 01:17:36,942
It was a weird
kind of a thing,
1173
01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:41,563
but you realize there
was something kind of
magical going on there.
1174
01:17:42,074 --> 01:17:44,281
What? Love?
1175
01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:50,872
Well, that was
very nice.
1176
01:17:50,958 --> 01:17:51,958
Thank you, Koko.
1177
01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:07,463
There's so much
to think about, isn't there?
1178
01:18:11,312 --> 01:18:13,665
Let me ask you aboutwhat we've been discussingfor the last three hours.
1179
01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:16,932
Mr. Rogers
and the narcissistic society
that he gave birth to
1180
01:18:17,109 --> 01:18:19,396
because he told every kid
that they were important.
1181
01:18:19,486 --> 01:18:22,695
Do you believe his
philosophy destroyed
a generation?
1182
01:18:22,781 --> 01:18:24,818
This evil, evil man.
1183
01:18:25,284 --> 01:18:26,900
The criticism
goes like this...
1184
01:18:27,661 --> 01:18:29,618
"You told everyone
they're special."
1185
01:18:29,997 --> 01:18:32,989
"They don't have
to do anything
to earn that special."
1186
01:18:33,334 --> 01:18:34,995
"That's what's wrong
with our country."
1187
01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,126
"That's what's wrong
with children today."
1188
01:18:37,213 --> 01:18:40,453
He didn't say, "If youwasn't to be special, you'regonna have to work hard."
1189
01:18:40,549 --> 01:18:44,008
And now all these kids
are growing up,
and they're realizing,
1190
01:18:44,094 --> 01:18:47,007
"Hey, wait a minute,
Mr. Rogers lied to me.
I'm not special."
1191
01:18:47,848 --> 01:18:51,091
I'm sure by then
Fred had heard the criticisms,
1192
01:18:51,185 --> 01:18:54,223
but he's not talking
about entitlement.
1193
01:18:55,481 --> 01:18:56,812
And if you don't believe
1194
01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,728
that everyone
has inherent value,
1195
01:19:00,861 --> 01:19:02,852
you might as well
go against
1196
01:19:03,364 --> 01:19:05,355
the fundamental
notion of Christianity.
1197
01:19:06,367 --> 01:19:10,952
That you are the beloved son
or daughter of God.
1198
01:19:11,705 --> 01:19:13,616
Hi, Mr. Rogers,
it's a pleasure to meet you.
1199
01:19:13,707 --> 01:19:15,197
Hi. I'm glad
to meet you.
Thank you.
1200
01:19:15,376 --> 01:19:17,617
I watched your show
as a youngster.
1201
01:19:17,711 --> 01:19:19,293
I wasn't allowed
to go to preschool,
1202
01:19:19,463 --> 01:19:23,707
'cause I had a disability,
and my mom made me watch
your show every day.
1203
01:19:23,884 --> 01:19:25,750
Thank you...
Bless your heart
and here you are.
1204
01:19:25,844 --> 01:19:27,426
For my preschool
education.
1205
01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:30,801
And thank you
for inspiring
me today.
1206
01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:35,886
At the very endof Fred's very lastcommencement speech
1207
01:19:36,063 --> 01:19:39,977
he said what he meant
when he say, "You're special."
1208
01:19:40,567 --> 01:19:43,559
And what that ultimately
means, of course,
1209
01:19:44,405 --> 01:19:50,242
is that you don't ever have
to do anything sensational
1210
01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:52,994
for people to love you.
1211
01:19:54,832 --> 01:19:57,824
It is really a matter
of believing that
1212
01:19:58,252 --> 01:20:01,620
you're endowed
by your creator with good.
1213
01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:07,587
You know there are many
different ways of saying,
"I love you."
1214
01:20:07,761 --> 01:20:10,253
In fact, I like
to think about times
1215
01:20:10,431 --> 01:20:13,423
when I've seen people
showing their love. Okay.
1216
01:20:15,853 --> 01:20:17,719
Show 1765.
1217
01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:20,429
This is the last scene
of the last show
1218
01:20:20,607 --> 01:20:23,599
of the last day,
the last taping day
1219
01:20:23,944 --> 01:20:26,527
of the interior
of Mister Rogers'Neighborhood.
1220
01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:31,324
It's such a good feelingto know you're alive
1221
01:20:31,452 --> 01:20:35,616
It's such a happy feeling
You're growing inside
1222
01:20:35,789 --> 01:20:39,532
And when you wake up ready
to say
1223
01:20:39,793 --> 01:20:43,411
I think I'll make a snappy
new day
1224
01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,797
It's such a good feeling
1225
01:20:46,967 --> 01:20:49,584
A very good feeling,
the...
1226
01:20:50,888 --> 01:20:52,970
This place has
been condemned.
1227
01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:55,702
Oh, it's been condemned.
Oh, well.
You got two days to move out.
1228
01:20:55,726 --> 01:20:58,138
Okay, thanks. See ya.
1229
01:21:00,814 --> 01:21:03,476
That was wonderful!
1230
01:21:03,984 --> 01:21:06,817
Years ago, it wasn't
so weird that
1231
01:21:07,821 --> 01:21:09,983
somebody as nice
as Fred was around.
1232
01:21:10,741 --> 01:21:14,325
Now there isn't room
for a nice person on TV.
1233
01:21:14,703 --> 01:21:17,570
So, we must have
regular reunions.
1234
01:21:17,998 --> 01:21:20,490
Yeah. How about Tuesday?
1235
01:21:22,503 --> 01:21:25,541
Yeah, I'll have forgotten
about everyone by Monday.
1236
01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:28,251
So, Tuesday will
bring it all back.
1237
01:21:57,746 --> 01:22:00,534
We did it! Can you believe it?
We did it!
1238
01:22:00,707 --> 01:22:02,118
Mercy!
1239
01:22:04,211 --> 01:22:06,828
When he did
stop making the programs,
1240
01:22:07,214 --> 01:22:09,876
I felt that he was depressed.
1241
01:22:11,885 --> 01:22:13,671
And I mentioned it to him
1242
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:20,766
and he said, "Well,
I miss my playmates."
1243
01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:32,904
- Okay. Okay, slate out.
- That's fine.
1244
01:22:34,324 --> 01:22:39,160
We decidedto have Fred back to dosome promos about 9-11.
1245
01:22:42,124 --> 01:22:45,082
He was very troubled
and I said, "Fred,
what's wrong?"
1246
01:22:45,252 --> 01:22:47,914
And he said,
"I just don't know"
1247
01:22:48,755 --> 01:22:50,371
"what good these
are going to do."
1248
01:22:51,175 --> 01:22:53,462
And I just remembered saying,
1249
01:22:54,094 --> 01:22:56,756
"Fred! How can you say that?"
1250
01:23:02,019 --> 01:23:05,808
When the horror of 9-11
really hit him,
1251
01:23:06,940 --> 01:23:09,602
I think it was a real
eye-opener.
1252
01:23:10,527 --> 01:23:14,771
He was realizing
that it was just so big.
1253
01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:21,445
It's always going to
be an ongoing struggle
to overcome evil.
1254
01:23:22,956 --> 01:23:26,244
I remember thinking,
"Okay, this is"
1255
01:23:27,294 --> 01:23:30,286
"the time that you need
to pump him up because"
1256
01:23:30,464 --> 01:23:34,298
"he doesn't understand
this is really important."
1257
01:23:34,468 --> 01:23:35,833
People listen to you.
1258
01:23:37,304 --> 01:23:38,465
Okay.
1259
01:23:43,185 --> 01:23:46,098
No matter what our
particular job,
1260
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,142
especially in our
world today,
1261
01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:54,773
we all are called
to be tikun olam,
1262
01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:58,814
"repairers of creation."
1263
01:24:00,202 --> 01:24:04,161
Thank you for whatever you do,
wherever you are,
1264
01:24:04,331 --> 01:24:07,995
to bring joy
and light and hope
1265
01:24:08,168 --> 01:24:12,036
and faith
and pardon and love
1266
01:24:12,589 --> 01:24:15,502
to your neighbor
and to yourself.
1267
01:24:35,529 --> 01:24:38,112
Fred didn't like going
to the doctor's office.
1268
01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:42,866
He had stomach problems
for a long time. I mean,
for several years.
1269
01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:46,203
Oh, what's that
right down there?
1270
01:24:49,251 --> 01:24:52,039
Take a look at the aquarium.
Do you see a dead fish?
1271
01:24:53,547 --> 01:24:56,710
A dead fish would be
one that isn't swimming
1272
01:24:57,050 --> 01:24:59,166
or breathing
or anything at all.
1273
01:24:59,261 --> 01:25:00,968
Look down there
and see, will you?
1274
01:25:01,138 --> 01:25:05,223
See if you see anything.
Oh, yes, right there,
isn't it?
1275
01:25:06,059 --> 01:25:07,539
He told me
that he was sick.
1276
01:25:08,061 --> 01:25:10,803
I played a Bach Sarabande
for him over the phone.
1277
01:25:11,273 --> 01:25:14,811
It's like sending a little
loving message.
1278
01:25:23,410 --> 01:25:25,401
When he was very ill
1279
01:25:25,912 --> 01:25:29,075
he talked a lot
about dying well,
1280
01:25:30,584 --> 01:25:34,919
to die with the hopes...
1281
01:25:35,255 --> 01:25:37,087
With the hopes intact.
1282
01:25:42,262 --> 01:25:45,550
Before he became
comatose he said,
1283
01:25:46,099 --> 01:25:47,965
"Do you think I'm a sheep?"
1284
01:25:48,935 --> 01:25:51,677
And we knew what
he was talking about because
1285
01:25:51,938 --> 01:25:55,681
he had been reading
in the Bible
about the Last Days,
1286
01:25:55,776 --> 01:25:57,187
with the Judgment.
1287
01:25:59,780 --> 01:26:02,522
It will be decided at the end
1288
01:26:02,658 --> 01:26:05,616
who is a sheep
and who is a goat.
1289
01:26:07,704 --> 01:26:10,867
And I think the need
was always there
1290
01:26:10,957 --> 01:26:15,372
for being loved,
for being capable
of being loved.
1291
01:26:17,964 --> 01:26:20,171
There was a little silence
and then I said,
1292
01:26:20,258 --> 01:26:24,343
"Fred, if ever
there was a sheep you're one."
1293
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:46,197
Well, I suppose
it's an invitation,
1294
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,696
"Won't you be my neighbor?"
1295
01:26:49,663 --> 01:26:53,327
It's an invitation for
1296
01:26:54,501 --> 01:26:57,209
somebody to be close to you.
1297
01:26:57,379 --> 01:27:01,839
You know, I think everybody
longs to be loved
1298
01:27:02,843 --> 01:27:07,337
and longs to know
that he or she is lovable.
1299
01:27:10,684 --> 01:27:14,097
And consequently,
the greatest thing
that we can do
1300
01:27:14,896 --> 01:27:17,433
is to help somebody know
1301
01:27:18,567 --> 01:27:22,606
that they're loved
and capable of loving.
1302
01:27:41,715 --> 01:27:44,798
Across the streetfrom Fred's funeral,there's this hubbub
1303
01:27:44,968 --> 01:27:49,383
and there's all these people
holding up signs saying,
"God hates fags."
1304
01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:53,883
And I went and talked to them
because Fred would have it no
other way.
1305
01:27:55,228 --> 01:27:58,311
"L said," Are you condemning
Fred? Are you saying that
he was gay?
1306
01:27:58,398 --> 01:27:59,398
"What's happening?"
1307
01:28:00,066 --> 01:28:03,684
And they were saying that,
"No, no, he just...
He tolerated gays."
1308
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:08,564
And so, they were intolerant
of the tolerance.
1309
01:28:08,992 --> 01:28:13,281
And the thing that
struck me that day
more than anything else
1310
01:28:13,455 --> 01:28:15,446
was the children
that were there.
1311
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:20,751
Children that had been
drafted into doing this
work into standing there
1312
01:28:20,921 --> 01:28:23,913
with their parents
and holding up signs
and screaming.
1313
01:28:24,299 --> 01:28:29,089
And those kids
looked so unhappy.
1314
01:28:29,346 --> 01:28:32,338
Those kids looked
so exhausted.
1315
01:28:32,599 --> 01:28:36,467
Those kids looked
so ill-treated.
It was just heart-breaking.
1316
01:28:36,686 --> 01:28:39,599
And I knew that
if Fred had seen that,
1317
01:28:39,773 --> 01:28:41,764
that's where his heart
would have gone.
1318
01:28:59,543 --> 01:29:03,002
I can't think how
he would feel about the things
1319
01:29:03,171 --> 01:29:04,957
that have come out
1320
01:29:05,632 --> 01:29:08,420
that seem to set us
back so far.
1321
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:11,656
And I wonder
if he wouldn't
1322
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,469
simply put down his
tiger and just stay home,
1323
01:29:16,309 --> 01:29:18,016
forget about even trying.
1324
01:29:19,062 --> 01:29:21,474
He's not a person who
would've given up,
1325
01:29:21,815 --> 01:29:23,431
but this is daunting.
1326
01:29:25,652 --> 01:29:28,519
I think he would be
trying to mend...
1327
01:29:29,906 --> 01:29:35,492
Mend the split.
1328
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,156
He would be trying
to find some way
1329
01:29:43,044 --> 01:29:45,035
to find something positive.
1330
01:29:46,548 --> 01:29:50,166
When I was a boyand I would hearabout something scary,
1331
01:29:50,343 --> 01:29:54,177
"my mother would tell us,
"Always look for the people
who are helping.
1332
01:29:54,764 --> 01:29:58,177
"You'll always find somebody
who's trying to help."
1333
01:29:59,269 --> 01:30:02,512
I think there are a lot
of people out there like
Fred Rogers.
1334
01:30:03,064 --> 01:30:05,522
A lot more than we
really want to believe.
1335
01:30:07,903 --> 01:30:10,110
In response
to the question,
1336
01:30:10,405 --> 01:30:12,692
"What would Fred Rogers do?"
1337
01:30:13,283 --> 01:30:16,241
It's not a question
that you can answer.
1338
01:30:17,871 --> 01:30:21,990
The most important
question is, "What
are you going to do?"
1339
01:30:22,542 --> 01:30:25,409
From the time
you were very little,
1340
01:30:25,962 --> 01:30:30,331
you've had people who have
smiled you into smiling.
1341
01:30:30,884 --> 01:30:34,752
People who have
talked you into talking.
1342
01:30:35,555 --> 01:30:38,047
Sung you into singing.
1343
01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:41,471
Loved you into loving.
1344
01:30:41,937 --> 01:30:44,645
When he was givingspeeches, he would say,
1345
01:30:44,773 --> 01:30:49,188
"Now, think about somebody
who's helped you along the way"
1346
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:53,062
"for one minute.
I'm going to time you."
1347
01:30:55,075 --> 01:30:57,157
Let's just
take some time
1348
01:30:57,494 --> 01:31:00,612
to think of those extra
special people.
1349
01:31:04,584 --> 01:31:05,584
Mmm.
1350
01:31:06,127 --> 01:31:08,368
Some of them
may be right here.
1351
01:31:09,631 --> 01:31:11,747
Some may be far away.
1352
01:31:12,926 --> 01:31:15,293
Some may even be in heaven.
1353
01:31:16,596 --> 01:31:20,590
No matter where they are,
deep down you know
1354
01:31:20,767 --> 01:31:23,759
they've always wanted
what was best for you.
1355
01:31:24,938 --> 01:31:28,272
They've always
cared about you beyond measure
1356
01:31:29,275 --> 01:31:32,358
and have encouraged you
to be true
1357
01:31:32,570 --> 01:31:34,652
to the best within you.
1358
01:31:49,629 --> 01:31:50,710
My mother.
1359
01:31:51,297 --> 01:31:55,632
How I got to this point,
because it was my
grandfather's doing.
1360
01:31:55,885 --> 01:32:00,004
There was this woman
named Viola who used
to take care of me
1361
01:32:00,098 --> 01:32:02,135
when I was little.
She was our babysitter.
1362
01:32:03,226 --> 01:32:04,967
I thought about Fred.
1363
01:32:06,312 --> 01:32:07,312
How about you?
1364
01:32:25,665 --> 01:32:26,905
Thank you.
1365
01:32:32,672 --> 01:32:37,667
It's such a good feelingto know you're alive
1366
01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:42,718
It's such a happy feeling
you're growing inside
1367
01:32:42,891 --> 01:32:46,384
And when you wake up
ready to say
1368
01:32:46,728 --> 01:32:50,517
"I think I'll make a snappy
new day"
1369
01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:55,400
It's such a good feeling
A very good feeling
1370
01:32:55,570 --> 01:32:59,234
The feeling you know that
we're friends
1371
01:32:59,407 --> 01:33:02,399
Please welcome,
Jeffrey Erlanger.
1372
01:33:09,751 --> 01:33:13,210
I am so glad to see you.
Thank you. You too.
1373
01:33:13,379 --> 01:33:16,917
Oh! What a surprise!
1374
01:33:42,408 --> 01:33:45,571
You help to make each day
a special day
1375
01:33:45,662 --> 01:33:48,654
by just you're being yourself.
1376
01:33:48,748 --> 01:33:53,493
There is nobody else
in the whole world
who's exactly like you.
1377
01:33:53,586 --> 01:33:58,205
And people can like you
exactly as you are.
1378
01:33:58,299 --> 01:34:00,461
You are special.
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