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there's this group called Pink Floyd who
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got what the only time I saw Syd Barrett
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was when he popped into the Abbey Road
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session swimmers are doing atom heart
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mother and he kind of spun round a
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couple of times in slow motion and then
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went out again and that was very as all
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I ever thought of him he'd gone he was
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still looking the same but he was
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somewhere else we carried on to musical
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careers at the same time we took
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interstellar overdrive' outside London
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people hated it the hand thing you know
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my hands felt like two balloons is
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that's from being delirious as a child
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but this tell us this like everything
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receding there is no pain you I received
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happen to me and so and it came back
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slowly as I sat and played the piano but
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I think good cut you know is this is a
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fine line I'm walking here
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one bit of riff from another bit of it's
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there's hundreds of different ways you
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can do something some have a little bit
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of magic to them but the ones that do
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have that bit of magic to them it's
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obvious to people arrest even just that
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piece of music as an emotional Porter
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that's what we're struggling to find all
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the time
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Pink Floyd grew from friendships forged
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in the 1960s in the university town of
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Cambridge Britain was then in the group
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of psychedelia and the hippie scene as
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well popular music was undergoing a huge
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transformation and the young Syd Barrett
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was wide open to these influences first
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time I met Syd was at a Saturday morning
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art class in Cambridge I was 9 or 10 and
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he was 8 or 9 we became close you know
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when we were teenagers talking about
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smoking dope but not doing it you know
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in those days I would go long after to
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SIDS after school and he'd be in there
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painting away and so they made such play
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and chat and do whatever he was a great
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rhythm player a terrific sense of time
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and you know and then he sort of took
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that and you know took it in directions
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that no one could have imagined really
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I said was the charmer when I first met
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him he was the charismatic handsome
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jolly slightly intimidating - what the
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one that everyone focused on most people
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including myself had certain jealousies
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of what a bright light appeared to him
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on the scene he was physically beautiful
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witty funny the way he talked the way he
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walked he was much loved by pretty much
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everyone around him I don't actually
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remember when I met Syd I don't remember
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where I met Syd just suddenly he was
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part of my life
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the whole Pink Floyd suddenly became
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part of my life
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the name Pink Floyd first began to
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appear in January 1965 when the group
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was then known as the Pink Floyd blues
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band the band featured a five piece
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liner formed from a group of friends
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from Cambridge in England and originally
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included Bob Close on guitar and vocals
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Bob didn't stick around for too long and
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neither did the Blues element of the
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name by the summer of 1965 the band was
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slimmed down to a four-piece and the
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name too was reduced to match for the
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next couple of years the band will be
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known as the Pink Floyd have you heard
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the early things he kind of thought well
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maybe it's the stones or and he
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recognized his voice Roger's voice but
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it's not a Pink Floyd sound yet it
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needed me to leave to do that you know
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that was quite an important step I was
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involved with this organization called
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the London Free School and I was also at
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the time working as the head of the
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London office of Elektra Records and the
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guy who was the leader of the London
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Free School or not there was no official
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leader but the real figure had the real
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sort of center of energy was John
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Hopkins I was happy it was a sort of
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melting pot of local people some of whom
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were black activists and some of whom
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were white activists there's a lot of
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interest in housing and smattering of
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professional people with different
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skills and among the the people who set
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up lung free school were Andrew King and
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Peter Jenner who later on turned out to
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be the first managers of the Pink Floyd
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they said that there is this group that
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they knew
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they'd like me to hear a demo tape and
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maybe take it to Elektra and I was
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amazed I thought they were great so I
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very excitedly took this tape to the
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head of Elektra who listened and said
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and from that point I made a deal with
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the general King that I would try and
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find him a record deal during the autumn
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of 66 I continued to see the floyd on a
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regular basis they became the regular
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group playing these benefit concert that
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they put on in our efforts to raise
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money for the London free school at the
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church hall at Palace square we felt if
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we could bottle that and put it on a
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weekly basis that people would come the
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UFO Club was born and although it had a
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fairly short life it made a certain dent
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on the culture
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by 1967 after the obligatory personnel
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shuffles Syd Barrett fronted a band
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which moved to London and now comprised
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himself on lead vocal and guitar Roger
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Waters on bass Rick Wright on the
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keyboards and Nick Mason on the drums we
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always had this notion that when we hit
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learned enough that we would start a
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band together and as it happened by the
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time he arrived I was already playing
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with a few other people so he came
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joined in fact Nichkhun wrote with a
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sort of permanent once there were a
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bunch of other people who were all at
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the Regent Street Poly I would go to
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rehearsals that were out of the flats
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and performances and obviously there was
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something special happening with them at
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the same time
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by early 1967 Floyd were huge news on
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the thriving underground scene the band
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now favored the unstructured
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improvisations which were the basis for
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long extended freak-outs which were then
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highly fashionable with the trendy
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london-based crowd they were known as
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the first psychedelic band on the London
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scene and there was a real buzz about
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them and there was a real feeling that
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they were pushing back the frontiers of
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popular music by June the Floyd had
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found a management company called
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Blackhill enterprises to represent them
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our Elaine the first Pink Floyd single
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provided a surprise chart hit although
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in later years the band did admit that
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there might have been an element of
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unofficial sharp ringing to help the
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single on its way I got them a deal with
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Polydor and so they were playing at the
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UFO Club at the same time that I was I
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brought somebody from Palo tour down to
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see them they loved them I said yes here
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you go and we set up I set up my
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production company for the purpose of
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recording the Floyd and the contracts
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were all drawn up lawyers were looking
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at it back and forth etc etc and in the
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middle of all of this Jenner and King
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signed on with a new agent for them
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Brian Morrison agency and by this time
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we were ready to go in the studio for
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polidore and in fact that evening that
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they made the deal with these agents we
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were rehearsing in a small demo studio
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at Pala doors office and Jenner rang me
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up and said look the agents would like
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to come down and meet the group and just
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hear what you're up to
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you know and they came down and
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immediately I felt threatened and there
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was I knew that nothing good was gonna
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come out of this as far as I was
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concerned next day I got a call from
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Jenner to say that
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they've been very impressed with Arnold
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Layne we played the song for them I
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thought it was great
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and they could get us a much better deal
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with EMI than the deal we had with
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Polidori
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and I was crushed of course because of
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that pollen or was my deal that was
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going through my production company and
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but they wanted me to produce the single
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and I said well I'll do that I'll do
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that
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but I want to be assured that I'll be
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the producer of the album that falls the
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single and Brian Morris and said well
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EMI doesn't like to be tied down like
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that he came to me and he said where is
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this group called Pink Floyd because
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what pink what so he said Pink Floyd bar
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they said well he said that they're
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appearing at you phone I said you phone
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what do you fire so then he told me
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there's an underground with a freak out
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being topical Road you know they said
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would you would you like to go and see
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them so I thought well you know if if he
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thinks they've got something you know
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for recording then it's worth me going
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you know which I did Brian and I came
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away when had a drink and usable what do
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you think that well it's not so much the
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group very impressive their show it's
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the number of people that were their
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fans of theirs so I said to Brian yeah
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well I am interested somewhat
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reluctantly but I didn't that helped
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well I do a good job on the single you
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know
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don't want to keep the team together and
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so we went in the studio we made Arnold
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Layne and the Beast side Kent in the
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current bond Arnold Layne ism is a very
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unusual pop record sort of full stop
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because when you look at when it was
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written I mean you had sort of Ray Davis
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doing yourself in English vignettes you
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had Bowie who was sort of trying to do a
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sort of any newly thing after being a
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mod and then you had Syd Barrett coming
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in writing about a nikka snatcher
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subsequently EMI loved the record signed
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them gave them a big contract and said
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we're going to use our in-house
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producers so thanks very much and that
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was the end of my professional
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relationship with Floyd the follow-up
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single see Emily play also a hit gave
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EMI records the confidence to put Pink
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Floyd in the studio to record a full
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album this was to be called Piper at the
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Gates of Dawn it turned out yes they
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were keen to join hear my it would be my
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first major signing so therefore we're
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going up with it Norman Smith had been
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an engineer with the Beatles from the
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point where he'd come to EMI to make
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demos this was his first record as
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full-on producer they had to play me
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songs that they had in mind and they
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would obviously play it through the way
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they knew it and then I would simply
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analyze what I thought I could improve
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to to broaden the audience try to make
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them more melodic and to get away from
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all this psychedelic business you know
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when they played me see enemy play I
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thought ah it it struck a note you know
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I thought I think I can make a single
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out of this which I did and what I did
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and it was one that I was really able to
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dress up in my own way as well also you
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know
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and I thinks it hated it to be honest
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with you and Feder I'm sure he did but I
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thought things god this is going to
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happen
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I think this Emily plays is a fantastic
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psychedelic single and to be honest it
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was it was still quite early in what
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what is seen as sort of British
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psychedelia I mean then you had everyone
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going on Top of the Pops where and they
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hastily bought cravats and doing their
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versions of it but at that point I mean
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you'd had strawberry fields forever
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white shaker pale was around but family
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pet just comes from another place
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altogether it's a great subject it has a
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lovely production sound it has not too
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many gimmicks at the time we don't have
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huge huge amounts of for example phasing
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and those records or things that make
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them sound dated it sounds very much of
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its time and very much for any time but
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about the time see Emily play was riding
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high in the charts and since behaviour
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deteriorated markedly as it started to
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climb up the charts I thought the next
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thing is going to happen is trouble the
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pots before they went on they actually
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went him to makeup I was waiting for
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them in their dressing room as soon as
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they walked in our source said and he'd
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look wonderful so straightaway I made
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the mistake of saying Syd you look
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absolutely wonderful anyway look and he
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walked over to the mirror saw himself
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and he immediately scuffed up all his
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hair got tissues and started wiping off
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the the makeup etcetera and I thought
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what am I going to do with this guy you
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know anyway we went on like that and
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stood there with his guitar just
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dangling didn't even try to play it head
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sort of bowed and complete another well
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nothing and of course I mean I was
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furious and that was the first science
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for me mentally something was missing
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something was going we did the Pat Boone
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show and Pat Boone came on and you know
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set alone and what Sid would do is
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through every ran through rehearsal we
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will rehearse
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we were miming to see Emily play or
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something I think and through the run
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throughs he'd be miming away and then
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they'd go okay we'll take it because we
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were taping it and then when they went
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action you'd stand there light and that
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cut cut
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okay we're doing it now guys ready and
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Sid go yeah yeah yeah and he did and he
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do it again again until finally but he
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had to say listen isn't it weird you
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know I'll mime it from a very early age
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he didn't believe in rules and I imagine
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he was subjected to quite a few rules in
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that studio
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I mean Norman Smith was one of the old
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school and imagine getting to record at
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a certain time and getting to sing a
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song in a certain way all this must be
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very difficult for several nights Sid
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who was very much a creature of the
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times a product of his era who didn't
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like being told what to do each time
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Norman left the studio said it was with
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a splitting headache and he said it's
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dealing with Sid barrows like dealing
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with a child he just looked at you
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blankly some other time one minute II be
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up the next to be down Norman Smith did
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not even enjoy the experience of working
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with Syd Barrett it was pretty damn
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difficult with with Syd Barrett
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it was Piper that put the band on the
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map it's endearing brand of psychedelic
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whimsy was perfect for the mood of the
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day
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Barrett clearly had his finger on the
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pulse of the national mood however the
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first glimpse of a full albums worth of
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Pink Floyd was something of a musical
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enigma the album was so steeped in
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psychedelia it could only have been made
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in 1967 alongside Barrett's whimsical
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mannered compositions such as the loam
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and bike we find full blown space rock
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epics like interstellar overdrive' and
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astronomy domine the overall effect is
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one of almost palpable confusion it's
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two completely different and totally
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irreconcilable musical personalities
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battle it out for supremacy not
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surprisingly the results are somewhat
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confusing in musical terms when the
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debut album came out in 1967 the Piper
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at the Gates of Dawn it was generally
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enthusiastically received with one
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notable exception the clientele of the
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UFO Club in Tottenham Court Road which
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became to pinpoint what the cavern had
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been to the Beatles were generally
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rather sniffy towards ourselves and
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there was a widespread opinion that the
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Piper at the Gates of Dawn and quite
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significantly failed to capture the
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band's live sound I think part of the
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gate for Dorne is grayed out pop at the
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gates of door is the best blow it out
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for me I absolutely love it it's the
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sound of a band going places where no
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one had ever been before
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totally innovative totally experimental
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you take some of the songs of the first
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album you know bike I've got a boat you
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can write it if you like it's got a
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basket but all the rings and things to
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make it look good I'd give it to you if
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I could but I borrowed it there's
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something away about the way the lyric
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attaches to the meter in a very
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satisfying way but then they kids but I
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borrowed it kind of kicks it off into
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there's something very English about
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that about the completeness of that and
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yet
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the fact that it's so unpredictable I
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think it was the unpredictability of it
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combined with its simplicity that that
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made it so special
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Piper at the Gates of Dawn I think sits
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as a unique artifact separate from the
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rest of Pink Floyd it was a different
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band people actively hate Pink Floyd for
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what they became but embrace that you
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know the city of Pink Floyd and it's
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almost like a badge you know I actually
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hate his annoyed but the first album
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by the time the band came to make its
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second album CID was no longer
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functioning as either performer or
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writer thinks it's its own illness it
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put it probably you know we can say that
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marijuana to a certain extent an asset
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to a large extent can do nothing but
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exacerbate that collection of symptoms
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that we put together and loosely
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described a schizophrenia anything and
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so there is no doubt but that those
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things are very bad for schizophrenic
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they worsen the condition and they and
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so on and so forth and so and they way
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there is no doubt that Sid was
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schizophrenic and that he was taking
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those those drugs at the same time we
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had a sort of style of almost if there
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was a problem ignore it and it finally
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sort of came to the point where we
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ignored it by not picking sit up one day
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just going off with the other four of us
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Sid was the creative force behind the
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original recording lineup of Pink Floyd
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not only was he the lead vocalist and
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the guitarist he was also the writer of
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all the fledgling groups material now
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without Sid to call upon Pink Floyd
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needed both a guitarist and a writer
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finally the guitarist was relatively
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easy David Gilmour friend of SIDS from
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Cambridge had been drafted in as the
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fifth member to provide onstage cover
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for the increasingly unstable frontman
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when Sid drifted out of the picture
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Gilmour was already in place filling the
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gap left by Barrett the writer proved to
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be somewhat bigger of a challenge
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overnight the hit singles suddenly dried
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up losing the flow of songs was
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disastrous for us at that point cuz he
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was doing most of the writing so I said
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why doesn't he just write songs and come
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and record and we'll go and do gigs but
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he there's no way you can do that they
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rang up eventually maybe a specific
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offer which obviously was the start of a
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very difficult and strange time with
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both Syd and I turning up together to
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two rehearsals and you're going out and
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doing shows with five of us where I
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would be playing I'd be learning and
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playing Sid's parts and singing sits
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songs well Syd it'd be sort of standing
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there and sometimes singing a little bit
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and sometimes playing a little bit very
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odd
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shall I light all good laughter or shall
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I try to kill him I don't how it's
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certainly as far as I'm concerned I
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don't remember being overcome with
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compassion but having said that as I say
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I think there were a number of people
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who did try and do their best for him
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and there were attempts to get him to
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therapy in' and so on we never actually
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managed to get him through the front
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door we can you know got him to the door
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a couple of times whenever going through
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the job I I think someone said that they
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described all of said symptoms to him
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but he did say something like well are
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you sure this is SIDS problem which it
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may be with it's a good thing to say one
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night soon after Barrett was ousted from
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the band when he came into the UFO Club
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and he stood right in front of Gilmour
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on stage Gilmour recounted later that
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Sid's head was about at his foot height
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and he just stood there throughout the
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Floyd set glaring upwards straight into
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Gilmore's eyes about 35 minutes and
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buried mine Gilmour and Barrett had been
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friends since childhood and and really
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remain friends
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for years and years afterwards but that
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incident had a very profound effect on
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Gilmore who confined it to his flatmates
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afterwards that he didn't think he would
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carry on anymore he was that disturbed
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by that particular evening the group as
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a whole was greater than the sum of the
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parts and that's why
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Floyd managed to survive after Sibley
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because that essence of what they were
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doing together survived I said was a
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great performer and a great you never
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knew what was going to come from SIDS
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guitar now you know I saw a lot of great
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performers around that period and Sid
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was definitely a great performing away
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from it very challenging the definition
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of the word genius extends to someone
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who makes a profound effect on the lives
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of others and if you take that then I
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think can apply it to said bio it quite
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well
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[Music]
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I don't think it's an exaggeration to
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say that in this pop never really
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recovered from the loss of Syd Barrett
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as it as a writer and indeed as a
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guitarist he was never adequately
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replaced Syd Barrett made only a
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marginal contribution to a Saucerful of
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Secrets
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the second Pink Floyd album the pop
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sensibilities of Piper are increasingly
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buried under layers of avant-garde
544
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experimentation as Freud begin to grasp
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their way towards the sound which made
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them a worldwide success highlights
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include set the controls for the heart
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of the Sun and the heavenly voices
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section of the title track simple
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straight numbers such as jug band Blues
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and corporal Clegg now seems slightly
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out of place as the main emphasis is
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clearly on the instrumental heavyweights
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jump band blues is one of the saddest
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things you can hear it really is there's
556
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a version of it which was recorded for
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John people showed just before Christmas
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1967 so really on the cusp of seds last
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days as a member of the Pink Floyd and
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I've known people who were reduced to
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tears over that thing yes I defy anyone
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to listen to joke band blues almost 40
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years after he's written and defy them
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not to be terribly moved by the lyrics
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in that particular song it's the one
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flash of seed that you get instills full
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of secrets and it's like he's addressing
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the fact that he's not quite with it
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anymore mentally
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the title track Saucerful of Secrets and
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set the controls for the heart of the
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Sun definitely hint what was to come
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their continued exploration with sound
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effects which were a great thing and the
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extended themes were absolutely
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brilliant because of the experimentation
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I'd be doing the with sounds each song
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that came up that I listened to I would
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be going through my head I reckoned
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perhaps some of those sounds could work
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here so it was to be built as one went
582
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along but he'd sound sometimes of course
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an song didn't need though those sort of
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gimmicks at all but like feedback or or
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tape loops played backwards and it echo
586
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added to it and all stuff like they set
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the controls is one of my favorite
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tracks from that era because it's really
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quite strange and and it has a
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particular mood and that's one of the
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things they were always very good at
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getting still are you know it's creating
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a mood
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the taboo against songs longer than
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three minutes
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I've been lifted in a way there have
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been you know different groups doing
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longer sort of extended instrumentals
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and things like that and so they were
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able to put on record the way that they
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sounded in person much more in addition
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to studio recordings at this time
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Floyd also producing soundtrack music
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for films the original soundtrack from
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the film more was the first of two
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soundtracks made for the french director
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Barbet Schroeder with the band still
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working to find a solid direction in
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writing terms the next album was to be a
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curious hybrid I try to encourage them
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in their own sort of producing at home
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they all had little studio things that
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they could do a record on and just
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simply bring them into the studio with
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me and I'll go through them etc so I
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encouraged them to more and more produce
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themselves and particularly Norma goomar
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where they each had a section of that
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album to themselves they could do
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exactly whatever they wanted I have a
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memory of working as an assistant at a
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pop on some of the Piper at the Gates of
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doing sessions and I was extremely
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impressed because that was wonderful so
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you know you had this expectation this
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was going to be great you were going to
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come in and you're going to do all these
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his wonderful songs and it didn't turn
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out quite like her they all came in and
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we all sat there and Norman said to him
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well you got some songs they didn't know
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and had to decide what they were going
633
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to do in terms of what they're going to
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do for this record they had to make a
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record they've got sessions booked what
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were they going to do and and after much
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discussion it was decided that they
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would have a quarter of the record each
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to do whatever they wanted and that the
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others would you know the other three
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would assist the one whose quarter it
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was to do now I mean at that stage
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probably there would have been other
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producers who would have said no sorry
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would cancel sessions go away rights and
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songs come back and we're done whereas
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Norman went with it and we ended up with
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what we ended up with and I wouldn't
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interfere they could do unless
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helped them it's it's an integration
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between the music and the effects it's
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you can't really separate the two out I
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00:29:08,669 --> 00:29:14,340
mean you can listen to what any of the
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four parts and they all have the
655
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integration of effects and music or
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sounds or experimentation or whatever
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00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:22,288
you want to call it there's a lot of
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double speed and half speed stuff going
659
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on in there
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backwards stuff going on in there be
661
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interesting to pull it apart and
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actually see what it was at the time you
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know we put there savvy over all the
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experiment strays too far towards
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freeform instrumental exploration
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without enough of the melodic
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counterpoint which was to make their
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next album so successful mortis himself
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let it described the album as a disaster
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although I'm a Gummer had proved an
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inconsistent experience the band
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continued to work hard and the constant
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touring saw them improved very much in
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the live arena life on tour and playing
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together almost every night was
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sharpening up the group's collective
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skills as a writing unit as well the
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results of this process would be seen in
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the next album atom heart mother
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released in October 1970 this album was
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to be the first real breakthrough for
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Pink Floyd the whole first side of the
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00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:27,149
album comprised an avant-garde
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instrumental piece featuring choir and
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orchestral elements arranged by Ron
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Geeson what happened in a tomorrow
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mother was that because they were a kind
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of exhausted because of commitments and
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and demands by the manager and EMI
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00:30:46,619 --> 00:30:56,089
records they needed some other input so
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because I was friends with them all I
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00:30:56,089 --> 00:31:04,168
was asked to be their input really they
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00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:08,538
had five or six little sections that
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they had recorded at EMI abbey road of
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what I call a backing track and they had
696
00:31:12,589 --> 00:31:21,658
then stuck these together as you do with
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00:31:17,878 --> 00:31:25,439
magnetic tape so with that they come up
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00:31:21,659 --> 00:31:27,860
with a tape which was an accompaniment
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tape
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00:31:28,049 --> 00:31:33,119
blasting I can't remember 23 minutes or
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00:31:31,259 --> 00:31:37,900
something and I have been 25 and a half
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whatever was under 30 and over 20 and
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[Music]
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they gave me that a mix a rough mix of
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that tape and we had some discussions
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about what might go on it they said they
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wanted a big sound and we had a very
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00:32:02,849 --> 00:32:07,439
short session and I'm talking like a
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morning and I another bit of an
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00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:14,240
afternoon somewhere I think where Rick
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00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:18,690
Wright came around my studio in Labrador
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00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:21,690
London West 10:00 and we looked at the
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00:32:18,690 --> 00:32:26,700
choir section so he may be suggested
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00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:28,170
some notes or our way of going but there
715
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,480
was nothing written down either
716
00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:34,050
there was nothing written down for the
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00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,960
choir at that time at that session and
718
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then Dave came round with her with a
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sort of an arpeggio and suggesting that
720
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for the four what was in fact the main
721
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:51,570
theme the frosty the rest of it was me
722
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:55,650
it's an it's a concoction it's an
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00:32:51,569 --> 00:32:57,720
assembly the speeds were all wrong like
724
00:32:55,650 --> 00:32:59,580
when you're moving through a piece you
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00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,750
know when it should speed up you know
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00:32:59,579 --> 00:33:05,250
when it should slow down in fact the
727
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:06,750
reverse happened with some of the
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00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:08,430
sections because when they stuck the
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00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:16,819
sections together they didn't actually
730
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:21,950
really work so my job was to craft
731
00:33:16,819 --> 00:33:26,869
something sensible on top of this
732
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:30,500
rather cobbled collage or montage and
733
00:33:26,869 --> 00:33:33,859
make it look like it was working the art
734
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:37,279
bit was getting a couple of melodies
735
00:33:33,859 --> 00:33:40,879
that really worked and I believe that
736
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:43,480
the opening theme melody really works
737
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,600
now and the cello melody really works
738
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,250
and they're entirely out of my head
739
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:51,319
both of them are quite expansive they
740
00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:56,599
cover quite a wide range I mean the
741
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:59,309
whole one starts on the space without an
742
00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:03,529
octave but then it expands
743
00:33:59,309 --> 00:34:03,529
and then further
744
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:08,779
so you've covered that whole space which
745
00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:10,519
is quite quite right arranging if you
746
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:11,580
then look at the cello theme it starts
747
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:19,300
down at the same place
748
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[Music]
749
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:25,580
it's actually slightly wider but not
750
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,680
much so they both have this sense of of
751
00:34:25,579 --> 00:34:29,360
expansiveness of space they're not
752
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:32,179
claustrophobic atom heart mother
753
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,610
featured more of the gentler pastoral
754
00:34:32,179 --> 00:34:37,250
Floyd sound which characterized the
755
00:34:34,610 --> 00:34:40,519
album's around about this time the Roger
756
00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:42,469
Waters song if and Gilmore's fat old son
757
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:45,110
proved to be the highlights of the
758
00:34:42,469 --> 00:34:46,969
mellow second side of the illness how on
759
00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:48,829
earth is somewhat fat holds fun certain
760
00:34:46,969 --> 00:34:50,179
fame Eldon is acting out mother in some
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00:34:48,829 --> 00:34:52,279
ways it reminds me a bit of us at a
762
00:34:50,179 --> 00:34:54,440
country song you know it's sort of weird
763
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,140
because on the same album there's this
764
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,869
completely and utterly British Standard
765
00:34:57,139 --> 00:35:01,879
soul but I quite like it when they play
766
00:34:59,869 --> 00:35:04,069
it on stage it's like a different song
767
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,470
it's got all the dynamics or the passion
768
00:35:04,070 --> 00:35:09,980
all the greatness of Floyd tracks the
769
00:35:06,469 --> 00:35:12,439
one thing that the Pink Floyd to me have
770
00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:14,150
always been able to do is transmit their
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00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,450
emotion from the record to the listener
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00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:19,550
I think that's why they're so popular it
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00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:22,099
was a group effort and everybody was
774
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:24,380
doing enjoying it and I think that comes
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00:35:22,099 --> 00:35:27,099
across here's the opening sequence for
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00:35:24,380 --> 00:35:27,099
atom heart mother
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00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:34,400
under the horn Melanie
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00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:36,409
a four chord sequence which just repeats
779
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,599
it doesn't repeat the same every time
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00:35:36,409 --> 00:35:41,049
but pretty well what do we get under fat
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00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,049
old son
782
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:49,838
exactly the same metrically it's exactly
783
00:35:48,278 --> 00:35:52,539
the same you've got this ponderous fall
784
00:35:49,838 --> 00:35:54,338
for what is different between fat old
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00:35:52,539 --> 00:35:56,170
son and atom heart mother is that you
786
00:35:54,338 --> 00:35:57,940
have some lyrics so it makes it a song
787
00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:59,980
will that matters that that takes it out
788
00:35:57,940 --> 00:36:04,510
of the realm of that heart mother great
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00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:06,818
things and you have no you have no
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00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:08,319
orchestral instruments but other than
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00:36:06,818 --> 00:36:10,119
that they're exactly the same they come
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00:36:08,318 --> 00:36:13,170
from exactly the same stay with exactly
793
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:17,140
the same way of thinking maybe in a way
794
00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:19,630
the album had to have these more subdued
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00:36:17,139 --> 00:36:21,250
and cooler tracts otherwise you might
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00:36:19,630 --> 00:36:22,798
have gone
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[Music]
798
00:36:22,798 --> 00:36:26,818
they had established themselves
799
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:29,459
originally as 3-minute hits single
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00:36:26,818 --> 00:36:31,708
people in a way with see Emily playing
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00:36:29,458 --> 00:36:33,478
Arnold Layne and although live of course
802
00:36:31,708 --> 00:36:35,938
they'd always experiment even played
803
00:36:33,478 --> 00:36:38,098
longer pieces but now I could do that on
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00:36:35,938 --> 00:36:40,528
my album stew with that'm heart mother
805
00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:43,318
the band was now firmly into its musical
806
00:36:40,528 --> 00:36:45,630
stride and the signs were auspicious for
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00:36:43,318 --> 00:36:49,409
the next album when it finally arrived
808
00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:52,108
in November 1971 medal was to exceed all
809
00:36:49,409 --> 00:36:54,528
expectations that is the album released
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00:36:52,108 --> 00:36:56,219
they moved from post Barrett
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experimentalists trying to find the
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00:36:56,219 --> 00:37:00,479
right identity it's where they began to
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00:36:58,170 --> 00:37:03,088
find their identity and hit hit on me
814
00:37:00,478 --> 00:37:05,399
the motifs that they were then turned
815
00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:10,889
into the the tremendous in transcendent
816
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:13,170
Dark Side of the Moon with this album
817
00:37:10,889 --> 00:37:14,998
Pink Floyd demonstrated that the group
818
00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:17,099
had learned how to take their original
819
00:37:14,998 --> 00:37:19,139
sound effects which the band have made
820
00:37:17,099 --> 00:37:21,289
their own and weaves them together with
821
00:37:19,139 --> 00:37:24,058
the music to create a seamless blend
822
00:37:21,289 --> 00:37:27,179
which was to become synonymous with Pink
823
00:37:24,059 --> 00:37:30,359
Floyd the results are best seen still in
824
00:37:27,179 --> 00:37:32,130
echoes it's got all of the great floyd
825
00:37:30,358 --> 00:37:34,498
qualities coming together possibly for
826
00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:37,829
the very first time they drama the
827
00:37:34,498 --> 00:37:40,188
dynamics really individual distinctive
828
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:44,278
lead guitar playing gorgeous melodies
829
00:37:40,188 --> 00:37:46,048
harmony singing that's a Rick Wright and
830
00:37:44,278 --> 00:37:47,998
Dave Gilmour singing together
831
00:37:46,048 --> 00:37:50,130
so very close harmonies always between
832
00:37:47,998 --> 00:37:51,928
Rick Wright and Dave Gilmour they're
833
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:54,269
always kind of there's certainly nothing
834
00:37:51,929 --> 00:37:55,139
sweetly birds being poppy going on in
835
00:37:54,268 --> 00:37:57,419
row
836
00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:59,699
echoes was the centerpiece of metal was
837
00:37:57,420 --> 00:38:03,809
the centerpiece of their live show at
838
00:37:59,699 --> 00:38:06,778
that time and was a melding together of
839
00:38:03,809 --> 00:38:09,839
many episodes and was something that
840
00:38:06,778 --> 00:38:13,139
they could replicate live very very well
841
00:38:09,838 --> 00:38:14,518
echoes is absolutely a landmark in Pink
842
00:38:13,139 --> 00:38:16,708
Floyd's Korea it's the one which
843
00:38:14,518 --> 00:38:18,268
probably meant that they didn't just
844
00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:19,858
wind up round about now being just
845
00:38:18,268 --> 00:38:22,048
another psychedelic band who couldn't
846
00:38:19,858 --> 00:38:23,019
get a break it's when they learned how
847
00:38:22,048 --> 00:38:25,269
to
848
00:38:23,019 --> 00:38:28,150
with an extended expanded piece of music
849
00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:29,860
to make it accessible to the casual
850
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:32,050
listener Becker has also formed the
851
00:38:29,860 --> 00:38:34,090
foundations of the superb film Pink
852
00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:37,600
Floyd at Pompeii directed by French
853
00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:39,460
director Adrian Marvin Pink Floyd had
854
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:41,139
always been greatly appreciated in
855
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:43,599
Europe and the Pompeii film is the
856
00:38:41,139 --> 00:38:45,670
result of a European co-production it is
857
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:48,279
still rightly regarded by many as the
858
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:50,980
best a vocation of the Floyd in the live
859
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,660
environment on the whole the album is
860
00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:54,190
still a rather patchy offering in which
861
00:38:52,659 --> 00:38:57,819
the weaker moments outnumbered are
862
00:38:54,190 --> 00:39:00,250
strong its yet middle represented rather
863
00:38:57,820 --> 00:39:02,710
than its content you know after all this
864
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:05,309
sort of messing about with film
865
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:07,480
soundtracks line albums you know
866
00:39:05,309 --> 00:39:12,279
projects are atom heart mother I think
867
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:17,199
that it was probably the first true post
868
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:19,300
Sid Pink Floyd album the real Pink Floyd
869
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:22,960
masterpiece was just around the corner
870
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:24,730
in March 1973 Pink Floyd released the
871
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,550
album which would take them into the
872
00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:27,820
musical stratosphere Dark Side of the
873
00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:31,820
Moon
874
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:33,920
[Music]
875
00:39:31,820 --> 00:39:35,150
with Dark Side of the Moon everything
876
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,710
came together beautifully
877
00:39:35,150 --> 00:39:39,079
the songs were fascinating
878
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:41,710
state-of-the-art technology interested
879
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:43,940
people the album cover was intriguing
880
00:39:41,710 --> 00:39:47,000
everything about it hit at the right
881
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:50,539
time in my opinion Darkseid was the most
882
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:54,139
accessible Floyd album to date and as
883
00:39:50,539 --> 00:39:57,920
most rounded and in a sense it was a
884
00:39:54,139 --> 00:40:00,259
sort of underground rocks Sergeant
885
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,559
Pepper if you like Dark Side of the Moon
886
00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:05,330
started off with as a mish mash as the
887
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:08,779
band sitting down once they'd finished
888
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:10,130
touring in America in early 1971 I'm
889
00:40:08,780 --> 00:40:11,660
thinking we've got to do a new album
890
00:40:10,130 --> 00:40:14,000
what have we got they have some ideas
891
00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:17,029
bits and bobs Dave Gilbert always says
892
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,610
nothing gels and so one day Roger Waters
893
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:23,019
walked in and said I've got this idea
894
00:40:18,610 --> 00:40:23,019
let's do this as a concept album
895
00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:28,640
it was great gig in the sky ric reitz
896
00:40:27,048 --> 00:40:30,710
piano playing for me is absolutely
897
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:33,489
fantastic and he's coming from a kind of
898
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:33,490
a jazz angle
899
00:40:34,469 --> 00:40:39,969
even just that piece of music as an
900
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,050
emotional quarter that's what we're
901
00:40:39,969 --> 00:40:45,189
struggling to find
902
00:40:41,050 --> 00:40:47,800
[Music]
903
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:50,950
I went up to Abbey Road I had no idea
904
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,210
what it was nobody told me I didn't know
905
00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:54,009
whether I was going to walk into the
906
00:40:52,210 --> 00:40:58,269
studio there's going to be a choir to
907
00:40:54,010 --> 00:41:01,920
other girls three other girls no idea so
908
00:40:58,269 --> 00:41:01,920
I walked into the control room and the
909
00:41:03,179 --> 00:41:10,299
band were there and they proceeded to
910
00:41:07,869 --> 00:41:13,869
explain to me that they were doing this
911
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:18,430
album it was nearly finished and that
912
00:41:13,869 --> 00:41:22,358
the concept of the album and death and
913
00:41:18,429 --> 00:41:25,000
everything else in between and they
914
00:41:22,358 --> 00:41:26,049
played with the backing track when I
915
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,818
said well what do you want
916
00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:35,200
and basically they had no idea so I
917
00:41:30,818 --> 00:41:39,489
thought oh lovely and when I look back I
918
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:43,899
was fairly new to this sort of world you
919
00:41:39,489 --> 00:41:46,838
know and probably quite naive but anyway
920
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:50,559
I listened to the track a couple of
921
00:41:46,838 --> 00:41:53,679
times a night I personally had no idea
922
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:55,570
and all what they wanted have I said I
923
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:58,269
think the best thing for me is to go
924
00:41:55,570 --> 00:42:01,030
into the studio put the cans on and have
925
00:41:58,269 --> 00:42:03,519
a little girl and see what happens so I
926
00:42:01,030 --> 00:42:05,710
started off by going oh baby baby yeah
927
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:08,829
yeah baby baby which is what what
928
00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:11,050
intended to do for sort of scat sort of
929
00:42:08,829 --> 00:42:12,190
singing and they said oh no no no no no
930
00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:17,260
we don't want any words
931
00:42:12,190 --> 00:42:17,710
well that really stumped me so david
932
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:20,380
gilmour
933
00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:23,679
came he I have to say that he was really
934
00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:28,630
the the one that directed me there
935
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:30,460
wasn't a word from anybody else so David
936
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:32,740
said would I would you like me to write
937
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:37,750
out the chord sequence I said no no no
938
00:42:32,739 --> 00:42:39,549
no no no no and it sort of happened when
939
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:43,090
I I thought well I really don't know
940
00:42:39,550 --> 00:42:46,210
what they want I don't know but okay
941
00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:48,190
best feet forward you know and I thought
942
00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:50,289
well and I've said this many times but
943
00:42:48,190 --> 00:42:53,650
it's absolutely true that I thought I
944
00:42:50,289 --> 00:42:58,079
have to pretend to be an instrument and
945
00:42:53,650 --> 00:43:00,579
that's gave me an avenue to explore and
946
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:03,400
so I started doing something so we like
947
00:43:00,579 --> 00:43:05,860
that so I said to Alan okay
948
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,170
put the red light on record this because
949
00:43:05,860 --> 00:43:12,099
usually the first take is the best and I
950
00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:13,780
started singing and did it I went into
951
00:43:12,099 --> 00:43:16,119
the control room and they played it and
952
00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:18,460
not a lot was said and I said I will
953
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:22,239
well thank you very much goodbye and
954
00:43:18,460 --> 00:43:24,369
left and I was convinced it would never
955
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,739
see the light of day because they hadn't
956
00:43:24,369 --> 00:43:30,069
commented they hadn't made any do not I
957
00:43:26,739 --> 00:43:31,899
mean they hadn't said great faithful
958
00:43:30,070 --> 00:43:35,140
nothing
959
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:40,900
greatly it is slightly different from
960
00:43:35,139 --> 00:43:44,190
the rest of the album and I think it is
961
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:48,338
because there's an outside influence
962
00:43:44,190 --> 00:43:50,230
which is somebody else came in happened
963
00:43:48,338 --> 00:43:51,998
to be me could it could have been I
964
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:57,159
don't know could have been Vicky brown
965
00:43:51,998 --> 00:44:00,509
then or saxophone player but but with
966
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:05,018
the voice you you get a whole different
967
00:44:00,509 --> 00:44:07,210
input some different mindset and I think
968
00:44:05,018 --> 00:44:09,909
that's what perhaps why it stands out
969
00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:13,210
because it is not the four people in the
970
00:44:09,909 --> 00:44:16,088
band that have totally done it it
971
00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:17,858
there's an outside influence the use of
972
00:44:16,088 --> 00:44:20,558
Clare Torry on the album is something
973
00:44:17,858 --> 00:44:22,358
that I think every female vocalist
974
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:25,630
whoever you are has got to listen to and
975
00:44:22,358 --> 00:44:27,369
aspire to you know maybe one day I will
976
00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:32,559
crack that whole piece and I'll just be
977
00:44:27,369 --> 00:44:35,680
the happiest person alone it's a taxing
978
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:39,789
piece to sing from beginning to end and
979
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:44,919
in fact I believe well believe that when
980
00:44:39,789 --> 00:44:47,079
Floyd or Roger have they don't always do
981
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:52,170
greatly in the sky but if they have the
982
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:56,400
free backing vocalists do a third each
983
00:44:52,170 --> 00:44:56,400
makes it it's exhausting
984
00:44:56,789 --> 00:45:02,579
this the ultimate Floyd album captured
985
00:45:00,489 --> 00:45:05,709
just the right blend of lyricism
986
00:45:02,579 --> 00:45:10,170
inspired instrumental passages sound
987
00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:10,170
effects and genuine musical innovation
988
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:15,070
just how to follow up a massive success
989
00:45:13,059 --> 00:45:16,750
without disappointing the public is
990
00:45:15,070 --> 00:45:19,180
always regarded as one of the most
991
00:45:16,750 --> 00:45:20,860
difficult tasks in music the response
992
00:45:19,179 --> 00:45:23,469
from Pink Floyd to the worldwide acclaim
993
00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:26,070
for Dark Side of the Moon was to deliver
994
00:45:23,469 --> 00:45:29,409
wish you were here released in September
995
00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:31,330
1975 a classic recording which in many
996
00:45:29,409 --> 00:45:33,609
respects out shown its illustrious
997
00:45:31,329 --> 00:45:35,739
predecessor when I think about it I can
998
00:45:33,610 --> 00:45:38,530
still see his eyes it was everything
999
00:45:35,739 --> 00:45:41,319
else service it's different seven years
1000
00:45:38,530 --> 00:45:42,730
but no contact and then to walk in while
1001
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,670
we're actually doing that particular
1002
00:45:42,730 --> 00:45:48,119
track didn't recognize him at all he'd
1003
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:51,880
shaven all his hair off he was about
1004
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:53,829
probably 17 18 stone I had no idea who
1005
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,329
he was for a long time and neither did
1006
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:58,480
anybody else I didn't think for a while
1007
00:45:55,329 --> 00:46:02,650
coincidence karma fate who knows but it
1008
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:05,139
was very very very powerful shiny new
1009
00:46:02,650 --> 00:46:07,450
crazy diamonds is a masterpiece it's a
1010
00:46:05,139 --> 00:46:09,819
masterwork it is in a way a
1011
00:46:07,449 --> 00:46:12,369
representation of their entire career up
1012
00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:15,889
to that point in one track
1013
00:46:12,369 --> 00:46:15,888
[Music]
1014
00:46:17,539 --> 00:46:23,989
I sort of knew that really we were over
1015
00:46:20,809 --> 00:46:25,400
as far as the band of brothers notion of
1016
00:46:23,989 --> 00:46:27,379
the pop group was concerned we just
1017
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,530
weren't anymore and we were never going
1018
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:34,910
to be that again and so I was mourning
1019
00:46:30,530 --> 00:46:37,769
that loss as well as the loss of have
1020
00:46:34,909 --> 00:46:39,190
said as a as a friend and as a colleague
1021
00:46:37,769 --> 00:46:43,090
[Music]
1022
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:46,148
came from just playing an a minor chord
1023
00:46:43,090 --> 00:46:46,149
[Music]
1024
00:46:46,778 --> 00:46:52,719
and just move my fingers to the wrong
1025
00:46:49,429 --> 00:46:52,719
position it could just be an accident
1026
00:46:55,268 --> 00:47:03,778
it did seem to sort of have a sort of
1027
00:46:57,818 --> 00:47:03,778
hinting cooling sounds to
1028
00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:10,689
shine on you crazy diamond with its
1029
00:47:07,838 --> 00:47:13,269
majestic introduction is arguably the
1030
00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:15,940
finest recording in the entire Pink
1031
00:47:13,269 --> 00:47:18,250
Floyd Canon once again there are no
1032
00:47:15,940 --> 00:47:21,220
fillers or throwaway numbers on this
1033
00:47:18,250 --> 00:47:23,800
flawless album every track pulls its
1034
00:47:21,219 --> 00:47:29,019
weight I think it's our best album I
1035
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:32,410
love it lyrically but I also like just
1036
00:47:29,019 --> 00:47:35,349
musically and I love the flow of it and
1037
00:47:32,409 --> 00:47:36,969
I just think I mean I I will listen to
1038
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:40,420
that album four pleasures not many of
1039
00:47:36,969 --> 00:47:42,189
the Floyd albums I can I feel the wish
1040
00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:45,670
it were here album doesn't have a set
1041
00:47:42,190 --> 00:47:47,200
theme or a set tone every song seems to
1042
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:50,079
be slightly different from shine on you
1043
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:53,639
crazy diamond to the barbs of have a
1044
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:55,750
cigar to the almost distressed
1045
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:58,118
insouciance of welcome to the Machine
1046
00:47:55,750 --> 00:48:01,059
almost the acceptance of well what are
1047
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:02,920
we going to do to wish you were here
1048
00:48:01,059 --> 00:48:05,289
which seems to be a longing for
1049
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,869
something that's already gone it has an
1050
00:48:05,289 --> 00:48:10,150
emotional depth that and it's a sort of
1051
00:48:07,869 --> 00:48:11,740
fairly universal I think and and I
1052
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:16,539
suppose you could say that we haven't
1053
00:48:11,739 --> 00:48:19,328
done quite as many concerts as people
1054
00:48:16,539 --> 00:48:23,199
like the stones have or someone we've so
1055
00:48:19,329 --> 00:48:25,539
my performance is a wish over here
1056
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:27,489
still numbering sort of three or four
1057
00:48:25,539 --> 00:48:29,769
hundreds I suppose there's no are
1058
00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,529
thousands or some people I do but it
1059
00:48:29,769 --> 00:48:34,389
always it still resonates it still has
1060
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:37,500
has its meaning it means that to me
1061
00:48:34,389 --> 00:48:37,500
every time I sing it
1062
00:48:38,340 --> 00:49:06,838
[Music]
1063
00:49:06,989 --> 00:49:14,548
play that in the UM in the control room
1064
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:14,548
of number three studio at Abbey Road and
1065
00:49:15,838 --> 00:49:20,798
it's just something I've been struggling
1066
00:49:18,099 --> 00:49:24,180
at home and Roger immediately said
1067
00:49:20,798 --> 00:49:26,528
what's that Elsa and we had just sort of
1068
00:49:24,179 --> 00:49:29,078
immediately get on with that and work it
1069
00:49:26,528 --> 00:49:31,150
up and write the rest of the musical so
1070
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:33,880
I don't think wish you were here as a
1071
00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:36,759
song represents what the album was about
1072
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,900
so much as an element of what the album
1073
00:49:36,759 --> 00:49:39,818
was about and the album went in
1074
00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:41,949
different directions and a lot of the
1075
00:49:39,818 --> 00:49:43,900
album is couched him Syd Barrett terms
1076
00:49:41,949 --> 00:49:46,088
not in the way the music was presented
1077
00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:49,509
but in a way that they were trying to
1078
00:49:46,088 --> 00:49:50,978
bring this ghost from the past into the
1079
00:49:49,509 --> 00:49:53,438
modern environment to still make him
1080
00:49:50,978 --> 00:49:55,929
part of what they were doing because he
1081
00:49:53,438 --> 00:49:58,719
was very much still a crucial element in
1082
00:49:55,929 --> 00:50:00,879
the Pink Floyd story sadly this was to
1083
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,338
be the last album produced as a real
1084
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:07,119
cohesive joint effort by the entire band
1085
00:50:03,338 --> 00:50:09,239
Animals released in January 1977 was the
1086
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:12,489
first of three Floyd albums which were
1087
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,978
masterminded by Roger Waters fortunately
1088
00:50:12,489 --> 00:50:18,269
the album also coincided with waters
1089
00:50:14,978 --> 00:50:21,368
reaching his very best form as a writer
1090
00:50:18,268 --> 00:50:24,188
the choice of subject matter on animals
1091
00:50:21,369 --> 00:50:26,739
is typically bleak and joyless but
1092
00:50:24,188 --> 00:50:29,219
instrumentally the band continued to
1093
00:50:26,739 --> 00:50:31,838
shine as brightly as ever
1094
00:50:29,219 --> 00:50:34,028
Rick Wright plays very much a backseat
1095
00:50:31,838 --> 00:50:36,849
role in this album he's he plays a lot
1096
00:50:34,028 --> 00:50:40,028
of pads simple backing but the lovely
1097
00:50:36,849 --> 00:50:41,679
rhodes piano intro to sheep is is one of
1098
00:50:40,028 --> 00:50:43,719
the last times we'd hear him in full
1099
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:47,048
flow for quite some time absolutely
1100
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:49,479
excellent there were no really strong
1101
00:50:47,048 --> 00:50:52,958
melodies like us and then or Molly or
1102
00:50:49,478 --> 00:50:55,538
anything like that but just it showed
1103
00:50:52,958 --> 00:50:58,719
the depth that Roger Waters would would
1104
00:50:55,539 --> 00:51:00,849
go into to explore lyrical themes very
1105
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,338
clever lyrics a great piece of
1106
00:51:00,849 --> 00:51:06,670
composition by Roger Waters and by now
1107
00:51:03,338 --> 00:51:08,978
he was putting his indelible stamp or as
1108
00:51:06,670 --> 00:51:12,659
the leader of the direction of Pink
1109
00:51:08,978 --> 00:51:16,239
Floyd it's it was the start of a kind of
1110
00:51:12,659 --> 00:51:17,858
dispute between Roger Waters and Rick
1111
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,909
Wright their keyboard player and Dave
1112
00:51:17,858 --> 00:51:22,159
Gilmour early guitar player
1113
00:51:19,909 --> 00:51:23,989
which was sort of I think there's cotton
1114
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,730
tanks written at atmosphere while we
1115
00:51:23,989 --> 00:51:27,108
were actually making that album they
1116
00:51:25,730 --> 00:51:29,929
were looking for a guitar player their
1117
00:51:27,108 --> 00:51:32,750
room manager got I've got my name I
1118
00:51:29,929 --> 00:51:35,750
think I was recommended as being an
1119
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:39,798
ordinary guy you know could play a bit
1120
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:41,960
and so he called me up and said the boys
1121
00:51:39,798 --> 00:51:43,900
are finishing their album want to come
1122
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:48,349
to the studio and meet them
1123
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:52,358
that was the animals helping us 76 and
1124
00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:54,530
so I went along and I said well you've
1125
00:51:52,358 --> 00:51:58,068
told me you know can you play a bit of
1126
00:51:54,530 --> 00:52:01,849
bass I said yeah and can you want to do
1127
00:51:58,068 --> 00:52:03,710
the gig yeah I said to David Gilmour
1128
00:52:01,849 --> 00:52:06,140
yeah I'd love to do it but you know
1129
00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:08,389
maybe we should have a bit of jam so you
1130
00:52:06,139 --> 00:52:09,828
can see how apply and make sure I said I
1131
00:52:08,389 --> 00:52:12,379
think wouldn't be actually couldn't play
1132
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:14,480
with you and I said well no not really
1133
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:16,579
he said well that's all right then the
1134
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:20,298
first tour I did was the animals album
1135
00:52:16,579 --> 00:52:21,589
tour and that was much more free as a
1136
00:52:20,298 --> 00:52:23,239
look you know especially towards the end
1137
00:52:21,588 --> 00:52:25,308
of the set there was a lot more freedom
1138
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,439
to do bits and pieces and stretching out
1139
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:30,048
of it often overlooked in favor of what
1140
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,568
went before and after animals
1141
00:52:30,048 --> 00:52:36,650
represented another milestone in the run
1142
00:52:32,568 --> 00:52:39,409
of amazing Floyd albums animals very
1143
00:52:36,650 --> 00:52:41,599
successful musically I see a little bit
1144
00:52:39,409 --> 00:52:44,719
more tugging and pulling you here can
1145
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:47,210
hear a little bit of that as well and
1146
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,469
animals were particularly bearing you
1147
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:49,880
know there was there was some real
1148
00:52:48,469 --> 00:52:52,038
attacks going on
1149
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,740
it was always brave whatever the Floyd
1150
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,640
did was always just we're gonna do this
1151
00:52:53,739 --> 00:52:56,689
you know whether it was against the
1152
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,038
record company whether it was against
1153
00:52:56,690 --> 00:52:59,809
the government whether it was against
1154
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:01,819
the tower in the fashion they just did
1155
00:52:59,809 --> 00:53:04,310
it and I think that's really one of the
1156
00:53:01,818 --> 00:53:06,849
things that made them so successful
1157
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:06,849
No
1158
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:11,690
the live shows were becoming
1159
00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:14,900
increasingly elaborate this trend would
1160
00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:18,440
culminate in the spectacle of the world
1161
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:21,260
released in November 1979 the wall was
1162
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:24,349
produced by Bob Ezrin ezrin hugely
1163
00:53:21,260 --> 00:53:26,210
deserves his producer's credit but it's
1164
00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:28,489
the chief architect of the album the
1165
00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:31,280
majority of plaudits were rightfully
1166
00:53:28,489 --> 00:53:33,409
channel towards Roger Waters who fully
1167
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,740
deserved the praise for his part in
1168
00:53:33,409 --> 00:53:38,989
creating what is still a milestone in
1169
00:53:36,739 --> 00:53:40,339
rock music well the war has been called
1170
00:53:38,989 --> 00:53:42,559
one of the most successful and most
1171
00:53:40,340 --> 00:53:44,450
imaginative rock albums of the the whole
1172
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:44,779
rock era you know the 60 seventies and
1173
00:53:44,449 --> 00:53:47,210
eighties
1174
00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:49,910
because it did combine not just a
1175
00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:52,460
concept in terms of music on songs and
1176
00:53:49,909 --> 00:53:54,859
lyrics but also a visual concept as well
1177
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:58,099
it lends itself to a much bigger more
1178
00:53:54,860 --> 00:54:00,230
experimental project so the wall kind of
1179
00:53:58,099 --> 00:54:02,690
grew and grew really became a big
1180
00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:07,369
monster out of control it was a very big
1181
00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:08,780
undertaking and it was very very well
1182
00:54:07,369 --> 00:54:12,699
done and was done to a very high
1183
00:54:08,780 --> 00:54:17,570
standard elegant powerfully affecting
1184
00:54:12,699 --> 00:54:19,460
but hugely negative in its content I
1185
00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:21,800
mean that has to be said that you know
1186
00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:24,740
if you look at the lyrics if you read
1187
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,690
the subtext of what's going on you just
1188
00:54:24,739 --> 00:54:30,829
go out and slashy wrists
1189
00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:32,000
I mean Sid appears in the wall a lot you
1190
00:54:30,829 --> 00:54:33,679
know which is where you know in the
1191
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,489
movie where the cigarette burns down
1192
00:54:33,679 --> 00:54:40,250
between the fingers well I went into the
1193
00:54:37,489 --> 00:54:44,989
room and saw that my friendship with him
1194
00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:49,380
and his illness combined
1195
00:54:44,989 --> 00:54:54,389
yeah provided an enormous
1196
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:56,940
opportunity for grief it's sad it's very
1197
00:54:54,389 --> 00:54:59,190
sad I'm still very sad about it with the
1198
00:54:56,940 --> 00:55:00,929
wall he was expressing all the bricks on
1199
00:54:59,190 --> 00:55:03,900
the wall were all the things in his life
1200
00:55:00,929 --> 00:55:05,940
that upset him or made him the way was
1201
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,190
that was the thing that they played on I
1202
00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:10,110
think this was largely from Rogers sense
1203
00:55:08,190 --> 00:55:12,450
of alienation he was a he was an uneasy
1204
00:55:10,110 --> 00:55:15,480
pop star I think it was fair to say and
1205
00:55:12,449 --> 00:55:17,669
he had sort of doubts about his role in
1206
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,949
some ways you know none at all in others
1207
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:22,139
rising tensions between Roger Waters and
1208
00:55:19,949 --> 00:55:24,719
Rick Wright led to the keyboard player
1209
00:55:22,139 --> 00:55:26,549
being sacked none of them had made any
1210
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,519
money from the wall the wall had been
1211
00:55:26,550 --> 00:55:31,530
such an expensive production the only
1212
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:33,840
person ironically who made him money was
1213
00:55:31,530 --> 00:55:36,210
Rick Wright the original keyboards
1214
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,400
player who had been involved in the
1215
00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:39,630
production of the wall or wanted to be
1216
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,840
involved in the production of the wall
1217
00:55:39,630 --> 00:55:45,300
but allegedly was not very active in
1218
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,130
that role and and Roger Waters had
1219
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:48,990
demanded that he be fired from the group
1220
00:55:47,130 --> 00:55:50,789
then they realized that they haven't got
1221
00:55:48,989 --> 00:55:53,849
anywhere to play keyboards or the state
1222
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:55,559
so they get him back in on a wage so in
1223
00:55:53,849 --> 00:55:58,230
fact he is actually the only member of
1224
00:55:55,559 --> 00:56:00,570
Pink Floyd to make any money out of the
1225
00:55:58,230 --> 00:56:03,469
wall the live shows which promoted the
1226
00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:05,820
album were an unforgettable experience
1227
00:56:03,469 --> 00:56:08,549
ambitious in their scope and their
1228
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:11,370
staging waters themes of alienation and
1229
00:56:08,550 --> 00:56:13,590
separation took physical form with the
1230
00:56:11,369 --> 00:56:15,119
creation of a real wall and we're going
1231
00:56:13,590 --> 00:56:17,640
to see the show at the Earls Court in
1232
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:19,199
London I'm watching the slow process of
1233
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:21,539
building the brick wall which goes on
1234
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:23,219
throughout the entire show gradually
1235
00:56:21,539 --> 00:56:24,960
laying this line of bricks and think
1236
00:56:23,219 --> 00:56:26,489
what are they doing how's it all going
1237
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,119
to resolve and of course gradually the
1238
00:56:26,489 --> 00:56:31,829
band Sapir behind me a huge barrier
1239
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:34,440
another final moments a whole lot has
1240
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:36,299
destroyed and smashed to pieces and
1241
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,280
larger realizes that maybe it's not a
1242
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:40,500
good idea psychologically speaking to
1243
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,230
forever a mental barrier inside your
1244
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:46,079
head well I think back I think wow there
1245
00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:47,820
was quite a big show and I and it's very
1246
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:49,469
impressive that Roger could actually put
1247
00:56:47,820 --> 00:56:51,630
that sort of thing together technically
1248
00:56:49,469 --> 00:56:53,279
to make it work building the wall and
1249
00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:55,079
knocking it down written into the
1250
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,330
structure of the show was the nature of
1251
00:56:55,079 --> 00:57:03,150
what they termed the surrogate bat so
1252
00:56:57,329 --> 00:57:04,529
for instance the show opens with a thing
1253
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:06,510
that is largely instrumentalists are
1254
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:09,630
certainly a big bombastic instrumental
1255
00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:12,300
opening then the light goes down at the
1256
00:57:09,630 --> 00:57:17,430
end of the song the band's freeze the
1257
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:19,289
image the Lancaster bomber or something
1258
00:57:17,429 --> 00:57:21,329
flies over the head of the crowd the
1259
00:57:19,289 --> 00:57:23,070
lights come up on a stage that's higher
1260
00:57:21,329 --> 00:57:24,299
than the stage that they've just seen
1261
00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:26,280
the Pink Floyd play the opening number
1262
00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:28,019
and they're on the higher stage who's
1263
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Pink Floyd playing the second number so
1264
00:57:28,019 --> 00:57:32,789
it's like hang on you know that was Ben
1265
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,680
Floyd down there and that was the
1266
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:35,940
illusion that they constantly played on
1267
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:38,219
and they used what they turned the
1268
00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:44,159
surrogate band which was myself Andy
1269
00:57:38,219 --> 00:57:46,619
Bowne Willie Wilson and Pete wood as the
1270
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:52,159
surrogates and we were given latex masks
1271
00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:55,109
and made to look exactly like Pink Floyd
1272
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:57,750
Jones cough as I understand it created
1273
00:57:55,110 --> 00:58:01,470
the whole show entirely from the the
1274
00:57:57,750 --> 00:58:02,610
visuals to the animatronics to the stage
1275
00:58:01,469 --> 00:58:05,219
in of it you know that that was his
1276
00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:05,870
vision more than Roger Waters is massive
1277
00:58:05,219 --> 00:58:08,819
puppets
1278
00:58:05,869 --> 00:58:12,150
things that was sort of you know 30-foot
1279
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:13,980
high and string puppets that would walk
1280
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:15,750
across the stage that the school teacher
1281
00:58:13,980 --> 00:58:18,389
for another brick in the war was this
1282
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:20,250
giant puppet with car headlights for
1283
00:58:18,389 --> 00:58:22,889
eyes it's a big show and the musicians
1284
00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:24,269
are just one you know a few small cogs
1285
00:58:22,889 --> 00:58:25,859
in a big machine there's a lot more
1286
00:58:24,269 --> 00:58:27,989
going on and you just make sure you get
1287
00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:29,730
your power right any note that Pink
1288
00:58:27,989 --> 00:58:32,069
Floyd could have played live was played
1289
00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:35,880
life I mean that was the bottom line
1290
00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:37,860
basically musically the orchestral
1291
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,360
pieces and things like the children's
1292
00:58:37,860 --> 00:58:42,180
voices in another brick you know we
1293
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,140
don't need no education that stuff was
1294
00:58:42,179 --> 00:58:47,919
pre-recorded dabbas on tapes over
1295
00:58:44,139 --> 00:58:50,230
all had to be basically played in times
1296
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:53,409
it was all linked into special effects
1297
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:54,699
and click tracks and you know film and
1298
00:58:53,409 --> 00:58:58,019
that's everything had to be down to the
1299
00:58:54,699 --> 00:58:59,889
last second most of the time the basic
1300
00:58:58,019 --> 00:59:01,239
structure of the whole of the first half
1301
00:58:59,889 --> 00:59:02,859
of the show was the building of the wall
1302
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,449
up to the point where the final brick
1303
00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:07,630
goes in and suddenly the house lights
1304
00:59:04,449 --> 00:59:09,879
come up and the audience realizes that
1305
00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:12,579
this vast structure you know it suddenly
1306
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:15,340
hits the pie cart look at that you know
1307
00:59:12,579 --> 00:59:17,199
this is 150 foot across 60 foot high
1308
00:59:15,340 --> 00:59:19,000
wherever it was you know is this vast
1309
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:21,759
structure has been built in 45 minutes
1310
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,920
but in order to get to that point there
1311
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,260
was a piece of music built in just
1312
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,680
before the goodbye cruel world where
1313
00:59:26,260 --> 00:59:32,380
David and I would just trade rifts to
1314
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:34,119
give the wall builders time to get those
1315
00:59:32,380 --> 00:59:35,650
last bricks in some nights it was slow
1316
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:38,259
some nights you know they really had to
1317
00:59:35,650 --> 00:59:40,690
move fast and we were play for three or
1318
00:59:38,260 --> 00:59:42,790
four minutes when we got the tear down
1319
00:59:40,690 --> 00:59:46,900
the wall section I was standing inside a
1320
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:49,960
cage on state behind the wall as the
1321
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:52,300
wall came down and inside the cage with
1322
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,849
me were roadies who were holding the
1323
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:56,890
cage up as these bricks were hammering
1324
00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:59,259
down on it and it was playing the guitar
1325
00:59:56,889 --> 01:00:02,409
riff for the tear down the walls section
1326
00:59:59,260 --> 01:00:04,840
and it was unbelievable and you would
1327
01:00:02,409 --> 01:00:06,699
have a count down on the monitors as the
1328
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,900
when the first bricks were going to come
1329
01:00:06,699 --> 01:00:09,519
because if you didn't have that warning
1330
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:11,050
you would you know you just stopped
1331
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:13,269
playing it was so frightening
1332
01:00:11,050 --> 01:00:14,470
I think The Legend of that show is built
1333
01:00:13,269 --> 01:00:17,739
up because there's such a tremendous
1334
01:00:14,469 --> 01:00:19,719
cachet to having been there and to
1335
01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:21,639
having experienced it because you know
1336
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:23,109
wasn't this vast touring circus that
1337
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:25,989
went around the world for three years
1338
01:00:23,110 --> 01:00:27,610
it's 29 shows four locations that's it
1339
01:00:25,989 --> 01:00:29,019
you know see you later
1340
01:00:27,610 --> 01:00:30,940
I knew that there were tensions in the
1341
01:00:29,019 --> 01:00:33,820
bat very interestingly Beck's Asia Earls
1342
01:00:30,940 --> 01:00:36,730
Court there were four caravans in a sort
1343
01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:38,410
of Square and three of them faced into
1344
01:00:36,730 --> 01:00:41,349
the middle of the square Rogers face the
1345
01:00:38,409 --> 01:00:44,529
other way so he didn't socialize whether
1346
01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:46,630
see now he came to the bar in
1347
01:00:44,530 --> 01:00:49,750
or the other three were always there
1348
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:51,760
after the gig you know few scoops chats
1349
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:52,869
and whether it was going well of what
1350
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,160
could be better and you know those
1351
01:00:52,869 --> 01:00:55,480
things that anybody would talk about
1352
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:57,579
Africa but you know saw Roger
1353
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:00,130
it was very much its swan song and the
1354
01:00:57,579 --> 01:01:02,319
thing was sort of corroding really
1355
01:01:00,130 --> 01:01:03,700
Allen Parker was going to shoot concept
1356
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,769
movie and there were going to be
1357
01:01:03,699 --> 01:01:07,839
dramatic highlights cut in with the
1358
01:01:05,769 --> 01:01:09,460
story that became ultimately the story
1359
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,680
of the entire movie the the thing with
1360
01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:14,050
Geldof and you know the no eyebrows
1361
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:16,839
character and pink you know it was just
1362
01:01:14,050 --> 01:01:18,519
a big rag doll in in our show and then
1363
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,920
they just jettisoned the notion of the
1364
01:01:18,519 --> 01:01:23,940
concert at all but they filmed every
1365
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:26,289
night at Earls Court for five nights
1366
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:28,019
multi camera shoots I mean people
1367
01:01:26,289 --> 01:01:30,639
everywhere well some people have called
1368
01:01:28,019 --> 01:01:34,869
the wall of a movie which came out in
1369
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:37,809
1982 directed by Alan Parker a one huge
1370
01:01:34,869 --> 01:01:41,619
clip in other words lots of repetition
1371
01:01:37,809 --> 01:01:43,539
and not really focused as a movie my
1372
01:01:41,619 --> 01:01:44,949
overwhelming feeling really was of
1373
01:01:43,539 --> 01:01:46,269
disappointment I hoped it was going to
1374
01:01:44,949 --> 01:01:47,980
be a concert movie and I didn't really
1375
01:01:46,269 --> 01:01:50,259
know that it wasn't until I went to see
1376
01:01:47,980 --> 01:01:52,119
the film and I the other thing was that
1377
01:01:50,260 --> 01:01:56,110
I thought it was a shame that they
1378
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:59,380
didn't make more of the music they used
1379
01:01:56,110 --> 01:02:02,289
the album and just remixed bits of the
1380
01:01:59,380 --> 01:02:04,720
album rather than actually approach it
1381
01:02:02,289 --> 01:02:08,259
again from scratch the bigger criticism
1382
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:09,989
I would make is is that the movie itself
1383
01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:12,550
if you compare it with with another
1384
01:02:09,989 --> 01:02:15,869
album that made it onto the big screen
1385
01:02:12,550 --> 01:02:18,010
like that who's Tommy there's this
1386
01:02:15,869 --> 01:02:21,190
there's a lack of humor really in
1387
01:02:18,010 --> 01:02:24,850
self-parody it's all very very intense I
1388
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:27,309
mean it is all on one level and it is
1389
01:02:24,849 --> 01:02:28,779
very extreme but I guess it had to be
1390
01:02:27,309 --> 01:02:30,909
you know there that was that was the
1391
01:02:28,780 --> 01:02:33,760
wall you know that was the concept the
1392
01:02:30,909 --> 01:02:36,449
wall always repays the listener with new
1393
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,830
insights into an amazing creation a
1394
01:02:36,449 --> 01:02:41,349
magnificent achievement which stretches
1395
01:02:38,829 --> 01:02:43,509
the horizons of Pink Floyd's musical
1396
01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:46,179
scope to include a worldwide hit single
1397
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:49,030
an ingenious Gilbert and Sullivan
1398
01:02:46,179 --> 01:02:52,319
pastiche and two genuine highlights from
1399
01:02:49,030 --> 01:02:55,089
the Floyd repertoire run like hell and
1400
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:57,170
comfortably numb'
1401
01:02:55,088 --> 01:02:59,059
david gilmour came up with a song
1402
01:02:57,170 --> 01:03:01,190
comfortably numb' the fact that it did
1403
01:02:59,059 --> 01:03:04,549
sneak onto the album opposite if if
1404
01:03:01,190 --> 01:03:06,740
indeed that was the case was was was of
1405
01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:09,950
great credit to Dave Gilmour really and
1406
01:03:06,739 --> 01:03:12,858
because obviously to interrupt Roger
1407
01:03:09,949 --> 01:03:16,129
Waters is you know tunnel vision about
1408
01:03:12,858 --> 01:03:18,108
that record whose amazing thing in
1409
01:03:16,130 --> 01:03:19,550
itself in a strange kind of way it's
1410
01:03:18,108 --> 01:03:21,529
almost like their greatest hits album
1411
01:03:19,550 --> 01:03:23,869
because you've got these much sort of
1412
01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:26,420
tighter pieces of writing much more
1413
01:03:23,869 --> 01:03:29,088
controlled it's it's less of the very
1414
01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:32,269
long expensive dark side of the moon
1415
01:03:29,088 --> 01:03:34,068
sort of a continuous and saga it gave
1416
01:03:32,269 --> 01:03:36,619
them the chance to produce hit singles
1417
01:03:34,068 --> 01:03:38,029
which took everybody by surprise as far
1418
01:03:36,619 --> 01:03:40,190
as the strength of music is concerned
1419
01:03:38,030 --> 01:03:42,710
with the wall obviously with tracks like
1420
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:44,300
comfortably numb' and not the brick in
1421
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:47,900
the wall part two you can't you can't
1422
01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:52,670
say anything about strong and I think
1423
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:55,130
the strangest thing is that the room to
1424
01:03:52,670 --> 01:03:57,680
me does sound a little bit like a
1425
01:03:55,130 --> 01:03:59,240
soundtrack album I think when he
1426
01:03:57,679 --> 01:04:04,309
initially bought their album you felt
1427
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:06,169
that it wasn't quite a whole in itself
1428
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:09,108
was just it was it was an element and
1429
01:04:06,170 --> 01:04:13,590
you needed to bolt on the other bits and
1430
01:04:09,108 --> 01:04:15,480
pieces to get the full floyd experience
1431
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:17,519
with the departure of Richard Wright
1432
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,949
Pink Floyd began the eighties as a
1433
01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:22,259
three-piece with Roger Waters as the
1434
01:04:19,949 --> 01:04:24,689
real power in the band this
1435
01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:27,150
disproportionate spoiler control was
1436
01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:30,510
evident in the next album the final cut
1437
01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:32,519
released back in March 1983 the
1438
01:04:30,510 --> 01:04:35,220
overriding impression from this Schill
1439
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:39,349
favorite outing is one of a Roger Waters
1440
01:04:35,219 --> 01:04:41,099
solo album the credits tell you very
1441
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:44,219
categorically that this is a Roger
1442
01:04:41,099 --> 01:04:47,309
Waters work and the fact that he didn't
1443
01:04:44,219 --> 01:04:49,769
really involve the others really showed
1444
01:04:47,309 --> 01:04:51,480
his disinterest in keeping the group
1445
01:04:49,769 --> 01:04:53,730
going the final cut
1446
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,920
dwell Zahn the politics and social
1447
01:04:53,730 --> 01:04:58,409
landscape of Britain in the early 1980s
1448
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,269
the focus is incredibly narrow and
1449
01:04:58,409 --> 01:05:02,429
kurama's be lifted from an editorial
1450
01:05:00,269 --> 01:05:05,489
meeting of the Guardian Roger's
1451
01:05:02,429 --> 01:05:07,739
newspaper of choice the atmosphere of
1452
01:05:05,489 --> 01:05:10,619
the album is relentlessly downbeat and
1453
01:05:07,739 --> 01:05:12,449
with no melodic or instrumental relief
1454
01:05:10,619 --> 01:05:15,239
the darkness and bitterness are
1455
01:05:12,449 --> 01:05:19,619
overwhelming what is different is that
1456
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:22,579
that Bob Ezrin had been dismissed from
1457
01:05:19,619 --> 01:05:24,989
the camp because he'd he had
1458
01:05:22,579 --> 01:05:28,049
inadvertently told an American
1459
01:05:24,989 --> 01:05:31,289
journalist that that's the the finale of
1460
01:05:28,050 --> 01:05:33,420
the wall stage show would involve it
1461
01:05:31,289 --> 01:05:36,599
basically being demolished
1462
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:38,849
so he's replaced by Michael Kaman who's
1463
01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:40,170
capable who's a great catalyst he's one
1464
01:05:38,849 --> 01:05:43,019
of those people who can bring everyone
1465
01:05:40,170 --> 01:05:46,740
together and his energy in the studio on
1466
01:05:43,019 --> 01:05:48,599
final cut was very important so he could
1467
01:05:46,739 --> 01:05:49,979
have badgered I mean if he's such an up
1468
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:51,779
figure you could imagine it could have
1469
01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:53,969
been a lot even more down than it
1470
01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:56,100
already is if he hadn't been there Pink
1471
01:05:53,969 --> 01:05:58,529
Floyd never turd with the final cut
1472
01:05:56,099 --> 01:06:01,980
really because I think no one wanted to
1473
01:05:58,530 --> 01:06:04,380
turn particularly Roger Waters didn't
1474
01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:06,090
want to turn he really seemed to want to
1475
01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:08,130
get out of the whole thing at that point
1476
01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:10,079
there is a strong feeling that we are
1477
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:11,910
revisiting exactly the same somatic
1478
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:13,889
landscape as the war with its
1479
01:06:11,909 --> 01:06:16,469
exploration of the damaging effect of
1480
01:06:13,889 --> 01:06:18,960
the sacrifices made in war we are very
1481
01:06:16,469 --> 01:06:20,669
much stuck in the same territory well if
1482
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,980
you look at something you know peace
1483
01:06:20,670 --> 01:06:24,809
a piece of music like the war you're
1484
01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:25,929
hardly going to better that so
1485
01:06:24,809 --> 01:06:28,029
everything is going to be dead
1486
01:06:25,929 --> 01:06:31,690
from there no matter what you try at
1487
01:06:28,030 --> 01:06:33,130
least for a short period of time so when
1488
01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:34,450
you bring something out like the final
1489
01:06:33,130 --> 01:06:37,869
cut I think it's going to look at it in
1490
01:06:34,449 --> 01:06:39,669
that context I think it's on recorders
1491
01:06:37,869 --> 01:06:41,410
as we going down that a lot of the
1492
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:43,780
pieces were leftover pieces from the war
1493
01:06:41,409 --> 01:06:46,598
which is where Dave Gilmour got a little
1494
01:06:43,780 --> 01:06:47,920
upset with things even the photograph on
1495
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:50,470
the album sleeve that the soldier
1496
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,329
holding film cans was been cleanly
1497
01:06:50,469 --> 01:06:54,699
knifed in the back has been widely
1498
01:06:52,329 --> 01:06:56,559
interpreted as a reference to Rogers
1499
01:06:54,699 --> 01:07:01,480
frustrations of the creation of the
1500
01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:05,079
memory a significant aspect of the final
1501
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:08,760
cut is that Pink Floyd no longer used
1502
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:12,220
hypnosis to design the cover instead
1503
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:15,490
Roger Waters and there decides that he
1504
01:07:12,219 --> 01:07:17,500
will design the cover himself there by
1505
01:07:15,489 --> 01:07:18,068
almost proving that it's just a Roger
1506
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,588
Waters
1507
01:07:18,068 --> 01:07:22,539
solo album the final cut is certainly
1508
01:07:20,588 --> 01:07:25,509
not a brilliant album it's brilliantly
1509
01:07:22,539 --> 01:07:27,338
played brutally executed but it does
1510
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:31,109
lack the feel of things for instance
1511
01:07:27,338 --> 01:07:34,458
like back side of the moon
1512
01:07:31,108 --> 01:07:37,889
and to a lot of people of course the war
1513
01:07:34,458 --> 01:07:40,139
and so on but I think the album stood
1514
01:07:37,889 --> 01:07:41,998
the test of time extremely well when you
1515
01:07:40,139 --> 01:07:43,788
listen to it today I think it's a more
1516
01:07:41,998 --> 01:07:46,348
valid piece today because it is a
1517
01:07:43,789 --> 01:07:49,349
historical document at the time not just
1518
01:07:46,349 --> 01:07:51,390
of Roger Waters you know creating a
1519
01:07:49,349 --> 01:07:53,818
testament to his father but it's
1520
01:07:51,389 --> 01:07:55,318
actually a sign of the times in the 80s
1521
01:07:53,818 --> 01:07:58,469
for which most of us we can remember
1522
01:07:55,318 --> 01:08:01,048
quite well as a result of a dispute with
1523
01:07:58,469 --> 01:08:03,208
manager Steve O'Rourke Roger Waters
1524
01:08:01,048 --> 01:08:04,409
wrote to the record companies informing
1525
01:08:03,208 --> 01:08:07,498
them that he would no longer be
1526
01:08:04,409 --> 01:08:08,998
recording with Pink Floyd waters clearly
1527
01:08:07,498 --> 01:08:12,419
felt that this maneuver would signal the
1528
01:08:08,998 --> 01:08:14,308
end of the group Rodgers saw it as the
1529
01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:16,139
final cut you know that's the titleist
1530
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:17,219
since the end of Floyd and he probably
1531
01:08:16,139 --> 01:08:20,279
thought that's what was going to happen
1532
01:08:17,219 --> 01:08:24,270
of course it would he's absolutely
1533
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:27,690
shocked when he learns that the other
1534
01:08:24,270 --> 01:08:29,880
two members as they then were Dave
1535
01:08:27,689 --> 01:08:31,858
Gilmour and Nick Mason intend to carry
1536
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,920
on with the group's name but he only
1537
01:08:31,859 --> 01:08:37,230
learns this when he essentially issues
1538
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,239
them with legal papers saying that the
1539
01:08:37,229 --> 01:08:42,088
group is to be disbanded and the name is
1540
01:08:39,238 --> 01:08:44,399
to exist no more the final chance
1541
01:08:42,088 --> 01:08:47,250
despite everything Morris could throw at
1542
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:49,738
him Gilmour and Mason emerged victorious
1543
01:08:47,250 --> 01:08:52,529
they had won the right to use the Pink
1544
01:08:49,738 --> 01:08:54,959
Floyd name and in a further calculated
1545
01:08:52,529 --> 01:08:56,969
snub to waters they hooked up again with
1546
01:08:54,960 --> 01:09:01,109
Richard Wright and produced a new album
1547
01:08:56,969 --> 01:09:03,989
backed by a huge world tour for legal
1548
01:09:01,109 --> 01:09:05,639
and tax reasons Richard Wright was not
1549
01:09:03,988 --> 01:09:08,009
officially a full member of the band
1550
01:09:05,639 --> 01:09:10,650
again despite the fact that he was a
1551
01:09:08,009 --> 01:09:13,380
founder member legally Floyd when our
1552
01:09:10,649 --> 01:09:15,108
duo with a hired keyboard player on
1553
01:09:13,380 --> 01:09:18,260
wages
1554
01:09:15,109 --> 01:09:20,350
the album which emerged was entitled a
1555
01:09:18,260 --> 01:09:22,640
momentary lapse of reason and
1556
01:09:20,350 --> 01:09:23,720
demonstrated there was still plenty of
1557
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,820
life in the band
1558
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,890
even without waters I think moment
1559
01:09:25,819 --> 01:09:30,139
relapse a reason was a fantastic rebirth
1560
01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:32,030
the band wrote relapse the reason
1561
01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:33,920
certainly did breathe new life into the
1562
01:09:32,029 --> 01:09:36,979
group I mean it got them up and running
1563
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:38,750
again on actually a much larger scale
1564
01:09:36,979 --> 01:09:40,549
than previously there was a huge
1565
01:09:38,750 --> 01:09:42,529
appetite for Pink Floyd's music and a
1566
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:44,119
colossal amount of goodwill the fans
1567
01:09:42,529 --> 01:09:46,159
really wanted something which sounded
1568
01:09:44,119 --> 01:09:48,289
like the Floyd of old and sensing the
1569
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:50,569
mood David Gilmour was able to produce
1570
01:09:48,289 --> 01:09:52,869
an album which just about passed muster
1571
01:09:50,569 --> 01:09:55,340
although the estranged Roger Waters
1572
01:09:52,869 --> 01:09:58,609
notoriously dismissed the album as a
1573
01:09:55,340 --> 01:10:01,550
facsimile of the Floyd sound I think it
1574
01:09:58,609 --> 01:10:04,519
was a sort of a it was modest obviously
1575
01:10:01,550 --> 01:10:07,909
a very much hid in the in the Pink Floyd
1576
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:10,130
style but I think really was a sort of a
1577
01:10:07,909 --> 01:10:12,050
transition for for David who was very
1578
01:10:10,130 --> 01:10:15,319
much at the helm was particularly at
1579
01:10:12,050 --> 01:10:17,900
that point of doing if he was it kind of
1580
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:20,059
set up I'm sure he didn't by me saying
1581
01:10:17,899 --> 01:10:22,309
so really in a way but obviously
1582
01:10:20,060 --> 01:10:24,200
including the advertising and the band
1583
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:26,450
but because they'd been I don't know
1584
01:10:24,199 --> 01:10:28,069
seven eight years as ever got elapsed
1585
01:10:26,449 --> 01:10:31,779
since they've done it it was kind of
1586
01:10:28,069 --> 01:10:34,699
that very much kind of a fresh take on
1587
01:10:31,779 --> 01:10:36,949
Bob Ezrin is brought back for momentary
1588
01:10:34,699 --> 01:10:38,960
lapse of reason obviously to her
1589
01:10:36,949 --> 01:10:40,819
supporters is never liked her and so
1590
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,710
there's no problems and he's you know
1591
01:10:40,819 --> 01:10:44,659
he's a proven commodity it's been proven
1592
01:10:42,710 --> 01:10:47,840
he works he's almost second to none as a
1593
01:10:44,659 --> 01:10:49,340
producer anyway and I think it's the
1594
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,650
results speak for themselves
1595
01:10:49,340 --> 01:10:53,750
Pink Floyd began an enormous trek around
1596
01:10:51,649 --> 01:10:56,989
the stadiums of Europe and North America
1597
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:59,779
playing to huge crowds which easily
1598
01:10:56,989 --> 01:11:03,170
eclipsed the thin crowds which attended
1599
01:10:59,779 --> 01:11:06,289
waters solo tour ice by chance got asked
1600
01:11:03,170 --> 01:11:08,149
to do roger waters first solo tour the
1601
01:11:06,289 --> 01:11:12,470
pros and cons of hitch hiking so I've
1602
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:15,259
done that and I suppose that kind of put
1603
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:16,730
me in in a bit of a you know kind of who
1604
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:19,400
should we get to play rhythm guitar ah
1605
01:11:16,729 --> 01:11:21,259
he seems to be alright you know so I've
1606
01:11:19,399 --> 01:11:23,119
actually got a call to do that much to
1607
01:11:21,260 --> 01:11:25,039
my surprise I think David rang me
1608
01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:27,140
personally to start with it was the very
1609
01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:29,239
first sort of introduc
1610
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just to see you know what I'd like to be
1611
01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:33,739
involved and obviously I was you know
1612
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,869
sounds like a fantastic idea initially
1613
01:11:33,739 --> 01:11:38,210
was a belief plan to just go out for a
1614
01:11:35,869 --> 01:11:39,619
number of weeks just in America and they
1615
01:11:38,210 --> 01:11:41,210
weren't really quite sure how it was
1616
01:11:39,619 --> 01:11:44,390
going to all go but it very quickly
1617
01:11:41,210 --> 01:11:47,029
became apparent that some that's a lot
1618
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:48,710
of demand for it so he came to it
1619
01:11:47,029 --> 01:11:50,989
changed from a sound of a few weeks in
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01:11:48,710 --> 01:11:54,310
America to what will ended up to 16
1621
01:11:50,989 --> 01:11:59,840
months around the world twice basically
1622
01:11:54,310 --> 01:12:01,430
huge life-changing thing there were
1623
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:06,980
great sort of come camraderie within the
1624
01:12:01,430 --> 01:12:09,860
back instantly very well both very good
1625
01:12:06,979 --> 01:12:12,529
very very friendly balance of people at
1626
01:12:09,859 --> 01:12:14,869
the beginning of the tour only performed
1627
01:12:12,529 --> 01:12:17,329
that the new numbers from them momentary
1628
01:12:14,869 --> 01:12:19,970
lapse of reason and he hadn't really
1629
01:12:17,329 --> 01:12:23,689
been released in fact I think when we
1630
01:12:19,970 --> 01:12:26,329
when we started out we were released I
1631
01:12:23,689 --> 01:12:28,429
think that played the first few gigs my
1632
01:12:26,329 --> 01:12:30,380
album wasn't actually out so this plane
1633
01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:32,180
that people just didn't recognize this
1634
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:33,409
stuff at all they're given that the
1635
01:12:32,180 --> 01:12:34,789
response was fantastic
1636
01:12:33,409 --> 01:12:36,139
really he basically tried to keep each
1637
01:12:34,789 --> 01:12:38,539
other to two numbers obviously the
1638
01:12:36,140 --> 01:12:40,539
payment was more associated with and the
1639
01:12:38,539 --> 01:12:42,829
sang and contributed to the writing off
1640
01:12:40,539 --> 01:12:45,260
so that's sort of narrowed it down a
1641
01:12:42,829 --> 01:12:47,840
fair bit it's the best period for Pink
1642
01:12:45,260 --> 01:12:51,710
Floyd life that I have ever seen it went
1643
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,970
down so I'm pretty sure because most of
1644
01:12:51,710 --> 01:12:55,279
the public didn't really expect to ever
1645
01:12:52,970 --> 01:12:56,930
see people playing anything so it was
1646
01:12:55,279 --> 01:12:57,619
kind of a you know from out of nowhere
1647
01:12:56,930 --> 01:12:59,240
comes
1648
01:12:57,619 --> 01:13:01,489
well this baton didn't think we'd ever
1649
01:12:59,239 --> 01:13:04,519
see and and in the past they'd been very
1650
01:13:01,489 --> 01:13:05,899
very difficult to catch life so suddenly
1651
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,999
it became kind of available you know in
1652
01:13:05,899 --> 01:13:09,498
your town you know
1653
01:13:07,998 --> 01:13:11,389
a particularly America I mean the
1654
01:13:09,498 --> 01:13:14,358
response was fantastic before playing a
1655
01:13:11,389 --> 01:13:16,279
note a great deal of excitement and
1656
01:13:14,359 --> 01:13:19,669
anticipation and stuff going on the
1657
01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:22,549
Division Bell released in April 1994 was
1658
01:13:19,668 --> 01:13:25,429
an altogether superior effort careful
1659
01:13:22,548 --> 01:13:28,099
studied and mannered the album flows
1660
01:13:25,429 --> 01:13:30,859
together as a suite of songs there are
1661
01:13:28,099 --> 01:13:33,469
no dramatic dynamic peaks and troughs or
1662
01:13:30,859 --> 01:13:35,899
extremes of tempo but the smooth
1663
01:13:33,469 --> 01:13:38,628
majestic flow of the music worked its
1664
01:13:35,899 --> 01:13:40,969
magic on audiences on both sides of the
1665
01:13:38,628 --> 01:13:43,788
Atlantic and for the first time in
1666
01:13:40,969 --> 01:13:46,248
history Pink Floyd had an album which
1667
01:13:43,788 --> 01:13:47,658
went to number one in both Britain and
1668
01:13:46,248 --> 01:13:51,019
America
1669
01:13:47,658 --> 01:13:52,998
I love the Division Bell I just think
1670
01:13:51,019 --> 01:13:55,519
it's classic Floyd completely you know
1671
01:13:52,998 --> 01:13:59,729
you don't have necessarily the angry
1672
01:13:55,519 --> 01:14:01,980
side of earlier Floyd
1673
01:13:59,729 --> 01:14:04,459
Nick Mason and Rick Wright were now
1674
01:14:01,979 --> 01:14:07,738
fully functional and part of the team
1675
01:14:04,460 --> 01:14:10,500
but with Dave Gilmour not being a dab
1676
01:14:07,738 --> 01:14:13,079
hand at writing lyrics he enlisted the
1677
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:15,238
help of his wife to be Polly Sampson and
1678
01:14:13,079 --> 01:14:18,630
also Nick Laird clues of the dream
1679
01:14:15,238 --> 01:14:21,299
Academy to help him together with other
1680
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:23,159
collaborators the songwriting tended to
1681
01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:25,710
be a little diluted compared with
1682
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:28,349
previous efforts where momentary lapse
1683
01:14:25,710 --> 01:14:30,569
of reason had perhaps been a collection
1684
01:14:28,350 --> 01:14:34,200
of songs that he'd been unable to use in
1685
01:14:30,569 --> 01:14:38,219
the previous Pink Floyd lineup cluster1
1686
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:41,159
is a great example of exactly how good
1687
01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:44,239
this band could still be some 30 years
1688
01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:44,238
after his birth
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[Music]
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the tall which supported the album was
1691
01:14:53,170 --> 01:14:58,090
also something of a triumph it featured
1692
01:14:55,779 --> 01:15:00,279
an even better and more advanced light
1693
01:14:58,090 --> 01:15:03,670
show than anything which had gone before
1694
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:05,800
and pulse the live album taken from the
1695
01:15:03,670 --> 01:15:07,840
tour beautifully captured what was
1696
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,329
certainly a career highlight for Pink
1697
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,760
Floyd Richard Wright was also back in
1698
01:15:10,329 --> 01:15:15,670
the fold and as a full member of Pink
1699
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:17,140
Floyd in many respects it seemed as if
1700
01:15:15,670 --> 01:15:19,659
the band had reached the limits of its
1701
01:15:17,140 --> 01:15:21,969
creativity and in fact its commercial
1702
01:15:19,659 --> 01:15:22,479
success there was almost nowhere else to
1703
01:15:21,969 --> 01:15:24,909
go
1704
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,809
following the death of long-term manager
1705
01:15:24,909 --> 01:15:27,550
Steve O'Rourke
1706
01:15:25,810 --> 01:15:30,730
David Gilmour announced to the world
1707
01:15:27,550 --> 01:15:32,710
that he felt disinclined to continue to
1708
01:15:30,729 --> 01:15:36,579
carry the weight of the Floyd juggernaut
1709
01:15:32,710 --> 01:15:39,039
upon his shoulders if there ever was a
1710
01:15:36,579 --> 01:15:41,649
good example of the old adage that it's
1711
01:15:39,039 --> 01:15:44,170
best to quit at the top then this was it
1712
01:15:41,649 --> 01:15:46,929
Pink Floyd bowing out of the recording
1713
01:15:44,170 --> 01:15:49,420
studio in 1994 with a magnificent
1714
01:15:46,930 --> 01:15:52,180
best-selling album a gigantic or
1715
01:15:49,420 --> 01:15:54,730
inspiring live show a wonderful musical
1716
01:15:52,180 --> 01:15:57,520
legacy and an unmatched reputation for
1717
01:15:54,729 --> 01:16:01,569
excellence all left blissfully intact
1718
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:04,060
with no sad decline into mediocrity to
1719
01:16:01,569 --> 01:16:07,908
taint the brilliance
1720
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:07,909
[Music]
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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