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North Field, on the island
of Tinian, in the Marianas,
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1500 miles south of Japan.
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In the summer of 1945 this was
the biggest air base in the world.
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Here, on August 5,
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the world's first uranium bomb
was loaded into a B-29 bomber -
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named Enola Gay
after its pilot's mother.
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Next morning, before dawn,
the Enola Gay took off.
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Its target - Hiroshima.
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On April 12, 1945,
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Franklin Roosevelt, President
of the United States, died suddenly.
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The nation mourned its lost leader.
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He had brought them from the depths
of economic depression 12 years before,
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now he had led them
to the eve of victory in a world war.
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Two months before his death,
Roosevelt had been at Yalta, in Russia,
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laying the political foundations
of the post-war world.
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Roosevelt and Churchill wanted
to restore democracy to Eastern Europe,
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particularly Poland.
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They also asked Stalin to confirm that
Russia would join the war against Japan
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three months
after the defeat of Germany.
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In a cheerful atmosphere,
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the "big three" thought
they had reached agreement.
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Yalta was really
the high point of the relationship
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between the three men.
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Victory was in the air,
the Germans were in retreat,
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and so there was a good deal more talk,
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in addition to military matters,
of the future.
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Poland again became
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the most troublesome point.
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And it's interesting that
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both Roosevelt and Churchill
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felt they had an agreement with Stalin.
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The problem with Poland -
as with all Eastern Europe -
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was that the Western leaders wanted
a freely elected government there.
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The Soviets wanted a government
friendly to Russia.
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They thought the West
understood and accepted this.
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Poland, from their point of view, was
not going to be an outpost of the West-
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nor any of the Balkan countries.
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They thought they'd had
various agreements
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about spheres of influence
with Mr Churchill-
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if they left Greece
pretty much in British hands,
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they could have certain
proportional influences
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in Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria,
particularly Poland.
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My impression at Yalta
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was that the Russians thought
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we had in substance
accepted that demand.
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After Yalta,
Roosevelt lived for only two months.
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Even by then, he and Churchill
had become disillusioned
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by the interpretations the Russians
were putting on what was agreed there.
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The very, very tough exchange
of telegrams on both sides
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between Stalin and Roosevelt
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makes it very plain
that Roosevelt, before he died,
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knew that Stalin
was breaking his agreements.
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I think it went sour because
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the military developments
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strengthened Russia's hands
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and that where
the Russians had felt it necessary
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to be considerate of Western opinion
at Yalta,
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a few months later
they didn't feel any such necessity
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because the war was going so well
for them,
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and therefore they swept aside
some of the engagements they'd got into.
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That certainly applied
particularly about Poland.
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Roosevelt had been seen
as a friend by the Russians.
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His successor, Harry Truman,
was an unknown quantity -
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both to them and to his own advisers.
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I left, as soon as Roosevelt died,
to go back to see Mr Truman.
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I wanted to be sure
that President Truman
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understood the position
of our relationships,
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because there had been
so much euphoria in the air
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about the warm relationships
that existed with our gallant allies.
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And I got home within a week
of the time Roosevelt had died.
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I found, my first experience
with President Truman,
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I found he was an avid reader.
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I found he'd read all the telegrams
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and understood from those messages
the difficulties we were going to have.
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The arrival
of their foreign minister, Molotov,
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in Washington on April 23 gave Truman
a chance to prove, as he put it,
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that he would
"stand up to the Russians".
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Even as his arrival raised
hopes on the thorny Polish question,
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the world learned that Russia had
signed a 20-year pact of friendship
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with Poland's Warsaw government.
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This Polish government
had no pro-Western members.
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They were all pro-Soviet.
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The Western leaders
were angry and upset.
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Molotov saw Truman and his secretary of
state, Stettinius - Alger Hiss's boss.
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By that time...
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the Polish situation
had, to use a gentle word, crystallised.
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The Russians were moving forward.
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They seemed to be paying no attention
to the kind of provisional government
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that the British and Americans
had hoped for.
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Therefore protests - angry protests -
were going to the Russians about that.
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And Truman decided to have a showdown,
at which he was gifted.
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On that occasion, as you know from
what is now part of the history books,
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he accused Molotov, in effect,
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of violation of the agreements,
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as early as that.
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This was a strange thing to do in
the midst of a war, by no means yet won,
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with an important ally - but he did it.
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And it ended by Molotov saying:
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"I've never been talked to like this
in my life",
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and Truman saying: "Well, keep
your agreements and you won't be" -
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just like a schoolteacher.
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Stettinius, who'd been present, told me
the next morning - he was still shaken -
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he said, "I thought
the whole conference was off."
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Well, that was
an unfortunate conversation.
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It was one of the first diplomatic
conversations that Truman had,
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and I can only say that it was not
a diplomatic statement on Truman's part.
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He used good, solid Missouri language,
which was very definite,
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and Molotov had talked
to other people that way,
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but had had no one
talk to him that way.
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So he was very much upset,
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and I gained the impression that
he thought this was a new voice,
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not Roosevelt any more,
but a more aggressive president.
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When he was sworn in,
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Truman had said he would continue
Roosevelt's policies.
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But his sudden harshness with Molotov
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now worried the secretary of war,
Henry Stimson.
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The day after the confrontation,
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Stimson told Truman about something
he thought could transform
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America's dealings with Russia.
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Stimson's biographer, McGeorge Bundy.
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Stimson wrote to Truman,
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"I think it is very important
that I should have a talk with you
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as soon as possible
on a highly secret matter."
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"I mentioned it to you
shortly after you took office,
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but have not urged it since on account
of the pressure you've been under."
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"It, however, has such a bearing
on our present foreign relations
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and has such an important effect
upon all my thinking in this field,
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that I think you ought to know about it
without much further delay."
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The next day, April 25,
Stimson explained to Truman
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that his view of foreign policy -
Stimson's -
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was dominated by
the imminent prospect of atomic power,
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and the terms which might be got
from Russia
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in exchange for sharing atomic secrets.
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It was Truman's first
detailed news of the atomic bomb
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and its diplomatic potential.
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He asked Stimson to head a committee
to decide its military use.
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By this time, in great secrecy, two
kinds of atomic bomb had been developed,
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one based on uranium, the other
on a man-made element, plutonium.
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The uranium bomb did not need testing -
but there was only one.
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The plutonium bombs -
easier to produce in quantity -
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would have to be tested before use.
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The first would be ready by July.
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A special unit
of the American Air Force
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had begun practising
the tactics involved
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in dropping one very large bomb,
with great accuracy,
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then getting away as fast as possible.
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Its commander was Colonel Paul Tibbets.
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Up to this point,
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anything in the way of an error
in bombing up to 500 or 600 feet
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was considered good bombing.
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So I told them then: "if you have
a 100-foot error from 25,000 feet,
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you're just a borderline case."
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"I want it less than 100."
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I was told immediately,
"You can't do this."
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So I said, "I don't know why not."
They said, "Nobody's ever done it."
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I said, "That's no reason
why it can't be done."
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"Practice, they tell me, makes perfect."
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"So we'll practise and you'll practise
until you do it."
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From their forward bases
in the Mariana Islands,
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American B-29 bombers
were already attacking Japan's cities
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with more conventional weapons.
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To begin with, the results were poor.
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General Curtis LeMay developed a new
tactic: low-level incendiary raids.
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With aerial photography
you could outline a general area,
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but not precisely.
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You just couldn't avoid
doing collateral damage,
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and I'm sure we burned down
a lot of Japanese buildings
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that had nothing to do
with the war industry at all.
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This, of course, is one of the sad
things of war that can't be helped.
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On March 9, 1945, 2,000 tons
of incendiaries were dropped on Tokyo,
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destroying 16 square miles of the city.
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80,000 civilians died -
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more that night in Tokyo than
in the whole of England in the Blitz.
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Most suffocated in the firestorm.
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LeMay now attacked city after city.
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It looked as if the B-29s alone
might defeat Japan.
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It wasn't until
General Arnold asked the direct question
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"How long will the war last?",
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and then we sat down
and did some thinking about it,
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and it indicated that we would be
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pretty much out of targets
around 1 September,
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and with the targets gone,
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we couldn't see much of any war
going on at the time.
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By the spring of 1945
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Japan was helpless in the face
of American air and naval power.
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Most of the Japanese merchant fleet
and navy had been sunk.
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An effective blockade had cut off Japan
from her overseas army,
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grounded most of her air force
for lack of fuel,
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and threatened her population
with starvation.
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American fighter-bombers roamed at will,
backing up the devastating fire raids.
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Many Japanese politicians realised
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that their country
could not hold out much longer.
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April 1: American troops
land on Japanese soil -
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Okinawa, only 350 miles
from the mainland.
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They face fierce resistance.
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But as the battle starts,
the growing peace party in Japan
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secure the appointment of a new cabinet,
led by Admiral Suzuki.
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When the Suzuki cabinet
came into existence,
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the military situation was deplorable,
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and, moreover, the economic plight
of our nation was quite apparent.
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The military command...
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tried to squeeze the last drop,
so to speak, of the nation's blood,
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in order to prosecute harder
the useless war,
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but it became evident
to any sensible man
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that we were at the end of our tether.
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The younger officers
in the army, the extremists,
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thought that we should fight
to the bitter end,
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until every man had been killed.
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But the war minister, General Anami,
didn't agree.
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He thought that if we fought on
until the Americans invaded the mainland
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and then hit their forces hard
on the beaches once,
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we could then negotiate peace
on terms more favourable to Japan.
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But Truman would not negotiate.
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He told Congress so in May,
after Germany's defeat.
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Our demand has been,
and it remains, unconditional surrender.
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I want the entire world to know
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that this direction must and will remain
unchanged and unhampered.
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Truman now faced
two major problems:
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how to deal with the Russians in Europe,
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and whether to ask them to fulfil their
pledge to join the war against Japan.
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In Germany, Russian and Western troops
exchanged toasts,
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but already Churchill was sending
urgent messages to Truman
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warning that an iron curtain was being
drawn down in Europe by Russia.
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The "big three"
must meet quickly before, as he put it,
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"the armies of democracy melted".
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And Truman had a new secretary of state,
James Byrnes.
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Byrnes wanted to finish the war
against Japan
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before the Russians could join in
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and cause problems
for the West in Asia, too.
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It was ever-present in my mind
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that it was important
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that we should have an end to the war
before the Russians came in.
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But Stimson wanted to avoid
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hasty decisions in Europe
or the Far East
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before the bomb was ready.
He wrote to Truman:
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"Over any such tangled weave
of problems,
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the atomic secret would be dominant."
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"It seems a terrible thing to gamble
with such big stakes in diplomacy
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without having your master card
in your hand."
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Truman reassured Stimson -
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the "big three" meeting was postponed
until July 15
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on purpose "to give us more time".
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Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt's
close friend whom Stalin trusted,
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was sent to Moscow in May
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to take the heat temporarily
out of the Polish issue.
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He reported back
that he had smoothed things over.
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Stalin had also promised - unprompted -
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to join the war against Japan
on August 8.
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While Hopkins was in Moscow,
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Stimson's committee
reached its decision.
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The committee studying the atomic bomb
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unanimously recommended that it be used
as soon as possible, without warning,
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against a major
Japanese military establishment.
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Only this, Stimson thought,
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would provide the psychological blow
which might induce Japan to surrender.
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Although he agreed
with some of Truman's advisers
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that the Japanese
should be given an ultimatum
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which made it clear
they could keep the emperor,
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he opposed announcing this until
after the bomb had at least been tested.
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But after the war he wrote,
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"It is possible,
in the light of the final surrender,
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that a clearer and earlier exposition
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of American willingness
to retain the emperor
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could have produced
an earlier ending of the war."
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June 18: Washington.
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General Eisenhower is given a hero's
welcome after his victory in Europe.
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In the White House that day,
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Truman is asked to approve
his joint chiefs of staff's plans
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to invade Japan in November.
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We gathered up our papers
and started to go out,
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and Mr Truman spotted me and said:
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"Mr McCloy, nobody gets out of this room
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without expressing himself-
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everybody else has."
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"Do you think I have
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any other alternative?"
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I looked over at Colonel Stimson -
he liked to be called Colonel -
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he'd been colonel of a regiment
in World War I,
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rather than Secretary -
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I looked over at Stimson
and he nodded, he said, "Go ahead."
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So I started in,
and I said that I thought that
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we ought to have our heads examined
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if we didn't begin to think in terms
of a political culmination of the war
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rather than a military one.
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And I said I'd give them some terms -
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I'd send a message over to them,
I'd spell out the terms.
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And Mr Truman said, "Well, what
are your terms? What would you do?"
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I hadn't quite prepared for
the actual dictation
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of the surrender terms at that point,
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but I started in and I said,
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"In the first place,
I'd say you can have the mikado,
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but he's got to be
a constitutional monarch -
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you've got to have a representative
form of government."
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"You can have access to, but
not control over, foreign raw materials
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so you can have a viable economy..."
I spelled it out as best I could.
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"And I'd say,
'Besides that, we've got a new force,
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and it's in the form
of a new type of energy
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that will revolutionise warfare,
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destructive beyond any contemplation."
I said I'd mention the bomb.
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Well, mentioning the bomb, even
at that late date, in that select group,
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it was like they were all shocked
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because it was
such a closely guarded secret.
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It was comparable
to mentioning Skull and Bones at Yale,
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which you're not supposed to do.
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But Mr Truman said, "This is the sort
of thing I was trying to reach for -
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get that all spelled out."
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At that point Stimson did come in
and joined in support of my position,
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but then later on Mr Byrnes,
who was then secretary of state,
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who was not present,
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vetoed the idea
of offering them the mikado.
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One can only speculate
as to what would have happened
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if we had put the message
to the Japanese
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in the form that I indicated,
including the mikado.
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I always had the feeling, in view of
some of the information we've had since
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of the tendency on the part of some
of the real military hotheads in Japan,
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to think that this was perhaps
the best way out,
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that we might have been able
to avoid the dropping of the bomb.
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By this time,
the battle for Okinawa is almost over.
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12,000 Americans had died,
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a bloody foretaste of what invasion
of the mainland might cost.
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For the Japanese,
the lesson was harsher still.
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100,000 died,
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and, for the first time in the war,
their soldiers surrendered in thousands.
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As the last resistance ended,
on June 22,
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the new Japanese cabinet
made its first move towards peace.
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Ultimately,
we had to conduct negotiations
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with our military opponents -
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that is to say, America and Britain -
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but the high command
refused categorically
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to entertain any idea of
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starting conversations
with the enemy powers.
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The only great power left out
of the enemy camp was the Soviet Union,
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because of the fact that nominally
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there existed still the neutrality pact,
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and so this was the only window open
for peace endeavours -
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and this window looked
towards the north.
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And so we argued it out
with the military command,
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and the military command
finally, reluctantly,
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acceded to our request that we start
negotiations with the Soviet Union
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in order to arrive
at the final destination,
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which was Washington and London.
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But it was the Chinese
foreign minister, not the Japanese,
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that Stalin had been meeting.
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A huge Japanese army still occupied
parts of China, including Manchuria.
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The Russians and Chinese
were negotiating terms
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under which
Stalin would attack that army.
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When Truman sailed to Europe on July 7
to meet Stalin and Churchill,
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he knew, through intercepted messages,
that Japan wanted an end to the war,
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but not unconditional surrender.
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Truman and Byrnes
now had several options open to them -
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they could modify the surrender terms,
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they could encourage the Russians
to invade Manchuria,
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they could demonstrate the atomic bomb,
they could invade Japan itself.
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But Truman decided that he would drop
atomic bombs on Japan without warning.
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This alone, he hoped,
would end the Pacific war quickly,
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before the Russians joined in.
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And it would immensely strengthen
American bargaining power in Europe.
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The decision had already been taken
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when Truman arrived
for the "big three" meeting on July 15.
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The next morning, just before dawn,
at a remote desert site in New Mexico,
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Robert Oppenheimer and the team
that had built the bomb
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witnessed the first atomic explosion.
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I remembered
the line from the Hindu scripture,
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the Bhagavad-Gita:
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Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince
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that he should do his duty,
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and to impress him
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takes on his multi-armed form
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and says, "Now I am become death,
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the destroyer of worlds."
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I suppose we all thought that,
one way or another.
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The plutonium bomb exploded
with a force of 20,000 tons of TNT.
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The desert at the point of the explosion
was turned into glass.
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By July 1945
Japan's economy was crumbling
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and her cities were defenceless
against the B-29 raids.
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Although her army
remained virtually intact,
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Japan's war industries were smashed.
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One million civilians had died.
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Millions more were homeless.
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The US Air Force had no doubts
that surrender was only weeks away.
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It was a hopeless situation for 'em.
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The B-29s were flying over Japan at will
and they couldn't do anything about it.
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We could destroy any target at will
without much opposition.
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So with this hopeless situation
they were facing,
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they just didn't have the will
to continue.
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In fact, they'd been trying
to get out of the war
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for about three months
before they actually did.
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They'd asked the Russians
to be an intermediary,
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to try to negotiate them out of the war,
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and the Russians had been stalling till
they'd got the European war finished
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so they could get into the Pacific war
before it ended.
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Stalin and Molotov
refused to see the Japanese ambassador
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before they left Moscow for the last
"big three" meeting for ten years.
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Also at Potsdam
was Secretary of War Stimson.
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He passed on detailed news of
the atomic test to Truman and Byrnes -
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who, he noted in his diary,
were immensely pleased.
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"The president
was tremendously pepped up by it
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and spoke to me of it again and again
when I saw him."
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"He said it gave him
an entirely new feeling of confidence."
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And when Stimson told Churchill
about the successful test the next day,
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Churchill said he now understood
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how this pepping-up of Truman
had taken place
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and that he felt the same way.
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The British and Americans debated
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whether to tell the Russians
about the bomb.
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Some argued that its full weight
as a diplomatic lever
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would only become evident
after it had been dropped on Japan.
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After one of our meetings,
just as we adjourned,
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Truman went up
with his interpreter to Stalin
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and told him briefly
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what we had discovered
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and what the effect
of the atomic bomb would be.
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And all Stalin did was to nod his head
and say "Thank you" quite curtly,
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and his expression changed in no way
and that was all there was to it.
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It was a tremendous disappointment.
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We thought he would be flabbergasted
at this thing but he just passed it off.
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Whether he knew about it,
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whether he didn't want to show
any great emotion in regard to it,
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I don't know.
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All I know is that he took it
very much in his stride
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and, somewhat to our disappointment,
went on to the next item in the agenda.
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And this rather dismayed Stimson
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because he thought that,
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once having disclosed this,
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there would be immediately
a great rush on the part of the Soviets
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to sit down and talk to us
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about the future implications
of this thing
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and what the future uses of it would be.
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But he got no encouragement at all.
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Stimson's tactics had
misfired - the "big three" had met
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before the full power
of the atomic weapon was revealed.
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Stimson feared that from now on,
Secretary of State Byrnes
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would use the bomb to try to lever
direct concessions from the Russians.
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I rather think that Mr Byrnes
had something of the thought
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that this would be a sort of
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point of leverage
in diplomatic exchanges,
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whereas I think Mr Stimson -
or Colonel Stimson -
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had a different idea
of the use of the bomb.
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00:30:44,385 --> 00:30:46,136
He wrote to the president
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to urge direct negotiation
on the nuclear issue,
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and argued that relations with Russia
"may perhaps be irretrievably embittered
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by the way in which we approach
the solution of the bomb with Russia."
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"For if we fail to approach them now
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and merely negotiate with them
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having this weapon
rather ostentatiously on our hip,
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their suspicions and their distrust of
our purposes and motives will increase."
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00:31:21,547 --> 00:31:25,050
With the atomic weapons
now almost ready for use,
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00:31:25,134 --> 00:31:28,888
it was time for Truman to issue
a final ultimatum to the Japanese -
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and again Stimson's advice was rejected.
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00:31:32,182 --> 00:31:36,854
Truman and Byrnes decided not to modify
the unconditional-surrender formula
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by offering the Japanese
the chance to keep their emperor.
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My hope is that
the people of Japan will now realise
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that further resistance
to the forces of the nations
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now united
in the enforcement of law and justice
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will be absolutely futile.
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There is still time -
but little time -
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for the Japanese to save themselves
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from the destruction
which threatens them.
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00:32:06,383 --> 00:32:13,557
The very purpose of it was to assure
them that they would have the decision,
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and at the same time
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not to start a controversy
among ourselves
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about the position of the emperor.
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00:32:26,654 --> 00:32:30,324
When the Potsdam proclamation
was issued,
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Foreign Minister Togo and I
worked together many sleepless nights,
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and I took this proclamation
to the attention of the foreign minister
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00:32:44,797 --> 00:32:48,759
and explained the substance of it.
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00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:53,472
Togo at once said this was acceptable,
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00:32:53,555 --> 00:32:59,311
and he immediately went to the palace
and asked for an audience.
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00:32:59,395 --> 00:33:06,151
The emperor approved Togo's judgement
that this should be accepted
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and the war be terminated at once.
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Foreign Minister Togo
said in the cabinet meeting
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that we can stop the war
without the question of the emperor.
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We can keep the emperor all right.
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But at that time we -
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the Japanese government-
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asked some... intermediate...
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mediation... Mediation?
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...mediation to the Russians,
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so many cabinet ministers said,
480
00:33:37,725 --> 00:33:41,478
"Well, let us see the situation
for a while."
481
00:33:41,562 --> 00:33:44,231
Prime Minister Suzuki announced
482
00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:47,234
that Japan would ignore
the ultimatum.
483
00:33:47,317 --> 00:33:50,446
Perhaps Russia
would save Japan's honour.
484
00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:54,658
After all, the Potsdam Declaration
had not been signed by Stalin -
485
00:33:54,742 --> 00:33:56,618
he might still mediate.
486
00:33:56,702 --> 00:34:00,372
Stalin told Truman
about the Japanese approaches.
487
00:34:00,456 --> 00:34:05,002
Truman knew all about them -
the Japanese codes had been broken.
488
00:34:05,085 --> 00:34:08,547
Both leaders agreed to ignore
the peace feelers
489
00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:12,217
and Truman sailed home on August 3.
490
00:34:12,301 --> 00:34:15,637
With no response from the Japanese,
he authorised the Air Force
491
00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:19,975
to drop the atom bomb
as soon as they were ready.
492
00:34:20,059 --> 00:34:22,144
The Japanese foreign minister, Togo,
493
00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:25,481
in desperation
cabled his ambassador in Moscow:
494
00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:29,276
"Since the loss of one day
relative to this present matter
495
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:32,362
may result
in a thousand years of regret,
496
00:34:32,446 --> 00:34:36,200
it is requested you immediately
have a talk with Molotov."
497
00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:40,370
But Molotov
would still not meet the ambassador.
498
00:34:40,954 --> 00:34:42,372
On August 6,
499
00:34:42,456 --> 00:34:46,085
two days before the Russians had said
they would attack the Japanese,
500
00:34:46,168 --> 00:34:51,048
the Enola Gay set off
on its 1500-mile journey.
501
00:34:51,131 --> 00:34:56,470
I noticed as I taxied out
that there were several hundred people
502
00:34:56,553 --> 00:34:59,848
that were in the area
the aircraft were parked in,
503
00:34:59,932 --> 00:35:03,268
there were some
in front of the control tower...
504
00:35:03,352 --> 00:35:06,897
People were out there
to see what was going on
505
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:09,691
without really knowing
what they were looking at,
506
00:35:09,775 --> 00:35:11,527
but it was something different,
507
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:15,489
so they wanted to be part of it,
wanted to see what was taking place.
508
00:35:15,572 --> 00:35:18,909
There's one bomb and one aeroplane
was going to carry that bomb,
509
00:35:18,992 --> 00:35:23,705
and that's the group commander,
Colonel Tibbets, with his full crew.
510
00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:25,916
My crew was assigned
511
00:35:25,999 --> 00:35:28,168
to fly in formation on his right wing
512
00:35:28,252 --> 00:35:29,419
during the bombing,
513
00:35:29,503 --> 00:35:30,838
for a couple of reasons -
514
00:35:30,963 --> 00:35:32,381
somebody had to fly there
515
00:35:32,464 --> 00:35:36,135
and I was scheduled by him
to fly the second mission,
516
00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:39,638
if there were to be a second mission.
517
00:35:39,721 --> 00:35:42,933
We were to have a third aircraft
flying on the left wing
518
00:35:43,016 --> 00:35:45,477
who would drop back
just before the bombing -
519
00:35:45,561 --> 00:35:47,271
he was equipped with cameras.
520
00:35:47,354 --> 00:35:52,151
We were to fly unseen by each other
for the first three hours
521
00:35:52,234 --> 00:35:59,116
and to make rendezvous at 8,000 feet
over Iwo Jima at 6am.
522
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,493
This was the plan.
523
00:36:01,577 --> 00:36:05,956
We made the rendezvous successfully,
then we had about an hour and a half
524
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:11,044
to go along in a lazy formation on
a beautiful night out over the Pacific,
525
00:36:11,128 --> 00:36:14,464
with moons and cloud puffs
that looked like powder puffs -
526
00:36:14,548 --> 00:36:18,093
it was a quiet, peaceful evening,
believe me.
527
00:36:18,177 --> 00:36:22,306
Nothing much went on -
a little bit of talk in the aeroplane,
528
00:36:22,389 --> 00:36:25,225
but that's always normal on a mission -
529
00:36:25,309 --> 00:36:27,644
but then you'd get a quiet period,
530
00:36:27,728 --> 00:36:32,566
and I guess everybody was dreaming
or something, because it was quiet.
531
00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:38,155
At 8:15 on the morning of August 6,
532
00:36:38,238 --> 00:36:44,745
the Enola Gay, flying at 32,000 feet,
released its bomb over Hiroshima.
533
00:36:44,828 --> 00:36:47,998
As soon as
the weight had left the aeroplane
534
00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:50,334
I immediately went into this steep turn,
535
00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:53,212
as did Sweeney and Marquart behind me,
536
00:36:53,295 --> 00:36:56,298
and we tried then to place distance
537
00:36:56,423 --> 00:36:58,884
between ourselves
and the point of impact.
538
00:36:59,509 --> 00:37:02,638
In this particular case,
that bomb had 53 seconds
539
00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:05,766
from the time it left the aeroplane
until it exploded.
540
00:37:05,849 --> 00:37:10,395
That's how long it took to fall
from the bombing altitude - 53 seconds.
541
00:37:10,479 --> 00:37:14,566
And this gave us adequate time,
of course, to make the turn.
542
00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:19,821
Now, we had just made the turn
and rolled out in level flight
543
00:37:19,947 --> 00:37:24,159
when it seemed like somebody
had grabbed hold of my aeroplane
544
00:37:24,243 --> 00:37:26,036
and gave it a real hard shaking,
545
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,998
because this was the shock wave
that had come up.
546
00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:40,050
This was something
that I was glad to feel
547
00:37:40,133 --> 00:37:42,761
because it gave me a moment of relief-
548
00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:47,266
after all, having worked on that bomb
for well over a year,
549
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:50,227
that 53 seconds
while I'm turning the aeroplane
550
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:53,480
I'm wondering
"Is it or is it not going to work?"
551
00:37:53,563 --> 00:37:59,111
And, of course, the shock wave
hitting us was indication it had worked.
552
00:37:59,194 --> 00:38:02,990
Therefore I felt that success
had been achieved.
553
00:38:03,073 --> 00:38:07,035
When the bomb came
I saw a yellowish flash
554
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,997
and I was buried in the darkness.
555
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,711
The two-storeyed wooden building that
was my house, with eight rooms in it,
556
00:38:15,794 --> 00:38:19,464
was blown down to pieces
and covered me up.
557
00:38:22,426 --> 00:38:24,845
When I regained consciousness
558
00:38:24,928 --> 00:38:28,056
everything was pitch dark all around me.
559
00:38:28,181 --> 00:38:31,643
I tried to stand up,
but my leg was broken.
560
00:38:31,727 --> 00:38:37,107
I tried to speak and I found
that six of my teeth had been broken.
561
00:38:37,232 --> 00:38:41,069
Then I realised that my face was burnt
and my back was burnt.
562
00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:46,491
There was a slash right across
from one shoulder down to the waist.
563
00:38:46,575 --> 00:38:50,412
I crawled to the river bank
and when I got there
564
00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:54,916
I saw hundreds of bodies
come floating down the river.
565
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:01,882
And it was then that I realised with
a shock that all Hiroshima had been hit.
566
00:39:06,053 --> 00:39:07,554
The day was clear
567
00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:09,181
when we dropped that bomb -
568
00:39:09,264 --> 00:39:12,601
it was a clear sunshiny day
and visibility was unrestricted -
569
00:39:12,684 --> 00:39:14,936
so as we came back around,
570
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:18,815
again facing the direction of Hiroshima,
571
00:39:18,899 --> 00:39:22,235
we saw this cloud coming up.
572
00:39:22,319 --> 00:39:26,907
The cloud by this time - now two minutes
- the cloud was up at our altitude.
573
00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:28,909
We were at 33,000 feet at this time,
574
00:39:28,992 --> 00:39:30,410
and the cloud was up there
575
00:39:30,494 --> 00:39:34,539
and continuing to go
right on up in a boiling fashion -
576
00:39:34,623 --> 00:39:37,084
it was rolling and boiling.
577
00:39:37,167 --> 00:39:44,174
The surface was nothing but...
a black, boiling...
578
00:39:44,257 --> 00:39:46,760
the only thing I can say,
like a barrel of tar -
579
00:39:46,843 --> 00:39:49,054
probably
the best description I can give.
580
00:39:49,137 --> 00:39:51,139
This was the way it looked down there.
581
00:39:51,223 --> 00:39:53,100
Where before there had been a city -
582
00:39:53,183 --> 00:39:55,268
distinctive houses, buildings
583
00:39:55,352 --> 00:39:58,188
and everything that you could see
from our altitude -
584
00:39:58,271 --> 00:40:03,652
now you couldn't see anything except
this black, boiling debris down below.
585
00:40:03,777 --> 00:40:07,447
We took pictures as rapidly as we could.
586
00:40:07,531 --> 00:40:11,701
My immediate concern after that
was "It's time to get out of here."
587
00:40:11,785 --> 00:40:18,667
I encountered
long, ceaseless lines of escapees.
588
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:24,756
All of them had no clothes whatsoever
on their bodies.
589
00:40:26,341 --> 00:40:29,636
And the skin
590
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:35,600
from their faces, arms and breast
591
00:40:35,684 --> 00:40:38,061
peeling off and hanging loose -
592
00:40:38,145 --> 00:40:43,191
and yet without any expression.
593
00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:47,028
In deep silence they are escaping.
594
00:40:47,112 --> 00:40:52,117
I thought it was a procession of ghosts.
595
00:40:53,118 --> 00:40:54,453
The words went back
596
00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:59,249
basically to the effect
that the bombing conditions were clear,
597
00:40:59,332 --> 00:41:03,753
the target had been hit, the results
were better than had been anticipated,
598
00:41:03,837 --> 00:41:06,089
and that message was sent on back.
599
00:41:06,173 --> 00:41:08,258
From there on it was just a proposition
600
00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:10,635
of letting everybody talk
for a few minutes
601
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,679
and get it out of their system.
602
00:41:12,762 --> 00:41:14,723
The excitement was over -
603
00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:18,643
pretty soon it became
a rather routine flight back home.
604
00:41:18,727 --> 00:41:20,896
As a matter of fact,
it was routine enough
605
00:41:20,979 --> 00:41:24,691
that I let Bob Lewis
and the autopilot fly that aeroplane
606
00:41:24,774 --> 00:41:28,570
and went back and got some sleep
for about the first time in 30 hours -
607
00:41:28,653 --> 00:41:30,530
and I was ready for it.
608
00:41:30,614 --> 00:41:32,240
A long drawn-out war,
609
00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:39,247
you begin to get casualties from the
side-effects of exhaustion, privation...
610
00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:43,001
disease and things of that sort.
611
00:41:43,084 --> 00:41:46,421
So getting it over with
as quick as possible
612
00:41:46,505 --> 00:41:52,177
is a moral responsibility
of everyone concerned.
613
00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:56,056
Now, it's true that we knew
the war was over
614
00:41:56,139 --> 00:41:59,184
and if we just waited a little while
it would be over,
615
00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:02,020
because the Japanese were negotiating,
616
00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:05,106
and we knew this
because we'd broken their code
617
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:07,859
and we were listening
to their communications.
618
00:42:07,943 --> 00:42:14,783
But I believe that President Truman
made the proper decision to use it...
619
00:42:15,951 --> 00:42:19,246
because it probably hastened
the negotiations
620
00:42:19,329 --> 00:42:22,624
and even if we just saved one day,
621
00:42:22,707 --> 00:42:25,377
to me it would be worthwhile,
you have to do it.
622
00:42:26,419 --> 00:42:29,798
I thought it was absolutely unnecessary,
623
00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:34,427
because by the time
the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima
624
00:42:34,511 --> 00:42:40,433
we were conducting negotiations
with the Soviet government,
625
00:42:40,517 --> 00:42:43,895
looking towards
an early end of hostilities.
626
00:42:43,979 --> 00:42:48,650
And we were completely exhausted.
627
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:52,779
And the navy and army, too,
628
00:42:52,862 --> 00:42:55,949
were slowly becoming...
629
00:42:58,827 --> 00:43:04,874
more amenable to the idea of peace.
630
00:43:04,958 --> 00:43:08,628
It's an appalling subject to talk about,
631
00:43:08,712 --> 00:43:13,216
and the United States has,
consciously and unconsciously,
632
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:16,636
a great deal of guilt complex
about its use.
633
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:22,976
But Truman made the decision on
the basis of the military necessities.
634
00:43:23,059 --> 00:43:27,147
And I think an impartial analysis,
635
00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:30,150
particularly from
the Japanese themselves -
636
00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:34,112
more evidence is coming out that
they would've fought on fanatically.
637
00:43:34,195 --> 00:43:36,323
You know, they did fight on fanatically
638
00:43:36,406 --> 00:43:37,949
in some of the islands,
639
00:43:38,033 --> 00:43:40,118
in spite of the surrender.
640
00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:44,623
And the emperor
wouldn't have had the courage
641
00:43:44,706 --> 00:43:48,209
to have called it off,
or the support to call it off.
642
00:43:48,752 --> 00:43:54,007
When I heard about the atomic bomb
I was so astonished,
643
00:43:54,924 --> 00:43:59,929
and I frankly said,
"The American people are brutal."
644
00:44:02,766 --> 00:44:08,021
I wondered if the American people
were really civilised.
645
00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:09,814
But at the same time
646
00:44:09,898 --> 00:44:14,611
I thought this may become a key
647
00:44:14,694 --> 00:44:19,282
for Japan to end the war.
648
00:44:22,661 --> 00:44:26,247
It was two days before
the Japanese government realised
649
00:44:26,331 --> 00:44:30,627
what the atomic bomb was
and what it had done.
650
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:34,214
70,000 had died in Hiroshima.
651
00:44:34,297 --> 00:44:37,133
Another 70,000 were injured.
652
00:44:37,217 --> 00:44:42,555
97% of the city's buildings
were destroyed or severely damaged.
653
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,975
President Truman, on hearing the news,
654
00:44:46,059 --> 00:44:49,729
called it
"the greatest thing in history".
655
00:44:49,813 --> 00:44:52,107
The peace group in the Japanese cabinet
656
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:57,028
hoped that the bomb might persuade
the war faction to accept surrender.
657
00:44:57,112 --> 00:45:00,198
As the cabinet met
on the morning of August 9,
658
00:45:00,281 --> 00:45:03,368
it received further shattering news.
659
00:45:04,327 --> 00:45:06,454
The previous evening, in Moscow,
660
00:45:06,538 --> 00:45:09,666
Molotov had finally received
the Japanese ambassador
661
00:45:09,749 --> 00:45:14,045
and bluntly told him that Russia
was about to declare war on Japan.
662
00:45:14,671 --> 00:45:18,717
Eight hours later - exactly three months
after the defeat of Germany,
663
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,802
just as Stalin had promised -
664
00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:24,556
Russia attacked the Japanese army
in Manchuria.
665
00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:29,519
Japanese hopes of Russian mediation
were at an end.
666
00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:33,440
American hopes of finishing the war
before Russia became involved
667
00:45:33,523 --> 00:45:35,984
were thwarted.
668
00:45:41,531 --> 00:45:43,616
Later that same morning,
669
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:47,704
the Americans dropped
a plutonium bomb on Nagasaki.
670
00:45:47,787 --> 00:45:50,290
It killed 60,000 people.
671
00:45:50,373 --> 00:45:52,917
But even now the Japanese militants
672
00:45:53,001 --> 00:45:56,546
held out for a surrender
without an occupation.
673
00:45:57,714 --> 00:46:02,135
The peace party wanted only
to preserve the emperor's position.
674
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,929
For the first time,
to break the deadlock,
675
00:46:05,013 --> 00:46:09,100
the emperor, Hirohito,
was called in to decide.
676
00:46:10,226 --> 00:46:12,979
He chose peace.
677
00:46:13,062 --> 00:46:18,860
I shall never
forget the emotion of that time.
678
00:46:18,943 --> 00:46:25,492
Everybody started to cry,
so I looked at the emperor's face.
679
00:46:25,575 --> 00:46:28,912
He just kept silent,
680
00:46:29,662 --> 00:46:36,795
but he wore white gloves on his hands...
681
00:46:37,921 --> 00:46:45,136
He wiped his own face several times,
682
00:46:46,262 --> 00:46:52,352
so we could know the emperor himself,
683
00:46:52,435 --> 00:46:55,814
His Majesty the emperor himself,
was crying.
684
00:46:56,689 --> 00:47:02,779
I shall never forget the emotion
685
00:47:02,862 --> 00:47:05,073
in this room at that time.
686
00:47:07,408 --> 00:47:10,829
On August 10, the Japanese
made it known they would surrender
687
00:47:10,912 --> 00:47:14,249
if the emperor were allowed to stay.
688
00:47:14,332 --> 00:47:19,420
On August 12,
the Allies sent a noncommittal reply.
689
00:47:19,546 --> 00:47:22,882
By this time,
Japan's army was near revolt.
690
00:47:25,927 --> 00:47:29,764
Even if a thousand
atom bombs had been dropped,
691
00:47:29,848 --> 00:47:34,143
and even if Japan
had been completely devastated,
692
00:47:34,227 --> 00:47:38,231
you must remember
that Japan's honour was at stake,
693
00:47:38,314 --> 00:47:40,942
the pride of the Japanese at that time
694
00:47:41,025 --> 00:47:46,447
who felt that the only honourable way
out of the war was not to surrender,
695
00:47:46,531 --> 00:47:48,867
but to die to the last man.
696
00:47:49,701 --> 00:47:52,078
The Americans dropped leaflets
697
00:47:52,161 --> 00:47:54,205
urging the Japanese to surrender.
698
00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:59,586
These almost upset the delicate
manoeuvrings of the peace party.
699
00:48:02,881 --> 00:48:06,009
That could have caused a lot of trouble.
700
00:48:06,092 --> 00:48:08,887
Civilians and soldiers
all over the country
701
00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:12,932
were completely unaware
of what was going on.
702
00:48:13,016 --> 00:48:16,603
If they had found out that
the government was negotiating peace
703
00:48:16,728 --> 00:48:18,813
with the United States,
704
00:48:18,897 --> 00:48:22,108
the situation
would have become impossible.
705
00:48:22,191 --> 00:48:25,653
It might even have led to a revolution.
706
00:48:25,737 --> 00:48:31,868
So I felt we had to reach
a final decision as fast as possible.
707
00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:39,584
Once again, on August 14,
708
00:48:39,667 --> 00:48:42,712
the emperor met
a divided Supreme War Council
709
00:48:42,795 --> 00:48:46,966
and told them they must accept
the Allied ultimatum.
710
00:48:47,050 --> 00:48:51,429
He himself would broadcast the next day.
711
00:48:51,512 --> 00:48:54,641
That night, a group of junior officers
invaded the palace
712
00:48:54,724 --> 00:48:58,019
and tried to seize the recording
of the emperor's message.
713
00:48:58,102 --> 00:49:01,856
They couldn't find it. The coup failed.
714
00:49:01,940 --> 00:49:03,358
At noon on August 15,
715
00:49:03,441 --> 00:49:10,365
the Japanese people heard their
emperor's voice for the first time.
716
00:49:15,370 --> 00:49:22,919
"The war", he told them, "has developed
not necessarily to Japan's advantage."
717
00:49:23,002 --> 00:49:29,133
"Moreover, the enemy has begun to use
a new and most cruel bomb."
718
00:49:29,217 --> 00:49:31,552
"Should we continue to fight,
719
00:49:31,636 --> 00:49:34,847
it will not only result
in an ultimate collapse
720
00:49:34,931 --> 00:49:38,101
and obliteration of the Japanese nation,
721
00:49:38,184 --> 00:49:43,648
but also the total destruction
of human civilisation."
722
00:49:43,731 --> 00:49:48,569
"We must, therefore,
endure the unendurable."
723
00:49:50,738 --> 00:49:57,328
When the emperor addressed the nation
through his broadcast,
724
00:49:57,412 --> 00:50:04,043
I know that 99 men out of 100
725
00:50:04,127 --> 00:50:06,170
were taken aback.
726
00:50:06,254 --> 00:50:10,842
They expected the emperor
to urge them to fight on.
727
00:50:11,968 --> 00:50:17,473
So the shock was tremendous.
728
00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:23,604
And all the army officers,
particularly the younger ones,
729
00:50:23,688 --> 00:50:29,902
who said that
they had to fight to the bitter end,
730
00:50:29,986 --> 00:50:33,072
were naturally disillusioned.
731
00:50:33,156 --> 00:50:39,704
Some even tried to remonstrate
732
00:50:39,787 --> 00:50:44,834
with the decision
taken by the cabinet for surrender.
733
00:50:50,214 --> 00:50:53,551
In a way it could be said
that the atomic bombings
734
00:50:53,634 --> 00:50:56,095
and Russia's sudden attack on Japan
735
00:50:56,179 --> 00:50:58,890
helped to bring about
the end of the war.
736
00:50:58,973 --> 00:51:01,350
If those events had not happened,
737
00:51:01,434 --> 00:51:06,272
Japan, at that stage, probably
could not have stopped fighting.
738
00:51:14,864 --> 00:51:18,326
The war had ended,
but not the dying.
739
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,998
And radiation sickness -
which the Americans had not foreseen -
740
00:51:24,082 --> 00:51:26,667
would kill thousands more
in the years to come.
741
00:51:35,718 --> 00:51:38,346
The morning of September 2, 1945:
742
00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:43,392
the United States battleship Missouri
is anchored in Tokyo Bay.
743
00:51:44,310 --> 00:51:47,105
The new Japanese foreign minister,
Shigemitsu,
744
00:51:47,188 --> 00:51:51,651
limps on board
to sign the surrender document.
745
00:52:04,247 --> 00:52:07,875
The Allied commander, General MacArthur.
746
00:52:07,959 --> 00:52:15,508
I now invite the representatives
of the emperor of Japan
747
00:52:15,591 --> 00:52:18,553
and the Japanese government
748
00:52:18,636 --> 00:52:21,973
and the Japanese Imperial
General Headquarters
749
00:52:22,098 --> 00:52:27,728
to sign the instrument of surrender
at the places indicated.
750
00:52:27,812 --> 00:52:33,067
The foreign minister's aide,
Kase, watched the ceremony.
751
00:52:33,151 --> 00:52:40,533
I saw many thousands of sailors
everywhere on this huge vessel,
752
00:52:40,616 --> 00:52:46,706
and just in front of us
were delegates of the victorious powers,
753
00:52:46,789 --> 00:52:50,960
in military uniforms
glittering with gold.
754
00:52:51,669 --> 00:52:53,421
And looking at them,
755
00:52:53,504 --> 00:53:00,136
I wondered how Japan ever thought
she could defeat all those nations.
756
00:53:02,388 --> 00:53:08,269
Let us pray that peace
be now restored to the world,
757
00:53:09,562 --> 00:53:14,442
and that God will preserve it always.
758
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:19,322
These proceedings are closed.
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