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Hasan, I saw your show on student loans.
It was amazing.
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I'm actually gonna do an episode
about the Indian election.
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-What?
-Are you out of your mind?
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You're being stupid now.
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Indian elections are a definite no-no.
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There is a lot of garbage outside,
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and that garbage
is going to come on your face
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if you open your mouth on Indian politics.
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You cannot talk about�Narendra Modi.
You cannot talk about�Priyanka Gandhi.
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You cannot talk out in the open.
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-What about on the Internet?
-Never on Internet!
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You are an NRI.
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You are an ABCD.
You are an American-born desi.
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You don't know the Indian politics.
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It is the world's largest democracy,
and I'm gonna talk about it.
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Politics is like a jalebi,
round, round, round,
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you don't know where it ends,
where it starts.
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Democracy is for people with power,
people with muscle power and money power.
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-It is not for you and me.
-It's for gangs.
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You're going to make millions
of people angry.
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With the Hindus, with the Muslims,
with the Sikhs.
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They are going to kill you.
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You will be no more.
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There will be an accident.
You will be burnt to death.
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You're gone.
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[speaking Hindi]
Do you want a problem?
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-No, I don't want a problem.
-Then why do you want to do it?
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You can talk about anything else.
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-Talk about cricket.
-Talk about sneakers.
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-That's more comical.
-That's more comical.
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-Do you know, your name--
-Hasan means "nice" in Arabic.
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India is not Arabia.
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Your name rings a bell
that you are a terrorist.
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Period.
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-You're maybe... a Pakistani agent.
-A Pakistani agent.
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-I'm a Pakistani agent?
-[woman] Yeah.
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Could be.
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-[theme music playing]
-[crowd shouting]
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[siren wailing]
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[audience cheering]
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Hello!
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm Hasan Minhaj. Welcome to Patriot Act.
Thank you guys so much.
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Thank you. All right, tonight...
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I want to talk about politics in India.
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I know, I'm sorry.
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I know, I know.
Look, talking about politics in India
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can get you in a lot of trouble,
especially...
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because I'm Indian
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and Muslim.
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It's very weird to be something
that people love
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and then also be something
that people do not like.
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Right, it's like if one half of you
was Oreo cookie
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and then the other half with Muslim.
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There's no winning.
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It makes everything so much more
complicated and confusing.
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And just a few weeks ago,
things got even worse
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after a terrorist attack in Kashmir.
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There has been a major escalation
in tension between Pakistan and India.
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More than 40 people are dead
after a suicide bombing
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rammed into a bus filled with troops.
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A Pakistani-based terror group
has claimed responsibility for the attack.
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This is the most serious escalation
in years
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between the two nuclear-armed adversaries.
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Kashmir has been disputed territory
between India and Pakistan since 1947.
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And here's how controversial Kashmir is.
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Look, no. Your eyes aren't messed up.
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You don't need to get them checked.
That map is blurred because we were told
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that we could not show a map of Kashmir
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without Indian-approved borders
because if we did,
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the Indian government would likely sue us.
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So, joke's on you, India,
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because Americans couldn't even find
Kashmir even if it were on a map.
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Clearly, the stakes are incredibly high.
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The bombing last month
was the deadliest terrorist attack
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on Indian forces in Kashmir
in almost 30 years.
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India responded by sending bombers
into Pakistan, which they say
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hit terrorist strongholds,
but Pakistan reported
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that India missed their targets
and just hit a bunch of trees.
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And now,�Pakistan plans
to file a complaint with the UN,
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saying that the attack
on trees is eco-terrorism.
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And India was like, "We would have�hit
something if our maps weren't so blurry.
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And just so you know,
those trees are terrorists."
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Now India is adamant
that they hit their targets,
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but people started asking
the Indian government for proof
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and then Indian cable news was like,
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"Release the pundits."
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He had nothing in mind, not his family,
only the country.
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-That, I salute--
-[woman] No, but they want proof.
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-I'm coming to that.
-But they want proof
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what they destroyed.
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This is a moment of celebration for India.
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Not at all. You are liars!
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-You are hysterical people!
-Oh?
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Yes, people like you are a curse
on this nation.
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Do you know that?
You are a curse on this nation.
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You are a shameless person,
whoever you are.
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This right here
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is every desi living�room talking
about politics. Okay?
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Right now,
you have Indian Andy Garcia beefing
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with Indian Santa Claus.
"You're a shameful man!"
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While Indian Nancy Grace
moderates the debate.
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And while they're all shouting
at each other,
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there's just some random uncle
reading his Kindle.
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He's just like, "Kashmir.
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This argument is never gonna end.
I might as well get some reading done."
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Now, you have to understand for India
and Pakistan, Kashmir is a loyalty test.
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"Hey, how Pakistani are you?
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How Indian are you?"
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Right, and this test is coming
at an incredibly critical moment
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in Indian politics.
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Good evening.
Our top story on the 23rd of May,
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we will know who will form
the next government of India.
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More than 900 million people
will cast their votes.
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[man]
It's the biggest electoral show on Earth.
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And this time, it's all about this man,
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Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
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In less than a month,
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India will be holding
their general election,
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and everyone is talking about whether
the current Prime Minister Narendra Modi
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will be able to stay in power.
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But this election is about more than that.
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Since Modi came to power,
India has grown more hostile
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to minority groups.
Among a vocal minority,
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there's been a resurgence
in religious nationalism,
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specifically Hindu nationalism,
the idea that India is a Hindu nation.
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Which completely goes against secularism,
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which is enshrined
in the Indian constitution.
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And I know what you're thinking,
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"Of course Hasan Minhaj
would say that about Mother India.
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After all, we all know he's a spy...
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-for Pakistan."
-[thunder crashes]
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In many ways, this election
is about what it means to be Indian.
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And no, you can't just marry into it.
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India...
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is the largest�democracy on Earth.
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It has around 900 million eligible voters,
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and you know if that many people
voted in America,
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it would still come down
to 38 people in Florida.
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India has 29 states in seven territories,
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22 official languages
and every major religion.
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Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Jains,
Jews, Buddhists
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and overly optimistic
Christian missionaries.
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Who are like, "Hey, you never know."
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Even within Hinduism,
there are thousands of castes,
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which is the social class
that you're born into.
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All of this makes India�one
of the most diverse places on Earth.
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And yet, the only thing
Americans know about India
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is henna tattoos,
Gwen Stefani's bindi phase and goat yoga.
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[woman] So on your breath in,
just open to the heart space.
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Lift the tailbone,
shift your gaze forward...
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-Like this?
-and maybe kiss your goat.�[laughs]
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All of that diversity of India
can't be captured
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in a simple two party system.
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India has a parliamentary system,
which is the nerdiest thing
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that we took from the British.
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The last election
had over 8,000 candidates
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and roughly 464 political parties.
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Usually to take power,
parties have to team up
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and form coalitions to get a majority.
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So coalitions can team up to win,
like LeBron with the Heat,
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or they can team up and lose,
like LeBron with the Lakers.
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For the last 30 years,
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it's been nearly impossible
to govern without a coalition.
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But in 2014, the impossible happened.
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A historic win for�Narendra Modi
and the BJP party.
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The BJP has won enough seats
for a majority and many, many more.
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No single party has won a majority
in India since 1984.
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Modi led the BJP, a right-wing
nationalist party, to a�landslide win.
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Modi's victory was built on
his rags-to-riches story, charisma
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and economic promises
for the poorest in India.
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[man] He promised to generate jobs
for the roughly 12 million young Indians
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who enter the workforce each year.
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We want small workplaces
in factories to spread.
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In every village, street and neighborhood,
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we should see the impact of employment.
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But really,
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his campaign could be summed up
in one phrase.
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India first.
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India first.
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India first.
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India first.
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[speaks foreign language]
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India first!
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It's like he was getting ready
for an audition.
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He's like, "India first.
God damn it. Come on.
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Give me some more Pitino.
India first!
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India first!
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Now, why does that sound so familiar?
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America first.
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America first.
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America first.
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Again, I'm for America First.
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Trump even name-checked Modi in 2016.
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What I'm about to show you guys
is 100% real.
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This is a real campaign ad,
and we did not edit this in any way.
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I look forward to working with
Prime Minister Modi.
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[speaks foreign language]
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[sitar music playing]
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We love the Hindus.
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We love India.
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I'm Donald Trump,
and I approve this message.
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I love the way Trump says, "The Hindus."
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It's like he doesn't know what they are,
but definitely thinks they have powers.
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We love India.
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We love the Hindus!
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Come on, I can imagine
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an Indian uncle at home watching this
on Zee TV like, "My man.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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My man!"
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Now throughout the upcoming election,
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you're gonna hear a lot of people
comparing Modi to Trump, and I get why.
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They both dislike the press, they both
use Twitter to attack their rivals.
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They're both strongmen with rabid fans,
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and they both greet people
in very bizarre ways.
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Now, you guys all know
Trump's handshake, right?
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Trump yanks people like he's expecting
coins to come out of their mouth.
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And if Trump's a tugger,
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Modi's a�hugger.
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[audience clamoring, applauding]
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Oh!
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I love how Modi just holds his hand.
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It's so gentle.
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He's just like...�
Tum Paas Aaye�
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[hums]
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Look at Donald.
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No, no. You can tell that Donald's mad.
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He's pissed.
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Because that hug smooshed�the McDouble
in his pocket.
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Like, "You got ketchup on my jacket."
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Yun Muskuraye�
-"Look, stop it.
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I already told you.
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I love the Hindus.
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But not touching,
I don't even do that to Melania."
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Now ultimately,
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comparing Modi to Trump
is way too reductive.
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Modi is actually an incredibly charismatic
and astute politician.
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He gives speeches all the time.
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But he is the only Indian prime minister
to have never held a press conference
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in his own country.
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That way, he can never be questioned
about his controversies.
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It's like posting on Instagram,
but disabling comments.
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And Modi has a history
of saying a lot with silence.
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In 2002, when Modi was chief minister
of the state of�Gujarat,
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he received international condemnation
for not speaking out
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or stopping violent riots.
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Now, Modi said his response was adequate,
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and a court agreed.
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But almost 2,000 people
were still killed.
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Ultimately, Modi follows�the Lil Wayne
rule of diplomacy.
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"Real G's move in silence like lasagna."
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Now compare that
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to the man running against Modi,
Rahul Gandhi, aka, India's Michael Bubl?.
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Now, he has no relation
to Mahatma Gandhi,
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but Rahul Gandhi is the president
of the Indian National Congress Party,
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the BJP's main opposition.
He's political royalty.
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His great-grandfather, grandmother
and father were all prime ministers,
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but apparently,
greatness isn't hereditary.
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The BJP has called Rahul lazy, stupid,
entitled, even pappu.
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In response to the insults, last summer
in Parliament, Rahul was like,
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"This ends right here, right now
with love from pappu."
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-[speaking foreign language]
-[shouting]
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Don't forget...
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Modi is a man who will hug anybody.
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Putin, Erdo?an, MBS, even Mark Zuckerberg,
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and here Modi was like,
"Boundaries, Rahul, please.
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Please, just don't make me call HR."
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No one has turned down a hug that hard
since Seinfeld turned down Kesha.
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I'm Kesha, I love you so much.
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-Oh, thanks.
-Can I give you a hug?
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-No, thanks. Yeah, no thanks.
-Please, a little one.
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-Oh, ho-ho-ho.
-[laughing]
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-[man] That was a nice woman.
-I don't know who that was.
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Now, the truth is the downfall of Congress
that propelled the BJP to victory
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started long before Rahul Gandhi,
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which is why I wanted to talk
to both parties about what�happened.
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But BJP officials did not respond
to any of our interview requests.
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I don't know why.
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They left me on read, you guys.
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But Shashi Tharoor,
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a member of the Congress Party,
did agree to sit down with us.
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He's also a candidate
in this year's elections.
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I'm a member of parliament, second term
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at the lower house
of the Indian Parliament.
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So, politically, who would you be
if you we had to compare you
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to political figures in the United States?
Are you like an Elizabeth Warren?
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[laughs]
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Do you mean in terms of ideology?
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Because honestly, there isn't quite
an equivalent, our systems are different.
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-Are you more like a Chuck Schumer?
-Slightly left of center,
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somewhere between Schumer
and Elizabeth Warren would about do it.
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Does Kamala Harris count?
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Okay, so you're more of a Kamala.
Okay, all right.
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I think you're an Elizabeth.
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I just love the way he talks.
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He sounds like he's the voice
of a wise moose in a Pixar movie.
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He's just like, "Hasan, my boy.
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Avoid the cave during monsoon season.
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It's quite treacherous."
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And I'm like, I don't know,
the moose has spoken.
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Shashi has been very outspoken
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about the rightward shift
of politics in India.
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In many ways, this coming election
is about a battle for the soul of India.
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We've had a party in power
for the last four and a half years,
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which in many ways,
has represented a radical departure
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from some aspects of what
India has always been seen as being about.
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The India that you want
to see your kids grow up in
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is India the people like me
speak for.
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An inclusive party that brings in people
of all regions, all languages
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into a common platform,
that's the India of the Congress Party.
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I know you must be thinking,
"Wow,
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that sounds like an incredible vision
for India.
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The Congress Party sounds awesome."
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But the Congress Party has been mired
in numerous�corruption scandals.
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There are honestly too many to go through
right now,
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but the 2G Scandal is a hall of�famer.
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How about this then? $40 billion.
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That's the ballpark figure�being put
on the scale
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of India's worst ever corruption scandal.
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A former telecoms minister�is one
of 14 individuals,
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along with three companies,
facing a variety of bribery allegations
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in the sale of mobile phone licenses.
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Just to put that number in perspective,
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for that amount of money,
Aunt Becky from Full House
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could have gotten 80,000 kids into USC.
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This was a major scandal.
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Time magazine ranked it the second worst
abuse of power of all time,
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after Watergate.
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It's actually the second tattoo
on Roger Stone's back.
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Now, the people involved
ended up being acquitted,
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but the Indian courts
are a whole other episode.
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The Congress Party has been a cesspool
of corruption.
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So I had to ask Shashi Tharoor about it.
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No party has a monopoly on virtue,
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and no party
has a monopoly on corruption.
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Are you saying, like, in Indian politics,
corruption is just everywhere,
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both parties sort of have it?
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In India,�increasingly,
there is that perception.
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To me, it feels like
describing the way HPV is.
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You know how it's like,
"Hey, come on. Everybody has it."
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[laughs] I certainly hope that's not true.
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Okay.
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It's not just corruption charges
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that plague
both major political parties in India.
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As crazy as it sounds,
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people in both parties have faced murder
and other serious charges,
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including the wise old moose.
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You called into question on Twitter
the motivation of the Delhi police
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in pursuing you, first on the question
of whether you murdered your wife
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and now whether you were involved
in pushing her towards suicide.
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There isn't a shred of truth in either
the charge that there was any foul play
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or any crime was involved�in the tragic
and premature death of my wife.
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God, it's so hard
to keep the candidates straight in India.
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What's their economic policy?
What about education?
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What degree of murder
have they been charged with?
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I've got a charge that has been, you know,
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bandied about against me for some years,
and I find this utterly preposterous
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that there is no sense
of any proportion or reasonableness.
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It feels like every single politician
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has some sort of relation
to either a murder charge or killing.
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Even Suge Knight would look
at Indian politicians and be like,
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"Yo, these people are fucking nuts."
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In any democracy,
voters get the leaders they deserve,
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so you've got to essentially leave it
to the wisdom of the voters
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to reject people who have credible charges
and accusations against them.
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Great advice, Shashi.
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If the 2014 election was a referendum
on the Congress Party's massive failures,
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the 2019 election is a referendum
on Modi's economic promises.
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He promised to put Indians to work,
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but unemployment
is the highest it's been in 45 years.
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We actually don't even know how bad it is
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because Modi's government
has been accused
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of hiding unemployment data,
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which is like advertising a sublet
on Craigslist with no pictures.
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You know that shit is shady.
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You're like, "Let me see some pics."
They're like, "Trust me.
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The place is great."
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Then there's Modi's
signature economic policy,
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demonetization, an attempt
to get dark money out of circulation.
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It sounds like a good idea,
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but it ended up being a massive failure.
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Even the Reserve Bank of India
was against it, but Modi did it anyway.
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Now, I know a lot of you are thinking,
"But, Hasan, at least he tried."
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And let's be real, Indians...
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when have we ever given an A for effort?
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Really?
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You think I could go up to my dad,
"Hey, Abbu,�I got a participation trophy."
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I'm sleeping outside for an A minus.
Come on, man.
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The worst part
of the demonetization thing
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is that it hurt poor people the hardest,
especially farmers,
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who account for two-thirds
of the population.
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Under Modi,
many farmers have financially suffered.
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[woman] Protesters say farm incomes
have plunged
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as produce prices have failed to keep pace
with the soaring costs of key supplies.
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Since this deceptive government has come,
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we farmers are worse off,
we're struggling for work and food.
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[man translating] I got very little money
when I went to sell my rice crop.
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How will I earn?
400
00:19:42,055 --> 00:19:43,223
We're making a loss.
401
00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:45,184
Why is Larry the Cable Guy
402
00:19:45,726 --> 00:19:48,478
doing voice-over
for an Indian economic crisis?
403
00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:50,647
[imitating Larry the Cable Guy]
"How will I grow my rice?
404
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,275
In my Chevy Silverado."
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[normal voice] But it goes beyond
Modi's failed economic policies.
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The BJP is currently trying
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to strip�almost four million
mostly Muslim immigrants
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of their right�to vote
in the state of Assam.
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00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:07,414
If they get away with it,
it will be the single largest
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voter disenfranchisement
in recorded history.
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But of course,
Hasan Minhaj, the Pakistani agent...
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[shouts]
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would come to the defense
of Muslim immigrants and to that, I say,
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"How could I be a Pakistani agent
when I'm actually being paid by Qatar?"
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00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:27,476
[thunder crashes]
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Qatar is paying me oh-so well.
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All of these things
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have put Modi on very shaky ground going
into the 2019 elections.
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00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:42,241
That was until�the conflict
in Kashmir reignited.
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The ruling party,�Janata Party
and other political parties
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are fine tuning election strategies.
422
00:20:47,955 --> 00:20:51,625
Sources suggest that it will be
the airstrike aftermath
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and the nationalist fervor around it.
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that will form the bulwark
of election campaigning for the BJP.
425
00:20:57,965 --> 00:21:01,593
The nuclear showdown could not have come
at a better time for Modi,
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who is doing everything he can
to project strength
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00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:06,390
in the most Indian way possible.
428
00:21:06,515 --> 00:21:08,517
This is a new India!
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This is an India
that will return the damage done
430
00:21:13,438 --> 00:21:15,816
by terrorists with interest!
431
00:21:16,733 --> 00:21:18,902
In classic Indian fashion,
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Modi had to mix revenge and finance.
433
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,950
We will retaliate
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with 6% interest!
435
00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:30,831
And it will compound to 9%!
436
00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:33,542
Then we will refinance.
437
00:21:34,584 --> 00:21:37,337
And they're like...
[speaks foreign language]
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Modi is appealing to his base
with his "India First" agenda.
439
00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:43,635
And at the same time,
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he's given new life
to the Hindu nationalist movement
441
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because of his deep ties to the RSS,
a right-wing organization
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00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:52,853
that's the ideological backbone
of the BJP.
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00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:57,316
[man] They are�disciplined and determined,
and their numbers are growing fast.
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00:21:57,441 --> 00:22:02,112
They are the RSS, a network of volunteers
who are playing a critical role
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00:22:02,237 --> 00:22:04,323
in the election campaign of Narendra Modi.
446
00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:06,867
Some fear that the RSS' ultimate goal
447
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:11,038
is to force India to become less secular,
more religiously Hindu,
448
00:22:11,121 --> 00:22:13,832
spreading it's message through
its daily meetings,
449
00:22:13,915 --> 00:22:15,917
which critics called militaristic,
450
00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:18,712
accusations the RSS rejects.
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00:22:18,795 --> 00:22:20,797
This is how Modi's gonna get elected?
452
00:22:21,298 --> 00:22:23,717
Donatello's just gonna hit a pi?ata?
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00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,219
He's just like,
"This broom is a lightsaber."
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00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:29,014
Look at him, he's just like,
"I'm done with cardio for the day."
455
00:22:29,639 --> 00:22:30,515
[muttering]
456
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:34,353
Oh, boy.
457
00:22:35,103 --> 00:22:37,064
Extremism, you burn so many calories.
458
00:22:37,647 --> 00:22:40,817
Modi isn't loosely affiliated
with the RSS.
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00:22:40,901 --> 00:22:43,737
For decades,
he's been a card carrying member.
460
00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:47,366
He spent years working for the RSS,
and he's pretty open about it.
461
00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:51,203
I stayed connected to RSS�since childhood.
462
00:22:51,286 --> 00:22:55,957
The traditions and the discipline,
the hard-working nature I have,
463
00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,710
RSS had a huge role to play in that.
464
00:22:58,794 --> 00:23:01,463
Modi being connected to the RSS
should be concerning.
465
00:23:01,838 --> 00:23:04,674
It's easy to laugh
at the cosplay wing of the RSS,
466
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but they have some concerning beliefs.
467
00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:09,805
They have long relied on a book,
and I swear this is the real title.
468
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:12,057
It's called Bunch of Thoughts.
469
00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:15,769
Okay, that doesn't sound like
the manifesto of a radical movement.
470
00:23:15,852 --> 00:23:19,356
It sounds like the Medium post
you write after a divorce.
471
00:23:20,273 --> 00:23:22,692
Just like, "I don't know man,
Carol left me.
472
00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:26,238
Here are a bunch of thoughts.
It's a short 55-minute read.
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00:23:26,321 --> 00:23:27,364
Just leave me a comment."
474
00:23:28,532 --> 00:23:32,494
They've recently disavowed parts of it,
and I know why.
475
00:23:33,036 --> 00:23:35,497
It gets pretty Mein Kampfy in a few parts.
476
00:23:35,622 --> 00:23:38,291
Like when it says
there are three major internal threats,
477
00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:40,419
the Muslims, the Christians
and the Communists.
478
00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:42,671
Once again, you guys, Muslims.
479
00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:45,257
We're number one, baby.
480
00:23:46,967 --> 00:23:49,302
Now, the RSS is extreme.
481
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They've been banned in India�several times
for stoking violence.
482
00:23:54,516 --> 00:23:56,184
The toll of religious extremism
483
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,437
is something India has paid for
in the past.
484
00:23:59,479 --> 00:24:01,898
A Hindu nationalist
assassinated Mahatma Gandhi.
485
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:06,027
Now I know people are like, "Of course,
Hasan Minhaj, the spy from Qatar,
486
00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,447
is trying to divide India once again."
487
00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:12,576
But how could that be possible
when I'm already being paid by Iran?
488
00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:13,952
[thunder crashes]
489
00:24:15,245 --> 00:24:17,372
Now, you know why
the Saudis don't like me.
490
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:24,296
Hindu nationalists have been instigating
a culture of intimidation and violence
491
00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:27,966
towards a lot of religious minority groups
throughout India.
492
00:24:28,049 --> 00:24:32,179
[woman] Modi's most extreme�nationalist
supporters have routinely taken
493
00:24:32,262 --> 00:24:36,308
to the streets using violence
and intimidation to press their claim
494
00:24:36,391 --> 00:24:38,268
for a purely Hindu India.
495
00:24:38,351 --> 00:24:40,437
You see this trend throughout the country,
496
00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:43,773
but especially in the northern state
of Uttar Pradesh
497
00:24:43,857 --> 00:24:45,817
which will be very important
in the election.
498
00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:51,865
UP is the most populous state in India
with a bigger population�than Brazil.
499
00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:54,451
Yeah, and it has major electoral clout.
500
00:24:54,534 --> 00:24:57,412
Modi is heavily pushing
his nationalist agenda there,
501
00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,790
and he's doing it through one of India's
most hardcore�political figures,
502
00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:03,585
a monk named Yogi Adityanath.
503
00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:06,171
Two years ago, Modi made him
Chief Minister of UP
504
00:25:06,254 --> 00:25:09,174
and some believed he could succeed
Modi as prime minister,
505
00:25:09,257 --> 00:25:12,677
which is very scary
because he's a monk with a gun.
506
00:25:13,094 --> 00:25:15,347
If you don't have to commit crimes,
507
00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:19,267
why do you have a revolver
worth 100,000 rupees?
508
00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:21,978
Why do you have rifles
worth 80,000 rupees?
509
00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:25,857
Yes, I have these.
510
00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:27,901
As a monk,
511
00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:32,614
my training is in both discipline
and in weapons.
512
00:25:34,908 --> 00:25:36,201
Discipline and weapons.
513
00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:39,329
He's like, "I like to meditate,
but I also like to be strapped."
514
00:25:40,455 --> 00:25:42,791
If you're a little confused,
I understand why.
515
00:25:43,041 --> 00:25:47,295
This is an interview show
just shot on Judge Judy's set,
516
00:25:47,837 --> 00:25:50,924
and then apparently over here,
they just shoot Dancing with the Stars.
517
00:25:51,758 --> 00:25:55,178
Now remember, this is the guy
who the BJP is counting on
518
00:25:55,262 --> 00:25:58,431
to deliver votes, and he has
systematically used fear of minorities
519
00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:00,517
as a cultural wedge issue.
520
00:26:00,767 --> 00:26:03,103
Under Yogi Adityanath,
the state has changed the names
521
00:26:03,186 --> 00:26:05,689
of places throughout the UP
from Muslim names to Hindu names.
522
00:26:05,772 --> 00:26:07,190
And it isn't just Muslims,
523
00:26:07,274 --> 00:26:09,734
violence against all minorities
has gone up.
524
00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:13,363
Take for example�the phenomenon known
as cow lynchings.
525
00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:16,199
Thousands of people�have taken
to the streets across India
526
00:26:16,283 --> 00:26:19,160
to protest against rising attacks
on Muslims and Dalits
527
00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:21,746
by vigilante cow protection groups.
528
00:26:21,871 --> 00:26:26,543
Cows are a holy animal in Hinduism,
and vigilantes want to protect cows,
529
00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:29,963
are targeting Muslims
and a minority group called Dalits.
530
00:26:30,088 --> 00:26:32,966
[man] Religious minorities
have traditionally been free to farm
531
00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:37,762
and trade in cows, but there's been
a crackdown by right-wing politicians.
532
00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:41,516
The tough new stance
has not only fueled attacks on Muslims,
533
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,935
but also on lower-caste Hindu Dalits.
534
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:46,980
There were no reported lynchings in 2013,
535
00:26:47,522 --> 00:26:52,402
but since then, 46 people�have been killed
and 250 injured
536
00:26:52,485 --> 00:26:54,279
in cow-related violence.
537
00:26:54,404 --> 00:26:58,950
It's gotten so bad,�Dalits are routinely
victimized by the lynchings.
538
00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:03,288
And The New Yorker reported that
communal violence has jumped 28%
539
00:27:03,371 --> 00:27:04,581
during Modi's rule.
540
00:27:05,248 --> 00:27:08,001
This pattern
of growing religious nationalism,
541
00:27:08,084 --> 00:27:12,255
violence, disregard for institutions,
rampant misinformation,
542
00:27:12,339 --> 00:27:14,132
weak and corrupt opposition,
543
00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:16,635
we're seeing all of this around the globe.
544
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:22,015
Turkey, Hungary, Poland, Spain, Brazil,
the Philippines and now India.
545
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:25,894
Democracies are backsliding,
and it's not just me saying this.
546
00:27:26,227 --> 00:27:28,438
Indians feel that something is different.
547
00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:32,108
What is at stake is nothing short
of the future of this country.
548
00:27:32,192 --> 00:27:33,693
It's not an ordinary election.
549
00:27:33,943 --> 00:27:38,865
If 1977 was about deciding whether
India will remain democratic or not,
550
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:43,953
this election is about deciding whether
India will remain India or not.
551
00:27:44,037 --> 00:27:46,247
Something much deeper is at stake here.
552
00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:48,500
Something deeper is at stake.
553
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,836
Will India remain India or not?
554
00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:55,298
Will India define itself through inclusion
or exclusion?
555
00:27:55,423 --> 00:27:56,800
As the election heats up,
556
00:27:56,925 --> 00:28:00,387
it's much easier for candidates
to exploit the conflict in Kashmir
557
00:28:00,553 --> 00:28:01,805
for political gain
558
00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:05,058
than to address the economy�and deepening
divisions within the country.
559
00:28:05,141 --> 00:28:06,518
But that doesn't make sense.
560
00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:11,064
We don't need the threat
of nuclear warfare to flex nationalism.
561
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,191
That's why we have cricket.
562
00:28:15,068 --> 00:28:16,069
We know this.
563
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:18,029
Come on.
564
00:28:18,655 --> 00:28:20,281
We already know this, you guys.
565
00:28:21,282 --> 00:28:24,661
That India-Pakistan match
is nuclear warfare.
566
00:28:24,744 --> 00:28:27,247
And look, you gotta understand for me.
I gotta be honest with you.
567
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,165
I've always felt uncomfortable
568
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:31,501
'cause I have Indian
and Pakistani friends,
569
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:34,546
and I'll be on both sides,
and I'll just feel like I'm in the middle.
570
00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:37,674
I'll be at one friend's house,
"India, India!"
571
00:28:37,757 --> 00:28:40,051
I'll be at the Pakistani-- "Pakistan's
in the-- [speaks�foreign language]
572
00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:42,303
[hums]
Pakistan!
�"India won!"
573
00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:43,596
"Pakistan won." "No, India won."
574
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,266
"No, Pakistan won."
I'm like, "No, dude, the British won."
575
00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:51,104
And when it comes to this election,
576
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:55,191
India shouldn't allow itself
to be divided again.
577
00:28:55,942 --> 00:28:57,152
But what do I know?
578
00:28:57,944 --> 00:28:59,612
These are just a bunch of thoughts.
579
00:28:59,696 --> 00:29:02,741
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