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-[theme music playing]
-[crowd chanting]
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[siren wailing]
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[audience cheering]
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Hello!
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Thank you so much. Hello, how are you?
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I'm Hasan Minhaj.
This is our first episode of 2019!
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How are you?
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Thank you so much!
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Wow!
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.�Thank you.
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You guys, this is Patriot Act,
or as it's known in Saudi Arabia,
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Error 404, not found. [laughs]
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In case you don't know the full story,
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back in October, we did an episode�about
the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia
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Mohammed bin Salman
and his involvement in the killing
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of Washington Post journalist
Jamal Khashoggi,
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and the Kingdom wasn't thrilled.
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Well, Netflix under fire today
after its decision to pull an episode
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of a comedy show that was critical of
Crown Prince Mohammed bin�Salman.
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[man] Patriot Act, with "Hasan Majan"--
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-"Minhan"--
-[woman] Minhaj, yeah.
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Netflix confirmed it removed the episode
from streaming in Saudi Arabia
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after the country's Communications
and Information Technology Commission
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made a request that it take it down.
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A request?
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Does MBS think Netflix is a wedding DJ?
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I have a quick request.
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Just take down that one episode
that's criticizing me
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and then just play Usher's Yeah.
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A request is when a neighbor tells you
to turn the music down.
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A demand is when
that neighbor is Conor McGregor
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and you're in his parking spot.
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I still can't believe it.
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We got Saudi Arabia
to issue its very own Muslim ban.
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Netflix has received a request,
a legal request actually from Saudi Arabia
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to remove this episode.
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Saudi Arabian officials cited article six
of their anti-cybercrime law.
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Cybercrime.
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You're telling me, even in Saudi prison,
I'll be associated with the IT department.
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Okay, let's break down
how I became an Internet bad boy.
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According to article six
of the Saudi Arabian anti-cybercrime law,
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any content that impinges on public order,
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religious values
or public morals is prohibited.
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Of all the Netflix Originals,
the only show
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that Saudi Arabia thinks
violates "Muslim values"
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is the one hosted by a Muslim.
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Do you know what's still streaming
in Saudi Arabia?
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We got access to Netflix in Saudi Arabia
through an online proxy,
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which allows you to make it look like
your IP address is from another country.
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So, this is Netflix in Saudi Arabia.
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These shows are still streaming.
Sabrina, still up.
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It has literal devil worship
and a lot of premarital witch sex.
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BoJack Horseman.
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There's an alcoholic horse-man
who snorts cocaine.
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And let's not forget
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those evil cooking shows.
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Porky goodness! Vitamin P!
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Fat from the hog, a la natural.
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[woman] It must be like Christmas
every time you break open a new pig.
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This is Haram City.
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Not eating pork is the one rule
every Muslim agrees on.
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I have a cousin who's atheist,
and he'll be rolling a blunt, drinking,
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and he'll still be like, "Hey, man,
is there pepperoni on that pizza?"
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Look, I don't know if there's a God
but if there is one, he hates pepperoni.
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You know the most bizarre thing
about this entire censorship fiasco?
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Saudi Arabia was our second episode,
and you can see right here, it's missing.
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Okay? But in our last episode
in December, episode seven,
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we had another segment criticizing MBS,
and it was called "Saudi Arabia Update."
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Yeah, our episode titles
are super straight forward.
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They're like an email from your parents.
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The subject line tells you
exactly what you're gonna get.
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"Subject: Hasan,
I have a question about the Roku.
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Email: Hasan,
I have a question about the Roku."
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That episode�is still streaming
on Netflix in�Saudi Arabia.
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If you're going to crush
all forms of dissent, don't half-ass it.
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But that's what happens
when you got a country
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that's run by people who got their job
just because of their dad.
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Now, here's the irony.
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By censoring our episode,
Saudi Arabia made us go viral
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Have they never heard
of the Streisand Effect?
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It was great for the show,
I got 60 new IG�followers.
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It was great.
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This story...
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got covered by everyone
across the political spectrum.
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For the first time in my life,
I was a bipartisan icon. Yes!
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[cheering]
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Liberals and conservatives,
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they both embraced me
like I was money from Big Pharma.
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Cory Booker just bear hugged me like...
[roars]
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"Get over here, buddy."
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Even Breitbart defended me. Breitbart!
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You know how hard it was for Breitbart?
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They had to look at a picture of me
and MBS and be like,
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"Which one is browner?
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Is there a third option to hate?"
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So hard for them.
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Let me be absolutely clear,
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I'm not a victim here at all.
I'm lucky, okay?
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I have the freedom to call Saudi Arabia
"The Boy Band Manager of 9/11."
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I can criticize my own government
without any fear of repercussions.
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I can say Stephen Miller
deported his own hair for being brown.
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I can say those things...
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but those freedoms don't exist
in Saudi Arabia.
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Dozens of activists�sit in Saudi jails,
many without formal charges.
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So while I can make a joke
about being a "cyber-criminal,"
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this is no joke for many Saudi activists.
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According to Reprieve,
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a human rights advocacy group,
that vague cybercrime law
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that we allegedly broke,
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it is the very same law
that is regularly cited in Saudi court
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to justify death sentences,
like in the case of Ali al-Nimr,
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a teenager who was sentenced to death
for protesting and using his BlackBerry
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to spread information about protests.
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This isn't about just censoring
one episode of a TV show,
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it's about the�precedent.
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Because as tech companies keep expanding,
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they're going to keep running into
more vague censorship laws.
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Laws that can allow governments
to pull any content at any time.
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Ultimately,
Saudi doesn't care about "immoral content"
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that impinges on "religious values."
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They're mad that a Muslim
is airing out their dirty laundry.
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Now, look.
I've already been banned in one country.
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So I was thinking, "Look,
you're not built for this beef.
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Let's talk about something
a little less controversial."
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China.
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Don't worry!
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Netflix isn't in China.
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The only thing they binge watch
is their own people.
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China, of course,
has some of the toughest restrictions
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on the Internet.
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No Facebook.�No YouTube.
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[man] The Chinese Communist Party enforces
a draconian system of censorship,
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dictating what Chinese can search,
and they've done it for years.
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If you go to sites like Twitter,
Google and Facebook,
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this is what you get.
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If you can't see that screen,
that's exactly the point.
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China controlling its Internet
is a remarkable accomplishment
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that America never thought
would be possible.
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Now, there's no question�China has been...
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trying to crack down on the Internet.
[chuckles] Good luck.
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That's sort of like�trying to nail Jell-O
to the wall.
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That is such a creepy clip
to watch right now.
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Not just because
of how wrong he was about China.
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But because we're all picturing him
nailing Jell-O to the wall
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in the same way, right?
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With his penis? Okay, good.
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For China's 1.4 billion citizens
and 800 million Internet users,
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censorship is just part of life.
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China is so good at censorship,
they gave themselves five stars.
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In China,
censorship is a complex ecosystem
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of human beings,
telecom and tech companies
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and laws that all gives
the Communist Party
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and China's president Xi Jinping
the ability to control
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what can be seen on the Internet
in real time.
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It's something known as
"'The Great Firewall,"
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which I know sounds like
a dessert at PF Chang's,
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but there are whole pieces
of Chinese history that the government
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doesn't allow to be taught in schools.
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And they've been scrubbed
from the Internet.
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The last major political protest in China
was the spring of 1989.
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Thousands of people gathered
in Tiananmen Square
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to protest for democratic reforms.
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But on June 4, 1989, the Chinese Army
open fire on the crowd, killing citizens.
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And here are some Chinese millennials,
today being asked about it.
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Do you learn about�Tiananmen Square
in history books?
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Not mentioned.
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-[woman] Yeah, not mentioned.
-Not mentioned at all?
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That's crazy. That's like asking a kid
in high school, in America,
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if 9/11 is in their history book
and they're like, "9/11?
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The day Jay-Z came out
with The Blueprint?
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You'd be like,
"How is that in your history book?"
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So, if you're Chinese
and you're living in a world
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where the government decides
what you can and can't see,
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that must be some sort of
dystopian nightmare, right?
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You're in China, the government can know
everything about you.
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The government already know
everything about me.
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It's just if I'm not committing a crime,
I don't give a shit.
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The bottom line is the Chinese in general
are less concerned about data privacy
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than the consumers out in the West.
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There's some subtle rules in China,
but if you follow it,
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and respect it, you still have
the freedom to experience it.
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Remember, this is a rap battle organizer
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telling you to follow the rules.
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What a fucking nerd!
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If NWA started in China, "Fuck the Police"
would have been called,
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"Sorry, officer.
I'll try to be more careful next time."
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Yes, websites like Google,�Twitter,
Facebook and YouTube are all blocked,
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but no one cares because
they all have great Chinese doppelgangers
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like Baidu, Weibo, Youku
and WeChat,
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which blows Facebook out of the water.
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Life under censorship is pretty good.
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If you're just taking selfies, being thick
on Youku or shitposting on Weibo and...
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To anyone over 35, I swear to God,
most of those words were English.
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However, if you're an activist,
this is where things can get very scary.
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Especially under China's president,
Xi Jinping.
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Since coming to power,
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he has crushed all forms of dissent.
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China is carrying out a broad crackdown
on people accused
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of spreading so-called rumors online.
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Chung Ai-Ja, a former school counselor,
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showed us the message
she reposted on social media,
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an apparent jab
at China's President Xi Jinping.
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Police showed up at her school
to question her
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and days later, she was fired.
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Someone got fired
for insulting the president online?
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That's the only way to get a job
in my industry right now.
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How'd this all happen?
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President Xi has clamped down on NGOs,
locked up human rights lawyers
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and issued sweeping new cybercrime laws,
he even temporarily bans words
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and phrases like, "I disagree,"
"I oppose" and "my Emperor."
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Words that question his authority
and for some reason,
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he's also banned the words,
"roll up sleeves"
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and "I'm willing to be a vegetarian
for the rest of my life."
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I feel like the only explanation is that
President Xi had his heart broken
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by a stubborn vegetarian
with beautiful forearms.
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And he's like, "It is now illegal
to remind me of her!
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God, I miss Susan so much."
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Xi isn't just censoring words
and historic events,
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he is censoring huge news stories
in real-time.
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The Communist Party in China
is persecuting a Muslim minority group
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called Uighurs.
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But if you live in China,
chances are you don't know any of this.
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[woman] Across the Northwestern province
of Xinjiang,
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an estimated one million Chinese Muslims
have vanished into a vast network
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of detention enters for what China calls
"re-education."
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[man] After initially denying
the existence of prison camps,
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Beijing now says it is sending
an unspecified number of people
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for vocational training free of charge.
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Vocational training free of charge.
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Oh, I get it.
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America never had
Japanese internment camps.
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Those were desert getaways
for the Asian-American community.
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North Korea doesn't have labor camps,
they're WeWorks.
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There's no Wi-Fi.
Everyone is just really efficient.
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There's one more.
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You guys are like,
"Is he gonna keep going?"
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There's a third.
Bangladesh doesn't have sweatshops.
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Those are Bikram work spaces.
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China doesn't want the world to know
what's really happening
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in the detention centers.
Online people have to move fast
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to get information
before the government takes it down.
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and this is probably how it's going to be
for quite some time.
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China's ruling Communist Party
proposed Sunday to remove term limits
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on the office of President.
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That means Xi Jinping who heads the party
and the military
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may never have to leave office.
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Xi Jinping will never retire.
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It's the one thing he has in common
with millennials.
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Xi promotes a policy of cyber-sovereignty,
which he defines
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as the idea that China has the right
to control information within its borders
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and block whatever the CCP deems harmful.
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It basically lets them take down anything
they want, whenever they want.
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Even if it's completely random.
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Okay, so the British children's show
Peppa Pig
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is very popular with kids worldwide,
but it's being banned in China
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for an unexpected reason.
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The sassy cartoon character has come
to be associated with counterculture.
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[woman]
She allegedly promotes gangster attitudes.
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Peppa Pig is a gangsta?
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Is Thomas the Tank Engine
transporting Special K?
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What is going on? At some point,
the ban on Peppa Pig was lifted
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and that's why censorship
is such a mind fuck in China.
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The government is constantly changing
what's allowed and what's not.
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So activists and censors�are
in a constant game of cat and mouse.
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Activists are constantly having to find
new ways to evade the censors
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and then censors are always looking
for new ways to silence the activists.
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Take the case of Chen Guangcheng,
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known as CGC or the Blind Lawyer.
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[man] The Blind Lawyer became an icon
of human rights abuses in China
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after he exposed the way thousands
of women had undergone forced abortions.
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For seven years, he was held here
under illegal house arrest.
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He and his family beaten savagely,
guarded round the clock.
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Activists started the hashtag freeCGC
on social media
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and then censors immediately blocked
all the hashtags.
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To get around the censors,
activists then asked supporters
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to post selfies dressed up
as the Blind Lawyer.
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And they did,
and the response was incredible.
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Even though they all look like
they're auditioning to play BBQ Becky.
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But then something crazy happened.
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Mr. Chen has spent the last 18 months
under house arrest,
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but last Sunday, he escaped.
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A blind lawyer escaped house arrest?
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Can you imagine
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being the guard that let a blind lawyer
slip away?
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How could both of them not see anything?
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As people started finding out
Chen escaped, censors got to work,
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taking down his initials
and even the words "blind man."
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To get around the censors,
activists hit back
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with an incredibly powerful weapon.
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Memes.
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Now, I know in America, memes are
just used to humanize Squidward,
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but in China,
they're also a popular tool for dissent.
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In the case of the blind lawyer,
this meme went viral.
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Yeah, that's the pig from Angry Birds,
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staring at the tunnel
in the Shawshank Redemption.
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Shawshank memes became so popular,
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the censors blocked any mention
of The Shawshank Redemption.
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By the way,
for any people watching in China,
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Tim Robbins escapes from prison.
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You totally don't see it coming,
kind of like the blind lawyer escaping.
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Clearly, the CCP always has the upper hand
when it comes to censoring content.
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They have the resources,
the infrastructure, the manpower,
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all of which makes it really hard
for any grassroots movement
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to gain momentum.
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However...
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in the last year,
there's been a new movement
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that has started to take hold in China,
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and it may be unlike anything
that has ever come before it.
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[woman] MeToo, in the US it's been
championed by celebrities.
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In China, it's a fledgling movement
led mainly by university students.
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China's MeToo movement
has been called
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one of the first coordinated student
protest movements since Tiananmen Square.
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The MeToo movement is a unique problem
for the CCP
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because the Communist Party is technically
founded on egalitarian principles,
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the same way America�is technically
founded on the idea of democracy.
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And Maroon 5 is technically founded
on the idea of music.
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Even from the CCP's early days,
Mao famously said,
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"Women hold up half the sky."
The CCP's doctrine is equality for all.
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But that hasn't stopped them
from telling women
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what to do with their bodies.
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Once notorious
for its strict one-child policy,
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China now considering proposals
to push women to have more babies.
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Beijing is worried that having one
of the lowest birth rates in the world
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will undermine its efforts
to stimulate the economy.
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For years, they outlawed
having more than one child.
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Now, they're trying to shame single women
into getting married
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and having babies
by calling them "leftover women."
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Even Mike Pence wouldn't support this,
he'd be like,
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"Look, government isn't about
forcing women to have babies.
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it's about forcing women to keep them.
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Keep your eye on the ball, Xi."
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And he's like, "I'm sorry.
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I can't stop thinking about Susan.
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Maybe I should have compromised
and been a vegetarian."
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How insecure are you, CCP?
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They're basically one step away
from passing a law that says,
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all Chinese men have girlfriends.
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They just go
to a different high school, okay?
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But now that�MeToo has surfaced,
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it's clear women have had enough.
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They want the CCP to make good
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on the founding values
of the party, equality.
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And they're speaking out online in a way
they never have before.
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Despite censorship, a huge part
of why�MeToo has taken off
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is because of social media.
MeToo in China effectively started
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on January 1, 2018, after Luo Xixi,
a former PhD student
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posted on social media
claiming she'd been sexually assaulted
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by her adviser in 2004, which he denied.
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But the post blew up.
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Since Luo Xixi first reported the abuse
on Sina Weibo on January 1st,
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her complaint has been viewed
around five million times.
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[woman's voice] I stepped up
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simply because
I don't want other people to get hurt.
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But the discussion
and the reactions on the Internet
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and in Chinese society
have really surprised me.
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Censors eventually took down�a majority
of the�MeToo posts
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and the variations of the hashtag.
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That's when the arms race began.
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To dodge the sensors,�China's women
started using Chinese words
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that sounded similar to "Me Too."
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So, in Chinese "mi" means "rice"
and "t?" means "bunny,"
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so China's MeToo activists
became rice bunnies.
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Which if you listen to it,
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it kind of sounds like something
Steve Harvey got fired for saying.
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He's like,
"Hey, what's up, you rice bunny?"
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And they're like, "Steve!
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Why are you saying that?"
And he's like, "Think like a man."
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Activists posted rotated photos of text,
which makes messages unsearchable.
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It even used blockchain
to make a MeToo letter harder to delete,
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and that totally makes sense because
no one knows what the fuck blockchain is.
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Bitcoin's at 3,000.
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Since Luo Xixi's story hit Weibo,
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thousands of students have petitioned
their colleges
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for anti-harassment policies.
This is a big deal,
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because in China,
sexual harassment is rampant.
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[woman] A survey of 7,000 students
by NGO, the Guangzhou Gender Center,
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found while almost 70% of respondents
had been sexually harassed,
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only 4% reported it to the authorities.
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More than 50% of female commuters
have been assaulted
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while riding China's subways.
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Dozens of women have come forward
to accuse some pretty high-profile men.
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Like TV host Zhu Jun.
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He was accused
by a woman named Zhou Xiaoxuan,
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who claims he harassed her
when she was a 20-year-old intern
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and he was almost 50.
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Zhu has denied the allegations,
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but this was a huge deal because Zhu Jun
is one of China's most famous TV anchors
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known for hosting
the state New Year's Gala.
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[rooster crowing]
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[singing in Chinese]
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That was Zhu Jun
with a bunch of spring chickens,
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which also happens to be
his ideal age range on Tinder.
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Now, a big reason why so many women
have had to turn to social media is
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because if you're assaulted or harassed,
there are very few good legal options.
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China's legal system is poorly set up
for dealing with assault allegations.
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[man] There's no legal definition
of sexual harassment here
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and no standardized way
of reporting�sexual assault.
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China has very little recourse
for victims of sexual assault,
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and that's something�activists
have been fighting to change
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long before�MeToo.
Activists like Liang Xiaowen.
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She has organized protests
and co-founded a grassroots feminist NGO,
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which are risky things to do in China.
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So I sat down with her
to talk about her work
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The world is kind of hostile to women
who want things.
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It scares people because
women are standing up.
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Tell me about the things that
your family has had to go through
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because of your activism.
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Years ago,�I was trying to host a seminar
about women's rights,
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but then I received a call from my dad.
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He told me that not only the local police
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but also�his employer,
his boss is at his home now.
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So the police went to�friends
and co-workers
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-to talk to your dad?
-Yes.
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And the parents would go,
"Please don't do this."
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And that generally works
because Asian parents can crush dreams.
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Yeah.
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You hear that?
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That's the sigh of a thousand "A minuses."
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No. President Xi doing this...
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is some straight-up Naila Aunty bullshit.
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Like, "I'm not gonna go to you directly.
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I'll find the parents
to crush their dreams."
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And because of pressure from the police
through the parents
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and her family,
Xiaowen came to the United States to study
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and to continue to fight
for women's rights in China.
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What does the Chinese government
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think about the work you're doing?
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The Chinese government would consider us
to be Western hostile forces
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or being controlled
by Western hostile forces.
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What would they consider me?
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Well, if you were that important,
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then they would consider you
as Western hostile forces--
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-Are you saying I'm not important?
-Not in China.
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00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:30,450
-I'm sorry.
-Have they seen the show?
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00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:34,579
-I have seen your show.
-No, but have they seen the show?
437
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:37,624
-What show?
-The show you're on.
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-This show.
-I don't know.
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But if I'm in it, I promise that,
at least, some people will see it.
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Have they seen�The Spy Who Dumped Me?
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No, I don't know. I mean, I haven't.
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00:23:48,176 --> 00:23:50,595
Did they see MTV's Disaster Date
season four?
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Now you are just making things up.
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00:23:53,890 --> 00:23:54,933
No, I'm not!
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00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:58,228
Listen, Party Rock Anthem
had come out that year,
446
00:23:58,311 --> 00:24:01,773
and I thought Redfoo was going to be
the next Justin Timberlake.
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00:24:03,316 --> 00:24:06,570
Okay, Xiaowen's credits
are a bit more impressive than mine.
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She has worked closely with a group called
the Feminist Five,
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who made international headlines�back
in 2015.
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[singing in Chinese]
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[man] These women are singing
on the Beijing Subway
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to raise awareness
against abuse and discrimination.
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And here, dressing up
is blood-stained brides
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to encourage women to stand up
against domestic violence,
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but five of these women
were detained recently
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for what authorities called,
"picking quarrels."
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00:24:34,014 --> 00:24:37,767
It is hilarious to me
that men relegated women
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to secretarial work for decades,
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and now we turn around, and we're like,
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"Where did these women learn to organize
and plan meetings?
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Who is responsible for this?
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Why are they picking quarrels?"
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The global backlash
to the detention on the Feminist Five
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was so intense,
the CCP actually released the women
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after 37 days.
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I was going to be sentenced
over five years.
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They didn't beat me.
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00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:08,673
Yeah, they don't touch me
and maybe due to the--
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A lot of pressure from...
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internal and external.
471
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If they insulted my sexual orientation,
it doesn't work,
472
00:25:17,682 --> 00:25:19,726
That's it. 'Cause I'm a lesbian.
473
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,103
What's wrong?�What's up?
474
00:25:23,146 --> 00:25:25,565
Yeah, the CCP thought
Peppa Pig was gangsta?
475
00:25:25,982 --> 00:25:27,692
Nah, this is gangsta.
476
00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:30,820
Just a few months after
the Five were released,
477
00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:34,324
President Xi spoke
at the UN Women's Conference
478
00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:35,367
and said this...
479
00:25:35,492 --> 00:25:38,203
[woman's voice]
In many parts of the world however,
480
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:42,624
disparities remain
in the level of women's development.
481
00:25:42,707 --> 00:25:43,875
As we speak...
482
00:25:44,292 --> 00:25:48,797
various forms of discrimination
against women are still taking place.
483
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,133
Hmm... Interesting choice
to use a female translator.
484
00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,344
He's like see, "I give women a voice.
485
00:25:55,136 --> 00:25:56,012
What's next?
486
00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:57,222
Susan."
487
00:25:58,431 --> 00:26:02,269
In the past year,
MeToo has made some gains.
488
00:26:02,352 --> 00:26:05,647
What is the biggest victory
that you've seen,
489
00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:07,941
at the government level, of your activism?
490
00:26:08,191 --> 00:26:10,652
The first one happened last year,
491
00:26:10,735 --> 00:26:13,989
the new civil code explicitly...
492
00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:19,661
said that employers should not
sexually harass employees.
493
00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:24,124
And the second,
now people can sue under sexual harassment
494
00:26:24,207 --> 00:26:25,792
and gender discrimination.
495
00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:28,128
-That's major.
-It is.
496
00:26:28,211 --> 00:26:33,049
The CCP has agreed to add a definition
of sexual harassment
497
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:36,177
to China's civil code
and the Supreme Court says,
498
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:38,888
you can now file
a sexual harassment lawsuit
499
00:26:38,972 --> 00:26:40,640
for the first time in China.
500
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:44,603
Remember creepy TV host Zhu Jun?
Spring chickens? Remember him?
501
00:26:44,894 --> 00:26:49,107
Yes. He actually sued his accuser,
Zhou Xiaoxuan,
502
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:52,652
and then she counter-sued him
and is now trying to make her case
503
00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:56,197
a sexual harassment lawsuit,
and if it is accepted by the court,
504
00:26:56,281 --> 00:27:00,493
it would be the first-ever civil
sexual harassment lawsuit
505
00:27:00,577 --> 00:27:02,120
in Chinese history.
506
00:27:02,203 --> 00:27:04,372
This is very different
in the MeToo movement.
507
00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:07,500
People just don't let it go away anymore.
508
00:27:07,584 --> 00:27:10,795
People want these universities
to say something, to do something,
509
00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:12,297
to change the situation.
510
00:27:12,422 --> 00:27:14,174
It's not what it's like before.
511
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:17,302
People have suffered enough,
young women have suffered enough.
512
00:27:17,385 --> 00:27:19,346
They want-- They demand changes.
513
00:27:19,429 --> 00:27:22,682
The CCP and President Xi
are doing everything they can
514
00:27:22,766 --> 00:27:26,686
to consolidate power
and silence anyone who speaks out.
515
00:27:27,103 --> 00:27:30,523
China's MeToo movement is persisting
in the face of censorship,
516
00:27:30,607 --> 00:27:34,986
and it is inspiring, and we can only hope
that these small victories
517
00:27:35,403 --> 00:27:37,030
will lead to even larger ones.
518
00:27:37,614 --> 00:27:40,241
[audience cheering]
519
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:43,703
Thank you guys so much.
Appreciate it. Thank you!
520
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