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[people chattering]
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Bill Nye's just such
a charismatic individual,
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and he just inspires the enthusiasm
for the love of science, love of life.
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[announcer] Currently, he is travelingthe country speaking about climate change,
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science and space exploration.
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I grew up watching Bill Nye,
and it was live action,
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and, like, kids did it, and I was a kid.
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I was, like, "I could do this."
I'm a doctor.
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And, uh, I do
infectious disease, actually.
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I think science is everything. It connects us all.
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[announcer] While working on his TV show,
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he won a total of 18 Emmys in just five years.
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[man] When it was a rainy dayor the teacher wasn't feeling so well,
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you would just see the TV cart come in
and the VHS, and you just hear,
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"Bill, Bill, Bill!" That's how you knew.
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The whole class was so happy.
It was just a perfect moment.
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[crowd chanting] Bill! Bill! Bill!
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[announcer] Please join me in welcoming
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America's favorite scientistBill Nye the Science Guy.
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[upbeat music playing]
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[crowd cheering]
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[man on videotape] Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill!Bill Nye the Science Guy!
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[Bill Nye] Whoo!
Oh, I love you guys! Greetings!
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[whooping]
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[instrumental music playing]
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Just the start of things.
We're getting things wrapped up here.
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We're taxiing out. We're gonna take off,
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and we're gonna see if these wings develop
a difference in air pressure.
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[Nye] So it was really the 1990s
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that I started feeling badabout the United States,
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and its relationship to science.
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[indistinct]
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I wanted to make a world where youngpeople were excited about science again,
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and that set me on a quest.
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[man] Okay, Bill, go!
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It's a pretty good day for parasailing!
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[loud thud]
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[wind blowing]
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Bill himself was the face of
the Bill Nye the Science Guy show.
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Uh...
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But there really was this triangle,
the three creators of the show.
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Bill, Jim and Erren.
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There was this creative energy
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that I don't think has ever quite been replicated.
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Jim, writer-director,
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could really challenge Bill and bring outthe best in Bill,
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and Erren, who was the mama bearof the whole organization.
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She was the consummate producer.
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We should... Where is that home movie?
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So, all the video that we know of
that is left of the show is right here.
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[Erren Gottlieb] Oh, my gosh!
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This is all of the research.
Background information, shows...
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America needed scientists.
We'd see PBS stories,
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Time Magazine,Newsweeks about this crisis.
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There are no scientists out there.
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We're going, "Well, we've got
this scientist right here.
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We can do this." So we set out to makethis Bill Nye the Science Guy TV show.
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Oh, man. What a mug!
What a mug on this guy!
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That was pretty much a silly venture,
that we thought that we could produce
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this national show out of Seattle.
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But I don't think anyone ever expectedthat it would become what it became.
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The main stage where most
of the show took place
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is right on the other side
of that brick wall,
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and one of the most popular shows
is the gravity show.
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And we threw stuff off that roof.
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[static]
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The pull of gravity isn't so strong thatwe can't raise our arms or anything,
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but it does pull on everythingall the time.
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Now, we can test this.
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This is an old idea, but a good one.
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Watermelon!
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Ah!
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A computer, sure!
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I think the zaniness, uh,
was a great tension reliever
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for all the kids in the audience who wereafraid they couldn't understand something.
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Before they knew what was happening,
they understood.
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Science!
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He's the science teacher we all wish
we had in elementary school
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or in middle school,
high school or even college.
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Here's the fastest thing in the universe. It's light!
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Light goes 300,000 kilometersevery second.
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[electricity buzzing]
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Things in the universe...
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[Neil deGrasse Tyson] The Science Guy showcontained the science that excited Bill,
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and you, the viewer, can't help but be
just as excited as the instructor.
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It was a game changerfor an entire generation of people.
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There's only 92naturally occurring elements.
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But if you think about it, you can thinkof a lot more than 92 things.
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[explosion]
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They're all made of the elements listedon this table.
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So they're grouped together...
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[Emily Graslie] Bill Nye days in school were the best.
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When the teacher plugged in the VCR,
you knew you were going to walk away
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having learned something,
and having enjoyed learning something.
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Which, for some reason,
is a novel thing in schools.
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See the air rushing over the blades of grass,
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taking carbon dioxide from the air,
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light from the sun and water...
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the grass is making its own food. It's growing.
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The point was, anybody can be a scientist.
Any kid. Anybody.
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[goofy sound effects]
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The cone built up the negative charge. That's what pulled the water molecules.
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[both] Static!
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We always told Bill that he should be
the next Carl Sagan. That's the plan.
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Science is a self-correcting process.
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To be accepted, new ideas must survive
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the most rigorous standardsof evidence and scrutiny.
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The suppression of uncomfortable ideas maybe common in religion or in politics,
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but it is not the path to knowledge,
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and there's no place for itin the endeavor of science.
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[Nye] I studied mechanical engineeringat Cornell University.
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I decided to take astronomyfrom this famous professor, Carl Sagan.
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He was a great scientist, and when I hadmy chance to do my Science Guy show,
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I went back to Carl Sagan.
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And he said,"You should focus on pure science.
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Don't do science demonstrations withoutdescribing the bigger idea."
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What he said was,kids resonate to science.
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That was the verb he used. Resonate.
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And I really embraced that.
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I will now open the door with my mind.
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I am influencing physical objectsaround me with the power of my brain.
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Do you think I did, or did it just look that way?
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We have a saying in science.
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"Extraordinary claimsrequire extraordinary proof."
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The process of testing claims, the worldis flat, the world is round,
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is what we call science.
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There has always been this little behind-
the-scenes thing between scientists.
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"Is Bill really a scientist?
He doesn't have a PhD."
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We catapulted Bill into who he is.
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But it is a big step to go from thistelevision host, kid goofy guy,
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to a really well-respected expert.
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[whirring]
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[whistling]
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[blows]
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[Nye] So the Science Guy show is over.
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We did 100 shows. It almost killed me,
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and I gotta move on to something bigger.
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But the frustrating thing is,
I would continually be asked to be on
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the news as a commentator,
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about the weather especially,
and about climate change.
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Bill, over to you.
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The problem is, we're just burning carbon
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and spewing carbon dioxide in the
atmosphere at an extraordinary rate.
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What Bill Nye just did was waste
everyone's time explaining
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that C02 is rising.
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Bill Nye is just going around saying,
"C02 is up.
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Therefore, global warming is dangerous.
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We should be concerned." It's not.
It's not dangerous.
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The world is getting warmer.
It's continually getting warmer.
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If I'm right, the reversals will lead to
a degree, to a degree and a half cooling.
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If you're right, they're not.
But what are we worried about right now?
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Okay.
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[Nye] We have this increasing
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anti-science movementin the United States.
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Our president is worriedabout global warming.
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What a ridiculous situation.
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All right, that was Donald Trump
calling out President Obama.
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It seems our commander in chief is...
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[Nye] It's worse than ever.
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The anti-science movement is more powerfulthan it's ever been.
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Charles Darwin never thought of evolution
as anything other than a theory.
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He hoped that someday it would be proven
by the fossil record,
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but did not live to see that, nor have we.
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[Nye] The longer we put off doingsomething about it,
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the more serious it's gonna get.
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It's this problem where the anti-sciencepeople have been so successful.
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I mean, there's this guy in Kentucky
who doesn't believe in evolution,
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who doesn't believe in the fundamental
idea in all of biology.
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[Ken Ham] I don't believe that at all.
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I don't believe that dinosaurs livedmillions of years ago,
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and I certainly don't believe
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that you came from ape-like creatures,or anything like that.
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I mean, did your grandfatherlook like that?
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[kids laughing]
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I don't think so.Does your grandmother look like that?
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No, not at all. You're very, very different to...
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[Nye] If we raise a generation of kids,
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they can't think critically,they can't think scientifically,
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we're headed for trouble.
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We don't believe in evolution,
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and I certainly don't believe that lifecame about by chance,
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random processes millions of years agoin some soup in the sea,
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life was formedand then one kind of animal...
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What has evolutiongot to do with engineering?
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I mean, Bill Nye himself actuallyis not a scientist.
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He studied mechanical engineering.
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As a science educator, I'm really more
serious about it than ever,
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these people who are denying science,
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denying evolution,
denying the efficacy of vaccinations,
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and especially denying
human-caused climate change.
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We just can't have this.
We've got to fight this fight.
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I have got to fight this fight.
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[people chattering]
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[growling]
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[Nye] Now, this is
scientifically inaccurate.
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Humans and ancient dinosaurs
did not live at the same time.
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The evidence for that is overwhelming,
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and to suggest this to schoolchildren
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It's very troubling.
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[snarling]
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The Head Minister, Ken Ham,
challenged me to a debate.
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And after consideration, I accepted it.
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[Eugenie Scott] Ken Ham is the most successful creationist
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in the United States.
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I first heard about the debate
when Bill sent me an email saying,
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"Hey, I've signed a contract
to debate Ken Ham.
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Can I talk to a couple of your people?"
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[chuckles] And I wrote back saying,
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"Seriously? Do you realize
what you've gotten into?"
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Debates between scientistsand science deniers
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could be a trap that scientistsprobably should not get involved in.
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[Nye] Well,
they present Lucy as a gorilla.
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And in mainstream science,
Lucy stands upright.
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And she has a lot less hair.
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You will not see that
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Understand that in mainstream science,
when we find this, we consider evidence.
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[Jerry Coyne] The Creation Museumis a temple of ignorance,
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but it's also a temple of lies.
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And warping the minds of children,
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which is what the Creation Museum
is dedicated to doing,
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is one of the most awful and mendacious
things I think anybody can do.
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[recording of gunfire
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There's a lot of anxiety
and concern about evolution,
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because people see it as somehow
incompatible with religious beliefs.
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I'm a believer in God myself,
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and I don't, at the present time,
see any conflicts between understanding
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the nature of living things and how
they're related to each other,
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and what I believe as someone
who perceives God as the creator.
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You can find fossils in the DNA of humans.
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Genes that don't work anymore, and haven't worked for a long time.
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They're called "pseudo genes,"
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and they're on the same place in the humanas they are in the chimpanzee.
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Unless you're gonna say that God wasplaying a trick by hiding some sort of
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misleading clue, you have to concludethat we had a common ancestor.
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Bill has an opportunity,
and has taken that on
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in his discussion with Ken Ham,
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to try to explain
what the scientific facts are.
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I'm Tom Foreman from CNN,
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and I'm pleased to be tonight's moderator
for this evolution-versus-creation debate.
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And now let's welcome our debaters,
Mr. Bill Nye and Mr. Ken Ham.
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[cheering and applause]
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[Tom Foreman]
Mr. Ham, you opted to go first.
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You cannot ever prove, using, uh,
the scientific method in the present,
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you can't prove the age of the Earth.
So you can never prove it's old.
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Mr. Nye?
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Well, of course this is where we disagree.
You can prove the age of the Earth
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with great robustness.
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Radiometric dating does exist.
The universe is accelerating.
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These are all provable facts.
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I just want people to understand too
that there's aspects about the past
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that you can't scientifically prove
because you weren't there.
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We can be investigating, uh, the present.
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Understanding the past
is a whole different matter,
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and, uh, let me just say this.
My answers...
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[Coyne] To say that evolutionis somehow questionable
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because we only have the historicalremnants of the process
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is a complete misunderstandingof how science operates.
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We have so much evidence
in the fossil record.
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We have so much evidence from our DNA.
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We have so much evidence from embryology
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that you don't need to see it happen,
because we have the historical record.
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It's like trying to deny
that Napoleon existed.
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Mr. Nye, the next question is for you.
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How did the atoms that created
the Big Bang get there?
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This is the great mystery.
This is what drives us.
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This is what we want to know.
Let's keep looking. Let's keep searching.
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Bill, I just want to let you know that
there actually is a book out there
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that tells us where matter came from.
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[audience laughing]
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Mr. Ham, this is a simple question,
I suppose,
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but one that actually is fairly profound
for all of us in our lives.
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What, if anything,
would ever change your mind?
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[Ham] Hmm.
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Well, the answer to that question is,
I'm a Christian.
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And the Bible is the word of God.
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No one is ever gonna convince me
that the word of God is not true.
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[Foreman] Mr. Nye?
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[Nye] We would just need
one piece of evidence.
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We would need evidence
that the universe is not expanding.
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We would need evidence that the stars
appear to be far away, but they're not.
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That rock layers can somehow
form in just 4,000 years.
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Bring on any of those things,
and you would change me immediately.
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[Scott] That last question just socrystallized this whole debate,
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and I think the answers of both
Ken and Bill were very, very telling.
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Is Ken Ham's creation model viable?
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I... I say no. Absolutely not.
Thank you very much.
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-Thanks so much to Mr. Nye and Mr. Ham...
-[audience cheering]
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...for an excellent discussion.
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Thank you. Goodnight from Petersburg,
Kentucky and the Creation Museum.
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[tweeting]
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[keyboard clacking]
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-May I touch these things?
-Sure.
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I know you're not supposed
to touch science demonstrations.
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That's conventional Newton,
but what happens here
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when they're in different, uh...
Oh, it's a wave. That's beautiful.
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There was a point where I had thought
that Bill Nye was dead,
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because he was no longer putting out
any kind of informational videos
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trying to teach kids about science.
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-[woman] Love you, Bill!
-Thank you. Good morning. Good morning.
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He did disappear for a little bit,
and everybody was, like,
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"Where did the Science Guy go?"
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What is he, "Soil Man"? Who is he?
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Well, we are teaching forensics,
and he is our, uh...
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He's dead.
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[audience cheering]
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[Nye] It's the National ScienceTeacher Convention.
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These are the people, man.
These are the science teachers.
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They're really the fans.
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People still watch
Bill Nye the Science Guy in school.
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Teachers showed it in class
for years and years.
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Greetings, greetings!It's great to see you all,
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and I'm very happy that,as I understand it,
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I've been teachinga lot of your classes this year.
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[audience laughing]
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Here we go.
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[indistinct chatter]
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-Whoa, whoa.
-One more, Bill, thank you.
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There you are. Hey.
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-Thank you.
-Cool.
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-Hey, cool.
-Thank you.
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[exclaims]
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Hey...
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Go, go, go! [exclaims]
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-Three, two...
-We got it. Yeah, yeah.
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We don't need a countdown. Just go for it.
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You've gotta reach out. You've gotta go.
Gotta turn it around.
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-Catch up!
-All right, all right!
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How hard can it be? I'm not sprinting.
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Reach out, man. You're too close.
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I was asked to talk about selfie fatigue,
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and I haven't.
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I'm pretty sure it shortens your life.
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[exhales]
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[audience cheering]
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Now, you may have heard
about this thing I did last year.
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I went to Kentucky and I took a meeting
with this guy
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who insists that the Earth
is 6,000 years old.
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[laughing]
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So, along this line, the next morning,
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maybe you guys saw this,
it was all over the Internet.
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[audience laughing]
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Bill Nye knows a lot of science, but when
he gets off into evolution, he's lying.
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Dogs are always gonna be canines.
They always will be.
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Felines will be felines.
That's real science.
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"Client requests that Bill steer clear
of any controversial topics."
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"We also live in a pretty
conservative state,
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so the climate-change
environmental conversation
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wouldn't be well-received by some members
of our audience, unfortunately."
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That is unfortunate.
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The main thing everybody could do
about climate change is talk about it.
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[cheering]
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Hi, you guys. Greetings, greetings.
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High five. Yes. Cool. Hi, you guys.
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[woman] I love science.
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We're reaching the end of the line.
I love you guys! Carry on. One more! Ah!
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The message I want to get across today is
that climate change is serious business.
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[crowd cheering]
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Why is this country, which,
for over a century,
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was the world leader in science,
engineering and innovation...
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[Nye] Nowadays I'm talking to adults,and I'm not mincing words.
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The climate is changing. It's our fault.
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We've gotta get to work on this.
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So Sarah Palin was on this panel.
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"Bill Nye is as much
of a scientist as I am.
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He's a kid's show actor.
He's not a scientist."
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I want people to feel empowered to askquestions about what is being fed them
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from the science community, um...That, uh,
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something's not makinga whole lot of sense
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when it comes to inconsistent data that is being produced and being fed,
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especially to our children,
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when it comes to global warmingor climate change.
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Whatever they're calling it today.
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Man. That they can get on the news,
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and by "them," I mean
climate-change deniers,
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they really are leaving the world
worse than they found it.
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[man on video] Some of the most trustednames in the weather business
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dispute that global warming exists.
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It turns out your favoriteTV meteorologist
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may have more clout than you think.
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Surveys show Americans are more likelyto believe weather forecasters
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than politicians,when it comes to global warming.
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And many of those forecasters insist
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that climate change posesno imminent threat.
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To think that we could affect weatherall that much is pretty arrogant.
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Mother Nature is so big. I think we'regonna die from a lack of fresh water,
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or we're gonna diefrom ocean acidification
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before we die from global warming,for sure.
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So, I was on CNN in the morning,
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and I made an offhanded comment.
We were talking about floods in Louisiana.
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You know, here at CNN you have
a climate-change denier meteorologist.
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I doubt this one is even right.
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[Nye] Knock yourselves out,but this is a big problem.
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And the next morning
Chad Myers posted this,
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succinctly saying,
"I have now changed my mind.
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Had I flip-flopped?
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Well, that is what it would be
called in politics, but in science,
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it's just an evolution of understanding."
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As I tell my 11-year-old,
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it's okay to be wrong,
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as long as you learn from your mistakes.
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Chad Myers, I love you, man.
If we can get more,
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as they're called nowadays,
thought leaders changing their minds,
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maybe we can change the world.
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[dog barking]
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[toy train whistling]
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[bell tolling]
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[Nye] Load up some barrels.
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[Nye whistling]
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Here's the mark. Whoops.
That's got it. We're done.
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[Nye laughing]
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Look, a couple of them land upright.
Come on.
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But my brother has positioned this
building so close to the track,
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it can't get the barrels to land
in their official barrel catcher.
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Look out! Okay, I'm gonna do it. Whee!
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[laughing]
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So, our dad enabled this hobby.
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[Darby Nye] He helped me with it.
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He's the one that bought the trains
in the first place for me.
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[Nye] This car is 70 years old.
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[Darby] It's from a set from 1955.
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A lot of the dates are stamped on the car.
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So 1955 was 61 years ago?
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-[Darby] Sixty-one.
-Yeah.
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That's a long time ago.
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We're pretty close, Darby.
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[toy train whistling]
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This is the house where my family grew up.
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My parents built this house,
and apparently, at that time,
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this was out in the country.
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[rapid wooden rumbling]
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That is a sound from my youth,
people, right there.
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So, in here's the laundry room.
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Right here is where I was
Bill Nye, boy scientist.
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But this is where I used to do
science experiments.
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This was my little space
right about here.
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[Nye] Darb, were you herewhen Dad fell down the stairs?
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[Darby] He was carrying laundry.
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He was doing somethinghe shouldn't have done.
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[Nye] Well, that's what you guys say.
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But he was doing a thing that,
to an able-bodied person, is routine.
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This is what my sister talks
about all the time.
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You just... You forget that
you can't do regular stuff.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Steve Wilson] Bill is probably oneof the best friends I have.
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The first time we met, Bill was in
a Steve Martin lookalike contest.
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He was a guest and so I miked him up.
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He is true blue.
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He's always there. He's a good guy.
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[Nye] So I'm gonna try the mystery song.
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[Wilson speaking]
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Oh, it's, uh...
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Um, Angie, "The Christmas Tree Angel."
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["The Christmas Tree Angel" playing]
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So, my mom used to sing this song.
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And I thought... Listen to that.
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Here they all come.
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I used to cry. This is my mom.
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Wils, you're a mensch, man.
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[laughing]
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♪ All dressed up in stardust and tinsel ♪
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Amazing.
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♪ Have a merry, merry, merryChristmas said she ♪
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[seagulls cawing]
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[waves breaking]
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[Nye] My mom was a big believerin women doing everything.
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During World War II, she was in the Navy.
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She was recruitedto work on the Enigma code.
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And so, she wasn't Rosy the Riveter.
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She was Rosy the Top-Secret Code Breaker.
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We had a very good family
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My brother and sister loved me.
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We remain very close.
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[Susan] Our family has a genetic problem. It's called "ataxia."
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It affects our, uh,
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motor coordination
and our speech sometimes.
477
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My brother Darby and I,we both seem to be affected by it.
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The ataxia, this thing where you fall
backwards and you catch yourself...
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You start to fall backwards...
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It's cerebellar,
and it's related to balance.
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I've seen my brother do it,
I saw my dad do it.
482
00:31:58,125 --> 00:31:59,418
And my sister...
483
00:31:59,501 --> 00:32:02,337
-Well, she's way past that, I gotta say.
-[Wilson] Okay. Yeah.
484
00:32:03,422 --> 00:32:08,301
So every time I lost my balance,
I'd presumed it was ataxia, so, uh...
485
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:10,804
And part of the reason that, you know,
486
00:32:10,887 --> 00:32:12,764
-I never had kids and stuff...
-[Susan] Well, sure.
487
00:32:12,848 --> 00:32:15,559
...is because I was afraid
of passing this on.
488
00:32:15,642 --> 00:32:16,768
[Susan] Right. Absolutely.
489
00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:38,373
[laughing]
490
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,877
What are you laugh... She's, you know...
491
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,837
Because I can't stand up.
492
00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:46,256
That is funny, you know.
493
00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:48,508
That's the fence.
494
00:32:50,135 --> 00:32:53,763
[Susan] Bill's so charming to help usget along in life.
495
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,517
-[Nye] Do you want your little feetsies?
-[Susan] I do.
496
00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:02,272
And he helps us to cope withwhat we have to deal with.
497
00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:06,151
[Nye] That's true.
498
00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:09,029
-[Susan] You don't need to...
-[Nye] I was the obnoxious kid.
499
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:21,041
[beeping]
500
00:33:22,751 --> 00:33:24,336
[Amy Bastian] Hold it there.
501
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:26,838
Okay, you can move your right arm
into the next triangle.
502
00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:29,508
Go the other direction. Finger.
503
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,801
Nose.
504
00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:33,678
Finger.
505
00:33:38,642 --> 00:33:41,228
I don't see any change at all
from the last time we saw you.
506
00:33:41,311 --> 00:33:42,395
-Oh, really? That's--
-Two years ago.
507
00:33:42,479 --> 00:33:46,274
And right now I don't see
anything that looks ataxic.
508
00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:58,870
All right. I'm gonna look
at your eyes now.
509
00:33:58,954 --> 00:34:01,456
What I want you to do
is focus right on my nose.
510
00:34:01,831 --> 00:34:04,125
Open 'em nice and wide for me.
Now look at my finger.
511
00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:07,754
So you can see the beading
movements of her eyes?
512
00:34:09,005 --> 00:34:10,465
And now look at my nose.
513
00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:15,428
Good, Susan. And slide it down.
514
00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:19,349
Okay. Let's switch sides.
515
00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:23,311
[Nye] I really worry about my sister falling,
516
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:24,980
or if something goes wrong.
517
00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:31,319
Because I watched how ataxia
affected my dad's life,
518
00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:33,446
and look how it affected my sister's life.
519
00:34:36,449 --> 00:34:40,245
So, I may have
a so-called survivor's guilt,
520
00:34:40,662 --> 00:34:43,081
where, "I don't have it?
521
00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:44,958
Do I deserve to not have it?
522
00:34:45,709 --> 00:34:48,461
What did I do that allows me
to not have it,
523
00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,089
where my beloved brother
and sister do have it?
524
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:54,718
What happened?
Do I owe the world a living?
525
00:34:56,511 --> 00:34:59,764
If I were to have kids,
would they not have gotten it?"
526
00:35:02,809 --> 00:35:05,604
I am aware of how fortunate I am.
527
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:09,941
It makes me all the more...
It motivates me all the more to do
528
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:13,028
something to leave
the world better than I found it.
529
00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:30,170
Hey! Dude. Man.
530
00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:32,339
-How you doing?
-Good.
531
00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:34,633
[Tyson] So what did you bring?
532
00:35:35,091 --> 00:35:36,176
[Nye] Some Aveeno.
533
00:35:36,885 --> 00:35:40,263
Very nice. What's gonna happen is,
if I'm drinking wine with my man here,
534
00:35:40,513 --> 00:35:42,682
it's gonna have to be cosmic.
Just so you know.
535
00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:45,560
[Nye] That's right.
He's proud of his 'stache.
536
00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:47,145
[Tyson] Here you go.
537
00:35:47,228 --> 00:35:49,064
-Rocket science!
-Yes!
538
00:35:51,024 --> 00:35:52,859
That's the bottle I'm drinking with Bill.
539
00:35:55,779 --> 00:35:59,616
[Nye] We're living at this extraordinary
time where people are anti-science.
540
00:36:00,283 --> 00:36:02,452
Anti-science in the country
541
00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:07,624
that got to be preeminent
through its innovation.
542
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:09,793
-[Tyson] Okay. Let me get on your case.
-[Nye] All right.
543
00:36:10,085 --> 00:36:12,671
-There's an entire generation of people...
-I know.
544
00:36:12,754 --> 00:36:16,091
...who grew up looking at you in their
elementary school classroom.
545
00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:18,426
I know. It's all me.
546
00:36:18,551 --> 00:36:20,970
-[laughing] It's all your fault!
-It's my fault.
547
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:23,682
-Whatever I did wrong...
-Where have you failed?
548
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:29,062
You had as much street cred as is possible
among schoolchildren.
549
00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:33,191
But somebody's gotta believe you more
than a childhood educator.
550
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:34,234
Yeah, yeah.
551
00:36:34,317 --> 00:36:37,237
But I knew you had it in you.
I knew. We knew. We knew it.
552
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,321
I went to the board...
553
00:36:38,405 --> 00:36:41,282
[Tyson] I serve on the boardof the Planetary Society.
554
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:45,537
Carl Sagan founded
the Planetary Society back in 1980.
555
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,248
[music playing on TV]
556
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,966
Mars is the world next door.
557
00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:03,012
The nearest planet on whichhuman explorers could safely land.
558
00:37:03,346 --> 00:37:04,889
[man on TV] The Planetary Society,
559
00:37:04,973 --> 00:37:07,976
with Cornell University astronomerCarl Sagan as its president,
560
00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:10,562
is the largest space interest groupon this planet,
561
00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:14,149
with some 125,000 membersin over 60 of Earth's nations.
562
00:37:14,649 --> 00:37:19,320
I and other board members determined
that the best thing for the society
563
00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:23,742
would be to have Bill become its CEO.
564
00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,419
So, here's gonna be where
the work's gonna get done.
565
00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:37,547
Look at all of the space we have
for people. "Space," get it?
566
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,638
Before Bill took over, we had been
in a low point for some time.
567
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:52,145
And Bill coming onboard startedto change us really dramatically.
568
00:37:53,521 --> 00:37:57,650
One thing that's very important to Bill isthe Planetary Society's solar sail launch.
569
00:37:58,443 --> 00:38:00,570
It's been our mission since 1980.
570
00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:01,488
[Johnny Carson] Isn't this interesting.
571
00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:06,367
Well, there's just a tremendously excitingprospect called "solar sailing."
572
00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:10,622
-"Solar sailing"?-And this is a very crude model.
573
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,833
And it works exactlyas an ordinary sailboat does,
574
00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:19,005
but it would travel on the radiationand particles that come out of the sun.
575
00:38:19,214 --> 00:38:20,423
The wind from the sun.
576
00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:25,970
[Tyson] If you look at old footage ofCarl Sagan on The Tonight Show,
577
00:38:26,054 --> 00:38:29,307
it's Carl Sagan unfurling a model
of a solar sail,
578
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:32,977
describing that to Johnny Carson
and to the American public.
579
00:38:37,941 --> 00:38:42,278
[Ann Druyan] Carl was so excitedabout the solar sailing project.
580
00:38:42,904 --> 00:38:47,492
What could be more mythic
than riding the light?
581
00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:58,628
[Nye] At the Planetary Society,we are gonna launch LightSail.
582
00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,299
When this thing gets in space,
583
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:10,139
Mylar sheets are deployed, and the photonsfrom the sun will give it a push.
584
00:39:17,063 --> 00:39:18,940
You never run out of fuel.
585
00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:22,360
You could greatly lower the cost
586
00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:26,197
and make space exploration accessibleto many, many more people.
587
00:39:37,166 --> 00:39:38,835
We will be able to launch spacecraft
588
00:39:38,918 --> 00:39:41,421
and take them fartherand deeper into space.
589
00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:54,434
[Druyan] It's the best shot we haveat getting to travel out into the cosmos
590
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:57,687
on the scale of even the nearest stars.
591
00:40:06,029 --> 00:40:08,114
This is my office. This will be my office.
592
00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:12,076
Carl Sagan changed my life,and I am honored
593
00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:16,915
to be the CEO of the society thathe started. The Planetary Society.
594
00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:45,276
[indistinct chatter]
595
00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:53,701
[marching band playing]
596
00:40:56,704 --> 00:40:58,915
[cameras clicking]
597
00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:04,420
[crowd applauding]
598
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:11,678
People from all over the world
have heard of Noah's Ark.
599
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,139
People say, "What are you really doing
here? What statement are you making?"
600
00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:17,767
See, people haven't been taught
genetics correctly,
601
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:20,895
haven't been taught about speciation
and natural selection correctly.
602
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,690
We're gonna correct that in here and undo
603
00:41:23,773 --> 00:41:26,025
the brainwashing
that's occurred, uh, through...
604
00:41:26,109 --> 00:41:27,652
[crowd cheering]
605
00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:31,322
I'm gonna challenge Bill Nye'sevolutionary worldview. So, Bill,
606
00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:34,784
you're invited to come, and I'llpersonally tour you through the Ark.
607
00:41:34,867 --> 00:41:36,619
You can do it ahead of opening,if you want,
608
00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:39,580
or you can do it after opening. Whatever.
609
00:41:48,798 --> 00:41:52,802
As we stand here, the Juno spacecraft just
went into orbit around Jupiter,
610
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:58,349
which is an extraordinary accomplishment
of engineering and rocket science.
611
00:41:58,433 --> 00:41:59,809
Here's anti-science.
612
00:42:01,310 --> 00:42:03,688
[crowd applauding]
613
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:08,651
What do you say to those who
scoff at dinosaurs on the Ark?
614
00:42:09,318 --> 00:42:12,321
People have so many misconceptions
about dinosaurs.
615
00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:15,783
You know, Bill Nye scoffs at me for
believing dinosaurs were on the Ark,
616
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,996
but people like Bill Nye believe dinosaurs
grew feathers and became birds.
617
00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:21,664
-It comes down to beliefs.
-[crowd laughing]
618
00:42:21,748 --> 00:42:24,751
It's a clash of worldviews.
That's what it's all about.
619
00:42:24,834 --> 00:42:26,419
[crowd applauding]
620
00:42:28,588 --> 00:42:31,215
It's not a problem with religion. I'm hip.
621
00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:33,885
The Earth's not 6,000 years old.
622
00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:36,095
It is inappropriate
to teach that to young people.
623
00:42:37,597 --> 00:42:39,015
[man speaking Spanish]
624
00:42:48,274 --> 00:42:51,194
Well, I know enchilada and taco and...
625
00:42:51,444 --> 00:42:52,570
[people laughing]
626
00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:57,450
Speciation is not evolution, because
dogs actually always remain dogs.
627
00:42:57,533 --> 00:43:01,162
It's one of the things we've observed,
and cats always remain cats.
628
00:43:01,245 --> 00:43:02,622
-We've observed that too.
-[crowd applauding]
629
00:43:02,705 --> 00:43:05,124
Oh, and by the way, elephants always
remain elephants.
630
00:43:05,208 --> 00:43:06,918
[people laughing]
631
00:43:32,235 --> 00:43:34,987
[recorded animal calls]
632
00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:39,951
[Nye] This looks like an apatosaurus,
or a something...
633
00:43:40,034 --> 00:43:41,452
[Ham] Yeah, it's a sauropod. Yeah.
634
00:43:41,536 --> 00:43:47,250
Your claim is that a family built this
enclosure for ancient sauropods.
635
00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:50,920
-For each kind of land animal.
-And then the sauropods disappeared.
636
00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:53,756
Oh, lots of animals have disappeared.
637
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,341
I mean, that's why
we have endangered species--
638
00:43:55,424 --> 00:43:57,468
But it happened in the last 4,000 years?
639
00:43:57,552 --> 00:43:59,137
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
640
00:43:59,887 --> 00:44:03,224
[Ham] Would you allow someone
to teach the possibility
641
00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:06,269
that God created them
in the public schools?
642
00:44:06,352 --> 00:44:07,353
-No.
-Okay.
643
00:44:07,436 --> 00:44:09,188
-Not in science class.
-Mm-hmm.
644
00:44:09,272 --> 00:44:13,025
In religion class, in history class,
philosophy class.
645
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:14,443
But that's not science.
646
00:44:14,527 --> 00:44:16,779
But you said your belief was everything
happened by natural processes,
647
00:44:16,863 --> 00:44:19,031
and they're teaching that
religion in the science class.
648
00:44:19,115 --> 00:44:20,366
-Well, you're calling it a religion.
-Yeah, it is.
649
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:21,826
We're calling it "the process of science."
650
00:44:21,909 --> 00:44:23,536
-No, but it is a religion.
-So you can teach...
651
00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:24,662
It's a belief.
652
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:28,666
Teach your worldview in a different class,
but not in science class.
653
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:38,634
[Ham] You must admit,
these are quite exquisite exhibits, right?
654
00:44:39,177 --> 00:44:40,428
They're very troubling.
655
00:44:40,887 --> 00:44:43,097
[stammers] But they're beautifully done,
aren't they?
656
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,392
I guess.
657
00:44:57,987 --> 00:45:01,407
[Hams voice] And the Earth waswithout form and void,
658
00:45:01,490 --> 00:45:02,742
and darkness...
659
00:45:02,825 --> 00:45:03,910
[somber instrumental music playing]
660
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,878
[Nye on TV] My scientific colleaguesgo to places like Greenland,
661
00:45:13,961 --> 00:45:15,630
Arctic, Antarctica,
662
00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:18,174
and they drill into the ice.
663
00:45:18,257 --> 00:45:21,761
And we pull out long cylinders of ice.
664
00:45:21,844 --> 00:45:27,642
Certain of these cylindershave 680,000 layers of ice.
665
00:45:27,725 --> 00:45:31,562
The truth is that these layersin the ice are not annual layers.
666
00:45:31,646 --> 00:45:34,732
So Bill Nye and others have pushedthe idea of millions of years
667
00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:38,527
while talking about annual ringsin icicles are simply wrong.
668
00:45:43,616 --> 00:45:46,410
So this is the most troubling thing
you do, Mr. Ham.
669
00:45:46,494 --> 00:45:48,037
Trying to convince young people
670
00:45:48,788 --> 00:45:52,041
that climate change
is not real is very serious,
671
00:45:52,249 --> 00:45:53,876
because they're gonna have to grow up
and deal with it.
672
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,461
[Ham] Actually, climates change
all the time.
673
00:45:55,544 --> 00:45:57,004
Let me rephrase it for you.
674
00:45:57,296 --> 00:46:00,007
Human-caused climate change
is very serious.
675
00:46:00,299 --> 00:46:03,260
-Well, there's a lot of debate about it.
-This is the worst thing you--
676
00:46:03,344 --> 00:46:05,471
There's a lot of scientists
who would disagree with that.
677
00:46:05,554 --> 00:46:06,973
-In fact, we--
-Very, very few.
678
00:46:07,056 --> 00:46:08,891
We have PhD scientists on our staff
who would disagree with that.
679
00:46:08,975 --> 00:46:09,809
We have PhD scientists.
680
00:46:09,892 --> 00:46:14,897
Your scientists on your staff, as
respectful as I can be, are incompetent.
681
00:46:25,408 --> 00:46:28,619
[Ham's voice] ...contradicts the secularbelief of millions of years.
682
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:32,123
[girl] How did God create us?
683
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:35,793
[Ham] "How did God create us?"
The Bible says He spoke, and it happened,
684
00:46:35,876 --> 00:46:38,671
because He is all powerful,
because He is infinite creator God.
685
00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:42,800
So, young woman, I would say to you,
686
00:46:43,718 --> 00:46:45,720
that there's a process
687
00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:49,557
that humans have developed
over a millennia by which we know nature.
688
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,058
And we call that "science."
689
00:46:51,142 --> 00:46:53,602
The big thing in science
is questioning things.
690
00:46:53,686 --> 00:46:57,940
So, are you telling this little girl
that she is just an animal?
691
00:46:58,065 --> 00:47:00,276
The word "just" I disagree with.
692
00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:02,319
She's a wonderful, beautiful animal.
693
00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:04,655
I believe Mr. Ham.
694
00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:06,490
-Say that again?
-I believe Mr. Ham.
695
00:47:06,574 --> 00:47:08,993
Okay. So, as you get older,
just look at the world.
696
00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:11,162
I really encourage you to go to college.
697
00:47:49,617 --> 00:47:52,328
[Nye] Some of those kids,I don't think they were in fifth grade.
698
00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:55,706
You know,
when we did the Science Guy show,
699
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:58,667
we had very compelling
evidence that ten years old
700
00:47:59,335 --> 00:48:02,296
was the oldest you could be to get
the lifelong passion for science.
701
00:48:02,379 --> 00:48:06,008
We're gonna lose thousands
and thousands of kids from this area,
702
00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:10,429
who grew up with this weird,
untenable worldview.
703
00:48:10,638 --> 00:48:12,681
[people chanting]
...we don't want your Ark no more!
704
00:48:12,765 --> 00:48:16,227
One, two, three, four,
we don't want your Ark no more!
705
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:19,730
One, two, three, four,
we don't want your Ark no more!
706
00:48:19,814 --> 00:48:21,982
[people cheering]
707
00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:25,778
Today that grand opening of the Ark
Encounter kicked off about an hour ago.
708
00:48:25,861 --> 00:48:28,239
Across the street, we saw
a lot of people going in there.
709
00:48:28,322 --> 00:48:29,406
Hundreds of people.
710
00:48:29,615 --> 00:48:32,576
I want to go talk to Jim Helton, the
president of the Tri-State Freethinkers.
711
00:48:32,660 --> 00:48:33,786
Science is part of it,
712
00:48:33,869 --> 00:48:35,579
but you say there's more to it
than just that?
713
00:48:35,663 --> 00:48:38,040
Yes. We want to draw attention
to where your money is going to,
714
00:48:38,124 --> 00:48:39,458
and that your children
will be indoctrinated
715
00:48:39,542 --> 00:48:41,418
to say that evolution
and science aren't true.
716
00:48:41,502 --> 00:48:45,631
Here's what happened. They strategically
placed Bill Nye at the Creation Museum.
717
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:51,345
After that debate, they raised millions of
additional dollars for the Ark Encounter.
718
00:48:53,889 --> 00:48:55,558
Was Bill Nye responsible for some of that?
719
00:48:56,392 --> 00:48:58,144
Unfortunately, probably yes.
720
00:48:59,061 --> 00:49:03,065
[people chanting] One, two, three, four,
we don't want your Ark no more!
721
00:49:03,482 --> 00:49:06,152
[TV reporter] It's a theme parkof biblical proportion,
722
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,738
but until now, the money to make ithas not been flooding in.
723
00:49:09,822 --> 00:49:12,408
But $15 million in the last two weeks
724
00:49:12,491 --> 00:49:14,702
came from a rather ironic chain of events.
725
00:49:14,869 --> 00:49:16,328
...who don't understand natural law...
726
00:49:16,412 --> 00:49:19,165
[TV reporter] When thousands watchedscience advocate Bill Nye
727
00:49:19,248 --> 00:49:20,541
debate Ham online,
728
00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:22,334
believers pulled out their wallets.
729
00:49:36,682 --> 00:49:40,019
[Coyne] Nye's mistake was givingcredibility to Ken Ham
730
00:49:40,102 --> 00:49:42,438
by giving him a public platform.
731
00:49:43,689 --> 00:49:46,066
Everything I've seen about Nye is that
732
00:49:47,067 --> 00:49:49,236
he really misses being the Science Guy,
733
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,822
because he was much beloved
and very popular.
734
00:49:54,575 --> 00:49:56,243
It's hard to give up celebrity.
735
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:06,462
The starting position for me is,
"What is your goal?"
736
00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:11,050
My goal is helping the public understand
737
00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:14,553
why evolution is good science,
why climate change is good science,
738
00:50:14,929 --> 00:50:16,096
why they should be taught to kids.
739
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,933
I don't know what Bill's goals are.
740
00:50:29,068 --> 00:50:33,280
Bill has always wanted to be famous
from the get-go.
741
00:50:33,739 --> 00:50:36,033
He's actually said that to me,
"I wanted to be famous."
742
00:50:36,659 --> 00:50:38,244
He wanted to be a star.
743
00:50:38,327 --> 00:50:39,328
I see...
744
00:50:39,411 --> 00:50:40,579
You've seen the pictures
with the drone on the back.
745
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:43,624
[man] Okay, Bill. I'm rolling,
whenever you're comfortable.
746
00:50:46,377 --> 00:50:49,088
Okay. So everyone just give a big...
747
00:50:49,171 --> 00:50:51,966
[Jim McKenna]
The Science Guy is a character,
748
00:50:52,049 --> 00:50:56,095
but Bill is a human. He's not perfect.
749
00:50:57,012 --> 00:51:00,849
See, that's why airplanes take off
and land pointing into the wind.
750
00:51:02,393 --> 00:51:05,020
[McKenna] So we committedto a TV show with Bill,
751
00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:11,485
but suddenly Bill went to Portland,
and he did a pilot with our material.
752
00:51:12,653 --> 00:51:16,365
Our show, Bill Nye the Science Guy,
almost did not happen.
753
00:51:18,701 --> 00:51:20,244
[TV show theme song playing]
754
00:51:25,708 --> 00:51:27,501
Hey, Bill Nye the Science Guy here.
755
00:51:27,584 --> 00:51:30,671
What I've got is a set-upfor making hydrogen gas.
756
00:51:30,754 --> 00:51:32,214
I have a special chemical in here that...
757
00:51:32,298 --> 00:51:37,136
If you need any proof that there was more
than just Bill Nye behind the success
758
00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:40,472
of the Bill Nye the Science Guy show,
all you have to do is look at the version
759
00:51:40,556 --> 00:51:44,560
of the show that was produced down
in Portland, and it was ridiculous.
760
00:51:44,643 --> 00:51:49,857
It was like some form of crazy,
manic Captain Kangaroo.
761
00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:53,235
Bill really wasn't at his best,
it didn't make a lot of sense.
762
00:51:53,319 --> 00:51:55,612
It didn't get picked up. It kind of went nowhere.
763
00:51:57,448 --> 00:51:59,450
[loud explosion]
764
00:51:59,533 --> 00:52:01,118
Would you look at that?
765
00:52:01,201 --> 00:52:04,997
He's gonna blow up the whole neighborhoodif somebody doesn't do something.
766
00:52:05,456 --> 00:52:06,290
[glass breaking]
767
00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:07,541
Whoa! [laughs]
768
00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:10,294
[McKenna] We lost himfor a year, contractually.
769
00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:12,963
We were threatened with lawsuits
if we even talked to him,
770
00:52:13,047 --> 00:52:15,090
and I felt pretty raw from that.
771
00:52:15,174 --> 00:52:16,008
[TV static]
772
00:52:16,633 --> 00:52:19,887
So, overall, the page and a half
scene is all different locations,
773
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:22,139
but we'd like to cut up sentences.
774
00:52:22,222 --> 00:52:25,726
[laughing] Oh, yeah. Let's go shoot.
775
00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:27,853
We have to go shoot some stuff.
I forgot about that.
776
00:52:27,936 --> 00:52:30,189
-And go to the doctor.
-Yeah, go to the doctor.
777
00:52:30,272 --> 00:52:36,111
I think fame changed Bill, and I think
probably the biggest way is, um,
778
00:52:37,488 --> 00:52:40,240
his trust issues,
and I think also his vulnerability.
779
00:52:40,324 --> 00:52:41,992
He's very protective of it,
780
00:52:42,076 --> 00:52:44,161
and then now you're not seeing a Bill
781
00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:47,790
that we grew up with, you know,
20 years ago.
782
00:53:01,095 --> 00:53:04,264
[Heather Berlin] When you started gettingmore popular
783
00:53:04,348 --> 00:53:08,852
and your brand of science humor caught on,
and you started getting recognized,
784
00:53:09,478 --> 00:53:11,355
how did that make you feel?
I mean, were you, you know...
785
00:53:11,438 --> 00:53:13,565
[Nye] It makes you feel cool.
It makes you feel appreciated.
786
00:53:13,649 --> 00:53:17,111
Yeah. But now you have
millions and millions of people
787
00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:19,655
who know you or your persona.
788
00:53:19,738 --> 00:53:23,826
What does that do to your psyche and
what does it do to your brain, ultimately?
789
00:53:23,909 --> 00:53:29,206
I'm studying the effect of celebrity
and fame on the brain and the psyche,
790
00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:34,753
and Bill is a great test case,
where I can explore my thesis.
791
00:53:35,129 --> 00:53:38,715
I won't be surprised if your brain,
my brain, is meh from all this.
792
00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:40,551
[Berlin] Yeah. I mean,
and that's my theory,
793
00:53:40,634 --> 00:53:44,847
is that being in the limelight
for a given period of time
794
00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:48,058
can affect even the way
your brain is wired up.
795
00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:52,312
So, in terms of engaging with the public,
getting approached by people,
796
00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:56,692
is there this constant having to shield
yourself and close your real self off?
797
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:00,320
Well, I close off a lot.
I don't know if it's constant.
798
00:54:00,571 --> 00:54:02,948
Do you think that has affected you
in your personal life as well?
799
00:54:03,031 --> 00:54:04,908
Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Yes!
800
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,830
Do you think you've
sacrificed having a family...
801
00:54:09,913 --> 00:54:12,458
I think about that all the time.
And I just... I never did that.
802
00:54:12,541 --> 00:54:15,961
Do you think that you sacrificed
that to pursue this career?
803
00:54:16,044 --> 00:54:19,298
Well, how about this. I chose
to pursue this instead of doing that.
804
00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:22,134
I mean, there were opportunities...
805
00:54:22,551 --> 00:54:24,678
-Right.
-To get married and have babies, for sure.
806
00:54:24,761 --> 00:54:27,139
But I know people can do both.
807
00:54:27,222 --> 00:54:30,225
Well, this it. Dude! Dude. [laughs]
808
00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:36,023
I think women that I've known
are frustrated with me, because I don't...
809
00:54:38,192 --> 00:54:40,444
I won't commit-commit, because...
810
00:54:40,527 --> 00:54:43,530
[stammers] But I think that's not to do
with fame so much.
811
00:54:43,614 --> 00:54:48,869
My parents stopped getting along in a very
important time in my development.
812
00:54:48,952 --> 00:54:49,786
How old were you?
813
00:54:50,871 --> 00:54:52,915
I don't know. I was 12.
814
00:54:53,165 --> 00:54:56,210
-Hmm.
-My mom was very, very unhappy,
815
00:54:56,835 --> 00:55:00,672
and my father was extremely stubborn.
And he was...
816
00:55:02,925 --> 00:55:05,135
Bitterly sarcastic.
817
00:55:05,928 --> 00:55:07,930
And I think a lot of that
rubbed off on me,
818
00:55:08,013 --> 00:55:11,266
and that's not good all of the time.
I have angered some people.
819
00:55:12,059 --> 00:55:13,644
So you have a fear of intimacy,
820
00:55:13,727 --> 00:55:16,396
perhaps related to the fact
that your parents' relationship failed?
821
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,314
Yeah.
822
00:55:17,397 --> 00:55:20,192
So if you just keep a little bit of
distance, you're always safe.
823
00:55:21,193 --> 00:55:24,988
But at the same time, it never allows
you to have a real full...
824
00:55:41,213 --> 00:55:44,716
[McKenna] I think about this often. I had trust issues with Bill.
825
00:55:46,552 --> 00:55:48,011
But he's got this mission.
826
00:55:49,263 --> 00:55:52,266
I see Bill go on and do great things,
827
00:55:52,349 --> 00:55:55,978
and I am happy and proud
that he has done this.
828
00:55:57,646 --> 00:55:59,398
And I think it's brave.
829
00:56:23,338 --> 00:56:27,509
My dad's big thing was, "Every man's
responsible for his own actions,"
830
00:56:28,218 --> 00:56:30,429
and "Leave the world
better than you found it."
831
00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:36,351
These are Ned Nye's rules
of life right there. Guiding principles.
832
00:56:42,524 --> 00:56:44,901
My parents participated in this world war.
833
00:56:45,527 --> 00:56:47,070
They contributed to winning it.
834
00:56:56,663 --> 00:57:00,208
So, my parents made me who I am.
835
00:57:00,292 --> 00:57:01,877
I mean, for better or for worse.
836
00:57:03,045 --> 00:57:03,962
Uh...
837
00:57:05,297 --> 00:57:08,675
You feel great about it, but I also feel,
like, "Man, I could do more."
838
00:57:09,509 --> 00:57:11,178
Would they be proud of me,
839
00:57:11,261 --> 00:57:13,555
the mistakes I've made?
Would they go along with it?
840
00:57:17,059 --> 00:57:18,936
I try to be worthy of them.
841
00:57:19,353 --> 00:57:21,897
I try to leave a legacy.
842
00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:27,903
My drive to do all of thisis from my parents.
843
00:57:52,803 --> 00:57:55,055
[people chattering]
844
00:57:55,138 --> 00:57:56,348
[woman] I got it.
845
00:58:04,690 --> 00:58:08,485
The actual reason why I'm actually here
is going well.
846
00:58:10,696 --> 00:58:12,698
[cheering]
847
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,204
Hi, you guys!
848
00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:22,207
[all cheering]
849
00:58:22,833 --> 00:58:25,502
Don't you people have school to work on?
850
00:58:26,086 --> 00:58:27,629
[all laughing]
851
00:58:27,796 --> 00:58:29,339
Carry on, carry on!
852
00:58:29,423 --> 00:58:30,298
Oh, my God!
853
00:58:42,477 --> 00:58:46,356
There's the spacecraft over there,
and you say, "That's it?"
854
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,442
Yeah, that's it. It's that big.
855
00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:50,610
It's literally smaller
than a loaf of bread.
856
00:59:01,455 --> 00:59:03,623
It really is gorgeous. It's just gorgeous.
857
00:59:04,916 --> 00:59:07,878
When I was in class, 40 years ago,
858
00:59:08,170 --> 00:59:10,797
Carl Sagan talked about
a solar sail mission.
859
00:59:11,673 --> 00:59:12,841
But it never happened.
860
00:59:15,343 --> 00:59:18,221
So this is realizing a 40-year-old dream,
861
00:59:18,305 --> 00:59:21,266
building a spacecraft
that would fly in space,
862
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:23,060
propelled just by light.
863
00:59:23,727 --> 00:59:25,937
So, Professor Sagan, this one's for you.
864
00:59:29,441 --> 00:59:30,442
[indistinct chatter]
865
00:59:37,407 --> 00:59:41,995
[Nye] We're all very hopeful. This is animportant day in testing the spacecraft,
866
00:59:42,704 --> 00:59:45,707
to turn it on and see if it doeseverything it's supposed to do.
867
00:59:46,875 --> 00:59:48,919
The LightSail spacecraft
will go there in the middle.
868
00:59:51,421 --> 00:59:53,840
The antenna will spring out,
869
00:59:53,924 --> 00:59:57,052
and the sails will deploy,
870
00:59:57,135 --> 00:59:59,262
if nothing goes wrong.
871
01:00:08,021 --> 01:00:09,147
[indistinct conversation]
872
01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:19,699
-[man] All right. Are you ready?
-[man 2] Ready.
873
01:00:19,783 --> 01:00:21,034
Countdown.
874
01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:27,624
[all] Five, four, three, two, one, zero...
875
01:00:28,375 --> 01:00:30,085
[Nye] Oh, man. Right there.
876
01:00:31,878 --> 01:00:32,879
Hey, you guys.
877
01:00:34,422 --> 01:00:37,509
I'm really glad it works. Woo-hoo!
878
01:00:38,051 --> 01:00:40,637
Oh, that's great.
That's really great, you guys.
879
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,515
It's really nice. It's working perfectly.
880
01:01:05,287 --> 01:01:08,123
[people cheering]
881
01:01:14,671 --> 01:01:18,758
[Nye] So the reason we're doing thisis to advance space science.
882
01:01:20,302 --> 01:01:24,181
There's just a few missions that a solar sail is ideal for.
883
01:01:24,264 --> 01:01:28,351
You could monitor the Earth's climate,sort of, indefinitely,
884
01:01:28,727 --> 01:01:32,981
and that would be a worthyuse of these inexpensive,
885
01:01:33,064 --> 01:01:35,066
lightweight spacecraft.
886
01:01:42,949 --> 01:01:47,287
So, next year we're launchinga solar sail into space...
887
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,127
And I'm quite anxious about it.
888
01:01:54,836 --> 01:01:58,256
The Planetary Society launcheda solar sail in 2005,
889
01:01:58,340 --> 01:02:00,967
and the result was catastrophic.
890
01:02:05,263 --> 01:02:09,851
[Ann] After Carl's death, I wasthe program director of Cosmos I,
891
01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:16,524
which would be the very first attempt
to launch a solar sail into space.
892
01:02:19,611 --> 01:02:22,697
[Nye] We launched it ona Russian Cold War ballistic missile
893
01:02:22,989 --> 01:02:24,491
in the Arctic Ocean.
894
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:46,179
Everybody was, sort of, gathered aroundlistening for information, updates.
895
01:02:50,684 --> 01:02:53,770
"Well, we're waiting for a signal."No. There was no signal.
896
01:02:55,146 --> 01:03:00,360
[Ann] And word came that our trackingseemed to indicate that it was off-course.
897
01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:04,698
[Nye] And it crashed.
898
01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:06,491
[explosion]
899
01:03:06,574 --> 01:03:08,702
And it's in the bottom of the ocean.
900
01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:19,421
[Ann] And so our attempts to launchhumanity's first solar sail were thwarted.
901
01:03:25,135 --> 01:03:26,344
[Nye] While we're sitting here,
902
01:03:26,428 --> 01:03:29,514
the spacecraft is sittingon this laboratory bench,
903
01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:32,142
the antenna deployed.
904
01:03:32,225 --> 01:03:34,519
But then you've got...
There's nothing to do for 40 minutes.
905
01:03:34,602 --> 01:03:39,399
So, in this meantime, Joe Bastardi,
906
01:03:39,816 --> 01:03:42,360
the meteorologist-weightlifter,
907
01:03:42,986 --> 01:03:46,114
sent me a direct message on Twitter.
908
01:03:47,032 --> 01:03:49,534
"Hey, Bill. Sorry I blocked you last week.
909
01:03:49,617 --> 01:03:52,579
That really is not me,
as I am a libertarian."
910
01:03:52,871 --> 01:03:58,251
Please welcome, for meteorologists,
the chief forecaster for Accuweather,
911
01:03:58,418 --> 01:04:03,798
NABBA American Bodybuilding
Tall Class Champion, Joe Bastardi.
912
01:04:03,882 --> 01:04:05,467
Joe, thanks so much for coming on.
913
01:04:05,592 --> 01:04:06,801
[audience cheering]
914
01:04:07,427 --> 01:04:11,931
Do you believe that global warming
is man-made?
915
01:04:12,307 --> 01:04:14,225
Global warming is basically natural.
916
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:16,603
It's a fraud. I don't know if that's true,
and I don't care.
917
01:04:16,686 --> 01:04:18,313
What do you say about that, Brenda?
918
01:04:19,314 --> 01:04:21,900
Well, meteorologists are focusing
on the short-term,
919
01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,443
and climate scientists
look at the long-term.
920
01:04:23,526 --> 01:04:25,236
These are, like, natural cycles.
921
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,654
[Stephen Colbert] What's the long-term?
922
01:04:26,738 --> 01:04:30,158
It just seems so unlikely that
a guy with a degree in meteorology
923
01:04:30,241 --> 01:04:33,328
does not have a grasp
of the greenhouse effect.
924
01:04:33,536 --> 01:04:34,871
And it wouldn't matter,
925
01:04:35,622 --> 01:04:39,918
except the deniers have been so successful
in keeping the United States
926
01:04:40,001 --> 01:04:42,587
from becoming a world leader
in addressing climate change.
927
01:04:42,921 --> 01:04:45,465
I agree that there's climate change,
all right?
928
01:04:45,548 --> 01:04:47,217
Do humans have something to do with it?
929
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:49,552
They probably have something
to do with it. I don't know what.
930
01:04:49,636 --> 01:04:52,430
Is it worth crashing the American economy?
No. I don't believe that.
931
01:04:53,348 --> 01:04:57,060
[announcer] Please welcome Joe Bastardi!
932
01:04:57,143 --> 01:04:58,561
[audience cheering]
933
01:05:05,902 --> 01:05:09,531
[Joe Bastardi] I just think that C02is very, very small,
934
01:05:09,614 --> 01:05:11,699
relative to everything elsethat's going on.
935
01:05:19,499 --> 01:05:23,253
If the environment was a workout, to me,the sun would be squats.
936
01:05:29,759 --> 01:05:31,261
The oceans would be pull-ups.
937
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:42,105
Power cleans would be stochastic events,like volcanoes.
938
01:05:48,945 --> 01:05:51,614
All those things arethe climate control knobs.
939
01:05:51,698 --> 01:05:54,200
All right. So set it slow, set it fast.
940
01:05:54,576 --> 01:05:56,786
C02 would probably be, you know,
941
01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:59,706
band curls on a Thursday morning
circuit or something.
942
01:06:04,461 --> 01:06:07,505
Relative to those big-ticket exercises,
943
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:09,215
I don't think it's a control knob.
944
01:06:17,932 --> 01:06:20,602
When they argue the warmer
water that runs into
945
01:06:20,685 --> 01:06:23,688
the Arctic thingamajig that's cold,
946
01:06:23,771 --> 01:06:28,151
they say that that is all global warming,
947
01:06:28,234 --> 01:06:31,029
climate change, whatever.
So what is creating this phenomenon?
948
01:06:32,238 --> 01:06:34,115
Well, what's creating it is the natural,
949
01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:36,743
cyclical processes
that we've seen for years and years.
950
01:06:37,118 --> 01:06:40,246
In this particular year,
because of our forecast in WeatherBELL,
951
01:06:40,330 --> 01:06:42,290
we thought that it's going
to be an in-close year,
952
01:06:42,373 --> 01:06:44,375
high-impact year for the United States.
953
01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:45,710
[Michael Mann] Climate-change deniers
954
01:06:45,793 --> 01:06:48,671
have this huge megaphonethat has been provided to them
955
01:06:48,755 --> 01:06:52,342
by fossil fuel interests,
by conservative media outlets
956
01:06:52,425 --> 01:06:55,929
that are part of this larger
climate-change denial machine.
957
01:06:56,262 --> 01:06:58,431
And so what you've gotta be
concerned about...
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01:06:58,515 --> 01:07:02,185
[Mann] Much of the denialcomes from an ideological viewpoint.
959
01:07:02,268 --> 01:07:06,689
You know, regulating greenhouse gases mustbe bad because all regulation is bad.
960
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:09,025
Well, you do the math and add it up,
961
01:07:09,108 --> 01:07:11,903
and if you go back and look and study
what happened before,
962
01:07:11,986 --> 01:07:13,613
you come up with your answer.
963
01:07:13,696 --> 01:07:15,865
Well, I go to you for those answers
because you're that good.
964
01:07:15,949 --> 01:07:17,700
Thank you, Joe. I appreciate it.
965
01:07:17,784 --> 01:07:19,160
-Get home safe.
-I appreciate it.
966
01:07:19,244 --> 01:07:21,704
Joe Bastardi. All right.
In the meantime, what the frack?
967
01:07:21,788 --> 01:07:25,750
The White House today piling on more rules
when it comes to fracking on public lands.
968
01:07:25,833 --> 01:07:28,795
That's extracting oil and all that stuff
we need in this country.
969
01:07:28,878 --> 01:07:31,881
Critics say it's just gonna drive up
energy costs for all of it,
970
01:07:31,965 --> 01:07:33,258
Jay Lehr says, "Enough is enough."
971
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:39,264
Joe Bastardi has challenged me
972
01:07:40,848 --> 01:07:46,271
to "Some questions for Bill Nye, six years
after our O'Reilly Factor debate."
973
01:07:47,814 --> 01:07:52,443
They think climate deniers are doing us
a disservice these days, and Bastardi,
974
01:07:52,527 --> 01:07:55,196
at least currently, Joe Bastardi,
is a climate denier.
975
01:07:55,947 --> 01:07:57,699
Joe Bastardi, who is our go-to guy,
976
01:07:57,782 --> 01:08:00,326
he points to a lot of
interesting facts in history.
977
01:08:00,410 --> 01:08:03,830
You know, the Dust Bowl in Oklahoma,
the dinosaurs' extinction.
978
01:08:03,913 --> 01:08:07,792
I like bringing those things up so people
don't believe this is global warming.
979
01:08:07,875 --> 01:08:08,710
And the snow...
980
01:08:08,793 --> 01:08:12,755
[Nye] Joe Bastardi is the meteorologistof record for conservative media.
981
01:08:14,007 --> 01:08:15,967
Maybe I can nudge him.
982
01:08:16,843 --> 01:08:19,804
Show him the importance of carbon dioxide.
983
01:08:20,305 --> 01:08:21,347
We'll give it a run.
984
01:08:22,181 --> 01:08:23,308
Take you on, Joe.
985
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:29,564
[Garrett Bastardi] That's right here.
Right there. That looks like that.
986
01:08:29,647 --> 01:08:31,065
[Joe]
Yeah, it does, a little bit like it.
987
01:08:31,316 --> 01:08:33,985
What's going on is you're
cooling the Indian Ocean.
988
01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:35,903
That's what the implications are here.
989
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:39,866
Ever since I was a very young child,I was fascinated by the weather,
990
01:08:40,575 --> 01:08:43,578
and I see it in my son,who is very interested in the weather.
991
01:08:43,661 --> 01:08:47,040
You know, we've just been
in the warm cycle over the last, uh...
992
01:08:47,123 --> 01:08:49,083
-What, 30 years?
-[Joe] Thirty years. So...
993
01:08:49,167 --> 01:08:52,879
And the temperature has been
a little warmer the last 30 years.
994
01:08:53,004 --> 01:08:54,339
There seems to be a correlation there.
995
01:08:54,422 --> 01:08:55,923
Yeah. Well, I see the...
996
01:08:56,007 --> 01:08:59,719
When I found out my dad was gonna be
debating Bill Nye on The O'Reilly Factor
997
01:08:59,802 --> 01:09:04,682
on Fox News, I was in sixth or seventh
grade, and we had just finished watching,
998
01:09:04,766 --> 01:09:06,184
you know, for the past few years,
999
01:09:06,267 --> 01:09:08,770
watching Bill Nye the Science Guy,
those videos.
1000
01:09:09,145 --> 01:09:12,357
So he was a celebrity to me,and a lot of people my age were, like,
1001
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:13,441
"Please be nice to him."
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01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:16,319
Do you agree, Joe, that in 1750
1003
01:09:16,402 --> 01:09:20,323
the world's carbon dioxide
was about 280 parts per million?
1004
01:09:21,115 --> 01:09:21,949
Do you agree with that?
1005
01:09:22,033 --> 01:09:24,077
Bill, you don't want to go here.
You know why? Because I'm going...
1006
01:09:24,911 --> 01:09:27,997
[Garrett] And it got kind of testy,a little bit.
1007
01:09:28,081 --> 01:09:31,042
We were, like, "My dad's not listening
to anything we're saying,
1008
01:09:31,125 --> 01:09:32,418
and they're just kind of going at it."
1009
01:09:32,502 --> 01:09:35,213
So if you want to believe that,
you can go ahead and believe that.
1010
01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:37,131
-Let Bill reply. Go ahead, Bill.
-Seems kind of hard to.
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01:09:37,256 --> 01:09:40,885
[Joe] Before the O'Reilly debate,Garrett says to me, "Dad,
1012
01:09:41,552 --> 01:09:44,514
he's like the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus
rolled up into one.
1013
01:09:44,597 --> 01:09:46,265
You can't get mad at him."
1014
01:09:50,812 --> 01:09:54,107
In an unusual publication called
The Patriot Post,
1015
01:09:54,357 --> 01:09:58,152
a bodybuilder and meteorologist named
Joe Bastardi challenged me.
1016
01:09:58,236 --> 01:10:00,071
He challenged me to show a connection
1017
01:10:00,154 --> 01:10:02,782
between carbon dioxide
and the world's temperature.
1018
01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:08,955
I predict that 2016 will be among
the top ten hottest years ever recorded.
1019
01:10:09,455 --> 01:10:11,416
Mr. Bastardi, I cannot help but note
1020
01:10:11,499 --> 01:10:14,001
that you've spoken
at the Coal Training Conference,
1021
01:10:14,085 --> 01:10:16,170
Nebraska Propane and the Gas Forum.
1022
01:10:16,796 --> 01:10:19,215
Where you speak is your business,
1023
01:10:19,298 --> 01:10:21,426
but it also seems to be your business.
1024
01:10:22,051 --> 01:10:26,139
Have you ever seen a check arrive
from the Koch brothers out there?
1025
01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:27,056
[Garrett] No.
1026
01:10:27,140 --> 01:10:29,517
-No?
-I've never seen a Koch brothers check.
1027
01:10:30,059 --> 01:10:35,106
Have I made speeches directly
related to climate change? Yes.
1028
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:36,691
Have I been paid for them? Yes.
1029
01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:38,276
Will I do that again? Yes.
1030
01:10:38,735 --> 01:10:42,655
But the idea that the oil companies
are paying me,
1031
01:10:42,739 --> 01:10:45,700
and that's why I believe what I believe,
is total nonsense.
1032
01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:50,329
And if Bill's making money becausehe's talking about climate change, great.
1033
01:10:50,413 --> 01:10:51,497
More power to you.
1034
01:10:51,956 --> 01:10:52,790
He says it here.
1035
01:10:55,001 --> 01:10:57,003
"Bill Nye is wrong.
He's not a real scientist," right?
1036
01:10:57,086 --> 01:10:59,255
That's a big thing with Mr. Bastardi.
1037
01:10:59,756 --> 01:11:02,675
"Bill Nye's an actor." Wait, I'm both.
1038
01:11:02,759 --> 01:11:06,888
Or, at least I'm an engineer
who took a lot of physics. How about that?
1039
01:11:09,891 --> 01:11:12,393
[airplane whirring]
1040
01:11:31,621 --> 01:11:33,331
[Nye] I don't have a PhD.
1041
01:11:34,624 --> 01:11:37,335
So, I talk to the experts,
1042
01:11:37,418 --> 01:11:40,630
to people in the field who knowall about climate science.
1043
01:11:44,592 --> 01:11:49,555
And if I can,I really want to see the process,
1044
01:11:50,181 --> 01:11:52,600
and hold the evidence in my hands.
1045
01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:51,868
[wind whistling]
1046
01:13:16,934 --> 01:13:19,979
[James White] Wow.
This is where the magic happens.
1047
01:13:20,187 --> 01:13:21,772
This is where the ice core is drilled.
1048
01:13:39,749 --> 01:13:43,210
Ice cores are the best archiveof the past.
1049
01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:48,466
They tell us about
what happened on our planet
1050
01:13:48,549 --> 01:13:51,010
tens to hundreds
of thousands of years ago.
1051
01:13:54,639 --> 01:13:59,644
So we just go down at ten-foot chunks,
all the way through the bottom.
1052
01:13:59,727 --> 01:14:00,937
-Two miles?
-Yeah.
1053
01:14:06,525 --> 01:14:10,905
Once this becomes solid ice,
it's still 10% air.
1054
01:14:11,489 --> 01:14:13,658
So we can take that ice core
back to the lab,
1055
01:14:13,908 --> 01:14:16,911
shave it down in a controlled environment,
collect the air
1056
01:14:16,994 --> 01:14:18,704
and measure what was in the atmosphere
1057
01:14:18,788 --> 01:14:22,833
10,000 years ago, or 20,000,
or 100 or 200,000 years ago.
1058
01:14:22,917 --> 01:14:23,918
And you melt it too, right?
1059
01:14:26,921 --> 01:14:31,926
[White] In the 1960s, we discovered thathumans were indeed causing climate change.
1060
01:14:32,551 --> 01:14:33,803
That was a surprise,
1061
01:14:34,804 --> 01:14:39,266
and we didn't know that our climate systemwas capable of such an angry response.
1062
01:14:47,775 --> 01:14:50,403
Snow falls every year and you getlayers and layers of ice,
1063
01:14:50,486 --> 01:14:52,446
which are like pages in a book.
1064
01:14:54,448 --> 01:14:59,245
And as we read this book, we learn moreand more about the story of our planet.
1065
01:15:02,081 --> 01:15:06,711
One of the most important findingsthat ever came out of ice cores is that,
1066
01:15:06,794 --> 01:15:10,798
when it's warmer, C02 is higher.When it's colder, C02 is lower.
1067
01:15:12,383 --> 01:15:16,429
Our planet, over the last million years,
naturally varied between
1068
01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:20,307
really cold times, glacial periods,
and warm times.
1069
01:15:20,391 --> 01:15:24,895
And the difference was 100 parts
per million of C02 in the atmosphere.
1070
01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:34,321
But as we get closer to the surface,
1071
01:15:34,405 --> 01:15:37,199
we start to see traces of human activity.
1072
01:15:38,034 --> 01:15:42,788
Since the Industrial Revolution, we haveincreased C02 from 280 parts per million
1073
01:15:42,872 --> 01:15:47,793
to 400 parts per million, and the pace ofchange is going faster and faster.
1074
01:15:48,669 --> 01:15:51,630
With the amount of C02 in the atmospherewe have today,
1075
01:15:52,631 --> 01:15:54,800
the planet is gonna continue to warm.
1076
01:15:56,927 --> 01:16:01,057
An interesting question I get asked a lot
is, "Do you believe in climate change?"
1077
01:16:01,515 --> 01:16:04,435
And, um, the question
is interesting to me,
1078
01:16:04,518 --> 01:16:07,938
because the word "belief" implies that
there's some choice involved.
1079
01:16:08,022 --> 01:16:12,234
Whether I choose to believe in God or not,
belief in God is a choice.
1080
01:16:12,318 --> 01:16:17,323
I believe in God, um, but the...
Whether you believe in climate change,
1081
01:16:17,698 --> 01:16:18,783
it's physics.
1082
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,117
Um...
1083
01:16:20,451 --> 01:16:23,454
Greenhouse gases trap
the Earth's outgoing energy.
1084
01:16:23,537 --> 01:16:26,916
That's all they do. That's what they do.
They can't do anything else.
1085
01:16:29,043 --> 01:16:30,252
You can see in this one. See those--
1086
01:16:30,336 --> 01:16:31,545
-[Nye] Oh, man.
-[James] Those are all years.
1087
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,508
You can actually see here,
years where you had more snow,
1088
01:16:35,591 --> 01:16:36,801
-years where you had less snow.
-[Nye] Absolutely.
1089
01:16:42,973 --> 01:16:46,060
So look at this. There's a layer of,
what is that, a volcano? What is it?
1090
01:16:46,143 --> 01:16:48,646
[White] That's a volcano
about 27,000 years ago.
1091
01:16:49,522 --> 01:16:54,318
[Nye] God. See, it's 15, it might be
17 years of eruptions. Is that possible?
1092
01:16:54,401 --> 01:16:55,945
[White] It's very, very possible.
1093
01:16:56,237 --> 01:16:57,947
[saw whirring]
1094
01:17:14,755 --> 01:17:16,549
[Nye] This is where we seethe smoking gun
1095
01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:18,551
for human-caused climate change.
1096
01:17:19,635 --> 01:17:22,680
I just don't see how
anybody like Joe Bastardi
1097
01:17:23,764 --> 01:17:26,517
could come here, look at the way
1098
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,979
the ancient ice is extracted
from the Greenland ice sheet,
1099
01:17:31,897 --> 01:17:36,986
and not agree that humans have put enough
greenhouse gas in the atmosphere
1100
01:17:37,444 --> 01:17:39,113
to cause global climate change.
1101
01:18:05,014 --> 01:18:06,891
[White] This is raising sea level.
1102
01:18:07,808 --> 01:18:10,853
This is drowning Miami eventually.
1103
01:18:14,481 --> 01:18:16,692
This is 50,000-year-old water?
1104
01:18:16,775 --> 01:18:19,570
On average.
It's about probably 40, 50,000 years.
1105
01:18:46,180 --> 01:18:49,892
[White] I was here in 1989,
and it did not look like this.
1106
01:18:49,975 --> 01:18:51,018
[Nye] What did it look like?
1107
01:18:51,101 --> 01:18:53,479
[White] It was a much smaller
stream in 1989.
1108
01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:54,563
Oh, you mean the river. Was the--
1109
01:18:54,647 --> 01:18:57,107
The river. Yeah, no.
We would come and walk down here.
1110
01:18:57,191 --> 01:18:58,943
It was just water there, but it wasn't...
1111
01:18:59,026 --> 01:19:01,028
-It was a creek, rather than a river.
-Yeah.
1112
01:19:01,111 --> 01:19:02,071
Rather than a river.
1113
01:19:07,284 --> 01:19:11,497
So this is the Russell Glacier,
and it's melting like crazy.
1114
01:19:20,506 --> 01:19:24,927
The white ice reflects a lot of sunlight,
but as the ice goes away...
1115
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:25,844
[loud crash]
1116
01:19:27,137 --> 01:19:28,055
[sighs]
1117
01:19:31,684 --> 01:19:33,477
As the glacier does stuff like that,
1118
01:19:34,937 --> 01:19:39,441
uh, it's exposing bare rock
and is warming even faster.
1119
01:19:41,652 --> 01:19:46,115
It's very troubling.
It's, uh, heartbreaking.
1120
01:19:47,366 --> 01:19:49,785
Humankind has hardly done
anything about this,
1121
01:19:49,868 --> 01:19:52,913
and we've known
about the problem since the 1980s.
1122
01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:20,274
[Nye] Here comes the jet stream.
1123
01:20:20,357 --> 01:20:22,443
-[Michael] Yep, and they form--
-So where's the warming? Right here?
1124
01:20:22,526 --> 01:20:24,028
The warming is right there.
1125
01:20:24,361 --> 01:20:25,946
It's right there,
and it isn't just any old warming.
1126
01:20:26,030 --> 01:20:28,824
These are the warmest sea surface
temperatures we've ever measured there.
1127
01:20:28,907 --> 01:20:30,909
Three degrees Celsius.
We've never seen that before.
1128
01:20:30,993 --> 01:20:31,827
[Nye] That's huge!
1129
01:20:33,203 --> 01:20:35,080
[Mann] Bill is going to do this event
1130
01:20:35,164 --> 01:20:38,125
in my seminar series tomorrowwith Joe Bastardi.
1131
01:20:39,460 --> 01:20:43,922
Bill representing the scientific case
for human-caused climate change,
1132
01:20:44,131 --> 01:20:49,011
and Joe Bastardi, a climate-change
contrarian, against the science.
1133
01:20:49,094 --> 01:20:51,555
...where it normally isn't, because
you have the upwelling cold water...
1134
01:20:51,638 --> 01:20:52,639
[Nye] The ultimate thing
1135
01:20:52,723 --> 01:20:55,768
would be to get Joe Bastardi tochange his mind about climate change.
1136
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,107
If I'm on Fox News, they dismiss me. They don't listen to what I have to say.
1137
01:21:02,775 --> 01:21:06,528
But if Joe were on there,saying that he's changed his mind,
1138
01:21:06,987 --> 01:21:09,198
that could be very influential.
1139
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,076
And so it's worth a shot.
1140
01:21:22,628 --> 01:21:24,338
[Joe]
It's nice to have you over here.
1141
01:21:24,421 --> 01:21:26,256
-Nice seeing you.
-This looks fabulous.
1142
01:21:27,758 --> 01:21:32,221
Now... If you took all the carbon dioxide
out of the air today,
1143
01:21:32,304 --> 01:21:33,972
what would happen
to the Earth's temperature?
1144
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:35,682
It would get very cold.
1145
01:21:35,766 --> 01:21:37,142
No, it wouldn't get that cold at all.
1146
01:21:37,226 --> 01:21:39,812
Are you trying to tell me that 0.04%
of the atmosphere,
1147
01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:44,108
and that increase is only 0.01% since
you've been a kid, you think that's--
1148
01:21:44,191 --> 01:21:45,442
It's a 30% increase.
1149
01:21:45,526 --> 01:21:48,070
-A 30% increase against--
-In just three decades.
1150
01:21:48,195 --> 01:21:49,405
That's enormous.
1151
01:21:49,488 --> 01:21:52,991
Against the entire
ocean atmospheric system?
1152
01:21:53,075 --> 01:21:56,036
It's minuscule, Bill. It's minuscule.
1153
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,330
What if you're wrong? What about Garrett?
1154
01:21:59,331 --> 01:22:04,253
Garrett, do you get mad sometimes
when I actually concede that it's warmer?
1155
01:22:04,336 --> 01:22:07,965
Yeah. How are we measuring,
you know, accurately,
1156
01:22:08,048 --> 01:22:10,175
4,000 years ago or 6,000 years ago?
1157
01:22:10,259 --> 01:22:12,261
[Nye] Well, 4,000 years we can do
very accurately.
1158
01:22:12,511 --> 01:22:13,345
-[Joe] Okay.
-[Garrett] Okay, so--
1159
01:22:13,429 --> 01:22:15,889
[Joe] We can't do it the way
we're doing it today. Come on.
1160
01:22:16,014 --> 01:22:18,058
[Nye] So that's where we disagree,
you guys.
1161
01:22:18,142 --> 01:22:20,519
-[Joe] But you cannot use a tree ring--
-Dad, Dad...
1162
01:22:20,602 --> 01:22:23,105
I know I'm not in this debate.
I just wanted to say something real quick.
1163
01:22:23,188 --> 01:22:25,607
[Nye] No, you're not in the debate.
No. No, you're over there.
1164
01:22:25,691 --> 01:22:26,859
I know, I understand.
1165
01:22:26,942 --> 01:22:29,945
I'm arguing with my fifth-grade
childhood hero, so it's pretty cool.
1166
01:22:30,028 --> 01:22:34,032
The point is, 2016 is warm,
but 2017 is going to be cooler.
1167
01:22:34,116 --> 01:22:36,326
All right, now, if it's not cooler,
I'm obviously in trouble, right?
1168
01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:40,038
Yeah. Do you guys, do you understand
the significance of the ice?
1169
01:22:40,664 --> 01:22:43,792
There's nobody running around with
a hypodermic needle squirting bubbles
1170
01:22:43,876 --> 01:22:45,711
of atmosphere in 4,000-year-old ice.
1171
01:22:45,794 --> 01:22:49,298
I understand that.
I read everything you look at.
1172
01:22:49,381 --> 01:22:52,926
The fact of the matter is that being
on the other side of the issue
1173
01:22:53,552 --> 01:22:55,471
is probably hurting me economically.
1174
01:22:55,804 --> 01:22:58,098
Here's my claim though, Joe.
You're hurting everybody.
1175
01:22:58,182 --> 01:22:59,725
I want you to come around.
1176
01:22:59,808 --> 01:23:01,810
"Hurting"? Who am I hurting?
1177
01:23:01,894 --> 01:23:03,645
Garrett. The future.
1178
01:23:03,729 --> 01:23:04,897
I'm not hurting Garrett.
1179
01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,607
-That's my claim.
-You don't understand.
1180
01:23:06,690 --> 01:23:08,567
You don't fight. Have you ever wrestled?
1181
01:23:08,650 --> 01:23:12,821
You wrestle the match
when you're wrestling it.
1182
01:23:12,905 --> 01:23:15,991
You don't sit there and worry about
what the guy's doing in another bracket
1183
01:23:16,074 --> 01:23:19,077
that you might have to wrestle
down the road, and that's the problem.
1184
01:23:19,161 --> 01:23:22,247
The problem...
I'm not trying to save the world.
1185
01:23:22,539 --> 01:23:26,210
What you're saying is,
"Joe, you've gotta do what I say."
1186
01:23:26,293 --> 01:23:30,589
I say, "Bill, do whatever you want."
So what happens is, you get this control.
1187
01:23:39,223 --> 01:23:41,475
[Joe] Hey, where's the wine?
Do you want some more wine, Bill?
1188
01:23:41,558 --> 01:23:42,392
[Nye] I'm okay.
1189
01:23:43,644 --> 01:23:45,687
So are you gonna come
to Mike Mann's class tomorrow?
1190
01:23:45,771 --> 01:23:50,609
You know what? I don't know
that I should do that. If I do--
1191
01:23:50,692 --> 01:23:51,527
[Nye] Well, what's there to lose?
1192
01:23:53,445 --> 01:23:55,030
-What's there to lose?
-I don't know.
1193
01:24:02,788 --> 01:24:04,790
[indistinct chatter]
1194
01:24:09,419 --> 01:24:11,630
[Nye] These are first-year studentsat Penn State.
1195
01:24:12,297 --> 01:24:16,927
So I want to get them inspired
about the problem of climate change,
1196
01:24:17,010 --> 01:24:17,886
and the opportunities.
1197
01:24:20,806 --> 01:24:22,558
And Garrett showed up.
1198
01:24:25,060 --> 01:24:27,729
I think it just shows an open-mindedness.That's really good.
1199
01:24:28,647 --> 01:24:31,233
...NASA. The records of global temperature
1200
01:24:31,316 --> 01:24:35,487
based on averages of all the
thermometer information go back to...
1201
01:24:35,571 --> 01:24:38,782
[Nye] Joe Bastardi sent an emailthat said he would not come.
1202
01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:40,242
He's got a chip on his shoulder.
1203
01:24:40,409 --> 01:24:45,080
He wants to compete,
and here he would have been outgunned.
1204
01:24:49,793 --> 01:24:51,587
Do I look like someone that's afraid?
1205
01:24:52,296 --> 01:24:53,297
[scoffs]
1206
01:24:53,380 --> 01:24:57,426
The Cornell engineer is tougher
than the Penn State wrestler.
1207
01:24:57,509 --> 01:24:59,386
Whatever. Okay?
1208
01:24:59,469 --> 01:25:00,304
I mean, come on.
1209
01:25:01,305 --> 01:25:03,056
Does Bill understand that I work?
1210
01:25:03,140 --> 01:25:06,476
I have X amount of hours
to do X amount of things.
1211
01:25:07,561 --> 01:25:11,148
Obviously this is more important
to Bill Nye than it is to me.
1212
01:25:11,648 --> 01:25:16,111
If we just got to work, we could address
climate change [snaps fingers] like that.
1213
01:25:16,194 --> 01:25:18,030
I'm very hopeful about the future.
1214
01:25:18,363 --> 01:25:20,782
Technology has matured.
1215
01:25:20,866 --> 01:25:25,370
There is enough wind and solar that we
could run the US, we could run the world,
1216
01:25:25,454 --> 01:25:28,749
renewably, right now,
if we just decided to do it.
1217
01:25:31,752 --> 01:25:33,086
Maybe I'm wrong.
1218
01:25:33,295 --> 01:25:35,339
[laughs]
1219
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:40,844
What I've told Garrett is this.
1220
01:25:40,927 --> 01:25:43,347
I may have to see that my son
1221
01:25:43,847 --> 01:25:45,974
is writing things and researching things
1222
01:25:46,058 --> 01:25:48,268
that say,
"Dad, you're wrong about this, okay?"
1223
01:25:48,602 --> 01:25:52,648
"I want you to make sure that you know
everybody, all the facts,
1224
01:25:52,731 --> 01:25:56,652
then you can come to your own conclusion."
We've always taught that in our house.
1225
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,114
Boy, I'll tell you what,I think of that all the time.
1226
01:26:01,198 --> 01:26:02,991
What if I'm digging that kid a hole?
1227
01:26:04,326 --> 01:26:05,952
What if he has to pay
for the sins of his father,
1228
01:26:06,036 --> 01:26:08,497
whether his father
is right or wrong, or not?
1229
01:26:15,128 --> 01:26:16,171
[Nye] Do we have any questions?
1230
01:26:16,505 --> 01:26:17,798
Yeah. There was a question here earlier.
1231
01:26:18,465 --> 01:26:23,011
I was wondering if you could maybe comment
on constructive ways we as scientists
1232
01:26:23,095 --> 01:26:25,889
could reach out and try
and communicate with non-scientists,
1233
01:26:25,972 --> 01:26:30,477
because I feel like climate deniers have
been very good at capitalizing on, like,
1234
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,145
"It's only a theory,"
1235
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:35,357
or this idea that there's always gonna be
some margin of doubt.
1236
01:26:35,524 --> 01:26:37,442
So what I would say is,
just keep talking to people.
1237
01:26:38,026 --> 01:26:39,945
"Why do you believe that?
1238
01:26:40,028 --> 01:26:42,489
What makes you think
that climate change isn't happening?
1239
01:26:42,572 --> 01:26:45,575
What makes you disagree with
all the world's scientists? What is it?"
1240
01:26:49,454 --> 01:26:51,581
And so, uh...
1241
01:26:53,917 --> 01:26:56,461
But I strongly believe that,
1242
01:26:56,545 --> 01:26:59,339
with you all being
the future of the world,
1243
01:26:59,965 --> 01:27:03,677
you will be able to use science
and our process of science.
1244
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,221
And the arguments that we can make,
1245
01:27:06,304 --> 01:27:09,099
based on the facts
that we discover in nature,
1246
01:27:09,307 --> 01:27:11,601
and processes in nature...
1247
01:27:48,346 --> 01:27:52,142
Since I was a kid, I'd look up at the sky.
1248
01:27:52,768 --> 01:27:55,145
The stars are out there. This is our star.
1249
01:27:57,647 --> 01:28:00,776
And there's 200 billion stars
in our galaxy,
1250
01:28:00,859 --> 01:28:03,236
and then there are in turn
that many galaxies.
1251
01:28:03,695 --> 01:28:04,529
Galaxies!
1252
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,534
It just reminds me of the importance
of space exploration.
1253
01:28:09,618 --> 01:28:12,788
The reason we have these rockets
on the horizon
1254
01:28:12,871 --> 01:28:16,041
is to know our place in the cosmos.
1255
01:28:17,667 --> 01:28:19,586
It's just an extraordinary idea,and there might be a time
1256
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:21,797
when we start doinginterplanetary regattas.
1257
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,049
See, it's a whole new kind of idea.
1258
01:28:26,092 --> 01:28:30,430
[Nye] Thirty-nine years after Carl Saganshowed this thing on The Tonight Show,
1259
01:28:31,223 --> 01:28:35,310
we're gonna launch a solar sailas part of his legacy.
1260
01:28:38,563 --> 01:28:41,024
It gives me great pause.
It's quite a responsibility.
1261
01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:53,870
Even though we've been launching
for 50-plus years,
1262
01:28:53,954 --> 01:28:55,705
rockets are still a tricky thing.
1263
01:28:57,541 --> 01:28:59,167
Every time there's a rocket firing,
1264
01:28:59,251 --> 01:29:02,295
there could be a catastrophicexplosion right there on the pad.
1265
01:29:02,796 --> 01:29:04,464
[loud explosion]
1266
01:29:22,524 --> 01:29:24,526
It could start up on this journey,
1267
01:29:24,609 --> 01:29:27,654
and then some stage separationnot work correctly...
1268
01:29:31,658 --> 01:29:35,036
And that's actually what happened to uswhen we flew in 2005.
1269
01:29:38,248 --> 01:29:41,126
[indistinct announcement over PA]
1270
01:29:47,465 --> 01:29:50,343
[man over PA] Seventeen secondsand counting, guidance internal,
1271
01:29:50,427 --> 01:29:55,807
fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, twelve,eleven, ten, nine...
1272
01:29:57,809 --> 01:30:00,604
Three, two, one...
1273
01:30:00,729 --> 01:30:01,771
[loud roaring]
1274
01:30:01,980 --> 01:30:03,857
[crowd cheering]
1275
01:30:07,068 --> 01:30:09,362
Now I feel the rush!
1276
01:30:09,446 --> 01:30:10,739
-[crowd cheering]
-Wow!
1277
01:30:10,822 --> 01:30:12,324
-[man over PA] ...past the hour.
-Whoa!
1278
01:30:13,950 --> 01:30:17,162
[Nye] We're going to space. Go, I said!
1279
01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:22,709
There's chemical reactions
making water vapor. Yes!
1280
01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:48,360
[indistinct radio chatter]
1281
01:30:50,528 --> 01:30:52,614
[man] This is mission resistance report.
1282
01:30:53,156 --> 01:30:56,451
Indications are thata signal is being received.
1283
01:30:57,619 --> 01:31:00,747
That would indicate thatthe antenna deployed successfully.
1284
01:31:02,540 --> 01:31:03,750
So that's it. We're...
1285
01:31:03,833 --> 01:31:04,668
[indistinct]
1286
01:31:07,462 --> 01:31:10,215
Mission Control, it's Bill Nye in Florida.
1287
01:31:11,883 --> 01:31:12,717
Do you hear me?
1288
01:31:14,594 --> 01:31:16,763
[man] Go ahead, Bill Nye. We receive, five by five.
1289
01:31:16,846 --> 01:31:19,683
I would just like
to say the following thing.
1290
01:31:19,891 --> 01:31:21,309
Woo-hoo!
1291
01:31:30,276 --> 01:31:32,028
[Ann] Under Bill Nye's leadership,
1292
01:31:32,112 --> 01:31:37,617
the Planetary Society picked up this
great dream of solar sailing.
1293
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,329
I'm so proud of Bill.
1294
01:31:41,454 --> 01:31:42,747
[indistinct chatter]
1295
01:31:44,541 --> 01:31:48,670
[Tyson] Bill slowly but successfullytransitioned from Bill Nye the Science Guy
1296
01:31:48,753 --> 01:31:52,549
for kids, to the science statesman.
1297
01:31:54,718 --> 01:31:57,303
More power to him. The passing of a torch.
1298
01:31:57,637 --> 01:31:59,305
We are advancing space science
and exploration.
1299
01:31:59,389 --> 01:32:01,349
We are, dare I say it...
1300
01:32:01,433 --> 01:32:04,185
[all cheering]
1301
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:05,478
Changing the world!
1302
01:32:05,895 --> 01:32:07,939
[all cheering]
1303
01:32:11,025 --> 01:32:14,988
It does not always seem as if science
is in the room when it needs to be.
1304
01:32:15,655 --> 01:32:20,744
And so, gifted teachers of science,
with a lot of credibility,
1305
01:32:21,077 --> 01:32:24,748
a sense of humor
and ability to convey complex information,
1306
01:32:24,831 --> 01:32:26,332
are needed more than ever.
1307
01:32:26,916 --> 01:32:30,336
And so, Bill Nye, we need about
a thousand more of you.
1308
01:32:30,628 --> 01:32:35,425
Okay, pause. We have a ton of evidencethat Mars used to be covered in oceans.
1309
01:32:35,759 --> 01:32:39,179
So here today to talk to me about...
Wait, you're not in it yet.
1310
01:32:39,262 --> 01:32:40,388
-Oh.
-Okay.
1311
01:32:41,014 --> 01:32:43,308
I think a lot of people of my generation
1312
01:32:43,391 --> 01:32:46,811
attribute their interest
and love of science to Bill Nye.
1313
01:32:47,145 --> 01:32:49,731
What words of inspiration can you give...
1314
01:32:50,148 --> 01:32:52,776
Uh, science is the best ideahumans have ever had.
1315
01:32:53,485 --> 01:32:55,403
You and I drink freshwater.
1316
01:32:55,487 --> 01:32:58,281
There were people before him like
Carl Sagan, for example, but I don't think
1317
01:32:58,364 --> 01:33:00,784
our generation necessarily saw Cosmos,
1318
01:33:00,867 --> 01:33:02,368
because it was a little
before even our time.
1319
01:33:02,452 --> 01:33:07,207
So Bill Nye was, sort of, the headline
for science for kids,
1320
01:33:08,583 --> 01:33:11,836
and I think that definitely hasspawned this entire generation.
1321
01:33:12,545 --> 01:33:17,634
Although I've never had kids,
I am largely satisfied with my legacy.
1322
01:33:18,635 --> 01:33:20,553
Yeah, I've made some mistakes.
1323
01:33:22,806 --> 01:33:28,228
But if we have inspired millions of kids
to at least appreciate science,
1324
01:33:29,521 --> 01:33:31,856
then that's a heckof a thing to leave behind.
1325
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:36,152
So...
1326
01:33:37,946 --> 01:33:40,573
Playing the hand I was dealt, people.
Just trying to change the world here.
1327
01:34:12,438 --> 01:34:13,773
Greetings.
1328
01:34:16,401 --> 01:34:19,112
[man] His show and just allthe fooling around, it made me
1329
01:34:19,195 --> 01:34:24,742
really excited that, you know, to knowthat science is not just this very dull
1330
01:34:24,826 --> 01:34:26,369
profession or career,
1331
01:34:26,452 --> 01:34:29,122
that you learn something new,and that's exciting.
1332
01:34:29,205 --> 01:34:30,415
[Nye] I love you, man.
1333
01:34:30,498 --> 01:34:32,083
I'm also a mechanical engineer.
1334
01:34:32,166 --> 01:34:33,001
Oh, cool. Great.
1335
01:34:33,084 --> 01:34:34,419
I came here to see Bill Nye,
1336
01:34:34,502 --> 01:34:37,797
because he was my inspirationfor being a scientist.
1337
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,134
Bill Nye is the voice for scienceand technology,
1338
01:34:41,217 --> 01:34:43,386
and I think there's definitelya need for that.
1339
01:34:45,638 --> 01:34:48,057
Science is about dinosaur bones,
1340
01:34:48,141 --> 01:34:51,853
and it studies dinosaur bones,and I like dinosaur bones.
1341
01:34:53,438 --> 01:34:55,732
-[Nye] Oh, thank you.-Our class made it.
1342
01:34:56,274 --> 01:34:57,567
Oh, that's really nice.
1343
01:35:00,445 --> 01:35:01,821
Thank you, thank you.
1344
01:35:02,739 --> 01:35:05,617
My favorite about Bill Nye...When I watch him,
1345
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:07,911
he makes me sometimes learn.
1346
01:35:07,994 --> 01:35:11,039
Not many women are in the pathof the scientist,
1347
01:35:11,122 --> 01:35:15,126
and he always says that youshould change the world.
1348
01:35:15,501 --> 01:35:19,422
I'm hoping to change the worldby becoming a geneticist
1349
01:35:19,505 --> 01:35:24,260
and stopping all of theseterrible genetic diseases.
1350
01:35:24,344 --> 01:35:25,470
[indistinct conversation]
1351
01:35:26,054 --> 01:35:29,766
When I met him in person, I was, like,"I want to be Bill Nye when I grow up."
1352
01:35:29,933 --> 01:35:32,101
-[Nye] What a nice shirt, may I say.-Oh, thank you.
1353
01:35:32,185 --> 01:35:33,394
[Nye] Check it out.
1354
01:35:33,519 --> 01:35:34,354
Hi.
1355
01:35:35,229 --> 01:35:36,814
-Look at the lens over here. Look!-My bad.
1356
01:35:38,608 --> 01:35:39,943
Sweet.
1357
01:35:40,610 --> 01:35:41,527
That is awesome.
1358
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:46,783
[Joe] The total journey of Bill Nyeis a pretty remarkable thing,
1359
01:35:46,866 --> 01:35:49,243
because he's involved in something thatI'm fascinated with, too,
1360
01:35:49,327 --> 01:35:52,288
you know, this whole light sail project.And, uh... Who knows,
1361
01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:56,167
100 years from now he's the Thomas Edisonof our time, or something like that.
1362
01:35:59,253 --> 01:36:01,798
[crowd chanting]
Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill!
1363
01:36:01,881 --> 01:36:04,926
Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill!
1364
01:36:05,009 --> 01:36:07,679
Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill!
1365
01:36:08,304 --> 01:36:10,598
[Nye] We love that song! Yes!
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