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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,519 --> 00:00:06,260 Inside this envelope is a huge advantage at the next immunity challenge. 2 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:10,260 200. 200 to Danny. Fold for 200 to Danny. 3 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:13,340 Switch positions with any player. 4 00:00:13,620 --> 00:00:14,620 I'm going to switch with Steph. 5 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:16,460 Steph doesn't like it. 6 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:18,340 Steph is out. 7 00:00:18,860 --> 00:00:20,340 Danny wins immunity. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,578 Money well spent. 9 00:00:21,580 --> 00:00:25,860 Money well spent. Nothing more valuable than this right now. Oh, I love this 10 00:00:25,860 --> 00:00:26,860 thing. 11 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:42,270 Welcome to the Survivor Guatemala reunion. So we have all 18 of the folks 12 00:00:42,270 --> 00:00:44,430 Survivor Guatemala going to check in with everybody tonight. 13 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:49,130 Starting with you, Danny. We showed that clip of you buying the immunity 14 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:50,130 advantage. 15 00:00:50,850 --> 00:00:55,450 On day 31, you pay $200 for that. It saves you from getting voted out. Eight 16 00:00:55,450 --> 00:01:01,050 days later, it's a million dollars. With my math, that's a 500 ,000 % return on 17 00:01:01,050 --> 00:01:02,050 investment. 18 00:01:02,220 --> 00:01:06,260 But seriously, that was critical for you, right? You were gone that night. 19 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:09,320 No, that was definitely the best move for me in that game. 20 00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:12,460 Gosh, this is unbelievable. It's overwhelming. 21 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,460 That was money well spent, that's for sure. Because, you know, at this point 22 00:01:17,460 --> 00:01:18,560 the game, it was all puzzles. 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,020 And I'm terrible at puzzles. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,960 My family knows anything that's physical, I'm fine. 25 00:01:24,980 --> 00:01:28,460 So I knew I was going to need a clue. Aside from buying that, what was the 26 00:01:28,460 --> 00:01:32,380 move you made strategically in terms of who to vote out or who to keep in? 27 00:01:33,380 --> 00:01:37,360 Probably at the end with Rafe, strategically getting him out at the end 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,580 Rafe was very well liked. And that's something I still deal with today 29 00:01:42,580 --> 00:01:44,880 he's such an awesome guy, but we're here to win the game. 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,260 Rafe, you had... 31 00:01:48,940 --> 00:01:52,020 You made a deal. You were going to the final two. 32 00:01:52,260 --> 00:01:56,920 What was it that made you give it up? Was it really what you said about honor 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,920 were you influenced by Stephanie and her effort and crying and all that? 34 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:04,450 You know, I was definitely influenced by Steph and her effort, but I really 35 00:02:04,450 --> 00:02:08,630 wanted Dani to make a decision that she'd look back now, look back five 36 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:11,850 from now, and be proud of the decision she made. I thought it would be to take 37 00:02:11,850 --> 00:02:15,970 me to the final two, but, you know, it wasn't. And that's okay, because I 38 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:19,270 her to make what she'd be proud of. Well, Dani, I think you had mentioned to 39 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:23,490 at one point that the minute you realized this was going to be an 40 00:02:23,530 --> 00:02:27,870 once everybody made it to the sort of leaning position, you started panicking, 41 00:02:27,870 --> 00:02:29,850 thinking, what am I going to do? I can't take race. 42 00:02:30,110 --> 00:02:31,110 Yeah. 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,200 When I was up there in that final immunity challenge, I kept thinking 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,100 family. And I have a huge family. 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,920 And I just knew I could bless them so much, you know, if I won the million 46 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:44,980 dollars. And I started thinking about them because if I came back and I hadn't 47 00:02:44,980 --> 00:02:48,180 made that move, they would have killed me. I mean, they would have had my head 48 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:50,760 on a chopping block. And it's so funny. I kind of like to think of myself as 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,580 like a stealth bomber. Like in this game, I don't think anybody... 50 00:02:53,989 --> 00:02:57,010 I never flew under the radar. I think they just beat the radar. They didn't 51 00:02:57,010 --> 00:03:00,650 I was coming until after I dropped the bombs on them. Gary, that's a good point 52 00:03:00,650 --> 00:03:01,650 she makes. 53 00:03:01,850 --> 00:03:05,090 That's one of the questions I had. I never really saw Dani play in the game 54 00:03:05,090 --> 00:03:06,730 until late. Was she just underrated? 55 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:11,030 I don't think she was underrated at all. I just think she just had a smile on 56 00:03:11,030 --> 00:03:16,150 her face. She was honest. She worked hard, and it got her where she's at, and 57 00:03:16,150 --> 00:03:17,150 that's awesome. 58 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:18,430 Ray. 59 00:03:19,180 --> 00:03:22,960 Going back to giving up this immunity, because it seemed to me many times 60 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,220 throughout the game, you were morally conflicted. Should I? I could. I can't 61 00:03:28,220 --> 00:03:30,220 the chicken, which is a whole other topic. 62 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:35,840 And then you give back what might have been a million dollars. We'll never know 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,380 what happened because you didn't get a chance to go to Final Two and make your 64 00:03:39,380 --> 00:03:41,780 case. Could have been a million dollar give back. 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,480 Was that the hardest part of the game for you, the moral decisions? 66 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:48,480 Definitely. You know, I was looking at myself on day 38 as I watched Steph up 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,900 there and I watched Danny up there, and I was thinking, I truly am proud of 68 00:03:51,900 --> 00:03:55,460 every decision. I made some hard decisions to get people out, and, you 69 00:03:55,460 --> 00:03:58,920 was proud of it at the end, and I didn't want to on day 38. 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,880 throw that away just to try and win. I wanted to make a decision for that 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,880 council too that I was also proud of. Surprised a little at how well you did 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,480 physically. Four individual immunity wins. Pretty good. 73 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,480 You know, I don't think anyone here ever expected me to do well, and that's what 74 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,760 I went in, you know, I was like, I believe in myself, and I don't care what 75 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,180 everyone else thinks. I'm going to come out here, and every competition I go 76 00:04:20,180 --> 00:04:22,140 into, I'm going to give it my best. I'm going to try to win it. 77 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,980 I think people did underestimate me the whole game out here, and I used it to my 78 00:04:25,980 --> 00:04:29,360 advantage. Lydia, I'm going to ask you the question that I ask you, bless your 79 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,320 heart, at almost every tribal council. 80 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Sooner or later, I would say, Lydia, how are you still in this game? 81 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:41,540 Well, Jeff, you know, I came in this game with a different kind of strategy. 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,940 And first and foremost, you know, being a mom, you know, nurturing compassion, 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,260 you know, that plays a big key in everybody, you know, for me to show 84 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:56,690 You know, also, although I'm not real athletic, you know, I was here as a 85 00:04:56,690 --> 00:05:00,850 provider, and I think I did my job well, providing everybody food, my vote, 86 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:04,590 water, a clean camp, and a smile and motivation. 87 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:06,390 Well, and there's something to be said for that. 88 00:05:08,490 --> 00:05:15,290 Your attitude in what was the toughest season we've done, your attitude 89 00:05:15,290 --> 00:05:16,289 was remarkable. 90 00:05:16,290 --> 00:05:19,530 Day after day, Lydia would show up and have. 91 00:05:20,140 --> 00:05:24,100 She would have the smile on her face in light of everything else. Right, and I 92 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:28,620 just want to let everybody know a positive attitude and a good heart and a 93 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:31,240 kindred spirit, you know, will take you far. All right. 94 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:36,060 We're going to take a quick break. Up next, we're going to talk to Bobby John 95 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:41,220 and Stephanie, two people who returned to play a second time and in spite of 96 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:45,100 targets, played very well. Plus, we're going to hear from one survivor who was 97 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:47,820 never afraid to speak his mind. We are back. 98 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Back to the Survivor Guatemala Live at Union show. 99 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:39,780 One of the big twists of this season was inviting back Stephanie and Bobby John 100 00:06:39,780 --> 00:06:44,520 to play for a second time. And the appealing part of the dilemma was they 101 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,260 decide, those of you in the game, do we get rid of these two guys who've already 102 00:06:48,260 --> 00:06:50,460 played or do we keep them around for their knowledge? 103 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:54,620 Steph, so coming in, you know you're going to have a target on your back. 104 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,120 How did that impact how you played this game from day one? 105 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,720 Well. For me coming in, it was pretty difficult because I was like, well, I'm 106 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,200 probably not going to get past the first council, first of all. So I'm going to 107 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,900 have to obviously do everything I can to try to get sort of far. 108 00:07:10,420 --> 00:07:13,380 So the first thing on my mind is I'm going to have to take a leadership role. 109 00:07:13,380 --> 00:07:14,540 can't sit back. I'm definitely going. 110 00:07:14,980 --> 00:07:19,160 And make a good alliance. And I did. I made a major alliance with Ray and a few 111 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,860 other people, and it got me all the way to the end. 112 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,980 Were you worried? Because in Palau, the first time you played, you were sort of 113 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:26,879 the sweetheart. 114 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,200 And everybody loved Stephanie and how she played. Well, that's hard. That 115 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,480 expectation is hard to live up to a second time. 116 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:36,200 Did it go through your head, I might be risking the way people see me if I play 117 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,200 a tougher game? 118 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Absolutely. I mean, I guess I did come off as America's sweetheart, but also 119 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,060 coming into Guatemala, I wasn't playing for seventh place. 120 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:47,220 So I knew that I had to play hard. 121 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,400 And I'm the same person I was on Palau. I mean, you may have seen a different 122 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,540 side of me, but that's me. 123 00:07:53,060 --> 00:07:54,060 Take them both. 124 00:07:54,090 --> 00:07:58,010 mash them together, it comes and I'm there. I don't know what, but I am who I 125 00:07:58,010 --> 00:08:03,390 am. I'm a nice person, but I had to make some tough decisions, and I hurt a few 126 00:08:03,390 --> 00:08:06,210 people along the way, but it's Survivor, and if you want to get to the end, 127 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:08,570 you've got to play hard, and I did. I'm really proud of it. Did you think going 128 00:08:08,570 --> 00:08:12,970 to the end that you could win? Because as you said, as far as Judd, Jamie, and 129 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:15,970 Cindy are concerned, you're yesterday's news. 130 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:20,850 You cut their throats. That's three of the four votes Danny needs to win. 131 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:22,089 Yeah. 132 00:08:22,090 --> 00:08:25,170 I actually, I came into the game and I thought I had a great chance at winning. 133 00:08:25,290 --> 00:08:28,970 And then as I'm playing the game and kind of some of the reactions I got from 134 00:08:28,970 --> 00:08:31,250 few people, I was like, wait a minute, I got a second chance. 135 00:08:31,790 --> 00:08:33,570 If I get to the end, no one's going to vote for me. 136 00:08:33,890 --> 00:08:37,390 So I kind of thought maybe I definitely won't win the game. So their best 137 00:08:37,390 --> 00:08:40,090 strategy was probably to take me to the end because they're definitely going to 138 00:08:40,090 --> 00:08:43,110 win against me. But at the same time, Rafe and I played the same game. 139 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:46,210 The same game. I may have come off a little differently, but we played the 140 00:08:46,210 --> 00:08:50,230 game. And he may have won. I mean, you never know, but he may have won. That's 141 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:51,490 why Danny took me. It was a good move. 142 00:08:52,930 --> 00:08:57,870 Another element of having both Bobby, John, and Steph was there was a sense of 143 00:08:57,870 --> 00:09:03,030 starstruck, especially in the beginning. For some of you, not for everybody. 144 00:09:03,150 --> 00:09:04,470 Amy's shaking her head. Hell no. 145 00:09:05,530 --> 00:09:09,790 Thanks, Danny. Cindy, without question, you even said it. One of the challenges, 146 00:09:09,870 --> 00:09:11,890 you said part of the reason I'm on this show is Stephanie. 147 00:09:21,550 --> 00:09:24,170 that if she can do that, I can do it, and maybe better. 148 00:09:25,370 --> 00:09:26,370 Fair enough. 149 00:09:27,790 --> 00:09:33,910 Gary, I know from talking to you, you sense even more than just inspiration. 150 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:37,950 You sense a bit of, wow, that's Stephanie and Bobby John. 151 00:09:38,990 --> 00:09:42,330 And how did that impact the game from you as a new player playing? 152 00:09:43,150 --> 00:09:47,410 Well, I'm a big Survivor fan, and Stephanie was one of my favorites, and 153 00:09:47,410 --> 00:09:48,410 Bobby John and Plow. 154 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,220 And I think they used it to their advantage. And that's smart playing, so 155 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:54,179 got to give them credit. 156 00:09:54,180 --> 00:09:56,160 Okay, but I'm not going to let you off the hook. 157 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:03,340 I want to hear the truth, which is you've told me before that you think it 158 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:07,440 impact the game because for a while people were kind of like, it's just cool 159 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,480 be around these two people. 160 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:09,920 There's no doubt. 161 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,240 people were asking him question after question and you know and Stephanie was 162 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,280 just given answers and it was people were look after she was on TV for how 163 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,640 in the previous season and there's no doubt that There was some people that 164 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,700 really really glad she was there. Well, I have to say Steph in Two seasons you 165 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:35,520 definitely set a couple of records 46 challenges you took part in you won 10 166 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:42,420 lost 36 times on the flip side you survived enough to 167 00:10:42,420 --> 00:10:46,640 make it through 25 tribal councils. Now, you got voted out twice, but it really 168 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,340 does say a lot for how well you played this game, because it's tough to survive 169 00:10:50,340 --> 00:10:51,319 that many votes. 170 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,920 So, hats off to you for that. 171 00:10:56,660 --> 00:11:03,600 Now, you had a bond with Judd that seemed very tight, and when Judd was 172 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,980 voted out, it was a blindside, and it led to one of the best... 173 00:11:08,330 --> 00:11:10,930 exit lines I think we've ever had. Remember this? 174 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:14,250 Thirteenth person voted out of Survivor Guatemala. 175 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:16,910 Judd. Thanks, guys. 176 00:11:17,230 --> 00:11:19,510 Hope you guys all get bit by a freaking crocodile. 177 00:11:22,010 --> 00:11:23,010 Scumbags. 178 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:34,150 You say you're brutally honest. Brutally honest. 179 00:11:34,430 --> 00:11:36,950 Yeah, you were every single day brutally honest. 180 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:41,460 What is the relationship between you and Steph? Because that night, it was not 181 00:11:41,460 --> 00:11:43,420 good. Steph's awesome. 182 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:46,920 I mean, you know, nobody hates to lose. 183 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,780 There's nothing fun about losing, so I was pretty PO'd. 184 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,020 She's still a good girl. She played hard. 185 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:57,160 What's been the perception, because you're adornment. 186 00:11:57,730 --> 00:12:02,190 in a big city where you meet a lot of people every day, what's been the 187 00:12:02,190 --> 00:12:05,710 from people? Do they recognize you and what's their take on how you play? Yeah, 188 00:12:05,730 --> 00:12:08,590 no, they look at me and they say, holy cow, that's the big fat dude from 189 00:12:08,590 --> 00:12:10,990 Survivor. The big mouth. 190 00:12:11,470 --> 00:12:13,790 Oh, that's it, man. That's it, I'm telling you. 191 00:12:14,610 --> 00:12:18,590 So you're okay because a lot of people would say you were a villain this 192 00:12:19,010 --> 00:12:22,890 And you're okay with that. That's Judd. Yeah, like I said, brutally honest. 193 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:26,050 You know, I said it the way it was and I got no regrets whatsoever. 194 00:12:27,390 --> 00:12:28,390 Is it? 195 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:32,690 That's a good way to play this game, for sure. 196 00:12:33,390 --> 00:12:36,610 What's the status with Margaret? Because I got to say, I've been through a lot 197 00:12:36,610 --> 00:12:40,270 of tribal councils. I've never seen anybody stand up and do the speech you 198 00:12:40,270 --> 00:12:42,070 to Margaret about ADD and all that stuff. 199 00:12:43,330 --> 00:12:45,770 You know what? That was just part of my strategy. 200 00:12:48,830 --> 00:12:51,250 What can I tell you? No hard feelings, Margaret, whatsoever. 201 00:12:52,070 --> 00:12:55,590 Oh, nice. One thing I have to clear up, Judd. 202 00:12:55,950 --> 00:12:57,790 You did lie in this game. 203 00:13:01,310 --> 00:13:07,150 Because even after we outed you for lying about the idol, when you got voted 204 00:13:07,150 --> 00:13:09,830 in your confessional, you said, I don't know. I mean, I never lied. 205 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:12,410 I'm looking at the TV going, who is this guy? 206 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:19,050 Yeah, but, you know, the night before I lied, the night before I lied, I kind of 207 00:13:19,050 --> 00:13:23,210 had a big party. And, you know, it was still a little going into the next day. 208 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:27,180 This is what it's like at Tribal Council. 209 00:13:29,260 --> 00:13:31,720 So I felt like Santa Claus, and I said, it's on the ground. 210 00:13:32,140 --> 00:13:34,760 Bobby John said if I told him it was in a water, he would have jumped in the 211 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,760 water. 212 00:13:36,620 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaking of Bobby John, Bobby John, also, big target on your back. You come 213 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,280 this game as one of the toughest, one of the strongest guys, and on day one, 214 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,460 eyes rolling in the back of your head. 215 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:53,060 That trek obviously surprised you. Even you, a guy built for this game in a lot 216 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:57,060 of ways. No, it did. It beat me right down on my back. I mean, I felt 217 00:13:57,180 --> 00:13:58,180 embarrassed. 218 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,260 It pretty much humbled me in more ways than one, I think. Did you come in also 219 00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:06,340 with a different strategy? Because I know at the end of Palau, it seemed like 220 00:14:06,340 --> 00:14:10,500 you were starting to realize there's some strategy to how you play people in 221 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:14,280 game. Well, you've got to mash the gas in order for the car to go. And that's 222 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:19,440 the whole thing about this game. If you think you can just work and be nice and 223 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,100 be sweet and go through this game and not get voted out, that's not going to 224 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:25,580 happen. What was it you said just now? You have to what? 225 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:28,220 Something about mashing the gas in the car. 226 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,620 What's great about you, Bobby John, is... 227 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,120 Still, after how many people played this game, you have to be one of the most 228 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,000 authentic and endearing guys to ever be on here. 229 00:14:48,380 --> 00:14:54,420 And yet, sometimes that authenticity explodes to the guy next to you. 230 00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:59,860 Before we get to that, I have to say, watching you two guys from the South go 231 00:14:59,860 --> 00:15:03,100 it, I mean, sometimes it was heated, but it was always entertaining. 232 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,560 I just want to remind you kind of what it was like. Take a look at this. 233 00:15:12,490 --> 00:15:14,150 Alabama and Georgia kind of have rivals. 234 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:23,690 Just shut up, dude. I mean, God. 235 00:15:31,610 --> 00:15:38,210 So, Jamie, obviously the status of the friendship is fine at this point. 236 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:42,420 It's good to know there's still some good old country boys around. I love 237 00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:43,420 kid. 238 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,760 Love him. 239 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,260 Were you really losing your mind out there? 240 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,720 I heard there was a vote tonight. 241 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:51,940 I almost didn't come. 242 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:53,220 A little paranoid. 243 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,620 Promise you won't vote for me? 244 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,520 Don't keep lying to me, Ray. 245 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,800 Ray! 246 00:15:59,460 --> 00:16:00,700 Because, you know, that... 247 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:06,460 That seemed to be a real reason that people voted you out, as they thought, 248 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:09,000 Ray said, he won't quit asking me if I'm going to vote him out. I'm getting 249 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,020 tired of him. I'm going to vote him out. 250 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:15,000 Once you were voted out, did you have a period where you realized, I think I 251 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,740 was, seriously, kind of losing it out there? I was definitely losing a little 252 00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:19,740 bit out there. I admit that. 253 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,880 But I was also a competitor also, so it goes both ways. 254 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,560 I think I was just losing a little bit. 255 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,440 It happens. What happens? They played a game and they got me. 256 00:16:32,140 --> 00:16:38,680 All right. Well, up next, Gary said he never played in the NFL, but Danny knew 257 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,160 better. How did she know? 258 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,780 Plus, which survivor wishes she was still living in the jungles of 259 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,600 We'll get her story after this. 260 00:17:08,329 --> 00:17:09,309 Who do you think I want? 261 00:17:09,310 --> 00:17:11,089 Oh, I thought you played with him so much ago. 262 00:17:11,450 --> 00:17:14,670 I don't know. Maybe he just doesn't want anybody to know he was a former 263 00:17:14,670 --> 00:17:15,670 professional quarterback. 264 00:17:15,890 --> 00:17:19,250 I'll call the locals over there. Can you give me the lowdown on Mr. Gary 265 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:23,050 Hawkins, ex -professional football player? Ex -professional football? Yeah, 266 00:17:23,050 --> 00:17:26,869 wish. If you want, and I found it after, I ain't going to beat you down. 267 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,900 Welcome back to the Survivor Guatemala reunion show. Now, the whole need 268 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:47,160 for that lie actually started because Danny 269 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,200 recognizes you 10 minutes into the show. How did you know who Hogeman was? 270 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:57,940 Well, I work in sports radio back in Kansas City for Sports Radio 610, and 271 00:17:57,940 --> 00:18:01,340 huge sports fanatic, but I wouldn't have recognized him if I hadn't been for 272 00:18:01,340 --> 00:18:04,640 growing up with seven brothers and a dad who was a Cowboys fan, just seeing 273 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,170 pictures around him, because when we were at casting, for the show, I was 274 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:08,929 he looks familiar. 275 00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:10,430 First off, I thought he was like Brett Favre. 276 00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:14,430 And I went back, and I'm like, gosh, I recognize him. And then... 277 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,180 You went to Central Michigan State, and you go up there, and there's like a 278 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:22,880 shrine of Gary there at Central Michigan State. So it was kind of funny. It was 279 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,200 kind of ironic. And you ended up at Central Michigan State on a lark going 280 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:26,799 see a game. 281 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,820 Yeah, we just were up there. 282 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,440 So, Gary, you show up. This is your worst nightmare. 283 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,080 She spotted you three different times already. 284 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:37,140 Yeah, it really was. I didn't expect anybody to spot me just because of the 285 00:18:37,140 --> 00:18:40,440 differences and everything, but I figured I had to go in with a different 286 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,760 just to get as far as I could in the game, but it shocked me. 287 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,740 So you had the alter ego planned from day one anyway. 288 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:47,020 Yes, I did. 289 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,600 And did you hear from any of your NFL buddies? 290 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:53,080 You know, they just wanted to know what the heck I was doing on the show. 291 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,440 What are you doing, man? 292 00:18:55,820 --> 00:18:57,000 I love the show. 293 00:18:57,620 --> 00:19:01,180 Amy, so you're suspicious the whole time. 294 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,260 And then you finally find out what was the reaction. Did you call Gary? What 295 00:19:06,260 --> 00:19:10,900 happened? Oh, you have no idea. I wanted to beat him down, baby. 296 00:19:14,730 --> 00:19:15,730 Grand Haven. 297 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:18,330 Okay, 298 00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:22,190 you are a detective sergeant in the major crime unit. Reveal PD. 299 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:25,430 In major crime unit. What's up? Reveal PD. I got to say hello. 300 00:19:25,730 --> 00:19:28,390 So what's the reaction? Do people recognize you? 301 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:32,870 Yes. Every time I go to lock up a bad guy, they're like, hey, weren't you on 302 00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:34,970 Survivor? I'm like, listen, buddy, you're under arrest. 303 00:19:41,710 --> 00:19:45,110 For a second here, let's just acknowledge some real changes in 304 00:19:45,290 --> 00:19:47,050 starting with you, Amy. You look fantastic. 305 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:48,250 Thank you. 306 00:19:49,930 --> 00:19:54,550 And at the other end, Judd, how much did you lose? 307 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:56,770 45 pounds. 45 pounds. 308 00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:58,470 Well, 309 00:19:59,530 --> 00:20:05,670 for all of the pain and suffering of this show, Cindy, you enjoyed this so 310 00:20:06,170 --> 00:20:10,170 You still wish, is this true that you still wish you were living in the 311 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:11,170 of Guatemala? 312 00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:15,790 Yeah, I do wish. I mean, I go to sleep at night. I try to go to sleep at night, 313 00:20:15,810 --> 00:20:19,450 and I close my eyes, and I constantly imagine the sounds of the jungle and 314 00:20:19,450 --> 00:20:22,590 imagine what the ground felt like and the smell of the fire. 315 00:20:22,970 --> 00:20:26,470 You know people think you're slightly nuts for thinking that. I know they do, 316 00:20:26,650 --> 00:20:30,390 but anybody that knows me very well all knows that that is really Cindy. 317 00:20:30,910 --> 00:20:34,710 I felt like I left a part of who I am in the Guatemalan jungle, and when I left 318 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:38,210 for tribal council that night, I thought I might go home tonight, and I really 319 00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:41,190 felt like I was leaving home, and I was never going to get to come back. 320 00:20:41,710 --> 00:20:45,230 And you actually lost your job to be on this show when you went for your first 321 00:20:45,230 --> 00:20:49,230 meeting with us. I did lose my job, and that was my other home. The two things 322 00:20:49,230 --> 00:20:52,850 that people know about me within the first five minutes of meeting me was she 323 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:55,710 wants to be on Survivor, and she loved her job at the zoo. 324 00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:57,670 It's the two things everybody knew. 325 00:20:57,930 --> 00:21:02,370 So, I mean, I lost my job at the zoo to pursue the dream of Survivor, and then 326 00:21:02,370 --> 00:21:05,590 when I left that night thinking it might be my last night, I thought, okay, 327 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:06,630 well, this one's over, too. 328 00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:08,630 And I just feel like that those... 329 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:13,960 Part of me is gone, and I feel like I left home, and I was never going to come 330 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,180 back. Which begs the big question. You had a rare opportunity with this car 331 00:21:19,180 --> 00:21:20,179 curse. 332 00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:26,580 So everybody that has won that challenge in 11 seasons has never went on to win 333 00:21:26,580 --> 00:21:30,060 the game. We gave you a chance not only to, quote, unquote, get rid of the 334 00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:34,420 curse, whatever that is, but also to give four other people a car. 335 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,580 Rafe, do you think if she had made a different decision, Would it have kept 336 00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:40,580 in until the final four? 337 00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:44,340 You know, it's hard to say what you would have done at that time because 338 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:45,340 not in that situation. 339 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:49,360 I would have thought maybe it would have, but if we'd been there and we 340 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,560 her out, she would have lost everything. So, you know, she did get the car and 341 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,600 she has a Pontiac and she can drive to Guatemala. 342 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:06,550 Speaking of going back to Guatemala, Margaret, up in the top row, you had 343 00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:10,030 good experience and connected so much with Guatemala. I heard that you're 344 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:12,810 actually going back there to do some relief work. 345 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:15,090 Yes, I am. I'm very excited. 346 00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:20,370 Francis Ping Bolton, School of Nursing at Case Western, is teaming up with me, 347 00:22:20,490 --> 00:22:24,990 and I'm going back with Brian Corden, and we're leading a group of university 348 00:22:24,990 --> 00:22:27,450 students to help in the relief effort. 349 00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:33,100 After we left Guatemala, The mudslides devastated them and buried hundreds of 350 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,240 people alive. So we're excited about going back. 351 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:42,380 And also, to your credit, those first 352 00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:46,860 few days, we actually monitored a lot of what was going on out there through 353 00:22:46,860 --> 00:22:51,560 your interviews with the show because it was like triage for those first few 354 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,360 days. And you had Blake in your lap several times trying to keep him going. 355 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:04,900 Now, Blake, you had a couple of things going on out there. One, you were the 356 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:09,100 that was going to be the strong guy in all this, and that was changed right 357 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:13,820 away. But the part that I kind of remember and take the joy of is golden 358 00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:17,840 the term that everybody gave you. Amy, you want to feel this one? 359 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:19,500 I gave him this. Go ahead. 360 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:23,680 Well, because you said that we kind of covered that about that everything he 361 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,680 touches sort of. 362 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,820 Yeah. Question I have is this. 363 00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:33,200 When you described your girlfriend, for those people who saw that episode, you 364 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,760 went into great detail about your girlfriend. And I just wondered, what 365 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040 reaction when you're sitting at home watching that with her? 366 00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:40,860 You know, she laughed. 367 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:44,120 She knows me and loves me very much and knows how I feel about her. And 368 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,640 actually, the funnier part was when her father called me and said, I can't 369 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,289 believe my. 370 00:23:47,290 --> 00:23:49,230 My daughter's breath got you kicked off Survivor. 371 00:23:51,850 --> 00:23:55,910 All right, on that note, this was, without a doubt, the toughest season 372 00:23:55,910 --> 00:23:58,570 ever done, and we're going to hear a little more about that when we return, 373 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:03,570 updates from a few other people up here. But first, here's a clip that you 374 00:24:03,570 --> 00:24:08,750 didn't see on the show. This is the moment that helped keep Gary alive when 375 00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:10,490 found the hidden immunity idol. 376 00:24:13,670 --> 00:24:15,230 I've been looking in the seba tree. 377 00:24:16,110 --> 00:24:19,370 Well, lo and behold, I see the idol. 378 00:24:24,290 --> 00:24:25,570 This is highly secret. 379 00:24:27,570 --> 00:24:30,030 I'm going to keep it till I need it, which could be tonight. 380 00:24:36,150 --> 00:24:42,770 Your first challenge. It is a grueling 11 -mile race through the 381 00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:43,770 jungles of Guatemala. 382 00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:46,740 Judd, you okay back there? 383 00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:48,540 These big, strong guys. 384 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,900 Strong as losses, and they're all down. 385 00:24:51,140 --> 00:24:54,260 I have open, festering sores. 386 00:24:54,980 --> 00:24:55,980 And it sucks. 387 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,160 Welcome back to the Survival Guatemala reunion show. 388 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,900 Brandon, that was your shoulder. We were looking at that at the end. When you 389 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:12,900 see that... 390 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,640 What goes through your head when you try to describe what that 11 -mile trek 391 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,940 through a dense jungle was like? How do you do it? 392 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:28,460 I don't know. It's pretty indescribable. I mean, 11 miles through thick jungle, 393 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,160 carrying bags of corn, I mean, it explains itself. It is really, really 394 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,640 difficult. Ever done anything that compares to that? 395 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,640 I did a little hiking in Montana over the mountains and everything, but 396 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,920 like that. I mean, it was really tough. 397 00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:48,070 You seem also like Rafe a little bit that the tough part of this game for you 398 00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:52,030 was the moral compass. At a certain point, you decided there are certain 399 00:25:52,030 --> 00:25:54,070 I'm going to do and certain things I will not do. 400 00:25:54,950 --> 00:26:00,310 Would you play the game differently now that you see it is just a game, or was 401 00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:01,310 that your line? 402 00:26:01,330 --> 00:26:05,750 No, I think I'd play the game the same pretty much. I mean, that's how I went 403 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:09,790 into the game, wanted to play a really strong, clean game. But the game really 404 00:26:09,790 --> 00:26:11,510 brings out, I mean... 405 00:26:11,740 --> 00:26:18,320 A lot of ugliness. It's a really mean game, you know. And I tried to bring a 406 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,120 little bit of light and, you know, do good. 407 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,060 I think you did. I think your attitude did bring some light. 408 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:27,660 Jim. 409 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Jim, you come into this game with a lot of years of experience in different 410 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,980 areas, certainly in the fire department. 411 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:39,300 And then early on, you know, you have a freak accident. 412 00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:45,210 Can three days in still feel like the survivor experience? 413 00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:48,130 The arm's doing good, and I'm going to Disneyland. 414 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:59,190 Brian, on the other corner, when we met you about being on this show, you were, 415 00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:02,750 I'm the greatest student in the game, Jeff. There's no one that can outfox me. 416 00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:03,750 can do anything. Let me tell you that. 417 00:27:05,710 --> 00:27:07,430 As a student of the game. 418 00:27:07,810 --> 00:27:10,250 I can't even say it. I'll just wait. Go ahead. 419 00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:15,090 No, you were on the show because you were fantastic, and you did know the 420 00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:17,710 and you did seem to have a very good understanding of strategy. 421 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:19,790 What didn't you anticipate? 422 00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:25,190 you know, luck is a huge, huge part of the game. And when you're like, oh, 423 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:26,190 got the most tribe pride? 424 00:27:26,410 --> 00:27:29,450 And then, oh, Brian, okay, well, screw you, you're in the minority. 425 00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:32,010 You know, and I'm like, okay. 426 00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:36,170 So, you know, luck is just a huge part of the game, and you really need to go 427 00:27:36,170 --> 00:27:40,470 into this game wanting to win, playing hard, but being okay with the luck 428 00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:43,290 factor, you know. And, of course, I could have overcome it, I think, if I 429 00:27:43,290 --> 00:27:46,510 had stronger bonds with Gary and Amy. But, fact that matters, my game really 430 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:49,270 changed when I was swapped over, or when I stayed in your shop. 431 00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:54,140 You know, you have to be okay with luck playing a factor. And I give you a hard 432 00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:59,100 time, and I'm not picking on you. You really were delightful to have on the 433 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:05,060 because you're so well -spoken, and you are a good strategist. You maneuvered. 434 00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:08,000 You helped get Blake out of the game, no doubt about it. 435 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:09,660 Blake's not buying it. 436 00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:14,060 Danny wanted to deserve it, you know. Yeah. 437 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:15,940 On the other end, Brooke. 438 00:28:17,409 --> 00:28:21,570 You get right away. You're leading this tribe through the jungle you sort of got 439 00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:26,750 labeled it sounded like anyway as the smart Person is that something that can 440 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:29,710 hurt you in this game? Is that really why you were voted out is because people 441 00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:30,930 saw you early on as a threat? 442 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,260 I think in some ways, like, my first original team appreciated me because I 443 00:28:36,260 --> 00:28:39,520 smart, because I'd use the compass, things like that, you know. And it was 444 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,660 that, like, Brandon got labeled as the farm boy. 445 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,740 But here, I'd grown up on a farm my entire life. You know, law school was 446 00:28:45,740 --> 00:28:49,600 the last three years of my life, but no one ever called me a farm girl once. 447 00:28:49,940 --> 00:28:54,760 And then when I got on my new team, I think Jamie, Judd, and Stephanie just 448 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,800 said, oh, law school girl's got to go. She's not the athletic one, so we're 449 00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,800 going to get her out of here. 450 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Brianna. 451 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,899 All right. 452 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:06,240 A couple of yeahs. 453 00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:11,800 Simply, to me, watching this game seemed to overwhelm you. 454 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,940 That was my take. Am I wrong? 455 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,000 No, you're not wrong at all, actually. It was very overwhelming. It was 456 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,060 extremely, I mean, it was brutal. I'm not going to lie. And I still don't know 457 00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:24,380 what a pick is, and I don't really care. 458 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,360 But did you have fun? 459 00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:29,560 Did you have a good time? 460 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,460 I had a great time. I had a really awesome time. My friends at the Seattle 461 00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:36,420 Supersonics are definitely teaching me some things. 462 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,420 Morgan, same question. 463 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,600 It surprised me that you got voted off so early. 464 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,800 It surprised me, too. 465 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:51,260 And I still wonder, because some people are so competitive, that six days that 466 00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:54,220 you lasted would not be enough. You'd say, you know, I didn't even get my feet 467 00:29:54,220 --> 00:29:57,280 wet. You know, everything happens. Sure, it wasn't enough, but everything does 468 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,880 happen for a reason. And my experience getting voted off kind of made it all 469 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,579 worth it. 470 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:05,800 But I never expected myself to do as well physically. 471 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:12,380 And so I thought that I was doing so good in this game. And, you know, like 472 00:30:12,380 --> 00:30:14,600 said, you can't just be nice. 473 00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:16,570 and win this game. 474 00:30:16,810 --> 00:30:21,390 And yet all you can really be in this game is who you are ultimately. 475 00:30:22,090 --> 00:30:26,510 And that's why I have no regrets because I was true to myself and I really 476 00:30:26,510 --> 00:30:27,510 impressed myself. 477 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:30,090 So I just have to be proud of that. 478 00:30:30,330 --> 00:30:34,510 Well, you guys give us a great season in a very, very tough situation. 479 00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:41,910 Tomorrow morning on The Early Show here on CBS, Danny is going to get a check 480 00:30:41,910 --> 00:30:43,310 for a million dollars. 481 00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:48,110 And also as part of the prize for winning Survivor Guatemala, she wins the 482 00:30:48,110 --> 00:30:49,590 Pontiac Torrent. 483 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:51,510 Take a look at your ride. 484 00:30:54,910 --> 00:30:59,130 And as this season comes to a close, a new season is just around the corner. 485 00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:01,050 We'll tell you all about it when we come right back. 486 00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:26,740 with a couple of twists. We're going to catch the next group of Survivors by 487 00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:27,740 surprise. 488 00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:37,740 Next season, Survivor travels to a stunning location with an all -new 489 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,680 In the exotic waters of Panama sits a tiny island of exile that will play into 490 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,980 the game like never before. 491 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,780 Each week, at least one castaway will be banished to this desolate place, 492 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,940 separated from their tribe mates for days at a time in one of the most 493 00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:00,480 unforgiving environments yet. 494 00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:07,320 Strategy will be turned on its head, and survival will take on a whole new 495 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,320 meaning. 496 00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:11,860 And though this island will be a place to be feared, 497 00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:18,140 Something hidden within its rocky shores may be the key to $1 million and the 498 00:32:18,140 --> 00:32:19,880 title of soul, Survivor. 499 00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:26,520 The 16 new castaways will be divided into tribes in a way never before seen. 500 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,860 Who will outwit, outplay, and outlast all the others? 501 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,220 Join us as the adventure continues with Survivor Panama, Exile Island. 502 00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:52,730 You can do so immediately following the show. Go to survivor -auction .com at 503 00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:56,970 eBay. All kind of props up for bid. We've raised a million and a half 504 00:32:56,970 --> 00:32:59,810 for the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric AIDS Foundation. 505 00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:05,650 And we will see you soon for Survivor Panama Exile Island. Thank you, guys. 506 00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:06,709 Great season. 507 00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:07,710 Good night. 46322

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