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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,680 Um, one of the things that she still remembers very vividly 4 00:00:13,972 --> 00:00:17,517 is that she did not want to leave him at the cemetery. 5 00:00:17,518 --> 00:00:19,185 Like, she was freaking out 6 00:00:19,186 --> 00:00:21,522 that we were gonna put dirt on him 7 00:00:21,813 --> 00:00:23,232 and leave him in the ground. 8 00:00:23,524 --> 00:00:25,566 Like, she just couldn't handle that. 9 00:00:25,567 --> 00:00:27,194 She was so upset about it. 10 00:00:27,528 --> 00:00:30,029 I remember that we were watching a movie 11 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:33,241 in my grandma and grandpa's bed and he kept-- 12 00:00:33,242 --> 00:00:36,036 We kept on bonking heads together. 13 00:00:36,328 --> 00:00:38,497 - Did it hurt? - No. 14 00:00:39,164 --> 00:00:41,916 What do you miss most about your uncle Tyler? 15 00:00:41,917 --> 00:00:43,001 Um... 16 00:00:54,137 --> 00:00:56,472 The football world has been rocked this week 17 00:00:56,473 --> 00:00:58,517 by the sad death of a former star. 18 00:00:58,809 --> 00:01:00,768 The Super Bowl-winning safety, Dave Duerson, 19 00:01:00,769 --> 00:01:03,479 took his own life, convinced that the despair he faced 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,231 was caused in part by 21 00:01:05,232 --> 00:01:06,859 the damage he suffered on the football field. 22 00:01:07,693 --> 00:01:09,444 Junior Seau was found dead 23 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:12,321 in his Southern California home of an apparent suicide. 24 00:01:12,322 --> 00:01:14,448 A former San Diego Chargers linebacker 25 00:01:14,449 --> 00:01:16,451 was found dead of a gunshot wound this morning. 26 00:01:16,743 --> 00:01:18,619 Today, a team of doctors confirmed 27 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:21,455 that he suffered from degenerative brain disease, 28 00:01:21,456 --> 00:01:23,458 which could be linked to the years he spent 29 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:27,754 taking blows and giving them on the football field. 30 00:01:28,046 --> 00:01:30,424 We're looking at a dangerous full-contact sport 31 00:01:30,716 --> 00:01:32,759 where too many players play too long, 32 00:01:33,051 --> 00:01:35,554 and therefore suffer physical consequences, including, 33 00:01:35,846 --> 00:01:38,890 especially importantly, CTE. 34 00:01:38,891 --> 00:01:40,434 Where for you and I, 35 00:01:40,726 --> 00:01:42,561 long-term health's the most important thing. 36 00:01:42,853 --> 00:01:45,856 After that, the ability to play a pro career. 37 00:01:47,858 --> 00:01:51,111 And the lowest priority is to play that play. 38 00:01:52,029 --> 00:01:54,239 The athlete turns it on its head. 39 00:01:54,531 --> 00:01:56,617 It's that play. 40 00:01:57,618 --> 00:02:00,286 I unequivocally think there's a link between 41 00:02:00,287 --> 00:02:02,122 playing football and CTE. 42 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:06,502 I guess if my son was Tom Brady or, you know, 43 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:09,379 Brett Favre or some of those guys, 44 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:12,256 it might've made a bigger impact. 45 00:02:12,257 --> 00:02:13,967 And-- And, you know, I've thought about 46 00:02:14,259 --> 00:02:17,679 that before, or Peyton Manning. 47 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:22,767 I thought, "Lord, I don't want them to suffer this." 48 00:02:22,768 --> 00:02:24,228 But if one of them would have it, 49 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:27,563 it would get a lot more attention from the-- 50 00:02:27,564 --> 00:02:28,815 You know, from our country. 51 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:33,779 And this time, we give it to... 52 00:02:34,321 --> 00:02:35,447 Tyler Sash, 53 00:02:35,739 --> 00:02:37,282 juking tacklers off to the race. 54 00:02:37,574 --> 00:02:40,577 Nobody's gonna catch Sash. Touchdown in the end! 55 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:44,748 Money. That's the money shot right there. 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,001 Here he goes, Tyler Sash! Bye-bye! 57 00:02:49,336 --> 00:02:51,420 Tyler lands really-- Oh, nice ditch. 58 00:02:51,421 --> 00:02:52,923 Big running room here for Sash. 59 00:02:53,215 --> 00:02:55,425 Now, he cuts back! Oh, my goodness. 60 00:02:55,717 --> 00:02:58,554 Picked off by Tyler Sash! 61 00:02:58,846 --> 00:03:00,596 Garcia! 62 00:03:00,597 --> 00:03:02,641 Threw it up for grabs and Sash has another. 63 00:03:06,562 --> 00:03:08,188 And it was Sash who's been all over the place 64 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,231 tonight in their secondary. 65 00:03:10,232 --> 00:03:11,650 Oskaloosa's very own, Tyler Sash, 66 00:03:11,942 --> 00:03:13,443 is heading to the Super Bowl this Sunday. 67 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:24,162 So, it's Corona, so I-- I'll let you do it. 68 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:25,955 I even have some Clorox wipes 69 00:03:25,956 --> 00:03:27,249 - if you want me to-- - I've got some too. 70 00:03:27,499 --> 00:03:29,167 So, this clips on the back of my pants, right? 71 00:03:29,168 --> 00:03:30,919 Yeah, just in the back, yeah. 72 00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:33,589 On your, you know, where your-- your loop of your jean. 73 00:03:36,258 --> 00:03:38,885 Oskaloosa's a pretty nice small town in Iowa. 74 00:03:38,886 --> 00:03:41,304 It's not, you know, it's not real small, 75 00:03:41,305 --> 00:03:43,098 but it's, you know, it's big enough that it, uh, 76 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:45,016 you know, has a few things to offer, 77 00:03:45,017 --> 00:03:47,644 but I kind of like that, coming from New Jersey. 78 00:03:47,936 --> 00:03:49,688 I kind of like the quiet life, 79 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:52,231 and it's a-- it's a good life, and it's simple, 80 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:55,109 and you can really spend a lot of time 81 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:57,612 being the best parent that you can be 82 00:03:57,613 --> 00:03:58,989 and having your kids involved 83 00:03:59,281 --> 00:04:01,240 in lots of different activities at school. 84 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:04,577 So, Oskaloosa's, uh, been good to us, 85 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:07,580 and, uh, it's made a lot of developments 86 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:09,333 in the last few years. 87 00:04:29,061 --> 00:04:31,563 Tyler was just, he's just such a funny kid. 88 00:04:31,855 --> 00:04:33,398 You know, he'd come over and he's always, 89 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:36,527 you know, thought he was-- I don't know what he thought. 90 00:04:36,818 --> 00:04:38,737 Anyway, he'd come in and I'd see him, 91 00:04:39,029 --> 00:04:41,531 and he'd look at me real funny and I'm like, "No, Tyler." 92 00:04:41,532 --> 00:04:43,574 And he'd start running at me, 93 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:45,535 and he'd run and he'd tackle me 94 00:04:45,536 --> 00:04:46,912 just like I was a tackling dummy. 95 00:04:47,204 --> 00:04:48,580 And he'd pick me up and run with me. 96 00:04:48,872 --> 00:04:50,582 And I'm like, "Stop it! You gotta put me down." 97 00:04:50,874 --> 00:04:52,959 I mean, he-- he just did that all the time. 98 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,127 Just funny stuff like that. 99 00:04:54,419 --> 00:04:57,171 I have a picture of my father, 100 00:04:57,172 --> 00:04:59,590 and he looked a lot like my father. 101 00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:03,427 And, uh, I never really saw that so much until later. 102 00:05:03,428 --> 00:05:05,805 And all my sisters are like, and my mom thought 103 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:07,015 he looked just like my dad. 104 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:09,183 That's a picture of him and his brother. 105 00:05:09,184 --> 00:05:11,854 We had that made when he had, um, 106 00:05:12,437 --> 00:05:15,064 when my oldest son had his senior pictures done, 107 00:05:15,065 --> 00:05:17,776 we had that made because they were just really good buddies. 108 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:20,904 And he was a ball boy for his brother's high school team. 109 00:05:21,196 --> 00:05:23,073 Josh is our older brother. 110 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:25,117 I was the middle child, 111 00:05:25,409 --> 00:05:28,369 and then Tyler was the surprise. 112 00:05:28,370 --> 00:05:29,620 He wasn't planned. 113 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:31,498 So he, his joke would be, 114 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,334 well, he turned out to be an all right surprise. 115 00:05:35,043 --> 00:05:38,212 Tyler just had kind of this magnetic personality. 116 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:43,009 So, really for, for me, he-- I treated him as-- 117 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:44,886 as my younger brother. 118 00:05:44,887 --> 00:05:46,722 I kind of mothered him, I guess. 119 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:48,973 He had these huge blue eyes, 120 00:05:48,974 --> 00:05:51,350 always had this huge smile on his face, 121 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:53,978 and he was just the most precious thing. 122 00:05:53,979 --> 00:05:56,397 He was very, very cute little kid. 123 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:58,608 As a little kid, he had-- 124 00:05:58,609 --> 00:06:00,276 he couldn't just walk through here. 125 00:06:00,277 --> 00:06:02,361 He would come running up the stairs 126 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:03,947 from his bedroom, 127 00:06:04,239 --> 00:06:06,867 and he would jump and he would slap the-- the doorway. 128 00:06:07,159 --> 00:06:09,493 Like he-- he was trying to dunk a basketball or something. 129 00:06:09,494 --> 00:06:10,870 That was his thinking. 130 00:06:10,871 --> 00:06:12,706 The trim at that time was painted, 131 00:06:12,998 --> 00:06:15,416 and so it chipped everything off, and... 132 00:06:15,417 --> 00:06:18,544 And my mom would constantly, uh, tell him 133 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:20,004 that he wasn't supposed to do that. 134 00:06:20,005 --> 00:06:22,173 And so it got to the place where, you know, 135 00:06:22,174 --> 00:06:24,467 there was handprints all up all over the wall, and-- 136 00:06:24,468 --> 00:06:25,718 He didn't listen. 137 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:27,512 He was practicing his, you know, 138 00:06:27,513 --> 00:06:30,098 how he's going to slap the backboard or-- or do a dunk. 139 00:06:30,641 --> 00:06:34,143 After Tyler's brother graduated from high school, 140 00:06:34,144 --> 00:06:35,729 Tyler moved right into his bedroom. 141 00:06:36,021 --> 00:06:37,605 And that is in the basement, 142 00:06:37,606 --> 00:06:39,024 because it was the biggest room in the house. 143 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:40,734 So, we'll go down here. 144 00:06:48,283 --> 00:06:51,619 And this is the room that his-- his brother and him 145 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:55,456 both-- you know, had each when they were in high school. 146 00:06:55,457 --> 00:06:57,751 Wha--what posters were up when he was in here? 147 00:06:58,043 --> 00:06:59,461 Oh, Michael Jordan. 148 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:02,172 You know, the one with the basketball in his hands. 149 00:07:02,464 --> 00:07:04,799 Mostly they were basketball posters. 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,969 Here comes Sash. 151 00:07:08,637 --> 00:07:10,222 Good. And get the blocking foul. 152 00:07:22,901 --> 00:07:25,695 Uh, I don't know if you want my real opinion or not. 153 00:07:25,696 --> 00:07:27,030 I'm not-- not too happy. 154 00:07:27,322 --> 00:07:30,784 It's time to wake up, okay? You guys with me? 155 00:07:38,917 --> 00:07:40,335 Loose ten, hut! 156 00:07:46,091 --> 00:07:49,511 Kramer! Let's go. Right here, right here. 157 00:07:58,353 --> 00:07:59,938 Tyler Sash is kind of a-- 158 00:08:00,230 --> 00:08:02,482 he's kind of a local-- local hero, really. 159 00:08:02,774 --> 00:08:05,234 I mean, he's a guy that, he grew up here, 160 00:08:05,235 --> 00:08:07,904 and he was just an outstanding all-around athlete. 161 00:08:07,905 --> 00:08:09,531 He was a phenomenal basketball player. 162 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:10,782 He's a really good football player. 163 00:08:11,033 --> 00:08:12,075 Uh, he's really good at track. 164 00:08:12,367 --> 00:08:14,243 I remember him playing baseball. 165 00:08:14,244 --> 00:08:17,748 Basketball, of course, was a-- was a huge one for him. 166 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,335 And then, and then, football from third or fourth grade. 167 00:08:22,336 --> 00:08:24,004 This is actually the middle school right here. 168 00:08:24,296 --> 00:08:26,715 My husband taught there for 39 years. 169 00:08:27,007 --> 00:08:28,550 But he played his football games there? 170 00:08:28,842 --> 00:08:30,259 Yeah, he played all of his football games there. 171 00:08:30,260 --> 00:08:32,094 We lived on that street. 172 00:08:32,095 --> 00:08:33,888 So, we used to sit in that-- the deck of that last house. 173 00:08:33,889 --> 00:08:35,765 We used to sit up there and watch his football games. 174 00:08:35,766 --> 00:08:36,892 - Really? - Yeah. We never went 175 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:38,310 to go-- we never went in. 176 00:08:38,602 --> 00:08:39,645 We could have got in for free, 177 00:08:39,937 --> 00:08:41,396 because my husband coached here. 178 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:43,314 You know, he's one of those guys that you'd have to 179 00:08:43,315 --> 00:08:45,358 kick out of a gym, or kick out of a weight room 180 00:08:45,359 --> 00:08:48,070 or whatever it might be, because he wasn't-- 181 00:08:48,362 --> 00:08:51,532 He was going to put all the extra time and effort into it. 182 00:08:51,823 --> 00:08:55,034 I can remember against, uh, one of our arch rivals, Pella, 183 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:56,537 we threw a toss out to him, 184 00:08:56,828 --> 00:08:59,205 and I-- I swear, we didn't block hardly anybody. 185 00:08:59,206 --> 00:09:02,416 And there were, he ran, uh, 50 yards for a touchdown. 186 00:09:02,417 --> 00:09:04,753 There were seven Pella kids that were laying on the floor, 187 00:09:05,045 --> 00:09:08,715 on the ground, that had tried to tackle him, and nobody did. 188 00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:12,803 Look at that. Turnover by-- 189 00:09:13,095 --> 00:09:14,470 Well, that's good defense right there 190 00:09:14,471 --> 00:09:15,556 by Tyler Sash. 191 00:09:18,433 --> 00:09:21,812 Money. That's a money shot right there. 192 00:09:22,646 --> 00:09:24,022 Tyler Sash, 7 carries, 193 00:09:24,314 --> 00:09:26,524 114 yards and a touchdown. 194 00:09:26,525 --> 00:09:29,194 Average 16 yards a carry tonight for Sash. 195 00:09:29,486 --> 00:09:30,945 Hey, I tell you what, fellas, uh, 196 00:09:30,946 --> 00:09:32,573 the kid's got some talent, don't you think? 197 00:09:32,865 --> 00:09:36,243 He's one of those guys that would just take a contest over, 198 00:09:36,535 --> 00:09:38,036 whether it was basketball, whether it was football, 199 00:09:38,287 --> 00:09:41,539 whether it was track, he just took it to another level. 200 00:09:41,540 --> 00:09:43,708 What I really liked about Tyler 201 00:09:43,709 --> 00:09:45,001 was, he is so coachable for us. 202 00:09:45,002 --> 00:09:46,461 And he was always, 203 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:48,088 always wanting to learn more and more and more. 204 00:09:48,463 --> 00:09:49,798 He thought he was going to play college basketball 205 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,424 his whole life. 206 00:09:51,425 --> 00:09:53,593 Oskaloosa, they had, uh, this one kid 207 00:09:53,594 --> 00:09:56,638 that basically scored, uh, 36 of their 40 points. 208 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:59,557 I'll never forget coming back and telling our staff 209 00:09:59,558 --> 00:10:01,476 that Monday morning, I said, "You know, I think I saw 210 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:03,352 the next Steve Alford," 211 00:10:03,353 --> 00:10:05,062 because he was a legendary player in Indiana, 212 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:07,148 you know, growing up, so I figured 213 00:10:07,149 --> 00:10:08,859 he's going to be a Division One basketball player. 214 00:10:09,151 --> 00:10:10,401 Did he set any records? 215 00:10:10,402 --> 00:10:12,613 Oh yeah, he had-- I don't-- 216 00:10:12,905 --> 00:10:14,739 I couldn't even tell you, my husband could tell you. 217 00:10:14,740 --> 00:10:19,160 He-- Tyler held like 20 or 30 records. 218 00:10:19,161 --> 00:10:20,953 He holds our 100 meter dash record, 219 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:22,331 10.65 at the high school. 220 00:10:22,706 --> 00:10:24,373 You look at even just the basketball ones, 221 00:10:24,374 --> 00:10:26,250 he's known for football, 51 points in a game, 222 00:10:26,251 --> 00:10:27,586 12 threes in a game. 223 00:10:27,878 --> 00:10:29,545 That's-- that's never going to be touched. 224 00:10:29,546 --> 00:10:32,173 I mean, that-- those are things that people dream of. 225 00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:34,635 When did you decide football full time? 226 00:10:34,927 --> 00:10:36,595 How long ago, how many years ago was that? 227 00:10:36,887 --> 00:10:40,139 Um, well, my sophomore year, not a lot of people know this. 228 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:42,183 My sophomore year, um, I told my dad, 229 00:10:42,184 --> 00:10:43,477 "I'm not playing football this year." 230 00:10:43,769 --> 00:10:45,269 And he goes, "No, you're going to put--" 231 00:10:45,270 --> 00:10:46,939 He basically made me play one more year. 232 00:10:47,231 --> 00:10:49,190 And he's like, "You're going to play and see how you like it." 233 00:10:49,191 --> 00:10:50,943 And, um, Coach Schumacher at the time, 234 00:10:51,235 --> 00:10:55,906 moved me up to varsity and, um, I-- I don't like talking about 235 00:10:56,198 --> 00:10:57,491 being all state or all this, 236 00:10:57,783 --> 00:10:59,450 whatever, but I ended up making all state. 237 00:10:59,451 --> 00:11:00,743 And I was like, "All right, this isn't so bad." 238 00:11:00,744 --> 00:11:02,370 Moved into high school, 239 00:11:02,371 --> 00:11:04,205 he really became a-- a multi-sport athlete, 240 00:11:04,206 --> 00:11:06,041 and certainly got our attention. 241 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:08,793 Uh, as a football player, he's a guy that we really liked, 242 00:11:08,794 --> 00:11:10,420 and I remember distinctly, uh, talking to him 243 00:11:10,712 --> 00:11:12,672 and offering him a scholarship. 244 00:11:12,673 --> 00:11:15,299 I believe he was on his way home, uh, his junior year 245 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:17,719 from the state championship, the track-- track 246 00:11:18,011 --> 00:11:19,763 championship. So, he was driving home from Des Moines, 247 00:11:20,055 --> 00:11:21,473 and I had him on the phone. 248 00:11:21,765 --> 00:11:23,308 That's when we offered him the scholarship. 249 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,309 And, uh, fortunately for us, 250 00:11:25,310 --> 00:11:26,645 he decided to come to the University of Iowa. 251 00:11:26,937 --> 00:11:28,689 Throws right to the Hawkeye. 252 00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,900 Tyler Sash lateralled the ball off. 253 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:35,487 Inside the five, lunging, touchdown! 254 00:11:38,323 --> 00:11:42,661 It's all made possible by Tyler Sash. 255 00:11:44,496 --> 00:11:46,372 He was at the University of Iowa, 256 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:49,333 and, um, he went down to the cheerleaders one night, 257 00:11:49,334 --> 00:11:50,586 and he asked 'em what they did with 258 00:11:50,878 --> 00:11:52,295 all those shirts over there. 259 00:11:52,296 --> 00:11:53,755 And they said, well, they, you know, 260 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:55,715 they, um, would shoot them up into the crowd and stuff. 261 00:11:55,716 --> 00:11:57,049 And he said, "Could I have some--" 262 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:58,760 Here's the new football stadium. 263 00:12:00,470 --> 00:12:01,930 He said, "Could I have some of those?" 264 00:12:02,222 --> 00:12:03,848 And they said, "Sure." So, what'd he do? 265 00:12:03,849 --> 00:12:05,516 He took a bunch of them, and he went over 266 00:12:05,517 --> 00:12:06,852 to the handicapped section, 267 00:12:07,144 --> 00:12:08,478 and gave them to all the handicapped kids 268 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:10,397 sitting in the front row, in their wheelchairs. 269 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:12,566 Look at this motion right here. 270 00:12:12,858 --> 00:12:14,108 Willis is, uh, throwing back. 271 00:12:14,109 --> 00:12:15,569 Play fake. 272 00:12:15,861 --> 00:12:17,653 And batted down from behind, it's loose! 273 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:20,365 Iowa on the move! Tyler Sash! 274 00:12:22,201 --> 00:12:23,702 Gonna take it back! 275 00:12:23,994 --> 00:12:27,331 Trick-or-treat, Iowa city! 276 00:12:31,877 --> 00:12:33,712 Well, you know, the most famous play certainly is the, 277 00:12:34,004 --> 00:12:37,089 uh, you know, the, uh, ricochet play against Indiana. 278 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:39,467 And-- and, uh, that was a game where we were, 279 00:12:39,468 --> 00:12:41,219 you know, we were going down. Uh... 280 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:43,013 They came in here and got off to a real fast start, 281 00:12:43,305 --> 00:12:44,972 and-- and we never got our hands up. 282 00:12:44,973 --> 00:12:47,016 I mean, we never put up a fight at all. 283 00:12:47,017 --> 00:12:49,894 So, had they, Indiana scored at that point, 284 00:12:49,895 --> 00:12:51,562 I think that game's over and, you know, 285 00:12:51,563 --> 00:12:53,189 it was just one of those things where, you know, 286 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:54,441 he comes out and makes a huge play, 287 00:12:54,733 --> 00:12:56,526 but, uh, he made a lot of those. 288 00:12:56,527 --> 00:12:58,194 That was kind of typical of his career. 289 00:12:58,195 --> 00:12:59,154 A lot of people say, 290 00:12:59,446 --> 00:13:01,072 even a lot of the analysts, 291 00:13:01,073 --> 00:13:02,365 say you just have a nose for the ball. 292 00:13:02,366 --> 00:13:04,283 Where does that come from? 293 00:13:04,284 --> 00:13:05,993 Oh, you know, I don't know if it's from playing basketball, 294 00:13:05,994 --> 00:13:07,620 playing point guard, because I always had the ball 295 00:13:07,621 --> 00:13:08,746 in my hand, so maybe I'm attracted to the ball. 296 00:13:08,747 --> 00:13:09,665 I don't know. I just-- 297 00:13:09,957 --> 00:13:11,791 I just work hard and practice, 298 00:13:11,792 --> 00:13:13,168 try to put myself in those situations, 299 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,461 and it translates-- translates to the game. 300 00:13:15,462 --> 00:13:17,297 He was picked in the sixth round 301 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:19,633 with the New York Giants. 302 00:13:20,634 --> 00:13:23,554 And, uh, it was kind of a really stressful day. 303 00:13:23,846 --> 00:13:25,305 Me and him actually were roommates 304 00:13:25,556 --> 00:13:27,390 for our first two years, uh, with the New York Giants. 305 00:13:27,391 --> 00:13:31,186 Um, we, we did everything together. I lived with Tyler. 306 00:13:31,478 --> 00:13:34,522 So, you know, he's playing his music all day, every day. 307 00:13:34,523 --> 00:13:36,566 We went to the mall together. We were going out together, 308 00:13:36,567 --> 00:13:38,902 every-- I mean, for all intents and purposes, I mean, 309 00:13:39,194 --> 00:13:42,363 he was probably my best friend in my times with the Giants. 310 00:13:42,364 --> 00:13:44,574 And Spencer Paysinger comes away 311 00:13:44,575 --> 00:13:45,659 with the football. 312 00:13:47,744 --> 00:13:49,245 The biggest concussion 313 00:13:49,246 --> 00:13:51,330 that I was around for, 314 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:53,876 it was the NFC championship game against the 49ers. 315 00:13:54,168 --> 00:13:55,960 And it's-- it was just a physical game. 316 00:13:55,961 --> 00:13:57,880 Like if anybody asks, it's-- 317 00:13:58,338 --> 00:14:00,882 that game was the hardest game I've ever played. 318 00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:04,969 One of the 49ers defensive ends, peels back. 319 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:06,345 Tyler doesn't see him. 320 00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:09,098 He sees Tyler and hit him so hard, 321 00:14:09,099 --> 00:14:12,727 he actually flipped and slammed him to the ground. 322 00:14:12,728 --> 00:14:14,938 A player down for the Giants. 323 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:16,732 That's Sash. 324 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:23,030 He spun around like a rag doll, and our TV went off. 325 00:14:24,573 --> 00:14:25,908 Perfect timing. 326 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,202 I'm looking around like, "Oh, where did Tyler go?" 327 00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:30,786 So, I called my older son. 328 00:14:30,787 --> 00:14:32,371 He said that they were tweeting out 329 00:14:32,372 --> 00:14:34,708 that my son was-- was unconscious. 330 00:14:41,256 --> 00:14:43,091 Oskaloosa's very own Tyler Sash 331 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:45,426 is heading to the Super Bowl this Sunday. 332 00:14:45,427 --> 00:14:48,096 The Giants rookie suffered a concussion two weeks ago 333 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:51,350 in the NFC championship game against the 49ers. 334 00:14:51,642 --> 00:14:53,435 The 23-year old has been examined 335 00:14:53,727 --> 00:14:55,562 and cleared by team officials to suit up 336 00:14:55,854 --> 00:14:57,439 for the big game this weekend. 337 00:14:57,731 --> 00:14:59,233 I mean, I've watched every Super Bowl since I can remember 338 00:14:59,483 --> 00:15:02,318 and for some people, this is a once-in-a-lifetime thing. 339 00:15:02,319 --> 00:15:04,028 And being a rookie, I-- I'm blessed. 340 00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:06,323 Uh, first year in, I'm-- I'm in the Super-- 341 00:15:12,496 --> 00:15:16,457 The game ends here! To the end zone. 342 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,627 Hernandez is there, tipped and batted. 343 00:15:18,919 --> 00:15:21,295 Gronkowski can't get it. Incomplete. 344 00:15:21,296 --> 00:15:25,425 And the New York Giants are the Super Bowl champs. 345 00:15:25,717 --> 00:15:28,594 More nervous than I-- right now than I am for the Super Bowl, 346 00:15:28,595 --> 00:15:30,221 or than I was for the Super Bowl. 347 00:15:30,222 --> 00:15:31,682 Tyler Sash. 348 00:15:35,936 --> 00:15:37,854 "Can I have your autograph, Tyler?" 349 00:15:37,855 --> 00:15:39,605 And then on the other side, it said, 350 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:42,442 "Can you get Tom Brady's autograph for me? You're lame." 351 00:15:45,737 --> 00:15:47,488 I don't know-- I don't know what I'm doing, 352 00:15:47,489 --> 00:15:48,699 so you gotta tell me. 353 00:15:48,991 --> 00:15:50,658 Just watch! 354 00:15:50,659 --> 00:15:52,452 You know what I mean, how does it feel 355 00:15:52,744 --> 00:15:54,662 to be a Super Bowl champ? I know you've heard it all week. 356 00:15:54,663 --> 00:15:56,582 You know, it-- it's crazy just to think about 357 00:15:56,874 --> 00:16:01,170 um, being on a team that is the best team in the world, 358 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:02,671 you know, at-- at whatever. 359 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,217 We met back in second grade. 360 00:16:08,218 --> 00:16:10,094 He was homeschooled, 361 00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:13,055 and he came to Whittier Elementary for that year. 362 00:16:13,056 --> 00:16:15,851 And then, um, he came back in seventh grade. 363 00:16:16,143 --> 00:16:19,228 So, we graduated together, known him ever since then. 364 00:16:19,229 --> 00:16:21,272 I think we are just a lot alike. 365 00:16:21,273 --> 00:16:23,983 I always say he's like the male version of me. 366 00:16:23,984 --> 00:16:25,819 We'd finish each other's sentences. 367 00:16:26,111 --> 00:16:28,154 Um, we had the same ideas. 368 00:16:28,155 --> 00:16:30,240 We were just two of a kind. 369 00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:32,701 Are we ready? Is it shooting? 370 00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:34,744 I'm wearing an Iowa shirt tomorrow, 371 00:16:34,745 --> 00:16:36,412 and I will do cartwheels all day. 372 00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:37,623 Thank you very much. 373 00:16:41,376 --> 00:16:43,002 He's in the NFL! 374 00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,963 - Oh, God! God! - It's a video! Woo! 375 00:16:45,422 --> 00:16:48,216 Justin... Justin got kicked out of Lit. 376 00:16:48,217 --> 00:16:50,552 Oh, here, New York Giants, New England Patriots. 377 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:54,472 He got the game ball, um, was presented to him. 378 00:16:54,473 --> 00:16:56,725 He said he actually, I think he got his, 379 00:16:57,017 --> 00:16:59,520 I think that he sacked, uh, what's his name? 380 00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:01,605 Well, you know, what's his name? 381 00:17:03,398 --> 00:17:04,482 - Tom Brady. - From the Patriots, 382 00:17:04,483 --> 00:17:06,108 what's his name? Tom Brady. 383 00:17:06,109 --> 00:17:08,487 And he-- I think he did in the preseason too, 384 00:17:08,779 --> 00:17:10,571 his first year he was able to do that. 385 00:17:10,572 --> 00:17:12,157 But he got the game ball because he played, 386 00:17:12,449 --> 00:17:14,784 you know, played well on special teams. 387 00:17:14,785 --> 00:17:16,787 They called Tyler "White Chocolate." 388 00:17:17,329 --> 00:17:19,455 Or they'd say, "Where's Weirdo?" 389 00:17:19,456 --> 00:17:20,957 You know, instead of, "Where's Waldo?" 390 00:17:20,958 --> 00:17:22,417 You know, because he was the only white guy. 391 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:24,628 I don't know, because he was the only white guy. 392 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,964 And he really liked his coaches there, and-- 393 00:17:27,965 --> 00:17:30,925 Antrel Rolle on the defensive backfield 394 00:17:30,926 --> 00:17:32,636 was one of his really close friends. 395 00:17:32,928 --> 00:17:34,887 No, I was just joking about 396 00:17:34,888 --> 00:17:37,473 the, uh, the whole key to the city in Oskaloosa thing. 397 00:17:37,474 --> 00:17:39,935 It was just a joke. But I was just trying to-- 398 00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:42,019 trying to make a point 399 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:44,480 on, uh, how-- how big it really was with that game. 400 00:17:44,481 --> 00:17:47,024 You know, it's, uh-- getting a key to New York City, 401 00:17:47,025 --> 00:17:48,609 that's pretty, pretty incredible. 402 00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:51,029 The people here in Iowa caught wind of that, 403 00:17:51,822 --> 00:17:54,490 and they decided they were going to make him a key. 404 00:17:54,491 --> 00:17:56,285 We have a foundry here in town, 405 00:17:56,827 --> 00:17:59,495 and they came up with a key. 406 00:17:59,496 --> 00:18:02,457 So, he had to accept the key to the city. 407 00:18:02,749 --> 00:18:05,043 He had to give a speech, and he was a nervous wreck 408 00:18:05,335 --> 00:18:07,462 about getting-- Having to give a speech. 409 00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:10,339 It's with great pleasure that I present you with this, 410 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:11,592 the key to the city of Oskaloosa. 411 00:18:11,884 --> 00:18:14,094 Congratulations. It's well deserved. 412 00:18:23,312 --> 00:18:26,440 Hopefully, this opens Jaarsma Bakery on Sunday mornings. 413 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:30,277 Okay, I'm trying-- I'm going to try to 414 00:18:30,611 --> 00:18:32,487 keep giving back to this community as much as I can, 415 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:35,657 and, uh, help put Oskaloosa on the map as much as we can. 416 00:18:35,949 --> 00:18:38,367 Definitely going to be-- be put on the top shelf, 417 00:18:38,368 --> 00:18:41,245 uh, put the New York City key on the shelf below. 418 00:18:41,246 --> 00:18:42,664 You know, this is where I'm from, 419 00:18:42,956 --> 00:18:45,501 always be from here, uh, be from the state of Iowa, 420 00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:47,544 and I'm-- I'm happy to represent the state of Iowa. 421 00:19:02,851 --> 00:19:07,022 During his second year with the New York Giants, 422 00:19:07,314 --> 00:19:11,193 he was having to give-- after being a Super Bowl champion, 423 00:19:11,485 --> 00:19:12,985 Tyler's probably more like me 424 00:19:12,986 --> 00:19:15,780 where he doesn't love to stand up on a podium 425 00:19:15,781 --> 00:19:17,491 and talk to-- In front of people. 426 00:19:17,783 --> 00:19:22,037 And he was invited to some other, um, sports shows. 427 00:19:22,329 --> 00:19:24,330 So, he was so nervous about it. 428 00:19:24,331 --> 00:19:26,499 He went to a doctor here in town, 429 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:27,876 and was prescribed Adderall 430 00:19:28,168 --> 00:19:30,044 because he said, "I can't focus." 431 00:19:30,045 --> 00:19:31,547 You know, "Like, I have a hard time 432 00:19:31,839 --> 00:19:33,507 focusing because I'm so nervous." 433 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:34,800 He only had 434 00:19:35,259 --> 00:19:37,719 a-- a prescription for-- for Adderall. 435 00:19:38,011 --> 00:19:42,139 And here he gave a speech over here at William Penn University 436 00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:45,519 when they, uh, awarded him the key to the city. 437 00:19:45,811 --> 00:19:47,896 After he did that interview, 438 00:19:48,188 --> 00:19:50,023 for some unknown reason, 439 00:19:50,899 --> 00:19:53,067 somebody drove to Oskaloosa 440 00:19:53,068 --> 00:19:56,362 and tested his urine for the NFL. 441 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,407 And he knew from that point, 442 00:19:58,699 --> 00:20:01,075 um, talking to him about it later on, 443 00:20:01,076 --> 00:20:04,328 and him telling us it was probably going to-- 444 00:20:04,329 --> 00:20:06,456 to come out in the news 445 00:20:06,748 --> 00:20:10,751 that-- that he'd tested positive for a drug. 446 00:20:10,752 --> 00:20:12,920 He didn't follow the proper protocol. 447 00:20:12,921 --> 00:20:15,716 So, he was suspended for the first four games, 448 00:20:16,008 --> 00:20:18,010 because he tested positive for Adderall. 449 00:20:18,552 --> 00:20:22,055 Even Tom Coughlin, his coach for the New York Giants, 450 00:20:22,347 --> 00:20:24,348 stood in his defense and said, 451 00:20:24,349 --> 00:20:26,602 "This is a kid who follows every single rule 452 00:20:26,894 --> 00:20:28,603 we ask him to follow, 453 00:20:28,604 --> 00:20:31,606 who jumps through every hoop, and such a good kid. 454 00:20:31,607 --> 00:20:33,483 And for him to be slapped on the hand 455 00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:37,613 because he was taking a prescription drug 456 00:20:37,905 --> 00:20:41,199 that he has a prescription for is just silly." 457 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,536 I-- I definitely, um, he didn't have to accept to see me. 458 00:20:44,828 --> 00:20:47,330 And, uh, since he did accept to see me, 459 00:20:47,331 --> 00:20:52,503 you never know if maybe he'll reduce it or take it away or, 460 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:55,171 you know, I might-- I might still have the four games. 461 00:20:55,172 --> 00:20:58,257 So, you know, um, I just want more of an explanation. 462 00:20:58,258 --> 00:21:01,553 Um, there's been some cases that I know of, and 463 00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,013 um, that-- that people have gotten off, um, 464 00:21:04,014 --> 00:21:05,682 with the same exact thing as me. 465 00:21:05,974 --> 00:21:09,936 So I just want to know what mine-- Why mine is different. 466 00:21:09,937 --> 00:21:13,273 My son was so confident that he was right 467 00:21:13,565 --> 00:21:15,358 and he didn't break any rules. 468 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,028 He made an appointment to go see Commissioner Goodell, 469 00:21:18,946 --> 00:21:22,366 and he-- he was sure of himself that he would see it. 470 00:21:23,283 --> 00:21:24,951 He said, "Well, Tyler," you know, 471 00:21:24,952 --> 00:21:27,328 he said, "Sorry, but rules are rules." 472 00:21:27,329 --> 00:21:29,413 Tyler tried to explain that 473 00:21:29,414 --> 00:21:31,582 there was these other guys that did so much worse, 474 00:21:31,583 --> 00:21:34,002 and they didn't even get anything like he did. 475 00:21:34,586 --> 00:21:37,547 He felt like they made an example out of him, 476 00:21:37,548 --> 00:21:40,341 and he was so not happy about that. 477 00:21:40,342 --> 00:21:43,512 And so, he felt like that cost him his chance 478 00:21:43,804 --> 00:21:47,641 at a starting position for, you know, as safety that year. 479 00:21:47,933 --> 00:21:50,309 The Giants safety was penalized back in March 480 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:52,353 for taking Adderall without filling out 481 00:21:52,354 --> 00:21:54,105 the proper paperwork with the league. 482 00:21:54,106 --> 00:21:56,441 Sash said the drug was prescribed by a doctor 483 00:21:56,733 --> 00:21:58,819 to manage his anxiety during public speaking events 484 00:21:59,111 --> 00:22:00,362 during the off season. 485 00:22:00,654 --> 00:22:03,614 He was fined somewhere in the range 486 00:22:03,615 --> 00:22:07,326 of $100,000, and he had to sit out for four-- 487 00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:08,745 four games. 488 00:22:09,037 --> 00:22:10,622 And so then he, from that point in the season, 489 00:22:10,914 --> 00:22:14,710 he struggled with ankle injuries and-- and shoulder. 490 00:22:15,002 --> 00:22:16,377 Uh, I feel like, uh, you know, 491 00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:17,796 everybody's competing every year. 492 00:22:18,088 --> 00:22:20,006 Every day. I'm just trying to come out and improve 493 00:22:20,007 --> 00:22:21,592 and get better every day. 494 00:22:21,884 --> 00:22:23,719 And, you know, I know what kind of a football player I am 495 00:22:24,011 --> 00:22:27,597 and, uh, that I can help any team out that needs help. 496 00:22:27,598 --> 00:22:28,807 Of course, it's a business, 497 00:22:29,099 --> 00:22:31,351 and so you're always skeptical and-- 498 00:22:31,643 --> 00:22:34,354 and somewhat nervous about making the team 499 00:22:34,646 --> 00:22:37,523 when they cut down to that-- to that roster. 500 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:40,611 And his, his coaches had assured him 501 00:22:40,903 --> 00:22:44,656 that he had nothing to worry about at all. Um... 502 00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:48,452 Well, he got released going into our third year. 503 00:22:48,744 --> 00:22:50,453 Uh, he had a couple of concussions, 504 00:22:50,454 --> 00:22:52,456 and it just got to the point where they didn't know 505 00:22:52,748 --> 00:22:55,042 if he was going to be able to, you know, play at a high level. 506 00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:59,045 And then I knew, uh, after that third one, 507 00:22:59,046 --> 00:23:01,255 that his third year there 508 00:23:01,256 --> 00:23:04,217 in that preseason game, he got hit really hard. 509 00:23:04,218 --> 00:23:06,136 Well, I don't think he ever recovered from that. 510 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:08,137 Quite a surprise that he was cut. 511 00:23:08,138 --> 00:23:12,266 He was shocked and of course, you know, he-- 512 00:23:12,267 --> 00:23:14,477 That-- that fire though was, 513 00:23:14,478 --> 00:23:18,314 was in him that he was gonna get picked up by another team. 514 00:23:18,315 --> 00:23:19,942 He couldn't-- He wasn't cleared, 515 00:23:20,234 --> 00:23:23,570 but he packed his stuff anyways and drove from New York 516 00:23:23,862 --> 00:23:26,490 to Iowa so he could be ready. 517 00:23:29,618 --> 00:23:32,495 That's not a good thing. 518 00:23:32,496 --> 00:23:36,792 The eating here is, it's good, but it's really bad. 519 00:23:37,376 --> 00:23:40,462 Probably came out the ocean that day, or the day before. 520 00:23:40,754 --> 00:23:42,881 Yeah. I mean, you down on the Gulf coast? 521 00:23:43,173 --> 00:23:44,674 where were y'all at, boat? 522 00:23:44,675 --> 00:23:48,594 There should be a-- How to turn it off. 523 00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:50,722 All of a sudden I got balloons popping. 524 00:23:52,391 --> 00:23:54,309 You're not the only person for this topic. 525 00:23:55,352 --> 00:23:58,313 I figured that it was not on purpose. 526 00:23:58,605 --> 00:24:00,356 No, it was not on purpose. 527 00:24:00,357 --> 00:24:02,275 It isn't, okay, look at my hat. 528 00:24:02,276 --> 00:24:03,861 You smell. 529 00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:08,531 Atlanta has selected Brett Favre, 530 00:24:08,532 --> 00:24:10,200 quarterback, Southern Mississippi. 531 00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:15,329 I played, uh, 20 seasons in the National Football League. 532 00:24:15,330 --> 00:24:16,748 Favre, ball down. 533 00:24:18,917 --> 00:24:20,586 Brett Favre! 534 00:24:21,378 --> 00:24:23,838 If you count college, I played all four years 535 00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:25,799 and started all four years in college. 536 00:24:26,091 --> 00:24:30,012 So, 24. If you count high school, 26. So, a long time. 537 00:24:31,138 --> 00:24:33,223 Favre bringing it in for a touchdown. 538 00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:34,433 Look at my kid. 539 00:24:35,434 --> 00:24:38,228 Look at this kid. High school! Take a look! 540 00:24:39,438 --> 00:24:42,523 I can't tell you how many times my head hits the turf... 541 00:24:42,524 --> 00:24:44,484 and stars 542 00:24:44,776 --> 00:24:46,862 or fireworks or whatever went off. 543 00:24:47,154 --> 00:24:49,030 Uh, did I lose my memory? 544 00:24:49,031 --> 00:24:52,408 No, not really. Was I foggy? Yeah. 545 00:24:52,409 --> 00:24:55,494 Was I able to play? Yeah. I never thought about it. 546 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,288 I didn't think that was a concussion. 547 00:24:57,289 --> 00:24:58,707 It's hard to even put a number on... 548 00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:01,585 how many of those I had. 549 00:25:01,877 --> 00:25:03,003 There's an unwritten rule. 550 00:25:03,295 --> 00:25:04,796 You can't make the club in the tub. 551 00:25:05,088 --> 00:25:10,135 If-- if-- if you're hurt, sometimes, it's legitimate. 552 00:25:10,427 --> 00:25:12,303 Other times, you question it. 553 00:25:12,304 --> 00:25:16,141 But if-- if you're not playing, you know, 554 00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:17,851 eventually they're not paying. 555 00:25:18,143 --> 00:25:20,854 And I got my job because the guy in front of me 556 00:25:21,146 --> 00:25:22,272 sprained-- sprained his ankle. 557 00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:25,107 No one knew who I was, including me. 558 00:25:25,108 --> 00:25:28,403 And I was thrust into the-- to the spotlight. 559 00:25:28,695 --> 00:25:30,404 And here is the quarterback 560 00:25:30,405 --> 00:25:33,116 for the Green Bay Packers, Brett Favre. 561 00:25:33,408 --> 00:25:37,286 Don Makowski, who had been a very good quarterback, 562 00:25:37,287 --> 00:25:38,789 and I'm sure he thought, "This guy'll screw it up. 563 00:25:39,081 --> 00:25:40,498 I'll be back soon." 564 00:25:40,499 --> 00:25:42,584 20 years later, he's still waiting. 565 00:25:42,876 --> 00:25:44,670 Makowski under pressure and goes down. 566 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,631 And here's second year quarterback, Brett Favre, 567 00:25:48,632 --> 00:25:50,926 out of Southern Mississippi, by way of the Atlanta Falcons. 568 00:25:51,218 --> 00:25:53,344 With 35, 19 seconds left. 569 00:25:53,345 --> 00:25:55,556 Favre parks Brooks! Touchdown! 570 00:25:59,518 --> 00:26:01,769 No one would know who Tom Brady is 571 00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:03,354 if it were not for 572 00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:05,732 a guy hitting Drew Bledsoe on the sidelines. 573 00:26:07,693 --> 00:26:08,902 Bledsoe. 574 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:11,445 Better run. Needs ten yards. 575 00:26:11,446 --> 00:26:13,198 Oh, a clean hit. 576 00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:15,868 Apparently, Bledsoe knocked around a little more 577 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:20,079 than it appeared, and, uh, Brady in charge. 578 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,332 Uh, and-- and for me, it was always like, 579 00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:24,375 "Remember how you got your spot. 580 00:26:24,376 --> 00:26:28,045 And remember how quickly he lost his. 581 00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:30,424 Don't ever be a fool and think otherwise." 582 00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:40,308 Here's your basic problem. 583 00:26:40,309 --> 00:26:46,272 The NFL dominates American culture in a way 584 00:26:46,273 --> 00:26:49,526 that no sport in our lifetime has ever done. 585 00:26:50,277 --> 00:26:54,114 If you actually understand the way football is played, 586 00:26:54,823 --> 00:26:58,660 we've created a new generation of robo-players. 587 00:26:59,286 --> 00:27:03,748 Size that was unimaginable 20 years ago. 588 00:27:03,749 --> 00:27:09,671 If a player was standing on the 95th story building, 589 00:27:10,464 --> 00:27:13,550 um, threatening to jump, 590 00:27:13,842 --> 00:27:16,595 he would find 10 people around him that would say, 591 00:27:16,887 --> 00:27:21,642 "Law of gravity? Doesn't apply to you. Go ahead, show them." 592 00:27:22,518 --> 00:27:26,897 If you are engaging in a sport that has head contact in it, 593 00:27:28,023 --> 00:27:30,066 you might as well come to the conclusion that 594 00:27:30,067 --> 00:27:31,902 that is going to be one of the manifestations 595 00:27:32,194 --> 00:27:33,654 of what happens. 596 00:27:33,946 --> 00:27:35,571 Yeah, everybody knows you're going to have bad knees 597 00:27:35,572 --> 00:27:37,282 and shoulders and elbows and stuff like that, 598 00:27:37,574 --> 00:27:38,659 but nobody ever mentioned the brain. 599 00:27:40,702 --> 00:27:42,662 Well, we were just together that summer 600 00:27:42,663 --> 00:27:44,288 before he went to New York and then 601 00:27:44,289 --> 00:27:46,458 I went back to Iowa State to finish up school. 602 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,335 Um, we kept in contact between then, 603 00:27:49,336 --> 00:27:52,296 but then, um, after he got cut from the Giants, 604 00:27:52,297 --> 00:27:55,509 and he came back here, I had since had a daughter. 605 00:27:55,801 --> 00:27:57,635 Um, she's now four. 606 00:27:57,636 --> 00:28:03,224 And um, we just kind of picked back up where we left off. 607 00:28:03,225 --> 00:28:04,643 Listen, I got up and I said, 608 00:28:04,935 --> 00:28:07,479 "I'm finally picking up my niece for a game." 609 00:28:13,277 --> 00:28:16,154 Ready, set... go! 610 00:28:16,446 --> 00:28:17,406 Come on, jump! 611 00:28:20,617 --> 00:28:21,785 Haelyn, say, "Roar." 612 00:28:22,077 --> 00:28:23,370 Roar! 613 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:28,082 Haelyn, look at mama. 614 00:28:28,083 --> 00:28:29,168 Say hi! 615 00:28:32,171 --> 00:28:33,714 It was one of a kind. 616 00:28:34,006 --> 00:28:37,800 Tyler was definitely her father figure. 617 00:28:37,801 --> 00:28:39,343 Talking to him every time 618 00:28:39,344 --> 00:28:42,806 he had gone out to do a tryout for a team. 619 00:28:43,098 --> 00:28:47,185 I remember him going to Denver, and I can't remember the-- 620 00:28:47,186 --> 00:28:49,730 the team for sure in-- in Florida, 621 00:28:50,022 --> 00:28:53,232 but going to multiple different places. 622 00:28:53,233 --> 00:28:55,234 I want to say he also went to the Eagles, and-- 623 00:28:55,235 --> 00:29:01,241 and did tryouts, and his body basically couldn't handle it. 624 00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:02,659 He always felt he can deal with pain. 625 00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:05,203 Pain was nothing. It's just a way of life. 626 00:29:05,204 --> 00:29:06,621 So, when you try to talk to him 627 00:29:06,622 --> 00:29:08,415 about stuff like that, you know, 628 00:29:08,707 --> 00:29:10,917 kind of brush it off as in, you know, just-- we all deal 629 00:29:10,918 --> 00:29:12,877 with it. We all have to, you know, worry about it, 630 00:29:12,878 --> 00:29:14,463 so we don't even need to talk about it. 631 00:29:14,755 --> 00:29:18,174 He-- he had thrown up for, 632 00:29:18,175 --> 00:29:20,844 I'd say, six months after that last concussion. 633 00:29:21,136 --> 00:29:25,140 Well, he was confused in that he kept repeating himself 634 00:29:25,432 --> 00:29:28,184 over and over and over, about things that were going on 635 00:29:28,185 --> 00:29:31,103 during the game, or stories that he was telling us. 636 00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:34,190 And, you know, his brother finally said to him, 637 00:29:34,191 --> 00:29:37,319 "Ty, you've already told us that three or four times." 638 00:29:37,611 --> 00:29:41,615 I felt sad because I thought his brother didn't understand, 639 00:29:41,907 --> 00:29:43,407 and I didn't understand, 640 00:29:43,408 --> 00:29:46,202 but I-- I knew that something was not right. 641 00:29:46,203 --> 00:29:48,080 His mom told me about some things that-- 642 00:29:48,372 --> 00:29:49,331 that, uh, he was doing, 643 00:29:49,581 --> 00:29:51,457 you know, asking repetitive things 644 00:29:51,458 --> 00:29:55,211 and leaving the door open, leaving the refrigerator open, 645 00:29:55,212 --> 00:29:58,131 milk on the, you know, on the counter, 646 00:29:58,423 --> 00:30:01,552 all sorts of things that I didn't know was happening. 647 00:30:02,553 --> 00:30:05,681 And Tyler was so excited about the opportunity. 648 00:30:05,973 --> 00:30:07,891 And then like, tomorrow you'd ask Tyler, 649 00:30:08,183 --> 00:30:09,768 well, has Charles called? "No." 650 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:12,437 You know, like he-- it was like he didn't even remember. 651 00:30:12,729 --> 00:30:14,480 Right. 652 00:30:14,481 --> 00:30:17,275 So I had never actually heard of CTE at all. 653 00:30:17,276 --> 00:30:20,319 My thinking was, I have no idea what that is. 654 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,864 And so I immediately Googled it. 655 00:30:22,155 --> 00:30:24,949 And I-- I went down the list of-- 656 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:28,703 the list of symptoms, and it was unbelievable. 657 00:30:28,704 --> 00:30:30,413 I looked at his girlfriend, 658 00:30:30,414 --> 00:30:32,291 her and I sat there on the couch right here, and-- 659 00:30:32,583 --> 00:30:36,252 And, I was like, this is Tyler, 660 00:30:36,253 --> 00:30:39,506 a hundred percent, like every single one of them, 661 00:30:39,798 --> 00:30:43,009 the anxiety, the depression, the sleeplessness. 662 00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:46,220 When you think about concussion, 663 00:30:46,221 --> 00:30:48,973 no one concussion's really the same. 664 00:30:48,974 --> 00:30:52,561 You see different symptoms like headaches, you see dizziness, 665 00:30:52,853 --> 00:30:55,230 you'll hear fogginess, you know, you'll hear things 666 00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:58,149 like sleep deprivation that are associated with it. 667 00:30:58,150 --> 00:31:01,195 But ultimately, that means it's very heterogeneous. 668 00:31:01,612 --> 00:31:03,989 Um, the brain, there's no one brain the same. 669 00:31:04,281 --> 00:31:05,866 If I get hit here and you get hit here, 670 00:31:06,158 --> 00:31:07,743 it might be a little bit different response. 671 00:31:08,035 --> 00:31:09,453 And that's the thing about-- 672 00:31:09,745 --> 00:31:12,580 about concussions is, you don't necessarily 673 00:31:12,581 --> 00:31:15,542 have to have a thousand to have worse brain damage. 674 00:31:15,834 --> 00:31:19,295 You can suffer one concussion, and the repercussions 675 00:31:19,296 --> 00:31:21,798 could be as bad as having five thousand. 676 00:31:24,009 --> 00:31:27,595 We went five and six, we lost three games 677 00:31:27,596 --> 00:31:29,848 by a point, uh, each game by a point. 678 00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:31,850 Did you beat 'Bama that year or the year before? 679 00:31:32,142 --> 00:31:34,228 - We didn't play 'em that year. - Right. 680 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,315 No, we did play 'em. We did play 'em. Uh... 681 00:31:38,815 --> 00:31:40,776 You guys beat Alabama when you played? 682 00:31:41,401 --> 00:31:43,904 Why are you acting so surprised? We beat Alabama. 683 00:31:44,196 --> 00:31:45,863 They haven't lost in... 684 00:31:45,864 --> 00:31:47,908 We beat Alabama, and we beat them up and down 685 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,538 the field and we lost, si-- uh, 16-14. 686 00:31:52,829 --> 00:31:55,999 We kicked field goal in, and-- and our straight on kicker, 687 00:31:56,291 --> 00:32:00,671 I'll never forget, his name's Stump, Jim Taylor, and just-- 688 00:32:00,963 --> 00:32:02,588 hit it. I mean, it's like 20 yards. 689 00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:04,423 We lost him and then the next week, 690 00:32:04,424 --> 00:32:06,677 we go to Auburn and play, and we beat Auburn. 691 00:32:07,761 --> 00:32:09,595 I-if you can imagine two guys, 692 00:32:09,596 --> 00:32:11,390 two big grown men, 693 00:32:12,015 --> 00:32:14,768 running from opposite sides of the field, full speed, 694 00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:17,646 and running to each other, that's exactly what it is. 695 00:32:17,938 --> 00:32:22,525 It's like having a bunch of accidents within three hours. 696 00:32:22,526 --> 00:32:25,611 You know, I know that, uh, we're all gonna have it. 697 00:32:25,612 --> 00:32:27,572 I know that it's in me. 698 00:32:27,573 --> 00:32:30,492 I know it's in a lot of players that played in the NFL, 699 00:32:30,784 --> 00:32:34,745 especially those that played right from Pop Warner. 700 00:32:34,746 --> 00:32:36,331 You know, you played all your life. 701 00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:38,458 Uh, you're gonna have some kind of damage 702 00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:40,126 when you keep hitting heads. 703 00:32:40,127 --> 00:32:41,460 You got a little headache. 704 00:32:41,461 --> 00:32:43,088 You got a little dizziness. 705 00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:48,259 You make millions of dollars versus out on the street. 706 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:50,469 I-- I'm gonna take the dizziness and just 707 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:52,139 try to go back in and play. 708 00:32:52,848 --> 00:32:56,810 But then at 50, when no one else is, you know, worried about you, 709 00:32:57,102 --> 00:33:01,565 no one cares, what, you know, what are you gonna be like? 710 00:33:01,857 --> 00:33:04,610 Mo-- for the most part, people that live here, you know, 711 00:33:04,902 --> 00:33:07,738 they might say hello, but, uh, they're good about it. 712 00:33:23,754 --> 00:33:27,882 For me, it's a bit like, uh, Sherlock and Holmes. 713 00:33:27,883 --> 00:33:29,258 You know, you-- you've got the patient, 714 00:33:29,259 --> 00:33:31,303 you've got the-- the clinical symptoms. 715 00:33:31,595 --> 00:33:33,262 Last month, Dr. Anne McKee 716 00:33:33,263 --> 00:33:35,599 was named the 2017 Bostonian of the Year 717 00:33:35,891 --> 00:33:37,559 by the Boston Globe for all this work. 718 00:33:37,851 --> 00:33:41,020 And were recently named the Time 2018 on the list 719 00:33:41,021 --> 00:33:44,691 of the 100 most influential people in the world. 720 00:33:45,025 --> 00:33:46,735 I unequivocally think there's a link 721 00:33:47,027 --> 00:33:49,237 between playing football and CTE. 722 00:33:49,238 --> 00:33:51,155 But the fact that over five years, 723 00:33:51,156 --> 00:33:54,659 I've been able to accumulate this number of cases 724 00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:58,163 in football players, ca-- uh, it cannot be rare. 725 00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:02,208 And the other feature of CTE is that the individual themselves, 726 00:34:02,209 --> 00:34:05,003 uh, complains that they can't control their mind. 727 00:34:05,295 --> 00:34:08,005 They have these, uh, impulses, they want to behave 728 00:34:08,006 --> 00:34:11,051 in certain ways, and it's very difficult for them 729 00:34:11,343 --> 00:34:15,805 to control this-- these thought processes or these actions. 730 00:34:15,806 --> 00:34:19,225 My first year in Atlanta, we-- I get drafted 731 00:34:19,226 --> 00:34:22,563 by Atlanta. A week before this regular season starts, 732 00:34:22,855 --> 00:34:25,815 they cut every quarterback except the starter and myself. 733 00:34:25,816 --> 00:34:27,526 I'm like, man, this is pretty good. 734 00:34:27,818 --> 00:34:29,653 Why I was thinking that, 735 00:34:29,945 --> 00:34:33,824 I have no idea. I put on 25 pounds in about four weeks. 736 00:34:34,116 --> 00:34:36,951 I was drinking a lot of beer, eating a lot of hot wings. 737 00:34:36,952 --> 00:34:38,704 And I'm thinking, this is a good thing. 738 00:34:38,996 --> 00:34:41,415 Well-- no more than I said that, 739 00:34:41,707 --> 00:34:43,542 they bring in Billy Joe Tolliver. 740 00:34:43,834 --> 00:34:45,544 Jim's walking in the building. They had just traded for him. 741 00:34:45,836 --> 00:34:47,671 He was a starter in San Diego for a while. 742 00:34:48,755 --> 00:34:52,801 And, uh, firecracker red hair, cocky as all get out. 743 00:34:53,385 --> 00:34:55,052 Worse than me. 744 00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:58,473 We hit it off, but we hated each other at first. 745 00:34:58,765 --> 00:35:01,643 And we sort of hated each other, kinda, even when we hit it off. 746 00:35:02,477 --> 00:35:04,896 But I had a strong arm. And one thing I knew, 747 00:35:04,897 --> 00:35:07,065 I didn't think anybody in the country, 748 00:35:07,608 --> 00:35:10,526 or in the world, could throw it as hard-- as-- as far as me. 749 00:35:10,527 --> 00:35:12,195 That was kind of my deal. 750 00:35:12,196 --> 00:35:15,199 He was f-five, six years older than me, been around. 751 00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:16,491 So he kind of pushed me around. 752 00:35:16,783 --> 00:35:18,452 Hey-- hey, rookie, carry my helmet. 753 00:35:18,744 --> 00:35:20,494 I'm like, I ain't carrying your helmet. 754 00:35:20,495 --> 00:35:24,540 I said, I tell you what, I challenge you to a throw off, 755 00:35:24,541 --> 00:35:26,418 'cause he had a strong arm. I said-- 756 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:29,128 He said, oh, , let's do it. 757 00:35:29,129 --> 00:35:31,673 So everybody in the whole team ga-- gathered round, 758 00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:33,591 at the end of practice. 759 00:35:33,592 --> 00:35:34,927 And he said, all right, rookie, you go first. 760 00:35:36,178 --> 00:35:38,012 Didn't matter to me. 761 00:35:38,013 --> 00:35:41,517 I backed up. I took two steps, threw it. 762 00:35:41,808 --> 00:35:45,437 It kind of end-over-end wobbled. 83. 763 00:35:45,729 --> 00:35:48,273 Billy Joe had a ball, and he went, oh, hell, I quit. 764 00:35:50,234 --> 00:35:53,070 And we-- after that, we were fine. We were fine. 765 00:36:02,287 --> 00:36:05,540 When I had talked to Dr. Bales, he said, 766 00:36:05,541 --> 00:36:09,168 what I'm trying to do is-- is study living players, 767 00:36:09,169 --> 00:36:14,049 to find out how much tau protein is in your brain. 768 00:36:14,341 --> 00:36:16,092 Well, I said, well, I don't know what tau protein is. 769 00:36:16,093 --> 00:36:18,053 And he said, well, tau protein, everyone has it. 770 00:36:18,971 --> 00:36:21,932 But what we're finding is, all these deceased players 771 00:36:22,933 --> 00:36:24,768 have a high level of tau protein. 772 00:36:25,394 --> 00:36:29,398 And he said, uh, I want to see if 773 00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:32,233 living players have it in elevated levels, 774 00:36:32,234 --> 00:36:35,279 that obviously play football, or hockey, or whatever. 775 00:36:36,029 --> 00:36:40,199 And so I thought, you know, interesting. 776 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,828 But my next comment was, okay, doc. 777 00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:46,540 So I got elevated levels of tau protein. 778 00:36:47,332 --> 00:36:49,543 Do you, do you treat it? 779 00:36:50,085 --> 00:36:53,212 He said, no, there's no-- 780 00:36:53,213 --> 00:36:56,424 All we can do is say you have elevated levels. 781 00:36:56,425 --> 00:36:59,386 So, I chose not to do it, because I said, 782 00:37:00,095 --> 00:37:02,388 then if I have el-- elevated levels, 783 00:37:02,389 --> 00:37:04,474 I'm always going to be wondering, all right, when is, 784 00:37:04,766 --> 00:37:08,437 you know, you know, when am I going to deteriorate to a point? 785 00:37:08,729 --> 00:37:10,689 So, it's best not to know. 786 00:37:11,023 --> 00:37:12,524 It's an emotional roller coaster. 787 00:37:12,816 --> 00:37:14,734 Some days are good. Some days are bad. 788 00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:16,862 I think about if he would have gone the basketball route, 789 00:37:17,154 --> 00:37:19,488 you know, this might not have happened. 790 00:37:19,489 --> 00:37:21,992 You know, he's not making sense of things. 791 00:37:22,326 --> 00:37:23,744 He can't get the insurance. 792 00:37:24,036 --> 00:37:25,245 He can't move on, because he 793 00:37:25,537 --> 00:37:26,955 hasn't had the shoulder surgery yet. 794 00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:29,124 And he's still sitting here on pain medicine... 795 00:37:29,416 --> 00:37:31,501 Or he would be really focused on one thing. 796 00:37:31,502 --> 00:37:35,379 One time he would be focused on selling insurance, 797 00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:37,465 or he would be leaning more towards real estate. 798 00:37:37,466 --> 00:37:40,761 He's googling brain injuries, and head trauma, 799 00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:43,304 and-- and things like that, like on his phone, 800 00:37:43,305 --> 00:37:45,264 and on his computer. 801 00:37:45,265 --> 00:37:46,725 You know, when I would stay there on the weekends, 802 00:37:47,017 --> 00:37:48,852 he would maybe get an hour of sleep. 803 00:37:49,144 --> 00:37:50,896 If I would wake up, he would be cleaning, 804 00:37:51,188 --> 00:37:54,649 or he would be watching movies, or-- he was always awake. 805 00:37:54,650 --> 00:37:56,068 He could never fall asleep. 806 00:37:56,568 --> 00:37:59,488 He would get his mail every day, and he'd throw it on the table. 807 00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:01,949 And I bet it laid there for a month. 808 00:38:02,574 --> 00:38:05,576 And I said, honey, don't you have some, you know, 809 00:38:05,577 --> 00:38:08,580 like your phone bill and your, you know, utilities and stuff? 810 00:38:08,872 --> 00:38:10,540 And he goes, yeah, I'll take care of it. 811 00:38:10,541 --> 00:38:12,166 You know, he just couldn't 812 00:38:12,167 --> 00:38:16,255 focus long enough to do the basic everyday tasks. 813 00:38:16,547 --> 00:38:19,423 When you do the physics of one person running 814 00:38:19,424 --> 00:38:21,468 at eight miles an hour, and another person running 815 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,094 at eight miles an hour, 816 00:38:23,095 --> 00:38:25,389 and them colliding helmet to helmet, 817 00:38:25,681 --> 00:38:28,600 the forces is almost equal to that of 818 00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:30,477 standing still and swinging somebody-- 819 00:38:30,769 --> 00:38:32,354 swinging a sledgehammer, and hitting somebody in the head. 820 00:38:32,855 --> 00:38:33,939 Think of a woodpecker. 821 00:38:34,231 --> 00:38:35,816 Woodpecker smacks its head, 822 00:38:37,693 --> 00:38:40,778 thousands and thousands of times every hour. 823 00:38:40,779 --> 00:38:44,073 Woodpeckers have a tongue that's, surprisingly, 824 00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:45,576 longer than the bird is, 825 00:38:45,868 --> 00:38:48,245 and it goes back in and it wraps around its brain. 826 00:38:48,704 --> 00:38:51,164 And when it starts--- when it starts pecking the wood, 827 00:38:51,456 --> 00:38:54,585 it's safe inside of that tongue 828 00:38:54,877 --> 00:38:57,378 that's wrapped around-- it's cushioned in there. 829 00:38:57,379 --> 00:38:59,505 That's why a woodpecker can do that, and not get 830 00:38:59,506 --> 00:39:01,967 chronic traumatic woodpecker encephalopathy. 831 00:39:02,259 --> 00:39:05,553 Um, other animals were made to do that. Humans were not. 832 00:39:05,554 --> 00:39:07,638 We have no protection, but a little bit 833 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:09,433 of fluid around our brains. 834 00:39:09,725 --> 00:39:13,604 We weren't-- we weren't meant, as a species, to do that. 835 00:39:13,896 --> 00:39:15,606 When I was in college, before I started 836 00:39:15,898 --> 00:39:19,525 playing football, I used to hear people say, I'm depressed. 837 00:39:19,526 --> 00:39:21,611 And I'm like, what is that like? 838 00:39:21,612 --> 00:39:24,448 You know, seriously, what is depression like? 839 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:26,073 I said, I love life. 840 00:39:26,074 --> 00:39:28,576 Life is great. You know, why-- why-- 841 00:39:28,577 --> 00:39:30,621 why are people depressed? 842 00:39:30,913 --> 00:39:35,541 You know, but, uh, today, I catch myself, you know, 843 00:39:35,542 --> 00:39:40,880 sitting at home sometimes, man, I'm really down right now. 844 00:39:40,881 --> 00:39:42,758 'Cause I played with a bunch of guys. 845 00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:45,677 I know a bunch of guys who took their lives and-- 846 00:39:45,969 --> 00:39:49,515 and, um, they were in the same boat as I am. 847 00:39:49,806 --> 00:39:51,516 Is that going to be me someday? 848 00:39:51,517 --> 00:39:53,519 You know, will I get that low and, 849 00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:56,396 you know, something will happen to me? 850 00:39:56,688 --> 00:39:59,691 When they talk about helmets, I laugh. 851 00:39:59,983 --> 00:40:02,026 I don't care what kind of helmet 852 00:40:02,027 --> 00:40:05,447 you put on a football player's head. 853 00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:08,366 When you have a collision, you're not going to stop 854 00:40:08,367 --> 00:40:11,745 the brain from smacking up against the inside of the skull. 855 00:40:29,304 --> 00:40:31,264 I had a traumatic injury. 856 00:40:31,265 --> 00:40:35,393 I broke my neck, uh, in 2016, uh, against the Dallas Cowboys. 857 00:40:35,394 --> 00:40:37,855 And, uh, ever since that day, you know, laying on the field 858 00:40:38,146 --> 00:40:40,106 and not knowing if I was going to die, not knowing if I was 859 00:40:40,107 --> 00:40:42,818 going to live again, not knowing what was going to happen. 860 00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:44,236 You don't feel anything. 861 00:40:44,528 --> 00:40:46,070 You just think that you're going to die. 862 00:40:46,071 --> 00:40:48,197 And you're just hoping for another chance. 863 00:40:48,198 --> 00:40:49,783 And you're thinking about everything you did. 864 00:40:50,075 --> 00:40:51,577 And you're thinking about, is it worth it? 865 00:40:51,869 --> 00:40:54,287 You're thinking about, did I make the best of my time? 866 00:40:54,288 --> 00:40:56,956 You're thinking about, uh, if I got another chance, 867 00:40:56,957 --> 00:40:58,458 what would I do differently? 868 00:40:58,709 --> 00:41:00,835 And it's hard to convince somebody who wants to make 869 00:41:00,836 --> 00:41:03,672 money now, that the damage that they're going to have 870 00:41:03,964 --> 00:41:07,091 five or ten years from now is going to be so significant 871 00:41:07,092 --> 00:41:10,679 that they won't be able to function appropriately. 872 00:41:10,971 --> 00:41:14,558 And there's an aspect to society that we want to be entertained. 873 00:41:14,850 --> 00:41:17,310 There's nothing like watching Terry Bradshaw 874 00:41:17,311 --> 00:41:20,188 throw a 60-yard pass at John Stallworth, and he drags 875 00:41:20,189 --> 00:41:23,107 both his toes an inch from the end zone line. 876 00:41:23,108 --> 00:41:24,442 He catches the ball and makes a touchdown, 877 00:41:24,443 --> 00:41:25,610 and wins a Super Bowl. 878 00:41:25,611 --> 00:41:27,528 A couple things. I--- 879 00:41:27,529 --> 00:41:31,617 I wasn't the sharpest guy, but I was always one that had 880 00:41:31,909 --> 00:41:33,577 a really good memory. 881 00:41:33,869 --> 00:41:36,830 And I was able to remember plays and recite plays. 882 00:41:37,122 --> 00:41:39,498 And-- and-- and still to this day, I can think of 883 00:41:39,499 --> 00:41:41,459 high school plays and how to call them, 884 00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:43,211 as if it were yesterday. 885 00:41:43,212 --> 00:41:49,342 But there are things that happen almost daily, 886 00:41:49,343 --> 00:41:53,304 where I-- I'll meet someone, and see them a week later, 887 00:41:53,305 --> 00:41:55,515 and know I know that person from somewhere, 888 00:41:55,516 --> 00:41:57,142 but I can't remember where I met them. 889 00:41:57,434 --> 00:42:00,645 And th-- to me, there's absolutely no reason whatsoever 890 00:42:00,646 --> 00:42:03,524 that I-- there are certain things that I-- that I-- 891 00:42:03,815 --> 00:42:06,401 I can't remember, whether it be a word, 892 00:42:06,693 --> 00:42:10,571 a word that I've said thousands and thousands of times. 893 00:42:10,572 --> 00:42:12,366 And I'm like, yeah, I want it-- I can't. 894 00:42:13,158 --> 00:42:14,825 And-- and-- and it happened to me this morning. 895 00:42:14,826 --> 00:42:16,912 I was thinking of a-- a person that I know 896 00:42:17,204 --> 00:42:23,125 very well, uh, that's actually a doctor, uh, in my hometown, 897 00:42:23,126 --> 00:42:28,549 who I saw two days ago, and could not think of his name. 898 00:42:28,841 --> 00:42:31,760 What used to not bother me before bothers me. 899 00:42:32,052 --> 00:42:34,888 I'm sensitive to noise. I forget things. 900 00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:37,056 People's names, I can't remember at all. 901 00:42:37,057 --> 00:42:39,350 If you tell me your name, I-- it's gone. 902 00:42:39,351 --> 00:42:41,520 I have two titanium rods in my neck, 903 00:42:41,812 --> 00:42:44,273 and my spine right now, with 16 screws. 904 00:42:44,690 --> 00:42:47,234 You know, holding me together, you know? 905 00:42:47,734 --> 00:42:51,529 So, um, that's one of the, um, things I got from football. 906 00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:55,616 Whether it be self-destructing and comm-- committing suicide, 907 00:42:55,617 --> 00:42:59,912 considering it, losing everything, health declining, 908 00:42:59,913 --> 00:43:02,123 not knowing who you are, where you are, 909 00:43:02,124 --> 00:43:05,419 where you're going, um, those are coming up 910 00:43:05,711 --> 00:43:08,672 way, way more frequent. And-- and that's scary. 911 00:43:08,964 --> 00:43:11,592 There were times where he'd sort of get up and we'd 912 00:43:11,884 --> 00:43:14,594 kind of look around and say, wow, he got a big hit there. 913 00:43:14,595 --> 00:43:17,305 But there was not the consciousness now of, 914 00:43:17,306 --> 00:43:19,557 well, we got to take him in the tents. 915 00:43:19,558 --> 00:43:21,517 We got to have him examined by an unaffiliated 916 00:43:21,518 --> 00:43:24,604 neurotrauma surgeon. We have to get him 917 00:43:24,605 --> 00:43:26,522 in the locker room. We have to go through these tests. 918 00:43:26,523 --> 00:43:28,942 It just wasn't there on our awareness. 919 00:43:29,234 --> 00:43:31,987 Taking the-- the, uh, helmet-to-helmet contact 920 00:43:32,279 --> 00:43:35,073 out of the NFL didn't affect the game one bit. 921 00:43:35,365 --> 00:43:37,325 It's still a great game. 922 00:43:37,326 --> 00:43:40,954 The-- the-- the style, the-- the grace, the ballet 923 00:43:41,246 --> 00:43:44,625 is still there. We love watching the athletes suffer, 924 00:43:44,917 --> 00:43:47,628 but that's part of making a lot of money as an entertainer. 925 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,755 Tonight, we are learning more about former Iowa Hawkeye 926 00:43:50,756 --> 00:43:53,050 football standout Tyler Sash, who's in trouble after 927 00:43:53,342 --> 00:43:56,470 police say he led them on a chase Saturday in Oskaloosa. 928 00:43:56,762 --> 00:44:01,557 So I guess he rode the scooter to-- to this place, 929 00:44:01,558 --> 00:44:03,768 here in town where all of his friends were at. 930 00:44:03,769 --> 00:44:07,939 And then had a drink, and then he left and... 931 00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:11,026 there was a cop, sitting there. And... 932 00:44:12,027 --> 00:44:15,322 Tyler, I don't know what his thought process was, 933 00:44:15,739 --> 00:44:20,953 but he ditched the scooter when he saw the-- the lights. 934 00:44:21,245 --> 00:44:24,705 And the cop said he really was just gonna let Tyler know 935 00:44:24,706 --> 00:44:26,499 he needed to have a light on that, 936 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:28,793 if he was going to be driving it in the dark. 937 00:44:28,794 --> 00:44:31,671 They did have to tase him, because they thought 938 00:44:31,672 --> 00:44:35,591 he wasn't cooperating by putting his arms back to be handcuffed, 939 00:44:35,592 --> 00:44:38,428 but he could not put his shoulders into that position. 940 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,639 After talking to Tyler after that happened, 941 00:44:40,931 --> 00:44:42,598 he was embarrassed, 942 00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,059 and he felt really bad for-- for what he did. 943 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:47,563 He called me, 'cause he wanted to tell me 944 00:44:47,855 --> 00:44:50,440 before it came out in the news. 945 00:44:50,732 --> 00:44:54,736 Uh, I know he came over here and talked to my parents and cried. 946 00:44:55,028 --> 00:44:57,531 We asked, you know, "Why? But why did you do it?" 947 00:44:57,823 --> 00:45:00,074 And he-- he literally just kept saying, 948 00:45:00,075 --> 00:45:02,703 "I don't-- I don't know. I don't really know." 949 00:45:02,995 --> 00:45:04,453 I think people, you know, 950 00:45:04,454 --> 00:45:06,455 not only does this affect the individual, 951 00:45:06,456 --> 00:45:10,042 but the stress and the trauma of taking care 952 00:45:10,043 --> 00:45:12,296 of these individuals cannot be underestimated. 953 00:45:12,588 --> 00:45:14,839 These people with this disease, 954 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,508 they tend to behave erratically. 955 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,385 They may be violent. They may be suicidal. 956 00:45:19,386 --> 00:45:20,929 They can be homicidal. 957 00:45:21,221 --> 00:45:23,557 They can be frightening for the family members. 958 00:45:39,781 --> 00:45:41,450 Uh, we got a call here at Arrowhead Stadium 959 00:45:41,742 --> 00:45:43,702 to their practice facility, in regard to a person 960 00:45:43,994 --> 00:45:45,871 who was in the parking lot armed with a handgun. 961 00:45:47,748 --> 00:45:49,541 Yeah, Jake, um, we've got, 962 00:45:49,833 --> 00:45:51,460 we do have a confirmed shooting, 963 00:45:51,752 --> 00:45:54,671 and-- and-- and it is, I believe, Belcher. 964 00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:58,008 Played with the Chiefs. We haven't confirmed that, so... 965 00:46:02,513 --> 00:46:04,515 3-36, give me a couple more cars, 966 00:46:04,806 --> 00:46:06,517 further out of district or what. 967 00:46:06,808 --> 00:46:09,018 And if somehow, I don't know if Arrowhead's got security 968 00:46:09,019 --> 00:46:11,896 or what, but get somebody on the phone. 969 00:46:11,897 --> 00:46:17,110 He's on the west side parking lot 970 00:46:17,402 --> 00:46:19,487 in a black Mercedes. 971 00:46:19,488 --> 00:46:21,155 Uh, when the officers arrived, 972 00:46:21,156 --> 00:46:22,407 when they were pulling up, they actually observed 973 00:46:22,699 --> 00:46:24,617 a Black male who had a gun to his head. 974 00:46:24,618 --> 00:46:26,410 And he was talking to a couple of coaches 975 00:46:26,411 --> 00:46:28,037 out in the parking lot. 976 00:46:28,038 --> 00:46:29,540 Uh, as officers pulled up and, uh, began to park, 977 00:46:29,831 --> 00:46:31,416 that's when they heard the gunshot. 978 00:46:31,708 --> 00:46:33,794 And, uh, it appears, uh, the individual took his own life. 979 00:46:34,086 --> 00:46:36,046 A neuropathologist says Belcher's brain 980 00:46:36,338 --> 00:46:38,590 showed evidence fully consistent 981 00:46:38,882 --> 00:46:41,050 with the pathological presentation 982 00:46:41,051 --> 00:46:43,637 of chronic traumatic encephalopathy. 983 00:46:43,929 --> 00:46:45,597 No one really has an answer for people, 984 00:46:45,889 --> 00:46:48,599 because they can go to different hospitals, 985 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,769 and-- and they may not get the advice they need. 986 00:46:51,061 --> 00:46:53,980 They may not understand that it's caused by trauma, 987 00:46:53,981 --> 00:46:55,524 caused by their exposure to football. 988 00:46:55,816 --> 00:46:58,776 So for the families, it's-- it's devastating. 989 00:46:58,777 --> 00:47:01,320 And it's not just the individual affected. 990 00:47:01,321 --> 00:47:02,781 It's everyone around them. 991 00:47:03,073 --> 00:47:04,533 Of course, I've got CTE, 992 00:47:04,825 --> 00:47:08,077 as does anybody, in my opinion, who played ball, 993 00:47:08,078 --> 00:47:11,080 because Boston University does a study. 994 00:47:11,081 --> 00:47:13,457 In the study, 99% of the people 995 00:47:13,458 --> 00:47:15,418 that they looked at showed signs of CTE. 996 00:47:15,419 --> 00:47:18,337 I'd be a fool not to think that I don't have it. 997 00:47:18,338 --> 00:47:20,715 It was-- I got my bell rung when I was a little kid. 998 00:47:20,716 --> 00:47:22,383 Uh, back then it wasn't, you know, 999 00:47:22,384 --> 00:47:23,886 you didn't have these protocols where, you know, 1000 00:47:24,178 --> 00:47:25,345 you got to go in the locker room, 1001 00:47:25,637 --> 00:47:26,972 and do a certain test and everything. 1002 00:47:27,222 --> 00:47:28,849 Back then it was, "All right, follow my finger." 1003 00:47:30,017 --> 00:47:31,685 You know, "How's-- how do you feel? 1004 00:47:31,977 --> 00:47:33,604 You're good? Okay, look, you're back in the game." 1005 00:47:34,688 --> 00:47:35,814 Drive, Haelyn. 1006 00:47:38,317 --> 00:47:39,568 Other way. 1007 00:47:43,155 --> 00:47:44,281 Keep going. 1008 00:47:45,616 --> 00:47:48,743 You know, if something was irritating him, 1009 00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:50,620 you could see it easier, 1010 00:47:50,621 --> 00:47:52,122 that it was really bothering him. 1011 00:47:52,414 --> 00:47:54,540 I think before, Tyler just kind of brushed it off. 1012 00:47:54,541 --> 00:47:58,211 He let things go easier than he did more recently. 1013 00:47:58,212 --> 00:48:00,171 If he was upset, he just wouldn't talk, 1014 00:48:00,172 --> 00:48:02,591 and he'd leave the room, or he would cry. 1015 00:48:02,883 --> 00:48:05,510 And sometimes, you know, I would ask him why, 1016 00:48:05,511 --> 00:48:07,012 and he couldn't tell me why. 1017 00:48:07,304 --> 00:48:09,263 And I always thought he didn't want to tell me why, 1018 00:48:09,264 --> 00:48:10,849 but I really think he didn't know. 1019 00:48:11,141 --> 00:48:12,142 Okay, eyes on the road. 1020 00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:14,978 Not on Snapchat. Eyes on the road. 1021 00:48:15,521 --> 00:48:16,688 Push. 1022 00:48:20,484 --> 00:48:22,485 Stop. 1023 00:48:22,486 --> 00:48:23,819 Right by Tyler's. 1024 00:48:23,820 --> 00:48:25,489 Good job. Okay. 1025 00:48:28,325 --> 00:48:29,910 Pound it. All right. 1026 00:48:30,452 --> 00:48:32,119 Uh, well, I remember when Charles Martin 1027 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,414 picked me up from behind and slammed me down. Um... 1028 00:48:35,249 --> 00:48:37,417 That-- that was actually the start of my neck problem, 1029 00:48:37,709 --> 00:48:40,336 'cause the doctor said, the only way that-- that your C1 and 2 1030 00:48:40,337 --> 00:48:42,589 can get twisted like this, if you get dumped on your head. 1031 00:48:42,881 --> 00:48:45,801 And I said, "Well, here's-- here's the replay of that." 1032 00:48:46,301 --> 00:48:49,012 But that-- and I told him, I said, "That was 1986." 1033 00:48:49,930 --> 00:48:51,598 And he said, "Well, this, you've been-- 1034 00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:53,558 you've been-- struggling since then." 1035 00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:57,937 And the problem in this area is that 1036 00:48:57,938 --> 00:49:01,608 players will not help themselves, 1037 00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:04,945 because from Pop Warner and Little League, 1038 00:49:05,237 --> 00:49:07,239 they're brought up in a culture of denial. 1039 00:49:10,075 --> 00:49:12,411 He had to clean out his house. 1040 00:49:13,453 --> 00:49:17,456 And I saw that he had notebook after notebook, 1041 00:49:17,457 --> 00:49:19,626 and he'd barely written in anything. 1042 00:49:19,918 --> 00:49:22,713 I think he was trying so hard to be organized, 1043 00:49:23,005 --> 00:49:25,048 because he said to me, he couldn't remember anything. 1044 00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:28,217 And so he thought he'd start out fresh, 1045 00:49:28,218 --> 00:49:29,636 and he'd have a new notebook, and he, 1046 00:49:29,928 --> 00:49:31,346 you know, would be organized. 1047 00:49:31,972 --> 00:49:34,183 Well, I looked at this and it really-- 1048 00:49:34,474 --> 00:49:36,685 it made me feel really sad, because to me, 1049 00:49:36,977 --> 00:49:40,981 this was a visible picture of what CTE does to a mind. 1050 00:49:41,273 --> 00:49:44,483 This was a night that I watched him on the news, 1051 00:49:44,484 --> 00:49:47,571 and, uh, doing this interview, and he just kind of 1052 00:49:47,863 --> 00:49:49,448 struggled for something to say. 1053 00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:52,783 And when I saw this note, I couldn't believe, 1054 00:49:52,784 --> 00:49:55,119 you know, how confused his mind was, 1055 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,123 because what he wrote at the very top half of the page, 1056 00:49:58,415 --> 00:50:00,959 he wrote almost identically the same thing 1057 00:50:01,251 --> 00:50:02,503 on the bottom half of the page. 1058 00:50:02,794 --> 00:50:05,129 You can see what his thinking, 1059 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:07,257 how confused his thinking would have been. 1060 00:50:28,195 --> 00:50:29,946 I talked to Dave Duerson, probably three months 1061 00:50:29,947 --> 00:50:31,405 before he killed himself. 1062 00:50:31,406 --> 00:50:33,533 And, uh, you know, he-- he seemed like 1063 00:50:33,534 --> 00:50:35,536 the same kind of-- same-- same old guy, 1064 00:50:35,827 --> 00:50:37,662 but he was a little-- a little more reserved, 1065 00:50:37,663 --> 00:50:39,164 a little quieter. 1066 00:50:39,456 --> 00:50:42,042 And, uh, he was explaining to me his frustrations with, 1067 00:50:42,334 --> 00:50:44,419 you know, "Can't remember where I'm at." 1068 00:50:44,711 --> 00:50:46,587 You know, "I get in the car to go pick up my kids. 1069 00:50:46,588 --> 00:50:47,881 I can't find my way home." 1070 00:50:48,423 --> 00:50:51,927 And I started having those same thoughts, the same, uh, 1071 00:50:52,219 --> 00:50:54,136 you know, I walked down the hall to-- to the kitchen. 1072 00:50:54,137 --> 00:50:56,722 And I-- I couldn't remember why the hell I went down there. 1073 00:50:56,723 --> 00:50:58,516 I'd have to go back and start again. 1074 00:50:58,517 --> 00:51:01,102 And, uh, it's-- it's very frustrating for guys that, 1075 00:51:01,103 --> 00:51:03,104 you know, we're-- we're very competitive people. 1076 00:51:03,105 --> 00:51:05,231 And at the time, I couldn't figure out how, 1077 00:51:05,232 --> 00:51:06,983 you know, it could get so bad that, 1078 00:51:06,984 --> 00:51:08,443 you know, you think about taking your own life. 1079 00:51:08,735 --> 00:51:10,445 But that-- it-- I had the same thoughts. 1080 00:51:10,737 --> 00:51:12,614 I mean, if I had a gun, I probably wouldn't be here. 1081 00:51:14,408 --> 00:51:17,410 Do you think there is a link between football 1082 00:51:17,411 --> 00:51:20,246 and degenerative brain disorders like CTE? 1083 00:51:20,247 --> 00:51:22,082 Well, certainly, uh, Dr. McKee's research shows 1084 00:51:22,374 --> 00:51:24,835 that a number of retired, uh, NFL players were diagnosed 1085 00:51:25,127 --> 00:51:27,796 with CTE. So there-- the answer to that question is-- is 1086 00:51:28,088 --> 00:51:29,339 certainly yes, but there's also 1087 00:51:29,631 --> 00:51:30,757 a number of questions that come with that. 1088 00:51:31,675 --> 00:51:33,969 - Uh, what's the answer-- - So, I-- I guess I just want-- 1089 00:51:34,261 --> 00:51:36,262 - Right. Yeah, Yeah. - I-- Is there a link? 1090 00:51:36,263 --> 00:51:37,598 - Because-- beacause we... - Sure. 1091 00:51:37,890 --> 00:51:40,517 ...we feel that, or I feel that, uh, you know, 1092 00:51:40,809 --> 00:51:43,896 that was not the unequivocal answer, 1093 00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:47,858 three days before the Super Bowl, by Dr. Mitchel Berger. 1094 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:50,359 Well, I-- I'm not going to speak for Dr. Berger. 1095 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,695 - He's-- he's-- - Well, except you're speaking 1096 00:51:51,987 --> 00:51:53,197 for the NFL, right? 1097 00:51:56,116 --> 00:51:58,368 Well, this-- uh, it's just like big tobacco. I mean, 1098 00:51:58,660 --> 00:52:01,913 they-- they said for years cigarettes don't cause cancer. 1099 00:52:01,914 --> 00:52:03,957 But, you know, obviously we know differently now. 1100 00:52:04,249 --> 00:52:05,625 And it's the same with the NFL. 1101 00:52:05,626 --> 00:52:07,502 They've-- they've known for years. 1102 00:52:07,503 --> 00:52:10,254 Uh, when this settlement, we-- we just got this settlement, 1103 00:52:10,255 --> 00:52:13,842 uh, but they had-- they didn't have to disclose 1104 00:52:14,134 --> 00:52:15,551 what they actually knew. 1105 00:52:15,552 --> 00:52:17,553 So they, you know, it's still a-- 1106 00:52:17,554 --> 00:52:19,181 it's still a big lie, but, uh, 1107 00:52:19,473 --> 00:52:20,766 at least now it's out in the open. 1108 00:52:21,058 --> 00:52:24,978 At that time, the NFL said to players, 1109 00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:28,064 one concussion has no effect on another. 1110 00:52:28,065 --> 00:52:30,149 Doesn't matter how many you get. 1111 00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:33,069 We haven't found any long-term consequences. 1112 00:52:33,070 --> 00:52:36,989 But intuitively, you had to understand 1113 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:39,326 that something had to be happening. 1114 00:52:40,118 --> 00:52:41,870 Today, we'd like to inform the public 1115 00:52:42,162 --> 00:52:44,623 of some of our findings as we continue to investigate 1116 00:52:44,915 --> 00:52:46,416 the death of Aaron Hernandez. 1117 00:52:47,376 --> 00:52:51,046 I would have to wonder, and ask what your reaction was to this, 1118 00:52:51,338 --> 00:52:53,966 considering how young Aaron Hernandez was. 1119 00:52:54,591 --> 00:52:55,801 Uh, it's very frightening. 1120 00:52:56,051 --> 00:52:58,220 Um, I was shocked by the information. 1121 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,264 Um, I was shocked by the recent study 1122 00:53:01,265 --> 00:53:05,936 of the 110, uh, former players, um, 111, 110 of them 1123 00:53:06,228 --> 00:53:10,314 having some form or advanced stages of CTE. 1124 00:53:10,315 --> 00:53:11,650 The numbers were shocking. 1125 00:53:11,942 --> 00:53:15,695 The numbers were 110 NFL players out of 111 1126 00:53:15,696 --> 00:53:18,448 uh, that were examined had, uh, 1127 00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:20,784 histologic evidence of-- of CTE. 1128 00:53:21,076 --> 00:53:22,828 The implication is that 1129 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,913 individuals who play football, particularly football 1130 00:53:25,914 --> 00:53:28,500 for long periods of time and at a high level, 1131 00:53:28,792 --> 00:53:32,336 develop CTE at a much higher rate 1132 00:53:32,337 --> 00:53:34,463 than those who do not play football. 1133 00:53:34,464 --> 00:53:36,841 You could play flag football, and that would reduce it a-- 1134 00:53:36,842 --> 00:53:38,468 a considerable amount. 1135 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,220 But there'd be an occasion a guy trips and hits his head, 1136 00:53:41,221 --> 00:53:44,725 or two guys bump into each other and-- and get a concussion, 1137 00:53:45,017 --> 00:53:48,519 but you get maybe two per game 1138 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,229 as opposed to 20. 1139 00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:53,525 And I-- I still think that there's probably 1140 00:53:53,817 --> 00:53:55,652 a lot of concussions that are not revealed. 1141 00:53:55,944 --> 00:53:58,362 There's some good in what they-- they have done 1142 00:53:58,363 --> 00:54:00,406 as far as putting the right rules in place, 1143 00:54:00,407 --> 00:54:01,992 but it's tackle football. 1144 00:54:02,284 --> 00:54:04,578 And unless you reduce the athlete 1145 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:07,622 to 150 pounds, eight flat 40, 1146 00:54:07,623 --> 00:54:10,375 as weak as can be, you're not-- 1147 00:54:10,667 --> 00:54:14,420 I mean, two guys, 300 pounds running full speed, 1148 00:54:14,421 --> 00:54:15,881 something's got to give. 1149 00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:18,634 ♪ 1150 00:54:18,926 --> 00:54:21,511 It was always confusing to us, because he would-- 1151 00:54:21,512 --> 00:54:24,263 he would say how much he missed his parents 1152 00:54:24,264 --> 00:54:27,642 and his family, but he wouldn't come over. 1153 00:54:27,643 --> 00:54:29,520 We could never figure that out. 1154 00:54:29,811 --> 00:54:32,188 And now, after knowing about the CTE, 1155 00:54:32,189 --> 00:54:34,607 we understood why he didn't come over, 1156 00:54:34,608 --> 00:54:37,401 because he would kind of expose some of the things 1157 00:54:37,402 --> 00:54:39,779 that were wrong with him, and he really, 1158 00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:42,366 bless his heart, he tried not to, uh-- 1159 00:54:43,116 --> 00:54:46,244 he tried not to let us know all that was going on, 1160 00:54:46,245 --> 00:54:48,705 because he didn't want us to worry about it. 1161 00:54:49,581 --> 00:54:52,667 The kids over here, of course, with uncle Tyler, 1162 00:54:52,668 --> 00:54:54,503 playing-- playing softball. 1163 00:54:54,795 --> 00:54:56,671 So he was-- he was pitching to 'em. 1164 00:54:56,672 --> 00:54:58,548 He was running the bases. 1165 00:54:58,549 --> 00:55:01,969 He was trying to tag 'em out, uh, sprinting after all of them, 1166 00:55:02,261 --> 00:55:06,598 and just cheering and kind of acting like his wild self. 1167 00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:09,935 So, they all had-- they all had a lot of fun with that. 1168 00:55:10,727 --> 00:55:13,480 I remember that we were watching a movie 1169 00:55:13,772 --> 00:55:16,315 in my grandma and grandpa's bed and he kept-- 1170 00:55:16,316 --> 00:55:18,527 we kept on bumping heads together. 1171 00:55:18,819 --> 00:55:21,320 And she kept saying, "oh," and he said, 1172 00:55:21,321 --> 00:55:23,114 he just, "Does that hurt?" 1173 00:55:23,115 --> 00:55:24,574 No. 1174 00:55:24,575 --> 00:55:25,951 And he said, "So why did you say 'oh?'" 1175 00:55:26,243 --> 00:55:27,536 And then she'd say it again. 1176 00:55:27,828 --> 00:55:29,829 And so they'd just sit there, bumping heads 1177 00:55:29,830 --> 00:55:31,331 and giggling about it. 1178 00:55:31,623 --> 00:55:34,710 We were laughing and we were also watching a movie 1179 00:55:35,002 --> 00:55:36,586 at the same time. 1180 00:55:36,587 --> 00:55:37,713 When we started building this house, 1181 00:55:38,005 --> 00:55:39,339 I hadn't played but about... 1182 00:55:40,591 --> 00:55:41,758 half of my career. 1183 00:55:42,843 --> 00:55:46,554 Fortunately, I was able to play longer, 1184 00:55:46,555 --> 00:55:49,223 but I also got more game balls. 1185 00:55:49,224 --> 00:55:50,475 The mo-- longer you play, 1186 00:55:50,767 --> 00:55:53,270 the more good or bad you get records. 1187 00:55:54,188 --> 00:55:56,355 So it's like, all right, every-- what-- 1188 00:55:56,356 --> 00:55:59,108 then you get to a point when you break a record, 1189 00:55:59,109 --> 00:56:01,402 the next week you're always breaking a record. 1190 00:56:01,403 --> 00:56:03,404 And I'm like, "All right, 1191 00:56:03,405 --> 00:56:05,866 we give out the game ball to Brett, 'cause this is-- 1192 00:56:06,158 --> 00:56:08,492 he just broke a record that he set last week. 1193 00:56:08,493 --> 00:56:10,453 After a while, you know, they were like, 1194 00:56:10,454 --> 00:56:12,246 I think the guy's going to play another hundred games. 1195 00:56:12,247 --> 00:56:14,750 We ain't giving out any more balls. 1196 00:56:15,042 --> 00:56:17,001 Only with the brain 1197 00:56:17,002 --> 00:56:18,754 do they not treat that immediately, 1198 00:56:19,046 --> 00:56:20,546 other than the treatment being 1199 00:56:20,547 --> 00:56:23,132 going to a room, turn the lights off, 1200 00:56:23,133 --> 00:56:25,511 don't let somebody talk as loud as I'm talking right now, 1201 00:56:25,802 --> 00:56:26,637 whisper. 1202 00:56:26,929 --> 00:56:28,597 That's-- that's not treatment. 1203 00:56:28,889 --> 00:56:30,431 I know I've got it. I don't really care 1204 00:56:30,432 --> 00:56:31,850 about, uh, how severe it is. 1205 00:56:32,142 --> 00:56:33,519 It's just-- 1206 00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:35,521 you know, I-- I know because it-- it-- that stuff 1207 00:56:35,812 --> 00:56:37,188 sat on my brain for 20 years. 1208 00:56:37,189 --> 00:56:38,607 It's-- 1209 00:56:38,899 --> 00:56:40,525 I'm lucky to have a brain, I guess, right now. 1210 00:56:40,526 --> 00:56:42,443 You still have the same mentality in the players. 1211 00:56:42,444 --> 00:56:44,446 My mentality is to run through you. 1212 00:56:44,738 --> 00:56:46,948 My mentality is to dominate you. 1213 00:56:46,949 --> 00:56:48,742 So no matter what rules you change, 1214 00:56:49,034 --> 00:56:50,618 I'm going to figure out a way around the rules 1215 00:56:50,619 --> 00:56:51,537 to get that done. 1216 00:56:51,828 --> 00:56:53,413 You know, um... 1217 00:56:54,831 --> 00:56:56,041 ...knowing what I know now, 1218 00:56:56,333 --> 00:56:58,042 probably I wouldn't have played football, 1219 00:56:58,043 --> 00:57:00,045 because my dad didn't want me playing football 1220 00:57:00,337 --> 00:57:02,673 when I told him that I would want to play football. 1221 00:57:02,965 --> 00:57:04,174 Probably wouldn't have played when I was hurt 1222 00:57:04,466 --> 00:57:07,176 as much as I did, but, uh, 1223 00:57:07,177 --> 00:57:08,803 especially the-- the head trauma. 1224 00:57:08,804 --> 00:57:11,556 Two. 1225 00:57:11,557 --> 00:57:13,851 Now, there-- didn't even see Mark behind them. 1226 00:57:15,185 --> 00:57:16,687 Well, we expected the rough stuff. 1227 00:57:16,979 --> 00:57:18,772 I mean, after a-- after a concussion... 1228 00:57:20,607 --> 00:57:22,316 I probably wouldn't have went back in the game, 1229 00:57:22,317 --> 00:57:23,819 but back then you did. 1230 00:57:24,111 --> 00:57:25,445 Would I have done it different? 1231 00:57:26,446 --> 00:57:27,531 Had I known? 1232 00:57:28,866 --> 00:57:30,533 I d-- I don't know that. 1233 00:57:30,534 --> 00:57:32,494 I considered myself a warrior. Uh, 1234 00:57:32,786 --> 00:57:35,664 You know, it meant a lot to me to play and play every play 1235 00:57:35,956 --> 00:57:38,458 and be accountable game after game, 1236 00:57:38,750 --> 00:57:40,335 and it-- it-- it got to a point 1237 00:57:40,627 --> 00:57:42,545 where it almost took on a life of itself 1238 00:57:42,546 --> 00:57:44,214 that I can't miss. 1239 00:57:44,506 --> 00:57:45,716 You know, I've come this far, I'm not gon-- 1240 00:57:46,008 --> 00:57:47,425 I'm not going to miss, 1241 00:57:47,426 --> 00:57:49,344 re--regardless of how much it hurts. 1242 00:57:49,636 --> 00:57:51,179 Well, you ca-- you know, you're in the moment. 1243 00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:54,515 You're-- you're 28, you're 33, you're 35. 1244 00:57:54,516 --> 00:57:57,226 Did one more game, or did one more hit, 1245 00:57:57,227 --> 00:57:58,979 or one more play, 1246 00:57:59,271 --> 00:58:00,731 make a tremendous difference 1247 00:58:01,023 --> 00:58:02,774 in the quality of life... 1248 00:58:03,775 --> 00:58:04,943 after football? 1249 00:58:16,705 --> 00:58:18,498 Whenever he came over here, 1250 00:58:18,790 --> 00:58:21,627 he bought something for me and my brothers, 1251 00:58:21,919 --> 00:58:25,546 and he would always come over with something for us. 1252 00:58:25,547 --> 00:58:27,466 We played in the backyard. 1253 00:58:27,758 --> 00:58:29,383 Who would win in softball? 1254 00:58:29,384 --> 00:58:31,135 Your uncle or you and-- and your brothers? 1255 00:58:31,136 --> 00:58:33,555 Um, he-- he would win. 1256 00:58:33,847 --> 00:58:35,474 Your uncle Tyler would win? 1257 00:58:36,433 --> 00:58:40,520 ♪ ...birthday to you ♪ 1258 00:58:40,521 --> 00:58:41,980 And Tyler. 1259 00:58:44,233 --> 00:58:48,695 ♪ Happy birthday to Tyler ♪ 1260 00:58:48,987 --> 00:58:53,200 Tyler was that kind of person that-- he used what he had 1261 00:58:53,617 --> 00:58:57,538 to try and benefit Oskaloosa and the kids that were in it. 1262 00:58:57,829 --> 00:59:00,165 They raised a lot of money, and then they had a little boy 1263 00:59:00,457 --> 00:59:02,501 that died of cancer here, 1264 00:59:02,793 --> 00:59:06,630 and then, um, Tyler-- they-- they raised $106,000. 1265 00:59:06,922 --> 00:59:08,799 And there was hundreds and hundreds of people that 1266 00:59:09,091 --> 00:59:12,510 came out, and-- and he sat and he signed autographs for hours 1267 00:59:12,511 --> 00:59:15,931 until every person that wanted one got an autograph, 1268 00:59:16,223 --> 00:59:17,599 and he made sure that that money went 1269 00:59:17,891 --> 00:59:20,601 to help that kid as he fought-- fought cancer. 1270 00:59:20,602 --> 00:59:23,062 So those are just that's a small illustration 1271 00:59:23,063 --> 00:59:24,606 of some of the things that he did. 1272 00:59:24,898 --> 00:59:28,443 I would say the holy grail here is getting a marker, 1273 00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:31,445 a biomarker to detect CTE in the living. 1274 00:59:31,446 --> 00:59:33,448 That will change everything. 1275 00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:36,785 Uh, first of all, we'll know the prevalence of the disease 1276 00:59:37,077 --> 00:59:39,495 in college players, and maybe high school players, 1277 00:59:39,496 --> 00:59:42,707 uh, if we have a way to diagnose it, uh, during life. 1278 00:59:42,708 --> 00:59:45,878 And importantly, if we can find a way to detect it during life, 1279 00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:49,463 not only will-- will we have a diagnosis for individuals 1280 00:59:49,464 --> 00:59:51,007 that are concerned about it, 1281 00:59:51,008 --> 00:59:53,844 uh, but we'll have a way to monitor treatments. 1282 00:59:54,136 --> 00:59:57,556 The NFL has 15 padded practices a year. 1283 00:59:57,848 --> 01:00:00,058 Now, that is since I retired. 1284 01:00:00,601 --> 01:00:02,561 When I-- when I was playing, you could, 1285 01:00:03,437 --> 01:00:04,937 you know, depending on the coach, 1286 01:00:04,938 --> 01:00:06,732 you could practice in pads all the time. 1287 01:00:07,024 --> 01:00:09,193 But yet we're putting our youth, 1288 01:00:09,985 --> 01:00:13,530 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and up 1289 01:00:14,865 --> 01:00:18,619 uh, kids in full pads, 1290 01:00:18,911 --> 01:00:20,537 and we're telling them, to go out and tackle, 1291 01:00:21,288 --> 01:00:23,748 which I don't think is a good thing, any, 1292 01:00:23,749 --> 01:00:26,919 whether it be for a game or practice. 1293 01:00:31,173 --> 01:00:35,052 I got more interested in looking at this epidemic, 1294 01:00:35,344 --> 01:00:38,055 which is concussion or mild traumatic brain injury, 1295 01:00:38,972 --> 01:00:41,016 knowing that we were going to have to create a drug 1296 01:00:41,308 --> 01:00:44,435 uh, that could be given longer to be able to handle 1297 01:00:44,436 --> 01:00:46,730 a period of time when things wax and wane. 1298 01:00:47,022 --> 01:00:50,817 And knowing that the outcome measure to predict its efficacy 1299 01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:53,278 was not going to be whether the patient survived or not. 1300 01:00:53,570 --> 01:00:55,530 Uh, you know, of course, for the most part, 1301 01:00:55,531 --> 01:00:57,406 you're going to survive concussion. 1302 01:00:57,407 --> 01:00:59,826 What I realized is we just really had not put any effort 1303 01:01:00,118 --> 01:01:03,288 into trying to find a way to treat it acutely in hopes 1304 01:01:03,580 --> 01:01:06,708 that if you could get that pathological cascade of events 1305 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,837 stopped in the short term, uh, 1306 01:01:10,128 --> 01:01:12,506 then you wouldn't end up with post-concussion syndrome. 1307 01:01:12,798 --> 01:01:14,258 In the sports world, and especially 1308 01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:16,510 in the violent sports worlds, 1309 01:01:17,469 --> 01:01:18,762 the individuals are violent. 1310 01:01:19,471 --> 01:01:21,389 And there's a pattern of violence 1311 01:01:21,390 --> 01:01:23,809 that can spill over into other parts of life. 1312 01:01:24,101 --> 01:01:26,227 There's a flag as-- 1313 01:01:26,228 --> 01:01:29,188 Whoa, whoa. 1314 01:01:29,189 --> 01:01:30,607 Well, that's... 1315 01:01:31,650 --> 01:01:33,277 - Beyond words, Joe. - Oh, gosh. 1316 01:01:33,569 --> 01:01:35,194 Especially when there is 1317 01:01:35,195 --> 01:01:37,489 something that is perceived as irritating, 1318 01:01:37,781 --> 01:01:39,449 that actually then can be addressed 1319 01:01:39,741 --> 01:01:42,578 in an impulsive way, if you-- if you will. 1320 01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:46,455 And they've developed protocols to test for concussion 1321 01:01:46,456 --> 01:01:49,876 that can also be used as a measure 1322 01:01:49,877 --> 01:01:52,588 of whether a drug for concussion is working. 1323 01:01:53,255 --> 01:01:55,174 All right, here we are at the tradition. 1324 01:01:56,550 --> 01:01:58,844 Great American we've got a lot of discovery. 1325 01:02:04,308 --> 01:02:05,517 Come in. 1326 01:02:09,897 --> 01:02:12,566 We're going to go in the clinic just here. 1327 01:02:12,858 --> 01:02:15,151 So, what will happen is in phase 1B, 1328 01:02:15,152 --> 01:02:16,361 there will be a concussed patient 1329 01:02:16,653 --> 01:02:18,197 at the hospital right down the road. 1330 01:02:18,488 --> 01:02:20,240 They will be transitioned here. 1331 01:02:20,532 --> 01:02:22,451 There will be intake done in this room. 1332 01:02:22,743 --> 01:02:25,704 They will have the drug delivered nasally in this room 1333 01:02:25,996 --> 01:02:28,414 and then they will sit in here and have blood draws 1334 01:02:28,415 --> 01:02:31,918 and testing after that drug for a period off and on, 1335 01:02:31,919 --> 01:02:33,170 once a day for five days. 1336 01:02:33,879 --> 01:02:36,506 Football has increased awareness of brain injury, 1337 01:02:36,507 --> 01:02:37,716 and it's increased awareness 1338 01:02:38,008 --> 01:02:39,509 of the consequences of brain injury 1339 01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:41,470 and that's been good for all of society. 1340 01:02:41,762 --> 01:02:44,014 I think what's important to realize is that 1341 01:02:44,306 --> 01:02:45,891 sports have risk-benefit. 1342 01:02:46,183 --> 01:02:47,851 And it's, in my opinion, 1343 01:02:48,143 --> 01:02:50,479 not prudent to ban activities 1344 01:02:50,771 --> 01:02:52,856 without understanding the full ramifications of-- 1345 01:02:53,148 --> 01:02:54,149 of such a ban. 1346 01:02:54,733 --> 01:02:57,110 We looked at 53 college players, 1347 01:02:57,402 --> 01:03:01,447 and 48 had CTE for about 91%. 1348 01:03:01,448 --> 01:03:04,200 And then we also looked at high school players, 1349 01:03:04,201 --> 01:03:06,161 and we had 21 high school players 1350 01:03:06,453 --> 01:03:07,912 that had come into the bank, 1351 01:03:07,913 --> 01:03:10,666 and three of those, uh, uh, had CTE. 1352 01:03:10,958 --> 01:03:13,668 But what that study says is that 1353 01:03:13,669 --> 01:03:15,462 this can affect amateur athletes. 1354 01:03:15,754 --> 01:03:17,421 This can affect players 1355 01:03:17,422 --> 01:03:19,550 who don't go on to play professionally. 1356 01:03:19,842 --> 01:03:22,886 And at least I-- In our experience, it's fairly common. 1357 01:03:23,637 --> 01:03:26,640 My husband said one day, he remembers 1358 01:03:26,932 --> 01:03:29,725 Tyler getting up after getting hit by this kid, 1359 01:03:29,726 --> 01:03:32,312 and Tyler had tears in his eyes. 1360 01:03:32,604 --> 01:03:34,230 And I never sa-- I never saw that, 1361 01:03:34,231 --> 01:03:35,440 and I never knew that. 1362 01:03:35,732 --> 01:03:37,776 He-- he even remembers some times 1363 01:03:38,068 --> 01:03:39,570 when Tyler was in... 1364 01:03:40,487 --> 01:03:42,531 maybe third or fourth grade football, 1365 01:03:42,823 --> 01:03:46,076 and he-- he was kind of dazed 1366 01:03:46,368 --> 01:03:48,494 coming off the field after a hit. 1367 01:03:48,495 --> 01:03:51,081 And I remember my dad 1368 01:03:51,373 --> 01:03:54,250 getting very choked up about telling him 1369 01:03:54,251 --> 01:03:56,627 that he was all right and sending him back out there, 1370 01:03:56,628 --> 01:03:58,505 because it's just, you know, 1371 01:03:58,797 --> 01:04:02,092 it's just the competitive nature of it. 1372 01:04:02,384 --> 01:04:04,218 Like, you can work through this, 1373 01:04:04,219 --> 01:04:07,471 and you think... 1374 01:04:07,472 --> 01:04:11,517 that hardcore competitive spirit, 1375 01:04:11,518 --> 01:04:13,227 like, nothing can break me, 1376 01:04:13,228 --> 01:04:15,647 is exactly what broke my brother. 1377 01:04:15,939 --> 01:04:18,108 Another thing is that people think that, you know, 1378 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,569 college athletes are catered to. 1379 01:04:20,861 --> 01:04:24,615 And, you know, maybe-- they are in some-- in some ways, 1380 01:04:24,907 --> 01:04:27,992 but I think that those people also don't realize 1381 01:04:27,993 --> 01:04:31,329 the cost to those athletes for what-- 1382 01:04:31,330 --> 01:04:34,499 For their pleasure, for their entertainment, 1383 01:04:34,958 --> 01:04:37,586 you know, that they get on a Saturday or a Sunday, 1384 01:04:37,878 --> 01:04:40,171 how much it actually costs those people. 1385 01:04:40,172 --> 01:04:42,089 I told my husband, "I said, honey..." you know, 1386 01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:44,133 because he played football, you know, I said, 1387 01:04:44,134 --> 01:04:45,761 and he loves sports, and I said, 1388 01:04:46,053 --> 01:04:47,595 "If you want to go, you go." 1389 01:04:47,596 --> 01:04:49,889 And he said, "No, I don't want to go," 1390 01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:51,058 because I don't want to keep him back, 1391 01:04:51,350 --> 01:04:53,017 just because I can't watch it anymore, 1392 01:04:53,018 --> 01:04:56,270 because I just see more than I want to see. 1393 01:04:56,271 --> 01:04:59,398 We have kids from our church their parents have asked me, 1394 01:04:59,399 --> 01:05:01,817 "What do you think, should we let our kid play? 1395 01:05:01,818 --> 01:05:03,194 You know, "Should we let him play?" 1396 01:05:03,195 --> 01:05:04,905 And like, I had one dad say, 1397 01:05:05,197 --> 01:05:06,156 "Well, my son's a senior, 1398 01:05:06,448 --> 01:05:08,157 you know, and I'm like, 1399 01:05:08,158 --> 01:05:10,035 "You know, you have to do what you have to do." 1400 01:05:10,327 --> 01:05:12,912 What's really I take from looking at all this, 1401 01:05:12,913 --> 01:05:15,540 is how fast time goes by, 1402 01:05:15,541 --> 01:05:17,209 and, uh... 1403 01:05:18,085 --> 01:05:20,419 life goes on, man, you know. 1404 01:05:20,420 --> 01:05:21,797 When-- when I coached... 1405 01:05:22,756 --> 01:05:24,674 and my two daughters, if they were here right now, 1406 01:05:24,675 --> 01:05:26,176 they'd tell you the same thing. 1407 01:05:26,468 --> 01:05:28,679 "Dad's always talking about, 'enjoy the moment...' 1408 01:05:29,847 --> 01:05:33,809 because before you know it, you look back and you go, 1409 01:05:34,101 --> 01:05:35,685 I remember us having that discussion, 1410 01:05:35,686 --> 01:05:36,812 and that was 10 years ago.'" 1411 01:05:37,104 --> 01:05:39,022 What happens when you go from birth 1412 01:05:39,314 --> 01:05:40,816 through those early 20s, 1413 01:05:41,108 --> 01:05:44,068 when brain development continues and develops, uh, 1414 01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:46,946 what happens if it's interrupted along the way? 1415 01:05:46,947 --> 01:05:49,615 So, for example, if a child really hits 1416 01:05:49,616 --> 01:05:52,077 the front-- front-- frontal regions of the brain 1417 01:05:52,369 --> 01:05:56,414 and sustains injury there at age, say, eight or nine, 1418 01:05:56,415 --> 01:05:59,500 we might not really see what's happening to that brain 1419 01:05:59,501 --> 01:06:03,337 and that brain development until the child is 16, 17, or 18. 1420 01:06:03,338 --> 01:06:06,425 If 50 percent of the moms in this country 1421 01:06:06,717 --> 01:06:11,305 understand the danger of playing football 1422 01:06:12,097 --> 01:06:16,018 and tell their teenage boys, "You can play any sport, 1423 01:06:16,894 --> 01:06:19,353 and your dad and I will back you, 1424 01:06:19,354 --> 01:06:20,856 but not tackle football." 1425 01:06:21,565 --> 01:06:23,399 It won't kill football. 1426 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,485 It will just change the socioeconomics, 1427 01:06:26,486 --> 01:06:29,948 but they need it to escape economic poverty, 1428 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,491 they'll play. 1429 01:06:31,783 --> 01:06:33,827 The state has limited the amount of time 1430 01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:37,122 that you can have full contact and teach how to tackle, 1431 01:06:37,414 --> 01:06:40,875 uh, which in turn, you know, turns it around. 1432 01:06:40,876 --> 01:06:42,252 Go, go, go! 1433 01:06:42,544 --> 01:06:44,630 They sent this to you guys? 1434 01:06:44,922 --> 01:06:47,048 They sent it to the high school. 1435 01:06:47,049 --> 01:06:48,549 So, like, it's like-- 1436 01:06:48,550 --> 01:06:50,051 it's called the High School Honor Roll, 1437 01:06:50,052 --> 01:06:53,846 and so they did this at the fifth year, uh... 1438 01:06:53,847 --> 01:06:55,556 and they sent a football, a gold football, 1439 01:06:55,557 --> 01:06:58,060 to every-- every high school that had a-- 1440 01:06:59,311 --> 01:07:03,273 a player play in any Super Bowl for the last 50 years. 1441 01:07:07,945 --> 01:07:11,156 You see a lot of guys retiring early, young guys. 1442 01:07:11,448 --> 01:07:13,115 Not even at the peak of their career, 1443 01:07:13,116 --> 01:07:15,159 they haven't even gotten to that point, retiring. 1444 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,496 We're looking at a dangerous full contact sport 1445 01:07:17,788 --> 01:07:20,039 where too many players play too long 1446 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,416 and therefore suffer physical consequences, 1447 01:07:22,417 --> 01:07:24,795 including especially, importantly, CTE. 1448 01:07:25,087 --> 01:07:27,046 There's an enormous backlash against that. 1449 01:07:27,047 --> 01:07:29,298 That, I believe, is a bigger threat to the game 1450 01:07:29,299 --> 01:07:31,968 than anything in terms of marginalizing the game. 1451 01:07:31,969 --> 01:07:33,178 But football's here to stay. 1452 01:07:33,887 --> 01:07:35,388 I love watching it. 1453 01:07:35,389 --> 01:07:37,849 At what age do you start playing tackle football? 1454 01:07:37,850 --> 01:07:39,517 I wouldn't let kids put helmets on 1455 01:07:39,518 --> 01:07:41,144 until they were juniors in high school. 1456 01:07:41,436 --> 01:07:43,438 They should stop playing football as a junior. 1457 01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:45,439 There's no reason 1458 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,484 whatsoever for anybody to have any kind of contact, 1459 01:07:47,776 --> 01:07:49,027 in my opinion, before the age of 12. 1460 01:07:49,319 --> 01:07:50,946 My son is eight. He plays football. 1461 01:07:51,238 --> 01:07:52,698 He plays tackle as well. 1462 01:07:52,948 --> 01:07:55,032 Uh, the only reason he plays is because I'm the coach. 1463 01:07:55,033 --> 01:07:58,619 There's nobody that can coach my son better than me. 1464 01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:01,330 I think I would come down on the side of saying, 1465 01:08:01,331 --> 01:08:04,542 we shouldn't have sports in this society 1466 01:08:04,543 --> 01:08:07,421 that we know injure kids' brains. 1467 01:08:07,713 --> 01:08:11,508 If everyone plays flag football until you're 17, 1468 01:08:12,217 --> 01:08:15,219 then during that time, you can teach 1469 01:08:15,220 --> 01:08:18,015 tackling fundamentals without tackling. 1470 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,518 I really don't see any reason why someone would need to play 1471 01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:24,437 tackle football until they're in high school. 1472 01:08:24,438 --> 01:08:27,524 I have two teenage sons. 1473 01:08:27,816 --> 01:08:32,196 Both of them had heard me talk about this many times. 1474 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,406 And both of them played. 1475 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,200 You know, I think there's a risk at any age, 1476 01:08:37,201 --> 01:08:39,244 but at least when you're, uh, old enough 1477 01:08:39,536 --> 01:08:41,454 to make a decision for yourself, 1478 01:08:41,455 --> 01:08:43,624 I think that's when you should start playing tackle football. 1479 01:08:43,916 --> 01:08:45,459 So maybe that's 18. 1480 01:08:45,751 --> 01:08:48,503 You know, I see sports can be a way out 1481 01:08:48,504 --> 01:08:50,254 from a tough situation, 1482 01:08:50,255 --> 01:08:52,256 but you can still do it a better way. 1483 01:08:52,257 --> 01:08:54,426 You know, we like to tell people with football, 1484 01:08:54,718 --> 01:08:56,011 no one's getting recruited off 1485 01:08:56,303 --> 01:08:58,388 of their fifth grade film, right? 1486 01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:59,973 You can still have a great football career 1487 01:09:00,224 --> 01:09:02,183 waiting until high school for the tackle part. 1488 01:09:02,184 --> 01:09:04,602 Don't play tackle football too young. 1489 01:09:04,603 --> 01:09:06,437 There's a sort of an inflection point 1490 01:09:06,438 --> 01:09:08,398 that if you play before 12, and you get hit in the head 1491 01:09:08,690 --> 01:09:09,858 while your brain's still developing, 1492 01:09:10,150 --> 01:09:11,401 you're worse off in the long run. 1493 01:09:11,693 --> 01:09:13,402 You have a greater risk of having symptoms 1494 01:09:13,403 --> 01:09:15,739 or a greater risk of, uh, having earlier symptoms 1495 01:09:16,031 --> 01:09:17,491 related to CTE or brain damage. 1496 01:09:17,783 --> 01:09:20,910 I just think that you pass a-- a law that says 1497 01:09:20,911 --> 01:09:23,496 no tackling until the age of 17. 1498 01:09:23,497 --> 01:09:26,165 If you don't want to give a cell phone 1499 01:09:26,166 --> 01:09:29,294 to a-- to a 10 or 12-year-old 1500 01:09:29,586 --> 01:09:32,172 because their skull is not fully developed, 1501 01:09:32,589 --> 01:09:35,759 then why are we putting a football helmet... 1502 01:09:36,844 --> 01:09:38,303 on a 10 or 12-year-old? 1503 01:09:38,929 --> 01:09:41,223 I have a 12-year-old son, 1504 01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:44,559 and I don't want him playing football, 1505 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,563 but his mom insists that he plays football. 1506 01:09:48,230 --> 01:09:50,064 He's had two concussions already, 1507 01:09:50,065 --> 01:09:52,192 and his mom still insists that he plays. 1508 01:09:53,443 --> 01:09:54,570 Go figure. 1509 01:09:55,445 --> 01:09:57,113 All the work that I've done with these doctors 1510 01:09:57,114 --> 01:09:58,657 the past couple of years, 1511 01:09:58,949 --> 01:10:00,950 and-- and what they've told me about the head trauma, 1512 01:10:00,951 --> 01:10:04,204 he said there's probably 90% of kids shouldn't be playing 1513 01:10:04,496 --> 01:10:05,872 because their necks and their heads 1514 01:10:05,873 --> 01:10:07,541 are just not strong enough. 1515 01:10:08,083 --> 01:10:10,127 Like, you've probably never heard of Pat Dye. 1516 01:10:11,879 --> 01:10:13,213 Legendary coach. 1517 01:10:13,505 --> 01:10:15,464 He's-- he's what Bear Bryant is to Alabama, 1518 01:10:15,465 --> 01:10:16,758 he is to Auburn. 1519 01:10:17,134 --> 01:10:19,928 He actually coached under, uh, 1520 01:10:20,387 --> 01:10:22,764 under and was really his mentor, Bear Bryant. 1521 01:10:23,932 --> 01:10:26,267 We go stay at Pat Dye's house every year. 1522 01:10:26,268 --> 01:10:28,187 We do a bike ride at Bo Bikes Bama 1523 01:10:28,478 --> 01:10:30,731 just outside of Auburn, uh... 1524 01:10:31,607 --> 01:10:34,942 and he shows me around his place. 1525 01:10:34,943 --> 01:10:39,238 And, you know, Coach Dye is 78 years old, 1526 01:10:39,239 --> 01:10:40,782 but he's still sharp as a tack. 1527 01:10:41,074 --> 01:10:43,576 He goes, he says, "All right, this is y'all's room. 1528 01:10:43,577 --> 01:10:46,704 This is our kitchen." 1529 01:10:46,705 --> 01:10:49,290 We kind of hang out in the living room right here. 1530 01:10:49,291 --> 01:10:52,127 He says, "Now, the upstairs bedroom is to go up here," 1531 01:10:52,419 --> 01:10:55,588 and he said, "No, that room here 1532 01:10:55,589 --> 01:10:56,965 really don't mean a hell of a lot. 1533 01:10:57,257 --> 01:10:59,509 It's got my memorabilia in it." 1534 01:10:59,510 --> 01:11:00,886 He said, "I'm 78 years old. 1535 01:11:01,178 --> 01:11:02,179 Ain't none of it... 1536 01:11:03,347 --> 01:11:05,598 means a hell of a being," he said. 1537 01:11:05,599 --> 01:11:09,018 I'm still thankful in many ways 1538 01:11:09,019 --> 01:11:11,687 that Tyler playing football brought us together 1539 01:11:11,688 --> 01:11:13,524 so many times. We went to-- 1540 01:11:13,815 --> 01:11:16,526 I-- Josh was away, but the rest of us 1541 01:11:16,527 --> 01:11:20,029 went to most of the games, all of the games together, 1542 01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:22,783 and Josh came back for as many as he could. 1543 01:11:23,075 --> 01:11:24,451 So, you know, we probably 1544 01:11:24,743 --> 01:11:27,537 would not have-- have enjoyed that-- 1545 01:11:27,538 --> 01:11:29,413 that time together. 1546 01:11:29,414 --> 01:11:31,667 I just couldn't even bring myself to watch it 1547 01:11:31,959 --> 01:11:34,377 because it wouldn't ever be what it once was. 1548 01:11:34,378 --> 01:11:36,964 It just flatlined for me. 1549 01:11:38,715 --> 01:11:40,467 You know, I know there's a lot of guys out there 1550 01:11:40,759 --> 01:11:45,429 that would still play football, even knowing all the facts... 1551 01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:47,975 but I'd like him to make them all aware of it 1552 01:11:48,267 --> 01:11:49,560 when they come in as a rookie. 1553 01:11:50,269 --> 01:11:51,937 And let them choose. 1554 01:11:52,396 --> 01:11:54,273 Sometimes, it's good to talk about it. 1555 01:11:55,774 --> 01:11:56,984 You know, it's not always good, 1556 01:11:57,276 --> 01:11:59,193 and there's times when I get to a place 1557 01:11:59,194 --> 01:12:01,487 where I have to say, "Lord, I can't go there. 1558 01:12:01,488 --> 01:12:05,783 You know, I can't think about that. 1559 01:12:05,784 --> 01:12:08,662 And I guess there's other times that I just feel like 1560 01:12:09,204 --> 01:12:11,581 I don't want other people to have to go through this. 1561 01:12:11,582 --> 01:12:13,457 I want to help the cause. 1562 01:12:13,458 --> 01:12:16,420 I want the awareness to be out there, 1563 01:12:16,879 --> 01:12:18,547 and I feel like I'd be honoring Tyler 1564 01:12:18,839 --> 01:12:20,590 because he'd like to help people. 1565 01:12:20,591 --> 01:12:23,385 You know, one of the things that really hurts me 1566 01:12:23,969 --> 01:12:26,597 is when I look at Tyler's baby pictures 1567 01:12:26,889 --> 01:12:28,265 and him as a little boy. 1568 01:12:30,184 --> 01:12:32,143 You know, you think of an NFL player, 1569 01:12:32,144 --> 01:12:34,021 you think there's some big tough guy, 1570 01:12:34,354 --> 01:12:35,981 but this is somebody's child. 1571 01:12:36,273 --> 01:12:37,858 This is a little boy 1572 01:12:38,609 --> 01:12:40,527 that was blessed with that talent. 1573 01:12:42,696 --> 01:12:46,032 It's just hard to see-- see that 1574 01:12:46,033 --> 01:12:49,493 and think of what could have been. 1575 01:12:49,494 --> 01:12:51,705 You could have had grandchildren. 1576 01:12:51,997 --> 01:12:54,957 You know, we were planning on more grandchildren. 1577 01:12:54,958 --> 01:12:57,586 Tyler helped me put it-- put together a crib 1578 01:12:57,878 --> 01:13:01,881 that I never bought a new one for any of my own children, 1579 01:13:01,882 --> 01:13:04,760 but when the grandkids came along, I bought a new one, 1580 01:13:05,052 --> 01:13:06,929 and Tyler helped me put it together 1581 01:13:07,554 --> 01:13:10,848 and totally planned on having more grandchildren 1582 01:13:10,849 --> 01:13:12,768 and a future, you know, for Tyler. 1583 01:13:14,102 --> 01:13:16,021 But it wasn't in the plan, 1584 01:13:16,563 --> 01:13:20,399 and so God's ways are... 1585 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,695 Are different than our ways and I accept that. 1586 01:13:25,614 --> 01:13:27,616 The story of Tyler Sash 1587 01:13:27,908 --> 01:13:31,911 in some ways revealing of what this CTE is about. 1588 01:13:31,912 --> 01:13:33,413 Obviously, in the prime of his, 1589 01:13:33,705 --> 01:13:36,124 I say career, but also in his life, 1590 01:13:36,416 --> 01:13:38,627 probably the most healthy he would ever be, 1591 01:13:39,169 --> 01:13:45,133 uh, by all accounts was a-- was a model citizen. 1592 01:13:45,717 --> 01:13:49,888 I think good things will come from Tyler's story. 1593 01:13:53,183 --> 01:13:55,268 Former Hawkeye football star, Tyler Sash, 1594 01:13:55,269 --> 01:13:57,145 found dead in his Oskaloosa home in September. 1595 01:13:57,437 --> 01:13:59,939 Diagnosed Tyler with CTE. 1596 01:13:59,940 --> 01:14:01,024 It's a degenerative brain disease caused 1597 01:14:01,316 --> 01:14:02,568 by repeated trauma. 1598 01:14:02,860 --> 01:14:04,695 It's rarely seen in someone Sash's age. 1599 01:14:07,406 --> 01:14:09,991 The shock of the death of Tyler Sash, 1600 01:14:09,992 --> 01:14:11,492 I mean, that, I haven't seen Tyler 1601 01:14:11,493 --> 01:14:12,703 in a couple of years. 1602 01:14:12,995 --> 01:14:14,454 I didn't see that coming, obviously. 1603 01:14:14,746 --> 01:14:17,582 Our condolences go out to his family and his friends 1604 01:14:17,583 --> 01:14:19,585 and all those that cared for him. 1605 01:14:19,877 --> 01:14:21,794 He was an outstanding teammate now. 1606 01:14:21,795 --> 01:14:24,589 There's the-- When he was here, during the time he was here, 1607 01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:27,593 the players really enjoyed Tyler Sash. 1608 01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:36,852 We traveled back here for Labor Day weekend in 2015, 1609 01:14:37,144 --> 01:14:38,561 came on a Friday, 1610 01:14:38,562 --> 01:14:40,479 and my husband didn't come with us 1611 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,983 because he had a-- a bachelor party, 1612 01:14:43,275 --> 01:14:44,568 and they were in Ames. 1613 01:14:44,818 --> 01:14:47,153 And so, I brought the kids, and Friday night, 1614 01:14:47,154 --> 01:14:49,488 Tyler came over with his girlfriend and Haelyn, 1615 01:14:49,489 --> 01:14:51,116 Kids all played together. 1616 01:14:51,408 --> 01:14:53,201 And their favorite thing to do is-- 1617 01:14:53,202 --> 01:14:56,204 is slide down the stairs here at Grandma and Grandpa's, 1618 01:14:56,205 --> 01:14:58,999 or have a dance party, dance competition. 1619 01:14:59,291 --> 01:15:01,292 Tyler would play some crazy music 1620 01:15:01,293 --> 01:15:04,171 and make them each take a turn dancing those. 1621 01:15:04,463 --> 01:15:05,964 That was pretty fun for them. 1622 01:15:07,174 --> 01:15:08,800 There was an Iowa game, 1623 01:15:09,092 --> 01:15:11,469 my brother had just moved in to a house there in Ottumwa, 1624 01:15:11,470 --> 01:15:13,764 so we all traveled down to Ottumwa 1625 01:15:14,056 --> 01:15:16,891 and watched the game there with Tyler. 1626 01:15:16,892 --> 01:15:20,686 And Tyler was very confused that day. 1627 01:15:20,687 --> 01:15:23,439 He multiple times asked me, 1628 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:25,358 I take AdvoCare Spark, 1629 01:15:25,359 --> 01:15:29,153 and he multiple times asked me if he could have a Spark. 1630 01:15:29,154 --> 01:15:31,281 And I was like, "You just had one." 1631 01:15:31,573 --> 01:15:34,034 And I said, "You can have another one, I don't care." 1632 01:15:34,326 --> 01:15:37,913 He'd make another Spark, and then he would say, 1633 01:15:38,413 --> 01:15:40,123 "Hey, anybody know where my drink is?" 1634 01:15:40,415 --> 01:15:43,293 And it was probably five times 1635 01:15:43,585 --> 01:15:46,087 that he-- he would ask where his drink went. 1636 01:15:46,088 --> 01:15:47,673 I'm like, "It's right there on the counter, 1637 01:15:47,965 --> 01:15:49,423 right where you left it." 1638 01:15:49,424 --> 01:15:50,801 He went and played with the kids there. 1639 01:15:51,093 --> 01:15:54,679 We watched the game, and I know Tyler fell asleep 1640 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,559 uh, during that game, which wasn't like him at all. 1641 01:15:58,851 --> 01:16:02,563 And he kept saying that he-- he had allergies like my mom, 1642 01:16:02,855 --> 01:16:06,649 and he kept saying that his head hurt. 1643 01:16:06,650 --> 01:16:08,569 Well, Tyler came over Sunday, 1644 01:16:08,861 --> 01:16:10,486 and he was playing out in the backyard 1645 01:16:10,487 --> 01:16:12,488 with them all, you know, all day. 1646 01:16:12,489 --> 01:16:13,824 It was really a hot day. 1647 01:16:14,491 --> 01:16:18,077 And he, you know, just was sprinting up and down the yard 1648 01:16:18,078 --> 01:16:19,620 and throwing balls, and they were just doing 1649 01:16:19,621 --> 01:16:21,081 all kinds of fun things, 1650 01:16:21,373 --> 01:16:23,165 and they were laughing and having fun. 1651 01:16:23,166 --> 01:16:25,293 And the kids all played, and that's when they had 1652 01:16:25,294 --> 01:16:26,837 the softball game here in the back. 1653 01:16:27,129 --> 01:16:30,298 And-- and we all just hung out as a family, 1654 01:16:30,299 --> 01:16:35,011 and he seemed better on Sunday than what he was on Saturday. 1655 01:16:35,012 --> 01:16:37,472 Grandson was in the house sleeping, 1656 01:16:37,764 --> 01:16:38,974 and I came in to check on him. 1657 01:16:39,266 --> 01:16:41,392 And meanwhile, Tyler had come in. 1658 01:16:41,393 --> 01:16:42,603 And, uh... 1659 01:16:43,562 --> 01:16:47,441 But then, right before he left here, on-- 1660 01:16:47,733 --> 01:16:51,778 on that Sunday night, he-- It was the strangest thing. 1661 01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:56,408 He went to get a drink at the sink in the kitchen. 1662 01:16:57,659 --> 01:17:01,455 And after he took his drink, he-- he dropped to his knee... 1663 01:17:01,747 --> 01:17:04,749 ...and really just, like, grabbed his head 1664 01:17:04,750 --> 01:17:08,754 and sat here for about 15, 20 seconds. 1665 01:17:09,379 --> 01:17:10,881 And I was looking at him, and I said, 1666 01:17:11,173 --> 01:17:14,133 "Ty," I said, "what's wrong, honey?" 1667 01:17:14,134 --> 01:17:16,803 And he said, "I just feel like I could die." 1668 01:17:17,095 --> 01:17:18,513 And we're like, "What is wrong?" 1669 01:17:18,514 --> 01:17:21,808 And he said, "My head hurts so bad." 1670 01:17:23,602 --> 01:17:25,854 And that's haunted me ever since then, 1671 01:17:26,146 --> 01:17:27,105 because I thought, 1672 01:17:27,940 --> 01:17:30,484 what could have been going on with him 1673 01:17:30,776 --> 01:17:32,194 to make that statement? 1674 01:17:32,778 --> 01:17:34,612 And then he just stood up... 1675 01:17:34,613 --> 01:17:36,322 ...ran out the backyard, 1676 01:17:36,323 --> 01:17:38,407 and started playing with the kids all over again. 1677 01:17:38,408 --> 01:17:40,159 And so, I-- 1678 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,663 You know, I-- I didn't think much of it at the time. 1679 01:17:43,330 --> 01:17:46,416 Later that day, Tyler left with his girlfriend 1680 01:17:46,708 --> 01:17:48,502 and her little girl, and he said 1681 01:17:48,794 --> 01:17:50,420 they were going to go get something to eat. 1682 01:17:50,963 --> 01:17:53,257 He called me about, 1683 01:17:53,549 --> 01:17:55,591 I think it was quarter to nine that night. 1684 01:17:55,592 --> 01:17:57,761 And he said, "Mom, did I leave my billfold there? 1685 01:17:58,053 --> 01:17:59,221 I can't find it." 1686 01:17:59,930 --> 01:18:01,765 And I said, "I'll look." 1687 01:18:02,057 --> 01:18:04,560 And so, I looked around the house, and I, uh-- 1688 01:18:05,477 --> 01:18:07,187 I couldn't find it and I said, 1689 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,397 "No, I don't see it here anywhere, honey. 1690 01:18:09,398 --> 01:18:11,441 And he said, "I was just going to buy a couple of Gatorades." 1691 01:18:11,733 --> 01:18:13,067 And so she gave him... 1692 01:18:13,068 --> 01:18:14,486 ...a $20 bill, 1693 01:18:14,778 --> 01:18:16,071 and I really hardly talked with him, 1694 01:18:16,363 --> 01:18:17,697 because he'd been here all day. 1695 01:18:17,698 --> 01:18:19,199 And I was helping the grandkids, 1696 01:18:19,491 --> 01:18:22,578 getting them ready to get to bed, so he left. 1697 01:18:26,915 --> 01:18:30,210 Monday would have been the day I left town, 1698 01:18:30,502 --> 01:18:32,713 because my kids had school on Tuesday. 1699 01:18:33,005 --> 01:18:34,756 And so, I took them back on Monday. 1700 01:18:35,048 --> 01:18:36,716 And I had texted him when I left town, 1701 01:18:36,717 --> 01:18:37,926 but I thought he was busy, 1702 01:18:38,218 --> 01:18:40,011 because he was supposed to be at a party 1703 01:18:40,012 --> 01:18:41,221 with his girlfriend. 1704 01:18:41,513 --> 01:18:42,972 And so, I didn't think anything of it 1705 01:18:42,973 --> 01:18:44,558 that he didn't message me back. 1706 01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:46,310 Took the dog for a walk, 1707 01:18:46,602 --> 01:18:48,144 and I went over to his house, and I opened the door, 1708 01:18:48,145 --> 01:18:50,105 and I saw him sleeping on the couch. 1709 01:18:51,106 --> 01:18:53,692 And, uh, so the dog came running to the door, 1710 01:18:53,984 --> 01:18:55,985 and I took her, and we went for an hour walk. 1711 01:18:55,986 --> 01:18:58,739 And I came back, and he was still asleep. 1712 01:18:59,031 --> 01:19:00,240 And I was really surprised, 1713 01:19:00,532 --> 01:19:02,867 because he did not sleep very well. 1714 01:19:02,868 --> 01:19:05,369 So, I kind of snuck in and tiptoed 1715 01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:06,996 really pretty close to him 1716 01:19:06,997 --> 01:19:08,206 that I could have reached out and touched him, 1717 01:19:08,207 --> 01:19:09,416 and I didn't look at him. 1718 01:19:12,794 --> 01:19:15,756 I hadn't heard from him, uh, yet that morning. 1719 01:19:16,048 --> 01:19:18,424 It was still 8:30, nine o'clock. 1720 01:19:18,425 --> 01:19:20,259 And then I hadn't heard from him the day before, 1721 01:19:20,260 --> 01:19:22,887 which is when I assumed he was catching up on his sleep. 1722 01:19:22,888 --> 01:19:26,975 I got a text message from his girlfriend saying, 1723 01:19:29,228 --> 01:19:30,395 She said... 1724 01:19:40,113 --> 01:19:42,491 And I asked her, you know, if she saw him before she left, 1725 01:19:42,783 --> 01:19:44,408 and she hadn't. 1726 01:19:44,409 --> 01:19:46,160 And so she was going to get a hold of her mom, 1727 01:19:46,161 --> 01:19:48,288 and that's when we kind of put everything together. 1728 01:19:48,580 --> 01:19:53,126 My daughter had called and said that, uh... 1729 01:19:54,044 --> 01:19:55,921 his girlfriend had called her and said 1730 01:19:56,213 --> 01:19:57,797 she had text Tyler a few times, 1731 01:19:57,798 --> 01:19:59,257 and she didn't hear back from him. 1732 01:19:59,258 --> 01:20:00,467 She was concerned. 1733 01:20:01,385 --> 01:20:03,553 She said, "Are you going over there to get Bella?" 1734 01:20:03,554 --> 01:20:04,971 And I said, "Yeah, I'll be over there 1735 01:20:04,972 --> 01:20:06,640 probably in a half an hour. 1736 01:20:06,932 --> 01:20:10,435 So I felt a little sense of relief, and then I-- 1737 01:20:10,727 --> 01:20:13,062 Then that fear started creeping back up in me, 1738 01:20:13,063 --> 01:20:14,481 and I said-- I said, 1739 01:20:14,773 --> 01:20:16,567 "Just go make sure," because I thought, 1740 01:20:16,859 --> 01:20:18,568 you know, she didn't talk to him. 1741 01:20:18,569 --> 01:20:22,029 So, I went over, and I, uh, I opened the door. 1742 01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:23,948 The dog was sitting in the chair, 1743 01:20:23,949 --> 01:20:24,992 scared to death. 1744 01:20:25,659 --> 01:20:28,202 I opened the door, and she bolted right for me. 1745 01:20:28,203 --> 01:20:30,038 I took her out and put her in my car. 1746 01:20:30,664 --> 01:20:33,708 I could see him. 1747 01:20:33,709 --> 01:20:36,545 And so, I went back in after I got the dog, and I-- 1748 01:20:37,629 --> 01:20:40,006 It was like somebody else was inside my body 1749 01:20:40,007 --> 01:20:44,051 walking up to my son, looking at him. 1750 01:20:44,052 --> 01:20:45,720 Because I knew it would be the last time 1751 01:20:45,721 --> 01:20:47,222 I'd ever see his face. 1752 01:20:48,724 --> 01:20:50,517 And it wasn't a good picture. 1753 01:20:53,061 --> 01:20:54,313 And I just-- 1754 01:20:55,939 --> 01:20:58,357 I don't know, I was hoping to get some kind of peace 1755 01:20:58,358 --> 01:20:59,735 by seeing him... 1756 01:21:01,820 --> 01:21:04,031 but I-- but I didn't get that. 1757 01:21:04,823 --> 01:21:08,117 His sister, Megan, called me and was crying hysterically, 1758 01:21:08,118 --> 01:21:10,494 and I couldn't really understand what she was saying. 1759 01:21:10,495 --> 01:21:12,247 All I could make out was she kept saying, 1760 01:21:12,539 --> 01:21:14,333 "He's gone, he's gone, he's gone, Heather." 1761 01:21:15,334 --> 01:21:18,795 And then I started crying, and I picked up my stuff... 1762 01:21:22,799 --> 01:21:23,967 and... 1763 01:21:25,052 --> 01:21:27,221 went out the door and went over to the house. 1764 01:21:28,722 --> 01:21:30,015 I just stayed outside 1765 01:21:30,307 --> 01:21:32,308 because the police were just getting there, 1766 01:21:32,309 --> 01:21:34,685 and then eventually his mom came out 1767 01:21:34,686 --> 01:21:35,896 and said he was gone. 1768 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,196 ♪ In a sea of stars ♪ 1769 01:21:47,824 --> 01:21:51,411 ♪ I can find you shining ♪ 1770 01:21:55,249 --> 01:21:59,586 ♪ Reflections on the water ♪ 1771 01:22:01,797 --> 01:22:07,052 ♪ For a million miles ♪ 1772 01:22:10,222 --> 01:22:13,684 ♪ Just don't say goodbye ♪ 1773 01:22:17,646 --> 01:22:22,234 ♪ The air is feeling thin ♪ 1774 01:22:25,404 --> 01:22:29,491 ♪ Breathe, take your time ♪ 1775 01:22:31,493 --> 01:22:36,415 ♪ And when you feel like flying ♪ 1776 01:22:38,458 --> 01:22:41,295 ♪ Glow ♪ 1777 01:22:43,130 --> 01:22:48,301 ♪ Still see it in the shadow ♪ 1778 01:22:48,302 --> 01:22:50,845 If you could have two minutes with Tyler, 1779 01:22:50,846 --> 01:22:52,181 what would you tell him? 1780 01:22:56,768 --> 01:22:59,395 Oh, that's a hard one. 1781 01:22:59,396 --> 01:23:00,480 Two minutes, huh? 1782 01:23:01,106 --> 01:23:04,567 Is this the two-minute drill? 1783 01:23:04,568 --> 01:23:10,406 Um, I guess I would tell him how sorry that I was... 1784 01:23:10,407 --> 01:23:11,992 that I didn't know... 1785 01:23:14,161 --> 01:23:16,788 ...that I didn't have the compassion for him. 1786 01:23:17,664 --> 01:23:20,542 Because I didn't understand, because as a parent, 1787 01:23:21,335 --> 01:23:23,921 I was still hard on him. 1788 01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:28,675 I didn't understand why he wasn't going to get a job, 1789 01:23:28,967 --> 01:23:32,804 even though he couldn't-- His mind was not there. 1790 01:23:33,805 --> 01:23:36,600 I just thought I needed to use tough love on him... 1791 01:23:38,977 --> 01:23:41,355 but I would've told him that I was so sorry. 1792 01:23:41,897 --> 01:23:44,775 Tyler was the type of person that, 1793 01:23:45,067 --> 01:23:48,903 especially in the last couple years of his life, 1794 01:23:48,904 --> 01:23:51,906 would just randomly text me and say, 1795 01:23:51,907 --> 01:23:53,533 "I love you, Megan. 1796 01:23:53,534 --> 01:23:55,202 I'm so proud of you for this, this, and this." 1797 01:23:55,494 --> 01:23:58,247 He just didn't leave it unsaid. 1798 01:23:58,539 --> 01:24:01,499 He-- he made sure to tell the people that he loved 1799 01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:03,502 how much he cared about them, 1800 01:24:03,794 --> 01:24:08,757 and so because he did that, it was reciprocated by-- by me, 1801 01:24:09,049 --> 01:24:12,719 and him and I had many of those heartfelt conversations. 1802 01:24:13,595 --> 01:24:17,181 I think I'd tell him I loved him, 1803 01:24:17,182 --> 01:24:19,393 and I would have done anything for him, 1804 01:24:19,977 --> 01:24:21,854 but I know he already knows that. 1805 01:24:24,690 --> 01:24:25,983 I'd tell him I love him, 1806 01:24:26,567 --> 01:24:30,987 and I'd tell him how much we care about... 1807 01:24:30,988 --> 01:24:32,030 what he stood for. 1808 01:24:33,073 --> 01:24:34,491 That's what I'd-- 1809 01:24:34,783 --> 01:24:37,703 That's what I'd do, because, you know... 1810 01:24:38,996 --> 01:24:43,124 a special person, um... 1811 01:24:43,125 --> 01:24:47,461 you know, a special-- a special family person, 1812 01:24:47,462 --> 01:24:49,630 a great player. 1813 01:24:49,631 --> 01:24:50,966 I would tell him that, 1814 01:24:51,258 --> 01:24:52,843 and it had nothing to do with football. 1815 01:24:53,468 --> 01:24:55,469 I'd tell him I love him, and I'd tell him 1816 01:24:55,470 --> 01:24:57,472 what he stood for was-- was really important. 1817 01:24:57,764 --> 01:24:59,974 I'm still kind of lost. 1818 01:24:59,975 --> 01:25:01,435 I don't really know 1819 01:25:01,935 --> 01:25:05,439 where I want to be yet or what I'm doing. 1820 01:25:07,524 --> 01:25:09,902 I just hope everyone listens and... 1821 01:25:11,028 --> 01:25:13,280 and the awareness is raised for it. 1822 01:25:13,822 --> 01:25:14,948 The facts come out. 1823 01:25:16,783 --> 01:25:17,868 Thanks. 1824 01:25:39,223 --> 01:25:40,349 Ouch. 1825 01:25:41,767 --> 01:25:43,810 - Did that hurt? - No. 1826 01:25:44,436 --> 01:25:45,771 Then why did you say "ouch?" 1827 01:25:48,106 --> 01:25:49,983 Ouch. 1828 01:25:57,991 --> 01:26:00,535 What do you miss most about your Uncle Tyler? 1829 01:26:00,536 --> 01:26:01,787 Um... 1830 01:26:09,336 --> 01:26:11,922 For people 15, 20 years down the road, 1831 01:26:12,214 --> 01:26:15,675 I'd want them to say, that kid came out every day, 1832 01:26:15,676 --> 01:26:17,218 no matter what it was. 1833 01:26:17,219 --> 01:26:19,137 He'd do it, he'd get it done, 1834 01:26:19,429 --> 01:26:20,764 and he'd work hard, 1835 01:26:21,056 --> 01:26:22,641 and he was a good role model for kids. 1836 01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:26,103 Kids looked up to him, and he was a leader. 1837 01:26:36,697 --> 01:26:39,700 Well, the good news is that my son knows Jesus, 1838 01:26:40,617 --> 01:26:44,538 and my son's going to be waiting for me on the other side, 1839 01:26:44,830 --> 01:26:46,331 and so I have that hope. 139447

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