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Tom, leading Karar.
All right, here we go. Pick it up.
Tom wins the first individual immunity.
Tom's got it.
Karar. I hit him with the machine.
Oh, my God.
And where?
He keeps one -upping me.
You know, you can only taunt me so long before I strike back at you. The
difference is Tom, he's a man. He's a man among men.
For the first time, we have all 20 of this season's survivors back together.
Great season. Going to cover as much as we can, starting with Tom.
Congratulations.
Obviously, this is your hometown.
We've got a lot of crowds. Yeah, New York.
And I've got to say, Tom, you know, well -deserved.
It was a season that there was a lot of domination.
Your tribe, Karora, dominated. You guys won 11 of 14 challenges, a survivor
record. And you won five of seven individual challenges. Also, another
So you cannot say you don't deserve this. You didn't play it well. What was
plan going in?
Because you had a very clear strategy how to get here.
Actually, the way that this played out, I owe it to a good friend of mine and my
wife, most importantly, who when I started concocting plans of the role I
play out there in Palau, and they both just slapped me around and said, you've
got to go in there and be yourself. It's a winning strategy.
I thought I was going to be able to hide underneath my gray hair. And, you know,
it didn't happen too well. So I kind of, if anything, I played a lousy strategy
game because I didn't hide well.
So it all had to play it all out. This is why you won.
Right there. That answer of saying nothing but just clearly not offending
anybody.
Obviously, the two people next to you, key. The relationship with Katie and Ian
formed at the beginning.
First night.
Very unusual to see an alliance make it that long.
And Katie, let's address the fact you took a lot of heat in that final tribal
council. You think?
Greg.
Where's Greg?
This is what I want to know. She made a good point of saying, look, I'm not the
most physically gifted, but my strategy was to find two people strong and attach
myself to them.
Why was there so much animosity?
You know, there was, and it's unfortunate because when I was on the
outside of the game, I looked at these people as characters, and I didn't take
into account the personal relationships that I had.
And I can tell you that Katie, for 33 days for me, She did entertain me. She
my friend, and she articulated her strategy very well.
I mean, I love her, and I love our friendship, and for some reason, she was
a character over there, and I lay it into her, and I feel horrible about it.
Well, and you also said something to me before the show that, as far as you were
concerned, the game wasn't over, and you wanted them to earn this vote. This
game is about being accountable for your actions, and I do believe...
in the context of the game, that you need to pay the price to keep the game
pure, and you need to put people in the hot seat. I can tell you that as soon as
I asked my question to Katie, I lost focus, I didn't know what was going on,
as soon as we cast our votes, I went over and I gave both of them a hug and a
kiss, and I said, great game.
This is what it's about. That was my last move, but my last move was that
question, but the hug and kiss is where it matters. Katie, you seem completely
surprised.
By the by the animosity towards you which surprised me Knowing what I
even a tribal council there were a few people you should have you could have
naturally assumed We're not going to like you based on what you said about
and making you new comes to mind, you know first So why were you so surprised
that there were going to be some people frustrated with you? Well, I wasn't
surprised by you know, I went in knowing I wasn't probably gonna answer her
question That's another thing while we're on it You make it all the way. You
make it all the way to day 39.
There are seven votes. It takes four to win, and you gave one up. You just gave
it up.
I didn't give it up. I mean, I knew going in. How many times did I say, I
not win against Tom. I tried to take him out. I love him, but come on.
You can't beat this guy. Was your mind made up?
It was, Jeff. It was. All right.
I thought there was an interesting thing going on between you and Greg to show
you how quickly the game can flip.
You guys both approach this with a lot of game theory. That is trying to figure
out what the other person's best move is and making your move based on that.
Greg, that was the case with you, right? You said you would sit up at night and
think about everybody and what they were going to do. I would go through the
line that we were sleeping in. Okay, what's Karen's best move right now? What
she thinking? What is she going to do?
And try to make my move subtly by assuming everyone else is playing
going to make the smart move. And your plan was to get to five and make your
move. That's right. Works well.
Tom figured it out. Well, you know what?
Tom was telling me you figured it out that based on what you knew about Greg,
why he wouldn't do that. Tell me about that.
You know, Greg really believes when you're on a plan, you stick with that
and nothing derides the cart.
And it's a good analytical thinking that makes him great in business. He finds
out what's wrong with a company and where you have to streamline it. He had
really good firm he was working for, Carora Incorporated, and he didn't want
partners unhappy. And he just said, let's go. I've got time. I've got time.
So I believed he was going to stay with it right to the five. I was told later,
no, no, no, he's coming for you.
But I believed that he would stay with it just based on the fact that he liked
the way things were going.
So to be clear, you figured out he's going to wait until five, I get him at
I was told that he was coming for me. I would have waited to five and still
played. I was going to hold to that word also and just say, all right, we'll
play to five, and then we'll start the picking off. This is complicated for me,
and I've already talked to you guys about this stuff, and now I feel like
getting played.
Karen, talking about making the best move, if you make it to this game, this
my opinion, obviously I've never played it, but if you make it to five without
any alliances.
Suddenly, you become the most valuable person on the island. There are two here
and two here and you in the middle.
What happened? How did you go home that night? Why weren't you guaranteed a spot
in the final three?
Well, I'm not sure exactly what happened because I wasn't privy to everything
that happened. But when I wouldn't give up information on the beach that Jen and
Katie and I had made an alliance, I think I kicked off time.
Tom and Ian were definitely considering, at least I thought, I could be wrong,
taking me and getting rid of Jen next.
But I think I didn't give up any information that it didn't work.
You know, I wasn't useful to them anymore.
And then Katie flip -flopped on the all -women alliance, and so I wasn't useful
there for them either. So I went home. I went packing. Ian, you're 11 hours in
to a challenge. You find yourself final three with your two allies.
And the two people you have betrayed so severely, you don't know what to do.
Yeah.
11 hours, almost, yeah, it was 11 hours.
Longest challenge we've ever had, you finally decide to step down.
Now, some will say, hmm, it's a little suspect.
Were you really processing the whole time?
Absolutely. I mean, there wasn't too much else to do, unfortunately.
I mean, Yana Bui and...
A lot had happened in the past 24 hours, and I came into the game wanting to
play from where I'm from and with the values that I came to the game with, and
realized at the 11th hour, I guess literally this time, that I hadn't been
that, and I wasn't ready to sacrifice what I was going to take back to my
and my friends back home for a million bucks. And no regrets on that?
not.
Interesting stat as we go to break on this segment.
Seven of the ten winners have been 30 years or older. The average age is 34 of
winning this game. And it brings up an interesting topic, which is maturity.
Because everybody else was playing this game too.
Maybe they were playing it better, but it seemed like you just grew up a little
bit out there.
Absolutely. I mean, the game changed my life. And I had the opportunity to play
with somebody almost three times my age.
I learned a lot from the people that I played with. On that note, up next, we
will hear from Survivor's favorite hairdresser, Colby.
Still the time one of the most popular Survivors ever, Stephanie. But first,
this season's challenges were some of the most physical ever. Take a look.
Bobby John.
Oh.
Still on.
Follow it, Bobby John.
Some big challenges and some big quips. We also had some very big revelations.
We've already talked about Ian's realization regarding integrity. Another
story this season was Kobe.
What he proved to others, what he proved to himself.
You like this impression, don't you?
Kobe does it! As a kid, I was always called the girly guy, you know, the
People would pick on me and I would just give up.
I ended up quitting school because people made fun of me.
James comes on strong out of the gate. Kobe fighting back.
But I wasn't going to let anybody make me quit this time, no matter how hard it
is.
And he's got him. James is in.
Ah,
Kobe. Was that part of the appeal? Did you come out here to try to get rid
of some demons?
I did. My demons were when I was a kid, you know, I wasn't popular in school.
So Survivor really is kind of like high school, so I wanted to be popular. You
know, I wanted to be the prom queen.
But I'm not.
And to be part of a team was definitely an appeal.
To be part of a team? A team, because I'd never been part of a team. You know,
that's why this was such a nightmare, because it started off as my childhood
nightmare with the Pickham. It was awful.
It was awful to watch that happen.
And so you end up being part of the most dominating team in the history of this
show. Yeah.
Sorry, Bobby John.
So, are you different? Did you go home and have some skeletons gone? I did that
day when they showed me crying. That day, I completely put it all to rest.
I really did. It was the best moment of my life. Wow.
Well, one of the, I know one of the favorite moments for me was a great
showdown. Kobe, the gay hairdresser.
versus James, the self -proclaimed redneck from Alabama.
Come on.
Come on. And you know what was great about that was that you beat James, and
James, you were so complimentary about it. I mean, you really were. And I have
to imagine the next day after that episode aired, when you went into work,
buddies had a couple of things to say. This is America. Am I wrong or not? This
is America, to be honest with you. I've been unemployed because I can't get
work.
Because I'm a redneck James I tell you what but folks I've been around and yeah
my old friends in the mill they you know they saw it and I tell you what I tell
them straight up that boy whooped my tail and he's 210 pounds 155 that ain't
excuse because that's pure steel from the steel mill you know and I thought
gonna whoop Kobe you know I'm thinking in my head this is a gay hairdresser
feminine I'm gonna whoop his tail I'm a steel mill worker.
Boy, he's got some tail. I'm telling you.
And, James, you know, you were a big character out there,
and I don't want to take a long time on this, but you said something interesting
to me, which was you actually changed, too. You said you don't take your kids
for granted anymore. Oh, Lord, no. It changed me.
You know, me and my family, rocky, but when I got back.
I went and did it with my kids. I went and roasted hot dogs and marshmallows.
First thing I did. And I don't take my wife for granted no more. Good.
It changed.
Another revelation this season, showgirl, was Janu.
You know,
this was more than you bargained for.
Seemed to be.
And you had some tough days.
Disappointing at challenges.
Laid around camp a lot. Even you would agree with that.
And then your worst nightmare comes true. You get thrown on an island by
yourself, and it turns into be the biggest moment of your life.
It was great. It was amazing to be there by myself. It was supposed to be Exile
Island. And it just came together for me. It was full circle.
And I learned that the appreciation that I had for family and friends and life
in general was just that. I was satisfied. And I knew going in to
And I want to say, this is something I haven't asked you, I haven't asked
anybody else who was at Tribal Council that night.
Yes or no, did I coerce you into quitting?
No, you did not.
Anybody at Tribal Council that night feel that I did? Who was there?
No. I couldn't have convinced anybody else to quit.
Because the point I'm getting at is, you know, when somebody, if you come into
this game thinking you can quit, you probably will quit. And if you come to
Tribal Council looking to quit.
you're probably going to quit. Because if I smell it, I'm going to find it.
Because every time somebody quits, there's 50 ,000 people at home going, I
wouldn't quit.
So I just want to get that out there because there's another form of quit
we're going to talk about now, which is the engineered quit.
And I'm looking at you, Jeff.
Because there's another way to get out of this game, and that is to say, vote
out. And it may not always play as a quit, but in my world, it's kind of a
And I want to hear you defend.
Why you should have left the game with a hurt ankle when you clearly could have
chopped coconuts, made fire, attended camp in a lot of different ways.
Well, I mean, first of all, I am officially Coconut Boy. I mean, anywhere
anybody that talks to me, I'm Coconut Boy. That's how it goes.
I mean, it can't get any worse than that. But for me, really, it really did
down to I knew my strength. I knew my limits. And at that point, I'd already
injured myself to the point where I knew that was it.
It wasn't going to go further. Okay, what I'm asking, Bobby John saw you. He
walks by. There's a great moment in the show when he sees you chopping coconuts.
He says, Kim is not doing anything.
Jeff is at least contributing to camp.
Bobby John, would you have left the game with an injured ankle?
You'd have had to cut my head off and carry it in a five -gallon bucket.
I wouldn't have left.
I wouldn't have left.
Sometimes you can't help it, though. When you get hurt, I mean, you're
and you just had surgery on it. So I know, I mean, he was really hurt. I'm
debating you were hurt. Don't get me wrong. I'm just wanting you to defend
I've defended this a lot, Justin.
And, you know, Ashley, on one side of you and Kim on the other, if we could
possibly make the same argument for you guys.
Ashley, would you agree with that? That in some ways you kind of had had enough
of that game.
Jeff, I completely had enough of it.
Unfortunately for me, I thought that...
I was tough, but no.
I was tough enough to laugh.
All right. And on the end, two people who never had a chance to quit, Jonathan
and Wanda, because you didn't get picked.
Jonathan, you're a more unlikely target for that. I mean, I think people look at
you. You're a strong guy. You're young. You're fit.
What happened?
I jumped out of the boat.
Then I guess swimming against that current didn't really pan out. You know,
thought I was going to swim twice as fast as the boat, get to shore, get
immunity, and just kind of all fell apart from there, I guess.
So that's the reason you didn't get picked?
I mean, honestly.
Angie, you're waving your arms.
No, I don't think that's just it. Like, I knew this question was going to come
up.
You seem like a very nice person now, but when we were out there, I think you
gave me one conversation, and I think the conversation you gave me wasn't very
nice. And I think maybe that happened to a few other people, and the fact was
you're very nice and personable, but I think when we were out there, you
weren't. I think you kind of picked and chose who you talked to, and you made a
little bit of enemies that way. It wasn't just about, because I never
it like that. Yeah, but 20 people going all in different directions right when
we get to the beach, that's kind of hard for, you know, to.
You know, form a relationship with everybody in three days.
All right, all right, all right. We're not going to play it out. But obviously,
there's a little dissension, and first impressions matter in this game.
Obviously, Wanda, you were the other one on that end of the stick.
And your attitude seems to be you're okay with it. I mean, you went off
Was that true, or were you hurt?
It was devastating, absolutely devastating. But they called out, sing
song, Wanda.
There was some pleasure in it, even though they had a couple of curmudgeons
managed to complain about it. And so they asked for a song I never let my
down.
Okay, I got to ask, Wanda. I have to ask.
I'm guessing you prepared a song. You betcha.
I hope it's short. Go for it.
We were stranded on Palauan shores with coconuts and rats.
We survived a...
Okay.
an athlete my entire life. I'm just not a good loser.
Jeff does it again.
If you see anything a man can do, I'll tell you that.
Oh, wow.
Good old -fashioned cat fight.
Jeff not budging and pushes Jen off easily.
This is the scary thing and the hard thing that I'll ever do.
But I'll never give up. I'm not a quitter.
One. Open up. Big one, at least.
Ever in that situation before, one tribe member left, spending the night out on
your own.
Did you know going in that you had that in you? I mean, you're an athlete.
Obviously, you've been in a lot of competition. But that was severe
circumstances.
Yeah, yeah, it was.
I knew I'd be all right in the challenges to a certain extent. I didn't
I would fare with no food. And then losing every single immunity challenge
like, really not your fault.
That was really, really tough.
So, no, I mean, I didn't know. I had no idea.
going to be able to do that well.
Was there a defining moment when you think back on your time out there where
all crystallized and you knew you were all right?
It was probably that night when I was by myself.
I can't get any worse than this. I'm the last one left.
I'm here by myself. I don't know what's going to happen. Then I got to doing
career. Then I was like, forget it. I can do anything now.
What's been the reaction on the street from people? Because you're one of the
most popular women, certainly, to ever play Survivor.
You know, I'm so grateful that everybody's been so supportive. Thank
everybody.
Everywhere I go, people, you know, come up to me and they say, you know, you're
my daughter's hero or you're my hero. And it's just a nice thing to hear, I
guess. I get a lot of letters, a lot of really nice letters from high schools
and women and even men. So I don't know. I don't know.
Yeah, go figure.
Bobby John, your partner, for some reason, even though watching the Yulong
dwindle, It was kind of fun toward the end because you'd never seen it happen.
I'll admit.
When it got to Bobby, John, and Steph, it just seemed different. It seemed like
it really was this tribe of two, and suddenly we certainly realized, wow,
has never happened before. Bobby, John, you never got voted out. I didn't get
voted out. You only are out of this game because we had a tiebreaker. Somebody
had to go home.
That's right. I got beat. I didn't get voted off.
It still feels good, but you still lose.
I wear my winning hat like a man. I wear my losing hat like a man.
So no sour grapes? No.
Hey,
where does your work ethic come from? Because if Stephanie's one of the most
popular women, it's fair to say you are one of the hardest working people that
has ever been out there. You never slacked off. And that doesn't seem like
strategy. That just seems like Bobby John.
That's me. I would have to definitely give credit to my family and the people
Troy, Alabama.
That's all they know how to do is work.
And when you go there, you work. And I was brought up doing it.
One other question I have for you. You got to experience something that was so
spectacular, Jellyfish Lake.
Did it last? Did it stay with you? Is that a moment you can go back on and
remember? If you go back in the Rolodex in your brain, that's one I go back to
is Jellyfish Lake. Because for me, that was peace.
Not many times people can go and find peace like that. And for me, it was
just complete peace.
Jolanda.
first person to win immunity and be the first person voted out.
And you're obviously strong and a competitor. What happened out there?
I think a lot of things happened. The way that we had to choose tribes sort of
threw off the dynamics because I thought I'd get to pick a team, but I didn't. I
got to pick one, and I ended up being on a team full of young adults.
And anyone who's a parent knows that when they started turning 18, 21, 25,
You want to prove to the world that you know everything, and they didn't want
leadership, and they didn't want to be a team, and we were duplicating effort.
And I knew when I got voted off that we were going to self -extinct, and I knew
it. I wanted them to do better, but, I mean, when I go back to when I was those
ages, I didn't listen either.
Angie, why is...
Is she right? Why was Yulong so unsuccessful?
She is right about not listening.
Nobody, I mean, we'd go to challenges and we weren't listening. We'd talk to
each other and we weren't listening. And it's one of those things, like, you see
the other tribe getting together so well because they listen more to one
another. It's kind of sad. Something about our team is we totally, the young
people did, underestimated Karora. We have great ideas. They're old. They
do anything. And I kept saying, dude, we're not old. We think.
We can't run as fast. We can't jump as high. But we think. And then we make a
plan. And it was like, no, we got all the muscles.
We're young. Oh, I didn't believe that.
Ibrahim, you told me that you changed your game plan because Jolanda was first
out. And you thought, you know what, being strong ain't a good idea. Well, I
don't think her being strong was the problem. I thought that was something
that we needed.
But I think people couldn't handle her strong personality.
And I guess I didn't want to jump out there and do the same thing and get me
of the game quick.
We got put on the cursed island.
Yeah, blame it on the island. All right. Up next, couples updates from Jeff and
Kim and Greg and Jan. That should be interesting. Plus, for one survivor, the
experience in Palau led to a dramatic life change, and we will share that with
you. But first, take a look at these record number of events that have never
happened before.
Survivor first.
Tough to say, but guys, it is time for you to go.
We couldn't believe that we were going back to Tribal Council.
This has to be a record.
It was exciting being the last Oolong member. At the same time, it was really
scary. Oolong has been conquered, and one more now joins Karora.
We have a tie.
We're tied.
We're tied.
Ian, we're still tied.
If I don't step down, I'm going to beat you.
That's why I won't step down.
Who are you voting out of this game?
I'm going to vote out my buddy, Ian.
music you hear every week on every episode of Survivor is those guys right
there. Russ Landau, David Vanacourt.
Great musicians and composers.
Okay.
Jen, give me the update. You and Greg were a couple on the island. Are you a
couple now?
We were on the island. We had a good alliance. We had a good bond and it was
good friendship too and we're still continuing to be friends and let the
battle after this whole thing and see what happens. Alright.
Kim, Jeff, same thing. You guys posed in a magazine. Are you a couple now? Are
you friends? What, Kim?
We are amazing friends.
I actually live out in California now, and we get the chance to hang out and
have fun, and great time on the island.
I'm just glad to have him in my life as a friend.
Nice.
Hey, one other thing. I'll put Willard with you that didn't make the show that
thought was really interesting.
You're an attorney, but you didn't tell people that. You told them.
I told him I was a mailman.
And I'd actually been a mailman a long time ago when I was an undergraduate.
But my theory was, you take a random selection of Americans, a significant
portion of them know lawyer jokes, dislike lawyers.
Nobody dislikes the mailman. And they all bought it. You guys didn't know.
We'll tell Karen, but Karen is a lawyer, too. We can smell each other out.
One other thing we have to share, very big surprise with, I think, everybody
here, except for one person, and that person is Kobe. You came back home, big
life change. Tell us about it.
Well, everybody keeps saying family and how important family is. And one of the
other things that Survivor did for me was it helped me put away a lot of the
guilt about being a gay man and deciding that I can't have my own family.
So when I got back, I started looking into adoption.
And I was looking at international adoption, and my cousin was actually
enough to call me, and odd enough, she was pregnant and couldn't keep it.
So I actually adopted a little girl.
One more part to this door.
I named her Junior.
On that note, where is Survivor going next? More stories to come.
on the early show here on CBS.
Tom will get a check for a million bucks.
And along with that, you get something else, which is a 2005 Chevy SSR. You
saw it out on the island.
Nice little rig.
And I have the keys right here.
Good hands.
However, Palau comes to a close. There is a brand new batch of newbies waiting
to take part in the greatest adventure of their lives.
Want to know where they're going?
Take a look.
Hidden deep in the rainforest of Central America stand the ruins of an ancient
civilization that once prospered and then vanished.
These were the Maya people, and this is the country of Guatemala.
These stunning cities of the past stand as clues to a mystery thousands of years
old.
While Europe was in the Dark Ages, it was the Maya who harnessed the knowledge
of the stars and the celestial movements to create a mystical union of man,
nature, and the gods.
It was a world of great kings, elaborate ceremonies.
fierce battles, and even human sacrifice.
Eighteen survivors will be marooned within this mysterious and rugged
For the first time, the castaways will actually live within the ruins of a
vanished civilization, and they will be forced to embrace the ancient Maya
lifestyle.
Join us this fall as the adventure continues.
with Survivor Guatemala, the Maya Empire.
And if you'd like to own your very own piece of Survivor Palau, here's how you
can do it. Immediately following the reunion show, log on to eBay at survivor
-auction .com. You're going to find...
All sorts of one -of -a -kind props and memorabilia, including the votes and the
urn and torches and all that stuff. All the money goes to Elizabeth Glazer
Pediatric AIDS Foundation.
The auction runs from May 15th tonight through May 28th. To date, Survivor fans
have raised almost $1 .5 million to ensure a healthier future for kids all
the world.
Also, if you think this game looks like fun...
And you'll play with a broken ankle. Then put together a short little
Give us a peek at your life. Tell us why you think you'd be good on the show.
And who knows, maybe this time next year, you'll be sitting here with a
for a million bucks. That's the great thing about Survivor. It really could be
you. Everything you need to know is at cbs .com.
We will see you all from Guatemala in September.
Good night.
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