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- Good morning, Dr. Lüders. - Yes, good morning.

We would like to do a short interview do with you.

- But one minute, no longer. - One minute, yes.

Then I'm leaving this beautiful landscape.

- Yes. - No no.

- We would like to… - I don't want to get under the car.

No.

We would like to warmly welcome you to Congratulations on your 80th birthday.

Thanks.

- And to the award of the honorary doctorate. - Thanks.

And would you like ask some questions.

What do you think today about the realization of your great concern,

women's equality?

It is partly fulfilled, on the other hand, not.

And if people don’t keep fighting,

they become what they have, lose again.

May I please address something?

And?

You are the mediator announced in the Bundestag.

What would you do today about the mediating role of women

in active politics?

I think that without the mediation the woman doesn't care at all,

because men have a strong have a tendency to quarrel,

and the women an equally have a strong tendency to reconcile.

- Thank you, Dr. Lüders. - Please.

Power is seen as unfeminine.

I've never understood that.

I can still remember to my first major event

with Susanne von Paczensky, with Eva Rühmkorf in Berlin.

Big posters, I was so proud.

It said "Women and Power?" And behind it a question mark.

And I was the only one on the podium,

who said, that I don't understand the question mark.

That I want power, that power something is not bad per se,

but only the way how to exercise power can be bad,

and of course then has to be criticized.

But if I am powerless, then I am powerless.

And precisely because I am a woman, I don't want to be powerless,

but I want power, that means having influence,

about the things that I think are right, to be able to enforce.

My German teacher always clearly expressed:

"Ursula, politics is unfeminine," she always told me.

And the more she said it, "Ursula, politics is unfeminine,"

the more I annoyed her, of course.

But it made me to become increasingly involved in politics.

When I graduated from high school, they came to me and said:

"So, we wish you all the best for the future

and that you will become a Hamm-Brücher, but in our sense."

Hamm-Brücher was so the controversial politician in Bavaria,

has advanced education policy, but she was very, very argumentative,

and of course not in the spirit of the monastery school.

So I was allowed to become Hamm-Brücher,

but please with your values.

Since 1950 entered the Bavarian state parliament,

Hildegard Hamm-Brücher fights for better school policy.

Courage to be independent, Civil courage and expertise

made it one of the most famous German cultural politicians.

And what is her most urgent political goal at the moment?

The external and internal school conditions for our children to improve

as urgently needed

and as unfortunately happened in the past Again and again, far too little happened.

My mother has me already driven to learn,

because she hadn't had a high school diploma

and said: "Girl, learn something!

What you have learned no one can take that away from you anymore."

My father was also something very conservative, he said:

"Girl, don't study so much, you won't get a man."

A woman has two questions in life:

What should I wear? And what should I cook?

Yes, that was the image of women.

The man is the breadwinner, the woman is a housewife/mother

and makes it possible for him if he has a corresponding position,

also invite guests, to lead a social life.

And with their own education it also supports the children.

I remember a classmate, that was in high school,

she suddenly said, she wants to study mathematics.

And even we all fell off our chairs,

because we couldn’t imagine that a girl studies mathematics.

When a woman, a young girl then danced out of line,

then it was made clear to her, that she violated the role model.

The sentence: "She's getting married anyway", accompanied me the whole time,

until finally at the beginning of my studies.

And when I arrived in Berlin started studying law,

There were less than 10% of us women.

Or in lectures, if then the famous Professor Raape in Hamburg

Auditorium day addressed as "gentlemen".

Although we all, the few Girls who were in the lecture

sat in the front row. He stuck with "gentlemen."

I still have the right to speak here!

From your trust

I am first in the German Reich.

The reunification a free fatherland,

This is where the wish comes from.

We want to dare more democracy.

We want to

don't experiment.

…no experiments,

because they are the German people again would fall into the abyss.

I was at the Adenauer Foundation yesterday,

the pictures were hanging there. Only blackcoats.

So the former leading commissions, ministers,

all blackcoats, not a single woman among them.

I once said:

"A democracy can't be just half."

To the wholeness of a people include women and men.

I am of the opinion that the woman on gives all areas their own share,

and therefore also in politics.

I would like to say, also as Federal Minister there would be opportunities for a woman.

This would certainly affect the cabinet meetings revive, Mr. Minister.

Oh, please not just as a decorative item.

But I would like to believe that there are some capable woman in our country,

the professional and factual to the difficult conversation between the men

about order, about the future could give their part.

Yes, I meant that very seriously.

I believe women can contribute to cabinet meetings,

which the men don't immediately realize. Not, Minister?

I definitely think that women could help us, including in the cabinet.

That was my first experience, A real experience. In the Bundestag

our women's group called by Mrs Brauksiepe,

and then in each committee had to be a woman,

and in the federal government, Adenauer didn't get any.

And then four went to Adenauer,

Fr. Brauksiepe with a chic hat…

Then they came back and said:

"So we did it."

And then we were excited for Dr. Schwarzhaupt.

It was fantastic.

So it really wasn’t just later Minister of Health,

but as a very young woman she was in the Stresemann party,

in the German People's Party, leading in administration.

Then very active in the confessing church,

and then after the war also under construction immediately.

Dr. Schwarzhaupt did it really well

and introduced many new things.

For example labeling of food and such,

which did not exist before.

I swear it, so help me God.

Your appointment, Dr. Schwarzhaupt,

the first female minister the Federal Republic

causes us a little embarrassment, Regarding the salutation:

Madam Minister or Madam Minister?

I mean Madam Minister, because I am a woman

and since the German language has two forms, one female and one male,

for such words.

It may be a little ungallant, but it is it is not worth considering asking yourself,

whether a woman in politics has a completely wants to take a certain position,

should or must only because because she is a woman?

So ungallant seems to me Your question doesn't even exist.

It is a question that has been appears wherever you work.

But personally I have the encouraging experience,

that women can also be trusted,

because we are often expected to do a lot.

And what you have to contribute is something other than what the man brings.

When I work like a man, speak like a man,

could one have my own husband yes, have been sent here for 20 years,

and that is simply not the case.

Vive la différence, if you will.

Everyone brings the par he has, to do the whole thing right.

It is no one there to decide.

Gentlemen, in the hour of need

must be determined Decisions are made.

And there has always been in history courageous women of humanity,

who intervened to save the day.

I am the longest-serving member of the Company, everything obeys my command.

Oh my God.

Initially, the women Lone fighters, all for themselves.

And then, in the 70s, the other women were discovered,

who were in the same situation.

And you no longer have to fight each other competes for the only women's place,

but they have joined forces, for more women's places,

in quotation marks.

I began, to be interested in politics.

I took take part in political events.

Until then, I had didn't trust anything at all,

I also lived in a marriage, who didn't have much faith in me.

And I started to get involved in political to go to events and noticed:

"People are listening to you, when you make an argument."

I suddenly felt two meters bigger, very confirmed,

and suddenly got courage to your own self start now.

How do you manage to have family and work under one roof?

This is a question that generally unfortunately only female politicians are asked.

I have… You have to of course make compromises.

You have to live your life organize differently.

But it can be done this way, how businesswomen manage

as women of farmers.

The father of my children was very bad cope with this new role model.

Suddenly I was no longer the one who only idolized her husband

and otherwise kept his mouth shut. I had my own opinion.

He was very bad at dealing with it and we broke up.

In '68 I took my exams in Berlin, I then returned to Tübingen,

was then for a while district chairman there

and then, from 1970,

the social democratic women in Baden-Württemberg,

a bit scary our then state leaders,

because they support our cheerful terrorism, actually, we didn't really like it that much.

Because of course we said: "So, in the next local elections,

we want to increase the proportion of women to the Municipal Parliament

at least double, if not more."

We looked at

which regulations within the party you have to know,

how is a budget drawn up, how do I present myself,

what are the typical characteristics, how men behave in committees,

how do they negate women, what do you do about it and things like that.

And we had a lot of fun, and it was successful too.

My name is Herta Däubler-Gmelin, am 29 years old,

Member of Parliament since 19 November and by the way, Swabian.

It blows through the whole history a move towards emancipation

From humans to infusoria Everywhere the woman wants to be on the throne

From the Amazons to the Berlin Range

A cry like thunder roars

"What men can do, we have long been able

And maybe a whole lot more"

Get the men out of the Reichstag

And get the men out of the state parliament

And get the men out of the mansion

We're turning it into a women's shelter

Get men out of existence

And get the men out of here

And get the men out of there

They should have left long ago

Yes, get the men out of the building

And get into those things with the woman!

Morning, Sister Ina.

- May I? - But of course.

I advise you to to do with the head nurse.

She'll stick one on you.

Well, he might not like it.

But you do, You can see that.

You're confusing that.

I'm just being lenient, because you are sick.

Not that sick, huh?

Impudence!

- So what's going on? - Nothing more.

Some hold Nurses for fair game.

You take things like that with humor.

So, it was before the summer break.

A major educational policy debate was in the Bundestag.

I practically had to give the last speech.

And then I go back to my place where I am.

Halfway Stücklen stands in front of me and says:

"Mrs. Schuchardt…" Takes his Thumb, goes over my back

and suddenly makes the CSU like this…

Did I say, "What was that?"

"Yes, we bet: Is she wearing a bra or not?

I say, "So?" "Yeah, he doesn't wear one."

Someone has to the press.

Oh God, now the summer break was over,

and I think, how terrible, so I went to the presidium and said:

"Mr. Stücklen, excuse me. I didn't give this to the press."

Then the man actually says to me:

"Oh, don't worry, has strengthened my liberal image."

You also had to learn to ward off dredging,

that the Lord is not mortally offended and then your sworn enemy is in the faction.

I want to say this quite openly:

We have nothing against old men,

We don't have anything against old women either.

We have nothing against young women either. I would like to say that too.

Only… only…

So dear Mrs. Nickels, Ms. Hickel, Ms. Vollmer, Ms. Schoppe,

I want to say, We all grow old together.

They look partly It sounds quite acceptable, that's true, but...

But I want to tell you this, as far as old men are concerned,

the ravages of time, the ravages of time is also bothering you quite a bit,

I want to tell you that.

You had to master that skillfully, this… this game,

defend, but not… not to insult as a man in any way.

This was the case in all groups, also with us.

Unfortunately, I have to say, Journalists also dug.

When something is taboo here on the political stage,

then it is the intimate lives of Bonn politicians.

A Sunday paper and the Greens

have now with this discretion Broke up.

Green MP Klaus Hecker from Kronberg in Hesse

has come under fire.

He is supposed to inform parliamentary group staff of the Greens who groped breasts,

if I ever can be expressed so casually.

Ms. Schoppe, what is wrong with the Accusations against Mr. Hecker?

It was actually the case that Mr. Hecker grabbed three women's breasts.

Wouldn’t it be better to resolve such conflicts humanely,

as the political club to swing?

A slap in the face would be there for example, also appropriate.

But then it would have been an isolated case,

the conflict between Klaus Hecker and a woman, and that's not how it is.

It is a social reality, and we want to uncover them.

What do you think of breast grabbing and butt pinching?

That is currently under discussion.

They don't do that to me anymore.

At work, you should avoid In my free time I am in favor of it.

If it were something extraordinary, I would do it anyway.

Haven’t you ever thought about doing something like that?

Why? I've actually done that before.

And what happened?

The woman said that was nice. But that wasn’t in the Bundestag either.

I have VIP service at the airport made for all the politicians,

that were "in" at the time: Strauss, Stücklen…

Although I have to say, at my job there at the airport

I have the politicians not only positive experiences.

So, if you thinks about the MeToo debate

and to some of those I looked after there,

in the morning when they are completely drunk went on the plane,

then… there is a lot that could be said.

Touches and other things I have already experienced

also with Richard Stücklen.

I was at an event with him, still in my early stages.

Then he said:

"She's not married, She's not that ugly after all."

Uh… I thought that… I would prefer that…

If I hadn't been in front of people, I would have slapped him in the face.

Celebrity help for the lawyer Friedrich Bohl,

Member since 1970 of the Hessian State Parliament.

He is now moving to Bonn.

Richard Stücklen explains to Ms. Bohl, what she got herself into.

If my wife doesn't would have shown so much understanding,

I would never have been in politics can do that,

what I have done in 31 years now.

I'm happy to believe that.

If the woman is not right, doesn't help at all.

Even today, people trivialize This MeToo debate. Um…

If women had spoken sooner… sooner,

one would also have in the areas,

I believe, developed a different sensitivity.

I would like to say something briefly to say about last night.

Dear ladies and gentlemen, Dear friends,

last night is here been insulted in an unqualified manner.

You have… You still have to work on yourselves, gentlemen,

so that the dignity of this house doesn't quite get to the point.

The discussion about paragraph 218 has started again.

This paragraph, which, under certain conditions

the woman's abortion a pregnancy is possible,

has the suffering that the abortion cannot reduce the impact that this entails.

That was a very sober speech, if you listen to it again.

She doesn't have raised his voice magnificently,

but she spoke rather quietly.

And probably because they also armed internally,

because she knew what was coming.

We move in a society, standardizes living conditions:

on uniform fashions, Uniform housing, uniform opinion,

also on a uniform morality.

What led to that people lie down in the evening

and before falling asleep perform a unit exercise.

The man usually carries out negligent penetration.

Negligent, because most men

take no action for contraception.

I admired her, I say this quite openly,

because I heard the same words in the Bundestag would probably not have voted,

but I thought it was absolutely right.

This speech was a great celebration for all women,

who is interested in women and women's movement.

So never, never has anyone spoken in the Bundestag.

We demand punishment in cases of marital rape.

We urge you to to finally acknowledge

that women have a right to self-determination

about her body and her life.

We urge all of you to to stop sexism here in Parliament.

The mood at the time of the speech at Mrs. Schoppe's, was simply disgusting.

I mean, something like "witch", well, that's not very nice,

but not below the belt.

But things happened, clearly sexualized,

which was shouted at her, something like: "Nobody wants to sleep with you anyway."

So really very ugly.

I would have not expected from MPs.

I realize I said the right thing, You are... you are hit.

That was,

yes, it was embarrassing sometimes for the men.

One really felt sorry for the men,

who had to roar like that in certain passages,

because they are so in their innermost being were attacked

and were no longer accepted as natural rulers in the world.

It was already like this, that the colleagues did not understand

how they actually treat us.

For them we were just a few garnishes, so little flowers,

but not necessarily serious politicians,

who have just as much to say as they do.

A real turning point would be

if up here for example a chancellor would stand

and would point out to people

that there are forms of lovemaking, who are lustful

and the possibility of a Completely rule out pregnancy.

But of course you can just talk about it,

of which at least understands a little bit.

Seriously, I would agree with the Chancellor never want to talk about it.

Anyone who, through their politics…

Anyone who destroys the environment through their policies and initiated misanthropic actions,

has missed the chance

in the conversation about sensuality to be included.

The word colleague Kleinert, Hanover.

Mr. President!

Ladies and gentlemen.

We're not half as uptight,

as I did after the lecture, that we just heard… here…

…have to accept that we suspect it.

A lot of people live in this country,

very healthy, balanced, also cheerful,

cheerful in a very healthy way,

and still don't do it the subject of plenary debates,

how they live.

That was, if I remember correctly, Her first speech in the Bundestag.

And then you get a rush

from, yes, not friendlier, relaxed cheerfulness,

but, as I felt, but one sees,

yes, actually being laughed at.

So I had cheerfulness and relaxation in Parliament anyway not expected,

I have to say.

And when that happened with the laughter and also with the aggressions,

I thought, just now,

there is still a lot to be done Basic work needs to be done.

And we have performed than women.

The foreign policy orientation of our country is at stake.

The Soviet Union must not succeed

with the help of their enormous armament efforts,

which are not caused by any recognizable Need for defense and security

are to be justified,

to intimidate us Western Europeans,

our political restrict freedom of action

and us from the United States.

Mr President, ladies and gentlemen,

I would like to ask you first not to laugh.

The chain I have around my neck is not a carnival item.

She is more highly respected in Hiroshima than the Federal Cross of Merit here.

I ask you to support the chain here to show due respect.

It consists of 1,000 cranes.

The crane is a national symbol for happiness and peace in Japan,

and there is an old custom and an old legend:

Whoever folds 1,000 cranes,

he will be lucky, Blessings and a long life.

And after the bomb fell,

have many survivors in their misery and despair

raised himself up by the thought

and tried to fold 1,000 cranes,

before they die from radiation... well, just died away.

In 1982 I had in our area the entire peace movement was first built

and then expressly also a women's peace movement,

because I knew exactly:

One could this denunciation of the peace movement,

"all controlled by Moscow",

"Freaks who have nothing else to do than to demonstrate",

pull the tooth when mothers, Grandmothers and children appeared.

We have woven barracks gates shut, Breakfasts organized.

The General Commander came then secretly in civilian clothes by bicycle

and looked at it.

It has lifted them out of their forms, because they didn't expect it.

Fr. Nickels,

Your concern about the consequences the Hiroshima catastrophe is moving.

I share this concern,

because as a child in my severely destroyed hometown Koblenz

experienced the bombing nights.

I was buried twice.

I know, how terrible war was even back then.

I also know from his stories,

that our Chancellor Helmut Kohl suffered the war very personally.

At the age of 13 he was in a school fire engine

used in the bombing war in Ludwigshafen,

and he has his brother lost through the death of soldiers.

Yes, Helmut Kohl was an emotional person,

you have to know that. And I can still remember

as I stepped down from the lectern, the two stages,

I came past the Chancellor's square.

Then he struck me with his paw on the shoulder, appreciatively,

and was of the opinion I would have done well.

What is bad is

that many in the peace movement

from this dispute make a religious war.

That they themselves consider to be the public conscience

and with their intolerance destroy inner peace.

That the peace movement I reject the idea that it is a fear movement.

This is the fear movement,

who sit on this government bench and scare us.

If we use our non-violent Resistance and civil disobedience

Legal regulations and violate laws,

then because of that, because we are in agreement with a higher law,

reckon with the law of conscience and because we know:

The power of the state is not absolute.

Petra Kelly was already an icon back then. For some she was a saint.

For others, yes…

They didn't exactly think positively of her.

But the women were strong, been very strong,

not only in the NATO double-track decision.

For us, Wackersdorf was a very big question.

Reprocessing plant in the Upper Palatinate.

And women were massively involved.

A final word to the children in the peace movement.

Parents were denounced,

who take their children to peace demonstrations on October 22nd.

I have three children myself, and I tell you, it's rather the other way around.

Already the ten-year-olds take their parents with them.

- Do you think that's good? - Two topics… Yes, I think that's good.

There are two topics that concern them:

forest dieback and rearmament.

And so I would like to conclude with the Text of the banner by young people.

Yes stand:

"You deal with the world, as if you had a second one in the basement."

Let us show them that they were mistaken.

Women, I mean this across party lines with all women together,

that they are also in the rearmament debate, for example,

much more intensively on the real problems entered than all the men in there.

That was my feeling and I was happy because I felt

there is something connecting.

I don't want to sugarcoat it or strive for harmony,

but there is something there because maybe are more closely connected to everyday life.

As long as men rule us, carry the rockets in front of your head

like others have a plank in front of their heads,

things won't get better here, and we don't need new rockets.

We need new men in this country.

Mr President,

my dear Colleagues.

I can thank the Chancellor not express my distrust,

after I told him just a few months ago

I expressed my trust.

I find, that both of them don't deserve this:

Helmut Schmidt, to be overthrown without a vote,

and you, Helmut Kohl, without a vote to become Chancellor.

Hildegard Hamm-Brücher was a highly respected politician

and has in the Bundestag also gave really great speeches.

It was not easy, also in dealing with colleagues.

She had…

She was not a… "woman's woman", we said back then.

This was not a given for her, that she stands up for other women.

But then the famous Situation during the vote of no confidence.

It was then completely clear among us,

where it was clear that we would vote against it, that she would give the speech.

So I think these two processes have in my opinion

You give hatred. of violated democratic decency.

They damage

moral integrity of changes of power.

And then…

And then…

Yes, I see it that way, I'm sorry.

They see it differently and said so too.

I mean, that there can be no blessing on it.

It was clear to everyone, that an earthquake is now underway,

with this speech, and then also clear,

that this is now in the FDP would also trigger an earthquake.

Just two years ago the voter has clearly

in favor of the social-liberal Coalition decided.

Therefore we must ask him, before we change this.

Handshake between Dr. Hildegard Hamm-Brücher

and Chancellor Helmut Schmidt.

A very personal,

a very dense justification their voting behavior,

as soon as it comes to a vote.

What I have heard here in terms of appeals,

an Resentments,

of emotions,

I can only partially understand as an attack on our Constitution.

If freedom of expression a member of parliament

or a Member of Parliament,

who announce that according to their conscience to speak and act,

is referred to as an attack on our Constitution…

…as an attack on our Constitution, then the leadership must…

I only intend to speak three sentences.

And please let me finish.

I still have the right to speak here.

This Constitution is a moral institute of German politics.

And if, within the framework of this Constitution,

whether this is more or less in the specific situation,

decisions are made, work is done,

then it cannot be immoral

and certainly not be unchristian, Madam colleague.

Member of Parliament Dr. Helmut Kohl

is the Federal Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany.

- The question… - Buh!

Electing Helmut Kohl was a serious breach of trust among voters.

Truly a breach of an election promise.

We were not the only ones, it was a great uproar among the population.

That was against good faith,

and that is also the reason why I am with Genscher,

who kept it a secret until the end, never exchanged a word again.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I am now really an old party conference warhorse.

I have most

in Germany since 1967 attended the party conferences that took place,

but I have never seen such a experienced a tearful party conference like this one.

Something must have happened here in this party.

I ask for your understanding,

that for me is simply a question of self-respect,

according to the result of this test to run for the Federal Executive Board.

That wasn't all.

For Ingrid Matthäus-Maier meant the re-election of Genscher

and the approval of the Bonn Change of power the loss of face of the FDP

and the development towards to a right-wing economic party.

Final concerns, final advice, final objections.

You can no longer change their minds.

She considers the FDP no longer as their political home.

And the FDP party conference loses for a few moments

the atmosphere of businesslikeness, when she explains:

I am therefore resigning from my positions in the FDP down and leave the FDP.

Some more party resignations follow this evening.

Others hesitate and are at a loss.

Will there be a change after the Berlin party conference to a wave of resignations from the FDP?

Many fear it.

And so it was, with sometimes tragic outcomes.

Friendships have broken down.

I have experienced marriages who are broken by it,

on the change of coalition.

After that, life changed for many, for me, for example.

It was quite clear that this coalition… I could never have voted for Kohl.

I could never have chosen him.

And with that I knew exactly:

I have to pay for this with my own political survival.

I am woman, hear me roar

In numbers too big to ignore

And I know too much To go back and pretend

'cause I've heard it all before

And I've been down there on the floor

No one's ever Going to keep me down again

- Oh yes, I am wise - Yes, I am wise

- But it's wisdom born of pain - Oh

- Yes, I've paid the price - Yes, I've paid the price

But look how much I gained

- If I have to - Have to

- I can do anything - Anything

- I am strong - Strong

- I am invincible - Invincible

I am woman

May I introduce you to the Chancellor?

He will be happy, finally the chairwoman of a…

May I introduce you to Fr. Matthäus, the chairwoman of our Young Democrats?

And you already have had such a negotiation?

Yes, we already have had a negotiation.

At Bonn parties she is shown around like a bird of paradise.

A rare specimen:

a woman who, at the age of 26

Head of one of the three big political youth organizations.

But Ingrid Matthäus, new chairwoman of the Young Democrats,

wants to show it to their political fathers, would rather give them trouble than joy,

especially to his own party leader.

Many people were surprised, that for the first time a woman is now chairwoman

such a large organization.

And you? Do you think it is normal that a woman can hold such an office?

So I think that’s normal,

and the Young Democrats This is not abnormal either.

We have on many levels,

District, regional and state levels, Women as chairmen.

Of course, this is in previous public life

definitely not normal.

But I hope that this will be the or another woman gains more courage,

to do that too,

even if this is not the fundamental solves social problems,

which at the moment prevent women's emancipation.

I still remember that dpa wrote at the time,

it might not have been entirely wrong:

"aggressive and attractive".

The problem is that as a woman, I noticed that very quickly,

if you are active, if you are decisive,

what you want and enforce it and say: "Now I get the majorities..."

I am sure a man would have been told:

"But he's decisive."

"He has ideas and visions, He wants to implement that."

But this is an experience, that I have collected over the years,

that when women say "I want it that way and that's what I'm fighting for,"

which is viewed rather critically, also among viewers, rather than men.

That means "decisive" and not "authoritarian".

Since chaos rarely comes alone,

we now report about the expulsion of men

from paradise the Green Party leadership,

if there is a paradise should have been.

The Greens were as you already know,

what in the average marriage The norm seems to be:

The women took command.

What has developed gently over the years in a marriage almost imperceptibly,

The Green ladies managed in a rush, so to speak,

without sentimentality, with brutal access,

worse than the worst male chauvinists could have done.

We are now making this experiment here,

and we see this as a signal for the women in our party,

to become more involved, for women in other parties too.

And we also see this as a signal

across the borders of the Federal Republic of Germany for all women,

to become more involved in politics.

When we were with six women were elected as parliamentary group leader,

they are all… blown away.

Well, you can imagine it… The FAZ wrote:

"On a broad trail of slime Crawling after women's emancipation,

the men abolished themselves."

Or then from the "gynaecocracy" spoke, to which I said:

"So if there are only men sitting there, You don't say 'urology' either."

So, simply, which terms do they…

But there were serious Moderators, journalists,

something like that… from which this broke out.

And one was of course, invited immediately.

And… well, I… I found that interesting.

When I was standing with Nowottny, I first said: "What is that?"

He was quite small.

He had a transparent hump, where he stood.

Then of course he was taller than me.

"Aha, that's how it works!" So I had fun with it.

Christa Nickels on her first course

as newly elected Group manager.

Since Tuesday, the fate the Greens in their hands

and in those of five other women.

A surprise coup, the background of which only become visible gradually.

Nervous but carefree negotiates nickels

already in the late morning with their colleagues from the other parties.

Self-praise stinks, as we all know, and I don't want to praise myself,

but I have the impression that today I have one leg

I jumped in quite well.

I will definitely still need to be polished.

I still have to get used to it, get more routine,

but this can be achieved, I have no concerns.

No job that necessarily depends on the gender of the owner?

No, in the head, in the mind,

and it depends, as we know, not on long hair.

When we elected the women’s board,

were some SPD women, Left-wing SPD women, totally outraged.

What that is, one should not exaggerate,

throw the baby out with the bathwater. And…

Yes, these CSU women,

so this really strictly value-conservative,

They were really happy, congratulated us.

It was a topsy-turvy world, where one thought:

"My God, what is into the SPD women?"

With the Feminat at the Greens

I have now actually not necessarily so intensively engaged.

Whereby I say, I like men, and I think

that male experiences in life,

just not to this extent.

I congratulated you.

I congratulated them in writing, and of course they were also…

They made it public.

I then received a nasty letter

from my get parliamentary group manager,

whether I am still of all good spirits,

that I support such nonsense and then congratulate you.

And without the Green women and then without the SPD quota

would that be in the Union area not possible.

It is a bit difficult at first, to face only men.

They have expectations, want to see

whether you stand up for yourself, as the saying goes.

Of course there are still prejudices. An example from the last election campaign:

When I once had a regular meeting in a small Upper Bavarian town

and really made an effort…

After the event An older farmer told me:

"Well, maybe, Madel,

you'll get it on Monday, then you don't need to go to something like that."

You had to, because then the women stood up outside

and the new women's movement naturally came, Alice Schwarzer came.

These were all consequences, all parallel processes over the years,

in Parliament and outside Parliament,

which have fertilized each other.

Come, don't be softened

Stay strong at your core

Don't slip into their switches

Don't drive yourself away

Under the pavement

There is the beach

Come on, tear it too a few stones from the sand

Come on, don't let them tell you

What you have to leave behind

You can choose yourself

Just slow, no rush

Under the pavement

There lies the beach

Come on, you too

A few stones from the sand

Spin and dance

Then they can't grab you

Chase them away completely

With your loud laughter

It's your turn!

Even long-serving party conference veterans, ladies and gentlemen,

cannot remember

at other events of this kind to have seen so many women

like the CDU in the Grugahalle in Essen.

Heiner Geißler's idea to bring the CDU to promote the "new partnership",

as the Secretary-General calls it, close,

organized the CDU meeting in the middle in the Ruhr area more amiable,

and, more importantly, future-oriented.

The party wants equality of men and women in everyday life

by the year 2000.

A high standard.

In the run-up to this party conference Heiner Geißler announced,

that after the party conference resigns as Minister for Family Affairs

and fully dedicated to his task as Secretary General.

Then I said in the Women’s Union:

"This is the moment now we must demand

that finally a second woman comes into the cabinet.

Kohl can forget about the party conference, if he doesn't announce it credibly."

I assume that the CDU does not want to embarrass itself

and the second minister is due, because otherwise it would be ridiculous.

By the way, I think there should be at least three or four.

At least the number of female ministers

in your government on these demands

correspond to the share of female party members.

I'm not telling you anything new, You know how many you have.

I think 21 percent, but well, we might…

May I say something about that?

- Yes, immediately... - You're jumping from one thing to the next.

No, I'll just finish it for you.

A second alibi woman will be found have to be satisfied.

Then the lovely ladies explained: "But then he won't take any of us.

Then he'll be really angry with us."

Then I said: "If you go there If you're afraid, I'll do it alone."

And had a very large press response, when I explained:

"Kohl can forget about the party conference, if he does not announce

that he takes a second wife."

He then told me, through third parties of course,

I should not imagine that I was the second wife.

Look how it's already going.

In advance, after the publication of your guidelines,

a politician dared and said:

"Please, how about with a second female minister?"

From now on, the matter was only negotiated behind closed doors.

No woman dared to say anything anymore.

And a very exposed, very capable Politician literally said to me:

"We don't want to talk about that now.

We know cabbage, and if we say that again,

then we get no second chair at all."

- That is not true. - That's the balance of power.

- It's a matter of grace. - No.

The cabbage has said to Schäuble and Geißler:

"I'm not that stupid

and take me like Edward Heath a Thatcher to the chest."

I found that particularly funny, to find out.

But he had to announce at the party conference,

that he has a second wife into the cabinet,

and that was then Rita Süssmuth.

This is her: Rita Süssmuth, Geißler’s successor, professor.

Previously social worker in Dortmund, 48 years old,

the new Minister for Family Affairs from the second half of September.

Like Kai from the box she came to the new office.

They say you are very loyal.

Does this go so far that you might this word from the interim minister

would refer to themselves?

So I am loyal,

where the cause and the people

that require and make possible for me.

What is very important to me,

that every person represents what he himself is.

And I am me,

my predecessor was a different person and embodies what he is.

Pretty confident, Professor.

Some ladies in the CDU/CSU Bundestag faction will sulk.

We were a bit offended, but…

That's true, when Rita Süssmuth came.

And…

Do you know, the Union was in opposition for so long.

No one could become anything anymore, no one has ascended,

and the women rowed and rowed.

I then also have the beginning perceived as very difficult.

I also had a bad prognosis first in the newspapers:

"It'll be gone in half a year."

I admit, of course, this particularly provoked to say:

"I don't want that.

If I get involved now, I also want to persevere."

Rita Süssmuth was yes, a career changer,

a woman who was conservative in her values,

but actually far from their time, was far ahead.

She would be good today fit into Angela Merkel's CDU.

Back then she was an absolute white raven in this black pile.

And they had taken her,

to give the impression of sustainability,

also against the background of the awakening of women and the Greens in Parliament.

And then she saw herself immediately confronted with the HIV crisis,

has taken completely unorthodox paths,

highly efficient, but highly controversial within his own party.

In a tough exchange of blows with the state of Bavaria

the minister enforces that the fight against AIDS

rather with a broad Awareness campaign and advice

can be reached, than with stricter laws.

Tina, how much do the condoms cost?

If you are for the homosexual scene has an understanding,

that's not what it's about, but it is about

that one must make it clear, that day is against nature ,

thus contrary to nature, and basically into pathological behavior.

We must finally the protection of many in the population

as a central goal in mind, and not just move around

who on the edge can be understood even better.

This edge needs to be made thinner.

It needs to be thinned out.

It must be made clear

that this is for our youth there are no future prospects.

This also showed at that time, what is taboo:

the homosexuals,

those were all the villains, who spread AIDS in our country.

And to defend yourself,

that of course made me often brought into conflict

with official policy.

You and Helmut Kohl, that was…

At some point this became a very familiar pair of opponents.

He was furious, that she was so different,

than he thought she would be.

And she was quite stunned about the macho attitudes,

which one, not only with Kohl, but simply experienced in this environment.

Rita Süssmuth on the way to announce her candidacy

for the office of President of the Bundestag.

The Bonn powers she had become uncomfortable.

Later she will also admit,

that she was appointed to the second highest state office was praised away.

Everyone found this horrific.

And a quick attempt was made

one or the other project

to irretrievably set in motion,

so that this continued, when she was no longer there

and her protective hand over was able to hold certain important projects.

So I should be elected here,

I remain Rita Süssmuth and active politician.

I do not intend To say goodbye to politics.

I really wanted to remain a minister.

And came out of the meeting and was no longer.

My team,

or our team and me, into great sadness.

And I thought: "There's nothing you can do now."

As President of the Bundestag, she also made something of the job, yes?

You can be President of the Bundestag use very differently.

And she has for the cause of women also made a lot of progress.

And again and again, also with others, with all questions,

she always warned put her finger in the wound.

Many initially thought: "Now she's calm.

Now we've silenced them."

But she knew that was the hope,

and she didn't give in.

Rita Süssmuth is causing unrest

at the Bremen party conference in September 1989,

when she was at the side of Lothar Späth and Heiner Geissler

the Chancellor vainly contests power.

What would actually the CDU has become a people’s party,

if we do not hold the Women’s Party Congress in Essen,

As a result, for example, and I say this quite consciously,

not the most politically significant,

most popular and respected woman in our midst,

namely Rita Süssmuth.

What would happen then?

He probably had this picture of me: "die brave Katholikin".

"One of our own."

And I wasn't.

And I would have had to betray myself completely, if I had lived this picture.

Well… it’s nice.

The air is the most beautiful thing here.

I have observed that you have a preference for boots.

And I know that you are in the service of the party

have already gone through many a pair.

Of course are these boots black,

and they should…

But above all, they should help you

the next election campaigns at the side to successfully overcome her husband's death.

Petra Kelly carries her own things.

No pity, but some men watch the Greens,

how this woman works hard, until she falls over.

After all, she is emancipated.

In German: everything she does is her own fault.

You are a woman like many others, who suffer from

when they are in the shadow of the man.

That's what you always say.

It doesn't bother you, I'll ask again,

a mute, albeit an attractive marginal figure?

You have mute now claimed again.

But they are not always there.

I have participated in many state visits.

She excelled on her trips abroad,

fluent in English, Fluent in French,

which was the case with Chancellor Kohl was not the case.

I have many impressions also got about this marriage,

but it would never have occurred to me to write or talk about it.

I don't even have talked to my husband about it.

Because this woman was totally underestimated by many.

You also talked about To bring tenderness into politics.

What does this mean, should politicians hug or even kiss?

I wouldn't mind but enough people do that.

But they do so formally.

No, tenderness in politics is that it must be there for people,

it is charity in politics.

Tenderness also means

the integrity of that what you want to protect,

that you always do this carefully.

Politics is cautious, or has to be,

if she wants to be ecological or should be.

Tenderness also means to approach each other,

to reduce the enemy image,

not just out there, but also inside us.

What does it look like now?

With the Greens…

We finally won at the federal level!

For me, Petra Kelly was the first global female politician.

She has the right to self-determination people took it very seriously.

The Australian and American Native people, but also the Black people…

The Black Power Movement.

Everyone referred to her. She received baskets full of mail.

Mr. Beuys, Petra Kelly is not easy,

not easy to describe in their diversity,

in their commitment.

What would you say? Is it a small work of art?

Yes, I would say a great work of art, if anything.

A big, important and powerful Artwork within the movement.

Naturally, She is, above all, human.

And this humanity

really comes without inhibition fully expressed

and cannot be stopped, cannot be stopped either.

Many would like that the Petra finally stops,

but she cannot be stopped, Thank God not.

Her husband is occasionally accused of

for all talents he is basically provincial.

And this judgment immediately rubs off on his wife.

Oh right.

Does it offend you when someone says:

"This Mrs. Kohl still has a trace of provincial character,

Appearance, appearance"?

Everyone has to come from somewhere.

And that is for me with provinciality difficult.

You said in the opening credits, I moved 17 times.

That's not true, it was 19 times. And where is the province after all?

Tell me.

Yes, yes, we can use the 17 or 19 places, as you say, everyone...

- You know what I mean. - Secure.

I know you want to move away in a serpentine manner.

So you keep not for provincial?

My personal opinion What do you want to hear from me?

Am I provincial?

- Just say it. - Yes.

- No. - No. Period.

- Out of. - Thanks.

Ms. Kelly, you said earlier,

the movement is so strong in itself,

that has nothing to do with the media.

I have you today heard talk for the first time,

and yet it has a lot to do with the media.

The media had…

They drew a picture of you, that I thought:

"Wonder who will appear here." And then this speech, oh my God!

In Parliament, the deprived of its effect.

For me the picture is like a deer, what they then do in such a…

into such a... into this space.

Suddenly all the magic was gone.

She really has didn't seem that way anymore

and then also incited the conservative colleagues,

to mock them.

I must say, since I have been in Bonn, I'm becoming more and more misogynistic.

I say this out of concern, because for the first time I gained my self-confidence,

everything that makes me safe in public,

lost in speaking in the Bundestag.

That I get terribly afraid, I say this openly,

an anxiety, a fear, to speak in the Bundestag.

I am worried because I see how it wears out,

wears out unnecessarily.

How she gives too much of herself, how she lets herself be torn to pieces.

And of course I’m also a little afraid, that it is marketed.

This is the great danger for everyone, who becomes prominent.

Yes, the scale is applied with any actors,

Let's be honest,

which exclusively trimmed for this role,

to be styled, made, painted and then have their text.

If it didn’t work out, then repeat this 30 times, good.

And that's great.

We are then up at eight in the evening

after five interviews and other activities

and then must in free fall, so to speak.

The lives of former Green Party MPs

Petra Kelly and Gerd Bastian ended in tragedy.

The investigators announced in the afternoon the cause of death is known:

Then shot the former Bundeswehr general

his 44-year-old partner.

Bastian then committed suicide.

About the background there is still uncertainty.

Gert Bastian may have thought,

if he himself can no longer care for them,

then it will perish.

That was a completely wrong assessment.

Also a patriarchal protective assessment.

It could have been that Petra Kelly had a burnout,

as we say today, would have folded

and would have disappeared for a long time, in a health resort or somewhere else.

But I am 100 percent convinced, that Petra, when she had grown old,

if she had had the chance,

could have found a second wind.

Hannelore Kohl, the wife the former Chancellor, is dead.

She took in her house in Ludwigshafen-Oggersheim.

In farewell letters to family and friends

She justified the step with her serious illness, a light allergy.

She had therefore can hardly leave the house anymore.

After the funeral Bernhard Vogel told me,

he once visited Hannelore and had arranged to meet her,

he wanted to go out to dinner with her.

And Hannelore was wearing a white silk blouse,

that fell over the hands, had such wide sleeves.

And then he sees, how dark spots appear,

wet spots.

And then Hannelore sees that he looks there and throws his arm back.

And there was raw meat.

And then the bird said:

"That so… that a person could not continue living like this,

I then understood that."

The word now has colleague Otto Schily, SPD.

Allow me at this point some personal remarks.

My uncle Fritz Schily,

a man of pure character, was a colonel in the Air Force.

At the end of the war

he was…

Excuse me.

After weeks of dispute, currently in Munich the exhibition:

War of annihilation: crimes the Wehrmacht from 1941 to 1944.

Mayor Ude accused the CSU today of

she bears the responsibility for the nationwide response

a neo-Nazi campaign against the exhibition.

I feel inspired by the exhibition insulted about my father.

In my opinion, incitement to hatred,

what this exhibition is about.

Defamation of the memory of the deceased.

Buh!

- This is not… - Asshole!

- …to show… - Oh my god, we don't want you!

The press lies.

The press lies.

He wants to say something, what you might like.

The press is lying!

I remember how my sister and I went to the Wehrmacht exhibition…

…visited the Wehrmacht exhibition,

with what trepidation we are there.

We didn't talk about it, only when we were outside again.

We both had the same fear:

"Hopefully we don't see…" Which would have been a crazy coincidence.

"Hopefully we will see not our dad."

This bothered both of us a lot, and I believe

that happened to many people our generation so,

that they were afraid

a father or grandfather or brother,

to see someone like that, that you don't want to see there.

Then you also have right up to the Bundestag debates,

what everyone actually knew, but what was a no-go topic,

where nobody talked about it, a big taboo…

Then it became public discussed, also in families,

that actually all had such experiences

and that it was like, yes, like a lead blanket

on the German post-war society.

So this question is about

about our relationship with a entire generation of our people.

Whoever tries, and there are such attempts,

the entire war generation

as relatives and helpers to label a criminal gang,

who wants to hit Germany to the core, and we fight against it.

My colleague Nickels, please.

Mr President, Dear Colleagues.

My mother said, that my father in the 50s,

a seasoned man who is hard worked all his life,

no night slept with the window open,

every night while sleeping screamed terribly:

from fire, from children and that it was simply horrible.

Mean…

My father Of course I loved it very much.

All the time…

I have never heard that he told what it is like,

if you look at a have to shoot people.

Then this handshake was from our Chancellor and from Reagan

in Bitburg at the cemetery, with the Waffen-SS.

That’s when I first noticed

that the only photo from my father from this time

a uniform shows, which is also black and has skulls.

I was already there in the Bundestag for the Greens.

I didn't dare, to ask my father,

because it was incredibly difficult for me.

I wouldn't have had the heart to do that, I couldn't do that.

Then in '89 I was with the Alliance Greens Bundestag faction in Warsaw.

50 years since the invasion of Poland. We were there in Majdanek.

And I only know that Dad was in France,

in Russia and in Poland, and I know

that he was in Lviv was taken prisoner.

Then I was in the KZ in Majdanek, and I tell you:

I'm there at night literally collapsed,

terribly shocked about the one in Majdanek,

but also about that, what was done to these men,

which also included my father.

These were predominantly men, who loved life,

the children loved.

What these men have become in this criminal war.

And what they did not have the strength for, to escape from it.

They all have infinite, terrible guilt upon himself

and did not have the strength to escape from it.

All the men and the women and the children…

I am the daughter from... from such a soldier.

…are still influenced by this today.

And Mr. Dregger, that's not true, that if you show the wounds,

without makeup, and begins, maybe talk about it,

that the affected people covered in dirt

or put it in a corner.

On the contrary, the best what could happen to us would be

if we could create a climate in Germany,

where the old fathers, the old mothers and the children,

more or less old, I am now 45 years old,

finally at the table be able to talk about it, calmly,

what happened to them.

It is important for me to say, and the debate impresses me.

I thought hard, whether I should say that,

because of course someone always says:

"How can you do that? That was your father."

But I feel it not as nest-fouling.

Everyone who knows me knows

how much I love my parents and love and have loved my father.

If this debate perhaps was something style-forming, then in that

that one can begin here the political reflection

and your own story honest, unvarnished,

in simple, albeit terrible images.

That is what I wish, and this Wehrmacht exhibition

can do exactly that possibly set in motion,

if you don't start, to patch up the wounds,

to give cheap consolation, which is not bread, but stones,

by giving those which were linked in it,

in retrospect says:

"It shall not hurt you anymore, because you were forced to."

That doesn't help. Thank you.

Mr. Dr. Dregger please…

Are women too modest in politics?

They say they don't think about the majority.

There are more female than male voters.

But remember, one could be equally strong

or more strongly in parliaments,

one could female Prime Minister,

female party leaders or a female chancellor?

That wouldn't have worked at all.

You just have to stay grounded.

So in the 70s and 80s A woman as Chancellor was unimaginable.

Unimaginable, yes.

You can't jump out of the test tube.

Even if you have all the gifts blessed that one would have to have,

it wouldn't have helped.

There would be a…

If the choice had been between the best woman of all in the 70s

and a stupid August, would have become Chancellor.

Yes, ready.

That was no question at all.

I always dreamed of To become Chancellor, quite honestly.

And there was a man, who said that.

There is an old interview in Der Spiegel,

who he can imagine as Chancellor, by Franz Josef Strauss.

He mentioned Renate Hellwig.

This was of course for Helmut Kohl the absolute red rag.

But Strauss doesn’t have that for you but to annoy Kohl.

- Yes but… - Nee…

After all, he would have had no one else but me.

I have been appointed Federal Chairwoman the Young Democrats is running.

We know, but that was now the Chancellor's question.

Yes, that…

You would have been great.

That may be fine. On the other hand...

I have Chancellors…

…always partly these extreme,

unconditional, over dead bodies going will to power

partly seen,

partly admired, partly feared.

But I never really wanted to become like that.

And if it had worked without that, then maybe.

And why can you then don't say: "Yes sir..."

Now speaking very abstractly. "I would have."

- No, I can't. - Yes!

Do you seriously believe

that my party to an offer of talks from Mrs Merkel

in this situation,

by saying, she wants to become Chancellor?

We must the church also leave it in the village.

The Germans… The Germans have voted clearly on the candidate question.

I swear that I will use my strength dedicate to the welfare of the German people,

increase its benefits, avert harm from him,

the Basic Law and the laws preserve and defend the Covenant,

fulfill my duties conscientiously

and justice against everyone,

so help me God.

Sometimes you could despair of history.

But sometimes you want also give short-term cheers.

I mean, Of course I can’t share everything,

what Angela Merkel does politically.

But I think it really great that…

How she became Chancellor and that she has been Chancellor for so long.

She is at least an expert, how she deals with power.

And how they all their older or younger competitors,

is impressive.

It must appear smooth, but hard fought.

I learned that too.

I know that this Word "fight" among women

and certainly not in the Man-woman relationship is the right word,

but it is the right thing to do.

In 1908, women were allowed not even at political events,

do not attend political clubs.

In 1918 they were granted the right to vote for the first time.

Then they have it taken away again.

Did their wife stand by during the war,

but then they could be push back to the stove,

made room for those who returned from the war.

It just has… Everything just takes time.

Because it is a fight, a power struggle.

Every position that today taken by a woman,

will no longer taken by a man.

Of course they have something to lose.

To make it clear that you don't lose anything,

but that it might be better when both do something together,

this awareness, that this is reflected in people’s minds,

that's hard to plant.

But maybe we can do it in the next 25 years.

I think so.

Well then…

I am woman, hear me roar

In numbers too big to ignore

And I know too much To go back and pretend

'cause I've heard it all before

And I've been down there on the floor

No one's ever going to keep me down again

- Oh yes, I am wise - Yes, I am wise

But it's wisdom born of pain

- Oh - Yes, I've paid the price

But look how much I gained

- If I have to - Have to

- I can do anything - Anything

- I am strong - Strong

- I am invincible - Invincible

I am woman

You can bend but never break me

'cause it only serves to make me

More determined to achieve my final goal

And I'll come back even stronger

Not a novice any longer

'cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

Whoa, yes, I am wise

But it's wisdom born of pain

Yes, I've paid the price

But look how much I gained

If I have to, I can do anything

- I am strong - Strong

- I am invincible - Invincible

I am woman

I am woman, watch me grow

See me standing toe-to-toe

As I spread my loving arms across the land

But I'm still an embryo

With a long, long way to go

Until I make my brother understand

Whoa, yes, I am wise

But it's wisdom born of pain

Yes, I've paid the price

But look how much I've gained

If I have to, I can face anything

- I am strong - Strong

- I am invincible - Invincible

I am woman

- Oh, I am woman - I am woman

I am invincible

I am strong

- I am woman - I am woman

I am invincible

I am strong

I am woman