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Okay. 13 00:01:02,433 --> 00:01:06,365 A few years ago, we wanted to 14 00:01:06,366 --> 00:01:10,132 try to help out with some activist anti-corporate activities. 15 00:01:10,133 --> 00:01:13,099 And we heard about this website called rtmark.com. 16 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:15,299 And, um, we went there, and they, they... 17 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:18,332 They handed us a domain name, GWBush.com, 18 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:20,365 and asked us if we might like to make a website 19 00:01:20,366 --> 00:01:22,399 that was critical of George Bush. 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,599 Um, because George Bush's real domain name was georgewbush.com. 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,232 And this was 1999, so it was just during the campaign 22 00:01:30,233 --> 00:01:32,332 when he was beginning to run for president. 23 00:01:32,333 --> 00:01:35,332 And we didn't really know quite what to do, 24 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:37,465 so we went to Bush's website and looked at it. 25 00:01:37,466 --> 00:01:40,199 And it turned out to be full of strange hypocrisies, like, 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,465 for example, he called himself 27 00:01:41,466 --> 00:01:43,165 "The environmental governor of Texas," 28 00:01:43,166 --> 00:01:46,199 but we looked a little closer at his record 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,199 and found out that he had actually created 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,299 the most polluted state in the country 31 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:53,199 because he dismantled the Clean Air laws while he was there. 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,599 And, actually, that's, I guess, what he's doing now nationally. 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,165 So we thought, "Well, this kind of hypocrisy 34 00:01:58,166 --> 00:01:59,332 "we can easily poke fun at 35 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:01,165 "by making a satire website." 36 00:02:01,166 --> 00:02:02,332 And we made this satire website 37 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:04,332 that looked exactly like Bush's 38 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:06,365 except for a few key differences. 39 00:02:06,366 --> 00:02:09,365 Like there was a photo on the banner, 40 00:02:09,366 --> 00:02:13,532 instead of him and his wife in front of the Capitol building in Texas, 41 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:16,499 we showed him pointing the finger at black people. 42 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:20,232 And this seemed to get him a little bit angry. 43 00:02:20,233 --> 00:02:22,365 So the Bush campaign tried to shut us down 44 00:02:22,366 --> 00:02:24,532 by sending us a cease and desist letter 45 00:02:24,533 --> 00:02:27,065 and by complaining to the Federal Election Commission. 46 00:02:27,066 --> 00:02:29,332 But we were able to just take those threats 47 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:31,365 and send them to the media. 48 00:02:31,366 --> 00:02:33,665 And immediately The New York Times wrote an article, 49 00:02:33,666 --> 00:02:35,732 and there were a whole bunch of other articles. 50 00:02:35,733 --> 00:02:38,365 BICHLBAUM: And in fact, one reporter read these articles, 51 00:02:38,366 --> 00:02:41,232 and at a press conference, asked Bush, 52 00:02:41,233 --> 00:02:43,766 "So, what about this website, GWBush.com, 53 00:02:44,033 --> 00:02:45,199 "what do you think of that?" 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,300 (JOURNALIST SPEAKING) 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,266 (BUSH SPEAKING) 56 00:02:58,533 --> 00:03:00,466 (JOURNALIST SPEAKING) 57 00:03:01,233 --> 00:03:03,300 (BUSH SPEAKING) 58 00:03:10,233 --> 00:03:11,465 So it was all over the place. Yeah. 59 00:03:11,466 --> 00:03:14,265 A lot of people read about it, including a guy 60 00:03:14,266 --> 00:03:16,766 who had another domain name called gatt.org. 61 00:03:17,033 --> 00:03:18,332 And, of course, GATT is the 62 00:03:18,333 --> 00:03:20,365 Global Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, 63 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:23,232 and it's the predecessor agreement to the World Trade Organization. 64 00:03:23,233 --> 00:03:25,699 And he said, "If you could do this for Bush, 65 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:28,266 "then maybe you can also do this for the WTO." 66 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:32,665 MICHAEL MOORE: The WTO is supposed to be 67 00:03:32,666 --> 00:03:35,332 sort of a United Nations of commerce, 68 00:03:35,333 --> 00:03:39,399 a conglomeration of all these countries in the world 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,265 uh, that get together every now and then 70 00:03:41,266 --> 00:03:43,565 to discuss trade policies, 71 00:03:43,566 --> 00:03:46,332 and how exactly goods will be bought 72 00:03:46,333 --> 00:03:48,699 and sold throughout the world. 73 00:03:48,700 --> 00:03:50,332 Well, I'm sure, originally, 74 00:03:50,333 --> 00:03:53,399 the stated purpose of the WTO, uh, 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,565 was to help these countries who are developing 76 00:03:56,566 --> 00:03:58,766 so that, you know, the world community 77 00:03:59,033 --> 00:04:01,299 can help raise them out of poverty. 78 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:02,565 In fact, what it's done is, 79 00:04:02,566 --> 00:04:05,399 it's allowed large corporations, uh, 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,699 to go in and exploit these people even further 81 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:11,732 uh, so that Americans become even wealthier 82 00:04:11,733 --> 00:04:13,599 and the people in these countries 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,765 continue to struggle to get by. 84 00:04:15,766 --> 00:04:18,332 And I think that's... 85 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:21,000 At this point it's upset quite a few people. 86 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:38,599 Okay, so I gotta try and remember where Sal lives. 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,465 Um, it's a little bit complicated. 88 00:04:40,466 --> 00:04:44,432 There's, like, this snaking road up over the hills. 89 00:04:44,433 --> 00:04:46,299 BONANNO: And who is Sal? 90 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:50,332 Sal is a friend who I met in San Diego, 91 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:52,365 and, um, he moved to L.A. 92 00:04:52,366 --> 00:04:54,099 to work in the movie industry, 93 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:55,365 and that's why... Now he does, 94 00:04:55,366 --> 00:04:58,499 actually, costuming professionally. 95 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:00,332 He builds, like, weird suits 96 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:03,432 out of, you know, pretty much any material you can imagine. 97 00:05:03,433 --> 00:05:07,000 And so, when we needed a costume, I knew who to call. 98 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:19,300 Yeah, this is it. Yeah. 99 00:05:21,366 --> 00:05:23,665 I'll maybe bring him his mail, actually, 100 00:05:23,666 --> 00:05:25,633 as long as we're at it here. 101 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:28,365 Yeah, I don't like it. Okay. 102 00:05:28,366 --> 00:05:30,499 It looks too much like sex stuff 103 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:32,465 instead of... It's not very modern-looking. 104 00:05:32,466 --> 00:05:33,465 Okay. It's gotta look... 105 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:34,665 Remember, this is the future. 106 00:05:34,666 --> 00:05:36,365 This isn't about, like, straps and stuff. 107 00:05:36,366 --> 00:05:39,365 That's like dungeons and torture in the past. 108 00:05:39,366 --> 00:05:42,365 The costume is a manager's leisure suit. 109 00:05:42,366 --> 00:05:45,465 And the idea is that Hank Hardy Unruh, 110 00:05:45,466 --> 00:05:47,665 the representative from the World Trade Organization, 111 00:05:47,666 --> 00:05:51,532 is going to go and wear this breakaway business suit 112 00:05:51,533 --> 00:05:53,532 that's gonna be pulled off of him 113 00:05:53,533 --> 00:05:56,099 during the middle of the keynote address at the conference. 114 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:57,733 And then, a big inflatable phallus 115 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,665 is going to emerge from this golden suit, 116 00:06:00,666 --> 00:06:02,399 and on the end of it is a TV screen 117 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,500 that he uses to manage sweatshops remotely. 118 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:08,733 The reason we got invited to these things 119 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,499 is we have a website called gatt.org. 120 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:15,199 The gatt.org website looks a lot like the WTO website, 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,399 but it is critical of the WTO. 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,665 Most people, though, who find gatt.org 123 00:06:20,666 --> 00:06:24,165 by searching for the World Trade Organization, 124 00:06:24,166 --> 00:06:27,699 will go without reading it and will send us e-mail directly. 125 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:31,465 So a lot of people ask us weird questions about tariffs and trade, 126 00:06:31,466 --> 00:06:34,265 and we try to answer as accurately as we can. 127 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:36,399 And occasionally invitations come in 128 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,065 from official or, you know, quasi-official organizations 129 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:43,399 asking for opinions or asking us to attend a conference. 130 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,532 And so, when they ask, they really think they're talking to the WTO, 131 00:06:47,533 --> 00:06:51,432 and we respond by giving them what we think they want, 132 00:06:51,433 --> 00:06:53,699 which is the opinions of the WTO 133 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:56,565 as accurately as we can represent them. 134 00:06:56,566 --> 00:06:59,465 You know what I'm thinking, actually, looking at this, 135 00:06:59,466 --> 00:07:02,199 is that maybe this is a zipper. 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,732 Yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. 137 00:07:03,733 --> 00:07:05,765 Then he just unzips it and pulls the thing at the same time. 138 00:07:05,766 --> 00:07:07,732 Oh, that could be really good. Because... 139 00:07:07,733 --> 00:07:09,665 To have it burst out of the Velcro, 140 00:07:09,666 --> 00:07:12,065 it might not be strong enough to... BOTH: Burst out. 141 00:07:12,066 --> 00:07:14,399 And then he'd have to pull it. 142 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,433 Part of the thing that gives us the courage to go to Tampere 143 00:07:20,233 --> 00:07:22,232 with this really absurd suit 144 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:25,065 is that we already went to Salzburg, Austria, 145 00:07:25,066 --> 00:07:26,732 to represent the World Trade Organization 146 00:07:26,733 --> 00:07:29,599 at a conference on tariffs and trade. 147 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,599 And so, there, our representative, 148 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,432 the same guy who is Hank Hardy Unruh here 149 00:07:34,433 --> 00:07:37,465 was Dr. Andreas Bichlbauer there. 150 00:07:37,466 --> 00:07:39,732 And he gave a lecture, uh, that focused 151 00:07:39,733 --> 00:07:44,632 on, basically, doing away with all customs in the name of free trade, 152 00:07:44,633 --> 00:07:47,632 like getting rid of the siesta in Spain and Italy, 153 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:50,765 um, so that business hours could be the same. 154 00:07:50,766 --> 00:07:53,632 In Italy, on the other hand, you have a totally different situation, 155 00:07:53,633 --> 00:07:56,632 in which sleep is 156 00:07:56,633 --> 00:08:00,332 done during the day as much as at night, almost. 157 00:08:00,333 --> 00:08:03,599 And allowing people to sell their votes over the Internet 158 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,632 to the highest bidder so that the barriers to, sort of, free trade 159 00:08:07,633 --> 00:08:09,632 and things like votes were out of the way. 160 00:08:09,633 --> 00:08:11,099 BICHLBAUER: One possible solution 161 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:13,465 is being tested in the field of American politics 162 00:08:13,466 --> 00:08:18,765 to streamline the grotesquely inefficient system of elections. 163 00:08:18,766 --> 00:08:23,565 And Vote-auction.com, in turn, employs only four people 164 00:08:23,566 --> 00:08:25,499 to transmit not merely information, 165 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:29,565 but actual money directly to the consuming voter. 166 00:08:29,566 --> 00:08:32,665 It's a forum for people voluntarily 167 00:08:32,666 --> 00:08:36,665 to offer their vote to the highest bidder. 168 00:08:36,666 --> 00:08:38,532 And despite giving what we thought 169 00:08:38,533 --> 00:08:42,499 was a lecture that would immediately get us booed off stage 170 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:45,265 or, you know, get Bichlbauer maybe even thrown in jail 171 00:08:45,266 --> 00:08:47,532 because people would figure out he was an impostor, 172 00:08:47,533 --> 00:08:49,165 the exact opposite happened. 173 00:08:49,166 --> 00:08:50,733 Everybody was super polite. Nobody... 174 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,733 It didn't seem like everybody even noticed 175 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,233 that what he said was so absurd. 176 00:09:17,533 --> 00:09:19,100 Well, so far... 177 00:09:20,533 --> 00:09:23,565 We thought Bichlbauer would be very extreme 178 00:09:23,566 --> 00:09:27,199 and people would react to it and we'd get shut down, 179 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,232 and nothing of the sort happened. 180 00:09:29,233 --> 00:09:30,499 So... 181 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:32,299 This time, we just have to really push it 182 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:33,499 and make it totally extreme. 183 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:35,699 I mean, we keep trying to push things further 184 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:39,733 to try to really clarify the positions of the WTO 185 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,733 to make them very legible. 186 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,732 It's one back, but this is good. 187 00:09:44,733 --> 00:09:46,666 MAN: Yeah. So... 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,699 Andy. 189 00:09:55,700 --> 00:09:56,766 Andy. 190 00:09:57,733 --> 00:09:59,565 It has a terrible siren. 191 00:09:59,566 --> 00:10:01,300 (SIREN WAILING) 192 00:10:04,733 --> 00:10:06,599 BICHLBAUM: I have to check the web when we get upstairs. 193 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,732 Oh, my God. What are we gonna do about this... 194 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:10,633 We gotta watch the Patrick video. 195 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,732 Um... 196 00:10:12,733 --> 00:10:14,632 It's weird stuff, isn't it? 197 00:10:14,633 --> 00:10:15,565 (BOTH CHUCKLING) 198 00:10:15,566 --> 00:10:17,699 That's one way of putting it. 199 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:18,732 It's really a problem. 200 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:21,065 BICHLBAUM: It seems about the weirdest 201 00:10:21,066 --> 00:10:23,233 I've seen from him ever, I think. 202 00:10:25,733 --> 00:10:27,633 It looks pretty good on this. 203 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,733 Yeah, it's all right. 204 00:10:33,766 --> 00:10:37,765 PATRICK LICHTY: What we have here is that we have our cyber Andy here 205 00:10:37,766 --> 00:10:40,599 who's going to be wearing the suit. 206 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,599 And I'm going to be showing all the different ways 207 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,332 in which the Management Leisure Suit 208 00:10:46,333 --> 00:10:49,465 can be useful in industry today 209 00:10:49,466 --> 00:10:53,132 and maximize leisure potential. 210 00:10:53,133 --> 00:10:55,132 (LAUGHS) 211 00:10:55,133 --> 00:10:58,600 Sometimes I don't think they know what the hell to expect out of me. 212 00:10:59,466 --> 00:11:02,765 What I'll come up with 213 00:11:02,766 --> 00:11:07,700 is frequently not exactly what they had in mind, 214 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,432 but it's, you know, 215 00:11:11,433 --> 00:11:14,165 it fits in perfectly with what they're, 216 00:11:14,166 --> 00:11:16,299 what they're going to do. 217 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:18,665 Well, I mean, I came out of a corporate environment 218 00:11:18,666 --> 00:11:22,632 and a company that I really gave, you know, 219 00:11:22,633 --> 00:11:24,665 a good bit of my soul to 220 00:11:24,666 --> 00:11:27,099 over a long period of time progressively. 221 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:29,733 And there were a lot of downsizings and, of course, 222 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,299 you know, the company I was with 223 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:33,733 I thought was gonna take care of me, you know. 224 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,665 And I realized that the bottom line is the bottom line, 225 00:11:36,666 --> 00:11:41,432 and there really isn't any humanity in corporate structures, 226 00:11:41,433 --> 00:11:45,765 so therefore I hope that maybe being part of the Yes Men 227 00:11:45,766 --> 00:11:50,332 might, in some way, help raise issues about global work issues 228 00:11:50,333 --> 00:11:52,766 and social issues that are being brought about 229 00:11:53,033 --> 00:11:54,766 by globalization, etcetera. 230 00:11:58,033 --> 00:12:00,165 I grew up in the suburbs here, 231 00:12:00,166 --> 00:12:03,532 and then I moved to Troy, uh, 232 00:12:03,533 --> 00:12:06,165 six years ago for a job at the university there, so... 233 00:12:06,166 --> 00:12:08,665 A place there called Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, 234 00:12:08,666 --> 00:12:10,432 and I teach there. 235 00:12:10,433 --> 00:12:12,733 I was moving back home, really, because I'd been away, 236 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,633 I'd been on the West Coast for about 12 years. 237 00:12:16,666 --> 00:12:17,699 WOMAN: Wait, what is this? 238 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:19,733 BONANNO: This is, um, it's this... 239 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,766 SimCopter hack. Here it is. 240 00:12:24,033 --> 00:12:25,766 I wanted to watch this tape 'cause I... 241 00:12:26,033 --> 00:12:28,665 This is the tape... I've been cleaning out the archives, 242 00:12:28,666 --> 00:12:30,332 you know, and I found this tape in there. 243 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:33,766 I met Andy through a friend, actually. A mutual friend. 244 00:12:34,033 --> 00:12:36,766 Actually, two people, that we both knew, 245 00:12:37,033 --> 00:12:38,699 suggested that me and Andy 246 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:40,065 get in contact with one another 247 00:12:40,066 --> 00:12:42,499 because we'd both done similar projects. 248 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:43,699 One of the jobs that I had 249 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:46,732 was at this games company called Maxis 250 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:48,699 that makes SimCity. 251 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:51,199 One of the games they were making at the time 252 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,065 was SimCopter. 253 00:12:53,066 --> 00:12:54,732 I was in charge of the little people 254 00:12:54,733 --> 00:12:56,265 that run around in the game. 255 00:12:56,266 --> 00:12:59,732 And I made them wearing nothing but swim trunks. 256 00:12:59,733 --> 00:13:01,766 They'd all be boys, and they'd be running around 257 00:13:02,033 --> 00:13:03,432 kissing each other. 258 00:13:03,433 --> 00:13:07,065 So all the people who ordered this very popular video game 259 00:13:07,066 --> 00:13:11,199 suddenly were treated to a completely different spectacle. 260 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,399 And so he got a lot of press attention for it, 261 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,099 and it was seen as a kind of, 262 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:16,766 an activist, you know, kind of statement 263 00:13:17,033 --> 00:13:18,232 about video games 264 00:13:18,233 --> 00:13:20,232 and the sort of macho nature of them. 265 00:13:20,233 --> 00:13:22,065 It all involves the unexpected appearance 266 00:13:22,066 --> 00:13:25,765 of some gay, kissing muscle men every Friday the 13th. 267 00:13:25,766 --> 00:13:28,766 He's becoming a celebrity of sorts in the computer world. 268 00:13:29,033 --> 00:13:30,733 Especially the gay computer world. 269 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,765 And then I had done a project using Barbie dolls, 270 00:13:34,766 --> 00:13:37,765 where we switched the voice boxes of Barbie dolls and G.I. Joes. 271 00:13:37,766 --> 00:13:40,232 (RECORDED MALE VOICE) Troops, attack that Cobra jet 272 00:13:40,233 --> 00:13:42,065 with heavy firepower! 273 00:13:42,066 --> 00:13:43,265 (GUNFIRE) 274 00:13:43,266 --> 00:13:45,732 And that ended up in G.I. Joes 275 00:13:45,733 --> 00:13:47,765 that said things like, "I love to shop with you," 276 00:13:47,766 --> 00:13:52,099 and Barbie dolls that said things like, um, "Dead men tell no lies." 277 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:54,499 And we got them back on store shelves, 278 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:58,299 um, all over the country in what we called our "Shop Giving Program." 279 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:00,265 We're like Santa Claus, only less radical, 280 00:14:00,266 --> 00:14:03,432 because Santa Claus breaks into people's houses. We don't do that. 281 00:14:03,433 --> 00:14:05,565 BONANNO: So that when kids got them at Christmas, 282 00:14:05,566 --> 00:14:07,265 they were surprised to find their doll 283 00:14:07,266 --> 00:14:09,733 saying something other than what they expected. 284 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,332 And the kids thought it was hilarious. 285 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:14,099 You know, they loved having these crazy dolls. 286 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:15,432 Uh, we sent out press releases, 287 00:14:15,433 --> 00:14:18,265 so it was in the news on Christmas Day 288 00:14:18,266 --> 00:14:19,733 and for the week following. 289 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,399 It just went through every kind of media channel imaginable. 290 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,765 The BLO. 291 00:14:25,766 --> 00:14:27,399 The mission of the BLO. 292 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,132 The Barbie Liberation Organization, the BLO. 293 00:14:31,133 --> 00:14:32,765 It was real funny 'cause (MAN TRANSLATING IN FRENCH) 294 00:14:32,766 --> 00:14:35,432 it was like "Come on, fight me. Fight me!" 295 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:38,065 Except it says. (RECORDED FEMALE VOICE) I love school. Don't you? 296 00:14:38,066 --> 00:14:40,165 Let's sing with the band tonight! 297 00:14:40,166 --> 00:14:41,766 Now we're, with the Yes Men, 298 00:14:42,033 --> 00:14:45,299 we're calling that sort of basic idea "Identity Correction," 299 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:47,299 like saying, okay, these things... 300 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:50,565 These things that are not really presenting themselves honestly 301 00:14:50,566 --> 00:14:54,299 or that hide something about their nature that's really scary, 302 00:14:54,300 --> 00:14:56,165 we want to, we want to bring that out. 303 00:14:56,166 --> 00:14:57,733 We want to show that. We want to demonstrate that. 304 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,733 And so, like for the WTO, 305 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,132 you know, we think that the WTO 306 00:15:03,133 --> 00:15:05,565 is doing all these terrible things that are hurting people 307 00:15:05,566 --> 00:15:07,465 and they're saying the exact opposite. 308 00:15:07,466 --> 00:15:10,665 And so we're interested in correcting their identity, 309 00:15:10,666 --> 00:15:12,565 in the same way that an identity thief 310 00:15:12,566 --> 00:15:15,065 steals somebody's identity to... 311 00:15:15,066 --> 00:15:18,165 In order to, basically, just engage in criminal practices, 312 00:15:18,166 --> 00:15:20,665 we target people we see as criminals, 313 00:15:20,666 --> 00:15:23,199 and we steal their identity to try to make them honest 314 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,565 or to try to present a more honest face. 315 00:15:25,566 --> 00:15:28,599 And so, you know, I guess this whole thing 316 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,199 has its roots for both me and Andy 317 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,665 in stuff that we've been doing for a long time, 318 00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:35,733 which is trying to create public spectacles 319 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,699 that, in some kind of poetic way, 320 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:42,100 reveal something about our culture that's profoundly a problem. 321 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,600 That must be Sal. 322 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,365 Oh, dude. 323 00:16:01,366 --> 00:16:03,232 Are you okay? 324 00:16:03,233 --> 00:16:05,099 SAL: I got fuckin' lost on that... 325 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:06,532 Oh, no. 326 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:08,065 (LAUGHING) 327 00:16:08,066 --> 00:16:09,732 It's been a long day. 328 00:16:09,733 --> 00:16:11,065 Holy shit! 329 00:16:11,066 --> 00:16:12,365 Oh! 330 00:16:12,366 --> 00:16:17,766 Well, I probably started it in June or July. 331 00:16:18,033 --> 00:16:22,132 So, on and off for a good two to three months. 332 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:26,099 Just a couple more pieces of Velcro, and that'll really be it. 333 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,199 And, yeah, we're... 334 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,099 We're at the end of the line. 335 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:31,099 (BLOWING RASPBERRY) 336 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:32,465 Oh. 337 00:16:32,466 --> 00:16:34,532 Okay, look. So here we're making a list here. 338 00:16:34,533 --> 00:16:37,133 Wednesday we leave for Finland early, 339 00:16:37,466 --> 00:16:40,065 so, Sunday... 340 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,532 Make lecture. 341 00:16:41,533 --> 00:16:43,699 BICHLBAUM: Bigger? Oh, no. That's a big one. 342 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:45,133 PowerPoint. 343 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,500 And then speech. 344 00:16:50,233 --> 00:16:51,200 Finish. 345 00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:58,133 (KEYS CLACKING) 346 00:17:03,133 --> 00:17:05,765 It's 4:03 a.m., 347 00:17:05,766 --> 00:17:10,265 and I guess I'll just keep working until morning. 348 00:17:10,266 --> 00:17:12,265 I feel somewhat awake. 349 00:17:12,266 --> 00:17:15,300 And then Andy can take over again. 350 00:17:16,566 --> 00:17:20,166 We can do around-the-clock shift, I guess. 351 00:17:22,233 --> 00:17:27,166 I'm just trying to add a few slides into the PowerPoint here. 352 00:17:28,133 --> 00:17:30,265 Because, actually, a lot of the things 353 00:17:30,266 --> 00:17:33,733 that, sort of, business leaders of the world 354 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,299 say in relation to these issues 355 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,165 are actually sort of very similar 356 00:17:38,166 --> 00:17:39,632 to what Unruh Hank Hardy says, 357 00:17:39,633 --> 00:17:41,432 even though, maybe, Unruh Hank Hardy 358 00:17:41,433 --> 00:17:43,565 is a little bit more frank about it. 359 00:17:43,566 --> 00:17:46,432 And, in fact, when he talked to CNBC, 360 00:17:46,433 --> 00:17:49,299 when he was debating, an activist, Barry Coates, 361 00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:51,299 just sort of agreed with what he said 362 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:53,299 when he said that this is what the WTO does, 363 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:55,165 and this is our position. 364 00:17:55,166 --> 00:17:56,432 And Barry Coates said, 365 00:17:56,433 --> 00:18:00,233 "Well, that's funny. That's exactly right." 366 00:18:01,133 --> 00:18:04,165 After Salzburg, we got an e-mail 367 00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:08,299 asking a representative of the WTO 368 00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:11,165 to appear on CNBC MarketWrap Europe. 369 00:18:11,166 --> 00:18:13,332 And the producer apparently didn't notice 370 00:18:13,333 --> 00:18:17,266 that gatt.org was not the WTO site. 371 00:18:17,733 --> 00:18:20,665 And Granwyth Hulatberi, 372 00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:24,132 which is another name that Andy just came up with, 373 00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:26,699 responded and, of course, said, 374 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:30,332 "Well, I'd be happy to go on CNBC MarketWrap." 375 00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:33,732 And that producer wanted him to debate 376 00:18:33,733 --> 00:18:36,232 an anti-globalization protester. 377 00:18:36,233 --> 00:18:40,632 If the WTO is serious about addressing 378 00:18:40,633 --> 00:18:42,465 the issues of world poverty, 379 00:18:42,466 --> 00:18:46,199 it would do things completely differently than it is now. 380 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,365 Let me bring in Granwyth on that. 381 00:18:48,366 --> 00:18:50,033 Is that a fair point? 382 00:18:51,066 --> 00:18:52,365 Well, of course it is, 383 00:18:52,366 --> 00:18:53,765 but, you know, I think Barry, 384 00:18:53,766 --> 00:18:55,299 as well as all the other protesters, 385 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:56,765 are simply, in a word, 386 00:18:56,766 --> 00:19:00,199 focused too much on reality and on facts and figures. 387 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,733 And I think I would have to say 388 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,365 that this is a long-term problem 389 00:19:04,366 --> 00:19:06,532 that comes down to a problem of education. 390 00:19:06,533 --> 00:19:08,499 We have to find a way 391 00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:11,265 to convince perhaps not the protesters, 392 00:19:11,266 --> 00:19:13,332 but the protesters' children 393 00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:15,465 to follow thinkers like 394 00:19:15,466 --> 00:19:19,065 Milton Friedman and Darwin and, uh, and so on, 395 00:19:19,066 --> 00:19:22,232 rather than what the protesters have been reared on... 396 00:19:22,233 --> 00:19:25,199 Trotsky and Robespierre and Abbie Hoffman. 397 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,232 And I think that putting the direction of education, 398 00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:31,532 being put into private hands... 399 00:19:31,533 --> 00:19:35,232 A concentration of resources in the private sector 400 00:19:35,233 --> 00:19:37,532 will naturally lead to this result, 401 00:19:37,533 --> 00:19:39,732 and we'll see the protesters' children being reared 402 00:19:39,733 --> 00:19:42,199 with an entirely different set of concerns. 403 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,699 Let me bring you in on that, Barry. 404 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:45,532 I mean, can I just say 405 00:19:45,533 --> 00:19:48,099 that these kind of simplistic arguments 406 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:50,365 are really, I mean, too insulting 407 00:19:50,366 --> 00:19:51,699 to most people to believe. 408 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:54,099 You know, the fact that we have a choice between 409 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:55,632 Milton Friedman or Abbie Hoffman 410 00:19:55,633 --> 00:19:59,399 for where we get our source of economic history and philosophy. 411 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,399 There are many, many thinkers from around the world... 412 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,265 Just not those one's employed by the WTO. 413 00:20:05,266 --> 00:20:08,265 ...that think the World Trade Organization policies 414 00:20:08,266 --> 00:20:11,132 are deeply damaging for the development prospects of the poorest countries. 415 00:20:11,133 --> 00:20:12,766 Let me go out, uh, to Granwyth. 416 00:20:14,566 --> 00:20:18,766 Yes, um, well, I wanted to speak to Granwyth... 417 00:20:19,033 --> 00:20:20,765 Sorry, to Barry's point that there are other thinkers. 418 00:20:20,766 --> 00:20:24,699 Well, who... Who actually has the power in the world 419 00:20:24,700 --> 00:20:28,432 and so who is correct in this kind of world view? 420 00:20:28,433 --> 00:20:30,432 I mean, I think the answer is easy 421 00:20:30,433 --> 00:20:34,265 and if you look at the views held by myself, my oganization 422 00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:38,265 and many, many of the decision makers in the world, 423 00:20:38,266 --> 00:20:42,265 the powerful people they happen to coincide with what I'm explaining 424 00:20:42,266 --> 00:20:46,299 and I think, this is enough in this sort of view. 425 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:49,432 So... I mean, what we have here is a picture of 426 00:20:49,433 --> 00:20:52,465 the rich and powerful people believe a certain philosophy 427 00:20:52,466 --> 00:20:56,099 which they then propound through the institutions 428 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:57,299 in which they have a powerful voice. 429 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,599 And I think this is exactly the model 430 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,432 that is being questioned and increasingly what there is, 431 00:21:04,433 --> 00:21:08,432 is a very large body of people who are concerned about these rules. 432 00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:11,565 The people on the streets of Janeiro or in Seattle 433 00:21:11,566 --> 00:21:14,099 are not representative of the overall movement. 434 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:17,332 They are at the tip of the iceberg. We did the study last year 435 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,599 that looked across developing countries 436 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,599 and found that in the space of one year in 50 protests 437 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,699 more than a million people from developing countries 438 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:28,465 were out trying to change the rules 439 00:21:28,466 --> 00:21:30,632 that were being imposed on them by the World Bank 440 00:21:30,633 --> 00:21:33,332 and the IMF and locked down through the World Trade Organization. 441 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:34,732 All right. Thank you. We must finish unfortunately. 442 00:21:34,733 --> 00:21:36,499 Barry Coates thank you actually for joining us. Thank you. 443 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:38,365 And also Granwyth Hulatberi. 444 00:21:38,366 --> 00:21:40,333 And also Vern and Alice on the line from New York. 445 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,333 (SPEAKING FRENCH) 446 00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:08,566 Um, section three. 447 00:22:11,666 --> 00:22:13,332 Well... 448 00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:17,532 This isn't exactly a garbage bag but it's, uh... 449 00:22:17,533 --> 00:22:18,733 It'll work. 450 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,733 Yeah? You think, this is very business-like? 451 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,532 It's like, it's very official... 452 00:22:25,533 --> 00:22:27,665 (WOMAN TALKING INDISTINCTLY) Very big money. 453 00:22:27,666 --> 00:22:29,465 Okay, good. That's what I need. 454 00:22:29,466 --> 00:22:31,433 I need a big money watch. 455 00:22:33,033 --> 00:22:37,665 SALMONE: So, are you as nervous as you were for, uh, Salzburg? 456 00:22:37,666 --> 00:22:42,733 The thing is like, even with the Salzburg thing we went into it like... 457 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,665 Sort of, I mean we went there really nervous but the whole time kind of... 458 00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:49,365 It doesn't... It doesn't really sink in till you're actually there. 459 00:22:49,366 --> 00:22:50,665 Right. 460 00:22:50,666 --> 00:22:52,432 SALMONE: Well, I think it's good you guys, like, 461 00:22:52,433 --> 00:22:54,532 from what I've seen of the speech 462 00:22:54,533 --> 00:22:57,565 it kind of starts out the most normal that is. BONANNO: Yeah. 463 00:22:57,566 --> 00:23:00,199 So it'll help... He can get comfortable when people... 464 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,700 He can sort of like slowly work his way up into it. 465 00:23:05,566 --> 00:23:07,433 You son of a fucking bitch. 466 00:23:09,533 --> 00:23:11,500 (CLICKS TONGUE) Shit. 467 00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:14,065 Do you have a rag? 468 00:23:14,066 --> 00:23:15,432 BONANNO: Uh... Fuck. 469 00:23:15,433 --> 00:23:17,565 Fuck, uh, shit, um... 470 00:23:17,566 --> 00:23:20,500 I have one with that has shoe polish on it but that's not right, right? 471 00:23:23,066 --> 00:23:24,399 The screen get a little paint on it? 472 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,700 Yeah. 473 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,532 Hmm. 474 00:23:30,533 --> 00:23:32,766 (WHIRRING) 475 00:23:33,033 --> 00:23:34,532 It sounds like a lawn mower. 476 00:23:34,533 --> 00:23:36,500 It's a little loud, yeah. 477 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,699 Mmm. That's not good. Forget it. 478 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:40,500 (WHIRRING CONTINUES) 479 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,532 Uh-oh. Look, it made a new noise. 480 00:23:50,533 --> 00:23:52,232 Good, good, good. Great. 481 00:23:52,233 --> 00:23:53,699 Is that great? Try it. 482 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:55,266 And it doesn't work now. 483 00:23:55,633 --> 00:23:56,599 Oh, listen. Yes. 484 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,266 Okay. (LAUGHS) 485 00:23:59,733 --> 00:24:01,033 (LAUGHS) 486 00:24:07,433 --> 00:24:09,566 (SPEAKING FRENCH) 487 00:24:12,466 --> 00:24:14,633 Okay, 10 minutes. They're both here. 488 00:24:15,466 --> 00:24:16,600 Phew. 489 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:18,666 Hey, Sal. 490 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,133 Thanks. 491 00:24:22,466 --> 00:24:24,066 (LAUGHS) 492 00:24:25,466 --> 00:24:27,099 We'll see how it goes. Thanks for everything. 493 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,533 Yeah. Sleep good and have a good time here. 494 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,499 Yeah. Enjoy. 495 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:32,499 See you soon. 496 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:35,099 Move into my room. Have enjoyment. 497 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,466 Okay. (LAUGHS) 498 00:24:38,766 --> 00:24:40,265 Is this everything? 499 00:24:40,266 --> 00:24:41,533 Wow. Look how efficient. 500 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,632 Okay. 501 00:24:43,633 --> 00:24:45,099 (GRUNTS) 502 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,533 Efficient. A model of efficiency right here. 503 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,765 You have some crap on your face right here. 504 00:24:52,766 --> 00:24:54,466 No, no, over here. 505 00:24:55,633 --> 00:24:56,500 Looks better. 506 00:25:03,633 --> 00:25:05,500 (TALKING INDISTINCTLY) 507 00:25:23,666 --> 00:25:25,466 (MUSIC PLAYING ON STEREO) 508 00:25:29,533 --> 00:25:31,632 BONANNO: We arrived last night, 509 00:25:31,633 --> 00:25:33,532 you had to take a nap. You had to get some sleep. 510 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:34,665 BICHLBAUM: Oh, I just crashed, yeah. 511 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:37,132 And, uh, I went 512 00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:38,733 and basically scoped out the lecture site. 513 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,232 There was a sign on the door that said, 514 00:25:41,233 --> 00:25:42,732 "Textiles of the future, 515 00:25:42,733 --> 00:25:46,532 "Unruh Hank Hardy was the first speaker. Hank Hardy Unruh." 516 00:25:46,533 --> 00:25:48,766 And, um, you know, it all looked sort of official. 517 00:25:49,033 --> 00:25:51,733 The coffee cups were out for the morning. 518 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,532 So, I thought, this is great. I'm all ready, 519 00:25:53,533 --> 00:25:55,165 I know exactly where it is. 520 00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:56,699 We can go there. I had a time... 521 00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,165 Like set up a little time table and I got them, you know, 522 00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:02,766 maps of the thing, and all the updated conference information. 523 00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:05,665 Um, came back here, 524 00:26:05,666 --> 00:26:06,665 then we went to sleep early, 525 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:09,699 but Hank was snoring immediately. 526 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:11,766 But I wasn't able to sleep at all, really. 527 00:26:12,033 --> 00:26:13,766 I just like stayed there awake in bed 528 00:26:14,033 --> 00:26:17,265 and occasionally going to bathroom and turn on the light and read brochures, 529 00:26:17,266 --> 00:26:20,565 because I was like, just unable to sleep. 530 00:26:20,566 --> 00:26:23,500 And eventually, I think I fell asleep just before waking up. 531 00:26:27,566 --> 00:26:29,166 Great. 532 00:26:31,733 --> 00:26:33,766 So, I'm leaving my wallet here. 533 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,066 Okay, let's go. 534 00:26:42,566 --> 00:26:44,365 It's 8:00. 535 00:26:44,366 --> 00:26:46,133 I think I really will leave it here. 536 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,666 Aren't you coming? 537 00:26:58,433 --> 00:27:00,566 Hank, it was a little early to get up. 538 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,599 It's all right. 539 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,599 I mean, I thought this was vacation. 540 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,232 (SNIFFS) Like, what? 541 00:27:06,233 --> 00:27:07,600 Vacation. I know. 542 00:27:08,633 --> 00:27:10,733 They take me to Finland... 543 00:27:16,733 --> 00:27:19,365 Let me take care of this egg for you. I'll just peel it. 544 00:27:19,366 --> 00:27:21,099 That would be nice, thank you. 545 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,666 Mmm-hmm. 546 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,065 Well, you know, we're a bit behind schedule. 547 00:27:28,066 --> 00:27:30,599 Are we? Well, little bit. It's after 8:00. 548 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,699 And I really wanted to be at the venue at 8:00. 549 00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:35,765 Okay. But we're doing fine anyway. 550 00:27:35,766 --> 00:27:36,765 Is it after 8:00? 551 00:27:36,766 --> 00:27:38,300 It is after 8:00. Yeah. 552 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,600 You know, pretend like... 553 00:27:52,133 --> 00:27:53,300 Huh. Great. 554 00:27:54,166 --> 00:27:55,700 We're early. Ah. Good. 555 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,765 Hello. 556 00:27:59,766 --> 00:28:01,699 I'm Hank Hardy Unruh. I'm from the... 557 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:03,099 Oh, great. 558 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:04,399 Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 559 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,765 We were expecting you. 560 00:28:05,766 --> 00:28:06,566 Oh, good. (LAUGHS) 561 00:28:07,633 --> 00:28:09,733 It's not 9:30, no? It's 8:30, right? 562 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,299 Um. Uh, but you will have a... 563 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:14,399 It's 8:30 now. 8:30. 564 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,633 Is it? It... 565 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:19,265 It is... It's 9:30. 566 00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:20,332 Now? Yes. 567 00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:21,733 No. Yeah. 568 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,765 The time is 9:30? 569 00:28:22,766 --> 00:28:24,265 Yes. Yeah. Almost. 570 00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:27,099 I'm on at... Well, it's 9:27 at the moment. 571 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,300 Oh, my God. We're an hour off. 572 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:30,733 Oh, my God. Thank you. 573 00:28:31,033 --> 00:28:32,165 Okay. 574 00:28:32,166 --> 00:28:33,766 Well, we have to... Anyhow. 575 00:28:34,033 --> 00:28:35,065 We're starting... 576 00:28:35,066 --> 00:28:36,766 Do they know that he's going on now? 577 00:28:37,033 --> 00:28:39,699 Uh, yeah. Well, perhaps he knows that and was expecting. 578 00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:40,766 Oh, geez. Okay. 579 00:28:41,033 --> 00:28:42,333 Okay, we... 580 00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:47,766 Are you coming too? Have you registered? 581 00:28:48,033 --> 00:28:49,732 Um, I'm his... I'm his assistant. 582 00:28:49,733 --> 00:28:52,199 And this also. We're both working with him. 583 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,700 We have to go take care of a few things now. 584 00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:56,699 BOTH: Okay. 585 00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:57,665 Would you like to join the dinner? 586 00:28:57,666 --> 00:28:59,199 Uh, yes, please. 587 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,733 Uh, or is there a fee or... 588 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,499 Uh, no, it's included. 589 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,766 Okay, yes. We'll... We'll join the dinner. That looks great. 590 00:29:05,033 --> 00:29:06,399 Um... Uh... 591 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,299 Wow. Well, we must hurry, I guess. 592 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:10,766 So, please yes. 593 00:29:12,733 --> 00:29:14,732 Um, actually no, you can't go in right now, 594 00:29:14,733 --> 00:29:17,065 'cause you have to first take care of that business. 595 00:29:17,066 --> 00:29:18,332 See we're an hour... 596 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,065 We did... We'll be five... 597 00:29:20,066 --> 00:29:21,065 We had an hour off so... 598 00:29:21,066 --> 00:29:23,365 I have to do something, um... Yes. 599 00:29:23,366 --> 00:29:25,065 He has to make a very important phone call right now. 600 00:29:25,066 --> 00:29:26,365 It'll take five minutes. 601 00:29:26,366 --> 00:29:28,065 Five minutes? Yes. 602 00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:30,065 But, uh... But you will have your presentation 603 00:29:30,066 --> 00:29:31,365 starting off in two minutes. 604 00:29:31,366 --> 00:29:33,733 Yes, please tell him that I'll be three minutes late. 605 00:29:39,766 --> 00:29:41,766 There is a detail. 606 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,065 Jesus. Fuck. 607 00:29:44,066 --> 00:29:45,765 How come we didn't know that? 608 00:29:45,766 --> 00:29:47,400 That's really incredible. 609 00:29:48,466 --> 00:29:49,732 Come on. 610 00:29:49,733 --> 00:29:51,400 Okay. Now. 611 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:54,599 UNRUH: Jesus. This is terrible. 612 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,033 This is the stupidest. I can't... 613 00:29:58,333 --> 00:30:00,733 It's an hour's difference. The time zone is different here. 614 00:30:02,066 --> 00:30:03,566 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) 615 00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:05,232 Unbelievable. 616 00:30:05,233 --> 00:30:07,465 How the fuck can that happen? 617 00:30:07,466 --> 00:30:10,232 BONANNO: Okay. Here. That's done. Now, you tape them in. 618 00:30:10,233 --> 00:30:13,066 Okay. Now quick. The shirt. The underwear. 619 00:30:14,766 --> 00:30:15,733 Gold underwear. 620 00:30:16,366 --> 00:30:17,466 Okay. 621 00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:20,765 BONANNO: Does that... Do I have to put something through this? 622 00:30:20,766 --> 00:30:22,765 No. Okay, uh... 623 00:30:22,766 --> 00:30:24,133 Mmm-hmm. 624 00:30:25,766 --> 00:30:26,732 Your testicles hanging out? 625 00:30:26,733 --> 00:30:28,099 Uh, yeah. 626 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,300 Okay. 627 00:30:30,066 --> 00:30:31,233 Okay. 628 00:30:33,266 --> 00:30:34,733 Okay, great. 629 00:30:36,733 --> 00:30:38,265 Oh, God. 630 00:30:38,266 --> 00:30:40,532 Okay. Great. 631 00:30:40,533 --> 00:30:42,099 Let's go. Now air in it. 632 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,000 Okay, now the pants. 633 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,100 Oh, hi. Nice to meet you. I'm so sorry. 634 00:30:53,466 --> 00:30:55,000 (SPEAKING ENGLISH) 635 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,132 Thank you. (LAUGHS) 636 00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:13,000 I'm terribly... What? 637 00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:16,066 Yes. I have a presentation. 638 00:31:18,133 --> 00:31:20,132 I'm terribly sorry. 639 00:31:20,133 --> 00:31:24,066 Uh, I think the World Trade Organization is supposed to know about time zones but... 640 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,132 Somebody said, "Isn't there a time difference?" 641 00:31:28,133 --> 00:31:32,065 And I said, "No. All of Europe, same time zone." 642 00:31:32,066 --> 00:31:34,766 (LAUGHS) So, that convinced us all. 643 00:31:35,033 --> 00:31:36,432 And we were convinced, that it was Me too. 644 00:31:36,433 --> 00:31:38,766 the right time when we woke up this morning. 645 00:31:39,033 --> 00:31:41,733 And we were running... We were running five or 10 minutes late. 646 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,432 And then figured out that, you know, the laptop wasn't working. 647 00:31:46,433 --> 00:31:48,565 UNRUH: No, maybe we could switch the order. 648 00:31:48,566 --> 00:31:50,733 Can we have somebody else go and then I go later? 649 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,132 And they said, "Okay, I think we can do that." 650 00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:54,699 And then they called the coffee people 651 00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:57,665 and they talked to the coffee people to see if the coffee was possible. 652 00:31:57,666 --> 00:31:59,100 BICHLBAUM: That was it. 653 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:13,433 Thank you very much. 654 00:33:14,066 --> 00:33:15,765 It's this one. 655 00:33:15,766 --> 00:33:19,732 Um, it's quite an honor to be here in Tampere addressing this audience 656 00:33:19,733 --> 00:33:23,633 of the most outstanding textile workers in the world today. 657 00:33:25,066 --> 00:33:27,232 I see on all the faces here today, 658 00:33:27,233 --> 00:33:29,365 a touching childlike eagerness 659 00:33:29,366 --> 00:33:32,400 to tackle the biggest textiles questions in the world. 660 00:33:33,366 --> 00:33:35,565 How do we at the WTO fit in? 661 00:33:35,566 --> 00:33:37,232 What we want to do at the WTO 662 00:33:37,233 --> 00:33:40,265 is help you achieve your dollar results. 663 00:33:40,266 --> 00:33:42,532 And in just 20 minutes from now, 664 00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:47,132 I'm going to show you, the WTO's very own solution 665 00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:50,565 to two of the very biggest problems in management. 666 00:33:50,566 --> 00:33:54,132 One, maintaining rapport with distant workforce 667 00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:58,265 and two, maintaining helpful amounts of leisure. 668 00:33:58,266 --> 00:34:01,633 This solution appropriately enough is based in textiles. 669 00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:09,165 Uh, but how did workers ever get to be a problem? 670 00:34:09,166 --> 00:34:13,199 Before unveiling our solution, I'd like to talk about a bit of history 671 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,699 of the worker management problem. 672 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:19,665 Uh, we all know about the American Civil War at least in the US. 673 00:34:19,666 --> 00:34:24,132 Uh, it was the bloodiest, least profitable war in the history of our country. 674 00:34:24,133 --> 00:34:28,399 A war in which unbelievably huge amounts of money went right down the drain 675 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,199 and all for textiles. 676 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,699 By the 1860s the South was utterly flush with cash. 677 00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:37,132 It'd recently benefited from the cotton gin. 678 00:34:37,133 --> 00:34:39,599 An invention that took the seeds out of cotton 679 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,132 and the South out of its preindustrial past. 680 00:34:43,133 --> 00:34:44,565 Hundreds of thousands of workers 681 00:34:44,566 --> 00:34:47,332 previously unemployed in their countries of origin 682 00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:50,199 were given useful jobs in textiles. 683 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,500 Into this rosy picture of freedom and boon stepped, you guessed it, 684 00:34:54,166 --> 00:34:55,732 "The North." 685 00:34:55,733 --> 00:35:00,299 Now some Civil War apologists have said that the Civil War for all its faults 686 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:02,199 at least had the effect of outlawing 687 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,332 an involuntarily imported workforce model of work. 688 00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:08,265 Now, this model is, of course a terrible thing. 689 00:35:08,266 --> 00:35:10,299 I myself am an abolitionist. 690 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:14,465 But, uh, in fact, there is no doubt, that left to their own devices, 691 00:35:14,466 --> 00:35:19,166 markets would have eventually replaced slavery with cleaner sources of labor. 692 00:35:19,766 --> 00:35:21,699 To prove my point, 693 00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:25,233 please join me on what Albert Einstein used to call a thought experiment. 694 00:35:26,766 --> 00:35:31,165 Suppose, involuntarily imported labor had never been outlawed. 695 00:35:31,166 --> 00:35:34,499 That slaves still existed, and that it were easy to own one. 696 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:38,632 What do you think, it would cost today to profitably maintain a slave 697 00:35:38,633 --> 00:35:41,232 say here in Tampere? 698 00:35:41,233 --> 00:35:46,165 Let's see, a finished clothing set costs $50 at the very least. 699 00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:49,765 Uh, two meals from McDonalds, uh, costs about $10. 700 00:35:49,766 --> 00:35:54,065 The cheapest small room probably runs for about $250 a month. 701 00:35:54,066 --> 00:35:56,532 To function well, you have to pay for your slaves health care. 702 00:35:56,533 --> 00:35:59,365 If its country of origin was polluted for example 703 00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:01,365 that might run very expensively. 704 00:36:01,366 --> 00:36:03,699 And of course, with child labor laws here in Finland, 705 00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:06,533 uh, much of the youth market is simply not available. 706 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:12,232 Now leave the, uh, same slave back at home, let's say, Gabon. 707 00:36:12,233 --> 00:36:16,265 In Gabon $10 pays for two weeks of food. 708 00:36:16,266 --> 00:36:21,265 Two hundred and fifty dollars pays for two years of housing not a month at best. 709 00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:24,766 Uh, $50 pays for a lifetime of budget clothing 710 00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:28,365 and health care is, of course, cheaper and on top of it all 711 00:36:28,366 --> 00:36:31,699 youth can be gainfully employed without restriction. 712 00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:34,265 The biggest benefit of the remote labor system though 713 00:36:34,266 --> 00:36:36,399 is to the slave him or herself. 714 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,766 Because in Gabon, there is no need for the slave not to be free. 715 00:36:41,033 --> 00:36:45,232 This is primarily because there are no one-time slave transport costs to recoup 716 00:36:45,233 --> 00:36:47,399 and so the potential losses from fleeing 717 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,565 are limited to the slave's rudimentary training. 718 00:36:50,566 --> 00:36:52,699 So, since the slave can be free, 719 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:56,432 he or she suddenly becomes a worker rather than a slave. 720 00:36:56,433 --> 00:37:00,265 Also terrific for morale is that slaves, workers 721 00:37:00,266 --> 00:37:02,565 have the luxury of remaining in their native habitat 722 00:37:02,566 --> 00:37:05,332 and don't have to relocate to places where they would be subject to 723 00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:09,699 such unpleasantries as home sickness and racism. 724 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:13,132 I think it's clear from our little thought experiment 725 00:37:13,133 --> 00:37:16,399 that if the North and South had let the market sort it out 726 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,399 without protectionist tariffs 727 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,265 they would have quickly given up slavery 728 00:37:20,266 --> 00:37:22,599 for something more efficient anyhow. 729 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,699 By forcing the issue, 730 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,733 the North not only committed a terrible injustice against the freedom of the South 731 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,733 but also deprived slavery of its natural development into remote labor. 732 00:37:34,733 --> 00:37:37,599 Had the leaders of the 1860s United States understood 733 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,599 what our leaders understand today, 734 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,465 the Civil War would have never happened. 735 00:37:42,466 --> 00:37:44,465 In a world where the headquarters of a company 736 00:37:44,466 --> 00:37:48,299 might be in New York, Honk Kong, or Espoo Finland 737 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:52,599 and the workers are in Gabon, Rangoon, or Estonia. 738 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,765 How does the manager maintain proper rapport with the workers 739 00:37:55,766 --> 00:37:59,299 and how does he or she ensure from a distance that workers perform their work 740 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:00,466 in an ethical fashion? 741 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,465 I'm about to show you an actual prototype 742 00:38:04,466 --> 00:38:09,099 of the WTO's solution to two major management problems of today. 743 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,299 Now, we all know that, not even the best workplace design can help 744 00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:15,733 even the most astute manager keep track of workers. 745 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,465 What you need is a solution that enables complete rapport with workers 746 00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:23,566 especially when they are located far away. 747 00:38:24,766 --> 00:38:26,533 Mike, would you help me a moment? 748 00:38:41,466 --> 00:38:43,300 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 749 00:38:49,633 --> 00:38:50,632 Thank you. 750 00:38:50,633 --> 00:38:54,765 This is much better. Much more comfortable. 751 00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:59,399 This is the WTO's answer to two of the major management problems 752 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,532 and we're calling it "The Management Leisure Suit." 753 00:39:02,533 --> 00:39:05,132 It's a... The two problems again, 754 00:39:05,133 --> 00:39:07,665 how to maintain close rapport with distant workers 755 00:39:07,666 --> 00:39:12,532 and how to remain comfortable and increase leisure activities. 756 00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:15,532 How does the, uh, Management Leisure Suit work? 757 00:39:15,533 --> 00:39:18,733 Besides being extremely comfortable, as I can guarantee you. 758 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,666 Well, allow me to describe the Suit's core features. 759 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,166 (AIR HISSING) 760 00:39:39,166 --> 00:39:40,433 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 761 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:47,166 (AIR HISSING) 762 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,633 This... This... 763 00:39:51,066 --> 00:39:53,065 Is the EVA. 764 00:39:53,066 --> 00:39:56,699 The Employee Visualization Appendage. 765 00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:02,066 It's an instantly deployable hip-mounted device with totally handsfree operation 766 00:40:03,533 --> 00:40:07,699 that allows the manager to see his employees directly right here. 767 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:11,766 Signals communicating the exact amount and quality of physical work 768 00:40:12,033 --> 00:40:14,532 are transmitted not only visually right here 769 00:40:14,533 --> 00:40:16,432 but directly through electric channels 770 00:40:16,433 --> 00:40:19,165 implanted directly into the manager. 771 00:40:19,166 --> 00:40:21,599 Uh, the workers, for their part, are fitted with 772 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,599 corresponding transmitting chips 773 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,599 that are implanted humanely directly into the shoulder. 774 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,432 But the other equally important achievement of the MLS 775 00:40:31,433 --> 00:40:33,565 has to do with leisure. 776 00:40:33,566 --> 00:40:34,599 In the United States 777 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,465 leisure, another word for freedom really, 778 00:40:37,466 --> 00:40:41,099 has, uh, been decreasing steadily since the 1970s. 779 00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:42,599 The "Management Leisure Suit" 780 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,532 permits the manager to reverse this trend 781 00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:47,199 by letting him do his work anywhere 782 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,432 while remaining in complete touch with the workers. 783 00:40:50,433 --> 00:40:54,465 Physically sensing what's going on in the workforce on the floor 784 00:40:54,466 --> 00:40:57,099 through channels implanted directly into the manager. 785 00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:00,165 Again the manager sees the employees 786 00:41:00,166 --> 00:41:03,565 but also feels what they're feeling and can select 787 00:41:03,566 --> 00:41:06,133 where to focus in the workplace environment. 788 00:41:07,433 --> 00:41:10,099 So, in conclusion 789 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:13,466 I'd like to ask "Is this a science fiction scenario?" 790 00:41:14,466 --> 00:41:15,533 (CHUCKLING) 791 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,433 The answer is "no." 792 00:41:21,433 --> 00:41:23,099 Everything we've seen here, 793 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:26,599 everything we've been talking about is entirely possible today. 794 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,732 We can always look forward on the highways of progress, 795 00:41:29,733 --> 00:41:33,465 towards ever new horizons with cooperation 796 00:41:33,466 --> 00:41:36,565 and mutual delight in the fruits of prosperity. 797 00:41:36,566 --> 00:41:38,332 I'm very excited to be here. 798 00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:39,599 Thank you very much. 799 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,233 (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) 800 00:42:05,666 --> 00:42:08,566 Something we're trying to do more and more as... Yeah. 801 00:42:29,566 --> 00:42:31,699 I wasn't depressed by people not reacting. 802 00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,665 I wasn't depressed by people just swallowing it and not asking questions. 803 00:42:34,666 --> 00:42:36,699 Because I thought, "Well, that shows 804 00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,565 "that you need some sort of control." 805 00:42:39,566 --> 00:42:40,699 Because here you can, you know, 806 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:42,499 the WTO, me, 807 00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:44,665 can come in and say these amazingly hideous things 808 00:42:44,666 --> 00:42:46,765 to this group of the most educated people, 809 00:42:46,766 --> 00:42:51,165 like the top .1%, education-wise, people in the entire world 810 00:42:51,166 --> 00:42:52,766 in a developed country like Finland... 811 00:42:53,033 --> 00:42:55,399 These people all have PhDs or advanced degrees 812 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,665 and you can say the most atrocious things 813 00:42:57,666 --> 00:42:59,665 and nobody will really react 814 00:42:59,666 --> 00:43:01,199 and nobody will really care. 815 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,265 It's like, you know, what can... 816 00:43:03,266 --> 00:43:05,300 What can't corporations get away with? 817 00:43:10,033 --> 00:43:11,699 (BELL DINGING) 818 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,533 (WOMAN ANNOUNCING IN SWEDISH) 819 00:43:14,566 --> 00:43:16,000 Mmm. 820 00:43:18,366 --> 00:43:19,599 MAN: So, where are we? 821 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,299 Well, we're arriving in Helsinki right now. 822 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:25,199 Um, we left the conference this morning. 823 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,565 It was just, um... 824 00:43:26,566 --> 00:43:28,565 It had just driven us completely mad. 825 00:43:28,566 --> 00:43:30,299 (CHUCKLING) After dinner last night we... 826 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:32,599 I think we had had our fill at dinner. 827 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,599 I had to actually leave a little bit early. 828 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,732 I went over to the table where Unruh... 829 00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:43,299 Where Hanky Hardy had to sit with the big man and eat. 830 00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:45,665 And I told them that we needed to leave 831 00:43:45,666 --> 00:43:47,599 because we had a telephone meeting 832 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,666 with Mobutu Oblongatu immediately. 833 00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:52,732 (ALL LAUGHING) 834 00:43:52,733 --> 00:43:54,399 Great. Hi! 835 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,632 Sorry, but in a minute 836 00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:57,632 we're supposed to meet Manduka Javango. 837 00:43:57,633 --> 00:43:59,732 Oh, God! At 10:00. 838 00:43:59,733 --> 00:44:01,399 And then we both started laughing 839 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,099 which is really not convenient for the context. 840 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,765 So, we left and then we just decided that basically like... 841 00:44:08,766 --> 00:44:13,399 We couldn't figure out what else we could possibly do at this conference. 842 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,000 So, we just thought, "Well, let's go to Helsinki instead." 843 00:44:18,266 --> 00:44:20,632 So, this is the paper. On the front page, uh... 844 00:44:20,633 --> 00:44:22,265 Just discovered it. 845 00:44:22,266 --> 00:44:25,632 It says "There's a seminar at the university 846 00:44:25,633 --> 00:44:29,732 "and, um, that somebody talked about controlling remote workers 847 00:44:29,733 --> 00:44:31,632 "with electrical impulsions." 848 00:44:31,633 --> 00:44:32,733 Impulse, yeah. 849 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,033 And then you turn to the page. 850 00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:38,632 And that's what you get. 851 00:44:38,633 --> 00:44:42,132 BONANNO: And this, right here represents 852 00:44:42,133 --> 00:44:44,200 the World Trade Organization. 853 00:44:44,733 --> 00:44:45,765 This... 854 00:44:45,766 --> 00:44:47,265 This is This is 855 00:44:47,266 --> 00:44:49,700 the World Trade Organization. the World Trade Organization. 856 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,665 MOORE: I went down to this Mexican border towns in the mid '80s. 857 00:44:58,666 --> 00:44:59,733 They were called maquiladoras. 858 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,765 And when they first had, you know, this sort of 859 00:45:01,766 --> 00:45:05,765 the first trade agreements between Mexico and the United States. 860 00:45:05,766 --> 00:45:08,733 And everyone was saying "Oh, this is gonna raise Mexico out of poverty 861 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,665 "and things are gonna be so great 862 00:45:10,666 --> 00:45:14,399 "and within 10 years they'd all be driving shiny new cars in Mexico." 863 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,699 And I went down there and saw this... The incredible poverty 864 00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:21,432 in these Mexican border towns. 865 00:45:21,433 --> 00:45:22,699 15 years later I went back. 866 00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:24,699 Not a damn thing had changed. 867 00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:28,733 Here's all these workers working for all these American corporations. 868 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,532 And you just go across the street 869 00:45:31,533 --> 00:45:34,332 and you found people living in the same horrid conditions. 870 00:45:34,333 --> 00:45:36,766 The same poverty existing. 871 00:45:37,033 --> 00:45:40,299 And you have to ask "Well, who is benefiting from this?" 872 00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:42,732 Well, who benefited were these American corporations. 873 00:45:42,733 --> 00:45:45,699 During the 1990s they became even more wealthy. 874 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,665 They posted a record profit, larger record profits. 875 00:45:48,666 --> 00:45:51,532 And the people of Mexico just continue to suffer. 876 00:45:51,533 --> 00:45:53,766 It's all a big scam. 877 00:46:00,466 --> 00:46:02,733 (RADIO PLAYING) 878 00:46:11,366 --> 00:46:12,699 BONANNO: This is the one? 879 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:14,332 No. (EXHALING) 880 00:46:14,333 --> 00:46:16,000 You got the wrong one. 881 00:46:16,433 --> 00:46:18,732 Shit! 882 00:46:18,733 --> 00:46:20,465 Will WTO stand up? BICHLBAUM: Oh, yeah. 883 00:46:20,466 --> 00:46:23,065 Oh, my God! It's got pictures. They're nice. 884 00:46:23,066 --> 00:46:24,766 You see... Yeah, they actually look okay. 885 00:46:25,033 --> 00:46:26,565 at that size. Bichlbaum isn't an employee... 886 00:46:26,566 --> 00:46:29,332 Wow, but he plays one on TV. 887 00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:32,332 BONANNO: Yeah, this is basically the core of what we do. 888 00:46:32,333 --> 00:46:35,700 All of these newspapers and magazines have articles 889 00:46:36,366 --> 00:46:37,499 on the Yes Men. 890 00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,232 And this is why we are doing these things. 891 00:46:41,233 --> 00:46:43,099 This is why we go and do these conferences. 892 00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,532 This is not for the 200 people or the 100 people 893 00:46:45,533 --> 00:46:48,099 that might see us give the lecture. 894 00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:49,532 Although we like them 895 00:46:49,533 --> 00:46:51,732 to come away with an interesting experience from the lecture. 896 00:46:51,733 --> 00:46:53,765 The reason we do it 897 00:46:53,766 --> 00:46:56,765 is so that people who read Bizzarre magazine 898 00:46:56,766 --> 00:47:00,732 or the New York Times or Fortune or Harper's can read about it 899 00:47:00,733 --> 00:47:02,232 in the mainstream press. 900 00:47:02,233 --> 00:47:04,232 I mean this is how millions of people 901 00:47:04,233 --> 00:47:06,232 can read about it and potentially 902 00:47:06,233 --> 00:47:10,100 get turned on to some of the ideas of anti-globalization. 903 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,765 One of the problems with the Fortune thing is that 904 00:47:14,766 --> 00:47:16,599 it's in this, this, uh... 905 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,765 Well, Fortune, it's like read by business people 906 00:47:19,766 --> 00:47:22,132 and accountants and that kind of thing. 907 00:47:22,133 --> 00:47:24,766 And that's exactly who we're um, 908 00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:28,499 supposed to be talking to in Australia in May. 909 00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:31,132 It's an accounting conference. 910 00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,300 It's a little, little worrisome. 911 00:47:44,533 --> 00:47:45,733 You need a new shirt. 912 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,265 And one that's not wrinkled. Yeah. 913 00:47:47,266 --> 00:47:50,265 Will that be good with your, um, thing? Oh, yeah. 914 00:47:50,266 --> 00:47:51,733 Do you think it'll work with your suit? Yeah. 915 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,399 This one's extra-large. Yeah, they'll all work with my suit. 916 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,665 It's terrible. 917 00:47:55,666 --> 00:47:58,766 It's striped though. Is that okay? Yeah. 918 00:47:59,033 --> 00:48:01,132 I'm sure it's okay. I mean, why don't you go get a shirt then? 919 00:48:01,133 --> 00:48:02,299 I'll just get this. Wait. Yeah. 920 00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:04,766 It's co... Oh, it's not very much cotton. 921 00:48:05,033 --> 00:48:06,665 How much is that? I hate that. 922 00:48:06,666 --> 00:48:09,299 35. It's 35%. It's like... 923 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:10,733 No, it's fine... It doesn't wrinkle much then. 924 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,165 That's nice about that. 925 00:48:12,166 --> 00:48:14,065 I'll just wear it. Okay. You can pack it... 926 00:48:14,066 --> 00:48:15,300 All right. 927 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,132 BONANNO: I mean, the thing is like... 928 00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:24,599 There's a question of whether he is... 929 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,132 Like at what point he recognizes you doesn't really matter. 930 00:48:27,133 --> 00:48:28,365 What we want is that... (CLEARING THROAT) 931 00:48:28,366 --> 00:48:30,733 That moment. That moment when he does recognize you. 932 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,766 So, if he recognizes you here 933 00:48:32,033 --> 00:48:33,766 and sees that you're in the room, 934 00:48:34,033 --> 00:48:37,132 then he'll be, he'll be looking back and forth at you, at the screen... 935 00:48:37,133 --> 00:48:40,566 At that point if he recognizes you, we better say something. 936 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,533 BONANNO: Guess, no. I think it's down here but I don't know. 937 00:49:10,066 --> 00:49:11,200 Thank you. 938 00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:17,065 Barry, hi. How are you doing? Hi! Nice to meet you. 939 00:49:17,066 --> 00:49:20,165 Good to meet you. Good. Great. Yeah. 940 00:49:20,166 --> 00:49:22,665 We're in London and we were just at the 941 00:49:22,666 --> 00:49:24,732 offices of the World Development Movement 942 00:49:24,733 --> 00:49:27,232 where we talked to Barry Coates 943 00:49:27,233 --> 00:49:28,732 who's the director of the World Development Movement. 944 00:49:28,733 --> 00:49:33,099 And who showed up on CNBC MarketWrap Europe 945 00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:37,199 debating, um, our friend here Granwyth Hulatberi 946 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,399 about, uh, the prospects of WTO and globalization. 947 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,199 Um, we kind of expected him 948 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,099 maybe to have a glimmer of recognition immediately. 949 00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:47,632 And he didn't. Okay. Then we put on the tape. 950 00:49:47,633 --> 00:49:53,232 And he laughed at how horribly stupid it was. 951 00:49:53,233 --> 00:49:56,232 But he never realized that this wasn't 952 00:49:56,233 --> 00:49:58,199 really a representative of WTO. 953 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,099 Even when he saw me like this right next to him. 954 00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:03,532 And then we switched seats and he still didn't notice. 955 00:50:03,533 --> 00:50:07,599 And then I had to put my face next to the thing and like... 956 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,599 BONANNO: Yeah. Let's just pause it here. 957 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,132 Okay. Hit stop. Um, is there a pause? 958 00:50:12,133 --> 00:50:14,232 Stop button. There's no pause. 959 00:50:14,233 --> 00:50:16,399 I don't know what I could have said after that. 960 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,599 After that clip. 961 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,765 I mean, really... 962 00:50:18,766 --> 00:50:21,265 (BOTH LAUGHING) 963 00:50:21,266 --> 00:50:22,565 Where did they get this guy from? 964 00:50:22,566 --> 00:50:25,099 Afterwards. Might have been my first comment. 965 00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:27,433 So, did you ever figure out where they got the guy from? 966 00:50:28,366 --> 00:50:30,099 I understood that he was 967 00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:35,265 part of the external relations department of the WTO. 968 00:50:35,266 --> 00:50:36,299 Right. That's what they thought. 969 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:37,600 That's what they thought as well too. 970 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,232 BOTH: But, as it happens... 971 00:50:41,233 --> 00:50:42,399 BONANNO: He wasn't. 972 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,532 BICHLBAUM: Yeah. In fact... 973 00:50:43,533 --> 00:50:45,500 BICHLBAUM: Just take one more close look. 974 00:50:47,266 --> 00:50:49,266 Oh, wait! Can we... Is this reverse? 975 00:50:53,166 --> 00:50:55,066 No! (BOTH LAUGHING) 976 00:50:58,266 --> 00:51:01,165 I wasn't going to mention that. The likeness. 977 00:51:01,166 --> 00:51:04,100 Are you serious? BONANNO: You were being very polite, weren't you? 978 00:51:05,166 --> 00:51:06,733 Yeah. You did it as a spoof. 979 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,133 Yeah. Yeah, basically. 980 00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:13,565 Good. We weren't sure how you'd... 981 00:51:13,566 --> 00:51:16,699 We were really hoping you wouldn't be too offended, really. Oh no! 982 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:18,199 Oh, hell no! That's great! 983 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,432 (LAUGHING) That's really... 984 00:51:19,433 --> 00:51:20,599 I was wondering. 985 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,399 Cause I hadn't seen that guy before 986 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,432 and I did know some of the WTO external relations 987 00:51:25,433 --> 00:51:27,465 people and I was thinking, 988 00:51:27,466 --> 00:51:30,165 "My God! They really put up a ripe one this time." 989 00:51:30,166 --> 00:51:32,732 We wanted to talk to Barry Coates as well 990 00:51:32,733 --> 00:51:37,199 because he has a lot of statistics and information about 991 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,732 globalization that we thought would be useful 992 00:51:38,733 --> 00:51:41,199 for the lecture in Australia. 993 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,165 All of the WTO agreements, bar one, 994 00:51:44,166 --> 00:51:47,199 are all about restricting what governments can do. 995 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,766 And so essentially the whole trading system is built on the premise 996 00:51:52,033 --> 00:51:57,332 that the companies trading internationally, investing internationally 997 00:51:57,333 --> 00:51:59,233 are going to be preyed upon 998 00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:02,199 by nasty governments. 999 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,065 And really, 1000 00:52:04,066 --> 00:52:06,332 I mean, what we have is an international system 1001 00:52:06,333 --> 00:52:07,465 that is entirely the reverse. 1002 00:52:07,466 --> 00:52:10,265 What's got squeezed out of the system 1003 00:52:10,266 --> 00:52:12,665 is democracy, is development, is environment, 1004 00:52:12,666 --> 00:52:16,232 is the kind of human values 1005 00:52:16,233 --> 00:52:19,365 which really ought to be the center of what we're trying to do. 1006 00:52:19,366 --> 00:52:22,665 We don't kind of live to trade. Yeah. 1007 00:52:22,666 --> 00:52:26,232 You know, we live to have decent lives. 1008 00:52:26,233 --> 00:52:28,365 And that ought to be the goal of our trade policy, 1009 00:52:28,366 --> 00:52:33,200 not maximizing trade or getting rid of any impediments to it. 1010 00:52:53,333 --> 00:52:54,665 (ELEVATOR DINGING) 1011 00:52:54,666 --> 00:52:56,300 Oh! 1012 00:52:57,366 --> 00:52:58,200 Okay. 1013 00:52:59,366 --> 00:53:00,766 That's good. Got that. 1014 00:53:01,766 --> 00:53:03,200 Need to get the video. 1015 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,200 And we'll be off. 1016 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:09,300 Let's see. 1017 00:53:12,266 --> 00:53:15,399 Uh, one of the big reasons why I'm up here is 1018 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,265 that we have the Australia gig, 1019 00:53:17,266 --> 00:53:18,665 uh, for the Yes Men. 1020 00:53:18,666 --> 00:53:20,232 I did a animation 1021 00:53:20,233 --> 00:53:23,265 about, uh, you know the recycling of post-consumer waste 1022 00:53:23,266 --> 00:53:26,000 into, uh, hamburgers and fast food. 1023 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,265 So, um... 1024 00:53:28,266 --> 00:53:29,733 BICHLBAUM: Here we go. 1025 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,132 LICHTY: "The answer to the world's sustainable food future 1026 00:53:32,133 --> 00:53:34,265 "is in recycling. 1027 00:53:34,266 --> 00:53:36,699 "And since over half our nutrients taken in are eliminated 1028 00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:38,366 "valuable resources are at risk. 1029 00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:40,399 "By using post-consumer waste 1030 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,299 "reBurger allows essential nutrients 1031 00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:43,565 "to be offered to developing countries 1032 00:53:43,566 --> 00:53:45,299 "for greatly reduced cost." 1033 00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,000 Uh-huh. Oh! Okay. 1034 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,033 (ALL LAUGHING) 1035 00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:54,565 Oh. It gets, it gets better. 1036 00:53:54,566 --> 00:53:56,265 Oh! Okay! 1037 00:53:56,266 --> 00:53:57,399 Wait! What was that! 1038 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,265 Is that in outer space? 1039 00:53:58,266 --> 00:54:00,499 Yeah, I'm sorry! 1040 00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:03,366 (STAMMERING) I think it does the job. I think it does the job. 1041 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,299 BICHLBAUM: We're here in New York because 1042 00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:09,665 Herb Alpert, 1043 00:54:09,666 --> 00:54:13,065 um, of Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass, 1044 00:54:13,066 --> 00:54:15,332 um, is, gave us this award. 1045 00:54:15,333 --> 00:54:16,699 Um, bunch of money 1046 00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:19,766 to do what, you know, the kind of stuff that we do. 1047 00:54:20,033 --> 00:54:22,399 Um, so we had to come here and have dinner with him. 1048 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,299 And, and, you know, get the money 1049 00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:26,599 and, and thank everybody and it was very nice. 1050 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,599 And it's very surprising. 1051 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,765 But we're very pleased. 1052 00:54:29,766 --> 00:54:32,599 I think we can say that we're very pleased. 1053 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,332 Yeah, it was a big chunk of money. 1054 00:54:34,333 --> 00:54:36,765 It's gonna bank roll a lot of future activities 1055 00:54:36,766 --> 00:54:38,365 like going to Australia. 1056 00:54:38,366 --> 00:54:39,599 Oh, yeah. Um... 1057 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,599 Yeah, so we got this chunk of money 1058 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,065 but of course now we're also using this opportunity 1059 00:54:44,066 --> 00:54:45,766 and this hotel room here in New York 1060 00:54:46,033 --> 00:54:47,065 to meet up with Matt, 1061 00:54:47,066 --> 00:54:48,632 who's been working on the PowerPoint 1062 00:54:48,633 --> 00:54:50,465 presentation for Australia. 1063 00:54:50,466 --> 00:54:53,065 And to meet up with Patrick who's been working on 1064 00:54:53,066 --> 00:54:55,332 animations for Australia as well. 1065 00:54:55,333 --> 00:54:58,199 Fortunately we were lucky too because, uh, 1066 00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,365 Snafu was in town. 1067 00:54:59,366 --> 00:55:01,733 And he's sort of, uh, a European Yes Man. 1068 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,365 Who's been sort of circulating in the European scene 1069 00:55:04,366 --> 00:55:07,099 doing Yes Man type activities. 1070 00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:10,132 But, uh, it's a good thing he's here, here in the States 1071 00:55:10,133 --> 00:55:11,633 so he can go to Plattsburg with us. 1072 00:55:12,366 --> 00:55:13,499 "Yes, trade liberalization 1073 00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:14,665 "is a religious undertaking. 1074 00:55:14,666 --> 00:55:16,765 "A project of faith, a crusade of sorts 1075 00:55:16,766 --> 00:55:18,765 "and it has been ever since its founders 1076 00:55:18,766 --> 00:55:22,499 "declared that financial success comes from God and that wealth is a sign 1077 00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:24,065 "of divine favor. 1078 00:55:24,066 --> 00:55:28,099 "Now, why is starvation a problem? 1079 00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:29,599 "First, the facts. As we all know, 1080 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,500 "investment and exports has been on the rise..." 1081 00:55:34,333 --> 00:55:36,532 There's some bad news. 1082 00:55:36,533 --> 00:55:39,532 There's some really bad news that came down in the last two days. 1083 00:55:39,533 --> 00:55:43,132 Um, the conference in Australia... 1084 00:55:43,133 --> 00:55:45,399 The people from the conference in Australia 1085 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,532 wrote an e-mail saying that the conference has been canceled 1086 00:55:48,533 --> 00:55:50,365 because of low enrollment. 1087 00:55:50,366 --> 00:55:52,365 In some ways it's really kind of... 1088 00:55:52,366 --> 00:55:54,365 I guess, uh, a nice thing 1089 00:55:54,366 --> 00:55:55,532 that there was under-enrollment 1090 00:55:55,533 --> 00:55:57,399 because it was really a hideous conference. 1091 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,432 And it seemed like a really dire thing that 1092 00:56:00,433 --> 00:56:02,665 people would actually want to go to that thing. 1093 00:56:02,666 --> 00:56:05,399 And so, it's really encouraging for humanity 1094 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,432 that the conference actually has been canceled. 1095 00:56:07,433 --> 00:56:09,465 But at the same time it's really, um, 1096 00:56:09,466 --> 00:56:11,365 made things difficult for us. 1097 00:56:11,366 --> 00:56:14,733 And so I wrote back to them as Hildegard West and I asked them 1098 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,365 if they would please set up another venue 1099 00:56:17,366 --> 00:56:21,432 because Kinnithrung Sprat is already on route to Australia. 1100 00:56:21,433 --> 00:56:25,399 So, right now, I'm waiting to see if they come back to us 1101 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,532 with a suggestion that they'll actually have a public presentation. 1102 00:56:28,533 --> 00:56:31,399 But since the conference has been canceled 1103 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,699 now the event in Plattsburg is kind of like... 1104 00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:36,399 It might be the only venue we have for this lecture. 1105 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,065 And so, it's really important now 1106 00:56:38,066 --> 00:56:40,432 that we get the lecture done and sort of together. 1107 00:56:40,433 --> 00:56:42,432 So, it's no longer a dress rehearsal. 1108 00:56:42,433 --> 00:56:44,532 It's actually like 1109 00:56:44,533 --> 00:56:46,766 the final, you know, production. 1110 00:56:48,633 --> 00:56:49,766 It's about time. 1111 00:56:50,033 --> 00:56:51,465 What? I was so worried about your shoes. 1112 00:56:51,466 --> 00:56:53,532 About what... This guy brought shoes. 1113 00:56:53,533 --> 00:56:55,265 He brought real shoes for you. Look. 1114 00:56:55,266 --> 00:56:57,565 Do we have the hamburgers yet? 1115 00:56:57,566 --> 00:56:58,766 Uh, we have to pick them up. 1116 00:56:59,033 --> 00:57:00,399 But, you, you mentioned... They're ordered. 1117 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,465 They're ordered. Yeah, Richard ordered them. 1118 00:57:02,466 --> 00:57:04,565 BICHLBAUM: That's fantastic. 1119 00:57:04,566 --> 00:57:06,599 Basically there's this guy named Richard Robbins 1120 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,499 who I met at a conference about a month ago. 1121 00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:14,599 And he has written several books on sort of global... Globalization. 1122 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,465 BICHLBAUM: He was interested in having the WTO 1123 00:57:17,466 --> 00:57:20,199 come speak at the Economics department. 1124 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,599 And only he really knows that this isn't, um, really the WTO. 1125 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,299 Everybody else will think that it's the WTO. 1126 00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:28,599 But another good thing is that it will be a hungry audience. 1127 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,065 So there's a good chance they are going to eat those hamburgers. 1128 00:57:32,066 --> 00:57:34,565 Which we weren't sure was actually gonna happen 1129 00:57:34,566 --> 00:57:36,466 with the accountants in Australia. 1130 00:57:38,566 --> 00:57:40,065 You know, I think for a, 1131 00:57:40,066 --> 00:57:42,499 for look, I should probably carry these in. 1132 00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:43,633 Okay. Can you do it? 1133 00:57:44,633 --> 00:57:45,699 Yeah, I'm thinking that, uh 1134 00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:47,465 that you probably shouldn't be associated 1135 00:57:47,466 --> 00:57:48,433 with the hamburgers. Okay. 1136 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,732 BICHLBAUM: I'd like to thank everybody for coming. 1137 00:57:51,733 --> 00:57:54,499 Um, you have many education choices. 1138 00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:57,632 And, uh, we're all grateful at the WTO 1139 00:57:57,633 --> 00:58:00,465 that you have chosen to listen to us for an hour. 1140 00:58:00,466 --> 00:58:04,332 And to our messages about things that will impact everyone. 1141 00:58:04,333 --> 00:58:05,765 I'd like to, to say that 1142 00:58:05,766 --> 00:58:08,332 by joining us here you're essentially embarking 1143 00:58:08,333 --> 00:58:09,533 with us on a mission. 1144 00:58:10,633 --> 00:58:13,133 I'd like to start right at the beginning. 1145 00:58:13,633 --> 00:58:15,265 As I was saying 1146 00:58:15,266 --> 00:58:17,632 trade liberalization is a project of faith. 1147 00:58:17,633 --> 00:58:19,000 It's a crusade. 1148 00:58:19,766 --> 00:58:21,465 And in any crusade there are problems. 1149 00:58:21,466 --> 00:58:24,132 There are invading armies, there are big blockades. 1150 00:58:24,133 --> 00:58:28,499 And one of the, the problems that we run into 1151 00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,232 in this crusade is starvation in the Third World. 1152 00:58:31,233 --> 00:58:33,665 You may recognize that symbol from those green bins you see. 1153 00:58:33,666 --> 00:58:36,499 You know, where cans, bottles, blah-blah... 1154 00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:38,365 The kind of recycling I'm talking about 1155 00:58:38,366 --> 00:58:40,499 that we have developed at the WTO 1156 00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:45,499 is not, not really this, this irrelevant kind of recycling 1157 00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:47,532 where the target individual consumers 1158 00:58:47,533 --> 00:58:49,299 like you and me or 1159 00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:52,165 of, uh, non-edible industrial products 1160 00:58:52,166 --> 00:58:54,499 is such a tiny part of the problem. 1161 00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:55,665 Rather we're talking about 1162 00:58:55,666 --> 00:58:59,665 really recycling what counts where it counts. 1163 00:58:59,666 --> 00:59:01,532 To begin to understand the theory behind this 1164 00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:05,632 you must first realize that the human body is not really very efficient. 1165 00:59:05,633 --> 00:59:07,399 When ingesting heavy foods 1166 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,332 only about 20% 1167 00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:12,565 of the nutrients are absorbed by the elementary passageway, 1168 00:59:12,566 --> 00:59:17,665 while the other 80% finds itself expelled in post-consumer by-products. 1169 00:59:17,666 --> 00:59:19,665 Already 20 years ago, NASA scientists 1170 00:59:19,666 --> 00:59:22,565 began to tap into this nutritional goldmine 1171 00:59:22,566 --> 00:59:24,065 by developing filters 1172 00:59:24,066 --> 00:59:27,365 that could transform their astronauts waste into healthy, 1173 00:59:27,366 --> 00:59:30,265 hygienic and even delicious food once again. 1174 00:59:30,266 --> 00:59:31,766 With the use of this technology, 1175 00:59:32,033 --> 00:59:33,565 a single hamburger for example 1176 00:59:33,566 --> 00:59:36,199 can be eaten more than 10 times 1177 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,299 providing a cumulative total 1178 00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:41,165 of three times the nutritional value 1179 00:59:41,166 --> 00:59:43,565 of the original fresh hamburger. 1180 00:59:43,566 --> 00:59:47,232 Now again, a certain amount of cultural openness is required, 1181 00:59:47,233 --> 00:59:50,332 um, as we investigate solutions. 1182 00:59:50,333 --> 00:59:52,365 And I'd love to take any, uh, questions. 1183 00:59:52,366 --> 00:59:53,599 Yes, you've been... 1184 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,232 Coming from a Third World country 1185 00:59:55,233 --> 00:59:58,732 I found most of what you said pretty offensive. 1186 00:59:58,733 --> 01:00:02,065 It's as if, uh... Everyone is equal 1187 01:00:02,066 --> 01:00:04,065 but some are more equal than others? 1188 01:00:04,066 --> 01:00:05,599 And, uh... 1189 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,332 Who is to say whether people in the third world want a burger? 1190 01:00:09,333 --> 01:00:13,232 You know, I, in my heart sometimes find it, to agree that... 1191 01:00:13,233 --> 01:00:16,332 That cultures deserve equal consideration 1192 01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:18,065 perhaps to develop on their own terms 1193 01:00:18,066 --> 01:00:20,065 but, you know, we're different. 1194 01:00:20,066 --> 01:00:22,332 We're culturally different. We're rich, they're poor. 1195 01:00:22,333 --> 01:00:24,699 This is the most humane solution we can come up with 1196 01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:26,732 that stays within the market logic. 1197 01:00:26,733 --> 01:00:29,365 BONANNO: If it's all right, I could answer a portion of that, 1198 01:00:29,366 --> 01:00:30,733 of that question as well. 1199 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,732 And this answers the question about desire for the product 1200 01:00:34,733 --> 01:00:38,099 because, the biggest growth areas are the developing world. 1201 01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:42,165 And so, uh, in fact people do want the product. 1202 01:00:42,166 --> 01:00:45,599 We do have a kind of video presentation about this that I... 1203 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,332 I came prepared to show. It's not... 1204 01:00:48,333 --> 01:00:51,633 The program isn't actually completely ready yet. 1205 01:00:54,366 --> 01:00:57,232 BONANNO: So, as you can see here there's a consumer 1206 01:00:57,233 --> 01:01:01,765 uh, in the first world entering McDonalds and, uh... 1207 01:01:01,766 --> 01:01:03,333 Consuming a hamburger. 1208 01:01:05,233 --> 01:01:09,599 And afterward, this is a process we're all familiar with. 1209 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,200 I don't need to explain it to anyone. 1210 01:01:13,166 --> 01:01:14,566 (AUDIENCE CHUCKLES) BONANNO: But... 1211 01:01:16,133 --> 01:01:19,332 You see, it's rendered out in this style because, uh, 1212 01:01:19,333 --> 01:01:23,399 studies have shown that consumers are most responsive 1213 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,765 to 3D animation right now particularly in developing cultures. 1214 01:01:28,766 --> 01:01:30,265 (CLEARING THROAT) So, as you can see it goes through 1215 01:01:30,266 --> 01:01:32,132 a piping system, a kind of... 1216 01:01:32,133 --> 01:01:34,632 And this isn't unusual, we do this for oil. 1217 01:01:34,633 --> 01:01:36,632 We could do this for food as well. 1218 01:01:36,633 --> 01:01:40,733 And as you can see it goes back up through the plumbing 1219 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,132 and emerges in a McDonalds. 1220 01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:47,665 Now the part of this video that isn't completed yet is the filtering process. 1221 01:01:47,666 --> 01:01:50,665 There will be a... A very well rendered 1222 01:01:50,666 --> 01:01:53,700 uh, filtering... (AUDIENCE GROANS) 1223 01:01:56,033 --> 01:01:57,600 (AUDIENCE CHUCKLES) (CLAPPING) 1224 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:04,699 BONANNO: And, uh, as you can see, 1225 01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:07,165 this might answer somebody's question from before 1226 01:02:07,166 --> 01:02:09,766 but at the McDonalds in a developing country, 1227 01:02:10,033 --> 01:02:11,432 and in fact in this country as well, 1228 01:02:11,433 --> 01:02:13,299 you'd be able to choose... 1229 01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:15,699 The number one, number two, number three, number four, number five 1230 01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:18,299 would no longer refer to combinations of food. 1231 01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:22,532 But rather, uh, just the number of times a product had been recycled. 1232 01:02:22,533 --> 01:02:24,199 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 1233 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,699 We were lucky to partner with the World Trade Organization 1234 01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:29,732 which, uh, you know, has slightly different goals. 1235 01:02:29,733 --> 01:02:32,665 Of course, McDonalds' goals are to profit and grow 1236 01:02:32,666 --> 01:02:34,699 and, uh, we hope that we can provide 1237 01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:37,165 a nutritious and tasty product in the process. 1238 01:02:37,166 --> 01:02:41,432 Our goals are to help McDonalds profit and grow and all other corporations. 1239 01:02:41,433 --> 01:02:44,766 I think you guys, like the WTO 1240 01:02:45,033 --> 01:02:48,733 is kind of lacking kind of like a human element. You know, like... 1241 01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:51,199 If you saw... 1242 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,199 Have you ever seen starving people? 1243 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,233 Uh, in pictures, yes. (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 1244 01:02:57,333 --> 01:02:59,766 So tell me, if you saw somebody starving to death 1245 01:03:00,033 --> 01:03:03,065 you would probably think a lot, you know, like... 1246 01:03:03,066 --> 01:03:07,699 That would kind of hit you in a sensitive, you know, place to say, like... 1247 01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:11,065 Oh, well, you know, maybe markets and money 1248 01:03:11,066 --> 01:03:12,699 and this and that don't really mean as much. 1249 01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:16,065 And actually, like, feeding people means a little bit more. 1250 01:03:16,066 --> 01:03:19,099 Yeah, well, it is true that there is a personal side of it that, um... 1251 01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:22,365 I have to say, in the WTO there are questions that we... 1252 01:03:22,366 --> 01:03:24,765 We have about this as human beings. 1253 01:03:24,766 --> 01:03:29,499 But we're not as subject... We have a kind of firmer grasp on theory. 1254 01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:32,765 We are able, um, fortunately, 1255 01:03:32,766 --> 01:03:36,099 to simply direct world trade in a much more theoretical way. 1256 01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:40,099 Um, in collaboration with our colleagues at the largest corporations. 1257 01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:43,099 So, uh, you know? 1258 01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:45,733 Yes, probably if I went to these countries 1259 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,099 I'd be... I'd feel, um... 1260 01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,732 I'd think about things a little differently perhaps. 1261 01:03:51,733 --> 01:03:55,399 But, um, at the same time I don't think I would forget all my schooling. 1262 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,432 I don't think I would forget you know, all these theories, and so on. 1263 01:03:58,433 --> 01:04:01,733 So, um, perhaps one day I'll do that. 1264 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,765 This is a money maker. Correct? 1265 01:04:03,766 --> 01:04:07,765 Yes. Well, it's a money maker, starvation solver. Sure. 1266 01:04:07,766 --> 01:04:09,232 And how much does McDonalds pay you 1267 01:04:09,233 --> 01:04:11,399 to come here and speak this garbage? 1268 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,099 Like this is a mouse with an ear growing out of its back. 1269 01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:18,132 How are you going to get around cultural and legal implications? 1270 01:04:18,133 --> 01:04:21,000 Cannibalism. They're basically asking us to recycle shit. 1271 01:04:31,766 --> 01:04:33,466 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 1272 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,765 The reality is that we already 1273 01:04:51,766 --> 01:04:54,766 treat, um, people in the third world far worse than 1274 01:04:55,033 --> 01:04:56,299 we treat our domestic animals. 1275 01:04:56,300 --> 01:04:58,733 That's, that's... It's not saying it's right. 1276 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,132 It's just saying that's the reality. 1277 01:05:01,133 --> 01:05:02,366 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 1278 01:05:09,166 --> 01:05:12,132 (CLEARING THROAT) Well, after thinking about it for a little while 1279 01:05:12,133 --> 01:05:15,132 it seems the Plattsburgh lecture just went great! 1280 01:05:15,133 --> 01:05:17,132 And it went exactly the way 1281 01:05:17,133 --> 01:05:19,432 we originally expected these lectures to work. Yeah. 1282 01:05:19,433 --> 01:05:22,199 Which was that, at a certain point it's like light bulbs going off 1283 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,632 in the heads of the different people in the audience. 1284 01:05:24,633 --> 01:05:28,499 And they're realizing that it was just too crazy to be real 1285 01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:31,499 and yet sort of it was based on reality and so... 1286 01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:34,065 BONANNO: You know, they started throwing globes at us. 1287 01:05:34,066 --> 01:05:36,132 They got angry, they got frustrated. 1288 01:05:36,133 --> 01:05:39,000 It worked. Exactly like we thought it would. 1289 01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:43,732 They don't ask you if you believe in it. 1290 01:05:43,733 --> 01:05:46,766 You don't get to vote on the World Trade Organization treaties. 1291 01:05:47,033 --> 01:05:48,199 They don't let you vote on it. 1292 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,732 They don't give you a say in it. 1293 01:05:49,733 --> 01:05:53,065 They let you listen to the one sided propaganda. 1294 01:05:53,066 --> 01:05:54,732 Name me a single columnist in America 1295 01:05:54,733 --> 01:05:58,632 who doesn't stand up and cheer under the banner of so called free trade. 1296 01:05:58,633 --> 01:06:00,332 There's no public discussion. 1297 01:06:00,333 --> 01:06:03,766 There's no dissent in any of the parties. Political parties. 1298 01:06:04,033 --> 01:06:07,365 There's no debate, there's no discussion. There's no vote. 1299 01:06:07,366 --> 01:06:09,399 In fact, the only nation 1300 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,365 which has called for a vote is Brazil. 1301 01:06:12,366 --> 01:06:15,232 And, already... Which is saying 1302 01:06:15,233 --> 01:06:17,065 that it will not sign any more trade treaties 1303 01:06:17,066 --> 01:06:19,365 without a plebiscite of its people. 1304 01:06:19,366 --> 01:06:23,065 And the world trade barons are losing their damn minds 1305 01:06:23,066 --> 01:06:26,232 trying to prevent this type of democracy 1306 01:06:26,233 --> 01:06:28,099 from spreading planet wide. 1307 01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:30,199 Because once people know what this stuff is about 1308 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,665 and get to vote on it, 1309 01:06:31,666 --> 01:06:34,200 no-one's going to vote themselves into poverty. 1310 01:06:38,366 --> 01:06:41,066 BONANNO: Here we go. Australia country code. 1311 01:06:41,366 --> 01:06:42,566 Oops. 1312 01:06:44,066 --> 01:06:47,000 BONANNO: Oh, Australia. 61. It's 61. Sixty one. 1313 01:06:48,566 --> 01:06:50,166 (DIAL TONE) 1314 01:06:52,233 --> 01:06:56,132 Hi, this is Kinnithrung Sprat from the WTO. 1315 01:06:56,133 --> 01:06:57,265 WOMAN: Hello, how are you? 1316 01:06:57,266 --> 01:06:59,199 Good, thanks. How are you? 1317 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,099 Where are you now? I'm in New York at the moment. 1318 01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:04,265 New York, are you? Yeah. 1319 01:07:04,266 --> 01:07:07,132 Kinninthrung Sprat, just called a person 1320 01:07:07,133 --> 01:07:10,132 who's coordinating Sprat's visit. 1321 01:07:10,133 --> 01:07:14,232 I'm due in Hong Kong the week after, um, this. 1322 01:07:14,233 --> 01:07:16,065 And that date is firm 1323 01:07:16,066 --> 01:07:18,532 but my travel to Australia is as yet, um, 1324 01:07:18,533 --> 01:07:20,165 not, not firm. 1325 01:07:20,166 --> 01:07:22,099 Yeah. She's actually, it turns out 1326 01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:23,665 been e-mailing all these people 1327 01:07:23,666 --> 01:07:26,432 and basically calling journalists 1328 01:07:26,433 --> 01:07:28,699 and getting people to attend his lecture. 1329 01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:30,465 And she fully expects him to attend 1330 01:07:30,466 --> 01:07:32,565 because she had spoken to Hildegard West, 1331 01:07:32,566 --> 01:07:34,265 uh, Sprat's assistant 1332 01:07:34,266 --> 01:07:37,265 and Hildegard West had told her that everything was on 1333 01:07:37,266 --> 01:07:39,165 and Sprat was definitely going. 1334 01:07:39,166 --> 01:07:41,766 So now we just decided we really have to go 1335 01:07:42,033 --> 01:07:45,132 to honor this arrangement with, uh, Australia. 1336 01:07:45,133 --> 01:07:48,099 BONANNO: So, it's back on now. After we totally thought it was off. 1337 01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:50,265 And instead of giving this lecture 1338 01:07:50,266 --> 01:07:52,565 that we've been planning for like nine months, 1339 01:07:52,566 --> 01:07:54,632 we're gonna like, you know, 1340 01:07:54,633 --> 01:07:57,100 disband the WTO. (BOTH CHUCKLING) 1341 01:07:59,133 --> 01:08:02,265 BONANNO: Shouldn't we get you a pair of shoes that actually are reasonable? 1342 01:08:02,266 --> 01:08:04,132 I mean, they just don't look like dress shoes. 1343 01:08:04,133 --> 01:08:05,733 They look like wrestling shoes. 1344 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,432 All right. There are no shoes here for you. 1345 01:08:07,433 --> 01:08:09,599 BONANNO: Never mind. No. Shoes are out. 1346 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,165 BONANNO: I like that tie. 1347 01:08:11,166 --> 01:08:13,166 Uh-huh. Around... 1348 01:08:15,633 --> 01:08:17,166 Oh, wait. Did you try this? 1349 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,200 Yeah. 1350 01:08:22,166 --> 01:08:24,232 I did a set of these with an ink-jet 1351 01:08:24,233 --> 01:08:25,632 and they just don't look as real. 1352 01:08:25,633 --> 01:08:28,232 Ah! Something about them. They look, um... 1353 01:08:28,233 --> 01:08:30,100 Kind of hand made. BICHLBAUM: These look perfect. 1354 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,299 I printed off some letterhead for you. 1355 01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:34,465 BICHLBAUM: Nice. I guess you guys already saw that. 1356 01:08:34,466 --> 01:08:36,232 Yeah. And I just kept it real simple. 1357 01:08:36,233 --> 01:08:40,332 That's perfect. So that it would show up well on the fax. 1358 01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:42,732 BONANNO: That is the most ridiculous photo. 1359 01:08:42,733 --> 01:08:45,632 (CHUCKLING) It's like something really weird about this public... 1360 01:08:45,633 --> 01:08:47,766 Public relations guy. Wow! I love that. 1361 01:08:48,033 --> 01:08:50,199 A little magnetic strip on the back. 1362 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,199 BONANNO: Wow! BICHLBAUM: Really beautiful. 1363 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,499 You know what I did? I went to, uh, I went to Google. 1364 01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:58,065 (CHUCKLING) Uh-huh. And I went to Google image search 1365 01:08:58,066 --> 01:09:01,299 and I typed in ID card. 1366 01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:03,365 And you wouldn't believe the numbers of ID... 1367 01:09:03,366 --> 01:09:06,332 Pictures of ID cards that show up on the web. Wow. 1368 01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:09,065 And I just went through and took a little bit from each one. 1369 01:09:09,066 --> 01:09:10,465 You know, it said... 1370 01:09:10,466 --> 01:09:12,499 This one's got like a little bar code at the bottom. 1371 01:09:12,500 --> 01:09:15,365 And this one uses the logo over here. 1372 01:09:15,366 --> 01:09:16,766 BICHLBAUM: That is so nice. 1373 01:09:25,533 --> 01:09:27,200 (TALKING INDISTINCTLY) 1374 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,532 No, I don't know. I'm just really nervous 'cause, um... 1375 01:09:57,533 --> 01:10:00,665 I don't know, this feels different from all the other things that we've done. 1376 01:10:00,666 --> 01:10:05,366 It's not like the same kind of play, fun, crazy, weird, 1377 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,399 impossible stuff. 1378 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,299 This is like, sincere, you know? 1379 01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:12,099 It's about like replacing the WTO with something better. 1380 01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:14,365 Do you think that satire is more fun? 1381 01:10:14,366 --> 01:10:16,065 BICHLBAUM: Yeah, definitely. 1382 01:10:16,066 --> 01:10:18,432 I got this feeling that it's less... For some reason, um... 1383 01:10:18,433 --> 01:10:21,132 Maybe it's less fun to be sincere. 1384 01:10:21,133 --> 01:10:23,399 But it is less fun, isn't it? 1385 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,699 In a way, yeah. 1386 01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:28,233 Maybe it's more fun to be satirical than... 1387 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,266 Serious. 1388 01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:32,300 BICHLBAUM: Yeah. 1389 01:10:36,433 --> 01:10:38,432 BONANNO: It's about 9:00 in the morning. 1390 01:10:38,433 --> 01:10:41,299 And this is the big day for Kinnithrung Sprat 1391 01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:43,299 to go talk to CPA Australia 1392 01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:45,565 and close down the WTO. 1393 01:10:45,566 --> 01:10:48,265 It's kind of an exciting day for us. 1394 01:10:48,266 --> 01:10:50,633 You know, we finally get to shut it down. 1395 01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:53,733 (WHIRRING) 1396 01:11:05,066 --> 01:11:07,766 BONANNO: I'm writing a local phone number for this cell phone 1397 01:11:08,033 --> 01:11:10,265 on the business card so... 1398 01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:12,332 We give these to journalists or anybody else 1399 01:11:12,333 --> 01:11:15,565 who wants to contact Mr. Sprat, they'll be able to do it 1400 01:11:15,566 --> 01:11:17,266 in the next couple of days. 1401 01:11:19,733 --> 01:11:23,432 We have to leave in about 10 minutes though. I know. 1402 01:11:23,433 --> 01:11:26,033 BICHLBAUM: I'm just gonna do as little as possible. 1403 01:11:29,466 --> 01:11:31,299 Okay, let's just go by there. 1404 01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:32,532 We have some time yet. Yeah. 1405 01:11:32,533 --> 01:11:35,299 Let's just keep walking. Just walk straight. 1406 01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:36,499 Don't look. BONANNO: Don't look. 1407 01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:38,365 Don't turn left. 1408 01:11:38,366 --> 01:11:40,633 Don't... Okay, no. Oh... 1409 01:11:41,333 --> 01:11:42,499 Don't do that. (BEEPING) 1410 01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:44,365 Uh-oh. 1411 01:11:44,366 --> 01:11:45,300 (CHUCKLING) Answer it. 1412 01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:48,366 Hello. Michael Bonanno here. 1413 01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:52,733 Hi, Jane. How are you? 1414 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,599 All right then. I guess we'll see you in just a few minutes. 1415 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,400 And we just come up to level three then? 1416 01:12:01,066 --> 01:12:02,365 Great, thank you very much. 1417 01:12:02,366 --> 01:12:03,733 All right. Bye bye. 1418 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,333 (BOTH CHUCKLING) 1419 01:12:09,633 --> 01:12:11,499 BONANNO: Oh wait, shit! This is the building. 1420 01:12:11,500 --> 01:12:13,499 MAN: Thank you for coming. Oh, thank you for having us. 1421 01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:17,099 MAN: Sorry for the confusion and problems and everything else. 1422 01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:19,733 Oh. It's to be expected these days, I think. 1423 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,399 Um, no thanks for going out of your way to arrange this. 1424 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,400 This is really terrific. 1425 01:12:24,633 --> 01:12:26,366 (CLAPPING) 1426 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:31,766 Um, thank you all for coming. 1427 01:12:32,033 --> 01:12:34,365 I'd like to, um... 1428 01:12:34,366 --> 01:12:36,332 BICHLBAUM: Like to thank the organizers for 1429 01:12:36,333 --> 01:12:39,532 going out of their way to create this panel, 1430 01:12:39,533 --> 01:12:42,065 this luncheon, um... (CELL PHONE BEEPS) 1431 01:12:42,066 --> 01:12:44,132 In the face of some odds. 1432 01:12:44,133 --> 01:12:46,766 The conference having been canceled of course. 1433 01:12:47,033 --> 01:12:49,532 (CLEARS THROAT) And I'd especially like to begin 1434 01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:53,665 by apologizing for a rather sudden change in the program. 1435 01:12:53,666 --> 01:12:56,499 Uh, consequent upon a rather dramatic 1436 01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:59,599 development in Geneva, yesterday. 1437 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,165 I originally intended to transmit today an upbeat report on 1438 01:13:04,166 --> 01:13:08,399 some new technologies that affect agro business in a global sense. 1439 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,699 Instead, I find myself the messenger 1440 01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:12,532 of some rather disturbing news. 1441 01:13:12,533 --> 01:13:16,465 Um, the WTO will be issuing a public statement 1442 01:13:16,466 --> 01:13:18,565 in detail by the end of the week. 1443 01:13:18,566 --> 01:13:20,399 But the die has been cast. 1444 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,132 As of September 2002, 1445 01:13:23,133 --> 01:13:25,699 having seen the effects of policies 1446 01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:29,565 whose only intent was to bring greater prosperity and peace, 1447 01:13:29,566 --> 01:13:32,432 the World Trade Organization in its present form 1448 01:13:32,433 --> 01:13:34,433 will cease to exist. 1449 01:13:35,433 --> 01:13:37,699 Over the next two years we at the WTO 1450 01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:41,565 will endeavor to refound our organization along different lines. 1451 01:13:41,566 --> 01:13:46,465 Based in a different understanding of the purposes of world trade. 1452 01:13:46,466 --> 01:13:49,765 The new organization will have as its foundation and basis 1453 01:13:49,766 --> 01:13:53,732 the United Nations, uh, universal declaration of human rights. 1454 01:13:53,733 --> 01:13:58,465 Upon which we feel, uh, we can make a good foundation 1455 01:13:58,466 --> 01:14:01,065 to ensuring that the organization will have human 1456 01:14:01,066 --> 01:14:03,465 rather than business interests as its bottom line. 1457 01:14:03,466 --> 01:14:05,765 My reaction was one of total surprise. 1458 01:14:05,766 --> 01:14:08,232 We were expecting a speech more based on 1459 01:14:08,233 --> 01:14:09,766 what the World Trade Organization does 1460 01:14:10,033 --> 01:14:11,599 in its relation to Australian trade. 1461 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,232 It sort of blew me out of the water 1462 01:14:13,233 --> 01:14:14,766 when the, uh, the announcement was made that 1463 01:14:15,033 --> 01:14:18,699 the World Trade Organization is significantly reinventing itself 1464 01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:21,532 to focus on issues relating to 1465 01:14:21,533 --> 01:14:24,465 um, people as opposed to economics. 1466 01:14:24,466 --> 01:14:26,099 Something that hopefully 1467 01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,165 could be of significant benefit 1468 01:14:28,166 --> 01:14:31,765 to, uh, the poor and needy throughout the world in all the developing countries. 1469 01:14:31,766 --> 01:14:34,499 The UN estimates that poor countries... 1470 01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:36,632 The poorest countries in the world lose 1471 01:14:36,633 --> 01:14:39,465 approximately two billion dollars a day 1472 01:14:39,466 --> 01:14:41,465 because of unjust trade rules 1473 01:14:41,466 --> 01:14:45,099 many of them instituted by our own organization. 1474 01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:47,499 And this is 14 times the amount 1475 01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:50,765 that they receive in aid from developed countries. 1476 01:14:50,766 --> 01:14:54,099 I thought the speech itself was, um, was compelling 1477 01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,099 in terms of its information. 1478 01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:58,232 It was... I was astounded to find 1479 01:14:58,233 --> 01:15:01,499 that they're actually going to dismantle the WTO. 1480 01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:03,765 I was also amazed to see that, um, 1481 01:15:03,766 --> 01:15:06,232 there was admission that perhaps it had failed. 1482 01:15:06,233 --> 01:15:09,665 Um, it's going to have a huge effect on international business. 1483 01:15:09,666 --> 01:15:12,665 And particularly for us as an organization, I feel. 1484 01:15:12,666 --> 01:15:14,766 Um, the hardest thing I find will be 1485 01:15:15,033 --> 01:15:19,532 the, um, the balance that, let's say the U.S. EU and Japan 1486 01:15:19,533 --> 01:15:23,532 in terms of being major components of the world economy. 1487 01:15:23,533 --> 01:15:25,499 The effect, you know, will they really change 1488 01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:27,365 in terms of this new organization? 1489 01:15:27,366 --> 01:15:29,765 And will there actually be genuine change? 1490 01:15:29,766 --> 01:15:33,499 And perhaps a benefit you know, to the world's poorest countries. 1491 01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:36,499 I must admit I'm a cynic with regards to that occurring. 1492 01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:39,665 Liberalization. The process of liberalization, 1493 01:15:39,666 --> 01:15:42,532 often enables the knowledge of the poor to be converted 1494 01:15:42,533 --> 01:15:46,665 into the property of global corporations. 1495 01:15:46,666 --> 01:15:49,399 BICHLBAUM: Specific statistics are rather shocking. 1496 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,165 Out of 26,000 patents 1497 01:15:53,166 --> 01:15:58,065 um, applied for in Africa in 2000 and 2001, 1498 01:15:58,066 --> 01:16:01,766 only 31 were from residents of Africa. 1499 01:16:02,033 --> 01:16:04,699 The rest were from residents of first world countries. 1500 01:16:04,700 --> 01:16:08,699 Thirty one out of 26,000 patent applications. 1501 01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:10,565 Uh, it wasn't what I was expecting. 1502 01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:12,532 (CHUCKLING) I was expecting something on agro business 1503 01:16:12,533 --> 01:16:15,665 and what the World Trade Organization does. 1504 01:16:15,666 --> 01:16:18,699 But I have to say I believe it's fairly positive. 1505 01:16:18,700 --> 01:16:22,766 Um, because I think that, uh, this, as the gentleman said, 1506 01:16:23,033 --> 01:16:26,232 "The strong are getting stronger and the weak are getting weaker." 1507 01:16:26,233 --> 01:16:28,199 And you can't let that keep on going. 1508 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,232 And even we know to sit here in Australia where some of 1509 01:16:31,233 --> 01:16:33,699 the trade arrangements that are made. 1510 01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:35,766 If you're powerful, you can get whatever you like 1511 01:16:36,033 --> 01:16:38,432 and if you're not, you can't. And it's just... 1512 01:16:38,433 --> 01:16:41,565 The world with the population we've got can't keep going that way. 1513 01:16:41,566 --> 01:16:44,565 So I think it was fairly positive and I think it's a very brave decision 1514 01:16:44,566 --> 01:16:47,599 by an organization to admit that they've been going down the wrong track 1515 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,599 and dissolve themselves and start to look for something different. 1516 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,232 I think it's, it's fantastic. Yeah. 1517 01:16:53,233 --> 01:16:55,765 Disparity is growing between the rich and poor. 1518 01:16:55,766 --> 01:16:58,332 The richest fifth have 80% of the world's income 1519 01:16:58,333 --> 01:17:00,465 and the poorest fifth have one percent. 1520 01:17:00,466 --> 01:17:03,665 Um, this gap... We all know this figure 1521 01:17:03,666 --> 01:17:08,699 but we don't always remember that this gap has actually doubled since 1960. 1522 01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:11,699 More and more thinkers are therefore noting 1523 01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:13,765 uh, that there is no evidence that 1524 01:17:13,766 --> 01:17:17,132 liberalization favors growth or benefits the poor. 1525 01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:20,099 I think we are all generally aware of increases in poverty 1526 01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:23,099 and low living standards and issues faced by developing countries. 1527 01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:25,632 And what Mr. Sprat I think had to say today, 1528 01:17:25,633 --> 01:17:27,632 really gives out a terrific sign of hope 1529 01:17:27,633 --> 01:17:30,699 for what I think we all aspire to. 1530 01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:34,666 And as a global economy that benefits all people. 1531 01:17:43,766 --> 01:17:46,465 JOHN DUNCAN: Now, after protected, protracted and detailed review 1532 01:17:46,466 --> 01:17:49,599 of current trade policy, the World Trade Organization 1533 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,665 has decided to effect a cessation of all operations 1534 01:17:53,666 --> 01:17:56,265 to be accomplished over the next four months 1535 01:17:56,266 --> 01:18:01,665 culminating by the end of September. The World... 1536 01:18:01,666 --> 01:18:04,399 BICHLBAUM: Well, I think that the Yes Men have kind of played out their course 1537 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,632 in relation to the World Trade Organization for the moment. 1538 01:18:07,633 --> 01:18:10,665 You never know when we might get another invitation. 1539 01:18:10,666 --> 01:18:15,632 We're lucky to be able to provide a sort of sense of closure by ending the WTO. 1540 01:18:15,633 --> 01:18:19,132 We also hope that other people will just start doing the same things 1541 01:18:19,133 --> 01:18:21,265 in all kinds of different contexts. 1542 01:18:21,266 --> 01:18:26,765 You know, impersonating whoever holds power, that needs to be criticized. 1543 01:18:26,766 --> 01:18:29,099 So if the opportunity arises, 1544 01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:32,265 we're just going to keep doing it. We're going to go 1545 01:18:32,266 --> 01:18:36,399 and be the Yes Men again. Or I should say be the WTO again in another event. 1546 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,265 The future is bright for the Yes Men. 1547 01:18:39,266 --> 01:18:43,200 The future of the world is a different story. 1548 01:19:18,333 --> 01:19:21,065 BONANNO: You know, this isn't, this isn't the way he usually dresses. 1549 01:19:21,066 --> 01:19:23,232 He works for the World Trade Organization. 1550 01:19:23,233 --> 01:19:25,199 You know, the WTO? Yes. 1551 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,732 He works see... We're at a conference 1552 01:19:27,733 --> 01:19:32,065 and he's demonstrating a new kind of technology. 1553 01:19:32,066 --> 01:19:34,432 Uh, this is um... Well, it's a device to 1554 01:19:34,433 --> 01:19:38,766 measure employee working in less developed countries. 1555 01:19:39,033 --> 01:19:41,665 There's a thing here, where... 1556 01:19:41,666 --> 01:19:43,199 (THUDS) 1557 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,332 (CHUCKLING) On this screen. I can see the... 1558 01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:49,732 BONANNO: So, he watches... He watches people working there. 1559 01:19:49,733 --> 01:19:53,365 And they have little devices that give them shocks. 1560 01:19:53,366 --> 01:19:55,565 Uh, it's just regular fabric. 1561 01:19:55,566 --> 01:19:58,499 In the future, it'll be sensitive, smart fabric. 1562 01:19:58,500 --> 01:20:01,599 It's a little hot. (ALL LAUGHING) 1563 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,233 That one looks better. 118917

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