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All right, let's begin.
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My name is Barry Cooper.
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- Barry Cooper.
- Barry Cooper.
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One of the best narcotics
officers in the country.
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The Barry Cooper story,
well, it's a big one.
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Barry was your worst
fucking nightmare.
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Barry Cooper could piss
an entire nation off
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with the wave of his hand.
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You're under arrest for
possession of marijuana.
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He even looks like
a cartoonish version
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of that cop that pulls you over
and fucks your fucking life up.
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Oh my god!
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Who has the power to pull a gun on you, shoot you,
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and probably get away with it?
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It's a police officer.
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This is the money
that we seized.
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The only way for Barry
to repent for these sins
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was to say, I was the villain.
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Now I need to be the hero.
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Can you imagine a DVD that teaches criminals
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how to break the law?
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Now the former
straight-laced lawman
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is using his expertise
to show drug users
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how to conceal their stash.
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It's all in an outrageous
DVD that he's produced
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called "Never Get Busted Again."
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He was one of the first people
to make a huge public stand.
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Oh, I thought he
was fucking crazy.
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You know, I thought he was
going to get shot down.
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So why in the world would you,
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as a former
drug enforcement officer,
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want to help
people use drugs?
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He's developed into
this much more dangerous
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enemy of law enforcement.
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We must end this
war on our people.
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That offended almost all
law enforcement officers,
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and he became a target.
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Hey, Rangers, why are y'all being pricks like that?
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You don't want me
busting crooked cops?
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We get into some
real cloak and dagger,
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Breaking Bad, Ozark shit.
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Barry Cooper himself
is still at large.
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Barry broke the code.
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People wanted him dead.
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Come our with your
hands in the air. Do it now.
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I was considered one of the worst traitors on the planet
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to law enforcement.
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And my response to them was,
fuck you, come get some.
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Welcome to the concealing
your stash section of this DVD.
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I'm going to show you
area's other crim--
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fuck, OK.
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Can we shoot the introduction
again really quick?
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Do you want
your house behind you?
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I don't care.
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I'm going to show you
successful and unsuccessful
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places other
suspects have hidden
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their stash in this section.
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Fuck.
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The first time I saw
Never Get Busted,
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I had never seen
anything like it.
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It's a really good idea
to hide your stash
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in hard to find places,
such as way under the dash.
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The sheer nature of the story really just blew our minds.
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Ex-narcotic officer
that broke bad
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and was showing people how to
transport and cultivate drugs
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without getting busted.
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We've had bad policy
in America in the past.
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You know there was a time
when women could not vote?
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I think one thing that people
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really didn't like about
Never Get Busted
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was when my dad put a joint in
the straw of a kid's happy meal.
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Make it look
like a straw skin.
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Throw it in the Big Mac box.
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Like hide it in your
kid's happy meal?
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What the fuck is that?
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Shit. Taught me some hiding
spots, for real.
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- The hamburger deal.
- When I first saw them,
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I was still kind of
peddling here and there.
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I've always worked,
but I-- you know.
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And man, I was like, damn,
that's some new ideas
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I never thought
about right there.
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I often get asked
the question, Barry,
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why are you helping
people break the law?
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Fucking airplane.
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OK, let me start over.
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Why did I betray the police?
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What you have to understand
is I used to be a cop,
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but I didn't become a cop
to help people.
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That's a cliche bullshit answer.
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Police become police
for the excitement,
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the adrenaline rush,
and the power.
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Pull over.
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Pull over and stay there.
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How much have you
had to drink tonight?
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Too much.
How much is too much?
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I didn't have any passion
to join the war on drugs
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until I stopped a DWI
and found some marijuana.
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I get behind a truck
that's swerving.
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I turn on my red and blues.
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I do the field sobriety,
find him intoxicated.
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Count out loud.
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Try not to use
your arms for balance.
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One, two, three.
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That felt really good.
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Try it again.
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Arrest him.
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She's also drunk,
so I can't let her go.
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So I arrest her for
public intoxication.
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And as I'm searching
through her purse,
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I find a bud of marijuana.
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And I'm like, what's--
there's marijuana.
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Marijuana roach in the ashtray,
and I smell marijuana.
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OK, where's the marijuana at?
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And he had a half a joint.
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I'm like, here's more.
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Here's more.
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And it was like a big deal
to the jailers.
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And they're like,
Barry made a pot bust.
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I knew that was my field.
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I wanted to bust dope.
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I had read a book
on how to be successful.
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And one of the tips was find
somebody who's the best at it
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and copy them to a T.
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There was only one or two
really, really smart
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narcotics officers
in all of Texas.
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One was 60 miles from me.
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His name was Barry Washington.
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He was busting pounds
and pounds of marijuana
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and kilos of cocaine.
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And everybody was like,
well, he was a star.
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Nobody could figure out
how he was doing it.
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I'd rather catch
a great big load of dope
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than to do anything
in the world.
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I was a law enforcement
officer for the state of Texas
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approximately 32 years.
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I think that's what
God wanted me to do.
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There was a line of officers that wanted to ride with him.
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And I would just
pick up the phone.
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And he would push officers
out of the way to let me in.
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He liked me.
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I had a little philosophy
that I stood by.
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And I think that Cooper really
picked up on this part of it.
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The country boy act
is really good.
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I chewed a little tobacco.
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And I was just
a dumb country boy.
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When I stopped you, did I tell you what I stopped you for?
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Yeah, yeah, you did.
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Do you remember what that was?
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Not staying inside the line.
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OK, for swerving.
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For swerving.
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It made people really relax.
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And they would tell me more
than what they should have.
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Why did you let me
search your van
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if you knew it was
full of marijuana?
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Search it anyway.
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Well, that's not true.
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That might be what you think.
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If you had told me--
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I started walking like him,
talking like him.
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I learned the questions
he asked.
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What did you tell me
that this van was loaded with
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before I found out?
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I believe I said
medical supplies, didn't I?
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Medical supplies.
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Well, I'm not going to
tell you it's marijuana
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if you're not gonna look.
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No kidding.
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I learned everything
I could about busting drugs
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from Barry Washington.
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And then I went nuts.
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We weren't out there to
write speeding tickets.
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We were trained to watch if
somebody looked like a criminal,
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we were going
to pull them over,
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interview them,
and see what happened.
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That marijuana doesn't help
your asthma, now does it?
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That's bad on that asthma.
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That's harsh on your lung.
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Barry Cooper
was born to bust dope.
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You don't learn it that fast.
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I asked God to make me the best
drug officer on the planet.
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There were specialized task
forces that work narcotics.
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And I learned about drug dogs.
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There's a guy I graduated
the police academy with,
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and he had a drug dog.
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And my friend said, I'm
going to show you something.
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He took a bag of marijuana
and hid it in a car.
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Then his partner
starts working the dog.
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And the dog got to the source
and started scratching.
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Man, I thought that
was the neatest--
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I can't believe--
are you kidding me?
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I'm doing that.
I'm training my own dog.
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And I started--
and everybody was like,
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you can't train your own dog.
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These dogs are specially
trained in academies.
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So I did the research.
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And it cost $5,000 to buy one
of these dogs already trained.
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$5,000 was like
$5 million to me.
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There's no way I could do that.
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But I knew how to train a dog.
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You know, I trained
dogs to hunt raccoons.
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Barry took to
country life great.
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He loved training dogs.
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He loved to fish.
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He was always bringing
animals home.
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He loved snakes.
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Oh, god.
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Training a drug dog is very easy.
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Finding the right drug dog
to train is the hard part.
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The dogs that are used
to locate narcotics
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have a high prey drive.
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You know that dog that
just everybody hates?
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And he's jumping up on you.
And he's real hyper.
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And he can just chase the ball
over and over and over?
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That's the dog you want
to start training.
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Then you just scent the ball
with marijuana.
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And the dog starts equating the
smell of marijuana to his toy.
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He'll scratch at it.
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Get it out of there, Toby.
Get it out of there.
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That a boy. Dig it out.
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This is my dog, Toby.
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Got him certified
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through the National Narcotic
Detector Dog Association.
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Then they
had a competition.
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And out of 300 dogs,
he placed 13th.
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And I was the only
police officer there
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that had trained his own dog.
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Get it out of there, Toby.
Dig it out.
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Get it out of there, Toby.
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Get it out of there. That a boy.
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Oh, good puppy.
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Now listen to me.
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I'm going to bring
a dog through there.
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I'm going to look in it.
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Dogs don't miss nothing.
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"Claywater PD
cracking down on crackheads."
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"Barry 'Silver-tooth' Cooper
and the rest of the police force
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had implemented a zero
tolerance drug crackdown."
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The nickname "Silver-tooth"
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carried throughout my law
enforcement career.
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So when I would
pull somebody over,
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I'd just shine the flashlight
on my tooth.
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And that first year,
with three miles of highway,
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I made over 100 drug arrests.
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It was unheard of.
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If there are any drugs around, this hound will sniff them out.
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This afternoon, he found
a quarter pound of marijuana
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in Antonio Ruiz's toolbox.
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That's bad news for Ruiz
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and good work by the hound
and the drug team.
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But what happened at
the cult compound in Waco--
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I got noticed by one of the most successful
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drug task forces in the country.
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Barry, my name's Jack Brewer
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with the Permian Basin
Drug Task Force.
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Why do you want to come
out here and work for us?
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I feel like I could be an asset.
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I want to get around
a bunch of guys
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that are experienced to help me
learn so I can keep excelling.
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Barry come in with a dog of his own that he had trained.
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Had a rope around
his neck for a leash.
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And I thought, well,
where'd this guy come from?
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He was full of vinegar,
wanted to suit up every day
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and go out and find
this type of dope.
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He wanted to be top dog.
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Barry is one determined person.
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He gets something in his
head that he wants to do,
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and he doesn't stop
till it's done.
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I was making more cases than all the agents
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in the task force put together.
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You become a hero over
and over and over.
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It's quite a rush.
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Live from the Permian Basin's 24-hour news leader,
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this is the Big 2 News Update.
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There's not a single day that
doesn't go by on the interstate
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that we don't put somebody
in jail for narcotics
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or arrest somebody on a warrant.
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When I started working
for the drug task force,
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that's when I found out how the
war on drugs has really fought.
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I had envisioned what
I saw in Hollywood,
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that these tactical guys
had made a foolproof plan.
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This person go there,
that one goes there.
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They go in, get on the ground,
and it's all clean
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and goes according to plan.
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It's nothing like that.
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I got on the board,
everybody's listening.
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Here's the house.
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We just bought
some cocaine from it.
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We're going there
to kick their ass.
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Let's go.
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And that's all
the planning we did.
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Where's their location?
36.
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We're supposed to
wait for the jump out truck
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until it comes to
a complete stop.
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I had already jumped out
of the back of that truck
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and was halfway to the door
before the truck ever stopped.
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I was kicking in the door
with nobody behind me.
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I'm like, come on.
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We had flashbang grenades.
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And we'd run up and break
their fucking window out
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and throw it through them.
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Boom.
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Fucking nuts.
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Kids screaming, dogs barking.
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And there's nine of us running
around looking for somebody
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to point a gun at.
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Put your fucking
face down.
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It's absolute chaos.
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And the...
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...let me tone this down
because this is not cool.
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They would film the raids.
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We would take it back
to the police station,
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rewind it,
and watch it and laugh.
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And the funniest parts to us
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were the moments the person
was the most terrorized.
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When you kick in the door
and you run a pistol
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in their fucking head
and scream,
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"Motherfucker, I'm going to
blow your goddamn brains out.
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Get on the fucking ground."
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And they're like, doing that.
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We would laugh about that shit.
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That's fucked up.
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Why are the Texas police
so focused on people
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with a relatively small
amount of drugs on them?
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And it's because that's
where the money in policing
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has been for the past 40 years.
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These Texas task forces
get this grant money.
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They've got to show
something for it.
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They've got to show cases.
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And so if they can put
a case on a guy
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that wants to buy
a bump of meth,
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they'll put him in a conspiracy
with another guy.
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And they can round up 20
or 30 users and one guy
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that's slinging the dope.
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Put you hands
behind you.
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That shows the government's
getting their money's worth.
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When you look at how those
incentives were written,
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it wasn't lower the use
of drugs in this area.
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It wasn't lower
the supply of drugs.
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It said the number of arrests.
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You don't run from
the task force.
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The latter part of my career,
some old drug agents told me,
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hey, you find some money
and nobody's around,
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it's OK to snip a couple
hundred off the top
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and put it in your pocket.
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So I did.
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How much cash do you have?
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How much cash you got?
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There's money in that car, OK?
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I want the rest of the money out of those vehicles.
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Get it all, all the money
and the dope.
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No dope? OK, show me where
all the money's at.
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Now let's get it all.
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Man, you did good.
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You did real good.
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If they didn't have the veneer
of law enforcement behind them,
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then this would be
just a bunch of people
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with guns taking your shit.
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Now you have, I guess, one
Hispanic male under arrest,
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and you have seized
this vehicle as well?
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Yes, sir, we're going
to seize the vehicle.
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It was a white male that--
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But back then,
I remember feeling
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like I was
on top of the world.
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Nothing could go wrong for me.
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And I was so fucking wrong, man.
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Police!
Get down!
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Get down on the fucking ground!
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Get down! Get down!
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We raided a home, and there's a little girl and a little boy.
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We had the mom handcuffed.
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And I'm like, this mom
doesn't belong in handcuffs.
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She's not going to hurt me.
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And the kids are crying.
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We had a female
agent at the time.
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She was bending over,
telling the kids, "It's OK.
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We're going to take care of you.
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Come on outside with me."
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Telling these kids that
they're going to be OK,
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and mom's crying and screaming,
and dad's on the ground
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with a fucking
shotgun to his head.
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It was madness.
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It was madness.
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And I had two girls at home
waiting for me to get home.
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And I started thinking,
what the fuck?
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What if somebody thought I
had a bag of pot at my house,
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and they raided me
and caused that type of trauma?
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This is as I'm searching through
their house for evidence.
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And I noticed
the kids' report cards.
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00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:57,210
And they're straight-A students.
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This is a normal home.
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And we just fucked it up.
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Over pot.
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That caused me to start
putting the brakes,
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putting the brakes
on some things.
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Now I started questioning
what we were doing as cops.
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A check of the license plates
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led officers to the
driver's neighbourhood.
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When I first started out
busting people for drugs,
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I saw myself as this hero
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who was stopping the bully
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from ruining the community.
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We finished counting the money.
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00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:40,850
But we were stealing,
kicking people's doors in,
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00:20:40,850 --> 00:20:42,090
and ruining lives.
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Get on the bed.
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Get on the bed.
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Roll over.
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I realized I was the bully.
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When you realize you're wrong,
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00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:59,030
and the consequences
of you being wrong
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has caused irreparable
damage for that person.
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Anybody with a conscience,
got to fuck you up a little bit.
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00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:16,170
And it did.
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It did me for a long time.
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00:21:18,890 --> 00:21:20,690
I wasn't able to forgive myself.
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00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,160
Fortunately, I had
developed a relationship
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with the Christian God.
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00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,060
This is my husband.
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00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:35,580
This is me.
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We're headed to church
to see Brother Newman preach.
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00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,700
I needed to atone for
the damage I had caused.
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So I quit.
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And I was looking for
something else to do.
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Thank you, Jesus!
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00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:56,070
Thank you, Jesus!
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00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:01,720
Woo!
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00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,180
There's only three kinds of people in this world.
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There's people that
love Barry Cooper.
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00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:15,040
There's people that
hate Barry Cooper.
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00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,480
And then there's people that
never met Barry Cooper.
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00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:24,540
I'm Kathy Vaden, I was
Barry's rhythm guitar player.
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00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,040
And we would rock.
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00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,840
We would rock.
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00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:29,920
♪ Everybody sing! ♪
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00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:33,800
♪ Jesus, he will rock you ♪
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00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:37,340
I saw the God in Barry.
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00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,100
Barry could make people enter
another room spiritually.
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00:22:50,020 --> 00:22:53,680
I started what was called an R-rated church.
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00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:55,380
Kids weren't allowed.
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00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:59,680
And I talked about
sex and drugs.
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00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,720
It was a wine-drinking church.
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00:23:02,260 --> 00:23:04,940
Heck, you'd go there, and you'd
just get your buzz on, you know?
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00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,180
I'm going to church.
445
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,800
I'll be back in a little while.
446
00:23:16,730 --> 00:23:21,630
Everything that my dad's done has been 1,000%.
447
00:23:22,050 --> 00:23:26,310
My name is Kenzie Cooper,
and Barry Cooper is my father.
448
00:23:26,990 --> 00:23:27,990
Say hi, daddy.
449
00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:31,110
Daddy!
Yeah.
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00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:35,250
Whether he's a preacher or
a cop, whatever he's doing,
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00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:37,170
he's going to do it hardcore.
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00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,060
He's not just going to
have a little church.
453
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,660
He's going to have
an X-rated church.
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00:23:46,460 --> 00:23:47,580
It was a naked church.
455
00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:49,340
Yes, a nudist church.
456
00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:50,600
Why didn't I find out.
457
00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:52,500
He was swinging.
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00:23:55,490 --> 00:23:57,360
Don't look at the apple.
459
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,380
I laughed, because
people were like, hey,
460
00:23:59,380 --> 00:24:00,180
you went to church with me.
461
00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:01,360
I was like, yeah,
but I was fully clothed.
462
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,400
I was never naked.
463
00:24:05,620 --> 00:24:08,760
My pastor was like a father to me.
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00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,740
We were really, really close.
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Thank the Lord.
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00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:20,360
But I started suspicioning he was false prophesying.
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00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:23,280
Somebody in the congregation
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00:24:24,220 --> 00:24:27,680
would tell somebody else
in the congregation,
469
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,740
"I slept with two guys
this weekend,
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00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:33,340
and I feel guilty about it."
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00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:38,320
The person that was told that
would tell my pastor and me.
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00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,680
The next Sunday morning,
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00:24:40,820 --> 00:24:42,680
my preacher would
be preaching,
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00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,500
and he'd go,
sister such and such,
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00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:47,340
God has a message for you.
476
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Come up to the front.
477
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,300
The Lord is showing me
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00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,340
that you're ashamed of something
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00:24:55,340 --> 00:24:56,900
you did this weekend.
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00:24:57,270 --> 00:24:58,750
Said, "All right."
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00:24:58,860 --> 00:25:01,690
Lift your hands up
and tell me about your choice.
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00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,300
Hallelujah. Praise the lord.
483
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,080
I'm looking at it,
I'm like, that's bullshit.
484
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,240
That's false prophesying.
485
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,720
He said, "yeah."
486
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,560
He said, "Yeah, it's called
the okey-doke, son.
487
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,540
You didn't know that?"
488
00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:17,960
I'm like, no, I didn't know
anything about the okey-doke.
489
00:25:17,980 --> 00:25:19,440
I just thought it
was prophesying.
490
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,080
He says,
"No, that's what we do
491
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,480
in all these
churches around here."
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00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,620
I'm like, man, I--
broke, broke my heart.
493
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,820
And people didn't understand
that at the church,
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00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,700
how you can be
as dynamic as he was,
495
00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:39,080
and then just get up
and just walk away from it.
496
00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:40,820
Look at me.
497
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000
Look at me.
498
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,480
Look at me or I won't quit.
499
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,220
I was lost.
500
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,580
Me and my wife were going
through a hard time.
501
00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:51,780
Lay down, both of my kids.
502
00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:52,980
Good night.
Get a good night's rest.
503
00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:54,940
Don't forget to say your
prayers and give me a kiss.
504
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,520
I loved my first wife dearly.
505
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,600
I really loved her, but we
were not a match at all.
506
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,940
But the divorce happened because
I had a nervous breakdown.
507
00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:11,740
And it was from the things
I did in law enforcement.
508
00:26:16,370 --> 00:26:19,370
I started going to bars.
509
00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:22,010
And yeah, I drank heavy.
510
00:26:22,770 --> 00:26:24,230
Barry Cooper, what do
you want to drink?
511
00:26:24,790 --> 00:26:25,830
Vodka tonic.
512
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:27,350
All right.
Y'all know me.
513
00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:28,890
You be sure and get
a good picture of my ass.
514
00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:31,970
Peer pressure will get me involved in anything.
515
00:26:37,810 --> 00:26:40,720
Came all the way
from New Orleans.
516
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:44,510
Meeting Candi
really changed my life
517
00:26:44,510 --> 00:26:48,470
and headed me on the path
of where I am today.
518
00:26:51,070 --> 00:26:54,430
She taught me how to
not be so serious.
519
00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:06,930
My dad was like, girls, I want to tell you something.
520
00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:09,070
I'm dating Candi now.
521
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:10,710
And I was so excited.
522
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:13,430
I wrote about it in
my journal at school.
523
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,240
I was like, she's so cool.
524
00:27:20,540 --> 00:27:24,540
She's 24, and she likes
lip gloss and rap music.
525
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,180
I was obsessed with her.
526
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,740
And that never went away.
527
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,880
I'm still obsessed with her.
528
00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:31,760
I was not crazy about Candice.
529
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,500
I just thought she was
too slutty for him.
530
00:27:34,780 --> 00:27:36,320
I didn't like it, not one bit.
531
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:40,620
But I guess in his own way,
Barry was awfully slutty too.
532
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,920
♪ I love Candi ♪
533
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,610
♪ Boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom ♪
534
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:47,180
♪ She's so dandy ♪
535
00:27:47,260 --> 00:27:49,210
♪ Boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom ♪
536
00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:50,440
Things were going great.
537
00:27:50,580 --> 00:27:54,420
But I noticed people were
coming to her house a lot.
538
00:27:56,420 --> 00:27:59,720
And I wasn't stupid.
539
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,960
She was selling them weed.
540
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,340
Candi was a weed dealer.
541
00:28:13,050 --> 00:28:14,050
Hey, baby.
542
00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:16,310
She met me in the driveway.
543
00:28:16,650 --> 00:28:18,450
And she said, hey, smoke this.
544
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:20,990
I said, no.
545
00:28:21,130 --> 00:28:22,130
- Just say no.
- No!
546
00:28:22,510 --> 00:28:23,630
Say no to drugs.
547
00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:25,010
It hurts the user.
548
00:28:25,530 --> 00:28:26,530
It hurts his family.
549
00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:28,070
And it hurts his friends.
550
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:30,350
I just want to shake some
sense into you kids.
551
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:32,210
There's no way I could do that.
552
00:28:32,650 --> 00:28:34,290
This is your brain on drugs.
553
00:28:34,410 --> 00:28:35,410
Can't do that.
554
00:28:35,470 --> 00:28:36,960
♪ Don't need it ♪
555
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,060
♪ Just say no
to drugs, defeat it ♪
556
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:43,930
If you do drugs, nothing can
keep you from getting hurt.
557
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:47,210
I loved Candi.
558
00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:50,330
She convinced me that it was OK.
559
00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:54,970
So I took a puff.
560
00:28:57,770 --> 00:28:59,350
It was mind-blowing.
561
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,820
And she'd say, here,
take another hit.
562
00:29:09,820 --> 00:29:12,520
I said, no, I can't do
that over and over.
563
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,540
She said, yes, you can.
564
00:29:21,670 --> 00:29:25,410
And that's when I noticed
I'd smoked the weed,
565
00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:28,050
and the vodka wouldn't
taste good to me anymore.
566
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:29,190
And I liked the weed.
567
00:29:29,890 --> 00:29:31,090
There's Candi.
568
00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:34,470
I love you.
569
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:41,370
And she was wise enough to
keep dosing me with marijuana,
570
00:29:41,490 --> 00:29:44,590
knowing that's what I needed
to calm my drinking down
571
00:29:44,590 --> 00:29:46,550
and to make me a better person.
572
00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:49,690
Candi would make
anybody smoke a joint.
573
00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:51,690
I could see how she
could influence somebody
574
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:52,970
to try a little marijuana.
575
00:29:54,530 --> 00:29:56,310
She called it Candi-land.
576
00:29:56,730 --> 00:29:58,570
And she said, well,
I live in Candi-land,
577
00:29:58,750 --> 00:30:01,430
so stay in Candi-land
with me, Barry.
578
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,720
I would smoke the weed with
Candi and laugh and laugh
579
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,620
and laugh and laugh and laugh.
580
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:29,040
And that's when she started
talking about drug war,
581
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,040
and these people
don't belong in jail.
582
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,120
And I'm like, what?
583
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,100
The marijuana made me a completely different person.
584
00:30:39,580 --> 00:30:42,320
And I started reflecting
on the inside.
585
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,860
It was one of the biggest
eye openers in my life,
586
00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:47,000
was going from a former
narcotics cop
587
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,740
that had an alcohol problem
to an avid pot smoker.
588
00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:07,730
I was Republican, George Bush,
let's go to war.
589
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:14,150
A little racist, hardcore
justice, four or five months
590
00:31:14,150 --> 00:31:18,870
with Candi smoking marijuana
to, oh, man, I want peace, bro.
591
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:21,130
How are we killing
people in these wars?
592
00:31:21,450 --> 00:31:23,690
Why would I lock all
these people up?
593
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:26,710
I'm not going to tell
you where I got this.
594
00:31:26,770 --> 00:31:27,950
I found it out in the yard.
595
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:31,310
But Snoop,
596
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,580
I dunno, bro.
597
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,120
Whoa, whoa.
598
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:42,520
Probably now would
be a good time
599
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,980
to explain how "Never
Get Busted" got started.
600
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,120
I thought, you know,
this marijuana
601
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,020
has changed my life so much.
602
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,920
I'm going to teach people
how not to get busted.
603
00:31:57,780 --> 00:32:00,680
This guy raced into my office one day.
604
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,220
He said, I got this idea.
605
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,440
I'll make a lot of money
and help a lot of people.
606
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,620
I'm going to make this DVD.
607
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,740
And I'm going to tell people
how to hide their stash.
608
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,980
Because I was able to find it.
609
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,320
I ought to be able to hide it.
610
00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:16,760
The Drug Enforcement Administration,
611
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,680
the FBI, the ATF,
612
00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:22,240
I was cross-trained
by all of them.
613
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:24,060
And I was just going to
tell all the secrets.
614
00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:27,840
I asked him if what I was
doing was illegal or not.
615
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,380
He said, you should be protected
by the First Amendment.
616
00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:32,060
But he said, Barry,
I'm not sure.
617
00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:34,280
We got to thinking about it.
618
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,320
I said, well, you know what?
619
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:36,620
What are they going to do?
620
00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:38,660
It's the First Amendment deal.
621
00:32:39,060 --> 00:32:41,680
They are trained on
the public taxpayer's money,
622
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,080
they being law enforcement.
623
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,100
There's nothing there
that's a secret.
624
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,140
Once you train a man
and he knows this,
625
00:32:48,340 --> 00:32:49,540
that's his information.
626
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,880
And it's certainly free for him
to use it in another manner.
627
00:32:53,580 --> 00:32:55,300
Now, does he violate the law?
628
00:32:55,300 --> 00:33:00,340
I think he violates the law
if he stashes his own stuff.
629
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,210
Yell-o.
630
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,550
I pitched the idea
to this videographer,
631
00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:10,620
a guy with a video camera.
632
00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:19,220
I had made a short film about three friends
633
00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:23,740
who mysteriously get three
real dangerous lightsabers
634
00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:25,300
dropped off on their doorstep.
635
00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:28,090
Turn it off! Turn it off!
636
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:30,960
And then chaos ensues.
637
00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:34,220
Dude.
638
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,720
- Chicks.
- Chicks?
639
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,560
Chicks, dude.
640
00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:42,940
I was sitting
and playing video games,
641
00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:43,980
and then the phone rings.
642
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:46,720
"My name is Barry Cooper,
643
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,120
and I want to know if you can
help me make a documentary
644
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,280
about how to hide
your marijuana from the police."
645
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,220
And I remember being
like, I'm sorry,
646
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,700
you're going to have to
say that one more time.
647
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,440
"We are going to teach people
648
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,740
how to hide weed
from the police."
649
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,720
And I remember walking
around my kitchen going, OK.
650
00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:09,720
Kind of need the money.
651
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,500
And I'm intrigued,
652
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:14,880
because this is a rootin'
tootin' bag of weird shit.
653
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:19,320
You know, I didn't have a very
long conversation with myself.
654
00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:21,420
I immediately wanted to do it.
655
00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:25,230
CR Kaltenthaler.
Kalenthaler?
656
00:34:26,370 --> 00:34:27,410
Kalenthaler,
is that right?
657
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:28,840
Kaltenthaler.
Kaltenthaler.
658
00:34:30,730 --> 00:34:33,330
Some people are under
the misconception
659
00:34:33,330 --> 00:34:36,530
that an individual
named C.R. Kaltenthaler
660
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:38,870
shot and cut
Never Get Busted.
661
00:34:39,130 --> 00:34:41,470
But the truth is that it was me.
662
00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:42,910
I did it under an alias.
663
00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:46,810
I did it under a fake name.
664
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:48,710
That's what I--
that's what I did.
665
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,220
I kept it a secret because
I was concerned
666
00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:01,140
they're all going to go to jail.
667
00:35:01,420 --> 00:35:04,540
There's this thing hanging
in the air of this hammer
668
00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:07,080
that could fall on you
for sharing
669
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,580
this forbidden knowledge.
670
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:10,720
Check, check, check.
671
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,740
My name is Barry Cooper.
672
00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:17,270
There was no script.
673
00:35:18,430 --> 00:35:21,550
This is coming right off
the top of Barry's head.
674
00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:23,610
Are you ready, Barry?
675
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:26,990
I'm here today to teach you
with this DVD
676
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:29,110
how not to get busted.
677
00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:34,200
How's that, Dad?
678
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:38,410
Barry needed direction, and he
needed someone to rein him in
679
00:35:38,410 --> 00:35:39,710
that he was a lot.
680
00:35:40,090 --> 00:35:41,090
Pores.
681
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:43,510
Start again.
682
00:35:44,530 --> 00:35:45,760
God damn.
683
00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:46,830
Good job.
684
00:35:48,130 --> 00:35:51,450
Barry, to some ears,
sounds stupid.
685
00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:54,110
You learn that
it's easy to underestimate
686
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:55,350
Barry's intelligence.
687
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:59,070
Do coffee grounds mask the odour of marijuana?
688
00:35:59,330 --> 00:36:00,390
Absolutely not.
689
00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:02,990
He really knows his shit.
690
00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:07,670
I found it was nearly
impossible to get my dog
691
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:11,250
to search for any marijuana if
somebody had a cat in the car
692
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:13,410
or some other type of animal.
693
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:18,550
So these deer scents and fox
urines that hunters use,
694
00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:21,750
it's a good idea to spray
your tires with that.
695
00:36:22,330 --> 00:36:24,630
It's a good idea to
carry a cat in your car
696
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:26,670
if you're going to have a couple
of marijuana cigarettes.
697
00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:28,570
Throughout the making
of "Never Get Busted,"
698
00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:30,790
I knew that I was the audience.
699
00:36:30,890 --> 00:36:33,890
Another really good idea
is to conceal your stash
700
00:36:33,890 --> 00:36:35,880
as high as you can get it.
701
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,670
I had been arrested for
a small amount of marijuana.
702
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,440
In headliners of vehicles.
703
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:41,270
I've been in lockup overnight.
704
00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:42,770
It's scary.
705
00:36:42,970 --> 00:36:45,530
Somehow, my dad was able
to get my record expunged.
706
00:36:46,350 --> 00:36:49,650
But the impact it
had on my life was that
707
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:54,970
it became this expensive,
scary, embarrassing moment
708
00:36:54,970 --> 00:36:56,630
in front of my parents.
709
00:36:56,830 --> 00:37:00,050
Wear latex gloves when
you're hiding your stash.
710
00:37:00,430 --> 00:37:03,870
And so I was 100% hooked
on what he was going to say
711
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:05,870
to make sure that never
happened again.
712
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:10,070
I had an informant tell me
that he never carried
713
00:37:10,070 --> 00:37:11,790
more than he could eat.
714
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:13,890
I'd never heard
anybody say that.
715
00:37:13,890 --> 00:37:14,890
"Just eat it."
716
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:16,270
And I'm here to tell you
I've done that
717
00:37:16,270 --> 00:37:17,630
at least five times in my life.
718
00:37:17,730 --> 00:37:19,310
Corvettes are just cop magnets.
719
00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:21,110
She was wiping her nose.
720
00:37:21,210 --> 00:37:24,290
I would automatically assume
she's been snorting coke.
721
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:27,080
OK, these guys
I would consider users.
722
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:32,110
His experience and knowledge
of how the war on drugs
723
00:37:32,110 --> 00:37:33,950
is fought on the streets.
724
00:37:34,110 --> 00:37:35,670
Single male, no family.
725
00:37:35,970 --> 00:37:38,330
Day to day, hour to hour
on the highway.
726
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:41,650
This guy being a Toyota,
I'm thinking South American.
727
00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:44,790
Yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, one, two, three.
728
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:46,290
He knew it completely.
729
00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:48,930
He was rattling these
things off so fast.
730
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:50,370
You've been arrested before?
731
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:52,210
In this traffic
stop video,
732
00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:55,350
you'll see me make
actual narcotics arrest,
733
00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:57,650
caught from my dash
mounted patrol camera.
734
00:37:58,290 --> 00:38:00,030
When you think about
what a betrayal,
735
00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:04,590
what he was doing is to
the people who trained him,
736
00:38:05,070 --> 00:38:06,610
this was going to
be something that
737
00:38:07,310 --> 00:38:10,830
was going to blow people's
minds and be big.
738
00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:13,310
You're going to travel with
the High Times magazine
739
00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:15,070
or any other cannabis magazines,
740
00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:17,790
keep them hidden
and out of sight as well.
741
00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:24,950
But I don't think Barry was 100%
aware of what this could mean.
742
00:38:25,090 --> 00:38:26,090
We're rolling,
whenever you're ready.
743
00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:28,290
So now my work is finished.
744
00:38:28,410 --> 00:38:30,170
The DVD is in your player.
745
00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:33,730
Grab some popcorn
and your favourite cold drink
746
00:38:33,730 --> 00:38:34,910
and let's get started.
747
00:38:35,970 --> 00:38:38,010
We were finished making
Never Get Busted.
748
00:38:38,830 --> 00:38:41,990
I was just going to sell the DVD
in High Times magazine
749
00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,090
to a few stoners.
750
00:38:45,870 --> 00:38:48,270
So I went to meet with them.
751
00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:03,550
When Barry walked
into our office,
752
00:39:03,870 --> 00:39:05,550
he wanted to take an ad out.
753
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:09,510
I thought, you've
been fucking up
754
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:12,250
the lives of my friends,
of my community,
755
00:39:12,430 --> 00:39:13,850
of the readers of this magazine,
756
00:39:14,490 --> 00:39:18,270
and now you want to come in
and sell something.
757
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:20,490
A lot of people
were like, fuck that.
758
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:23,610
We don't like cops,
and with good fucking reason.
759
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:26,940
Barry is our worst nightmare.
760
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:36,310
I wrote articles every month
about people
761
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:39,830
who had their lives torn
apart by a Barry Cooper.
762
00:39:42,610 --> 00:39:44,370
We were beyond skeptical.
763
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:46,910
Man, I didn't know how
to handle these geeks.
764
00:39:46,990 --> 00:39:47,990
I scared them.
765
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:50,570
There were also people on
the staff of the magazine,
766
00:39:51,070 --> 00:39:55,410
myself included, who thought
this could all be an op,
767
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:58,750
a way to try to
infiltrate the magazine
768
00:39:58,750 --> 00:39:59,890
with an informant.
769
00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:06,890
So now my work is finished.
770
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:08,730
The DVD is in your player.
771
00:40:08,910 --> 00:40:11,270
We're going to talk
about canines.
772
00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:15,030
We're going to talk about
concealing your stash.
773
00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:17,250
We're going to talk about
search and seizure.
774
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:19,830
We're going to talk
about profiling.
775
00:40:20,030 --> 00:40:22,610
We're going to watch--
When I watched the DVD,
776
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:25,930
it was like a Rosetta Stone.
777
00:40:26,330 --> 00:40:28,710
It translated cop
778
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:31,670
into a language
that we understood.
779
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:35,050
You know, for our audience,
that's news you can use.
780
00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:36,890
So I did take it seriously.
781
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:42,110
I convinced them to let me advertise in the magazine.
782
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:46,020
We released the DVD.
783
00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:48,660
It ripped minds apart.
784
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,940
Fucking sales
go through the roof,
785
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:53,060
and I'm like, I'm rich.
786
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:55,880
Oh, my god.
787
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,860
And that's when I realized I had done something
788
00:41:00,860 --> 00:41:02,140
that nobody else had ever done.
789
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:04,200
You having fun so far, Barry?
790
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:06,520
Oh, I'm having a fucking ball.
791
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,120
He just wanted to do
what he wanted to do
792
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040
and not worry about
the consequences.
793
00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:15,900
Now, who would do that?
794
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:17,960
Would you do that? No.
795
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:20,890
Hey.
796
00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:24,090
And that's when a reporter showed up at my door
797
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:26,710
and said I was
going to be on the front page
798
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:28,450
of every newspaper
in the world tomorrow.
799
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:36,100
I don't care
if a dog bites a man.
800
00:41:36,820 --> 00:41:39,540
But if a man bites a dog,
I want to hear all about it.
801
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:42,020
And that's what Barry was.
802
00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:43,980
It was a man bites dog story.
803
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,470
He said, "Well, you've got a lot
of police officers pissed off."
804
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:49,380
I said, "Well, you know what?
805
00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:50,700
They've got me pissed off.
806
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:53,960
Because what I'm doing
is the right thing to do
807
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,260
and the wrong about caging
people for marijuana."
808
00:41:57,020 --> 00:42:00,780
For Barry to come from
being the enforcer
809
00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:02,480
to fighting the enforcers,
810
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,660
that's why it caught
so much attention.
811
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,660
I'd never dropped a story
in the national press
812
00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:09,660
and had it go that wide
that fast.
813
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:11,980
The article comes out.
814
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:15,300
CNN emailed,
wanted an interview.
815
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:16,300
Fox wanted an interview.
816
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:18,900
All that. I'm like, holy shit.
817
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,100
What do I do?
818
00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:22,400
- Called my lawyer.
- This is Bobby Mims.
819
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,440
I said, "Get over
here now, please."
820
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,820
And I said, "Well, first of all,
don't talk to Fox.
821
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,840
They're about as far
right wing as you can get.
822
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,580
I said, "I know my arguments."
823
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,460
If I get on television
and I whoop my enemy,
824
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:38,220
that's going to last.
825
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,360
So I chose Fox on purpose.
826
00:42:44,890 --> 00:42:47,220
is already riled
up about this next guest.
827
00:42:47,290 --> 00:42:49,370
You have to imagine
a cop who advises
828
00:42:49,370 --> 00:42:51,130
dopers how to hide their stash.
829
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:52,450
You know, Barry,
you're reminding
830
00:42:52,610 --> 00:42:54,950
more of what NAMBLA does
with sex offenders.
831
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:57,950
NAMBLA teaches the child
rapist how to do it,
832
00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:58,890
how to get away with it.
833
00:42:58,890 --> 00:43:02,070
There is a big difference in
somebody that molests a child
834
00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:03,970
and somebody that
smokes a joint.
835
00:43:04,030 --> 00:43:06,810
In fact, we're kicking child
molesters out of prison
836
00:43:06,810 --> 00:43:07,750
at an alarming rate
837
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:10,570
to make room for the
750,000 pot smokers a year.
838
00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:12,290
You're also teaching
the bad guys.
839
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:13,170
And you know the correlation
840
00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:14,930
between marijuana
and these kind of crimes. - They're not bad guys.
841
00:43:15,850 --> 00:43:17,030
So you're making
crime worse, too.
842
00:43:17,140 --> 00:43:18,420
And you should be
ashamed of yourself.
843
00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:21,630
No, no. You should be ashamed
for those type of statements.
844
00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:24,370
I don't have much to say about
those early media appearances
845
00:43:24,370 --> 00:43:26,710
other than
he kicked ass on them.
846
00:43:26,930 --> 00:43:28,610
It's not just pot
that they might have.
847
00:43:28,610 --> 00:43:29,970
If pot smokers are criminals,
848
00:43:30,070 --> 00:43:32,040
then 42% of America
is criminals,
849
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:36,590
according to the CDC, 42% of
America has tried marijuana.
850
00:43:37,070 --> 00:43:40,280
He was one of the first
to start showing
851
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,470
how it really goes on in drug
interdictions and drug busts.
852
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:47,550
And he had, quite frankly,
had a lot more credibility
853
00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:49,030
than we do as criminal
defense lawyers
854
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:50,110
because we represent criminals.
855
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:51,990
Barry Cooper,
why would you do this?
856
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:55,230
Logic, reason, and compassion,
and the facts and the evidence.
857
00:43:55,450 --> 00:43:56,750
He's doing radio interviews.
858
00:43:56,890 --> 00:43:58,050
He's taking phone calls.
859
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:59,610
The whole thing escalated.
860
00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:01,890
It's going to take
true activism.
861
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:05,050
And this is activism?
This is activism? - It's going to take compassion.
862
00:44:05,050 --> 00:44:05,720
- You're trying to--
- It's going to take reason and logic--
863
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:06,720
You're trying to help drug
dealers. - end the war on drugs.
864
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:11,410
It just seems like
a way to get stoners
865
00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:13,750
into some really goofy
problems with police, to me.
866
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:15,250
You know, but I mean,
it's just vile.
867
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:17,550
I mean, these people
are just vile.
868
00:44:17,630 --> 00:44:20,110
I kind of liked when he was
an asshole to other assholes.
869
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:23,130
People smoke pot, and then
they use bad judgment. - Let me speak.
870
00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:25,050
Barry didn't back down.
871
00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:27,550
He would state the facts.
872
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:31,910
According to FARS, the Fatal
Accident Reporting System,
873
00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:34,430
alcohol and tobacco
kills 100,000 people.
874
00:44:34,430 --> 00:44:38,630
And because of his background,
it was much harder
875
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:40,150
for them to dismiss him.
876
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:42,610
Not one single death
has been contributed
877
00:44:42,610 --> 00:44:44,070
to marijuana overdose.
878
00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:46,470
- It's my opinion.
- You're letting her spew garbage.
879
00:44:47,230 --> 00:44:49,770
The DEA had made
a statement in the paper
880
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:52,030
that they didn't know if they
were going to arrest me or not.
881
00:44:53,330 --> 00:44:56,330
Phones were ringing,
helicopters flying around,
882
00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:57,430
little airplanes.
883
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:59,850
I couldn't tell which
ones were reporters
884
00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:01,170
and which ones were cops.
885
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:04,950
Accusations about dope-smoking
cops and responses
886
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:07,730
from some very angry
narcotics officers.
887
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:08,970
In a word, betrayal.
888
00:45:08,970 --> 00:45:13,150
You cannot turn your back
on your people.
889
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:16,510
When you do,
you're going to wake up,
890
00:45:16,510 --> 00:45:18,950
and God is going to
chuck you out the door,
891
00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:22,390
because you're a liar
and you're a thief.
892
00:45:23,410 --> 00:45:24,530
The cops are pissed.
893
00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:27,050
That may have something
to do with the white truck
894
00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:28,650
that followed us around
all day yesterday.
895
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:31,850
I started to get real spooked.
896
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:34,710
What Barry saw as justice
897
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:37,130
the government saw as betrayal.
898
00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:41,840
OK, man, what you want?
899
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,040
After I released
the "Never Get Busted" DVDs,
900
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:51,560
you have no idea how many times
I woke up with the police
901
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,600
beating on our door.
902
00:45:53,540 --> 00:45:54,940
I lost count how many times.
903
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,920
More than 20, less than 50.
904
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,340
This is like the fifth
or sixth time
905
00:45:59,340 --> 00:46:02,340
y'all have been here
for weird, crazy stuff.
906
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,420
Okay, sir,
907
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,700
well this is the first
time I've ever been here.
908
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,580
They constantly harassed me,
pulled me over, and searched me.
909
00:46:14,350 --> 00:46:15,350
Hello?
910
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:18,410
And that's when I got a call
from this guy out in Hollywood.
911
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:19,870
This is Barry Cooper.
912
00:46:20,170 --> 00:46:21,370
My name is David Ballard.
913
00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:23,130
I'm a Hollywood producer.
914
00:46:23,370 --> 00:46:24,830
And I put two
and two together,
915
00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:27,690
and I had the idea of pitching
a reality show.
916
00:46:28,910 --> 00:46:31,890
I was going to
call it "KopBusters."
917
00:46:32,890 --> 00:46:36,150
We are headed to Hollywood.
918
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:38,390
We're on the airplane in Austin.
919
00:46:39,090 --> 00:46:40,090
All right.
920
00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:41,990
- Big movie deal.
- Toodles.
921
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Bought a plane ticket and flew over to see this guy.
922
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:55,860
My name is David Ballard.
923
00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:57,880
I'm a writer, producer, actor.
924
00:47:00,530 --> 00:47:02,210
Ahh!
925
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,260
And I helped Barry Cooper
get into show biz.
926
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,140
I produced a show
called "MANswers."
927
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,440
It was as politically
incorrect a show
928
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,340
as you could possibly imagine.
929
00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:19,720
When the bullets start flying, a dude's ass is grass
930
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:21,420
unless he's got protection.
931
00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:24,200
But why should a guy buy
a bulletproof vest
932
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,140
when he can grow one instead?
933
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,540
How fat would a dude have
to be to stop a bullet?
934
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,260
The mandate of MANswers
935
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:39,280
was boobs, beer,
guns, and drugs.
936
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,280
As part of my official duties,
937
00:47:42,740 --> 00:47:47,460
I was required to watch every
ridiculous video ever made.
938
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,060
So hiding marijuana
in food is a good idea.
939
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,980
I watched "Never Get Busted."
940
00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:56,180
Barry knew a ton about drugs.
941
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,590
It's a really good idea--
942
00:47:57,690 --> 00:47:59,510
It was MANswers 101.
943
00:47:59,620 --> 00:48:00,620
Sign this guy up.
944
00:48:02,060 --> 00:48:04,840
It's like your classic moment
where you call someone
945
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,780
and you go, "Hey, kid,
you're going to be a star."
946
00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:15,940
OK, right now, say it.
947
00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:18,010
- Welcome to Hollywood.
- All right.
948
00:48:18,010 --> 00:48:19,110
Wait, wait, wait, David.
Wait, wait, wait.
949
00:48:19,450 --> 00:48:21,170
So we're here with
our manager, Dave-o.
950
00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:23,350
We're about to sign
some big deals.
951
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:25,590
Watch what I'm telling you.
Bye. - Don't jinx it.
952
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:28,090
One of the stories
we did with Barry was--
953
00:48:28,690 --> 00:48:31,190
Can a police dog sniff
drugs and get high.
954
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:36,010
If a police dog were to ingest
crack cocaine during a bust,
955
00:48:36,290 --> 00:48:38,270
that canine would get high.
956
00:48:38,730 --> 00:48:41,990
You know, the guy, he's--
pretty much of a natural.
957
00:48:42,370 --> 00:48:43,750
- And who are you?
- I'm Sabrina.
958
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:46,400
Sabrina, what do you do
up here in this office? - Intern.
959
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,130
The intern. Very nice.
Very nice. OK.
960
00:48:50,350 --> 00:48:51,670
After we finished MANswers,
961
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:53,850
Barry pitched me this idea
962
00:48:53,850 --> 00:48:56,430
for a reality show
called "KopBusters,"
963
00:48:56,810 --> 00:49:00,030
where he would go around
and bust crooked cops.
964
00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:01,750
I was like, OK, cool.
965
00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:03,410
Let's try and sign a deal.
966
00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:04,890
Get in the picture.
967
00:49:05,330 --> 00:49:06,670
We'll go see Kevin Booth.
968
00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:09,770
We're going by his
Hollywood house on the way
969
00:49:09,770 --> 00:49:10,930
to the hotel to have a meeting.
970
00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:13,890
I think it's been pretty well
established that Barry is not,
971
00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:16,390
by nature, a shy individual.
972
00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:19,770
Look at the list of people where we'll be meeting.
973
00:49:23,570 --> 00:49:25,650
He didn't think
it's any big deal
974
00:49:25,650 --> 00:49:28,790
to call up Adam Sandler's
production company,
975
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:30,550
or Steven Spielberg.
976
00:49:31,850 --> 00:49:34,050
Oh, shit, I wasn't
recording that whole time.
977
00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:36,550
So we went all over the place.
978
00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:38,390
And Barry went in there
and did his thing.
979
00:49:38,770 --> 00:49:41,470
I'd ask him, I'd say, hey,
I can bust these cops.
980
00:49:42,110 --> 00:49:44,610
Would y'all make
a reality show out of it?
981
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:48,150
And they're like, "Yeah,
but go bust one first."
982
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:53,060
And that's when I got a call
983
00:49:53,060 --> 00:49:55,060
that got the whole
thing started.
984
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,060
Hey, this is Barry Cooper.
985
00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:59,230
Leave a message.
986
00:50:01,340 --> 00:50:03,160
This is a message
for Barry Cooper.
987
00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:06,400
I want to talk to you
about a friend of mine,
988
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Yolanda Madden.
989
00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:11,940
Something really bad happened
to her with the cops in Texas.
990
00:50:20,420 --> 00:50:22,350
Can you turn
your truck off for me?
991
00:50:24,380 --> 00:50:25,630
This your daughter?
Sure is.
992
00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:27,250
What's your name?
Yolanda Madden.
993
00:50:27,350 --> 00:50:29,620
OK, step back here for me
real quick.
994
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:30,970
Come on back here.
995
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,000
I just know that was the beginning of an end for me.
996
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,360
Any drugs that are in there?
997
00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:38,740
Growing up, we were
always taught,
998
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,980
you know, as long as
you do the right thing,
999
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,340
the right thing
comes back to you.
1000
00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:43,120
That police were the good guys.
1001
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,960
If you're in trouble, they
are the ones to go to.
1002
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,740
But if things like
this can happen to me,
1003
00:50:48,820 --> 00:50:49,820
you have to ask yourself
1004
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,360
how many innocent people
are locked up.
1005
00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:54,920
My name is Yolanda Madden Smith.
1006
00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:58,280
My part
in the Barry Cooper story
1007
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,880
is how KopBusters started.
1008
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,040
91.7--
TX and G Houston--
1009
00:51:05,170 --> 00:51:06,790
Houston's--
Positive hip hop and--
1010
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Pop.
1011
00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:14,100
The day started like any other day.
1012
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,920
My daughter and I were
going to run to town
1013
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,020
to go to the grocery store.
1014
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,720
My son was at home.
1015
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,600
He was quite a bit
older than my daughter.
1016
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,820
Being a single working mom
with two kids was nonstop.
1017
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,220
I loved every minute
of it, though.
1018
00:51:27,970 --> 00:51:29,310
I got a phone call.
1019
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:30,670
- Hello?
- Hey, Yolanda.
1020
00:51:30,670 --> 00:51:31,610
It's Keith.
1021
00:51:31,610 --> 00:51:33,590
Keith is one of
my son's friends.
1022
00:51:34,510 --> 00:51:36,870
He said there was
a Game Boy bag that my son
1023
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:38,310
had left at his apartment.
1024
00:51:38,750 --> 00:51:39,950
You want to swing
by and pick it up?
1025
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:46,280
My daughter and I went
by Keith's apartment.
1026
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,840
He came out.
1027
00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:53,100
I throw the Game Boy bag
into my backpack that I had
1028
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:54,560
and go to the grocery store.
1029
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,600
When we pulled into the
grocery store parking lot,
1030
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:02,200
the next thing I knew,
I had a cop car behind me.
1031
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,580
And suddenly,
I'm surrounded by police.
1032
00:52:06,770 --> 00:52:09,550
Told me that they were doing
a narcotics investigation.
1033
00:52:09,890 --> 00:52:11,350
Asked me if they could
search the truck.
1034
00:52:12,910 --> 00:52:16,010
And I'm thinking to myself,
this is my dad's company truck.
1035
00:52:16,650 --> 00:52:17,650
You know? No.
1036
00:52:18,050 --> 00:52:19,670
No, you can't
search the truck.
1037
00:52:20,590 --> 00:52:21,670
And that didn't matter.
1038
00:52:22,030 --> 00:52:23,030
They searched it anyway.
1039
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:26,210
There was an officer
that went up
1040
00:52:26,210 --> 00:52:28,650
to the driver's side of
the truck, reached in,
1041
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:30,750
and pulled out the Game Boy bag.
1042
00:52:33,370 --> 00:52:35,890
The next thing I know, they're
cuffing me and putting me
1043
00:52:35,890 --> 00:52:36,930
in the back of the police car.
1044
00:52:38,590 --> 00:52:40,890
They charged me with
possession with intent
1045
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:42,210
to distribute methamphetamines.
1046
00:52:43,090 --> 00:52:46,310
It didn't matter how many times
you tell them, that's not mine.
1047
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:47,870
They don't believe you.
1048
00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:54,480
As soon as I could get a phone
call, I called my father.
1049
00:53:03,370 --> 00:53:06,670
When I got the call, Yolanda
totally freaked out.
1050
00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:08,050
She was totally upset.
1051
00:53:08,110 --> 00:53:09,110
She was shaking.
1052
00:53:09,110 --> 00:53:10,930
She said that she was
totally innocent.
1053
00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:13,430
But she was really honest.
1054
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:15,670
That was just part of the core
values we brought her up with.
1055
00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:20,590
My name's Raymond Madden.
1056
00:53:20,930 --> 00:53:22,990
I build electronic equipment
for the oil field.
1057
00:53:24,350 --> 00:53:27,610
I grew up in a little panhandle
town in Borger, Texas.
1058
00:53:29,070 --> 00:53:31,780
I was taught right's right
and wrong's wrong.
1059
00:53:34,820 --> 00:53:36,080
I was a total patriot.
1060
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,120
I joined the military,
1061
00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:40,420
seven-year active
duty in Vietnam.
1062
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:42,600
I thought that was my duty.
1063
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:45,550
Good, strong values
in the Marine Corps.
1064
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:48,660
Honour, duty, honesty.
1065
00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:50,000
They were words
that meant something.
1066
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:52,660
I believed that
you know, right's right
1067
00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:54,870
and an innocent person
ain't going to go to jail.
1068
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,680
I told Yolanda that we're
going to fight this,
1069
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,640
because the truth is
always the truth.
1070
00:54:05,110 --> 00:54:08,330
After I had bailed her out,
we went and got an attorney.
1071
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:13,750
Before the trial, I needed
to prove all these things
1072
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:14,970
that these cops were
saying are lies.
1073
00:54:16,110 --> 00:54:17,770
I had Yolanda drug tested,
1074
00:54:17,890 --> 00:54:20,050
which would prove
she wasn't on drugs.
1075
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,620
Those come back negative.
1076
00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:30,860
I went down the next morning
to the police station
1077
00:54:30,860 --> 00:54:32,740
and asked to see
the traffic stop video.
1078
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:36,900
We were told
that video does not exist.
1079
00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:39,320
Finally, a couple of
weeks before trial,
1080
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,580
I was able to come up
to get this video.
1081
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:45,970
In fact, we got the video
just before
1082
00:54:45,970 --> 00:54:49,110
it was going to be destroyed,
which was really interesting.
1083
00:54:49,650 --> 00:54:52,510
Why do you destroy any
evidence on an ongoing case?
1084
00:55:00,570 --> 00:55:02,230
When I looked at the video,
1085
00:55:02,410 --> 00:55:06,550
that's when I'd seen what the
whole story was really about.
1086
00:55:07,090 --> 00:55:08,090
Come on back here.
1087
00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:09,350
What's going on?
1088
00:55:09,350 --> 00:55:10,630
Any drugs or weapons in there?
1089
00:55:12,190 --> 00:55:13,830
Yes, any drugs in
there right now?
1090
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:15,150
Weapons?
1091
00:55:15,250 --> 00:55:16,250
Nothing at all.
1092
00:55:17,050 --> 00:55:19,250
We got information there's
supposed to be drugs in there.
1093
00:55:21,730 --> 00:55:22,730
Wait a minute.
1094
00:55:24,190 --> 00:55:26,380
We got information there's
supposed to be drugs in there.
1095
00:55:27,820 --> 00:55:30,280
We got information there's
supposed to be drugs in there.
1096
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:32,900
They knew there was
drugs in there.
1097
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,160
There was drugs
in the bag that Yolanda
1098
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,520
had picked up a few minutes
1099
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,480
before she was
stopped by the police.
1100
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:48,170
Next morning,
I went to see the guy
1101
00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:49,710
that gave the bag to Yolanda.
1102
00:55:50,530 --> 00:55:54,510
This guy actually confessed
to me that he set Yolanda up.
1103
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:56,670
His name was Keith Phillips.
1104
00:55:57,450 --> 00:56:00,410
He was in trouble because
he had gotten arrested
1105
00:56:00,410 --> 00:56:02,070
for possession of
methamphetamine.
1106
00:56:04,110 --> 00:56:06,790
The cops gave him
choices of going to jail
1107
00:56:06,790 --> 00:56:09,070
or working off
their drug charges.
1108
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,540
He told me the police were
looking for this big time
1109
00:56:15,650 --> 00:56:17,950
meth dealer called
the Ice Queen.
1110
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:22,230
The police didn't know
who the Ice Queen was,
1111
00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:26,250
but they had a list
of names of people
1112
00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:27,730
who were new to the area.
1113
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:30,950
Yolanda had just moved
back here to Odessa.
1114
00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:33,830
Her name was on that list.
1115
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:38,990
He was encouraged
by the cops to call Yolanda
1116
00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:40,150
and set up a meeting
with Yolanda.
1117
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:41,690
And then when he got there,
1118
00:56:41,830 --> 00:56:44,890
they gave him this bag that
was found in Yolanda's truck,
1119
00:56:44,890 --> 00:56:46,250
and he went and handed it
1120
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:48,010
to Yolanda under
false pretenses.
1121
00:56:49,290 --> 00:56:51,930
It's like, "Wow,
will you testify?
1122
00:56:53,290 --> 00:56:54,290
He didn't know.
1123
00:56:54,310 --> 00:56:56,110
If he testified, he was
going to go to jail.
1124
00:56:58,970 --> 00:57:01,130
Finally, he said,
"Look, I'll testify."
1125
00:57:01,970 --> 00:57:03,650
Well, if this guy's
going to testify,
1126
00:57:04,750 --> 00:57:06,170
Yolanda's going home.
1127
00:57:06,250 --> 00:57:07,250
It's a slam dunk.
1128
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,580
But when Keith testified
to the truth of the trial,
1129
00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:16,720
the judge found
that preposterous
1130
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,700
that the cops would do
something like that.
1131
00:57:18,860 --> 00:57:19,860
No way.
1132
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:29,410
I will never forget hearing
the guilty and realize, wow,
1133
00:57:30,450 --> 00:57:31,450
now what?
1134
00:57:36,220 --> 00:57:38,100
It's the biggest
shock of my life.
1135
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,920
I never imagined
her being sentenced
1136
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,060
to eight years in prison for
something that she did not do.
1137
00:57:46,540 --> 00:57:49,200
I've had some pretty tough
experiences in Vietnam,
1138
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,100
but I've never had anything that
tore my heart out like that.
1139
00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:57,260
I had to be--
1140
00:58:01,470 --> 00:58:03,050
I had
to be strong for her.
1141
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:10,240
I had to take her down to jail.
1142
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,460
My mom left the night
before with my kids,
1143
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,860
so they didn't have
to see me like this.
1144
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,680
And then Dad and I really
didn't sleep that night.
1145
00:58:29,470 --> 00:58:32,510
The thoughts in my head is I
was about ready just to beg him
1146
00:58:32,510 --> 00:58:33,510
to get me out of there.
1147
00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:37,750
But I didn't, because
I knew he would have.
1148
00:58:46,620 --> 00:58:48,740
The guards were
walking me to my unit
1149
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,780
when I heard the women
calling out, "Welcome to hell."
1150
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:56,300
And I thought,
what am I doing here?
1151
00:58:56,780 --> 00:58:57,800
I don't belong here.
1152
00:59:04,020 --> 00:59:05,360
I didn't give up.
1153
00:59:06,260 --> 00:59:09,400
I spent four years spending
all kinds of money
1154
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,400
trying to get an appeal
but they kept being denied.
1155
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,580
I went to the sheriff.
I went to the FBI.
1156
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,600
They said they couldn't
do anything for me.
1157
00:59:25,070 --> 00:59:26,910
I had been threatened
by the cops.
1158
00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:31,270
They told me,
you need to drop this.
1159
00:59:31,610 --> 00:59:33,030
Let your daughter
serve her time,
1160
00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:35,690
because what happened
to her can happen to you.
1161
00:59:38,620 --> 00:59:40,460
I had become desperate.
1162
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,960
I was looking for some help.
1163
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,100
And that's when I found
out about Barry Cooper,
1164
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,580
that this guy was a cop buster.
1165
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,760
Well, one thing I needed
was some cops busted.
1166
00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:56,100
You have 10 new messages.
1167
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,240
First new message received.
1168
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,900
When I got back
from Hollywood,
1169
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,370
I started going
through my messages.
1170
01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:04,500
This is a message
for Barry Cooper.
1171
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,840
"Out in Odessa, Texas, where you
used to work as a drug task
1172
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,020
force agent, the police
planted methamphetamine
1173
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,120
on this girl named
Yolanda Madden.
1174
01:00:17,820 --> 01:00:21,720
And she was sentenced to eight
years in federal prison.
1175
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,280
Her father wants your help,
1176
01:00:24,820 --> 01:00:27,000
because he can't get
any media attention.
1177
01:00:27,220 --> 01:00:31,900
And he's got the proof
that these police
1178
01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:34,220
planted the drugs on her."
1179
01:00:35,380 --> 01:00:37,500
Well, proof's a big word for me.
1180
01:00:41,470 --> 01:00:42,890
I called her back.
1181
01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:46,310
I told her, if he's
serious about it,
1182
01:00:46,990 --> 01:00:48,190
tell him I'll meet him.
1183
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,380
I needed to convince Barry that Yolanda's totally innocent.
1184
01:00:57,780 --> 01:00:58,780
I had to transport--
1185
01:00:58,780 --> 01:01:01,320
Break that down
into civilian time.
1186
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,560
- About 4-- 4-- 4:50.
- OK.
1187
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,020
Barry and I
come from different
1188
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:07,120
sides of the spectrum.
1189
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,820
I believe drugs are the
scourge of the earth.
1190
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,140
And I thought, man,
this guy's a little bit weird.
1191
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:15,840
He's tattooed.
1192
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,840
He smokes marijuana.
1193
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,380
So this was a totally
new deal to me.
1194
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:22,000
But I was down to my
last hurrah here.
1195
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,580
I mean, I needed to--
I needed to make
1196
01:01:23,580 --> 01:01:24,580
something happen.
1197
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,640
I'm desperate.
1198
01:01:26,460 --> 01:01:29,160
And he showed up by my house
with this stack of documents.
1199
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:31,480
And he tells me the whole story.
1200
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,680
OK. And these are
all police logtimes?
1201
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:34,980
These are all--
1202
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,040
They're on the camera.
1203
01:01:37,140 --> 01:01:38,140
They're on the video.
1204
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:43,460
Their police report said that upon stopping,
1205
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:47,760
Yolanda jumped out of
the car crying, "Oh my god,
1206
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,040
the drugs are in the car.
1207
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:50,100
They're in the car."
1208
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,220
And I watched the video.
1209
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,120
Drugs in there right now,
drugs-- nothing at all?
1210
01:01:57,530 --> 01:02:00,750
She never said anything
like that, nothing.
1211
01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:07,890
They claim Yolanda confessed
to having the methamphetamine
1212
01:02:08,410 --> 01:02:12,110
during an interrogation
by Officer John Doe.
1213
01:02:13,390 --> 01:02:15,610
Well, I looked over
at the jail records,
1214
01:02:15,610 --> 01:02:20,710
and Officer John Doe was booking
another prisoner in at the time
1215
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:23,610
he says he was getting
a confession from Yolanda.
1216
01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:30,520
An informant who had gotten
busted gave the bag to Yolanda.
1217
01:02:31,660 --> 01:02:33,720
A huge red flag.
1218
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,540
That's called an informant
plant, and it's illegal.
1219
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,940
I was aware of this when
I was working as a cop
1220
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,660
because some of
the agents did that.
1221
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,240
And this is where we need to talk about Joe Commander.
1222
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:59,300
This one right here,
this guy, Joe Commander,
1223
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,540
the little short guy.
1224
01:03:02,060 --> 01:03:06,760
He was sort of the undeclared
boss of my narcotics unit.
1225
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,640
He had connections fucking
from here to Egypt.
1226
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,700
I told you lies
will get you in trouble.
1227
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:20,380
If I had a law enforcement mentor, it's Joe Commander.
1228
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,720
He had a reputation as being
the baddest-ass cop in Texas.
1229
01:03:27,820 --> 01:03:31,180
We'd go up to a person that
we wanted to get out of town
1230
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:38,250
and drive up, and for no
reason whatsoever at all,
1231
01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:42,810
jump out of our car with guns,
say "Put your hands behind
1232
01:03:42,890 --> 01:03:44,810
your back," we'd cuff him.
1233
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,620
He'd be, like, "What's this
about? What's this about?"
1234
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:47,710
We'd search him.
1235
01:03:48,290 --> 01:03:49,850
If they didn't have
anything on them,
1236
01:03:50,810 --> 01:03:53,590
we'd take a little bag of
cocaine out of our pocket,
1237
01:03:54,590 --> 01:03:56,170
stick it in their pocket,
and they're like,
1238
01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:57,310
"What the fuck
are you doing?
1239
01:03:57,610 --> 01:03:58,910
What's going--
What are you doing?"
1240
01:04:01,850 --> 01:04:02,850
"We're planting you
like Farmer Brown."
1241
01:04:05,070 --> 01:04:07,730
We'd reach in and pull
the cocaine out and say,
1242
01:04:07,730 --> 01:04:12,030
"You get the fuck out of Odessa,
or the next time,
1243
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:15,690
you're going to jail
for this bag of coke."
1244
01:04:16,850 --> 01:04:18,650
And then we'd let them
go and drive off.
1245
01:04:18,650 --> 01:04:20,710
And they would leave.
1246
01:04:21,250 --> 01:04:24,430
And I'll tell you, if
there's any police officer
1247
01:04:24,810 --> 01:04:27,110
that you're gonna interview
for this documentary,
1248
01:04:27,110 --> 01:04:30,430
you would want to-- you would
want to talk to Joe Commander.
1249
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,060
Some people call them
informants, I call them spies.
1250
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:52,720
I had hundreds of spies.
1251
01:04:53,300 --> 01:04:55,140
You guys come put your hands
right up here on the front.
1252
01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:56,700
Both of you.
1253
01:04:56,860 --> 01:04:57,860
Right over here.
1254
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,520
Right up here.
1255
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,280
You too. How old are you?
1256
01:05:03,380 --> 01:05:05,540
- How old? 19? All right.
- 19.
1257
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,170
Say on a traffic stop,
when I search the car
1258
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,940
and I found narcotics, I'd take
the person in to the office,
1259
01:05:13,940 --> 01:05:18,060
interview them, debrief them,
and ask them straight up,
1260
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:20,240
"Do you want to work
this case off?"
1261
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,300
And they'd say,
"Well, what do I do?"
1262
01:05:24,260 --> 01:05:27,540
I said, "Well, I need you
to make three cases."
1263
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,880
If they made three bigger cases
than what I got them with,
1264
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,400
then their case would go away.
1265
01:05:38,570 --> 01:05:41,250
Mr. Phillips, what
did Joe Commander do
1266
01:05:41,250 --> 01:05:42,330
when he arrested you?
1267
01:05:43,250 --> 01:05:45,710
They were threatening me
on taking my kids away.
1268
01:05:46,650 --> 01:05:49,450
And they wanted me pretty much
to give up any information
1269
01:05:49,450 --> 01:05:51,150
I knew about anybody.
1270
01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:55,450
Was one of the names that they asked you to help them with
1271
01:05:55,450 --> 01:05:56,450
Yolanda Madden?
1272
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:58,910
Yes, sir.
1273
01:06:01,220 --> 01:06:02,360
Who brought
up that name?
1274
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,220
Was it you or them?
1275
01:06:05,140 --> 01:06:06,140
It was them.
1276
01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:09,860
Joe Commander had a picture of
her and was asking me about her
1277
01:06:10,380 --> 01:06:11,380
at that time.
1278
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,620
So you gave her something that caused her to be
1279
01:06:14,620 --> 01:06:15,820
arrested by the police?
1280
01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:19,600
I was asked to hand a little Game Boy case to Yolanda.
1281
01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:23,780
Just so I'm clear,
1282
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,080
when you handed this package
to Miss Madden,
1283
01:06:27,220 --> 01:06:29,780
you didn't tell her
there were drugs in it?
1284
01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:30,820
Correct.
1285
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:37,880
Mr. Madden hired the best polygraph operator on the planet
1286
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,040
who used to be a polygraph
operator for the FBI.
1287
01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:44,760
Polygraphed Yolanda.
1288
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,580
"Were these your drugs?" "No."
1289
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,880
Then she passed.
1290
01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:55,690
The informant on the deal
who set her up
1291
01:06:57,290 --> 01:06:59,670
polygraphed him,
and he passed too.
1292
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:05,110
Joe Commander, probably one of the most corrupt
1293
01:07:05,110 --> 01:07:06,490
police officers in Texas.
1294
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:11,890
A couple of years before
Yolanda was set up,
1295
01:07:12,430 --> 01:07:15,190
he was accused of planting
drugs on other people.
1296
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,560
I found out that the feds
had Joe Commander
1297
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,560
under investigation.
1298
01:07:26,820 --> 01:07:28,420
But nothing ever
happened to him.
1299
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:31,880
It was only after the trial,
1300
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,880
the assistant chief
of police told me,
1301
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:35,960
he said, "Well, Raymond,
1302
01:07:36,580 --> 01:07:39,120
what happened is they planted
drugs on the wrong person."
1303
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:42,660
And I said, "Well, Don,
tell me how you plant drugs
1304
01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:43,660
on the right person."
1305
01:07:46,070 --> 01:07:48,770
I never planted
drugs on anybody.
1306
01:07:49,530 --> 01:07:50,650
That was unacceptable.
1307
01:07:53,940 --> 01:07:57,680
I'm like, "Motherfucker,
they did your daughter, bro.
1308
01:07:58,140 --> 01:07:59,880
They did plant drugs on her."
1309
01:08:04,820 --> 01:08:07,400
Outside the courthouse, after the trial,
1310
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,160
one of the cops said,
"God, we almost got caught."
1311
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,680
And I'm sitting there
listening to that.
1312
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,720
He had to drop her
off in prison.
1313
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:24,740
His own daughter.
1314
01:08:28,030 --> 01:08:30,460
You ever been arrested before?
No, sir.
1315
01:08:30,570 --> 01:08:34,170
And it made me cry, because of
all the people I'd put in jail.
1316
01:08:40,270 --> 01:08:43,800
I also helped separate
parents from their children.
1317
01:08:47,940 --> 01:08:51,220
Barry felt he had a need to
make some things straight
1318
01:08:51,220 --> 01:08:53,100
that he had done out in Odessa.
1319
01:08:53,540 --> 01:08:57,000
So it was kind of a, you know,
a chance for redemption for him
1320
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,400
and a chance for me to get
my daughter out of jail.
1321
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:00,840
Let me flowchart this.
1322
01:09:01,540 --> 01:09:04,160
And he just said, "We've got
to get publicity for Yolanda."
1323
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:10,420
I told Mr. Madden, "I'll get Yolanda's story on the news."
1324
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,080
And I did.
1325
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,080
And it almost cost me my life.
1326
01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:21,420
See that tattoo?
1327
01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:24,960
Three weeks from now,
we're going to make
1328
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,360
this tattoo a reality.
1329
01:09:26,460 --> 01:09:28,350
Free our prisoners.
1330
01:09:28,460 --> 01:09:31,160
And Yolanda's name is
going to go right--
1331
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,160
That's right.
1332
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,600
Getting Yolanda out of prison.
1333
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:35,480
That's the main goal.
1334
01:09:36,050 --> 01:09:38,320
Second, busting
these crooked cops.
1335
01:09:40,670 --> 01:09:43,830
To get Yolanda Madden out of jail and prove
1336
01:09:43,830 --> 01:09:46,460
these cops are crooked,
we need to catch them
1337
01:09:46,460 --> 01:09:48,330
red-handed and get it on TV.
1338
01:09:53,860 --> 01:09:55,170
What you watching
on the Tube today?
1339
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,040
When I worked undercover,
I would lure somebody
1340
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,880
into a hotel room with drugs
and the other cops would be
1341
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,980
in the other room filming all
of it with hidden cameras.
1342
01:10:05,480 --> 01:10:08,920
And then they'd run in and bust
the guy once the deal was done.
1343
01:10:09,420 --> 01:10:10,420
Relax, Cory.
1344
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:13,340
We called it a trap house.
1345
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,400
So my idea was we were
going to set a trap house
1346
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,640
for the crooked cops.
1347
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,780
We're about to go to the trap
house that Candi and I rented.
1348
01:10:26,780 --> 01:10:27,840
Woo-hoo!
1349
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:29,550
The one on the right?
That's it, white and green.
1350
01:10:30,130 --> 01:10:31,490
That is--
Perfect.
1351
01:10:31,650 --> 01:10:33,780
We have a good one.
1352
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,000
- This is perfect.
- This is perfect.
1353
01:10:36,140 --> 01:10:38,010
Perfect trap house.
1354
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,820
The plan was to set up
a trap house
1355
01:10:49,820 --> 01:10:53,660
with a fake marijuana grow room,
then lure the cops in
1356
01:10:53,660 --> 01:10:56,500
so we could film them
performing an illegal raid.
1357
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,480
We're going to set the grow
light here with a few plants,
1358
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:03,200
of course not anything illegal.
1359
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:07,160
I'll get the police
to raid it illegally
1360
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:09,400
on a bump search warrant.
1361
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,820
I'll have the media with me.
1362
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,300
And when that happens, I'll
start screaming "Free Yolanda
1363
01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:21,380
and I'm doing this because
y'all planted drugs on Yolanda."
1364
01:11:22,820 --> 01:11:23,820
Internet's fine.
1365
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,320
I'll let you know
when you get here.
1366
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:27,380
Yeah, that's a go.
1367
01:11:30,370 --> 01:11:32,650
I would help set up
the camera crew
1368
01:11:32,770 --> 01:11:36,880
as Barry's
manager/producer/consultant.
1369
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:41,230
We're going to place our hidden cameras there, there.
1370
01:11:41,890 --> 01:11:44,950
When you think about it,
a sting operation,
1371
01:11:45,310 --> 01:11:47,650
it's sort of like making
a TV show already.
1372
01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:52,150
We will have
a "Free Yolanda" sign here
1373
01:11:52,150 --> 01:11:54,890
and instructions for the police
explaining to them
1374
01:11:54,890 --> 01:11:57,690
that they're on a reality
TV show, "KopBusters."
1375
01:11:57,690 --> 01:12:00,830
You find a location,
you set up the cameras,
1376
01:12:01,430 --> 01:12:03,890
and then there's the day
of production.
1377
01:12:04,110 --> 01:12:05,790
It's like, "Okay, action."
1378
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:10,090
Ten years ago, a crack
commando unit was sent to prison
1379
01:12:10,090 --> 01:12:12,290
by a military court
for a crime they didn't commit.
1380
01:12:12,670 --> 01:12:13,670
These men promptly escaped.
1381
01:12:13,850 --> 01:12:15,910
Mr. Madden agreed
to fund the operation.
1382
01:12:16,670 --> 01:12:19,290
Now we just needed
to hire a crack team
1383
01:12:19,290 --> 01:12:20,390
to pull this thing off.
1384
01:12:21,070 --> 01:12:23,590
If you have a problem,
if no one else can help,
1385
01:12:23,790 --> 01:12:26,750
and if you can find them,
maybe you can hire the A-Team.
1386
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:28,510
I'm a lawyer.
1387
01:12:28,930 --> 01:12:30,050
I'm a lawyer!
1388
01:12:30,250 --> 01:12:31,930
Don't get in my way!
1389
01:12:32,090 --> 01:12:34,810
And if you're prosecuting
my client,
1390
01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:37,970
you are in my way!
1391
01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:40,690
If you're watching this,
1392
01:12:41,230 --> 01:12:43,590
presumably either you
or a loved one
1393
01:12:44,130 --> 01:12:45,890
is looking for legal
representation.
1394
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,110
And what I want to do
is explain my method.
1395
01:12:49,190 --> 01:12:50,830
Hello?
Hey, how are you doing?
1396
01:12:51,130 --> 01:12:53,630
Barry calls me up, starts telling me about Yolanda Madden.
1397
01:12:54,210 --> 01:12:56,290
And he's telling me
that this guy testifies
1398
01:12:56,290 --> 01:12:58,510
about planting fucking drugs,
1399
01:12:59,770 --> 01:13:02,390
and then the judge
convicts the person.
1400
01:13:03,870 --> 01:13:07,810
So that was real
difficult for me.
1401
01:13:08,250 --> 01:13:10,770
He tells me that we're
going to go to Midland,
1402
01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:11,950
where his old, you know,
1403
01:13:12,290 --> 01:13:14,450
Permian Basin Drug
Task Force buddies
1404
01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:16,310
are still just
doing all the same shit,
1405
01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:17,730
and we're going to trip him up.
1406
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:20,440
So, without trying to set up
fucking dirty cops, let's ride.
1407
01:13:24,910 --> 01:13:26,390
I'm a fan of
the rule of law.
1408
01:13:26,930 --> 01:13:28,770
We all need
general rules to govern.
1409
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:31,210
What I can't stand
is when people abuse
1410
01:13:31,210 --> 01:13:32,270
their positions of power.
1411
01:13:38,050 --> 01:13:39,050
Barry?
1412
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:40,450
- Yeah.
- Finish it up.
1413
01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:42,470
All right, man,
I appreciate it.
1414
01:13:43,150 --> 01:13:45,710
Personally, I have a high opinion of officers
1415
01:13:45,710 --> 01:13:47,010
that do do their job well.
1416
01:13:48,810 --> 01:13:53,850
I just have a very deep hatred
for the ones that cheat.
1417
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:55,350
Barry, come on.
1418
01:13:55,650 --> 01:13:58,710
So when Barry asked for
my help, I said yes.
1419
01:14:02,210 --> 01:14:04,310
Barry approached me to be his bodyguard
1420
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:07,450
after he knew that I was
really good with my hands.
1421
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:09,330
And it wasn't in a boxing gym.
1422
01:14:09,490 --> 01:14:11,050
You know, we would
fight in a warehouse.
1423
01:14:11,310 --> 01:14:14,250
Bare knuckle, you win
$1,000 in 17 seconds.
1424
01:14:14,610 --> 01:14:15,610
Come on.
1425
01:14:15,650 --> 01:14:16,650
It's good money.
1426
01:14:17,170 --> 01:14:18,870
You're on TV. Say something.
1427
01:14:20,290 --> 01:14:21,470
You were on TV yesterday.
1428
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:23,330
I've never seen him
be bashful.
1429
01:14:24,130 --> 01:14:27,930
Growing up in a small town,
the police would harass you.
1430
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:30,970
So when Barry called me
and told me the plan,
1431
01:14:31,150 --> 01:14:32,810
I said, "Hey, let's
go whip their asses."
1432
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:35,090
I was sitting
and playing video games.
1433
01:14:37,330 --> 01:14:38,490
Barry's on the phone again.
1434
01:14:38,910 --> 01:14:40,450
"I think I'm going to
call it KopBusters.
1435
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:43,050
I think I'm going to do it
that way and bust the cops
1436
01:14:43,050 --> 01:14:44,410
and point it back at them."
1437
01:14:45,570 --> 01:14:48,550
I remember thinking,
"What the fuck?
1438
01:14:49,050 --> 01:14:51,670
The cops will beat the
ever-loving shit out of you.
1439
01:14:52,570 --> 01:14:53,790
Barry, this is the line.
1440
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:56,430
You can kiss my ass twice.
1441
01:14:56,890 --> 01:14:57,890
I'm out for good."
1442
01:15:01,710 --> 01:15:05,290
Our stated mission exactly
is to prove that these cops,
1443
01:15:05,290 --> 01:15:07,290
who were instrumental
in having this woman
1444
01:15:07,290 --> 01:15:09,660
put in federal prison,
are fucking liars.
1445
01:15:09,660 --> 01:15:10,660
That's right.
1446
01:15:10,830 --> 01:15:14,190
The whole idea is it's not a pot
issue, it's a freedom issue.
1447
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:17,910
If they do the proper
investigation,
1448
01:15:18,170 --> 01:15:19,630
they won't kick the door in.
1449
01:15:20,710 --> 01:15:23,910
But if they are who I think they
are, that door's coming down.
1450
01:15:24,090 --> 01:15:28,010
If the cops think for one
second they're getting set up.
1451
01:15:28,770 --> 01:15:29,770
- Do you know what I mean?
- Oh, yeah.
1452
01:15:30,890 --> 01:15:32,650
I felt the plan
was quite ambitious
1453
01:15:32,650 --> 01:15:34,090
and certainly dangerous.
1454
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:36,610
That wasn't my role,
was to have doubts.
1455
01:15:36,770 --> 01:15:39,070
My role was to help
advise on the legality
1456
01:15:39,070 --> 01:15:41,810
and the potential ramifications
of what could occur.
1457
01:15:42,250 --> 01:15:46,230
The legality was always
a great question
1458
01:15:46,770 --> 01:15:47,990
because no one's
ever thought of it.
1459
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:49,130
Like, "Is it legal to do this?"
1460
01:15:49,810 --> 01:15:51,530
I mean, we're busting cops,
1461
01:15:52,050 --> 01:15:53,770
and no one else has ever
done this before.
1462
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:56,630
I got a question
for the attorneys.
1463
01:15:57,330 --> 01:15:58,670
Honestly, what are
we looking at?
1464
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,930
As far as going to jail.
1465
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,680
Whether or not you can
publish your footage.
1466
01:16:04,780 --> 01:16:06,620
What I'm saying is--
I think you can publish anything--
1467
01:16:06,690 --> 01:16:08,240
I do too.
When it comes to the cops.
1468
01:16:08,370 --> 01:16:11,510
It's domain.
It's investigative journalism.
1469
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:16,250
We need the cops to break the law
1470
01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:19,290
by making an illegal
search of the house.
1471
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:22,690
And we've got to do it without
breaking the law ourselves
1472
01:16:23,150 --> 01:16:25,190
because nobody here
wants to go to prison.
1473
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:31,630
The law was very clear
about what the cops could get
1474
01:16:31,630 --> 01:16:33,390
a search warrant on.
1475
01:16:34,030 --> 01:16:38,090
They can't get a search warrant
based on just an anonymous tip.
1476
01:16:38,330 --> 01:16:41,010
Otherwise, I can get
mad at my neighbour
1477
01:16:41,010 --> 01:16:43,360
and pick up the phone
and make an anonymous call
1478
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,550
and say my neighbour's got a
kilo of cocaine in the house
1479
01:16:45,550 --> 01:16:46,610
and get him raided.
1480
01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:48,170
This is the front door.
1481
01:16:48,930 --> 01:16:52,010
If we called the police
1482
01:16:52,010 --> 01:16:57,590
and said there's a marijuana
grow house on Lotte Street,
1483
01:16:57,810 --> 01:16:59,730
that's false report to
a police officer.
1484
01:16:59,810 --> 01:17:00,810
That's against the law.
1485
01:17:01,590 --> 01:17:04,590
But there's no such law
as false report to a preacher.
1486
01:17:07,670 --> 01:17:11,130
To get the cops
interested in the house,
1487
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:13,590
I drafted a letter
1488
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:16,710
as if I was
a pissed-off girlfriend
1489
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:21,530
that said I got involved
with this guy
1490
01:17:21,530 --> 01:17:23,930
who's got 50 marijuana plants
1491
01:17:23,930 --> 01:17:26,170
growing at 232 Lotte Street,
1492
01:17:26,710 --> 01:17:29,030
and I feel guilty 'cause
I'm a Christian.
1493
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:34,530
And by the way, there's
$11,000 hidden in the chimney.
1494
01:17:35,130 --> 01:17:36,990
The bait we're
gonna use is money.
1495
01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:40,770
Barry knew drugs was not
what they was after.
1496
01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:42,770
It was money that they
were interested in.
1497
01:17:43,210 --> 01:17:48,050
And then Candi went
to a local church
1498
01:17:48,430 --> 01:17:50,950
and handed that
letter to a pastor
1499
01:17:52,270 --> 01:17:54,790
and said, "Look, I feel
bad about something.
1500
01:17:55,250 --> 01:17:57,150
Please read this letter."
1501
01:17:59,930 --> 01:18:02,470
So the preacher
gets the letter
1502
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:05,350
and did exactly what we
thought he would do.
1503
01:18:05,610 --> 01:18:07,090
He went and turned it
in to the police.
1504
01:18:07,810 --> 01:18:09,550
Okay, we're going
to walk into the mall
1505
01:18:09,550 --> 01:18:13,450
and buy a prepaid
Visa debit card
1506
01:18:13,450 --> 01:18:15,490
to order equipment online.
1507
01:18:15,710 --> 01:18:16,710
Come on.
1508
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,740
This operation was top secret.
1509
01:18:25,860 --> 01:18:29,240
I had to encrypt everything,
and I had to use blow-up phones.
1510
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:30,700
You know, get a phone
from Walmart,
1511
01:18:30,820 --> 01:18:33,000
use it for a little bit, throw
it away, get another phone.
1512
01:18:33,340 --> 01:18:35,880
I had to really use
every technique I knew
1513
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,760
to keep this from
getting leaked.
1514
01:18:37,860 --> 01:18:40,720
One of our agents just
quit all of a sudden.
1515
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,800
He called and said he was
worried about going to jail,
1516
01:18:44,060 --> 01:18:46,160
and I tried to explain
to him we weren't doing
1517
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,300
anything illegal,
but it's a high-pressure thing
1518
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:51,480
going on here, I guess,
with some folks.
1519
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,960
Understanding how police
illegally raid houses,
1520
01:18:56,580 --> 01:18:59,320
I set up a marijuana grow light.
1521
01:19:00,540 --> 01:19:01,540
Merry Christmas.
1522
01:19:02,140 --> 01:19:05,760
And instead of putting
marijuana plants under it,
1523
01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:07,340
I bought little Christmas trees.
1524
01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:15,810
We made a sign that said,
"There's nothing illegal
1525
01:19:15,810 --> 01:19:17,090
happening in this house.
1526
01:19:17,170 --> 01:19:19,710
You're part of a reality
show called 'KopBusters.'"
1527
01:19:20,010 --> 01:19:22,910
And within 10 minutes,
there will be
1528
01:19:22,910 --> 01:19:26,950
a group of activists
followed by a film crew.
1529
01:19:27,210 --> 01:19:29,930
We will all be
dressed in red shirts
1530
01:19:30,210 --> 01:19:33,630
that you see nailed
to the wall next to this sign,
1531
01:19:33,930 --> 01:19:35,310
and you will be approached.
1532
01:19:35,630 --> 01:19:38,730
What I wanted to do is
these cops raid a house.
1533
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:40,510
I didn't want to jump
on them right then
1534
01:19:40,510 --> 01:19:42,370
while their adrenaline was up,
'cause we'd get shot.
1535
01:19:42,750 --> 01:19:43,750
I made that sign.
1536
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:47,410
Yeah, spent hours on that.
1537
01:19:48,770 --> 01:19:53,150
Candi and my dad involved me in
pretty much all of the projects
1538
01:19:53,150 --> 01:19:56,450
and things that we did
regarding KopBusters
1539
01:19:56,450 --> 01:19:57,590
and Never Get Busted.
1540
01:19:59,250 --> 01:20:00,530
Oh, that's
our daughter. Sorry.
1541
01:20:01,010 --> 01:20:02,290
Hang on, let me go
get my daughter.
1542
01:20:05,420 --> 01:20:08,060
Okay, so my daughter just
got home from school.
1543
01:20:08,060 --> 01:20:09,060
This is Kenzie.
1544
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,420
So we want to finish with
"Teenagers Smoking Pot."
1545
01:20:13,860 --> 01:20:16,060
I thought everything
was normal growing up,
1546
01:20:16,060 --> 01:20:19,160
but looking back, a lot of
things probably weren't.
1547
01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:20,640
Okay, here we go.
1548
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,740
One, two, three, four,
five, hello, six, seven,
1549
01:20:25,820 --> 01:20:27,660
eight, nine, ten.
1550
01:20:28,620 --> 01:20:31,420
Okay, is the audio
and everything good?
1551
01:20:32,940 --> 01:20:34,560
Okay, thanks, I'm out of here.
1552
01:20:35,220 --> 01:20:37,080
We rigged the house
with hidden cameras
1553
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,080
that live-streamed
to our hotel room
1554
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,240
that we were sitting
in watching,
1555
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,560
waiting for it to be raided.
1556
01:20:42,740 --> 01:20:44,880
We are now waiting...
1557
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,540
...for that door to be
kicked in by the police.
1558
01:20:57,750 --> 01:21:00,270
That's what we're doing at--
2:00 in the morning?
1559
01:21:00,610 --> 01:21:01,970
Yes, at 2:00 in the morning.
1560
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,210
2:00 in the morning.
1561
01:21:04,270 --> 01:21:05,270
Two.
1562
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:08,750
And nothing happens.
1563
01:21:12,020 --> 01:21:14,780
You start spending
another man's money,
1564
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,360
you know, your 20, 30,
$40,000, into this deal,
1565
01:21:20,060 --> 01:21:23,860
and if it doesn't work,
Yolanda stays in prison
1566
01:21:23,860 --> 01:21:25,620
for another four years,
1567
01:21:26,620 --> 01:21:29,000
Mr. Madden loses all his money,
1568
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:31,340
and I'm a failure.
1569
01:21:31,780 --> 01:21:33,300
Without getting raided? Yeah.
1570
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,220
Just because of these cops, 'cause I want them--
1571
01:21:35,340 --> 01:21:37,040
I figured they'd try to
plant something on me.
1572
01:21:39,820 --> 01:21:40,820
Okay.
1573
01:21:41,340 --> 01:21:43,620
We might do something
to trigger the raid
1574
01:21:43,620 --> 01:21:44,620
like you're talking about.
1575
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:49,280
I think we drop you
off two streets over,
1576
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,420
and you just walk
down the street
1577
01:21:51,420 --> 01:21:53,860
and walk right up
to the front door and go in.
1578
01:21:53,860 --> 01:21:54,820
I'll do that. That's fine.
1579
01:21:54,820 --> 01:21:57,400
Here's what I want to make
sure before we release you
1580
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:58,320
to do this.
1581
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,310
Don't do something that
we didn't know about.
1582
01:22:00,310 --> 01:22:02,680
You got to do it exactly
like we discussed,
1583
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,020
because we're making decisions
out here based on that.
1584
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,220
Well, okay, you know
what else we need?
1585
01:22:07,340 --> 01:22:08,760
In other words,
you're kind of a firecracker.
1586
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,840
Hey, what's going on?
What are we up to?
1587
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,120
No good!
1588
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:15,780
Adam, if they stop you
walking to ID you,
1589
01:22:15,780 --> 01:22:16,680
what you gonna do?
1590
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,540
I'm gonna be the person who goes in the house.
1591
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,520
My job is to get the police
to breach a door.
1592
01:22:27,580 --> 01:22:28,580
All right.
1593
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,800
Adam's fixing to
come in the house.
1594
01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:33,240
There he is. Is he going in?
1595
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:34,420
He's in.
1596
01:22:36,290 --> 01:22:37,910
Candi is on edge.
1597
01:22:38,010 --> 01:22:39,010
Oh, man.
1598
01:22:40,450 --> 01:22:42,010
Well, my lawyer has ADHD.
1599
01:22:43,330 --> 01:22:44,710
He's a wild one.
1600
01:22:45,670 --> 01:22:46,670
He calls.
1601
01:22:46,770 --> 01:22:48,570
He goes, "Man, I don't think
they're gonna raid us."
1602
01:22:48,710 --> 01:22:49,930
We're talking on the phone,
1603
01:22:49,970 --> 01:22:53,190
and he's telling me to hang
tight, and I'm feeling like,
1604
01:22:53,250 --> 01:22:54,410
"No, man, I need to see
1605
01:22:54,410 --> 01:22:56,630
if there's, you know, any way
to turn this thing up."
1606
01:22:57,010 --> 01:22:59,730
So I walk outside,
1607
01:23:00,630 --> 01:23:04,270
and then I see a, you know,
task force guy
1608
01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:06,110
drive up in the truck,
and he's looking at me,
1609
01:23:06,170 --> 01:23:08,370
and I'm looking at him,
and I know it's on.
1610
01:23:09,090 --> 01:23:10,090
Who is that?
1611
01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:11,990
There is a cop
inside the car.
1612
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:14,550
We've got cops out there.
1613
01:23:14,570 --> 01:23:15,570
Everywhere.
1614
01:23:15,690 --> 01:23:18,000
There's more pulling up, too.
1615
01:23:18,170 --> 01:23:19,170
Hang on.
1616
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,060
There it is.
There he is. There he is.
1617
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:26,440
Back door.
1618
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:27,670
They're raiding it.
1619
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,480
Let's go. Let's go.
1620
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,300
We've got to get there
before the cops figure out
1621
01:23:35,300 --> 01:23:39,900
what's going on, and haul ass.
We've got one shot.
1622
01:23:51,810 --> 01:23:52,810
Oh, should I do that?
1623
01:23:52,890 --> 01:23:54,070
No, no, no. We need to go.
1624
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:57,790
All right, let's roll.
1625
01:24:04,850 --> 01:24:05,970
Oh, my God,
camera's rolling?
1626
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:07,310
I'm rolling.
1627
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:08,870
So you did call
the TV guys, right?
1628
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:09,870
Yes, they're on
their way now.
1629
01:24:13,770 --> 01:24:15,990
Get out and say, "Do you
have a search warrant?"
1630
01:24:16,570 --> 01:24:19,030
And if they don't, I'm
gonna say, "What were you doing in my house?"
1631
01:24:19,130 --> 01:24:20,130
That'll be the argument.
1632
01:24:21,110 --> 01:24:22,810
And then we need to
find Adam Raposa.
1633
01:24:23,730 --> 01:24:25,910
I'm in the back
of a cop car, handcuffed,
1634
01:24:26,250 --> 01:24:27,350
and they started telling me,
1635
01:24:27,630 --> 01:24:29,150
"Hey, we know what's in that
house," and I was like,
1636
01:24:29,190 --> 01:24:31,150
"The fuck you do, you stupid
motherfucker."
1637
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,130
We've been set up.
1638
01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:41,340
They're just about to leave.
1639
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,990
Go, go, go, go, go, go!
1640
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:46,500
I'm just honking to
leave them there.
1641
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,080
All right, we're about
to come through.
1642
01:24:48,700 --> 01:24:50,740
I want you to stop right here.
1643
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:53,920
Stop right here.
Stop right here. Right here.
1644
01:24:58,820 --> 01:25:01,320
Hey, I'm Barry Cooper
with KopBusters.
1645
01:25:01,480 --> 01:25:02,980
Why are you in my house?
1646
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:08,040
Y'all planted drugs on Yolanda,
and we're gonna get her released
1647
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,280
and get the crooked cops busted.
1648
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,880
If you're a good cop,
great, but you're not.
1649
01:25:12,940 --> 01:25:15,080
You raided my house,
and nothing's going on.
1650
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:17,740
Hey, sir, apparently
you're the one in. Come here.
1651
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,480
Hey, I want to see
the search warrant.
1652
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,080
Oh, I thought he
was fucking crazy.
1653
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,760
You know, I thought he
was gonna get shot down.
1654
01:25:24,060 --> 01:25:25,640
We're not giving
nobody no hassle.
1655
01:25:25,780 --> 01:25:26,780
You did, too.
1656
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,360
Y'all planted
drugs on Yolanda,
1657
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,220
and she's in prison
because of it.
1658
01:25:30,540 --> 01:25:32,640
That's giving people a hassle.
Sir.
1659
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,280
I'll wait for
the media to get here.
1660
01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:36,040
That's crazy shit right there.
1661
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,020
American police
will shoot you for that.
1662
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:39,420
Where's Joe Commander?
1663
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:41,530
Planting drugs on people.
1664
01:25:41,530 --> 01:25:42,060
Can't walk
in the roadway.
1665
01:25:42,060 --> 01:25:42,920
Can't walk
in the street.
1666
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,480
What are you gonna do, put me in jail for walking in a road?
1667
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,840
When you guys illegally
entered my house?
1668
01:25:49,540 --> 01:25:51,880
Put me in jail for
walking down a sidewalk.
1669
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,610
You've been warned.
1670
01:25:53,740 --> 01:25:54,760
You've been warned.
1671
01:25:55,060 --> 01:25:58,000
When they realized
that they've been had,
1672
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,840
they were trying to find
a reason to arrest us.
1673
01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:03,360
You guys are wrong on this one, and you know it.
1674
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:04,440
You got burnt.
1675
01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:06,020
The cops were shook.
1676
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:07,880
Well, what are
you gonna do?
1677
01:26:08,340 --> 01:26:09,500
You gonna put us in jail?
1678
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:10,640
Who are you gonna be mad at?
1679
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,280
How about
my attorney right there?
1680
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,300
Is he under arrest?
1681
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:14,980
He's been detained right now.
1682
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:16,580
Is he under--
is he free to leave?
1683
01:26:17,060 --> 01:26:19,200
Is he free to leave?
1684
01:26:19,250 --> 01:26:20,510
Is he free to leave?
Yeah.
1685
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:21,980
- Are we all free to leave?
- Yeah.
1686
01:26:22,300 --> 01:26:23,880
I am no longer in handcuffs.
1687
01:26:23,980 --> 01:26:25,400
I am the fuck out of here.
1688
01:26:25,580 --> 01:26:27,580
Oh, Renee, let's go!
Renee, let's go!
1689
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,240
Barry, I'll send you a bill!
1690
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,340
Fuck this fucking
batshit bullshit.
1691
01:26:31,460 --> 01:26:32,460
I am done.
1692
01:26:33,220 --> 01:26:34,720
We'll see y'all in court!
1693
01:26:35,660 --> 01:26:37,360
And you'll be on TV! Ha!
1694
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:42,610
It worked.
1695
01:26:43,610 --> 01:26:46,150
But the job is only half done.
1696
01:26:46,630 --> 01:26:49,310
We gotta get Yolanda's
story on the news.
1697
01:26:50,500 --> 01:26:52,540
Hey, yeah, Barry.
Did Jose send you here?
1698
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:53,760
He did, he did.
1699
01:26:53,870 --> 01:26:55,610
Once all the cops had left,
1700
01:26:56,050 --> 01:26:58,030
we got the Channel 7
news team in.
1701
01:26:58,310 --> 01:27:00,250
Tell me what
happened at his house.
1702
01:27:00,510 --> 01:27:04,910
We set a trap to bust
crooked cops in Odessa.
1703
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,060
It fucking worked!
1704
01:27:08,270 --> 01:27:09,310
Oh, man!
1705
01:27:09,710 --> 01:27:11,390
That was awesome, dude.
1706
01:27:12,430 --> 01:27:13,690
Hey! Oh, man.
1707
01:27:17,450 --> 01:27:19,750
And the most
fucked up thing is
1708
01:27:19,890 --> 01:27:21,370
the part that really mattered.
1709
01:27:21,950 --> 01:27:23,830
Get their attention,
get them to do something
1710
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:29,450
in clear violation of the law,
and then get a media focus.
1711
01:27:30,570 --> 01:27:32,670
Everything fucking worked.
1712
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:36,170
Our top story tonight, Odessa police are tricked
1713
01:27:36,170 --> 01:27:38,290
into raiding a fake drug den.
1714
01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:40,540
But why all the trouble?
1715
01:27:40,670 --> 01:27:43,370
Get Yolanda Madden
out of prison.
1716
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:44,850
Ex-drug officer, Barry--
1717
01:27:45,150 --> 01:27:46,290
We were watching the news.
1718
01:27:46,830 --> 01:27:49,010
The girls that I'm locked up
with were looking at the TV
1719
01:27:49,010 --> 01:27:51,130
and looking back at me
and like, "Oh, my gosh."
1720
01:27:51,890 --> 01:27:57,550
I bought the domain
KopBusters.com with a "K,"
1721
01:27:57,750 --> 01:28:01,470
and I posted all the evidence
1722
01:28:02,130 --> 01:28:05,090
so everybody could see that
these drugs had been planted
1723
01:28:05,090 --> 01:28:06,330
on Yolanda Madden.
1724
01:28:07,190 --> 01:28:09,390
And then I approached magazines.
1725
01:28:09,930 --> 01:28:12,490
Barry offered me an online exclusive.
1726
01:28:13,250 --> 01:28:18,570
We got millions of
readers just lit up.
1727
01:28:19,050 --> 01:28:21,810
And I linked to his
website from the story.
1728
01:28:22,210 --> 01:28:24,370
People were clicking through
like, "What the hell?"
1729
01:28:24,550 --> 01:28:25,710
And it went crazy.
1730
01:28:26,410 --> 01:28:27,410
It broke his website.
1731
01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:32,430
At the same time, I released
these videos on YouTube
1732
01:28:32,430 --> 01:28:34,650
to show the public
what the police did.
1733
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,360
YouTube was pretty new.
1734
01:28:40,940 --> 01:28:43,390
I mean, it was when viral was,
like, starting to be a word.
1735
01:28:46,220 --> 01:28:49,280
Every year, thousands of men and women are sent to prison,
1736
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,440
many because of corrupt cops.
1737
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,920
Like, everyone had already
encountered everything but this.
1738
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,200
Hey, I'm Barry Cooper with KopBusters.
1739
01:28:57,340 --> 01:28:58,820
Why are you in my house?
1740
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,080
"I'm Barry Cooper
with KopBusters.
1741
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,340
Why are you in my house?"
1742
01:29:02,380 --> 01:29:03,500
"Hey, I'm Barry Cooper.
1743
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,160
What the hell are y'all
doing in my house?"
1744
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:06,500
"My name's Barry Cooper.
1745
01:29:06,580 --> 01:29:08,000
What are you doing in my house?"
1746
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:13,960
I got chills watching him
do this explosive thing.
1747
01:29:14,140 --> 01:29:16,000
I would say I couldn't believe
it, but I could believe it.
1748
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,880
He told me exactly
what he was gonna do,
1749
01:29:17,940 --> 01:29:18,940
and then he went and did it.
1750
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,080
I gotta say,
in the High Times office,
1751
01:29:23,340 --> 01:29:24,480
we fucking cheered.
1752
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,440
We stood up watching
this footage.
1753
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,900
People screaming, "Fuck yeah!
1754
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,240
Fuck you!
1755
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:33,640
Fuckin' ain't right!"
1756
01:29:34,530 --> 01:29:35,540
You did too!
1757
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,620
Y'all planted drugs on
Yolanda and she's--
1758
01:29:37,700 --> 01:29:42,340
Simply to see it done to the police by an ex-cop
1759
01:29:42,340 --> 01:29:44,260
felt like you were
seeing something
1760
01:29:44,260 --> 01:29:46,460
you never were gonna
see in your whole life.
1761
01:29:47,260 --> 01:29:49,880
Nobody had ever
busted the cops before
1762
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,820
and shared it to so many
people all over the world.
1763
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:56,760
There was millions and
millions and millions
1764
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,260
of hits overnight.
1765
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,440
It was just everywhere.
1766
01:30:00,780 --> 01:30:04,480
The term "KopBuster"
was the number one word
1767
01:30:05,020 --> 01:30:07,860
searched on Google
for two weeks.
1768
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:09,160
Free Yolanda!
1769
01:30:11,860 --> 01:30:14,860
Now, even the most
cynical journalists
1770
01:30:14,860 --> 01:30:17,960
are going to have to
ask, "Who's Yolanda?"
1771
01:30:18,500 --> 01:30:20,740
I can prove absolutely
without a doubt she's innocent.
1772
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,660
Her father says he's been trying to get a court
1773
01:30:23,660 --> 01:30:25,940
to retry the case
since the conviction.
1774
01:30:26,420 --> 01:30:28,940
A lot of the media
now had a reason
1775
01:30:28,940 --> 01:30:31,020
to look at that specific case.
1776
01:30:31,140 --> 01:30:32,780
Her family says
the drugs were planted
1777
01:30:32,780 --> 01:30:34,240
and they've got
evidence to prove it.
1778
01:30:34,580 --> 01:30:36,960
Today, they got their chance to
present some of that evidence
1779
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,340
in an evidentiary hearing in
federal court in Midland.
1780
01:30:39,340 --> 01:30:42,580
And when that occurred,
something almost...
1781
01:30:44,580 --> 01:30:45,860
...unbelievable happened.
1782
01:30:47,980 --> 01:30:50,200
Former Odessa police
officer Barry Cooper
1783
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,540
set up a fake drug house
1784
01:30:51,540 --> 01:30:52,920
to sting the Odessa
Police Department
1785
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,960
on his reality
show "KopBusters."
1786
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,560
Today, the family that
hired Cooper and his crew
1787
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,400
to set up a sting are
getting what they want.
1788
01:31:03,170 --> 01:31:04,990
Yolanda Madden
is a free woman.
1789
01:31:05,570 --> 01:31:08,550
Federal judge Rob Janelle
vacated her sentence.
1790
01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:27,370
Getting to hold him and
not let go of him this time
1791
01:31:28,110 --> 01:31:30,370
was, uh, priceless.
1792
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:44,860
Oh, you look beautiful.
1793
01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:51,950
And then it was just all over.
1794
01:31:54,620 --> 01:31:58,700
That's the first time I got
to hold her in four years.
1795
01:32:09,220 --> 01:32:11,180
I'm in awe, you know?
1796
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,200
I'm just glad to be home.
1797
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,040
You know, a thank you
doesn't seem like enough.
1798
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,360
I'm excited that we had a hand
1799
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:26,940
in getting Yolanda
to this point,
1800
01:32:27,140 --> 01:32:29,740
but I'm bitter of the pain
1801
01:32:29,740 --> 01:32:33,680
that this has caused Yolanda
and her kids and her family,
1802
01:32:33,860 --> 01:32:35,220
so it's bittersweet to me.
1803
01:32:35,370 --> 01:32:39,640
Hey! Come over here, Yolanda!
1804
01:32:39,750 --> 01:32:41,810
Wow! Hey Raymond.
1805
01:32:41,930 --> 01:32:43,640
Good to see you, brother.
1806
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,460
I'm so glad y'all took
the time to make it by.
1807
01:32:46,820 --> 01:32:48,020
Come here, girl.
1808
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,460
Barry's 100% the reason I got out early.
1809
01:32:54,300 --> 01:32:55,940
KopBusters and this
thing that he did
1810
01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:58,260
and the publicity that it drew
1811
01:32:58,260 --> 01:32:59,760
put pressure on
the courts, obviously.
1812
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:02,260
You know, people started
asking questions and stuff
1813
01:33:02,260 --> 01:33:05,440
and making phone calls,
and so they have to stand up
1814
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:06,440
and do the right
thing eventually.
1815
01:33:06,900 --> 01:33:09,040
I mean, I was really fucking
proud of my dad for that.
1816
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,900
I still am proud of
my dad for that.
1817
01:33:11,060 --> 01:33:14,240
That doesn't
happen very often,
1818
01:33:14,260 --> 01:33:17,300
and I can say I can't
imagine a scenario today
1819
01:33:17,660 --> 01:33:20,100
where it would happen
again with me in my life.
1820
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,300
I may have been getting
out and getting ready
1821
01:33:22,300 --> 01:33:25,000
to settle into my life,
but there were no officers
1822
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,120
ever held accountable for
what happened in my case.
1823
01:33:29,020 --> 01:33:32,080
I never caught anybody
doing any wrongdoing
1824
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,760
in that drug task force.
1825
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,600
If I had of,
they'd have been reported.
1826
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,680
KopBusters wasn't just going
after the police for corruption.
1827
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:49,020
It was going against
the very drug task forces
1828
01:33:49,020 --> 01:33:53,040
and even some of the fellow
officers that Barry worked with.
1829
01:33:53,540 --> 01:33:57,540
You are poking the bear,
and not just any bear,
1830
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,460
but a bear that you know
and that knows you,
1831
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,360
and as personally
as Barry took things,
1832
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,260
the reaction
was just as personal.
1833
01:34:08,060 --> 01:34:10,800
Keep the camera on.
1834
01:34:10,850 --> 01:34:11,860
Okay.
1835
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:18,160
The police absolutely
considered me a traitor.
1836
01:34:18,440 --> 01:34:20,060
I got death threats.
1837
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,260
They hated me.
1838
01:34:23,700 --> 01:34:24,700
Fuck.
1839
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,220
Okay, I don't open
the door for the cops.
1840
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:30,240
Here you go.
1841
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,460
But you can talk to me through the window.
1842
01:34:33,620 --> 01:34:36,440
We had a strict rule.
1843
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:41,460
Never, ever, ever open
your door for the police.
1844
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:46,000
You're under no obligation to
open the door for the cops.
1845
01:34:46,340 --> 01:34:51,180
If the police had a legal
right to be in your home,
1846
01:34:51,580 --> 01:34:54,800
they would kick the door in
and raid your house
1847
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,160
with a search warrant.
1848
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:00,200
If you do not open the door,
you will not go to jail.
1849
01:35:00,980 --> 01:35:03,560
Go get a warrant
and get me later.
1850
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,480
But otherwise,
get the fuck out of here.
1851
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,620
I don't like cops.
1852
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,160
Don't like you. Go.
1853
01:35:13,420 --> 01:35:15,880
Do you really know who
you're talking to?
1854
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:18,840
Oh, hey, kick the door
in, motherfucker.
1855
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,720
Hey, kick the door in.
1856
01:35:22,340 --> 01:35:24,840
Fuck you. Don't come
to my door like that, boy.
1857
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,680
Yeah, go on, punk.
1858
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,260
The last arrest...
1859
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,520
...they fucking hit me so hard.
1860
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,740
I'm in the car with Kenzie.
1861
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,240
I hear cops zooming up.
1862
01:35:41,340 --> 01:35:42,780
I'm like, "Oh, shit."
1863
01:35:45,020 --> 01:35:47,640
Pulled us over
two miles from my house.
1864
01:35:47,980 --> 01:35:53,260
They jumped out in fucking
body armour and guns like this.
1865
01:35:56,770 --> 01:36:00,690
And this is what bothered me,
is their hands were shaking.
1866
01:36:00,990 --> 01:36:06,850
And I knew when cops were
in the mood to shoot,
1867
01:36:07,010 --> 01:36:09,990
they wanted to be the one
to shoot Barry Cooper.
1868
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:13,230
So I just ducked
my head like this,
1869
01:36:14,690 --> 01:36:18,150
peering up, seeing
their hands shaking,
1870
01:36:18,370 --> 01:36:22,290
surrounded, more cars swooping
in, helicopter overhead.
1871
01:36:24,210 --> 01:36:25,610
And I said, "It's okay, guys.
1872
01:36:25,670 --> 01:36:27,050
It's okay. It's okay.
1873
01:36:27,210 --> 01:36:28,540
Just handcuff me.
1874
01:36:28,670 --> 01:36:30,010
I won't hurt you.
I won't hurt you."
1875
01:36:31,900 --> 01:36:33,480
I'm not going to harm you guys.
1876
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,120
Grabbing me like that.
1877
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:36,620
You have the right
to remain silent,
1878
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:38,000
not make any statement at all.
1879
01:36:38,180 --> 01:36:39,180
Any statement that you make
1880
01:36:39,310 --> 01:36:41,640
may be used to execute
your trial. You understand that?
1881
01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:42,820
I don't understand
what I'm under arrest for.
1882
01:36:47,020 --> 01:36:49,180
It's okay, Kenzie. Don't worry.
1883
01:36:50,020 --> 01:36:53,520
Me and my dad just stared at
each other the whole time.
1884
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,560
I didn't know what the
fuck was going on.
1885
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,370
We're going to go back
and we're going to execute
1886
01:36:57,500 --> 01:36:58,620
a search warrant at your house.
1887
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,100
You're either going to cooperate
with us, you're going to
1888
01:37:00,250 --> 01:37:02,700
tell us who's in the house
so we don't have issues,
1889
01:37:02,850 --> 01:37:05,560
or you're not.
That's the way it's going to go.
1890
01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:07,590
Are you saying that you guys are going to go kick my door in?
1891
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,310
We're going to do what we have to do.
1892
01:37:09,370 --> 01:37:14,210
They started driving to my
house and my dad was following
1893
01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:15,750
behind in the cop car.
1894
01:37:16,570 --> 01:37:21,170
I had my phone on me and I was
texting Candi, "Lock the door."
1895
01:37:23,870 --> 01:37:26,470
Burn me on it and I'm going to fuck you over real hard
1896
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:27,750
if you scare my family.
1897
01:37:27,950 --> 01:37:29,890
Yes, I will. I'll get you
in court. I'll get you in court.
1898
01:37:30,150 --> 01:37:31,890
That's the why we're doing
it like this.
1899
01:37:32,030 --> 01:37:34,770
If you terrorize my family, I'll get your ass in court.
1900
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:35,790
Here's the way
it is, Barry.
1901
01:37:36,030 --> 01:37:37,610
I'll give you the same
respect you give me.
1902
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:40,230
I don't respect you
motherfuckers for doing this.
1903
01:37:40,290 --> 01:37:41,650
What you're doing is fucked up.
1904
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:45,090
I burnt that cop's ass,
got his ass. This has nothing--
1905
01:37:45,190 --> 01:37:46,590
This has to do--
1906
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,160
We pull up to my house
and I'm in the driveway
1907
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,180
and I see all these cops get out
and they have all their guns
1908
01:37:54,900 --> 01:37:56,920
and they're walking
up to my door
1909
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,100
and every time I looked
at my dad, I just cried.
1910
01:38:01,540 --> 01:38:02,880
Is your wife going
to open the door?
1911
01:38:05,170 --> 01:38:08,930
If she sees cops,
she won't unless I tell her to.
1912
01:38:09,770 --> 01:38:12,810
But it's our rule, we don't
open the door to fucking cops.
1913
01:38:14,770 --> 01:38:18,510
The wife and the small boy got off the bus earlier.
1914
01:38:18,570 --> 01:38:20,520
Let's hustle on that fella.
1915
01:38:23,620 --> 01:38:25,940
They had a warrant to search the house
1916
01:38:26,020 --> 01:38:28,040
so I couldn't stop
them from going in.
1917
01:38:30,570 --> 01:38:31,910
Oh, will you
help me?
1918
01:38:32,130 --> 01:38:33,130
Can you help me?
1919
01:38:33,370 --> 01:38:35,190
You don't need to be
helped any longer.
1920
01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:37,810
Candi and Zach
were at home watching TV.
1921
01:38:39,630 --> 01:38:42,410
I told Candi to open the door
so they didn't kick it in.
1922
01:38:43,530 --> 01:38:46,470
If I ever go looking for
my heart's desire again,
1923
01:38:46,540 --> 01:38:49,020
I won't look any further
than my own backyard.
1924
01:38:50,570 --> 01:38:53,650
I mean, it was terrifying,
especially because we didn't
1925
01:38:53,650 --> 01:38:54,770
know what was going on.
1926
01:38:55,170 --> 01:38:56,990
The cops didn't communicate
anything with us.
1927
01:38:57,990 --> 01:39:02,330
And think to yourself,
there's no place like home.
1928
01:39:07,370 --> 01:39:10,030
They make me and Candi
and Zach sit on the couch.
1929
01:39:10,030 --> 01:39:14,150
Then they start just
searching the whole house.
1930
01:39:14,260 --> 01:39:17,220
There's no place like home.
1931
01:39:20,700 --> 01:39:22,790
There's no place like home.
1932
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:25,550
I remember looking over
and seeing my wife and Zach
1933
01:39:25,550 --> 01:39:26,550
sitting on the couch.
1934
01:39:26,710 --> 01:39:27,870
I said, I'm gonna cooperate
1935
01:39:27,870 --> 01:39:29,430
and tell you where
everything is.
1936
01:39:31,190 --> 01:39:33,290
They were after
my KopBuster tapes,
1937
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:35,930
and I just didn't want
them to hurt my family.
1938
01:39:48,290 --> 01:39:49,460
Say hi.
1939
01:39:51,330 --> 01:39:52,490
Raiding my family...
1940
01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:00,640
Hi, Daddy.
1941
01:40:05,870 --> 01:40:07,250
...fucked me up.
1942
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,340
Fucked me up.
1943
01:40:26,420 --> 01:40:29,360
And I remember sitting
in solitary confinement.
1944
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,660
I thought, man,
they want to shoot me.
1945
01:40:36,820 --> 01:40:39,100
I started looking at the math,
1946
01:40:40,420 --> 01:40:44,320
and I noticed in
the United States,
1947
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,100
any activist that was effective,
1948
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,560
their retirement program
was death or prison.
1949
01:40:55,020 --> 01:40:56,900
I made up my mind right then.
1950
01:40:57,010 --> 01:41:00,980
I'm leaving the United States.
1951
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:04,340
I hatched a plan
and snuck out of the country
1952
01:41:04,340 --> 01:41:05,480
into Southeast Asia.
1953
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,460
They couldn't come get me there.
1954
01:41:21,010 --> 01:41:24,870
Life is hard, and we all have
to go through struggles.
1955
01:41:27,130 --> 01:41:29,090
It's how you deal
with the struggle.
1956
01:41:29,710 --> 01:41:32,370
It's how you deal with
the trauma that defines you.
1957
01:41:35,180 --> 01:41:39,080
After I fled the United States,
well, I lost everything.
1958
01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:42,120
I lost my country.
1959
01:41:43,480 --> 01:41:45,060
I lost all my possessions.
1960
01:41:45,580 --> 01:41:47,220
Had to sell everything
when I fled.
1961
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,340
Lost my friends, family.
1962
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:57,660
Spent nearly
a decade on the run.
1963
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:05,210
And for a long time,
1964
01:42:05,210 --> 01:42:07,370
I didn't know how this
was going to pan out.
1965
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:13,930
I live in a jungle now,
and I train rescue dogs.
1966
01:42:14,910 --> 01:42:18,370
I'm really thankful
to have what I have now.
1967
01:42:18,690 --> 01:42:19,930
I got a do-over.
1968
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:23,590
And I'm not going to
squander it, man.
1969
01:42:24,150 --> 01:42:26,110
Good boy.
1970
01:42:26,470 --> 01:42:28,150
Tim R. Hey, Tim R.
1971
01:42:28,150 --> 01:42:28,950
Good to see you again.
1972
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:30,830
You said, "Barry needs
to be attorney general."
1973
01:42:31,190 --> 01:42:33,690
No, I'm a horrible politician.
1974
01:42:34,110 --> 01:42:36,910
You know, I ran for
Texas attorney general.
1975
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:39,810
I also started
Never Get Busted Live.
1976
01:42:40,630 --> 01:42:45,170
I'm using more wisdom and more
tact to get my point across.
1977
01:42:45,450 --> 01:42:46,910
I feel like I'm preaching again.
1978
01:42:47,610 --> 01:42:51,770
Barry's lost a lot
in this fight.
1979
01:42:52,870 --> 01:42:53,870
A lot in this fight.
1980
01:42:54,330 --> 01:42:56,490
From start to right now.
1981
01:42:57,740 --> 01:42:59,230
And him being in exile,
1982
01:43:00,270 --> 01:43:03,520
that's a whole
different toll on him.
1983
01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:12,220
♪ Our house ♪
1984
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,070
♪ It's a very, very, very
fine house ♪
1985
01:43:15,180 --> 01:43:18,880
I don't think that my dad will ever have true inner peace.
1986
01:43:19,460 --> 01:43:21,960
He's lost a whole lot, he's not
going to get any of it back.
1987
01:43:22,980 --> 01:43:24,860
When he went and picked
a fight with the cops
1988
01:43:24,860 --> 01:43:26,160
and went on the run,
1989
01:43:27,260 --> 01:43:28,960
he didn't think about
the consequences.
1990
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,740
Injustice is everywhere, and many of us want
1991
01:43:33,740 --> 01:43:34,960
to do something about it.
1992
01:43:35,900 --> 01:43:39,620
But Barry played that game
at a much bigger level
1993
01:43:39,620 --> 01:43:41,280
and at a much bigger scale.
1994
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:46,080
So click that order button
now to nevergetbusted.com,
1995
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:47,740
and I'll even pay your postage.
1996
01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:54,060
And it had the kind
of collateral damage
1997
01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:57,440
that not even in my
wildest dreams did I think
1998
01:43:57,440 --> 01:43:59,580
that the Texas Rangers
would raid his home
1999
01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:01,100
and he'd have to
flee the country.
2000
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:03,280
Very nice to meet you, Paul.
2001
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:04,640
I'm Barry.
2002
01:44:05,140 --> 01:44:06,140
Hey man, I'm Barry.
2003
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:08,720
I just hope I'm doing okay.
2004
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,100
But these are your people,
you're Filipino,
2005
01:44:11,260 --> 01:44:12,540
I'm a white guy, it's hard.
2006
01:44:12,900 --> 01:44:16,180
The thing about Barry,
he is that embodiment
2007
01:44:16,180 --> 01:44:20,040
of that warrior spirit,
that William Wallace, Spartacus,
2008
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:21,960
like, no, I'm standing
up for what I believe
2009
01:44:22,020 --> 01:44:23,020
and I'm going to fight.
2010
01:44:23,460 --> 01:44:26,020
He fought the fucking
system in a way
2011
01:44:26,020 --> 01:44:28,960
that made millions of
people cheer for him.
2012
01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:30,220
Hey Rangers!
2013
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,900
Why are y'all being
pricks like that?
2014
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:35,260
You don't want me
busting crooked cops?
2015
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:42,700
Do you see what happens if
you're tied up in this game
2016
01:44:42,700 --> 01:44:46,780
and then you try to turn
around and hate the game?
2017
01:44:47,660 --> 01:44:48,740
No, they're going
to hate the player.
2018
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:50,640
They're going to
come at your ass
2019
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:51,800
and they're going
to fuck you up.
2020
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:54,860
How dare you come into
my home on a misdemeanour
2021
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:56,660
pointing guns at my family.
2022
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,900
Do you really know who
you're talking to?
2023
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:01,140
Hey, kick the door
in, motherfucker!
2024
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:03,800
Hey, kick the door in!
2025
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:10,360
This isn't the story of one cop who did bad stuff and then quit.
2026
01:45:10,740 --> 01:45:14,880
This is a story about
a system that's unjust.
2027
01:45:15,420 --> 01:45:17,220
Watch our TV show, KopBusters.
2028
01:45:17,540 --> 01:45:20,640
Whether you like Barry Cooper or
not, you got to agree with me
2029
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,780
that he has brought
the issue to the fore.
2030
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:28,510
Pot smokers do not belong
in jail!
2031
01:45:28,620 --> 01:45:31,040
Recreational marijuana is
now legal in California.
2032
01:45:31,980 --> 01:45:33,320
Alaska is now the third state--
2033
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,560
Minnesota now the 23rd
state to legalize.
2034
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:41,200
But in Texas, recreational use
of marijuana is still illegal.
2035
01:45:41,660 --> 01:45:42,680
In the patrol car.
2036
01:45:43,180 --> 01:45:44,320
Barry's a guardian angel.
2037
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:46,500
He had enough experience
with officers,
2038
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,340
he knew what made them tick.
2039
01:45:48,540 --> 01:45:50,080
This is called cop watching.
2040
01:45:50,340 --> 01:45:52,280
It's investigative journalism.
2041
01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:54,480
It's not illegal to record,
I'm a journalist.
2042
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,200
Is he free to leave?
2043
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:57,240
Am I free to leave?
2044
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:58,980
Are we all free to leave?
2045
01:45:59,460 --> 01:46:01,300
- Yes!
- Then we can roam around
2046
01:46:01,300 --> 01:46:02,300
wherever we want!
2047
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:06,100
A dirty, rotten,
mean motherfucker.
2048
01:46:06,190 --> 01:46:07,630
Oh, my God!
2049
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,160
That dude has such
a bug up his ass
2050
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,600
about how bad he
was to other people
2051
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,800
that he's just determined
to undo the harm,
2052
01:46:16,860 --> 01:46:18,440
even if it means
killing himself.
2053
01:46:18,980 --> 01:46:20,720
Y'all planted drugs on Yolanda,
2054
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,640
and she's in prison
because of it.
2055
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,160
I mean, for me, I would
have to tell you that
2056
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:26,200
I am his biggest fan.
2057
01:46:27,900 --> 01:46:29,300
This fucking worked!
2058
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,100
I will always appreciate
what Barry did for me.
2059
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:33,980
I mean, I may not
ever understand why.
2060
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,520
Oh, man!
That was awesome, dude.
2061
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:39,480
Thank you very much.
I'm Barry Cooper.
2062
01:46:39,620 --> 01:46:41,300
God bless all of
you for being here.
2063
01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:23,850
I don't fucking know what
2064
01:49:23,850 --> 01:49:25,650
that fucking bat shit
motherfucker is doing,
2065
01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:27,030
but I guarantee you,
whatever it is,
2066
01:49:27,630 --> 01:49:28,630
it's fucking nuts.
2067
01:49:29,050 --> 01:49:31,470
You know, and that was
kind of how I got--
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