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150 years ago
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the business corporation
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was a relatively
insignificant institution.
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Today it is all pervasive.
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Like the church
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the monarchy
and the communist party
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in other times and places
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the corporation is today's
dominant institution.
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This documentary
examines the nature
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evolution impacts and
possible futures
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of the modern
business corporation.
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Initially given a narrow
legal mandate
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what has allowed today's
corporation to achieve
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such extraordinary power
and influence over our lives?
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We begin our inquiry as
scandals threaten to trigger
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a wide debate about the lack
of public control
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over big corporations.
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I think there is an overhang
over the market of distrust.
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listen 95 percent
or some percent
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huge percentage
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of the business
community are honest
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and unreveal
all their assets
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got compensation
programs that are balanced.
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But there are
some bad apples...
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the media debate about
the basic operating principles
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of the corporate world
was quickly reduced
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to a game of
follow the leader.
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I still happen to think
the United States
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is the greatest place
in the world to invest.
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We have some shake ups
that are going on
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because of a few
bad apples.
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Some people call me
a bad apple
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but I may be bruised
but I still taste sweet.
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Some people call me
a bad apple
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but I may be the sweetest
apple on the tree.
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These are not just
a bunch of bad apples.
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This is just
a few bad apples.
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This is not just
a few bad apples.
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You've gotta get rid
of the bad apples
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You can start
with Tyco
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Bad apples
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We know all
about WorldCom.
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Bad apples
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Xerox Corporation.
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Bad apples
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Arthur Anderson.
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Bad apples
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Enron obviously
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bad apples.
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K-mart Corporation
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Bad apples
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the fruit cart is
getting a little more full.
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I don�t think it's just a
few apples unfortunately.
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I think this is the worst
crisis of confidence
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in business.
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What's wrong
with this picture?
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Can we not pick
a better metaphor
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to describe the dominant
institution of our time?
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Through the voices of CEOs
whistle blowers
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brokers gurus and spies
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insiders and outsiders
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we present the corporation
as a paradox
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an institution which
creates great wealth
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but causes enormous
and often hidden harms.
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I see the corporation
as part of a jigsaw
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in society as a whole
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which if you remove it
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the picture�s incomplete.
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But equally if it's
the only part
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it's not going to work.
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A sports team.
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Some of us are
blocking and tackling.
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Some of us
are running the ball
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some of us are
throwing the ball.
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But we all have
a common purpose
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which is to succeed
as an organization.
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A corporations
like a family unit.
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People in a corporation work
together for a common end
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Like the telephone system
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it reaches almost
everywhere.
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It's extraordinarily powerful
it's pretty hard to avoid.
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And it transforms
the lives of people
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I think on balance
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for the better.
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The eagle
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soaring clear eyed
competitive
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prepared to strike
but not a vulture.
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Noble visionary majestic
that people can believe in
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and be inspired by
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that creates such
a lift that it soars.
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I can see that being
a good logo
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for the principled
company.
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Okay guys
enough bullshit.
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Corporations are
artificial creations.
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You might say
they�re monsters
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trying to devour as much
profit as possible
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at anyone's expense.
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I think of a whale.
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A gentle big fish
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which could swallow you
in an instant.
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Dr. Frankenstein's creation
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has overwhelmed and
overpowered him.
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As the corporate form
has done with us.
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The word corporate gets
attached in almost
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you know in a
pejorative sense to
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and gets married
with the word agenda.
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And one hears a lot about
the corporate agenda
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as though it is evil
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as though it is an agenda
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which is trying
to take over the world.
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Personally l don't
use the word "corporation "
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I use the word business.
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I will use the word
use the word company.
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I will use the words
business community
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cause I think that is a much
fairer representation
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than zeroing in on just
this word corporation.
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It's funny that I've taught
in a business school
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for as long as I have
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without ever having
been asked so pointedly
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to say what I think
a corporation is.
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... it is one form of
business ownership...?
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It's a group of individuals
working together to serve
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a variety of objectives.
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The principal one
of which is earning large
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growing sustained
legal returns
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for the people who
own the business.
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The modern corporation has
grown out of the industrial age.
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The industrial age
began in 1712
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with an Englishman named
Thomas Newcomen
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invented a steam driven
pump to pump water
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out of the English coalmine
so the English coalminers
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could get more
coal to mine
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rather than hauling
buckets of water
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out of the mine
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It was all about productivity
more coal per man hour.
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That was the dawn of
the industrial age.
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And then it became more
steel per man hour
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more textiles
per man hour
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more automobiles
per man hour
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and today it's more
chips per man hour
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more gizmos per man hour.
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The system is basically
the same system
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producing more
sophisticated products today.
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The dominant role of
corporations in our lives
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is essentially a product of
roughly the past century.
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Corporations were originally
associations of people
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who were chartered
by a state
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to perform some
particular function.
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Like a group of people
want to build abridge
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over the Charles River
or something like that.
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There were very few
chartered corporations
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in early United
States history.
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And the ones that existed
had clear stipulations
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in their state
issued charters
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how long they
could operate
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the amount of
capitalization
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what they made or did
or maintained
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a turnpike whatever was
in their charter
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and they didn't
do anything else.
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They didn't own or couldn't
own another corporation.
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Their shareholders
were liable.
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And so on.
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In both law and the culture
the corporation was considered
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a subordinate entity that was
a gift from the people
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in order to serve
the public good.
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So you have that history
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and we shouldn't
be misled by it
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it's not as if these
were the halcyon days
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when all corporations
served the public trust
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but there's a lot
to learn from that.
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The Civil War and the
Industrial Revolution
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created enormous growth
in corporations.
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And so there was an explosion
of railroads
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who got large federal
subsidies of land.
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Banking heavily
manufacturing
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And corporate lawyers
a century and a half ago
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realized that they needed
more power to operate
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And wanted to remove some
of the constraints
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that had historically been
placed on the corporate form.
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The 14th amendment
was passed
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at the end of the Civil War
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to give equal rights
to black people.
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And therefore it said
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No state can deprive
any person of life
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liberty or property
without due process of law.
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And that was intended
to prevent the states
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from taking away life
liberty or property
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from black people
as they had done
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for so much of
our history.
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And what happens is the
corporations come into court
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and corporation lawyers
are very clever.
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And they say
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Oh you cant deprive
a person of life
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liberty or property.
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We are a person.
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A corporation is a person.
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And so supreme court
goes along with that.
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And what was particularly
grotesque about this was
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that the 14th amendment
was passed
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to protect newly
freed slaves.
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So for instance
between 1890 and 1910
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there were 307 cases brought
before the court
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under the 14th amendment.
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288 of these brought
by corporations
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19 by African Americans.
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600000 people were killed
to get rights for people
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and then with strokes of
the pen over the next 30years
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judges applied those rights
to capital and property
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while stripping them
from people.
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Everybody makes a mistake
once in a while
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but I just cant be
personally responsible.
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That's one of the weaknesses
of a partnership
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isn't it Sid?
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Well maybe you�d better
incorporate the store.
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Incorporate?!
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Yes
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Incorporating would give you
the big advantage of
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what you want right now
limited liability.
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You start with a
group of people
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who wanna invest their
money in accompany.
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Then these people apply for
a charter as a corporation.
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This government issues a
charter to that corporation.
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Now that corporation operates
legally as an individual person
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it is not a group of people
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it is under the law
a legal person.
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Imperial Steel Incorporated
has many of the legal rights
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of a person.
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It can buy and
sell property...
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It can borrow money.
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It can sue in court
and be sued.
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It can carry
on a business.
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Imperial Steel
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along with thousands
of other legal persons
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is a part of our
daily living.
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It is a member
of our society.
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Having acquired the legal rights
and protections of a person
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the question arises
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What kind of person
is the corporation?
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Corporations were given
the rights of immortal persons.
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But then special
kinds of persons
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persons who had no
moral conscience.
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These are a special
kind of persons
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which are designed by law
to be concerned
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only for their
stockholders.
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And not say what
are sometimes
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called their stakeholders
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like the community or the
work force or whatever.
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The great problems of having
corporate citizens
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is that they aren�t
like the rest of us.
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As Baron Thurlow in England
is supposed to have said
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They have no soul to save
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and they have no body
to incarcerate.
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I believe the mistake that
a lot of people make
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when they think
about corporations
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is they think you know
corporations are like us.
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General Electric is a kind
old man with lots of stories.
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Nike young energetic.
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Microsoft aggressive
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McDonald's young
outgoing enthusiastic
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Monsanto immaculately dressed
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Disney goofy.
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The Body Shop
um deceptive
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very lovely.
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Do you know what the
body shop is?
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Nope.
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They have feelings
they have politics
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they have belief systems
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they really only
have one thing
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the bottom line
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How to make as much
money as they can
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in any given quarter.
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That's it.
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Of course they
make a profit
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and it's a good thing.
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That's the incentive that
makes capitalism work.
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To give us more
of the things that wanted.
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That�s the incentive that
other economic systems lack.
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People accuse
us of only paying attention
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to the economic leg
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because they think
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that�s what a business
persons mind set is
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it's just money.
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And it's not so
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because we as
business people
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know that wanted to certainly
address the environment
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but also wanted to be seen as
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constructive members
of society.
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There are companies that do
good for the communities.
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They produce
services and goods
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that are of value to all of us
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that make our
lives better
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and that's a good thing.
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The problem comes in in
the profit motivation here
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because these people
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there�s no such
thing as enough.
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And I always
counterpoint out
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there�s no organization
on this planet
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that can neglect
its economic foundation.
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Even someone living under
a banyan tree is dependent
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on support from someone.
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Economic leg has to be
addressed by everyone.
302
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It's not just
a business issue.
303
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But unlike someone
under a banyan tree
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all publicly
traded corporations
305
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has been structured
306
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through a series
of legal decisions
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to have a peculiar and
disturbing characteristic.
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They are required
by law
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to place the financial
interests of their owners
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above competing interests.
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In fact the corporation
is legally bound
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to put its bottom line
ahead of everything else
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even the public good.
314
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That�s not
a law of nature
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that's a very
specific decision.
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In fact
a judicial decision.
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So they�re concerned only
for the short term profit
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of their stockholders who are
very highly concentrated.
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To whom do these
companies owe loyalty?
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What does loyalty mean?
321
00:16:06,327 --> 00:16:07,905
Well it turns
out that
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that was a rather
naive concept anyways
323
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as corporations are
always owed obligation
324
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to themselves to get large
and to get profitable.
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In doing this
326
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it tends to be more
profitable to the extent
327
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it can make other
people pay for the bills
328
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for its impact
on society.
329
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There's a terrible word that
economists use for this
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called externalities.
331
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An externality is the effect
of a transaction
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between two individuals.
333
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Third party who
has not consented to
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or played any role
in the carrying out
335
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of that transaction
336
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And there are real
problems in that area.
337
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There�s no
doubt about it.
338
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Running a business is
a tough proposition.
339
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There are costs to be
minimized at every turn
340
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and at some point
the corporation says
341
00:17:01,462 --> 00:17:03,895
you know let somebody
else deal with that.
342
00:17:04,307 --> 00:17:07,299
Let's let somebody else
supply the military power
343
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to the middle east to protect
the oil at its source.
344
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Let's let somebody else build
the roads that we can drive
345
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these automobiles on.
346
00:17:15,787 --> 00:17:19,621
Let's let somebody
else have those problems
347
00:17:19,627 --> 00:17:22,824
And that is where
externalities come from
348
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that notion of let somebody
else deal with that.
349
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I got all I can
handle myself.
350
00:17:28,747 --> 00:17:31,136
A corporation is an
externalizing machine
351
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in the same way that a shark
is a killing machine.
352
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Each one is designed
in a very efficient way
353
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to accomplish
particular objectives.
354
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In the achievement
of those objectives
355
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there isn�t any question
of malevolence or of will.
356
00:17:47,947 --> 00:17:49,858
The enterprise
has within it
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00:17:49,867 --> 00:17:51,459
and the shark
has within it
358
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those characteristics that
enable it to do that
359
00:17:54,187 --> 00:17:56,143
for which it was designed.
360
00:17:56,227 --> 00:17:58,377
The pressure is
on the corporation
361
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to deliver results now
362
00:18:01,827 --> 00:18:03,746
and to externalize
any cost
363
00:18:03,747 --> 00:18:05,942
that this unwary
or uncaring public
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will allow it
to eternalize.
365
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To determine the kind
of personality
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00:18:21,141 --> 00:18:22,420
that drives the corporation
367
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to behave like
an externalizing machine
368
00:18:24,907 --> 00:18:25,976
we can analyze it
369
00:18:26,347 --> 00:18:28,065
like a psychiatrist
would a patient.
370
00:18:30,187 --> 00:18:32,018
We can even formulate
a diagnosis
371
00:18:32,107 --> 00:18:34,575
on the basis of typical
case histories of harm
372
00:18:34,576 --> 00:18:36,737
that is inflicted
on others
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selected from a universe
of corporate activity.
374
00:18:55,427 --> 00:18:56,382
Well this is the office
375
00:18:56,867 --> 00:18:58,786
of the national
labour committee
376
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here in the garment area
of New York City.
377
00:19:02,067 --> 00:19:05,706
It's a little
bit dishevelled.
378
00:19:05,707 --> 00:19:09,302
These are all from
different campaigns.
379
00:19:09,547 --> 00:19:12,619
To make this stuff
concrete as possible
380
00:19:12,907 --> 00:19:16,377
we purchased all of
the products from the factories
381
00:19:16,378 --> 00:19:16,746
that we're talking about.
382
00:19:16,747 --> 00:19:21,218
This shirt sells
for $ 14.99.
383
00:19:21,547 --> 00:19:24,778
And the women who made
this shirt got paid $ 0.03.
384
00:19:24,907 --> 00:19:27,819
Liz Claiborne jackets
made in El Salvador
385
00:19:27,820 --> 00:19:30,141
The jackets are $ 178
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00:19:30,467 --> 00:19:32,378
and the workers were
paid $ 0.74
387
00:19:32,387 --> 00:19:34,139
for every jacket they made.
388
00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:36,582
Alpine car stereos
$ 0.31 an hour.
389
00:19:36,707 --> 00:19:37,662
It's not just sneakers.
390
00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:38,816
It's not just apparel.
391
00:19:39,107 --> 00:19:40,984
It's everything.
392
00:19:44,227 --> 00:19:47,139
We were in Honduras
393
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and some workers they knew
what kind of work we did
394
00:19:49,902 --> 00:19:52,222
and they approached
us and said
395
00:19:52,267 --> 00:19:54,622
conditions in our
factory are horrible.
396
00:19:54,667 --> 00:19:56,339
Will you please
meet with us.
397
00:19:56,587 --> 00:19:57,463
And we said we would.
398
00:19:57,547 --> 00:19:59,742
But you cant meet in
the developing world
399
00:19:59,947 --> 00:20:02,177
you cant walk up in
a factory with your notebook
400
00:20:02,347 --> 00:20:04,099
and workers come
up and interview them.
401
00:20:04,267 --> 00:20:05,416
I mean there's
goons there�s spies
402
00:20:05,417 --> 00:20:05,898
the military police
403
00:20:06,187 --> 00:20:08,826
so you do everything
in a clandestine manner.
404
00:20:08,827 --> 00:20:09,906
We are about
to start the meeting
405
00:20:10,027 --> 00:20:11,745
and in walk three guys
406
00:20:11,947 --> 00:20:13,665
very tough looking guys.
407
00:20:13,867 --> 00:20:15,823
The company had found
out about our meeting
408
00:20:15,824 --> 00:20:16,902
and sent these spies.
409
00:20:17,227 --> 00:20:18,979
Obviously we didn�t
have the meeting.
410
00:20:19,067 --> 00:20:20,864
But these young girls
were really bright
411
00:20:20,867 --> 00:20:22,619
And as they
were leaving
412
00:20:22,787 --> 00:20:23,746
away from the eyesight
of the spies
413
00:20:23,747 --> 00:20:25,942
they started to put their hands
underneath the table.
414
00:20:26,147 --> 00:20:28,502
And I put my hand
under there
415
00:20:28,547 --> 00:20:30,378
and they put into my hand
their pay stubs.
416
00:20:30,467 --> 00:20:33,345
So wed know
who they were
417
00:20:33,827 --> 00:20:34,703
what they were paid
418
00:20:34,787 --> 00:20:36,584
and the labels that
they made in the factory
419
00:20:36,707 --> 00:20:38,626
so wed know who
they worked for.
420
00:20:38,627 --> 00:20:41,346
So I took my hand
after everyone had left.
421
00:20:41,467 --> 00:20:42,786
And in the palm
of my hand
422
00:20:42,907 --> 00:20:44,579
was the face was of
Kathy Lee Gifford
423
00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:46,746
And on the bottom
of it was
424
00:20:46,747 --> 00:20:49,341
A portion of the proceeds
from the sale of this garment
425
00:20:49,627 --> 00:20:52,585
would be donated to various
children�s charities.
426
00:20:52,586 --> 00:20:54,737
Very touching
gets you right here.
427
00:20:54,907 --> 00:20:56,818
Wal-Mart is telling you
if you purchase these pants
428
00:20:57,307 --> 00:20:58,706
and Kathy Lee
is telling you
429
00:20:58,747 --> 00:20:59,721
if you purchase
these pants
430
00:20:59,722 --> 00:21:00,696
you will be
helping children.
431
00:21:01,147 --> 00:21:02,466
The problem was
432
00:21:02,587 --> 00:21:04,179
the people that
handed us this label
433
00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:05,346
were 13 years of age.
434
00:21:06,427 --> 00:21:10,215
Do many people
in your family work here?
435
00:21:10,216 --> 00:21:11,106
Just me.
436
00:21:11,107 --> 00:21:11,425
How many people
do you support?
437
00:21:11,587 --> 00:21:13,145
Eight people?
438
00:21:13,507 --> 00:21:15,577
And how do you do it with
that salary is it enough?
439
00:21:15,578 --> 00:21:17,816
No.
440
00:21:19,627 --> 00:21:21,265
Let's look at it from
a different point of view
441
00:21:21,547 --> 00:21:23,185
Let's look at it
from a point of view
442
00:21:23,467 --> 00:21:30,259
of the people in Bangladesh
who are starving to death.
443
00:21:30,260 --> 00:21:33,657
The people in China
who are starving to death
444
00:21:34,027 --> 00:21:37,224
and the only thing that they
have to offer to anybody
445
00:21:37,387 --> 00:21:40,805
that is worth anything
446
00:21:40,806 --> 00:21:44,106
is their low
cost labour.
447
00:21:44,107 --> 00:21:47,224
And in effect what
they�re saying to the world
448
00:21:47,467 --> 00:21:50,618
is they have this big
flag that says
449
00:21:50,827 --> 00:21:52,746
Come over and hire us.
450
00:21:52,747 --> 00:21:55,545
We will work
for $ 0.10 an hour.
451
00:21:55,627 --> 00:21:57,822
Because $ 0.10 an hour
will buy us the rice
452
00:21:58,027 --> 00:22:00,825
that's wanted not
to starve.
453
00:22:00,907 --> 00:22:04,980
And come and rescue us
from our circumstance.
454
00:22:05,227 --> 00:22:08,586
And so when Nike comes in
455
00:22:08,587 --> 00:22:10,976
they are regarded by
everybody in the community
456
00:22:10,987 --> 00:22:12,545
as an enormous godsend.
457
00:22:18,507 --> 00:22:19,496
Hey wait!
458
00:22:19,907 --> 00:22:22,421
You are not
permitted to be here!
459
00:22:22,422 --> 00:22:23,057
The door was wide open.
460
00:22:23,267 --> 00:22:24,017
No no no no no.
461
00:22:24,227 --> 00:22:25,103
That�s my clothes.
462
00:22:25,107 --> 00:22:25,903
Those are my clothes.
463
00:22:26,067 --> 00:22:27,785
This is not your clothes.
464
00:22:27,987 --> 00:22:29,386
Why your camera!?
465
00:22:29,387 --> 00:22:30,536
Don�t touch the woman.
466
00:22:30,537 --> 00:22:31,382
Why!?
467
00:22:31,587 --> 00:22:33,578
This is a private company.
468
00:22:33,987 --> 00:22:37,662
Without permission
how can you come here?
469
00:22:37,827 --> 00:22:40,261
Yes well the door
was wide open
470
00:22:40,262 --> 00:22:42,661
The doors
for employees
471
00:22:42,662 --> 00:22:44,219
not for you.
472
00:22:45,507 --> 00:22:46,781
We went through
the garbage dump
473
00:22:46,947 --> 00:22:47,857
in the Dominican
Republic.
474
00:22:47,907 --> 00:22:48,862
We always do this
kind of stuff
475
00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:50,266
we dig around.
476
00:22:50,707 --> 00:22:53,062
One day we found
a big pile
477
00:22:53,107 --> 00:22:55,462
of Nikes internal
pricing documents.
478
00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:58,101
Nike assigns a time
frame to each operation.
479
00:22:58,387 --> 00:23:00,218
They don�t talk
about minutes.
480
00:23:00,307 --> 00:23:04,061
They break the timeframe into
ten thousandths of a second.
481
00:23:04,147 --> 00:23:06,523
You get to the bottom
of all 22 operations;
482
00:23:06,524 --> 00:23:08,900
they give the workers 6.6
minutes to make the shirt.
483
00:23:08,947 --> 00:23:10,938
It's $ 0.70 an hour
in the Dominican Republic.
484
00:23:11,347 --> 00:23:14,464
That�s 6.6 minutes
equals $ 0.08.
485
00:23:14,587 --> 00:23:15,546
These are Nikes documents.
486
00:23:15,547 --> 00:23:17,663
That means the wages come to
three tenths of one percent
487
00:23:17,947 --> 00:23:19,464
of the retail price.
488
00:23:19,465 --> 00:23:20,982
This is the reality.
489
00:23:21,307 --> 00:23:23,946
It's the science
of exploitation.
490
00:23:34,747 --> 00:23:37,022
What happens in the areas
where these corporations
491
00:23:37,147 --> 00:23:38,375
go in and are successful?
492
00:23:38,587 --> 00:23:43,615
They soon find that they cant
do anymore in that country
493
00:23:43,867 --> 00:23:47,143
because the wages
are too high now.
494
00:23:47,227 --> 00:23:48,182
And what�s that another
way of saying
495
00:23:48,187 --> 00:23:49,626
well the people are
no longer desperate.
496
00:23:49,627 --> 00:23:52,221
So okay we�ve used up
all the desperate people there
497
00:23:52,507 --> 00:23:55,305
they�re all plump and
healthy and wealthy.
498
00:23:55,387 --> 00:23:59,266
Let�s move on to the next
desperate lot and employ them
499
00:23:59,267 --> 00:24:00,540
and raise their level up.
500
00:24:12,147 --> 00:24:14,138
Well the whole idea of
the export processing zone
501
00:24:14,547 --> 00:24:17,300
is that it will be the
first step towards
502
00:24:17,307 --> 00:24:19,546
this wonderful
new development
503
00:24:19,547 --> 00:24:22,141
through the investment that�s
attracted to these countries
504
00:24:22,427 --> 00:24:23,860
there will be
a trickle down effect
505
00:24:23,867 --> 00:24:25,061
into the communities.
506
00:24:25,307 --> 00:24:28,424
But because so many countries
are now in the game
507
00:24:28,507 --> 00:24:31,021
of creating these
free trade enclaves
508
00:24:31,267 --> 00:24:33,906
they have to keep providing
more and more incentives
509
00:24:34,147 --> 00:24:38,982
for companies to come to their
little denationalized pocket.
510
00:24:38,983 --> 00:24:41,826
And the tax holidays
get longer.
511
00:24:41,827 --> 00:24:43,897
So the workers rarely
make enough money
512
00:24:44,227 --> 00:24:45,660
to buy
three meals a days
513
00:24:45,667 --> 00:24:47,783
let alone feed
their local economy.
514
00:25:17,067 --> 00:25:20,184
Something happened in 1940
515
00:25:20,427 --> 00:25:23,783
which marked the beginning
of a new era.
516
00:25:23,787 --> 00:25:29,384
The era of the ability
to synthesize and create.
517
00:25:29,547 --> 00:25:32,426
On an unlimited scale
518
00:25:32,427 --> 00:25:35,021
new chemicals that had
never existed before
519
00:25:35,307 --> 00:25:36,422
in the world.
520
00:25:36,747 --> 00:25:38,666
And using the
magic of research
521
00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:41,022
oil companies compete
with each other
522
00:25:41,067 --> 00:25:43,820
in taking the petroleum
molecule apart
523
00:25:43,947 --> 00:25:47,496
and rearranging it into
well you name it...
524
00:25:47,787 --> 00:25:50,064
So suddenly it became possible
525
00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:52,342
to produce any new chemical
526
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:53,741
synthetic chemicals
527
00:25:53,907 --> 00:25:55,863
the likes of which had never
existed before in the world
528
00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:58,660
for any purpose and
at virtually no cost.
529
00:25:59,667 --> 00:26:05,344
Fabrics toot brushes
tires insecticides
530
00:26:05,427 --> 00:26:08,339
cosmetics weed killers.
531
00:26:08,787 --> 00:26:13,941
A whole galaxy of things to
make a better life on earth.
532
00:26:14,067 --> 00:26:16,297
For instance if you wanted
to go to a chemist and say
533
00:26:16,298 --> 00:26:18,626
look I want to have
a chemical say a pesticide
534
00:26:19,147 --> 00:26:22,026
which will persist
throughout the food chain
535
00:26:22,027 --> 00:26:25,178
and I don�t want to have
to renew it very very often
536
00:26:25,387 --> 00:26:28,584
Id like it to be
relatively non-destructible
537
00:26:28,585 --> 00:26:30,617
and then he�d put two
benzene molecules
538
00:26:30,947 --> 00:26:33,415
on the blackboard and
add a chlorine here
539
00:26:33,416 --> 00:26:35,542
and a chlorine there
540
00:26:35,747 --> 00:26:36,941
that was DDT!
541
00:26:38,147 --> 00:26:40,024
When the eighth army needed
Jap civilians to help them out
542
00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:41,500
in our occupation
543
00:26:41,507 --> 00:26:44,101
they called on native
doctors to administer DDT
544
00:26:44,387 --> 00:26:46,184
under the supervision
of our men
545
00:26:46,307 --> 00:26:48,662
to stand a potential
typhus epidemic.
546
00:26:48,707 --> 00:26:51,585
Dusting like this goes a long
way in checking disease
547
00:26:51,587 --> 00:26:54,579
and the laughs on them.
548
00:26:54,787 --> 00:26:56,266
"Pardon our dust"
549
00:27:06,787 --> 00:27:11,941
As the petrochemical
era grew and grew
550
00:27:12,067 --> 00:27:16,822
warning signs emerged that
some of these chemicals
551
00:27:16,867 --> 00:27:19,256
could pose hazards.
552
00:27:19,267 --> 00:27:23,704
The data initially were
trivial anecdotal
553
00:27:24,067 --> 00:27:28,746
but gradually a body of data
started accumulating
554
00:27:28,747 --> 00:27:33,377
to the extent that we now know
that the synthetic chemicals
555
00:27:33,467 --> 00:27:36,140
which have permeated
our workplace
556
00:27:36,347 --> 00:27:37,860
our consumer products
557
00:27:38,267 --> 00:27:40,656
our air our water
558
00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:43,704
produced cancer
and also birth defects
559
00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:45,219
and some other
toxic effects.
560
00:28:11,067 --> 00:28:15,060
Furthermore industry
has known about this
561
00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:16,979
at least most industries
have known about this
562
00:28:17,147 --> 00:28:19,581
and have attempted
to trivialize these risks.
563
00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:28,938
If I take a gun and shoot
you that�s criminal.
564
00:28:29,147 --> 00:28:31,466
If I expose you
to some chemicals
565
00:28:31,467 --> 00:28:33,786
which knowingly are
going to kill you
566
00:28:33,947 --> 00:28:35,380
what difference is there?
567
00:28:35,867 --> 00:28:37,744
The difference is that it
takes longer to kill you.
568
00:28:40,467 --> 00:28:43,937
We are now in the midst
of a major cancer epidemic
569
00:28:43,938 --> 00:28:45,977
and I have no doubt
570
00:28:46,227 --> 00:28:49,139
and I have documented
the basis for this
571
00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:52,986
that industry is
largely responsible
572
00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:57,181
for this overwhelming
epidemic of cancer
573
00:28:57,267 --> 00:29:01,226
in which one in every two men
get cancer in their lifetimes
574
00:29:01,227 --> 00:29:04,497
and one in every three
women get cancer.
575
00:29:21,267 --> 00:29:23,861
Towards the end
of 1989
576
00:29:24,147 --> 00:29:26,946
a great box of documents
arrived at my office
577
00:29:26,947 --> 00:29:29,746
without any indication
where they came from.
578
00:29:29,907 --> 00:29:32,421
And I opened them
579
00:29:32,787 --> 00:29:35,745
and found in it a complete
set of Monsanto files
580
00:29:35,746 --> 00:29:40,866
dealing with toxicological
testing of cows
581
00:29:40,867 --> 00:29:42,425
who�d been given RBGH.
582
00:29:42,707 --> 00:29:45,744
BST trade name Posilac is
being used in more than
583
00:29:46,067 --> 00:29:48,422
a quarter of the dairy herds
in the United States
584
00:29:48,467 --> 00:29:49,906
according to Monsanto.
585
00:29:49,907 --> 00:29:52,216
The milk is being drunk
by a large portion
586
00:29:52,307 --> 00:29:53,899
of the American population
587
00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:56,104
since the food and drug
administration declared it safe
588
00:29:56,147 --> 00:29:58,066
for both cows and humans...
589
00:29:58,067 --> 00:29:59,978
And at that the
Monsanto was saying
590
00:29:59,987 --> 00:30:01,215
There�s no
evidence whatsoever
591
00:30:01,427 --> 00:30:02,621
of any adverse affects
592
00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:04,505
We don�t use antibiotics.
593
00:30:04,787 --> 00:30:08,416
And this clearly showed
that they had lied
594
00:30:08,417 --> 00:30:10,024
through their teeth.
595
00:30:16,227 --> 00:30:18,741
The files described areas
of chronic inflammation
596
00:30:18,742 --> 00:30:20,458
in the heart lungs
kidneys spleen
597
00:30:20,547 --> 00:30:22,458
also reproductive effects
598
00:30:22,787 --> 00:30:26,746
also a whole series
of other problems.
599
00:30:28,067 --> 00:30:29,944
...the most comprehensive
independent assessment of the drug
600
00:30:29,987 --> 00:30:33,582
"concludes that bust
results in un necessary pain
601
00:30:33,827 --> 00:30:36,226
suffering and
distress for the cows.
602
00:30:36,227 --> 00:30:38,821
This is not acceptable
for a drug designed simply
603
00:30:39,107 --> 00:30:42,144
to increase milk production...
604
00:30:42,467 --> 00:30:44,386
It is a silly product.
605
00:30:44,387 --> 00:30:46,981
We have the industrial
world is a wash in milk.
606
00:30:47,267 --> 00:30:48,586
We're over producing milk.
607
00:30:48,707 --> 00:30:50,618
We actually have governments
around the world
608
00:30:50,627 --> 00:30:53,505
who pay farmers not
to produce milk.
609
00:30:53,507 --> 00:30:55,737
So the first product
Monsanto comes up with
610
00:30:55,907 --> 00:30:59,058
is a product that produces
more of what we don�t need.
611
00:30:59,267 --> 00:31:03,545
Of course you�ll want to inject
Posilac in every eligible cow
612
00:31:03,587 --> 00:31:07,023
as each cow is not treated
is a lost income opportunity.
613
00:31:07,427 --> 00:31:08,386
But the problem was
614
00:31:08,387 --> 00:31:10,343
that use of
the artificial hormone
615
00:31:10,787 --> 00:31:13,620
caused all sorts of
problems for the cows.
616
00:31:13,667 --> 00:31:15,586
It caused something
called mastitis
617
00:31:15,587 --> 00:31:20,103
which is a very painful
infection of the udders.
618
00:31:20,267 --> 00:31:21,302
When you milk the cow
619
00:31:21,707 --> 00:31:23,425
if the cow
has bad mastitis
620
00:31:23,426 --> 00:31:23,943
some of the
621
00:31:24,107 --> 00:31:25,301
and I don�t know how to
say this in a you know
622
00:31:25,547 --> 00:31:27,906
I hope people aren�t
watching at dinnertime
623
00:31:27,907 --> 00:31:30,265
but the pus from the
infection of the udders
624
00:31:30,347 --> 00:31:31,541
ends up in the milk.
625
00:31:31,787 --> 00:31:33,743
And the somatic cell
count they call it
626
00:31:34,187 --> 00:31:35,146
the bacteria count
627
00:31:35,147 --> 00:31:37,900
inside your
milk goes up.
628
00:31:37,987 --> 00:31:40,581
There�s accost to the cows.
629
00:31:40,867 --> 00:31:44,257
The cows get sicker when
they�re injected with RBGH.
630
00:31:44,258 --> 00:31:47,424
They�re injected
with antibiotics.
631
00:31:47,587 --> 00:31:50,897
We know that people are
consuming antibiotics
632
00:31:50,947 --> 00:31:52,175
through their food
633
00:31:52,387 --> 00:31:54,025
and we know that
that�s contributing
634
00:31:54,307 --> 00:31:57,105
to antibiotic resistant
bacteria and diseases.
635
00:31:57,187 --> 00:31:58,984
And we know we're at a
crisis when somebody can go
636
00:31:59,107 --> 00:32:01,416
into a hospital and
get a staff infection
637
00:32:01,507 --> 00:32:03,657
and it cant be
cured and they die.
638
00:32:03,907 --> 00:32:05,826
That�s a crisis.
639
00:32:05,827 --> 00:32:07,021
Bad for the cow
640
00:32:07,267 --> 00:32:09,019
Bad for the farmer
641
00:32:09,187 --> 00:32:11,257
Bad potentially
for the consumer
642
00:32:11,587 --> 00:32:12,546
The jury is out
643
00:32:12,547 --> 00:32:14,424
we see a lot of
conflicting evidence
644
00:32:14,947 --> 00:32:16,503
about potential
health risk.
645
00:32:16,504 --> 00:32:18,059
And of course
as a consumer
646
00:32:18,307 --> 00:32:20,582
my belief is why
should I take any risk?
647
00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:27,978
Factory farm cows have not
been the only victims
648
00:32:28,387 --> 00:32:30,662
of Monsanto products.
649
00:32:30,787 --> 00:32:34,416
Large areas of Vietnam were
deforested by the us military
650
00:32:34,417 --> 00:32:35,865
using Monsanto�s agent orange.
651
00:32:39,427 --> 00:32:41,065
The toxic herbicide
reportedly caused
652
00:32:41,347 --> 00:32:43,746
over 50000 birth defects
653
00:32:43,747 --> 00:32:47,899
and hundreds of thousands of cancers
in Vietnamese civilians and soldiers
654
00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:52,663
and in former American troops
serving in South East Asia.
655
00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:54,786
Unlike the Vietnamese victims
656
00:32:54,787 --> 00:32:57,506
U. S. Vietnam war veterans
exposed to Agent Orange
657
00:32:57,667 --> 00:33:01,979
were able to sue Monsanto
for causing their illnesses.
658
00:33:02,427 --> 00:33:04,179
Monsanto settled
out of court
659
00:33:04,347 --> 00:33:07,706
paying $80 million
in damages.
660
00:33:07,707 --> 00:33:10,175
But it never
admitted guilt
661
00:33:32,667 --> 00:33:36,216
Sleeping in a motel
in Brewer Maine one night
662
00:33:36,217 --> 00:33:37,585
I woke up with
terrible hay fever
663
00:33:37,947 --> 00:33:39,141
and my eyes were burning.
664
00:33:39,387 --> 00:33:40,740
And I looked out
at the river
665
00:33:40,827 --> 00:33:42,658
and there were great
mounds of white foam
666
00:33:42,747 --> 00:33:44,465
going right
down the river.
667
00:33:44,467 --> 00:33:45,695
And the next morning
I got up and I said
668
00:33:45,907 --> 00:33:47,340
My God what was
that happening last night
669
00:33:47,347 --> 00:33:48,541
He said "Oh that�s
just the river".
670
00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:49,586
And I said
"what do you mean?"
671
00:33:49,587 --> 00:33:51,100
He said "Well look every
night the paper company sends
672
00:33:51,507 --> 00:33:53,426
the stuff down the river."
673
00:33:53,427 --> 00:33:54,746
And I said "What are
you talking about?"
674
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:56,186
And he said "Don�t
you understand?"
675
00:33:56,307 --> 00:33:59,538
"That show we get rid of the
effluent from the paper mills."
676
00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:01,578
Well I knew at that time
I had been in the business.
677
00:34:02,067 --> 00:34:04,456
I had sold oil
to the paper mills.
678
00:34:04,467 --> 00:34:05,424
I knew all the owners.
679
00:34:05,425 --> 00:34:06,382
I had been in politics.
680
00:34:06,387 --> 00:34:07,456
I knew the people
in the towns.
681
00:34:07,827 --> 00:34:10,944
I knew not one constituent
of the paper mills
682
00:34:10,945 --> 00:34:13,096
wanted to have
the river polluted.
683
00:34:13,587 --> 00:34:15,506
And yet here the river
was being polluted.
684
00:34:15,507 --> 00:34:19,102
And it was more or less as
if we created a doom machine.
685
00:34:19,347 --> 00:34:22,305
In our search for wealth
and for prosperity
686
00:34:22,547 --> 00:34:24,265
we created something that�s
going to destroy us.
687
00:34:31,667 --> 00:34:34,306
The traders who are
involved in the market
688
00:34:34,547 --> 00:34:35,775
are not guys
who are
689
00:34:35,987 --> 00:34:36,746
whose moral fibre
690
00:34:36,747 --> 00:34:38,544
when it comes to
environmental conditions
691
00:34:38,667 --> 00:34:41,704
are going to be
rattled at all
692
00:34:42,027 --> 00:34:44,382
They�re seeing dollars
and they�re making money.
693
00:34:44,427 --> 00:34:46,463
Brokers don�t stay away
from copper
694
00:34:46,627 --> 00:34:48,902
because it violates
their religious beliefs
695
00:34:49,027 --> 00:34:51,746
or your environmental
policies.
696
00:34:51,907 --> 00:34:53,181
No.
697
00:34:53,347 --> 00:34:54,666
There are times
when you think about it
698
00:34:54,787 --> 00:34:58,146
but it's fleeting.
699
00:34:58,147 --> 00:34:59,580
It really is
a fleeting moment.
700
00:34:59,587 --> 00:35:01,623
It's like yeah
oh yeah yeah
701
00:35:01,987 --> 00:35:04,182
well a town is being
polluted down there in Peru
702
00:35:04,387 --> 00:35:07,026
but hey this guy
needs to buy some copper.
703
00:35:07,267 --> 00:35:10,623
I�m getting paid
a commission too.
704
00:35:10,627 --> 00:35:13,539
Our information that we receive
does not include anything
705
00:35:13,540 --> 00:35:14,946
about the environmental
conditions
706
00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:16,903
because until
the environmental conditions
707
00:35:17,307 --> 00:35:20,140
become a commodity
themselves or are being traded
708
00:35:20,187 --> 00:35:23,623
then obviously we will not
have anything to do with that.
709
00:35:23,624 --> 00:35:26,619
It doesn�t come into
our psyche at all.
710
00:35:26,747 --> 00:35:29,341
It's so far away and
it's you hardly hear
711
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:30,586
anything about it.
712
00:35:30,587 --> 00:35:32,339
I mean keep in mind there are
things going on right in our
713
00:35:32,507 --> 00:35:35,658
backyards for god sake.
714
00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:37,306
We trade live hogs.
715
00:35:37,307 --> 00:35:39,582
I mean there are so many pigs
in the state of Carolina
716
00:35:39,707 --> 00:35:41,299
and they�re
polluting the rivers
717
00:35:41,627 --> 00:35:44,858
but how often do you
find out about that?
718
00:35:50,267 --> 00:35:53,241
At Multinational Monitor
we�ve put together a list
719
00:35:53,242 --> 00:35:56,216
of the top corporate
criminals of the 1990s.
720
00:35:56,507 --> 00:35:59,863
We went back and looked at
all the criminal fines that
721
00:35:59,867 --> 00:36:02,700
corporations had
paid in the decade.
722
00:36:03,107 --> 00:36:06,941
Exxon pled guilty in connection
to federal criminal charges
723
00:36:06,947 --> 00:36:11,737
with the Valdez spill and paid
$ 125 million in criminal fines.
724
00:36:11,747 --> 00:36:12,623
General Electric
725
00:36:12,707 --> 00:36:14,186
was guilty of defrauding
the federal government
726
00:36:14,187 --> 00:36:17,822
and paid $ 9.5 million
in criminal fines.
727
00:36:17,987 --> 00:36:20,626
Chevron was guilty of
environmental violations
728
00:36:20,867 --> 00:36:22,698
and paid $ 6.5 million
in fines.
729
00:36:22,787 --> 00:36:24,982
Mitsubishi was guilty
of anti-trust violations
730
00:36:25,187 --> 00:36:26,146
and paid $ 1.8 million in fines.
731
00:36:26,147 --> 00:36:28,866
IBM was guilty of
illegal exports and paid.
732
00:36:29,347 --> 00:36:32,100
Eastman Kodak was guilty of
environmental violations.
733
00:36:32,101 --> 00:36:33,745
Pfizer the drug manufacturer
734
00:36:33,947 --> 00:36:38,179
was guilty of
antitrust violations.
735
00:36:38,227 --> 00:36:39,740
Odwalla was guilty of food and
drug regulatory violations.
736
00:36:39,741 --> 00:36:41,976
Sears was guilty of...
737
00:36:42,067 --> 00:36:44,376
Damon Clinical Laboratories
was guilty of...
738
00:36:44,467 --> 00:36:45,946
Blue Cross Blue
Shield was guilty of
739
00:37:02,227 --> 00:37:03,626
Again and again we have
the problem
740
00:37:03,987 --> 00:37:06,296
that whether you obey
the law or not
741
00:37:06,387 --> 00:37:08,821
is a matter whether
its cost effective.
742
00:37:08,822 --> 00:37:10,106
If the chance
of getting caught
743
00:37:10,227 --> 00:37:14,664
and the penalties are less
than it costs to comply
744
00:37:15,027 --> 00:37:17,382
people think of it as
just a business decision.
745
00:37:19,827 --> 00:37:22,864
Drawing the metaphor of
the early attempts to fly.
746
00:37:33,547 --> 00:37:37,506
Theban going off of a very
high cliff in his airplane
747
00:37:37,507 --> 00:37:38,661
with the wings flapping
748
00:37:38,827 --> 00:37:40,624
and the guys
flapping the wings
749
00:37:40,747 --> 00:37:42,586
and the wind
is in his face
750
00:37:42,587 --> 00:37:44,623
and this poor fool
think she�s flying
751
00:37:44,987 --> 00:37:47,101
but in fact
he�s in freefall
752
00:37:47,102 --> 00:37:49,216
and he just doesn�t
know it yet
753
00:37:49,307 --> 00:37:51,423
because the ground
is so far away
754
00:37:51,707 --> 00:37:54,699
but of course the craft
is doomed to crash.
755
00:37:58,907 --> 00:38:00,306
That�s the way our
civilization is
756
00:38:00,347 --> 00:38:01,496
the very high cliff
757
00:38:01,707 --> 00:38:05,063
represents the virtually
united resources
758
00:38:05,067 --> 00:38:08,264
we seem to have when
we began this journey.
759
00:38:08,427 --> 00:38:10,895
The craft isn�t flying
760
00:38:11,307 --> 00:38:14,663
because it's not built according
to the laws of aerodynamics
761
00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:17,022
and is subject
to the law of gravity.
762
00:38:17,067 --> 00:38:18,506
Civilization is not flying
763
00:38:18,507 --> 00:38:22,386
because it's not built according
to the laws of aerodynamics
764
00:38:22,827 --> 00:38:25,226
for civilizations
that would fly.
765
00:38:25,227 --> 00:38:27,946
And of course the ground
is still a long way away
766
00:38:28,107 --> 00:38:31,656
but some people have seen
that ground rushing up
767
00:38:31,947 --> 00:38:33,778
sooner than
the rest of us have.
768
00:38:33,867 --> 00:38:37,303
The visionaries have seen it
and have told us its coming.
769
00:38:40,107 --> 00:38:42,986
There�s not a
single scientific
770
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:46,821
peer reviewed paper published
in the last 25years
771
00:38:46,827 --> 00:38:52,936
that would contradict
this scenario
772
00:38:53,427 --> 00:38:56,066
Every living system
of earth
773
00:38:56,107 --> 00:38:57,066
is in decline
774
00:38:57,067 --> 00:39:00,980
every life support system
of earth is in decline
775
00:39:01,387 --> 00:39:04,266
and these together
constitute the biosphere
776
00:39:04,267 --> 00:39:07,806
the biosphere that supports
and nurtures all of life
777
00:39:07,807 --> 00:39:11,346
not just our life but perhaps
30 million other species
778
00:39:11,667 --> 00:39:13,658
that share
this planet with us.
779
00:39:19,227 --> 00:39:22,185
The typical company
of the 20th century
780
00:39:22,267 --> 00:39:25,418
extractive wasteful
abusive linear
781
00:39:25,419 --> 00:39:27,138
in all of its processes
782
00:39:27,547 --> 00:39:28,866
taking from the earth
783
00:39:28,987 --> 00:39:31,666
making wasting
sending its products
784
00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:33,976
back to the biosphere
waste to a landfill...
785
00:39:37,907 --> 00:39:41,183
I myself was amazed to learn
just how much stuff
786
00:39:41,267 --> 00:39:46,660
the earth has to produce
through our extraction process
787
00:39:47,147 --> 00:39:49,900
to produce a dollar of
revenue for our company.
788
00:39:49,901 --> 00:39:51,503
When I learnt
I was flabbergasted.
789
00:39:59,547 --> 00:40:04,063
We are leaving a terrible
legacy of poison
790
00:40:04,064 --> 00:40:08,622
and diminishment
of the environment
791
00:40:08,627 --> 00:40:12,461
for our grandchildren�s
grandchildren
792
00:40:12,947 --> 00:40:15,780
generations not yet born.
793
00:40:15,827 --> 00:40:18,660
Some people have called that
intergeneration tyranny
794
00:40:18,707 --> 00:40:22,383
a form of taxation
without representation
795
00:40:22,384 --> 00:40:26,060
levied by us
on generations yet to be.
796
00:40:29,267 --> 00:40:31,542
It's the wrong
thing to do.
797
00:40:34,987 --> 00:40:36,818
One of the questions
that comes up periodically
798
00:40:36,907 --> 00:40:40,183
is to what extent could
corporation be considered
799
00:40:40,267 --> 00:40:42,986
to be psychopathic.
800
00:40:43,147 --> 00:40:45,866
And if we look at a corporation
as a legal person
801
00:40:46,027 --> 00:40:48,386
that it may not be that
difficult to actually draw
802
00:40:48,387 --> 00:40:50,745
the transition between
psychopathy in the individual
803
00:40:50,827 --> 00:40:53,466
to psychopathy
in a corporation.
804
00:40:53,707 --> 00:40:55,140
We could go through
the characteristics
805
00:40:55,147 --> 00:40:57,945
that define this particular
disorder one by one
806
00:40:58,027 --> 00:41:00,939
and see how they might
apply to corporations.
807
00:41:09,507 --> 00:41:11,304
They would have all
the characteristics
808
00:41:11,427 --> 00:41:13,338
and in fact
in many respects
809
00:41:13,827 --> 00:41:15,146
the corporation
of that sort
810
00:41:15,267 --> 00:41:17,701
is the proto typical
of a psychopath.
811
00:41:23,467 --> 00:41:26,106
If the dominant institution
of our time has been created
812
00:41:26,347 --> 00:41:28,178
in the image of
a psychopath
813
00:41:28,267 --> 00:41:31,225
who bears moral responsibility
for its actions?
814
00:41:33,547 --> 00:41:36,300
Can a building have
moral opinions?
815
00:41:36,787 --> 00:41:39,540
Can a building have
social responsibility?
816
00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:42,022
If a building cant have
social responsibility
817
00:41:42,067 --> 00:41:44,466
what does it mean to
say a corporation can?
818
00:41:44,467 --> 00:41:49,336
A corporation is simply
an artificial legal structure
819
00:41:49,587 --> 00:41:51,339
but the people
who are engaged in it
820
00:41:51,507 --> 00:41:53,145
whether the stockholder
821
00:41:53,427 --> 00:41:55,418
whether the
executives in it
822
00:41:55,419 --> 00:41:57,065
whether the employees
823
00:41:57,267 --> 00:41:59,098
they all have
moral responsibilities.
824
00:42:03,027 --> 00:42:05,302
It's a fair assumption
that every human being
825
00:42:05,347 --> 00:42:06,336
real human beings
826
00:42:06,337 --> 00:42:07,217
flesh and
blood ones
827
00:42:07,267 --> 00:42:08,541
not corporations
828
00:42:08,707 --> 00:42:11,858
but every flesh and blood
human being is a moral person.
829
00:42:12,067 --> 00:42:13,978
You know we've
got the same genes
830
00:42:13,987 --> 00:42:15,500
we're more or less
the same
831
00:42:15,787 --> 00:42:18,859
but our nature
832
00:42:19,147 --> 00:42:20,106
the nature of humans
833
00:42:20,107 --> 00:42:21,699
allows all kinds
of behaviour.
834
00:42:22,027 --> 00:42:24,963
I mean everyone of us
under some circumstances
835
00:42:24,964 --> 00:42:27,899
could be a gas chamber
attendant and a saint.
836
00:42:32,587 --> 00:42:37,103
No job in my experience
with Goodyear
837
00:42:37,267 --> 00:42:40,862
has been as frustrating
as the CEO job.
838
00:42:41,107 --> 00:42:43,706
Because even though
the perception is
839
00:42:43,707 --> 00:42:46,305
that you have absolute power
to do whatever you want
840
00:42:46,306 --> 00:42:49,025
the reality is
you don�t have that power
841
00:42:49,587 --> 00:42:52,465
and so metes if you had
really free hand
842
00:42:52,467 --> 00:42:54,901
if you really did what
you wanted to do
843
00:42:54,902 --> 00:42:58,382
that suits your
personal thoughts
844
00:42:58,707 --> 00:43:01,386
and your personal priorities
you�d act differently.
845
00:43:01,387 --> 00:43:04,065
But as a CEOm
you cannot do that
846
00:43:04,387 --> 00:43:06,855
Layoff shave become
so wide-spread
847
00:43:06,856 --> 00:43:09,938
that people
tend to believe that
848
00:43:10,147 --> 00:43:12,217
CEOs make these decisions
849
00:43:12,547 --> 00:43:15,664
without any consideration
to the human implications
850
00:43:15,665 --> 00:43:16,701
of their decisions
851
00:43:16,827 --> 00:43:21,218
It is never a decision
that any CEO makes lightly.
852
00:43:21,627 --> 00:43:24,986
It is a tough decision.
853
00:43:24,987 --> 00:43:31,540
But it is the consequence
of modern capitalism
854
00:43:31,707 --> 00:43:33,060
When you look
at a corporation
855
00:43:33,147 --> 00:43:36,219
just like when
you look at a slave owner
856
00:43:36,507 --> 00:43:38,418
you want to distinguish
between the institution
857
00:43:38,427 --> 00:43:40,179
and the individual.
858
00:43:40,347 --> 00:43:44,738
So slavery for example
or other forms of tyranny
859
00:43:44,739 --> 00:43:47,056
are inherently monstrous
860
00:43:47,067 --> 00:43:49,137
but the individuals
participating in them
861
00:43:49,467 --> 00:43:51,662
may be the nicest guys
you could imagine
862
00:43:51,867 --> 00:43:55,098
benevolent friendly
nice to their children
863
00:43:55,227 --> 00:44:00,176
even nice to their slaves
caring about other people.
864
00:44:00,177 --> 00:44:03,815
I mean as individuals
they may be anything.
865
00:44:03,867 --> 00:44:06,017
In their institutional
role they're monsters
866
00:44:06,267 --> 00:44:08,462
because the institution
is monstrous.
867
00:44:08,667 --> 00:44:10,146
Then the same is true here.
868
00:44:11,547 --> 00:44:15,506
My wife and l some years
ago had a tour home
869
00:44:15,867 --> 00:44:17,603
a demonstration.
870
00:44:17,604 --> 00:44:19,339
25 people arrived
871
00:44:19,667 --> 00:44:22,135
they hung a big banner
on the top of our house
872
00:44:22,136 --> 00:44:23,625
saying murderers
873
00:44:23,947 --> 00:44:26,336
they danced around outside
with gasmasks and so on.
874
00:45:02,627 --> 00:45:05,044
As a public demonstration
it wasn�t very effective
875
00:45:05,045 --> 00:45:07,461
due to the fact that this
is a very rural area
876
00:45:07,462 --> 00:45:08,064
two people and a dog
877
00:45:08,387 --> 00:45:09,661
and it's not
a very big house
878
00:45:09,827 --> 00:45:11,465
which I think rather
surprised them
879
00:45:11,747 --> 00:45:13,738
but then we sat down
and talked to them
880
00:45:13,739 --> 00:45:16,066
for a couple of hours
881
00:45:16,067 --> 00:45:17,216
and we gave them
tea and coffee
882
00:45:17,507 --> 00:45:19,145
and they had
lunch on our lawn.
883
00:45:34,787 --> 00:45:37,096
After about 20
minutes they said
884
00:45:37,187 --> 00:45:39,701
Well the problem is
not you. It's Shell.
885
00:45:40,067 --> 00:45:42,581
And I said now wait a
minute lets talk about
886
00:45:42,787 --> 00:45:44,140
what is Shell?
887
00:45:44,227 --> 00:45:45,666
It's made up
of people like me.
888
00:45:45,667 --> 00:45:48,022
In the end what we
found in that discussion
889
00:45:48,067 --> 00:45:49,944
were all the things
they we're worried about
890
00:45:49,987 --> 00:45:51,500
I was worried about as well
891
00:45:51,907 --> 00:45:56,139
climate oppressive
regimes human rights
892
00:45:56,227 --> 00:45:58,626
the big difference
between us was
893
00:45:58,627 --> 00:46:01,505
I feel that I can actually
make a contributions to this
894
00:46:01,507 --> 00:46:02,940
these people
were frustrated
895
00:46:03,427 --> 00:46:06,146
because they felt that
they had no nothing to do.
896
00:46:06,307 --> 00:46:09,140
So an individual
CEO lets say
897
00:46:09,187 --> 00:46:11,906
may really care
about the environment
898
00:46:11,907 --> 00:46:12,542
and in fact
899
00:46:13,027 --> 00:46:14,946
since they have such
extraordinary resources
900
00:46:14,947 --> 00:46:17,381
they can even devote some of
their resources to that
901
00:46:17,382 --> 00:46:20,259
without violating
their responsibility
902
00:46:20,707 --> 00:46:24,097
to be totally inhuman
903
00:46:24,098 --> 00:46:24,977
which is why
904
00:46:25,027 --> 00:46:27,621
as the Moody Starts
serve tea to protestors
905
00:46:27,907 --> 00:46:31,695
Shell Nigeria can flare
unrivalled amounts of gas
906
00:46:31,747 --> 00:46:35,865
making it of the worlds single
worst sources of pollution.
907
00:46:35,947 --> 00:46:39,243
And all the professed concerns
about the environment
908
00:46:39,244 --> 00:46:42,540
do not spare Ken Saro Wiwa
and eight other activists
909
00:46:42,907 --> 00:46:46,343
from being hung for opposing
Shells environment practices
910
00:46:46,344 --> 00:46:47,541
in the Niger Delta.
911
00:46:57,067 --> 00:46:58,341
The corporation
is not a person
912
00:46:58,507 --> 00:46:58,986
it doesn�t think.
913
00:46:58,987 --> 00:47:00,340
People in it think
914
00:47:00,427 --> 00:47:04,943
and for them it is legitimate
to create terminator technology.
915
00:47:05,027 --> 00:47:08,542
So that farmers are not
able to save their seeds.
916
00:47:08,867 --> 00:47:12,985
Seeds that will
destroy themselves
917
00:47:13,187 --> 00:47:15,257
through a suicide gene.
918
00:47:15,387 --> 00:47:20,541
Seeds that are designed to only
produce crop in one season.
919
00:47:20,667 --> 00:47:23,066
You really need to
have a brutal mind.
920
00:47:23,067 --> 00:47:27,379
It's a war against evolution
to even think in those terms.
921
00:47:27,387 --> 00:47:31,619
But quite clearly profits are
so much higher in their minds
922
00:47:33,627 --> 00:47:35,066
The profit motive
which drove Klutzy
923
00:47:35,067 --> 00:47:37,661
to accomplish so much
may bring out the evil
924
00:47:37,947 --> 00:47:43,340
as well as the good...
925
00:47:43,341 --> 00:47:44,785
Hellooo?
926
00:47:47,387 --> 00:47:49,266
My work spans
all industry sectors
927
00:47:49,267 --> 00:47:51,781
I mean I virtually have
worked for like Id say
928
00:47:51,987 --> 00:47:55,662
25 percent
of the fortune 500.
929
00:47:55,827 --> 00:47:58,216
I�ve posed as
an investment banker.
930
00:47:58,227 --> 00:48:01,537
I�ve posed as a
venture capitalist.
931
00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:03,657
I�ve set up
front companies
932
00:48:03,987 --> 00:48:08,617
that are executive
recruiting firms.
933
00:48:08,787 --> 00:48:11,426
Essentially I�m a spy.
934
00:48:13,587 --> 00:48:16,226
I'll locate
your employees
935
00:48:16,467 --> 00:48:18,378
and I will tell them
that I�m calling
936
00:48:18,387 --> 00:48:20,105
from Acme
Recruiting Agency
937
00:48:20,307 --> 00:48:22,616
and that I�ve got a
job that pays them
938
00:48:22,707 --> 00:48:24,857
considerably more than
what they�re paying.
939
00:48:25,107 --> 00:48:28,224
Would they mind meeting
me for an interview?
940
00:48:28,467 --> 00:48:29,900
And when the executive
shows up
941
00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:31,101
what he doesn�t
realize is
942
00:48:31,347 --> 00:48:35,056
I�m actually debriefing him
on behalf of a competitor.
943
00:48:35,187 --> 00:48:37,337
That there is no job
and that the office
944
00:48:37,338 --> 00:48:38,825
that he�s at
has been rented
945
00:48:39,027 --> 00:48:43,623
and the picture on my desk
of my family is a phoney
946
00:48:43,827 --> 00:48:46,706
and it's all just a big
elaborate ruse
947
00:48:46,707 --> 00:48:52,100
to glean competitive
information from him.
948
00:48:52,467 --> 00:48:53,786
I don�t feel any guilt.
949
00:48:53,907 --> 00:48:58,059
It's you know what I mean
you have to expect
950
00:48:58,227 --> 00:49:00,377
that guys like me
are out there.
951
00:49:03,027 --> 00:49:05,382
We're predators.
952
00:49:11,667 --> 00:49:14,101
It's about competition
it's about market share
953
00:49:14,547 --> 00:49:16,466
it's about
being aggressive
954
00:49:16,467 --> 00:49:18,621
and it's about
shareholder value.
955
00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:20,776
What is your
stock at today?
956
00:49:21,267 --> 00:49:24,065
If you�re a CEO
957
00:49:24,147 --> 00:49:28,466
I mean do you think your
shareholders really care
958
00:49:28,467 --> 00:49:31,061
whether you�re Billie
Buttercup or not?
959
00:49:31,062 --> 00:49:32,619
Do you think that
they really
960
00:49:32,787 --> 00:49:35,426
they would prefer you
to be a nice guy?
961
00:49:35,667 --> 00:49:38,625
Over having money
in their pocket?
962
00:49:38,626 --> 00:49:40,105
I don�t think so.
963
00:49:40,467 --> 00:49:41,786
I think people want money.
964
00:49:41,907 --> 00:49:43,704
That�s the bottom line.
965
00:49:43,827 --> 00:49:46,182
The fact that most of these
companies are run
966
00:49:46,227 --> 00:49:48,058
by white men
white rich men
967
00:49:48,147 --> 00:49:50,263
means that they
are out of touch
968
00:49:50,547 --> 00:49:52,466
with what the majority
of the world is.
969
00:49:52,467 --> 00:49:53,980
Because the majority
of this planet
970
00:49:53,981 --> 00:49:56,296
are not a bunch
of rich white guys.
971
00:49:56,787 --> 00:49:58,186
They are people
of other colours
972
00:49:58,227 --> 00:49:59,605
they are the majority.
973
00:49:59,606 --> 00:50:00,984
Women are the majority
974
00:50:01,107 --> 00:50:03,143
the poor
and working poor
975
00:50:03,507 --> 00:50:05,782
make up the majority
of this planet.
976
00:50:05,907 --> 00:50:08,306
So the decisions
they make
977
00:50:08,307 --> 00:50:14,223
come from not the reality
that exists in the world.
978
00:50:14,347 --> 00:50:15,575
How much is enough?
979
00:50:15,787 --> 00:50:16,981
How much is enough?
980
00:50:17,227 --> 00:50:18,945
If you are a billionaire
981
00:50:19,147 --> 00:50:20,546
would it be okay just
to be a half a billionaire?
982
00:50:20,587 --> 00:50:23,385
Wouldn�t it be okay
for your company
983
00:50:23,467 --> 00:50:24,741
to make a little
less money...
984
00:50:24,907 --> 00:50:27,216
When I bought those
two airplane tickets
985
00:50:27,307 --> 00:50:30,458
for Phil Knight and myself
to fly to Indonesia
986
00:50:30,467 --> 00:50:34,221
I was prepared for him
to say okay lets go.
987
00:50:34,307 --> 00:50:35,945
Oh no not a chance
988
00:50:36,227 --> 00:50:36,784
Not a chance.
989
00:50:36,785 --> 00:50:37,617
No?
990
00:50:37,667 --> 00:50:38,463
They�re transferable.
991
00:50:38,627 --> 00:50:39,696
I can change it
to another day.
992
00:50:40,067 --> 00:50:40,922
And call me on it.
993
00:50:40,923 --> 00:50:41,777
Call my bluff.
994
00:50:41,987 --> 00:50:42,942
He�s a smart guy.
995
00:50:42,947 --> 00:50:44,266
I mean he�s not
he�s not stupid.
996
00:50:44,387 --> 00:50:46,139
And so I thought okay
get ready for this.
997
00:50:46,307 --> 00:50:49,060
Especially because you know
I bought first-class tickets.
998
00:50:49,187 --> 00:50:52,103
So you know it would be a
comfortable ride at least
999
00:50:52,104 --> 00:50:55,020
you know and of course he
tells me then on camera.
1000
00:50:55,427 --> 00:50:57,657
I�ve never been to Indonesia.
1001
00:50:57,747 --> 00:50:59,738
And I�m like taken
aback by this.
1002
00:50:59,739 --> 00:51:00,463
I cant believe it.
1003
00:51:00,627 --> 00:51:01,821
The guys the head
of the company
1004
00:51:02,067 --> 00:51:04,297
he�s never walked through
his own factories.
1005
00:51:04,467 --> 00:51:05,426
Oh you�ve got to go.
1006
00:51:05,427 --> 00:51:08,021
I cant go right now and
the rest of this year.
1007
00:51:08,307 --> 00:51:10,383
When we were done
filming he calls me up
1008
00:51:10,384 --> 00:51:12,459
a couple of weeks
later and he goes
1009
00:51:12,627 --> 00:51:17,655
I may have a chance to go
there with you to the factories.
1010
00:51:17,707 --> 00:51:23,703
I�m going to the Australian
Open to watch some tennis.
1011
00:51:23,907 --> 00:51:28,378
and uh you know
maybe I can get up there
1012
00:51:28,707 --> 00:51:31,505
or at least
you can go there.
1013
00:51:31,507 --> 00:51:36,422
Would you like to go
to the Australian open?
1014
00:51:36,423 --> 00:51:37,535
For 21years
1015
00:51:37,747 --> 00:51:40,420
I never gave a thought
to what we were taking
1016
00:51:40,627 --> 00:51:43,699
from the earth or
doing to the earth
1017
00:51:43,867 --> 00:51:45,778
in the making
of our products.
1018
00:51:45,787 --> 00:51:49,146
And then
in the summer of 1994
1019
00:51:49,147 --> 00:51:51,263
we began to hear questions
from our customers
1020
00:51:51,547 --> 00:51:52,866
we had never
heard before
1021
00:51:52,987 --> 00:51:55,945
What�s your company doing
for the environment?
1022
00:51:55,946 --> 00:51:57,266
And we didn�t have answers.
1023
00:51:57,787 --> 00:52:00,096
The real answer
was not very much.
1024
00:52:00,147 --> 00:52:02,820
And it really disturbed
many of our people
1025
00:52:02,867 --> 00:52:05,146
not me so
much as them
1026
00:52:05,147 --> 00:52:07,103
and a group in our
research department
1027
00:52:07,547 --> 00:52:10,778
decided to convene
a taskforce
1028
00:52:10,907 --> 00:52:13,626
and bring people from our
businesses around the world
1029
00:52:13,707 --> 00:52:15,146
to come together
to assess
1030
00:52:15,147 --> 00:52:17,741
our company�s world wide
environment position
1031
00:52:18,027 --> 00:52:20,906
to begin to frame answers
for those customers.
1032
00:52:20,907 --> 00:52:23,705
They asked me if I would come
and speak to that group
1033
00:52:24,267 --> 00:52:25,706
and give them
a kick off speech
1034
00:52:25,707 --> 00:52:30,178
and launch this new task force
with an environmental vision
1035
00:52:30,179 --> 00:52:33,258
and I didn�t have
an environmental vision
1036
00:52:33,387 --> 00:52:36,584
and I did not want
to make that speech.
1037
00:52:36,747 --> 00:52:39,261
And at sort of
the propitious moment
1038
00:52:39,627 --> 00:52:41,504
this book
landed on my desk.
1039
00:52:41,547 --> 00:52:44,786
It was Paul Hawkins book
The Ecology of Commerce
1040
00:52:44,787 --> 00:52:48,026
and I began to read The
Ecology of Commerce,
1041
00:52:48,267 --> 00:52:50,497
really desperate
for inspiration
1042
00:52:50,667 --> 00:52:53,420
and very quickly
into that book
1043
00:52:53,547 --> 00:52:56,906
I found the phrase
The death of birth.
1044
00:52:56,907 --> 00:53:00,695
It was E. O. Wilson�s expression
for species extinction
1045
00:53:00,867 --> 00:53:02,786
The death of birth
1046
00:53:02,787 --> 00:53:06,416
and it was a point
of a spear into my chest
1047
00:53:06,627 --> 00:53:08,982
and I read on and
the spear went deeper
1048
00:53:08,983 --> 00:53:11,338
and it became an
epiphanal experience
1049
00:53:11,907 --> 00:53:14,375
a total change
of mindset for myself
1050
00:53:14,376 --> 00:53:18,061
and a change of paradigm.
1051
00:53:21,867 --> 00:53:23,903
Can any product be
made sustainably?
1052
00:53:24,147 --> 00:53:26,820
Well not any
and every product.
1053
00:53:27,027 --> 00:53:29,666
Can you make
landmines sustainably?
1054
00:53:29,907 --> 00:53:32,306
Well I don�t think so.
1055
00:53:32,307 --> 00:53:35,458
There�s a more fundamental
question than that
1056
00:53:35,587 --> 00:53:36,986
about landmines.
1057
00:53:37,027 --> 00:53:39,063
Some products ought
not to be made at all.
1058
00:53:39,427 --> 00:53:43,265
Unless we can make carpets
sustainably you know
1059
00:53:43,266 --> 00:53:47,103
perhaps we don�t have a place
in a sustainable world
1060
00:53:47,587 --> 00:53:53,105
but neither does anybody else
making products unsustainably.
1061
00:53:53,106 --> 00:53:58,021
One day early in this journey
it dawned on me that
1062
00:53:58,147 --> 00:54:00,502
the way Id been
running interface
1063
00:54:00,547 --> 00:54:02,139
is the way
of the plunderer
1064
00:54:02,467 --> 00:54:05,823
plundering something
that�s not mine
1065
00:54:05,827 --> 00:54:09,900
something that belongs
to every creature on earth
1066
00:54:10,147 --> 00:54:11,546
and I said to myself
1067
00:54:11,587 --> 00:54:13,020
my goodness
1068
00:54:13,027 --> 00:54:16,417
the day must come
when this is illegal
1069
00:54:16,418 --> 00:54:19,220
when plundering
is not allowed
1070
00:54:19,747 --> 00:54:20,706
it must come.
1071
00:54:20,707 --> 00:54:23,904
So I said to
myself my goodness
1072
00:54:23,987 --> 00:54:27,184
some day people like
me will end up in jail.
1073
00:54:35,947 --> 00:54:37,903
I�ve got to be
honest with you.
1074
00:54:38,267 --> 00:54:40,906
When the September 11th
situation happened
1075
00:54:40,907 --> 00:54:43,977
I didn�t know that
the and I must say
1076
00:54:44,027 --> 00:54:46,985
and I want to say
this because its
1077
00:54:47,387 --> 00:54:50,185
I don�t want
to take it lightly
1078
00:54:50,267 --> 00:54:51,905
it's not a light
situation.
1079
00:54:52,187 --> 00:54:54,781
It's a devastating act.
1080
00:54:54,782 --> 00:54:57,376
It was really a bad thing
1081
00:54:57,947 --> 00:54:58,906
it's one of
the worse things
1082
00:54:58,907 --> 00:55:01,296
I�ve seen in my
lifetime you know.
1083
00:55:01,307 --> 00:55:03,616
But l will tell you and every
trader will tell you
1084
00:55:03,707 --> 00:55:05,857
who was not in
that building
1085
00:55:06,107 --> 00:55:09,463
and who was buying gold
and who owned gold and silver
1086
00:55:09,467 --> 00:55:11,185
that when it happened
1087
00:55:11,387 --> 00:55:13,298
the first thing
you thought about was
1088
00:55:13,307 --> 00:55:15,901
well how much is gold up?
1089
00:55:16,187 --> 00:55:18,482
The first thing
that came to mind was
1090
00:55:18,483 --> 00:55:20,778
my god gold must
be exploding.
1091
00:55:20,987 --> 00:55:24,536
Fortunately for us all
our clients were in gold.
1092
00:55:24,827 --> 00:55:28,103
So when it went up they
all doubled their money.
1093
00:55:28,187 --> 00:55:30,541
They�ve all doubled
their money.
1094
00:55:30,542 --> 00:55:32,896
It was a blessing
in disguise.
1095
00:55:32,947 --> 00:55:38,180
Devastating you know
crushing heart shattering
1096
00:55:38,707 --> 00:55:40,146
but on the
financial sense
1097
00:55:40,147 --> 00:55:41,785
for my clients that
were in the market
1098
00:55:42,067 --> 00:55:43,506
they all made money.
1099
00:55:43,507 --> 00:55:46,499
Now I wasn�t looking
for this type of help
1100
00:55:46,867 --> 00:55:50,226
but it happened.
1101
00:55:50,227 --> 00:55:55,062
When the us bombed
Iraq back in 1991
1102
00:55:55,507 --> 00:56:00,820
the price of oil went
from $ 13 to $40 a barrel
1103
00:56:00,821 --> 00:56:02,186
for Christ sake!
1104
00:56:02,227 --> 00:56:03,785
Now we couldn�t wait
for the bombs
1105
00:56:04,147 --> 00:56:05,819
to start raining down
on Saddam Hussein.
1106
00:56:11,347 --> 00:56:12,302
We were all excited.
1107
00:56:12,787 --> 00:56:15,381
We wanted Saddam to
really create problems
1108
00:56:15,382 --> 00:56:16,540
Do whatever you
have to do
1109
00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:18,106
set fire to some
more oil wells
1110
00:56:18,547 --> 00:56:20,777
because the price is
going to go higher.
1111
00:56:20,778 --> 00:56:21,502
Every broker was
chanting that
1112
00:56:21,907 --> 00:56:23,306
there was not a broker
that I know of
1113
00:56:23,347 --> 00:56:27,898
that wasn�t
excited about that.
1114
00:56:28,147 --> 00:56:29,106
This was a disaster.
1115
00:56:29,107 --> 00:56:30,142
This was something
that was you know
1116
00:56:30,547 --> 00:56:31,641
catastrophe happening.
1117
00:56:31,642 --> 00:56:32,735
Bombing wars
1118
00:56:35,347 --> 00:56:37,622
In devastation there
is opportunity.
1119
00:56:42,667 --> 00:56:44,658
The pursuit of profit
is an old story
1120
00:56:45,067 --> 00:56:47,262
but there was a time when
many things were regarded
1121
00:56:47,467 --> 00:56:51,062
either as too sacred or too
essential for the public good
1122
00:56:51,063 --> 00:56:53,705
to be considered business
opportunities.
1123
00:56:54,187 --> 00:56:55,620
They were protected
by tradition
1124
00:56:55,627 --> 00:56:56,855
and public regulation.
1125
00:57:04,747 --> 00:57:08,137
We can really begin to take
a look at the emergence
1126
00:57:08,138 --> 00:57:10,337
of the modern age with
the enclosure movements
1127
00:57:10,507 --> 00:57:12,623
of the great European
commons in the fourteenth
1128
00:57:12,907 --> 00:57:14,704
fifteenth and
sixteenth century.
1129
00:57:14,827 --> 00:57:18,137
Medieval life uh was
a collectively lived life
1130
00:57:18,187 --> 00:57:20,417
It was a brutish
nasty affair.
1131
00:57:20,587 --> 00:57:22,817
But there was a collective
responsibility
1132
00:57:22,987 --> 00:57:24,583
People belonged to the land;
1133
00:57:24,584 --> 00:57:26,179
the land did not belong
to the people.
1134
00:57:26,347 --> 00:57:28,497
And in this
European world
1135
00:57:28,747 --> 00:57:31,022
people farmed the land
in a collective way
1136
00:57:31,147 --> 00:57:32,705
because they saw
it as a commons.
1137
00:57:32,706 --> 00:57:33,781
It belonged to God.
1138
00:57:34,027 --> 00:57:36,905
And then it was
administered by the church
1139
00:57:36,907 --> 00:57:38,181
the aristocracy
1140
00:57:38,347 --> 00:57:42,738
and then the local manors
as stewards of gods creation.
1141
00:57:42,739 --> 00:57:44,100
Beginning with Tudor England
1142
00:57:44,587 --> 00:57:46,020
we began to see
a phenomenon emerge
1143
00:57:46,027 --> 00:57:48,905
and that is the enclosure
of the great commons
1144
00:57:48,906 --> 00:57:50,095
by Parliamentary
Acts in England
1145
00:57:50,307 --> 00:57:51,266
and then in Europe.
1146
00:57:51,267 --> 00:57:53,986
And so first we began to
take the great landmasses
1147
00:57:54,147 --> 00:57:54,897
of the world
1148
00:57:55,107 --> 00:57:56,546
which were
commons and shared
1149
00:57:56,547 --> 00:57:58,617
and we reduced those
to private property.
1150
00:57:58,947 --> 00:58:01,541
Then we went after the oceans
the great oceanic commons
1151
00:58:01,827 --> 00:58:04,182
and we created laws
and regulations
1152
00:58:04,227 --> 00:58:05,186
that would allow countries
1153
00:58:05,187 --> 00:58:07,701
to claim a certain amount
of water outside
1154
00:58:08,067 --> 00:58:10,222
their coastal limits
for exploitation.
1155
00:58:10,223 --> 00:58:12,378
In this century we
went after the air
1156
00:58:12,387 --> 00:58:14,025
and we divided it
into air corridors
1157
00:58:14,147 --> 00:58:15,580
that could be bought
and sold
1158
00:58:16,067 --> 00:58:18,005
for commercial traffic
for airplanes.
1159
00:58:18,006 --> 00:58:19,943
And then of course
the rest is history.
1160
00:58:31,427 --> 00:58:35,102
With deregulation
privatization free trade
1161
00:58:35,267 --> 00:58:39,897
what we're seeing is
yet another enclosure
1162
00:58:40,067 --> 00:58:44,618
and if you like private
taking of the commons.
1163
00:58:44,619 --> 00:58:46,025
One of the things I find
very interesting
1164
00:58:46,307 --> 00:58:48,025
in our current debates
1165
00:58:48,227 --> 00:58:51,106
is this concept
of who creates wealth.
1166
00:58:51,107 --> 00:58:55,623
That wealth is only created
when it's owned privately.
1167
00:58:55,907 --> 00:58:58,705
What would you call
clean water fresh air
1168
00:58:58,787 --> 00:59:00,186
a safe environment?
1169
00:59:00,227 --> 00:59:02,297
Are they not
a form of wealth?
1170
00:59:02,627 --> 00:59:05,937
And why does it only become
wealth when some entity
1171
00:59:05,987 --> 00:59:09,696
puts a fence around it and
declares it private property?
1172
00:59:09,827 --> 00:59:11,943
Well you know that�s
not wealth creation.
1173
00:59:12,227 --> 00:59:14,104
That�s wealth usurpation.
1174
00:59:15,587 --> 00:59:16,383
Over the centuries
1175
00:59:16,547 --> 00:59:19,061
we have put more and more
things in that public realm
1176
00:59:19,427 --> 00:59:20,746
and lately just lately
1177
00:59:20,867 --> 00:59:21,777
in the last
1178
00:59:21,827 --> 00:59:22,862
lets say in the last
three or four decades
1179
00:59:22,863 --> 00:59:24,266
started pulling
them out again.
1180
00:59:24,707 --> 00:59:26,459
So fire-fighters
for instance.
1181
00:59:30,427 --> 00:59:32,577
Fire-fighters started
as private companies
1182
00:59:38,227 --> 00:59:39,706
and if you didn�t
have the medallion
1183
00:59:39,707 --> 00:59:41,816
of a given
fire-fighter brigade
1184
00:59:41,907 --> 00:59:43,898
on your house and
it was on fire
1185
00:59:44,307 --> 00:59:46,582
those fire-fighters
would just ride on by
1186
00:59:46,707 --> 00:59:48,982
because you didn�t
have a deal.
1187
00:59:49,107 --> 00:59:51,906
Well it gradually
evolved a public trust
1188
00:59:51,907 --> 00:59:56,264
for the provision of safety
on that very specific level.
1189
00:59:56,707 --> 00:59:59,380
This is important.
1190
00:59:59,587 --> 01:00:01,986
We should not go back
from that and start saying
1191
01:00:01,987 --> 01:00:04,023
well you know why don�t we
put that back in the market
1192
01:00:04,387 --> 01:00:05,263
and see what that does?
1193
01:00:05,307 --> 01:00:08,219
Maybe it will make
it more efficient
1194
01:00:15,867 --> 01:00:19,746
Privatization does not mean
you take a public institution
1195
01:00:19,747 --> 01:00:24,144
and give it
to some nice person.
1196
01:00:24,507 --> 01:00:26,816
It means you take a public
institution and give it
1197
01:00:26,907 --> 01:00:28,863
to an unaccountable tyranny.
1198
01:00:33,627 --> 01:00:37,142
Public institutions
have many side benefits
1199
01:00:37,143 --> 01:00:39,740
For one thing they may
purposely run at a loss.
1200
01:00:39,867 --> 01:00:41,903
They're not
out for profit.
1201
01:00:42,267 --> 01:00:44,019
They may purposely
run at a loss
1202
01:00:44,187 --> 01:00:45,905
because of the
side benefits.
1203
01:00:46,107 --> 01:00:50,020
So for example if a public
steel industry runs at a loss
1204
01:00:50,021 --> 01:00:52,859
it's providing cheap
steel to other industries
1205
01:00:52,860 --> 01:00:56,376
maybe that�s a good thing.
1206
01:00:56,667 --> 01:00:59,625
Public institutions can have
a counter cyclic property
1207
01:01:00,027 --> 01:01:03,178
So that means that they can
maintain employment
1208
01:01:03,179 --> 01:01:04,863
in periods of recession
1209
01:01:05,307 --> 01:01:06,546
which increases demand
1210
01:01:06,547 --> 01:01:08,856
which helps you
get out of recession.
1211
01:01:08,867 --> 01:01:11,256
Private companies cant
do that in a recession
1212
01:01:11,747 --> 01:01:15,137
throw out the work force cause
that�s the way you make money.
1213
01:01:15,138 --> 01:01:17,262
There are those who intend
that one day everything
1214
01:01:17,347 --> 01:01:19,463
will be owned by somebody
1215
01:01:19,747 --> 01:01:22,146
and we're not just
talking goods here.
1216
01:01:22,147 --> 01:01:25,219
We're talking human
rights human services
1217
01:01:25,507 --> 01:01:27,426
essential services for life.
1218
01:01:27,427 --> 01:01:30,339
Education public health
social assistance
1219
01:01:30,340 --> 01:01:33,663
pensions housing.
1220
01:01:34,147 --> 01:01:39,824
We're also talking about
the survival of the planet.
1221
01:01:39,907 --> 01:01:43,582
The areas that we believe
must be maintained
1222
01:01:43,747 --> 01:01:44,706
in the commons
1223
01:01:44,707 --> 01:01:48,063
or under common control
or we will collectively die
1224
01:01:48,067 --> 01:01:50,740
Water and air.
1225
01:01:50,947 --> 01:01:54,257
Even in the case of air
there�s been some progress
1226
01:01:54,307 --> 01:01:57,743
and that is the trading
of pollution permits.
1227
01:01:57,744 --> 01:01:59,020
And here the idea
is to say
1228
01:01:59,107 --> 01:02:02,179
look we cant avoid
the dumping of carbon dioxide.
1229
01:02:02,467 --> 01:02:05,106
We cant avoid the dumping
of sulphur oxides
1230
01:02:05,307 --> 01:02:07,104
at least we cant at the moment
afford to stopping it
1231
01:02:07,227 --> 01:02:09,616
so we're dumping a certain
amount of stuff
1232
01:02:09,627 --> 01:02:10,343
into the environment.
1233
01:02:10,587 --> 01:02:13,659
So we're going to say
with the current tonnage
1234
01:02:13,947 --> 01:02:16,745
of sulphur oxides
for example
1235
01:02:16,746 --> 01:02:19,544
we will say
that is the limit.
1236
01:02:19,707 --> 01:02:22,301
And well create
permits for that amount
1237
01:02:22,587 --> 01:02:25,306
and give them to the people
who�ve been doing the polluting
1238
01:02:25,467 --> 01:02:28,584
and now we will permit
them to be traded.
1239
01:02:28,585 --> 01:02:30,941
And so now there�s
a price attached
1240
01:02:31,227 --> 01:02:34,586
to polluting the environment.
1241
01:02:34,587 --> 01:02:36,339
Now wouldn�t it be marvellous
if we have one of those prices
1242
01:02:36,507 --> 01:02:38,225
for everything?
1243
01:02:39,387 --> 01:02:41,264
It sounds like you�re
advocating private ownership
1244
01:02:41,307 --> 01:02:42,979
of every square
inch of the planet.
1245
01:02:43,227 --> 01:02:44,023
Absolutely.
1246
01:02:44,187 --> 01:02:47,184
Every cubic foot
of air water.
1247
01:02:47,185 --> 01:02:50,181
It sounds outlandish to say
1248
01:02:50,427 --> 01:02:52,179
we want to have the
whole universe
1249
01:02:52,347 --> 01:02:53,700
the whole of
the earth owned.
1250
01:02:53,787 --> 01:02:56,381
That doesn�t mean I
want to have Joe Bloggs
1251
01:02:56,667 --> 01:02:58,464
owning this square foot.
1252
01:02:58,587 --> 01:03:03,615
But it means the interests that
are involved in that stream
1253
01:03:03,616 --> 01:03:06,618
are owned by some group
1254
01:03:06,747 --> 01:03:09,341
or by some people who have
an interest in maintaining it.
1255
01:03:09,627 --> 01:03:13,024
And that you know that
is not such a loony idea.
1256
01:03:13,025 --> 01:03:16,421
It's in fact the solution
to a lot of these problems.
1257
01:03:28,107 --> 01:03:29,859
Imagine a world in
which one of the things
1258
01:03:30,027 --> 01:03:33,144
owned by a corporation was
the song happy birthday.
1259
01:03:35,307 --> 01:03:36,262
In fact
1260
01:03:36,267 --> 01:03:38,781
an Aol/Time Warner subsidiary
holds the copyright.
1261
01:03:41,907 --> 01:03:43,056
In the past
1262
01:03:43,347 --> 01:03:45,066
it has demanded
over $ 10000
1263
01:03:45,067 --> 01:03:47,376
to allow you to hear anyone
sing this popular song
1264
01:03:47,467 --> 01:03:50,425
in a film.
1265
01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:52,499
We didn�t pay.
1266
01:03:56,067 --> 01:03:58,262
We preferred to use the money
to fly our crew to Boston
1267
01:03:58,427 --> 01:04:01,180
and Los Angeles to bring
you the following story
1268
01:04:13,307 --> 01:04:15,298
Comparing the marketing
of yesteryear
1269
01:04:15,299 --> 01:04:17,058
to the marketing of today
1270
01:04:17,067 --> 01:04:21,265
is like comparing
a b. b. gun to a smart bomb.
1271
01:04:21,387 --> 01:04:24,424
It's not the same
as when I was a kid
1272
01:04:24,747 --> 01:04:26,186
or even when the people
1273
01:04:26,187 --> 01:04:28,382
who are young adults
today were kids.
1274
01:04:31,747 --> 01:04:35,865
It's much more sophisticated
and it's much more pervasive.
1275
01:04:36,347 --> 01:04:42,741
It's not that products
themselves are bad or good.
1276
01:04:42,907 --> 01:04:46,456
It's the notion of
manipulating children
1277
01:04:46,457 --> 01:04:49,179
into buying the products.
1278
01:04:51,067 --> 01:04:53,661
In 1998 Western
International Media
1279
01:04:53,947 --> 01:04:56,825
Century City and Lieberman
Research Worldwide
1280
01:04:56,827 --> 01:05:00,536
conducted a study on nagging.
1281
01:05:00,667 --> 01:05:03,181
We asked parents to keep
a diary for three weeks
1282
01:05:03,182 --> 01:05:04,739
and to record every time
1283
01:05:04,987 --> 01:05:05,942
you could imagine
1284
01:05:05,947 --> 01:05:09,906
every time their child nagged
them for a product
1285
01:05:10,267 --> 01:05:13,737
we asked them to record
when where and why.
1286
01:05:18,307 --> 01:05:23,859
This study was not to
help parents cope with nagging.
1287
01:05:24,027 --> 01:05:27,656
It was to help corporations
help children nag
1288
01:05:27,747 --> 01:05:30,625
for their products
more effectively.
1289
01:05:32,427 --> 01:05:35,658
Anywhere form 20 percent
to 40 percent of purchases
1290
01:05:35,787 --> 01:05:37,226
would not have occurred
1291
01:05:37,227 --> 01:05:39,218
unless the child had
nagged their parents.
1292
01:05:39,627 --> 01:05:41,936
That is we
found for example
1293
01:05:42,027 --> 01:05:44,426
a quarter of all visits
to theme parks
1294
01:05:44,427 --> 01:05:47,385
wouldn�t have occurred unless
a child nagged their parents.
1295
01:05:47,787 --> 01:05:50,176
Four out of ten visits
to places like Chuck E. Cheese
1296
01:05:50,187 --> 01:05:52,018
would not have occurred.
1297
01:05:52,107 --> 01:05:53,017
And any parent would
understand that
1298
01:05:53,067 --> 01:05:54,420
you know when I
think of Chuck E. Cheese
1299
01:05:54,507 --> 01:05:55,906
oh my goodness
its noise.
1300
01:05:59,307 --> 01:06:00,217
And there�s
so many kids.
1301
01:06:00,267 --> 01:06:01,495
Why would I want to
spend two hours there?
1302
01:06:01,707 --> 01:06:04,540
But if the child nags
enough you 're going to go
1303
01:06:04,587 --> 01:06:07,420
We saw the same thing with
movies with home video
1304
01:06:07,467 --> 01:06:09,105
with fast food...
1305
01:06:09,387 --> 01:06:10,786
We do have to break
through this barrier
1306
01:06:10,827 --> 01:06:13,978
where they do tell us
or they say
1307
01:06:14,187 --> 01:06:16,781
they don�t like it
when their kid snag.
1308
01:06:17,067 --> 01:06:20,264
Well that�s just a general
attitude that they possess.
1309
01:06:20,265 --> 01:06:23,826
It doesn�t mean that they
necessarily act upon it
1310
01:06:24,267 --> 01:06:26,383
a 100 percent of the time.
1311
01:06:28,107 --> 01:06:32,544
You can manipulate
consumers into wanting
1312
01:06:32,907 --> 01:06:35,262
and therefore buying
your products.
1313
01:06:35,307 --> 01:06:38,026
It's a game.
1314
01:06:39,147 --> 01:06:40,862
Children are
not little adults;
1315
01:06:40,863 --> 01:06:42,578
their minds
aren�t developed.
1316
01:06:42,987 --> 01:06:44,705
And what�s happening is that
the marketers are playing
1317
01:06:44,907 --> 01:06:47,182
to their developmental
vulnerabilities.
1318
01:06:50,187 --> 01:06:53,224
The advertising that
children are exposed to today
1319
01:06:53,225 --> 01:06:56,025
is honed by psychologists;
1320
01:06:56,347 --> 01:06:58,266
it's enhanced by
media technology
1321
01:06:58,267 --> 01:07:00,417
that nobody ever
thought was possible.
1322
01:07:00,667 --> 01:07:04,865
The more insight you have
about the consumer
1323
01:07:04,987 --> 01:07:09,538
the more creative you�ll be in
your communication strategies.
1324
01:07:09,627 --> 01:07:11,379
So if that takes
a psychologist
1325
01:07:11,547 --> 01:07:14,698
yeah we want one
of those on staff.
1326
01:07:14,907 --> 01:07:18,343
I�m not saying it's wrong
to make things for children.
1327
01:07:18,344 --> 01:07:20,064
I also think its
important to distinguish
1328
01:07:20,187 --> 01:07:23,577
between psychologists who
work on products for children
1329
01:07:24,027 --> 01:07:28,020
to help you know toy
corporations make toys
1330
01:07:28,021 --> 01:07:29,380
that are developmentally
appropriate.
1331
01:07:29,381 --> 01:07:30,342
I think that�s great
1332
01:07:30,747 --> 01:07:32,499
that�s different
from selling the toys
1333
01:07:32,667 --> 01:07:34,144
directly to the children.
1334
01:07:34,145 --> 01:07:35,622
Initiative is huge.
1335
01:07:36,027 --> 01:07:38,385
I think in
the U. S. we place
1336
01:07:38,386 --> 01:07:40,743
about $ 12 billion
of media time.
1337
01:07:40,827 --> 01:07:43,102
So well put it on TV
well put it in print
1338
01:07:43,227 --> 01:07:46,378
well put it up in outdoor
well buy radio time;
1339
01:07:46,587 --> 01:07:50,546
so we're the biggest buyers of
advertising time and space
1340
01:07:50,547 --> 01:07:53,578
in the U. S.
and in the world.
1341
01:07:53,787 --> 01:07:57,336
One family cannot combat
an industry that spends
1342
01:07:57,427 --> 01:08:00,499
$ 12 billion a year trying
to get their children.
1343
01:08:00,787 --> 01:08:02,618
They cant do it.
1344
01:08:02,707 --> 01:08:05,106
They are tomorrows
adult consumers
1345
01:08:05,107 --> 01:08:08,304
To start talking with them now
build that relationship
1346
01:08:08,467 --> 01:08:09,422
when they�re younger...
1347
01:08:09,427 --> 01:08:11,497
And you�ve got
them as an adult.
1348
01:08:14,227 --> 01:08:16,821
Somebody asked me you
know Lucy is that ethical?
1349
01:08:17,107 --> 01:08:19,416
You know you�re essentially
manipulating these children.
1350
01:08:19,507 --> 01:08:21,338
Well yeah
is it ethical?
1351
01:08:21,427 --> 01:08:22,177
I don�t know.
1352
01:08:22,387 --> 01:08:26,505
But our role at initiative
is to move products
1353
01:08:26,707 --> 01:08:28,503
And if we know
you move products
1354
01:08:28,504 --> 01:08:30,299
with a certain
creative execution
1355
01:08:30,547 --> 01:08:32,777
placed in a certain
type of media vehicle
1356
01:08:32,778 --> 01:08:34,059
then we�ve
done our job.
1357
01:08:36,547 --> 01:08:39,539
Every institution
provides the people
1358
01:08:39,867 --> 01:08:42,461
who are members of it
1359
01:08:42,747 --> 01:08:45,500
with asocial
role to occupy
1360
01:08:45,627 --> 01:08:48,506
And typically institutions
that are vibrant
1361
01:08:48,507 --> 01:08:52,386
and have a lot of power
will specify that role
1362
01:08:52,827 --> 01:08:55,842
in some sense as
a list of virtues.
1363
01:08:55,843 --> 01:08:58,858
It's true for churches
for schools
1364
01:08:59,067 --> 01:09:02,218
for any institution that
has power over people
1365
01:09:02,219 --> 01:09:04,502
and shapes them.
1366
01:09:05,027 --> 01:09:05,986
The corporation likewise.
1367
01:09:05,987 --> 01:09:08,455
It provides us
with a list of virtues
1368
01:09:08,456 --> 01:09:09,422
a kind of social role
1369
01:09:09,827 --> 01:09:12,899
which is
the good consumer.
1370
01:09:13,187 --> 01:09:16,020
Like the waters
of the mighty ocean
1371
01:09:16,067 --> 01:09:17,986
people also represent
tremendous force
1372
01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:20,706
the understanding of which
is the greatest importance
1373
01:09:20,787 --> 01:09:23,142
to the American
way of life.
1374
01:09:23,627 --> 01:09:26,346
This force is known
as consumer power.
1375
01:09:27,947 --> 01:09:31,098
The goal for the corporations
is to maximize profit
1376
01:09:31,307 --> 01:09:33,138
and market share.
1377
01:09:33,227 --> 01:09:35,821
And they also have a goal
for their target
1378
01:09:35,822 --> 01:09:37,185
namely the population.
1379
01:09:37,547 --> 01:09:42,575
They have to be turned into
completely mindless consumers
1380
01:09:42,827 --> 01:09:45,546
of goods that
they do not want.
1381
01:09:45,547 --> 01:09:49,062
You have to develop what
are called created wants
1382
01:09:49,387 --> 01:09:51,776
So you have
to create wants.
1383
01:09:51,787 --> 01:09:53,379
You have to pose
on people what's called
1384
01:09:53,380 --> 01:09:55,695
a philosophy of futility.
1385
01:09:55,987 --> 01:09:58,137
You have to focus them
1386
01:09:58,387 --> 01:10:00,662
on the insignificant
things of life
1387
01:10:00,663 --> 01:10:02,937
like fashionable consumption.
1388
01:10:06,067 --> 01:10:09,139
I�m just basically quoting
business literature.
1389
01:10:09,427 --> 01:10:11,099
And it makes
perfect sense.
1390
01:10:11,347 --> 01:10:13,266
The ideal is to have
individuals
1391
01:10:13,267 --> 01:10:16,179
who are totally disassociated
from one another.
1392
01:10:16,627 --> 01:10:20,859
Who�s conception of
themselves the sense of value
1393
01:10:20,947 --> 01:10:24,576
is just how many created
wants can I satisfy?
1394
01:10:27,947 --> 01:10:30,177
These people are customers
1395
01:10:30,347 --> 01:10:34,260
because they are willing
to trade money for widgets.
1396
01:10:34,261 --> 01:10:37,145
And all the customers
take the widgets home
1397
01:10:37,146 --> 01:10:40,264
to all parts
of the country.
1398
01:10:40,427 --> 01:10:42,497
Look at all the money
the widget builder has
1399
01:10:42,827 --> 01:10:45,226
taken in from the sale
of his widgets.
1400
01:10:45,227 --> 01:10:48,458
We have huge industries
public relations industry
1401
01:10:48,587 --> 01:10:49,906
monstrous industry
1402
01:10:50,027 --> 01:10:52,905
advertising and so on
which are designed
1403
01:10:52,907 --> 01:10:57,298
from infancy to try
to mould people
1404
01:10:57,707 --> 01:10:59,857
into this desired pattern.
1405
01:11:03,947 --> 01:11:05,062
We saw
Tiger Woods on TV
1406
01:11:05,387 --> 01:11:07,662
with a hat
with a Nike logo on it
1407
01:11:07,787 --> 01:11:09,345
and we figured you know
he probably gets
1408
01:11:09,346 --> 01:11:10,740
like millions of dollars
1409
01:11:11,147 --> 01:11:12,586
just to wear the hat
on a press conference.
1410
01:11:12,587 --> 01:11:14,942
And therefore we figured we
can do that for someone else.
1411
01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:18,546
And hopefully get money in
time so we can go to school.
1412
01:11:18,547 --> 01:11:21,625
And that show we came up with
being corporately sponsored.
1413
01:11:21,707 --> 01:11:22,935
We made our sponsor
announcement
1414
01:11:23,147 --> 01:11:24,660
on the Today Show
on June 18
1415
01:11:24,867 --> 01:11:26,664
...were thrilled to be
sponsored by First U. S.A...
1416
01:11:26,787 --> 01:11:28,903
We're thrilled to be working with
first U. S.A as our corporate
1417
01:11:29,187 --> 01:11:32,384
sponsor and they�re covering
our college tuition...
1418
01:11:32,547 --> 01:11:33,741
...we found First U.S.A as our
sponsor and we're proud
1419
01:11:33,742 --> 01:11:34,576
to be working with them...
1420
01:11:34,947 --> 01:11:36,778
...our sponsor if First U. S.A
1421
01:11:36,867 --> 01:11:39,825
we're really thrilled
to announce First U.S.A
1422
01:11:39,826 --> 01:11:40,782
as our sponsor...
1423
01:11:41,187 --> 01:11:43,462
...we're thrilled to be
working with First U.S.A...
1424
01:11:43,587 --> 01:11:44,806
and so we give First U. S.A
1425
01:11:44,807 --> 01:11:45,986
a good name in the media
1426
01:11:45,987 --> 01:11:47,420
and include them
in our news stories
1427
01:11:47,907 --> 01:11:48,817
and through there
1428
01:11:48,867 --> 01:11:51,984
they get as much advertising
as we can give them.
1429
01:11:52,227 --> 01:11:53,186
They�ll be conforming
1430
01:11:53,187 --> 01:11:55,382
not to the wishes of
demanding parents
1431
01:11:55,587 --> 01:11:58,946
but to the wishes of an image
conscious corporation...
1432
01:11:58,947 --> 01:12:01,905
They�re not just out there for
the money and they�re just...
1433
01:12:02,307 --> 01:12:03,103
I mean they want
to work with us
1434
01:12:03,267 --> 01:12:05,986
and be our friends and let
us help them help us
1435
01:12:05,987 --> 01:12:06,782
and vice versa.
1436
01:12:07,107 --> 01:12:07,983
And we became
walking billboards
1437
01:12:08,067 --> 01:12:09,466
to pay for our
college tuition.
1438
01:12:10,947 --> 01:12:12,983
Cool Site of the day
picked us as a cool site
1439
01:12:13,347 --> 01:12:16,657
and Yahoo picked us and
we were in U.S.A Today.
1440
01:12:16,707 --> 01:12:19,426
When we did our photo
shoot for people magazine
1441
01:12:19,427 --> 01:12:24,059
This is where we
stood up on top.
1442
01:12:24,487 --> 01:12:26,205
We stood up here
and we smiled.
1443
01:12:26,407 --> 01:12:28,806
We smiled and
took the picture.
1444
01:12:28,807 --> 01:12:31,605
Our parents had war stories
and stuff to tell us.
1445
01:12:31,687 --> 01:12:33,120
We have our corporate
sponsor story.
1446
01:12:33,127 --> 01:12:34,765
Exactly.
1447
01:12:36,967 --> 01:12:38,446
I have a lot of faith
in the corporate world
1448
01:12:38,447 --> 01:12:39,635
because it's always
going to be there
1449
01:12:39,847 --> 01:12:41,041
so you may as well
have faith in it
1450
01:12:41,287 --> 01:12:43,881
because if you don�t
then it's just not good.
1451
01:12:45,287 --> 01:12:46,643
Some of the best
creative minds
1452
01:12:46,644 --> 01:12:47,999
are employed to
assure our faith
1453
01:12:48,167 --> 01:12:50,158
in the corporate
worldview.
1454
01:12:50,567 --> 01:12:53,365
They seduce us with corporate
beguiling illusions.
1455
01:12:53,447 --> 01:12:55,324
Designed to divert
our minds
1456
01:12:55,367 --> 01:12:57,403
and manufacture
our consent.
1457
01:13:05,247 --> 01:13:07,920
Corporations don�t advertise
products particularly;
1458
01:13:08,127 --> 01:13:09,196
they�re advertising
a way of life.
1459
01:13:09,197 --> 01:13:10,361
A way of thinking.
1460
01:13:10,527 --> 01:13:15,282
A story of who we are as people
and how we got here and
1461
01:13:15,327 --> 01:13:17,124
you know what�s the source
of our so called liberty
1462
01:13:17,247 --> 01:13:18,475
and so called freedom.
1463
01:13:18,687 --> 01:13:21,326
You know so you have decades
and decades and decades
1464
01:13:21,367 --> 01:13:23,198
of propaganda and
education
1465
01:13:23,207 --> 01:13:25,243
teaching us to think
in a certain way.
1466
01:13:25,567 --> 01:13:28,400
When applied to
the large corporation
1467
01:13:28,407 --> 01:13:30,875
it's that the corporation
is was inevitable
1468
01:13:31,127 --> 01:13:32,526
that it's indispensable
1469
01:13:32,567 --> 01:13:34,239
that it is somehow
remarkably efficient
1470
01:13:34,327 --> 01:13:38,115
and that it is responsible
for the sort of
1471
01:13:38,167 --> 01:13:40,158
for progress and
the good life.
1472
01:13:51,007 --> 01:13:53,885
Perception management is a
very interesting concept
1473
01:13:53,887 --> 01:13:56,082
It's basically a methodology
1474
01:13:56,287 --> 01:13:59,040
which helps us when
we work with our clients
1475
01:13:59,167 --> 01:14:03,160
to go through a very systematic
thoughtful process
1476
01:14:03,161 --> 01:14:06,044
in order to be able to
help our clients identify
1477
01:14:06,367 --> 01:14:08,483
what the resources are
that they have.
1478
01:14:08,647 --> 01:14:11,241
What the barriers to their
success are
1479
01:14:11,527 --> 01:14:12,966
and how we can use
communications
1480
01:14:12,967 --> 01:14:15,720
to help them accomplish
their objectives.
1481
01:14:25,927 --> 01:14:28,600
If Michael or Angelica came
tome and said
1482
01:14:28,807 --> 01:14:33,597
Dad what do you do
and why is it important?
1483
01:14:33,607 --> 01:14:35,802
My answer to that question
is basically
1484
01:14:36,007 --> 01:14:38,316
that I help corporations
have a voice.
1485
01:14:44,647 --> 01:14:46,683
And I help corporations
share the point of view
1486
01:14:46,684 --> 01:14:48,922
about how they
feel about things.
1487
01:14:53,287 --> 01:14:54,197
They�re selling
themselves
1488
01:14:54,247 --> 01:14:56,442
they�re selling
their domination
1489
01:14:56,647 --> 01:14:57,875
they�re selling
their rule
1490
01:14:58,087 --> 01:14:59,645
and they�re creating
an image for themselves
1491
01:14:59,646 --> 01:15:01,279
as just regular folks
down the block.
1492
01:15:03,527 --> 01:15:05,404
Hi how
y'all doing today?
1493
01:15:05,447 --> 01:15:07,366
Good to see you.
1494
01:15:07,367 --> 01:15:09,164
How are you doing today?
1495
01:15:09,287 --> 01:15:11,323
Hi how you
doing today?
1496
01:15:11,687 --> 01:15:12,961
We're from Pfizer.
1497
01:15:13,087 --> 01:15:13,963
We're your neighbours.
1498
01:15:14,047 --> 01:15:15,400
You're in the new houses?
1499
01:15:15,487 --> 01:15:17,478
Are you in the new houses?
1500
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:18,476
Ohhhhhh!
1501
01:15:18,847 --> 01:15:20,644
These are some neighbours.
1502
01:15:20,767 --> 01:15:22,678
Can we say hello?
1503
01:15:22,687 --> 01:15:24,405
Can we say hello
just for a minute?
1504
01:15:25,967 --> 01:15:27,639
So what do you think
of the neighbourhood now?
1505
01:15:27,887 --> 01:15:29,684
It's all right
it's good.
1506
01:15:29,807 --> 01:15:31,035
Yeah l think it�s been
getting better
1507
01:15:31,247 --> 01:15:33,841
over the last 20years
that I�ve been coming here.
1508
01:15:33,842 --> 01:15:34,602
Yeah
1509
01:15:34,607 --> 01:15:36,245
So I think together you
know working with you
1510
01:15:36,527 --> 01:15:38,757
and Pfizer and our
other partnership
1511
01:15:38,927 --> 01:15:40,645
well make this
a better place.
1512
01:15:40,847 --> 01:15:41,757
Okay.
1513
01:15:41,807 --> 01:15:44,162
Okay nice to see
you Miss Fraser bye.
1514
01:15:47,087 --> 01:15:49,476
There used to be a lot
of crime at this subway.
1515
01:15:49,477 --> 01:15:51,921
One night as I was going
home I got caught
1516
01:15:52,207 --> 01:15:55,404
and was almost mugged.
1517
01:15:55,567 --> 01:15:58,877
So we decided
to make a change
1518
01:15:58,927 --> 01:16:01,646
to make
this community better.
1519
01:16:05,047 --> 01:16:07,322
We're looking
at turnstiles
1520
01:16:07,447 --> 01:16:09,756
that prevent fare beating.
1521
01:16:09,847 --> 01:16:12,726
It used to be you could
just hop right over.
1522
01:16:12,727 --> 01:16:16,242
So Pfizer in collaboration
with the transit authority
1523
01:16:16,567 --> 01:16:19,445
actually purchased
these machines.
1524
01:16:25,047 --> 01:16:28,244
This is a talkback box
that allows us to speak
1525
01:16:28,407 --> 01:16:29,846
to the Pfizer guard
1526
01:16:29,847 --> 01:16:33,476
which is approximately
500yards from here.
1527
01:16:33,687 --> 01:16:35,325
Now I haven�t seen
the Pfizer guard today
1528
01:16:35,607 --> 01:16:36,960
but I�m going to see
if I can call him.
1529
01:16:37,047 --> 01:16:39,277
If he�s not I'll have
to go wake him up.
1530
01:16:39,447 --> 01:16:40,197
Hello.
1531
01:16:40,407 --> 01:16:41,283
Hello.
1532
01:16:41,367 --> 01:16:42,356
Tom Kline speaking.
1533
01:16:44,727 --> 01:16:46,957
So I'm sure
1534
01:16:47,127 --> 01:16:48,321
before we're through
hell call back.
1535
01:16:48,567 --> 01:16:50,000
But particularly
on the off-hours
1536
01:16:50,007 --> 01:16:53,966
this allows a passenger
to call directly
1537
01:16:53,967 --> 01:16:56,281
to the Pfizer
desk for assistance.
1538
01:16:56,727 --> 01:16:59,606
And then the Pfizer guard
calls the transit police
1539
01:16:59,607 --> 01:17:04,203
and the transit police respond
to any crime situation.
1540
01:17:04,407 --> 01:17:07,001
As a result of all this
crime is down in that station.
1541
01:17:07,002 --> 01:17:09,241
It's much safer for
our community partners.
1542
01:17:09,687 --> 01:17:10,597
Thank you.
1543
01:17:16,407 --> 01:17:17,601
I'll press the other button
just to be sure...
1544
01:17:25,047 --> 01:17:26,799
Well go over and
talk to him personally.
1545
01:17:34,847 --> 01:17:37,236
It's tough you know
they�re putting
1546
01:17:37,247 --> 01:17:39,442
some taxpayer shareholder
money into helping
1547
01:17:39,647 --> 01:17:41,558
and who can say?
1548
01:17:41,567 --> 01:17:43,364
But that money should be
going to the taxpayers
1549
01:17:43,487 --> 01:17:46,240
to decide what to do.
1550
01:17:46,367 --> 01:17:48,756
And while they�re doing
those sorts of nice things
1551
01:17:48,767 --> 01:17:51,679
they�re also playing a role in
lowering taxes for corporations
1552
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,558
and lowering taxes
for wealthy people
1553
01:17:54,047 --> 01:17:56,402
and reconfiguring
public policy.
1554
01:17:56,447 --> 01:17:58,597
And what we don�t see is all
that reconfiguring going on;
1555
01:17:58,847 --> 01:18:01,024
we don�t see all that
vacuuming up of money
1556
01:18:01,025 --> 01:18:03,201
vacuuming out the insides
of public processes
1557
01:18:03,202 --> 01:18:05,123
but we do see
the nice fa�ade.
1558
01:18:34,247 --> 01:18:36,166
When I was researching
the takeover of public space
1559
01:18:36,167 --> 01:18:39,318
when I started off I thought
okay this is just advertising.
1560
01:18:39,527 --> 01:18:41,242
We�ve always had advertising.
1561
01:18:41,243 --> 01:18:42,958
It's just more advertising.
1562
01:18:43,367 --> 01:18:44,595
But what l started
to understand
1563
01:18:44,807 --> 01:18:45,766
and what I
understand now
1564
01:18:45,767 --> 01:18:49,965
is that branding if not
advertising its production.
1565
01:18:50,087 --> 01:18:51,281
The very
successful corporations
1566
01:18:51,527 --> 01:18:54,360
the corporations of the future
do not produce products.
1567
01:18:54,407 --> 01:18:57,444
They produced
brand meaning.
1568
01:18:57,767 --> 01:18:59,962
The dissemination of
the idea of themselves
1569
01:19:00,167 --> 01:19:01,606
is their act of production.
1570
01:19:01,607 --> 01:19:03,598
And the dissemination of
the idea of themselves
1571
01:19:03,599 --> 01:19:07,964
is an enormously
invasive project
1572
01:19:08,327 --> 01:19:10,682
so how do you
make a brand idea?
1573
01:19:10,727 --> 01:19:14,322
Well a good place to
start is by building
1574
01:19:14,487 --> 01:19:16,284
a three dimensional
manifestation of your brand.
1575
01:19:16,407 --> 01:19:18,602
For accompany like Disney
1576
01:19:18,807 --> 01:19:20,684
it goes even further
1577
01:19:20,727 --> 01:19:22,763
where it's actually building
a town Celebration Florida.
1578
01:19:22,764 --> 01:19:24,524
Currently there are
about 5000 residents
1579
01:19:24,567 --> 01:19:26,523
who call Celebration home.
1580
01:19:26,967 --> 01:19:30,021
And there are about 1300
single-family homes
1581
01:19:30,022 --> 01:19:33,076
a town centre that�s a place
where people gather.
1582
01:19:33,207 --> 01:19:36,438
It has about four
or five restaurants
1583
01:19:36,567 --> 01:19:38,717
and about a dozen
other shops.
1584
01:19:39,927 --> 01:19:41,804
Their inspiration
their brand image
1585
01:19:42,327 --> 01:19:44,726
is the all American family.
1586
01:19:44,727 --> 01:19:46,922
And the sort of
by gone American town.
1587
01:20:06,807 --> 01:20:10,595
Their brand driver is family
magic and everything
1588
01:20:10,647 --> 01:20:15,596
that the company does is in
and around those two words.
1589
01:20:15,597 --> 01:20:17,563
If you take that
1590
01:20:17,847 --> 01:20:20,998
a branded environment
such as a Disney World
1591
01:20:21,207 --> 01:20:24,597
or a Disneyland is a logical
extension of that brand.
1592
01:20:24,598 --> 01:20:28,401
Film animated film
family oriented film;
1593
01:20:28,407 --> 01:20:31,160
it's a very logical
extension of that.
1594
01:20:31,287 --> 01:20:32,561
As a business though
1595
01:20:32,727 --> 01:20:35,321
they also know that
if they want to get
1596
01:20:35,607 --> 01:20:37,996
into other forms of
entertainment
1597
01:20:38,007 --> 01:20:40,601
that does not fit
family magic
1598
01:20:40,887 --> 01:20:43,345
they do not brand
it Disney.
1599
01:20:43,346 --> 01:20:45,803
If they want to get
into adult
1600
01:20:46,167 --> 01:20:48,086
more serious type fare
1601
01:20:48,087 --> 01:20:51,363
when it comes to film
they brand it Touchstone.
1602
01:20:51,447 --> 01:20:53,802
Disney brand
speaks of reassurance
1603
01:20:54,327 --> 01:20:56,966
it speaks of tradition
it speaks of quality.
1604
01:20:56,967 --> 01:20:58,319
And you can see that here
1605
01:20:58,647 --> 01:21:01,526
in this community
that we�ve built.
1606
01:21:01,527 --> 01:21:04,644
And that�s where you
see the truly imperialist
1607
01:21:04,687 --> 01:21:08,316
aspirations of branding
which is about building
1608
01:21:08,527 --> 01:21:10,995
these privatized
branded cocoons.
1609
01:21:11,407 --> 01:21:13,637
Which maybe you start
by shopping in
1610
01:21:13,807 --> 01:21:16,161
and then you continue
by holidaying in
1611
01:21:16,162 --> 01:21:18,516
but eventually why
not just move in.
1612
01:21:21,287 --> 01:21:23,403
What happens if we
wake up one day
1613
01:21:23,687 --> 01:21:26,724
and we find out that virtually
all of our relationships
1614
01:21:26,927 --> 01:21:29,395
that are mediated between
us and our fellow human beings
1615
01:21:29,396 --> 01:21:31,126
are commercial?
1616
01:21:31,127 --> 01:21:34,164
We find out that virtually
every relationship we have
1617
01:21:34,407 --> 01:21:36,443
is a commercially
arbitrated relationship
1618
01:21:36,807 --> 01:21:38,604
with our fellow human being?
1619
01:21:38,607 --> 01:21:41,917
Can civilization survive on
that narrow a definition
1620
01:21:41,918 --> 01:21:44,321
of how we interact
with each other?
1621
01:21:44,687 --> 01:21:46,757
Wow what a dream...
1622
01:21:52,007 --> 01:21:55,636
I can give you the day
in the life of a person
1623
01:21:55,847 --> 01:21:58,077
who might be the target
of undercover marketing.
1624
01:21:58,247 --> 01:21:59,362
And I will
tell you this
1625
01:21:59,687 --> 01:22:01,837
that some of these things
are happening right now
1626
01:22:01,838 --> 01:22:02,642
around you.
1627
01:22:03,047 --> 01:22:04,685
So you walk out of your
building in the morning
1628
01:22:04,686 --> 01:22:05,476
in some city
1629
01:22:05,927 --> 01:22:07,076
and you walk by
the doorman and say
1630
01:22:07,077 --> 01:22:07,956
hey good morning!
1631
01:22:08,327 --> 01:22:10,921
And you notice there�s a
bunch of boxes at his feet
1632
01:22:10,922 --> 01:22:13,446
from some on line
or mail order retailer.
1633
01:22:13,607 --> 01:22:15,677
And there�s a bunch of boxes
there with of course
1634
01:22:16,007 --> 01:22:17,235
big brand message on it.
1635
01:22:17,447 --> 01:22:18,846
You walk out
and wonder
1636
01:22:18,887 --> 01:22:20,639
a lot of people must be
ordering from that company.
1637
01:22:20,807 --> 01:22:23,275
Well what you don�t know is
that we paid the doorman
1638
01:22:23,276 --> 01:22:24,037
to keep those
empty boxes there.
1639
01:22:24,167 --> 01:22:26,006
You walk out
into the street
1640
01:22:26,007 --> 01:22:27,998
and you hear some people
having kind of a loud conversation
1641
01:22:28,407 --> 01:22:31,763
about a musical act
1642
01:22:31,767 --> 01:22:33,325
and they are passing
headphones back and forth
1643
01:22:33,326 --> 01:22:34,606
and going
this is great!
1644
01:22:36,567 --> 01:22:39,843
Hey do you know that I heard
this C D is really hard to find
1645
01:22:39,927 --> 01:22:45,160
but I heard they
sell it at store X.
1646
01:22:45,687 --> 01:22:47,006
You hear that and
you register it
1647
01:22:47,127 --> 01:22:48,563
and you might kind
of pick up on that
1648
01:22:48,564 --> 01:22:50,000
and may be later
on you�ll think
1649
01:22:50,367 --> 01:22:51,436
hey I wonder what the
hot act is bang
1650
01:22:51,437 --> 01:22:52,618
that might be in your head.
1651
01:22:52,619 --> 01:22:53,800
Now you get
into your office
1652
01:22:54,207 --> 01:22:56,801
and there�s a certain brand
of water in the refrigerator.
1653
01:22:57,087 --> 01:22:59,006
What is that?
1654
01:22:59,007 --> 01:23:00,918
You take it out you drink
you slug it down it's there
1655
01:23:00,927 --> 01:23:02,918
not really
thinking about it.
1656
01:23:03,327 --> 01:23:03,806
Wow!
1657
01:23:03,807 --> 01:23:05,525
That�s pretty good water.
1658
01:23:05,727 --> 01:23:07,046
Who knows?
1659
01:23:07,167 --> 01:23:08,486
Maybe someone placed
the water there
1660
01:23:08,607 --> 01:23:09,566
You kind of go out
for your lunch break
1661
01:23:09,567 --> 01:23:12,161
you�re sitting in the park and
people are kind of out there
1662
01:23:12,407 --> 01:23:13,556
talking in the
park and bang
1663
01:23:13,847 --> 01:23:14,996
all of a sudden you
hear another message.
1664
01:23:18,927 --> 01:23:20,804
By the time you go to bed
you've probably received
1665
01:23:20,847 --> 01:23:25,398
eight or nine different
undercover messages.
1666
01:23:25,527 --> 01:23:26,403
People are always thinking
1667
01:23:26,487 --> 01:23:27,761
well oh I know
product placement.
1668
01:23:27,927 --> 01:23:29,485
That�s when they
put stuff in movies!
1669
01:23:29,486 --> 01:23:30,766
Well yes kind of.
1670
01:23:30,807 --> 01:23:32,638
I mean that�s definitely
traditional product placement.
1671
01:23:32,727 --> 01:23:34,843
But real life product
placement is just that:
1672
01:23:35,127 --> 01:23:38,676
Placing stuff in movies but
the movie�s actually your life
1673
01:23:38,967 --> 01:23:41,356
Well take a group
of attainable
1674
01:23:41,367 --> 01:23:42,197
but still
inspirational people
1675
01:23:42,327 --> 01:23:43,237
they are not supermodels
1676
01:23:43,287 --> 01:23:45,482
they are kind of
people just like you
1677
01:23:45,483 --> 01:23:46,960
they�re doing
something for us
1678
01:23:47,367 --> 01:23:49,278
whether they are having
a certain kind of drink
1679
01:23:49,287 --> 01:23:50,606
or they are using
a certain laundry detergent
1680
01:23:50,727 --> 01:23:52,046
whatever it may be.
1681
01:23:52,167 --> 01:23:56,240
They are kind of the
roach motel if you will
1682
01:23:56,487 --> 01:23:58,000
People are going
to come over to them
1683
01:23:58,001 --> 01:23:59,280
and they are
going to give them
1684
01:23:59,281 --> 01:24:00,559
this little piece
of brand bait.
1685
01:24:00,807 --> 01:24:02,399
It could be a sound bite
of knowledge or a ritual.
1686
01:24:02,727 --> 01:24:05,321
Consumers will get that
piece of roach bait
1687
01:24:05,322 --> 01:24:06,242
then they
would take it.
1688
01:24:06,567 --> 01:24:07,366
Oh pretty cool!
1689
01:24:07,367 --> 01:24:09,961
Then they go out and
spread it to their friends.
1690
01:24:10,047 --> 01:24:11,082
If you want to be critical
1691
01:24:11,327 --> 01:24:12,282
if you want to go through
your life like that
1692
01:24:12,287 --> 01:24:13,402
sure be critical
of every single person
1693
01:24:13,527 --> 01:24:15,597
that walks up to you.
1694
01:24:15,727 --> 01:24:17,126
But if they are showing
you something that fits
1695
01:24:17,167 --> 01:24:18,316
and something that works
1696
01:24:18,607 --> 01:24:20,040
and something that makes
your life better in some way
1697
01:24:20,047 --> 01:24:21,446
well then who cares.
1698
01:24:21,487 --> 01:24:24,126
We again
just say thanks!
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