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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,068 --> 00:00:05,172 OK, OK. 2 00:00:05,275 --> 00:00:07,482 Bit more wrinkly than I'd have thought. 3 00:00:07,586 --> 00:00:09,068 Do I have to? 4 00:00:09,172 --> 00:00:12,482 It's not quite as bad as I thought it was going to be. 5 00:00:12,586 --> 00:00:14,275 Like maybe like a slug. 6 00:00:14,379 --> 00:00:16,689 Oh. Hmm. 7 00:00:18,827 --> 00:00:21,241 Narrator: I'm Laura Dodsworth and I'm an artist 8 00:00:21,344 --> 00:00:25,758 working on a project about our most intimate body part. 9 00:00:25,862 --> 00:00:28,551 In the past I've attracted controversy with my work 10 00:00:28,655 --> 00:00:31,724 by photographing and writing about penises and breasts, 11 00:00:31,827 --> 00:00:34,586 now I'm ready for the last taboo. 12 00:00:35,689 --> 00:00:37,862 I'm asking 100 women to get naked 13 00:00:37,965 --> 00:00:39,689 and talk about their vaginas 14 00:00:39,793 --> 00:00:41,586 and I'm going to take part too. 15 00:00:42,413 --> 00:00:44,068 I'm photographing their vulvas, 16 00:00:44,172 --> 00:00:45,896 that's the part on the outside 17 00:00:46,862 --> 00:00:48,241 and interviewing them 18 00:00:48,344 --> 00:00:50,551 about how their vaginas have shaped their lives. 19 00:00:51,862 --> 00:00:53,586 It's a part of ourselves that we don't talk about, 20 00:00:53,689 --> 00:00:56,379 understand or even look at. 21 00:00:56,482 --> 00:00:58,551 It's time to see what's really down there 22 00:00:58,655 --> 00:01:00,482 and how it defines us. 23 00:01:00,586 --> 00:01:01,862 Woman: Lady garden. 24 00:01:01,965 --> 00:01:02,896 Woman: Fanny. 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Woman: I say pussy. 26 00:01:04,103 --> 00:01:05,137 Woman: Pussy. Woman: Pussy. 27 00:01:05,241 --> 00:01:06,896 Woman: I like the word vagina. Woman: Vagina, vulva. 28 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,344 Woman: Vulva. Woman: Privates. 29 00:01:08,448 --> 00:01:10,068 Woman: Front bottom and possibly fanny. 30 00:01:10,172 --> 00:01:11,137 Woman: Fanny. 31 00:01:11,241 --> 00:01:12,931 Woman: Foo foos, la-las, and minis and things. 32 00:01:13,034 --> 00:01:14,137 Woman: Front door of happiness. 33 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:15,241 Woman: The rose cupcake. 34 00:01:15,344 --> 00:01:16,482 Woman: Cunt. Woman: Cunt. 35 00:01:16,586 --> 00:01:17,793 - I call it my beautiful cunt. 36 00:01:31,862 --> 00:01:35,551 - The vagina is such a magnificent thing, 37 00:01:35,655 --> 00:01:37,620 it does so many amazing things, 38 00:01:37,724 --> 00:01:41,724 including like giving birth to like a whole new people. 39 00:01:43,965 --> 00:01:46,206 - Growing up, I never looked at my vulva 40 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:49,448 because there was no need to, I just washed it. 41 00:01:49,551 --> 00:01:51,931 When I did eventually look at it, 42 00:01:52,034 --> 00:01:55,379 I really felt like a huge weight had been lifted from me. 43 00:01:56,551 --> 00:02:00,793 - There's still a lot of shame around the vagina, 44 00:02:00,896 --> 00:02:03,206 I think it starts in school, 45 00:02:03,310 --> 00:02:06,310 boys are taught about wet dreams and erections 46 00:02:06,413 --> 00:02:09,793 and the female equivalent is about periods. 47 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:12,448 We do bleed as well, 48 00:02:12,551 --> 00:02:16,275 but we also have the equivalent of an erection and a wet dream. 49 00:02:16,379 --> 00:02:20,137 - The penis is this really funny appendage at one end 50 00:02:20,241 --> 00:02:22,310 and very powerful and like dominating 51 00:02:22,413 --> 00:02:23,689 on the other end, 52 00:02:23,793 --> 00:02:26,034 but nobody wants to think about a vulva, 53 00:02:26,137 --> 00:02:28,758 no one wants to think about a vagina, it's like ugh, gross. 54 00:02:30,689 --> 00:02:32,724 When you tell me you're ready, I'll take the photograph. 55 00:02:32,827 --> 00:02:34,206 - Yes, ready. - Ready? OK. 56 00:02:34,310 --> 00:02:35,379 - Yeah. 57 00:02:38,068 --> 00:02:40,000 Narrator: As well as taking photos, 58 00:02:40,103 --> 00:02:42,448 I'm interviewing women about every aspect of their vaginas 59 00:02:42,551 --> 00:02:44,206 from pleasure to pain. 60 00:02:48,896 --> 00:02:50,517 That's alright. 61 00:02:52,448 --> 00:02:54,793 It's different seeing it like that, 62 00:02:54,896 --> 00:02:56,896 but it's fine. 63 00:02:59,827 --> 00:03:01,517 It's mine, it's fine. 64 00:03:05,551 --> 00:03:07,482 Woman: I wear my pubic hair au naturel. 65 00:03:07,586 --> 00:03:09,965 Woman: It's neat and tidy, I keep it reasonably short. 66 00:03:10,068 --> 00:03:11,896 Woman: I'm sporting a full-on Afro right now. 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,241 Woman: [laughs] Like bald. 68 00:03:13,344 --> 00:03:15,172 Woman: When you get the back and the sides shaved, you know, 69 00:03:15,275 --> 00:03:16,448 like level three trim. 70 00:03:16,551 --> 00:03:18,137 Woman: I've always liked pubic hair. 71 00:03:18,241 --> 00:03:19,482 Woman: It's there for a reason, 72 00:03:19,586 --> 00:03:20,862 it's there to keep bacteria out. 73 00:03:20,965 --> 00:03:23,275 - Usually I'm bald and I like that. 74 00:03:23,379 --> 00:03:26,206 I have a bald patch in the middle, 75 00:03:27,379 --> 00:03:29,103 because of my operation. 76 00:03:29,965 --> 00:03:31,758 You know, trim around it. 77 00:03:31,862 --> 00:03:34,413 I'm actually thinking about making it blonde one side. 78 00:03:34,517 --> 00:03:36,551 I literally have not done anything 79 00:03:36,655 --> 00:03:40,586 in terms of grooming to my vagina in maybe two years. 80 00:03:40,689 --> 00:03:43,655 Occasionally my boyfriend will help me 81 00:03:43,758 --> 00:03:47,000 when I ask him to with his clippers. 82 00:03:48,862 --> 00:03:51,689 Which involve me like screaming at him 83 00:03:51,793 --> 00:03:53,689 'cause I thought he was going to cut off my clit. 84 00:03:53,793 --> 00:03:55,586 But he did a really great job 85 00:03:55,689 --> 00:03:57,586 and he was very calm whilst he was doing it, he's like, 86 00:03:57,689 --> 00:03:59,724 "I'm just going under here now just so you know, 87 00:03:59,827 --> 00:04:01,000 "just, can you just like 88 00:04:01,103 --> 00:04:02,551 "spread them a little bit further apart." 89 00:04:02,655 --> 00:04:04,241 I'm like, "You're such a good guy," 90 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:07,103 but we tended to avoid that little grooming ritual 91 00:04:07,206 --> 00:04:09,862 just because it's too stressful for me. [chuckles] 92 00:04:13,896 --> 00:04:16,862 The clitoris, it's at the top I think, 93 00:04:16,965 --> 00:04:20,137 I feel a bit awkward answering this. 94 00:04:23,172 --> 00:04:25,482 Woman: It's not just the little bit that you see, 95 00:04:25,586 --> 00:04:29,379 it's a huge, great big elaborate creature. 96 00:04:30,793 --> 00:04:33,310 - If we knew more about the clitoris 97 00:04:33,413 --> 00:04:34,862 or talked more about it, 98 00:04:34,965 --> 00:04:36,620 like the fact that it's got 99 00:04:36,724 --> 00:04:40,310 50 times more nerve endings than the penis, 100 00:04:40,413 --> 00:04:42,793 it's a lovely, sensitive, 101 00:04:42,896 --> 00:04:45,689 powerful piece of our anatomy 102 00:04:45,793 --> 00:04:49,310 that is really misunderstood 103 00:04:49,413 --> 00:04:52,655 'cause you don't see visual representations of it. 104 00:04:52,758 --> 00:04:55,758 - It actually is pretty much the same size as a penis. 105 00:04:55,862 --> 00:04:58,482 There's obviously the little bulb, the little button, 106 00:04:58,586 --> 00:05:01,068 but then there are these kind of extended parts 107 00:05:01,172 --> 00:05:02,758 that go into the body 108 00:05:02,862 --> 00:05:05,517 so we don't see it, that's made of erectile tissue 109 00:05:05,620 --> 00:05:07,275 and when aroused, 110 00:05:07,379 --> 00:05:09,896 kind of engorges and grips the vaginal wall. 111 00:05:11,034 --> 00:05:12,724 Woman: There's a fear around the clitoris 112 00:05:12,827 --> 00:05:14,862 because most men don't know where to find it 113 00:05:14,965 --> 00:05:17,000 and if they do, they don't know what to do with it. 114 00:05:27,793 --> 00:05:31,827 - There is a lot of shame still around about vaginas 115 00:05:31,931 --> 00:05:33,275 and the slut stuff. 116 00:05:33,379 --> 00:05:37,344 "She has this messy cunt, it bleeds, 117 00:05:37,448 --> 00:05:39,275 "it isn't nice, 118 00:05:39,379 --> 00:05:41,379 "it must be kept under control 119 00:05:41,482 --> 00:05:44,000 "because also we know somewhere, 120 00:05:44,103 --> 00:05:46,275 "she can have a lot of pleasure 121 00:05:46,379 --> 00:05:48,379 "and we don't want women to have that." 122 00:05:48,482 --> 00:05:50,793 I love to wank 123 00:05:50,896 --> 00:05:52,620 and I always have 124 00:05:52,724 --> 00:05:56,137 and hopefully I always will until my dying day. 125 00:05:59,241 --> 00:06:01,793 Woman: My favourite time for masturbating 126 00:06:01,896 --> 00:06:03,310 is when I'm in the bath. 127 00:06:03,413 --> 00:06:05,172 Woman: I just have to feel completely relaxed 128 00:06:05,275 --> 00:06:07,862 and that's often just after I've changed my bed sheets 129 00:06:07,965 --> 00:06:09,379 so it smells clean... 130 00:06:09,482 --> 00:06:11,344 Woman: I like feeling the water all around my body 131 00:06:11,448 --> 00:06:13,931 and so my clitoris is kind of there for the taking. 132 00:06:14,034 --> 00:06:16,034 Woman: I prefer to masturbate first thing in the morning 133 00:06:16,137 --> 00:06:18,551 when I wake up or the evening before I go to sleep. 134 00:06:18,655 --> 00:06:22,137 Woman: Outside in the woods. The breeze, smell the flowers. 135 00:06:22,241 --> 00:06:24,000 Woman: I like to masturbate in my bed. 136 00:06:24,103 --> 00:06:25,793 Woman: In my bed, in my own space. 137 00:06:25,896 --> 00:06:27,551 Woman: Mid afternoon, sunshine, nice weather. 138 00:06:27,655 --> 00:06:29,758 Woman: Candles on or lights. 139 00:06:29,862 --> 00:06:31,103 Woman: Good ambience. 140 00:06:31,206 --> 00:06:32,379 Woman: Plumps itself up 141 00:06:32,482 --> 00:06:34,068 and is kind of like, "Come and play with me." 142 00:06:34,172 --> 00:06:35,896 Woman: The perfect way to start or finish your day, 143 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,931 sometimes twice a day. 144 00:06:42,655 --> 00:06:46,206 - I think there's a lot of shame attached to self-pleasure, 145 00:06:50,517 --> 00:06:51,586 but actually, 146 00:06:51,689 --> 00:06:53,689 if you don't understand what you like for yourself, 147 00:06:53,793 --> 00:06:55,758 how do you communicate that to a partner? 148 00:06:58,896 --> 00:07:00,689 - I want to be really frank with you 149 00:07:00,793 --> 00:07:02,482 because I really feel like even though 150 00:07:02,586 --> 00:07:04,896 I'm finding this really hard, I'm embarrassed by it 151 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,689 and I'm worried about who's going to see it, 152 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,000 at the same time, 153 00:07:08,103 --> 00:07:10,137 I feel like those feelings are wrong 154 00:07:10,241 --> 00:07:12,965 and that society's understanding 155 00:07:13,068 --> 00:07:17,034 of women and masturbating is wrong. 156 00:07:19,689 --> 00:07:21,482 Woman: The average orgasm for a woman 157 00:07:21,586 --> 00:07:24,000 is like up to 11 to 20 seconds, 158 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,482 men, it's like five or six seconds. 159 00:07:39,931 --> 00:07:41,965 [thunder rumbling] 160 00:07:42,068 --> 00:07:44,275 Woman: When it's on its way, 161 00:07:44,379 --> 00:07:48,689 it's kind of like you can hear the thunder in the distance 162 00:07:48,793 --> 00:07:52,689 and you know it's getting closer so it's not a surprise, 163 00:07:52,793 --> 00:07:54,551 I can feel it building. 164 00:07:55,827 --> 00:07:58,034 Woman: You get this sort of, it's almost like sparking 165 00:07:58,137 --> 00:08:02,379 and electricity like bouncing around. 166 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:05,655 Woman: All of these neurons and synapses 167 00:08:05,758 --> 00:08:08,517 making so many different connections 168 00:08:08,620 --> 00:08:12,103 and the vulva itself is the hub. 169 00:08:12,206 --> 00:08:13,862 Well, look at the smile as big as my face 170 00:08:13,965 --> 00:08:15,482 just talking about it. 171 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:19,586 Woman: I'm role-playing things in my head. 172 00:08:19,689 --> 00:08:23,000 Woman: My cunt goes slippery and slidey and juicy. 173 00:08:23,103 --> 00:08:27,413 Suddenly the cells will become on fire 174 00:08:27,517 --> 00:08:29,862 and I feel the run down through the body 175 00:08:29,965 --> 00:08:31,793 and then it always, for me it's the toes, 176 00:08:31,896 --> 00:08:33,310 it's in the toes, it's like this... 177 00:08:33,413 --> 00:08:35,344 [makes explosion sound] 178 00:08:35,448 --> 00:08:38,586 You get this involuntary bucking, you know, 179 00:08:38,689 --> 00:08:40,448 that right before you're going to go 180 00:08:40,551 --> 00:08:41,793 and it's like oh... 181 00:08:41,896 --> 00:08:44,310 Woman: Your whole body is pulsating. 182 00:08:44,413 --> 00:08:46,172 Woman: Everything's clamping... 183 00:08:46,275 --> 00:08:48,103 Woman: A lot of colour and... 184 00:08:48,206 --> 00:08:49,793 - Often I go deaf. 185 00:08:49,896 --> 00:08:52,172 [cross-talking] 186 00:08:54,620 --> 00:08:56,482 Woman: It's almost like an overload. 187 00:08:56,586 --> 00:08:57,827 It's beyond words. 188 00:08:58,931 --> 00:09:01,241 [moaning] 189 00:09:03,241 --> 00:09:05,862 It's just one. 190 00:09:22,220 --> 00:09:24,050 Woman: When you're like wiping yourself 191 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:26,050 and like you can see like the colours. 192 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:27,770 Woman: It can be painful... 193 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:30,050 [cross-talking] 194 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:32,050 Woman: ..but it doesn't smell disgusting. 195 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:34,250 Woman: My whole body starts to feel heavy 196 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,530 and exhausted. 197 00:09:35,630 --> 00:09:37,250 Woman: I feel a contracting muscle... 198 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,500 Woman: It feels like a big punch in the stomach. 199 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,980 Woman: Carnage. [laughs] 200 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,290 Woman: Different textures. 201 00:09:42,390 --> 00:09:44,870 Woman: Sometimes it's like a light red like fresh blood 202 00:09:44,980 --> 00:09:47,500 and other times, it's a darker, more congealed blood. 203 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,840 Woman: I was always grateful that I was getting my period, 204 00:09:49,940 --> 00:09:51,670 I was always grateful that it was coming. 205 00:09:51,770 --> 00:09:53,530 Woman: Hate them, absolutely dread them. 206 00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:55,700 Woman: Almost like a feeling of being turned on... 207 00:09:55,810 --> 00:09:57,320 Woman: I don't like the feeling of tampons. 208 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:59,360 Woman: I'm very happy with my moon cup. 209 00:09:59,460 --> 00:10:02,770 which I now carry with me all the time. 210 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:04,740 - I think the worst thing about having your period 211 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,600 is the fact that you can smell your period. 212 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:08,150 And you're just sitting there like, 213 00:10:08,250 --> 00:10:10,390 "Oh, my fucking god, I've just come on my period." 214 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:12,670 And the person next to me can clearly smell my period, 215 00:10:12,770 --> 00:10:14,770 and then like a dog sniffs you in the crotch... 216 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:15,870 [dog barks] 217 00:10:15,980 --> 00:10:18,390 ..and you're just like... 218 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,080 - I think a tampon's quite painful 219 00:10:20,180 --> 00:10:22,050 'cause I can remember everybody in school saying, 220 00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:23,630 "Oh, oh, it feels like sex." 221 00:10:23,740 --> 00:10:25,910 I'm like, "Well, if that feels like sex, 222 00:10:26,010 --> 00:10:27,560 "I'm never having sex." 223 00:10:32,430 --> 00:10:33,670 - Free bleeding is basically 224 00:10:33,770 --> 00:10:36,150 where you just decide to not wear a tampon 225 00:10:36,250 --> 00:10:40,740 or a sanitary towel or anything to stop the blood. 226 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,980 Having your period is totally normal, 227 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,700 like it's something that's really expected 228 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:47,530 so why should I have to feel so self-conscious? 229 00:10:48,670 --> 00:10:49,980 - In the Asian community 230 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,320 there is a huge taboo around periods generally. 231 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:59,080 I remember being on a period and going into the kitchen 232 00:10:59,180 --> 00:11:01,430 and I was told not to 233 00:11:01,530 --> 00:11:03,910 because my period would spoil the food 234 00:11:04,010 --> 00:11:05,770 and I was really confused 235 00:11:05,870 --> 00:11:07,810 because my period's there, the food's there, 236 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:09,740 don't know how it would spoil it. 237 00:11:13,220 --> 00:11:18,220 I got my period when I was 12 on Christmas Eve. 238 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,050 I got them when I was nine years old. 239 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:24,010 It was really exciting. 240 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,460 Ran to the top of the step, stairs and shouted, 241 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:27,840 "I've started." 242 00:11:27,940 --> 00:11:29,740 I think like my knickers were still round my ankles 243 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,080 and I was like, "Mum, Mum, I'm bleeding." 244 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:35,810 My mother said, "Oh, oh, I'm so sorry dear." 245 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:38,530 And it was quite a special time in my house. 246 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:41,080 - I was 13 when I had my first period. 247 00:11:41,180 --> 00:11:43,220 I remember feeling devastated. 248 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,080 It was like well, now there's no hope. 249 00:11:46,180 --> 00:11:47,700 I don't get on with my vagina 250 00:11:47,810 --> 00:11:50,390 at that time of the month, we're not friends. 251 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:52,220 It gets quiet 252 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,390 and then it gets angry and then it does all the pain. 253 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,320 When I'm in the middle of my cycle, 254 00:11:58,430 --> 00:12:00,770 so I'm assuming when I would be ovulating, 255 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,670 it's quite a different story. 256 00:12:04,770 --> 00:12:08,220 It's much more interested in sex, penetrative sex. 257 00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:14,390 - I tend to find I have kind of two times of the month 258 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:16,910 when I'm sort of most interested. 259 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:20,940 One is around about ovulation which, you know, 260 00:12:21,050 --> 00:12:23,360 just biologically makes complete sense 261 00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:24,870 'cause it's when your body's going, 262 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:26,530 "It's baby time." 263 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:28,050 But I also have a time 264 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:30,010 usually a couple of days before I bleed as well 265 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,460 and my hubby's always a bit surprised 266 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:32,670 'cause he's always a bit like, 267 00:12:32,770 --> 00:12:34,390 "Aren't you about to have your period?" 268 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:36,010 I'm like, "Yeah, and?" [chuckles] 269 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,010 And even just now and again, 270 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,630 day three of bleeding can be quite arousing. 271 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,250 - Can you lie down in this space? 272 00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:50,080 How do you want my legs? 273 00:12:50,180 --> 00:12:51,500 Just relax them to the side, 274 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,290 just let them flop in a way it feels comfortable. 275 00:12:54,390 --> 00:12:57,080 Looking very yoga'ey, that's all good. 276 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,250 There she is. 277 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:07,150 God, it is so pretty, isn't it? 278 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:13,980 My vulva looks and reminds me of a pink cupcake 279 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,940 because it's very pink and plump 280 00:13:18,050 --> 00:13:20,810 and where the labia and clitoris are, 281 00:13:20,910 --> 00:13:24,840 it looks as though someone's piped layers of pink icing. 282 00:13:26,290 --> 00:13:29,250 There's a little mole to the left of my labia 283 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,460 which reminds me of a little chocolate chip 284 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:34,180 that's just been popped on the top of the cupcake. 285 00:13:34,290 --> 00:13:36,250 The penis is this knife 286 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,740 that is cutting into the layers of the rose velvet. 287 00:13:45,770 --> 00:13:50,290 It's kind of slicing through, cutting up the cake 288 00:13:50,390 --> 00:13:53,940 which means it's sort of almost disintegrating, 289 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:56,810 it's not in its previous solid form 290 00:13:56,910 --> 00:14:00,740 which I think plays on my wanting to be ruined in a way 291 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,500 and sort of fucked up. 292 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,530 And it ends up just being this messy mixture at the end 293 00:14:07,630 --> 00:14:12,290 which is when I'm at my most kind of shaky, in a good way, 294 00:14:12,390 --> 00:14:15,600 vulnerable state because I'm completely done 295 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:20,150 and wobbling and I'm just a mess of rose velvet. 296 00:14:24,670 --> 00:14:30,630 - At 26, I met a skinhead who absolutely ruined me. 297 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:37,600 I had to go home the day after and Google what just happened. 298 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:41,430 He was the one that first discovered that I could squirt, 299 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:44,010 I didn't even think sex like that was out there, 300 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,180 I always thought I had really good sex. 301 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 A clitoral orgasm is different from a penetrative orgasm 302 00:14:50,430 --> 00:14:51,670 is different from a squirt. 303 00:14:51,770 --> 00:14:53,080 [moaning] 304 00:14:53,180 --> 00:14:55,740 There was no going back from that moment, 305 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:59,010 then it was always wanting to chase 306 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,180 that kind of sex and the squirt. 307 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:05,600 - The privilege of being allowed 308 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:10,220 in or near someone's vagina, it's... 309 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,630 She needs to be vulnerable, 310 00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:14,460 she needs to be accepting of the situation, 311 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,810 but it's so intimate 312 00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:17,460 but it's more intimate than anything else 313 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,220 because you're going inside somebody, 314 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,670 Penetrative sex is... That's an enormous deal, 315 00:15:23,770 --> 00:15:25,740 that's not a small thing. 316 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:29,390 But we live in a society that doesn't think that way, 317 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:30,560 we live in a society 318 00:15:30,670 --> 00:15:34,670 that treats women entirely like a cock pocket. 319 00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:40,630 OK, that's that done, thank you very much. 320 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:43,700 Yeah, if you could get into a really relaxed position there. 321 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:50,390 Brilliant, OK, cool. 322 00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:57,250 Wow. 323 00:15:58,430 --> 00:16:00,910 It's different to looking in a mirror, isn't it? 324 00:16:01,010 --> 00:16:03,500 It is very different from looking in the mirror. 325 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,500 You can tell it picks up the scars far more easily. 326 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,770 How do you feel about it? 327 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,740 OK, it's not perfect, 328 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,910 doesn't need to be, you know. 329 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:20,460 I still really like it, it does me, 330 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,460 it does what I need it to do. 331 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,430 I grew up in a pretty rough town, 332 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,050 you know, a lot of violence going on 333 00:16:31,150 --> 00:16:32,770 and a lot of macho culture going on, 334 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:34,120 so at eight years old, 335 00:16:34,220 --> 00:16:35,430 I came to the realisation 336 00:16:35,530 --> 00:16:37,560 that while I was a boy, 337 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:39,560 I should have been born a girl. 338 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,600 My penis itself felt like, very much like a foreign body, 339 00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:54,500 it was an alien object that was attached to me for some reason. 340 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,360 My vagina is just as sensitive as the penis before it. 341 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,180 My clitoris is made up of essentially 342 00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:06,180 a section of the head of the penis 343 00:17:06,290 --> 00:17:11,010 and, um yeah, it's awesome, the sex is incredible. 344 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,180 - My generation are realising 345 00:17:16,290 --> 00:17:18,530 that having a vagina or having a penis 346 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:20,870 doesn't necessarily define your gender 347 00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:23,430 and it's much more about, you know, 348 00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:25,180 how you identify and how you feel 349 00:17:25,290 --> 00:17:26,810 and it's much more personal choice. 350 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:32,940 Like the label 'virgin' I don't like. 351 00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:36,500 It's just you have had it or you haven't had it. 352 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,910 - I told my mum, 353 00:17:39,010 --> 00:17:41,630 I actually sent her a text, it literally just said, 354 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:44,500 "So Mum, I've got something to tell you, 355 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,460 "promise not to be mad, 356 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,050 "but I just lost my virginity." 357 00:17:50,530 --> 00:17:54,220 And she took ages to respond and she was like, 358 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,910 "I'm crying and I feel very emotionally overwhelmed, 359 00:17:59,010 --> 00:18:03,500 "but I'm glad that you feel that you trust me enough 360 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,940 "and can be open enough with me to share that experience." 361 00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:13,290 - I was 15, I was with my boyfriend 362 00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:16,430 and it was in his single bed. 363 00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:18,360 He's got like a cartoon duvet. 364 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,560 And it was over within about 30 seconds, 365 00:18:21,670 --> 00:18:23,150 it was a few pumps and done 366 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:24,630 because it was his first time too 367 00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:26,560 and he was probably super nervous 368 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:30,390 and then we had sex six more times on that sleepover 369 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:32,810 'cause I was like, "We've got to get good at this." 370 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:38,910 - I'm 19, I'm still a virgin. 371 00:18:39,010 --> 00:18:41,050 My friends are quite mixed, 372 00:18:41,150 --> 00:18:43,360 a lot of them still are virgins. 373 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:46,050 I don't have a wish list, 374 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:47,980 I don't want to set 375 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,010 my expectations of anything too high 376 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:53,250 and I just think, if it happens, it happens. 377 00:18:54,290 --> 00:18:57,010 I think the young men I slept with, 378 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,460 or had done anything with, 379 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,770 had basically just an idea 380 00:19:00,870 --> 00:19:05,120 that there was one type of vulva and one sort of uniform look 381 00:19:05,220 --> 00:19:08,980 as to how women look down there 382 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:13,770 and I think they had a slightly warped idea 383 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:18,120 of how they're meant to be, like, treated. 384 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:21,080 Obviously in a lot of sex, 385 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:26,910 that you see in porn, it's very hard, very intense, 386 00:19:27,010 --> 00:19:29,980 and especially when you're a young teenager 387 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,360 and you're having your first experiences with sex, 388 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:34,390 some people might not want to 389 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,390 go like hard and fast the first few times, 390 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:40,560 especially when you're like, "What is this?" 391 00:19:48,050 --> 00:19:50,180 You don't really get taught about the mechanics of sex, 392 00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:52,980 you just get taught about, you know, how a child is made 393 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,980 through sex rather than any sort of care or compassion 394 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,320 or respect for each other. 395 00:20:00,430 --> 00:20:04,740 So I think that yeah, through watching porn like that, 396 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,840 I think a lot of previous partners 397 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,740 didn't really understand 398 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,010 that it was very much a two way street 399 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,150 and the myth of the female orgasm 400 00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:15,810 wasn't even a consideration. 401 00:20:17,770 --> 00:20:19,600 - Porn is an enormous thing, 402 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:20,980 there's amazing, beautiful, 403 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,050 artistic queer porn that's happening 404 00:20:23,150 --> 00:20:26,740 and then there's stuff which is clearly really abusive 405 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,810 and driving rape culture. 406 00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:32,500 [moaning] 407 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,220 The way in which you supposedly make a woman come in porn 408 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,980 is definitely not, 409 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,500 well maybe some women, but not for me anyway. 410 00:20:40,770 --> 00:20:43,220 - The women have been so degraded 411 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,430 that it completely puts me off. 412 00:20:45,530 --> 00:20:47,530 Black women are pictured as animals 413 00:20:47,630 --> 00:20:50,910 and it's quite degrading in quite a racist way. 414 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:54,220 Porn is very distorted 415 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,560 and it's reinforcing the idea that your body as a woman 416 00:20:57,670 --> 00:20:59,500 is not enough the way that it is, 417 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,250 that it needs to be changed. 418 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,180 It made me feel like my vulva wasn't normal 419 00:21:04,290 --> 00:21:08,120 in its shape and in the pubic hairs 420 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:10,560 and how... Like I grew so much, 421 00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:12,220 like it was abnormal for me. 422 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,560 [moaning] 423 00:21:13,670 --> 00:21:17,630 - I find it difficult to feel truly satisfied watching porn 424 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:20,050 because I don't know the circumstances 425 00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:22,360 and I want to check everyone, particularly the women, 426 00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:24,080 I want to check that she's OK. 427 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,810 I do get off on watching a couple having sex 428 00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:32,940 and then having sex with someone myself at the same time. 429 00:21:33,050 --> 00:21:34,700 There's something quite animalistic 430 00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:37,840 about not making eye contact with each other, 431 00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:39,560 but just watching these two 432 00:21:39,670 --> 00:21:41,360 other essentially animals fucking. 433 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:45,120 [moaning] 434 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:04,170 Narrator: I'm photographing 100 women's vulvas, 435 00:22:04,270 --> 00:22:05,550 including my own, 436 00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:07,580 to help us see our bodies in a new way. 437 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:11,370 When I started this project 438 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,650 I wasn't prepared for the amount of pain and trauma 439 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:15,100 I'd hear about. 440 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,680 - I was raised in an evangelical Christian household, 441 00:22:23,790 --> 00:22:26,310 I just knew sex before marriage was wrong 442 00:22:26,410 --> 00:22:28,270 and I was taught that 443 00:22:28,370 --> 00:22:30,580 if you want to be free from sin, 444 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,680 you don't even like open the door, 445 00:22:32,790 --> 00:22:34,170 you don't put a toe in. 446 00:22:36,410 --> 00:22:39,890 - In Islam, the vagina isn't really talked about. 447 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,340 There is still that stigma of like dirty vagina 448 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,060 and that women should really keep their legs closed. 449 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,030 - Growing up, I was completely scared of my vagina 450 00:22:51,130 --> 00:22:54,790 when I thought about it which was rare. 451 00:22:54,890 --> 00:23:01,480 It was a hugely scary portal to trouble. 452 00:23:02,860 --> 00:23:04,960 - I went to an Islamic boarding school, 453 00:23:05,060 --> 00:23:08,000 we had to wear the whole abaya, 454 00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:11,720 niqab, like everything, hijab, 24-7. 455 00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:14,100 Can't even have books from the outside world, 456 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,130 there's no phones, no TV, no music. 457 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,580 I was singing a song, 458 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,170 a random song by Beyonce, 459 00:23:20,270 --> 00:23:22,170 a roommate casually came up to me and said, 460 00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:23,790 "You're going to hell for that." 461 00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:26,200 My first kind of big crush 462 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:28,480 was Ron Weasley from Harry Potter, 463 00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:30,100 guilty as charged. 464 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480 And I remember having a poster up of him 465 00:23:32,580 --> 00:23:35,720 When I was about 12 and I felt it was so wrong, 466 00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:39,270 I took it down because I felt it was sinful. 467 00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:41,890 I didn't know what I was shutting myself off from, 468 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440 but that door was firmly shut. 469 00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:49,170 There are some thoughts and some papers 470 00:23:49,270 --> 00:23:52,240 suggesting that a religious upbringing 471 00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:55,240 can have an effect on vulvar health, 472 00:23:55,340 --> 00:23:57,200 particularly the pelvic floor, 473 00:23:57,310 --> 00:23:59,240 and, and like vaginismus 474 00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:01,240 and like the pelvic floor just clenching up, 475 00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:06,370 as kind of like a psychogenic response to that shame. 476 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,410 That it's literally like your muscles go, 477 00:24:08,510 --> 00:24:12,200 "Right, OK then, no thank you very much, not for us." 478 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:14,580 And sometimes women find that 479 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,030 when they try and strip those barriers down, 480 00:24:17,130 --> 00:24:19,130 the muscles do not get the message 481 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,130 and I think that was definitely the case for me. 482 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,650 My longest relationship was about two years 483 00:24:24,750 --> 00:24:29,100 and we never had penetrative sex. 484 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,440 We tried once or twice but it just wasn't happening. 485 00:24:33,550 --> 00:24:36,720 There was no way and it was also extremely distressing as well, 486 00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:38,650 so I couldn't keep trying 487 00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:43,170 because it was such a horrible experience. 488 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,000 But things are better now. 489 00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:51,440 Err... 490 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,410 Sorry. 491 00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:59,820 Honestly I think I try 492 00:24:59,930 --> 00:25:01,620 not to think about that time very much 493 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,240 because I'm feeling so much more positive now 494 00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:09,100 than I was now that that avenue has opened up to me. 495 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,060 But I really felt like my quality of life was done for, 496 00:25:13,170 --> 00:25:15,060 really done for 497 00:25:15,170 --> 00:25:16,860 and that I wouldn't be loved, 498 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,060 I wouldn't be able to be in a relationship, 499 00:25:19,170 --> 00:25:22,750 and that I wouldn't be able to be accepted. 500 00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:27,790 Yeah, it was dire. 501 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,270 There were moments where 502 00:25:33,370 --> 00:25:35,580 I didn't know what I was going to live for 503 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,340 and whether I wanted to. 504 00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:48,860 - My nickname is The Vagina Woman 505 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,030 because I talk about vagina every single day. 506 00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:55,550 As a sexual health nurse, I talk about vaginas, 507 00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:57,820 it's like I'm talking about cup of tea. 508 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,890 We talk about masturbations, 509 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,720 we talk about oral sex, we talk about anal sex, 510 00:26:03,820 --> 00:26:05,650 we talk about fisting, we talk about... 511 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:08,650 You name it, every single thing that can go on 512 00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:11,580 in a sexual health clinic, we talk about it. 513 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,000 So the morning I had FGM, 514 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:24,750 it was like Christmas for me, 515 00:26:24,860 --> 00:26:28,720 imagine being seven years old and having a massive party 516 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:31,340 and where you know there's a woman coming in 517 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,890 to do your henna, 518 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,170 there's another woman there to do your hair. 519 00:26:35,270 --> 00:26:36,680 It was amazing 520 00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:39,340 and that's the first time I actually got a watch, 521 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,030 so every time I look at the watch, 522 00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:42,620 I do remember those days. 523 00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:45,510 I felt the needle going in, 524 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:49,100 after that, everything just went quiet. 525 00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,240 And she looked at me and said to me, 526 00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:55,000 "Now you are a woman." 527 00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:57,100 Once she left 528 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,750 and the local anaesthetic was coming out of my system, 529 00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:04,100 I was burning and I remember screaming and just crying. 530 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:09,060 We were very lucky 531 00:27:09,170 --> 00:27:12,680 because we had money to afford local anaesthetic. 532 00:27:12,790 --> 00:27:14,060 There are girls being cut 533 00:27:14,170 --> 00:27:17,550 without any medical assistance at all. 534 00:27:17,650 --> 00:27:22,310 My clitoris was removed and labia minora, labia majora 535 00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:25,340 and they stitched it all the way down 536 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,310 until they left me a little hole 537 00:27:27,410 --> 00:27:29,440 that is no bigger than a matchstick. 538 00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:33,060 Producer: And you would only always have 539 00:27:33,170 --> 00:27:36,170 one little hole to urinate and menstruate through? 540 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:37,270 Yeah. 541 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,000 I was in hospital because of FGM 542 00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,960 from the age of 11 till I was 17 years old. 543 00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:48,960 My period was accumulating inside 544 00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:50,680 and it wasn't coming out. 545 00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:53,060 FGM took away my childhood. 546 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:58,030 I was never that girl that was playing outside with her friends 547 00:27:58,130 --> 00:28:00,790 or going to go to the cinema with her friends 548 00:28:00,890 --> 00:28:02,650 'cause I was always in hospital. 549 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:06,550 And it took away my chance to be a mother. 550 00:28:06,650 --> 00:28:08,930 Now I would never know what is it like 551 00:28:09,030 --> 00:28:10,790 to carry your own child. 552 00:28:14,130 --> 00:28:15,510 All of that was taken away 553 00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:18,790 to prove to my future husband that I'm a virgin. 554 00:28:26,930 --> 00:28:30,060 We know there's a lot of excuses of why FGM happens, 555 00:28:30,170 --> 00:28:33,240 but really FGM happens to control a women's sexuality. 556 00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:36,060 They think cutting a woman's clitoris and stitching her up 557 00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:38,370 will stop her sleeping around. 558 00:28:39,410 --> 00:28:40,960 Growing up to hear that, 559 00:28:41,060 --> 00:28:43,750 we didn't even thought about pleasure. 560 00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:45,440 But what was surprising for me 561 00:28:45,550 --> 00:28:47,620 was even though the clitoris has been cut, 562 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,200 the rest of the clitoris is actually inside, 563 00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:54,200 women don't realise that actually the clitoris is inside, 564 00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:56,960 there's, the nerve is all around our vagina. 565 00:28:57,060 --> 00:29:00,060 So we just need to know what works for us. 566 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,340 As a woman who had FGM, 567 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680 do I have a really nice sex life? 568 00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:06,100 Yes, I do. 569 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,620 Do I have orgasm? 570 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,860 Yes, I do. 571 00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:21,130 I've got clients that enjoy the smell. 572 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:23,510 They will be like, 573 00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:25,680 "Make sure you've worn your knickers all day." 574 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:30,000 My cunt's a bit fishy. 575 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,340 I'm going for it, crushed strawberries and cream. 576 00:29:33,410 --> 00:29:35,170 That's what my vagina smells like. 577 00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:37,370 Apparently my vagina smells different 578 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,100 before I'm about to get my period. 579 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000 Woman: If I have a lot of sugar, a lot of dairy. 580 00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,720 Woman: Slight smell of [inaudible]. 581 00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:45,680 Woman: That changes the smell of my vagina. 582 00:29:45,790 --> 00:29:47,270 - There's a really big taboo 583 00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:49,240 around the word discharge. People think, 584 00:29:49,340 --> 00:29:50,550 "Oh, that's disgusting", 585 00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:52,370 or, "Oh, I don't get any discharge." 586 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,310 You do, we all do. 587 00:29:54,410 --> 00:29:56,060 Like it's nothing to be embarrassed about. 588 00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:58,340 It changes throughout your life and your cycle 589 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,060 and yes, I have discharge and my vulva looks moist. 590 00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:04,620 I...so I still struggle 591 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,240 with the kind of more corporeal aspects of, 592 00:30:06,340 --> 00:30:07,650 of that kind of thing, 593 00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:11,550 I just feel like it's the same 594 00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:14,100 with the hair and stuff, like vaginas have a smell, 595 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,100 vaginas have hair, it's a thing, 596 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,170 like that's something that I'm still working on. 597 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:31,370 - I was born in Ireland in 1975, 598 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,820 so when I was growing up 599 00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:36,960 a lot of things around people, 600 00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:39,440 but particularly women, were silenced. 601 00:30:39,550 --> 00:30:40,960 You were just left with this kind of feeling 602 00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:43,820 of shame and misunderstanding. 603 00:30:48,650 --> 00:30:52,130 - My parents are really liberal, open people, 604 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,510 they grew up in Brighton 605 00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:57,550 like in the '60s and '70s, like they're cool people, 606 00:30:57,650 --> 00:31:02,240 they always talked about how sex 607 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:05,580 was a really important thing between two people, 608 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,550 not that it had to be with one person forever, 609 00:31:08,650 --> 00:31:10,370 but just that the person 610 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,790 you were having sex with had to... 611 00:31:11,890 --> 00:31:13,580 ..they had to mean something to you 612 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,240 and you had to have feelings for them. 613 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480 - So at about like seven, I was very, very switched on, 614 00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:37,750 I knew what I wanted to do, I saved, 615 00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:41,440 I worked to make sure that my life was ordered 616 00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:44,170 and then my world was turned upside down 617 00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,480 in a very unpleasant way 618 00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:49,410 because I was raped by someone I really trusted 619 00:31:49,510 --> 00:31:53,170 and that caused a huge amount of chaos and upset 620 00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:57,650 which at that age I really didn't know how to deal with. 621 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:59,240 And not being able to talk about it 622 00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:01,890 meant no one else could help me deal with it either, 623 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,100 so you were just kind of left with that 624 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,580 not knowing what it is 625 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,060 and not really understanding what's just happened. 626 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,890 So when I was 19 I was on holiday, 627 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,820 and I was raped by the manager of the hotel 628 00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:29,170 that I was staying in. 629 00:32:32,790 --> 00:32:34,240 And then I came back from the holiday 630 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:36,820 and I just sort of brushed it under the carpet 631 00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:39,170 as a, "OK, well that probably wasn't a very good thing, 632 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:40,860 "but just didn't think about it." 633 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,000 And then as the years went by 634 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,960 it just...it... I just started to realise 635 00:32:47,060 --> 00:32:49,270 that it was really affecting me in so many ways, 636 00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:53,030 my confidence levels just plummeted. 637 00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:57,000 When somebody's violated you in that way 638 00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,200 and just taken from you in that way, 639 00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:05,580 your self-worth is like I'm nothing. 640 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,310 It can make you not want to be alive 641 00:33:08,410 --> 00:33:12,790 and that's how I felt for a long time, just like well, 642 00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:17,000 "If I died it wouldn't make any difference." 643 00:33:18,550 --> 00:33:21,370 I went from being a super confident, 644 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,820 really happy young woman wearing low cut tops, 645 00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:26,310 loved my boobs, 646 00:33:26,410 --> 00:33:27,860 I thought they were the best thing ever 647 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,060 to suddenly hating 648 00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:35,100 anything that was sexual about my body. 649 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,310 In all of the warnings that were given as girls 650 00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:41,440 by our mothers and fathers, 651 00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:45,370 it's almost like you could expect something like this 652 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,790 is going to happen 653 00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:48,510 and because you've been told about it, 654 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:51,200 it is almost like well, then it is your fault. 655 00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:52,580 If I'd done something differently, 656 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,790 if I'd not drunk, 657 00:33:53,890 --> 00:33:56,620 if I'd not said something or done something 658 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,650 or been in a certain place 659 00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:59,270 would it have turned out differently? 660 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:01,860 Those questions that go round and round in your head 661 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,620 are the...they're the questions that ruin you. 662 00:34:06,170 --> 00:34:08,100 - You know, what happens at such a young age 663 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,580 becomes such a part of you 664 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,510 that you sort of don't know who you might have been without it. 665 00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:16,960 I just wish I could be normal, 666 00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:18,310 I just wish I knew what it was like 667 00:34:18,410 --> 00:34:22,720 to just be able to enjoy sex 668 00:34:22,820 --> 00:34:24,370 and even just silly things, 669 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960 like I don't really like watching films or TV programmes 670 00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:30,860 'cause so many of them have sexual assaults in them, 671 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,030 like everyone keeps saying, 672 00:34:32,130 --> 00:34:33,480 "Oh, have you watched 'The Handmaid's Tale'?" 673 00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:36,130 and I'm like I can't, I can't, I can't watch it. 674 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:42,170 Understanding how that feeling of violation 675 00:34:43,170 --> 00:34:44,890 must be turned around 676 00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:52,790 became something that energised me to learn, 677 00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:58,720 to understand you can't fix it, but you can kind of resolve it. 678 00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:06,550 I'm currently in a relationship and the sex is great, 679 00:35:06,650 --> 00:35:08,750 I feel completely differently about it, 680 00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:11,370 which is...oh, just such a relief, 681 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,060 I just think it's so... 682 00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:16,550 I really was worried that this was me forever, 683 00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:18,550 I was just never going to enjoy sex 684 00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:21,200 and I am at the moment 685 00:35:21,310 --> 00:35:24,440 and I can't begin to describe how fantastic that is, 686 00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:28,060 I feel like I'm normal again and that's really nice. 687 00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:31,000 I promised myself 688 00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:37,790 that I wouldn't let the people who raped me 689 00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:41,240 take my present and my future. 690 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:19,390 - Like every orgasm is different, 691 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:20,560 every birth is different. 692 00:36:20,670 --> 00:36:21,870 - I went in at the last minute 693 00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:24,120 'cause I didn't want, you know, too much interference. 694 00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:25,460 Every vulva's is different, 695 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,120 every baby that emerges is different. 696 00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:28,430 - You have to sort of concentrate and focus 697 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:30,460 and nothing else seems to matter. 698 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,870 - And I just did what I was told. 699 00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:33,080 - And I was just throwing up all the time, 700 00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:35,430 like, the whole birth I was just pooed and threw up 701 00:36:35,530 --> 00:36:36,430 and pooed and threw up. 702 00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:37,840 - You just carry on, don't you? 703 00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:40,940 - The first time was really hard, 704 00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:43,500 and I tore and I had stitches. 705 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,560 - I had a third-degree tear, 706 00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:47,670 I also had ventouse and forceps, so I had quite a lot done. 707 00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:50,220 - I had an episiotomy and forceps 708 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,600 and it was absolutely horrendous. 709 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:57,050 - The tear went through the muscle tissue around my anus. 710 00:36:57,150 --> 00:36:59,500 - And I feel angry that, that happened. 711 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,740 - It took me probably 15 years 712 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,600 to get over having Caesarean sections. 713 00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,250 - When I was sewn up I was sewn up incorrectly, 714 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,740 - I didn't feel like a proper mother. 715 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,910 I couldn't even manage to give birth to my children. 716 00:37:11,010 --> 00:37:11,910 - After he stitched me up 717 00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:13,980 I didn't feel the same as before. 718 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,910 And I've never been able to exactly pee straight down 719 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:20,770 because my cunt has been made wonky. 720 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:23,740 I was really sore for a couple of weeks, 721 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,120 but you kind of don't care 722 00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:27,600 because you've got this little snuffly bundle 723 00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,250 that's just, you know, really gorgeous. 724 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,840 You know, birthing can be such an amazing thing 725 00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:37,320 within a world that tries its best 726 00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:41,320 to tell us it's the hardest and the worst thing in the world. 727 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:43,320 - After the horror of childbirth, 728 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:45,870 breastfeeding was a doddle. 729 00:37:45,980 --> 00:37:48,150 - You breastfeed, it makes your womb contract harder. 730 00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:51,910 - Sucking, you could feel the contraction in your uterus 731 00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:53,500 and of course in your cunt. 732 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,430 - And then you realise that you're gushing down below 733 00:37:55,530 --> 00:37:58,360 and you're like, "Is this OK, is this normal?" 734 00:37:58,460 --> 00:37:59,600 I'd have been really grateful 735 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,430 if I'd known that was going to happen. 736 00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:19,980 - I think when I was first told 737 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,700 that it was really unlikely 738 00:38:22,810 --> 00:38:26,220 that I would ever be able to conceive, 739 00:38:27,010 --> 00:38:30,600 that massively made me question 740 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:34,180 my entire identity as a woman, 741 00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:38,120 what did womanhood even mean if you couldn't have kids? 742 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:42,050 We are socialised from a very young age 743 00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:46,910 to believe that we are entitled to a family, 744 00:38:47,010 --> 00:38:48,740 we're entitled to that... 745 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,250 that biological right or capacity to conceive. 746 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,500 You have to find new ways to explore womanhood. 747 00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:05,560 - I'd wanted a child for a long time with my partner 748 00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:09,600 and was told that it wasn't going to be possible 749 00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:12,530 but then it was possible 750 00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:16,120 and got to the stage of seeing the child's heartbeat. 751 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:19,530 And then I was staying with a friend 752 00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:24,180 and realised I was having a miscarriage, 753 00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:30,220 so I went into the hospital and I went to the toilet to pee 754 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,910 and then the whole miscarriage just came out. 755 00:39:33,010 --> 00:39:35,700 And I remember looking in the loo 756 00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:39,320 and thinking, "That's my baby in the loo," 757 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,460 so I put my hand down 758 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,500 to pick her up and just held her. 759 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:56,940 And it was like a massive piece of liver, dark, warm, bloody. 760 00:39:59,630 --> 00:40:01,150 There is a loss there, 761 00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:03,980 but it's taken me to this age of 52 762 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,910 to be able to say it's not the end of the world. 763 00:40:17,050 --> 00:40:19,630 - I'd been bleeding for a few weeks in between periods 764 00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:23,290 and a lot after sex with my boyfriend at the time 765 00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:26,120 and he said, "Is it because my dick's too big?" 766 00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:31,980 So when the doctor said, "You've got cervical cancer," 767 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,010 it felt like a ton of paving slabs 768 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,050 had just been thrown onto my chest 769 00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:42,770 and I just thought, "I'm 24, like I'm not..." 770 00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:45,150 I haven't even had a smear test yet 771 00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:48,770 and I'm being told that I've got cancer. 772 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,320 I had my cervix removed, 773 00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:54,700 the surrounding kind of tissue area 774 00:40:54,810 --> 00:40:56,530 and the top third of my vagina. 775 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:58,360 There's a lot of kind of stigma 776 00:40:58,460 --> 00:41:00,320 around having a gynaecological disease, 777 00:41:00,430 --> 00:41:02,840 like somebody at my old job when I was leaving to go 778 00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:05,770 and have the operation said, 779 00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:07,120 "What kind of cancer have you got?" 780 00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:08,320 and I said, "Cervical." 781 00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:10,250 And she said, "Well, how do you get that?" 782 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,500 And like you wouldn't ask the same 783 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,700 if I'd said breast, bowel or brain. 784 00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:16,180 When it's something in between your legs, 785 00:41:16,290 --> 00:41:17,220 there's this assumption 786 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,120 that you've done something wrong as a woman, 787 00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:21,810 there's a lot of judgement and inaccuracy. 788 00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:24,910 It's medically inaccurate that you have to have, you know, 789 00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:27,940 slept with a lot of people to have a gynae problem. 790 00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,870 There is this stigma around gynae health, 791 00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:34,390 which means that some women will not be as lucky as I was. 792 00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:40,940 - When I was really little 793 00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:43,220 and I didn't understand about what bodies were 794 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,530 and gender was, 795 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:46,810 I honestly thought I would grow up to be a boy. 796 00:41:46,910 --> 00:41:49,290 I just thought that's just how it was, 797 00:41:49,390 --> 00:41:52,390 some people changed and I didn't... 798 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,120 maybe I didn't even think that I was going to change, 799 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:55,670 maybe I thought I already was a boy. 800 00:41:58,910 --> 00:42:05,320 I don't really see myself as male or female, 801 00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:09,500 I understand that my physical body is female, 802 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,250 but myself, excluding the skin sack, 803 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,530 is much more neutral. 804 00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:19,080 I have elements of masculine and feminine, 805 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,530 I think everybody does really, 806 00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:22,290 but I feel that mine are very balanced, 807 00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:25,390 and I sit somewhere sort of very cleanly in the middle 808 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,120 though it fluctuates a fair bit 809 00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:30,150 so, non-binary is a shorthand way of saying that. 810 00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:33,630 The moment that I understood what non-binary meant, 811 00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:36,220 or gender-neutral is the term I was using at the time, 812 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,290 it was honest to God, like, I was flooded with light, 813 00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:42,870 I felt so alive and so connected 814 00:42:42,980 --> 00:42:44,910 and so calm and centred 815 00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:49,010 and it was just like finally, I make sense. 816 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,840 Alright, fine, I've done it, can I turn it off? 817 00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:53,500 Cool. 818 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,940 Off. 819 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,290 Go away. 820 00:42:59,390 --> 00:43:01,460 My vagina is what it is 821 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,940 and there's nothing I can do about that 822 00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:05,390 and I don't think I'd want to, 823 00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:07,500 it takes up a lot of head space. 824 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,120 I'm very aware of it at all times, 825 00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:12,360 never goes away. 826 00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:15,390 - Bring your knees a bit. 827 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,010 Just let your legs relax to the sides, 828 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,980 just get comfortable. Ready? 829 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,080 - Mm-hm. - OK. 830 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,870 That's great. OK, one more. Fantastic. 831 00:43:27,460 --> 00:43:30,980 Oh wow, gorgeous. 832 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080 That's really lovely. 833 00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,150 - I can't wait for menopause, 834 00:43:36,250 --> 00:43:38,290 I want my period to be over with, 835 00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:39,980 I want it gone. 836 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,740 Let the bleeding stop. 837 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,740 I'm just about to have a hot flush, 838 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,050 I'm sorry, guys. 839 00:43:48,910 --> 00:43:51,290 - I never had any of that stuff about, 840 00:43:51,390 --> 00:43:54,560 "Oh, you're going to be a dried up old woman." 841 00:43:57,010 --> 00:44:01,290 I kept getting wet when I was having sex. 842 00:44:01,390 --> 00:44:03,250 I'm 70, I was 70 in May 843 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,560 and I still enjoy sex. 844 00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:10,250 I'm more dry than I used to be, so I use a lubricant. 845 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,500 A little bit of spit, you know, solves that little problem. 846 00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:24,530 - I didn't stop desiring sex, 847 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:29,530 I didn't stop wanting orgasms, 848 00:44:29,630 --> 00:44:32,560 really your life goes in different waves, 849 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,010 up and down, 850 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,120 you want sex or you don't want sex, 851 00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:38,810 I didn't want sex after I had my kids 852 00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:44,530 but after menopause I then thought to myself, 853 00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:49,320 "Honey, you're on your own, make the most of it," and I did. 854 00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:54,630 Narrator: I wanted to bring the reality of our bodies 855 00:44:54,740 --> 00:44:56,980 and the truth of our experiences into the open. 856 00:44:58,770 --> 00:45:01,560 I've now photographed 100 vulvas up close, 857 00:45:02,980 --> 00:45:07,150 it's been transformative and looking at them altogether, 858 00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:08,770 none of us are the same, 859 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:11,740 we're not all neat, pink and perfect. 860 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,460 I think a lot of people have this really solid idea 861 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,250 of what a vagina should look like 862 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,430 and if everyone just kind of dropped that 863 00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:24,810 and knew that there were loads of different vaginas 864 00:45:24,910 --> 00:45:28,320 then I think vaginas would be a lot happier. 865 00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:33,770 What if women did a sexual Brexit and took back control 866 00:45:34,810 --> 00:45:37,360 and then said to men, 867 00:45:37,460 --> 00:45:39,360 "You're only allowed near it if you know what you're doing," 868 00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:42,630 and we set up a kind of driver's licence? 869 00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:45,600 I think it would be useful. 870 00:45:47,940 --> 00:45:49,010 Narrator: This part of ourselves 871 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,600 which we're so conditioned to conceal 872 00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:54,460 actually defines so much of our lives as women 873 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,940 and our most intimate experiences, 874 00:45:57,050 --> 00:46:01,010 pleasurable and painful, shouldn't be treated as taboo, 875 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,120 but as a testament to our strength. 67889

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