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OK, OK.
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Bit more wrinkly
than I'd have thought.
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Do I have to?
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It's not quite as bad
as I thought it was going to be.
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Like maybe like a slug.
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Oh. Hmm.
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Narrator: I'm Laura Dodsworth
and I'm an artist
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working on a project about
our most intimate body part.
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In the past I've attracted
controversy with my work
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by photographing and writing
about penises and breasts,
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now I'm ready
for the last taboo.
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I'm asking 100 women
to get naked
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and talk about their vaginas
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and I'm going to take part too.
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I'm photographing their vulvas,
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that's the part on the outside
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and interviewing them
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about how their vaginas
have shaped their lives.
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It's a part of ourselves
that we don't talk about,
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understand or even look at.
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It's time to see
what's really down there
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and how it defines us.
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Woman: Lady garden.
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Woman: Fanny.
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Woman: I say pussy.
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Woman: Pussy.
Woman: Pussy.
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Woman: I like the word vagina.
Woman: Vagina, vulva.
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Woman: Vulva.
Woman: Privates.
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Woman: Front bottom
and possibly fanny.
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Woman: Fanny.
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Woman: Foo foos, la-las,
and minis and things.
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Woman: Front door
of happiness.
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Woman: The rose cupcake.
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Woman: Cunt.
Woman: Cunt.
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- I call it my beautiful cunt.
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- The vagina is such
a magnificent thing,
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it does so many amazing things,
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including like giving birth
to like a whole new people.
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- Growing up,
I never looked at my vulva
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because there was no need to,
I just washed it.
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When I did eventually
look at it,
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I really felt like a huge weight
had been lifted from me.
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- There's still a lot of shame
around the vagina,
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I think it starts in school,
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boys are taught about
wet dreams and erections
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and the female equivalent
is about periods.
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We do bleed as well,
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but we also have the equivalent
of an erection and a wet dream.
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- The penis is this really
funny appendage at one end
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and very powerful
and like dominating
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on the other end,
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but nobody wants
to think about a vulva,
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no one wants to think about
a vagina, it's like ugh, gross.
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When you tell me you're ready,
I'll take the photograph.
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- Yes, ready.
- Ready? OK.
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- Yeah.
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Narrator: As well
as taking photos,
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I'm interviewing women about
every aspect of their vaginas
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from pleasure to pain.
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That's alright.
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It's different
seeing it like that,
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but it's fine.
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It's mine, it's fine.
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Woman: I wear my pubic hair
au naturel.
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Woman: It's neat and tidy,
I keep it reasonably short.
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Woman: I'm sporting a full-on
Afro right now.
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Woman: [laughs] Like bald.
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Woman: When you get the back
and the sides shaved, you know,
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like level three trim.
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Woman: I've always liked
pubic hair.
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Woman: It's there
for a reason,
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it's there to keep bacteria out.
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- Usually I'm bald
and I like that.
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I have a bald patch
in the middle,
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because of my operation.
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You know, trim around it.
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I'm actually thinking about
making it blonde one side.
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I literally
have not done anything
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in terms of grooming
to my vagina in maybe two years.
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Occasionally my boyfriend
will help me
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when I ask him to
with his clippers.
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Which involve me
like screaming at him
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'cause I thought he was
going to cut off my clit.
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But he did a really great job
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and he was very calm whilst
he was doing it, he's like,
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"I'm just going under here now
just so you know,
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"just, can you just like
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"spread them a little bit
further apart."
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I'm like,
"You're such a good guy,"
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but we tended to avoid that
little grooming ritual
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just because it's too stressful
for me. [chuckles]
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The clitoris,
it's at the top I think,
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I feel a bit awkward
answering this.
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Woman: It's not just
the little bit that you see,
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it's a huge, great
big elaborate creature.
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- If we knew more
about the clitoris
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or talked more about it,
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like the fact that it's got
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50 times more nerve endings
than the penis,
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it's a lovely, sensitive,
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powerful piece of our anatomy
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that is really misunderstood
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'cause you don't see
visual representations of it.
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- It actually is pretty much
the same size as a penis.
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There's obviously the little
bulb, the little button,
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but then there are these
kind of extended parts
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that go into the body
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so we don't see it,
that's made of erectile tissue
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and when aroused,
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kind of engorges and grips
the vaginal wall.
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Woman: There's a fear
around the clitoris
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because most men don't know
where to find it
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and if they do, they don't know
what to do with it.
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- There is a lot of shame
still around about vaginas
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and the slut stuff.
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"She has this messy cunt,
it bleeds,
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"it isn't nice,
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"it must be kept under control
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"because also we know somewhere,
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"she can have a lot of pleasure
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"and we don't want women
to have that."
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I love to wank
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and I always have
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and hopefully I always will
until my dying day.
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Woman: My favourite time
for masturbating
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is when I'm in the bath.
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Woman: I just have to feel
completely relaxed
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and that's often just after
I've changed my bed sheets
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so it smells clean...
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Woman: I like feeling
the water all around my body
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and so my clitoris is kind of
there for the taking.
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Woman: I prefer to masturbate
first thing in the morning
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when I wake up or the evening
before I go to sleep.
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Woman: Outside in the woods.
The breeze, smell the flowers.
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Woman: I like to masturbate
in my bed.
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Woman: In my bed,
in my own space.
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Woman: Mid afternoon,
sunshine, nice weather.
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Woman: Candles on or lights.
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Woman: Good ambience.
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Woman: Plumps itself up
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and is kind of like,
"Come and play with me."
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Woman: The perfect way
to start or finish your day,
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sometimes twice a day.
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- I think there's a lot of shame
attached to self-pleasure,
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but actually,
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if you don't understand
what you like for yourself,
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how do you communicate
that to a partner?
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- I want to be really
frank with you
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because I really feel like
even though
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I'm finding this really hard,
I'm embarrassed by it
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and I'm worried about
who's going to see it,
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at the same time,
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I feel like those feelings
are wrong
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and that society's understanding
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of women and masturbating
is wrong.
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Woman: The average orgasm
for a woman
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is like up to 11 to 20 seconds,
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men, it's like five
or six seconds.
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[thunder rumbling]
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Woman: When it's on its way,
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it's kind of like you can hear
the thunder in the distance
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and you know it's getting closer
so it's not a surprise,
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I can feel it building.
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Woman: You get this sort of,
it's almost like sparking
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and electricity
like bouncing around.
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Woman: All of these neurons
and synapses
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making so many
different connections
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and the vulva itself is the hub.
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Well, look at the smile
as big as my face
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just talking about it.
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Woman: I'm role-playing
things in my head.
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Woman: My cunt goes slippery
and slidey and juicy.
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Suddenly the cells
will become on fire
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and I feel the run
down through the body
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and then it always,
for me it's the toes,
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it's in the toes,
it's like this...
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[makes explosion sound]
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You get this
involuntary bucking, you know,
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that right before
you're going to go
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and it's like oh...
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Woman: Your whole body
is pulsating.
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Woman: Everything's
clamping...
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Woman: A lot of colour and...
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- Often I go deaf.
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[cross-talking]
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Woman: It's almost
like an overload.
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It's beyond words.
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[moaning]
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It's just one.
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Woman: When you're like
wiping yourself
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and like you can see
like the colours.
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Woman: It can be painful...
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[cross-talking]
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Woman: ..but it doesn't smell
disgusting.
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Woman: My whole body
starts to feel heavy
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and exhausted.
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Woman: I feel
a contracting muscle...
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Woman: It feels like
a big punch in the stomach.
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Woman: Carnage. [laughs]
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Woman: Different textures.
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Woman: Sometimes it's like
a light red like fresh blood
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and other times, it's a darker,
more congealed blood.
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Woman: I was always grateful
that I was getting my period,
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I was always grateful
that it was coming.
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Woman: Hate them,
absolutely dread them.
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Woman: Almost like a feeling
of being turned on...
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Woman: I don't like
the feeling of tampons.
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Woman: I'm very happy
with my moon cup.
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which I now carry with me
all the time.
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- I think the worst
thing about having your period
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is the fact that
you can smell your period.
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And you're just sitting there
like,
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"Oh, my fucking god,
I've just come on my period."
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And the person next to me
can clearly smell my period,
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and then like a dog
sniffs you in the crotch...
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[dog barks]
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..and you're just like...
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- I think a tampon's
quite painful
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'cause I can remember
everybody in school saying,
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"Oh, oh, it feels like sex."
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I'm like,
"Well, if that feels like sex,
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"I'm never having sex."
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- Free bleeding is basically
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where you just decide
to not wear a tampon
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or a sanitary towel or anything
to stop the blood.
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Having your period
is totally normal,
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like it's something
that's really expected
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so why should I have
to feel so self-conscious?
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- In the Asian community
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there is a huge taboo
around periods generally.
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I remember being on a period
and going into the kitchen
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and I was told not to
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because my period
would spoil the food
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and I was really confused
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because my period's there,
the food's there,
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don't know how
it would spoil it.
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I got my period
when I was 12 on Christmas Eve.
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I got them when I was
nine years old.
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It was really exciting.
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Ran to the top of the step,
stairs and shouted,
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"I've started."
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I think like my knickers
were still round my ankles
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and I was like,
"Mum, Mum, I'm bleeding."
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My mother said,
"Oh, oh, I'm so sorry dear."
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And it was quite
a special time in my house.
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- I was 13 when I had
my first period.
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I remember feeling devastated.
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It was like well,
now there's no hope.
249
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I don't get on
with my vagina
250
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at that time of the month,
we're not friends.
251
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It gets quiet
252
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and then it gets angry
and then it does all the pain.
253
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When I'm in the middle
of my cycle,
254
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so I'm assuming
when I would be ovulating,
255
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it's quite a different story.
256
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It's much more interested
in sex, penetrative sex.
257
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- I tend to find I have kind of
two times of the month
258
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when I'm sort of
most interested.
259
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One is around about ovulation
which, you know,
260
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just biologically makes
complete sense
261
00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:24,870
'cause it's when
your body's going,
262
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"It's baby time."
263
00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:28,050
But I also have a time
264
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usually a couple of days
before I bleed as well
265
00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,460
and my hubby's always
a bit surprised
266
00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:32,670
'cause he's always a bit like,
267
00:12:32,770 --> 00:12:34,390
"Aren't you about
to have your period?"
268
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I'm like, "Yeah, and?"
[chuckles]
269
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And even just now and again,
270
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day three of bleeding
can be quite arousing.
271
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- Can you lie down
in this space?
272
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How do you want my legs?
273
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Just relax them to the side,
274
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just let them flop in a way
it feels comfortable.
275
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Looking very yoga'ey,
that's all good.
276
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There she is.
277
00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:07,150
God, it is so pretty, isn't it?
278
00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:13,980
My vulva looks and reminds me
of a pink cupcake
279
00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,940
because it's very pink and plump
280
00:13:18,050 --> 00:13:20,810
and where the labia
and clitoris are,
281
00:13:20,910 --> 00:13:24,840
it looks as though someone's
piped layers of pink icing.
282
00:13:26,290 --> 00:13:29,250
There's a little mole
to the left of my labia
283
00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,460
which reminds me
of a little chocolate chip
284
00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:34,180
that's just been popped
on the top of the cupcake.
285
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The penis is this knife
286
00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,740
that is cutting into the layers
of the rose velvet.
287
00:13:45,770 --> 00:13:50,290
It's kind of slicing through,
cutting up the cake
288
00:13:50,390 --> 00:13:53,940
which means it's sort of
almost disintegrating,
289
00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:56,810
it's not in its previous
solid form
290
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which I think plays on
my wanting to be ruined in a way
291
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,500
and sort of fucked up.
292
00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,530
And it ends up just being
this messy mixture at the end
293
00:14:07,630 --> 00:14:12,290
which is when I'm at my most
kind of shaky, in a good way,
294
00:14:12,390 --> 00:14:15,600
vulnerable state
because I'm completely done
295
00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:20,150
and wobbling and I'm just
a mess of rose velvet.
296
00:14:24,670 --> 00:14:30,630
- At 26, I met a skinhead
who absolutely ruined me.
297
00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:37,600
I had to go home the day after
and Google what just happened.
298
00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:41,430
He was the one that first
discovered that I could squirt,
299
00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:44,010
I didn't even think sex
like that was out there,
300
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,180
I always thought I had
really good sex.
301
00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320
A clitoral orgasm is different
from a penetrative orgasm
302
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is different from a squirt.
303
00:14:51,770 --> 00:14:53,080
[moaning]
304
00:14:53,180 --> 00:14:55,740
There was no going back
from that moment,
305
00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:59,010
then it was always
wanting to chase
306
00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,180
that kind of sex and the squirt.
307
00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:05,600
- The privilege of being allowed
308
00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:10,220
in or near someone's vagina,
it's...
309
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,630
She needs to be vulnerable,
310
00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:14,460
she needs to be accepting
of the situation,
311
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,810
but it's so intimate
312
00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:17,460
but it's more intimate
than anything else
313
00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,220
because you're going
inside somebody,
314
00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,670
Penetrative sex is...
That's an enormous deal,
315
00:15:23,770 --> 00:15:25,740
that's not a small thing.
316
00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:29,390
But we live in a society
that doesn't think that way,
317
00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:30,560
we live in a society
318
00:15:30,670 --> 00:15:34,670
that treats women entirely
like a cock pocket.
319
00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:40,630
OK, that's that done,
thank you very much.
320
00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:43,700
Yeah, if you could get into
a really relaxed position there.
321
00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:50,390
Brilliant, OK, cool.
322
00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:57,250
Wow.
323
00:15:58,430 --> 00:16:00,910
It's different to looking
in a mirror, isn't it?
324
00:16:01,010 --> 00:16:03,500
It is very different
from looking in the mirror.
325
00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,500
You can tell it picks up
the scars far more easily.
326
00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,770
How do you feel about it?
327
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,740
OK, it's not perfect,
328
00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,910
doesn't need to be, you know.
329
00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:20,460
I still really like it,
it does me,
330
00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,460
it does what I need it to do.
331
00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,430
I grew up in
a pretty rough town,
332
00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,050
you know, a lot
of violence going on
333
00:16:31,150 --> 00:16:32,770
and a lot of macho culture
going on,
334
00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:34,120
so at eight years old,
335
00:16:34,220 --> 00:16:35,430
I came to the realisation
336
00:16:35,530 --> 00:16:37,560
that while I was a boy,
337
00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:39,560
I should have been born a girl.
338
00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,600
My penis itself felt like,
very much like a foreign body,
339
00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:54,500
it was an alien object that was
attached to me for some reason.
340
00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,360
My vagina is just as sensitive
as the penis before it.
341
00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,180
My clitoris is made up
of essentially
342
00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:06,180
a section of the head
of the penis
343
00:17:06,290 --> 00:17:11,010
and, um yeah, it's awesome,
the sex is incredible.
344
00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,180
- My generation are realising
345
00:17:16,290 --> 00:17:18,530
that having a vagina
or having a penis
346
00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:20,870
doesn't necessarily
define your gender
347
00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:23,430
and it's much more about,
you know,
348
00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:25,180
how you identify
and how you feel
349
00:17:25,290 --> 00:17:26,810
and it's much more
personal choice.
350
00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:32,940
Like the label 'virgin'
I don't like.
351
00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:36,500
It's just you have had it
or you haven't had it.
352
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,910
- I told my mum,
353
00:17:39,010 --> 00:17:41,630
I actually sent her a text,
it literally just said,
354
00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:44,500
"So Mum, I've got something
to tell you,
355
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,460
"promise not to be mad,
356
00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,050
"but I just lost my virginity."
357
00:17:50,530 --> 00:17:54,220
And she took ages to respond
and she was like,
358
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,910
"I'm crying and I feel
very emotionally overwhelmed,
359
00:17:59,010 --> 00:18:03,500
"but I'm glad that you feel
that you trust me enough
360
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,940
"and can be open enough with me
to share that experience."
361
00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:13,290
- I was 15,
I was with my boyfriend
362
00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:16,430
and it was in his single bed.
363
00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:18,360
He's got like a cartoon duvet.
364
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,560
And it was over
within about 30 seconds,
365
00:18:21,670 --> 00:18:23,150
it was a few pumps and done
366
00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:24,630
because it was
his first time too
367
00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:26,560
and he was probably
super nervous
368
00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:30,390
and then we had sex
six more times on that sleepover
369
00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:32,810
'cause I was like,
"We've got to get good at this."
370
00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:38,910
- I'm 19, I'm still a virgin.
371
00:18:39,010 --> 00:18:41,050
My friends are quite mixed,
372
00:18:41,150 --> 00:18:43,360
a lot of them
still are virgins.
373
00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:46,050
I don't have a wish list,
374
00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:47,980
I don't want to set
375
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,010
my expectations of anything
too high
376
00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:53,250
and I just think,
if it happens, it happens.
377
00:18:54,290 --> 00:18:57,010
I think the young men
I slept with,
378
00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,460
or had done anything with,
379
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,770
had basically just an idea
380
00:19:00,870 --> 00:19:05,120
that there was one type of vulva
and one sort of uniform look
381
00:19:05,220 --> 00:19:08,980
as to how women look down there
382
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:13,770
and I think they had
a slightly warped idea
383
00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:18,120
of how they're meant
to be, like, treated.
384
00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:21,080
Obviously in a lot of sex,
385
00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:26,910
that you see in porn,
it's very hard, very intense,
386
00:19:27,010 --> 00:19:29,980
and especially when
you're a young teenager
387
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,360
and you're having your
first experiences with sex,
388
00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:34,390
some people might not want to
389
00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,390
go like hard and fast
the first few times,
390
00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:40,560
especially when you're like,
"What is this?"
391
00:19:48,050 --> 00:19:50,180
You don't really get taught
about the mechanics of sex,
392
00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:52,980
you just get taught about,
you know, how a child is made
393
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,980
through sex rather than
any sort of care or compassion
394
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,320
or respect for each other.
395
00:20:00,430 --> 00:20:04,740
So I think that yeah,
through watching porn like that,
396
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,840
I think a lot of
previous partners
397
00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,740
didn't really understand
398
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,010
that it was very much
a two way street
399
00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,150
and the myth
of the female orgasm
400
00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:15,810
wasn't even a consideration.
401
00:20:17,770 --> 00:20:19,600
- Porn is an enormous thing,
402
00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:20,980
there's amazing, beautiful,
403
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,050
artistic queer porn
that's happening
404
00:20:23,150 --> 00:20:26,740
and then there's stuff
which is clearly really abusive
405
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,810
and driving rape culture.
406
00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:32,500
[moaning]
407
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,220
The way in which you supposedly
make a woman come in porn
408
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,980
is definitely not,
409
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,500
well maybe some women,
but not for me anyway.
410
00:20:40,770 --> 00:20:43,220
- The women have been
so degraded
411
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,430
that it completely puts me off.
412
00:20:45,530 --> 00:20:47,530
Black women are pictured
as animals
413
00:20:47,630 --> 00:20:50,910
and it's quite degrading
in quite a racist way.
414
00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:54,220
Porn is very distorted
415
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,560
and it's reinforcing the idea
that your body as a woman
416
00:20:57,670 --> 00:20:59,500
is not enough
the way that it is,
417
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,250
that it needs to be changed.
418
00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,180
It made me feel like my vulva
wasn't normal
419
00:21:04,290 --> 00:21:08,120
in its shape
and in the pubic hairs
420
00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:10,560
and how...
Like I grew so much,
421
00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:12,220
like it was abnormal for me.
422
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,560
[moaning]
423
00:21:13,670 --> 00:21:17,630
- I find it difficult to feel
truly satisfied watching porn
424
00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:20,050
because I don't know
the circumstances
425
00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:22,360
and I want to check everyone,
particularly the women,
426
00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:24,080
I want to check that she's OK.
427
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,810
I do get off on watching
a couple having sex
428
00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:32,940
and then having sex with someone
myself at the same time.
429
00:21:33,050 --> 00:21:34,700
There's something
quite animalistic
430
00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:37,840
about not making eye contact
with each other,
431
00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:39,560
but just watching these two
432
00:21:39,670 --> 00:21:41,360
other essentially
animals fucking.
433
00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:45,120
[moaning]
434
00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:04,170
Narrator: I'm photographing
100 women's vulvas,
435
00:22:04,270 --> 00:22:05,550
including my own,
436
00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:07,580
to help us see our bodies
in a new way.
437
00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:11,370
When I started this project
438
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,650
I wasn't prepared for the amount
of pain and trauma
439
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:15,100
I'd hear about.
440
00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,680
- I was raised in an evangelical
Christian household,
441
00:22:23,790 --> 00:22:26,310
I just knew sex before marriage
was wrong
442
00:22:26,410 --> 00:22:28,270
and I was taught that
443
00:22:28,370 --> 00:22:30,580
if you want to be free from sin,
444
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,680
you don't even like open
the door,
445
00:22:32,790 --> 00:22:34,170
you don't put a toe in.
446
00:22:36,410 --> 00:22:39,890
- In Islam, the vagina
isn't really talked about.
447
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,340
There is still that stigma
of like dirty vagina
448
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,060
and that women should really
keep their legs closed.
449
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,030
- Growing up, I was completely
scared of my vagina
450
00:22:51,130 --> 00:22:54,790
when I thought about it
which was rare.
451
00:22:54,890 --> 00:23:01,480
It was a hugely scary portal
to trouble.
452
00:23:02,860 --> 00:23:04,960
- I went to an Islamic
boarding school,
453
00:23:05,060 --> 00:23:08,000
we had to wear the whole abaya,
454
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:11,720
niqab, like everything,
hijab, 24-7.
455
00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:14,100
Can't even have books
from the outside world,
456
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,130
there's no phones,
no TV, no music.
457
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,580
I was singing a song,
458
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,170
a random song by Beyonce,
459
00:23:20,270 --> 00:23:22,170
a roommate casually
came up to me and said,
460
00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:23,790
"You're going to hell for that."
461
00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:26,200
My first kind of big crush
462
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:28,480
was Ron Weasley
from Harry Potter,
463
00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:30,100
guilty as charged.
464
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480
And I remember having
a poster up of him
465
00:23:32,580 --> 00:23:35,720
When I was about 12
and I felt it was so wrong,
466
00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:39,270
I took it down because
I felt it was sinful.
467
00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:41,890
I didn't know what I was
shutting myself off from,
468
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440
but that door was firmly shut.
469
00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:49,170
There are some thoughts
and some papers
470
00:23:49,270 --> 00:23:52,240
suggesting that
a religious upbringing
471
00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:55,240
can have an effect
on vulvar health,
472
00:23:55,340 --> 00:23:57,200
particularly the pelvic floor,
473
00:23:57,310 --> 00:23:59,240
and, and like vaginismus
474
00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:01,240
and like the pelvic floor
just clenching up,
475
00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:06,370
as kind of like a psychogenic
response to that shame.
476
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,410
That it's literally
like your muscles go,
477
00:24:08,510 --> 00:24:12,200
"Right, OK then, no thank you
very much, not for us."
478
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:14,580
And sometimes women find that
479
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,030
when they try and strip
those barriers down,
480
00:24:17,130 --> 00:24:19,130
the muscles do not
get the message
481
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,130
and I think that was definitely
the case for me.
482
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,650
My longest relationship
was about two years
483
00:24:24,750 --> 00:24:29,100
and we never had
penetrative sex.
484
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,440
We tried once or twice
but it just wasn't happening.
485
00:24:33,550 --> 00:24:36,720
There was no way and it was also
extremely distressing as well,
486
00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:38,650
so I couldn't keep trying
487
00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:43,170
because it was such
a horrible experience.
488
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,000
But things are better now.
489
00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:51,440
Err...
490
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,410
Sorry.
491
00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:59,820
Honestly I think I try
492
00:24:59,930 --> 00:25:01,620
not to think about
that time very much
493
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,240
because I'm feeling
so much more positive now
494
00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:09,100
than I was now that that
avenue has opened up to me.
495
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,060
But I really felt like my
quality of life was done for,
496
00:25:13,170 --> 00:25:15,060
really done for
497
00:25:15,170 --> 00:25:16,860
and that I wouldn't be loved,
498
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,060
I wouldn't be able
to be in a relationship,
499
00:25:19,170 --> 00:25:22,750
and that I wouldn't be able
to be accepted.
500
00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:27,790
Yeah, it was dire.
501
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,270
There were moments where
502
00:25:33,370 --> 00:25:35,580
I didn't know what
I was going to live for
503
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,340
and whether I wanted to.
504
00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:48,860
- My nickname is
The Vagina Woman
505
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,030
because I talk about vagina
every single day.
506
00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:55,550
As a sexual health nurse,
I talk about vaginas,
507
00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:57,820
it's like I'm talking about
cup of tea.
508
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,890
We talk about masturbations,
509
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,720
we talk about oral sex,
we talk about anal sex,
510
00:26:03,820 --> 00:26:05,650
we talk about fisting,
we talk about...
511
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:08,650
You name it, every single
thing that can go on
512
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:11,580
in a sexual health clinic,
we talk about it.
513
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,000
So the morning I had FGM,
514
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:24,750
it was like Christmas for me,
515
00:26:24,860 --> 00:26:28,720
imagine being seven years old
and having a massive party
516
00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:31,340
and where you know
there's a woman coming in
517
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,890
to do your henna,
518
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,170
there's another woman there
to do your hair.
519
00:26:35,270 --> 00:26:36,680
It was amazing
520
00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:39,340
and that's the first time
I actually got a watch,
521
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,030
so every time
I look at the watch,
522
00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:42,620
I do remember those days.
523
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:45,510
I felt the needle going in,
524
00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:49,100
after that, everything
just went quiet.
525
00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,240
And she looked at me
and said to me,
526
00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:55,000
"Now you are a woman."
527
00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:57,100
Once she left
528
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,750
and the local anaesthetic
was coming out of my system,
529
00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:04,100
I was burning and I remember
screaming and just crying.
530
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:09,060
We were very lucky
531
00:27:09,170 --> 00:27:12,680
because we had money
to afford local anaesthetic.
532
00:27:12,790 --> 00:27:14,060
There are girls being cut
533
00:27:14,170 --> 00:27:17,550
without any
medical assistance at all.
534
00:27:17,650 --> 00:27:22,310
My clitoris was removed
and labia minora, labia majora
535
00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:25,340
and they stitched it
all the way down
536
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,310
until they left me a little hole
537
00:27:27,410 --> 00:27:29,440
that is no bigger
than a matchstick.
538
00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:33,060
Producer: And you would
only always have
539
00:27:33,170 --> 00:27:36,170
one little hole to urinate
and menstruate through?
540
00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:37,270
Yeah.
541
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,000
I was in hospital because of FGM
542
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,960
from the age of 11
till I was 17 years old.
543
00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:48,960
My period
was accumulating inside
544
00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:50,680
and it wasn't coming out.
545
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:53,060
FGM took away my childhood.
546
00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:58,030
I was never that girl that was
playing outside with her friends
547
00:27:58,130 --> 00:28:00,790
or going to go to the cinema
with her friends
548
00:28:00,890 --> 00:28:02,650
'cause I was always in hospital.
549
00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:06,550
And it took away my chance
to be a mother.
550
00:28:06,650 --> 00:28:08,930
Now I would never know
what is it like
551
00:28:09,030 --> 00:28:10,790
to carry your own child.
552
00:28:14,130 --> 00:28:15,510
All of that was taken away
553
00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:18,790
to prove to my future husband
that I'm a virgin.
554
00:28:26,930 --> 00:28:30,060
We know there's a lot of excuses
of why FGM happens,
555
00:28:30,170 --> 00:28:33,240
but really FGM happens
to control a women's sexuality.
556
00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:36,060
They think cutting a woman's
clitoris and stitching her up
557
00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:38,370
will stop her sleeping around.
558
00:28:39,410 --> 00:28:40,960
Growing up to hear that,
559
00:28:41,060 --> 00:28:43,750
we didn't even thought
about pleasure.
560
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:45,440
But what was surprising for me
561
00:28:45,550 --> 00:28:47,620
was even though the clitoris
has been cut,
562
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,200
the rest of the clitoris
is actually inside,
563
00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:54,200
women don't realise that
actually the clitoris is inside,
564
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:56,960
there's, the nerve
is all around our vagina.
565
00:28:57,060 --> 00:29:00,060
So we just need to know
what works for us.
566
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,340
As a woman who had FGM,
567
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680
do I have a really nice
sex life?
568
00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:06,100
Yes, I do.
569
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,620
Do I have orgasm?
570
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,860
Yes, I do.
571
00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:21,130
I've got clients
that enjoy the smell.
572
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:23,510
They will be like,
573
00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:25,680
"Make sure you've worn
your knickers all day."
574
00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:30,000
My cunt's a bit fishy.
575
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,340
I'm going for it,
crushed strawberries and cream.
576
00:29:33,410 --> 00:29:35,170
That's what
my vagina smells like.
577
00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:37,370
Apparently my vagina
smells different
578
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,100
before I'm about
to get my period.
579
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Woman: If I have a lot
of sugar, a lot of dairy.
580
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,720
Woman: Slight smell
of [inaudible].
581
00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:45,680
Woman: That changes
the smell of my vagina.
582
00:29:45,790 --> 00:29:47,270
- There's a really big taboo
583
00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:49,240
around the word discharge.
People think,
584
00:29:49,340 --> 00:29:50,550
"Oh, that's disgusting",
585
00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:52,370
or, "Oh, I don't get
any discharge."
586
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,310
You do, we all do.
587
00:29:54,410 --> 00:29:56,060
Like it's nothing to be
embarrassed about.
588
00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:58,340
It changes throughout your life
and your cycle
589
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,060
and yes, I have discharge
and my vulva looks moist.
590
00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:04,620
I...so I still struggle
591
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,240
with the kind of more corporeal
aspects of,
592
00:30:06,340 --> 00:30:07,650
of that kind of thing,
593
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:11,550
I just feel like
it's the same
594
00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:14,100
with the hair and stuff,
like vaginas have a smell,
595
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,100
vaginas have hair,
it's a thing,
596
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,170
like that's something
that I'm still working on.
597
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:31,370
- I was born in Ireland in 1975,
598
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,820
so when I was growing up
599
00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:36,960
a lot of things around people,
600
00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:39,440
but particularly women,
were silenced.
601
00:30:39,550 --> 00:30:40,960
You were just left
with this kind of feeling
602
00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:43,820
of shame and misunderstanding.
603
00:30:48,650 --> 00:30:52,130
- My parents are really liberal,
open people,
604
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,510
they grew up in Brighton
605
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:57,550
like in the '60s and '70s,
like they're cool people,
606
00:30:57,650 --> 00:31:02,240
they always talked
about how sex
607
00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:05,580
was a really important
thing between two people,
608
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,550
not that it had to be
with one person forever,
609
00:31:08,650 --> 00:31:10,370
but just that the person
610
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,790
you were having sex with
had to...
611
00:31:11,890 --> 00:31:13,580
..they had to mean something
to you
612
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,240
and you had to have feelings
for them.
613
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480
- So at about like seven,
I was very, very switched on,
614
00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:37,750
I knew what I wanted to do,
I saved,
615
00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:41,440
I worked to make sure
that my life was ordered
616
00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:44,170
and then my world
was turned upside down
617
00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,480
in a very unpleasant way
618
00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:49,410
because I was raped
by someone I really trusted
619
00:31:49,510 --> 00:31:53,170
and that caused
a huge amount of chaos and upset
620
00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:57,650
which at that age I really
didn't know how to deal with.
621
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:59,240
And not being able
to talk about it
622
00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:01,890
meant no one else could help me
deal with it either,
623
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,100
so you were just kind of
left with that
624
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,580
not knowing what it is
625
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,060
and not really understanding
what's just happened.
626
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,890
So when I was 19
I was on holiday,
627
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,820
and I was raped
by the manager of the hotel
628
00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:29,170
that I was staying in.
629
00:32:32,790 --> 00:32:34,240
And then I came back
from the holiday
630
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:36,820
and I just sort of
brushed it under the carpet
631
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:39,170
as a, "OK, well that probably
wasn't a very good thing,
632
00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:40,860
"but just didn't think
about it."
633
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,000
And then as the years went by
634
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,960
it just...it...
I just started to realise
635
00:32:47,060 --> 00:32:49,270
that it was really affecting me
in so many ways,
636
00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:53,030
my confidence levels
just plummeted.
637
00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:57,000
When somebody's violated you
in that way
638
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,200
and just taken from you
in that way,
639
00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:05,580
your self-worth
is like I'm nothing.
640
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,310
It can make you
not want to be alive
641
00:33:08,410 --> 00:33:12,790
and that's how I felt for a long
time, just like well,
642
00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:17,000
"If I died it wouldn't make
any difference."
643
00:33:18,550 --> 00:33:21,370
I went from being
a super confident,
644
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,820
really happy young woman
wearing low cut tops,
645
00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:26,310
loved my boobs,
646
00:33:26,410 --> 00:33:27,860
I thought they were
the best thing ever
647
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,060
to suddenly hating
648
00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:35,100
anything that was sexual
about my body.
649
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,310
In all of the warnings
that were given as girls
650
00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:41,440
by our mothers and fathers,
651
00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:45,370
it's almost like you could
expect something like this
652
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,790
is going to happen
653
00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:48,510
and because you've been told
about it,
654
00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:51,200
it is almost like well,
then it is your fault.
655
00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:52,580
If I'd done something
differently,
656
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,790
if I'd not drunk,
657
00:33:53,890 --> 00:33:56,620
if I'd not said something
or done something
658
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,650
or been in a certain place
659
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:59,270
would it have turned out
differently?
660
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:01,860
Those questions that go round
and round in your head
661
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,620
are the...they're
the questions that ruin you.
662
00:34:06,170 --> 00:34:08,100
- You know,
what happens at such a young age
663
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,580
becomes such a part of you
664
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,510
that you sort of don't know who
you might have been without it.
665
00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:16,960
I just wish I could be normal,
666
00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:18,310
I just wish I knew
what it was like
667
00:34:18,410 --> 00:34:22,720
to just be able to enjoy sex
668
00:34:22,820 --> 00:34:24,370
and even just silly things,
669
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960
like I don't really like
watching films or TV programmes
670
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:30,860
'cause so many of them
have sexual assaults in them,
671
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,030
like everyone keeps saying,
672
00:34:32,130 --> 00:34:33,480
"Oh, have you watched
'The Handmaid's Tale'?"
673
00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:36,130
and I'm like I can't,
I can't, I can't watch it.
674
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:42,170
Understanding
how that feeling of violation
675
00:34:43,170 --> 00:34:44,890
must be turned around
676
00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:52,790
became something
that energised me to learn,
677
00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:58,720
to understand you can't fix it,
but you can kind of resolve it.
678
00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:06,550
I'm currently in a relationship
and the sex is great,
679
00:35:06,650 --> 00:35:08,750
I feel completely differently
about it,
680
00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:11,370
which is...oh,
just such a relief,
681
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,060
I just think it's so...
682
00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:16,550
I really was worried
that this was me forever,
683
00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:18,550
I was just
never going to enjoy sex
684
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:21,200
and I am at the moment
685
00:35:21,310 --> 00:35:24,440
and I can't begin to describe
how fantastic that is,
686
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:28,060
I feel like I'm normal again
and that's really nice.
687
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:31,000
I promised myself
688
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:37,790
that I wouldn't let the people
who raped me
689
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:41,240
take my present and my future.
690
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:19,390
- Like every orgasm
is different,
691
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:20,560
every birth is different.
692
00:36:20,670 --> 00:36:21,870
- I went in at the last minute
693
00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:24,120
'cause I didn't want, you know,
too much interference.
694
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:25,460
Every vulva's is different,
695
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,120
every baby that emerges
is different.
696
00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:28,430
- You have to sort of
concentrate and focus
697
00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:30,460
and nothing else
seems to matter.
698
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,870
- And I just did
what I was told.
699
00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:33,080
- And I was just throwing up
all the time,
700
00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:35,430
like, the whole birth
I was just pooed and threw up
701
00:36:35,530 --> 00:36:36,430
and pooed and threw up.
702
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:37,840
- You just carry on, don't you?
703
00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:40,940
- The first time
was really hard,
704
00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:43,500
and I tore
and I had stitches.
705
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,560
- I had a third-degree tear,
706
00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:47,670
I also had ventouse and forceps,
so I had quite a lot done.
707
00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:50,220
- I had an episiotomy
and forceps
708
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,600
and it was absolutely
horrendous.
709
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:57,050
- The tear went through the
muscle tissue around my anus.
710
00:36:57,150 --> 00:36:59,500
- And I feel angry that,
that happened.
711
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,740
- It took me probably 15 years
712
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,600
to get over
having Caesarean sections.
713
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,250
- When I was sewn up
I was sewn up incorrectly,
714
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,740
- I didn't feel
like a proper mother.
715
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,910
I couldn't even manage
to give birth to my children.
716
00:37:11,010 --> 00:37:11,910
- After he stitched me up
717
00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:13,980
I didn't feel the same
as before.
718
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,910
And I've never been able
to exactly pee straight down
719
00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:20,770
because my cunt
has been made wonky.
720
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:23,740
I was really sore
for a couple of weeks,
721
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,120
but you kind of don't care
722
00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:27,600
because you've got this
little snuffly bundle
723
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,250
that's just, you know,
really gorgeous.
724
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,840
You know, birthing can be such
an amazing thing
725
00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:37,320
within a world
that tries its best
726
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:41,320
to tell us it's the hardest and
the worst thing in the world.
727
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:43,320
- After the horror
of childbirth,
728
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:45,870
breastfeeding was a doddle.
729
00:37:45,980 --> 00:37:48,150
- You breastfeed, it makes
your womb contract harder.
730
00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:51,910
- Sucking, you could feel
the contraction in your uterus
731
00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:53,500
and of course in your cunt.
732
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,430
- And then you realise
that you're gushing down below
733
00:37:55,530 --> 00:37:58,360
and you're like,
"Is this OK, is this normal?"
734
00:37:58,460 --> 00:37:59,600
I'd have been really grateful
735
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,430
if I'd known
that was going to happen.
736
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:19,980
- I think when I was first told
737
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,700
that it was really unlikely
738
00:38:22,810 --> 00:38:26,220
that I would ever be able
to conceive,
739
00:38:27,010 --> 00:38:30,600
that massively made me question
740
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:34,180
my entire identity as a woman,
741
00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:38,120
what did womanhood even mean
if you couldn't have kids?
742
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:42,050
We are socialised
from a very young age
743
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:46,910
to believe that
we are entitled to a family,
744
00:38:47,010 --> 00:38:48,740
we're entitled to that...
745
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,250
that biological right
or capacity to conceive.
746
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,500
You have to find new ways
to explore womanhood.
747
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:05,560
- I'd wanted a child for
a long time with my partner
748
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:09,600
and was told that
it wasn't going to be possible
749
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:12,530
but then it was possible
750
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:16,120
and got to the stage of seeing
the child's heartbeat.
751
00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:19,530
And then I was staying
with a friend
752
00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:24,180
and realised
I was having a miscarriage,
753
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:30,220
so I went into the hospital
and I went to the toilet to pee
754
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,910
and then the whole miscarriage
just came out.
755
00:39:33,010 --> 00:39:35,700
And I remember
looking in the loo
756
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:39,320
and thinking,
"That's my baby in the loo,"
757
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,460
so I put my hand down
758
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,500
to pick her up
and just held her.
759
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:56,940
And it was like a massive piece
of liver, dark, warm, bloody.
760
00:39:59,630 --> 00:40:01,150
There is a loss there,
761
00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:03,980
but it's taken me
to this age of 52
762
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,910
to be able to say
it's not the end of the world.
763
00:40:17,050 --> 00:40:19,630
- I'd been bleeding for
a few weeks in between periods
764
00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:23,290
and a lot after sex
with my boyfriend at the time
765
00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:26,120
and he said, "Is it because
my dick's too big?"
766
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:31,980
So when the doctor said,
"You've got cervical cancer,"
767
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,010
it felt like a ton
of paving slabs
768
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,050
had just been thrown
onto my chest
769
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:42,770
and I just thought,
"I'm 24, like I'm not..."
770
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:45,150
I haven't even
had a smear test yet
771
00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:48,770
and I'm being told
that I've got cancer.
772
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,320
I had my cervix removed,
773
00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:54,700
the surrounding kind of
tissue area
774
00:40:54,810 --> 00:40:56,530
and the top third of my vagina.
775
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:58,360
There's a lot of kind of stigma
776
00:40:58,460 --> 00:41:00,320
around having a gynaecological
disease,
777
00:41:00,430 --> 00:41:02,840
like somebody at my old job
when I was leaving to go
778
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:05,770
and have the operation said,
779
00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:07,120
"What kind of cancer
have you got?"
780
00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:08,320
and I said, "Cervical."
781
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:10,250
And she said, "Well,
how do you get that?"
782
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,500
And like you wouldn't ask
the same
783
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,700
if I'd said breast,
bowel or brain.
784
00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:16,180
When it's something
in between your legs,
785
00:41:16,290 --> 00:41:17,220
there's this assumption
786
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,120
that you've done something
wrong as a woman,
787
00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:21,810
there's a lot of judgement
and inaccuracy.
788
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:24,910
It's medically inaccurate
that you have to have, you know,
789
00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:27,940
slept with a lot of people
to have a gynae problem.
790
00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,870
There is this stigma
around gynae health,
791
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:34,390
which means that some women
will not be as lucky as I was.
792
00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:40,940
- When I was really little
793
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:43,220
and I didn't understand
about what bodies were
794
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,530
and gender was,
795
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:46,810
I honestly thought
I would grow up to be a boy.
796
00:41:46,910 --> 00:41:49,290
I just thought
that's just how it was,
797
00:41:49,390 --> 00:41:52,390
some people changed
and I didn't...
798
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,120
maybe I didn't even think
that I was going to change,
799
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:55,670
maybe I thought
I already was a boy.
800
00:41:58,910 --> 00:42:05,320
I don't really see myself
as male or female,
801
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:09,500
I understand
that my physical body is female,
802
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,250
but myself,
excluding the skin sack,
803
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,530
is much more neutral.
804
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:19,080
I have elements of masculine
and feminine,
805
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,530
I think everybody does really,
806
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:22,290
but I feel that mine
are very balanced,
807
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:25,390
and I sit somewhere sort of
very cleanly in the middle
808
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,120
though it fluctuates a fair bit
809
00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:30,150
so, non-binary is
a shorthand way of saying that.
810
00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:33,630
The moment that I understood
what non-binary meant,
811
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:36,220
or gender-neutral is the term
I was using at the time,
812
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,290
it was honest to God, like,
I was flooded with light,
813
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:42,870
I felt so alive
and so connected
814
00:42:42,980 --> 00:42:44,910
and so calm and centred
815
00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:49,010
and it was just like finally,
I make sense.
816
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,840
Alright, fine, I've done it,
can I turn it off?
817
00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:53,500
Cool.
818
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,940
Off.
819
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,290
Go away.
820
00:42:59,390 --> 00:43:01,460
My vagina is what it is
821
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,940
and there's nothing
I can do about that
822
00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:05,390
and I don't think I'd want to,
823
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:07,500
it takes up a lot of head space.
824
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,120
I'm very aware of it
at all times,
825
00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:12,360
never goes away.
826
00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:15,390
- Bring your knees a bit.
827
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,010
Just let your legs relax
to the sides,
828
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,980
just get comfortable. Ready?
829
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,080
- Mm-hm.
- OK.
830
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,870
That's great. OK, one more.
Fantastic.
831
00:43:27,460 --> 00:43:30,980
Oh wow, gorgeous.
832
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080
That's really lovely.
833
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,150
- I can't wait for menopause,
834
00:43:36,250 --> 00:43:38,290
I want my period
to be over with,
835
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:39,980
I want it gone.
836
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,740
Let the bleeding stop.
837
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,740
I'm just about to have
a hot flush,
838
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,050
I'm sorry, guys.
839
00:43:48,910 --> 00:43:51,290
- I never had
any of that stuff about,
840
00:43:51,390 --> 00:43:54,560
"Oh, you're going to be
a dried up old woman."
841
00:43:57,010 --> 00:44:01,290
I kept getting wet
when I was having sex.
842
00:44:01,390 --> 00:44:03,250
I'm 70, I was 70 in May
843
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,560
and I still enjoy sex.
844
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:10,250
I'm more dry than I used to be,
so I use a lubricant.
845
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,500
A little bit of spit, you know,
solves that little problem.
846
00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:24,530
- I didn't stop desiring sex,
847
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:29,530
I didn't stop wanting orgasms,
848
00:44:29,630 --> 00:44:32,560
really your life goes
in different waves,
849
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,010
up and down,
850
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,120
you want sex
or you don't want sex,
851
00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:38,810
I didn't want sex
after I had my kids
852
00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:44,530
but after menopause
I then thought to myself,
853
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:49,320
"Honey, you're on your own,
make the most of it," and I did.
854
00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:54,630
Narrator: I wanted to bring
the reality of our bodies
855
00:44:54,740 --> 00:44:56,980
and the truth of our experiences
into the open.
856
00:44:58,770 --> 00:45:01,560
I've now photographed
100 vulvas up close,
857
00:45:02,980 --> 00:45:07,150
it's been transformative
and looking at them altogether,
858
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:08,770
none of us are the same,
859
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:11,740
we're not all neat,
pink and perfect.
860
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,460
I think a lot of people
have this really solid idea
861
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,250
of what a vagina
should look like
862
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,430
and if everyone
just kind of dropped that
863
00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:24,810
and knew that there were
loads of different vaginas
864
00:45:24,910 --> 00:45:28,320
then I think vaginas
would be a lot happier.
865
00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:33,770
What if women did a sexual
Brexit and took back control
866
00:45:34,810 --> 00:45:37,360
and then said to men,
867
00:45:37,460 --> 00:45:39,360
"You're only allowed near it
if you know what you're doing,"
868
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:42,630
and we set up
a kind of driver's licence?
869
00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:45,600
I think it would be useful.
870
00:45:47,940 --> 00:45:49,010
Narrator: This part
of ourselves
871
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,600
which we're so conditioned
to conceal
872
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:54,460
actually defines so much
of our lives as women
873
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,940
and our most intimate
experiences,
874
00:45:57,050 --> 00:46:01,010
pleasurable and painful,
shouldn't be treated as taboo,
875
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,120
but as a testament
to our strength.
67889
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