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We're asking that there be
no restrictions
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on the contents of speech,
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and that's an enormous
amount of freedom.
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I'm confident that the students
will exercise their freedom
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with the same responsibility they've
shown in winning their freedom.
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APPLAUSE
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{\an8}Yeah! Fuck free speech, bitches!
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♪ School's out for summer... ♪
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You need to get out.
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{\an8}You are being racist.
You are being offensive.
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{\an8}Some of the words
now forbidden at Stanford.
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There has been a flurry
of loud and angry debate
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about what can be said
and what ideas can be expressed.
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I want you to be offended
every single day on this campus...
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...and then you'll learn
how to speak back.
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Charlie Kirk
drew an enthusiastic crowd.
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Charlie Kirk was shot
on a college campus.
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{\an8}I've been saying we need to
bring back political assassinations.
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{\an8}I don't feel bad.
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{\an8}And I don't think that everyone
deserves the right to free speech.
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Fuck you!
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You're a fucking Nazi.
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Get the fuck off campus!
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- No fascist USA!
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The time has come to reclaim our
once great educational institutions
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from the radical Left.
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The government's response
to this problem has been Orwellian.
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Donald Trump is trying
to silence academic freedom.
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I will sign an executive order
to begin eliminating
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the Federal Department of Education.
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♪ School's out completely! ♪
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When I started this film,
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the loudest coverage of campus
stories came from one direction.
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Time now to look at some of the
craziness on our nation's campuses.
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It's clear the far-left
only wants their voice heard.
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Poison Ivy takes a deep dive into
the wokeness of Ivy League schools.
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People told me these blow-ups
were just conservative spin -
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clickbait, manufactured outrage
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and, sure, right-wing media
feasts on this stuff.
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They love it.
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But what I saw wasn't
a few isolated incidents.
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It was a pattern,
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targeting real people,
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damaging reputations,
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destroying careers,
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ruining lives.
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And as these stories piled up,
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you could feel
the pressure building -
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the pendulum picking up speed.
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Because ideas that start on campus
don't stay there.
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They migrate outward
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into bureaucracy, politics and law.
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Can you provide a definition
for the word "woman"?
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{\an8}- I can't.
- You can't?
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{\an8}Not in this context.
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{\an8}I'm not a biologist.
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The question now being asked
in the halls of power
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had been taking shape on campus
for years.
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And that's where this part of
the story begins -
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with gender and sex.
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♪ Let's talk about sex, baby
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♪ Let's talk about you and me... ♪
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I think what really focused
my interest
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on trying to understand
the evolutionary
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and hormonal sources of
sex differences in humans
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was my experience out in Uganda
studying chimpanzees,
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because it was just so clear,
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watching the chimps every day
and being with them every day,
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the sex differences they showed
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and the high levels of aggression
in the males
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and their sort of obsession
with sex and status,
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that has obvious parallels
to what we see in humans.
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So that's really
what sparked my interest.
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♪ Let's talk about sex... ♪
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In the human evolutionary
biology department,
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I got students from
all different majors,
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but I especially had students
from Women, Gender and Sexuality -
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a course that
really challenged the idea
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that sex differences
have anything to do with
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evolution or biology at all.
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You know, the idea is that they're
cultural and it's the patriarchy,
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and I always appreciated
their input.
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But what started to happen
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is I noticed people were becoming
much more sensitive
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about the language
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and offended by my use of accurate
and clear scientific terms.
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I had been quoted in an article,
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and it was an investigation of
what's happening in medical schools,
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where medical school professors
were backing away
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from using terms like "pregnant
women", and "male" and "female",
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in response to pressure
from medical school students.
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One med student in California
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claiming her classmates
shame and police professors
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for "wrong speak" -
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for using words like - hold your
ears - "male" and "female".
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And I commented
in the article saying,
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you know, these are
our future doctors.
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We should really just be sticking
to teaching them about medicine
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and using whatever language
we need to.
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So, Fox and Friends asked me
to comment on that.
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{\an8}The ideology seems to be that
biology really isn't as important
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{\an8}as how somebody feels about
themselves or feels their sex to be.
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{\an8}This kind of ideology
has been infiltrating science.
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Sex is a biological category.
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It's a reproductive category.
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It is at the centre of what I do -
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my area of expertise,
all of my research, right?
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{\an8}Do we make eggs, you know,
big sex cells,
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{\an8}or little sex cells - sperm?
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{\an8}And that's how we know whether
somebody is male or female.
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What's powerful and interesting
about that is that's it -
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there are no other traits
that uniformly,
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discretely, cleanly,
differentiate males and females.
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And then I said,
as a fact of nature,
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it really has no implications
for who we are as humans
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in terms of our gender identity.
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{\an8}You know, we can treat people
with respect
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{\an8}and respect their gender identities
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{\an8}and, you know,
use their preferred pronouns...
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It's really just about the gametes.
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And then sort of everything else
is on a spectrum.
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{\an8}It's very confusing when professors
like me, or lecturers like me,
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start backing away from
certain terms
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that they're afraid people
will find offensive.
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And...
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...I'll just say all hell broke loose
after that interview.
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"As the Director of the Diversity
and Inclusion Taskforce
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"for my department at
Harvard Evolutionary Biology,
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"I am appalled and frustrated
by the transphobic
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"and harmful remarks made by
a member of my department
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"in this interview
with Fox and Friends."
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So, I felt very panicked
that the director
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of our DEI committee
went on to Twitter,
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and this went out all over
the, you know, Twitterverse, right?
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"You are actually implicitly denying
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"that trans men
are men who can get pregnant."
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And I felt...
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...like the ground shake under me.
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I mean, this was... I was scared.
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Suddenly I'm transphobic and
I'm called transphobic by someone
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who looks like they're speaking
on behalf of Harvard.
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So I retweeted her tweet
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and I wrote something like,
"I appreciate your concerns.
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"Could you let me and
the Twitterverse know exactly
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"what I said that
you consider transphobic
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"or harmful to undergrads?
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"I think you know that I care deeply
about all of my students,
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"and I also care about science."
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Her reply -
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"It is transphobic to imply
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"that gender inclusive language
limits medical education."
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"Quite the contrary.
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"It expands education
to match our human reality."
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So what happened from there
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was mostly she was dumped on
for attacking me.
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And the narrative that developed
was that I retweeted her tweet,
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which was taken
as an aggressive move on my part,
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where I was punching down to use
my power to harm her, essentially.
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This was big gossip and news
at Harvard.
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My reputation now was trashed.
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And it was picked up by newspapers
from Australia to the UK,
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in the States. It got a huge amount
of coverage.
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And now I'm just this transphobe
at Harvard
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because I said something
which should not be controversial
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in an evolutionary
biology department,
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to say that there are two sexes.
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I grew up with the same idea
that there were only two sexes.
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You know, the stuff you learned
in biology class.
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This one has a penis. It's a boy!
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This one has a vulva.
It's a girl!
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Over time, the conversation shifted.
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In the '80s and '90s, gender studies
separated sex - the biological -
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and gender - how you live, act
and identify in the world.
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The way your body looks on the
outside is only part of the story.
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THEY GASP
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Then came queer theory
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and it blew up the whole idea
of fixed categories.
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Online, that vocabulary exploded.
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For many who didn't fit
the old categories,
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it was liberating.
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Finally, words that fit their lives.
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Then the argument moved again
from gender back to biology.
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Some biologists now argue
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that biological sex
isn't a clean binary either -
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that anatomy, chromosomes
and hormones vary.
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Sex is a spectrum.
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The more you look,
the more complex it gets.
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Binary is bullshit.
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Some push it even further, saying
there are up to four or five sexes.
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To many, that's a bridge too far.
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What the hell is wrong with you?!
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It's a threat to medicine, sports,
safety and law.
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And the debate isn't just academic.
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It's moved into politics,
media and the streets.
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- Out of the closet!
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- Into the streets!
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♪ Woman hear me roar
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♪ In numbers too big to ignore
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♪ And I know too much
to go back and pretend... ♪
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SHOUTING
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Kathleen Stock
has attracted protests
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over her views
on gender identification.
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She is a professor of philosophy
at Sussex University...
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...who's been accused
of being transphobic.
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Kathleen Stock
doesn't believe it's possible
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for a person to change
their biological sex.
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...that a trans woman isn't a woman.
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A trans woman is a trans woman.
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Kathleen Stock drew me to the UK
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because she was another professor
being shut out from campuses
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with accusations of transphobia.
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Every time I was announced
as a speaker
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at a different institution,
there would be a protest
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and there'd be some kind of attempt
to stop the event.
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♪ I am invincible... ♪
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{\an8}She is a married lesbian professor,
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{\an8}and all she states is that women's
spaces should be women's spaces.
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It just became extremely difficult
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cos they would have to get in
extra security at my talks.
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Students at the University of Oxford
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have demanded that
the feminist academic Kathleen Stock
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be no-platformed
from its debating society...
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Free speech
is now actually problematic,
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and if you try
and defend free speech,
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well, what kind of sinister opinions
are you really arguing for?
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Protect trans people!
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We don't think
she should speak here,
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because her views are part of
a broader hate campaign
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and moral panic that's really
damaging the lives of trans people.
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-
- We're fighting for our lives!
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Amongst those protestors
was Riz Possnett,
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who silently glued their hand
to the floor.
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♪ I am woman
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♪ I am a woman... ♪
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When it comes to, like, what should
be protected as free speech,
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everyone draws their line
somewhere, right?
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{\an8}The reason that I felt
that Kathleen Stock surpassed that
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{\an8}is because I think she plays
such an integral part
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to the way in which transphobia
in the UK
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has massively risen
over the past few years.
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Kathleen became a flash point
in the UK,
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a philosopher asking
difficult questions about law,
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gender and identity,
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at a time when many believe
those questions caused harm.
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I was mostly interested
in intervening in a political arena
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because in the UK at the time,
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we already had laws which allowed
people to change their legal sex,
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but they had certain safeguards
built into the process.
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Like, you needed two doctors to give
you a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.
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You needed to live
as the opposite sex for a year.
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In 2018, most of
the political parties
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were in favour of this new policy
called Self-ID.
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Basically, if you identify
as the opposite sex,
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you should be able
to change your sex legally.
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And, whether or not
you've changed your sex legally,
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you should also be able to access
whatever spaces and resources
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are traditionally connected
to the opposite sex.
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No hormones! No lipstick!
No going under the knife!
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You even get to keep your nuts!
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It's easy peasy.
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Go online - click, click, click.
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Now I'm a bird.
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Much of the opposition to the
introduction of Self-ID in the UK
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was about this idea that it was
getting rid of all of these things
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that made sure people
were actually trans,
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and actually, anyone could
walk in and say,
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"I'm a penguin
and you have to recognise me now."
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In reality, the processes you had
to go through in the UK
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in order to have
your gender identity recognised
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without Self-ID
were deeply pathologizing.
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It's contributing to this idea
that transness, or gender dysphoria,
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is like some sort of
mental disorder, right?
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A, you can't trust them,
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and B, you have to diagnose them
in some sense.
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I started writing blog posts
and I just raised a few questions -
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"There's this law change
that's being proposed.
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"Don't you think we should be
talking about it?
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"Do you think we should question
whether trans women are women?"
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I didn't say either way,
but I said I'm a philosopher.
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I've trained for this -
I've got the arguments.
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There are no voices that I can see
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coming out of philosophy departments
saying "There's some problems here."
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There was plenty of voices
coming out of philosophy departments
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saying, "This is brilliant."
You know?
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"Trans women are women.
Get over it."
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I think the reason that I find it
harmful in this sense to say,
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"Trans women are not women,
they are trans women",
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is it creates a subcategory.
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It, like,
literally segregates them out.
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Not being recognised
with the right identity
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so they can't get
bank accounts properly,
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they can't register for housing,
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they can't get rents,
they can't get mortgages,
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all of these things, because they're
not recognised within the system -
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that is a massive component
of the reasons
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that trans people face
so much discrimination
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and so much transphobia
in their lives.
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The set of ideas that were
being pushed that I rejected
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was the idea that everyone's
got a gender identity -
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it's a feeling inside you, basically.
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A male - a biological male
who has penis, testicles,
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you know, the usual,
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can strongly feel
that they are female,
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or that they want to be female,
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or that they should be female
or something,
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and that's their female
gender identity.
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Only you can know
your gender identity.
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No-one else can tell you what it is,
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and as soon as it emerges,
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as soon as you express it,
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you have to be affirmed.
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What's the real world impact?
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Well, there's sports -
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there's fairly obvious consequences.
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Letting you on the sports team
that fits with your gender identity.
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Also, more importantly,
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you have to say, "Yes, come into
the ladies' changing rooms.
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"Come into the rape crisis shelter.
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"Come into
the domestic violence shelter.
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"You're a woman now."
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There are women in
domestic violence shelters
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being forced to share a dormitory
with a male who says he's a woman,
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because the policy of the shelter
is that he is a woman,
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and if you complain, you're
transphobic and you need to leave.
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We've got issues,
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ethical issues, at least
to be explored.
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Even if you think I'm wrong,
you know,
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you would think, "Well,
we should maybe talk about this."
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But we were also being told,
"No debate."
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As soon as you raise any problems
about this, you are transphobic.
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-
- Trans rights now!
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I get why this subject
is so charged.
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It's deeply personal -
about people's lives,
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bodies, their sense of who they are.
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Trans people aren't going anywhere!
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But I thought universities existed
to test ideas,
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even uncomfortable ones.
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And when questioning ideas
becomes off limits,
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what happens to the pursuit
of truth?
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At Harvard, I felt so lucky
to be at a place
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that valued veritas - truth -
more than anything.
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Veritas, which is inscribed in stone
all over the campus
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and in the shield.
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So, when things started to change,
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that value - veritas -
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started to somehow be overshadowed
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by the messages coming through
the growing DEI infrastructure,
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not only down from
the administration,
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but also up
from a lot of the students.
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Then we started to get messages
about how important it is
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to protect people from offence.
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This idea to keep our students safe
and that ideas can harm,
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and that knowledge itself
can be harmful.
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And so, according to the director
of our DEI committee,
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not only was I transphobic
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because I said
that sex is not a belief,
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it's a physical property
of your body,
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but she was saying
it's specifically harmful
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to the students in our department.
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What is ironic
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is that I was that person
who sort of made the department
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feel like home and safe, you know,
for our students,
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because they would come to me
often when
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going through problems associated
with things like gender identity.
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Dr Hooven is
an incredible professor.
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At the heart of her love
for endocrinology
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is so clearly her care
for the wellbeing of people
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with all kinds of differences -
in sex development,
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gender identities and sexualities.
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I don't know what to say
outside the fact
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that Carole was one of
the only professors I've had
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who genuinely cared about...
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...what I'm going to do in the world
and wanted more than anything...
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Sorry.
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...and wanted more than anything
to teach us about the world
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and ourselves and... to make us
better off.
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I had assumed,
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"Of course the administration is
going to have my back and protect me
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"and my right to make statements
about my area of expertise."
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That was so stupid and naive of me.
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Instead, my department chair
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and the chair of
the other biology department
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wrote a letter with
a team of administrators,
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including a DEI person,
that I begged not to be sent out.
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"Dear colleagues,
science has always created conflicts
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"with people's social,
political and religious views.
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"At its best,
science has pushed against..."
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"..ancient orthodoxies
to open broader vistas
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"on our place in nature
and in the universe."
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SHE MOCK GAGS
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OK. "Recently, tensions have
increased within our community
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"and in some cases shifted
to an important discussion
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"about the intersection of science,
communication and language use.
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"In our role as chairs,
we should always strive
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"to be responsive
to the varied concerns..."
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"..but must also balance the needs
of the entire community
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"and our shared values
of open dialogue."
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That sentence right there
is anti-academic freedom.
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It's saying that,
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OK, you might have your views,
but you've got to consider
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how they're going to land on people
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in a way that should...
Maybe you shouldn't express them.
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It was not the intent of
the committee
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to cause damage
to Dr Hooven's reputation.
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It wasn't our intent to, like, fuck
her over for the rest of her life.
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We simply wanted to point out
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that she shouldn't have said
what she said,
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because it might have hurt others.
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"We apologise"!
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That email was sent out,
which only made things worse for me.
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I literally was walking around
with my head down.
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I was afraid
that people would recognise me
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and think that I am that transphobe
or something.
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I felt totally isolated.
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I felt so betrayed and let down
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and just disoriented.
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And ultimately I was unable to teach
my course in the spring
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because no graduate student would
agree to be my teaching assistant,
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and I lost the...
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Any hope for being able
to ever do my job
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the way that I knew
I needed to do it,
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which is to tell the truth,
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and I knew that what had happened
to me was scaring other people -
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other faculty members -
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and they started modifying
what they taught and researched
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in response to these fears
about how students would react.
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And I know that
because they told me.
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No individual felt
that it was worth it to them
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to be the one to go out on a limb
and stand up for somebody like me.
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Ultimately, I ended up getting a
lawyer and negotiated a retirement.
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So... It's so hard.
It's hard every day
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cos they're still right there.
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Academic freedom might be
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held up as a value
that Harvard supports,
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but in reality, in practice,
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we do not have true
academic freedom.
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We don't have
a culture of free speech.
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And that is because people know
what can happen to their reputation
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and their livelihood
if they express the wrong view.
439
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"Stock is desperate for attention.
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"Independently of her transphobia,
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"she has always
been a mediocre philosopher."
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The first kind of pushback
came from within philosophy.
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Some extremely aggressive pushback
that compared me to racists
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and said that I was basically
a bit like
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someone committing
indigenous genocide.
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These were from
philosophers, professors,
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and everyone - like, like, like,
tweet, tweet, tweet,
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read this, you know,
repost, repost, repost.
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So it just was spreading around.
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I was like...
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"But hang on...!" You know?
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I had not got the capacity
I thought to fight that.
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So a new post would come out,
I'd read it,
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I'd sort of go into some kind of
catatonic depression.
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I would lie on the floor,
like, crying my eyes out,
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and then about 3.00 in the morning,
I would wake up
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and go and write a response
to that blog post,
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and I would fire off, like,
rebuttal, rebuttal, rebuttal.
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Every point I would rebut,
press send,
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and I would feel relieved,
like I'd fought back.
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And then the next one
would come out.
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So that went on for a few months
463
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where I just basically felt
like I was under siege.
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This mass character assassination
was going on.
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So it was just like a free-for-all,
basically on campus... on my campus,
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in my department.
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People I knew, you know,
people I had hung out with...
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...were liking and retweeting
all these things.
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It was quite a... Quite a bad time.
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That was probably the worst time,
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cos I felt like philosophy
was... my home and my community.
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Turns out it wasn't.
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I had a lecture.
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It was 9.00 in the morning
and I was walking down the tunnel.
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It's like the main thoroughfare
into the campus,
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00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,559
and along every bit of this tunnel
477
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,959
were these big posters saying
"Fire Kathleen Stock.
478
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"Kathleen Stock is a transphobe.
479
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,240
"We're not paying our fees
to be taught by a transphobe."
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And then things obviously
escalated and escalated.
481
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Then these protests happened.
482
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-
- Kathleen Stock
is a transphobe!
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Kathleen Stock is a transphobe!
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Kathleen Stock is...
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- Stock out!
- Stock out!
- Stock out!
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They were letting off flares.
There was graffiti.
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And from then on, they said they
were basically going to come back
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every day... until I left.
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One thing I couldn't believe
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00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,679
is that my colleagues
in the philosophy department
491
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,559
just all acted
like it wasn't happening.
492
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,679
And I just thought,
493
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,959
perhaps they'll put out
a statement in defence of me,
494
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,719
just even my academic freedom to do
as I've done.
495
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,799
So I wrote and said, you know,
"There are masked men on campus
496
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:27,319
"with posters saying that
they want to get me fired or sacked.
497
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,559
"What more do you need to put out
a statement in my support?"
498
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,039
And they never answered.
499
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,240
So...
500
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,880
...nobody answered.
501
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,120
I'm not transphobic and they...
502
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,519
It's just...
503
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Sometimes just the wall of
misrepresentation just comes at you.
504
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,559
It was just like I was...
505
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,600
Sorry.
506
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,079
Sorry.
507
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,680
I don't want to cry on camera.
508
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,680
Anyway. It's fine.
509
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,199
It was like I was a contaminant.
510
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,320
So it felt.
511
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:19,959
And I just thought,
"I don't want to be here any more."
512
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,440
So I resigned, basically.
513
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,080
So...
514
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,239
Kathleen Stock is not going to be
515
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,079
coming back to the University
of Sussex as a professor.
516
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,799
Good fucking riddance.
517
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,239
This is a monumental victory
for trans and nonbinary students,
518
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,679
who have protested the ways
that this university
519
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,399
has enabled transphobia,
abuse and discrimination.
520
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,879
Fuck the national press media,
521
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,599
who happily collaborated
with the university and Stock
522
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,439
to turn this into a debate about
free speech and academic freedoms.
523
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,759
This has been a campaign
to get Stock out of Sussex,
524
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,399
and it fucking worked.
525
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,079
We acted as a community built
on solidarity and love.
526
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,239
And that's fucking powerful.
527
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,279
"Trans resistance
will always overcome.
528
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,120
"United. Never to be defeated."
529
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,400
Obviously, this all had a tremendous
effect on me psychologically.
530
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,759
But I do think people should know
the cost
531
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,959
that people face now, truly,
for just saying how they feel
532
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,560
or what their view is.
533
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,839
I questioned my existence,
my very existence,
534
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,279
and I've talked to a lot of people
who've experienced the same thing,
535
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,999
when you are socially ostracised
536
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,919
and when the kind of rug
is pulled out from under you,
537
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,359
and that is suicidal ideation.
538
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,680
I talked about suicide so much.
539
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,639
But... in front of my kid,
540
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,440
and I feel awful about that.
541
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,919
But I was...
542
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,479
I had to talk about it
cos it's all I could...
543
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,319
I thought about it constantly
544
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,999
and I wanted it to stop,
545
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,519
and I couldn't make it stop.
546
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,359
And I thought very hard
about meaning in life,
547
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:47,919
and what gives me more meaning now
is, like, talking about
548
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,639
the issues I'm talking about
549
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,639
and things have really crystallised,
550
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,359
because I didn't really know
how important free speech was to me.
551
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,199
I didn't really get what was
so great about democracy before,
552
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,639
and I never just paid
that much attention to it.
553
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,479
But I now really firmly believe
554
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,879
that each individual kid
is so important,
555
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,079
and all of their views
are so important
556
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,879
in learning and challenging
each other,
557
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,439
and that we should
respect everybody's different
558
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,199
perspectives and experiences.
559
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,119
And if we don't have free speech,
we don't have that,
560
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,320
and that's robbing individuals
of their right to be heard and seen.
561
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Just cut it.
562
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,919
Watching what happened to Carole,
Kathleen and all the others I met,
563
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,079
I kept waiting for institutions
to defend their free speech,
564
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,159
even a little.
565
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,039
Mostly, they didn't.
566
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,079
And as more people went quiet
out of fear,
567
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,719
the silence created a vacuum,
568
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,719
one conservative politicians
were quick to exploit.
569
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,359
And their first stop was Florida.
570
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Somehow, it's always Florida.
571
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,079
New College of Florida was founded
in the civil rights era
572
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,399
with a mission -
573
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,559
to become an institution
inclusive of students,
574
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,079
regardless of race, religion,
national origin, or cultural status.
575
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,439
♪ Welcome to America
576
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,159
♪ Where everything is made in China
577
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,679
♪ Where a girl can have a penis
and the boys can have vaginas
578
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,319
♪ Welcome to the home of the woke
We're going broke
579
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,479
♪ You'll get cancelled for
a joke by folks who voted for Joe
580
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,839
♪ Welcome to the Democratic USA
581
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,479
♪ You're homophobic and racist
if you ain't black or gay
582
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,959
♪ Where the Stars and the Stripes,
they go up in flames
583
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,439
♪ But every classroom in the country
has a rainbow flag... ♪
584
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,439
Now, despite that history,
or maybe because of it,
585
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,319
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis
has targeted the public
586
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,199
liberal arts honours college
as part of his "war on wokeism".
587
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,199
Florida is where woke goes to die!
588
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,919
{\an8}♪ You ain't gonna shut me up
589
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,639
{\an8}♪ I'll be saying what I want
at the top of my lungs
590
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,999
♪ You ain't gonna shut me up
591
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,399
{\an8}♪ You gonna hear what I say
till I'm six feet deep
592
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,959
{\an8}♪ You ain't gonna shut me up
593
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,359
{\an8}♪ You can hate all you want,
I got freedom of speech
594
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,600
{\an8}♪ And you ain't gonna shut me up! ♪
595
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,239
I heard about
a government-led shake-up
596
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,719
at a small liberal arts college
in Florida.
597
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,759
We have witnessed harrowing
incursions on academic freedom.
598
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,839
Focused on academic excellence
599
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,319
and not the imposition
of trendy ideologies.
600
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,119
When DeSantis took over the board
of trustees at New College,
601
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,759
he installed loyalists
like Christopher Rufo.
602
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,559
Rufo, who is vowing
to remove focuses
603
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,519
on race and gender
from the school's DNA.
604
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,279
Known for its quirky,
progressive culture,
605
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,559
New College suddenly became the new
front line in America's culture war.
606
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,359
New College is coming out
on a united front
607
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,279
because we love our school.
608
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,239
New College has a culture problem.
609
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,199
The three phrases that
most describe the culture here -
610
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,519
"politically correct",
611
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,599
"druggies",
612
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,720
"weirdos".
613
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,559
I think New College has a reputation
as a leftist bastion.
614
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,079
{\an8}A majority of our students
have identified as LGBTQIA,
615
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,199
and we do have
a fairly large percentage
616
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,719
of trans students on campus.
617
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:16,679
Unfortunately, New College's...
618
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,359
...comfort in being a place where
619
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,879
students who didn't fit in
could fit in
620
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,039
has led to this situation where we
seemed like we were the easy target.
621
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,119
Political leaders abdicated
their responsibility.
622
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,999
They delegated power
to left-wing activists,
623
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,759
academics and administrators.
624
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,440
They gave them the keys
and they ran the car into the ditch.
625
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,399
Meet Christopher Rufo,
626
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,439
the right's greatest
anti-anti-racist weapon.
627
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,519
In 2020,
as social justice initiatives
628
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,119
spread across institutions,
629
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,679
Rufo cast them as a threat
630
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,759
and identified critical race theory
as the cause.
631
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,319
It's absolutely astonishing
632
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,639
how critical race theory
has pervaded every institution
633
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,959
in the federal government.
634
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,039
Critical race theory, or CRT,
635
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,879
is a theory taught in law schools
636
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,159
that says racism
isn't just individual prejudice,
637
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,799
it's also systemic -
built into laws and institutions.
638
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,479
The problem isn't in the people.
The problem is in the institutions.
639
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,079
But Rufo wasn't interested
in the legal definition.
640
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,839
During Trump's first term,
641
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,999
he appeared on Fox with a message
for the president.
642
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,359
{\an8}"CRT is a Marxist ideology
threatening to destroy America..."
643
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,319
And I call on the president
to immediately issue
644
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,559
this executive order
and stamp out this destructive,
645
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,279
divisive, pseudoscientific ideology
at its root.
646
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,159
The next morning, the president's
chief of staff gave me a call
647
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,239
and said, "Hey, the president
watched you on Tucker.
648
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,439
"He agrees with you.
649
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,759
"He's instructed me to design
an executive order
650
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,559
"abolishing CRT from the federal
government. Can you help?"
651
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,439
President Trump
signed an executive order
652
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,399
to crack down on so-called
critical race theory.
653
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,239
So that's really
when the CRT movement
654
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,439
went from some reporting
I was doing,
655
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,319
some activism, some policy work,
656
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,800
to, you know, a national spectacle.
657
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,999
By branding all kinds of DEI
initiatives as critical race theory,
658
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,839
Rufo turned an academic theory
into a political weapon.
659
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,159
And the thing is, it fucking worked!
660
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,319
CRT - or crucially,
Rufo's definition of it -
661
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,839
was suddenly absolutely everywhere.
662
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,919
Within months, Republican-led states
weren't just banning CRT,
663
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,799
they were scrapping DEI trainings,
rewriting curricula
664
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,799
and eliminating mandatory
diversity statements,
665
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,719
and Rufo became the go-to strategist
666
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,239
for turning culture war outrage
into policy.
667
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,839
That caught the attention of
Florida's governor, Ron DeSantis...
668
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:50,559
We are also going to eliminate
all DEI and CRT bureaucracies.
669
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,479
...handing Rufo something
even more potent -
670
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,760
the machinery of state power.
671
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,679
Rufo and his conservative cohort
now have the power
672
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,599
to make immediate change...
673
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,759
Good morning. Today is a big day
674
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,439
in the history of
New College of Florida.
675
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,639
The trustees are meeting
in Sarasota.
676
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,239
I'll be joining them virtually.
677
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:14,639
Our task today is to select a
permanent president for the college.
678
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,119
...and their first order of business
was to fire New College's president.
679
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,039
- All in favour?
- Let her finish.
- Please...
680
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,239
- Let's let her finish.
- Please.
681
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:29,879
I do not believe that students are
being indoctrinated at New College.
682
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,839
♪ Hit the road, Jack
683
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,319
♪ And don't you come back no more,
no more... ♪
684
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,759
So this is the part of the meeting
where we have
685
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,039
a call for public comment...
686
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,319
I would like to remind all of us
687
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,679
that we are in a time that requires
a specific type of character.
688
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,679
One minute for each comment.
689
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,159
I am here to object to
the appointment of Richard Corcoran.
690
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,439
Corcoran banned books, distorted
history, including black history,
691
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,039
and attacked LGBTQ+ students.
692
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,559
He has demonstrated the unique
kind of character that we need.
693
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,999
Making our students feel unsafe,
694
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,199
vilifying diversity, equity
and inclusion,
695
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,359
repressing free speech
and academic freedom,
696
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,919
making me lose sleep every night.
697
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,399
Under Richard Corcoran's leadership,
698
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,159
we've engaged in this ambitious,
difficult and challenging process,
699
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,599
reinvigorating the institution.
700
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,999
What you're doing here
is not about education.
701
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,639
This is political theatre.
702
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,839
And this requires a character
that has strength...
703
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,839
I hold you responsible
for using college students
704
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,679
as political pawns
and unwilling subjects
705
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,119
in your great
educational experiment.
706
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,399
...that is willing to radically
shake up an institution.
707
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,559
So you can be a bull
in a China shop,
708
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Corcoran, shattering
academic freedom.
709
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:41,719
Your time is up.
710
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:47,359
It's the most draconian attack
on academic freedom in the nation!
711
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Richard Corcoran
has earned my confidence,
712
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,759
and for that reason,
I'll be supporting him
713
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,399
as the permanent president
of New College of Florida.
714
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,119
Richard Corcoran has a majority,
715
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,840
so Richard Corcoran will be the new
president of New College of Florida.
716
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,199
Finally, I want
to publicly shame our president,
717
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,119
who has shown nothing but apathy
and disregard for our student body,
718
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,519
our traditions, and to remind him
719
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,759
that he is not welcome
or wanted on this campus.
720
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,759
Fuck you, Richard Corcoran!
721
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,400
CHEERING
722
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,759
Please... Please have him removed.
723
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,999
You're out.
724
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,399
Officer, please take him out.
725
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,319
This is not a hostile takeover.
726
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,319
This is like, let's get back
to what was so wonderful.
727
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,799
It's clear as day
728
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,079
that the church that founded us
wanted to create a wonderful,
729
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,839
great free speech, civil discourse,
730
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,200
classical liberal arts institution.
731
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,239
{\an8}Activist professors and
administrators say very explicitly,
732
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,959
{\an8}"We want to turn the university
into a recruiting ground
733
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,999
{\an8}"for partisan activists,
to join the cause for BLM,
734
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,839
{\an8}"or for trans activism,
735
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,239
{\an8}"to participate in violent protests,
736
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:57,759
"to push, you know, pseudoscientific
and pseudo-academic disciplines
737
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,279
"like gender studies
as a great truth."
738
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,759
And this is really the first attempt
in American history
739
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,039
for conservatives
to fight back against this process
740
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,479
and demand that
the institution reflects
741
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,320
the political will
of the people of Florida.
742
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,479
{\an8}One of the items that I discussed
today with Governor DeSantis
743
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,999
and with legislators present
744
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,079
is that diversity, equity and
inclusion, which sounds great,
745
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,319
but in practice divides people
746
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,519
and offers separate judgments on
the basis of race and identity...
747
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,640
BOOING
748
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,479
My opinion does matter, actually,
unfortunately for you.
749
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,079
Could I ask the audience
to please offer...
750
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,439
My profession
has always been around diversity,
751
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,879
equity and inclusion work.
752
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,199
I've been working in
higher education for over 14 years,
753
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,279
creating an inclusive
campus environment
754
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,679
and enriching experiences
through programmes
755
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,639
and events and partnerships
that we can cultivate.
756
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,679
It's a dead end job
for a dead end ideology
757
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,079
that attracts dead end people.
758
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,279
What I'm trying to do
is create a more positive
759
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,759
and welcoming community,
760
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,199
where everyone feels like
they're being valued
761
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,839
and that they can be who they are
without judgment.
762
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,719
We became the first
public university
763
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,799
in the United States
to abolish its DEI department.
764
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,639
We fired the DEI director,
765
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,200
and it's been a smashing success.
766
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,719
You have a due diligence
as a board of trustees
767
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,479
to protect the institution
and those who are attending it.
768
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,119
How are you going to support them?
769
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,999
How are they going to feel like
they're a part of the institution
770
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,879
when you erase everybody of colour
from your executive team?
771
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,279
If we look at the board of trustees,
772
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,999
if we're looking at
who the leadership is now
773
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,720
at the table at New College,
what do they look like?
774
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,799
And that's divisiveness, not DEI.
775
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,239
I don't call it a culture war.
776
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:54,799
What do you call it?
777
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,799
I call it...
778
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,319
...white nationalism.
779
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,999
I call it racism.
780
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,840
I call it political erasure.
781
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,200
The changes at New College
move fast.
782
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,159
And it didn't start with textbooks.
783
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,479
Students had already been doing work
to get more bathrooms on campus
784
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,919
labelled as gender neutral
or unisex.
785
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,159
One of the things
that the new administration did
786
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,679
not long after they arrived
787
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,439
was literally rip the signs
off the wall.
788
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,879
Like, there were pictures of, like,
789
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,359
the paint missing
where the sign used to be.
790
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,999
{\an8}♪ Hit the road, Jack
791
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,519
{\an8}♪ And don't you come back
792
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,159
{\an8}♪ No more, no more
no, no, no more
793
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,079
♪ Hit the road, Jack... ♪
794
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,999
At the same time, a very cruel slate
795
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,439
of anti-trans bills went into effect
in Florida.
796
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,359
And one of them said that
trans people must use the bathroom
797
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,039
that matches their sex
assigned at birth.
798
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,599
♪ Oh, hit the road, Jack. ♪
799
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,759
So, the bathroom
that I've been using
800
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,319
in my workplace
for the last five years,
801
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,199
legally, I'm not supposed to use
that bathroom any more,
802
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,799
even though all of my legal
documentation lists me as male.
803
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,119
♪ Hit the road... ♪
804
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,639
If you believe
that a man can become a woman,
805
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,439
or if you believe
that a man can get pregnant
806
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,279
and give birth to a child,
807
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,439
what you're saying
is simply not true.
808
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,039
And if you're saying something
so obviously untrue,
809
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,079
that could be easily debunked
by anyone
810
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,519
over the age of maybe three or four,
811
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,479
you do not merit a place
in a scholarly institution.
812
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,959
I feel like the assumption
that's underneath that
813
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,279
is, like, if queer people
have a place
814
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,119
where they can be happy,
something is wrong.
815
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,879
We have not only the right,
but we have the obligation to say,
816
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,119
"I will not participate in this."
817
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,279
And that's why, for example,
I don't use they/them pronouns,
818
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,759
or ze/zir pronouns much less.
819
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,879
I'm currently under
820
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,559
a Department of Education
Civil Rights investigation,
821
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,999
following a complaint that
I did not use ze/zir pronouns
822
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,919
for the New College
of Florida's DEI director.
823
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,839
And I met her briefly
when I first became a trustee.
824
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,599
- Erm...
- You met zir.
825
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,919
I met... I met...
826
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,279
Yoleidy Rosario-Hernandez.
827
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,799
She was very sweet.
828
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,079
She was very nice.
829
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,639
I had a nice, er,
pleasant engagement with her.
830
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,519
- And people say, well...
- You just misgendered.
- Misgendered?
831
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,199
- Yeah. Misgendered, yeah.
- You just misgendered zir again.
832
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,879
A synonym for misgendering
is accurate sexing.
833
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,919
When we're looking at pronouns,
right,
834
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,079
it's very subjective to the person,
835
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:44,559
and for me and who I am and
what rings great to me is ze/zir,
836
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,879
as someone who identifies
as trans fluid
837
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,959
and has a really great adoration
838
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,159
for both feminine
and masculine energies, right?
839
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,559
As well as gender neutral energies.
840
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,359
I'm not going to use
ze/zir pronouns.
841
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,799
And you could say, well,
that's unnecessarily aggressive,
842
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,039
or that's, you know, not being kind,
nice, respectful,
843
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,799
empathetic, you know,
844
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,759
whatever therapeutic word
you want to insert there.
845
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,759
The reason I'm doing that
is because I want
846
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,599
New College of Florida
to be the kind of institution
847
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,839
that will not buckle to fads,
trends, ideologies.
848
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,319
And so we became
the first public university
849
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,279
in the United States to abolish
its gender studies programme.
850
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,719
And we did so unapologetically
851
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:31,079
because it was
the right thing to do.
852
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,639
Gender studies has been
a firm part of the mainstream
853
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,679
of American academics for 50 years.
854
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,719
This is not some fly-by-night
pseudo-discipline.
855
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,399
This is an interdisciplinary
area of study.
856
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,679
It combines science, social sciences
and humanities,
857
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,720
and it is recognised as central
to the American liberal arts.
858
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,399
In May, DeSantis visited New College
859
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,000
to sign three controversial
education bills.
860
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,999
Florida's new bills spelled out
what could and couldn't be taught.
861
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,239
Suddenly, it was conservatives
wanting safe spaces
862
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:15,199
from ideas they found harmful
and writing them into law.
863
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,399
Some of these niche subjects
like critical race theory,
864
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,519
other types of DEI-infused
courses and majors,
865
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,199
Florida's getting out of that game.
866
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,919
If you want to do things
like... gender ideology...
867
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,159
...go to Berkeley. Go to some of
these other places, that's fine!
868
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,759
APPLAUSE
869
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,119
Next to Governor DeSantis
was Christopher Rufo,
870
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,639
a conservative activist.
871
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,319
So when we arrived,
872
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,679
this was interpreted
by the kind of activists on campus
873
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,519
as a great affront.
874
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,199
-
- We are going to win
this fight!
875
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,039
{\an8}All of this shows Ron DeSantis
who New College is,
876
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,479
{\an8}and why we care about
what we care about.
877
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,479
I think we're louder in here
than they are out there.
878
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,599
All right.
879
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,159
And it was Trustee Rufo
who decided that,
880
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,199
instead of leaving campus
peacefully,
881
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,479
he was going to walk through
the crowd of protesters,
882
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,479
clearly as a stunt
and a way to provoke us.
883
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,279
This is a student
who is very excitable,
884
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,959
very passionate, very dedicated,
885
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,439
but she took it way over the line.
886
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,079
She was screaming at us...
887
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,199
..."Suck my tranny dick",
which was very artful
888
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,279
and anatomically incorrect,
as we found out.
889
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,439
I approached him, and as a form
of protest to show my disgust,
890
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,599
I spat towards the ground.
891
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,999
And it is alleged
that some of that spittle
892
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,399
may have landed on the toe
of Christopher Rufo's shoe.
893
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,919
She spat on me.
894
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,959
And, I mean, that's gross, right?
895
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,239
It's unsanitary,
it's disrespectful.
896
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:03,359
You know, this is kind of
protest politics. It happens.
897
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,439
It's not necessarily
the end of the world,
898
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,199
but one of the officers called me
899
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,199
and said, "Hey, look.
This is a crime.
900
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,359
"This is a first degree battery.
901
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,359
"This is a violent crime
under Florida law."
902
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,239
And when students cross that line
903
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:19,639
from free speech
to illegal violence,
904
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,679
there have to be consequences.
905
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,439
So, a deal was struck.
906
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:30,759
Rufo told my lawyer that
he would have the charges dropped
907
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,999
if I were to,
and this is how he put it,
908
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,200
"Leave and never come back."
909
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,760
Which...
910
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,359
...was devastating.
911
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,199
That, to me, was an adequate
resolution that established
912
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,719
a standard of civil discourse
913
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,639
but allowed this young woman
to go on with her life
914
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,600
and be successful elsewhere.
915
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,320
I was removed from campus as a form
of political retaliation...
916
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,240
...and it didn't stop with me.
917
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,199
We're going to create a foothold
at New College.
918
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,199
We're going to inspire
the next generation of academics,
919
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,799
the next generation of citizens,
920
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,039
and the next generation
of legislators,
921
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,879
who will look at this little,
small university on the beach
922
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,519
in Sarasota, Florida,
as the blueprint, as the model,
923
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,639
as something to be pursued,
not just in Florida but everywhere.
924
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,839
Well, there you go.
925
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,839
Rufo had laid out the battle plan
in detail -
926
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,639
abolish DEI,
reshape the curriculum
927
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,799
and use higher education
as a political weapon.
928
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,599
In the lead-up
to the 2024 election,
929
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,559
Trump was campaigning
with the same promise.
930
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,879
We're going to smash
the Marxist
931
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,439
diversity, equity and inclusion
bureaucracies.
932
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,159
I will also take historic action
to defeat
933
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,839
the toxic poison of gender ideology.
934
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,839
And this was where my film
was supposed to end, with a warning.
935
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,479
The campus culture war
had come full circle
936
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,519
and opened the door
to a hostile takeover...
937
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,639
The days of subsidising communist
indoctrination in our colleges
938
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,159
will soon be over.
939
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,399
...not with reform,
but with blunt force intervention
940
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,920
that didn't distinguish between
what was broken and what wasn't.
941
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,720
And then came a shock
that redrew the battle lines.
942
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,839
It began at dawn,
with Hamas militants
943
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,839
firing thousands of rockets
into Israel from Gaza.
944
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,079
October 7th changed everything.
945
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,319
Israelis woke up today
to find their worst nightmares
946
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,199
had come true.
947
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,039
A massive surprise attack.
948
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,919
Hamas using motorised paragliders
949
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,160
carrying heavily armed fighters
deep into Israeli territory.
950
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,479
It is not clear right now
951
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,639
how many Israelis
have been taken hostage by Hamas.
952
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,919
While Israelis were still
counting their dead
953
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,519
and families waited
for news of hostages,
954
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,240
a wave of Western campuses
were already blaming Israel.
955
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,199
Harvard in the hot seat now
956
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,199
after failing to swiftly respond
and denounce a letter posted by
957
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,479
a student-run Harvard Palestine
Solidarity Group...
958
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,199
The letter was co-signed
by 33 other student organisations.
959
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,519
...holding the Israeli regime
entirely responsible
960
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,640
for all unfolding violence.
961
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,879
For me, the shock wasn't just
what the students were saying.
962
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,240
It was the timing.
963
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,639
In the months that followed,
964
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,760
the human cost in Gaza
would be overwhelming.
965
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,559
But this was only one day after
Hamas's gruesome attack on Israelis,
966
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,959
and already across campuses,
967
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,200
it was being framed
as a reasonable form of resistance.
968
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,079
Do you guys remember
969
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,959
the photos of the bulldozer
breaking through the border?
970
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,119
- Yes!
- And the several other joyful
and powerful images
971
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,599
which came from the glorious
October 7th?
972
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Yes!
973
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,399
Images of the paragliders
Hamas used in the attack
974
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,039
were turned into campus poster art -
975
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,999
transformed into symbols
of liberation,
976
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,800
by any means necessary.
977
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,719
We are so horrible
for showing a paraglider?
978
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:01,999
What about their jets?
979
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,879
Israeli jets have killed thousands
980
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,559
and thousands of thousands of
Palestinians, but that's OK?
981
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,599
As this was playing out on campuses,
Christopher Rufo was watching.
982
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,439
Much has happened
since we first met,
983
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,239
especially in the field
of higher education.
984
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:21,919
The events of October 7th
in Israel and Gaza,
985
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,799
I think changed everything.
986
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,639
I think anyone with
even a meagre conscience
987
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,399
could see that this was
a barbaric act of terror,
988
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,159
savagery, butchery.
989
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,919
And it seemed like the only people
who could not immediately see that
990
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,199
were American academics.
991
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,880
They were able to breathe
for the first time in years!
992
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:50,319
It was exhilarating.
993
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,160
And if they weren't exhilarated...
994
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,679
...by this... this challenge
to the monopoly of violence,
995
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,439
by this shifting
of the balance of power,
996
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,519
then they would not be human.
997
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,719
I was exhilarated!
998
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:06,600
CHEERING
999
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,199
I've always believed in free speech,
1000
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,679
defended it, even when it was hard.
1001
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,079
But this felt personal.
1002
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,279
I'm Jewish and I have family
and friends in Israel,
1003
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,399
many who oppose
their own government's policies
1004
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,919
and sympathise
with Palestinian suffering.
1005
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,559
So watching a Cornell professor
1006
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,999
call the October 7th attacks
"exhilarating",
1007
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,039
"energising",
was hard to process.
1008
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,199
He wasn't some anonymous voice
online.
1009
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,719
He was a tenured
Ivy League professor
1010
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:39,679
who appeared to be celebrating
mass murder.
1011
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,360
I needed to know what was happening
on that campus...
1012
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,600
...so I headed to Cornell.
1013
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,759
A Cornell professor is under fire
1014
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,519
after he called the attack
on Israel "exhilarating".
1015
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,679
Russell Rickford spoke out at
a pro-Palestinian rally on Sunday.
1016
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,720
Listen to the absolute bile
coming out of this man's mouth.
1017
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,559
I saw Russell Rickford's speech
1018
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,719
because I was the speaker
who followed him at that rally.
1019
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,159
That speech talked about
the long history
1020
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,359
of Jewish and black resistance
and civil rights.
1021
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,199
It talked about the ways
in which that as a community
1022
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,199
that is fighting for justice
for everyone,
1023
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,439
we need to love each other
and support each other.
1024
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,799
Professor Rickford,
he made his comments,
1025
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,199
which I still maintain
were taken out of context.
1026
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,600
That became an international...
1027
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,399
Can I say shitstorm?
1028
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,599
I hope that people can go back
and read the transcript,
1029
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,599
because if anything,
that speech brought people together
1030
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,240
in a way that I have
never seen before.
1031
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,959
So I did go back
and watch the entire speech,
1032
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,239
but I didn't hear
the rally Bianca heard
1033
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,640
unifying a movement
for love and support.
1034
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,199
There was no room for Israelis,
Jewish or not,
1035
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,879
who wanted peace,
but also a country to call home.
1036
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,200
He was framing it all through
an anti-colonial lens.
1037
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,520
And through that lens,
Hamas was an anti-colonial force.
1038
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,319
And he came uncomfortably close
1039
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,720
to justifying the deliberate
targeting of civilians.
1040
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,199
Disturbing as I found it,
I knew it was his right to say it.
1041
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,559
Still, I kept thinking, what if
this man was teaching my kids?
1042
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,159
CHANTING
1043
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,279
It felt like an oversimplified lens
1044
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,199
projected onto a conflict
half a world away,
1045
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,400
and it shut down
any chance of conversation.
1046
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,919
People are complex,
1047
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,200
and this binary of oppressed
and not oppressed...
1048
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,959
...white or non-white,
is... ludicrous
1049
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,359
and against the very ideals
of nuance and understanding
1050
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,919
that progressivism
is supposed to be,
1051
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,320
or at least the way I thought
it was supposed to be.
1052
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,759
Campus protests against Israel's war
in Gaza are continuing
1053
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,839
to grow across the US.
1054
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,279
Cornell University
has joined the list.
1055
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,279
Dozens of students
from groups including
1056
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,559
the Coalition
for Mutual Liberation...
1057
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,239
...started a pro-Palestine
encampment.
1058
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,759
- Free, free...
- Palestine!
1059
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,279
I think for me, a university
is a key battleground amongst many.
1060
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,399
I think university's
a key battleground.
1061
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,159
I think the war of narratives,
the battle of ideas,
1062
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,599
which then go on
to shape public opinion,
1063
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,879
happens a lot
and is produced at universities.
1064
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,919
People who have been starved
by the colonial
1065
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,519
Zionist entity of Israel...
1066
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,479
We hope through our campaigns
1067
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,519
that other students
become more radicalised.
1068
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,039
The occupation's got to go!
1069
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,319
...cannot bring down people power!
1070
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,640
CHEERING
1071
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,239
There's growing
international pressure on Israel
1072
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,879
to halt the fighting.
1073
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,119
As diplomacy fails,
desperation in Gaza increases.
1074
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,239
Before we go further,
I need to say this plainly.
1075
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,039
October 7th was a massacre,
1076
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,199
and the scale of civilian death
in Gaza
1077
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,399
from Israel's military assault
is devastating.
1078
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,560
Both are true.
1079
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,879
So I understand protest,
1080
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,199
the need to stand up when
you're convinced something is wrong.
1081
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,439
But alongside the real grief
and outrage,
1082
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,959
I started to recognise
something else at work.
1083
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,559
This is the last fight, the last
fight of Western imperialism,
1084
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,199
and it's nearing collapse.
1085
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,199
It appeared on campuses
long before this conflict.
1086
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,679
It was about power -
who has it and who doesn't.
1087
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,039
Do you stand with
the elite institution,
1088
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,999
or do you stand
with the working people?
1089
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,199
CHEERING
1090
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,600
An ideology woven into the fabric
of education itself.
1091
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,399
{\an8}We actually need to crash
the US settler state.
1092
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,639
{\an8}The moment that you grab the gun,
you're no longer oppressed.
1093
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,279
{\an8}You're now free.
1094
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,479
How do we teach that in the class?
1095
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,119
The more I looked,
the more it felt familiar.
1096
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,319
The revolutionary politics
of the '60s and '70s
1097
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,799
back in circulation,
1098
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,920
like something pulled straight out
of an old campus archive.
1099
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,599
-
- Gaza, Gaza, don't you cry!
1100
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,079
Palestine will never die!
1101
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,719
I'm a PhD student in Africana.
1102
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,999
For those who know, Africana was
built out of an armed occupation.
1103
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,959
{\an8}In 1969, students demanding
an Africana study centre
1104
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,720
{\an8}occupied, with arms, Willard
Straight, demanding that right.
1105
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,559
I didn't know what Africana was.
1106
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,719
Turns out, it's what's often called
Black Studies,
1107
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,919
{\an8}a field born out of
the campus protests of the '60s,
1108
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,119
when black students
wanted their history reflected
1109
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,999
in an overwhelmingly
white curriculum.
1110
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,399
One of the most famous protests
happened here at Cornell.
1111
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,119
So, what drew me to Africana
is a long tradition of activism,
1112
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,239
a long tradition of taking up causes
1113
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,719
for those
who you believe are oppressed.
1114
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,799
Who is the oppressor?
Who is the oppressed?
1115
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,959
These were the same ideas that
I'd heard come up at Evergreen...
1116
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,319
The oppressor.
1117
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,559
- ...York...
- A lens of victimhood.
1118
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,719
...in conferences...
1119
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,479
We ain't just internally
colonised...
1120
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,519
...at Harvard...
1121
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,959
An oppression
of minoritized communities.
1122
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,360
...the same script adapted
to every college major.
1123
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,479
Mathematics has supported
1124
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,079
{\an8}white supremacist
capitalist patriarchy.
1125
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,999
Gender is a colonial imposition.
1126
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,559
And sometimes, it just lost me.
1127
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,479
Sort of the dimension of queerness
and feminism, insofar as
1128
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,639
Islam, homonationalism, pinkwashing.
1129
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,399
I think I've practically been
the only one to hold my classes
1130
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,559
in the encampment.
1131
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,959
On queer and feminist
Bipoc traditions
1132
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,039
from decolonial abolitionist
perspectives,
1133
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,119
that's what I was here
to teach.
1134
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,719
Colonialism as a structure...
1135
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,639
Once this critical social justice
ideology was launched,
1136
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,199
it pulled everything into its orbit -
1137
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,759
colonialism, queerness, patriarchy,
1138
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,759
white supremacy, climate change,
1139
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,679
{\an8}and now Zionism,
with Palestine at its symbolic core.
1140
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,679
People believe that
if you're pro-Israel,
1141
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,519
you're pro-oppressor,
and if you're pro-oppressor,
1142
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,679
you're pro-slavery,
you're pro, you know,
1143
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,879
like, stealing of indigenous land.
1144
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,399
Cornell's founding was enabled
in the course
1145
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,639
of a national genocide
1146
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,559
by the sale of almost one million
acres of stolen Indian land.
1147
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,719
And just as Native Americans
are the indigenous people of the US,
1148
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,959
Turtle Island,
1149
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,359
so Palestinians are the indigenous
people of Israel-Palestine.
1150
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:51,879
Professors are deeply problematic
at creating this hostile environment
1151
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,359
by not exposing their students
to a range of ideas
1152
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,159
and only pushing
one particular narrative.
1153
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,959
I think it's a diverse faculty,
1154
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:03,879
and so I don't think any single
professor can or should be bound
1155
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,599
to give all points of view.
1156
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,879
It doesn't unite.
It just pushes us apart,
1157
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,440
which is really sad.
1158
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,119
I approached Professor Rickford
at several rallies,
1159
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,840
but he declined an interview...
1160
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,879
...I assume, because his viral speech
1161
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,520
had already made him a target
for online threats.
1162
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,800
{\an8}Still, I wondered how much influence
professors like him...
1163
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,680
{\an8}...had on students like Momodou.
1164
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,079
The reason why I find myself
having affinity to Palestine
1165
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,359
is that my faith commands me
and instructs me to,
1166
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,839
like, stand for justice and always
side with those who are oppressed.
1167
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:24,399
Last week, we saw the honourable
Aaron Bushnell achieve martyrdom.
1168
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,839
He gave the greatest act of refusal.
1169
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,559
My name is Aaron Bushnell.
1170
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,800
I am an active duty member
Of the United States Air Force...
1171
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,880
...and I will no longer be complicit
in genocide.
1172
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,080
I'm about to engage
in an extreme act of protest.
1173
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,160
Hi, sir. Can I help you?
1174
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,160
Can I help you, sir?
1175
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,079
- Free Palestine.
- Hey. Hey!
- Free Palestine!
1176
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,439
Free Palestine!
1177
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,959
Man's on fire! Man's on fire!
1178
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,079
SCREAMING
Free Palestine!
1179
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,440
Get on the ground!
1180
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,559
He will carry on the torch
of protesting
1181
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,079
and fighting against
this imperialist system.
1182
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,199
I think what Aaron Bushnell
had done, for many of us,
1183
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,239
is a call to action.
1184
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:38,359
And as someone who's a Muslim,
martyrdom or dying in the way
1185
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:44,319
of a just cause is very much
a weighty, lofty and rewarded thing.
1186
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,999
So I was trying to make
the connection between
1187
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,080
Aaron Bushnell, martyrdom and Islam.
1188
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,759
Absolutely not, but I think the fact
1189
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,880
that he has got that desperate
says something.
1190
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,399
Yeah, I mean, it's not... Again,
I see... When I read his posts,
1191
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,559
this is someone who has a clear
mind, who knows what they're doing,
1192
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,199
and I think it's unfair to say
he was a mad man or...
1193
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,959
Because he was very lucid
and his will was quite clear,
1194
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,639
why he's doing what he's doing.
1195
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,519
Again, that's not, for me, a tactic
that ever should be, like, promoted,
1196
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,199
but for me, it's not about
focusing on the act itself,
1197
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,439
but rather what it represents.
1198
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,840
He gave the greatest act of refusal.
1199
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,679
He engaged
in the greatest act of protest,
1200
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,839
and the bare minimum we can do
to honour his legacy
1201
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,680
is to say, "Not in our name."
1202
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,279
Protest has always been part
of campus life,
1203
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,959
but praising self-immolation
as the greatest form of protest
1204
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,239
isn't what I expected to hear
on an Ivy League campus.
1205
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,520
And it left no room for dialogue.
1206
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,719
I was walking outside my class
and there was an installation
1207
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,719
of about 100 white flags
on the ground,
1208
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,599
scattered in a circle, and I walk up
and I found two women,
1209
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,879
and I said, what is this?
1210
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,719
And they said, "Oh,
it's a memorial to commemorate
1211
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,279
"the lives lost
in the genocides of Congo,
1212
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,999
"Palestine and other places."
1213
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,999
And I said, "What about those
who were brutally killed in Israel
1214
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,599
"on October 7th by Hamas?"
1215
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,399
And they said, "Well,
we actually have a rabbi,
1216
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:20,719
"Jewish representatives coming,
1217
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,759
"and they are represented
in these flags."
1218
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,879
And I said, "Well, that's..."
Like, I said, "Thank you.
1219
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,639
"That's exactly what we need.
We need to stand together.
1220
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,719
"We need people to see
a rabbi standing next to an imam."
1221
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,160
So, we had a conversation that was
fairly heated and emotional...
1222
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,479
...for 45 minutes
with two Arab women.
1223
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,319
We each cried at one point,
we exchanged numbers,
1224
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,999
and at one point they asked me,
"Well, then why are you here?"
1225
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,599
And I said, "Well, I'm here
because I'm a proud Zionist,
1226
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,839
"and what it means to me to be
a Zionist is to push my country
1227
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,839
"to continue being better.
1228
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,679
"And I want to stand with you, and
I want to understand what I can do."
1229
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,639
And Mamadou overheard me say
I was a proud Zionist,
1230
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:16,879
and he immediately came over.
1231
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,719
And at this point,
he said, "You said you're a Zionist?
1232
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,479
"You're the reason we're all here."
You're the reason they're all dead.
1233
01:08:23,480 --> 01:08:24,799
"You're a racist country."
1234
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,679
And then he turns to everyone around
and he says, "Here, everyone,
1235
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,319
"you know what? This girl,
she's a proud Zionist.
1236
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,120
"She's a racist and that's how
we're going to know her."
1237
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,319
And I was like...
I was just dumbfounded.
1238
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,119
And he said at one point he said,
"You're disrupting us
1239
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,359
"with your Zionism." And I looked
at the two women I was speaking to
1240
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,279
and I said,
"Have I been disruptive to you?"
1241
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,759
And they both said, "No, Momodou,
stop." He didn't stop berating me,
1242
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,319
and then at that point,
I turned to him and I said,
1243
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,119
"This is the problem that we have,
1244
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,679
"that people like you are so angry
that we can't
1245
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,439
even have a proper discourse
in this country."
1246
01:09:00,440 --> 01:09:01,839
There should be dialogue.
1247
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,519
I'm just not that person.
1248
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:08,119
I understand the call for nuance,
I really do, but I don't understand
1249
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,599
why there's a call for nuance
when we believe it is racism.
1250
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,519
I would not two-sides racism,
I won't two-sides homophobia.
1251
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,999
I want two-sides white supremacy.
So I don't...
1252
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,559
I'm a bit confused at this call
for two-sidesing of the issue.
1253
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,999
The Zionists are losing ground.
They are cowards.
1254
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,359
They are scared and our global
movement is growing daily.
1255
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:33,839
{\an8}I have seen chat posts
that detail Zionism being fascism,
1256
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,279
{\an8}Zionism is the same thing
as being a Nazi,
1257
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,599
and honestly, it's no surprise
to why half the student body,
1258
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,599
if not more, hates Zionists.
1259
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,759
It's because they don't know
what it means to be a Zionist.
1260
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,399
I think Zionism is white supremacy.
1261
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,119
I think Zionism is a form of racism
and the settler colonial entity,
1262
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:58,319
and I think no amount of conflating
with Judaism as a religion
1263
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,879
is going to make me change my mind.
1264
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,519
Zionism isn't an ugly word.
1265
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,479
It's just been twisted to be that.
1266
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:08,239
And it was the idea that Jews have
the right to their own homeland,
1267
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,879
their own state, and it's not
intended to preclude
1268
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,039
the idea that there should be
a Palestinian state,
1269
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,399
and I think that's probably
the most important thing
1270
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,000
that gets lost in translation.
1271
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,239
- Rick.
- Yeah.
- I just forwarded you
an email
1272
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,719
that I just got from a professor.
1273
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,679
I guess word got out
that we've been on campus.
1274
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,759
- Check it out.
- OK. Oh, my God.
1275
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,479
The following was posted by the camp
today, the encampments, right?
1276
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:44,519
Perhaps you've seen it.
1277
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,479
"Update on documentary crew.
Please wear masks.
1278
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:50,959
"The director, who is a Zionist,
is on site.
1279
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,599
"Be wary of
what you are saying around them
1280
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,799
"and guard yourself
from a potentially unfriendly crew."
1281
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,839
I mean, are you kidding?
Zionist has become a dirty word.
1282
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,599
- So...
- Why do they think
you're a Zionist?
- I don't know.
1283
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,479
I think we should speak to Zionists
1284
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:05,999
and I think we should speak
to anti-Zionists.
1285
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,720
Well, we're doing that, I think.
1286
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,919
Last time I spoke with the encampment
crowd, they were open to talking,
1287
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,599
but something changed.
1288
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,319
{\an8}I think it's conditional when just
Garfield and whoever is, like,
1289
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,279
{\an8}filming or doing audio
to do the interview.
1290
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,999
The only thing is that
Ric is the director.
1291
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,159
So would it be OK
1292
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,759
if it was just Ric
and the camera person instead of me?
1293
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,999
- I don't think so.
- Can I ask you something?
1294
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,479
- Sure.
- We got an email.
"Update on documentary crew,
1295
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:34,679
"and the director, who is a
Zionist, is on site. Be wary of
1296
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,399
"what you're saying around them
and guard yourself."
1297
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,799
Is that what this is coming from?
1298
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,279
I think like in terms of
our discussions with Zionists
1299
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,199
and how Zionists have been
towards the movement,
1300
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,919
they haven't been engaging in
dialogue that has been productive.
1301
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,480
{\an8}What does Zionist means to you that
implies that it would not be fair?
1302
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,439
But you can still believe
that there could be
1303
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:03,279
a state of Israel
and care about Palestinian rights
1304
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,999
and the need for Palestinians
to have a homeland?
1305
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,119
Mm-hm. No, that's a very fair point.
1306
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,519
That's honestly not something
I've heard too much,
1307
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,079
because a lot of Zionists on campus
have been very...
1308
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,559
...not open to discussion,
1309
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:21,159
and I think, like, that's
what a lot of people are wary of.
1310
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,799
Once I was labelled a Zionist
without ever being asked
1311
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,079
what I believe, the conversation
was over.
1312
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,799
The Zionists will fall
1313
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,799
and I can't wait to see all of you
in the liberated Palestine.
1314
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:38,120
Israel will fall, Israel will fall.
Israel will fall!
1315
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,759
I imagined how I would feel
if I was a Jewish student right now,
1316
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,639
walking to class through these
protests and hearing these slogans.
1317
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,639
-
- Free, free, Palestine!
1318
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,999
Free, free Palestine!
1319
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,119
This one's easy -
a call for freedom.
1320
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,199
No problem standing with that.
1321
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,639
But on campuses around the world,
the chants didn't stop there.
1322
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,079
{\an8}From the river to the sea!
1323
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,159
Palestine will be free!
1324
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,119
{\an8}From the river to the sea!
1325
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,759
Palestine will be free!
1326
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:11,399
This one's harder. Some hear it
as a call for Palestinian liberation.
1327
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,080
Others hear it
as a call to erase Israel.
1328
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,719
For me, "Globalise the intifada"
lands like a threat -
1329
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,959
and I heard that fear
from students too.
1330
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,279
I couldn't help wondering -
why not "Ceasefire now",
1331
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,839
"Peace for everyone,"
"Two states for two peoples"?
1332
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,199
As someone who speaks Arabic,
it's important
1333
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,759
that intifada comes from
the root word "nafada",
1334
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,719
which means just like
the breaking off of chains, right?
1335
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,599
So I think that language
first and foremost,
1336
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,279
again, is also rooted
in, like, an Islamic-phobia,
1337
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:53,759
Islamophobia, also rooted
1338
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,959
in the painting the Muslim
as the other,
1339
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,719
painting Arabic-sounding words
as the other, painting...
1340
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,679
{\an8}Like, there's almost a fear
around that, right?
1341
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,439
{\an8}Intifada, intifada!
1342
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:06,639
Sure, the word intifada
might have poetic roots,
1343
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,319
but in modern history,
it's tied to uprisings
1344
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:13,639
in the West Bank and Gaza
and the targeting of Israelis.
1345
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,399
That's the association
the word carries for me -
1346
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,520
not because of Islamophobia,
but because of history.
1347
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,199
So when people chant
"Globalise the intifada",
1348
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,720
what exactly do they mean?
1349
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,999
{\an8}The moment you start chanting,
"There's only one solution,
1350
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,079
{\an8}"Intifada revolution,"
which is a genocidal chant,
1351
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,399
I'm sorry, your intentions are not
for dialogue or to speak your mind.
1352
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,159
Your intentions are to cause
violence and to hate people.
1353
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:43,919
Go back to Europe.
1354
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,319
- You're from Europe.
- I'm
a New Yorker.
- You're from Europe.
1355
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,360
I'm a New Yorker.
1356
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,519
My mother survived Auschwitz
in Poland.
1357
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,639
My grandparents were murdered there,
so no thanks.
1358
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,399
I'm not going back.
1359
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,719
But if I were a student hearing that
on campus...
1360
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,039
Zionists, they're Nazis.
1361
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,359
...it wouldn't feel
especially inclusive.
1362
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:13,479
{\an8}They're Nazis. They're fascists.
They're supporters of genocide.
1363
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:15,679
Someone, in the chat, right now,
1364
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,319
should people who are supporters
of genocide,
1365
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:24,359
should Zionists - aka Nazis,
white supremacists -
1366
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,560
should they live?
1367
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,960
Should they live?
1368
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,559
If you say something
about black people,
1369
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,559
gay people, disabled people,
whomever it may be,
1370
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,839
you'll probably get kicked out
of our school,
1371
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,119
suspended, cancelled,
whatever it may be.
1372
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,240
What I'm seeing is just...
1373
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,759
...there is a defence
of everyone's rights
1374
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,919
but Jewish people's rights.
1375
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,799
I'd say that as a trans person,
I've been very lucky.
1376
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,359
Cornell is a very accepting place.
1377
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,039
I've had much more difficulty
1378
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,879
being Jewish
than I have being trans.
1379
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,759
There's absolutely a double standard
when it comes to
1380
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:13,879
who has the free speech rights
to voice their opinions.
1381
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,079
And when it comes from
the hyper progressive left,
1382
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,280
there's a free pass
to say whatever you want.
1383
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,599
Ms Magill, at Penn, does calling
for the genocide of Jews
1384
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,879
violate Penn's rules
or code of conduct,
1385
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,079
- yes or no?
- If it...
If the speech...
- Yes or no.
1386
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,919
If the speech becomes conduct,
it can be harassment, yes.
1387
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,960
Conduct meaning
committing the act of genocide?
1388
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,959
{\an8}This was a turning point.
1389
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,319
{\an8}For years, conservatives
had been circling,
1390
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,279
waiting for an opening.
1391
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,799
Now, they had one -
1392
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,119
{\an8}a chance to expose how
higher education embraced...
1393
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,439
The ideology of the radical left.
1394
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,679
{\an8}Illiberal sewers of intolerance
and bigotry.
1395
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,120
On your campuses.
1396
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,159
Their first assault was in
the political theatre of Congress,
1397
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,879
designed for viral clips.
1398
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,239
Dr Gay, a Harvard student calling
1399
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,239
for the mass murder of
African-Americans is not protected
1400
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,479
free speech at Harvard, correct?
1401
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:23,720
- Our commitment to free speech...
- It's a yes or no question.
1402
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,199
You have university presidents
in the hot seat
1403
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,599
and then the congressmen
and congresswomen up on the dais,
1404
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,799
and they're grilling people
trying to get a kind of viral clip.
1405
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,039
That's how the game is played.
1406
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,599
I will ask you one more time -
1407
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,199
does calling for
the genocide of Jews
1408
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,479
violate Harvard's rules of
bullying and harassment?
1409
01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:47,159
Yes or no?
1410
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,639
It can be, depending on the context.
1411
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,120
It depends on the context.
1412
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,439
And you've got to think like,
what is this per...
1413
01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:00,639
What is she thinking? I mean,
this is like such a softball,
1414
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,839
such a slam dunk.
1415
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,279
{\an8}The damage was done.
1416
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,999
{\an8}Universities claim to defend
free speech,
1417
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,279
{\an8}but their evasions seemed to reveal
a glaring double standard.
1418
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:11,639
What's the context?
1419
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,879
{\an8}Stefanik and her party now had
an arsenal of stories like Bret's,
1420
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,359
{\an8}Erec's, Zack's, Lee's and Carole's,
1421
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,599
to use as examples of
the universities' intolerance.
1422
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,919
In the end, it was
the institutions' failure to uphold
1423
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:31,319
{\an8}the very principles they preached
that exposed a damaging hypocrisy.
1424
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,199
{\an8}It's in the exercise of our freedom
to speak
1425
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,399
that we reveal the character
of our institution.
1426
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,799
Our university rejects
the harassment
1427
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,519
or intimidation of individuals
based on their beliefs.
1428
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,119
No, they don't.
They explicitly do not do that.
1429
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,439
This is offensive to me
because it's not true.
1430
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:52,919
It's just not true.
1431
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,159
She was one person who could have
defended my right
1432
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,760
to express my views, and so this is
just empty. Very empty to me.
1433
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:07,119
And our university embraces
a commitment to free expression.
1434
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,799
- "That commitment extends..."
- ...even to views
1435
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:14,919
that many of us find objectionable,
even outrageous, even outrageous.
1436
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:15,999
In my case,
1437
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,079
it didn't even extend to views
that almost everyone agrees with,
1438
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,079
which are totally obvious.
1439
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,799
That is why I became the poster
child for Harvard's hypocrisy.
1440
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,759
Carole Hooven,
an evolutionary biologist,
1441
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,799
was forced to resign
because she stated
1442
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,879
that a person's sex is biological
and binary.
1443
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,599
And so President Gay,
1444
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:43,600
in what world is a call for violence
against Jews protected speech...
1445
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,479
...but a belief that sex
is biological and binary isn't?
1446
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:50,479
This is why I've called
for your resignation.
1447
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:53,240
These are unacceptable answers
across the board.
1448
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,879
{\an8}This was so shocking that I think
it really cut through the noise,
1449
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:03,239
and seeing this anti-Semitism
on campus laid bare,
1450
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,279
and then understanding it
within the framework
1451
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,679
of left-wing decolonisation theory,
1452
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,039
I think, connected the dots
for a lot of people who,
1453
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,159
you know, previously might have felt
that something was off,
1454
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,559
but it was not quite clear,
and then they couldn't
1455
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,239
attach it to the ideology.
1456
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:23,879
I think that illusion
has been now dispelled.
1457
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,559
{\an8}While anti-Semitism on campus
is real,
1458
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,959
{\an8}here, it was being exploited
to score points.
1459
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,079
{\an8}And the hearings worked.
1460
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,639
{\an8}"It depends on the context" became
the clip that ended careers
1461
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,599
and attracted conservative activists
like moths to a flame.
1462
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,239
I'm actually at Harvard Yard
right now,
1463
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,039
where we have our mobile billboard,
1464
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,119
along with two U-Haul
moving trucks -
1465
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,359
because after all, it's moving day
for Claudine Gay.
1466
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,959
Hey, guys, what do you think about
Claudine Gay resigning from Harvard?
1467
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,479
Adam Guillette, known for
his confrontational tactics,
1468
01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:58,159
came looking for outrage
and found it.
1469
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,999
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you,
Fuck you.
1470
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,399
Well, you're cool.
You're just walking around.
1471
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,679
You guys are fucking sick.
You're a fucking disgusting,
1472
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,319
just gross, little man.
1473
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,919
So, you don't think
the moving trucks are a good idea,
1474
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,879
or should we have gone with Ryder
rather than U-Haul?
1475
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,919
"Should we have gone with Ryder?"
Get a real fucking job,
1476
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,479
you fucking prick. How about that,
1477
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:19,599
you Zionist fucking
disgusting bitch?
1478
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,759
I hate y'all, dude.
I fucking hate y'all.
1479
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,079
Claudine Gay wasn't the first,
and she wouldn't be the last.
1480
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:30,199
Under pressure from Congress,
alumni, donors and the media,
1481
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,520
a string of university presidents
were compelled to resign.
1482
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,919
{\an8}But on campuses,
the protests dragged on for months -
1483
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,520
occupied halls, disrupted classes.
1484
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,160
The lines had blurred
between protest and threat...
1485
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:54,119
...dissent and disruption,
legitimate criticism of Israel
1486
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,240
and anti-Semitism.
1487
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:02,959
A conflict thousands of miles away
divided campuses into battlefields.
1488
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,519
And now Trump,
hot on the campaign trail,
1489
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,280
had a new rallying cry
for his war on higher education.
1490
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,839
{\an8}To every college president, I say,
remove the encampments immediately,
1491
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,999
{\an8}vanquish the radicals
and take back our campuses
1492
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,999
{\an8}for all of the normal students
1493
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,719
{\an8}who want a safe place
from which to learn.
1494
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,439
{\an8}Give me a reason
why you're doing this.
1495
01:22:26,440 --> 01:22:30,319
{\an8}Oh, my God, you people are fascists!
You are Hitler!
1496
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,639
{\an8}I'm peacefully protesting
and they're fucking arrested me.
1497
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,960
{\an8}They arrested over 100 individuals,
then suspended them.
1498
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,079
{\an8}Cornell University
is suspending enrolment
1499
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,000
{\an8}and study for students
that participate in campus protests.
1500
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,479
The school is alleging
that I was involved
1501
01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:59,999
in the organisation of an
unauthorised encampment on campus.
1502
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,879
The tents here have to go.
1503
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,639
It will be a permanent moral stain
1504
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,759
on the legacy of
this university forever.
1505
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,399
The school is alleging
that I led chants
1506
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,639
that became disruptive
for university activity.
1507
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,119
That signals to me that
there's something profoundly wrong
1508
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,199
about our university's ability to
guarantee our freedom of expression
1509
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,720
on campus.
1510
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:25,519
You have elite academic institutions
that are self-destructing,
1511
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,359
that have been exposed
ideologically.
1512
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,759
Should power change hands
after the election this year,
1513
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:37,039
I know for a fact that
there are significant changes
1514
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,000
coming to American higher education.
1515
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,280
Look what has happened.
Is this crazy?
1516
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:53,679
♪ The jukebox is pounding
The bar is lit with smoke
1517
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,319
♪ The patrons,
they've been brawling... ♪
1518
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,919
{\an8}Free speech used to be a shared
value, no matter the politics.
1519
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,519
I'm a very strong person
for free speech.
1520
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,679
Now, it's a weapon wielded by those
in power.
1521
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,959
♪ The last dance... ♪
1522
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,920
Our country will be woke no longer.
1523
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:18,759
It's Physics 101 - for every action,
there's an opposite reaction.
1524
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:23,719
On campus, a movement for fairness
and inclusion slid into zealotry.
1525
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,639
Supercharged by social media,
1526
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,799
certain ideas became blasphemy
1527
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,199
and disagreements put professors
and students in the crosshairs.
1528
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,719
It's not a debate.
It's not a debate.
1529
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,319
And when the pendulum swung back,
1530
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,199
it was more like a wrecking ball
swinging hard to the right,
1531
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,959
with a reality TV grin.
1532
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,519
I've notified every single
government DEI officer
1533
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,639
that their job has been deleted.
1534
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,359
They're gone. They're fired.
You're fired!
1535
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:54,119
The culture war hasn't left campus,
it's been taken over by government.
1536
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,879
{\an8}We have to honestly
and aggressively attack
1537
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,919
the universities in this country.
1538
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,039
{\an8}By weaponising anti-Semitism
through lawsuits and funding freezes,
1539
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,279
{\an8}Trump was executing on
a campaign promise.
1540
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,239
College presidents must end
the anti-Semitic propaganda,
1541
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,639
{\an8}or they will lose
their accreditation
1542
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,839
{\an8}and they will lose
all federal support.
1543
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,639
{\an8}He has threatened us through
extortion with a billion-dollar fine
1544
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,119
{\an8}unless we do his bidding.
1545
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,319
{\an8}Freezing more than $2 billion
in research funds.
1546
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,119
{\an8}The impacts of those cuts
will be severe
1547
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,639
{\an8}to cutting-edge cures for cancer,
cures for diseases.
1548
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,559
These actions are not
about anti-Semitism.
1549
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,079
{\an8}They're about authoritarianism.
1550
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,279
You're going to be under arrest.
1551
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,759
It was a warning to anyone
who spoke out...
1552
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,719
{\an8}A Tufts University
graduate student...
1553
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,799
{\an8}Handcuffed and taken away
by plainclothes ICE agents.
1554
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,079
...and activists like Momodou suddenly
faced the blunt edge of state power.
1555
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,399
Momodou Taal had his visa revoked
1556
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,159
and decided to leave the country
before ICE could catch him.
1557
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,279
It was a ticking time bomb
until I'm picked up off the streets.
1558
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,919
Every time I find one
of these lunatics,
1559
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:58,559
I take away their visa.
1560
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,559
For all their differences,
1561
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,359
the extremes have something
in common -
1562
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:08,359
the same impulse to use power
to silence what they can't tolerate.
1563
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,199
♪ I see you in the shadows... ♪
1564
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,519
If I've learned anything going back
to school, it's this -
1565
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,519
if we want to hold on
to our fragile democracy,
1566
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,919
we've got to defend free speech,
1567
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,960
even when it's hard,
especially when it's personal.
1568
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,719
Because once speech becomes
a privilege
1569
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:31,199
granted or revoked by those in power,
it isn't free any more.
1570
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,519
It's just power,
1571
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,600
and then it's not just speech
we're losing.
1572
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,400
It's conversation...
1573
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,439
...the ability
to speak across differences.
1574
01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:43,680
That's what's at stake.
1575
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,080
So we better start talking again
before we forget how.
1576
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,479
At least that's what I think.
1577
01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:00,240
What do you think?
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