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No.
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Sweetie, stay with me.
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Mom, my stomach hurts.
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Mine too.
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This'll all be over soon.
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Don't be scared.
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Mommy's gonna fix everything.
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Please, it's been days.
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Have you made your choice?
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He needs to eat.
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Have you made your choice?
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Yes.
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So you're saying that this car is tied
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to a missing person's case? What?
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A mother and young son disappeared
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when they were visiting family upstate.
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FBI is assisting in the
search, but this is the first
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real lead we've gotten.
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The plates are a match to the Palmers'.
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Well, wherever they went,
they left their luggage behind.
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Park ranger found it a few
days ago abandoned by a trail.
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I just got around to logging
the plates in this morning.
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You've been sitting on the
information for 48 hours?
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That's the two of them there, ok?
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And every second counts,
so if there's anything else
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you might have overlooked...
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like I told you, the car was abandoned.
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- We towed it.
- Heads up.
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Got a vertical gash on
the sidewall of this flat.
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It's about two inches long.
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Any chance they just hit a curb?
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No, I don't think so.
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This kerf is deep and narrow,
and there's no radial scuffing.
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Somebody slashed it.
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We need the exact location
where this was towed from.
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I'm agent bell. This is
agent ramos and scola.
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SUV was over this way.
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Tire was flat, so I cut
whoever owned it some slack,
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- gave him time to find a spare.
- When was this?
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Thursday.
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After a couple days, I called for a tow.
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A man's gotta have limits to his goodwill.
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Mr. Bream, do you think
it's possible that the Palmers
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got lost on the trail?
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Over the years, some
folks have been known
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to go in and never come out.
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What does that mean?
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Nature can be cruel, that's all.
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You said you were working that day.
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You see these people?
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No, not that I recall.
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Any cameras in the park?
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Not unless you're looking
for hessel's hair streak.
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What?
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It's a butterfly on the
endangered species list.
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Beautiful creature.
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They're dying off.
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Suppose some things
are too fragile for this world.
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Hanford university put up this
camera last year to track 'em.
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Pretty sure that it records.
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All right, we're gonna need
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to get our hands on that footage.
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And while you're at it, a
list of your whereabouts
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this past week.
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We finally caught a break
in our missing person's case.
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We now know that
Valerie and Troy Palmer
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detoured on their way
from long island to utica.
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We located their vehicle here,
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tires slashed, seemingly abandoned.
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But maybe they went hiking
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and got lost or hurt,
although something tells me
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that tire didn't slash itself.
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Either way, we are
swimming with questions,
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and we need to start
fishing for answers. Yeah.
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State police expanded
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the search grid to include the trail.
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- No trace of the family.
- But?
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They found Valerie
Palmer's cell phone in a ditch,
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smashed pretty good.
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I do not like where this is going.
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Hey, got that butterfly cam video cued
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to the day the Palmers went missing.
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Let her rip.
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Ok, here they are.
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Mother and son
stopping for a hike, right?
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Tire looks fine.
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Scrub forward. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Who is this?
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Whoa.
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That explains the tire.
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Think that's enough for an ID?
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- Got a little profile there.
- Maybe.
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- What about the Palmers?
- Yeah.
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- Scrub forward.
- Ok.
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- Ok.
- Here we go.
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Mother and son return from
the trail after about an hour.
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They see the flat.
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And here goes.
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- Is that our, tire slasher?
- He circles back.
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Looks like he's offering to help.
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So the tire slasher vandalized
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the Palmers' vehicle, then
poses as a good samaritan
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to offer them a ride.
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Yeah, plan comes
together for our bad guy.
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So this is not just a
missing person's case...
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the Palmers were abducted.
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Let's see if we can
get lucky and get an ID
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- with what we got there.
- Ok.
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Yeah, resolution is too low
for facial rec on the driver.
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- What about the car?
- Running the plates.
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- Stolen.
- Yeah? Ok.
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NYPD, look into the stolen vehicle.
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Here's something.
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That Nissan passed a plate
reader 15 minutes ago...
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Yeah?
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Entering Caleb Smith state park.
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Get a team there now.
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That's the vehicle.
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Clear.
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Pop the trunk.
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Jubal, we found the sedan.
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There's blood in the trunk,
and Troy Palmer's hat.
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Guys.
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Looks like we got a set of boot prints.
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Well, our suspect could
have gone anywhere.
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All right. What do you
want to do, Maggie?
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We're going in.
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Let's split up. Stay on your comms.
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Go dark.
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What's wrong?
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I just feel like I'm being watched here.
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Suspect is fleeing south on foot.
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I'll try to cut him off.
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Scola, Eva, I've got eyes on the mother.
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We're too late.
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You see him?
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- He's gotta be close by.
- We need to set up a cordon.
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I need a helo and a k-9.
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We have another body, young male.
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Hey.
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So the best I can tell,
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your victims were killed
in the last 24 hours.
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Ligature marks on
their wrists and ankles
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suggest they were
bound for several days.
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Bodies were washed
with soap and bleach,
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so no trace DNA,
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and rape kits came
back negative for both.
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It's not a lot to go on.
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Well, autopsies were more revealing.
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Both mother and son show
signs of organ shrinkage
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pointing to starvation, plus darkening
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of the buccal membrane
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and poor skin turgor,
classic signs of dehydration.
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So he abducted them
and then starved them.
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To start with.
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You know, I can email you my report.
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- I'm already here.
- Right.
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I just figured with what
happened to your sister.
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- Thanks, Neil.
- It's ok.
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I'm good.
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Boy was killed quickly, slit throat.
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Mom, not so lucky.
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Cause of death, penetrating sharp-force
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injury to the chest.
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She was stabbed in the heart?
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At least 20 times.
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Violent and rageful.
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What do you know about the weapon?
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Wounds suggest a
nonstandard profile and thickness.
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A specialty blade? Or combat, maybe?
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Edge geometry's multipurpose.
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I think we're looking more for...
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- a dive knife.
- Right.
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Actually, how do you know that?
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For the same reason I know
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I need to get back to the beach.
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Thanks.
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No sign of our suspect
since he slipped the cordon
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last night, but the cadaver dogs
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did hit on another pair of graves.
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Got adult female, adolescent male.
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You were right, Maggie.
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You want to tell me
what's going on here?
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Yeah.
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There was a case back in 2002...
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a serial killer took 17 lives
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before the bureau caught the guy.
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The details match the Palmer murders.
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I mean, from the way they were tied up,
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they were starved, and
even the weapon, a dive knife.
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You think this is all connected?
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- I do.
- Maggie.
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- Give me a sec.
- Yeah.
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Hey, Peter, thanks for coming.
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What's up?
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I don't really know how to say this.
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Just say it.
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The south shore ripper is back.
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Maggie, I caught the
ripper a long time ago,
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and he's dead.
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Hey, guys.
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Dogs got another hit.
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Six new bodies including the Palmers.
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So if the ripper is dead,
how is he still killing?
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This is the face of pure evil.
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Howard James metcalf,
aka the south shore ripper.
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24 years ago, he terrorized the city,
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abducting pairs of victims,
always a mother and a son.
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He held them captive, bound them,
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and starved them until
he eventually killed them.
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He had evaded capture for two years,
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killing 17 victims that we know of.
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One victim escaped. Abel gaskin.
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Goes by Abel Shaw now.
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And Abel led us to metcalf?
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No, but when he escaped,
metcalf got spooked.
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He set the home that he
had been holding them in
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on fire, destroying any evidence
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we could have used against him.
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State police were able to track him down
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thanks to the bau profile,
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but metcalf hanged
himself in his holding cell
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that same evening.
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So the case was never adjudicated,
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but the killings stopped
after metcalf's death.
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Has to be the guy.
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Well, Peter Olsen was the profiler,
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and he thought so, but now we have
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six new victims, same mo.
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All we know for certain is that there is
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a killer out there that has to be stopped.
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State police found two graves,
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both the same... middle-aged
woman and young boy.
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The most recent set was
killed inside of a month.
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The oldest exhibited advanced decomp
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with adipocere formation,
so about five months.
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Can you tell us the cause of death?
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The same as the Palmers.
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Boys had their throats slit.
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Women were stabbed
in the chest repeatedly.
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Can you give us a minute, please?
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Yeah.
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Come on, tell me you see it.
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The victims, the Palmers.
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Mothers and sons.
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Has to be a copycat.
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Valerie Palmer was stabbed
in the heart so many times
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that mosbach said he lost count.
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That's overkill.
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Peter, the FBI never
went public with that detail,
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and the south shore
ripper never made it to trial.
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Now, the only way
somebody could recreate
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these killings is if it was the same...
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the ripper hung himself in his cell.
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We arrested him. He
punched his own ticket.
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I understand why you'd
want to hold on to that.
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What is that supposed to mean?
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The only victim to get
away from the ripper
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said you got the wrong guy.
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The victim was a 12-year-old boy
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who had just seen his mother murdered.
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He was traumatized.
263
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I know, but what if he could have
264
00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:19,450
led us to a different suspect?
265
00:13:19,624 --> 00:13:21,061
Or an accomplice?
266
00:13:21,235 --> 00:13:24,891
My profile clearly said one killer, not two.
267
00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:27,067
Then how do you explain this?
268
00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:28,546
All these years later,
269
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,679
we've got new murders
with the same mo.
270
00:13:30,853 --> 00:13:33,290
The ripper was in it for the pain.
271
00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:35,902
Once his victims couldn't feel it anymore,
272
00:13:36,076 --> 00:13:37,556
he tossed the bodies into a dumpster.
273
00:13:37,729 --> 00:13:39,557
- They were trash to him.
- Precisely.
274
00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:41,298
These new victims were buried.
275
00:13:41,472 --> 00:13:43,344
The mos are not the same.
276
00:13:43,518 --> 00:13:47,217
It's been 24 years, Peter.
277
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The killer could have evolved.
278
00:13:51,308 --> 00:13:53,658
Maybe your theory needs to as well.
279
00:13:56,052 --> 00:13:58,315
We've been comparing the two cases.
280
00:13:58,489 --> 00:14:01,753
Back in 2002, the ripper
used a standard dive knife.
281
00:14:01,928 --> 00:14:03,886
And the new victims
were killed with the same.
282
00:14:04,060 --> 00:14:05,777
Problem is, these knives
are widely available.
283
00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:07,194
Right. What about the grave site?
284
00:14:07,368 --> 00:14:08,848
Ert find anything usable there?
285
00:14:09,022 --> 00:14:11,415
Negative, but analysis of the trace fibers
286
00:14:11,589 --> 00:14:14,941
found embedded in the Palmers'
wrists and ankles came in.
287
00:14:15,115 --> 00:14:17,639
It looks like the killer bound them with
288
00:14:17,813 --> 00:14:19,423
half-inch-diameter rope featuring
289
00:14:19,597 --> 00:14:21,817
a 12-strand, double-braid construction
290
00:14:21,991 --> 00:14:25,821
and a unique dye pattern that's
consistent with marine rope.
291
00:14:25,995 --> 00:14:28,868
It's manufactured specifically
by this small company
292
00:14:29,042 --> 00:14:30,652
in Ohio, tideturner.
293
00:14:30,826 --> 00:14:32,760
It's only sold in three
stores in the tristate area.
294
00:14:32,784 --> 00:14:35,091
All right, let's get a list
over to Eva and scola.
295
00:14:35,265 --> 00:14:37,026
I want a full report on
anyone who has purchased
296
00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:38,225
that rope in the last year.
297
00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,039
I don't want to be the one to say this,
298
00:14:40,096 --> 00:14:42,533
but if Peter Olsen got it
wrong two decades ago...
299
00:14:42,707 --> 00:14:44,971
well, then Maggie will
get to the bottom of it.
300
00:14:45,145 --> 00:14:47,799
She and Peter are sitting
with Abel Shaw now.
301
00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:49,976
Look, if this is the same killer,
302
00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:53,805
maybe the lone survivor
can give us some insight.
303
00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:55,720
I was 12,
304
00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:59,899
and the ripper held me
and my mom in a basement,
305
00:15:00,073 --> 00:15:03,163
no food, just enough water
306
00:15:03,337 --> 00:15:07,819
to keep us alive for five days.
307
00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:14,478
Sorry, I try not to think about it anymore.
308
00:15:14,652 --> 00:15:15,958
Is this really necessary?
309
00:15:16,132 --> 00:15:17,873
I know that this is difficult.
310
00:15:18,047 --> 00:15:19,764
We would not be asking
you if it wasn't important.
311
00:15:19,788 --> 00:15:21,746
It's ok. It's ok.
312
00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:27,752
After the third day, he
said that we had to choose
313
00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:31,713
who would live and who would die.
314
00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:34,759
My mother...
315
00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:45,466
She always protected
me, and so she volunteered.
316
00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,034
I know that this is cold comfort,
317
00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:52,038
but, the ripper found excitement
318
00:15:52,212 --> 00:15:53,778
breaking down his victims.
319
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:56,129
Choice was irrelevant.
320
00:15:56,303 --> 00:15:58,653
He was always going to kill you both.
321
00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:06,791
Then he grabbed the wrong
woman, 'cause when he...
322
00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:14,966
Started stabbing her...
She fought back and
323
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:22,372
bought me time to run, to survive.
324
00:16:22,546 --> 00:16:27,638
After you escaped, you said that metcalf
325
00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:29,901
wasn't the man that killed your mother.
326
00:16:30,076 --> 00:16:33,993
Now, that was 24 years ago.
Do you still believe that now?
327
00:16:34,167 --> 00:16:35,864
Of course. Wait, why are you asking?
328
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,827
He's killing again, isn't he?
329
00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:45,830
- Someone is killing, yes, but...
- this is your fault.
330
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,441
Abel said you had the wrong guy.
331
00:16:47,615 --> 00:16:49,506
The real killer's been
running free this whole time
332
00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:50,681
because you wouldn't believe him?
333
00:16:50,705 --> 00:16:51,705
- Erica, it's ok.
- No.
334
00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:53,664
No, none of this is ok.
335
00:16:53,838 --> 00:16:55,318
You know, Abel changed his name
336
00:16:55,492 --> 00:16:57,233
so the real killer couldn't track him down.
337
00:16:57,407 --> 00:16:59,322
He always could have
contacted the bureau.
338
00:16:59,496 --> 00:17:00,802
We would have helped you.
339
00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:02,127
So you would have believed him then?
340
00:17:02,151 --> 00:17:03,544
Erica.
341
00:17:07,416 --> 00:17:09,419
I miss my mother every day.
342
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,336
Can you tell us anything
343
00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:15,425
about the man that you remember?
344
00:17:17,123 --> 00:17:18,602
I'm sorry.
345
00:17:18,776 --> 00:17:22,824
Even now, the feeling,
346
00:17:22,998 --> 00:17:26,696
it's clear as day, but my memory is fuzzy.
347
00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:28,438
It has been since I escaped.
348
00:17:28,612 --> 00:17:30,962
Wait, except the thing from emdr.
349
00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,661
- Yeah.
- It's a therapy used for PTSD.
350
00:17:33,835 --> 00:17:35,402
And it helped.
351
00:17:35,706 --> 00:17:39,971
It also unlocked something
that I had repressed... a smell.
352
00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:43,236
We were starving, and
he would cook every night.
353
00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:44,411
Fish.
354
00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:47,762
And that smell tormented us.
355
00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:48,937
It's probably nothing.
356
00:17:49,459 --> 00:17:50,779
Anything you remember is helpful.
357
00:17:54,377 --> 00:17:56,553
So you still think metcalf is the ripper?
358
00:17:56,727 --> 00:18:00,079
The boy experienced a
peritraumatic dissociation.
359
00:18:00,253 --> 00:18:02,385
It's a coping mechanism, nothing more.
360
00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,083
What about the new
memory, the smell of the fish?
361
00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:06,919
I mean, you can't just ignore that.
362
00:18:07,608 --> 00:18:10,393
Maggie, I wrote the ripper's profile.
363
00:18:10,567 --> 00:18:13,570
I knew who we were looking
for. Metcalf checked every box.
364
00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:23,014
Peter, what if... look, hear me out.
365
00:18:23,189 --> 00:18:24,799
What if you have a blind spot?
366
00:18:24,973 --> 00:18:27,193
Ok, what if your ego caused you
367
00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:29,586
to jump the gun 24 years ago and...
368
00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:33,112
Now it's impairing your judgment?
369
00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:36,115
And what if you just
want me to have erred
370
00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:39,292
so you can fix a failure of your own?
371
00:18:39,466 --> 00:18:40,641
Wow.
372
00:18:40,989 --> 00:18:42,358
- No, all I'm saying...
- wow. You know what?
373
00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,123
This has nothing to do with my sister.
374
00:18:44,297 --> 00:18:47,256
All I'm saying is we've
all got blind spots, Maggie.
375
00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:50,520
At bau, we analyze
hundreds of data points,
376
00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:52,783
from the crime scene to victimology,
377
00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:56,700
to gain insight on the offender
based on their behavior.
378
00:18:56,874 --> 00:18:59,660
Behavior. I know what bau does.
379
00:18:59,834 --> 00:19:01,923
I also know that profiling
is not a hard science.
380
00:19:02,097 --> 00:19:04,969
Well, it's a proven skill,
fortified by statistics.
381
00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,362
Ok.
382
00:19:06,536 --> 00:19:07,856
Then look me in the eye right now
383
00:19:08,016 --> 00:19:09,696
and tell me there is no statistical chance
384
00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:11,498
that you made a mistake.
385
00:19:17,417 --> 00:19:21,334
- You're just gonna leave?
- No, I am going to my car.
386
00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:23,510
I brought my case
notes, and we can go over
387
00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:26,904
all the old suspects again.
388
00:19:32,649 --> 00:19:33,955
You Jack?
389
00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:35,304
Jack moved to boca.
390
00:19:35,478 --> 00:19:37,480
It's my shop now.
391
00:19:37,654 --> 00:19:39,526
- Can I help you?
- Yeah.
392
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:43,138
FBI, special agents ramos and scola.
393
00:19:43,312 --> 00:19:45,421
Yeah, I made you as feds
the second you stepped in.
394
00:19:45,445 --> 00:19:47,838
We were going for fishermen.
395
00:19:48,012 --> 00:19:49,492
Maybe you could help us out.
396
00:19:49,666 --> 00:19:52,495
We're canvassing some
marine supply shops
397
00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:55,019
in the tristate area as
part of an investigation,
398
00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,108
and your store popped
up as one of the few
399
00:19:57,283 --> 00:19:59,676
that supplies tideturner rope.
400
00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:01,243
Don't remind me.
401
00:20:01,591 --> 00:20:03,482
Had to take it off the
shelves, it was such a dud.
402
00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:04,786
You haven't sold any recently?
403
00:20:04,855 --> 00:20:05,943
No, sir.
404
00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:07,568
In fact, I used my leftover stock
405
00:20:07,989 --> 00:20:10,029
to dress some white-tailed
deer I hunted last fall.
406
00:20:10,121 --> 00:20:11,862
Tideturner might be crap for boats,
407
00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:15,866
but it's great for stringing up a carcass.
408
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,920
Well, would you have
records of any customers
409
00:20:18,042 --> 00:20:20,219
who might have purchased
that brand of rope?
410
00:20:21,959 --> 00:20:23,198
I got five years of
receipts downstairs in case
411
00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:25,528
the tax man comes calling.
412
00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:27,835
You're welcome to look.
413
00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:29,140
Sounds good.
414
00:20:33,623 --> 00:20:36,278
All right. Frederick monk?
415
00:20:36,452 --> 00:20:39,977
Died in '09. Stroke.
416
00:20:40,151 --> 00:20:43,285
Ok. Next, William Hoffman.
417
00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:47,376
Incarcerated in 2014 for
aggravated sexual assault
418
00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:49,204
- in Santa Cruz.
- Where is he now?
419
00:20:49,378 --> 00:20:51,337
Died in prison last year.
420
00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:53,426
- Nope.
- And he had an IQ of 70.
421
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,166
Ok.
422
00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:59,083
All right, let's try Reggie Kramer with a k.
423
00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:01,782
Hold on. Kramer dated Mary vandt?
424
00:21:01,956 --> 00:21:03,479
That's the ripper's first victim.
425
00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:05,699
Please, just forget about Kramer.
426
00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:08,528
- So he's still alive.
- Lives in Massapequa.
427
00:21:08,702 --> 00:21:12,271
Says here that he found his own
mother murdered when he was 15.
428
00:21:12,445 --> 00:21:13,900
Ok, well, that's the same age as the boys
429
00:21:13,924 --> 00:21:15,186
the ripper abducted and killed.
430
00:21:15,709 --> 00:21:18,538
The ripper was organized,
methodical, fastidious.
431
00:21:18,712 --> 00:21:22,368
When I interviewed Kramer in
2002, his house was a pigsty.
432
00:21:22,542 --> 00:21:24,413
- There's absolutely no way.
- Wait.
433
00:21:24,587 --> 00:21:26,154
Hey, guys, there's more.
434
00:21:26,328 --> 00:21:28,088
Kramer owns one of
the bait-and-tackle shops
435
00:21:28,112 --> 00:21:31,115
that scola and Eva are canvassing.
436
00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:37,121
Sales receipts are in a
couple of boxes back there.
437
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,001
You ever thought about
tidying up down here a bit?
438
00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,091
Yeah, you could digitize,
join the 21st century.
439
00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:51,701
Look.
440
00:21:58,273 --> 00:22:01,668
Maggie. Hello?
441
00:22:04,105 --> 00:22:05,976
Service down here is terrible.
442
00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:07,500
Better luck upstairs.
443
00:22:10,459 --> 00:22:12,113
Yeah, go ahead.
444
00:22:24,473 --> 00:22:25,518
Scola?
445
00:22:25,692 --> 00:22:27,084
Maggie, yeah, what's up?
446
00:22:27,258 --> 00:22:28,912
Hey, we're looking at the suspects
447
00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:31,330
of the old ripper case, and
one of the names stood out.
448
00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:38,226
Those boxes are just around the corner.
449
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,012
Yeah, keep going. Yeah.
450
00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:46,452
His name is Reggie Kramer.
451
00:22:46,626 --> 00:22:48,186
He owns one of the stores on your list.
452
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,064
Wait, Kramer? Kramer?
453
00:22:50,238 --> 00:22:51,238
We're... we're here now.
454
00:23:00,553 --> 00:23:02,468
You sharpen your own
knives, Mr. Kramer?
455
00:23:02,642 --> 00:23:05,732
Yeah, just a little
something I like to do to relax.
456
00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:10,563
You'd like to see my handiwork?
457
00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:15,481
Drop the knife. Now.
458
00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:18,266
Hey! Put the knife on
the ground right now.
459
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,833
Slowly.
460
00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:21,487
Keep your hands where I can see them.
461
00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:24,098
Ok, let's all take a deep breath.
462
00:23:24,272 --> 00:23:27,144
No one has to get hurt.
463
00:23:27,318 --> 00:23:29,146
Now turn around.
464
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,279
Hands behind your back.
465
00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:42,812
Now I can show you my handiwork.
466
00:23:55,956 --> 00:23:58,001
Five days ago, Valerie and Troy Palmer
467
00:23:58,175 --> 00:23:59,525
were abducted from a trail head
468
00:23:59,699 --> 00:24:01,918
just outside of the city.
469
00:24:02,092 --> 00:24:03,354
If you say so.
470
00:24:03,746 --> 00:24:06,749
Suspect matches your
height and your build.
471
00:24:06,923 --> 00:24:08,795
There's a lot of people on this planet.
472
00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:12,886
And where on this planet were
you five days ago, Mr. Kramer?
473
00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,454
You know, here and there.
474
00:24:15,628 --> 00:24:18,369
- Ok.
- I can't say for certain.
475
00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:20,633
Have you ever visited
Caleb Smith state park?
476
00:24:20,807 --> 00:24:22,243
Many times.
477
00:24:24,724 --> 00:24:27,074
- You want to know a secret?
- Sure.
478
00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:31,165
White pools.
479
00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:36,431
Best fly fishing on the
whole nissequogue.
480
00:24:38,955 --> 00:24:41,175
- He's toying with them.
- More like a test.
481
00:24:41,349 --> 00:24:44,613
Serial killers are
motivated by domination,
482
00:24:44,787 --> 00:24:46,702
manipulation, and control.
483
00:24:46,876 --> 00:24:47,964
Right, control.
484
00:24:48,138 --> 00:24:49,226
He's cuffed to the table.
485
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,837
He could be hogtied to the floor.
486
00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:52,055
As far as he's concerned,
487
00:24:52,403 --> 00:24:53,598
he could still win the chess match.
488
00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,015
That is exactly what we want.
489
00:24:55,189 --> 00:24:57,017
Why is that?
490
00:24:57,191 --> 00:25:01,630
It's the only way Maggie
can put him in checkmate.
491
00:25:01,804 --> 00:25:06,635
Your mother, Darlene, died
when you were young, right?
492
00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:08,289
You're being obvious, agent bell.
493
00:25:08,463 --> 00:25:10,987
- How so?
- She was murdered.
494
00:25:11,161 --> 00:25:12,511
You think there's a connection.
495
00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:14,034
Isn't there?
496
00:25:14,208 --> 00:25:16,471
You were 15 years old,
497
00:25:16,645 --> 00:25:18,285
and you were the one
that found the body.
498
00:25:18,386 --> 00:25:23,391
She was in the kitchen,
strangled with her apron.
499
00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:26,176
- Rick did it.
- Yeah, your stepfather.
500
00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:29,266
At least that's what the police said.
501
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,268
You think the police got the wrong guy?
502
00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:33,270
Do you?
503
00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:37,318
Do you miss her?
504
00:25:37,492 --> 00:25:40,277
Well, she wasn't a very good mother.
505
00:25:42,410 --> 00:25:44,368
Well, then again, I
wasn't a very good son.
506
00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:47,154
The thing I find interesting
is you have not once
507
00:25:47,328 --> 00:25:49,069
asked why we brought you in.
508
00:25:49,243 --> 00:25:50,853
Well, I suppose I'm just waiting
509
00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:52,333
for you to show your hand.
510
00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:54,640
Ok, here it is.
511
00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:57,512
Three pairs of bodies,
all mothers and sons,
512
00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:01,821
all found in a remote
wilderness wildlife refuge
513
00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:04,214
that you just admitted to visiting.
514
00:26:04,388 --> 00:26:08,610
And they were tied up with
rope like the one from my shop.
515
00:26:08,784 --> 00:26:12,571
And stabbed to death with
a dive knife like you own.
516
00:26:12,745 --> 00:26:16,879
Murdered in their prime, just like mom.
517
00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:19,490
Right again, Reggie.
518
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:24,278
Maybe they weren't good
mothers or good sons.
519
00:26:24,452 --> 00:26:27,324
Are you the south shore ripper?
520
00:26:27,498 --> 00:26:29,892
What do you think?
521
00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,765
I just have one more question.
522
00:26:32,939 --> 00:26:34,288
Why these women?
523
00:26:36,943 --> 00:26:40,076
Women like that, yeah, they would never
524
00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:42,513
be with someone like me.
525
00:26:42,688 --> 00:26:46,735
They look at me, and
they see a monster.
526
00:26:46,909 --> 00:26:49,695
Well, this monster gave
them what they deserved.
527
00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:56,832
Start at the beginning.
528
00:27:04,971 --> 00:27:06,189
Great work.
529
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:07,810
I'll let the eastern district know
530
00:27:07,974 --> 00:27:09,081
- their life just got easier.
- Don't bother.
531
00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:10,106
Kramer's not our killer.
532
00:27:10,454 --> 00:27:11,388
He just wants us to think that he is.
533
00:27:11,412 --> 00:27:12,543
Hold on.
534
00:27:13,022 --> 00:27:14,434
Are telling me this guy just took the rap
535
00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:15,958
for six murders that he didn't commit?
536
00:27:15,982 --> 00:27:18,419
- Why would he do that?
- To feel important.
537
00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:21,596
Ok, all due respect to
the bau and its methods.
538
00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:24,090
We're gonna need more than
that to throw out a confession.
539
00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:26,324
Kramer claimed that he
was attracted to his victims.
540
00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:28,777
The rape kits came back
on the Palmers negative,
541
00:27:28,951 --> 00:27:32,868
and nothing in the evidence
supports psycho sexual motive.
542
00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:36,437
I think that our killer is
angry and grievance-driven.
543
00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:37,612
Ok, fine.
544
00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:39,745
But I am holding Kramer.
545
00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:41,119
Let's keep running down leads.
546
00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,376
We've also got the park
ranger, Clyde bream.
547
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,422
I mean, given the timeline,
he deserves another look.
548
00:27:45,446 --> 00:27:46,708
Bring him in.
549
00:27:55,499 --> 00:27:56,500
Peter.
550
00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:01,984
I don't want to keep dwelling in the past,
551
00:28:02,158 --> 00:28:05,771
so how do you feel about
building a new profile
552
00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:07,990
with only the current cases?
553
00:28:08,164 --> 00:28:11,167
Sounds good to me.
554
00:28:11,341 --> 00:28:14,562
Good call on Kramer.
555
00:28:14,736 --> 00:28:17,173
All right, let's begin with victimology.
556
00:28:17,347 --> 00:28:20,133
We know that our current
killer abducts mothers and sons.
557
00:28:20,307 --> 00:28:22,135
He's repetitive, ritualistic.
558
00:28:22,309 --> 00:28:23,789
All six victims are white.
559
00:28:23,963 --> 00:28:26,879
Since serial killers rarely kill across race,
560
00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:28,358
we can assume he's white too.
561
00:28:28,532 --> 00:28:30,578
The abductions are clustered near
562
00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:32,232
the hiking trails in this park.
563
00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:34,277
We know he lives in
or around long island.
564
00:28:34,451 --> 00:28:35,844
Ok.
565
00:28:36,062 --> 00:28:38,717
Crime scene analysis
shows that he is organized,
566
00:28:38,891 --> 00:28:41,284
but not just cleaning and
disposing of the bodies.
567
00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:43,983
He plans the abductions, the captivity.
568
00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:45,811
It shows Patience and maturity.
569
00:28:45,985 --> 00:28:47,945
But he has to be able
to dispose of the bodies,
570
00:28:48,117 --> 00:28:51,120
so we're probably looking for
somebody who's younger than 50.
571
00:28:51,294 --> 00:28:53,688
Very good. The signature.
572
00:28:53,862 --> 00:28:54,970
All right, we know that
he deprives his victims
573
00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:56,473
of food and light.
574
00:28:56,691 --> 00:28:58,824
And assuming that he's
giving his new victims
575
00:28:58,998 --> 00:29:00,434
the same impossible choice,
576
00:29:00,608 --> 00:29:02,044
it underscores his need for power.
577
00:29:02,218 --> 00:29:03,587
Right, power that he carries through
578
00:29:03,611 --> 00:29:05,178
until he has an emotional release
579
00:29:05,352 --> 00:29:07,093
where he violently kills the mother.
580
00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:10,400
But then with the boy,
it's more mechanical.
581
00:29:10,574 --> 00:29:12,359
It's quick.
582
00:29:12,533 --> 00:29:15,057
Peter, everything we've come up with
583
00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:17,973
just looks like your profile back in 2002.
584
00:29:18,147 --> 00:29:20,584
Well, I still can't get around the change
585
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,935
in the postmortem mo.
586
00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:24,589
Because he used to dump the bodies,
587
00:29:24,937 --> 00:29:27,137
- but now he buries them?
- What were you saying before?
588
00:29:27,243 --> 00:29:29,506
He's evolving, he's...
589
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,334
yeah, I think something's changed.
590
00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:43,303
It's right in front of us.
591
00:29:43,477 --> 00:29:44,477
What?
592
00:29:44,608 --> 00:29:45,958
Our killer is ritualistic
593
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,830
because he needs to fill
some psychological need, right?
594
00:29:49,004 --> 00:29:50,310
He's working through something.
595
00:29:50,484 --> 00:29:51,659
Ok.
596
00:29:51,833 --> 00:29:53,922
He's hiding his self-loathing.
597
00:29:54,096 --> 00:29:55,881
Peter, you were right.
598
00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:58,884
The ripper is not the killer,
but he's not a copycat either.
599
00:29:59,058 --> 00:30:00,973
Our killer knows the intimate details
600
00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:04,803
of the ripper's methods because
he witnessed them firsthand.
601
00:30:04,977 --> 00:30:06,152
My god.
602
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:07,912
Yeah, and if you saw
your mother attacked,
603
00:30:07,936 --> 00:30:10,199
wouldn't you be ashamed?
604
00:30:21,602 --> 00:30:22,603
I don't get it.
605
00:30:23,038 --> 00:30:24,438
Why are you looking for my husband?
606
00:30:24,648 --> 00:30:26,061
We believe that Abel
has picked up the mantle
607
00:30:26,085 --> 00:30:27,525
- for the south shore ripper.
- What?
608
00:30:27,869 --> 00:30:29,238
By committing these murders,
he's re-enacting his trauma.
609
00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:30,342
No, that is not possible.
610
00:30:30,393 --> 00:30:31,525
Abel would never do that.
611
00:30:31,742 --> 00:30:33,832
Erica, I know this is a lot to take in,
612
00:30:34,006 --> 00:30:38,097
but sometimes a killing
follows a precipitating event.
613
00:30:38,271 --> 00:30:41,100
The first pair of murders
happened about five months ago.
614
00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:43,450
So did anything happen
to Abel around that time?
615
00:30:43,624 --> 00:30:45,887
Abel's been stressed, but... but everyone
616
00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:47,889
would be in our situation.
617
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,151
What's your situation?
618
00:30:49,325 --> 00:30:50,413
I'm pregnant.
619
00:30:50,718 --> 00:30:53,242
The doctor said it was impossible,
620
00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:57,029
but then we were blessed
with this miracle baby boy.
621
00:30:57,203 --> 00:30:59,118
How did Abel react to that news?
622
00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:00,989
He was nervous.
623
00:31:01,163 --> 00:31:03,078
He's been through so much.
624
00:31:03,252 --> 00:31:04,514
How far along are you?
625
00:31:04,732 --> 00:31:06,777
A little over five months.
626
00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,083
Five months.
627
00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:09,278
We've already been to your house.
628
00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:10,302
Abel isn't there.
629
00:31:10,694 --> 00:31:11,541
Do you know where he is right now?
630
00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:12,827
He went fishing.
631
00:31:13,219 --> 00:31:14,718
He stopped going years
ago, but when he found out
632
00:31:14,742 --> 00:31:15,917
he was gonna be a dad,
633
00:31:16,135 --> 00:31:17,695
that's how he's been blowing off steam.
634
00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:23,316
He's using fishing as a pretext
635
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:25,318
to abduct another family.
636
00:31:25,492 --> 00:31:26,754
All right, listen up.
637
00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:28,253
Maggie and Peter are
convinced Abel Shaw has already
638
00:31:28,277 --> 00:31:29,477
abducted a new set of victims.
639
00:31:29,757 --> 00:31:31,317
Jubal, it looks like a mother and son
640
00:31:31,411 --> 00:31:32,851
from southampton vanished yesterday.
641
00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:34,588
Audrey and Bryce Cahill.
642
00:31:34,762 --> 00:31:36,155
Kid's 12. Fits the bill.
643
00:31:36,503 --> 00:31:38,679
Car was found abandoned
at Rogers beach near quogue.
644
00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:41,116
One tire slashed, phones
found smashed down the road.
645
00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:42,901
Ok, so this has gotta be our guy.
646
00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:45,338
We can't track the
cahills. Can we track Abel?
647
00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,122
Nothing on his phone location.
648
00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:49,274
All right, so we need to do
this the old-fashioned way.
649
00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:51,257
Where could Abel have taken them?
650
00:31:51,431 --> 00:31:53,191
What do we know about
him? Where does he eat?
651
00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:54,627
Where does he sleep?
What does he do for a living?
652
00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:55,811
I can help with the last one.
653
00:31:56,044 --> 00:31:57,654
Abel manages a significant real estate
654
00:31:57,828 --> 00:32:00,266
portfolio, some commercial,
mostly residential.
655
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,880
So he could be holding his victims
656
00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:03,332
at one of his properties. But which one?
657
00:32:03,356 --> 00:32:04,966
Well, I can cross-reference utilities
658
00:32:05,314 --> 00:32:06,988
against property tax records,
see if any of them are vacant.
659
00:32:07,012 --> 00:32:08,337
- Yeah, do it.
- I might have a shortcut.
660
00:32:08,361 --> 00:32:09,710
Ok.
661
00:32:10,189 --> 00:32:12,167
In 2002, the ripper held
Abel and his mother captive
662
00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:13,951
in the basement of an
abandoned home in east Meadow.
663
00:32:13,975 --> 00:32:16,717
That home was located
on a corner at 1827 Lucille.
664
00:32:16,891 --> 00:32:18,066
Ok.
665
00:32:18,458 --> 00:32:19,522
On the night that the ripper was caught,
666
00:32:19,546 --> 00:32:20,677
he burned it to the ground.
667
00:32:21,069 --> 00:32:22,438
Years later, someone else bought the lot
668
00:32:22,462 --> 00:32:23,985
and built a new home on it.
669
00:32:24,464 --> 00:32:26,945
Only this time, the front door
was facing the adjacent street.
670
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,121
Same exact property has a new address,
671
00:32:29,295 --> 00:32:31,514
- and guess who owns it now.
- Abel Shaw?
672
00:32:31,688 --> 00:32:32,776
Yes, as Abel gaskin.
673
00:32:33,168 --> 00:32:34,145
It's the only property still registered
674
00:32:34,169 --> 00:32:35,518
under his birth name.
675
00:32:35,866 --> 00:32:37,583
If Abel is trying to recreate
the ripper's crimes...
676
00:32:37,607 --> 00:32:39,527
it makes sense he would
use the same kill box.
677
00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:41,698
Get Maggie on the line.
678
00:32:41,872 --> 00:32:43,657
So we found his kill box, so now what?
679
00:32:43,831 --> 00:32:46,151
- Are we gonna breach and arrest?
- No, it's way too risky.
680
00:32:46,268 --> 00:32:48,270
Abel's capture phase
lasts about five days.
681
00:32:48,444 --> 00:32:50,185
They could still be alive. Thank you.
682
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,479
We're certainly not sitting
around, though, either.
683
00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:54,494
No, the team did a trash cover
684
00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:57,366
and discovered that he uses
a seafood delivery service.
685
00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:59,420
Right, so he cooks
food to taunt his victims,
686
00:32:59,499 --> 00:33:01,370
- just like the original ripper.
- Yeah.
687
00:33:01,544 --> 00:33:03,479
They're making a delivery
to the house in an hour.
688
00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:05,287
That's our in.
689
00:33:45,588 --> 00:33:47,938
That's him. Hit it.
690
00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:05,715
Ok, go downstairs and
check the basement.
691
00:34:05,739 --> 00:34:07,523
I got him.
692
00:34:11,136 --> 00:34:13,094
- Ready?
- Yeah.
693
00:34:15,748 --> 00:34:17,880
Audrey? Bryce?
694
00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:22,886
We're too late.
695
00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:28,065
- Maggie.
- Yeah?
696
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,545
No cahills in the basement.
697
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,547
Where are they?
698
00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:34,985
Did you kill them?
699
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,639
Why would I do that?
700
00:34:37,813 --> 00:34:39,380
They haven't chosen yet.
701
00:34:48,172 --> 00:34:49,889
SWAT raided every
property in Abel's portfolio.
702
00:34:49,913 --> 00:34:51,437
Still no sign of the cahills.
703
00:34:51,610 --> 00:34:53,330
If they are still alive, he's gotta tell us
704
00:34:53,395 --> 00:34:55,329
- where he's moved them.
- Well, that'll be tough.
705
00:34:55,353 --> 00:34:57,617
He's fixated on them
completing the ritual.
706
00:34:57,791 --> 00:34:59,880
Abel's compulsions are motivated
707
00:35:00,054 --> 00:35:03,188
by his shame and remorse.
So why don't we confront him?
708
00:35:03,362 --> 00:35:05,538
- Use that against him.
- Do it.
709
00:35:09,498 --> 00:35:11,239
- You coming?
- No.
710
00:35:11,413 --> 00:35:13,459
You saw Abel for who he really is.
711
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,635
It's your case now.
712
00:35:21,075 --> 00:35:24,600
Guess what, Abel.
You washed the bodies.
713
00:35:24,774 --> 00:35:27,690
You didn't clean the basement.
Ert found prints and DNA.
714
00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:29,605
We're gonna tie you to all six murders,
715
00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:33,218
and the only way that you
can help yourself at this point
716
00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:36,960
is by telling me where you're
hiding Audrey and Bryce Cahill.
717
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,966
It's over. You can't hurt them anymore.
718
00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:47,232
I've been studying your patterns, Abel.
719
00:35:47,406 --> 00:35:49,406
All you're doing is repeating
what happened to you
720
00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:51,149
when you let your mother die.
721
00:35:51,323 --> 00:35:55,065
Well, except you did wash the bodies,
722
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,416
then you laid them to rest.
723
00:35:57,590 --> 00:36:01,289
You know what that tells me?
724
00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:04,249
It tells me that you're ashamed,
725
00:36:04,423 --> 00:36:06,425
that you're remorseful.
726
00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:12,735
You don't know what
you're talking about.
727
00:36:16,304 --> 00:36:19,699
You still have a chance
to save Audrey and Bryce
728
00:36:19,873 --> 00:36:22,180
and redeem yourself.
729
00:36:22,354 --> 00:36:26,488
Be the hero that you wanted
to be all those years ago.
730
00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:32,364
Tell me where they are.
731
00:36:38,587 --> 00:36:40,676
Not until they choose.
732
00:36:42,591 --> 00:36:44,391
I thought he was
supposed to be remorseful.
733
00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:46,639
I'm no longer sure
abandoning his mother
734
00:36:46,813 --> 00:36:48,162
is the root of his shame.
735
00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:51,252
How are we supposed
to know what the root is?
736
00:36:51,426 --> 00:36:54,995
Well, Maggie will have
to reprofile him on the fly.
737
00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:56,997
It is over.
738
00:36:57,171 --> 00:37:00,827
- No, it isn't.
- Well, how do you figure?
739
00:37:01,001 --> 00:37:04,178
I mean, short of putting the
knife in Bryce's hand yourself.
740
00:37:14,057 --> 00:37:17,104
There was a second choice that day.
741
00:37:17,278 --> 00:37:19,019
The ripper put the knife in your hand
742
00:37:19,193 --> 00:37:20,586
and gave you the choice...
743
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,241
you kill your mother, or
he's gonna kill you both.
744
00:37:26,505 --> 00:37:28,145
None of the other kids could pull it off.
745
00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:29,484
They couldn't go through with it,
746
00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:32,337
but you were different.
747
00:37:32,511 --> 00:37:37,037
You made the choice
to kill your own mother.
748
00:37:39,431 --> 00:37:41,476
That's why metcalf let you go,
749
00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:43,609
because he saw you
for who you really are.
750
00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:46,307
- You're a killer, just like him.
- Don't.
751
00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:48,001
And you didn't want to identify him,
752
00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:49,615
because you didn't want everyone else
753
00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:52,705
- to know your shame.
- Shut up. Shut up, ok?
754
00:37:52,879 --> 00:37:54,663
I mean, when he died
you must have thought
755
00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:56,665
this was all done, right?
756
00:37:56,839 --> 00:37:58,319
You could just put it all behind you?
757
00:38:00,756 --> 00:38:03,063
Till your wife got pregnant.
758
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:08,155
That wasn't supposed to happen.
759
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:09,635
So when she comes to tell you
760
00:38:09,809 --> 00:38:13,029
that she's gonna have this miracle baby,
761
00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:18,034
a baby boy, you panicked.
762
00:38:18,208 --> 00:38:19,819
I panicked.
763
00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:22,212
I mean, why wouldn't you?
764
00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:27,261
What if this precious baby is like you?
765
00:38:27,435 --> 00:38:29,829
- Broken?
- I'm not broken.
766
00:38:30,003 --> 00:38:31,526
You have made all of these people
767
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:33,833
live your exact nightmare
for one thing alone.
768
00:38:34,007 --> 00:38:35,332
You wanted to find one other person
769
00:38:35,356 --> 00:38:36,749
who made the same choice as you,
770
00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:38,533
so that you wouldn't feel alone.
771
00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:43,190
I can free them.
772
00:38:43,364 --> 00:38:46,933
I can free them from the lies
773
00:38:47,107 --> 00:38:49,239
that they tell themselves
about who they really are.
774
00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:51,416
No. Nobody else has made that choice,
775
00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:53,200
and nobody's going to. Not even Bryce.
776
00:38:53,374 --> 00:38:55,985
You don't know that.
777
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:57,204
- I know.
- No.
778
00:38:57,378 --> 00:38:58,553
Yes. And you know what?
779
00:38:58,771 --> 00:39:00,294
I think deep down, you know that too.
780
00:39:00,468 --> 00:39:02,644
You weren't there.
781
00:39:02,818 --> 00:39:05,430
You didn't see the look on that kid's face
782
00:39:05,604 --> 00:39:08,476
when I gave him the knife.
783
00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:10,565
He's gonna do it.
784
00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,263
He swore he would do it.
785
00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:16,702
I bet he already has.
786
00:39:16,876 --> 00:39:19,400
You don't tell us where they are,
787
00:39:19,574 --> 00:39:22,490
how are you ever gonna know for sure?
788
00:39:35,938 --> 00:39:37,592
Checkmate.
789
00:39:43,903 --> 00:39:47,428
- Go around the sides.
- Yep.
790
00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:48,603
It's locked, scola.
791
00:39:51,563 --> 00:39:53,782
Pull it!
792
00:39:53,956 --> 00:39:56,045
My god.
793
00:39:57,830 --> 00:39:59,005
Ok.
794
00:40:01,573 --> 00:40:03,662
Give me a hand. Bryce.
795
00:40:03,836 --> 00:40:06,186
Come on. Hey, wake up, Bryce.
796
00:40:10,625 --> 00:40:11,625
I've got a pulse.
797
00:40:11,757 --> 00:40:13,280
It's faint, but she's alive.
798
00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:16,326
Your mom's gonna be ok. So are you.
799
00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:19,678
I... I didn't do it. I couldn't.
800
00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:51,710
- Hey.
- Hey.
801
00:40:51,884 --> 00:40:55,915
Look, a couple of
things I said back there...
802
00:40:55,939 --> 00:40:56,939
No, no.
803
00:40:56,976 --> 00:40:59,152
I'm the one who needs to apologize.
804
00:40:59,326 --> 00:41:01,589
Your original profile was spot-on,
805
00:41:01,763 --> 00:41:03,923
- and I shouldn't have pushed...
- no, no, no, no, no.
806
00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:05,898
You were right in the end.
807
00:41:06,072 --> 00:41:07,552
I missed some things.
808
00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:11,643
You sensed them, and you
never stopped questioning.
809
00:41:15,647 --> 00:41:18,345
You know, ever since Erin died, I've...
810
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,956
I've been trying to
separate what happened
811
00:41:21,130 --> 00:41:22,784
to her with what I do.
812
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:28,137
I can't.
813
00:41:28,311 --> 00:41:29,965
I don't think I'll ever be able to.
814
00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:34,970
So I'm choosing to use it as
an edge to save whoever I can.
815
00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:39,888
You once told me that
you no longer recognize
816
00:41:40,062 --> 00:41:42,064
the world around you.
817
00:41:42,238 --> 00:41:45,503
But I think you see the world exactly
818
00:41:45,677 --> 00:41:50,377
for what it is, all the bad and all the good,
819
00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:53,685
and you just refuse to give up on it.
820
00:41:53,859 --> 00:42:01,649
And, well... I'm lucky
to know you, Maggie.
821
00:42:07,089 --> 00:42:08,177
Thank you.
822
00:42:08,351 --> 00:42:10,876
See you around.
60421
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