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Welcome to our series finale of
Ramayana.
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By the way, this Setu is called Nal
Setu, not Ram Setu.
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Ravan was more interested in playing
dirty tricks rather than preparing for
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battle. He called Vidyujjiva and
instructed him to make a replica of
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And then Ravan went to meet Sita. He
told her cheerfully, your dear husband
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dead. It was time to charge on to the
gates of Lanka.
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What is the kind of weaponry that one
should visualize?
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This is a very strange war that one side
has none of this. The Vanaras fought
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with their bare hands and they would
punch, kick, throw stones, even bite. Or
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they would pick up the weapons of the
Rakshasas themselves and hit them. The
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Vanaras kept winning again and again.
Although both sides suffered heavy
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casualties, Ravan wanted to call on
Kumbhakarna. They beat drums to try and
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him up. Then they started pulling his
hair.
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He got up and he was famished. They had
brought meat for him to eat, pig,
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buffalo, deer. Pig, buffalo and deer. As
well as big jars of blood. That was his
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food.
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After months of longing, finally they
had seen each other. Their faces lit up
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with joy. But then Ram's expression
changed and he said to her, Oh lady, you
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should know that I did not fight the war
for your sake. Now there is a doubt
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about your character and I can't even
bear to look at you. What sort of a man
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would take back a woman who has spent
some time in someone else's house?
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This is our series finale of our four
-part retelling of the entire Ramayana.
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The series finale is all about the war
between Shri Ram and Ravan,
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the king of the Rakshasas or the evil
force that was present in the world at
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time of the Ramayana. Remember that
there's only one accurate Ramayana and
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that's the one written by the sage
Valmiki.
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In today's day and age, there's only one
man in India who has studied Valmiki's
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Ramayana with that much intensity, with
that much force, and has gone that much
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into the depths of the Valmiki Ramayana.
His name is Yashodhi Devdaso, who
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helped us create this very special four
-part series.
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If you've not watched the first three
parts, watch them at the end of watching
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this particular part.
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Because all of us loosely know the story
of the Ramayana, but we do not know the
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details. And the details are very
different from the movies, from the
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from the comic books that you've read.
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That's the intention with this whole
series, that every single Indian gets to
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know the real, raw, unfiltered version
of the Ramayana. Make sure you check out
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the other three parts. But today, enjoy
this very special, war -oriented episode
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of Valmiki's Ramayana.
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Begins with Yashodeep Deodarsal in 3, 2,
1.
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Welcome back, Yashodeep sir.
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Thank you very much.
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Welcome to our series finale.
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Thank you for this beautiful series
that's going to stay on the internet for
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another 50 years.
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Thank you very much for this opportunity
to take Maharshi Valmiki's words to all
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of your audience.
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I'm glad.
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Again, in my eyes, I look at this as
duty towards Sanatana Dharma because
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generation has its own retelling of
Ramayana. For me, it wasn't even
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Sagar's Ramayana. It was the anime.
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That's how I visualized the Ramayan. And
I'm hoping that this podcast series is
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kind of a cornerstone for many people's
visualization. And definitely they
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should eventually find your series that
you created on your channel. But this
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has been a beautiful experience until
now. Like very, very educative. Thank
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So welcome back to the studio.
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This is the series finale.
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Yes. Before I let you continue with the
story.
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Let's do a tiny recap of where we left
off and then have an additional question
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after that.
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Okay. So where did we leave off?
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At the end of our last discussion,
Hanuman had come back from Lanka. He had
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reached Kishkindha and told Shri Ram
that he had found Sita in Lanka.
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And now the task ahead is very clear.
They have to go to Lanka, defeat the
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Rakshasas and rescue Sita. That's where
we are.
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Okay. In my eyes, this...
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Episode is about war.
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Yes, we will read the book called
Yudhkanth, which is called Book of War.
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And I also feel that for some reason
with a lot of Sanatanis, this is one of
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lesser known aspects of Ramayana for
some reason. Everyone knows a lot of
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aspects of the previous stories, but we
don't know the details of the war.
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Do you agree? Do you disagree?
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Many times in the later retellings, Yes,
I have not seen as graphic and
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detailed descriptions of the war as in
the Valmiki Raman.
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Some of them are actually gory, very
detailed.
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And it's a fairly large book, the
Yudhakan.
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So today we'll be covering almost a
quarter of the entire story.
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Perhaps because it's gory, it's not
showcased in mainstream media.
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Perhaps, yes.
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That's the beauty of podcast.
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So, sir, before I let you begin, I have
a tiny question that the team picked up
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from the comment section on the first
two episodes, which was that all these
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dialogue exchanges that happen between
the characters.
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How has Maharishi Valmiki written it
accurately?
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He wasn't present when the dialogues
were happening.
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Of course. Yes. So what's your take on
that?
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Well, this is Rama and means Rama say
Ayanam.
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Ram's journey. This is Ram's biography,
Ramasya Charitam.
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So like any biographer, Maharshi Valmiki
would have to do the hard work of
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speaking to all the characters, the
people involved and recreate the
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that accurately represent the thoughts
and emotions of the people at that time.
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So that is the hard work. But Maharshi
Valmiki was also blessed in the sense
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that in the Ramayana itself, it is said
that Brahma, Lord Brahma, who
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is the creative aspect in divinity, he
had blessed Valmiki that he would know
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exactly what had happened in each of
these events.
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That's why we call him a Maharishi as
well.
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Yes, he was a Maharishi.
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You know, I've always thought of this
word Maharishi and I discussed it once
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with, I think, Rajarshi Nandi.
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He said that one of the biggest
misconceptions about Sanatana Dharma is
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goal is simply enlightenment or moksha
or nirvana.
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But according to Tantra Shastra and
Tantra Vidya, there's many, many stages
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beyond the stage of enlightenment and
moksha. Like you go way beyond.
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Enlightenment is in fact a qualification
for the next stage of spiritual growth.
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What we commonly know as enlightenment.
And there's a long pathway up till God.
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Somewhere up there is the level of Rishi
and way beyond that is Maharishi, where
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you almost become eternal.
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And, you know, 12 ,000 BC is supposedly
when the Ramayana happened. And we're
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sitting here 14 ,000 years later still
talking about Maharishi Valmiki.
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Yes, this is an extraordinary text. No
doubt about it.
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Yeah, there was a divine element that
was flowing through him to write the
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details of this.
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Yes. Okay, now let's move on to war.
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Okay, so Hanuman had reported back and
Shriram asks him before leaving for
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Lanka, he asks him all about the layout
and fortifications of the city, the size
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and strength of the army, where the
different troops are located within the
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as well as at the gates.
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This was valuable military intelligence.
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See, Hanuman had observed Lanka.
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At night, when he was searching for
Sita.
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And then again, when Ravan ordered his
tail to be put on fire and he was
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around, Sri Hanuman made careful
observations about the layout of the
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this was the military intelligence he
now conveyed to Sri Ram.
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And then Ram gave orders for the army to
proceed south.
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Time was running out for Sita. They had
to get to Lanka fast.
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And when he asked the army to proceed
south, Ram gave detailed directions. He
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appointed specific people to guard the
front and rear of the army, the left and
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right flank.
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We're talking about Hampi right now,
right? Yes. We are in the region of
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at Kishkindha and we are going south
towards Lanka.
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Okay. Many times the Vanaras are shown
in popular culture or in popular
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of the Ramayana.
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as a disorganized bunch. So if this army
had to move south, they simply walked
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down. Well, they did walk down, but they
were very organized in this. Just like
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they had launched the search for Sita in
a very organized manner to the four
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corners of the world.
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Even now, there was a forward party
under the direction of Neel who found
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the best route for the army.
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Neel? Yes.
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He was a Vanar leader. And the forward
party had to determine The path that
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offered them enough food and water
sources.
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Make sure that the water sources weren't
poisoned by the enemy.
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They had to make sure that they did not
cause disturbances in the villages and
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agricultural fields that they passed by
and so on.
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So there was this forward army and then
a forward party and then behind that the
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main army.
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The army was so huge, millions of
Vanaras, that Valmiki says, It was
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like a sea that was coming south to meet
the ocean.
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Wow. As they walked, one night they were
resting for a while and Lakshman looked
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up at the sky and he remarked that the
stars seem to be aligned in our favor.
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And then he spoke about some specific
stars, constellations and their
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And these are the kind of clues that are
used again by researchers to date the
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events of the Ramayana.
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The army proceeded further. They walked
day and night with very little rest.
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And finally, they came to the southern
seashore.
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As they looked out to the sea, they were
stunned.
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How were they going to cross this?
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Valmiki says, the sea with its foaming
waves seemed to be laughing and dancing.
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How were they going to cross?
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Now, I had said last time as well, the
popular story of floating rocks is not
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mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayana.
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But Valmiki leaves us in suspense as to
how the army will actually cross and
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then shifts the scene to Lanka.
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In Lanka, Ravan was a little unnerved.
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Hanuman had caused great damage in the
city. He had killed many Rakshasas when
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he set fire to Lanka, remember.
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And now he had heard that an army was
marching towards Lanka.
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Ravan's younger brother Vibhishan was
telling him to let Sita go.
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and to avoid war.
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He told Ravan, why this war at all?
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Ram has not done anything wrong.
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It was Kher who attacked Ram and Ram
acted in self -defense.
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How can you blame him for that?
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This is the Shurpanakha chapter.
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Yes. So it started with Shurpanakha.
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Shurpanakha asked Kher to attack Ram.
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Kher attacked and got himself killed and
Ram wiped out all the Raksha's forces
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at Janasthan.
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Now, interestingly, in these
discussions, you know, we often go back
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oh, the Shurpan Kha incident, like you
just asked me.
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But no one mentions Shurpan Kha in this
incident.
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Between Vibhishan and Ravan, they are
only talking about what Ram did to Khar
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and the Rakshas forces.
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And that is why Ravan wants to take
revenge.
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He does not, his primary goal is not to
take revenge for what happened to shoot
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Pankaj. You know, sometimes we think
that that was his primary goal. And so
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was in some way justified in abducting
Sita. But that is totally incorrect.
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So Ravan then called a meeting of all
his senior most leaders to discuss this
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matter.
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An army was coming towards them and he
wanted to get their thoughts on this.
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I want to show you a short video to see
what is the Quality of discussion that
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is going on in Ravan's court.
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Addressing a packed court, Ravan said,
There is one matter I wish to discuss
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with all of you.
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I would have done it sooner, but
Kumbhakarna was not available, therefore
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slight delay.
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I have brought Sita, Ram's wife, from
Dandakaranya.
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No other woman is as beautiful and
charming as her.
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Oh, that gorgeous face, that slender
waist and those hips.
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My lust for her is driving me crazy.
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She refuses to climb into my bed.
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And Ram is reportedly on his way to
Lanka with an army of Vanaras.
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Please suggest what we should do now so
that Sita remains with me.
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Upon hearing this, Ravan's younger
brother Kumbhakarna said, What you have
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is not right.
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You should have consulted us before.
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But never mind.
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I will still support you.
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I will send off Ram to meet the Lord of
Death.
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And Sita will be yours forever.
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My brother, enjoy life.
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Mahaparshwa then spoke up.
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He did not think a woman's consent or
otherwise mattered in any way.
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He made this shocking suggestion.
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A man is a fool.
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if he finds a drink and does not drink
it.
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O
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Lord,
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just force yourself on Sita as a rooster
forces itself on a hen.
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Assault her again and again.
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Devour her and enjoy her.
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This is shocking.
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How could they say such things?
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Yes, Ravan's ideas on how women should
be treated were shared by those he had
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collected around himself.
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Ravan liked what Mahaparshwa said, but
replied, Let me tell you about an
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incident that happened a while back.
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I once crossed paths with the gorgeous
Punjikasthala.
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Afraid of me, she was trying to sneak
away.
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But, I
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caught hold of her, stripped her
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and ravished her.
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Afterward, she looked like a trampled
lotus.
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For this, I was cursed by Lord Brahma.
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That if I ever violated another woman in
such a manner, my head would split into
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a hundred pieces.
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And therefore, I cannot post myself on
Sita.
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Kind of stuff you can't show on national
television.
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That's why you've never heard this
aspect of the story before.
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Yes.
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You know, sometimes people think that
Ravan treated women very
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well. In fact, his treatment was
exemplary.
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Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Maharshi Valmiki has told us clearly
what he thought.
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Even earlier, he kidnapped Sita because
he had a fight with Ram.
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That's how it started, right?
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So he thought nothing on taking revenge
on the man by kidnapping his wife.
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And at that time, you would recall he
grabbed her by the hair, dragged her to
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the rat.
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Later on in Ashok one, he was ready to
punch her.
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And when Hanuman was looking for Sita,
he had gone to Ravan's bedchamber. We
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that there were hundreds of women that
he had abducted from different lands. In
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fact, he was very proud of that.
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He had showed off to Sita that you will
be the chief among them. Say yes to me.
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And now you saw the type of comments he
as well as his ministers made about
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Sita. Now in this assembly, Vibhishan
was the sane voice and he was telling
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Ravan to let Sita go and avoid war.
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He said, for the good of the Rakshasas,
for the good of Lanka, let Sita go.
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But Indrajit mocked him, Indrajit,
Ravan's son.
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He said, you are too scared to fight.
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And Ravan went on a rant against
Vibhishan.
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He called him names.
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And among them, by the way, he called
him an Arya, not Arya -like.
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So Ravan considered himself Arya, which
is a noble person.
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This has nothing to do with race.
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Vibhishan could not take it.
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He told Ravan, you are my elder brother
and I should respect you like a father.
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But you have lost your mind and you are
not on the path of dharma,
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righteousness.
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I cannot be a party to this.
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I shall leave now.
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Be well without me.
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And then Vibhishan left.
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And he went to meet Ram.
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Now Vibhishan also switched sides.
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But he was no backstabbing traitor.
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Again in popular culture sometimes
Vibhishan is thought of as a traitor.
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But see here he told Ravan in open court
that I am leaving.
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And Ram had not induced him to leave.
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And he left for a good reason. He was
saying what you are doing is wrong. I
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cannot be a party to this and so I shall
leave.
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Vibhishan went to meet Ram and he sent a
message that he was seeking refuge from
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Ram and he would like to join them.
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Sugreev was clearly against this. He
thought it was too risky. Here was a
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brother of Ravan coming and saying that
he wanted to join them.
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Perhaps this was a trick. He could try
and create divisions among them. So
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Sugreev recommended that they should not
allow Vibhishan to join.
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Angad and Jambavan also thought so.
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But Hanuman was willing to give him the
benefit of doubt.
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Also, Hanuman knew something that the
others didn't.
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When Hanuman had met Sita in Ashokwan,
in Lanka, Sita had told him that this
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younger brother of Ravan was trying to
secure her release.
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So with this information, Hanuman's
advice was that they should allow him
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Ram made his decision.
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He said, I grant him protection.
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Please bring him to me.
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And he also convinced Sugriv why that
was the right thing to do.
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Now, this incident brings out Ram's
leadership qualities.
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See, he was open -minded about
Vibhishan, even though he was Ravan's
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And for this important question, he
asked all his advisors what they thought
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it.
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The advisors had differing opinions.
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Ram then made a decision, which was a
risky call.
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He was willing to make this risky
decision, but he also explained his
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brought along the others who were
earlier speaking, who had earlier
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otherwise. Who were the advisors?
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Sugriv, Jambavan, Hanuman, all of them.
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Now, compare these leadership styles.
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You know, we just saw how Ram treated
this question. On the other hand, Ravan,
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he made the decision to abduct Sita and
pick a fight with Ram without consulting
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anyone. That is how...
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Ravan made his decision. And when he
heard that an army was marching towards
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him, he called his advisors for a
meeting and Vibhishan spoke up against
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threw him out.
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So these were two different leadership
styles.
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So now Vibhishan had joined them.
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But still the challenge in front of them
was how to cross the ocean.
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In fact, even earlier, at the end of
Sundarkand, you would remember Hanuman
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told Sita.
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gallantly, that before long you shall
hear the roar of the Vanaras.
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And Sita had asked him, but how will
they cross the ocean?
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Hanuman did not have an answer at that
time. But he had assured her. He had
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said, if I can do it, so can the others.
Don't worry about it.
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Even now, Sugriv told Ram, if somehow we
can cross the ocean, once we see the
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city of Lanka, consider Ravan dead.
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But how to cross the ocean was now
something Ram had to address.
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Valmiki then describes Ram's actions
very poetically.
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I'll tell you how he has actually
described it and then later what it
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Ram folded his hands in front of the
ocean and then lay down gazing at its
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waters for three days and three nights.
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That is how Maharishi Valmiki has
described it.
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And then he fired off arrows at the
ocean.
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The lord of the sea appeared and then
showed him the way to go across.
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What it means is that Ram stood gazing
at the sea. He was observing the sea for
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three days and three nights.
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The currents, the tides, the rise and
fall of water, how sandbanks and islands
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appeared in it.
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See, that part of the sea is very
shallow.
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So as the tide recedes, there are
sandbanks and small islands that come
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And Ram was trying to determine the best
location to construct the Setu.
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The place where the distance to the
other side is minimal.
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The tides and currents are favorable.
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And this is likely Rameshwaram? Yes,
most likely.
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In fact, from Rameshwaram, further out,
there is a place called Dhanushkodi. And
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then from then...
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You can see from satellite images that
there are small structures along the
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See, right now what we know is Ram has
identified the site selection.
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And then he asked Nall, the greatest
construction experts among the Vanaras,
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to construct the Setu.
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The idea of the Setu was very simple.
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They were going to fill up the sea with
big boulders, rocks, mud,
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and tree trunks on top.
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So this was a bund or an embankment, not
a floating bridge.
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Although the idea was very simple, the
scale of this project was staggering.
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Think about it. You're standing at the
seashore and somewhere far beyond the
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horizon, there is an island and your
plan is to fill up the sea and walk
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And then under the direction of Ram,
hundreds of thousands of Vanaras sprang
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into action.
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They went to the forest, cut boulders,
tree trunks, brought it all back to the
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shore and started filling up the sea.
Once again, they were very methodical.
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They used different types of devices,
yantraihi.
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Also, different teams were assigned to
do different tasks.
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Some worked on getting all the material,
others on tying up things, others on
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making measurements and so on.
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And slowly, the Setu started taking
shape.
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On the first day, they covered a
distance of 14 Yojanas.
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And then they picked up speed and over
the next four days, covered 20, 21, 22
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and 23 Yojanas.
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And thus, they covered the entire 100
Yojanas of the Setu.
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Remember, this was the distance that
Hanuman had to go across as well in our
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last session. Is anything said about the
time it took?
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Five days.
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Wow. Yes.
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In fact, this is very, Valmiki is very
specifically told about how much they
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covered on each day.
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It was a giant Setu, extremely well
constructed.
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In fact, the scale was astonishing,
beyond conception.
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And on this, Setu, millions of Vanaras
started walking across.
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By the way, this Setu, interestingly, in
the Ramayan is called Nal Setu, not Ram
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Setu. So named after the chief engineer.
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They walked across and without any
challenge from the Rakshasas, they
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close to the city of Lanka.
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Note, this is already a strategic
mistake by Ravan.
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He could have attacked this army as they
were landing on Lanka. That would have
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been a weaker point for them.
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But he allowed them to finish the Setu,
come across and come almost up to the
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city of Lanka.
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And the reason he did that was he was
not expecting this at all.
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See, Ravan was always very confident
that no army could cross the ocean. In
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fact, even now he said, what Ram has
done is unprecedented.
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I still can't believe it.
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Making a Setu across the ocean.
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He realized that he had clearly
underestimated the enemy.
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So he asked some of his spies to go into
the enemy camp and find out more about
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them. How many are they? Who are the
leaders? What are they telling Ram? And
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on. The spies, when they came back, they
reported to Ravan.
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And now here, Maharshi Valmiki takes a
detour. See, we've taken a few of these
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detours earlier.
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You would recall when Sugriv was sending
the parties to search for Sita.
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We looked at a detour about a world
atlas, geography, at another time about
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botany or the kachit discussion right in
the beginning in Chitrakoot between
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Bharat and Ram, which was a detour on
governance, the oldest text on
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And now this detour is on mathematical
terms.
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So this is an interesting point to put
this detour.
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Ravan has asked, how many are they?
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And the spies are giving that answer.
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How large is the enemy?
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I'll show you some of the actual verses
here.
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So the first verse.
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100 of 100 ,000 is called 1 crore.
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So 100 lakh is 1 crore. He's defining 10
raised to the power 7.
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And then further he says.
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100 ,000 crores is one shanku, which is
10 raised to the power 12, or in today's
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terms, trillion.
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1, 0, 0, 0, 12 zeros is one shanku.
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And then over the next few slokas, he is
describing 100 ,000 shankus make
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up maha shanku. 100 ,000 maha shankus is
equal to one vrinda.
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And it goes on.
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Maha Vrinda, Padma, Maha Padma, Kharva,
Maha Kharva, Samudra, Ogha and Maha
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Ogha.
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A Maha Ogha has 10 raised to the power
60 zeros.
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Wow. Why do we need math like this?
Exactly.
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Now that's an interesting question.
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The fact that Murphy Valmiki has defined
these terms means the mathematicians of
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that time required these terms. Whether
it's for astronomical calculations or
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construction.
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Some sort of precision.
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00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,720
And the scale of calculations.
429
00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:49,160
Also, clearly this is an exaggeration.
430
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,780
If you look at the total, so by the way,
the spies after they finish all these
431
00:29:53,780 --> 00:30:00,520
definitions, they say the Vanara army is
many, many Maha Oghas, right? More than
432
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,520
10 raised to the power 60.
433
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,440
This is clearly an exaggeration because
if you look at the total surface area of
434
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,090
the earth, And you assume that, let's
say, one Vanara needs even one square
435
00:30:10,090 --> 00:30:11,090
foot.
436
00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:16,050
Then so many Vanaras cannot fit on the
earth. Not only the earth, they cannot
437
00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:20,270
fit even if you pack them on all the
planets of the solar system. Or even a
438
00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:23,230
trillion earths are not enough. So
clearly this is an exaggeration.
439
00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:29,490
Now, so Maharshi Valmiki, as far as the
size goes, the answer is it was a huge
440
00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:33,990
army. And he has used this to define
these mathematical terms.
441
00:30:35,470 --> 00:30:38,290
So this huge army was at Ravan's
doorstep.
442
00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:45,810
But he was more interested in playing
dirty tricks and intrigue
443
00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:47,950
rather than preparing for battle.
444
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:53,110
He came up with a plan to deceive Sita
and get her to submit to him.
445
00:30:54,270 --> 00:31:01,210
He called the Rakshas Vidyujjiva and
instructed him to make a lifelike
446
00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:02,210
of Ram's head.
447
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,620
Vidyut Jiva was an expert in this and he
made a very realistic model.
448
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,140
And then Ravan went to meet Sita.
449
00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:15,240
He told her cheerfully, Your dear
husband is dead.
450
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:16,740
You fool.
451
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,960
You kept refusing me because you thought
that Ram will come and save you.
452
00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:22,780
But how will he come now?
453
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,500
Let me tell you how it all happened.
454
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,340
Ram was coming here together with some
Vanaras and they had camped on the other
455
00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:32,600
side of the ocean.
456
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:37,100
And my forces under the leadership of
Prahat went there at night.
457
00:31:37,660 --> 00:31:42,920
And while Ram was sleeping, Prahat's
sword sliced through his neck without
458
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,920
problem.
459
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,920
I have got his blood -soaked head for
you to see.
460
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:52,920
Then he turned to the Rakshasis and
said, Go and get Vidyut Jiva. He was the
461
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,300
who got the head from the battlefield.
462
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,820
Vidyut Jiva came on cue and he threw the
head at Sita's feet.
463
00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:02,820
Sita screamed.
464
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,780
She thought this was Ram's head.
465
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:09,600
She sank to the ground, cried bitterly.
466
00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:12,200
Sita was completely crushed.
467
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:19,100
But even then, Ravan could not get what
he wanted, her consent. That was out of
468
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:20,100
the question.
469
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,620
Just then, a messenger came and told
Ravan, Aryaputra, there is a matter that
470
00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:28,160
the ministers want to discuss with you.
471
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:30,680
Please come to the court urgently.
472
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,320
And Ravan went away.
473
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,620
Sita was still trembling. One of the
Rakshasis that had been put to guard her
474
00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:41,080
had become friendly with her.
475
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,980
And she told Sita, don't worry about it.
476
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,700
This is all a trick.
477
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:50,720
Ram is well. In fact, the army has
crossed over to this side.
478
00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:56,060
There is going to be a war soon. In
fact, you can hear the preparations for
479
00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:56,959
war.
480
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,300
Don't worry. You shall soon be with Ram.
481
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:07,200
In Ravan's court, there were people who
were making last -ditch efforts to try
482
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,180
and save, try and avert war.
483
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,620
Ravan's own mother told him to let Sita
go.
484
00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:18,880
Ravan's maternal grandfather said, make
peace with Ram.
485
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,220
It is not wise to fight him.
486
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,960
But Ravan was clear.
487
00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:33,290
I may get cut into two pieces, but I
will never bend.
488
00:33:33,890 --> 00:33:38,090
Meanwhile, in the Vanar camp, Ram was
making preparations for the attack.
489
00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:43,670
He assigned specific people to attack
the different gates of the city the next
490
00:33:43,670 --> 00:33:49,810
day. He also told everyone not to take
off their Vanar attire because this was
491
00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:51,470
going to be a battle at close quarters.
492
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:55,550
So the Vanar attire will tell who is on
which side.
493
00:33:58,250 --> 00:34:03,470
Which probably also means that the
Raksha's army looked like normal human
494
00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:04,970
beings. Yes, yes.
495
00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:11,670
Okay. Later that night, as Ram looked up
at the skyline of Lanka,
496
00:34:11,929 --> 00:34:17,670
he thought that one person makes a
mistake and so many have to suffer. He
497
00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:19,150
that this would be a terrible war.
498
00:34:19,429 --> 00:34:22,070
Both sides would suffer heavy
casualties.
499
00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:26,130
And he decided to make one last attempt
at peace.
500
00:34:27,179 --> 00:34:32,000
So in the morning, he sent Angad to
speak to Ravan.
501
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:34,739
Angad went to Ravan's court.
502
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,199
Ravan was sitting on his magnificent
throne.
503
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:41,000
Angad introduced himself.
504
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,400
He said, I am Wali's son and Ram's
messenger.
505
00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:47,719
My name is Angad.
506
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,800
You may have heard about me.
507
00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:53,960
Honestly, when it comes to Angad, it's a
character that fascinated me a lot.
508
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,700
ever since I saw the animated Ramayana
because that, again, for the child in
509
00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:58,800
that's my reference point.
510
00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:03,220
They've shown him very beautifully in
that film.
511
00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:08,260
You don't hear too much about Angad when
someone is skimming through the story
512
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:13,860
of the Ramayana, but certain retellings
highlight him a lot. So there is this
513
00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:17,880
one interaction that he has with Ravan
that I loosely remember where he
514
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,440
showcases acrobatics and something
around his tail. I can't remember the
515
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,090
story. Yes, in fact, in popular
retellings, this is where it comes.
516
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:31,390
So in other retellings, not in the
Valmiki Ramayana, it is said that Angad
517
00:35:31,390 --> 00:35:33,190
his tail to a great length.
518
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:39,170
He coiled it and then sat on top of it
so that he was at an equal height to
519
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:40,170
Ravan.
520
00:35:40,650 --> 00:35:45,550
Now, in the Valmiki Ramayana, that is
not described. But I just told you how
521
00:35:45,550 --> 00:35:49,170
spoke to Ravan, even though he is a
young boy, maybe a teenager.
522
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:54,320
And he said, You know, to this great
king of the Rakshasas, he spoke to him
523
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,299
an equal.
524
00:35:55,300 --> 00:36:01,360
Now, many times the story of Ramayana is
depicted in sculptures or paintings,
525
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,660
right? How do you show confidence in
stone?
526
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,700
So this is a beautiful way.
527
00:36:07,140 --> 00:36:12,080
The coiled tail and raising himself at a
height, a beautiful way to depict that
528
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,220
Angad spoke to him with confidence.
529
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,900
So many of the other retellings, you
know, they are...
530
00:36:19,210 --> 00:36:23,050
they are true to the spirit of the
Valmiki Ramayana, even though they may
531
00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:24,110
telling the story differently.
532
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:29,510
Just now we had also heard the story of
how the Setu was constructed.
533
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:34,890
Now the later retellings where they talk
about the Vanaras writing Ram's name on
534
00:36:34,890 --> 00:36:37,630
rock and because of which the rocks were
floating.
535
00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:43,910
Again, it conveys the sentiment that the
Vanaras were inspired by Ram in every
536
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:48,810
step. So once we understand the Valmiki
Ramayana, we can actually understand
537
00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:51,950
Understand and appreciate the other
versions as well. Even though they are
538
00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:53,350
telling the story in a different way.
539
00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:57,770
And then he gave Ram's message to Ravan.
540
00:36:58,290 --> 00:36:59,750
You vile rakshas.
541
00:37:00,910 --> 00:37:03,750
For too long people have suffered
because of you.
542
00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:05,190
But no more.
543
00:37:06,730 --> 00:37:10,250
It was so brave of you to kidnap Sita
while I was away.
544
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:14,330
Well now is the time to show your
bravery once again.
545
00:37:14,770 --> 00:37:16,370
But this time on the battlefield.
546
00:37:17,050 --> 00:37:18,390
Come out and fight with me.
547
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:23,810
But before you come, make sure you have
done the preparations for your last
548
00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:24,810
rites.
549
00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:28,730
For I will surely kill you and everyone
who supports you.
550
00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:31,490
This was Ram's message delivered by
Angad.
551
00:37:33,490 --> 00:37:35,190
Ravan was crazed with anger.
552
00:37:36,010 --> 00:37:38,370
And he ordered, kill this vanar.
553
00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:44,330
Once again note, Ravan paid no heed to
the code among kings that an ambassador
554
00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,970
or envoy should not be killed.
555
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,840
But he gave the orders to kill.
556
00:37:48,340 --> 00:37:50,660
Four Rakshasas came and grabbed Angad.
557
00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:56,640
And that's when Angad threw them off
swiftly and they went tumbling.
558
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,000
And he jumped onto a balcony.
559
00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:04,460
And there he kicked and broke the
balcony, destroyed the roof.
560
00:38:04,820 --> 00:38:08,780
And then jumping from one rooftop to the
next, he went out of the city.
561
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:13,120
Ravan had rejected the last peace offer.
562
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,100
So now it was time.
563
00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:17,640
to charge on to the gates of Lanka.
564
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,320
Ram gave the orders.
565
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,660
And remember, Lanka had a boundary wall
and outside the wall there was a moat.
566
00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:30,300
But this was hardly a challenge for the
Vanaras. They had just filled up the
567
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:35,440
sea. So filling up the moat was fairly
simple. Once again, they filled it up
568
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,860
with rocks and mud and logs of wood and
charged on the gates.
569
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,680
The gates came crashing down. They broke
the boundary wall as well at some
570
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,700
point. And then Ravan gave the order to
counter -attack.
571
00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:52,060
This is the beginning of the battle?
This is the beginning of the battle.
572
00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:57,780
There's the very common story about
Ravan being a Shiva Bhakt and praying to
573
00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:00,000
Shiva for his powers, etc.
574
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:07,020
Is anything said about Ravan's spiritual
journey or his tantra -based journey at
575
00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:08,260
all in the Valmiki Ramayana?
576
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,100
No, those things are emphasized much
more in the later retellings.
577
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,500
In the Valmiki Ramayan, Ravan is a great
warrior, no doubt.
578
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,180
And even as far as preparations go,
there is no puja that he does at the
579
00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:29,060
beginning. He prepares his arms and gets
ready for battle. By the way, in this
580
00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:33,640
first instance, he does not come out
himself. So he will come out in some
581
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,060
But there is no mention of him going
about any spiritual practice.
582
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Not in the Valmiki Ramayan, from Balakan
to the Yudhakan.
583
00:39:44,010 --> 00:39:47,230
Right in the beginning, I think we had
once spoken about the Uttarakhand.
584
00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:50,990
Remember that the Uttarakhand was not
written by Valmiki.
585
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:56,050
So whenever I'm saying that something is
or is not a part of the Valmiki
586
00:39:56,050 --> 00:40:00,610
Ramayana, I'm talking about Balakand to
Yuddakand. Gotcha. These are all
587
00:40:00,610 --> 00:40:03,310
additional anecdotes. Yes. Okay.
588
00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:04,750
Now let's move on.
589
00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:07,710
So Ravan gave the order to
counterattack.
590
00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:12,570
And the Rakshasas came with their
horses, chariots, elephants.
591
00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:17,480
They had all the yastras and shastras,
bows and arrows, spears. See, the
592
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,040
had nothing. They were fighting with
rocks, tree trunks, their bare hands.
593
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,120
And the Rakshasami was extremely well
equipped.
594
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,900
And they were able to push back the
Vanaras a little bit. So most of the
595
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:31,520
happened outside the city gates.
596
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,480
Although they had broken through the
gates on the first day itself, the
597
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,260
battleground was outside the city.
598
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,040
Again, tiny interjection.
599
00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:48,080
You believe after studying the Valmiki
Ramayana that this was the island of Sri
600
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,200
Lanka. Yes.
601
00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:50,420
Right? Yes.
602
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:58,500
My question to you is that part of India
where Rameshwaram is, right? You see
603
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,580
that little strip of land that joins the
island of Sri Lanka.
604
00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:08,160
So within Sri Lanka, is there a
particular geographical location that
605
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160
was the location of this battle?
606
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:14,000
See, based on the descriptions of the
Valmiki Ramayana, you cannot accurately
607
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,880
pinpoint where exactly on the island it
took place.
608
00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:22,040
But it's possibly near that strip of
land that we see on geographical maps.
609
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,780
No, the strip of land connected it to
the larger island of Lanka.
610
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,580
But we don't know exactly where. As far
as the descriptions of the Valmiki
611
00:41:30,580 --> 00:41:32,420
Ramayana goes. Have you been to Sri
Lanka yourself?
612
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,820
Yes, yes. You have? Yes. I think we
spoke about this in our first episode,
613
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:35,900
right? Yes.
614
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,360
What did you feel there?
615
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,180
No, like all the...
616
00:41:39,850 --> 00:41:46,690
descriptions of the main locations,
Ayodhya, Panchavati, Kishkindha and
617
00:41:46,690 --> 00:41:50,910
Lanka, right? There is a feeling.
618
00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:57,790
So you asked me what I felt, right? In
all these locations, there is a special
619
00:41:57,790 --> 00:42:04,790
feeling that these locations have been
witness to what Shri Ram,
620
00:42:04,850 --> 00:42:08,170
Lakshman, Sita and Hanuman did. So it's
a special feeling.
621
00:42:08,530 --> 00:42:11,610
Gotcha. Okay, I will let you carry on
with the story.
622
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:13,490
Now the war is at close combat.
623
00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:17,710
See, the Rakshasas have lost another
strategic advantage.
624
00:42:18,930 --> 00:42:22,430
First of all, they were on an island.
They could have attacked the army as it
625
00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:23,430
was landing.
626
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:28,230
Secondly, they had arms that they could
fire from a distance, bows and arrows,
627
00:42:28,410 --> 00:42:29,410
spears.
628
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:33,210
They could have attacked the army while
it was still outside the boundary wall.
629
00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:35,830
But now it was a man -to -man combat.
630
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:38,690
And this played to the Vanaras'
advantage.
631
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:45,220
And on this first day, the Vanaras kept
winning again and again. Although both
632
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:50,020
sides suffered heavy casualties, the
Rakshasas were losing more numbers, they
633
00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:56,240
were losing their leaders. But then the
tide turned because of someone who
634
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,800
fought in a very different way. And this
was Ravan's son Indrajit.
635
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:06,960
Valmiki says he made himself invisible,
adrishya.
636
00:43:08,430 --> 00:43:12,190
In other words, he fought in a way that
it was extremely difficult to figure out
637
00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:13,250
where he was firing from.
638
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:19,350
Stealth. Stealth. He would fire from
behind the enemy lines, not right at the
639
00:43:19,350 --> 00:43:20,109
front lines.
640
00:43:20,110 --> 00:43:25,330
Also, he would fire things that would
explode in the air and then release
641
00:43:25,330 --> 00:43:28,110
arrows. So you don't know where he is
firing from.
642
00:43:29,310 --> 00:43:35,310
And he killed hundreds of Vanaras. He
caused great destruction in the Vanar
643
00:43:35,310 --> 00:43:36,310
army.
644
00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:40,850
And then he targeted Ram and Lakshman.
Soon they were bleeding heavily.
645
00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:45,130
His arrows were laced with poison. So
they couldn't even react.
646
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:49,650
And then Ram and Lakshman collapsed on
the ground.
647
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:51,790
Unconscious.
648
00:43:52,890 --> 00:43:56,230
And Indrajit incorrectly thought that
his job was done.
649
00:43:56,730 --> 00:43:58,230
And he went back into the city.
650
00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:02,950
He went and reported to Ravan that he
had killed Ram and Lakshman.
651
00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:06,010
Ravan got up, hugged his son.
652
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,500
and thought that the war was over on the
very first day.
653
00:44:09,740 --> 00:44:13,920
Outside, the Vanaras made a protective
circle around Ram and Lakshman.
654
00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:17,000
They were only unconscious, not dead.
655
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,140
Ram regained consciousness after some
time, but he was grievously injured.
656
00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:29,320
Sugriv asked Sushena, who was the
medical expert among the Vanaras,
657
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,140
should take back Ram and Lakshman to
Kishkindha to recover. But Sushena said
658
00:44:33,140 --> 00:44:35,440
that they had to quickly administer two
herbs.
659
00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:40,650
Sanjeevani and Vishalya Karani to Ram
and Lakshman.
660
00:44:41,650 --> 00:44:43,150
Now, where to get these herbs?
661
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:47,090
Wow. Until now, the traditional story
I've heard is that it was just Lakshman
662
00:44:47,090 --> 00:44:48,430
Bhagwan who collapsed.
663
00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:50,210
That is coming later.
664
00:44:50,810 --> 00:44:53,730
Okay, wow. Yes, that happens again. This
is the first time I'm hearing this
665
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:58,390
story. So right now, Ram and Lakshman
both need Sanjeevani and Vishalya
666
00:44:58,530 --> 00:45:02,830
They're discussing where to get it from.
And at that time, a Garuda appears.
667
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,620
Garud were also forest dwellers who
dressed up like eagles.
668
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,160
So we have seen forest dwellers who
dressed up like monkeys or bears or
669
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,680
vultures. This one dressed up like an
eagle. He came and he took out the
670
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,480
from Ram and Lakshman's bodies, nursed
their wounds and they recovered.
671
00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:24,160
And Ram asked him, who are you?
672
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,500
And all he said was, I am your friend, O
Kakutth.
673
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,100
These Rakshasas don't fight fair.
674
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,760
Be careful.
675
00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:39,930
So, you see, people not associated with
the war also, like this Garud, were
676
00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:40,930
rooting for Ram.
677
00:45:41,110 --> 00:45:46,030
And the Garud himself said, I heard that
you were in trouble, so I came to help
678
00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:47,030
you.
679
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:52,390
We saw this earlier as well. King Guha
in Sringaverpur, he was ready to lay
680
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:56,730
his life for Ram, even though he had not
asked for it. Or Jatayu, who gave up
681
00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:58,050
his life trying to protect Sita.
682
00:45:58,310 --> 00:46:04,400
So, all of these communities and
peoples, had immense, the Ikshwakus had
683
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,260
goodwill among them and they were all
rooting for Ram's success.
684
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:14,720
Poetically, so I believe Garud is also
Vishnu Bhagwan's one, right? That is the
685
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:20,360
animal associated with Lord Vishnu,
whose avatar is Shri Ram.
686
00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:27,380
So when Ram and Lakshman recovered,
there was a roar among the Vanaras and
687
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:28,680
heard that roar in his court.
688
00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:30,860
See, he was prematurely celebrating.
689
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,920
that he had won the war. But when he
heard the roar, he realized that
690
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,540
was wrong. And when he found out, he
ordered his army to attack once again.
691
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:41,540
Vanaras were winning.
692
00:46:41,980 --> 00:46:45,660
Both sides suffered heavy casualties,
but the Vanaras were winning.
693
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,580
And then Ravan came out for the first
time into the battlefield.
694
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:57,560
By the way, when he came out,
interestingly, Vibhishan pointed him out
695
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:03,780
And it's interesting that Vibhishan said
there, in that distance, the towering
696
00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:09,640
person under the white kshatra, canopy,
who's radiant like the sun, that is
697
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Ravan.
698
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:17,720
We spoke about Ravan's ten heads,
whether it was a throne or actually he
699
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:21,400
heads. Now think about it. If he really
had ten heads, one in the middle, five
700
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,500
on one side, four on the other, how
would Vibhishan have pointed him out?
701
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,700
There, that person with the ten heads,
that is Ravan. That's not what Vibhishan
702
00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:34,300
said. Ravan laid into the Vanaras. He
was causing great destruction.
703
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,540
But Ram went and engaged with him.
704
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:44,080
And Ram struck an arrow in Ravan's
chest, which hit him like a thunderbolt,
705
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,080
he dropped his bow.
706
00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:48,560
Ram's next arrow took off Ravan's crown.
707
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,340
And then Ravan went back into the city.
708
00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:54,020
He retreated.
709
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,260
See, Ravan was a great warrior, but he
knew his own limitations. He was not
710
00:47:58,260 --> 00:47:59,260
invincible.
711
00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:05,380
Even earlier, he did not attack Ram head
on in Panchavati. He took him away,
712
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:12,160
deceiving him and then abducted Sita.
And even now, he realized that he needed
713
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,160
to retreat to fight another day.
714
00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:19,840
When we're thinking about this battle,
what is the kind of weaponry that one
715
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,280
should visualize?
716
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,260
Because it's usually bows and arrows and
swords.
717
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,320
We spoke about Indrajit briefly.
718
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,660
Sounds very similar to the Mahabharata
weaponry of like arrows that kind of are
719
00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:33,920
like missiles, poisonous arrows, etc.
720
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,640
So what do you visualize when it comes
to weaponry?
721
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,900
It is all that you said.
722
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:42,040
But in addition, this is a very strange
war.
723
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,240
That one side has none of this.
724
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,240
All the weaponry is on one side only.
725
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,220
The Vanaras...
726
00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:57,030
fought with their bare hands and they
would punch, kick,
727
00:48:57,210 --> 00:49:02,030
throw stones, even bite or they would
pick up the weapons of the Rakshasas
728
00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:03,890
themselves and hit them.
729
00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:11,690
In fact, I want to show you some clips
from the battle scene itself for you to
730
00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:12,690
visualize this.
731
00:49:13,610 --> 00:49:16,950
Ravan was furious when he learned what
had happened.
732
00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:20,130
He then sent off Vajradhanashtra.
733
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:21,760
to lead the next charge.
734
00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:26,920
Vajradhanashtra led his forces out of
the southern gate.
735
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,600
Here the Vanarami was under the charge
of the young Angad.
736
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,820
Once again, it was a dreadful fight.
737
00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:42,660
Soon the battleground was littered with
severed heads, limbs and torsos.
738
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,640
Crows and vultures gathered for the
feast.
739
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,980
Angad started working his way towards
Vajradhanashtra, who was causing many
740
00:49:58,980 --> 00:50:00,840
casualties among the Vanaras.
741
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,540
The Rakshas saw him coming and struck
him with a volley of arrows.
742
00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:12,360
Angad's body was drenched in blood, but
he kept going closer.
743
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:14,440
And then...
744
00:50:14,910 --> 00:50:19,550
Angad threw a large rock at
Vajradhanashtra's chariot and wrecked
745
00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:24,510
This forced the Rakshas to fight Angad
in a hand -to -hand duel.
746
00:50:25,950 --> 00:50:30,790
Just like Hanuman, Angad had forced his
adversary off his chariot.
747
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:36,150
Engaging their enemies at close quarters
paid to the Vanaras' advantage.
748
00:50:37,770 --> 00:50:42,390
Angad and Vajradhanashtra punched and
hit each other viciously.
749
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:47,240
Both were soon exhausted and started
vomiting blood.
750
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,960
Angad picked up a tree trunk and the
rakshas grabbed a sword.
751
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:04,760
They struck each other until both were
so tired that they fell to their knees.
752
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,940
And then Angad tapped his last bit of
energy.
753
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:15,780
He pounced on Vajradhanashtra, grabbed
his sword in a flash and cut off his
754
00:51:15,780 --> 00:51:16,780
head.
755
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,900
The Rakshas troops lost courage upon
seeing their fallen general and ran back
756
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:23,900
Lanka.
757
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:29,280
Ravan then ordered Akampan to lead the
next Rakshas assault.
758
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:34,440
Akampan also targeted the Vanar troops
near the western gate.
759
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:36,840
Valmiki said,
760
00:51:37,610 --> 00:51:42,210
The warring forces kicked up a cloud of
dust that covered the entire
761
00:51:42,210 --> 00:51:43,210
battlefield.
762
00:51:43,890 --> 00:51:45,790
One could not see much.
763
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:53,570
But after some time, the dust settled
because the ground had become soaked
764
00:51:53,570 --> 00:51:54,570
with blood.
765
00:51:55,410 --> 00:51:58,390
And then a terrible picture emerged.
766
00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:02,670
The battlefield was covered with dead
bodies.
767
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:12,350
I have to break away from the story just
a little bit.
768
00:52:12,570 --> 00:52:15,670
Couple of things. Sure. First thing I
want to say is, wow.
769
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:17,310
Love the battle parts.
770
00:52:17,830 --> 00:52:21,810
And this is the kind of stuff, again,
that's not spoken about in lore.
771
00:52:22,110 --> 00:52:23,690
I didn't even know this Angad story.
772
00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:29,210
And, you know, this was a relentless
war. Day and night. It was not like the
773
00:52:29,210 --> 00:52:31,710
Mahabharata from daybreak till sunset.
774
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,320
Yeah, I've always wondered this about
the Ramayan battle. In fact, when we
775
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,660
started this series, this is the episode
I was looking forward to the most
776
00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:43,260
because it's the one that's the most
crowded in mystery because we've not
777
00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:44,900
shown it in commercial media.
778
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,680
That's the first thing I want to say.
779
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,900
The second thing I want to say is when
I'm viewing your work, there's a part of
780
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:57,980
me that views it as a content creator,
as an editor and the kind of music
781
00:52:57,980 --> 00:52:59,120
used, the kind of...
782
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:05,000
words you've chosen to use like what I
sense and I'm not just saying this
783
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,240
because you're sitting in front of me
this is a very objective opinion I
784
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:13,280
genuinely feel that Maharishi Valmiki's
energy is flowing through you to make
785
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,380
this happen the only compliment for you
here is honestly I feel you've been
786
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:25,100
humble enough through the storytelling
process to allow that higher energy to
787
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:29,570
flow through you like So many people are
trying to do this exact job that you've
788
00:53:29,570 --> 00:53:34,570
done. But I think you had the right
mindset to do the story in a very true
789
00:53:34,570 --> 00:53:39,630
the art form way. Thank you very much.
I'm truly humbled to hear this.
790
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:45,850
My entire effort has been to make sure
I'm conveying what Maharshi Valmiki
791
00:53:45,850 --> 00:53:51,470
to say and not my interpretation or, you
know, there should be as little of me.
792
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,000
And people find out what is it that is
actually said in the Valmiki Ramayana.
793
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,860
It's been a very humbling experience for
me also to sit in front of you because
794
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:05,560
at my age, 31, with this kind of glamour
around me, one of the challenges has
795
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,860
been to, you know, tread carefully along
this path and not become arrogant and
796
00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:14,100
all that. But when I meet people like
you who are doing this kind of work in
797
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:18,660
such a humble way, plus you had a
flourishing business career, all that,
798
00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:19,660
still this guy.
799
00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:24,500
God chose you to say this story for our
generation.
800
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:29,740
There's a lot of learning, even
subliminally, beyond just the story.
801
00:54:29,740 --> 00:54:33,780
so much for saying that. Thanks for
coming to the studio. And we inaugurated
802
00:54:33,780 --> 00:54:38,220
studio with you and my mother. So I'm
glad. Yes, the first episode we did.
803
00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:42,620
Please go on now. Pardon this short
tangent.
804
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:43,900
Not at all.
805
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:47,540
So we saw that the Vanaras were winning.
806
00:54:48,830 --> 00:54:52,690
even though they had no arms. In fact,
they were doing this repeatedly. They
807
00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:57,690
would force the Rakshasas off their
chariot by breaking it, force them into
808
00:54:57,690 --> 00:54:59,990
hand -to -hand duel and then finish them
off.
809
00:55:00,530 --> 00:55:04,930
Ravan realized he had to do something
different. Even he had stepped out but
810
00:55:04,930 --> 00:55:10,570
retreated. And as he considered his
options, he realized that there was one
811
00:55:10,570 --> 00:55:15,450
person he wanted to call on and that was
Kumbhakarna, his brother.
812
00:55:16,810 --> 00:55:18,390
If only he could wake him up.
813
00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:24,870
See, Kumbhakarna suffered from a medical
condition, an endocrinological
814
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:29,790
disorder, because of which he would
sleep for many days at a time.
815
00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:34,950
And when he woke up, he was very hungry.
And right now he was sleeping.
816
00:55:35,730 --> 00:55:38,050
So Ravan's challenge was to wake him up.
817
00:55:39,090 --> 00:55:42,490
He sent some people to do this job.
818
00:55:42,970 --> 00:55:47,350
And Valmiki's description of how they
woke him up is very interesting.
819
00:55:48,610 --> 00:55:51,350
So they went into a subterranean palace.
820
00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:54,750
And as they went in, Kumbhakarna was
sleeping.
821
00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:59,610
And his breath, as he exhaled, almost
blew them away.
822
00:56:00,190 --> 00:56:02,810
So he is described here as a giant.
823
00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:08,670
They called out his name. They beat
drums to try and wake him up. Blasted
824
00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:10,830
conches. But none of it worked.
825
00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:13,770
Then they started pulling his hair.
826
00:56:14,510 --> 00:56:16,050
They hit him with maces.
827
00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:18,370
Even that did not wake him up.
828
00:56:19,830 --> 00:56:25,910
Finally, the description is they got
thousands of elephants to run up and
829
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:31,090
his body to finally wake him up.
Clearly, this is an exaggeration.
830
00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:39,070
He stretched himself, yawned, got up and
he was famished.
831
00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:41,050
They had brought
832
00:56:43,130 --> 00:56:45,450
mounds of meat for him to eat.
833
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:47,350
Pig, buffalo, deer.
834
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:49,870
Did he mention?
835
00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:52,250
Yes. Pig, buffalo and deer meat.
836
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:53,470
Yes.
837
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:57,570
And not just that, he also had a lot of
wine to go with that as well as big jars
838
00:56:57,570 --> 00:56:58,570
of blood.
839
00:56:59,590 --> 00:57:04,610
That was his food. And refreshed, he
went to meet Ravan.
840
00:57:06,110 --> 00:57:08,670
Ravan told him what was going on in the
battlefield.
841
00:57:09,370 --> 00:57:10,690
And Kumbhakarna laughed.
842
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:15,540
And he said, we had warned you earlier,
but you didn't listen to us.
843
00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:19,560
Now you are suffering the results of
your own actions.
844
00:57:20,180 --> 00:57:22,140
So there was some goodness in
Kumbhakarna.
845
00:57:22,580 --> 00:57:27,900
Yes, interestingly. And Kumbhakarna also
gave him a lecture on why it's
846
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:32,060
important to have a good balance between
righteousness, wealth creation and
847
00:57:32,060 --> 00:57:33,060
enjoying pleasures.
848
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,240
But Ravan told him, don't give me a
lecture like a teacher. I need your help
849
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,240
right now.
850
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:44,690
Kumbhakarna said, don't worry, I'll take
care of this for you.
851
00:57:46,050 --> 00:57:51,670
Earlier as well, remember in the court,
when in the showdown with Vibhishan,
852
00:57:51,830 --> 00:57:53,310
Kumbhakarna had also been there.
853
00:57:54,690 --> 00:58:00,870
And even then, he did not agree with
what Ravan had done. But he said, even
854
00:58:00,870 --> 00:58:01,848
I will support you.
855
00:58:01,850 --> 00:58:04,030
Now Kumbhakarna stepped out into battle.
856
00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:07,450
Once again, Valmiki talks of him as a
giant.
857
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:08,910
And how big?
858
00:58:10,190 --> 00:58:16,450
eyes were the size of chariot wheels and
his height was equal to 600 bows
859
00:58:16,450 --> 00:58:21,910
placed next to each other. Once again,
it is clearly an exaggeration. 600 bows,
860
00:58:22,090 --> 00:58:27,170
you know, five feet for one. If you
calculate, it's about 3000 feet or more.
861
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:28,290
That's a kilometer.
862
00:58:29,770 --> 00:58:35,950
Some people wonder why we shouldn't take
everything that is written in the
863
00:58:35,950 --> 00:58:38,010
Valmiki Ramayana exactly as it is.
864
00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:44,810
Well, Clearly, these are exaggerations.
A person who is a kilometer tall is not
865
00:58:44,810 --> 00:58:49,270
possible. Even if someone were very
tall, how would he fit into Ravan's
866
00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:51,370
How would Ravan talk to him and so on?
867
00:58:52,890 --> 00:58:57,910
Anyway, Kumbhakarna stepped into the
battlefield and he started killing the
868
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:59,030
Vanaras by the hundreds.
869
00:59:00,190 --> 00:59:06,750
His weapons of choice were not bows and
arrows. He used clubs, maces, things he
870
00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:08,210
could hit with, even his fist.
871
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:15,200
And because he was so large, Valmiki
says, with just one hit of his club, he
872
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,640
would kill a hundred Vanaras.
873
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:21,780
Or he would scoop them up with his hand,
10 and 20 at a time and eat them.
874
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,560
In short, Kumbhakarna was causing great
damage among the Vanaras, great
875
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,560
casualties.
876
00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:33,640
And Shri Ram stepped up to fight with
him.
877
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,620
He fired off the Y of Yastra and cut off
his right hand.
878
00:59:39,950 --> 00:59:41,890
Kumbhakarna flew into a wild rage.
879
00:59:42,090 --> 00:59:46,830
He took a tree and started charging
towards Ram. With his left hand, he
880
00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:47,830
a tree.
881
00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:51,410
But Ram fired another arrow and cut off
his left hand too.
882
00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:55,970
And then Ram fired arrows at his legs to
immobilize him.
883
00:59:56,590 --> 01:00:00,870
And then with one final arrow, Ram cut
off his head.
884
01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:06,550
The giant's lifeless body crashed to the
ground. And that was the end of
885
01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:07,550
Kumbhakarna.
886
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,820
When Ravan heard about this, he was
heartbroken.
887
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,680
He said, with my brother gone, I don't
want to live.
888
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:22,760
This kingdom has no meaning for me. What
will I do with Sita?
889
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,440
He was crying bitterly.
890
01:00:27,220 --> 01:00:32,860
Indrajit could not see his father like
this and he stepped out into battle.
891
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,900
Indrajit, remember, is now the only
person among the Rakshas leaders who has
892
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,120
scored a win in this battle. On the
first day, he had injured Ram and
893
01:00:40,260 --> 01:00:43,260
thought his job was done and had come
back into the city.
894
01:00:44,540 --> 01:00:46,320
Indrajit came out once again.
895
01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:50,140
Before I let you continue, another tiny
question.
896
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,940
Because we spoke about Vibhishan,
Kumbhakaran and Ravan, three brothers.
897
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,980
Is anything said about their parents?
898
01:00:58,020 --> 01:01:02,380
Ravan's father was Vishrawamuni and his
mother was Kaikasi.
899
01:01:02,990 --> 01:01:04,290
His mother was a Raksasi.
900
01:01:04,850 --> 01:01:06,510
His father was not a Raksas.
901
01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:14,570
In fact, interestingly, Ravan's father
was a Brahmin, a Muni, but he himself
902
01:01:14,570 --> 01:01:17,890
a Kshatriya, a ruler. We saw this
earlier as well, right?
903
01:01:20,250 --> 01:01:22,470
Vishwamitra was the son of a ruler.
904
01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:25,770
He used to be a king, but he became a
Brahmarshi.
905
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:30,210
Do you think that the other two brothers
have also descended from the same pair
906
01:01:30,210 --> 01:01:31,209
of parents?
907
01:01:31,210 --> 01:01:32,210
Yes.
908
01:01:32,620 --> 01:01:34,380
I think so. Okay, gotcha.
909
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,060
Before I let you move forward, bit of a
war -oriented question.
910
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:46,660
Because in my eyes, yes, I knew all the
Indrajit stories, but I always viewed
911
01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:50,580
Kumbhakarna as the second most powerful
warrior from the side of the Rakshasas.
912
01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:54,100
Would you say that it's actually
Indrajit?
913
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,120
No, these are the three top warriors.
914
01:01:57,380 --> 01:02:00,160
Ravan himself, Indrajit and Kumbhakarna.
Okay.
915
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,800
And what's sad about Indrajit is that
he's stealth oriented and has very
916
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:10,080
advanced weaponry. Yes. Kumbhakarna had
immense physical power and Indrajit had
917
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,140
all the smart weapons.
918
01:02:11,780 --> 01:02:14,360
Got it. Technically the most sound. Yes.
919
01:02:14,980 --> 01:02:19,820
Just a little tiny historical context.
If you study all medieval battles of
920
01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:24,080
human history, like from the last 1000
years, and I'm pretty sure even before
921
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:29,360
that, the side that wins is always the
one that's technically more advanced.
922
01:02:29,790 --> 01:02:33,090
And that's the actual edge that one has
in warfare.
923
01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:35,170
And I've had lots of soldiers on the
show.
924
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:39,530
They've also confirmed this theory. That
it's always the side with the cannons,
925
01:02:39,810 --> 01:02:43,510
the side with the guns, the side with
the drones that ends up winning.
926
01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:47,630
So this is a huge advantage that the
Rakshasas had.
927
01:02:47,890 --> 01:02:49,130
And they let it down.
928
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:54,510
They let it go, the advantage. Because
they could fire from a distance and they
929
01:02:54,510 --> 01:02:56,590
didn't engage the Vanaras early enough.
930
01:02:56,910 --> 01:03:00,410
And now this was a hand -to -hand combat
or person -to -person combat.
931
01:03:00,710 --> 01:03:02,250
And here the Vanaras were winning.
932
01:03:03,090 --> 01:03:04,590
Now I'll let you go on.
933
01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:12,310
So Kumbhakarna was dead and Ravan was
heartbroken. Indrajit couldn't see him
934
01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:14,210
like this. He came out to fight.
935
01:03:14,910 --> 01:03:18,470
And once again, he started killing
Vanaras by the hundreds.
936
01:03:18,750 --> 01:03:20,810
They didn't even know where he was
firing from.
937
01:03:22,210 --> 01:03:25,650
Some of the weapons that he fired would
explode in the air.
938
01:03:26,060 --> 01:03:29,860
And then they would release sharp darts
onto the Vanaras.
939
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,100
Valmiki says some of the Vanaras tried
to look up to see where the attack was
940
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,180
coming from. And they were struck in
their eyes.
941
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,140
Indrajit then turned his attention to
Ram and Lakshman.
942
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:49,800
He used the Brahmastra and then showered
so many arrows on them that
943
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,080
they fell down unconscious.
944
01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:54,660
And already a lot of the other Vanar
leaders
945
01:03:55,450 --> 01:03:57,630
were down, Sugriv, Angad.
946
01:03:59,230 --> 01:04:04,330
Once again, Indrajit thought that his
job was done and he went back into the
947
01:04:04,330 --> 01:04:05,330
city.
948
01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:11,270
Vibhishan and Hanuman were the only
senior leaders who were relatively
949
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:15,450
all this. Everyone else was terribly
injured and they were going around
950
01:04:15,450 --> 01:04:17,090
to the injured soldiers.
951
01:04:17,570 --> 01:04:22,890
When Vibhishan came across Jambavan,
Jambavan had lost a lot of blood.
952
01:04:23,450 --> 01:04:26,730
With great difficulty, he told Vivishan
to quickly call Hanuman.
953
01:04:27,470 --> 01:04:32,330
And when Hanuman came, Vivishan told him
to get the Sanjeevani herb.
954
01:04:33,210 --> 01:04:39,230
So this is a fairly popular scene when
Hanuman gets the herb to save
955
01:04:39,230 --> 01:04:40,570
the army.
956
01:04:40,830 --> 01:04:42,890
Let's watch this in a short video.
957
01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:45,030
Hanuman came up to him.
958
01:04:45,870 --> 01:04:51,410
Jambavan said, the fate of our army is
in your hands now.
959
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:55,270
You must quickly get four medicinal
herbs.
960
01:04:56,050 --> 01:05:00,810
Sanjeevani, Vishalyakarni, Suvarnakarni
and Sandhani.
961
01:05:01,730 --> 01:05:03,630
Go to the Himalayas.
962
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:06,030
Himavantam Gantumarhasi.
963
01:05:07,030 --> 01:05:12,470
Between Mount Kailash and Mount Rishabh,
you will see another peak shining
964
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:13,470
brightly.
965
01:05:13,770 --> 01:05:15,990
Many herbs grow on this mountain.
966
01:05:16,690 --> 01:05:19,230
There you will find the ones we need.
967
01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:23,240
O greatest of varnaras, Now go.
968
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,500
Only you can do this.
969
01:05:27,460 --> 01:05:33,380
So this is the famous story of Hanuman
flying to the Himalayas and bringing
970
01:05:33,380 --> 01:05:34,279
a mountain.
971
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,120
Did that really happen?
972
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,560
Let us first see how Valmiki has
described it.
973
01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:46,860
And then we will consider whether the
descriptions can be taken literally or
974
01:05:46,860 --> 01:05:47,860
not.
975
01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:49,860
Valmiki says,
976
01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:54,120
Hanuman grew his body to an enormous
size.
977
01:05:54,980 --> 01:05:59,260
Even the mountain he was standing on got
pressed into the earth.
978
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:06,340
And then he took a giant leap into the
sky and went off towards the Himalayas.
979
01:06:06,980 --> 01:06:11,540
He slipped past mountains, lakes, rivers
and cities.
980
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,920
And soon he reached the mountain where
the herbs were growing.
981
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,140
But he could not find the ones he was
looking for.
982
01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:26,880
The plants realized that someone was
looking for them and made themselves
983
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,880
invisible.
984
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:35,720
And so
985
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:42,140
Hanuman picked up the entire mountain
peak with the trees and even the animals
986
01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:44,360
and brought it all back to Lanka.
987
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,140
Lakshman and the injured Vanaras were
administered the medicine.
988
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,940
Soon they all recovered.
989
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,900
Hanuman then quickly went and put the
mountain back in its place in the
990
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:00,900
Himalayas.
991
01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:10,640
Did Hanuman do this using any yogic
powers?
992
01:07:12,750 --> 01:07:18,570
Valmiki has not mentioned anything about
Hanuman using yogic powers or siddhis.
993
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:26,330
And also consider this, the distance
from Lanka to the Himalayas is about
994
01:07:26,330 --> 01:07:27,430
kilometers.
995
01:07:28,790 --> 01:07:34,290
Hanuman is said to have covered this
distance four times for two up and down
996
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:36,250
trips in just a few hours.
997
01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:41,330
His flying speed would have to be many
hundreds of kilometers per hour.
998
01:07:42,510 --> 01:07:47,570
Even if Hanuman had some means of making
the journey himself, the mountain would
999
01:07:47,570 --> 01:07:49,730
not remain intact at such speeds.
1000
01:07:50,650 --> 01:07:54,390
Trees get uprooted in hurricanes at much
lower wind speeds.
1001
01:07:55,190 --> 01:08:00,350
By the time Hanuman could have brought
the mountain to Lanka, not a single tree
1002
01:08:00,350 --> 01:08:01,350
would have survived.
1003
01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:08,270
Most likely, these plants were native to
the Himalayan region, but the medicines
1004
01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:10,170
were also available nearby.
1005
01:08:11,350 --> 01:08:16,359
Remember, On the first night of the war,
the Garud had also brought some such
1006
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:17,359
herbs.
1007
01:08:17,779 --> 01:08:23,240
And when Sugriv had assembled his army,
we had heard that the Vanar troops from
1008
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,600
the Himalayas had brought some medicinal
herbs with them.
1009
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:33,380
The idea of getting a mountain of herbs
could be a way of saying that Hanuman
1010
01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:36,080
got a very large quantity of these
medicines.
1011
01:08:41,390 --> 01:08:43,090
Well, the medicines had done the job.
1012
01:08:43,670 --> 01:08:48,090
Ram, Lakshman and the other injured
soldiers were feeling much better.
1013
01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:52,109
And then Sugriv ordered a counter
-attack.
1014
01:08:52,370 --> 01:08:56,569
See, like I said before, this was a
relentless war, non -stop.
1015
01:08:56,970 --> 01:08:59,710
This was late at night. They had just
recovered.
1016
01:09:00,130 --> 01:09:04,609
But Sugriv told the Vanaras to charge
into the city and set the buildings on
1017
01:09:04,609 --> 01:09:05,609
fire.
1018
01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:11,620
Earlier as well, we had seen how in the
Sundarkand, Hanuman had set fire to some
1019
01:09:11,620 --> 01:09:12,620
buildings in Lanka.
1020
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:14,760
At that time, the objective was
different.
1021
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,120
He wanted to strike fear in the hearts
of the enemy.
1022
01:09:18,340 --> 01:09:25,020
And so he had put the fire at the
residences of the senior most
1023
01:09:25,020 --> 01:09:26,020
rakshasas leaders.
1024
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:32,140
But this time, Sugriva's objective was
to reduce Ravan's ability to fight the
1025
01:09:32,140 --> 01:09:36,859
war. And so they targeted the
storehouses which kept all the tools of
1026
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,920
Armour, body armour.
1027
01:09:39,390 --> 01:09:41,590
Bows and arrows, bow strings and so on.
1028
01:09:42,790 --> 01:09:47,350
The Rakshasas were caught by surprise
because they were thinking that the
1029
01:09:47,350 --> 01:09:49,710
soldiers are lying injured and the
leaders are dead.
1030
01:09:50,090 --> 01:09:53,430
The Vanar troops stormed into the city,
set the buildings on fire.
1031
01:09:53,729 --> 01:09:55,050
There was chaos in the street.
1032
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:58,190
Men and women running around, even
elephants and horses.
1033
01:09:59,050 --> 01:10:03,650
And then just as quickly as they had
come, the Vanar troops came back,
1034
01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:07,310
to their positions outside the city.
When Ravan heard about this, he was
1035
01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:11,480
And he once again turned to Indrajit and
said, do something.
1036
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:14,040
Kill those two brothers, Ram and
Lakshman.
1037
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:17,940
Indrajit came out once again.
1038
01:10:19,740 --> 01:10:26,600
This time when he came out, he put
something on fire which created a lot of
1039
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,040
smoke. So the entire battlefield was
covered by a thick fog.
1040
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,620
And through this fog, he started firing
off his arrows.
1041
01:10:34,140 --> 01:10:38,360
And he was changing his location all the
time. So nobody could see where he
1042
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,360
would fire from.
1043
01:10:39,940 --> 01:10:42,860
And he was killing hundreds of Vanaras
like this.
1044
01:10:44,380 --> 01:10:47,200
And then suddenly he retreated back into
the city.
1045
01:10:48,740 --> 01:10:52,040
And he came out of another gate, this
time the western gate of the city.
1046
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:58,440
And he had with him on the chariot
someone that looked like Sita, a lady
1047
01:10:58,440 --> 01:10:59,440
looked like Sita.
1048
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,640
And after he came out,
1049
01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:05,340
He grabbed that lady by the hair and
started hitting her.
1050
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,620
She cried, Ram!
1051
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,880
Ram!
1052
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:15,520
Hanuman saw this from a distance and he
screamed at him, Stop that!
1053
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:22,460
But Indrajit said, You may think that
killing a woman is not correct, but for
1054
01:11:22,460 --> 01:11:25,300
me, whatever harms the enemy must be
done.
1055
01:11:25,900 --> 01:11:30,520
And he took his sword and struck the
woman who collapsed to the floor of the
1056
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:31,520
chariot.
1057
01:11:33,339 --> 01:11:36,640
Indrajit shouted out, look, I have
killed Sita.
1058
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,800
And then he went into the city.
1059
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,880
Hanuman rushed to report this to Ram.
1060
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:46,560
Vibhishan was also there.
1061
01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:49,720
And he said, this is a trick.
1062
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,320
I know Ravan very well.
1063
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,120
I know Indrajit too.
1064
01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:01,240
They are trying to keep us preoccupied,
throw us off our ground.
1065
01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:03,700
What could it be?
1066
01:12:04,260 --> 01:12:06,800
And suddenly Vibhishan realized what it
was.
1067
01:12:07,620 --> 01:12:12,700
He said Indrajit must have gone to the
shrine of Nikumbila to do a fire ritual.
1068
01:12:13,420 --> 01:12:17,580
And if he finishes the ritual, he will
become invincible.
1069
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:19,060
We must stop him.
1070
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:25,080
So Lakshman, Vibhishan, Hanuman and some
troops rushed to the shrine of
1071
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,760
Nikumbila and they get there just in
time.
1072
01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:30,780
For Indrajit comes out.
1073
01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:32,790
without completing what he had started.
1074
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:37,130
And now for the first time, Indrajit is
out in the open.
1075
01:12:38,230 --> 01:12:41,390
And Lakshman engages him in a direct
battle.
1076
01:12:42,730 --> 01:12:44,950
Both were extremely skilled warriors.
1077
01:12:45,310 --> 01:12:47,190
They had all the astras and shastras.
1078
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:52,250
They neutralized a lot of the astras
that the other fired in mid -air.
1079
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:58,470
But still, many of the arrows found
their mark and both were grievously
1080
01:12:58,830 --> 01:13:02,790
Valmiki says blood was flowing down
their bodies like waterfalls.
1081
01:13:06,750 --> 01:13:10,990
At one point, Indrajit lost his
charioteer.
1082
01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:16,150
What is interesting, Valmiki says that
he took control of the reins himself and
1083
01:13:16,150 --> 01:13:20,910
alternated between guiding the horses
and firing off bows. So he would guide
1084
01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:25,090
horses, leave the reins, fire an arrow
and go back to guiding the horses.
1085
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,060
So he was a very skilled warrior, but
ultimately he was forced off his chariot
1086
01:13:30,060 --> 01:13:31,060
as well.
1087
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:38,360
And then Lakshman loaded the Aindrastra,
Aindrastra means Indrajastra, onto his
1088
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:39,360
bow.
1089
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:45,060
He pulled the bowstring all the way to
his ears, aimed the arrow at Indrajit's
1090
01:13:45,060 --> 01:13:46,780
neck and released it.
1091
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,680
And in a flash, it was all over.
1092
01:13:50,980 --> 01:13:52,100
Indrajit was no more.
1093
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:54,900
Interestingly,
1094
01:13:55,490 --> 01:14:00,190
Indrajit means he who had defeated
Indra, Lord Indra.
1095
01:14:00,770 --> 01:14:07,250
He was killed by Indrajastra, Indrastra.
When Ravan heard that his son was no
1096
01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:10,050
more, he fainted.
1097
01:14:10,650 --> 01:14:15,630
And when he regained consciousness, he
was beside himself with grief. He cried
1098
01:14:15,630 --> 01:14:16,630
bitterly.
1099
01:14:17,730 --> 01:14:23,630
And Ravan was not the only one who was
grieving. By now, Valmiki says that
1100
01:14:23,630 --> 01:14:25,650
family, In Lanka had lost someone.
1101
01:14:26,610 --> 01:14:28,350
Brothers, sons, husbands.
1102
01:14:30,770 --> 01:14:35,250
And Valmiki devotes an entire chapter,
Sarga, to the lament of the Rakshasis.
1103
01:14:35,930 --> 01:14:38,710
They are crying and lamenting the lost
ones.
1104
01:14:40,050 --> 01:14:44,410
It's interesting who they blame for all
this and who they do not blame.
1105
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:48,330
Surprisingly, they have nothing to say
about Ram.
1106
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:52,790
But the two people that they are blaming
are Shurpanakha and Ravan.
1107
01:14:53,770 --> 01:14:57,790
The Rakshatis themselves are saying what
was Shurpan Khat thinking when she
1108
01:14:57,790 --> 01:14:58,790
lusted for Ram.
1109
01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:01,290
Clearly she was wrong.
1110
01:15:01,630 --> 01:15:06,050
And as for Ravan, they said he is evil
minded and arrogant.
1111
01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:08,810
If only he had listened to Vibhishan.
1112
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:11,490
Now there was no one left to turn to.
1113
01:15:12,610 --> 01:15:14,830
Ravan knew he had to come out to fight.
1114
01:15:15,330 --> 01:15:20,110
He was down. He had clearly lost many of
the battles in this.
1115
01:15:20,330 --> 01:15:21,890
But he was not done yet.
1116
01:15:23,180 --> 01:15:28,900
He would throw himself and whatever he
had into one final battle. He asked the
1117
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:33,360
Rakshasas to round up everyone house to
house, who could fight.
1118
01:15:33,980 --> 01:15:37,680
And then Ravan came out for one final
battle.
1119
01:15:38,980 --> 01:15:45,160
Ravan first caused great destruction
among the Vana troops and then Ram
1120
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,160
Ravan.
1121
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:52,240
Once again, like Indrajit and Lakshman,
both were very capable, both
1122
01:15:53,850 --> 01:15:58,110
neutralized or brought down the astras
in mid -air, but also both were struck,
1123
01:15:58,270 --> 01:15:59,270
were injured.
1124
01:16:00,870 --> 01:16:04,950
At one point in time, Ravan also struck
Lakshman with a spear.
1125
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:11,390
And it is here that Hanuman once again
got the Sanjeevani herb only for
1126
01:16:11,390 --> 01:16:14,570
Lakshman. Right? So the Sanjeevani herb
is required three times.
1127
01:16:15,930 --> 01:16:19,130
On the first day when Ravan and Lakshman
were injured, they talked about
1128
01:16:19,130 --> 01:16:22,870
Sanjeevani, but then the Garud came.
Then the second time we saw in the
1129
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,700
When most of the leaders and many troops
were injured, that's when Hanuman got
1130
01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:29,160
the Sanjeevani and now.
1131
01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:35,880
During this time, Ravan had gone back
because he had lost his horses. So he
1132
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,140
back to get a fresh chariot.
1133
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:40,560
And when Ravan came back into the
battlefield,
1134
01:16:41,380 --> 01:16:43,180
Ram and Ravan engaged once again.
1135
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:46,480
Both fought for a long time, for hours.
1136
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,300
And once again, suddenly Ravan's
charioteer turned.
1137
01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:54,140
The chariot back into the city.
1138
01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:58,100
Ravan lashed out at him. He said, you
fool, why did you do that?
1139
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:03,980
The charioteer said, my lord, the horses
are tired and so are you.
1140
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,780
I think we should take some rest.
1141
01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:13,040
While Ram was waiting for Ravan to come
back, he thought of Agastya Muni.
1142
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:18,200
The great Muni had taught him the Aditya
Hridaya Stotra.
1143
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,940
A prayer that helps harness one's energy
in battle.
1144
01:17:24,620 --> 01:17:30,920
And Ram stood facing the sun, recited
the prayer, and did achaman, the
1145
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,820
ceremonial sipping of water, three
times.
1146
01:17:33,380 --> 01:17:35,520
Is the prayer mentioned in the... Yes.
1147
01:17:36,140 --> 01:17:39,400
It's like a mantra packed into... Into
the narration.
1148
01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:42,320
Okay. Got it. All right. Let's watch the
video.
1149
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,640
Ravan returned to the battle scene for
the third time.
1150
01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:48,380
Once more.
1151
01:17:48,650 --> 01:17:52,690
A ferocious battle ensued between these
two great warriors.
1152
01:17:53,610 --> 01:17:56,690
This was chariot warfare at its best.
1153
01:17:57,490 --> 01:18:04,370
At times, Ram and Ravan charged towards
each other.
1154
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:10,410
At other times, they tactically
retreated only to attack from a
1155
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:13,950
And they attacked each other
relentlessly.
1156
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,580
It seemed like the sky was entirely
covered by arrows flying across.
1157
01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:23,740
No one had seen a battle like this ever
before.
1158
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:38,580
The raksha soldiers just stared at
Ravana.
1159
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,600
The vanaras at Rama.
1160
01:18:41,220 --> 01:18:42,680
They stood frozen.
1161
01:18:43,180 --> 01:18:44,840
like characters in a painting.
1162
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,640
The battle raged on and on.
1163
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:55,240
Ram wondered why the weapons that had
worked so well against Khar, Dushan and
1164
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,040
Kaband were unable to finish off Ravan.
1165
01:18:59,480 --> 01:19:04,780
Swalmiki says poetically that when Ram
cut off Ravan's head with a sharp arrow,
1166
01:19:04,940 --> 01:19:07,160
a new head appeared in its place.
1167
01:19:07,420 --> 01:19:09,820
And this happened a hundred times.
1168
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,120
Ram realized that he had to try
something different.
1169
01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:22,200
And then he picked up a special weapon
that Agastya Muni had given him.
1170
01:19:23,220 --> 01:19:29,260
This arrow, made by Lord Brahma himself,
was more like a missile launched from a
1171
01:19:29,260 --> 01:19:30,260
bow.
1172
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,920
Valmiki has described it as follows.
1173
01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:38,500
It was huge in size and weight, but also
hollow in the middle.
1174
01:19:42,010 --> 01:19:48,110
A fire burned inside and it emitted
smoke as it went hissing through the
1175
01:19:48,750 --> 01:19:51,730
It landed on its target like a
thunderbolt.
1176
01:19:52,210 --> 01:19:56,390
It could blast right through doors and
walls, man and beast.
1177
01:19:57,470 --> 01:20:02,330
Ram loaded the great weapon on his bow
as per the proper Vedic procedures.
1178
01:20:02,990 --> 01:20:07,970
He pulled the bowstring all the way back
and fired it off at Ravan.
1179
01:20:08,670 --> 01:20:11,030
The arrow hit Ravan on the chest.
1180
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:12,900
and went right through him.
1181
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:30,220
Even as Ravan's bow and arrow slipped
from his hand, his life breath also
1182
01:20:30,220 --> 01:20:31,340
slipped out of him.
1183
01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:37,120
The king of Rakshasas was dead even
before he hit the ground.
1184
01:20:45,129 --> 01:20:47,470
That is how it happened.
1185
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:58,910
Brahmastra? The Brahmastra comes many
times in the Ramayana. Even earlier in
1186
01:20:58,910 --> 01:21:03,330
Sundarkand, Indrajit had used the
Brahmastra to ensnare Hanuman.
1187
01:21:03,570 --> 01:21:08,390
Then Indrajit had used the Brahmastra
later on as well.
1188
01:21:09,599 --> 01:21:15,340
Ram and Lakshman. So the Brahmastra is
not only one astra. There are different
1189
01:21:15,340 --> 01:21:18,000
types of Brahmastra mentioned here.
1190
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:19,880
Wow.
1191
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:25,400
What is said about his death? Because
there was a line where you went that
1192
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,780
left him before he hit the ground. Yeah.
That's the last mention of him and his
1193
01:21:29,780 --> 01:21:30,820
body and his soul.
1194
01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:34,380
Yes. So he was dead in an instant.
1195
01:21:34,940 --> 01:21:40,320
There is a popular story in some
retellings about Ravan lying on his
1196
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,360
and Lakshman going to meet him before he
dies. That is not mentioned in the
1197
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,840
Valmiki Ramayan. Does Ramji have a
dialogue about Ravan at all to anyone?
1198
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:56,780
Yes. So right after this, once Ravan is
dead, Mandodari and the other wives
1199
01:21:56,780 --> 01:22:00,860
come out. I'll tell you what happens
because he mentioned something to
1200
01:22:00,860 --> 01:22:03,220
which is important about Ravan.
1201
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:09,620
So the ladies come out and they are
weeping next to Ravan's body.
1202
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,580
See, one side has won the battle, the
war.
1203
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,980
How do we typically imagine the winning
side will treat the losing side?
1204
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,680
Especially the women, you know,
throughout history.
1205
01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:26,840
And now look at Ram's exemplary
behavior.
1206
01:22:27,140 --> 01:22:32,780
He tells Vibhishan, please console the
women and do the last rites for Ravan.
1207
01:22:34,819 --> 01:22:39,440
So, the right treatment for the fallen
soldier as well as consoling the women.
1208
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,120
Exemplary behavior.
1209
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,880
Even Vibhishan was not ready for this.
1210
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:52,440
He was conflicted. On one hand, he had
lost his brother and he was sad. At the
1211
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:55,760
same time, he was not ready to forgive
Ravan for what he had done.
1212
01:22:57,540 --> 01:23:03,460
But Ram tells Vibhishan that animosity
should not last after death.
1213
01:23:06,460 --> 01:23:11,220
And he tells Vibhishan to your question
now, what does he tell about Ravan? He
1214
01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:12,560
said, Ravan was a great warrior.
1215
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:16,120
He deserves respect from you and me.
1216
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,900
He died fighting in the battlefield like
a true Kshatriya.
1217
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,120
So please go ahead and do his last
rites.
1218
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,780
And then Vibhishan cremated Ravan's
body, did Jalanjali.
1219
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:37,300
And then, Ram told Lakshman to coronate
Vibhishan as the next king of Lanka.
1220
01:23:38,140 --> 01:23:41,400
And then he told Vibhishan to go and
call Sita.
1221
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,560
See, Sita was inside the city in the
Ashok one, remember.
1222
01:23:45,820 --> 01:23:49,980
And Ram could not enter any city during
the period of his exile, one was.
1223
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,860
So he asked Vibhishan to call her.
1224
01:23:54,220 --> 01:23:59,700
But he also said, make sure she has
taken her bath and put on her jewellery.
1225
01:24:01,260 --> 01:24:05,680
That was a strange request and Sita
thought so too.
1226
01:24:06,060 --> 01:24:08,760
She said, I want to meet Ram. The bath
can wait.
1227
01:24:09,980 --> 01:24:16,980
But Vibhishan advised that they should
follow what Ram had said. And so Sita
1228
01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:23,960
ready and Vibhishan brought Sita to the
battlefield in a palanquin and then told
1229
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,180
Ram, Sita is here.
1230
01:24:27,340 --> 01:24:28,420
Ram was thoughtful.
1231
01:24:29,050 --> 01:24:35,250
He looked down for a moment and then
told Vibhishan, please ask Sita to get
1232
01:24:35,250 --> 01:24:37,010
the Palkhi and walk up to me.
1233
01:24:37,610 --> 01:24:42,510
Again, Vibhishan couldn't understand why
Ram was asking for this, but he went
1234
01:24:42,510 --> 01:24:45,190
and told Sita to come towards Ram.
1235
01:24:46,610 --> 01:24:50,850
At that time, the Vanaras and Rakshasas
had begun to gather.
1236
01:24:51,730 --> 01:24:56,650
It was some sort of a spectacle and
Vibhishan's soldiers were pushing them
1237
01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,800
Ram told the soldiers not to put them
back. Let them stay.
1238
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,700
And so when Sita got off the Palkhi, she
was embarrassed.
1239
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,320
Lajjaya. Everyone was looking at her.
1240
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,780
She walked towards Ram.
1241
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:14,400
And then when she looked up, their eyes
met.
1242
01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:20,060
After months of longing, finally they
had seen each other.
1243
01:25:20,780 --> 01:25:24,500
And Maharshi Valmiki says, their faces
lit up with joy.
1244
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:32,500
But then Ram's expression changed and he
said to her,
1245
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:35,740
Oh lady, may you be well.
1246
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,120
You should know that I did not fight the
war for your sake.
1247
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,420
By kidnapping you, Ravan had insulted me
and I had to take revenge.
1248
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,920
I fought this war for the glory of the
Ikshwaku dynasty.
1249
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,820
But now there is a doubt about your
character.
1250
01:25:59,060 --> 01:26:01,720
And I can't even bear to look at you.
1251
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:06,740
Surely Ravan would have been attracted
to someone as beautiful as you.
1252
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:12,860
And what sort of a man would take back a
woman who has spent some time in
1253
01:26:12,860 --> 01:26:13,860
someone else's house?
1254
01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:18,100
You are free to go and live with whoever
you wish to.
1255
01:26:18,900 --> 01:26:24,740
You can live with Lakshman, Bharat,
Shatrughna or even Sugriv.
1256
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,280
or Vibhishan.
1257
01:26:26,820 --> 01:26:28,980
It means nothing to me.
1258
01:26:29,860 --> 01:26:32,960
Sita could not believe what she was
hearing.
1259
01:26:33,660 --> 01:26:38,280
In fact, we have spoken over four
sessions, many hours.
1260
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:44,520
This is completely out of character,
right, based on what we have heard about
1261
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,520
Sri Ram.
1262
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:51,280
If we are reading the Ramayana, when we
come to this part, you may flip the
1263
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,940
pages back and forth to see whether you
are reading things correctly.
1264
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:55,410
This is so odd.
1265
01:26:56,410 --> 01:27:00,870
We have seen how Ram was pained by
Sita's loss.
1266
01:27:02,170 --> 01:27:07,610
Again and again, we heard him say, I
cannot live for a moment without Sita.
1267
01:27:09,210 --> 01:27:15,310
My life is meaningless without Sita. We
heard this
1268
01:27:15,310 --> 01:27:20,970
at Panchavati when she was kidnapped.
Afterwards in Pampa, Ram talked
1269
01:27:20,970 --> 01:27:23,710
about his longing for Sita.
1270
01:27:25,290 --> 01:27:30,590
And Ram had also said, if I can be with
Sita, I will not wish for anything else
1271
01:27:30,590 --> 01:27:31,309
in the world.
1272
01:27:31,310 --> 01:27:32,490
Not even Ayodhya.
1273
01:27:36,770 --> 01:27:38,850
Sita cried.
1274
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:42,270
She could not understand why Ram was
saying this.
1275
01:27:43,850 --> 01:27:48,490
And she said, what you say is totally
unfair, inappropriate.
1276
01:27:49,530 --> 01:27:51,830
How come you are thinking like an
ordinary person?
1277
01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:54,810
I did not come here by choice.
1278
01:27:55,450 --> 01:27:56,910
Ravan forcibly brought me.
1279
01:27:57,570 --> 01:27:59,290
Now what is my fault in all this?
1280
01:28:00,610 --> 01:28:03,790
And if that's what you felt, you should
have told me so earlier.
1281
01:28:04,090 --> 01:28:07,110
I would have killed myself when Hanuman
came to meet me.
1282
01:28:08,370 --> 01:28:11,530
And then all this effort would have been
saved.
1283
01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:16,510
You put your life at risk unnecessarily.
So many of your friends' lives at risk.
1284
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:18,650
So many people got killed. It was
unnecessary.
1285
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:26,680
And if after all these years, If you
still do not understand me, then I might
1286
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:33,320
well be dead. She looked to Lakshman and
said, Lakshman, I cannot live with this
1287
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,280
baseless controversy about my character.
1288
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,940
Please light a fire and I will walk into
it.
1289
01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:46,680
Note, many months back, Sita had said
some harsh and unfair words to Lakshman
1290
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,820
Panchavati before she got abducted.
1291
01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:55,970
And now Ram had said, harsh and unfair
words to Sita and Sita was looking for
1292
01:28:55,970 --> 01:29:00,070
help towards Lakshman. Lakshman could
also not understand why Ram was doing
1293
01:29:00,070 --> 01:29:01,070
this.
1294
01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:05,570
He knew how Ram felt about Sita and how
could he say such things.
1295
01:29:06,050 --> 01:29:10,090
He looked at Ram angrily and then
Maharshi Valmiki says,
1296
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:17,150
Ram made a
1297
01:29:17,150 --> 01:29:20,770
gesture to Lakshman and then Lakshman
understood.
1298
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:22,640
what was in his mind.
1299
01:29:23,740 --> 01:29:25,500
Aakara Suchitam, a gesture.
1300
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:27,660
And Lakshman lit a fire.
1301
01:29:27,940 --> 01:29:31,180
So Ram had indicated to him, I know what
I am doing.
1302
01:29:31,620 --> 01:29:33,900
Just go along. It was all an act.
1303
01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:35,460
Those harsh words.
1304
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:38,320
Lakshman lit the fire.
1305
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,020
Sita walked up to it.
1306
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:48,480
And she said, If I am not at fault in
any way, if my character is spotless,
1307
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:50,560
may the fire protect me.
1308
01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:54,140
And she started going towards the fire.
1309
01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:56,440
There was a roar among the crowds.
1310
01:29:58,540 --> 01:30:02,840
At this point, Maharshi Valmiki says,
Sita jumped into the fire.
1311
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:09,240
The Devas, Rishis, Gandharvas, Indra,
Brahma all came there.
1312
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,300
Agnidev brought Sita out of the fire.
1313
01:30:14,260 --> 01:30:20,320
And then they all spoke to Ram and said,
Sita is not at fault in any way.
1314
01:30:21,940 --> 01:30:25,880
Ravan forcibly brought her, never again
say such hurtful things to her.
1315
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:34,080
We have to understand that through the
voices of the Devas and Rishis, Valmiki
1316
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:38,440
is telling us what the crowd spoke of,
just as Sita was about to jump into the
1317
01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:39,440
fire.
1318
01:30:41,020 --> 01:30:46,840
And when they said, Sita is not at fault
in any way, Ram said, I understand Sita
1319
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,480
very well. I know her very well.
1320
01:30:49,610 --> 01:30:51,670
And I can never leave her.
1321
01:30:52,250 --> 01:30:57,410
It is just not possible.
1322
01:30:58,230 --> 01:31:04,990
We are inseparable like the sun is
inseparable from the sun's rays.
1323
01:31:05,210 --> 01:31:07,130
You cannot have one without the other.
1324
01:31:11,050 --> 01:31:12,710
Sita was not at fault.
1325
01:31:13,530 --> 01:31:17,690
But Ram knew that people would question
and gossip about her.
1326
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:23,120
And he wanted to make sure that they
recognized her as the queen and that
1327
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,340
had no question about her.
1328
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:30,920
Ram's hurtful words to Sita that we
heard were all an act.
1329
01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:35,920
And this was a carefully crafted
situation. If you saw right from the
1330
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,020
why did Sita have to put on her jewelry?
1331
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,820
Because Ram wanted to make sure that
when she made her first appearance,
1332
01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:46,300
saw her as their soon to be queen.
1333
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,380
and not as a destitute woman.
1334
01:31:49,900 --> 01:31:53,880
Why did he tell the guards not to push
back the crowds so that they could hear
1335
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,260
the hurtful words that he said?
1336
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:01,100
And then Sita had to walk up to him and
he said those hurtful words when the
1337
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:04,200
people spoke up and said, Sita has done
nothing wrong.
1338
01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:06,160
Sita is not to be blamed.
1339
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,960
And this is exactly the outcome that
Shri Ram wanted.
1340
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:15,980
And with that, Shri Ram and Sita were
united once again.
1341
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,640
this previous chapter is very important
for modern day context and I was toying
1342
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:26,300
with the idea of even bringing this up
or not but I feel every faith in the
1343
01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:31,480
world has its critics which often come
from other faiths and of course every
1344
01:32:31,480 --> 01:32:37,300
faith in the world also has its set of
secular people who just you know are
1345
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:43,380
good energy towards other faiths when it
comes to Sanatana Dharma the critics of
1346
01:32:43,380 --> 01:32:47,290
Sanatana Dharma sometimes from other
faiths And very, very often from our own
1347
01:32:47,290 --> 01:32:52,590
faith. End up criticizing the Ramayana
because of this part without talking
1348
01:32:52,590 --> 01:32:57,390
about what you spoke about post Sita
Maaz.
1349
01:32:58,630 --> 01:33:02,950
Outburst. Yeah, outburst. And if you
read things in isolation, of course, you
1350
01:33:02,950 --> 01:33:04,290
will get a completely different meaning.
1351
01:33:04,570 --> 01:33:10,210
Yeah, this is what my friend Manish
calls loosely informed, highly
1352
01:33:11,670 --> 01:33:14,470
When people criticize the Ramayana in
this manner.
1353
01:33:15,260 --> 01:33:16,640
But instead, hear the whole story.
1354
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,500
And also, this is kind of the danger
with taking the Valmiki Ramayan and
1355
01:33:21,500 --> 01:33:23,340
creating your own spin on it.
1356
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:29,600
And here I'm criticizing all the
individuals who added their own spin on
1357
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,360
the last 14 ,000 years.
1358
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:37,160
Was there a need? See, there is a place
for retellings.
1359
01:33:37,620 --> 01:33:39,440
And some of the retellings are...
1360
01:33:40,190 --> 01:33:43,330
Even the authors are saying that this is
just a literary work.
1361
01:33:43,630 --> 01:33:48,230
And I think as long as the retellings
are consistent with the spirit of
1362
01:33:48,230 --> 01:33:52,130
Ravan, we can enjoy them all. Like I
said about the coiled tail.
1363
01:33:52,350 --> 01:33:53,890
Why not? A beautiful depiction.
1364
01:33:54,130 --> 01:33:55,130
We can enjoy that.
1365
01:33:55,450 --> 01:34:01,650
But where if you start reading character
traits that are simply not there, like
1366
01:34:01,650 --> 01:34:06,390
Ravan being very nice to women, we just
saw today that is absolutely far from
1367
01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:09,050
the truth. That is not a retelling. That
is a twisting.
1368
01:34:09,530 --> 01:34:15,070
Yeah, I think it's almost become a bit
of a Sanatani flex to show off
1369
01:34:15,070 --> 01:34:21,710
certain kind of elements of spin -off
stories that, hey, did you know that in
1370
01:34:21,710 --> 01:34:24,910
some stories Ravana is Sita's dad? Like
I've heard things like this. It's been
1371
01:34:24,910 --> 01:34:25,910
said on the show as well.
1372
01:34:26,270 --> 01:34:30,510
So that's so far from the Valmiki
Ramayana. Yes, and that is why the
1373
01:34:30,510 --> 01:34:34,150
of the Valmiki Ramayana because that is
the reference text. See, there are so
1374
01:34:34,150 --> 01:34:37,470
many versions and people are confused
what exactly happened.
1375
01:34:39,070 --> 01:34:42,210
For that question, the reference text is
the Valmiki Ramayana.
1376
01:34:43,070 --> 01:34:47,710
You know, more than a million people are
going to watch these episodes
1377
01:34:47,710 --> 01:34:49,170
collectively, what we've recorded.
1378
01:34:50,010 --> 01:34:55,110
This is such an important retelling of
the original text for the internet age.
1379
01:34:56,330 --> 01:34:59,030
Can I interject with one more question
before we move forward?
1380
01:34:59,250 --> 01:35:02,570
First of all, is the story complete? Is
there some stuff left?
1381
01:35:02,910 --> 01:35:05,890
A little bit. Now they will go back to
Ayodhya.
1382
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:11,820
But go ahead with your question. The
question I have is this element of
1383
01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:13,520
being God or human.
1384
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,480
This is another question that came up a
lot in the comment section.
1385
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,560
And I think this is in reference to the
previous episode where we spoke about
1386
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,040
Hanumanji's reality.
1387
01:35:24,700 --> 01:35:30,020
Where you often visualize him as a God,
which he is. Which is why we recite the
1388
01:35:30,020 --> 01:35:31,020
Hanuman Chalisa as well.
1389
01:35:31,480 --> 01:35:32,480
But then...
1390
01:35:32,750 --> 01:35:37,970
Mentions of the Vanaras tell us that
they took off their monkey -like masks
1391
01:35:37,970 --> 01:35:38,970
monkey -like tails.
1392
01:35:39,470 --> 01:35:43,270
So these are obviously human beings
which are putting on some kind of
1393
01:35:43,670 --> 01:35:49,610
And Hanumanji was a very evolved version
of a Vanar. Yes. Was a higher being,
1394
01:35:49,690 --> 01:35:50,690
for sure.
1395
01:35:51,890 --> 01:35:56,970
Now, common understanding in Sanatanis
is that Ramji is an avatar of Vishnu.
1396
01:35:58,190 --> 01:36:00,430
Can we bring in Vishnu Bhagwan into...
1397
01:36:00,890 --> 01:36:03,750
This part of the story and this part of
this conversation as well.
1398
01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:05,390
What's happening here?
1399
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:10,510
So your question was, is he human or
divine? Yes.
1400
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:12,330
And the answer is both.
1401
01:36:14,290 --> 01:36:19,730
First of all, right in the beginning, in
the first discussion that we had in
1402
01:36:19,730 --> 01:36:26,550
this series, first chapter of the
Balakand itself, we had looked at the
1403
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:32,690
of traits that Maharshi Valmiki was
looking for. Remember, and so
1404
01:36:32,690 --> 01:36:36,830
on. And there he had used the word Nara.
1405
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:43,270
Nara means human. So he was looking for
a person, a human who had these
1406
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:45,110
qualities and then he wrote the story of
Ram.
1407
01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:51,530
Afterwards also he has used the word
Nara to talk about Sri Ram. So Sri Ram
1408
01:36:51,530 --> 01:36:52,870
the Valmiki Ram mind is human.
1409
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:56,520
We also saw that he goes through all the
human emotions.
1410
01:36:57,940 --> 01:37:03,360
Happiness, love, anger, hopelessness,
sorrow, all of it.
1411
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:09,740
Also, many of the magical aspects that
we find in other retellings are not
1412
01:37:09,740 --> 01:37:12,460
in the Valmiki Ramayana. So, Sri Ram was
human.
1413
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:18,900
At the same time, Maharshi Valmiki has
also said that the four sons of Vishnu
1414
01:37:18,900 --> 01:37:21,820
had taken birth as the four sons of
Dashrath.
1415
01:37:23,659 --> 01:37:30,640
And at other points also, he refers to
Sri Ram as Vishnu being in human form.
1416
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,000
So both.
1417
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:33,320
Gotcha. Okay.
1418
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:40,220
So proceeding with the story, we are
almost at the end. Ravan is no more.
1419
01:37:41,220 --> 01:37:42,860
Ram and Sita are together.
1420
01:37:43,580 --> 01:37:46,440
The war is over and so are the 14 years
of exile.
1421
01:37:46,740 --> 01:37:48,480
So it's now time to go home.
1422
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,440
Vibhishan gets the Pushpak Viman ready.
1423
01:37:52,140 --> 01:37:53,140
All of them.
1424
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,140
climb into the Viman and the Viman takes
off for Ayodhya.
1425
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:04,000
Along the way, when they are passing
over Kishkindha, Sita suggests that they
1426
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,880
could pick up Tara and the other ladies.
1427
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:11,440
So they bring down the Viman, pick up
the additional passengers and then off
1428
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:12,440
their way again.
1429
01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:19,540
When they come close to Ayodhya, Ram,
Lakshman and Sita bow down in reverence
1430
01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:20,720
to the city.
1431
01:38:21,660 --> 01:38:27,610
But then instead of Arriving straight at
Ayodhya, Ram gets the Viman
1432
01:38:27,610 --> 01:38:32,870
to turn back and land at Bharadwaj
Muni's ashram.
1433
01:38:33,570 --> 01:38:38,510
Remember, during their vanvas also, they
had come south to Sringavirpur, crossed
1434
01:38:38,510 --> 01:38:41,690
over the Ganga and then got gone to
Bharadwaj Muni's ashram.
1435
01:38:43,050 --> 01:38:48,150
After exchanging some pleasantries, Shri
Ram asks Bharadwaj Muni, how are things
1436
01:38:48,150 --> 01:38:49,150
in Ayodhya?
1437
01:38:50,130 --> 01:38:51,610
Bharadwaj Muni knows.
1438
01:38:52,010 --> 01:38:53,030
Why he is asking that?
1439
01:38:54,050 --> 01:38:59,090
And he says, my disciples go there often
and I can tell you that Bharat is
1440
01:38:59,090 --> 01:39:00,090
ruling very well.
1441
01:39:00,830 --> 01:39:03,410
And he is waiting for you to come back.
1442
01:39:05,310 --> 01:39:09,830
You had asked me earlier, what happens
after the 14 years? So Kaikeyi had asked
1443
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:15,070
that Ram should be sent off into Anvas
and Bharat should be made the king,
1444
01:39:15,210 --> 01:39:18,450
Yuvraj, earlier and then the king. What
happens after 14 years?
1445
01:39:19,670 --> 01:39:26,530
At that time, Remember in Chitrakoot,
Bharat had said that if you don't come
1446
01:39:26,530 --> 01:39:30,810
back on the very day the 14 years are
over, I will kill myself. I'm only
1447
01:39:30,810 --> 01:39:31,870
in your name.
1448
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:40,410
But Ram wanted to find out what Bharat
was thinking now after all these years
1449
01:39:40,410 --> 01:39:45,410
about it before arriving. And he also
wanted to know how Bharat was ruling. So
1450
01:39:45,410 --> 01:39:48,430
he had found that Bharat was ruling very
well.
1451
01:39:49,210 --> 01:39:55,050
So he told Hanuman to go up to Bharat
before they arrived to tell him what all
1452
01:39:55,050 --> 01:39:56,050
had happened.
1453
01:39:56,450 --> 01:40:02,550
And then he said, observe Bharat very
carefully, his body language and his
1454
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:03,550
expressions.
1455
01:40:04,490 --> 01:40:10,210
And if you feel something is amiss, then
let me know before I meet Bharat.
1456
01:40:12,410 --> 01:40:17,610
The empire held no attraction for Ram.
So he was not eagerly looking forward to
1457
01:40:17,610 --> 01:40:18,610
becoming the king.
1458
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,560
His primary concern always was
Prajapalan, welfare of the people.
1459
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,380
And he had found through Bharadwaj Muni
that Bharat was ruling well.
1460
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:32,260
And so he wanted to find out that if
Bharat wanted to continue, see after 14
1461
01:40:32,260 --> 01:40:37,560
years in power, maybe he thought
differently. If Bharat wanted to
1462
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,160
was very happy to let him do so.
1463
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,780
So Hanuman went to meet Bharat, told him
what had happened.
1464
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:51,140
Bharat was stunned to hear all this. He
did not know about Sita's abduction and
1465
01:40:51,140 --> 01:40:53,020
the war with the Rakshasas or any of it.
1466
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,800
And he was delighted to know that Ram
was coming back to Ayodhya.
1467
01:40:58,420 --> 01:41:03,320
He hugged Hanuman and said, Finally,
1468
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:07,660
my wish has been fulfilled.
1469
01:41:09,900 --> 01:41:13,920
The next day, the Viman arrived in
Nandigram.
1470
01:41:14,180 --> 01:41:19,070
By the way, Bharat was ruling as a
caretaker, as he had said, from
1471
01:41:19,190 --> 01:41:20,610
which was just outside Ayodhya.
1472
01:41:20,830 --> 01:41:25,970
So he had said he would not enjoy any of
the luxuries of royal life while Ram
1473
01:41:25,970 --> 01:41:26,869
was in exile.
1474
01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:30,410
And so he was at Nandigram and that's
where the Viman came.
1475
01:41:31,210 --> 01:41:35,590
It was an emotional homecoming for Ram,
Lakshmana and Sita.
1476
01:41:37,930 --> 01:41:43,430
Bharat told Ram, now that you are back,
take over the empire.
1477
01:41:44,490 --> 01:41:46,750
I have ruled in your name.
1478
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:53,550
In your absence, the treasury, food
stock and the army are 10 times what
1479
01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:58,270
were. So he had grown the economy 10
times in 14 years. He had ruled very
1480
01:41:59,030 --> 01:42:04,330
Even then Bharat said, but no one can
rule this vast empire like you.
1481
01:42:05,090 --> 01:42:11,490
I am as capable of walking in your shoes
as a donkey is capable of walking like
1482
01:42:11,490 --> 01:42:12,490
a horse.
1483
01:42:12,910 --> 01:42:13,910
Gatinkara.
1484
01:42:15,719 --> 01:42:19,380
The very words he had said 14 years
back.
1485
01:42:20,180 --> 01:42:24,160
All these years in power had not changed
Bharat one bit.
1486
01:42:24,820 --> 01:42:26,500
And these were the Ikshwakus.
1487
01:42:26,820 --> 01:42:32,260
We had seen earlier 34 generations. They
had been ruling for 34 generations and
1488
01:42:32,260 --> 01:42:37,360
still not a trace of any lust for power.
Remember the great debate at Chitrakoot
1489
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:42,000
where Ram and Bharat had argued that the
other is the rightful successor.
1490
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,740
Ram agreed to take over the
responsibility of the empire.
1491
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:55,860
The coronation was held the next day.
Before the coronation, Ram was brought
1492
01:42:55,860 --> 01:43:00,260
from Nandigram to Ayodhya in a grand
procession.
1493
01:43:00,480 --> 01:43:02,580
There were musicians and dancers.
1494
01:43:03,180 --> 01:43:04,920
Ayodhya erupted in joy.
1495
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,920
The streets and buildings were decorated
with flags and flowers.
1496
01:43:11,660 --> 01:43:17,900
And then, Maharshi Vasishta placed the
crown of the Ikshvakus on Sri Ram's
1497
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:26,260
Ram gave away gifts to the scholars and
the needy. He honored Vibhishan,
1498
01:43:26,380 --> 01:43:29,880
Hanuman, Sugriv and others.
1499
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:37,840
And Sita gave a very special gift, a
necklace to a very special person,
1500
01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:42,850
After the coronation, Sugriv went back
to Kishkindha.
1501
01:43:44,090 --> 01:43:45,490
Vibhishan went back to Lanka.
1502
01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:50,590
And thus began the glorious reign of
King Ram.
1503
01:43:52,310 --> 01:43:57,190
Maharshi Valmiki says, everyone was
happy and all was well in the land.
1504
01:43:57,750 --> 01:44:02,810
People lived long and healthy lives.
1505
01:44:03,110 --> 01:44:06,410
They lived in harmony with each other
and with nature.
1506
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:09,930
And Ram was extremely popular.
1507
01:44:10,570 --> 01:44:16,210
People could not get enough of talking
about him. Ram did this, Ram did that.
1508
01:44:17,770 --> 01:44:24,770
And thus Ram ruled for many,
1509
01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:25,870
many years.
1510
01:44:31,210 --> 01:44:33,470
This is the story.
1511
01:44:33,710 --> 01:44:36,090
This is how it all happened.
1512
01:44:36,590 --> 01:44:38,550
May you all be well.
1513
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:44,720
And with those words, the sixth book of
the Valmiki Ramayana comes to an end.
1514
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:51,200
And this is also the end of the Valmiki
Ramayana.
1515
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,160
Jai Sri Ram. Jai Sri Ram.
1516
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:55,040
Hmm.
1517
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:57,200
Fun.
1518
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:02,200
Feeling like a big box has been ticked.
From my own artistic journey, I don't
1519
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:03,200
know how you're feeling.
1520
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:07,340
Definitely. Thank you so much for giving
me this opportunity to tell.
1521
01:45:07,850 --> 01:45:14,350
This story of Shri Ram, the charitra of
Shri Ram, sharing it with all of you.
1522
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:20,050
Thanks for your life work. That's what
I'll say. But before we close off, I
1523
01:45:20,050 --> 01:45:21,630
to make one final remark.
1524
01:45:24,890 --> 01:45:29,330
You had said just now that this is the
oldest epic, the Adhika we have written
1525
01:45:29,330 --> 01:45:32,610
all of these thousands of years back and
we are still talking about it.
1526
01:45:33,310 --> 01:45:36,990
In fact, in the Ramayana itself,
Maharshi Valmiki has this.
1527
01:45:45,449 --> 01:45:51,390
Until the mountains and rivers exist on
this earth, Ramayan, the story of Ram,
1528
01:45:51,410 --> 01:45:52,990
will always be told.
1529
01:45:55,050 --> 01:45:57,070
Now, think about it.
1530
01:45:57,610 --> 01:46:02,650
How could Maharshi Valmiki, all of these
thousands of years back, be so
1531
01:46:02,650 --> 01:46:07,190
confident that what he was composing,
will be told for all times to come.
1532
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:10,870
How could he be so confident?
1533
01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:13,270
And the answer is relevance.
1534
01:46:14,410 --> 01:46:18,770
The Valmiki Ramayana is relevant for
everyone and for all times.
1535
01:46:21,210 --> 01:46:25,550
In the first session, you had asked the
question, I think it was your first
1536
01:46:25,550 --> 01:46:28,690
question, why did Maharshi Valmiki write
it?
1537
01:46:29,890 --> 01:46:31,990
And we had looked at the first few
verses.
1538
01:46:39,749 --> 01:46:43,670
Who in the world lives today? Who has
all the qualities of an outstanding
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person? Who is a great role model?
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And then in the next few verses, he had
listed out these qualities. Who has the
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strength of character?
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Who is thoughtful, caring, generous,
grateful, truthful, a doer, scholar?
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He has attained control over his anger.
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But, won't remain silent in the face of
wrongdoing.
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And then Maharshi Valmiki wrote the
story of Ram.
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Because Ram had all of those qualities.
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Now note, these qualities are universal
human values.
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Who can argue that being grateful,
thoughtful, caring is not good?
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And so Sri Ram exemplifies these
universal human values.
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See, Ram's ideal is not limited by any
philosophy or doctrine.
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There are no religious do's and don'ts
in this book.
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And that is why the Ramayana is relevant
for everyone and for all times,
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relevant for you and me today.
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See, you are doing some exciting and
bold initiatives in your podcast about
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the global expansion and so on.
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Also in your personal life, you shared
some interesting developments.
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For you and for me, can we think of the
Ramayana in
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our life? That is the question.
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Can we think beyond ourselves and our
self -interest?
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Can we choose to do the right thing even
when the costs are high?
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Can we support others in their time of
need?
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And surely there will be times when we
feel hopeless.
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And overwhelmed.
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Can we think of what. Sri Ram, Lakshman,
Sita and Hanuman did.
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And know.
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That we have to keep going.
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Never give up.
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And when. We have done everything that
we can do. Can we accept whatever life
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throws at us.
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Without anger. Without irritation.
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Just the way Sri Ram accepted.
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On the day of his exile.
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That is the relevance.
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Of the Ramayana.
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This conversation is important because
hopefully we can not only connect our
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audience with Maharshi Valmiki's words,
but also show them how it can be
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useful in their day -to -day lives.
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It's petrol for the subconscious mind.
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That's how I look at the Ramayana.
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Fuels your journey through life. And
it's always done that for every Indian
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who's familiar with the story.
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This whole series was created.
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Honestly, primarily for a global
audience to expose them to the story of
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Ramayana. And there's a lot of people of
Indian origin all over the world who
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wish to hear the story in English and
who wish to know the true version of the
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story. So this is why it's a big
artistic tick mark for me. It's been a
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mine since my career began. And you were
the right person, you know, that
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Hanumanji sent and that Maharishi
Valmiki sent. Thank you.
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You said it is for the global audience.
Of course, it should be. Like we said,
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it is universal.
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As I'm moving into my 30s, I'm 31 now.
I'll turn 32 this year.
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One of the big life lessons I'm
understanding is that there's variables
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and there's constants in life.
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And we often only address the positive
constants, which are your family
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You know, maybe love as an emotion.
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Maybe growth is a constant.
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But there's another very big constant
that you're not told about when you're
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growing up. And often you learn it
through the course of life.
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And that constant is the factor of
unpredictability.
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It's not a variable.
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I've understood that life is deeply
unpredictable.
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That's just the nature of being a human
being.
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And this is exactly why you need that
sort of morals, ethics.
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which you get from the Ramayana.
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I think that's what you're going towards
as well. That this is a bit of a GPS
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for life in some ways.
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Definitely when we keep an ideal in
front of us, we become more like that.
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Remember we had spoken about this in our
very first discussion before we started
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the four part series. Why should we read
this again and again?
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Because over time, the right actions
become our default actions.
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As we move towards this ending note,
what I've realized about you is that
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you've had a very successful business
career before you began this journey of
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studying the Ramayana.
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And you've told me off camera about all
the adventures you had through your
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business career. There were some very
intense, difficult periods as well.
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01:51:46,010 --> 01:51:50,550
But you just kind of swiftly move past
those periods.
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So that you can be here in this room and
share the story of the Ramayana with
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the world. The original true Maharishi
Valmiki Ramayana.
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Yes, I certainly feel blessed and
privileged that I'm able to do the work
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I'm doing for the last six years.
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What I will end this podcast with is a
truth that I've realized while sitting
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front of you. You're easily the most
humble person that we've had in the
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And I've not told you this until now.
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But I genuinely feel that. Like I've
spoken to all sorts of people, never met
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anyone as humble as you, which is why,
you know, I think Shriram chose you
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01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:33,880
himself. So thank you. Thank you for
being in this room. Thank you.
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That was the series finale, ladies and
gentlemen. Of course, if you've not
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checked out the first three episodes, do
go check them out. We'll link them down
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below as well.
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It's been a spiritual purpose.
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within the realms of my professional
life to create this exact series at some
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01:52:54,170 --> 01:52:59,110
point. And 10 years into YouTubing,
we've finally been able to do an
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01:52:59,110 --> 01:53:05,390
retelling of Valmiki's Ramayan for the
2025 podcast listening audience.
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Doing the series was almost therapeutic
for me in so many ways.
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Got a glimpse of what Bharat used to be
14 ,000 years ago because this is the
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real history of India that were not
taught in schools.
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um this particular series has been
created with very very pure intention by
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both yashodeep sir and myself which is
why i hope that it reaches every single
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01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:35,700
indian and we get to know the ramayana
in much more detail than we knew before
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01:53:35,700 --> 01:53:40,740
the series existed we intend on creating
a series related to the mahabharata in
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the future as well but please enjoy this
one for now re -watch it if you must
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01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:50,880
and if you want an even more detailed
version of this kind of a retelling, do
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01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:56,280
visit Yasodip Sir's YouTube channel.
It's called 21 Notes, where he's given
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01:53:56,280 --> 01:54:02,660
very, very, very detailed episodes
related to Valmiki's Ramayana, the only
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01:54:02,660 --> 01:54:05,440
and honest retelling of our epic.
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01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,820
Thank you for listening and lots of
love. Jai Shri Ram.
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