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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,320 Welcome to our series finale of Ramayana. 2 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:32,330 By the way, this Setu is called Nal Setu, not Ram Setu. 3 00:00:32,530 --> 00:00:37,390 Ravan was more interested in playing dirty tricks rather than preparing for 4 00:00:37,390 --> 00:00:42,110 battle. He called Vidyujjiva and instructed him to make a replica of 5 00:00:42,290 --> 00:00:46,090 And then Ravan went to meet Sita. He told her cheerfully, your dear husband 6 00:00:46,090 --> 00:00:49,510 dead. It was time to charge on to the gates of Lanka. 7 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,220 What is the kind of weaponry that one should visualize? 8 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,000 This is a very strange war that one side has none of this. The Vanaras fought 9 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,560 with their bare hands and they would punch, kick, throw stones, even bite. Or 10 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,540 they would pick up the weapons of the Rakshasas themselves and hit them. The 11 00:01:06,540 --> 00:01:10,660 Vanaras kept winning again and again. Although both sides suffered heavy 12 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:15,520 casualties, Ravan wanted to call on Kumbhakarna. They beat drums to try and 13 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,160 him up. Then they started pulling his hair. 14 00:01:17,930 --> 00:01:22,310 He got up and he was famished. They had brought meat for him to eat, pig, 15 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:26,890 buffalo, deer. Pig, buffalo and deer. As well as big jars of blood. That was his 16 00:01:26,890 --> 00:01:27,890 food. 17 00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:33,900 After months of longing, finally they had seen each other. Their faces lit up 18 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:38,200 with joy. But then Ram's expression changed and he said to her, Oh lady, you 19 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,800 should know that I did not fight the war for your sake. Now there is a doubt 20 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,860 about your character and I can't even bear to look at you. What sort of a man 21 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:49,320 would take back a woman who has spent some time in someone else's house? 22 00:01:54,190 --> 00:02:00,290 This is our series finale of our four -part retelling of the entire Ramayana. 23 00:02:00,430 --> 00:02:07,090 The series finale is all about the war between Shri Ram and Ravan, 24 00:02:07,210 --> 00:02:13,730 the king of the Rakshasas or the evil force that was present in the world at 25 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:17,810 time of the Ramayana. Remember that there's only one accurate Ramayana and 26 00:02:17,810 --> 00:02:19,730 that's the one written by the sage Valmiki. 27 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,860 In today's day and age, there's only one man in India who has studied Valmiki's 28 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:31,660 Ramayana with that much intensity, with that much force, and has gone that much 29 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:35,800 into the depths of the Valmiki Ramayana. His name is Yashodhi Devdaso, who 30 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,160 helped us create this very special four -part series. 31 00:02:38,420 --> 00:02:43,240 If you've not watched the first three parts, watch them at the end of watching 32 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,380 this particular part. 33 00:02:44,750 --> 00:02:48,730 Because all of us loosely know the story of the Ramayana, but we do not know the 34 00:02:48,730 --> 00:02:53,750 details. And the details are very different from the movies, from the 35 00:02:53,930 --> 00:02:56,530 from the comic books that you've read. 36 00:02:56,830 --> 00:03:00,890 That's the intention with this whole series, that every single Indian gets to 37 00:03:00,890 --> 00:03:05,710 know the real, raw, unfiltered version of the Ramayana. Make sure you check out 38 00:03:05,710 --> 00:03:11,930 the other three parts. But today, enjoy this very special, war -oriented episode 39 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:14,310 of Valmiki's Ramayana. 40 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,320 Begins with Yashodeep Deodarsal in 3, 2, 1. 41 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:33,820 Welcome back, Yashodeep sir. 42 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:35,300 Thank you very much. 43 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,940 Welcome to our series finale. 44 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,640 Thank you for this beautiful series that's going to stay on the internet for 45 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,640 another 50 years. 46 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,420 Thank you very much for this opportunity to take Maharshi Valmiki's words to all 47 00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:47,520 of your audience. 48 00:03:47,940 --> 00:03:48,940 I'm glad. 49 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:56,480 Again, in my eyes, I look at this as duty towards Sanatana Dharma because 50 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,860 generation has its own retelling of Ramayana. For me, it wasn't even 51 00:04:00,860 --> 00:04:02,300 Sagar's Ramayana. It was the anime. 52 00:04:02,730 --> 00:04:07,650 That's how I visualized the Ramayan. And I'm hoping that this podcast series is 53 00:04:07,650 --> 00:04:12,010 kind of a cornerstone for many people's visualization. And definitely they 54 00:04:12,010 --> 00:04:16,709 should eventually find your series that you created on your channel. But this 55 00:04:16,709 --> 00:04:21,950 has been a beautiful experience until now. Like very, very educative. Thank 56 00:04:22,050 --> 00:04:23,550 So welcome back to the studio. 57 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:25,290 This is the series finale. 58 00:04:25,550 --> 00:04:28,610 Yes. Before I let you continue with the story. 59 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:33,800 Let's do a tiny recap of where we left off and then have an additional question 60 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,679 after that. 61 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,500 Okay. So where did we leave off? 62 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:41,840 At the end of our last discussion, Hanuman had come back from Lanka. He had 63 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:45,840 reached Kishkindha and told Shri Ram that he had found Sita in Lanka. 64 00:04:46,540 --> 00:04:51,520 And now the task ahead is very clear. They have to go to Lanka, defeat the 65 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Rakshasas and rescue Sita. That's where we are. 66 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,320 Okay. In my eyes, this... 67 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Episode is about war. 68 00:04:59,460 --> 00:05:04,400 Yes, we will read the book called Yudhkanth, which is called Book of War. 69 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:12,180 And I also feel that for some reason with a lot of Sanatanis, this is one of 70 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:16,540 lesser known aspects of Ramayana for some reason. Everyone knows a lot of 71 00:05:16,540 --> 00:05:20,440 aspects of the previous stories, but we don't know the details of the war. 72 00:05:20,740 --> 00:05:22,500 Do you agree? Do you disagree? 73 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:30,650 Many times in the later retellings, Yes, I have not seen as graphic and 74 00:05:30,650 --> 00:05:33,710 detailed descriptions of the war as in the Valmiki Raman. 75 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:38,570 Some of them are actually gory, very detailed. 76 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:41,970 And it's a fairly large book, the Yudhakan. 77 00:05:42,930 --> 00:05:46,210 So today we'll be covering almost a quarter of the entire story. 78 00:05:46,990 --> 00:05:51,090 Perhaps because it's gory, it's not showcased in mainstream media. 79 00:05:51,730 --> 00:05:53,170 Perhaps, yes. 80 00:05:54,830 --> 00:05:55,950 That's the beauty of podcast. 81 00:05:56,610 --> 00:06:02,370 So, sir, before I let you begin, I have a tiny question that the team picked up 82 00:06:02,370 --> 00:06:06,250 from the comment section on the first two episodes, which was that all these 83 00:06:06,250 --> 00:06:08,970 dialogue exchanges that happen between the characters. 84 00:06:09,830 --> 00:06:12,590 How has Maharishi Valmiki written it accurately? 85 00:06:13,030 --> 00:06:15,850 He wasn't present when the dialogues were happening. 86 00:06:16,270 --> 00:06:19,370 Of course. Yes. So what's your take on that? 87 00:06:19,810 --> 00:06:23,850 Well, this is Rama and means Rama say Ayanam. 88 00:06:24,140 --> 00:06:27,920 Ram's journey. This is Ram's biography, Ramasya Charitam. 89 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,920 So like any biographer, Maharshi Valmiki would have to do the hard work of 90 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,320 speaking to all the characters, the people involved and recreate the 91 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:45,740 that accurately represent the thoughts and emotions of the people at that time. 92 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:50,880 So that is the hard work. But Maharshi Valmiki was also blessed in the sense 93 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:57,480 that in the Ramayana itself, it is said that Brahma, Lord Brahma, who 94 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:04,320 is the creative aspect in divinity, he had blessed Valmiki that he would know 95 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,580 exactly what had happened in each of these events. 96 00:07:07,980 --> 00:07:09,660 That's why we call him a Maharishi as well. 97 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,300 Yes, he was a Maharishi. 98 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,900 You know, I've always thought of this word Maharishi and I discussed it once 99 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:16,620 with, I think, Rajarshi Nandi. 100 00:07:18,510 --> 00:07:23,190 He said that one of the biggest misconceptions about Sanatana Dharma is 101 00:07:23,190 --> 00:07:26,590 goal is simply enlightenment or moksha or nirvana. 102 00:07:27,090 --> 00:07:31,710 But according to Tantra Shastra and Tantra Vidya, there's many, many stages 103 00:07:31,710 --> 00:07:35,890 beyond the stage of enlightenment and moksha. Like you go way beyond. 104 00:07:35,970 --> 00:07:39,990 Enlightenment is in fact a qualification for the next stage of spiritual growth. 105 00:07:40,190 --> 00:07:46,210 What we commonly know as enlightenment. And there's a long pathway up till God. 106 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,840 Somewhere up there is the level of Rishi and way beyond that is Maharishi, where 107 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,100 you almost become eternal. 108 00:07:54,940 --> 00:08:00,940 And, you know, 12 ,000 BC is supposedly when the Ramayana happened. And we're 109 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:04,040 sitting here 14 ,000 years later still talking about Maharishi Valmiki. 110 00:08:04,660 --> 00:08:08,580 Yes, this is an extraordinary text. No doubt about it. 111 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,780 Yeah, there was a divine element that was flowing through him to write the 112 00:08:13,780 --> 00:08:14,780 details of this. 113 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,310 Yes. Okay, now let's move on to war. 114 00:08:19,530 --> 00:08:26,290 Okay, so Hanuman had reported back and Shriram asks him before leaving for 115 00:08:26,290 --> 00:08:32,370 Lanka, he asks him all about the layout and fortifications of the city, the size 116 00:08:32,370 --> 00:08:38,090 and strength of the army, where the different troops are located within the 117 00:08:38,090 --> 00:08:39,510 as well as at the gates. 118 00:08:40,470 --> 00:08:42,570 This was valuable military intelligence. 119 00:08:42,909 --> 00:08:44,770 See, Hanuman had observed Lanka. 120 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,680 At night, when he was searching for Sita. 121 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:53,480 And then again, when Ravan ordered his tail to be put on fire and he was 122 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,220 around, Sri Hanuman made careful observations about the layout of the 123 00:08:58,220 --> 00:09:01,680 this was the military intelligence he now conveyed to Sri Ram. 124 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:06,880 And then Ram gave orders for the army to proceed south. 125 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,900 Time was running out for Sita. They had to get to Lanka fast. 126 00:09:12,140 --> 00:09:17,540 And when he asked the army to proceed south, Ram gave detailed directions. He 127 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:21,380 appointed specific people to guard the front and rear of the army, the left and 128 00:09:21,380 --> 00:09:22,380 right flank. 129 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:27,460 We're talking about Hampi right now, right? Yes. We are in the region of 130 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:30,420 at Kishkindha and we are going south towards Lanka. 131 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Okay. Many times the Vanaras are shown in popular culture or in popular 132 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:38,680 of the Ramayana. 133 00:09:38,990 --> 00:09:43,930 as a disorganized bunch. So if this army had to move south, they simply walked 134 00:09:43,930 --> 00:09:49,490 down. Well, they did walk down, but they were very organized in this. Just like 135 00:09:49,490 --> 00:09:52,570 they had launched the search for Sita in a very organized manner to the four 136 00:09:52,570 --> 00:09:53,570 corners of the world. 137 00:09:54,710 --> 00:09:59,970 Even now, there was a forward party under the direction of Neel who found 138 00:09:59,970 --> 00:10:01,790 the best route for the army. 139 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:03,330 Neel? Yes. 140 00:10:03,610 --> 00:10:10,070 He was a Vanar leader. And the forward party had to determine The path that 141 00:10:10,070 --> 00:10:12,070 offered them enough food and water sources. 142 00:10:12,810 --> 00:10:15,690 Make sure that the water sources weren't poisoned by the enemy. 143 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:21,870 They had to make sure that they did not cause disturbances in the villages and 144 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:24,470 agricultural fields that they passed by and so on. 145 00:10:25,050 --> 00:10:29,370 So there was this forward army and then a forward party and then behind that the 146 00:10:29,370 --> 00:10:30,370 main army. 147 00:10:31,170 --> 00:10:37,950 The army was so huge, millions of Vanaras, that Valmiki says, It was 148 00:10:37,950 --> 00:10:41,190 like a sea that was coming south to meet the ocean. 149 00:10:41,650 --> 00:10:47,630 Wow. As they walked, one night they were resting for a while and Lakshman looked 150 00:10:47,630 --> 00:10:52,850 up at the sky and he remarked that the stars seem to be aligned in our favor. 151 00:10:53,710 --> 00:10:58,850 And then he spoke about some specific stars, constellations and their 152 00:10:59,710 --> 00:11:04,350 And these are the kind of clues that are used again by researchers to date the 153 00:11:04,350 --> 00:11:05,350 events of the Ramayana. 154 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,940 The army proceeded further. They walked day and night with very little rest. 155 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,740 And finally, they came to the southern seashore. 156 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,040 As they looked out to the sea, they were stunned. 157 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,160 How were they going to cross this? 158 00:11:18,820 --> 00:11:24,140 Valmiki says, the sea with its foaming waves seemed to be laughing and dancing. 159 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,220 How were they going to cross? 160 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:32,880 Now, I had said last time as well, the popular story of floating rocks is not 161 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,700 mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayana. 162 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,820 But Valmiki leaves us in suspense as to how the army will actually cross and 163 00:11:39,820 --> 00:11:41,740 then shifts the scene to Lanka. 164 00:11:43,580 --> 00:11:45,940 In Lanka, Ravan was a little unnerved. 165 00:11:46,820 --> 00:11:52,620 Hanuman had caused great damage in the city. He had killed many Rakshasas when 166 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:53,880 he set fire to Lanka, remember. 167 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,320 And now he had heard that an army was marching towards Lanka. 168 00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:04,760 Ravan's younger brother Vibhishan was telling him to let Sita go. 169 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,120 and to avoid war. 170 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,020 He told Ravan, why this war at all? 171 00:12:11,580 --> 00:12:13,220 Ram has not done anything wrong. 172 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,240 It was Kher who attacked Ram and Ram acted in self -defense. 173 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,880 How can you blame him for that? 174 00:12:19,140 --> 00:12:20,900 This is the Shurpanakha chapter. 175 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:23,620 Yes. So it started with Shurpanakha. 176 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,520 Shurpanakha asked Kher to attack Ram. 177 00:12:28,180 --> 00:12:32,800 Kher attacked and got himself killed and Ram wiped out all the Raksha's forces 178 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,800 at Janasthan. 179 00:12:33,930 --> 00:12:38,290 Now, interestingly, in these discussions, you know, we often go back 180 00:12:38,330 --> 00:12:40,970 oh, the Shurpan Kha incident, like you just asked me. 181 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:44,650 But no one mentions Shurpan Kha in this incident. 182 00:12:45,550 --> 00:12:50,130 Between Vibhishan and Ravan, they are only talking about what Ram did to Khar 183 00:12:50,130 --> 00:12:51,190 and the Rakshas forces. 184 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:53,370 And that is why Ravan wants to take revenge. 185 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:58,310 He does not, his primary goal is not to take revenge for what happened to shoot 186 00:12:58,310 --> 00:13:01,810 Pankaj. You know, sometimes we think that that was his primary goal. And so 187 00:13:01,810 --> 00:13:05,390 was in some way justified in abducting Sita. But that is totally incorrect. 188 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:10,910 So Ravan then called a meeting of all his senior most leaders to discuss this 189 00:13:10,910 --> 00:13:11,910 matter. 190 00:13:12,430 --> 00:13:18,050 An army was coming towards them and he wanted to get their thoughts on this. 191 00:13:19,450 --> 00:13:25,540 I want to show you a short video to see what is the Quality of discussion that 192 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:26,900 is going on in Ravan's court. 193 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:35,420 Addressing a packed court, Ravan said, There is one matter I wish to discuss 194 00:13:35,420 --> 00:13:36,420 with all of you. 195 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:42,700 I would have done it sooner, but Kumbhakarna was not available, therefore 196 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:43,700 slight delay. 197 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,160 I have brought Sita, Ram's wife, from Dandakaranya. 198 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:54,440 No other woman is as beautiful and charming as her. 199 00:13:55,380 --> 00:14:01,100 Oh, that gorgeous face, that slender waist and those hips. 200 00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:11,020 My lust for her is driving me crazy. 201 00:14:17,770 --> 00:14:20,190 She refuses to climb into my bed. 202 00:14:21,290 --> 00:14:26,090 And Ram is reportedly on his way to Lanka with an army of Vanaras. 203 00:14:27,330 --> 00:14:32,090 Please suggest what we should do now so that Sita remains with me. 204 00:14:34,390 --> 00:14:40,590 Upon hearing this, Ravan's younger brother Kumbhakarna said, What you have 205 00:14:40,590 --> 00:14:41,590 is not right. 206 00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:44,730 You should have consulted us before. 207 00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:47,350 But never mind. 208 00:14:47,830 --> 00:14:49,630 I will still support you. 209 00:14:50,690 --> 00:14:54,150 I will send off Ram to meet the Lord of Death. 210 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:57,410 And Sita will be yours forever. 211 00:14:58,550 --> 00:15:00,690 My brother, enjoy life. 212 00:15:03,050 --> 00:15:04,370 Mahaparshwa then spoke up. 213 00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:09,750 He did not think a woman's consent or otherwise mattered in any way. 214 00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:12,390 He made this shocking suggestion. 215 00:15:13,890 --> 00:15:15,350 A man is a fool. 216 00:15:15,980 --> 00:15:19,020 if he finds a drink and does not drink it. 217 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,820 O 218 00:15:24,820 --> 00:15:31,700 Lord, 219 00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:37,180 just force yourself on Sita as a rooster forces itself on a hen. 220 00:15:37,940 --> 00:15:40,040 Assault her again and again. 221 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,100 Devour her and enjoy her. 222 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,060 This is shocking. 223 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,220 How could they say such things? 224 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Yes, Ravan's ideas on how women should be treated were shared by those he had 225 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,080 collected around himself. 226 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:05,800 Ravan liked what Mahaparshwa said, but replied, Let me tell you about an 227 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,860 incident that happened a while back. 228 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:13,200 I once crossed paths with the gorgeous Punjikasthala. 229 00:16:14,570 --> 00:16:17,690 Afraid of me, she was trying to sneak away. 230 00:16:18,590 --> 00:16:20,690 But, I 231 00:16:20,690 --> 00:16:27,630 caught hold of her, stripped her 232 00:16:27,630 --> 00:16:29,150 and ravished her. 233 00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:33,530 Afterward, she looked like a trampled lotus. 234 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:41,250 For this, I was cursed by Lord Brahma. 235 00:16:42,060 --> 00:16:47,720 That if I ever violated another woman in such a manner, my head would split into 236 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:48,720 a hundred pieces. 237 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,000 And therefore, I cannot post myself on Sita. 238 00:16:55,780 --> 00:16:58,080 Kind of stuff you can't show on national television. 239 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:02,700 That's why you've never heard this aspect of the story before. 240 00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:04,020 Yes. 241 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:11,300 You know, sometimes people think that Ravan treated women very 242 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:13,920 well. In fact, his treatment was exemplary. 243 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,500 Nothing could be further from the truth. 244 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,240 Maharshi Valmiki has told us clearly what he thought. 245 00:17:21,660 --> 00:17:25,420 Even earlier, he kidnapped Sita because he had a fight with Ram. 246 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,319 That's how it started, right? 247 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,820 So he thought nothing on taking revenge on the man by kidnapping his wife. 248 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:37,960 And at that time, you would recall he grabbed her by the hair, dragged her to 249 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:38,519 the rat. 250 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Later on in Ashok one, he was ready to punch her. 251 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,460 And when Hanuman was looking for Sita, he had gone to Ravan's bedchamber. We 252 00:17:46,460 --> 00:17:50,640 that there were hundreds of women that he had abducted from different lands. In 253 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,880 fact, he was very proud of that. 254 00:17:52,220 --> 00:17:56,420 He had showed off to Sita that you will be the chief among them. Say yes to me. 255 00:17:56,940 --> 00:18:02,340 And now you saw the type of comments he as well as his ministers made about 256 00:18:02,340 --> 00:18:08,380 Sita. Now in this assembly, Vibhishan was the sane voice and he was telling 257 00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:10,960 Ravan to let Sita go and avoid war. 258 00:18:11,420 --> 00:18:16,200 He said, for the good of the Rakshasas, for the good of Lanka, let Sita go. 259 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:19,320 But Indrajit mocked him, Indrajit, Ravan's son. 260 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,400 He said, you are too scared to fight. 261 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,220 And Ravan went on a rant against Vibhishan. 262 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,040 He called him names. 263 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:31,460 And among them, by the way, he called him an Arya, not Arya -like. 264 00:18:31,740 --> 00:18:35,560 So Ravan considered himself Arya, which is a noble person. 265 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:37,400 This has nothing to do with race. 266 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,980 Vibhishan could not take it. 267 00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:49,220 He told Ravan, you are my elder brother and I should respect you like a father. 268 00:18:50,540 --> 00:18:54,900 But you have lost your mind and you are not on the path of dharma, 269 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:56,020 righteousness. 270 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:57,800 I cannot be a party to this. 271 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:01,260 I shall leave now. 272 00:19:01,660 --> 00:19:03,120 Be well without me. 273 00:19:04,820 --> 00:19:09,520 And then Vibhishan left. 274 00:19:10,380 --> 00:19:11,620 And he went to meet Ram. 275 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,180 Now Vibhishan also switched sides. 276 00:19:17,260 --> 00:19:19,000 But he was no backstabbing traitor. 277 00:19:20,220 --> 00:19:24,000 Again in popular culture sometimes Vibhishan is thought of as a traitor. 278 00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:28,500 But see here he told Ravan in open court that I am leaving. 279 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,120 And Ram had not induced him to leave. 280 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,340 And he left for a good reason. He was saying what you are doing is wrong. I 281 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:37,820 cannot be a party to this and so I shall leave. 282 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:46,460 Vibhishan went to meet Ram and he sent a message that he was seeking refuge from 283 00:19:46,460 --> 00:19:48,880 Ram and he would like to join them. 284 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,560 Sugreev was clearly against this. He thought it was too risky. Here was a 285 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,820 brother of Ravan coming and saying that he wanted to join them. 286 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,980 Perhaps this was a trick. He could try and create divisions among them. So 287 00:20:03,980 --> 00:20:07,700 Sugreev recommended that they should not allow Vibhishan to join. 288 00:20:08,570 --> 00:20:10,890 Angad and Jambavan also thought so. 289 00:20:11,790 --> 00:20:15,070 But Hanuman was willing to give him the benefit of doubt. 290 00:20:15,810 --> 00:20:18,430 Also, Hanuman knew something that the others didn't. 291 00:20:18,930 --> 00:20:25,070 When Hanuman had met Sita in Ashokwan, in Lanka, Sita had told him that this 292 00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:27,570 younger brother of Ravan was trying to secure her release. 293 00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:32,110 So with this information, Hanuman's advice was that they should allow him 294 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:35,110 Ram made his decision. 295 00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:38,230 He said, I grant him protection. 296 00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:40,010 Please bring him to me. 297 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:44,670 And he also convinced Sugriv why that was the right thing to do. 298 00:20:45,550 --> 00:20:49,010 Now, this incident brings out Ram's leadership qualities. 299 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:52,910 See, he was open -minded about Vibhishan, even though he was Ravan's 300 00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:57,630 And for this important question, he asked all his advisors what they thought 301 00:20:57,630 --> 00:20:58,529 it. 302 00:20:58,530 --> 00:21:00,550 The advisors had differing opinions. 303 00:21:01,850 --> 00:21:05,050 Ram then made a decision, which was a risky call. 304 00:21:05,470 --> 00:21:09,790 He was willing to make this risky decision, but he also explained his 305 00:21:09,790 --> 00:21:14,410 brought along the others who were earlier speaking, who had earlier 306 00:21:14,410 --> 00:21:16,370 otherwise. Who were the advisors? 307 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:19,690 Sugriv, Jambavan, Hanuman, all of them. 308 00:21:19,890 --> 00:21:22,130 Now, compare these leadership styles. 309 00:21:22,570 --> 00:21:27,570 You know, we just saw how Ram treated this question. On the other hand, Ravan, 310 00:21:27,670 --> 00:21:32,990 he made the decision to abduct Sita and pick a fight with Ram without consulting 311 00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:34,550 anyone. That is how... 312 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:39,020 Ravan made his decision. And when he heard that an army was marching towards 313 00:21:39,020 --> 00:21:44,700 him, he called his advisors for a meeting and Vibhishan spoke up against 314 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:45,700 threw him out. 315 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,240 So these were two different leadership styles. 316 00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:51,820 So now Vibhishan had joined them. 317 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:56,580 But still the challenge in front of them was how to cross the ocean. 318 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,860 In fact, even earlier, at the end of Sundarkand, you would remember Hanuman 319 00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:03,860 told Sita. 320 00:22:04,290 --> 00:22:07,570 gallantly, that before long you shall hear the roar of the Vanaras. 321 00:22:08,430 --> 00:22:11,550 And Sita had asked him, but how will they cross the ocean? 322 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:20,210 Hanuman did not have an answer at that time. But he had assured her. He had 323 00:22:20,210 --> 00:22:23,430 said, if I can do it, so can the others. Don't worry about it. 324 00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:30,850 Even now, Sugriv told Ram, if somehow we can cross the ocean, once we see the 325 00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:32,630 city of Lanka, consider Ravan dead. 326 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,220 But how to cross the ocean was now something Ram had to address. 327 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,220 Valmiki then describes Ram's actions very poetically. 328 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,960 I'll tell you how he has actually described it and then later what it 329 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:56,820 Ram folded his hands in front of the ocean and then lay down gazing at its 330 00:22:56,820 --> 00:22:58,940 waters for three days and three nights. 331 00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:01,460 That is how Maharishi Valmiki has described it. 332 00:23:01,930 --> 00:23:05,530 And then he fired off arrows at the ocean. 333 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:10,450 The lord of the sea appeared and then showed him the way to go across. 334 00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:16,610 What it means is that Ram stood gazing at the sea. He was observing the sea for 335 00:23:16,610 --> 00:23:17,650 three days and three nights. 336 00:23:18,410 --> 00:23:23,990 The currents, the tides, the rise and fall of water, how sandbanks and islands 337 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:25,070 appeared in it. 338 00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:27,770 See, that part of the sea is very shallow. 339 00:23:28,030 --> 00:23:32,430 So as the tide recedes, there are sandbanks and small islands that come 340 00:23:34,190 --> 00:23:37,910 And Ram was trying to determine the best location to construct the Setu. 341 00:23:38,270 --> 00:23:40,930 The place where the distance to the other side is minimal. 342 00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:44,730 The tides and currents are favorable. 343 00:23:45,290 --> 00:23:48,910 And this is likely Rameshwaram? Yes, most likely. 344 00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:55,210 In fact, from Rameshwaram, further out, there is a place called Dhanushkodi. And 345 00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:56,250 then from then... 346 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,500 You can see from satellite images that there are small structures along the 347 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,760 See, right now what we know is Ram has identified the site selection. 348 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:13,280 And then he asked Nall, the greatest construction experts among the Vanaras, 349 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,140 to construct the Setu. 350 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:19,140 The idea of the Setu was very simple. 351 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:25,940 They were going to fill up the sea with big boulders, rocks, mud, 352 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:29,460 and tree trunks on top. 353 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,520 So this was a bund or an embankment, not a floating bridge. 354 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,060 Although the idea was very simple, the scale of this project was staggering. 355 00:24:39,260 --> 00:24:43,780 Think about it. You're standing at the seashore and somewhere far beyond the 356 00:24:43,780 --> 00:24:48,000 horizon, there is an island and your plan is to fill up the sea and walk 357 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:54,500 And then under the direction of Ram, hundreds of thousands of Vanaras sprang 358 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:55,500 into action. 359 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:01,420 They went to the forest, cut boulders, tree trunks, brought it all back to the 360 00:25:01,420 --> 00:25:05,040 shore and started filling up the sea. Once again, they were very methodical. 361 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:08,420 They used different types of devices, yantraihi. 362 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:12,260 Also, different teams were assigned to do different tasks. 363 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,540 Some worked on getting all the material, others on tying up things, others on 364 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:19,140 making measurements and so on. 365 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,520 And slowly, the Setu started taking shape. 366 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,180 On the first day, they covered a distance of 14 Yojanas. 367 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,420 And then they picked up speed and over the next four days, covered 20, 21, 22 368 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:34,900 and 23 Yojanas. 369 00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:40,340 And thus, they covered the entire 100 Yojanas of the Setu. 370 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,940 Remember, this was the distance that Hanuman had to go across as well in our 371 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:47,520 last session. Is anything said about the time it took? 372 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:48,980 Five days. 373 00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:50,280 Wow. Yes. 374 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:54,810 In fact, this is very, Valmiki is very specifically told about how much they 375 00:25:54,810 --> 00:25:57,070 covered on each day. 376 00:25:57,730 --> 00:26:02,890 It was a giant Setu, extremely well constructed. 377 00:26:03,790 --> 00:26:09,850 In fact, the scale was astonishing, beyond conception. 378 00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:18,930 And on this, Setu, millions of Vanaras started walking across. 379 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:26,720 By the way, this Setu, interestingly, in the Ramayan is called Nal Setu, not Ram 380 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,440 Setu. So named after the chief engineer. 381 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,300 They walked across and without any challenge from the Rakshasas, they 382 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:37,340 close to the city of Lanka. 383 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,580 Note, this is already a strategic mistake by Ravan. 384 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:48,360 He could have attacked this army as they were landing on Lanka. That would have 385 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,940 been a weaker point for them. 386 00:26:50,490 --> 00:26:55,330 But he allowed them to finish the Setu, come across and come almost up to the 387 00:26:55,330 --> 00:26:56,330 city of Lanka. 388 00:26:56,730 --> 00:27:00,450 And the reason he did that was he was not expecting this at all. 389 00:27:01,030 --> 00:27:06,370 See, Ravan was always very confident that no army could cross the ocean. In 390 00:27:06,370 --> 00:27:09,870 fact, even now he said, what Ram has done is unprecedented. 391 00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:11,630 I still can't believe it. 392 00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:13,730 Making a Setu across the ocean. 393 00:27:16,910 --> 00:27:19,910 He realized that he had clearly underestimated the enemy. 394 00:27:21,410 --> 00:27:26,250 So he asked some of his spies to go into the enemy camp and find out more about 395 00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:30,430 them. How many are they? Who are the leaders? What are they telling Ram? And 396 00:27:30,430 --> 00:27:34,390 on. The spies, when they came back, they reported to Ravan. 397 00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:38,790 And now here, Maharshi Valmiki takes a detour. See, we've taken a few of these 398 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:39,749 detours earlier. 399 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:43,910 You would recall when Sugriv was sending the parties to search for Sita. 400 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,180 We looked at a detour about a world atlas, geography, at another time about 401 00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:54,640 botany or the kachit discussion right in the beginning in Chitrakoot between 402 00:27:54,640 --> 00:28:00,300 Bharat and Ram, which was a detour on governance, the oldest text on 403 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,600 And now this detour is on mathematical terms. 404 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,960 So this is an interesting point to put this detour. 405 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,960 Ravan has asked, how many are they? 406 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560 And the spies are giving that answer. 407 00:28:14,140 --> 00:28:15,280 How large is the enemy? 408 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,640 I'll show you some of the actual verses here. 409 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,500 So the first verse. 410 00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:35,460 100 of 100 ,000 is called 1 crore. 411 00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:42,020 So 100 lakh is 1 crore. He's defining 10 raised to the power 7. 412 00:28:42,260 --> 00:28:43,560 And then further he says. 413 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:50,360 100 ,000 crores is one shanku, which is 10 raised to the power 12, or in today's 414 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,360 terms, trillion. 415 00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:55,320 1, 0, 0, 0, 12 zeros is one shanku. 416 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:03,220 And then over the next few slokas, he is describing 100 ,000 shankus make 417 00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:08,580 up maha shanku. 100 ,000 maha shankus is equal to one vrinda. 418 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,060 And it goes on. 419 00:29:10,510 --> 00:29:16,190 Maha Vrinda, Padma, Maha Padma, Kharva, Maha Kharva, Samudra, Ogha and Maha 420 00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:17,190 Ogha. 421 00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:21,470 A Maha Ogha has 10 raised to the power 60 zeros. 422 00:29:21,670 --> 00:29:24,890 Wow. Why do we need math like this? Exactly. 423 00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:26,830 Now that's an interesting question. 424 00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:32,450 The fact that Murphy Valmiki has defined these terms means the mathematicians of 425 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:36,190 that time required these terms. Whether it's for astronomical calculations or 426 00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:37,190 construction. 427 00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:39,230 Some sort of precision. 428 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,720 And the scale of calculations. 429 00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:49,160 Also, clearly this is an exaggeration. 430 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,780 If you look at the total, so by the way, the spies after they finish all these 431 00:29:53,780 --> 00:30:00,520 definitions, they say the Vanara army is many, many Maha Oghas, right? More than 432 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,520 10 raised to the power 60. 433 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,440 This is clearly an exaggeration because if you look at the total surface area of 434 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,090 the earth, And you assume that, let's say, one Vanara needs even one square 435 00:30:10,090 --> 00:30:11,090 foot. 436 00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:16,050 Then so many Vanaras cannot fit on the earth. Not only the earth, they cannot 437 00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:20,270 fit even if you pack them on all the planets of the solar system. Or even a 438 00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:23,230 trillion earths are not enough. So clearly this is an exaggeration. 439 00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:29,490 Now, so Maharshi Valmiki, as far as the size goes, the answer is it was a huge 440 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:33,990 army. And he has used this to define these mathematical terms. 441 00:30:35,470 --> 00:30:38,290 So this huge army was at Ravan's doorstep. 442 00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:45,810 But he was more interested in playing dirty tricks and intrigue 443 00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:47,950 rather than preparing for battle. 444 00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:53,110 He came up with a plan to deceive Sita and get her to submit to him. 445 00:30:54,270 --> 00:31:01,210 He called the Rakshas Vidyujjiva and instructed him to make a lifelike 446 00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:02,210 of Ram's head. 447 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,620 Vidyut Jiva was an expert in this and he made a very realistic model. 448 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,140 And then Ravan went to meet Sita. 449 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:15,240 He told her cheerfully, Your dear husband is dead. 450 00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:16,740 You fool. 451 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,960 You kept refusing me because you thought that Ram will come and save you. 452 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:22,780 But how will he come now? 453 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,500 Let me tell you how it all happened. 454 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,340 Ram was coming here together with some Vanaras and they had camped on the other 455 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:32,600 side of the ocean. 456 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:37,100 And my forces under the leadership of Prahat went there at night. 457 00:31:37,660 --> 00:31:42,920 And while Ram was sleeping, Prahat's sword sliced through his neck without 458 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,920 problem. 459 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,920 I have got his blood -soaked head for you to see. 460 00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:52,920 Then he turned to the Rakshasis and said, Go and get Vidyut Jiva. He was the 461 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,300 who got the head from the battlefield. 462 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,820 Vidyut Jiva came on cue and he threw the head at Sita's feet. 463 00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:02,820 Sita screamed. 464 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,780 She thought this was Ram's head. 465 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:09,600 She sank to the ground, cried bitterly. 466 00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:12,200 Sita was completely crushed. 467 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:19,100 But even then, Ravan could not get what he wanted, her consent. That was out of 468 00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:20,100 the question. 469 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,620 Just then, a messenger came and told Ravan, Aryaputra, there is a matter that 470 00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:28,160 the ministers want to discuss with you. 471 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:30,680 Please come to the court urgently. 472 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,320 And Ravan went away. 473 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,620 Sita was still trembling. One of the Rakshasis that had been put to guard her 474 00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:41,080 had become friendly with her. 475 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,980 And she told Sita, don't worry about it. 476 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,700 This is all a trick. 477 00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:50,720 Ram is well. In fact, the army has crossed over to this side. 478 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:56,060 There is going to be a war soon. In fact, you can hear the preparations for 479 00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:56,959 war. 480 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,300 Don't worry. You shall soon be with Ram. 481 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:07,200 In Ravan's court, there were people who were making last -ditch efforts to try 482 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,180 and save, try and avert war. 483 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,620 Ravan's own mother told him to let Sita go. 484 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:18,880 Ravan's maternal grandfather said, make peace with Ram. 485 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,220 It is not wise to fight him. 486 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,960 But Ravan was clear. 487 00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:33,290 I may get cut into two pieces, but I will never bend. 488 00:33:33,890 --> 00:33:38,090 Meanwhile, in the Vanar camp, Ram was making preparations for the attack. 489 00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:43,670 He assigned specific people to attack the different gates of the city the next 490 00:33:43,670 --> 00:33:49,810 day. He also told everyone not to take off their Vanar attire because this was 491 00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:51,470 going to be a battle at close quarters. 492 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:55,550 So the Vanar attire will tell who is on which side. 493 00:33:58,250 --> 00:34:03,470 Which probably also means that the Raksha's army looked like normal human 494 00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:04,970 beings. Yes, yes. 495 00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:11,670 Okay. Later that night, as Ram looked up at the skyline of Lanka, 496 00:34:11,929 --> 00:34:17,670 he thought that one person makes a mistake and so many have to suffer. He 497 00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:19,150 that this would be a terrible war. 498 00:34:19,429 --> 00:34:22,070 Both sides would suffer heavy casualties. 499 00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:26,130 And he decided to make one last attempt at peace. 500 00:34:27,179 --> 00:34:32,000 So in the morning, he sent Angad to speak to Ravan. 501 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:34,739 Angad went to Ravan's court. 502 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,199 Ravan was sitting on his magnificent throne. 503 00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:41,000 Angad introduced himself. 504 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,400 He said, I am Wali's son and Ram's messenger. 505 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:47,719 My name is Angad. 506 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,800 You may have heard about me. 507 00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:53,960 Honestly, when it comes to Angad, it's a character that fascinated me a lot. 508 00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,700 ever since I saw the animated Ramayana because that, again, for the child in 509 00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:58,800 that's my reference point. 510 00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:03,220 They've shown him very beautifully in that film. 511 00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:08,260 You don't hear too much about Angad when someone is skimming through the story 512 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:13,860 of the Ramayana, but certain retellings highlight him a lot. So there is this 513 00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:17,880 one interaction that he has with Ravan that I loosely remember where he 514 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,440 showcases acrobatics and something around his tail. I can't remember the 515 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,090 story. Yes, in fact, in popular retellings, this is where it comes. 516 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:31,390 So in other retellings, not in the Valmiki Ramayana, it is said that Angad 517 00:35:31,390 --> 00:35:33,190 his tail to a great length. 518 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:39,170 He coiled it and then sat on top of it so that he was at an equal height to 519 00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:40,170 Ravan. 520 00:35:40,650 --> 00:35:45,550 Now, in the Valmiki Ramayana, that is not described. But I just told you how 521 00:35:45,550 --> 00:35:49,170 spoke to Ravan, even though he is a young boy, maybe a teenager. 522 00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:54,320 And he said, You know, to this great king of the Rakshasas, he spoke to him 523 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,299 an equal. 524 00:35:55,300 --> 00:36:01,360 Now, many times the story of Ramayana is depicted in sculptures or paintings, 525 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,660 right? How do you show confidence in stone? 526 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,700 So this is a beautiful way. 527 00:36:07,140 --> 00:36:12,080 The coiled tail and raising himself at a height, a beautiful way to depict that 528 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,220 Angad spoke to him with confidence. 529 00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,900 So many of the other retellings, you know, they are... 530 00:36:19,210 --> 00:36:23,050 they are true to the spirit of the Valmiki Ramayana, even though they may 531 00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:24,110 telling the story differently. 532 00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:29,510 Just now we had also heard the story of how the Setu was constructed. 533 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:34,890 Now the later retellings where they talk about the Vanaras writing Ram's name on 534 00:36:34,890 --> 00:36:37,630 rock and because of which the rocks were floating. 535 00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:43,910 Again, it conveys the sentiment that the Vanaras were inspired by Ram in every 536 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:48,810 step. So once we understand the Valmiki Ramayana, we can actually understand 537 00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:51,950 Understand and appreciate the other versions as well. Even though they are 538 00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:53,350 telling the story in a different way. 539 00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:57,770 And then he gave Ram's message to Ravan. 540 00:36:58,290 --> 00:36:59,750 You vile rakshas. 541 00:37:00,910 --> 00:37:03,750 For too long people have suffered because of you. 542 00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:05,190 But no more. 543 00:37:06,730 --> 00:37:10,250 It was so brave of you to kidnap Sita while I was away. 544 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:14,330 Well now is the time to show your bravery once again. 545 00:37:14,770 --> 00:37:16,370 But this time on the battlefield. 546 00:37:17,050 --> 00:37:18,390 Come out and fight with me. 547 00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:23,810 But before you come, make sure you have done the preparations for your last 548 00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:24,810 rites. 549 00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:28,730 For I will surely kill you and everyone who supports you. 550 00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:31,490 This was Ram's message delivered by Angad. 551 00:37:33,490 --> 00:37:35,190 Ravan was crazed with anger. 552 00:37:36,010 --> 00:37:38,370 And he ordered, kill this vanar. 553 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:44,330 Once again note, Ravan paid no heed to the code among kings that an ambassador 554 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,970 or envoy should not be killed. 555 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,840 But he gave the orders to kill. 556 00:37:48,340 --> 00:37:50,660 Four Rakshasas came and grabbed Angad. 557 00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:56,640 And that's when Angad threw them off swiftly and they went tumbling. 558 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,000 And he jumped onto a balcony. 559 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:04,460 And there he kicked and broke the balcony, destroyed the roof. 560 00:38:04,820 --> 00:38:08,780 And then jumping from one rooftop to the next, he went out of the city. 561 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:13,120 Ravan had rejected the last peace offer. 562 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,100 So now it was time. 563 00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:17,640 to charge on to the gates of Lanka. 564 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,320 Ram gave the orders. 565 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,660 And remember, Lanka had a boundary wall and outside the wall there was a moat. 566 00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:30,300 But this was hardly a challenge for the Vanaras. They had just filled up the 567 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:35,440 sea. So filling up the moat was fairly simple. Once again, they filled it up 568 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,860 with rocks and mud and logs of wood and charged on the gates. 569 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,680 The gates came crashing down. They broke the boundary wall as well at some 570 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,700 point. And then Ravan gave the order to counter -attack. 571 00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:52,060 This is the beginning of the battle? This is the beginning of the battle. 572 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:57,780 There's the very common story about Ravan being a Shiva Bhakt and praying to 573 00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:00,000 Shiva for his powers, etc. 574 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:07,020 Is anything said about Ravan's spiritual journey or his tantra -based journey at 575 00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:08,260 all in the Valmiki Ramayana? 576 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,100 No, those things are emphasized much more in the later retellings. 577 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,500 In the Valmiki Ramayan, Ravan is a great warrior, no doubt. 578 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,180 And even as far as preparations go, there is no puja that he does at the 579 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:29,060 beginning. He prepares his arms and gets ready for battle. By the way, in this 580 00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:33,640 first instance, he does not come out himself. So he will come out in some 581 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,060 But there is no mention of him going about any spiritual practice. 582 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960 Not in the Valmiki Ramayan, from Balakan to the Yudhakan. 583 00:39:44,010 --> 00:39:47,230 Right in the beginning, I think we had once spoken about the Uttarakhand. 584 00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:50,990 Remember that the Uttarakhand was not written by Valmiki. 585 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:56,050 So whenever I'm saying that something is or is not a part of the Valmiki 586 00:39:56,050 --> 00:40:00,610 Ramayana, I'm talking about Balakand to Yuddakand. Gotcha. These are all 587 00:40:00,610 --> 00:40:03,310 additional anecdotes. Yes. Okay. 588 00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:04,750 Now let's move on. 589 00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:07,710 So Ravan gave the order to counterattack. 590 00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:12,570 And the Rakshasas came with their horses, chariots, elephants. 591 00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:17,480 They had all the yastras and shastras, bows and arrows, spears. See, the 592 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,040 had nothing. They were fighting with rocks, tree trunks, their bare hands. 593 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,120 And the Rakshasami was extremely well equipped. 594 00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,900 And they were able to push back the Vanaras a little bit. So most of the 595 00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:31,520 happened outside the city gates. 596 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,480 Although they had broken through the gates on the first day itself, the 597 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,260 battleground was outside the city. 598 00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,040 Again, tiny interjection. 599 00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:48,080 You believe after studying the Valmiki Ramayana that this was the island of Sri 600 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,200 Lanka. Yes. 601 00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:50,420 Right? Yes. 602 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:58,500 My question to you is that part of India where Rameshwaram is, right? You see 603 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,580 that little strip of land that joins the island of Sri Lanka. 604 00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:08,160 So within Sri Lanka, is there a particular geographical location that 605 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160 was the location of this battle? 606 00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:14,000 See, based on the descriptions of the Valmiki Ramayana, you cannot accurately 607 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,880 pinpoint where exactly on the island it took place. 608 00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:22,040 But it's possibly near that strip of land that we see on geographical maps. 609 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,780 No, the strip of land connected it to the larger island of Lanka. 610 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,580 But we don't know exactly where. As far as the descriptions of the Valmiki 611 00:41:30,580 --> 00:41:32,420 Ramayana goes. Have you been to Sri Lanka yourself? 612 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,820 Yes, yes. You have? Yes. I think we spoke about this in our first episode, 613 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:35,900 right? Yes. 614 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,360 What did you feel there? 615 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,180 No, like all the... 616 00:41:39,850 --> 00:41:46,690 descriptions of the main locations, Ayodhya, Panchavati, Kishkindha and 617 00:41:46,690 --> 00:41:50,910 Lanka, right? There is a feeling. 618 00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:57,790 So you asked me what I felt, right? In all these locations, there is a special 619 00:41:57,790 --> 00:42:04,790 feeling that these locations have been witness to what Shri Ram, 620 00:42:04,850 --> 00:42:08,170 Lakshman, Sita and Hanuman did. So it's a special feeling. 621 00:42:08,530 --> 00:42:11,610 Gotcha. Okay, I will let you carry on with the story. 622 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:13,490 Now the war is at close combat. 623 00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:17,710 See, the Rakshasas have lost another strategic advantage. 624 00:42:18,930 --> 00:42:22,430 First of all, they were on an island. They could have attacked the army as it 625 00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:23,430 was landing. 626 00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:28,230 Secondly, they had arms that they could fire from a distance, bows and arrows, 627 00:42:28,410 --> 00:42:29,410 spears. 628 00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:33,210 They could have attacked the army while it was still outside the boundary wall. 629 00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:35,830 But now it was a man -to -man combat. 630 00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:38,690 And this played to the Vanaras' advantage. 631 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:45,220 And on this first day, the Vanaras kept winning again and again. Although both 632 00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:50,020 sides suffered heavy casualties, the Rakshasas were losing more numbers, they 633 00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:56,240 were losing their leaders. But then the tide turned because of someone who 634 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,800 fought in a very different way. And this was Ravan's son Indrajit. 635 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:06,960 Valmiki says he made himself invisible, adrishya. 636 00:43:08,430 --> 00:43:12,190 In other words, he fought in a way that it was extremely difficult to figure out 637 00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:13,250 where he was firing from. 638 00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:19,350 Stealth. Stealth. He would fire from behind the enemy lines, not right at the 639 00:43:19,350 --> 00:43:20,109 front lines. 640 00:43:20,110 --> 00:43:25,330 Also, he would fire things that would explode in the air and then release 641 00:43:25,330 --> 00:43:28,110 arrows. So you don't know where he is firing from. 642 00:43:29,310 --> 00:43:35,310 And he killed hundreds of Vanaras. He caused great destruction in the Vanar 643 00:43:35,310 --> 00:43:36,310 army. 644 00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:40,850 And then he targeted Ram and Lakshman. Soon they were bleeding heavily. 645 00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:45,130 His arrows were laced with poison. So they couldn't even react. 646 00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:49,650 And then Ram and Lakshman collapsed on the ground. 647 00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:51,790 Unconscious. 648 00:43:52,890 --> 00:43:56,230 And Indrajit incorrectly thought that his job was done. 649 00:43:56,730 --> 00:43:58,230 And he went back into the city. 650 00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:02,950 He went and reported to Ravan that he had killed Ram and Lakshman. 651 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:06,010 Ravan got up, hugged his son. 652 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,500 and thought that the war was over on the very first day. 653 00:44:09,740 --> 00:44:13,920 Outside, the Vanaras made a protective circle around Ram and Lakshman. 654 00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:17,000 They were only unconscious, not dead. 655 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,140 Ram regained consciousness after some time, but he was grievously injured. 656 00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:29,320 Sugriv asked Sushena, who was the medical expert among the Vanaras, 657 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,140 should take back Ram and Lakshman to Kishkindha to recover. But Sushena said 658 00:44:33,140 --> 00:44:35,440 that they had to quickly administer two herbs. 659 00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:40,650 Sanjeevani and Vishalya Karani to Ram and Lakshman. 660 00:44:41,650 --> 00:44:43,150 Now, where to get these herbs? 661 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:47,090 Wow. Until now, the traditional story I've heard is that it was just Lakshman 662 00:44:47,090 --> 00:44:48,430 Bhagwan who collapsed. 663 00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:50,210 That is coming later. 664 00:44:50,810 --> 00:44:53,730 Okay, wow. Yes, that happens again. This is the first time I'm hearing this 665 00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:58,390 story. So right now, Ram and Lakshman both need Sanjeevani and Vishalya 666 00:44:58,530 --> 00:45:02,830 They're discussing where to get it from. And at that time, a Garuda appears. 667 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,620 Garud were also forest dwellers who dressed up like eagles. 668 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,160 So we have seen forest dwellers who dressed up like monkeys or bears or 669 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,680 vultures. This one dressed up like an eagle. He came and he took out the 670 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,480 from Ram and Lakshman's bodies, nursed their wounds and they recovered. 671 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:24,160 And Ram asked him, who are you? 672 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,500 And all he said was, I am your friend, O Kakutth. 673 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,100 These Rakshasas don't fight fair. 674 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,760 Be careful. 675 00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:39,930 So, you see, people not associated with the war also, like this Garud, were 676 00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:40,930 rooting for Ram. 677 00:45:41,110 --> 00:45:46,030 And the Garud himself said, I heard that you were in trouble, so I came to help 678 00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:47,030 you. 679 00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:52,390 We saw this earlier as well. King Guha in Sringaverpur, he was ready to lay 680 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:56,730 his life for Ram, even though he had not asked for it. Or Jatayu, who gave up 681 00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:58,050 his life trying to protect Sita. 682 00:45:58,310 --> 00:46:04,400 So, all of these communities and peoples, had immense, the Ikshwakus had 683 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,260 goodwill among them and they were all rooting for Ram's success. 684 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:14,720 Poetically, so I believe Garud is also Vishnu Bhagwan's one, right? That is the 685 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:20,360 animal associated with Lord Vishnu, whose avatar is Shri Ram. 686 00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:27,380 So when Ram and Lakshman recovered, there was a roar among the Vanaras and 687 00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:28,680 heard that roar in his court. 688 00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:30,860 See, he was prematurely celebrating. 689 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,920 that he had won the war. But when he heard the roar, he realized that 690 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,540 was wrong. And when he found out, he ordered his army to attack once again. 691 00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:41,540 Vanaras were winning. 692 00:46:41,980 --> 00:46:45,660 Both sides suffered heavy casualties, but the Vanaras were winning. 693 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,580 And then Ravan came out for the first time into the battlefield. 694 00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:57,560 By the way, when he came out, interestingly, Vibhishan pointed him out 695 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:03,780 And it's interesting that Vibhishan said there, in that distance, the towering 696 00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:09,640 person under the white kshatra, canopy, who's radiant like the sun, that is 697 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,640 Ravan. 698 00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:17,720 We spoke about Ravan's ten heads, whether it was a throne or actually he 699 00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:21,400 heads. Now think about it. If he really had ten heads, one in the middle, five 700 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,500 on one side, four on the other, how would Vibhishan have pointed him out? 701 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,700 There, that person with the ten heads, that is Ravan. That's not what Vibhishan 702 00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:34,300 said. Ravan laid into the Vanaras. He was causing great destruction. 703 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,540 But Ram went and engaged with him. 704 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:44,080 And Ram struck an arrow in Ravan's chest, which hit him like a thunderbolt, 705 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,080 he dropped his bow. 706 00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:48,560 Ram's next arrow took off Ravan's crown. 707 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,340 And then Ravan went back into the city. 708 00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:54,020 He retreated. 709 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,260 See, Ravan was a great warrior, but he knew his own limitations. He was not 710 00:47:58,260 --> 00:47:59,260 invincible. 711 00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:05,380 Even earlier, he did not attack Ram head on in Panchavati. He took him away, 712 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:12,160 deceiving him and then abducted Sita. And even now, he realized that he needed 713 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,160 to retreat to fight another day. 714 00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:19,840 When we're thinking about this battle, what is the kind of weaponry that one 715 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,280 should visualize? 716 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,260 Because it's usually bows and arrows and swords. 717 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,320 We spoke about Indrajit briefly. 718 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,660 Sounds very similar to the Mahabharata weaponry of like arrows that kind of are 719 00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:33,920 like missiles, poisonous arrows, etc. 720 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,640 So what do you visualize when it comes to weaponry? 721 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,900 It is all that you said. 722 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:42,040 But in addition, this is a very strange war. 723 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,240 That one side has none of this. 724 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,240 All the weaponry is on one side only. 725 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,220 The Vanaras... 726 00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:57,030 fought with their bare hands and they would punch, kick, 727 00:48:57,210 --> 00:49:02,030 throw stones, even bite or they would pick up the weapons of the Rakshasas 728 00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:03,890 themselves and hit them. 729 00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:11,690 In fact, I want to show you some clips from the battle scene itself for you to 730 00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:12,690 visualize this. 731 00:49:13,610 --> 00:49:16,950 Ravan was furious when he learned what had happened. 732 00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:20,130 He then sent off Vajradhanashtra. 733 00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:21,760 to lead the next charge. 734 00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:26,920 Vajradhanashtra led his forces out of the southern gate. 735 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,600 Here the Vanarami was under the charge of the young Angad. 736 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,820 Once again, it was a dreadful fight. 737 00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:42,660 Soon the battleground was littered with severed heads, limbs and torsos. 738 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,640 Crows and vultures gathered for the feast. 739 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,980 Angad started working his way towards Vajradhanashtra, who was causing many 740 00:49:58,980 --> 00:50:00,840 casualties among the Vanaras. 741 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,540 The Rakshas saw him coming and struck him with a volley of arrows. 742 00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:12,360 Angad's body was drenched in blood, but he kept going closer. 743 00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:14,440 And then... 744 00:50:14,910 --> 00:50:19,550 Angad threw a large rock at Vajradhanashtra's chariot and wrecked 745 00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:24,510 This forced the Rakshas to fight Angad in a hand -to -hand duel. 746 00:50:25,950 --> 00:50:30,790 Just like Hanuman, Angad had forced his adversary off his chariot. 747 00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:36,150 Engaging their enemies at close quarters paid to the Vanaras' advantage. 748 00:50:37,770 --> 00:50:42,390 Angad and Vajradhanashtra punched and hit each other viciously. 749 00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:47,240 Both were soon exhausted and started vomiting blood. 750 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,960 Angad picked up a tree trunk and the rakshas grabbed a sword. 751 00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:04,760 They struck each other until both were so tired that they fell to their knees. 752 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,940 And then Angad tapped his last bit of energy. 753 00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:15,780 He pounced on Vajradhanashtra, grabbed his sword in a flash and cut off his 754 00:51:15,780 --> 00:51:16,780 head. 755 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,900 The Rakshas troops lost courage upon seeing their fallen general and ran back 756 00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:23,900 Lanka. 757 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:29,280 Ravan then ordered Akampan to lead the next Rakshas assault. 758 00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:34,440 Akampan also targeted the Vanar troops near the western gate. 759 00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:36,840 Valmiki said, 760 00:51:37,610 --> 00:51:42,210 The warring forces kicked up a cloud of dust that covered the entire 761 00:51:42,210 --> 00:51:43,210 battlefield. 762 00:51:43,890 --> 00:51:45,790 One could not see much. 763 00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:53,570 But after some time, the dust settled because the ground had become soaked 764 00:51:53,570 --> 00:51:54,570 with blood. 765 00:51:55,410 --> 00:51:58,390 And then a terrible picture emerged. 766 00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:02,670 The battlefield was covered with dead bodies. 767 00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:12,350 I have to break away from the story just a little bit. 768 00:52:12,570 --> 00:52:15,670 Couple of things. Sure. First thing I want to say is, wow. 769 00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:17,310 Love the battle parts. 770 00:52:17,830 --> 00:52:21,810 And this is the kind of stuff, again, that's not spoken about in lore. 771 00:52:22,110 --> 00:52:23,690 I didn't even know this Angad story. 772 00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:29,210 And, you know, this was a relentless war. Day and night. It was not like the 773 00:52:29,210 --> 00:52:31,710 Mahabharata from daybreak till sunset. 774 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,320 Yeah, I've always wondered this about the Ramayan battle. In fact, when we 775 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,660 started this series, this is the episode I was looking forward to the most 776 00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:43,260 because it's the one that's the most crowded in mystery because we've not 777 00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:44,900 shown it in commercial media. 778 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,680 That's the first thing I want to say. 779 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,900 The second thing I want to say is when I'm viewing your work, there's a part of 780 00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:57,980 me that views it as a content creator, as an editor and the kind of music 781 00:52:57,980 --> 00:52:59,120 used, the kind of... 782 00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:05,000 words you've chosen to use like what I sense and I'm not just saying this 783 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,240 because you're sitting in front of me this is a very objective opinion I 784 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:13,280 genuinely feel that Maharishi Valmiki's energy is flowing through you to make 785 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,380 this happen the only compliment for you here is honestly I feel you've been 786 00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:25,100 humble enough through the storytelling process to allow that higher energy to 787 00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:29,570 flow through you like So many people are trying to do this exact job that you've 788 00:53:29,570 --> 00:53:34,570 done. But I think you had the right mindset to do the story in a very true 789 00:53:34,570 --> 00:53:39,630 the art form way. Thank you very much. I'm truly humbled to hear this. 790 00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:45,850 My entire effort has been to make sure I'm conveying what Maharshi Valmiki 791 00:53:45,850 --> 00:53:51,470 to say and not my interpretation or, you know, there should be as little of me. 792 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,000 And people find out what is it that is actually said in the Valmiki Ramayana. 793 00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,860 It's been a very humbling experience for me also to sit in front of you because 794 00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:05,560 at my age, 31, with this kind of glamour around me, one of the challenges has 795 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,860 been to, you know, tread carefully along this path and not become arrogant and 796 00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:14,100 all that. But when I meet people like you who are doing this kind of work in 797 00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:18,660 such a humble way, plus you had a flourishing business career, all that, 798 00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:19,660 still this guy. 799 00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:24,500 God chose you to say this story for our generation. 800 00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:29,740 There's a lot of learning, even subliminally, beyond just the story. 801 00:54:29,740 --> 00:54:33,780 so much for saying that. Thanks for coming to the studio. And we inaugurated 802 00:54:33,780 --> 00:54:38,220 studio with you and my mother. So I'm glad. Yes, the first episode we did. 803 00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:42,620 Please go on now. Pardon this short tangent. 804 00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:43,900 Not at all. 805 00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:47,540 So we saw that the Vanaras were winning. 806 00:54:48,830 --> 00:54:52,690 even though they had no arms. In fact, they were doing this repeatedly. They 807 00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:57,690 would force the Rakshasas off their chariot by breaking it, force them into 808 00:54:57,690 --> 00:54:59,990 hand -to -hand duel and then finish them off. 809 00:55:00,530 --> 00:55:04,930 Ravan realized he had to do something different. Even he had stepped out but 810 00:55:04,930 --> 00:55:10,570 retreated. And as he considered his options, he realized that there was one 811 00:55:10,570 --> 00:55:15,450 person he wanted to call on and that was Kumbhakarna, his brother. 812 00:55:16,810 --> 00:55:18,390 If only he could wake him up. 813 00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:24,870 See, Kumbhakarna suffered from a medical condition, an endocrinological 814 00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:29,790 disorder, because of which he would sleep for many days at a time. 815 00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:34,950 And when he woke up, he was very hungry. And right now he was sleeping. 816 00:55:35,730 --> 00:55:38,050 So Ravan's challenge was to wake him up. 817 00:55:39,090 --> 00:55:42,490 He sent some people to do this job. 818 00:55:42,970 --> 00:55:47,350 And Valmiki's description of how they woke him up is very interesting. 819 00:55:48,610 --> 00:55:51,350 So they went into a subterranean palace. 820 00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:54,750 And as they went in, Kumbhakarna was sleeping. 821 00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:59,610 And his breath, as he exhaled, almost blew them away. 822 00:56:00,190 --> 00:56:02,810 So he is described here as a giant. 823 00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:08,670 They called out his name. They beat drums to try and wake him up. Blasted 824 00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:10,830 conches. But none of it worked. 825 00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:13,770 Then they started pulling his hair. 826 00:56:14,510 --> 00:56:16,050 They hit him with maces. 827 00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:18,370 Even that did not wake him up. 828 00:56:19,830 --> 00:56:25,910 Finally, the description is they got thousands of elephants to run up and 829 00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:31,090 his body to finally wake him up. Clearly, this is an exaggeration. 830 00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:39,070 He stretched himself, yawned, got up and he was famished. 831 00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:41,050 They had brought 832 00:56:43,130 --> 00:56:45,450 mounds of meat for him to eat. 833 00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:47,350 Pig, buffalo, deer. 834 00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:49,870 Did he mention? 835 00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:52,250 Yes. Pig, buffalo and deer meat. 836 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:53,470 Yes. 837 00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:57,570 And not just that, he also had a lot of wine to go with that as well as big jars 838 00:56:57,570 --> 00:56:58,570 of blood. 839 00:56:59,590 --> 00:57:04,610 That was his food. And refreshed, he went to meet Ravan. 840 00:57:06,110 --> 00:57:08,670 Ravan told him what was going on in the battlefield. 841 00:57:09,370 --> 00:57:10,690 And Kumbhakarna laughed. 842 00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:15,540 And he said, we had warned you earlier, but you didn't listen to us. 843 00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:19,560 Now you are suffering the results of your own actions. 844 00:57:20,180 --> 00:57:22,140 So there was some goodness in Kumbhakarna. 845 00:57:22,580 --> 00:57:27,900 Yes, interestingly. And Kumbhakarna also gave him a lecture on why it's 846 00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:32,060 important to have a good balance between righteousness, wealth creation and 847 00:57:32,060 --> 00:57:33,060 enjoying pleasures. 848 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,240 But Ravan told him, don't give me a lecture like a teacher. I need your help 849 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,240 right now. 850 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:44,690 Kumbhakarna said, don't worry, I'll take care of this for you. 851 00:57:46,050 --> 00:57:51,670 Earlier as well, remember in the court, when in the showdown with Vibhishan, 852 00:57:51,830 --> 00:57:53,310 Kumbhakarna had also been there. 853 00:57:54,690 --> 00:58:00,870 And even then, he did not agree with what Ravan had done. But he said, even 854 00:58:00,870 --> 00:58:01,848 I will support you. 855 00:58:01,850 --> 00:58:04,030 Now Kumbhakarna stepped out into battle. 856 00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:07,450 Once again, Valmiki talks of him as a giant. 857 00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:08,910 And how big? 858 00:58:10,190 --> 00:58:16,450 eyes were the size of chariot wheels and his height was equal to 600 bows 859 00:58:16,450 --> 00:58:21,910 placed next to each other. Once again, it is clearly an exaggeration. 600 bows, 860 00:58:22,090 --> 00:58:27,170 you know, five feet for one. If you calculate, it's about 3000 feet or more. 861 00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:28,290 That's a kilometer. 862 00:58:29,770 --> 00:58:35,950 Some people wonder why we shouldn't take everything that is written in the 863 00:58:35,950 --> 00:58:38,010 Valmiki Ramayana exactly as it is. 864 00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:44,810 Well, Clearly, these are exaggerations. A person who is a kilometer tall is not 865 00:58:44,810 --> 00:58:49,270 possible. Even if someone were very tall, how would he fit into Ravan's 866 00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:51,370 How would Ravan talk to him and so on? 867 00:58:52,890 --> 00:58:57,910 Anyway, Kumbhakarna stepped into the battlefield and he started killing the 868 00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:59,030 Vanaras by the hundreds. 869 00:59:00,190 --> 00:59:06,750 His weapons of choice were not bows and arrows. He used clubs, maces, things he 870 00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:08,210 could hit with, even his fist. 871 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:15,200 And because he was so large, Valmiki says, with just one hit of his club, he 872 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,640 would kill a hundred Vanaras. 873 00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:21,780 Or he would scoop them up with his hand, 10 and 20 at a time and eat them. 874 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,560 In short, Kumbhakarna was causing great damage among the Vanaras, great 875 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,560 casualties. 876 00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:33,640 And Shri Ram stepped up to fight with him. 877 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,620 He fired off the Y of Yastra and cut off his right hand. 878 00:59:39,950 --> 00:59:41,890 Kumbhakarna flew into a wild rage. 879 00:59:42,090 --> 00:59:46,830 He took a tree and started charging towards Ram. With his left hand, he 880 00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:47,830 a tree. 881 00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:51,410 But Ram fired another arrow and cut off his left hand too. 882 00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:55,970 And then Ram fired arrows at his legs to immobilize him. 883 00:59:56,590 --> 01:00:00,870 And then with one final arrow, Ram cut off his head. 884 01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:06,550 The giant's lifeless body crashed to the ground. And that was the end of 885 01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:07,550 Kumbhakarna. 886 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,820 When Ravan heard about this, he was heartbroken. 887 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,680 He said, with my brother gone, I don't want to live. 888 01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:22,760 This kingdom has no meaning for me. What will I do with Sita? 889 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,440 He was crying bitterly. 890 01:00:27,220 --> 01:00:32,860 Indrajit could not see his father like this and he stepped out into battle. 891 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,900 Indrajit, remember, is now the only person among the Rakshas leaders who has 892 01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,120 scored a win in this battle. On the first day, he had injured Ram and 893 01:00:40,260 --> 01:00:43,260 thought his job was done and had come back into the city. 894 01:00:44,540 --> 01:00:46,320 Indrajit came out once again. 895 01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:50,140 Before I let you continue, another tiny question. 896 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,940 Because we spoke about Vibhishan, Kumbhakaran and Ravan, three brothers. 897 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,980 Is anything said about their parents? 898 01:00:58,020 --> 01:01:02,380 Ravan's father was Vishrawamuni and his mother was Kaikasi. 899 01:01:02,990 --> 01:01:04,290 His mother was a Raksasi. 900 01:01:04,850 --> 01:01:06,510 His father was not a Raksas. 901 01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:14,570 In fact, interestingly, Ravan's father was a Brahmin, a Muni, but he himself 902 01:01:14,570 --> 01:01:17,890 a Kshatriya, a ruler. We saw this earlier as well, right? 903 01:01:20,250 --> 01:01:22,470 Vishwamitra was the son of a ruler. 904 01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:25,770 He used to be a king, but he became a Brahmarshi. 905 01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:30,210 Do you think that the other two brothers have also descended from the same pair 906 01:01:30,210 --> 01:01:31,209 of parents? 907 01:01:31,210 --> 01:01:32,210 Yes. 908 01:01:32,620 --> 01:01:34,380 I think so. Okay, gotcha. 909 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,060 Before I let you move forward, bit of a war -oriented question. 910 01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:46,660 Because in my eyes, yes, I knew all the Indrajit stories, but I always viewed 911 01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:50,580 Kumbhakarna as the second most powerful warrior from the side of the Rakshasas. 912 01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:54,100 Would you say that it's actually Indrajit? 913 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,120 No, these are the three top warriors. 914 01:01:57,380 --> 01:02:00,160 Ravan himself, Indrajit and Kumbhakarna. Okay. 915 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,800 And what's sad about Indrajit is that he's stealth oriented and has very 916 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:10,080 advanced weaponry. Yes. Kumbhakarna had immense physical power and Indrajit had 917 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,140 all the smart weapons. 918 01:02:11,780 --> 01:02:14,360 Got it. Technically the most sound. Yes. 919 01:02:14,980 --> 01:02:19,820 Just a little tiny historical context. If you study all medieval battles of 920 01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:24,080 human history, like from the last 1000 years, and I'm pretty sure even before 921 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:29,360 that, the side that wins is always the one that's technically more advanced. 922 01:02:29,790 --> 01:02:33,090 And that's the actual edge that one has in warfare. 923 01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:35,170 And I've had lots of soldiers on the show. 924 01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:39,530 They've also confirmed this theory. That it's always the side with the cannons, 925 01:02:39,810 --> 01:02:43,510 the side with the guns, the side with the drones that ends up winning. 926 01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:47,630 So this is a huge advantage that the Rakshasas had. 927 01:02:47,890 --> 01:02:49,130 And they let it down. 928 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:54,510 They let it go, the advantage. Because they could fire from a distance and they 929 01:02:54,510 --> 01:02:56,590 didn't engage the Vanaras early enough. 930 01:02:56,910 --> 01:03:00,410 And now this was a hand -to -hand combat or person -to -person combat. 931 01:03:00,710 --> 01:03:02,250 And here the Vanaras were winning. 932 01:03:03,090 --> 01:03:04,590 Now I'll let you go on. 933 01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:12,310 So Kumbhakarna was dead and Ravan was heartbroken. Indrajit couldn't see him 934 01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:14,210 like this. He came out to fight. 935 01:03:14,910 --> 01:03:18,470 And once again, he started killing Vanaras by the hundreds. 936 01:03:18,750 --> 01:03:20,810 They didn't even know where he was firing from. 937 01:03:22,210 --> 01:03:25,650 Some of the weapons that he fired would explode in the air. 938 01:03:26,060 --> 01:03:29,860 And then they would release sharp darts onto the Vanaras. 939 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,100 Valmiki says some of the Vanaras tried to look up to see where the attack was 940 01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,180 coming from. And they were struck in their eyes. 941 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,140 Indrajit then turned his attention to Ram and Lakshman. 942 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:49,800 He used the Brahmastra and then showered so many arrows on them that 943 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,080 they fell down unconscious. 944 01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:54,660 And already a lot of the other Vanar leaders 945 01:03:55,450 --> 01:03:57,630 were down, Sugriv, Angad. 946 01:03:59,230 --> 01:04:04,330 Once again, Indrajit thought that his job was done and he went back into the 947 01:04:04,330 --> 01:04:05,330 city. 948 01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:11,270 Vibhishan and Hanuman were the only senior leaders who were relatively 949 01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:15,450 all this. Everyone else was terribly injured and they were going around 950 01:04:15,450 --> 01:04:17,090 to the injured soldiers. 951 01:04:17,570 --> 01:04:22,890 When Vibhishan came across Jambavan, Jambavan had lost a lot of blood. 952 01:04:23,450 --> 01:04:26,730 With great difficulty, he told Vivishan to quickly call Hanuman. 953 01:04:27,470 --> 01:04:32,330 And when Hanuman came, Vivishan told him to get the Sanjeevani herb. 954 01:04:33,210 --> 01:04:39,230 So this is a fairly popular scene when Hanuman gets the herb to save 955 01:04:39,230 --> 01:04:40,570 the army. 956 01:04:40,830 --> 01:04:42,890 Let's watch this in a short video. 957 01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:45,030 Hanuman came up to him. 958 01:04:45,870 --> 01:04:51,410 Jambavan said, the fate of our army is in your hands now. 959 01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:55,270 You must quickly get four medicinal herbs. 960 01:04:56,050 --> 01:05:00,810 Sanjeevani, Vishalyakarni, Suvarnakarni and Sandhani. 961 01:05:01,730 --> 01:05:03,630 Go to the Himalayas. 962 01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:06,030 Himavantam Gantumarhasi. 963 01:05:07,030 --> 01:05:12,470 Between Mount Kailash and Mount Rishabh, you will see another peak shining 964 01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:13,470 brightly. 965 01:05:13,770 --> 01:05:15,990 Many herbs grow on this mountain. 966 01:05:16,690 --> 01:05:19,230 There you will find the ones we need. 967 01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:23,240 O greatest of varnaras, Now go. 968 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,500 Only you can do this. 969 01:05:27,460 --> 01:05:33,380 So this is the famous story of Hanuman flying to the Himalayas and bringing 970 01:05:33,380 --> 01:05:34,279 a mountain. 971 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,120 Did that really happen? 972 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,560 Let us first see how Valmiki has described it. 973 01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:46,860 And then we will consider whether the descriptions can be taken literally or 974 01:05:46,860 --> 01:05:47,860 not. 975 01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:49,860 Valmiki says, 976 01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:54,120 Hanuman grew his body to an enormous size. 977 01:05:54,980 --> 01:05:59,260 Even the mountain he was standing on got pressed into the earth. 978 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:06,340 And then he took a giant leap into the sky and went off towards the Himalayas. 979 01:06:06,980 --> 01:06:11,540 He slipped past mountains, lakes, rivers and cities. 980 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,920 And soon he reached the mountain where the herbs were growing. 981 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,140 But he could not find the ones he was looking for. 982 01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:26,880 The plants realized that someone was looking for them and made themselves 983 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,880 invisible. 984 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:35,720 And so 985 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:42,140 Hanuman picked up the entire mountain peak with the trees and even the animals 986 01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:44,360 and brought it all back to Lanka. 987 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,140 Lakshman and the injured Vanaras were administered the medicine. 988 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,940 Soon they all recovered. 989 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,900 Hanuman then quickly went and put the mountain back in its place in the 990 01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:00,900 Himalayas. 991 01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:10,640 Did Hanuman do this using any yogic powers? 992 01:07:12,750 --> 01:07:18,570 Valmiki has not mentioned anything about Hanuman using yogic powers or siddhis. 993 01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:26,330 And also consider this, the distance from Lanka to the Himalayas is about 994 01:07:26,330 --> 01:07:27,430 kilometers. 995 01:07:28,790 --> 01:07:34,290 Hanuman is said to have covered this distance four times for two up and down 996 01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:36,250 trips in just a few hours. 997 01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:41,330 His flying speed would have to be many hundreds of kilometers per hour. 998 01:07:42,510 --> 01:07:47,570 Even if Hanuman had some means of making the journey himself, the mountain would 999 01:07:47,570 --> 01:07:49,730 not remain intact at such speeds. 1000 01:07:50,650 --> 01:07:54,390 Trees get uprooted in hurricanes at much lower wind speeds. 1001 01:07:55,190 --> 01:08:00,350 By the time Hanuman could have brought the mountain to Lanka, not a single tree 1002 01:08:00,350 --> 01:08:01,350 would have survived. 1003 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:08,270 Most likely, these plants were native to the Himalayan region, but the medicines 1004 01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:10,170 were also available nearby. 1005 01:08:11,350 --> 01:08:16,359 Remember, On the first night of the war, the Garud had also brought some such 1006 01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:17,359 herbs. 1007 01:08:17,779 --> 01:08:23,240 And when Sugriv had assembled his army, we had heard that the Vanar troops from 1008 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,600 the Himalayas had brought some medicinal herbs with them. 1009 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:33,380 The idea of getting a mountain of herbs could be a way of saying that Hanuman 1010 01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:36,080 got a very large quantity of these medicines. 1011 01:08:41,390 --> 01:08:43,090 Well, the medicines had done the job. 1012 01:08:43,670 --> 01:08:48,090 Ram, Lakshman and the other injured soldiers were feeling much better. 1013 01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:52,109 And then Sugriv ordered a counter -attack. 1014 01:08:52,370 --> 01:08:56,569 See, like I said before, this was a relentless war, non -stop. 1015 01:08:56,970 --> 01:08:59,710 This was late at night. They had just recovered. 1016 01:09:00,130 --> 01:09:04,609 But Sugriv told the Vanaras to charge into the city and set the buildings on 1017 01:09:04,609 --> 01:09:05,609 fire. 1018 01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:11,620 Earlier as well, we had seen how in the Sundarkand, Hanuman had set fire to some 1019 01:09:11,620 --> 01:09:12,620 buildings in Lanka. 1020 01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:14,760 At that time, the objective was different. 1021 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,120 He wanted to strike fear in the hearts of the enemy. 1022 01:09:18,340 --> 01:09:25,020 And so he had put the fire at the residences of the senior most 1023 01:09:25,020 --> 01:09:26,020 rakshasas leaders. 1024 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:32,140 But this time, Sugriva's objective was to reduce Ravan's ability to fight the 1025 01:09:32,140 --> 01:09:36,859 war. And so they targeted the storehouses which kept all the tools of 1026 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,920 Armour, body armour. 1027 01:09:39,390 --> 01:09:41,590 Bows and arrows, bow strings and so on. 1028 01:09:42,790 --> 01:09:47,350 The Rakshasas were caught by surprise because they were thinking that the 1029 01:09:47,350 --> 01:09:49,710 soldiers are lying injured and the leaders are dead. 1030 01:09:50,090 --> 01:09:53,430 The Vanar troops stormed into the city, set the buildings on fire. 1031 01:09:53,729 --> 01:09:55,050 There was chaos in the street. 1032 01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:58,190 Men and women running around, even elephants and horses. 1033 01:09:59,050 --> 01:10:03,650 And then just as quickly as they had come, the Vanar troops came back, 1034 01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:07,310 to their positions outside the city. When Ravan heard about this, he was 1035 01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:11,480 And he once again turned to Indrajit and said, do something. 1036 01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:14,040 Kill those two brothers, Ram and Lakshman. 1037 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:17,940 Indrajit came out once again. 1038 01:10:19,740 --> 01:10:26,600 This time when he came out, he put something on fire which created a lot of 1039 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,040 smoke. So the entire battlefield was covered by a thick fog. 1040 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,620 And through this fog, he started firing off his arrows. 1041 01:10:34,140 --> 01:10:38,360 And he was changing his location all the time. So nobody could see where he 1042 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,360 would fire from. 1043 01:10:39,940 --> 01:10:42,860 And he was killing hundreds of Vanaras like this. 1044 01:10:44,380 --> 01:10:47,200 And then suddenly he retreated back into the city. 1045 01:10:48,740 --> 01:10:52,040 And he came out of another gate, this time the western gate of the city. 1046 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:58,440 And he had with him on the chariot someone that looked like Sita, a lady 1047 01:10:58,440 --> 01:10:59,440 looked like Sita. 1048 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,640 And after he came out, 1049 01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:05,340 He grabbed that lady by the hair and started hitting her. 1050 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,620 She cried, Ram! 1051 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,880 Ram! 1052 01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:15,520 Hanuman saw this from a distance and he screamed at him, Stop that! 1053 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:22,460 But Indrajit said, You may think that killing a woman is not correct, but for 1054 01:11:22,460 --> 01:11:25,300 me, whatever harms the enemy must be done. 1055 01:11:25,900 --> 01:11:30,520 And he took his sword and struck the woman who collapsed to the floor of the 1056 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:31,520 chariot. 1057 01:11:33,339 --> 01:11:36,640 Indrajit shouted out, look, I have killed Sita. 1058 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,800 And then he went into the city. 1059 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,880 Hanuman rushed to report this to Ram. 1060 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:46,560 Vibhishan was also there. 1061 01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:49,720 And he said, this is a trick. 1062 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,320 I know Ravan very well. 1063 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,120 I know Indrajit too. 1064 01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:01,240 They are trying to keep us preoccupied, throw us off our ground. 1065 01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:03,700 What could it be? 1066 01:12:04,260 --> 01:12:06,800 And suddenly Vibhishan realized what it was. 1067 01:12:07,620 --> 01:12:12,700 He said Indrajit must have gone to the shrine of Nikumbila to do a fire ritual. 1068 01:12:13,420 --> 01:12:17,580 And if he finishes the ritual, he will become invincible. 1069 01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:19,060 We must stop him. 1070 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:25,080 So Lakshman, Vibhishan, Hanuman and some troops rushed to the shrine of 1071 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,760 Nikumbila and they get there just in time. 1072 01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:30,780 For Indrajit comes out. 1073 01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:32,790 without completing what he had started. 1074 01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:37,130 And now for the first time, Indrajit is out in the open. 1075 01:12:38,230 --> 01:12:41,390 And Lakshman engages him in a direct battle. 1076 01:12:42,730 --> 01:12:44,950 Both were extremely skilled warriors. 1077 01:12:45,310 --> 01:12:47,190 They had all the astras and shastras. 1078 01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:52,250 They neutralized a lot of the astras that the other fired in mid -air. 1079 01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:58,470 But still, many of the arrows found their mark and both were grievously 1080 01:12:58,830 --> 01:13:02,790 Valmiki says blood was flowing down their bodies like waterfalls. 1081 01:13:06,750 --> 01:13:10,990 At one point, Indrajit lost his charioteer. 1082 01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:16,150 What is interesting, Valmiki says that he took control of the reins himself and 1083 01:13:16,150 --> 01:13:20,910 alternated between guiding the horses and firing off bows. So he would guide 1084 01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:25,090 horses, leave the reins, fire an arrow and go back to guiding the horses. 1085 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,060 So he was a very skilled warrior, but ultimately he was forced off his chariot 1086 01:13:30,060 --> 01:13:31,060 as well. 1087 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:38,360 And then Lakshman loaded the Aindrastra, Aindrastra means Indrajastra, onto his 1088 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:39,360 bow. 1089 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:45,060 He pulled the bowstring all the way to his ears, aimed the arrow at Indrajit's 1090 01:13:45,060 --> 01:13:46,780 neck and released it. 1091 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,680 And in a flash, it was all over. 1092 01:13:50,980 --> 01:13:52,100 Indrajit was no more. 1093 01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:54,900 Interestingly, 1094 01:13:55,490 --> 01:14:00,190 Indrajit means he who had defeated Indra, Lord Indra. 1095 01:14:00,770 --> 01:14:07,250 He was killed by Indrajastra, Indrastra. When Ravan heard that his son was no 1096 01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:10,050 more, he fainted. 1097 01:14:10,650 --> 01:14:15,630 And when he regained consciousness, he was beside himself with grief. He cried 1098 01:14:15,630 --> 01:14:16,630 bitterly. 1099 01:14:17,730 --> 01:14:23,630 And Ravan was not the only one who was grieving. By now, Valmiki says that 1100 01:14:23,630 --> 01:14:25,650 family, In Lanka had lost someone. 1101 01:14:26,610 --> 01:14:28,350 Brothers, sons, husbands. 1102 01:14:30,770 --> 01:14:35,250 And Valmiki devotes an entire chapter, Sarga, to the lament of the Rakshasis. 1103 01:14:35,930 --> 01:14:38,710 They are crying and lamenting the lost ones. 1104 01:14:40,050 --> 01:14:44,410 It's interesting who they blame for all this and who they do not blame. 1105 01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:48,330 Surprisingly, they have nothing to say about Ram. 1106 01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:52,790 But the two people that they are blaming are Shurpanakha and Ravan. 1107 01:14:53,770 --> 01:14:57,790 The Rakshatis themselves are saying what was Shurpan Khat thinking when she 1108 01:14:57,790 --> 01:14:58,790 lusted for Ram. 1109 01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:01,290 Clearly she was wrong. 1110 01:15:01,630 --> 01:15:06,050 And as for Ravan, they said he is evil minded and arrogant. 1111 01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:08,810 If only he had listened to Vibhishan. 1112 01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:11,490 Now there was no one left to turn to. 1113 01:15:12,610 --> 01:15:14,830 Ravan knew he had to come out to fight. 1114 01:15:15,330 --> 01:15:20,110 He was down. He had clearly lost many of the battles in this. 1115 01:15:20,330 --> 01:15:21,890 But he was not done yet. 1116 01:15:23,180 --> 01:15:28,900 He would throw himself and whatever he had into one final battle. He asked the 1117 01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:33,360 Rakshasas to round up everyone house to house, who could fight. 1118 01:15:33,980 --> 01:15:37,680 And then Ravan came out for one final battle. 1119 01:15:38,980 --> 01:15:45,160 Ravan first caused great destruction among the Vana troops and then Ram 1120 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,160 Ravan. 1121 01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:52,240 Once again, like Indrajit and Lakshman, both were very capable, both 1122 01:15:53,850 --> 01:15:58,110 neutralized or brought down the astras in mid -air, but also both were struck, 1123 01:15:58,270 --> 01:15:59,270 were injured. 1124 01:16:00,870 --> 01:16:04,950 At one point in time, Ravan also struck Lakshman with a spear. 1125 01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:11,390 And it is here that Hanuman once again got the Sanjeevani herb only for 1126 01:16:11,390 --> 01:16:14,570 Lakshman. Right? So the Sanjeevani herb is required three times. 1127 01:16:15,930 --> 01:16:19,130 On the first day when Ravan and Lakshman were injured, they talked about 1128 01:16:19,130 --> 01:16:22,870 Sanjeevani, but then the Garud came. Then the second time we saw in the 1129 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,700 When most of the leaders and many troops were injured, that's when Hanuman got 1130 01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:29,160 the Sanjeevani and now. 1131 01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:35,880 During this time, Ravan had gone back because he had lost his horses. So he 1132 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,140 back to get a fresh chariot. 1133 01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:40,560 And when Ravan came back into the battlefield, 1134 01:16:41,380 --> 01:16:43,180 Ram and Ravan engaged once again. 1135 01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:46,480 Both fought for a long time, for hours. 1136 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,300 And once again, suddenly Ravan's charioteer turned. 1137 01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:54,140 The chariot back into the city. 1138 01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:58,100 Ravan lashed out at him. He said, you fool, why did you do that? 1139 01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:03,980 The charioteer said, my lord, the horses are tired and so are you. 1140 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,780 I think we should take some rest. 1141 01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:13,040 While Ram was waiting for Ravan to come back, he thought of Agastya Muni. 1142 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:18,200 The great Muni had taught him the Aditya Hridaya Stotra. 1143 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,940 A prayer that helps harness one's energy in battle. 1144 01:17:24,620 --> 01:17:30,920 And Ram stood facing the sun, recited the prayer, and did achaman, the 1145 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,820 ceremonial sipping of water, three times. 1146 01:17:33,380 --> 01:17:35,520 Is the prayer mentioned in the... Yes. 1147 01:17:36,140 --> 01:17:39,400 It's like a mantra packed into... Into the narration. 1148 01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:42,320 Okay. Got it. All right. Let's watch the video. 1149 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,640 Ravan returned to the battle scene for the third time. 1150 01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:48,380 Once more. 1151 01:17:48,650 --> 01:17:52,690 A ferocious battle ensued between these two great warriors. 1152 01:17:53,610 --> 01:17:56,690 This was chariot warfare at its best. 1153 01:17:57,490 --> 01:18:04,370 At times, Ram and Ravan charged towards each other. 1154 01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:10,410 At other times, they tactically retreated only to attack from a 1155 01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:13,950 And they attacked each other relentlessly. 1156 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,580 It seemed like the sky was entirely covered by arrows flying across. 1157 01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:23,740 No one had seen a battle like this ever before. 1158 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:38,580 The raksha soldiers just stared at Ravana. 1159 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,600 The vanaras at Rama. 1160 01:18:41,220 --> 01:18:42,680 They stood frozen. 1161 01:18:43,180 --> 01:18:44,840 like characters in a painting. 1162 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,640 The battle raged on and on. 1163 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:55,240 Ram wondered why the weapons that had worked so well against Khar, Dushan and 1164 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,040 Kaband were unable to finish off Ravan. 1165 01:18:59,480 --> 01:19:04,780 Swalmiki says poetically that when Ram cut off Ravan's head with a sharp arrow, 1166 01:19:04,940 --> 01:19:07,160 a new head appeared in its place. 1167 01:19:07,420 --> 01:19:09,820 And this happened a hundred times. 1168 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,120 Ram realized that he had to try something different. 1169 01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:22,200 And then he picked up a special weapon that Agastya Muni had given him. 1170 01:19:23,220 --> 01:19:29,260 This arrow, made by Lord Brahma himself, was more like a missile launched from a 1171 01:19:29,260 --> 01:19:30,260 bow. 1172 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,920 Valmiki has described it as follows. 1173 01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:38,500 It was huge in size and weight, but also hollow in the middle. 1174 01:19:42,010 --> 01:19:48,110 A fire burned inside and it emitted smoke as it went hissing through the 1175 01:19:48,750 --> 01:19:51,730 It landed on its target like a thunderbolt. 1176 01:19:52,210 --> 01:19:56,390 It could blast right through doors and walls, man and beast. 1177 01:19:57,470 --> 01:20:02,330 Ram loaded the great weapon on his bow as per the proper Vedic procedures. 1178 01:20:02,990 --> 01:20:07,970 He pulled the bowstring all the way back and fired it off at Ravan. 1179 01:20:08,670 --> 01:20:11,030 The arrow hit Ravan on the chest. 1180 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:12,900 and went right through him. 1181 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:30,220 Even as Ravan's bow and arrow slipped from his hand, his life breath also 1182 01:20:30,220 --> 01:20:31,340 slipped out of him. 1183 01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:37,120 The king of Rakshasas was dead even before he hit the ground. 1184 01:20:45,129 --> 01:20:47,470 That is how it happened. 1185 01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:58,910 Brahmastra? The Brahmastra comes many times in the Ramayana. Even earlier in 1186 01:20:58,910 --> 01:21:03,330 Sundarkand, Indrajit had used the Brahmastra to ensnare Hanuman. 1187 01:21:03,570 --> 01:21:08,390 Then Indrajit had used the Brahmastra later on as well. 1188 01:21:09,599 --> 01:21:15,340 Ram and Lakshman. So the Brahmastra is not only one astra. There are different 1189 01:21:15,340 --> 01:21:18,000 types of Brahmastra mentioned here. 1190 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:19,880 Wow. 1191 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:25,400 What is said about his death? Because there was a line where you went that 1192 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,780 left him before he hit the ground. Yeah. That's the last mention of him and his 1193 01:21:29,780 --> 01:21:30,820 body and his soul. 1194 01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:34,380 Yes. So he was dead in an instant. 1195 01:21:34,940 --> 01:21:40,320 There is a popular story in some retellings about Ravan lying on his 1196 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,360 and Lakshman going to meet him before he dies. That is not mentioned in the 1197 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,840 Valmiki Ramayan. Does Ramji have a dialogue about Ravan at all to anyone? 1198 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:56,780 Yes. So right after this, once Ravan is dead, Mandodari and the other wives 1199 01:21:56,780 --> 01:22:00,860 come out. I'll tell you what happens because he mentioned something to 1200 01:22:00,860 --> 01:22:03,220 which is important about Ravan. 1201 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:09,620 So the ladies come out and they are weeping next to Ravan's body. 1202 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,580 See, one side has won the battle, the war. 1203 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,980 How do we typically imagine the winning side will treat the losing side? 1204 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,680 Especially the women, you know, throughout history. 1205 01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:26,840 And now look at Ram's exemplary behavior. 1206 01:22:27,140 --> 01:22:32,780 He tells Vibhishan, please console the women and do the last rites for Ravan. 1207 01:22:34,819 --> 01:22:39,440 So, the right treatment for the fallen soldier as well as consoling the women. 1208 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,120 Exemplary behavior. 1209 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,880 Even Vibhishan was not ready for this. 1210 01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:52,440 He was conflicted. On one hand, he had lost his brother and he was sad. At the 1211 01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:55,760 same time, he was not ready to forgive Ravan for what he had done. 1212 01:22:57,540 --> 01:23:03,460 But Ram tells Vibhishan that animosity should not last after death. 1213 01:23:06,460 --> 01:23:11,220 And he tells Vibhishan to your question now, what does he tell about Ravan? He 1214 01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:12,560 said, Ravan was a great warrior. 1215 01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:16,120 He deserves respect from you and me. 1216 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,900 He died fighting in the battlefield like a true Kshatriya. 1217 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,120 So please go ahead and do his last rites. 1218 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,780 And then Vibhishan cremated Ravan's body, did Jalanjali. 1219 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:37,300 And then, Ram told Lakshman to coronate Vibhishan as the next king of Lanka. 1220 01:23:38,140 --> 01:23:41,400 And then he told Vibhishan to go and call Sita. 1221 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,560 See, Sita was inside the city in the Ashok one, remember. 1222 01:23:45,820 --> 01:23:49,980 And Ram could not enter any city during the period of his exile, one was. 1223 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,860 So he asked Vibhishan to call her. 1224 01:23:54,220 --> 01:23:59,700 But he also said, make sure she has taken her bath and put on her jewellery. 1225 01:24:01,260 --> 01:24:05,680 That was a strange request and Sita thought so too. 1226 01:24:06,060 --> 01:24:08,760 She said, I want to meet Ram. The bath can wait. 1227 01:24:09,980 --> 01:24:16,980 But Vibhishan advised that they should follow what Ram had said. And so Sita 1228 01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:23,960 ready and Vibhishan brought Sita to the battlefield in a palanquin and then told 1229 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,180 Ram, Sita is here. 1230 01:24:27,340 --> 01:24:28,420 Ram was thoughtful. 1231 01:24:29,050 --> 01:24:35,250 He looked down for a moment and then told Vibhishan, please ask Sita to get 1232 01:24:35,250 --> 01:24:37,010 the Palkhi and walk up to me. 1233 01:24:37,610 --> 01:24:42,510 Again, Vibhishan couldn't understand why Ram was asking for this, but he went 1234 01:24:42,510 --> 01:24:45,190 and told Sita to come towards Ram. 1235 01:24:46,610 --> 01:24:50,850 At that time, the Vanaras and Rakshasas had begun to gather. 1236 01:24:51,730 --> 01:24:56,650 It was some sort of a spectacle and Vibhishan's soldiers were pushing them 1237 01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,800 Ram told the soldiers not to put them back. Let them stay. 1238 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,700 And so when Sita got off the Palkhi, she was embarrassed. 1239 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,320 Lajjaya. Everyone was looking at her. 1240 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,780 She walked towards Ram. 1241 01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:14,400 And then when she looked up, their eyes met. 1242 01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:20,060 After months of longing, finally they had seen each other. 1243 01:25:20,780 --> 01:25:24,500 And Maharshi Valmiki says, their faces lit up with joy. 1244 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:32,500 But then Ram's expression changed and he said to her, 1245 01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:35,740 Oh lady, may you be well. 1246 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,120 You should know that I did not fight the war for your sake. 1247 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,420 By kidnapping you, Ravan had insulted me and I had to take revenge. 1248 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,920 I fought this war for the glory of the Ikshwaku dynasty. 1249 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,820 But now there is a doubt about your character. 1250 01:25:59,060 --> 01:26:01,720 And I can't even bear to look at you. 1251 01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:06,740 Surely Ravan would have been attracted to someone as beautiful as you. 1252 01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:12,860 And what sort of a man would take back a woman who has spent some time in 1253 01:26:12,860 --> 01:26:13,860 someone else's house? 1254 01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:18,100 You are free to go and live with whoever you wish to. 1255 01:26:18,900 --> 01:26:24,740 You can live with Lakshman, Bharat, Shatrughna or even Sugriv. 1256 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,280 or Vibhishan. 1257 01:26:26,820 --> 01:26:28,980 It means nothing to me. 1258 01:26:29,860 --> 01:26:32,960 Sita could not believe what she was hearing. 1259 01:26:33,660 --> 01:26:38,280 In fact, we have spoken over four sessions, many hours. 1260 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:44,520 This is completely out of character, right, based on what we have heard about 1261 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,520 Sri Ram. 1262 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:51,280 If we are reading the Ramayana, when we come to this part, you may flip the 1263 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,940 pages back and forth to see whether you are reading things correctly. 1264 01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:55,410 This is so odd. 1265 01:26:56,410 --> 01:27:00,870 We have seen how Ram was pained by Sita's loss. 1266 01:27:02,170 --> 01:27:07,610 Again and again, we heard him say, I cannot live for a moment without Sita. 1267 01:27:09,210 --> 01:27:15,310 My life is meaningless without Sita. We heard this 1268 01:27:15,310 --> 01:27:20,970 at Panchavati when she was kidnapped. Afterwards in Pampa, Ram talked 1269 01:27:20,970 --> 01:27:23,710 about his longing for Sita. 1270 01:27:25,290 --> 01:27:30,590 And Ram had also said, if I can be with Sita, I will not wish for anything else 1271 01:27:30,590 --> 01:27:31,309 in the world. 1272 01:27:31,310 --> 01:27:32,490 Not even Ayodhya. 1273 01:27:36,770 --> 01:27:38,850 Sita cried. 1274 01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:42,270 She could not understand why Ram was saying this. 1275 01:27:43,850 --> 01:27:48,490 And she said, what you say is totally unfair, inappropriate. 1276 01:27:49,530 --> 01:27:51,830 How come you are thinking like an ordinary person? 1277 01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:54,810 I did not come here by choice. 1278 01:27:55,450 --> 01:27:56,910 Ravan forcibly brought me. 1279 01:27:57,570 --> 01:27:59,290 Now what is my fault in all this? 1280 01:28:00,610 --> 01:28:03,790 And if that's what you felt, you should have told me so earlier. 1281 01:28:04,090 --> 01:28:07,110 I would have killed myself when Hanuman came to meet me. 1282 01:28:08,370 --> 01:28:11,530 And then all this effort would have been saved. 1283 01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:16,510 You put your life at risk unnecessarily. So many of your friends' lives at risk. 1284 01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:18,650 So many people got killed. It was unnecessary. 1285 01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:26,680 And if after all these years, If you still do not understand me, then I might 1286 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:33,320 well be dead. She looked to Lakshman and said, Lakshman, I cannot live with this 1287 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,280 baseless controversy about my character. 1288 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,940 Please light a fire and I will walk into it. 1289 01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:46,680 Note, many months back, Sita had said some harsh and unfair words to Lakshman 1290 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,820 Panchavati before she got abducted. 1291 01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:55,970 And now Ram had said, harsh and unfair words to Sita and Sita was looking for 1292 01:28:55,970 --> 01:29:00,070 help towards Lakshman. Lakshman could also not understand why Ram was doing 1293 01:29:00,070 --> 01:29:01,070 this. 1294 01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:05,570 He knew how Ram felt about Sita and how could he say such things. 1295 01:29:06,050 --> 01:29:10,090 He looked at Ram angrily and then Maharshi Valmiki says, 1296 01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:17,150 Ram made a 1297 01:29:17,150 --> 01:29:20,770 gesture to Lakshman and then Lakshman understood. 1298 01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:22,640 what was in his mind. 1299 01:29:23,740 --> 01:29:25,500 Aakara Suchitam, a gesture. 1300 01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:27,660 And Lakshman lit a fire. 1301 01:29:27,940 --> 01:29:31,180 So Ram had indicated to him, I know what I am doing. 1302 01:29:31,620 --> 01:29:33,900 Just go along. It was all an act. 1303 01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:35,460 Those harsh words. 1304 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:38,320 Lakshman lit the fire. 1305 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,020 Sita walked up to it. 1306 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:48,480 And she said, If I am not at fault in any way, if my character is spotless, 1307 01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:50,560 may the fire protect me. 1308 01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:54,140 And she started going towards the fire. 1309 01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:56,440 There was a roar among the crowds. 1310 01:29:58,540 --> 01:30:02,840 At this point, Maharshi Valmiki says, Sita jumped into the fire. 1311 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:09,240 The Devas, Rishis, Gandharvas, Indra, Brahma all came there. 1312 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,300 Agnidev brought Sita out of the fire. 1313 01:30:14,260 --> 01:30:20,320 And then they all spoke to Ram and said, Sita is not at fault in any way. 1314 01:30:21,940 --> 01:30:25,880 Ravan forcibly brought her, never again say such hurtful things to her. 1315 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:34,080 We have to understand that through the voices of the Devas and Rishis, Valmiki 1316 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:38,440 is telling us what the crowd spoke of, just as Sita was about to jump into the 1317 01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:39,440 fire. 1318 01:30:41,020 --> 01:30:46,840 And when they said, Sita is not at fault in any way, Ram said, I understand Sita 1319 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,480 very well. I know her very well. 1320 01:30:49,610 --> 01:30:51,670 And I can never leave her. 1321 01:30:52,250 --> 01:30:57,410 It is just not possible. 1322 01:30:58,230 --> 01:31:04,990 We are inseparable like the sun is inseparable from the sun's rays. 1323 01:31:05,210 --> 01:31:07,130 You cannot have one without the other. 1324 01:31:11,050 --> 01:31:12,710 Sita was not at fault. 1325 01:31:13,530 --> 01:31:17,690 But Ram knew that people would question and gossip about her. 1326 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:23,120 And he wanted to make sure that they recognized her as the queen and that 1327 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,340 had no question about her. 1328 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:30,920 Ram's hurtful words to Sita that we heard were all an act. 1329 01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:35,920 And this was a carefully crafted situation. If you saw right from the 1330 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,020 why did Sita have to put on her jewelry? 1331 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,820 Because Ram wanted to make sure that when she made her first appearance, 1332 01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:46,300 saw her as their soon to be queen. 1333 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,380 and not as a destitute woman. 1334 01:31:49,900 --> 01:31:53,880 Why did he tell the guards not to push back the crowds so that they could hear 1335 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,260 the hurtful words that he said? 1336 01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:01,100 And then Sita had to walk up to him and he said those hurtful words when the 1337 01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:04,200 people spoke up and said, Sita has done nothing wrong. 1338 01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:06,160 Sita is not to be blamed. 1339 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,960 And this is exactly the outcome that Shri Ram wanted. 1340 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:15,980 And with that, Shri Ram and Sita were united once again. 1341 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,640 this previous chapter is very important for modern day context and I was toying 1342 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:26,300 with the idea of even bringing this up or not but I feel every faith in the 1343 01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:31,480 world has its critics which often come from other faiths and of course every 1344 01:32:31,480 --> 01:32:37,300 faith in the world also has its set of secular people who just you know are 1345 01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:43,380 good energy towards other faiths when it comes to Sanatana Dharma the critics of 1346 01:32:43,380 --> 01:32:47,290 Sanatana Dharma sometimes from other faiths And very, very often from our own 1347 01:32:47,290 --> 01:32:52,590 faith. End up criticizing the Ramayana because of this part without talking 1348 01:32:52,590 --> 01:32:57,390 about what you spoke about post Sita Maaz. 1349 01:32:58,630 --> 01:33:02,950 Outburst. Yeah, outburst. And if you read things in isolation, of course, you 1350 01:33:02,950 --> 01:33:04,290 will get a completely different meaning. 1351 01:33:04,570 --> 01:33:10,210 Yeah, this is what my friend Manish calls loosely informed, highly 1352 01:33:11,670 --> 01:33:14,470 When people criticize the Ramayana in this manner. 1353 01:33:15,260 --> 01:33:16,640 But instead, hear the whole story. 1354 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,500 And also, this is kind of the danger with taking the Valmiki Ramayan and 1355 01:33:21,500 --> 01:33:23,340 creating your own spin on it. 1356 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:29,600 And here I'm criticizing all the individuals who added their own spin on 1357 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,360 the last 14 ,000 years. 1358 01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:37,160 Was there a need? See, there is a place for retellings. 1359 01:33:37,620 --> 01:33:39,440 And some of the retellings are... 1360 01:33:40,190 --> 01:33:43,330 Even the authors are saying that this is just a literary work. 1361 01:33:43,630 --> 01:33:48,230 And I think as long as the retellings are consistent with the spirit of 1362 01:33:48,230 --> 01:33:52,130 Ravan, we can enjoy them all. Like I said about the coiled tail. 1363 01:33:52,350 --> 01:33:53,890 Why not? A beautiful depiction. 1364 01:33:54,130 --> 01:33:55,130 We can enjoy that. 1365 01:33:55,450 --> 01:34:01,650 But where if you start reading character traits that are simply not there, like 1366 01:34:01,650 --> 01:34:06,390 Ravan being very nice to women, we just saw today that is absolutely far from 1367 01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:09,050 the truth. That is not a retelling. That is a twisting. 1368 01:34:09,530 --> 01:34:15,070 Yeah, I think it's almost become a bit of a Sanatani flex to show off 1369 01:34:15,070 --> 01:34:21,710 certain kind of elements of spin -off stories that, hey, did you know that in 1370 01:34:21,710 --> 01:34:24,910 some stories Ravana is Sita's dad? Like I've heard things like this. It's been 1371 01:34:24,910 --> 01:34:25,910 said on the show as well. 1372 01:34:26,270 --> 01:34:30,510 So that's so far from the Valmiki Ramayana. Yes, and that is why the 1373 01:34:30,510 --> 01:34:34,150 of the Valmiki Ramayana because that is the reference text. See, there are so 1374 01:34:34,150 --> 01:34:37,470 many versions and people are confused what exactly happened. 1375 01:34:39,070 --> 01:34:42,210 For that question, the reference text is the Valmiki Ramayana. 1376 01:34:43,070 --> 01:34:47,710 You know, more than a million people are going to watch these episodes 1377 01:34:47,710 --> 01:34:49,170 collectively, what we've recorded. 1378 01:34:50,010 --> 01:34:55,110 This is such an important retelling of the original text for the internet age. 1379 01:34:56,330 --> 01:34:59,030 Can I interject with one more question before we move forward? 1380 01:34:59,250 --> 01:35:02,570 First of all, is the story complete? Is there some stuff left? 1381 01:35:02,910 --> 01:35:05,890 A little bit. Now they will go back to Ayodhya. 1382 01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:11,820 But go ahead with your question. The question I have is this element of 1383 01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:13,520 being God or human. 1384 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,480 This is another question that came up a lot in the comment section. 1385 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,560 And I think this is in reference to the previous episode where we spoke about 1386 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,040 Hanumanji's reality. 1387 01:35:24,700 --> 01:35:30,020 Where you often visualize him as a God, which he is. Which is why we recite the 1388 01:35:30,020 --> 01:35:31,020 Hanuman Chalisa as well. 1389 01:35:31,480 --> 01:35:32,480 But then... 1390 01:35:32,750 --> 01:35:37,970 Mentions of the Vanaras tell us that they took off their monkey -like masks 1391 01:35:37,970 --> 01:35:38,970 monkey -like tails. 1392 01:35:39,470 --> 01:35:43,270 So these are obviously human beings which are putting on some kind of 1393 01:35:43,670 --> 01:35:49,610 And Hanumanji was a very evolved version of a Vanar. Yes. Was a higher being, 1394 01:35:49,690 --> 01:35:50,690 for sure. 1395 01:35:51,890 --> 01:35:56,970 Now, common understanding in Sanatanis is that Ramji is an avatar of Vishnu. 1396 01:35:58,190 --> 01:36:00,430 Can we bring in Vishnu Bhagwan into... 1397 01:36:00,890 --> 01:36:03,750 This part of the story and this part of this conversation as well. 1398 01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:05,390 What's happening here? 1399 01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:10,510 So your question was, is he human or divine? Yes. 1400 01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:12,330 And the answer is both. 1401 01:36:14,290 --> 01:36:19,730 First of all, right in the beginning, in the first discussion that we had in 1402 01:36:19,730 --> 01:36:26,550 this series, first chapter of the Balakand itself, we had looked at the 1403 01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:32,690 of traits that Maharshi Valmiki was looking for. Remember, and so 1404 01:36:32,690 --> 01:36:36,830 on. And there he had used the word Nara. 1405 01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:43,270 Nara means human. So he was looking for a person, a human who had these 1406 01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:45,110 qualities and then he wrote the story of Ram. 1407 01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:51,530 Afterwards also he has used the word Nara to talk about Sri Ram. So Sri Ram 1408 01:36:51,530 --> 01:36:52,870 the Valmiki Ram mind is human. 1409 01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:56,520 We also saw that he goes through all the human emotions. 1410 01:36:57,940 --> 01:37:03,360 Happiness, love, anger, hopelessness, sorrow, all of it. 1411 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:09,740 Also, many of the magical aspects that we find in other retellings are not 1412 01:37:09,740 --> 01:37:12,460 in the Valmiki Ramayana. So, Sri Ram was human. 1413 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:18,900 At the same time, Maharshi Valmiki has also said that the four sons of Vishnu 1414 01:37:18,900 --> 01:37:21,820 had taken birth as the four sons of Dashrath. 1415 01:37:23,659 --> 01:37:30,640 And at other points also, he refers to Sri Ram as Vishnu being in human form. 1416 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,000 So both. 1417 01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:33,320 Gotcha. Okay. 1418 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:40,220 So proceeding with the story, we are almost at the end. Ravan is no more. 1419 01:37:41,220 --> 01:37:42,860 Ram and Sita are together. 1420 01:37:43,580 --> 01:37:46,440 The war is over and so are the 14 years of exile. 1421 01:37:46,740 --> 01:37:48,480 So it's now time to go home. 1422 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,440 Vibhishan gets the Pushpak Viman ready. 1423 01:37:52,140 --> 01:37:53,140 All of them. 1424 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,140 climb into the Viman and the Viman takes off for Ayodhya. 1425 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:04,000 Along the way, when they are passing over Kishkindha, Sita suggests that they 1426 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,880 could pick up Tara and the other ladies. 1427 01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:11,440 So they bring down the Viman, pick up the additional passengers and then off 1428 01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:12,440 their way again. 1429 01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:19,540 When they come close to Ayodhya, Ram, Lakshman and Sita bow down in reverence 1430 01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:20,720 to the city. 1431 01:38:21,660 --> 01:38:27,610 But then instead of Arriving straight at Ayodhya, Ram gets the Viman 1432 01:38:27,610 --> 01:38:32,870 to turn back and land at Bharadwaj Muni's ashram. 1433 01:38:33,570 --> 01:38:38,510 Remember, during their vanvas also, they had come south to Sringavirpur, crossed 1434 01:38:38,510 --> 01:38:41,690 over the Ganga and then got gone to Bharadwaj Muni's ashram. 1435 01:38:43,050 --> 01:38:48,150 After exchanging some pleasantries, Shri Ram asks Bharadwaj Muni, how are things 1436 01:38:48,150 --> 01:38:49,150 in Ayodhya? 1437 01:38:50,130 --> 01:38:51,610 Bharadwaj Muni knows. 1438 01:38:52,010 --> 01:38:53,030 Why he is asking that? 1439 01:38:54,050 --> 01:38:59,090 And he says, my disciples go there often and I can tell you that Bharat is 1440 01:38:59,090 --> 01:39:00,090 ruling very well. 1441 01:39:00,830 --> 01:39:03,410 And he is waiting for you to come back. 1442 01:39:05,310 --> 01:39:09,830 You had asked me earlier, what happens after the 14 years? So Kaikeyi had asked 1443 01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:15,070 that Ram should be sent off into Anvas and Bharat should be made the king, 1444 01:39:15,210 --> 01:39:18,450 Yuvraj, earlier and then the king. What happens after 14 years? 1445 01:39:19,670 --> 01:39:26,530 At that time, Remember in Chitrakoot, Bharat had said that if you don't come 1446 01:39:26,530 --> 01:39:30,810 back on the very day the 14 years are over, I will kill myself. I'm only 1447 01:39:30,810 --> 01:39:31,870 in your name. 1448 01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:40,410 But Ram wanted to find out what Bharat was thinking now after all these years 1449 01:39:40,410 --> 01:39:45,410 about it before arriving. And he also wanted to know how Bharat was ruling. So 1450 01:39:45,410 --> 01:39:48,430 he had found that Bharat was ruling very well. 1451 01:39:49,210 --> 01:39:55,050 So he told Hanuman to go up to Bharat before they arrived to tell him what all 1452 01:39:55,050 --> 01:39:56,050 had happened. 1453 01:39:56,450 --> 01:40:02,550 And then he said, observe Bharat very carefully, his body language and his 1454 01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:03,550 expressions. 1455 01:40:04,490 --> 01:40:10,210 And if you feel something is amiss, then let me know before I meet Bharat. 1456 01:40:12,410 --> 01:40:17,610 The empire held no attraction for Ram. So he was not eagerly looking forward to 1457 01:40:17,610 --> 01:40:18,610 becoming the king. 1458 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,560 His primary concern always was Prajapalan, welfare of the people. 1459 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,380 And he had found through Bharadwaj Muni that Bharat was ruling well. 1460 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:32,260 And so he wanted to find out that if Bharat wanted to continue, see after 14 1461 01:40:32,260 --> 01:40:37,560 years in power, maybe he thought differently. If Bharat wanted to 1462 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,160 was very happy to let him do so. 1463 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,780 So Hanuman went to meet Bharat, told him what had happened. 1464 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:51,140 Bharat was stunned to hear all this. He did not know about Sita's abduction and 1465 01:40:51,140 --> 01:40:53,020 the war with the Rakshasas or any of it. 1466 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,800 And he was delighted to know that Ram was coming back to Ayodhya. 1467 01:40:58,420 --> 01:41:03,320 He hugged Hanuman and said, Finally, 1468 01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:07,660 my wish has been fulfilled. 1469 01:41:09,900 --> 01:41:13,920 The next day, the Viman arrived in Nandigram. 1470 01:41:14,180 --> 01:41:19,070 By the way, Bharat was ruling as a caretaker, as he had said, from 1471 01:41:19,190 --> 01:41:20,610 which was just outside Ayodhya. 1472 01:41:20,830 --> 01:41:25,970 So he had said he would not enjoy any of the luxuries of royal life while Ram 1473 01:41:25,970 --> 01:41:26,869 was in exile. 1474 01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:30,410 And so he was at Nandigram and that's where the Viman came. 1475 01:41:31,210 --> 01:41:35,590 It was an emotional homecoming for Ram, Lakshmana and Sita. 1476 01:41:37,930 --> 01:41:43,430 Bharat told Ram, now that you are back, take over the empire. 1477 01:41:44,490 --> 01:41:46,750 I have ruled in your name. 1478 01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:53,550 In your absence, the treasury, food stock and the army are 10 times what 1479 01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:58,270 were. So he had grown the economy 10 times in 14 years. He had ruled very 1480 01:41:59,030 --> 01:42:04,330 Even then Bharat said, but no one can rule this vast empire like you. 1481 01:42:05,090 --> 01:42:11,490 I am as capable of walking in your shoes as a donkey is capable of walking like 1482 01:42:11,490 --> 01:42:12,490 a horse. 1483 01:42:12,910 --> 01:42:13,910 Gatinkara. 1484 01:42:15,719 --> 01:42:19,380 The very words he had said 14 years back. 1485 01:42:20,180 --> 01:42:24,160 All these years in power had not changed Bharat one bit. 1486 01:42:24,820 --> 01:42:26,500 And these were the Ikshwakus. 1487 01:42:26,820 --> 01:42:32,260 We had seen earlier 34 generations. They had been ruling for 34 generations and 1488 01:42:32,260 --> 01:42:37,360 still not a trace of any lust for power. Remember the great debate at Chitrakoot 1489 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:42,000 where Ram and Bharat had argued that the other is the rightful successor. 1490 01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,740 Ram agreed to take over the responsibility of the empire. 1491 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:55,860 The coronation was held the next day. Before the coronation, Ram was brought 1492 01:42:55,860 --> 01:43:00,260 from Nandigram to Ayodhya in a grand procession. 1493 01:43:00,480 --> 01:43:02,580 There were musicians and dancers. 1494 01:43:03,180 --> 01:43:04,920 Ayodhya erupted in joy. 1495 01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,920 The streets and buildings were decorated with flags and flowers. 1496 01:43:11,660 --> 01:43:17,900 And then, Maharshi Vasishta placed the crown of the Ikshvakus on Sri Ram's 1497 01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:26,260 Ram gave away gifts to the scholars and the needy. He honored Vibhishan, 1498 01:43:26,380 --> 01:43:29,880 Hanuman, Sugriv and others. 1499 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:37,840 And Sita gave a very special gift, a necklace to a very special person, 1500 01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:42,850 After the coronation, Sugriv went back to Kishkindha. 1501 01:43:44,090 --> 01:43:45,490 Vibhishan went back to Lanka. 1502 01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:50,590 And thus began the glorious reign of King Ram. 1503 01:43:52,310 --> 01:43:57,190 Maharshi Valmiki says, everyone was happy and all was well in the land. 1504 01:43:57,750 --> 01:44:02,810 People lived long and healthy lives. 1505 01:44:03,110 --> 01:44:06,410 They lived in harmony with each other and with nature. 1506 01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:09,930 And Ram was extremely popular. 1507 01:44:10,570 --> 01:44:16,210 People could not get enough of talking about him. Ram did this, Ram did that. 1508 01:44:17,770 --> 01:44:24,770 And thus Ram ruled for many, 1509 01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:25,870 many years. 1510 01:44:31,210 --> 01:44:33,470 This is the story. 1511 01:44:33,710 --> 01:44:36,090 This is how it all happened. 1512 01:44:36,590 --> 01:44:38,550 May you all be well. 1513 01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:44,720 And with those words, the sixth book of the Valmiki Ramayana comes to an end. 1514 01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:51,200 And this is also the end of the Valmiki Ramayana. 1515 01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,160 Jai Sri Ram. Jai Sri Ram. 1516 01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:55,040 Hmm. 1517 01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:57,200 Fun. 1518 01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:02,200 Feeling like a big box has been ticked. From my own artistic journey, I don't 1519 01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:03,200 know how you're feeling. 1520 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:07,340 Definitely. Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to tell. 1521 01:45:07,850 --> 01:45:14,350 This story of Shri Ram, the charitra of Shri Ram, sharing it with all of you. 1522 01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:20,050 Thanks for your life work. That's what I'll say. But before we close off, I 1523 01:45:20,050 --> 01:45:21,630 to make one final remark. 1524 01:45:24,890 --> 01:45:29,330 You had said just now that this is the oldest epic, the Adhika we have written 1525 01:45:29,330 --> 01:45:32,610 all of these thousands of years back and we are still talking about it. 1526 01:45:33,310 --> 01:45:36,990 In fact, in the Ramayana itself, Maharshi Valmiki has this. 1527 01:45:45,449 --> 01:45:51,390 Until the mountains and rivers exist on this earth, Ramayan, the story of Ram, 1528 01:45:51,410 --> 01:45:52,990 will always be told. 1529 01:45:55,050 --> 01:45:57,070 Now, think about it. 1530 01:45:57,610 --> 01:46:02,650 How could Maharshi Valmiki, all of these thousands of years back, be so 1531 01:46:02,650 --> 01:46:07,190 confident that what he was composing, will be told for all times to come. 1532 01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:10,870 How could he be so confident? 1533 01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:13,270 And the answer is relevance. 1534 01:46:14,410 --> 01:46:18,770 The Valmiki Ramayana is relevant for everyone and for all times. 1535 01:46:21,210 --> 01:46:25,550 In the first session, you had asked the question, I think it was your first 1536 01:46:25,550 --> 01:46:28,690 question, why did Maharshi Valmiki write it? 1537 01:46:29,890 --> 01:46:31,990 And we had looked at the first few verses. 1538 01:46:39,749 --> 01:46:43,670 Who in the world lives today? Who has all the qualities of an outstanding 1539 01:46:43,670 --> 01:46:45,650 person? Who is a great role model? 1540 01:46:47,330 --> 01:46:51,330 And then in the next few verses, he had listed out these qualities. Who has the 1541 01:46:51,330 --> 01:46:52,330 strength of character? 1542 01:46:52,450 --> 01:46:58,630 Who is thoughtful, caring, generous, grateful, truthful, a doer, scholar? 1543 01:46:59,270 --> 01:47:01,410 He has attained control over his anger. 1544 01:47:02,190 --> 01:47:05,700 But, won't remain silent in the face of wrongdoing. 1545 01:47:06,540 --> 01:47:09,680 And then Maharshi Valmiki wrote the story of Ram. 1546 01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:12,600 Because Ram had all of those qualities. 1547 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:17,320 Now note, these qualities are universal human values. 1548 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:23,140 Who can argue that being grateful, thoughtful, caring is not good? 1549 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:29,800 And so Sri Ram exemplifies these universal human values. 1550 01:47:31,500 --> 01:47:36,480 See, Ram's ideal is not limited by any philosophy or doctrine. 1551 01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:39,820 There are no religious do's and don'ts in this book. 1552 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:46,020 And that is why the Ramayana is relevant for everyone and for all times, 1553 01:47:46,060 --> 01:47:48,000 relevant for you and me today. 1554 01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:56,720 See, you are doing some exciting and bold initiatives in your podcast about 1555 01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,860 the global expansion and so on. 1556 01:47:59,210 --> 01:48:03,470 Also in your personal life, you shared some interesting developments. 1557 01:48:04,770 --> 01:48:11,130 For you and for me, can we think of the Ramayana in 1558 01:48:11,130 --> 01:48:13,330 our life? That is the question. 1559 01:48:14,850 --> 01:48:17,650 Can we think beyond ourselves and our self -interest? 1560 01:48:18,350 --> 01:48:21,890 Can we choose to do the right thing even when the costs are high? 1561 01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:24,910 Can we support others in their time of need? 1562 01:48:25,890 --> 01:48:28,410 And surely there will be times when we feel hopeless. 1563 01:48:28,810 --> 01:48:29,810 And overwhelmed. 1564 01:48:30,630 --> 01:48:34,550 Can we think of what. Sri Ram, Lakshman, Sita and Hanuman did. 1565 01:48:35,170 --> 01:48:36,170 And know. 1566 01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:37,650 That we have to keep going. 1567 01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:39,070 Never give up. 1568 01:48:40,670 --> 01:48:45,750 And when. We have done everything that we can do. Can we accept whatever life 1569 01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:46,750 throws at us. 1570 01:48:46,990 --> 01:48:48,690 Without anger. Without irritation. 1571 01:48:49,070 --> 01:48:50,590 Just the way Sri Ram accepted. 1572 01:48:51,050 --> 01:48:52,810 On the day of his exile. 1573 01:48:54,210 --> 01:48:55,290 That is the relevance. 1574 01:48:55,770 --> 01:48:56,850 Of the Ramayana. 1575 01:48:57,420 --> 01:49:03,220 This conversation is important because hopefully we can not only connect our 1576 01:49:03,220 --> 01:49:10,020 audience with Maharshi Valmiki's words, but also show them how it can be 1577 01:49:10,020 --> 01:49:12,200 useful in their day -to -day lives. 1578 01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,500 It's petrol for the subconscious mind. 1579 01:49:15,020 --> 01:49:16,400 That's how I look at the Ramayana. 1580 01:49:17,700 --> 01:49:23,500 Fuels your journey through life. And it's always done that for every Indian 1581 01:49:23,500 --> 01:49:24,500 who's familiar with the story. 1582 01:49:24,660 --> 01:49:26,400 This whole series was created. 1583 01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:32,020 Honestly, primarily for a global audience to expose them to the story of 1584 01:49:32,020 --> 01:49:36,600 Ramayana. And there's a lot of people of Indian origin all over the world who 1585 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,940 wish to hear the story in English and who wish to know the true version of the 1586 01:49:40,940 --> 01:49:46,680 story. So this is why it's a big artistic tick mark for me. It's been a 1587 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:51,080 mine since my career began. And you were the right person, you know, that 1588 01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:54,300 Hanumanji sent and that Maharishi Valmiki sent. Thank you. 1589 01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,200 You said it is for the global audience. Of course, it should be. Like we said, 1590 01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:59,360 it is universal. 1591 01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:06,600 As I'm moving into my 30s, I'm 31 now. I'll turn 32 this year. 1592 01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:12,660 One of the big life lessons I'm understanding is that there's variables 1593 01:50:12,660 --> 01:50:15,180 and there's constants in life. 1594 01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:20,780 And we often only address the positive constants, which are your family 1595 01:50:22,020 --> 01:50:23,940 You know, maybe love as an emotion. 1596 01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:25,860 Maybe growth is a constant. 1597 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:31,540 But there's another very big constant that you're not told about when you're 1598 01:50:31,540 --> 01:50:34,100 growing up. And often you learn it through the course of life. 1599 01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,040 And that constant is the factor of unpredictability. 1600 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:40,840 It's not a variable. 1601 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,340 I've understood that life is deeply unpredictable. 1602 01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:47,580 That's just the nature of being a human being. 1603 01:50:48,300 --> 01:50:53,300 And this is exactly why you need that sort of morals, ethics. 1604 01:50:54,180 --> 01:50:56,880 which you get from the Ramayana. 1605 01:50:57,260 --> 01:51:03,600 I think that's what you're going towards as well. That this is a bit of a GPS 1606 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,040 for life in some ways. 1607 01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:10,380 Definitely when we keep an ideal in front of us, we become more like that. 1608 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:16,380 Remember we had spoken about this in our very first discussion before we started 1609 01:51:16,380 --> 01:51:19,320 the four part series. Why should we read this again and again? 1610 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,780 Because over time, the right actions become our default actions. 1611 01:51:23,450 --> 01:51:29,810 As we move towards this ending note, what I've realized about you is that 1612 01:51:29,810 --> 01:51:34,730 you've had a very successful business career before you began this journey of 1613 01:51:34,730 --> 01:51:35,730 studying the Ramayana. 1614 01:51:36,090 --> 01:51:42,110 And you've told me off camera about all the adventures you had through your 1615 01:51:42,110 --> 01:51:45,650 business career. There were some very intense, difficult periods as well. 1616 01:51:46,010 --> 01:51:50,550 But you just kind of swiftly move past those periods. 1617 01:51:51,820 --> 01:51:55,640 So that you can be here in this room and share the story of the Ramayana with 1618 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,260 the world. The original true Maharishi Valmiki Ramayana. 1619 01:51:59,940 --> 01:52:05,560 Yes, I certainly feel blessed and privileged that I'm able to do the work 1620 01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,760 I'm doing for the last six years. 1621 01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:14,640 What I will end this podcast with is a truth that I've realized while sitting 1622 01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:19,580 front of you. You're easily the most humble person that we've had in the 1623 01:52:19,700 --> 01:52:20,900 And I've not told you this until now. 1624 01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:25,400 But I genuinely feel that. Like I've spoken to all sorts of people, never met 1625 01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:29,800 anyone as humble as you, which is why, you know, I think Shriram chose you 1626 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:33,880 himself. So thank you. Thank you for being in this room. Thank you. 1627 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:40,040 That was the series finale, ladies and gentlemen. Of course, if you've not 1628 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:44,860 checked out the first three episodes, do go check them out. We'll link them down 1629 01:52:44,860 --> 01:52:45,860 below as well. 1630 01:52:46,540 --> 01:52:49,020 It's been a spiritual purpose. 1631 01:52:49,710 --> 01:52:54,170 within the realms of my professional life to create this exact series at some 1632 01:52:54,170 --> 01:52:59,110 point. And 10 years into YouTubing, we've finally been able to do an 1633 01:52:59,110 --> 01:53:05,390 retelling of Valmiki's Ramayan for the 2025 podcast listening audience. 1634 01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:09,490 Doing the series was almost therapeutic for me in so many ways. 1635 01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:15,430 Got a glimpse of what Bharat used to be 14 ,000 years ago because this is the 1636 01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:18,810 real history of India that were not taught in schools. 1637 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:26,540 um this particular series has been created with very very pure intention by 1638 01:53:26,540 --> 01:53:30,560 both yashodeep sir and myself which is why i hope that it reaches every single 1639 01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:35,700 indian and we get to know the ramayana in much more detail than we knew before 1640 01:53:35,700 --> 01:53:40,740 the series existed we intend on creating a series related to the mahabharata in 1641 01:53:40,740 --> 01:53:46,100 the future as well but please enjoy this one for now re -watch it if you must 1642 01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:50,880 and if you want an even more detailed version of this kind of a retelling, do 1643 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:56,280 visit Yasodip Sir's YouTube channel. It's called 21 Notes, where he's given 1644 01:53:56,280 --> 01:54:02,660 very, very, very detailed episodes related to Valmiki's Ramayana, the only 1645 01:54:02,660 --> 01:54:05,440 and honest retelling of our epic. 1646 01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,820 Thank you for listening and lots of love. Jai Shri Ram. 144542

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