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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:30,572 --> 00:00:35,368 There are no rational explanations for miracles 4 00:00:36,578 --> 00:00:38,455 but here we are. 5 00:00:42,125 --> 00:00:44,753 Still, the question remains: 6 00:00:45,545 --> 00:00:46,921 Why? 7 00:00:47,464 --> 00:00:49,090 Why us? 8 00:00:52,927 --> 00:00:54,971 My uncle Alfons wrote those words 9 00:00:55,054 --> 00:00:58,183 50 years after immigrating to America, 10 00:00:58,975 --> 00:01:02,520 on this ship, the S.S. Marine Flasher. 11 00:01:04,105 --> 00:01:08,026 Without their parents, he accompanied my Aunt Ruth, 12 00:01:08,860 --> 00:01:13,198 Aunt Senta, Aunt Gertrude, Aunt Renee, 13 00:01:13,281 --> 00:01:16,242 Aunt Judith, and this little girl: 14 00:01:16,326 --> 00:01:18,953 My mom, Bela. 15 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:23,875 They are the only family of seven Jewish siblings 16 00:01:23,958 --> 00:01:26,878 known to have survived together. 17 00:01:28,171 --> 00:01:29,881 Oh my god, an old photograph. 18 00:01:31,007 --> 00:01:32,759 Okay. Then there's this. 19 00:01:32,842 --> 00:01:35,637 - That's, that's on the end. - Yeah, oh, I... make it smaller. 20 00:01:36,596 --> 00:01:37,963 - I mean, I remember this picture. - Yeah. 21 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:41,100 So, okay. 22 00:01:41,184 --> 00:01:43,895 Did we know that the S.S. searched 23 00:01:43,978 --> 00:01:46,105 the farmhouse where we lived in Worin? 24 00:01:46,189 --> 00:01:47,190 - Yes. - What about it? 25 00:01:47,273 --> 00:01:49,984 After their rescue, my mom was adopted 26 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:52,987 and didn't see her siblings for 40 years. 27 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:56,199 Hello, Tante. 28 00:01:56,282 --> 00:01:57,784 Beth! How are you! 29 00:01:57,867 --> 00:01:59,035 So growing up, 30 00:01:59,118 --> 00:02:02,622 I would imagine who they were and what they looked like. 31 00:02:03,706 --> 00:02:05,124 Show Ruth. 32 00:02:07,418 --> 00:02:10,797 - This is in front of the train. - Oh my god, it's 1,000 years ago. 33 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,632 Now, the two eldest, 34 00:02:12,715 --> 00:02:15,885 Senta and Alfons have already passed away. 35 00:02:15,969 --> 00:02:17,637 You’re awakening the dead! 36 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,223 He had a lot of chutzpah, dying on us. 37 00:02:20,306 --> 00:02:21,349 - Yes, he did. - Yeah. 38 00:02:21,432 --> 00:02:24,727 And what memories my remaining aunts have 39 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:26,020 are fading. 40 00:02:26,104 --> 00:02:28,439 There I am, there you are. 41 00:02:28,565 --> 00:02:30,692 - That’s me. Judy. - We weren't that bad looking then. 42 00:02:30,775 --> 00:02:33,069 - Ruth, do you still smoke? - She better not. 43 00:02:33,152 --> 00:02:34,237 E-cigarettes! 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,365 Well, I gotta have one habit. I can't have sex anymore. 45 00:02:37,907 --> 00:02:40,076 - Says who? - I don't have a boyfriend anymore! 46 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:42,453 So, I gotta have something! 47 00:02:42,579 --> 00:02:44,080 You recording this crap? 48 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:47,333 I never thought they would tell me their story. 49 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:48,334 ‫ 50 00:02:48,418 --> 00:02:50,753 But one fragment at a time, 51 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:53,506 full of holes and often conflicting. 52 00:02:53,590 --> 00:02:55,174 - That's not mama. - That's Mama! 53 00:02:55,258 --> 00:02:56,217 I don't believe it. 54 00:02:56,301 --> 00:02:59,095 They give me something to hold on to. 55 00:03:02,807 --> 00:03:05,768 With Uncle Alfons's letters as my road map... 56 00:03:06,561 --> 00:03:08,229 So tell me about Worin. 57 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:12,150 And each of their voices ringing in my ears, 58 00:03:12,692 --> 00:03:15,904 I go back in time to Germany. 59 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:19,240 To understand how my family survived, 60 00:03:19,616 --> 00:03:21,993 yet remained unbroken. 61 00:04:28,476 --> 00:04:30,561 It's a very... it's a very poetic story, 62 00:04:31,688 --> 00:04:35,274 um, in the first place, how the story begins. 63 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:42,198 How Alexander, their father, met Lina, their mother. 64 00:04:45,159 --> 00:04:48,204 Alexander coming to Hungary 65 00:04:49,872 --> 00:04:55,336 and seeing this girl carrying water from the fountain. 66 00:04:56,921 --> 00:04:59,632 It's a Biblical story, you know? 67 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:01,968 He saw her, he fell in love with her, 68 00:05:03,344 --> 00:05:05,888 and he fought to get her, and he did get her. 69 00:05:06,723 --> 00:05:09,434 You see, my father, he was Catholic. 70 00:05:09,517 --> 00:05:13,646 But my mother, she was very Jewish. 71 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:16,566 She came from a very Orthodox background. 72 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:19,485 Listen, if you dropped a piece of bread, 73 00:05:19,569 --> 00:05:21,195 you better pick it up and kiss it. 74 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,075 It was a sin to ever desecrate any kind of food. 75 00:05:31,914 --> 00:05:35,251 My grandfather was a cantor. 76 00:05:35,334 --> 00:05:39,172 When my father asked him that he want to marry her, 77 00:05:39,756 --> 00:05:42,383 he told him, "You gotta become a Jew, 78 00:05:42,467 --> 00:05:44,719 otherwise you can't marry her." 79 00:05:45,595 --> 00:05:47,221 And he did! 80 00:05:47,305 --> 00:05:49,640 My father became a Jew! 81 00:05:53,227 --> 00:05:56,606 Papa was born into a strict Catholic family 82 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:58,816 in Paderborn, Germany. 83 00:06:01,235 --> 00:06:05,573 Conversion from Christianity, and especially Catholicism, 84 00:06:05,656 --> 00:06:08,117 was practically unheard of. 85 00:06:08,576 --> 00:06:12,455 But Papa studied the precepts of Judaism, 86 00:06:12,538 --> 00:06:15,875 underwent circumcision, and they were married 87 00:06:15,958 --> 00:06:19,837 on September 12, 1926. 88 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:28,471 His family did not approve of him because of it. 89 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:31,307 Because he changed. 90 00:06:32,183 --> 00:06:34,143 Because of the row this caused, 91 00:06:34,685 --> 00:06:37,688 Mama and Papa moved to Berlin. 92 00:06:58,417 --> 00:07:01,921 I’m grasping for shadows, places they played, 93 00:07:02,004 --> 00:07:04,257 places they disappeared, 94 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:07,969 and I’m searching for their building, which doesn’t even exist anymore. 95 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:14,517 So what we're looking for is 31 Grenedierstrasse, 96 00:07:15,059 --> 00:07:16,561 So which one do you think it is? 97 00:07:16,644 --> 00:07:18,312 - Probably the left side of this. - This one. 98 00:07:18,396 --> 00:07:19,604 Oh, I'm so sorry. 99 00:07:19,605 --> 00:07:21,232 - You live in this building? - Yes. 100 00:07:21,315 --> 00:07:23,943 - Can you open this door for us? - Yeah. 101 00:07:24,026 --> 00:07:25,528 - Really? - Yeah. 102 00:07:40,793 --> 00:07:45,381 My first recollections go back to this small apartment. 103 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:51,596 Just two simple rooms forming an L-shaped area. 104 00:07:57,185 --> 00:07:59,437 The old building may be gone. 105 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,480 But the courtyard remains. 106 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:03,149 A world all its own, 107 00:08:03,774 --> 00:08:06,360 with scattered shards from the past. 108 00:08:10,948 --> 00:08:14,202 What was it that enabled my family to defy the odds 109 00:08:14,785 --> 00:08:17,455 when so many others couldn’t? 110 00:08:20,917 --> 00:08:22,126 And my parents, 111 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:25,129 they wound up in the poorest section of Berlin 112 00:08:26,923 --> 00:08:29,217 which is called the Scheunenviertel. 113 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:38,142 It was very mixed. 114 00:08:38,226 --> 00:08:39,519 A lot of Jewish people. 115 00:08:39,602 --> 00:08:41,938 We had a few shuls on our street. 116 00:08:45,274 --> 00:08:46,817 On the corner we had a kush-tow. 117 00:08:46,901 --> 00:08:50,446 A cow stall on the corner at the end of our block. 118 00:08:50,529 --> 00:08:52,698 I mean, we lived really, 119 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:55,993 a shoe store on one side, a cow shed on the other. 120 00:08:56,077 --> 00:08:58,412 What about a blacksmith? 121 00:08:58,496 --> 00:09:00,122 Blacksmith in the back, yeah. 122 00:09:00,206 --> 00:09:01,374 - There you go. - Yeah. 123 00:09:01,457 --> 00:09:03,543 - We had it all. Uh-huh. - Yeah. 124 00:09:04,252 --> 00:09:08,673 The Grenadierstrasse was a beehive of Jewish activity 125 00:09:08,756 --> 00:09:14,512 and Mama had a legitimate business repairing clients' stockings. 126 00:09:14,595 --> 00:09:16,973 What do you remember about your mother? 127 00:09:17,056 --> 00:09:18,391 She was small. 128 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:20,226 She was a chain smoker. 129 00:09:20,851 --> 00:09:25,815 She had a lot of friends in the Roma community. 130 00:09:30,903 --> 00:09:34,031 She and a gypsy woman, who lived in the next building, 131 00:09:34,115 --> 00:09:37,576 decided that her son and I should get married. 132 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,372 Oh, my God. You know? 133 00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:44,667 I think maybe 10, 11 years old. 134 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:47,628 He taught me how to tap dance! 135 00:09:48,754 --> 00:09:50,339 Oh, it was funny. 136 00:09:50,423 --> 00:09:52,383 He thought it was great! 137 00:09:55,261 --> 00:09:59,640 There was always a lot of excitement, especially on Fridays. 138 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:03,436 Mama lit the Shabbos candles 139 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:08,524 and thus welcomed the Sabbath into our home. 140 00:10:10,318 --> 00:10:12,403 We were very fortunate. 141 00:10:12,486 --> 00:10:15,823 I just know there’s a lot of things I’d rather not think about. 142 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:26,375 In school you had to wear a Jewish star. 143 00:10:28,252 --> 00:10:31,213 When we’d leave the school we would take it off, 144 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:35,217 otherwise kids would pick on us. So... 145 00:10:40,222 --> 00:10:42,475 There was trouble developing. 146 00:10:42,558 --> 00:10:45,144 I recall seeing an open truck 147 00:10:45,227 --> 00:10:49,357 loaded with brown shirts flying the swastika flag 148 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,193 driving through the Grenadierstrasse, 149 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,364 with the men shouting in unison. 150 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:02,870 I ran from a lot of that stuff because it was so painful. 151 00:11:04,372 --> 00:11:08,876 And why it would affect me more than it would the others I don’t know. 152 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:12,380 Alfons knew what was going on. 153 00:11:12,463 --> 00:11:14,548 Senta knew what was going... 154 00:11:14,632 --> 00:11:17,301 Me, I was like a blind bat. 155 00:11:28,062 --> 00:11:30,356 Ruth used to drag me to the movie theater 156 00:11:30,481 --> 00:11:34,443 and pluck me, plop me down in a seat in the movie theater. 157 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:46,163 Oh, god, I loved movies. I stole money to go to the movies. 158 00:11:46,247 --> 00:11:51,210 The last movie I saw in Berlin was "My Grosse Liebe" 159 00:11:51,710 --> 00:11:53,379 "My Great Love." 160 00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:10,187 Zarah Leander. The movie star. 161 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:15,025 When you were in the public eye, 162 00:12:15,109 --> 00:12:16,902 you had to please Hitler. 163 00:12:16,986 --> 00:12:19,155 So, she was a lover of Hitler. 164 00:12:19,947 --> 00:12:23,325 But at the time I didn't know that and didn't care. 165 00:12:23,409 --> 00:12:25,161 Long as it wasn't me. 166 00:12:39,258 --> 00:12:43,888 Alfons wrote that he had no idea what was going on around them. 167 00:12:43,971 --> 00:12:48,184 This “idyllic childhood” is what he called it. 168 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:52,271 Even though they were surrounded by a rising Third Reich. 169 00:12:58,027 --> 00:13:01,155 Only four of the seven Weber children had been born 170 00:13:01,238 --> 00:13:06,118 when Hitler became Chancellor of Germany in 1933. 171 00:13:07,119 --> 00:13:10,206 One month later, their father was arrested, 172 00:13:10,289 --> 00:13:12,875 and sent to a concentration camp. 173 00:13:19,256 --> 00:13:21,717 Okay. Let's see, number eight. 174 00:13:22,092 --> 00:13:23,511 Here's Number 8. 175 00:13:23,594 --> 00:13:25,137 - Uh-huh. - We just entered here. 176 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:29,141 It says in the Oranienburg Concentration Camp, 177 00:13:29,225 --> 00:13:31,101 over 3,000 prisoners, 178 00:13:31,185 --> 00:13:33,896 mostly political opponents of the National Socialists, 179 00:13:34,855 --> 00:13:38,150 were humiliated and maltreated. 180 00:13:39,151 --> 00:13:41,028 Some of them were even murdered. 181 00:13:55,376 --> 00:13:57,711 My father became incarcerated 182 00:13:57,795 --> 00:14:00,548 for about eight months or 10 months or something. 183 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:05,135 He was not the same person when he came out. 184 00:14:08,138 --> 00:14:10,933 He had lost part of his teeth. He was always fearful. 185 00:14:12,643 --> 00:14:15,187 - Why was he arrested? - Who knows! 186 00:14:15,271 --> 00:14:17,273 You didn't have to do much to be arrested. 187 00:14:17,356 --> 00:14:19,858 I really honestly can't tell you. 188 00:14:24,446 --> 00:14:27,575 I think it's because he was married to a Jewish woman. 189 00:14:28,158 --> 00:14:31,036 And they told him if he'd divorce her, 190 00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:33,080 he'd be fine. 191 00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:36,000 And I guess he refused. 192 00:15:08,907 --> 00:15:10,743 When he came home, he said he was lucky. 193 00:15:11,535 --> 00:15:12,870 I said, "You were lucky?" 194 00:15:12,953 --> 00:15:16,332 He said, "Yeah, because I was put to work in the laundry, 195 00:15:17,791 --> 00:15:19,376 and I was busy every day." 196 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:21,211 So that's how men are going crazy. 197 00:15:21,295 --> 00:15:24,506 They had to sit for hours in one spot. 198 00:15:25,007 --> 00:15:27,384 He said, "After a while you go meshuga!" 199 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:30,512 So he considered himself lucky. 200 00:15:33,223 --> 00:15:35,017 Mama had a lot of chutzpah. 201 00:15:36,018 --> 00:15:38,312 Apparently, the court that tried Papa 202 00:15:38,395 --> 00:15:42,149 sent a letter to our apartment that exonerated him, 203 00:15:42,232 --> 00:15:45,110 but kept him imprisoned just the same. 204 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:50,449 Mama marched down to the courthouse with the letter in her hand 205 00:15:50,532 --> 00:15:54,662 and used the Nazis' own bureaucracy against them 206 00:15:54,745 --> 00:15:58,290 and got Papa out of that living hell. 207 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:08,258 Upon release, prisoners had to sign a pledge of secrecy 208 00:16:08,342 --> 00:16:11,178 swearing that they had not been harmed. 209 00:16:16,975 --> 00:16:21,105 So, um, this is the file of Alexander Weber. 210 00:16:27,403 --> 00:16:29,446 Oh, my god. 211 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,658 So he says, "I was arrested in '33, 212 00:16:33,742 --> 00:16:37,162 and came into the concentration camp for nine months." 213 00:16:37,996 --> 00:16:40,833 - That's the original picture. - Uh-huh. 214 00:16:43,293 --> 00:16:45,629 No. No. 215 00:16:45,713 --> 00:16:46,964 I didn't. 216 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:52,052 I guess there's just something about 217 00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:54,722 seeing original source documents 218 00:16:54,805 --> 00:16:57,641 - that's so, um... - Yeah. Yeah. 219 00:16:57,725 --> 00:16:59,601 Emotional. 220 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:01,812 For lack of a better word. 221 00:17:02,646 --> 00:17:06,108 I mean, I've seen his picture before, but this is the original. 222 00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:08,110 So this means that this is, 223 00:17:08,193 --> 00:17:11,113 this room, this piece of... 224 00:17:11,739 --> 00:17:14,867 this picture was in the same room as my grandfather. 225 00:17:17,786 --> 00:17:20,164 Yeah. 226 00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:34,887 You don't go through what he did in a camp 227 00:17:35,763 --> 00:17:39,099 and walk away emotionally whole. 228 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,934 You're broken. 229 00:17:41,477 --> 00:17:43,145 And you spend the rest of your life 230 00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:45,689 trying to put yourself back together. 231 00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:49,067 So, this is what Aunt Judith sent me. 232 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:51,111 I never saw that before. 233 00:17:51,195 --> 00:17:53,197 I've seen that. Sure. 234 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,281 Wow! 235 00:17:54,364 --> 00:17:56,575 Never seen him look so good. 236 00:17:56,658 --> 00:17:59,411 Here he's just casual, but here he looks old! 237 00:17:59,495 --> 00:18:01,330 Yeah, doesn't it? I know. 238 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:02,498 God, scary. 239 00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:03,916 Listen, he had a hard life! 240 00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,710 A lot of guys in his position would have taken off. 241 00:18:07,419 --> 00:18:08,489 He didn't. 242 00:18:08,513 --> 00:18:10,923 Not bothered with the kids. Just taken off. 243 00:18:23,852 --> 00:18:25,145 After he was released, 244 00:18:25,229 --> 00:18:28,106 Papa was placed under police surveillance. 245 00:18:28,607 --> 00:18:32,236 And in view of his concentration camp record, 246 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:35,739 it was very difficult for him to get a job. 247 00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:40,035 But this was just a preamble for things to come. 248 00:18:45,916 --> 00:18:50,045 The Nuremberg laws of 1935 revoked citizenship 249 00:18:50,128 --> 00:18:51,672 of German Jews. 250 00:18:52,422 --> 00:18:57,594 In 1938 alone, 19 restrictive laws were passed. 251 00:18:59,471 --> 00:19:01,473 When World War II started 252 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:06,854 the Nazis’ persecution of Jews took on its violent, murderous character. 253 00:19:09,189 --> 00:19:14,736 And then, the deportations from Berlin began in 1941. 254 00:19:17,406 --> 00:19:21,994 And many individuals tried to go underground and into hiding. 255 00:19:25,622 --> 00:19:28,667 For those unfortunates on the run from the Gestapo, 256 00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:32,421 Mama provided shelter. 257 00:19:35,883 --> 00:19:39,303 There were people that would come and stay 258 00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:42,639 in a room next to our apartment 259 00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:44,808 one night, 260 00:19:45,392 --> 00:19:47,436 and then the next day they'd be gone. 261 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:49,313 And then somebody else moved in, 262 00:19:49,396 --> 00:19:51,106 and the next day they'd be gone. 263 00:19:51,189 --> 00:19:52,774 People would come to the house, 264 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:54,693 and they would maybe bring a fur coat 265 00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:56,820 and my mother would send me two blocks over 266 00:19:56,904 --> 00:19:59,865 to a woman that was a seamstress, 267 00:19:59,948 --> 00:20:01,658 and I would take it there, 268 00:20:01,742 --> 00:20:04,077 and she sort of would appraise what it was worth, 269 00:20:04,161 --> 00:20:06,038 and then I would bring it back again. 270 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:09,791 She put us into danger by doing what she was doing. 271 00:20:10,834 --> 00:20:14,880 And that became rather stressful, I would say. 272 00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:18,300 My father was very much against it. 273 00:20:18,383 --> 00:20:20,052 Very much so. 274 00:20:20,135 --> 00:20:22,387 Because he kept thinking, 275 00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:25,474 "If she gets hurt or gets caught, 276 00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:27,017 so would the children." 277 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,186 He kept telling her not to do it. 278 00:20:29,978 --> 00:20:32,230 Because he said, "You're gonna get caught." 279 00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:35,317 And she said, "It's all right. 280 00:20:36,151 --> 00:20:38,612 These people need to get out." 281 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:43,325 I remember her one time leaving Berlin 282 00:20:43,408 --> 00:20:45,035 and going to Kron. 283 00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:47,347 And the reason she went there 284 00:20:47,371 --> 00:20:50,207 was to try to bring back a couple of people. 285 00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:55,629 She made off like she was one of the... part of the Gestapo. 286 00:20:55,712 --> 00:20:58,547 She pretended like she was in charge. 287 00:20:58,548 --> 00:21:01,176 And she did, she brought them back to Berlin. 288 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,262 She had beautiful black hair, 289 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:07,474 and it was long. 290 00:21:08,016 --> 00:21:10,894 Well, to get back home, she didn't have the money. 291 00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:15,440 So she sold her hair to a wig maker, 292 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,236 and she had the money then to come back to Berlin. 293 00:21:21,655 --> 00:21:24,616 To her, it was the right thing to do, 294 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:26,618 to help other people. 295 00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:32,124 She believed that you help others, you help yourself. 296 00:21:34,751 --> 00:21:37,379 But things didn't work out that way. 297 00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:43,260 Because of her underground dealings, 298 00:21:43,343 --> 00:21:46,304 Mama must have been under police surveillance, 299 00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:49,599 and they arrested her several times. 300 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:54,438 I remember one time somebody came to the house 301 00:21:54,521 --> 00:21:55,814 to pick her up. 302 00:21:55,897 --> 00:21:57,607 They forced, they actually came in, 303 00:21:57,691 --> 00:21:59,526 and my mother was very scared, 304 00:21:59,609 --> 00:22:01,820 and she said to me, "What should I do?" 305 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:04,364 What should she do? We were alone. 306 00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:07,951 I was there with my mother and she said, "What should I do?" 307 00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,454 And I told her to pray to God. 308 00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:13,874 Now did they pick her up at that time? 309 00:22:13,957 --> 00:22:16,793 She got picked up more than once, I know that. 310 00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:19,296 They'd pick her up and then they would release her. 311 00:22:20,881 --> 00:22:24,384 They didn't come with a truckful of soldiers. 312 00:22:24,468 --> 00:22:28,638 It usually was two or three guys that would show up, 313 00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:32,517 and they would say, "You have to come with us." 314 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:34,186 There was no arguing. 315 00:22:34,269 --> 00:22:37,606 You just, "You have to come with us," and that was it. 316 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:43,487 My memory, you know, my memory of her 317 00:22:44,321 --> 00:22:46,698 is when she was taken away. 318 00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:50,577 I was home with her, alone. 319 00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:54,664 And there was a knock at the door. 320 00:23:02,798 --> 00:23:05,050 And there's a part of me 321 00:23:05,133 --> 00:23:07,886 that thinks I was hiding behind a door. 322 00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:12,808 And I remember that there were, I think, two men there. 323 00:23:23,610 --> 00:23:25,362 And they took her downstairs 324 00:23:25,445 --> 00:23:29,658 and I crawled up on the windowsill, or like a window ledge, 325 00:23:30,867 --> 00:23:32,494 and looked down, 326 00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:36,790 and saw her being put into a car 327 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:40,460 and being driven off. 328 00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:46,424 And I was there by myself. 329 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:57,060 It's hard for me to actually believe 330 00:23:57,144 --> 00:24:00,021 that they didn't know that I was there, 331 00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:03,692 and that they took her and left me. 332 00:24:05,193 --> 00:24:07,362 I mean, it doesn't make sense. 333 00:24:07,445 --> 00:24:09,281 But that's what I remember. 334 00:24:11,449 --> 00:24:16,371 So what's actual fact, and what's my imagination? 335 00:24:16,454 --> 00:24:17,956 I don't know. 336 00:24:19,374 --> 00:24:21,168 When we came home in the evening 337 00:24:21,251 --> 00:24:23,336 and discovered Bela alone, 338 00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:26,131 Papa marched down to the police station 339 00:24:26,214 --> 00:24:28,300 to find out about Mama. 340 00:24:28,884 --> 00:24:30,510 They arrested him 341 00:24:32,387 --> 00:24:34,347 and threw him in jail. 342 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:40,103 The next morning, a man from the Jewish community came 343 00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:43,690 and told us that we were to go with him. 344 00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:47,235 We were all arrested 345 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:51,823 and incarcerated, actually 346 00:24:51,907 --> 00:24:54,242 - in the hospital, - Mm-hm. 347 00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:59,289 Which they kinda turned into an incarceration point. 348 00:25:07,714 --> 00:25:10,383 Can you read to me what it says here? 349 00:25:28,485 --> 00:25:30,278 We were in a basement. 350 00:25:32,155 --> 00:25:34,616 I remember hearing people screaming. 351 00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:39,829 I remember being very scared. 352 00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:40,830 So... 353 00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:45,502 We were left alone much of the first afternoon. 354 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:49,464 So I snuck out and went back to our apartment, 355 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:52,467 which was under Gestapo seal by then. 356 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:56,846 I climbed through the transom, hid some papers 357 00:25:56,930 --> 00:26:01,601 and jewelry in the attic and returned to the hospital. 358 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,355 As soon as I rejoined my sisters, 359 00:26:05,438 --> 00:26:09,567 a male medical orderly put an iron grip on my left arm 360 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,737 and I was locked up. 361 00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:17,242 At first we weren't under lock and key. 362 00:26:17,325 --> 00:26:19,911 But then they put us all under lock and key. 363 00:26:21,454 --> 00:26:24,416 And at one time, from what I heard, 364 00:26:24,499 --> 00:26:27,961 that my mother, peace be with her, came, 365 00:26:28,044 --> 00:26:32,549 and Senta and Ruth saw her. 366 00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:41,349 Do you know what? She didn't come by herself. 367 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:42,559 Somebody brought her. 368 00:26:42,642 --> 00:26:44,477 A couple of guys. Mm-hm. 369 00:26:44,978 --> 00:26:46,604 I'm sure it must have been from the Gestapo. 370 00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:49,858 Maybe they were trying to prove to her that we were alive, 371 00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:51,359 I don't know. 372 00:26:51,901 --> 00:26:53,987 Yeah, I'm sure they tortured her plenty. 373 00:26:54,946 --> 00:26:56,448 Yeah. 374 00:26:57,574 --> 00:27:00,243 After that, she probably got shipped off. 375 00:27:11,087 --> 00:27:15,133 Remarkably, Papa was only kept prisoner for about a month, 376 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,012 but we were still under lock and key. 377 00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:23,391 We had a neighbor, Arthur Schmidt, 378 00:27:23,767 --> 00:27:26,311 a wholesaler dealing with fruits and vegetables 379 00:27:26,394 --> 00:27:29,356 that he grew on his estate in Worin, 380 00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:32,150 60 kilometers east of Berlin. 381 00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:36,071 He had a store underneath the apartment, 382 00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:37,238 and he was very friendly. 383 00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:42,285 He used to get all the boys to come out to the orchards. 384 00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:43,745 And he got to know Papa. 385 00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,210 He went out of his way really, 386 00:27:50,293 --> 00:27:53,963 and how many Germans did that for other people? I don’t know. 387 00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:59,094 Arthur Schmidt was very familiar with our circumstances 388 00:27:59,177 --> 00:28:03,390 and knew that Papa was desperate about our safety. 389 00:28:04,307 --> 00:28:08,061 Two weeks later, we children were released. 390 00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:11,606 We went back to the apartment. 391 00:28:11,689 --> 00:28:13,650 But we were already registered 392 00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:15,902 to be shipped off to Auschwitz. 393 00:28:16,444 --> 00:28:19,239 We were put in the back of Schimdt's truck, 394 00:28:19,948 --> 00:28:22,784 because he had heard they were going to come for us. 395 00:28:25,036 --> 00:28:26,746 I was terrified. 396 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,332 Everybody was terrified. 397 00:28:39,467 --> 00:28:42,512 He took us in the middle of the night out to the farm. 398 00:28:42,595 --> 00:28:45,640 He was one of very few, but he really went out of his way. 399 00:28:45,723 --> 00:28:48,017 I mean, c'mon, getting us in the middle of the night. 400 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,353 We were on a truck! 401 00:28:51,729 --> 00:28:54,107 All it was, was a tarp on the outside. 402 00:28:55,358 --> 00:28:57,152 Don't raise that tarp. 403 00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:47,160 - Good morning! - Hi. 404 00:29:47,243 --> 00:29:48,870 Good to see you. 405 00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:50,580 Thank you. I'm sorry we're late. 406 00:29:50,663 --> 00:29:51,623 - My wife - Hello. 407 00:29:51,706 --> 00:29:53,208 - Hello. - Good morning! 408 00:29:54,209 --> 00:29:55,668 How are you this morning? 409 00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:57,712 - Good. - Good! Good. 410 00:30:06,763 --> 00:30:08,848 We were hiding out on the farm. 411 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,601 And if it wasn't for Schmidt, 412 00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:14,729 I don't know where we would have wound up. 413 00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:19,192 He and his wife opened their farm to us. 414 00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:27,575 They had a laundry house where we kids slept. 415 00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:29,619 This was our home. 416 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:32,247 This is the plan from... 417 00:30:33,581 --> 00:30:35,833 - From 1948. - Yes. 418 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:38,878 - Wow! - It's a small sink. 419 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,218 I think it's only three to four meters here, 420 00:30:45,301 --> 00:30:46,928 - on the front side. - That's really not... 421 00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:49,597 Three to four... 35 is not big 422 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:53,726 That's a bit bigger than a king size bed. 423 00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:56,854 - Wow! Yes. - You know, that's not much. 424 00:30:56,938 --> 00:30:58,856 No, it's not. 425 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:00,984 Now, what we had, 426 00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:03,570 this room that we were in didn't have a stove. 427 00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:04,988 I don't know how we ever cooked. 428 00:31:05,071 --> 00:31:07,907 We never washed clothes. We never took a bath. 429 00:31:07,991 --> 00:31:10,451 Oh! We were full of lice, no! 430 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,495 We didn't do that. 431 00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:22,046 We worked there on the farm, you know. 432 00:31:23,631 --> 00:31:25,592 Alfons had to dig up, you know, 433 00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:28,011 the garbage from the latrines, 434 00:31:29,304 --> 00:31:31,556 and that's how they fed the fields. 435 00:31:32,056 --> 00:31:34,350 And once I asked him, "It didn't bother you?" 436 00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:37,854 He said, "No, this is what you gotta do!" 437 00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:43,860 We were always afraid of strangers, 438 00:31:43,943 --> 00:31:45,403 always hungry. 439 00:31:45,778 --> 00:31:49,782 I remember being out in the field digging for potatoes 440 00:31:50,283 --> 00:31:54,329 and always, um... Maybe the word is "suspicious," 441 00:31:55,121 --> 00:31:58,374 not knowing who those people were, 442 00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:01,628 and whether they were going to report us 443 00:32:01,711 --> 00:32:03,254 or tell on us. 444 00:32:04,714 --> 00:32:07,717 Let's go take a look at this shed, 445 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,844 or what was the Schmidt's house. 446 00:32:09,927 --> 00:32:11,804 Yes. 447 00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:19,020 The Schmidts was not there very often, 448 00:32:19,854 --> 00:32:22,523 maybe like once a week or every third week. 449 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:23,816 I don't know. 450 00:32:23,858 --> 00:32:25,276 He probably came for the produce 451 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,944 and took it back into Berlin. 452 00:32:27,945 --> 00:32:29,864 I think I remember his wife. 453 00:32:29,947 --> 00:32:33,326 She was there, but I didn't have much to do with her. 454 00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:38,206 I think Frau Schmidt was not thrilled that we were there. 455 00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:39,957 You know, she was afraid. 456 00:32:40,041 --> 00:32:42,669 His wife was a little standoffish, 457 00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:46,255 but she went along with whatever he said or did. 458 00:32:47,006 --> 00:32:49,300 There was never an argument there. 459 00:32:49,842 --> 00:32:51,844 She made sure 460 00:32:52,553 --> 00:32:56,391 that we needed sheets or a blanket or stuff, 461 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:58,518 she was there to provide it. 462 00:32:59,185 --> 00:33:02,689 And that was very, very important to us. 463 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:20,581 As the de facto town historian, 464 00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:24,627 Marlis Schuler had learned that Paula and Arthur Schmidt's actions 465 00:33:24,711 --> 00:33:27,213 were a closely held secret. 466 00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:30,883 Arthur Schmidt had two sons, 467 00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:34,387 and even though years went by after the war 468 00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:37,181 he took his heroism to the grave, 469 00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:40,309 never telling them what he had done. 470 00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:06,669 The mayor Rudi Fehrmann, 471 00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:10,173 knew that we were seven Jewish children 472 00:34:11,507 --> 00:34:13,384 living in hiding, 473 00:34:13,968 --> 00:34:18,473 and he did not tell the rest of the village who we were. 474 00:34:19,682 --> 00:34:21,893 He protected us. 475 00:34:23,352 --> 00:34:26,105 Oh! Rudi Fehrmann's grandson! 476 00:34:26,606 --> 00:34:29,233 Yay! 477 00:34:30,318 --> 00:34:31,903 - Hello! - Hello. 478 00:34:31,986 --> 00:34:34,071 - My name is Beth. - Rudi. 479 00:34:34,155 --> 00:34:36,240 - Rudolf. - You're Rudolf? 480 00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:37,950 Rudolf the Third? 481 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:40,912 It’s wonderful to meet you. 482 00:34:40,995 --> 00:34:44,624 Did you know about this story before this week? 483 00:34:44,707 --> 00:34:48,085 - I did, a little bit. - Mm-hm. 484 00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:16,364 My biggest question would be 485 00:35:17,031 --> 00:35:18,741 why did Rudi Fehrmann 486 00:35:18,825 --> 00:35:23,371 and Arthur and Paula Schmidt decide to shelter us? 487 00:35:24,121 --> 00:35:26,165 Putting their lives at risk 488 00:35:26,249 --> 00:35:28,459 because had they been discovered, 489 00:35:28,543 --> 00:35:31,087 they would surely have been killed. 490 00:35:52,525 --> 00:35:53,568 Yeah. 491 00:35:53,651 --> 00:35:54,902 You listening to Marlon Craft? 492 00:35:56,028 --> 00:35:57,280 Which two? 493 00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:05,079 - That's him? - Yup. 494 00:36:06,038 --> 00:36:07,290 Do you live here? 495 00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:08,891 Yeah. 496 00:36:10,167 --> 00:36:11,878 So you just come to hang out here? 497 00:36:11,961 --> 00:36:13,296 Oh, that's nice! 498 00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:17,967 Sure! 499 00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:21,846 So my mother is the youngest of seven Jewish children. 500 00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:26,309 They first lived a block over, at 31 Grenadierstrasse. 501 00:36:26,392 --> 00:36:29,061 And then they moved here to 48 Dragonerstrasse 502 00:36:29,687 --> 00:36:32,648 and these two Christian farmers hid them for two years, 503 00:36:32,732 --> 00:36:35,693 outside of Berlin during World War II. 504 00:36:35,776 --> 00:36:38,362 I think about what these farmers did for my mother, 505 00:36:38,446 --> 00:36:41,616 and her siblings, and I think, well, my gosh, 506 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:45,453 you know, if this were to happen again, 507 00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:47,663 would you hide me? 508 00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:52,627 I would like to say yes, 509 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:55,421 and I hope that I would make that decision in the moment, 510 00:36:55,504 --> 00:36:57,465 but you never know. 511 00:36:58,549 --> 00:37:00,343 I think I would do it. You know? 512 00:37:01,052 --> 00:37:02,637 Because... 513 00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:08,768 I have a family here now. 514 00:37:08,851 --> 00:37:12,897 And I'm so grateful for that because, you know, 515 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:15,483 it could also happen to me. 516 00:37:28,037 --> 00:37:31,082 As the war continued, Papa stayed in Berlin 517 00:37:31,165 --> 00:37:33,709 while we were at our hideaway on the farm. 518 00:37:35,169 --> 00:37:36,963 Surrendering to Nazi pressure, 519 00:37:37,046 --> 00:37:39,882 he had resigned from the Jewish community. 520 00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:44,637 So, not only was he able to get a job, 521 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,765 but as a non-Jew, he could more easily acquire food, 522 00:37:48,307 --> 00:37:51,936 which he would sometimes bring to us in Worin. 523 00:37:53,479 --> 00:37:58,401 One day, our local police station in Berlin gave Papa a letter. 524 00:38:01,487 --> 00:38:03,906 They had the guts to send a telegram saying 525 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:06,409 that she died of a heart attack, 526 00:38:07,034 --> 00:38:09,203 if you can believe that. I... 527 00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:11,205 Who were we to dispute it? 528 00:38:11,288 --> 00:38:13,499 She might have died of a heart attack! 529 00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:16,585 I mean, the conditions in the concentration camps, 530 00:38:16,669 --> 00:38:18,921 horrible, just horrible. 531 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,512 She died in Auschwitz. 532 00:38:39,734 --> 00:38:41,902 I was three years old. 533 00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,072 Well, I remember being alone 534 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:48,242 and playing out in the farm, 535 00:38:48,784 --> 00:38:51,954 the farmland, on the field by myself. 536 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:57,668 And even saying to my sister Gertrude, 537 00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:00,087 "Why am I always so alone?" 538 00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:07,094 She would always say... 539 00:39:09,346 --> 00:39:12,224 Even though I was there, she felt alone. 540 00:39:15,352 --> 00:39:18,647 I think part of that aloneness 541 00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:21,358 was missing my mother. 542 00:39:28,824 --> 00:39:30,618 She should have lived, 543 00:39:31,118 --> 00:39:33,496 'cause she helped so many people. 544 00:39:35,956 --> 00:39:38,834 I felt guilty, so guilty. 545 00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:42,755 And I think even to this day, I still feel guilty. 546 00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:46,425 I'm alive, I'm almost 90 years old, 547 00:39:46,509 --> 00:39:48,677 and she's long gone. 548 00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:50,554 Oh. 549 00:40:03,943 --> 00:40:05,653 It's here! 550 00:40:08,656 --> 00:40:10,574 Moabit Freight Station 551 00:40:10,658 --> 00:40:13,702 was the biggest deportation station in Berlin. 552 00:40:15,287 --> 00:40:17,289 About 30,000 people were deported from 553 00:40:17,373 --> 00:40:20,251 platforms 69, 81, and 82. 554 00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:24,171 Only a few survived. 555 00:40:25,548 --> 00:40:28,968 All that remains today are fragments of platform 69. 556 00:41:14,013 --> 00:41:15,848 After she was killed, 557 00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:19,018 my father said we had to go be baptized. 558 00:41:19,643 --> 00:41:22,229 So, one night, we came back to Berlin. 559 00:41:25,024 --> 00:41:28,944 Alexander took all the children to Berlin, 560 00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:31,071 even the small one. 561 00:41:31,614 --> 00:41:34,491 That would have been extremely dangerous. 562 00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:36,744 It seemed strange at the time, 563 00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:39,079 but we didn't mind goin' back and forth. 564 00:41:39,163 --> 00:41:42,208 It was fun riding in the back of a truck. 565 00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:44,627 I kept wishing that something would happen, 566 00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:47,213 so that this should not take place 567 00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:51,634 'cause I knew that my mother would have been totally against it. 568 00:41:52,801 --> 00:41:56,388 Papa told me that the Gestapo had released us from the hospital 569 00:41:56,472 --> 00:41:59,808 under the condition that we would be baptized. 570 00:41:59,892 --> 00:42:02,770 So like it or not, this had to be done. 571 00:42:22,748 --> 00:42:27,169 The nuns made us our clothes, the white dresses and all that. 572 00:42:29,338 --> 00:42:31,757 Senta was enamored of it. 573 00:42:32,508 --> 00:42:33,259 Me? 574 00:42:33,342 --> 00:42:36,220 I went through the motions. I thought it was a big joke. 575 00:42:41,767 --> 00:42:44,144 How it came about, I don't know. 576 00:42:44,228 --> 00:42:45,980 I don't know if they used that as a threat. 577 00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:49,149 That if we didn't, or just who did it. 578 00:42:49,942 --> 00:42:54,029 But I have to believe that it did help us, you know. 579 00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:01,328 Oh, my. 580 00:43:33,694 --> 00:43:35,904 Can you hold it? From this side? 581 00:43:37,072 --> 00:43:38,490 - Yeah, just... - Oh, look, here! 582 00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:40,284 - Oh, my gosh! Here's more. - Yes, yes, yes! 583 00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:41,952 - Here's the family! - It's the register. 584 00:43:42,036 --> 00:43:45,247 Alfons, Senta, Ruth, Gertrude, Renee, Judith, and Bela! 585 00:43:45,331 --> 00:43:46,915 And here you see the numbers? 586 00:43:48,667 --> 00:43:51,003 And those numbers refer to the other book 587 00:43:51,086 --> 00:43:53,255 - with further information. - Oh! 588 00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:05,517 - Oh, my gosh. - Weber! 589 00:44:07,895 --> 00:44:09,229 Mm-hm. 590 00:44:09,313 --> 00:44:10,731 Veronika! 591 00:44:11,523 --> 00:44:16,070 My mother, when she was adopted, they named her Virginia. 592 00:44:16,153 --> 00:44:18,864 I have a memory of when I was a young girl, 593 00:44:18,947 --> 00:44:22,201 my mother told me that she didn't like the name Virginia. 594 00:44:22,284 --> 00:44:24,370 - She never liked that name, - Uh-huh. 595 00:44:24,453 --> 00:44:29,124 And she always wished that her name was something like "Veronika." 596 00:44:39,426 --> 00:44:40,928 Maybe we'll call her and tell her. 597 00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:43,389 Should we call her? I can call her right now. 598 00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:45,182 Hi! 599 00:44:45,265 --> 00:44:47,684 I want to introduce you to Matthias. 600 00:44:47,768 --> 00:44:49,144 This is my mother, Ginger. 601 00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:51,480 - Hello. - Hello. 602 00:44:51,563 --> 00:44:55,692 We are in the office of the Catholic Church 603 00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:57,778 where you were baptized. 604 00:44:57,861 --> 00:44:58,946 Okay. 605 00:44:59,029 --> 00:45:01,532 This is the ledger 606 00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:06,578 that has all of your names written. 607 00:45:06,662 --> 00:45:09,248 Okay. Uh-huh. 608 00:45:09,998 --> 00:45:12,000 And so here's Alfons... 609 00:45:14,378 --> 00:45:15,796 - and Senta - Uh-huh. 610 00:45:16,713 --> 00:45:18,590 - And Ruth. - Oh, my God. 611 00:45:19,716 --> 00:45:20,717 Yeah? 612 00:45:21,802 --> 00:45:23,053 And Gertrude? 613 00:45:24,805 --> 00:45:26,014 Yeah. 614 00:45:29,309 --> 00:45:30,477 Renee? 615 00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:33,021 Oh! 616 00:45:33,105 --> 00:45:34,815 Oh, my God, Judith. 617 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:37,359 Yup. 618 00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:39,736 Oh! 619 00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:42,364 How in the world did you ever find... 620 00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:43,866 Veronika! 621 00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:46,618 I always knew my name was Veronika! 622 00:45:47,161 --> 00:45:48,454 Oh, my God. 623 00:45:50,247 --> 00:45:51,665 Can you believe it? 624 00:45:52,291 --> 00:45:54,793 Your middle name is Veronika! 625 00:45:56,170 --> 00:45:58,714 I always knew it was! 626 00:45:59,214 --> 00:46:01,133 That's amazing! 627 00:46:01,216 --> 00:46:03,760 Can you describe how you feel right now? 628 00:46:05,304 --> 00:46:07,514 A little overwhelmed. 629 00:46:08,223 --> 00:46:09,224 Yeah. 630 00:46:17,816 --> 00:46:19,067 I love you. 631 00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:22,070 - Bye. - Bye. 632 00:47:23,298 --> 00:47:27,135 After our baptism, Arthur Schmidt returned us 633 00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:31,557 to his fruit orchard in Worin, where we continued to hide. 634 00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:36,270 But while we were staying out at the farm, 635 00:47:36,353 --> 00:47:39,731 we received no news about the war. 636 00:47:40,983 --> 00:47:44,319 Towards the very end we could hear the Russians. 637 00:47:45,279 --> 00:47:47,656 You could hear, boy, when they would drop those bombs. 638 00:47:47,739 --> 00:47:49,408 You could actually hear that from Worin? 639 00:47:49,491 --> 00:47:50,576 Oh, yeah. 640 00:47:50,659 --> 00:47:53,787 You hear it, the planes going overhead. 641 00:47:54,162 --> 00:47:57,499 They kept coming and coming and coming, endlessly. 642 00:47:57,583 --> 00:48:00,377 You hear this constant drone of airplanes. 643 00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:13,307 The Battle of Seelow Heights was the biggest battle on German ground 644 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:15,309 at the end of World War II. 645 00:48:17,769 --> 00:48:21,898 When the Red Army started their attack, 646 00:48:22,524 --> 00:48:26,236 their attacks, their so-called Operation Berlin, 647 00:48:27,696 --> 00:48:33,910 on the first day, they shot 1.2 million shells 648 00:48:33,994 --> 00:48:35,454 in one day. 649 00:48:35,996 --> 00:48:39,833 The 16th of April, 1945. 650 00:48:41,835 --> 00:48:44,087 When they heard in Worin, 651 00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:48,258 that never-stopping "Boom, boom, boom," 652 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,555 of these 30,000 guns, 653 00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:57,684 they realized, "Oh, now it is time to go." 654 00:48:58,352 --> 00:48:59,811 "Now it's time to go." 655 00:49:02,898 --> 00:49:05,025 I was out in the field 656 00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:08,445 and talking to farmers and they told me, 657 00:49:09,237 --> 00:49:11,156 and they told me, "Get home. The Russians are coming. 658 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,700 They'll rape anything in sight!" 659 00:49:14,326 --> 00:49:16,286 Which they did, by the way. 660 00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,956 So I got back to the farm and there was nobody there, 661 00:49:20,290 --> 00:49:21,541 nobody. 662 00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:26,129 My brother and sisters, the Schmidts, they were gone. 663 00:49:26,213 --> 00:49:27,839 He had put them in the truck 664 00:49:27,923 --> 00:49:30,050 and they were racing towards Berlin. 665 00:49:30,133 --> 00:49:32,094 So, I was there all alone! 666 00:49:34,513 --> 00:49:36,473 There was a bike there. 667 00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:40,185 I broke the lock on the bike 668 00:49:40,936 --> 00:49:43,021 and whatever food I had scrounged up, 669 00:49:43,105 --> 00:49:46,733 I put behind me on the bike and I started pedaling. 670 00:49:51,071 --> 00:49:54,241 We were 60 kilometers outside of Berlin. 671 00:49:54,616 --> 00:49:57,703 And, you know, the strangest thing happened on the way. 672 00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:03,667 The planes flew overhead, 673 00:50:04,209 --> 00:50:05,877 they were dropping bombs. 674 00:50:07,045 --> 00:50:10,090 There was one bomb that went off in back of me! 675 00:50:10,674 --> 00:50:13,719 I remember flying through the air into the ditch 676 00:50:14,594 --> 00:50:17,723 and the bike landed on top of me. 677 00:50:18,348 --> 00:50:19,725 But I was fine. 678 00:50:20,016 --> 00:50:21,393 I was absolutely fine. 679 00:50:21,476 --> 00:50:23,729 I kept thinking that God took his hand 680 00:50:23,812 --> 00:50:25,897 and pushed me into that ditch! 681 00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:29,276 I got back on the bike and I started pedaling again. 682 00:51:12,652 --> 00:51:14,738 When I got to Berlin, 683 00:51:16,448 --> 00:51:20,410 I'm walking down the street to Dragonerstrasse, 684 00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:24,331 pushing the bike because the tires were shot from all the glass. 685 00:51:25,332 --> 00:51:27,167 My father and my brother 686 00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:30,337 and sisters were all lined up across the street, 687 00:51:31,588 --> 00:51:34,800 and my father said to me, "You're supposed to be dead! 688 00:51:34,883 --> 00:51:36,802 Why are you not dead?" 689 00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:41,765 I just looked at him. I stuttered... 690 00:51:43,683 --> 00:51:45,602 "I'm not dead." 691 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:48,980 I think he was in shock. 692 00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:52,067 You know, how much can a man take? 693 00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:54,528 So... 694 00:52:00,575 --> 00:52:05,956 After we got back to Berlin, the air raids became more severe. 695 00:52:11,127 --> 00:52:13,547 Papa was skilled with radios, 696 00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:17,759 and he found out that Germany's main radio station went off the air 697 00:52:17,843 --> 00:52:20,136 before an air raid took place. 698 00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:28,186 This gave us warning well before the sirens actually sounded the alarm. 699 00:52:30,730 --> 00:52:34,276 We would take shelter in the cellar of our house, 700 00:52:34,359 --> 00:52:36,862 Dragonerstrasse No. 48, 701 00:52:37,654 --> 00:52:41,324 until one day a single small Russian plane 702 00:52:41,408 --> 00:52:44,244 dropped a bomb into our house. 703 00:52:44,744 --> 00:52:46,997 It was a direct hit. 704 00:52:49,791 --> 00:52:53,420 We were trapped in the basement from the bomb. 705 00:52:55,463 --> 00:52:58,091 Papa woke us up to move the rubble 706 00:52:58,174 --> 00:52:59,843 to get us out of there. 707 00:53:01,636 --> 00:53:03,346 I don't think we would have made it. 708 00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:06,474 But Schmidt, with somebody else, 709 00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:08,435 was digging on the other side. 710 00:53:09,477 --> 00:53:11,855 And that's how they got us out. 711 00:53:19,738 --> 00:53:22,866 And so Schmidt said, "Come in our basement." 712 00:53:23,575 --> 00:53:26,745 Everybody in the building stayed there. 713 00:53:28,288 --> 00:53:32,000 At first they didn't want us because we were Jews. 714 00:53:32,792 --> 00:53:33,919 They were afraid. 715 00:53:34,294 --> 00:53:36,546 But he then said, "I don't care if they're Jews, 716 00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:38,423 they're coming in my basement." 717 00:53:45,221 --> 00:53:49,059 Civilians had not so much information. 718 00:53:49,142 --> 00:53:52,479 All of the Soviet troops were going to Berlin 719 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,482 and fighting there was very, very cruel 720 00:53:55,565 --> 00:53:56,942 and very, very dangerous. 721 00:53:59,736 --> 00:54:02,072 The war became more desperate. 722 00:54:02,155 --> 00:54:06,034 House-to-house fighting raged, 723 00:54:06,117 --> 00:54:10,163 getting even closer to our section, the Scheunenviertel. 724 00:54:11,873 --> 00:54:15,001 My father said, "We're going down, underground, 725 00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:17,921 to the U-Bahn, because it's not safe to be above." 726 00:54:18,546 --> 00:54:21,591 And we were there maybe a day and a night, 727 00:54:21,675 --> 00:54:24,886 and then the next day my father said, 728 00:54:25,637 --> 00:54:28,598 "We gotta run. We gotta get out of here, now!" 729 00:54:29,140 --> 00:54:34,062 Turns out the Germans had flooded the U-Bahn. 730 00:54:35,146 --> 00:54:37,774 My father heard the water rushing. 731 00:54:38,566 --> 00:54:40,151 He knew what had happened. 732 00:54:41,069 --> 00:54:43,405 Many of the people didn't make it out. 733 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,367 But we ran outside and we were safe. 734 00:54:58,128 --> 00:55:00,672 Berlin, the once mighty fortress of Nazi Germany, 735 00:55:00,755 --> 00:55:02,549 now feels the final blows, 736 00:55:02,632 --> 00:55:05,260 on every side the last ditch centers the fanatic resistance 737 00:55:05,343 --> 00:55:07,721 are hemmed in, hopelessly beaten. 738 00:55:07,804 --> 00:55:09,556 The end has come. 739 00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:13,810 This is a solemn, but glorious hour. 740 00:55:13,893 --> 00:55:16,855 "Truman Announces Total Surrender" is August 15th. 741 00:55:16,938 --> 00:55:19,774 The forces of Germany have surrendered 742 00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:21,818 to the United Nations. 743 00:55:22,610 --> 00:55:26,239 The flags of freedom fly all over Europe. 744 00:55:30,243 --> 00:55:31,610 It was in the summer, I believe, 745 00:55:31,661 --> 00:55:35,665 that Americans, as well as French and British troops, 746 00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:38,710 came to occupy their respective sectors. 747 00:55:39,753 --> 00:55:42,047 We were in the Russian sector. 748 00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:46,760 My memory of my father 749 00:55:46,843 --> 00:55:51,473 was standing on the street, between his legs kind of hiding 750 00:55:51,556 --> 00:55:56,227 and seeing the Russian soldiers marching down the street, 751 00:55:58,229 --> 00:56:00,440 which was a very frightening time. 752 00:56:02,609 --> 00:56:06,279 When the Russians came, they wanted girls. 753 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:09,115 They dragged me up the stairs 754 00:56:10,116 --> 00:56:12,660 and my father told them, "Look, she doesn't even have breasts. 755 00:56:12,744 --> 00:56:15,622 What do you want with her? She's just a child!" 756 00:56:17,207 --> 00:56:20,418 And the head of the group that was there, 757 00:56:20,502 --> 00:56:23,713 he took one look at me and he said, "Well, you're right." 758 00:56:23,797 --> 00:56:27,759 Gave me a shove and I went like that back around the stairs, 759 00:56:27,842 --> 00:56:30,386 so I was not taken by the Russians. 760 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:32,055 But Senta was. 761 00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:36,893 They brought her back two days later, 762 00:56:37,393 --> 00:56:39,145 she was hemorrhaging. 763 00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:49,072 The Russians weren't much better than the Germans, 764 00:56:49,614 --> 00:56:52,659 and our father wanted to get us out. 765 00:56:53,368 --> 00:56:57,413 But trying to get a visa was pretty difficult. 766 00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:00,917 Bela and I, I took her 767 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,628 and went to the Joint Distribution 768 00:57:05,046 --> 00:57:08,007 and they were all Americans there. 769 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:14,597 I remember sitting there for hours, waiting. 770 00:57:15,849 --> 00:57:17,684 And Ruth was very determined. 771 00:57:18,476 --> 00:57:19,978 She talked to them 772 00:57:20,061 --> 00:57:23,565 and she started the ball rolling about getting us out. 773 00:57:26,025 --> 00:57:28,403 Ruth met with Herr Eisenberg. 774 00:57:28,903 --> 00:57:31,906 He explained that to emigrate to America, 775 00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:35,285 we would have to enter a displaced persons camp. 776 00:57:35,743 --> 00:57:39,414 But having a living father of German nationality 777 00:57:39,497 --> 00:57:43,084 would bar us from entry, so we lied. 778 00:57:43,585 --> 00:57:46,004 We pretended our father was dead, 779 00:57:46,087 --> 00:57:49,048 and declared ourselves as orphans. 780 00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:52,385 It wasn't easy, but I think I was numb. 781 00:57:53,052 --> 00:57:56,097 I mean, you learned to lie to survive. 782 00:57:57,182 --> 00:58:00,226 And when we left my father, 783 00:58:00,310 --> 00:58:04,647 he said, "Ruth, keep all of you together 784 00:58:04,731 --> 00:58:06,733 "no matter what happens. 785 00:58:07,567 --> 00:58:09,694 "You do not separate." 786 00:58:09,819 --> 00:58:11,529 And that stuck with me. 787 00:58:15,575 --> 00:58:19,412 After that, the Joint Distribution came 788 00:58:19,495 --> 00:58:22,749 and got us late in the evening 789 00:58:23,666 --> 00:58:25,168 because by then already, 790 00:58:25,251 --> 00:58:30,006 the Russians wouldn't let any Jews go into the American zone. 791 00:58:30,506 --> 00:58:33,218 But they came with the Jeep, 792 00:58:33,343 --> 00:58:37,222 put us all in the back of the Jeep, threw a blanket over us, 793 00:58:37,764 --> 00:58:39,307 and off we went! 794 00:58:41,226 --> 00:58:43,895 We traveled in a truck by convoy 795 00:58:43,978 --> 00:58:46,773 through the Russian zone of occupation. 796 00:58:47,565 --> 00:58:51,444 When we got to the place where the Russians stop you, 797 00:58:51,527 --> 00:58:54,530 the first thing they want to know is how many Jews? 798 00:58:54,614 --> 00:58:57,700 And the guy, the driver said, "We don't have any Jews here." 799 00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:00,745 They were still hunting Jews. 800 00:59:05,291 --> 00:59:08,544 All the GIs went with the Russians in their office, 801 00:59:08,628 --> 00:59:10,380 they got 'em drunk. 802 00:59:10,964 --> 00:59:12,840 In the meantime, the driver told us, 803 00:59:12,924 --> 00:59:16,719 "Get off the truck and walk across, 804 00:59:17,553 --> 00:59:20,473 and we will pick you up on the other side." 805 00:59:22,809 --> 00:59:26,688 But it was winter and cold and full of snow, 806 00:59:27,272 --> 00:59:30,775 and Bela was on Alfons's shoulder 807 00:59:30,858 --> 00:59:32,860 because she couldn't get through the snow! 808 00:59:32,944 --> 00:59:34,737 She was too little! 809 00:59:37,865 --> 00:59:38,700 Oh, God. 810 00:59:38,783 --> 00:59:41,202 I don't know whether it was an hour or two hours 811 00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:43,496 they finally came out. 812 00:59:44,163 --> 00:59:47,917 And they did. They came and got us on the other side. 813 00:59:50,336 --> 00:59:53,298 We crossed the intrazonal border at Helmstedt, 814 00:59:53,381 --> 00:59:55,758 on the way to Hanover. 815 00:59:55,842 --> 00:59:59,304 And from Hanover, we took a train to Munich. 816 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,434 Once we got into the American sector, 817 01:00:04,517 --> 01:00:06,311 the wheels started spinning. 818 01:00:11,107 --> 01:00:12,900 Then we get to Munich. 819 01:00:14,193 --> 01:00:16,904 The DP camp was huge! 820 01:00:22,243 --> 01:00:27,498 The Funkkaserne Camp held 2,952 DPs. 821 01:00:28,583 --> 01:00:32,795 Only one 143 of these were Jews. 822 01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:36,549 And it was not a comfortable place to be. 823 01:00:43,806 --> 01:00:47,352 We were in a big DP camp and they didn't keep us there too long. 824 01:00:47,435 --> 01:00:50,063 They decided it was no place for kids to be, 825 01:00:50,146 --> 01:00:52,648 and they shipped us off to a nunnery. 826 01:01:14,379 --> 01:01:17,173 - Good morning. - Good morning. 827 01:01:17,256 --> 01:01:19,008 - How are you? - How are you? 828 01:01:19,092 --> 01:01:22,428 We're back on the highway and we're driving to Indersdorf. 829 01:01:23,596 --> 01:01:25,181 Oh, what are you going to do there? 830 01:01:25,264 --> 01:01:27,100 Indersdorf, that sounds familiar. 831 01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:31,437 Because you were living in a displaced person's camp in Indersdorf. 832 01:01:32,438 --> 01:01:35,441 - Was it a nunnery? - Yes, it was a cloister. 833 01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:38,861 Oh, yeah! We were there maybe a month. 834 01:02:38,254 --> 01:02:42,592 This was strictly for children, this camp. 835 01:02:42,675 --> 01:02:43,968 Which was great! 836 01:02:44,051 --> 01:02:47,597 There must have been either 60 or 80 kids there, 837 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,890 refugee kids. 838 01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:55,938 Here we were given good food, medical care, 839 01:02:56,022 --> 01:02:58,858 clean rooms, and fresh clothing. 840 01:02:59,609 --> 01:03:01,194 I mean, when we first got there, 841 01:03:01,277 --> 01:03:05,156 I had a turban on me because I knew I had a lot of lice. 842 01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:07,909 Well, when they removed the turban, 843 01:03:07,992 --> 01:03:11,162 the woman went, "Ahh!" 844 01:03:12,538 --> 01:03:16,709 And immediately, they put me in an ambulance 845 01:03:16,792 --> 01:03:19,587 and sent me to an American hospital, 846 01:03:20,379 --> 01:03:21,964 because I was so infested, 847 01:03:22,048 --> 01:03:25,009 not just on my head, but all over my body. 848 01:03:36,729 --> 01:03:41,108 I know that you were not here when my mother was here, 849 01:03:41,192 --> 01:03:42,902 but hearing you sing, 850 01:03:43,486 --> 01:03:48,115 I can imagine what the nuns might've sounded like 851 01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:51,744 when they were singing lullabies to help my mother fall asleep. 852 01:03:51,827 --> 01:03:53,454 Yeah. 853 01:03:55,957 --> 01:03:59,710 The kids there were very suspicious of any newcomers, 854 01:03:59,794 --> 01:04:03,548 especially any who were Germans, such as ourselves. 855 01:04:04,048 --> 01:04:09,720 I had to demonstrate that I, and my sisters too, were Jewish! 856 01:04:10,763 --> 01:04:16,477 So, my test came when I had to answer a call of nature. 857 01:04:17,353 --> 01:04:21,607 Standing by the urinal, I noticed two very curious lads 858 01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:23,526 giving me a lookover. 859 01:04:24,151 --> 01:04:26,487 I willingly demonstrated to them 860 01:04:26,571 --> 01:04:29,740 that I was just as "tipped off" as they were. 861 01:04:30,157 --> 01:04:31,951 This was not a game. 862 01:04:32,618 --> 01:04:34,829 I was really a Jew. 863 01:04:42,503 --> 01:04:45,172 Here we are sitting at the very tables 864 01:04:45,256 --> 01:04:47,842 where they were having their meals. 865 01:04:47,925 --> 01:04:51,846 What the survivors, when they visit us today, always say, 866 01:04:51,929 --> 01:04:53,889 "We didn't look at the ceiling. 867 01:04:53,973 --> 01:04:55,766 "We looked at our food. 868 01:04:56,392 --> 01:04:59,520 "Because we had been so very hungry." 869 01:05:00,313 --> 01:05:03,649 So, Greta Fischer, the main chronicler of events, 870 01:05:04,483 --> 01:05:08,112 she says, "The first thing was to give them plenty of food, 871 01:05:08,738 --> 01:05:12,700 "and then listen to their stories, and listen and listen." 872 01:05:16,495 --> 01:05:19,290 And the Mother Superior, Sister De La Rosa, 873 01:05:19,373 --> 01:05:23,586 She was especially touched by the fate 874 01:05:23,669 --> 01:05:26,505 of the Weber siblings. 875 01:05:28,716 --> 01:05:31,302 Your mother was six years old, 876 01:05:31,385 --> 01:05:34,472 but she was almost starved to death. 877 01:05:34,972 --> 01:05:38,643 So she looked like a three-year-old when she was here. 878 01:05:40,227 --> 01:05:44,106 Ruth, the middle girl, was in charge of everything, 879 01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:45,816 of all the group. 880 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:52,740 And she says that the older Weber girl was very depressed. 881 01:05:56,327 --> 01:05:59,121 The impression of the nuns here was that 882 01:05:59,205 --> 01:06:02,500 she was in danger to commit suicide. 883 01:06:12,843 --> 01:06:16,639 These children somehow needed to become 884 01:06:16,722 --> 01:06:20,184 the masters of their experiences. 885 01:06:37,827 --> 01:06:41,372 Is bravery and courage something that can be learned? 886 01:06:41,455 --> 01:06:42,873 Or are you born with it? 887 01:06:57,138 --> 01:07:01,225 I think if you are so certain that you will behave correctly, 888 01:07:01,726 --> 01:07:03,853 then there's a big chance that you won't. 889 01:07:03,936 --> 01:07:09,900 A humble attitude not to know how I would behave 890 01:07:09,984 --> 01:07:13,028 is a better guarantee that you will do the right thing 891 01:07:13,112 --> 01:07:15,865 in a decisive situation. 892 01:07:25,374 --> 01:07:27,293 After four to six weeks, 893 01:07:27,376 --> 01:07:30,504 we were instructed to get ready for departure. 894 01:07:32,673 --> 01:07:36,969 And then we boarded a train for Bremerhaven. 895 01:07:54,403 --> 01:07:58,073 While in transit, I sent telegrams to Papa, 896 01:07:58,157 --> 01:08:00,576 telling him about our progress. 897 01:08:01,076 --> 01:08:04,371 He, in turn, sent me a telegram saying 898 01:08:04,455 --> 01:08:07,291 that he was ready to follow us shortly. 899 01:08:09,251 --> 01:08:12,087 Papa desperately tried to emigrate, 900 01:08:12,171 --> 01:08:15,007 and he explored every possibility. 901 01:08:16,258 --> 01:08:19,094 But all attempts came to nought. 902 01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:24,016 Papa was supposed to follow us within 10 days, 903 01:08:24,099 --> 01:08:25,267 and it never happened. 904 01:08:26,101 --> 01:08:28,103 So, that's why we left as orphans. 905 01:08:30,064 --> 01:08:33,776 We spent another week or two in a DP camp there 906 01:08:33,859 --> 01:08:36,403 and finally the day came 907 01:08:36,487 --> 01:08:41,075 when we boarded the ship, the S.S. Marine Flasher. 908 01:09:09,770 --> 01:09:12,064 We were lucky because they put us upstairs. 909 01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:14,400 My brother was supposed to be down below deck, 910 01:09:14,483 --> 01:09:17,611 but we said, "Oh, no, no, no. He can't be there; we sleep together." 911 01:09:17,695 --> 01:09:20,990 So, they finally consented; let him sleep with us in the same room. 912 01:09:22,491 --> 01:09:25,661 But still, the voyage was pretty rough, at times. 913 01:09:26,287 --> 01:09:28,080 I know Renee was always sick. 914 01:09:28,706 --> 01:09:30,833 I remember throwing up a lot. 915 01:09:31,584 --> 01:09:34,503 I remember, uh, oranges. 916 01:09:34,587 --> 01:09:36,505 We were eating oranges all the time. 917 01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:38,382 That's when we learned to say, 918 01:09:38,465 --> 01:09:40,134 "May I have an orange, please?" 919 01:09:40,217 --> 01:09:42,511 So, they would laugh, and sometimes they gave us one 920 01:09:42,595 --> 01:09:43,971 and sometimes they didn't. 921 01:09:44,054 --> 01:09:46,181 Us? Not so much. 922 01:09:46,765 --> 01:09:50,060 Bela? They would give all the oranges she came for! 923 01:09:50,144 --> 01:09:52,980 I don't care if it was five minutes or 10 minutes, 924 01:09:53,522 --> 01:09:55,608 she would go back and get more. 925 01:10:05,409 --> 01:10:07,870 I remember dancing on the captain's table. 926 01:10:08,412 --> 01:10:11,248 I remember Senta worked in the kitchen, 927 01:10:11,832 --> 01:10:15,336 and so she sort of befriended the kitchen crew. 928 01:10:20,382 --> 01:10:22,760 Here we were on a big ocean liner 929 01:10:23,427 --> 01:10:27,723 and the rumor was that whatever clothes they had given us, 930 01:10:27,806 --> 01:10:30,142 we had to pay duty on it. 931 01:10:30,976 --> 01:10:34,021 This was a rumor, but we believed it. 932 01:10:34,104 --> 01:10:36,398 I said to Alfons, "What are you going to do?" 933 01:10:36,482 --> 01:10:37,816 He says, "I don't know. 934 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:40,819 "We don't have any money, at all." 935 01:10:41,904 --> 01:10:46,575 So, Alfons and I went down in the bowels of the ship, 936 01:10:47,117 --> 01:10:50,246 and we talked a sailor into giving us a duffle bag. 937 01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:53,040 A duffle bag is huge! 938 01:10:53,123 --> 01:10:55,209 Well, we filled the thing up. 939 01:10:56,377 --> 01:10:59,338 And when it was late at night, 940 01:10:59,421 --> 01:11:01,590 we heaved the thing overboard. 941 01:11:02,841 --> 01:11:04,969 And when it hit the water, 942 01:11:05,052 --> 01:11:08,764 the guy up on top screamed, "Man overboard!" 943 01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:12,226 They stopped the ship. 944 01:11:13,686 --> 01:11:16,313 The guys came running with them long poles, 945 01:11:16,397 --> 01:11:17,898 where they had a hook on it, 946 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:20,776 to help whoever went in the water. 947 01:11:21,568 --> 01:11:24,279 They hooked onto the duffle bag, 948 01:11:24,363 --> 01:11:27,574 lifted it up and [laughs] it ripped! 949 01:11:29,243 --> 01:11:31,120 Clothes went everywhere! 950 01:11:31,203 --> 01:11:34,999 Alfons and I are sitting there laughing our heads off! 951 01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:36,875 It was so funny! 952 01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:40,421 But the captain was mad. Oh, my God, was he mad! 953 01:11:40,504 --> 01:11:42,423 We probably shouldn't have, but that's what we did. 954 01:11:42,506 --> 01:11:44,508 We were young and stupid. 955 01:11:57,855 --> 01:12:00,190 The night before we landed, okay, 956 01:12:00,274 --> 01:12:03,318 they told us we had to get up very early the next morning 957 01:12:03,402 --> 01:12:05,863 because we were gonna see something we never saw. 958 01:12:08,490 --> 01:12:09,491 What is it? 959 01:12:09,575 --> 01:12:12,453 This thing was standing there and everyone was so excited, 960 01:12:12,536 --> 01:12:15,080 but I wasn't excited. I didn't know what I was looking at! 961 01:12:17,082 --> 01:12:21,170 Then I remember thinking that the ship was going to capsize. 962 01:12:21,253 --> 01:12:24,173 Because we were all on one side. 963 01:12:29,887 --> 01:12:31,764 And then getting off the ship 964 01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:36,226 into this enormous warehouse on the dock. 965 01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:41,106 It was a very exciting prospect. 966 01:12:41,857 --> 01:12:43,692 We were coming to America! 967 01:12:53,285 --> 01:12:55,996 We were seven Jewish children 968 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,082 who came over here together. 969 01:12:58,165 --> 01:13:00,417 That's why we made every newspaper! 970 01:13:20,104 --> 01:13:21,313 When we disembarked, 971 01:13:21,396 --> 01:13:25,150 we were informed that we would be sent to Chicago. 972 01:13:38,622 --> 01:13:41,333 Arriving in Chicago on June 14, 973 01:13:42,209 --> 01:13:46,296 we were taken to the offices of the Jewish Children's Bureau. 974 01:13:49,424 --> 01:13:51,260 We were given ice cream, 975 01:13:51,343 --> 01:13:54,388 and sat for the obligatory photograph. 976 01:13:55,472 --> 01:13:58,600 In my mind, we would be together 977 01:13:58,684 --> 01:14:02,146 in an orphanage and kept together. 978 01:14:02,896 --> 01:14:05,357 Didn't happen that way at all. 979 01:14:09,444 --> 01:14:11,238 They put us in cabs. 980 01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:16,952 They didn't tell us anything. 981 01:14:17,536 --> 01:14:20,747 They just dropped us off at foster homes, 982 01:14:20,831 --> 01:14:22,624 one by one. 983 01:14:22,708 --> 01:14:24,918 We had two minutes to say goodbye. 984 01:14:27,754 --> 01:14:30,007 Alfons took us to the door 985 01:14:30,507 --> 01:14:31,717 and that was that. 986 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,260 I mean, did we cry? 987 01:14:33,343 --> 01:14:34,511 No. 988 01:14:34,595 --> 01:14:38,682 When they were going to drop me off, Alfons got sick. 989 01:14:39,516 --> 01:14:42,060 He threw up. He was so upset. 990 01:14:42,561 --> 01:14:46,106 They kept telling him, "Don't worry! She'll be fine! 991 01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:49,109 "She's with a very fine family." 992 01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:52,487 And I was just dropped off. 993 01:14:57,826 --> 01:14:59,620 It destroyed me. 994 01:14:59,703 --> 01:15:00,996 It really did. 995 01:15:01,580 --> 01:15:04,416 It totally, totally destroyed me. 996 01:15:05,459 --> 01:15:08,629 Because I couldn't keep my word to my father. 997 01:15:14,509 --> 01:15:18,222 For the first time ever, the family was broken up, 998 01:15:18,305 --> 01:15:21,558 scattered over different parts of Chicago. 999 01:15:25,020 --> 01:15:29,399 I was not allowed to see my sisters, except Bela. 1000 01:15:30,651 --> 01:15:32,694 So I would go see Bela. 1001 01:15:33,278 --> 01:15:36,323 She wound up with the Spiegels. 1002 01:15:37,157 --> 01:15:38,408 They loved Bela. 1003 01:15:38,492 --> 01:15:41,745 The thing is, they wanted to adopt her. 1004 01:15:43,413 --> 01:15:45,791 I didn't want her to be adopted. 1005 01:15:46,792 --> 01:15:48,961 She was my baby sister. 1006 01:15:50,963 --> 01:15:55,050 But they convinced me that was the best for her. 1007 01:15:56,468 --> 01:15:59,346 And my father wouldn't sign the papers 1008 01:16:01,139 --> 01:16:03,392 so I wrote him a nasty letter. 1009 01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:06,728 In no time at all, he wrote back 1010 01:16:06,812 --> 01:16:09,982 and gave the permission that she can be adopted. 1011 01:16:39,386 --> 01:16:42,306 They asked me if I wanted to be adopted. 1012 01:16:43,223 --> 01:16:44,308 They were good to me. 1013 01:16:44,391 --> 01:16:47,978 Why wouldn't I say, yes, I'll be adopted? 1014 01:16:48,061 --> 01:16:52,441 I didn't know any different. 1015 01:16:56,194 --> 01:17:00,407 Her case worker and the officials of the JCB 1016 01:17:01,074 --> 01:17:04,119 thought it best that all contacts between Bela 1017 01:17:04,202 --> 01:17:08,123 and the remainder of the family be terminated. 1018 01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:16,298 I didn't see her for years. 1019 01:17:17,132 --> 01:17:19,468 I finally, by accident, 1020 01:17:19,551 --> 01:17:22,346 I saw her standing there waiting for a bus 1021 01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:24,973 or a driver, I don't know. 1022 01:17:25,057 --> 01:17:27,726 But I walked up to her and I asked her. 1023 01:17:27,809 --> 01:17:30,771 I said, "Do you remember me? I'm your sister." 1024 01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:33,982 Well, evidently, I freaked her out, 1025 01:17:34,649 --> 01:17:37,736 because years had passed, you know, 1026 01:17:37,819 --> 01:17:40,947 and she, I think, put everything behind her. 1027 01:17:41,031 --> 01:17:44,326 I looked at her and I said... 1028 01:17:48,830 --> 01:17:50,374 No. I felt, I felt very funny 1029 01:17:50,457 --> 01:17:52,667 because I couldn't remember her name. 1030 01:17:53,668 --> 01:17:57,714 But I said something about 1031 01:17:58,632 --> 01:18:00,842 "I don't want to be sent back." 1032 01:18:00,926 --> 01:18:04,471 I had that instinctive feeling, "Oh, my God, she's coming." 1033 01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:07,265 I know it's part of my family. 1034 01:18:07,349 --> 01:18:09,935 And I don't want to be sent back to Germany. 1035 01:18:11,144 --> 01:18:15,065 That was our life, and I understood that. 1036 01:18:15,732 --> 01:18:18,568 The fear didn't go away overnight. 1037 01:18:19,111 --> 01:18:21,279 The fear stayed with you. 1038 01:18:23,490 --> 01:18:25,409 It was difficult. 1039 01:18:26,451 --> 01:18:29,287 So, for me, it was the right decision. 1040 01:18:33,875 --> 01:18:37,838 But, the fact that he gave up his rights to me, 1041 01:18:38,922 --> 01:18:44,845 was, of course, a profound act of selflessness 1042 01:18:45,971 --> 01:18:47,514 and generosity. 1043 01:19:01,403 --> 01:19:06,241 In 1951, regular immigration for Germans opened up. 1044 01:19:06,324 --> 01:19:10,871 Papa’s old dream of getting out of Germany was still very much alive. 1045 01:19:10,954 --> 01:19:14,332 However, despite Papa’s skill as an electrician, 1046 01:19:14,416 --> 01:19:16,501 he was denied entry. 1047 01:19:17,335 --> 01:19:20,046 In the meantime, Papa had remarried. 1048 01:19:20,130 --> 01:19:23,508 She was a widow with a daughter, the same age as Bela. 1049 01:19:24,384 --> 01:19:28,430 And there was a new child, our half-brother Harry. 1050 01:19:30,974 --> 01:19:36,062 In 1956, 10 years after we were separated, 1051 01:19:36,146 --> 01:19:39,107 Papa finally came to this country. 1052 01:19:46,156 --> 01:19:49,534 Judy at that time was working at the University of Chicago. 1053 01:19:49,618 --> 01:19:51,995 And she got him an interview. 1054 01:19:53,580 --> 01:19:56,791 They had gotten a piece of equipment from Germany, 1055 01:19:56,875 --> 01:19:58,126 so it was all in German. 1056 01:19:58,210 --> 01:20:00,337 And they needed someone that knew German. 1057 01:20:01,922 --> 01:20:04,424 So, sure enough, that was Papa. 1058 01:20:06,426 --> 01:20:08,678 Surviving the war, 1059 01:20:08,762 --> 01:20:12,349 being able to immigrate into the United States, 1060 01:20:13,016 --> 01:20:16,770 and starting an unbelievably good new life, 1061 01:20:17,771 --> 01:20:19,898 these are true miracles. 1062 01:20:22,108 --> 01:20:24,569 By that time already I was involved with my own child, 1063 01:20:24,653 --> 01:20:26,613 and he had his own life to live. 1064 01:20:26,696 --> 01:20:29,074 So, we saw him, but not that much. 1065 01:20:31,368 --> 01:20:33,286 I did not know at the time 1066 01:20:33,370 --> 01:20:37,541 that they lived on the South Side, Papa and his new wife. 1067 01:20:42,879 --> 01:20:45,090 Grandma and Grandpa Spiegel 1068 01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:47,551 and I had just left a Chinese restaurant 1069 01:20:47,634 --> 01:20:50,387 and we're walking down 71st Street, 1070 01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:53,765 and I see a man 1071 01:20:54,432 --> 01:20:58,895 and his wife and two children, a boy and a girl, 1072 01:20:58,979 --> 01:21:02,023 walking in the opposite direction. 1073 01:21:02,107 --> 01:21:04,609 And as we passed each other, 1074 01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:07,362 I remember looking at the man, 1075 01:21:08,196 --> 01:21:12,367 and then turning around and looking at him again. 1076 01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:14,244 And he was looking at me. 1077 01:21:15,245 --> 01:21:18,582 And so we stared at each other, but we never spoke. 1078 01:21:22,252 --> 01:21:27,007 I felt this tremendous loyalty to my American parents. 1079 01:21:28,967 --> 01:21:31,469 That's what kept me from reconnecting. 1080 01:21:37,225 --> 01:21:39,936 And then he died in 1970. 1081 01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:45,400 I hadn't seen him in almost 20 years. 1082 01:22:02,751 --> 01:22:05,337 You can come into our house. 1083 01:22:05,420 --> 01:22:07,631 We'd rather have you inside than outside. 1084 01:22:15,263 --> 01:22:19,893 In 1986, I had lunch with Mary Lawrence, 1085 01:22:19,976 --> 01:22:22,938 who was the director of the Jewish Children's Bureau, 1086 01:22:23,438 --> 01:22:27,776 and she asked me if I had contacted my birth family. 1087 01:22:28,485 --> 01:22:32,447 And I said, "No, I haven't talked to them in 40 years," 1088 01:22:32,906 --> 01:22:35,825 and she kind of said, "Well, it's about time!" 1089 01:22:36,451 --> 01:22:39,579 We are all together in one room after 40 years. 1090 01:22:40,163 --> 01:22:42,040 Each and every... all seven of us. 1091 01:22:42,123 --> 01:22:43,500 I called Gertrude, 1092 01:22:43,583 --> 01:22:45,710 'cause that was the only phone number I had. 1093 01:22:45,794 --> 01:22:47,379 I said "Manya." 1094 01:22:47,462 --> 01:22:49,547 - Oh, Manya. - That's all I said. 1095 01:22:49,631 --> 01:22:51,049 - Manya. - Yeah. 1096 01:22:51,132 --> 01:22:54,427 When I knew it was... Well, I could've died. 1097 01:22:54,511 --> 01:22:56,137 Oh! I could not believe my... 1098 01:22:56,221 --> 01:22:58,098 I could not believe that. 1099 01:22:58,181 --> 01:22:59,808 Who would expect somebody after... 1100 01:22:59,891 --> 01:23:01,768 It's like waking up from the dead. 1101 01:23:16,866 --> 01:23:20,328 Her response was an inhalation of breath. 1102 01:23:20,412 --> 01:23:24,791 She went [gasping], and then she said, "Why now?" 1103 01:23:24,874 --> 01:23:25,625 Why now? 1104 01:23:25,709 --> 01:23:26,793 Oh, my God, isn't that terrible? 1105 01:23:26,876 --> 01:23:29,212 I didn't even have a chance to tell you who I was! 1106 01:23:29,295 --> 01:23:31,798 - Yeah? - And what shocked me, 1107 01:23:31,881 --> 01:23:34,092 - was that you recognized my voice. - Recognized your voice. 1108 01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:35,510 - Right away. Immediately! - Yeah. Yeah. 1109 01:23:35,593 --> 01:23:38,054 Yeah, well, you were never out of my mind. 1110 01:23:38,138 --> 01:23:40,557 But then I never expected that to happen. 1111 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:41,433 Never. 1112 01:23:41,891 --> 01:23:44,978 Alfons, what does this day mean to you today? 1113 01:23:45,061 --> 01:23:49,023 It's an unbelievable experience for me, personally. 1114 01:24:12,589 --> 01:24:15,133 I'm the oldest of the girls, alright? 1115 01:24:15,216 --> 01:24:16,760 Everybody knows. 1116 01:24:16,843 --> 01:24:20,513 It's 40 years ago that we landed on these shores. 1117 01:24:20,597 --> 01:24:24,809 This is my husband, Bob, and it's a lucky day we met. 1118 01:24:25,894 --> 01:24:30,106 Isn't it wonderful that we're still here, together yet? 1119 01:24:31,775 --> 01:24:33,485 Judy, you can speak up. 1120 01:24:33,568 --> 01:24:35,820 C'mon, you're one of the family, remember? 1121 01:24:35,904 --> 01:24:38,281 She's here all the way from Arlington, Texas. 1122 01:24:38,364 --> 01:24:41,618 I have nothing to say except that I am overwhelmed. 1123 01:24:42,202 --> 01:24:44,496 - That's it. - That's it? 1124 01:24:44,579 --> 01:24:47,832 Boy, you're so overwhelmed she clammed up like a shell! 1125 01:24:47,916 --> 01:24:49,876 I'm very very happy to be here. 1126 01:24:49,959 --> 01:24:52,754 I really am. I'm quite overwhelmed. 1127 01:24:53,254 --> 01:24:54,631 And... 1128 01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:56,174 Oh, yes! 1129 01:24:56,257 --> 01:24:58,510 I'm the oldest redhead in the family and here's the baby. 1130 01:24:58,593 --> 01:24:59,594 Take over. 1131 01:25:08,728 --> 01:25:10,688 Ginger! 1132 01:25:10,772 --> 01:25:12,148 You're on, kid. 1133 01:25:14,150 --> 01:25:17,403 It's sort of the culmination of 1134 01:25:19,113 --> 01:25:21,741 40 or almost 50 years, really, 1135 01:25:22,283 --> 01:25:24,744 of family history, 1136 01:25:26,579 --> 01:25:32,794 and it is remarkable that we can all be together 1137 01:25:33,294 --> 01:25:35,338 and laugh and cry... 1138 01:25:36,297 --> 01:25:37,549 Uh... 1139 01:25:38,132 --> 01:25:39,634 and love each other. 1140 01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:41,803 So, I'm very grateful 1141 01:25:42,387 --> 01:25:44,430 for the opportunities that we've had. 1142 01:25:52,605 --> 01:25:56,067 When we were children in Germany growing up, 1143 01:25:57,193 --> 01:26:00,530 I don't recall knowing aunts or uncles 1144 01:26:00,613 --> 01:26:03,950 or having a big family nucleus. 1145 01:26:04,033 --> 01:26:06,995 It was just our parents and us. 1146 01:26:08,121 --> 01:26:12,125 And what warms me today is here we are, seven. 1147 01:26:12,667 --> 01:26:15,837 We all have children. There's husbands. 1148 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,799 And we've gotten very... I mean, it just mushroomed! 1149 01:26:20,967 --> 01:26:23,720 It's become a very large family. 1150 01:26:23,803 --> 01:26:25,680 Who's gonna make a toast, Sherwin? 1151 01:26:25,763 --> 01:26:28,641 - How about you! - Alfons, man of the world! 1152 01:26:33,021 --> 01:26:34,689 L'chaim! 1153 01:26:36,524 --> 01:26:39,485 Now maybe we can take one picture of all seven together! 1154 01:26:39,569 --> 01:26:42,030 Don't lift it so high, my goodness. 1155 01:26:42,113 --> 01:26:43,239 We know you got... 1156 01:26:43,323 --> 01:26:45,658 That's the reason it's sitting right there. 1157 01:26:45,742 --> 01:26:48,828 - Oh, yes, sing. - It's not gonna bite you! 1158 01:26:48,912 --> 01:26:51,497 It's not gonna bite you, right! 1159 01:26:58,588 --> 01:27:02,050 What is Unbreakable, dear Lina, 1160 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,762 is our family’s fertile thread. 1161 01:27:11,976 --> 01:27:14,854 To witness this miracle 1162 01:27:15,229 --> 01:27:18,483 is to show you how we have survived 1163 01:27:21,778 --> 01:27:24,447 We listen for your laughter. 1164 01:27:24,530 --> 01:27:27,992 We hold your heart in ours. 1165 01:27:28,785 --> 01:27:31,537 We are dancing together 1166 01:27:31,621 --> 01:27:34,749 deep in the belly of your soul. 1167 01:27:38,628 --> 01:27:41,547 In all our souls. 1168 01:27:43,549 --> 01:27:45,176 - Hi! - Hey! How are you? 1169 01:27:45,259 --> 01:27:46,126 - You must be Matt! - I am! 1170 01:27:46,177 --> 01:27:48,179 - Hello, I'm Beth! - Hi, Beth. 1171 01:27:48,262 --> 01:27:50,390 - It's nice to meet you! - Good to meet you. 1172 01:27:50,473 --> 01:27:52,475 - Hi, there! - Hello! How are you? 1173 01:27:52,558 --> 01:27:54,477 Oh, aren't you sweet. Come on in. 1174 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,645 It's so nice to meet you! 1175 01:27:55,728 --> 01:27:56,328 You too. 1176 01:27:56,354 --> 01:27:57,814 - How are you? - Hello! 1177 01:27:57,897 --> 01:28:00,400 Long time. It's so nice. 1178 01:28:00,483 --> 01:28:03,736 How many people do you think are in our immediate family? 1179 01:28:03,820 --> 01:28:05,071 Just in the Weber family? 1180 01:28:05,154 --> 01:28:06,614 Just in the Weber family. 1181 01:28:07,198 --> 01:28:08,741 I never counted 'em. 1182 01:28:09,492 --> 01:28:12,453 One, two, three, four, five. That's 18. 1183 01:28:12,537 --> 01:28:15,790 I know of, I'm seeing like in the 30s or 40s. 1184 01:28:15,873 --> 01:28:16,582 40. 1185 01:28:16,666 --> 01:28:18,501 I think of 20, 23? 1186 01:28:18,584 --> 01:28:19,877 I'd say between 40 and 50. 1187 01:28:19,961 --> 01:28:20,837 I'd say... yeah. 1188 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,296 - Are you ready to find out? - Sure. 1189 01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:25,842 So, we have... first, we have Alfons. 1190 01:28:26,884 --> 01:28:30,013 And Alfons has a son named Karl. 1191 01:28:30,430 --> 01:28:33,725 Karl has Kristen and Cort. 1192 01:28:34,434 --> 01:28:35,560 And Gretchen. 1193 01:28:36,477 --> 01:28:39,731 And Klaus and Heidi. 1194 01:28:39,814 --> 01:28:40,898 Those are all his kids. 1195 01:28:40,982 --> 01:28:42,567 Jonathan and Kathleen. 1196 01:28:42,942 --> 01:28:44,277 Rebecca 1197 01:28:45,278 --> 01:28:46,446 and Julia. 1198 01:28:46,529 --> 01:28:48,781 That's just Uncle Alfons's family. 1199 01:28:48,865 --> 01:28:50,158 Oh, boy. 1200 01:28:50,241 --> 01:28:51,743 Okay, and then we have Gertrude. 1201 01:28:51,826 --> 01:28:53,411 She has Lynn. 1202 01:28:53,494 --> 01:28:55,538 Gertrude also has Don. 1203 01:28:56,247 --> 01:28:59,125 And then there's Aunt Judith. 1204 01:28:59,208 --> 01:29:01,294 Ron has a daughter named Mika. 1205 01:29:01,377 --> 01:29:05,298 You have Les, who has Karen and Chuck. 1206 01:29:05,381 --> 01:29:10,803 I have Josh and Oliver and Sebastian. 1207 01:29:12,013 --> 01:29:13,473 Count 'em. 1208 01:29:14,515 --> 01:29:16,726 57, 58, 59, 60. 1209 01:29:16,809 --> 01:29:18,686 61, 62, 63... 1210 01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:21,314 Boy, Schmidt should only know what he did. 1211 01:29:22,648 --> 01:29:24,734 - 72. - 72. 1212 01:29:24,817 --> 01:29:27,278 - Holy crap. - This is our whole family. 1213 01:29:30,364 --> 01:29:32,241 Come here, sis. Give me a hug. 1214 01:29:32,325 --> 01:29:34,160 - Why? - Because I love ya! 1215 01:29:34,243 --> 01:29:36,245 - Well, that's crazy. - Because we love each other. 1216 01:29:36,329 --> 01:29:37,538 That's unbelievable. 1217 01:29:37,622 --> 01:29:40,500 I mean, you save seven people, 1218 01:29:40,583 --> 01:29:42,960 and you saved 72 lives. 1219 01:29:45,046 --> 01:29:46,422 You know, a lot of people see things wrong 1220 01:29:46,506 --> 01:29:47,924 and don't do nothing. 1221 01:29:49,384 --> 01:29:53,513 When you're faced with adversity, who do you become? 1222 01:30:43,396 --> 01:30:46,774 When Arthur Schmidt stepped forward to help, 1223 01:30:46,858 --> 01:30:49,110 our fortunes began to change, 1224 01:30:49,193 --> 01:30:51,654 and our lives were truly 1225 01:30:51,737 --> 01:30:55,533 in the hands of the righteous among the nations. 1226 01:31:09,505 --> 01:31:13,259 There is so much evil in the world. 1227 01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:17,013 That is always overcome by so much goodness. 1228 01:31:17,597 --> 01:31:22,018 And I think it is incumbent upon us 1229 01:31:22,101 --> 01:31:24,020 uh, to remember, 1230 01:31:24,103 --> 01:31:27,106 that the good always outweighs the evil. 1231 01:32:47,561 --> 01:32:49,563 In other words, your thoughts are free 1232 01:32:49,647 --> 01:32:51,065 and nobody can catch them! 1233 01:32:51,565 --> 01:32:53,776 Your thoughts are your thoughts. 1234 01:32:54,402 --> 01:32:58,406 And no jaeger, nobody can shoot your thoughts. 1235 01:32:59,073 --> 01:33:00,491 That's the song. 1236 01:33:00,574 --> 01:33:02,410 - I remember. - You and Senta used to sing. 1237 01:33:02,493 --> 01:33:03,577 Always. 1238 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,789 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 1239 01:33:06,872 --> 01:33:09,667 ♪ My thoughts freely flower ♪ 1240 01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:12,336 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 1241 01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:14,964 ♪ My thoughts give me power ♪ 1242 01:33:15,047 --> 01:33:17,842 ♪ No scholar can map them ♪ 1243 01:33:17,925 --> 01:33:20,469 ♪ No hunter can drop them ♪ 1244 01:33:20,553 --> 01:33:23,389 ♪ No man can deny ♪ 1245 01:33:23,472 --> 01:33:26,267 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 1246 01:33:26,350 --> 01:33:29,270 ♪ No man can deny ♪ 1247 01:33:29,353 --> 01:33:32,231 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 1248 01:33:33,691 --> 01:33:36,527 ♪ I think I as I please ♪ 1249 01:33:36,610 --> 01:33:39,196 ♪ And this gives me pleasure ♪ 1250 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,033 ♪ My conscience decrees ♪ 1251 01:33:42,116 --> 01:33:44,577 ♪ This right I must treasure ♪ 1252 01:33:44,660 --> 01:33:47,580 ♪ My thoughts will not cater ♪ 1253 01:33:47,663 --> 01:33:50,291 ♪ To duke or dictator ♪ 1254 01:33:50,374 --> 01:33:53,252 ♪ No man can deny ♪ 1255 01:33:53,336 --> 01:33:56,172 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 1256 01:33:56,255 --> 01:33:59,216 ♪ No man can deny ♪ 1257 01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:02,345 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 1258 01:34:05,014 --> 01:34:08,017 ♪ And should tyrants take me ♪ 1259 01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:10,728 ♪ And throw me in prison ♪ 1260 01:34:10,811 --> 01:34:13,647 ♪ My thoughts will burst free ♪ 1261 01:34:13,731 --> 01:34:16,442 ♪ Like blossoms in season ♪ 1262 01:34:16,525 --> 01:34:21,989 ♪ Foundations will crumble and structures will tumble ♪ 1263 01:34:22,073 --> 01:34:25,159 ♪ And free men will cry ♪ 1264 01:34:25,242 --> 01:34:27,870 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 1265 01:34:28,537 --> 01:34:31,707 ♪ And free men will cry ♪ 1266 01:34:31,791 --> 01:34:35,252 ♪ Die Gedanken sind Frei ♪ 89575

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