All language subtitles for Sunny Leone UNFILTERED_ Fame, Controversies _ Her Journey From Taboo to Transformation _ TRS

When you're working, it's a pretty
simple structure.

You show up, you do your job, and you go
home.

I feel like here, when things go wrong,
what I've learned was to voice my

opinion a lot on why does this happen?
Why is this happening? Why is no one

yet? Why am I sitting for one hour on
set doing nothing? I had to learn the

way that if I just voice my opinion to
one person,

And let them go handle everything and
keep my mouth shut. Usually, almost

get what I want. I remember when you
were in Big Boss. I felt like that was a

massive India jump. You became like a
cultural icon in that phase. And you

stayed there. My goals were very
different for being on that show. My

just to step one foot in the door. And
whether I stayed for one day or a week

it ended up being seven weeks. That was
my goal.

It wasn't anything more. It wasn't,
there was no formula in my head that I

to go on the show and fight. When I
watched the show before, I was thinking,

not this person who just fights with
people.

This is our episode with Sunny Leone.
Asked her all the things I've always

wanted to ask her. This is the kind of
conversation I would have had with her

I just met her at a party or a public
event.

But you know what? I'm blessed enough to
be doing a podcast for a living and I

get to have these conversations in front
of you guys.

Enjoy today's conversation with Sunny
Leone. A new film, Kennedy. Make sure

go enjoy it. But for now, enjoy this
special episode of TRS.

Sunny Leone, what's up?

Hi, how are you?

How's it going? Good. How are you?

I'm good.

Good to have you in the studio.

Thank you.

Sorry we made you wait this long to
unleash the actual TRS energy.

It's okay.

How's life been lately?

Great.

Wonderful. You want to expand on why
it's great?

I love my life. I have a great family. I
feel like my career is doing pretty

good.

You know, everybody's healthy. So can't
get any better than that. Okay. Is

Mumbai home for you now? Like in your
heart?

Yes. Yes. I don't want to live anywhere
else.

Only here. You wouldn't want to go back
to Canada at any point?

Absolutely not.

Really? Not to Canada or not to the US.
No way.

Why do you say that?

I think that the U .S. and Canada or
especially the U .S. is in a very not so

great space right now. And I feel safer
here and I feel happier here with my

children and my family and my businesses
than I think I ever would in the U .S.

Okay. This is what a lot of people from
the film world say. Okay. You guys are

just used to conversations where people
are attacking you with questions and

trying to get headlines out.

Is that the case?

No, I don't think so. I think that
people are inquisitive about many

things. And a lot of people have the
same questions, which is totally fine.

And it just depends on that journalist
or reporter's energy. Sometimes you do

the same interviews with the same
questions, but it turns out completely

different. So it just depends on who
you're talking to. Okay. Tell me about

you've been learning lately.

What I've been learning? At this stage
of life.

At this stage of life, learning.

Learning that everything can change
within a second as far as your career

or your family goes.

Having three children is very
challenging, so I'm learning from them

single day.

Because as they change, I also have to
change.

It's not the other way around. Children
don't change for you.

You have to change for them.

So that's really interesting.

What else am I learning? I don't know
how to like have patience.

Okay.

That's all you want to say?

Yeah, I guess so.

Okay. How have you changed for your
children?

Everything. Everything changes. Like
every tiny little thing, like how you

respond to how they do their work or
each of my children is completely

different. They're nothing alike.

how they react to discipline or how they
react to learning or how they want to

engage with you versus when they need
their space or when they need certain

things. So every human being and every
child is very, very different.

Okay.

It's the same as us. It's just that we
have, I think, less patience for adults

than we do for children. Children we
have patience for.

Okay. No, I hear you.

Do you think motherhood is changing you
as an actor or as a professional?

I'm coming from the perspective of
fatherhood because I feel it's one of my

personal goals. Like you have career
goals and then you have life goals. And

fatherhood is a big life goal for me.
But I keep questioning how it's going to

change how I go about my career.

Yeah, it just depends on your parenting
style.

So some people's parenting style is one
way and some are another. Mine is more

structured. Mine is more...

As you have just noticed, probably a
little type A personality.

So everything in my world is structured.
Everything is on a schedule. Everything

is, you know, planned out throughout my
children's entire day. So I know from

the morning until I got here, my
children saw me. I got to spend time

I sat with them when they were at
breakfast or I helped them build their

run this morning before I started
makeup. So I know.

My schedule, and then I have to get into
hair and makeup. And then I know that,

you know, once I'm there, if they need
to come talk to me, they can. But now

they're out of class.

Then they will come home. Then they will
have lunch. Then they will have this.

Then they have another class.

So their entire day is scheduled like
this. So then I know as a professional

when I need to be home, when my work
needs to end, when I need to slot, make

sure that time is given to my children
that we all know.

And it's not like some sporadic schedule
where they don't know when mommy's not

coming. You know, when mommy's coming
home, when I'm not coming home, they

understand that when I work, that it
makes mommy a better person.

So it just depends on your own parenting
style when you have a child. If it's

free -for -all, that happens a lot in
Indian homes here.

Children are like...

It's like a psychological battle where
for them, they understand you're

home today. They don't understand why
you're not home tomorrow.

Now, if you don't have those
conversations and that open conversation

kids, then they get confused.

It's like saying today you can light the
candle.

Tomorrow you can light the candle.

But on this day, you cannot light it
because I'm not in the mood.

But what sense does that make?

So it's all about, you know, how you
structure and communicate with your

Rubbing that type A personality into
your kids. Well, I think that children

psychologically and emotionally thrive
more on structure than they do on a non

-structured home. Yeah. I think what you
see as a kid becomes your reality as an

adult. So I think it's actually cool
that you're rubbing that type A

in. Well, I want... them to feel good
you know and when they're learning

observed they're absorbing as much
information as possible so when you have

children that are tired that sleep at 12
o 'clock they go to school all day then

they don't get a nap then they're only
being fed when they're cranky so you're

not actually you're not helping them
grow as individuals i feel okay not that

will ever mess With you? But I wouldn't
want to ever mess with you. You come

across as that kind of person.

Well... Does anyone ever cross a line
with you? Does anyone piss you off? I'd

like to know how you react.

It depends on who it is, really.

Yeah? In Mumbai, have you felt that with
all the chaos going on in the

professional world here? I think it's
just the nature of doing business in

and it's also the beauty of it. Because
a lot of work happens because of the

chaos. Yeah, the wheel's turning but no
one knows how.

What? The wheel is turning, but no one
knows how.

Right. It just goes.

That's what you've noticed about Mumbai
work culture, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

As compared to America and Canada. Yeah,
there it's more black and white.

As in?

Like black and white. There is no in the
middle gray area.

Okay. So here there's a gray area.

Okay.

Where everything goes.

I understand what you're saying but we
also have 13 year olds watching this so

I'd love for you to simplify what you
just said and I'll tell you why because

had the foreign minister of India on the
show recently and he said how it's very

important for a lot of Indians abroad to
come back but also Indians here to go

out there understand work culture abroad
and I feel it's two very different

things and there's very few people who
got success in both places.

That's also because of your type A
personality.

But I'm sure there's a lot of nuanced
learning.

Exactly what you said about black and
white and the wheel turning.

Just break that down a little bit. And I
ask you this because I respect the fact

that you've maintained your relevance.

That's one of the most difficult things
to do in a career that includes fame.

You've maintained it for so long.

So you've been doing a lot of things
correct.

What's been happening?

Non -journalist question.

I think that...

When you're working, it's a pretty
simple structure.

You show up, you do your job and you go
home.

And when I feel like here, when things
go wrong, what I've learned compared

to the beginning of my career here was
to voice my opinion a lot on why does

this happen? Why is this happening? Why
is no one here yet? Why am I sitting for

one hour on set doing nothing? Why am I,
you know, why is...

Why is the script a certain way and then
all of a sudden now you're changing it?

These things don't make sense to me. Or
if you've discussed one thing in a

scene, why is it changing all of a
sudden to something completely

didn't make sense to me. The script was
the script in my head. A story was a

story. So in that way, I had to learn
the hard way that if I just...

voice my opinion to one person and let
them go handle everything and keep my

mouth shut i'll um usually almost always
get what i want which

is the same thing that they want it's
just being put across as something

different so maybe there's like some
language barriers there i'm not talking

about actual language i mean just in how
we cultural value yeah like communicate

So they want the same thing I do, but we
have to come to some common ground

without arguing. And that, you know, was
something that was very interesting to

learn or how the entire set with, you
know, 150 people there, half of them not

wearing shoes or electrical equipment or
why things are not taped down on the

floor, you know, like that.

Like simple things like that or here a
lot of business is done on feeling

emotions where, you know, maybe it's
changing a little bit now,

but they would do things more on emotion
than on facts.

Okay. You know, like numbers, facts,
like when you're looking at someone's

popularity or you're looking at
analytics of who somebody is.

Where now we're learning back that
maintaining a certain level of

which is not something that I'm always
good at or Daniel, because we're so like

black and white, let's keep going, let's
keep working.

It's something that definitely needs to
be done here. So India functions a lot

on.

where in the U .S. everything's black
and white. You show up, you do your job,

and you go home.

And that's, you know, as simple as it
gets.

And you're still enjoying all this more?
Like the emotional? Yeah, I love it. I

think that India is one of the most
amazing emerging markets in the world. I

think that everything that happens here
is like, it's unbelievable.

And it's unbelievable to watch.

You know, A lot of people who understand
your world and who are studying your

journey know about like your whole
entrepreneurial side.

There's a lot of people who don't as
well and are getting to learn about this

new version of you.

You've actually made a lot of people a
lot of money. Like that's the chatter

that came up about you when I was like
researching for this episode.

That when there's a lot of gaming
companies.

That actually rely on you as like the
main bet in order to become profitable.

That says a lot about like professional
prowess.

Yeah, I should ask for more money.

You should. I'm just kidding.

I'm happy with all the agreements I have
with everyone.

You're very well spoken.

And I think that actually is like your X
factor.

Are you aware of that?

That happens with like American and
Canadian education.

I think you guys are just... trained way
better in communication skills?

Um, so I learned all my communication
skills after the age of, um, it was

like 16, 17, 16, 17 is when I really
started learning about communication

skills, um, through school or through, I
started working at 15 and a half and I

have worked almost every single job you
can think of in the US.

I've worked there.

So, um,

That's where it started, and then I
really started learning interviews and

to give them different personalities a
lot after 18.

Okay. Yeah. You want to expand on this?
When I worked in the adult entertainment

industry, I did so many different
interviews across the entire world and

country. When I mean interviews, there
are press days you have for,

let's say, a film.

Like someone super famous you can think
of here who does an entire press day for

a film. It's the beginning of it. So
it's the entire day. So the same thing

would happen there where we would do big
radio trails and interviews and TV

interviews and all that. So that's where
it really started. So a lot of my

mistakes of speaking or how to
communicate, they all happened then. It

boot camp for Bollywood.

What mistakes did you make?

Just the way that you speak, you know,
when you listen back on conversations

have, you're like, why was I saying, uh,
uh, uh.

I probably do it now and I would say,
um.

No, no, no. You're pretty like
straightforward and smooth with like the

talk. So then all those little things,
you know, kind of disappear after you

watch yourself a few times.

Does it piss you off that journalists
take your conversations to that whole

phase of your life?

No, I don't care. It is not the
question.

that might be an issue. It's the manner
in which the question is asked.

So if the same question is asked 10
times and one person asks it with

an opinion already formed, they've
already

judged me, they've already put me in
this box that they hold me in without

unbiased, then...

Yes, it's going to come across as being
rude or, you know, not so nice.

Okay.

What's the angriest you've gotten in
India in one of these interactions?

I don't really get that angry in an
interaction.

No. There's no anger in you?

If there is in it, you would never know
it.

Like you'll just be able to hide it?

Absolutely. It's not my job to let you
get the, I'm not going to let you get

better of me.

I don't. No, I'm just like, it could be
anyone.

be anyone giving an interview why would
i give you that satisfaction okay so i i

don't know i believe in that whatever
karma is we'll get them later leaving it

to the universe yeah of course okay that
that whole phase of your life when you

were an adult stuff behind the scenes in
terms of the life you're living when

you're sleeping at night when you're
waking up i'm 100 sure there's a lot of

learnings along the way as well yeah of
course what were those learnings like

For example, if you ask me about the
behind the scenes learning of YouTubing,

big learning has been that people can
forget you like that.

You'll be flying one day and the next
day you'll be out.

Fame is one of those things where you
have to keep adding fuel to the fire.

the day you even take a break, people
begin to forget you.

And it's such a harsh reality that you
only learn on the job.

I want to learn about your harsh
realities from that phase.

Harsh realities? I don't know. I mean, I
don't really look at my career as like,

I don't like take those harsh realities
and go, okay, now I need to harbor on

them at all.

So I believe in the opposite of what you
just said. I think that if you are

someone in business or you're someone
who is, you know, YouTuber influencer,

have a personality based, I guess, I
don't want to say website, but you have

personality based.

You're just selling your face. Yeah,
you're selling yourself. You're selling

this podcast.

This is all you, right?

It's about consistency.

So that consistency, as long as you are
voicing whatever your opinions are, then

those followers are going to stay with
you. I'm not talking about the follower

that just comes for the day and then
leaves.

I'm talking about your hardcore
followers, the ones that always stay

And that steadily grows as you continue
with your business. Because if you're

not evolving in your business, then...

that's a problem. You know, if you do
the same thing over and over again,

a problem. But you as a personality,
they will follow because they like you.

So even when learning in that time,
building a website,

building my own HTML program, building
my own affiliate program, learning.

Sorry, not building my own HTML program,
learning HTML, learning how to edit

photos, learning how to edit video.

Like I had notebooks of, you know, all
these different things where I was

learning how to do it all. I did
everything from A to Z and everything

editing to all of it.

So in that, and then once that was done,
then learning how to.

market it and then learning how to get
you know other affiliates to send

to my websites or you know all that so
everything was a learning process and a

lot of it wasn't easy and I had no money
so or like barely breaking even but I

refused to give it to somebody else to
run because giving somebody 50 % of what

I of me was didn't make sense to me at
all and you must have been like 18 or 19

at this point started at um i was like
19 damn so that's when it all it started

were you really good at school like no i
wasn't i was a student really yeah okay

i would assume my parents i would assume
that this whole type a personality just

extended in that direction and this
direction i grew up in a very not so um

uh, easy household where it was easy for
me to like keep learning. It was more,

we were more focused on the emotional
things that were happening in, in our,

our house. So, um, I don't think that it
was a conducive place for, uh, really

excelling. My brother though is
extremely smart. He's like that.

the kid that is a forever student.

Okay. You know, we all know like one of
those in our friend circle who's a

forever student that's always learning.
That's my brother. And I was the

complete opposite, but I started working
and making money when I was, I don't

know, six years old.

Really? So not a lot of my, I'm talking
about money for candy or money, you

know, but it was three.

Creating the plan was always my idea.

So whether it was selling something door
to door, whether it was selling

lemonade, whether it was shoveling snow
on the driveway after a snowstorm, which

is like huge money because we would
spend all day shoveling our neighbor's

driveways for not a lot of money. But at
that time, it was a lot of money for

me.

So I was always that girl.

Okay. All right.

Did you make a lot of money between age
18 and 25?

Because that's the assumption.

Yeah, of course. I mean, for myself, I
think that what happened after a certain

amount of time, I was making a lot of
money. And then I started investing

everything into my business.

And once I started investing everything
into my business. Which was your

personal brand?

Which was...

A production house, my own website, this
affiliate program we talked about

hiring the right people for design work
and all this stuff. So all those things

cost money.

So when my husband and I, he was my
boyfriend at the time, started our own

production house, we had negative money.
We had nothing. Like negative meaning

he took a loan on a credit card to
start.

And that's it. The rest is history.

applying the desi brains and jewish
brains together yeah to figure out how

multiply the money yeah exactly that's
he's a very good businessman so yeah

that's the energy you guys give off as a
couple you know i've only met you very

briefly and i purposely didn't speak too
much because i wanted to have this

interaction with you here like i there
was a part of me that always knew i'll

end up speaking to you in the studio at
some point so This is not the end of the

podcast, but I was really looking
forward to speaking to you. I feel you

lot of stories and a lot of anecdotes
and experiences which you're never asked

about. Yeah.

And I intend on doing some of it today.

I want to ask you about what the best
and worst aspect of your life was during

your adult film career.

During my adult, the best part was I
worked with the best of the best

This idea of having like business and
street smarts really helped me out.

And for me, it was you really don't need
your whole brain to figure out

how this all functions.

And I just stuck with it and just was
very consistent.

As an intuition used to kick in and used
to make a decision through intuition.

Yeah. Okay.

Like what? Like if you don't like
someone, you won't work with them? No.

just intuitions, but also it all had to
come down to just facts about the

company or facts about how things work.
I read every single contract. I

corrected every single contract so that
it would work in my favor.

And the companies that I worked with,
they would get what they wanted. I also

got what I wanted. So it was never a
situation where I was being taken

of. Okay.

What was the worst aspect of it? The
worst aspect of it?

Maybe seeing some of the other girls'
success and how fast it worked and I had

to work maybe harder because I worked at
a very slow pace and I wasn't into some

of the things that were happening around
me or that wasn't the step that I

wanted to take at that moment and then
sitting going, okay, now I got to work a

little bit harder. But that's my entire
life always. I've always had to work

twice as hard or three times as hard
because it's just...

It gets there where I want it to, but it
just takes time. Even now? Even now.

Yeah, of course.

I remember when you were in Big Boss, at
least from my eyes, and I might be

wrong, but I felt like that was a
massive India jump. You became like a

icon in that phase and you stayed there.
You know, that's what I find cool as

well. Like it's still like the same
cultural icon, but there was a massive

during your Big Boss phase.

Yeah. I remember you being very polite
in the Big Boss house. That's what I

visualize about you. Yeah.

My goals were very different for being
on that show. My goal was just to step

one foot in the door. And whether I
stayed for one day or a week or it ended

being seven weeks, that was my goal. It
wasn't anything more.

There was no formula in my head that I
have to go on the show and fight. When I

watched the show before.

I was thinking, I'm not that person who
just fights with people.

And I think for a reality show, like the
creative

of the show, they didn't necessarily
care whether I was going to fight with

someone or express some crazy opinions
or go after people. For me, me walking

the door was what they needed.

And me, for myself, me walking in the
door was what I needed. So it didn't...

For them, I don't think it mattered
whether that formula of, okay, you're

to go in there, you're going to cause
some ruckus, you're going to do this and

that. So my objective wasn't that at
all. Did it play with you

that house?

Yeah, of course. It does? I think it
does. Yeah, of course. I want to know

type A personality answer to this
question. What happens?

That's all I've heard people say. Like
any of my friends who've been in big

boats, they say it psychologically
messes with you. Yeah, it's a

game for sure. What happens?

what happens is you're cut off. So the
first thing that happens is you lose

sense of time.

So once you lose your sense of time, you
know in the morning when the song

starts and the lights go on that it's
morning.

But somewhere in between, there's no
sense of time.

You're just going to guess when you're
hungry and you want to eat lunch or all

these different things.

The day just goes because you're with so
many people. It's like being stuck in a

room with all these people. You don't
really know them. You know them, but you

don't know how they act when they're in
their own homes or in their own rooms.

So all that comes into play, which is
very interesting to watch, I'm sure.

Because it reveals your own character to
yourself as well. Yeah, and you also

forget the cameras.

You forget that the cameras are there.

Sometimes you might remember that the
cameras are there, but after a certain

point in time, just like time, it
doesn't exist anymore. You're just

this box.

Were you dating Daniel at this point?

Yeah, I was. Yeah, Daniel came with me
with my security person we had with us,

and they dropped me.

They put me in the Anova and then into
the house. And they told Daniel and our

friend Jeej, you know, bye -bye. So they
got on a plane and went home.

Wow. So I just realized this now that I
was having a conversation with somebody

is that I had no emotional support
system on the outside.

And I was thinking, oh, yeah, that is
true. I was kind of alone.

So it's very weird. Like other people
had, you know, their family sending them

maybe something inside the house or
some, you know, they knew that right

that door, they had a support system,
which one was the opposite.

Okay. I don't know a polite way to ask
this question, but I hope that you

understand it's coming from a polite
place.

Did a lot of people hit on you when you
just got out of the big boss house? When

I got out? Yeah, because I don't know
how many people knew about Daniel back

then. And they knew about him. But I
also live in I live in a bubble.

So even like, when I came out, I'm still
waiting for like, you know, really good

looking guy to come.

It doesn't happen.

Because it's always fun to be hit on.
Yeah, of course.

But no, that it doesn't happen. It
doesn't even happen now.

Nope. Really? I know. It's so sad. And I
don't I don't know how true that is.

Maybe maybe I'm never alone.

Okay, as in Daniel's always with you?
No, no, not just him. I'm talking about

just anybody.

Okay. Whether it's my team, going
somewhere.

The only time I'm doing personal things
is like maybe with my kids or if I go

get a massage at the spa.

But other than that, I'm not alone that
much, which I think is a problem now

that we say it out loud.

I mean, but when you go for an event,
you don't feel any kind of uncle energy,

just like...

coming towards you i know that this
happens with a lot of my hyper

friends yeah uh just because they're
hyper attractive when they enter rooms

there's a lot of energy directed towards
them well i mean there's yeah there's

lots of people that want to take a photo
with you but not someone that comes up

to you and says hey baby want to go have
a drink none not that never happens

At all. It's never happened.

No, even when I've gone out with like,
let's say I go out with one of my

girlfriends to dinner. Nope, doesn't
happen.

Maybe this is IPA. That's because
there's a security person standing in a

corner, you know. Okay, fair.

Fair, cool. Yeah, I wish it did.

I don't know how much I believe you.
Sometimes, like maybe like a couple

year would be nice.

Again, I don't know how much I believe
you here, but I appreciate. No, it's

true. Really? Yeah.

Really? No one comes near me.

Hmm.

I miss give off like a bit.

When was the last time you were single?

2007.

Okay.

I was only single for a very short
amount of time. I was like, you know,

people who are like serial daters.

I feel that vibe.

I had, I had, I had like single
lifetime, which was really nice. And

I had a lot, a lot more time. I've
always was with somebody.

Okay. Okay. Until you found your
Rajkumar. Yeah. Yeah.

Can you understand Hindi now, like
fully? Of course I do. Can you speak? So

that's another question.

That people ask you. You want to go back
to your number one question? No, I

don't want to go back. This is another
one. And the next question is, ab hum

Hindi mein baat karege. No.

Okay, thank you for the announcement.

That's what I say.

No, I'm having fun just getting to know
you. No, I do understand Hindi.

Can you speak? I do speak it, yes.

Okay. Are you going to say, okay, now
hum.

No. I don't know about like your dating
life.

I have none. It's non -existent. Okay.

But you always found it easy to have
like a dating life.

Yeah. In your famous part of your life
as well.

That's something a lot of my famous
friends are like dealing with now.

Because they're scared to be with
somebody.

I think that's an Indian thing.

Really? Really? Yeah.

It's like, oh, no, she's unavailable or
he's unavailable anymore. But I don't

think that works a lot with, you know,
the West. Like, let's take someone like

Jennifer Lopez.

She's so hot all the time.

Like, I don't think of her and go, oh,
she has twins and oh, she's married to

Ben Affleck. I don't care.

Same thing with like, let's say Brad
Pitt. I know he has, you know, kids out

there or, you know, he's been in a
relationship. I don't care. He's hot.

Or Ryan Gosling.

I actually don't care at all what kind
of family they want. For me, in my head,

they're still available.

Even though they're not available.

Because I can never attain that. So I
don't understand this whole philosophy

not wanting to date somebody or be with
somebody if you meet them because of

your career.

I think career and relationships are
totally different.

What's been your most difficult phase in
India?

Like, since the time you've been here,
what's been, like, the biggest

Not, like, you know, the professional
stuff you're talking about, just you.

What did you find, like, difficult?

I find building relationships here very
difficult.

Because, like you said earlier, your
friends have a hard time understanding

who's real, who's not, who's once. It's
not, wasn't.

You're talking about relationships and
people having sex with each other or

building that relationship for some
other motive. It's the same thing.

With friendship.

Yeah, of course. Finding friends.

That's very, very difficult. I have very
little friends here. It's so sad.

But the few that I do have, I hold them
close to me. And then everybody else I

work with. And those people have become
my family.

Okay. There have been people who have
double -crossed you or something?

I don't know if it's like, yeah, of
course, like business or personal.

Yeah, of course. In India?

Yeah, but that's like, but I mean, it
also happened in the US too, but I've

spent, you know, the last almost 11
years here.

So yeah, of course.

Okay. How has one double -crossed you in
like the personal life side of things?

This woman was a...

like having an affair with somebody, but
she used myself and a friend of mine to

use us and say, Oh, I'm with these two
friends. Oh, like simple stuff. It's

like, so like weird. But then at the end
of the day, you're like, but my

daughter was in the hospital at that
time. You told your husband that you

coming to visit me and use my.

sick daughter as your excuse that's low
like that's that's pretty shady um but

like stuff like that considering all the
different career experiences you've had

i think that you're a very sharp reader
of people honestly like i think you can

like break down people pretty fast i
think that's how you've survived and

as well uh well no i just don't let them
in my circle in the first place i'm

very i'm very it's very hard to get in
yeah um only because of like stuff that

i've seen even when i'm talking to you i
feel like your energy is very guarded

and i respect that but like i can sense
extremely guarded energy and i know that

audiences at this point can sense it as
well it's just a natural well we're

meeting for the first time what do you
want me to do jump in your lap and go

no no no usually people okay honestly

this is something i see with a lot of
nris You guys are a little guarded as

compared to the Indians who've grown up
here.

It's some cultural thing.

Yeah. Well, maybe it's you. It's not me.

I don't think it's me. Maybe it's you. I
mean, you're like projecting this way,

but maybe it's just, it's not me. Maybe
it's you in that opinion.

Do you sense any guarded energy from me?
This is like the least guarded a human

can be.

Yeah.

Sunny Leone.

That's it. We're done. Thank you.

How was this conversation?

It was very nice. Thank you. Okay.
That's all. That's all.

It was wonderful. Lovely.

I had so much fun. I'm so excited to
watch this podcast when it comes out.

I love your pink tee to your pink
sweater because I love Marilyn Monroe.

No, but thank you.

It's very real talking to you.

While I said you're guarded and
everything, you're a very real type A

personality. And that energy is like
rubbed off. I feel like getting my life

order. You should. I do have that effect
on people.

All my mommies are like, damn.

Yeah. You give off that like very
disciplined, listen, I'm going to get my

done kind of vibe. And I think that's
the biggest reason you've seen the

you've seen. Thank you. I hope so. Lots
of respect and lots of good wishes.

Thank you for coming to the space.

And I hope to have another conversation
with you at some point. Thank you.

All right. Thank you so much.

That was the episode for today. We had a
bit of a time constraint, which is why

I couldn't take the conversation into as
deep a place as I wish to take it.

But you know what?

Sunny will probably be returning on the
show at some point.

Tell me what you thought of this
episode.

And until next time, guys, from Ranveer
and the team, we'll see you later.