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When I was younger it was very
romanticized that you're going for it

going and you know it's like you have to
work 24 hours do four movies in one

time you know five shifts don't sleep
don't eat and the more a person does

the more successful you will be.

But as I have seen and lived more life,
I've realized having a work -life

balance is really important.

So when you talk about a beach, I was in
Turks and Caicos just recently. My

phones were off. Me and my husband were
by ourselves.

We spent time. We walked on the beach.
We collected shells.

And then I came back feeling
rejuvenated, feeling excited and really

to take my career forward.

I mean, this generation of girls is
fearless.

And there's so many girls that take...

Our first episode with Priyanka Chopra
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Today on TRS, we have one of the most
productive human beings that mankind has

ever known.

Priyanka Chopra, for an international
audience, welcome. For an Indian

welcome.

We were waiting for you.

All of us Indians, welcome.

Thank you so much, Ranveer. Thank you
for having me back.

I have so much to say to you, which I'll
finally offload now. Please do. I've

been waiting for this.

Anticipation has built to high levels.

You and your podcast with us was a
turning point in the whole podcast

And fortunately, we had first moves
advantage for doing the podcast in India

because podcasting wasn't a culture back
then. That's true.

I was right at the precipice of it.
Yeah. And whenever someone asks me what

favorite podcast was or my favorite
guest was, I say you.

I love being a favorite.

There's a reason for that. Thank you.
Okay. Which, which I've not, which I've

not said online, but I will say, and I
want to say this in front of you.

Um, when you're doing podcasts, you
really sense the energy of the guest.

And I've done all sorts of guests like
Bollywood, military, you name it.

Um, you were the only person who gave me
a very like quiet, calming energy. You

sat, you understood. I was like crazy
nervous.

you calmed me down and you gave me the
content that you knew would work for the

show it was kind of like you were
helping a younger version of yourself am

calling myself a younger version of you
I don't know maybe yeah but I totally

felt I felt so much help from you and
you didn't have to but you were so nice

and it kind of also gave me a reference
point of how to just be As a media

professional, like you're so
professional. So thank you so much. Oh,

That means so much to me. Yeah, it means
a lot. I mean, even I was a newcomer,

right? At one point, I also started at
something different.

And it's just so nice when someone
understands what your goal is. And

standing in your way, helps you, pushes
you just a little bit.

And I kind of maybe sense that feeling
from you. And I always like to...

you know, stand and be helpful rather
than be a thorn on your side. So I'm

that it works for you. No, you weren't a
thorn at all. Should I make it heavy

now or should I warm you up a little
bit? Whenever you want, buddy. I'm good.

I'm really good with heavy lifting.
Okay. Are you happy in life?

Yeah, actually happier than I've been in
a really long time.

Okay. Why do you say that?

I think I reached a place where I
stopped struggling with

the things I did when I was younger.

Maybe it's maturity.

Maybe it's being on the other side of
35, I guess. And maybe it is just having

my feet on the ground and a little bit
more stable ground.

But I think I'm not running as fast as I
was.

I'm thinking about the steps I take.

I'm in a really comfortable, content
place when it comes to my life.

And the choices that I'm making are mine
and are not defined by other people or

the validation that I probably needed
when I was younger.

So I think that's made me a little bit
more happy and calm.

Okay. While you say all that, I feel
yours is one of the biggest success

that India has ever seen. Like very few
Indian actors or anyone from the media

industry has reached where you've
reached in your life.

Aren't you like done?

Like, why do you want more?

what kind of question is that i meant
see i have this vision for myself that

only going to work till about 35 40
because then i just want to chill on a

i'm asking you from the beach scenario
sure uh don't you don't you kind of want

to go on a beach because every time you
take up something new there is a trade

-off of mental health in the long term
but you're just going for it like you

were going for it even during the last
conversation and you're going for it now

so i'm just trying to like explore
what's happening and why i can help you

understand it a little bit yeah when i
was younger um it was very romanticized

that you're going for it and just keep
going and you know it's like you have to

work 24 hours do four movies in one time
you know five shifts don't sleep don't

eat and the more a person does that the
more successful you will be But as I

have seen and lived more life, I've
realized having a work -life balance is

really important.

So when you talk about a beach, I was in
Turks and Caicos just recently. My

phones were off, me and my husband just
by ourselves.

We spent time, we walked on the beach,
we collected shells.

And then I came back feeling
rejuvenated, feeling excited and really

to take my career forward.

So this romanticization of work has to
be...

tough and work has to be rough. It's
not.

Work can be your companion.

Work can be creative.

Work can be something that gives you
joy. And now I've reached a point where

that work -life balance for me is most
important.

I will work on the six verticals that
I'm working on, you know, my business,

production, my book, my acting,
whatever.

But when I switch off, I'm with my
family.

I'm at home. I watch movies. I do
whatever I want to do. So then when I

back to work the next day, I have the
focus to be able to do even more things.

So when you're talking about retiring at
like 35, 40, sure, if you want to have

a shack in Goa, it used to be my dream
when I worked like that too. But I want

to have a shack in Goa, not wear shoes,
have fish fry all day, you know, and

that's what I wanted to do.

As I realized that there's something, I
love my job and I love being able to

create in very different ways. I have
the privilege to be in a position that

many have been in and I've created that
by myself.

I don't want to give it up and I don't
want anyone to take it away from me.

my legacy for my children and for the
future generation that may not have even

seen the potential of something like
that for themselves.

Why would I give it up?

Again, I feel you're helping a younger
version of yourself.

Sure. Somewhere in some other universe.
I like deep sea diving. Let's go.

Okay.

You want to know about one of my
favorite new hobbies?

Yeah. It's watching really old episodes
of Coffee with Karan and then seeing how

everyone's trajectories were in life.

And my favorite episode, one of my
favorites was the one you did, I think,

Arjun Rampal in season one.

Oh my gosh.

I don't even know what I was...

What was I like then?

Very different.

How old was that? When was that season?
2004.

Holy. Wow.

Would you like to know? Yeah. As a
podcaster. Yeah, yeah. I want to know.

2004, that means that's one year into me
being an actor. Yeah.

I feel you're even different from like
three years ago because lots have

happened in those three years.

uh you're even more chill now yeah like
i can i can feel that uh uh you were

very like hyper kind of alpha when i
last saw you in 2019 and in that episode

you're deeply professional and what's
the word conscientious

you were like that. Like you were just,
you're very professional. I think Karan

Johar said, Hey, you know, well done and
all. And your response was, yeah, I'm

just trying to do my best job guys. It
was kind of like that.

I was so nervous. I didn't know anything
about the industry.

I mean, the closest I had come to being
in the business was taking a vacation to

Bombay when I was.

11 years old with my brother and it was
like, wow, Bombay. You know that park

where they have the shoe and the...
Hanging garden. Yeah, hanging. I had

photographs in the hanging gardens even
now and that was like going to the beach

was seeing the queen's necklace. All of
that was all I knew about Mumbai.

The industry was terrifying to me and I
think that's probably why I reacted like

that. It's a great message for young
people because...

Lots of people idolize you now because
of what you've done now without

understanding that it takes something as
simple as that when you're beginning.

Just be professional.

Or just give yourself a break. It's
okay. You just have to do the best you

Survive. Keep your head above water. And
slowly you'll see you'll be walking on

it.

When did you realize that you're
starting to become successful in life?

It's a really tough question because
when I won...

my first pageant, which was Miss India,
I was like, wow, I've won the world. I'm

really successful.

Then I won Miss World.

I was like, how did this happen?

I had no computation of, again, 18, 17.

I had no understanding how it happened.

But what I did understand was the
opportunity it gave me.

Suddenly people knew me, wanted to know
me, gave me new opportunities. There

were movies that were coming my way. I
didn't know anything about how do you

sign a movie. My poor father was a
physician.

He didn't know even more. And he was
highly protective.

They gave up their practice. And for two
working doctors who were very

successful in Bareilly, and this is
something I didn't even think about till

was like 30 years old, gave up
everything to pursue my 19 -year -old

My 19 -year -old opportunities that
even.

When someone sees your life the way you
speak about it, there's a lot of

blessings at like a lot of points.

You believe in karma?

Absolutely. You believe in...

I do. Do you think about what you did in
your previous life to get this life

now? I hope so. I do. And I always think
about it like if you think, why do I

have, why am I lucky enough to have the
life that I do?

And some other woman somewhere else with
the same opportunity, with the same

desires, same ambitions, same, you know,
needs, doesn't have any of it.

I really think about that a lot.

It makes me feel like there must be
something I did right. I wake up every

with a sense of gratitude and I wake up
every day with wanting to give back,

whether that's with the person that is
standing right next to me or whether

is a life choice that I might make.

But giving back.

I think is so crucial when it comes to
being grateful. I'm highly grateful for

everything that I have. And I do think
that maybe I did something right, that

I've been blessed with the opportunity
of having the life, being born to the

parents that I was, being able to have
the opportunity of making my own

having agency in my own life. If you
think about women around the world, so

don't have that. Complete choices are
made for themselves.

But my parents told me, you have to have
your opinion.

What a privilege.

Yeah, that's a part of the blessing,
being born to those parents.

I mean, that's the biggest one,
probably. Yeah, completely.

Wow. Okay, hold on. I got to take my
thoughts and just put them together. I

be speechless.

No, no.

Okay.

With this whole journey, and this is a
question that's been sent in from a lot

of people who I spoke to before this
chat.

Firstly, I want to tell you that you
inspire men, women, everyone.

It's not about you just inspiring women.

Okay. But I think you've shown a lot of
women possibility.

Like an entire generation needed to be
shown possibility, which has happened

through people like yourself.

Who's supposedly born exactly in your
age bracket to set the tone for like 80s

born, 90s born, 2000s born. I absolutely
agree. I was talking to somebody else

about this yesterday.

A young actor who was talking to me.

And I really did say that my generation
of women changed.

the trajectory of the next generation of
women. My co -actors, female co -actors

that fought to be the face on the
poster, that fought for agency in the

that a lot of women didn't get before
us, just opened the doors for the

generation after us. And I think not
just for women, but people. Our

and every generation will always have a
prototype that will be better than us.

Because we have... change the landscape,
right? And that's a huge responsibility

on all of us. I remember Marycom being
one of the first female -led films. And

now so many films are female -led. That
did commercially well at that time,

yeah, I remember.

Mainstream female -led. Yeah, mainstream
female -led.

And now there's so many female -led
films.

And that's the thing, like, that's
another, sorry, not to put you on the

but films are films. And we still talk
about female -led films as female -led

films. We don't say that's a male -led
film.

This person's film, Amit Khan's movie.
Oh, we're watching a male -led film

today. I hear you, but I'm also talking
on behalf of the Indian masses.

Completely. But that's, as a vocabulary,
we need to change that. Female athlete,

female politician, female actress. Why?

Actress, politician, athlete.

What is your message for, okay, I'm
going to ask you, what's your message

generally? And what's your message for
girls? And I'm also going to give you a

supplementary point and say that this is
not the end of the podcast. Is that one

at a time?

It's not the end of the podcast.

See, there's so much more to unpack.

But I actually do want to ask you a
message for young ambitious women out

My sister, my girlfriend, my friends,
everyone had this exact question for

What's the message for the girls who are
starting out their careers?

I think it can be very scary.

We, I mean, this generation of girls is
fearless and there's so many girls that

take charge of their own lives and they
say, you know, I'm not going to fit into

the cookie cutter mold that probably my
mother did or my grandmother had to.

And it's so, like, I have goosebumps
right now just thinking about it. I meet

many young women who have changed the
trajectory of their families because of

the choices that they've made.

I think my message would be that there's
a lot of noise.

Around us.

Narratives. Yeah. And people that tell
us to be a certain way, that people that

tell us that, you know, I was talking
the other day about someone that when I

went to convent school, I had this thing
called moral science, a subject called

moral science, which taught me how, you
know, women shouldn't be, women should

be seen, not heard.

The length of our skirts, how we should
sit with our legs.

There's so much that has been told to
women that to be a good girl, you have

be a certain way.

Good girls don't make history.

You know what I mean?

Bold girls make history.

Bold people make history.

So if you want to be the lead actor of
your movie, which is your life, you've

got to take choices that might be
contrary to what you've heard. And that

empowerment may or may not come from
your parents, may or may not come from

family or boyfriend or whoever you're
around. It comes from you. And that...

no one can do you know i again was lucky
maybe because my parents gave me that

but i try to remind young girls
specifically that if you don't have that

don't have that encouragement in your
home try to find it in your gut because

one's going to fix your life but you or
try to find it from content and i'm not

just speaking on behalf no it's true it
is really true try to find inspiration

from people that inspire you i have been
inspired

Every day by collaborators that I work
with. The reason I take new steps is

because I see someone else doing
something new and I'm like, wow, this is

good idea. How did this person do it?
But I don't just sit with that.

I think about what is that new idea in
my life?

What can I do that will make me feel how
I feel about this person?

It's about that feeling.

It's about imbibing from the people
around you.

It could be someone you admire on
television. It could be someone in your

It could be someone that you work with.
But when you see something that you

admire about someone, imbibe it.

All this is exactly why I love that
you're taking up entrepreneurship as

next step, like very actively. You've
been an entrepreneur in the past, but

you're going like all out and saying
that, okay, this is like the next big

I also feel that...

uh people my age but actually younger
than me gen z deeply entrepreneurial

everyone wants to start like that
absolutely uh and i'm sure you see this

difference between like 80s and 90s born
people and then the next one uh how did

this entrepreneurship thing start pc
like where did it start and how how far

you want to take it i don't know i don't
think about the future i'm not someone

who i plan for the future but i don't
think about how far I can go. I mean,

knows what my future holds for me. But
what I can think about is my present.

And like I said, I like to imbibe from
people that I know. You know, your

is so bright that there's conspiracy
theories about you that you may deal

the devil to achieve this level of
success.

That you're a satanic worshipper.

Horrible. It's that level of success
that you reach. Oh, she's very upset

me.

Sorry, but go on, go on.

No, I just think that, like I told you,
I like to imbibe from the people around

me. When I was becoming an actor, I
didn't know anything about acting.

I used to sit and watch my co -actors. I
used to sit and watch why they did what

they did.

So this came from a really funny
thought. My mom, as soon as I turned 30,

She's an entrepreneur. She's a doctor.
She created her own business.

But as soon as I turned 30, she sat me
down and she said, look, you're in

Bollywood. Your shelf life is over.

You know, nobody, all these 50 -year
-old actors only want to work with the

girls in their 20s. So after 30, you're
not going to have a job very much. You

know, just like you start planning for
your future.

So what about making your own movies?

You know, starting production.

And at that time, it was really funny
considering I'm 40 and I still have a

active acting career.

But it was foresight on her end in an
industry which kind of told women that,

you know, when you're 30, sorry, you're
too old.

So I started getting interested in
production, just thinking about the fact

I was going to lose my day job.

And then that became really interesting
to me. The business of entertainment

started becoming really interesting to
me. I used to talk a lot to my producer

friends, producers that I was working
with. What are the choices they make?

are movies made? So you have a cost of
production. You have to recover your

of production to make profit.

So I started getting into what margins
look like and just understanding that.

And that was fascinating to me because
it's so creative.

There are so many ways to be able to
create something.

And I think once I started doing
production and I started working in

knew my manager happened to be a venture
capitalist and she was really into tech

and stuff.

So I was very interested in, and at that
time she was just a collaborator, but I

really got interested in investments.

And I started with small investments in
little things. And then those things

became really big, like Bumble. When I
brought Bumble into India, I mean,

changed the dating scene in India,
especially for girls.

And that just showed me the power of
being able to have a new idea. And the

at that time was when Bumble was
launched around the world and Whitney,

dear friend of mine, and launched it,
she left Tinder to make Bumble because

saw the gap in the market.

We want to be able to create a safe
space where women have the first

opportunity, where women can take the
first step. And that was such a

plan. And what I said to her was...

India needs it the most because of
especially the unsafe circumstances

which girls have to survive and live in
sometimes in India. And it's being used

in tier three, tier four now.
Absolutely. How beautiful is that? Like,

have goosebumps just thinking about the
fact that this came from an idea.

So ideas are what was really interesting
to me. And then being able to work with

people who can help me execute ideas is
what really started the entrepreneurial

journey in me.

First, I started with investing. And
Anomaly is my first brand that I founded

myself with the help of Mesa.

Thank you.

With the help of Mesa that were market
leaders and leaders in incubating new

brands, specifically in beauty.

And then Nykaa, of course, bringing
them. But I really lean on my partners

learn from them. And I just love the
fact that you can have an idea today and

monetize it. Why not?

You're not just...

reduced to. I won't say reduced to
because I come from a family of doctors

engineers. But at that time, in my
parents' generation and the generation

that, it was doctor, engineer, lawyer,
military, government job. Like those

or six things that everyone had to aim
for.

But today, like, I think my generation
of parents are not going to have those

boxes for our children, right? You have
an idea, let's run with it.

I have this little crystal ball with me
everywhere that I go that only I can

see. And it shows me the future.

I think you're going to be a multi
-billionaire.

From your mouth to God's ears, please.

Remember the moment we had before the
shoot began? I said, I don't want to

to you until the camera starts rolling
and the lights went off.

But I also generally want to talk about
that crystal ball a little bit.

And what it tells me.

Everyone knows that going to America was
very good for the career, the material

aspect of life.

I feel it helped you a lot as a person
as well.

America does have this very different
entrepreneurial energy. It's got like

little like accepting energy. As long as
you're willing to work hard, the

country just accepts you.

You'll be able to create further
opportunity yourself.

But now I will let you unpack.

I just I feel I feel it's been great for
you. And the harsh truth, I'm going to

say it online, is that India finds
things cooler when they become cool

and then come back. I mean, that's a
fact.

Like Swami Vivekananda is used as one
example. That's our colonial background.

We still haven't been able to shed that.

We have a lot of equity on things that

come from the West. That I agree is a
fact.

But no, it's not the easiest thing to be
an Indian in America.

It's not easy.

Even Priyanka Chopra said that?

I mean, yes, I've had a, I started
working in the States in 2010.

And in 2020, after 10 years of working
in the industry,

I started with music and then pivoted
into acting in America.

So I started in 2010 for context. In
2020, I got my first leading role.

How long did it take me?

10 years.

So people don't think about how much
hard work, how much consistent knocking

doors, how much humility it takes to go
to another country and start from

scratch. I had built an incredible
career here, amazing credibility here.

And I got an opportunity to do music and
people were curious about the fact

that... because I could sing, what that
could be. And I'm a big fan of the music

industry anyway.

We in India are monopolized by Bollywood
when it comes to music so much. For

now. I hope so. I hope so. That we've
not really been able to bifurcate into

pop. pop music or pop culture when it
comes to music. It's still very niche.

I was really a big fan of music and
musicians and very excited about that

opportunity. Went there, worked with the
most incredible musicians and quickly

realized that I'm not as good as them.

And I should go back to my day job.

I'm very astute when it comes to, I
don't lie to myself.

I'm very honest to myself.

So I did the music. I love the music
that I did for myself, but it wasn't my

standard of excellence.

It was good. It was fun. Stayed on the
radio, was successful, sold a lot of

but it wasn't my lane.

And that made me want to dabble in
acting as well and see if there was an

opportunity there.

But it required me to strip every single
thing that I knew in India and the

laurels that I had achieved in India,
the awards that I had won, the movies

I had done, the box office successes
that I had seen. It required me to walk

into rooms with extreme humility and
introduce myself to people, to take my

showreel and say, this is the work I
have done.

I would love to work with you. I would
love to see if there's an opportunity

with you.

I remember I had to do, I mean, I've
done so many small roles in big movies

Hollywood. But that's what it took for
me when I started here too.

A lot of people used to say to me, oh,
she's left doing Bollywood movies to do

small roles in Hollywood.

It started with every new actor starts
there. You have to start with from the

beginning. And I don't sit with that.

you know, if I'm successful in one
country, then everyone in the world

treat me like I'm a queen.

It doesn't work that way.

Which is the case for a lot of big stars
in our country.

I don't know about that, but most people
expect.

and anticipate that if you're treated a
certain way or if you're making a

certain amount of money in a certain
country, you're going to be treated the

same way because everyone is waiting in
Hollywood to cast you, right? They're

just waiting for Priyanka Chopra. We
were just waiting for you to come only,

Priyanka. Change the trajectory of
movies.

Of course, Hollywood is not the same
without you. It doesn't work that way.

You have to go. You have to pound the
pavement.

You have to walk in. You have to be
rejected. You have to audition.

you have to work around the culture of a
new country.

And that was so hard. I had to swallow
the humility pill and I was willing to

that hard work. And then 10 years later,
I finally got my leading role in a

movie. I finally got the same
remuneration as a man, which I never did

Bollywood. I have never got the same
check as my male co -actor, even if my

is the same, even if I've held the movie
as much as I can.

Finally, I got it in 2021.

After 21 years of working.

So it seems like, oh my gosh, America
was so great for you and Hollywood was

awesome. But the tears that it took when
you move to a new country with no

friends, no family, working with people
that...

don't know you and don't know what you
are able to achieve.

When I first started doing Quantico, my
co -actors did not understand the hoopla

around me. They were like, why is, like,
who is this person?

Like, why are you, you know, the lead
of, that was the first time I got a lead

role in a television series.

And they just couldn't understand why.

And it required me to just, you know, be
humble and say, I'm okay. This is a new

environment. It's easy to go.

fishing from your boat. But when you
have to go deep sea diving, it's a

completely different thing. You have to
learn according to your environment. So

no, it wasn't easy. It was very hard. It
took a lot of sweat, tears and blood

from me to finally be able to reach
where I have reached. So when you say,

know, I don't want to pass off the work
that it took to get there and the time

and the commitment that it took to get
there.

But look at you now.

Look at me now.

I'm still at the beginning. That's what
I'm saying. It's the first movie that

I'm doing as a lead part. Who knows
where else I'll go.

Again, the mainstream narrative though
on you is that things have just gone

upwards. I love that you're saying this.
Because I'm not someone who talks about

my struggles too much. Why don't we talk
about your struggles a little bit?

That's it.

You have to ask me the question.

Did people try jeopardizing your career
here, there, at any point? Because

that's... the one thing i'm slowly
learning about success like the moment

start climbing that ladder there's too
many people who don't like that you're

climbing the ladder and try pulling you
down i don't know unfortunately i feel

like in india we've been taught that
mindset we are not people as

a people very few of us are happy for
somebody else's success because we we

again i think my hypothesis

And I don't know, I'm not someone who's
an expert on the field. But my

hypothesis is that, you know, we were
colonized till 1947.

I agree.

We just about, not even been 100 years,
we've just about been our own country,

our own people. It's divide and rule,
but on an emotional level. Exactly.

And our generation has to recognize
that. Our generation has to say, hold

hold on.

Why is my natural instinct when someone
is successful is to be jealous?

Why is my natural instinct when someone
is successful to be envious?

Why is my natural instinct not saying,
wow, you've done so great. Let me add on

to this person. Let me push you forward
because then you're pulling me forward.

There is such a strength in numbers,
which we don't recognize. If we only

collectively banded together and
supported.

other successful people in our field, we
would be unstoppable in the world. We

are one fifth of the world's population.

But we've never been able to take our
own stand because of that reason. I feel

this is something we can learn from the
West.

They fear each other more than what we
do. Probably. Probably. I don't know

about where that learning comes from.
But I just...

Just like you, I've also had people
wanting to jeopardize my career. Like

used to happen?

I don't know, take away from work, make
sure that I wasn't cast just because,

you know, I was doing well in what I was
doing. But that's not what stopped. I

don't sit and wait and harp on. I mean,
maybe I'll cry one night or the other

when an opportunity was taken away from
me. But I don't sit in the shit.

You know, you can sit in the shit and
then you'll start smelling of it. And

you don't even know you're smelling of
it because you've got so used to it. So

then you just become dark and negative
and you'll never move forward.

You have to shut off the noise.

There are many people that will want to
pull you down, but don't focus on that.

Focus on the one person that believes in
you.

Focus on the light, little sliver of
light that you might see, a little bit

inspiration that you might see. And
that's the hardest thing to do because

you're bogged down by baggage.

You're bogged down by shackles of people
holding you down. So you have to really

push forward. And that's just
individual.

Do you have that inside of you to fight
that fight for yourself?

Or are you going to wait for somebody
else to do it? That's an individual

choice. Let's talk about that little
sliver of light.

I don't know how else to put this, but
is that God for you?

Is that the higher power?

I mean, a lot of it is. I really do
believe in destiny.

I believe in, I'm someone who has a lot
of faith.

I pray a lot.

How do you pray and what do you pray
for? I do puja almost every day. I do

gratitude.

What's your interaction with the higher
power?

Thank you.

It starts with thank you. It starts with
thank you for my health. Thank you for

my life. Thank you for my family.

Thank you for my life, lifestyle.

Thank you for my ability to be a nice
human being, to be a grateful person.

And then I'll ask for a few things too.

What are you asking for now, PC?

Manifest it.

I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I
don't think that I believe.

Listen, a lot of people believe in the
secret and the vision board and all of

that, but it's not something that ever
worked for me. I tried it.

I had a vision board. I put shit up on
it and I was like, okay, this is what I

want to achieve. But I didn't focus
enough on it for it to work.

For me, what has always worked is having
the small next dream, you know,

the next step.

So that you always have to take a step
up in the ladder to be able to get to

top. You can't get to the top by flying
up. Human beings don't fly.

It's a way of saying manifest something
achievable. Yes.

And then slowly you'll turn around and
say, oh, whoa, look at this legacy I've

created. But if you have unachievable
dreams, something that seems too out of

the ordinary, then you're waiting for a
miracle.

And miracles don't happen very often.

You have to create it for yourself.

So what's the next step in your big
dream? If you want to buy a car, say,

example, you have to figure out how much
it's for.

So if you have to buy anything for 100
rupees, then you have to make that 100

rupees.

So you have to work backwards from your
goal. So if my goal is one thing, I'll

work backwards. And what is the first
step in that goal, I'll take that. Then

the next step in that goal and slowly
you'll buy your car.

What would you like to change about this
whole journey till this point? Is there

anything you'd like to do differently?

Yeah, I'd like to tell my younger self
not to have stressed out so much.

I used to have a lot of anxiety
around...

Losing my job, losing my position.

Losing time.

No, never time. Because that's a very,
very common thing now with teenagers,

with college. Everyone's afraid that
they're getting too old. When they're

I mean, I'm not afraid at 40 of getting
too old yet.

Yeah, well, that's your glass ceiling
for you right there.

What do you mean? I mean, you're telling
yourself you're too old at 18.

It's like everyone's aging. That's the
one thing as a fact we know, birth and

death. That's going to happen to all of
us.

You have to age.

Like that's something to really come to
terms with early on in your life.

I feel aging feels really nice.

Like it makes me feel very chill.

Why are we putting so much equity on
aging?

That's the one thing we know that is
going to happen.

What is the stress around it?

You're going to get older.

I mean, yeah, I feel like I did when I
was still 18.

Like I'm going to get older. And who am
I right now at this age is what's

important. What is my best opportunity
at 18, at 25, at 35, at 60?

Who is it that you want to be?

I was just doing an interview with
Falguni Nair and she started and started

Naika at 50.

Like that was her idea.

And she built it into an empire today.

So age ain't nothing but a number.
That's a real, real fact.

We put too much equity on age. It just
doesn't matter.

What matters is what you do about your
life in the moment right now.

It's also the people around other people
telling them that they're getting too

old. So then don't keep those people
around you. Break up with them. Bye.

Peace out.

Keep the people around you that are your
champions.

And maybe this is also something I
realized when I'm older, but I tell

people this all the time. Do not hang
around with poisonous people.

Do not keep people around you that are
toxic, that mess with your brain. Keep

people around you that are genuinely
happy for you.

Only people that are genuinely happy for
you. And if that's two people, you're a

rich person.

Meeting you was a very big turning point
for me. I mean, I'm saying that again.

In what way?

saw what you are in truth you know in in
reality who you are right so many

people put on masks on the show even
today i've done so you are 12th episode

i've done 400 now wow and we still have
lots of people putting on masks and

you're just the same person you're very
real very professional very very polite

like i can sense people can sense the
kindness and that's the joy of

that you really get to know who the
other person is over a long nice

conversation like this But it's not easy
to be a public person.

Like, you know, we talk a lot about and
we point a lot of fingers at celebrities

and public people.

It's a really hard job.

It is so hard to be dinner table
conversation every single day.

It is so hard to walk into a room and
know that somebody is going to be

about me when I leave.

Good, bad, ugly, not my control.

It is so hard to wake up every morning
and know that I am for public

consumption. And it can be an opinion
that is completely the opposite of who I

am. People could think I'm unlikable.
People could say that I'm a horrible

person. People could say I'm
unprofessional. That's not my truth.

But I can't change that opinion.

So if I sit and read every comment or
every negative thing on social media or

keep wondering about the paranoia of
when I walk out of a room, what is

saying? Oh my God, I'll never be able to
achieve anything.

But it's so hard. Cut people a break.

Cut public people.

Everyone aspires to be a celebrity.
Everyone is like, oh, I want to be

and I want to be in that position. But
nobody sees how hard it is.

Like it is so hard when you are going to
a shadi. Suppose you're family ki

shadi. And everyone is talking about you
and pointing fingers at you. Can you

imagine how you'll feel?

Do you still go for family functions and
all that?

Can you? Can you? Because it's the same
fame angle.

Means? You reach like this level of
fame. I can't imagine you. So you're

I'm not going to dance on the bharat of
my brother's wedding?

Maybe. Maybe nahi bhai. Of course.

My cousins, my brothers.

Family is most important to me.

My fame is a by -product of my job.

It does not define me. My fame is not my
job. It's very clear to me.

I am not famous for a living.

I work for a living.

And fame comes with it.

So it's not something I can control.

That's something that trusts upon me.
The reason I'm asking you such incisive

questions is, again, I'm trying to learn
like you. Like you're setting the bar

for the media professionals.

And that's what I meant the last time as
well. I realized that this is what it

takes. You know, this kind of
professionalism, this kind of energy.

So don't get me wrong. No, I'm not
getting you wrong at all. I'm just

elaborate on something that people don't
really think about sometimes.

You know, public people, even though
you're seeing a celebrity or someone

day on like billboards or magazines,

there's still a human being behind them.

They also like to eat paratha and achar.
They also like to sit in a, like we

also like to sit in a palti and dance at
the barat of your cousin and make sure

that you get, you know, great food.

The desires of a human being is the
same.

The needs, or at least the people that I
know. I keep my friends, my family.

I'm a very grounded person. I come from
the ground and I'm going to stay there.

And the day I behaved a certain way, my
mom would put a tapli on my head and

say, come back to earth, buddy.

Does it happen now?

Because I don't need it. I don't come
from a place of arrogance.

Okay, gotcha. I never did. I mean, I may
have had a little bit of that when I

was in my early 20s where I was like,
wow, I'm famous.

Everyone knows me.

And then quickly I realized when six of
my films flopped that it doesn't last,

buddy. You have to consistently keep
working. So I never rest on my laurels.

That's your downfall right there.

All right.

Too much to absorb here.

I do have one final question.

This is great.

That's how we get the views.

Thanks for the views PC.

So anyway.

Views are like drugs for YouTubers.

True. Okay.

So here's my honest question.

In terms of success. I genuinely mean it
when I say that.

Like in the modern day. You're one of
the most successful human beings.

On this planet.

After seeing so much success. What have
you understood about the meaning of

life?

What has life become after that?

Like why do you have to keep going?

Why can't we all just.

Go to beaches or meditate. Or become
monks.

You can.

Okay what's your meaning of life?

I think the meaning of life is having
purpose.

We're born. And we'll die.

What you do in between that.

Is. Your legacy. And if your legacy is,
you know, walking with sand between your

toes and living in a shack and being
happy and meditating, sure, it's an

individual choice. Success is very
subjective.

To each person is their own. My success
might be completely not attractive to

somebody else's success, you know. So
the equity that we put on...

you know, you're the most successful,
one of the most successful people on the

planet, whatever, great. That's my
version of it.

You know, but somebody else's version of
it could be completely different. But I

really believe that what your purpose in
life and what you do between birth and

death is what counts.

So the pursuit of anything else is just
futile.

The pursuit should be, what am I doing
in my life? What do I want to do in my

life? Who do I want to be? Who do I want
to touch? What do I want to create? Do

I want to create? Or maybe I don't want
to create.

And all of it is fine.

As long as you're at peace with the
choices you make.

So make choices that make you feel
peaceful.

Gotcha. All right.

PC, another epic episode.

Any signing off notes?

Well, the only thing I'll say is the one
thing you didn't talk about was I'm

very excited about the multiple things
that I do. But the one thing I'm really

and the reason that I have come back and
I really wanted to come back to Bombay.

But launching Anomaly in India really
helped me, you know, have a reason to

back right now. Because now I don't have
a home in Bombay.

You always have a home in Bombay. Bombay
is my home. The whole of Mumbai is my

home. But, you know, like.

Becoming a founder was terrifying
because that's not what I do. It's not

something I knew.

But creating hair care, understanding
why do I want to get into beauty,

skin, which one should I do?

What is the gap? That learning of
creating a brand, which I'm so proud of.

not for the fact that, oh, I've created
a beauty product, but the fact that I

found a white space.

which I could create a product that you
would have spent five times more money

to buy.

And the Indian new consumer is very
aspirational. You know, we want to take

of ourselves. We want to look our best.

We want to get the best brands in the
world. We're aware, especially that Gen

that you're talking about.

But we're also aware about what we're
putting in our system.

We want to eat good. We want to try good
stuff.

So I'm very proud of Anomaly because it
hits that trifecta.

We make all our packaging from 100 %
recycled trash, from ocean -bound

to landfills. So we pick up trash and we
create these bottles. And because we're

making our bottles from plastic trash,
we didn't spend too much on it. That

us more of a budget to have really
excellent formulas.

And when you use it, you will know.
Please keep a bag for Ranveer.

Looking forward.

We'll be bathing in some anomaly
tonight. Yeah, you will.

And another thing. is that marketing has
always told us men's hair care needs

and women's hair care needs are
different. Hair is made of the same

Don't fall for this marketing thing.

Anomaly is for anyone who has hair on
their head.

Please use.

And also the fact that it is clean. It
has none of the bad stuff that usually

formulas and shampoos do. If you read
the ingredients of any shampoos, you'll

see things like... Sulfate, silicones.

Like that stuff should not exist in your
shampoo. Mineral oil exists in

shampoos. Mineral oil goes into your
car.

Why is it on your head? Can you imagine
what it is doing to your scalp and your

system? It's crazy.

But to be able to create something which
is clean, affordable, sustainable, and

excellent at the same time is something
I was really, really proud of.

And when we brought it to Nykaa, we on
the first day sold one anomaly product

every seven seconds.

And that just was amazing to me.

And then we had repeat customers.

And in the last three months, we're the
top 10 hair care brands on Nykaa. And

they have like some 400, 500 hair care
brands.

So it just makes you feel really proud
of the fact that you've made something

good. And whenever you make a good
movie, it's the same feeling. I'm sure

you have a good podcast.

Like this one? Yeah, like this one,
hopefully.

Like, yeah, man, I did something good.

So it's a really good feeling.

Yeah. Priyanka Chopra sharing her
blessings with the world.

That's all I'll say. I'll say one more
thing though.

I think it's just the beginning of your
business career and you're going to like

really flourish. The same energy is
going to enter this and it's my crystal

ball. I hope your crystal ball is right
this time. It's telling me the truth.

You're one of those people who just
touches something and it turns to gold.

it doesn't just turn to gold. In the
long term PC.

You have to work towards making it gold.

That's your perfectionism speaking out.
No, it's not. It's just the truth. You

don't think so?

You cannot touch something. Only Midas
could do that. You cannot pick up

something and say, oh, it's going to be
great. It took a year and a half of

research, of trying Anomaly on my
friends, my family, my team. They were

lab rats sitting and thinking about what
the font should be, where the rose gold

should be, should the trash be up front,
what the smell of it should be.

All of that takes work. You just see the
end of it and you say it's gold. It's

gold because of the work that's gone
into it. Yeah, I meant that you're a

manufacturer of gold. And you said you
believe in reincarnation. So what if the

modern day Midas is like reborn as
Priyanka Chopra? Oh boy, what a thought.

I wish I had a collection of real gold,
buddy. I'd be so rich.

I think you do.

It's just not the gold that the world
recognizes as gold. It's all the

that are with you. The blessings that
you spread.

Priyanka Chopra, thank you for blessing
TRS again.

Thank you so much. The last time was a
turning point. This time it's going to

a rocket. I know it.

So I'm saying this extremely humbly, but
you're a good luck charm.

Trust me. Thank you. I hope so.
Especially for our team, but generally.

you so much luck and love. And I know
that, you know, you've expanded and done

so well so far. And I hope your
trajectory is always just up. Thank you.

I will repay you. I don't know how, but
I will. It means a lot. Thank you so

much. Thank you, PC.

Of course.

So right after this episode, I felt
extremely enriched with information.

I felt motivated and I felt sure that.

The podcast is going to take off once
again because of all that good luck that

rubbed off on us.

My hope and request to Priyanka Chopra
is that she visits us in our home studio

because this room and this studio brings
out the best from guests.

Sometimes we're limited on set because
of multiple reasons.

Mostly it's time constraints.

But I feel that the culture of
podcasting is improving a lot in India.

remember when we had done our first
episode with her.

India didn't even know what podcasts
were, honestly. I didn't know how to

podcast. If you go and actually listen
to that particular episode, you'll be

able to tell how far we've come. I used
to actually hold a sheet full of

questions back then. That's how early we
had began this journey. And now we're

almost 400 episodes in with a Hindi
language podcast as well.

Hoping to have Priyanka Chopra on that
one. Also hoping to have her on the

English podcast once again.

And here's wishing her all the best for
her entrepreneurial journey with

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