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Sometimes
we're all a little careless.
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Me dead. Oh!
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And tell these
dickheads in the embassy
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to just give me simple sentences.
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I'm on a prescription drug
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and they say certain things
may happen to you if you drink
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and they were absolutely 100% right.
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Politics can be
a bruising sport.
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In countries all over the world,
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populations are getting older.
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Some countries provide good care
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for their ageing populations.
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Many countries are worried
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about the rapid increase
in the number of old people.
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It's a problem that
gets bigger every year.
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In Australia,
governments seem to think
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that old people and their care
don't win elections.
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But what's it like
to be an older Australian?
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If we're lucky,
this will be us one day.
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Let's go into the kitchen
and make a cup of tea.
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Oh, yeah. I'm gonna
need some help, I think.
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Yeah.
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See, it's because I...
I'm not concentrating.
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It's all right.
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I don't know whether I can.
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- You'll have to pull me up.
- Oh, okay. Sorry.
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- Oh!
- Yep, yep, yep.
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- There I am.
- Oh, we did it!
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How's your arm?
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Okay, are we stable?
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Yes, I'm stable now.
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Just stand and look ahead
and just take a breather.
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Oh, my goodness.
That was full-on.
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Oh, you poor girl.
I'm so sorry.
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No, it's fine!
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- Yeah, bash up your daughter.
- Normally...
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Yeah, just you watch what
you're doing on your feet.
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Yes.
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So did you ever
imagine that you would end up
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having to consider
going into aged care?
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Never. Never, never
in my wildest dreams.
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Why?
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Because it was
like a black mark against you
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if someone had to go into a nursing home
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when they had family.
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It was all on the families.
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I think that's a good point,
to be honest.
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Do you know, that's why
I'm making a film about it.
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It was nice
meeting you guys.
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You might make a fortune
out of this, you know?
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Then you'll be careful!
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Oh, dear.
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So thanks for doing
whatever it is you do.
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You just walk behind me, dear.
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Do you know
your My Aged Care number?
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No.
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And what about myGov?
Do you know how to access that?
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MyGov? Well, ask the operator.
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Okay, here.
We can ring My Aged Care.
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Why are you ringing them?
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'Cause we've gotta
ask them about your respite...
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Oh.
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...and see if they
can help us.
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Welcome to My Aged Care.
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Our calls are recorded for
training and quality purposes.
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If you do not wish
for your call to be recorded,
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please advise
your contact center agent.
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When you had to
become a single mum,
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when Dad and you separated,
was that hard?
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Oh, terribly.
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That hurt me because
I wanted my children
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to be brought up by the same people
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and live a very ordinary life.
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On the whole,
my life has been all right,
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but old age is nothing to be
pleased about, in my opinion.
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It was better to be
an older person in the '50s.
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At least that's what I think.
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Governments used to take
better care of older people.
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That's how I remember it.
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I think it probably changed
at the end of the '60s
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and there was a rapid increase
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in for-profit providers
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and they really were
interested in the money.
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Hello.
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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I'll let you in now.
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Mum, remember
I told you the idea that I had
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of getting young people
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to narrate a film about old people?
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- Yes.
- So these three
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have been part of the narration team,
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- 'cause there's a few people doing it.
- Well done, girls. Well done.
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- And do you have grannies?
- Yes.
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And how old are they?
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My gran is around 72.
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Oh, that's good.
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I'm much older than that.
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Well, how old are you, Mum?
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I'm, um, 80... 89.
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Are you going to be in the film?
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Yes.
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Oh, well done.
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- Thanks.
- Thank you.
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Absolutely marvelous.
And I'm sure you'll star.
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Once upon a time,
a Labor prime minister was elected.
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His government
decided to do things differently.
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They wanted to work closely
with the business community.
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We are about a fundamental change
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in the way government operates
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and the way it cooperates
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with important sectors
of the Australian community.
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Hawke's treasurer was a man named Paul.
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We were
not trying to run prosperity
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out of the Commonwealth budget.
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Rather, we wanted to employ the markets
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to make the whole economic pie larger.
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From Keating onwards,
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you've got the march
of neoliberal groupthink.
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Governments come and go.
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Then, a Liberal named John
became prime minister.
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He decided
to do things differently.
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Welcome to our show-and-tell
on the Aged Care Act.
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To begin our presentation on ageing,
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we're going to read a bit from
the 1997 Australian Aged Care Act.
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"The objects of this act are as follows."
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"To provide for funding of aged care
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- that takes account of..."
- "The quality of the care..."
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"The need to ensure access
to care that is affordable..."
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"And appropriate to the needs
of the people who require it."
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Basically, what the government
is saying here
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is every older person will have access
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to affordable aged care
as they grow old.
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In reading the Aged Care Bill,
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it would appear that nursing homes
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have disappeared and vanished
from the face of this earth.
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George Orwell would be proud of this bill.
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It should be called the
Aged Care Bill of 1984, not 1997.
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I must point out that there is
general agreement
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throughout much of the aged care sector
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that the lack of capital care funding...
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in particular, for nursing homes,
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estimated to be approximately 800 million
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constitutes nothing less than a crisis
which must be urgently addressed.
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Say hello to my grandma.
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That's not your grandma.
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Grandma represents everyone
who needs care in Australia.
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Before 1997, Grandma and her friends
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felt the care was already going downhill.
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The government didn't like
spending on aged care anymore
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and the money they did spend
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was incentivizing
nursing homes to make money.
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Not great for Grandma.
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But if Grandma thought
things were bad before 1997,
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she had another thing coming,
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and that thing coming was privatization.
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That's where the government said,
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"Hey, who wants to make money off Grandma?
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We don't want to be
responsible for Grandma's care.
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You can do it."
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So they gave aged care
over to private companies
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who were very happy about it.
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Ageing is an industry
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worth over $22 billion a year,
and growing.
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Today, nursing homes are marketed
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more like hotels than hospitals.
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The elderly no longer patients,
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rather customers.
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You don't call
most people "consumers."
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I think that's quite
a demeaning, derogatory term.
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Most of the consumer... consumer...
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consumer... consumer... consumer...
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All consumers are... Consumers...
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The thought of them
just ordering a glass of wine
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or, you know...
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I mean, these people are struggling
to have their dentures put in.
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Well, you're more
like selling a cruise.
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You're selling a cruise
with extra packages.
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You're not selling a service
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that's keeping your mother,
father or whoever
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safe, well-looked-after and happy.
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You know, it's stuff on top that's fluff.
It's fluff.
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I think it is fair to say
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that we have commodified
the elderly in Australia.
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They're walking profit targets
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when you've got big corporates
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who are making a lot
of money out of them.
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The fact that they were able to, you know,
release prospectuses
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and say, "Hey,
literally profit from the elderly,"
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that was one of their sub headlines,
like, it's crazy to me.
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John Howard had set the ball rolling
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on a system that was
dramatically outsourced
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but that was suddenly
running out of money.
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What he basically did
was opened it up to the free market.
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They are sacrificing older people
for the good of the economy.
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Many older Australians
in residential aged care
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are still not getting
the minutes of care per day
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that they should be.
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Advocates say the for-profit
sector is most at fault
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and there needs to be better scrutiny
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on how government funds are being spent.
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I love the radio
and I learn such a lot.
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There's very interesting talks
by interesting people, in my opinion.
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Yes, we've got a good relationship,
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the radio and me.
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If I'm going to die,
I'd like to die here,
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surrounded by my family.
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That's the most important thing.
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If I'm on my own somewhere,
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I'm going to be very frightened.
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I know I am.
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It's quite a common feeling,
I've discovered amongst aged people.
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We lose all our "doing stuff
on our own" decisions.
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It will be a group decision that's made,
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not an independent decision.
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The fear of death and dying
and the taboo around that
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and the fear of losing agency
and losing control,
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they go very, very deep
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and the reality is both of those things
do relate to aged care.
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There's no sort of shying away from that.
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There's no aged care
services at Batchelor.
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It would be nice if there was.
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So the pressures on family members
can be very overwhelming.
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As a carer, going in to help
my sister do her insulin,
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it was very scary and daunting,
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but she didn't want to go to
an aged care facility.
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Having her daughter there
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and her grandkids coming
and great-grandchildren
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and her siblings come and visit,
and friends,
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at her home...
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she still felt like she was the queen
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in her own environment,
and that was important to her.
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It just helped her stay alive
for a bit longer.
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Of course, we all want to do our bit
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to be able to share
in our responsibilities
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and obligations to family members
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to make sure that they get
as much support in their decision
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either to stay at home
or to go into respite care.
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None of my family
actually wanted respite care,
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'cause they thought they had
enough family members
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that could come
and look after them anyway.
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Do you mind if Jeremy
puts a microphone on you?
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So we're just gonna
stick this on the inside.
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Just actually I think we'll go between
the jumper and the thing.
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So I'll get... I'll feed this...
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Probably the easiest way is feeding it
from upstairs to downstairs.
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Why are you... What are you...
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We're gonna put
a microphone on you.
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We're doing a little
bit of filming with Sue.
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- Yes, I know.
- Oh, great.
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But why do you need
to listen to me?
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Because you'll be talking.
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Because we want
to hear what you're gonna say
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'cause we're just gonna film
you in the car with Mum...
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Oh, right.
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...going to the nursing home.
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Where?
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We're going to visit
that nursing home.
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That's what we're doing today.
We're going to look at...
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We'll be gone for half an hour,
coming back, that's it.
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So we just want to hear
what you think
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of the nursing home,
we're gonna look at today.
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You can just be honest, Mum.
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- Mm-hmm.
- So I'm just gonna put this one down.
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Oh, good glasses, Granny!
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Oh, they look so cool, Granny!
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You've got to put
some purple in it. Yes.
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- Love you, Granny.
- Love you too.
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See you soon.
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So this place we're going to,
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my friend, Mum, I told you is there.
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Right.
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Two of her children are doctors
and they did their research
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and said this place
is one of the better ones.
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All right.
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Ageing is often something
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we think happens to other people.
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It's not something
that's ever gonna touch us.
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The same thing doubly so for aged care.
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"Aged care is something
that other people go into.
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It's not a system that
I'll ever need to go into."
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Most people think this way.
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Well done.
Okay, can you just stand here?
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I'll get your handbag and mine.
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Most people try and keep
their older person at home,
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however, the burden of that,
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the weight of that for a carer
who's providing all the care
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is often too great.
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The person who generally
gives the care is a woman,
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either the spouse or the daughter.
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The idea of sort of being
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in someone else's hands so completely,
like you are in aged care,
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it's very confronting to our sense
of who we are as competent people,
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as people who are making choices in life.
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I'm an only child
and my parents had me
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relatively late for the time.
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So Dad was 45 when I was born
and Mum was 35.
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Dad was a mineral metallurgist
by trade,
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but he had so many
other interests and hobbies.
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So he loved classical music.
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He loved jazz. He played jazz piano.
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He loved reading.
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He had a giant library that
I was given free rein of,
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full of inappropriate books
that, you know,
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probably should have been
withheld from me at that age.
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He was a wonderful, wonderful dad.
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He was diagnosed with
Parkinson's when I was 18.
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He had a relatively kind of slow decline
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and then it kind of caught up with him
and, eventually,
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kind of with great reluctance,
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we had to move him into aged care.
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And at that moment,
pretty much instantly
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Mum and I felt that
we constantly were worried
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that things were being missed.
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He was having lots of falls
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because he wasn't
medicated at the right time.
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And then we had
a sort of really awful crisis
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where a whistleblower came to us
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and mentioned that a staffer
had been deliberately kind of abusing Dad.
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I presumed it would be relatively easy,
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that I would make a complaint
to the regulator,
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the regulator would
investigate the complaint.
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And then when that didn't happen,
then I went to the police.
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And eventually I realized
that it wasn't just bad luck,
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that it was the system.
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And so then when the Royal Commission
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into Aged Care
Quality and Safety was called,
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I made a submission to that.
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The room belonged
to an 85-year-old woman with dementia
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whose identity is protected.
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Within hours of putting
the camera in place,
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this is what it captured.
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A warning. The footage
is very confronting to watch and hear.
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Terrible revelations of abuse
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against some of society's
most vulnerable
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have prompted the Prime Minister
to call a royal commission into aged care.
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I just could not get past
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what was occurring in our
residential aged care sector.
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I solemnly and sincerely...
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- Declare and affirm...
- Declare and affirm...
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- That the evidence I shall give...
- That the evidence I shall give...
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I was sort of nervous
about my father's privacy.
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I was nervous about my family's privacy.
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And then I thought,
"No, it's the right thing to do."
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So in your statement, you
detail that from about 2016,
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you start noticing some issues.
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It was when Mum and I would go and visit,
we would often find Dad disheveled,
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in unclean clothes...
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Aged care's an issue
that's poorly understood by most people
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because they don't want to think about it,
I understand.
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I'd never given it a moment's thought
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before we had to move Dad into care.
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She'd verbally abused him and told him
that she was "sick of his shit,"
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um, that she left his wheelchair
away from the bed
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so that he was left completely immobile,
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and the whistleblower
also mentioned to my mother
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that the reason that she'd told us
and not the facility
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was that if she told the facility,
it would get swept under the carpet
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and absolutely nothing would be done.
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There was so much publicity
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about abuse and lack of care
in aged care.
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I think that many, many family members
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would consider
the care that their relative receives
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as being careless.
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What a tragedy that an old person
at the end of their life
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is treated with such disrespect.
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So, you see, it's not just
breaking down in the nursing homes.
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It's breaking down everywhere.
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It's our humanity.
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How did things get so bad?
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Why was care forgotten
and profits put before people?
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Perhaps it had something
to do with this guy.
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Doug Moran was a man with a plan.
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I suppose it could be
compared to a five-star hotel
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for the residents that are
going to come in here.
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This is one of our private rooms,
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which has an ensuite bathroom
attached to it.
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It's being built by Doug Moran,
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the country's largest
private nursing home operator.
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Moran lobbied to introduce
the user-pays principle
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into nursing homes.
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I mean, there's almost no doubt that
Doug Moran was heavily involved
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in writing the 1997 changes
with John Howard.
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And he rallied the rest of
the for-profit groups around him.
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Someone who's got power and money
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and who believes they can
actually dictate the outcome.
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The Federal Government introduced
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a user-pays system for nursing homes.
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Elderly people stood to pay
up to a quarter of a million dollars
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as a bond for their accommodation.
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And the government
has to accept their responsibility!
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The government's
under pressure to overturn its decision
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on nursing home entry fees and bonds.
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John Howard had said,
"We'll give you accommodation bonds,"
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and Moran was so disgusted he didn't
get them, he quit the Liberal Party.
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There's got to be some good
aged care providers out there.
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And there are,
there are places that do it well,
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and isn't it a shame
that they get a bad name
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based on the others.
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00:26:11,183 --> 00:26:14,766
- She seemed very nice.
- Yeah, they all seemed nice.
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Yes, they do.
401
00:26:17,433 --> 00:26:21,266
No, I think that's definitely
one of the top ones so far.
402
00:26:21,267 --> 00:26:22,683
Yes, I think...
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00:26:26,808 --> 00:26:28,766
I'd have to talk to people now.
404
00:26:28,767 --> 00:26:32,141
I'm getting worried about finances.
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00:26:32,142 --> 00:26:34,516
Yeah, if you move
into something like that,
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00:26:34,517 --> 00:26:36,141
what do you do with your flat?
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00:26:36,142 --> 00:26:38,308
Yes, I'd have to sell it.
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00:26:43,392 --> 00:26:45,266
We'll go and see a financial adviser
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00:26:45,267 --> 00:26:49,307
so you don't have to sell your flat
in case you want to go home.
410
00:26:51,308 --> 00:26:54,307
I think if I make
the effort to go somewhere,
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I'm not going to want
to go back home...
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00:26:58,183 --> 00:27:00,599
however nice that sounds.
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00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,017
Yeah.
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00:27:06,183 --> 00:27:10,682
Oh, dear, it's exhausting
doing all these things.
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00:27:10,683 --> 00:27:12,641
Now we're done anyway.
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00:27:12,642 --> 00:27:15,517
- We've looked at five now.
- Four.
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00:27:17,683 --> 00:27:20,307
Four. I've read all about them.
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00:27:20,308 --> 00:27:23,807
All right, if you get
to the point where you go,
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00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:27,224
"I can't live alone,
I can't do it, I'm too lonely,
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00:27:27,225 --> 00:27:29,432
I don't like the weekends,"
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00:27:29,433 --> 00:27:31,225
- which is what...
- I hate the weekends.
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00:27:32,183 --> 00:27:34,016
And why do you hate
the weekends?
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Because everyone's out
having fun, fun, fun
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00:27:39,267 --> 00:27:40,642
and I'm not.
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00:27:49,267 --> 00:27:51,808
Oh, pardon me.
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00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:54,392
Oh!
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00:28:09,975 --> 00:28:12,391
I'm here today with Minister Butler
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to announce the Government's new policy
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on the future of aged care.
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00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:18,432
When Labor
were last in government,
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they picked up the baton
from where Howard started.
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00:28:20,975 --> 00:28:25,307
They introduced the so-called
"Living Longer, Living Better" reforms.
433
00:28:25,308 --> 00:28:27,099
I'm sure that was more for industry,
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not for the actual recipients of care.
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00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,725
And that really just put
everything on steroids.
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Today, we announce
the most sweeping reforms
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to our aged care system
in almost 30 years.
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In designing these reforms,
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we've listened
to stakeholders in the sector
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who have worked with us very closely.
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Aged care in Australia
is industry-driven
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00:28:47,642 --> 00:28:51,057
and it's a partnership between
government and industry.
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00:28:51,058 --> 00:28:52,974
Industry... Industry... Industry...
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00:28:52,975 --> 00:28:55,807
The community have been
largely disenfranchised.
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00:28:55,808 --> 00:28:57,932
Yeah, they've been
shut out of the system.
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00:28:57,933 --> 00:28:59,807
We will also finally introduce
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a single system of
accommodation charging,
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00:29:03,183 --> 00:29:06,182
reflecting the principle
of ageing in place, which...
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00:29:06,183 --> 00:29:08,766
So with the help
of a Labor government,
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the industry finally had their bonds.
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00:29:11,683 --> 00:29:13,724
John Howard was spooked
by the reaction
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to wanting to introduce
accommodation bonds.
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00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:19,682
And so Mark Butler,
whether he wants the crown or not,
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is the guy that finished Howard's reforms.
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I'm Olivia Dorothy Cornwell
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and I'm 94 years of age.
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00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,516
She's a miracle.
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00:30:07,267 --> 00:30:09,808
This is my daughter Jane
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00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:14,432
and she's a journalist
and she lives in London.
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00:30:14,433 --> 00:30:18,141
She and I are in contact
in some way or other
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00:30:18,142 --> 00:30:20,267
pretty much every day.
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00:30:22,933 --> 00:30:25,141
My knees are a bit sore.
463
00:30:25,142 --> 00:30:27,224
When I was a preschool teacher,
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I used to put out planks
for the kids to jump
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00:30:30,767 --> 00:30:32,599
and I'd have a plank under each arm.
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00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,807
I'm sure that's responsible.
467
00:30:34,808 --> 00:30:36,475
Oh, look at the parrot.
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00:30:40,142 --> 00:30:42,225
I'm a Mallee girl.
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00:30:43,267 --> 00:30:48,474
I was born in Birchip
in the north-west of Victoria.
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00:30:48,475 --> 00:30:51,642
I was trained to be
a preschool teacher
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00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:55,600
and then I went overseas.
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00:30:56,850 --> 00:31:01,016
I went to the
Buckingham Palace Garden Party
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00:31:01,017 --> 00:31:03,432
and the Queen was cross with me
474
00:31:03,433 --> 00:31:07,142
because I didn't curtsy
like everybody else was doing.
475
00:31:08,392 --> 00:31:10,432
One minute, we were all standing up,
476
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:12,599
the Queen appeared, I looked around
477
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,349
and everybody was down there
and I hadn't...
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00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:19,517
And she really did give me
an unpleasant look.
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00:31:21,892 --> 00:31:25,307
I came back from England
and I did some more preschool teaching,
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00:31:25,308 --> 00:31:28,557
but then I decided
I'd like to be an air hostess,
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00:31:28,558 --> 00:31:30,308
as we were called in those days.
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00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:36,224
Then I met my husband Alan.
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00:31:36,225 --> 00:31:38,474
We eventually married.
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00:31:38,475 --> 00:31:42,307
And then our beautiful daughter Jane
was born
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00:31:42,308 --> 00:31:47,891
and Alicia was the next one,
and Chris was the next one.
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00:31:51,392 --> 00:31:54,641
My husband liked outdoor sport
487
00:31:54,642 --> 00:31:56,432
and he was very fair-skinned
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00:31:56,433 --> 00:32:01,392
and he got a melanoma
and he died when he was 73.
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00:32:02,892 --> 00:32:06,016
I suddenly lost interest in everything.
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00:32:06,017 --> 00:32:07,807
I didn't want to do anything.
491
00:32:07,808 --> 00:32:11,516
I got a couple of rather
unpleasant illnesses
492
00:32:11,517 --> 00:32:14,682
followed by depression
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00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:17,474
and my doctor suggested I spend
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00:32:17,475 --> 00:32:21,849
a few... a couple of weeks in respite care
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00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:24,849
and the place I went to was wonderful.
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00:32:24,850 --> 00:32:27,849
I always associated old people's homes
497
00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:33,224
with dear old ladies and bingo,
you know, so...
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00:32:33,225 --> 00:32:36,391
But I went there for a couple of weeks,
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00:32:36,392 --> 00:32:38,724
and it was amazing.
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00:32:38,725 --> 00:32:41,057
But after two weeks,
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00:32:41,058 --> 00:32:42,974
I felt like I was living in a bubble.
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00:32:42,975 --> 00:32:45,516
I thought, "Now, I'm still mobile.
503
00:32:45,517 --> 00:32:48,849
"I don't really want to spend
any more time here."
504
00:32:48,850 --> 00:32:52,224
'Cause you went into respite
with a view to long-term staying.
505
00:32:52,225 --> 00:32:54,349
So we got you a room with a courtyard,
506
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:56,099
I'm back here because I thought
507
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,266
I was going to have to
sell the house to pay for...
508
00:32:59,267 --> 00:33:02,057
Well, I had no intention of staying there.
509
00:33:11,808 --> 00:33:15,599
I just love living at home.
It's just great.
510
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,057
I love my garden,
I like playing the piano
511
00:33:18,058 --> 00:33:20,266
and I'm very keen on jigsaws.
512
00:33:20,267 --> 00:33:23,182
I'd like to spend a lot
more time doing jigsaws.
513
00:33:23,183 --> 00:33:25,766
Oh, and I like to attract the birds
514
00:33:25,767 --> 00:33:30,017
even though the cockatoos
come and take all the seed.
515
00:33:32,058 --> 00:33:35,142
I love to be independent
and do my own thing.
516
00:33:36,475 --> 00:33:39,307
The more research
I started doing about aged care,
517
00:33:39,308 --> 00:33:41,891
it became obvious
that there was a way
518
00:33:41,892 --> 00:33:44,599
that you could get help
living in your home.
519
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,016
And what I was told was that
520
00:33:47,017 --> 00:33:50,142
to be able to stay in your home
was the goal of the government.
521
00:33:50,267 --> 00:33:52,557
You know,
they have a vested interest
522
00:33:52,558 --> 00:33:55,391
in keeping, you know, people at home.
523
00:33:55,392 --> 00:33:58,392
They have to come out and inspect
and I remember saying to you,
524
00:33:58,517 --> 00:34:00,766
"Please act as doddery as you can."
525
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,391
Most people that you speak to
526
00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:09,391
say that they want to grow old
in their own home.
527
00:34:09,392 --> 00:34:11,974
So it's all very well and good
for an older person
528
00:34:11,975 --> 00:34:15,557
to have their home modified and cleaned
529
00:34:15,558 --> 00:34:17,432
and to get their nursing care
530
00:34:17,433 --> 00:34:20,599
and their medication
management in their home...
531
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,557
but if they walk down the street
532
00:34:22,558 --> 00:34:26,432
and nobody knows their name
or cares to say hi to them
533
00:34:26,433 --> 00:34:28,724
or, you know, would even notice
534
00:34:28,725 --> 00:34:32,183
if they didn't step outside their door
for a couple of days...
535
00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:36,849
There have been
some really harrowing stories
536
00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:38,266
coming out of home care
537
00:34:38,267 --> 00:34:40,516
just as there have
out of residential care.
538
00:34:40,517 --> 00:34:43,516
The problems in home care
are lesser known
539
00:34:43,517 --> 00:34:45,266
because they're not monitored.
540
00:34:45,267 --> 00:34:48,099
There's a huge degree
of vulnerability in home care,
541
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,016
so I don't think
we want to romanticize it
542
00:34:50,017 --> 00:34:53,642
and say everything's great
so long as you can stay at home.
543
00:35:18,017 --> 00:35:19,474
Hello.
544
00:35:19,475 --> 00:35:21,766
- Hi, Mum. It's me.
- Yeah.
545
00:35:21,767 --> 00:35:23,933
I'll be there in about 20 minutes.
546
00:35:25,142 --> 00:35:26,516
20 minutes.
547
00:35:26,517 --> 00:35:30,474
And is Lola going to do
that bit of shopping for me?
548
00:35:30,475 --> 00:35:32,974
Yes, she's definitely gonna do that.
549
00:35:32,975 --> 00:35:34,891
And where are we going to go?
550
00:35:34,892 --> 00:35:38,432
Given what happened,
we're gonna go and look
551
00:35:38,433 --> 00:35:41,308
at a couple more aged care places.
552
00:35:42,350 --> 00:35:44,266
Oh, okay.
553
00:35:44,267 --> 00:35:47,267
We'll sort it out when you get here.
554
00:35:48,308 --> 00:35:51,599
You just drive past this one
555
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,474
because it's Glen Huntly Road.
556
00:35:53,475 --> 00:35:55,766
Right, is that the one we went to?
557
00:35:55,767 --> 00:35:57,766
No, no.
558
00:35:57,767 --> 00:36:01,224
And then there's another one, this one.
559
00:36:01,225 --> 00:36:03,474
So we'll just have a look
out the car window
560
00:36:03,475 --> 00:36:06,307
and you think about,
you know, what you think.
561
00:36:06,308 --> 00:36:07,849
Mm-hmm.
562
00:36:07,850 --> 00:36:09,682
Can you put them in your bag?
563
00:36:09,683 --> 00:36:11,517
- Oh, okay.
- Hang on.
564
00:36:13,892 --> 00:36:15,183
Here.
565
00:36:17,183 --> 00:36:19,474
We're actually out the back, Mum.
566
00:36:19,475 --> 00:36:21,224
Right.
567
00:36:21,225 --> 00:36:23,557
Just... I'm gonna
shut your front door.
568
00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:27,391
Yeah, they're coming
and they'll lock it.
569
00:36:36,475 --> 00:36:39,267
Big step. Watch your head.
570
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,474
Okay, I'm gonna just
change those hearing aids.
571
00:36:43,475 --> 00:36:45,224
You've got them in the wrong ears.
572
00:36:45,225 --> 00:36:48,391
- Oh!
- Anyway, that's the right way.
573
00:36:57,933 --> 00:37:00,057
Where are we going now?
574
00:37:00,058 --> 00:37:02,474
We're gonna go and show you
575
00:37:02,475 --> 00:37:05,974
- the two aged care places up here.
- Oh, that's right. Yes.
576
00:37:05,975 --> 00:37:07,891
You can see just from the outside.
577
00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:09,849
- Yes.
- So they're...
578
00:37:09,850 --> 00:37:12,057
Because what was your criteria?
579
00:37:12,058 --> 00:37:14,599
You said you wanted them around this area.
580
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,225
Yes.
581
00:37:17,517 --> 00:37:20,766
- Anything else that you...
- No, no.
582
00:37:20,767 --> 00:37:23,349
I'd just like to be left alone.
583
00:37:25,392 --> 00:37:28,516
- In the place or now?
- In the place.
584
00:37:28,517 --> 00:37:30,641
What, you don't want people
coming into your room?
585
00:37:30,642 --> 00:37:34,517
No, I don't want thousands
of people coming in and out.
586
00:37:37,433 --> 00:37:40,849
The Aged Care Act was
supposed to help old people,
587
00:37:40,850 --> 00:37:43,807
but were these changes
really about helping Grandma
588
00:37:43,808 --> 00:37:46,475
or just making private companies
more money?
589
00:37:49,142 --> 00:37:52,099
They were coming for the money,
no doubt about it.
590
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:55,349
If you look at the aged care providers
591
00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:58,224
and the owners and the CEOs,
592
00:37:58,225 --> 00:38:01,349
some of them are on the BRW rich list.
593
00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:04,391
They live in mansions,
they drive luxury cars,
594
00:38:04,392 --> 00:38:07,391
yet they're constantly crying poor.
595
00:38:09,433 --> 00:38:13,099
The industry was sought
as independent experts
596
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:16,682
to the newly created
Aged Care Financing Authority,
597
00:38:16,683 --> 00:38:19,516
such as the CEO of Bupa.
598
00:38:19,517 --> 00:38:21,307
You know, Bupa is the biggest
599
00:38:21,308 --> 00:38:23,849
private aged care provider in the country.
600
00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:25,849
They had a shocking track record.
601
00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:30,182
That's a provider that time and again
has failed care standards.
602
00:38:30,183 --> 00:38:31,891
There were so many of its homes
603
00:38:31,892 --> 00:38:35,974
that had failed with the regulator,
but they were still operating.
604
00:38:35,975 --> 00:38:37,599
By 2019,
605
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,016
over half of Bupa's 72 nursing homes
606
00:38:41,017 --> 00:38:44,766
were failing to meet
all the health and safety standards.
607
00:38:44,767 --> 00:38:48,432
When you look at the failures
over the last 20 years in aged care,
608
00:38:48,433 --> 00:38:51,724
it really is a story
of provider influence.
609
00:38:51,725 --> 00:38:54,433
First and foremost, that is the issue.
610
00:38:57,267 --> 00:38:59,849
There is no doubt that the regulator
611
00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:02,682
is absolutely captured by industry.
612
00:39:02,683 --> 00:39:04,057
The regulator says,
613
00:39:04,058 --> 00:39:06,307
"Can you not do that?
You're embarrassing us.
614
00:39:06,308 --> 00:39:09,182
But, you know,
we'll let you get away with it
615
00:39:09,183 --> 00:39:12,641
if you, you know,
tick some boxes on a piece of paper
616
00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:14,974
and say that you will never
be like that again."
617
00:39:14,975 --> 00:39:16,474
The fox is guarding the hen house.
618
00:39:16,475 --> 00:39:19,932
There does seem to be something of
a revolving door, if you like,
619
00:39:19,933 --> 00:39:23,557
between industry
and government positions.
620
00:39:23,558 --> 00:39:26,182
It's the same list of names
that have been moving
621
00:39:26,183 --> 00:39:30,433
from government to regulation to industry
and back again for 20 years.
622
00:39:33,142 --> 00:39:35,849
For myGov enquiries, press 1.
623
00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:39,641
For assistance with
a myGov linking code, press 2.
624
00:39:39,642 --> 00:39:43,016
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625
00:39:43,017 --> 00:39:46,391
For Medicare online enquiries, press 4.
626
00:39:46,392 --> 00:39:50,766
For Australian Taxation Office
online enquiries, press 5.
627
00:39:50,767 --> 00:39:53,724
If you're an ATO customer
service representative,
628
00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:55,266
press 6.
629
00:39:55,267 --> 00:39:57,932
To hear these options again,
please press 9.
630
00:40:09,892 --> 00:40:13,599
For assistance linking your
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631
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,141
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632
00:40:15,142 --> 00:40:17,641
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633
00:40:17,642 --> 00:40:20,307
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634
00:40:20,308 --> 00:40:23,725
You may need to contact
the member services directly.
635
00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:40,516
I might have to go
into that place a bit sooner.
636
00:40:40,517 --> 00:40:43,849
- What place?
- The nursing home.
637
00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:46,016
Do you want to go
into a nursing home?
638
00:40:46,017 --> 00:40:47,932
- No.
- Why?
639
00:40:47,933 --> 00:40:50,517
Not at this moment in time,
640
00:40:51,308 --> 00:40:57,432
because I've got enough
faculties still going.
641
00:40:57,433 --> 00:41:01,557
There are a few that
are going down the tubes, but...
642
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,224
That's the trouble with old age.
643
00:41:07,225 --> 00:41:10,974
It's... a lot of it is very frightening.
644
00:41:10,975 --> 00:41:14,099
You find you can't do heaps of stuff.
645
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,224
- Mmm.
- Um...
646
00:41:16,225 --> 00:41:22,391
For instance, I used to think
cooking was quite an honorable job.
647
00:41:22,392 --> 00:41:25,516
I can't
be bothered with it now.
648
00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:29,016
I'd rather starve to death.
649
00:41:29,017 --> 00:41:30,724
- I would!
- That's not good.
650
00:41:30,725 --> 00:41:33,516
What about, you know,
you used to catch the bus
651
00:41:33,517 --> 00:41:38,599
to go and see movies,
book clubs, walking group.
652
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,224
You had so many things...
653
00:41:40,225 --> 00:41:42,807
Yes, I did and I loved them all,
654
00:41:42,808 --> 00:41:45,767
but it wasn't right anymore.
655
00:41:46,767 --> 00:41:48,557
Yeah, now you don't...
656
00:41:48,558 --> 00:41:52,641
Now I go out to the doctor.
657
00:41:52,642 --> 00:41:56,682
About the only one I see!
658
00:41:56,683 --> 00:42:00,641
The long-awaited final report
from the Aged Care Royal Commission
659
00:42:00,642 --> 00:42:03,807
has delivered a damning assessment
of the system
660
00:42:03,808 --> 00:42:06,517
which is supposed to protect
the country's most vulnerable.
661
00:42:08,308 --> 00:42:10,974
I was waiting
for the report
662
00:42:10,975 --> 00:42:12,599
from the Royal Commission
to come down.
663
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,849
I mean, it was our Four Corners,
664
00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:17,724
our two-part Who Cares? stories
665
00:42:17,725 --> 00:42:19,724
that actually prompted
the Royal Commission.
666
00:42:19,725 --> 00:42:23,599
Scott Morrison got in
the day before the first one went to air,
667
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,433
so he got ahead of it.
668
00:42:25,892 --> 00:42:27,391
This is the first of many volumes...
669
00:42:27,392 --> 00:42:30,807
Morrison got out there
and brandished a copy of the report,
670
00:42:30,808 --> 00:42:32,307
you know, saying effectively,
671
00:42:32,308 --> 00:42:34,266
"Now we've done something
about aged care,"
672
00:42:34,267 --> 00:42:36,307
where the journalists had only been given
673
00:42:36,308 --> 00:42:39,474
access to the report 20 minutes beforehand
674
00:42:39,475 --> 00:42:41,807
and then he never did
a press conference again.
675
00:42:41,808 --> 00:42:44,849
You tabled
the report while we were here.
676
00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:46,099
How can we ask questions...
677
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,266
He didn't like
being questioned.
678
00:42:48,267 --> 00:42:49,849
He thought
he would get a free run.
679
00:42:49,850 --> 00:42:52,182
The Department of Health
and the regulator
680
00:42:52,183 --> 00:42:53,974
put a submission into
the Royal Commission...
681
00:42:53,975 --> 00:42:56,099
I'm the Prime Minister.
This is my minister.
682
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,182
Our cabinet will decide
683
00:42:58,183 --> 00:43:00,474
our response to this
Royal Commission, okay?
684
00:43:00,475 --> 00:43:02,349
- So is this...
- So we've released it.
685
00:43:02,350 --> 00:43:04,308
I think I've answered your question.
Thank you.
686
00:43:05,767 --> 00:43:11,682
I think it says a lot about
how we regard older people.
687
00:43:11,683 --> 00:43:14,932
We do regard them as disposable
688
00:43:14,933 --> 00:43:17,099
after a certain period of time.
689
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,974
They're insignificant.
They're not important in our lives.
690
00:43:19,975 --> 00:43:22,099
Thank you.
691
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:24,516
I don't think
any of the politicians
692
00:43:24,517 --> 00:43:27,099
are thinking, "Oh, this is
a system I'd like to go into."
693
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:30,641
They're not thinking, "Great! We've solved
it. I'm gonna be right when I'm old."
694
00:43:30,642 --> 00:43:32,641
They're thinking,
"Thank God that I earn so much
695
00:43:32,642 --> 00:43:34,932
"that I'm not gonna have to
be touched by this system."
696
00:43:34,933 --> 00:43:36,724
You know, that's... that's the reality.
697
00:43:36,725 --> 00:43:39,641
And, you know,
what we should be doing
698
00:43:39,642 --> 00:43:43,349
is stepping back from
all of this and saying,
699
00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:45,932
"What do we all actually want
when we get old?"
700
00:43:54,767 --> 00:43:56,474
The majority of the people
701
00:43:56,475 --> 00:43:58,766
have worked their entire life
and have been paying tax
702
00:43:58,767 --> 00:44:01,516
and have been contributing
to the community
703
00:44:01,517 --> 00:44:03,141
and when they're older,
704
00:44:03,142 --> 00:44:06,599
I think everyone
deserves to have a good life
705
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,641
and to have a secure home,
a safe home,
706
00:44:09,642 --> 00:44:12,349
and I hope that I can contribute
707
00:44:12,350 --> 00:44:16,558
to someone's wellbeing
to stay at home safely.
708
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:22,349
I am a care finder
with Housing for the Aged Action Group
709
00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:29,099
and the role is to help
older people over 65 and plus
710
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,808
navigating through the aged care system.
711
00:44:32,350 --> 00:44:33,974
I'm loving it.
712
00:44:33,975 --> 00:44:36,308
Like, that's really a calling.
713
00:44:38,975 --> 00:44:43,182
I have been in the social work
field for about 20 years
714
00:44:43,183 --> 00:44:45,974
so I have been seeing,
like, a lot of changes.
715
00:44:45,975 --> 00:44:47,724
Since it has been privatized,
716
00:44:47,725 --> 00:44:52,892
I don't think the clients
are getting the help that they need.
717
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,849
If you are living by yourself
and don't have, like, a partner,
718
00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:03,307
and you are still fit in your mind,
719
00:45:03,308 --> 00:45:06,266
I still believe the best option for you
720
00:45:06,267 --> 00:45:08,932
would be staying at home
and being independent
721
00:45:08,933 --> 00:45:11,807
and have some support in your home
722
00:45:11,808 --> 00:45:14,099
like cleaning, shopping
723
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:18,141
or someone to take you
to your medical appointments.
724
00:45:33,267 --> 00:45:36,475
My husband's name
was Lewis.
725
00:45:38,517 --> 00:45:42,349
I'd been with him for 27 years, yes,
726
00:45:42,350 --> 00:45:46,142
and, um, I miss him every day.
727
00:45:49,225 --> 00:45:54,182
When my husband died,
I didn't know what I was up against.
728
00:45:54,183 --> 00:46:00,932
I realized that rent was
getting way out of my league.
729
00:46:00,933 --> 00:46:02,933
When I'd get my pension,
730
00:46:03,808 --> 00:46:05,682
I paid my rent,
731
00:46:05,683 --> 00:46:10,142
I had a provision for my utilities,
732
00:46:10,892 --> 00:46:14,141
I could see things diminishing.
733
00:46:17,267 --> 00:46:20,516
- Hello, Hanh.
- Hi, Bev. It's Hanh speaking.
734
00:46:20,517 --> 00:46:23,057
- How are you going?
- I'm good.
735
00:46:23,058 --> 00:46:26,224
We are now on our way to see you.
736
00:46:26,225 --> 00:46:27,517
Bye.
737
00:46:28,975 --> 00:46:31,099
Continue on State Route 22
738
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,933
for seven kilometers.
739
00:46:33,808 --> 00:46:36,641
I was frightened
of what the future held.
740
00:46:36,642 --> 00:46:42,057
I knew that it would reach a stage
where I would be homeless.
741
00:46:42,058 --> 00:46:44,183
So I rang My Aged Care
742
00:46:44,767 --> 00:46:48,182
and along the way, I mentioned
743
00:46:48,183 --> 00:46:54,682
that I would like independent living
if it could be arranged.
744
00:46:54,683 --> 00:46:56,682
And the next thing I knew,
745
00:46:56,683 --> 00:47:01,557
this little lass Hanh
came to my front door.
746
00:47:01,558 --> 00:47:05,516
She put forward plans and we came out here
747
00:47:05,517 --> 00:47:09,225
and I loved the place straightaway,
748
00:47:10,017 --> 00:47:13,142
and, um, here I am.
749
00:47:16,392 --> 00:47:20,891
Once you get the services,
you can stay at home.
750
00:47:20,892 --> 00:47:22,724
A nursing home means death.
751
00:47:22,725 --> 00:47:25,807
I would say, "You no..."
752
00:47:25,808 --> 00:47:27,766
I'll say it in Italian.
753
00:47:29,808 --> 00:47:32,682
"You're not going to put me there,
are you?"
754
00:47:47,558 --> 00:47:50,391
We came to Australia in 1960.
755
00:47:50,392 --> 00:47:53,932
Dad was here, was injured at work,
756
00:47:53,933 --> 00:47:57,599
couldn't come back to Italy,
so we joined him here.
757
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,725
And I was... Loved it.
758
00:48:02,392 --> 00:48:03,891
I was 14 and a half.
759
00:48:03,892 --> 00:48:08,057
I went to work in a factory
and said I was 16
760
00:48:08,058 --> 00:48:10,932
and I worked in a factory for four years
761
00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:13,141
and it was dreadful.
762
00:48:13,142 --> 00:48:16,974
The idea
was that I could go and study,
763
00:48:16,975 --> 00:48:18,807
but then I met Mario.
764
00:48:18,808 --> 00:48:21,891
I met Mario when I was 17.
765
00:48:21,892 --> 00:48:24,641
We went to the Boathouse
766
00:48:24,642 --> 00:48:28,599
and we had a really nice ride
on the river.
767
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,474
He said, "Well, I'm old enough.
768
00:48:30,475 --> 00:48:33,599
We need to get married.
I want to start a family."
769
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,349
I said, "Okay."
770
00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:39,017
And Mum said, "No, too young."
771
00:48:39,850 --> 00:48:43,807
I said, "Well, I feel good,"
and so we married.
772
00:49:01,017 --> 00:49:04,517
Mum asked, "Where you gonna live?"
773
00:49:05,517 --> 00:49:08,599
And Mario said,
"But I do have a house,"
774
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,558
and he brought me to this house.
775
00:49:12,308 --> 00:49:15,891
I said, "Fancy that!
I feel really good in it."
776
00:49:15,892 --> 00:49:17,516
And that was it.
777
00:49:17,517 --> 00:49:21,641
And we have been here
ever since, 59 years.
778
00:49:28,058 --> 00:49:29,974
I always wanted to study,
779
00:49:29,975 --> 00:49:33,974
but Mario said,
"But I think I'm old enough
780
00:49:33,975 --> 00:49:35,724
to start a family,"
781
00:49:35,725 --> 00:49:37,850
but I was only 19.
782
00:49:39,183 --> 00:49:40,641
Oh, he won.
783
00:49:51,933 --> 00:49:57,766
All right, here we go. Afternoon tea.
784
00:49:57,767 --> 00:50:02,599
And then I wanted
very much to start working
785
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,432
and I qualified a social diploma
in community development.
786
00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:10,225
I worked at a community health center.
787
00:50:10,683 --> 00:50:13,891
At the time, I was studying,
working, family
788
00:50:13,892 --> 00:50:17,600
and looking after
Mum and Dad as well.
789
00:50:18,892 --> 00:50:20,849
Let's see, Theresa.
790
00:50:20,850 --> 00:50:24,391
Oh, we still have to wait.
791
00:50:24,392 --> 00:50:27,142
Lovely.
792
00:50:29,642 --> 00:50:31,100
Afternoon tea.
793
00:50:31,767 --> 00:50:37,807
My father passed away July 2002.
794
00:50:37,808 --> 00:50:40,266
- Do you want some?
- Yeah.
795
00:50:40,267 --> 00:50:42,642
Then Mum was alone for five years
796
00:50:43,142 --> 00:50:47,058
and then she was diagnosed
with pancreatic cancer.
797
00:50:48,392 --> 00:50:51,599
There was not even a thought
798
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,517
of Mum going into a nursing home.
799
00:50:55,892 --> 00:51:01,599
The idea of a nursing home
was waiting for death.
800
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,808
I've never known Mum to be selfish
801
00:51:06,850 --> 00:51:09,892
until the last two months.
802
00:51:10,725 --> 00:51:12,183
She said...
803
00:51:13,225 --> 00:51:16,057
"If I had my mother here,
804
00:51:16,058 --> 00:51:18,683
I would spend all my time with her."
805
00:51:19,517 --> 00:51:22,682
And I said, "Mum, I'm 60.
806
00:51:22,683 --> 00:51:24,516
Who would employ me?"
807
00:51:24,517 --> 00:51:27,808
I find my job terribly rewarding.
808
00:51:28,392 --> 00:51:30,391
You depend on your children,
809
00:51:30,392 --> 00:51:32,682
but children do have their own family.
810
00:51:32,683 --> 00:51:34,307
They have their own problems.
811
00:51:34,308 --> 00:51:37,308
They've got their own issues,
their own work issues as well.
812
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,141
Often I am on a deadline
813
00:51:46,142 --> 00:51:51,266
or I will be travelling somewhere
and I just feel like at any moment,
814
00:51:51,267 --> 00:51:54,057
I have to go back to Australia
and sort Mum out.
815
00:51:54,058 --> 00:51:57,891
If you want to put your parent
into an aged care facility
816
00:51:57,892 --> 00:51:59,891
and you live overseas,
817
00:51:59,892 --> 00:52:03,641
to navigate the myGov
or the Aged Care website
818
00:52:03,642 --> 00:52:05,307
is really, really hard.
819
00:52:05,308 --> 00:52:07,892
To get on the phone to anyone
is really, really hard.
820
00:52:09,975 --> 00:52:12,349
I found that
when I was even getting her
821
00:52:12,350 --> 00:52:14,432
up the levels of aged care,
822
00:52:14,433 --> 00:52:16,307
because there's the four levels,
823
00:52:16,308 --> 00:52:19,099
I really needed to be there to do that.
824
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:21,225
I don't think I could have
done it from here.
825
00:52:23,392 --> 00:52:26,057
My Aged Care is the system
826
00:52:26,058 --> 00:52:28,307
of government-funded support
827
00:52:28,308 --> 00:52:30,391
for older people as they're ageing,
828
00:52:30,392 --> 00:52:34,182
which starts
at really sort of low-level,
829
00:52:34,183 --> 00:52:36,641
entry-level support around the home
830
00:52:36,642 --> 00:52:39,724
and goes all the way
through to residential care.
831
00:52:39,725 --> 00:52:42,224
But actually the majority of the system
832
00:52:42,225 --> 00:52:45,517
is geared towards supporting people
in their own homes.
833
00:52:47,017 --> 00:52:49,141
I've spoken to so many older people
834
00:52:49,142 --> 00:52:51,891
who find it completely bamboozling.
835
00:52:51,892 --> 00:52:53,766
And not just older people,
836
00:52:53,767 --> 00:52:56,433
their carers and their families.
837
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:59,891
Just prior to this interview,
I went and looked up
838
00:52:59,892 --> 00:53:04,016
the Aged Care
and the categories there
839
00:53:04,017 --> 00:53:09,892
didn't really suit me at this point
in time of my life and my career,
840
00:53:10,225 --> 00:53:13,558
and so I clicked on "Early Retirement"
841
00:53:14,392 --> 00:53:18,932
and it dropped down into all these boxes
and I went, "Oh, my God!
842
00:53:18,933 --> 00:53:21,849
This is going to take forever to read."
843
00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:24,057
And I've got a PhD,
844
00:53:24,058 --> 00:53:26,474
and I just looked at the first paragraph
845
00:53:26,475 --> 00:53:29,516
and I went, "Oh, I'll look at that later."
846
00:53:29,517 --> 00:53:34,474
And I was thinking about
how I would talk about this
847
00:53:34,475 --> 00:53:39,099
to other Aboriginal
and Torres Strait Islander people
848
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,641
that struggle with myGov.
849
00:53:41,642 --> 00:53:46,766
Accessing a lot
of the services like myGov
850
00:53:46,767 --> 00:53:51,099
would be near impossible
in remote communities
851
00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:56,266
because the Telstra services
are non-existent,
852
00:53:56,267 --> 00:54:00,016
and if they do exist
in remote communities,
853
00:54:00,017 --> 00:54:02,725
it's intermittent.
854
00:54:03,975 --> 00:54:05,682
Like during the wet season,
855
00:54:05,683 --> 00:54:09,557
you might as well say
there's no Telstra communication.
856
00:54:09,558 --> 00:54:12,766
They're talking to you, but it
sounds like they're under water
857
00:54:12,767 --> 00:54:15,058
and you can hardly understand
what they're saying.
858
00:54:17,475 --> 00:54:19,724
Clearly, I'm on
the other side of the world.
859
00:54:19,725 --> 00:54:22,224
It's a real worry to think
that she could fall,
860
00:54:22,225 --> 00:54:23,849
something could happen to her.
861
00:54:23,850 --> 00:54:28,099
I'm so far away.
I am her main point of contact.
862
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:31,891
She has her aged care provider
and they're brilliant,
863
00:54:31,892 --> 00:54:36,350
but it's not like if anything happens,
she can, you know, call me.
864
00:54:39,642 --> 00:54:42,141
Mum has to battle with loneliness.
865
00:54:42,142 --> 00:54:44,308
She watches a lot of television.
866
00:54:45,350 --> 00:54:48,308
She has some friends
who are quite loyal, which is great.
867
00:54:48,433 --> 00:54:52,141
And she does kind of maybe
sometimes overthink things
868
00:54:52,142 --> 00:54:55,266
and I think being on her own
too much is not great.
869
00:54:55,267 --> 00:55:01,349
She's very youthful in her
outlook and in her mind
870
00:55:01,350 --> 00:55:03,141
and I love her to bits,
871
00:55:03,142 --> 00:55:06,391
but that also means
that she might rush at things.
872
00:55:06,392 --> 00:55:09,932
And, you know,
lately we've got her a walker,
873
00:55:09,933 --> 00:55:12,724
a red walker, which we call
the "Mean Machine."
874
00:55:12,725 --> 00:55:15,892
So I have had to encourage her
to use that.
875
00:55:18,142 --> 00:55:21,891
I've set up various
contingency plans, as it were,
876
00:55:21,892 --> 00:55:23,641
but at any moment,
877
00:55:23,642 --> 00:55:26,057
I have to go back to Australia
and sort Mum out.
878
00:55:26,058 --> 00:55:28,142
It's a constant source of stress.
879
00:55:31,558 --> 00:55:33,558
What did you do today?
880
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,557
Uh... not a lot.
881
00:55:38,558 --> 00:55:40,849
No? Did you go for a walk?
882
00:55:40,850 --> 00:55:43,057
Yes, I went 'round the block.
883
00:55:43,058 --> 00:55:45,307
Did you take the Mean Machine?
884
00:55:45,308 --> 00:55:48,600
Yes. Yeah.
885
00:55:49,517 --> 00:55:52,182
Oh, by the way,
I went to the doctor yesterday
886
00:55:52,183 --> 00:55:54,641
and she's given me
a clean bill of health.
887
00:55:54,642 --> 00:55:57,849
Yeah, well, you're a force of nature, Mum.
That's amazing.
888
00:55:57,850 --> 00:56:02,849
Who are those two men
in your house, darling?
889
00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:04,807
Can you see them?
Look. Here they are. Look.
890
00:56:04,808 --> 00:56:06,807
- Lovely. Waving.
- Hey!
891
00:56:06,808 --> 00:56:10,641
Yes, they look rather nice.
What are they doing?
892
00:56:10,642 --> 00:56:12,266
They're filming me.
893
00:56:12,267 --> 00:56:13,974
They're just doing a little film thing.
894
00:56:13,975 --> 00:56:15,724
- Look. There they are.
- Lovely!
895
00:56:15,725 --> 00:56:17,516
All right, off you go.
896
00:56:17,517 --> 00:56:19,182
Okay, darling.
897
00:56:19,183 --> 00:56:21,807
- All right, bye, Mum.
- See you later.
898
00:56:21,808 --> 00:56:24,599
- Waving. Bye!
- Bye, darling.
899
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,142
See you soon.
900
00:56:59,683 --> 00:57:02,725
I get lonely
here on my own now.
901
00:57:03,767 --> 00:57:08,599
Last year, five of my friends died.
902
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,724
One I'd known since I was 16.
903
00:57:14,725 --> 00:57:20,642
I spend at least four hours
watching television.
904
00:57:21,683 --> 00:57:25,975
Most of the time, I can't
work the television properly.
905
00:57:40,142 --> 00:57:44,349
Okay, is that too tight
or not tight enough?
906
00:57:44,350 --> 00:57:45,932
No.
907
00:57:45,933 --> 00:57:48,100
It seems to be all right.
908
00:57:59,433 --> 00:58:01,724
Do you ever get
frightened at night, Mum?
909
00:58:01,725 --> 00:58:04,183
- Mm-hmm.
- Tell me about that.
910
00:58:07,142 --> 00:58:10,392
Well, it's all very quiet.
911
00:58:11,850 --> 00:58:17,641
And I just have to tell myself
that I'm all right
912
00:58:17,642 --> 00:58:21,933
because if I... if I, um...
913
00:58:22,975 --> 00:58:27,808
talked about how I was feeling,
it would make me even more frightened.
914
00:58:39,642 --> 00:58:43,058
See, all this is exhausting for me...
915
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,267
unfortunately.
916
00:58:47,308 --> 00:58:49,099
Is your granny...
917
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:52,974
John, does your granny
manage, like, on her own?
918
00:58:52,975 --> 00:58:55,266
- Yeah.
- Yeah?
919
00:58:55,267 --> 00:58:58,392
- How old is she?
- She's 90.
920
00:58:59,475 --> 00:59:02,891
- Really?
- But, uh...
921
00:59:02,892 --> 00:59:05,682
Is she in a care place?
922
00:59:05,683 --> 00:59:07,349
No, not at the moment.
923
00:59:07,350 --> 00:59:09,307
- She's still at home?
- Still at home.
924
00:59:09,308 --> 00:59:11,517
She's got a lot of neighbors...
925
00:59:12,517 --> 00:59:15,057
uh, who visit her every day.
926
00:59:15,058 --> 00:59:18,057
- Wow. That's...
- But she's a very able woman.
927
00:59:18,058 --> 00:59:20,433
- Isn't that wonderful?
- She's very healthy.
928
00:59:30,017 --> 00:59:32,267
Ooh, it's very dark.
929
00:59:38,475 --> 00:59:41,599
Across the country,
nursing home residents
930
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,932
account for almost 60%,
of coronavirus deaths,
931
00:59:45,933 --> 00:59:49,099
amongst the worst in the world.
932
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:50,724
The pandemic
taught us a lot.
933
00:59:50,725 --> 00:59:55,766
Above all else, I think, that
privatized services don't work.
934
00:59:55,767 --> 00:59:57,558
Particularly when
they're essential services
935
00:59:57,683 --> 01:00:00,141
because in the end,
the government needs to intervene
936
01:00:00,142 --> 01:00:01,807
to make sure we continue getting them.
937
01:00:01,808 --> 01:00:05,224
This is a gig economy,
it's a casualized workforce.
938
01:00:05,225 --> 01:00:06,807
We get paid a pittance
939
01:00:06,808 --> 01:00:09,391
and I need to work at five
different homes in a week,
940
01:00:09,392 --> 01:00:10,891
otherwise I cannot feed my family.
941
01:00:10,892 --> 01:00:14,307
The skill involved in caring
942
01:00:14,308 --> 01:00:16,307
is just not recognized,
943
01:00:16,308 --> 01:00:18,849
completely undervalued.
944
01:00:18,850 --> 01:00:21,266
You don't usually
remember all the machines
945
01:00:21,267 --> 01:00:23,057
and the stethoscopes and the fancy thing,
946
01:00:23,058 --> 01:00:25,016
but you will remember the touch
947
01:00:25,017 --> 01:00:26,724
of the nurse or the care worker
948
01:00:26,725 --> 01:00:28,724
and the kindness, the compassion.
949
01:00:28,725 --> 01:00:32,557
We just don't have
enough of the right people
950
01:00:32,558 --> 01:00:35,600
with the right skills across the system.
951
01:00:37,267 --> 01:00:39,682
I'll just get the bubbles out.
952
01:00:46,975 --> 01:00:48,391
Well done.
953
01:00:48,392 --> 01:00:51,724
Oh, look at this girl.
She's got a pirate ship.
954
01:00:51,725 --> 01:00:53,391
Oh, so she has.
955
01:00:55,017 --> 01:00:57,307
I wonder
if she's going to sail it.
956
01:00:57,308 --> 01:01:01,017
I don't think she'll ever see it again
if she lets it out now.
957
01:01:05,392 --> 01:01:08,766
So, Mum, if you were in
aged care, I could pick you up
958
01:01:08,767 --> 01:01:11,183
and we could sneak out
and do this maybe.
959
01:01:11,850 --> 01:01:13,516
Well, I'll keep that in mind
960
01:01:13,517 --> 01:01:17,891
because, you know, it's nerve-racking
961
01:01:17,892 --> 01:01:23,182
that you're going to go into this place
962
01:01:23,183 --> 01:01:25,141
where you're not alone,
963
01:01:25,142 --> 01:01:28,266
which is one of the reasons
I'd like to do it.
964
01:01:28,267 --> 01:01:30,350
Yeah, 'cause you're not alone.
965
01:01:33,683 --> 01:01:35,724
Do you think you could
ring and book yourself
966
01:01:35,725 --> 01:01:37,391
into an aged care place?
967
01:01:37,392 --> 01:01:39,349
- No, I don't want to do that.
- Why?
968
01:01:39,350 --> 01:01:41,599
But why couldn't you do it
rather than me?
969
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,349
I don't...
970
01:01:43,350 --> 01:01:47,266
I don't want to do many of
the things that you insist on.
971
01:01:47,267 --> 01:01:49,474
- For instance...
- No, but I would like you...
972
01:01:49,475 --> 01:01:51,516
Why do I have to do it?
973
01:01:51,517 --> 01:01:53,557
Now, that's a nice little dog.
974
01:01:53,558 --> 01:01:55,307
Look at that one.
975
01:01:55,308 --> 01:01:57,391
That's cute, like Jerry.
976
01:01:57,392 --> 01:01:59,475
Yeah, a bit like Jerry.
977
01:02:00,350 --> 01:02:02,057
Can you do all the phone calls?
978
01:02:02,058 --> 01:02:05,057
I used to, always. I did everything.
979
01:02:05,058 --> 01:02:07,933
But I don't know.
I've lost the... the will.
980
01:02:08,850 --> 01:02:12,307
But do you think
you could do it without me?
981
01:02:12,308 --> 01:02:13,641
No.
982
01:02:13,642 --> 01:02:16,266
What if I went somewhere
and lived overseas?
983
01:02:16,267 --> 01:02:17,974
- How would you do it?
- Well, you did.
984
01:02:17,975 --> 01:02:20,807
- You went away on holiday.
- Yeah, for two weeks.
985
01:02:20,808 --> 01:02:23,225
I'm talking about,
what if I went for two years?
986
01:02:24,558 --> 01:02:27,725
Well, I'd just turn up my toes and...
987
01:02:33,683 --> 01:02:36,724
It's been such a great thing,
988
01:02:36,725 --> 01:02:39,016
what you've done for me,
989
01:02:39,017 --> 01:02:40,641
because I couldn't have done
990
01:02:40,642 --> 01:02:43,475
many of the things that you've taken over.
991
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,725
And you've done it well.
992
01:03:09,350 --> 01:03:10,807
Come in.
993
01:03:10,808 --> 01:03:12,682
Hello, my dear.
994
01:03:12,683 --> 01:03:14,516
Let me just...
995
01:03:14,517 --> 01:03:16,266
- Whoops-a-daisy!
- Hello!
996
01:03:16,267 --> 01:03:18,392
- Heya.
- Hey.
997
01:03:20,267 --> 01:03:24,016
Now that I have
moved away from your area,
998
01:03:24,017 --> 01:03:26,266
I would like to introduce
999
01:03:26,267 --> 01:03:29,224
another care finder in this area.
1000
01:03:29,225 --> 01:03:32,807
And they will assist me, like...
1001
01:03:32,808 --> 01:03:35,141
- What I do.
- Going shopping?
1002
01:03:35,142 --> 01:03:40,099
That's something that
I am going to find out today
1003
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:42,266
with My Aged Care.
1004
01:03:44,392 --> 01:03:46,182
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1005
01:03:46,183 --> 01:03:49,182
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1006
01:03:49,183 --> 01:03:53,307
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1007
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1008
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1009
01:03:59,225 --> 01:04:01,474
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1010
01:04:01,475 --> 01:04:07,350
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'tips for troubleshooting'...
1011
01:04:08,058 --> 01:04:10,057
Keeping up with technology.
1012
01:04:10,058 --> 01:04:12,932
I'm not frightened of it,
I just can't keep up with it,
1013
01:04:12,933 --> 01:04:15,224
you know, at the present moment.
1014
01:04:15,225 --> 01:04:22,224
Your whole system sort of goes into
a bit of a rut and a grind.
1015
01:04:22,225 --> 01:04:23,807
For assistance
1016
01:04:23,808 --> 01:04:25,891
with a myGov linking code, press 2.
1017
01:04:25,892 --> 01:04:29,141
When they do that thing
where they give you a little...
1018
01:04:29,142 --> 01:04:31,224
code, a special code,
1019
01:04:31,225 --> 01:04:33,099
I say, "Don't do that!"
1020
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:35,099
Because my eyesight
1021
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:38,349
and the rest of me
just can't cope with it.
1022
01:04:38,350 --> 01:04:40,391
To hear these options again,
1023
01:04:40,392 --> 01:04:42,099
please press 9.
1024
01:04:44,392 --> 01:04:46,225
When you can't hear,
1025
01:04:46,725 --> 01:04:49,599
sounds come in at different levels.
1026
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,849
It can be very disconcerting.
1027
01:04:51,850 --> 01:04:55,767
And when they play that music...
1028
01:04:56,808 --> 01:05:01,724
Oh, it can play havoc
with your hearing aids.
1029
01:05:01,725 --> 01:05:04,182
You know,
1030
01:05:04,183 --> 01:05:06,391
sometimes they make funny noises
1031
01:05:06,392 --> 01:05:10,432
and then you're trying to listen
to people on the telephone.
1032
01:05:10,433 --> 01:05:12,182
It's a challenge.
1033
01:05:14,892 --> 01:05:17,182
I would simplify things,
you know?
1034
01:05:17,183 --> 01:05:21,016
Like, I would put a person, a human being
1035
01:05:21,017 --> 01:05:24,224
to answer the phone
1036
01:05:24,225 --> 01:05:27,891
and I would not go, like,
from option A to option C,
1037
01:05:27,892 --> 01:05:31,932
then to option B
and then to option C again
1038
01:05:31,933 --> 01:05:33,766
and then by the time you reach someone,
1039
01:05:33,767 --> 01:05:35,516
it's, like, an hour.
1040
01:05:38,642 --> 01:05:41,807
One last thing
that I also found out...
1041
01:05:41,808 --> 01:05:44,141
I don't know if you're interested at all.
1042
01:05:44,142 --> 01:05:48,057
Knox City Council, around here
they have a talking cafe.
1043
01:05:48,058 --> 01:05:50,891
- They have which?
- A talking cafe.
1044
01:05:50,892 --> 01:05:54,224
It's, like, for people who are over 65
1045
01:05:54,225 --> 01:05:57,641
who are feeling a bit isolated.
1046
01:05:57,642 --> 01:06:00,057
Oh, they might have a book club too.
1047
01:06:00,058 --> 01:06:02,474
They do! They do meet, like, a lot of...
1048
01:06:02,475 --> 01:06:05,016
I love my independence.
1049
01:06:05,017 --> 01:06:08,558
I'll do the best I can to maintain it.
1050
01:06:09,683 --> 01:06:14,308
I am grateful for all those
who made it happen.
1051
01:06:16,225 --> 01:06:18,974
That little lass, she's...
1052
01:06:18,975 --> 01:06:23,475
she's just absolutely wonderful.
1053
01:06:26,308 --> 01:06:27,974
- Thank you, sweetheart.
- All right.
1054
01:06:27,975 --> 01:06:29,641
Okay, I will see you soon.
1055
01:06:29,642 --> 01:06:31,557
You'd think, as a care finder,
1056
01:06:31,558 --> 01:06:34,474
you'd do, like, only linking
someone in My Aged Care,
1057
01:06:34,475 --> 01:06:36,141
but I do more than that.
1058
01:06:36,142 --> 01:06:37,807
- Bye.
- Bye, darling.
1059
01:06:37,808 --> 01:06:39,807
There's a lot of loneliness.
1060
01:06:39,808 --> 01:06:43,516
You rely on some worker
to come to your home
1061
01:06:43,517 --> 01:06:46,767
and to give you that
community connection.
1062
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,642
Which one
was the house you were born?
1063
01:06:57,725 --> 01:07:00,182
- This one.
- And where did you ski?
1064
01:07:00,183 --> 01:07:03,474
Here, there, everywhere,
cross-country.
1065
01:07:03,475 --> 01:07:06,349
And how old were you
when you started skiing?
1066
01:07:06,350 --> 01:07:08,266
12.
1067
01:07:08,267 --> 01:07:12,766
And he's got also...
He won a prize skiing.
1068
01:07:12,767 --> 01:07:15,182
Cross-country championship. Yeah.
1069
01:07:15,183 --> 01:07:17,475
Yeah, yeah, at 12.
1070
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,641
I think at home
1071
01:07:21,642 --> 01:07:27,807
you would have a better quality of life
with support services.
1072
01:07:27,808 --> 01:07:31,141
So your plan
is for you and Mario to stay here?
1073
01:07:31,142 --> 01:07:35,224
I keep on telling him,
"Mate, we've got to keep healthy.
1074
01:07:35,225 --> 01:07:36,974
We've got to keep healthy."
1075
01:07:36,975 --> 01:07:39,849
So Mario might want to go up the ladder.
1076
01:07:39,850 --> 01:07:41,557
I say, "No, no, no, no, no.
1077
01:07:41,558 --> 01:07:43,557
We've got to keep healthy
1078
01:07:43,558 --> 01:07:47,808
because the alternative is much worse."
1079
01:07:48,850 --> 01:07:53,682
We're a proud lot.
We want to be independent as much.
1080
01:07:53,683 --> 01:07:58,475
So we ask for help
when it's almost too late.
1081
01:07:59,642 --> 01:08:02,099
Yes, there is some isolation,
1082
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:05,641
but I think I feel confident
1083
01:08:05,642 --> 01:08:08,808
that we could stay at home a long time.
1084
01:08:11,392 --> 01:08:13,849
I go to the University of the Third Age.
1085
01:08:13,850 --> 01:08:17,141
I love it because not only
do I practice my Italian,
1086
01:08:17,142 --> 01:08:20,350
but the knowledge is great.
1087
01:08:21,392 --> 01:08:24,057
Mario loves his garden,
1088
01:08:24,058 --> 01:08:26,474
can fix anything
you put in front of him,
1089
01:08:26,475 --> 01:08:28,224
but he doesn't want to read,
1090
01:08:28,225 --> 01:08:30,557
he doesn't want to learn anything else.
1091
01:08:30,558 --> 01:08:35,141
So take that away,
and that would be real trouble.
1092
01:08:35,142 --> 01:08:39,557
There would be depression
setting in and all that.
1093
01:08:39,558 --> 01:08:42,641
"No, no, no, no. I don't need
anyone to do the garden."
1094
01:08:42,642 --> 01:08:44,849
And Mario helps me to clean.
1095
01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:46,891
He does the kitchen every night.
1096
01:08:46,892 --> 01:08:52,766
I cook and he does
the dishes, cleaning...
1097
01:08:52,767 --> 01:08:54,724
He's the perfect husband.
1098
01:08:54,725 --> 01:08:58,516
- Hey, hang on.
- Oh, dear!
1099
01:08:58,517 --> 01:09:01,142
Hang on a second!
1100
01:09:05,267 --> 01:09:07,057
There's no such thing.
1101
01:09:07,058 --> 01:09:09,682
You... you could say 98%.
1102
01:09:09,683 --> 01:09:12,849
- All right.
- Leave 2%.
1103
01:09:32,267 --> 01:09:35,807
We can't stay up
until 12 o'clock anymore,
1104
01:09:35,808 --> 01:09:38,558
but we dance together.
1105
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,182
The first time I sat with him
1106
01:09:55,183 --> 01:09:59,057
when we went
to that blessed Boathouse,
1107
01:09:59,058 --> 01:10:00,891
I felt good.
1108
01:10:00,892 --> 01:10:02,517
I just felt good.
1109
01:10:03,850 --> 01:10:05,517
And that's it.
1110
01:10:14,308 --> 01:10:16,683
But you need
to want to grow old together.
1111
01:10:17,725 --> 01:10:21,974
I'm not perfect. He's not perfect.
1112
01:10:21,975 --> 01:10:26,224
But you have to make a decision
whether you want that relationship
1113
01:10:26,225 --> 01:10:29,391
and, therefore,
you work towards that.
1114
01:10:29,392 --> 01:10:34,391
If your idea is to grow old together,
1115
01:10:34,392 --> 01:10:36,767
then it can happen.
1116
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:41,724
Older people need proper care.
1117
01:10:41,725 --> 01:10:44,599
They need things like
strong communication.
1118
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,641
- Touch.
- Empathy.
1119
01:10:46,642 --> 01:10:48,266
- Love.
- Dignity.
1120
01:10:48,267 --> 01:10:50,974
- Respect.
- And care.
1121
01:10:50,975 --> 01:10:53,141
So if we keep cutting corners,
1122
01:10:53,142 --> 01:10:55,516
it's not just Grandma who's in trouble.
1123
01:10:55,517 --> 01:10:58,432
We're all in trouble.
1124
01:11:13,892 --> 01:11:17,099
When people arrive
at our dementia cafes,
1125
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:19,932
they're welcomed
by our volunteer team,
1126
01:11:19,933 --> 01:11:21,724
by our facilitator.
1127
01:11:21,725 --> 01:11:23,682
Everybody has a name tag.
1128
01:11:23,683 --> 01:11:25,267
It just has their name on it.
1129
01:11:25,392 --> 01:11:28,016
There's no other labels
1130
01:11:28,017 --> 01:11:29,849
or anything that highlights
1131
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:32,766
that they might be living
with dementia themselves.
1132
01:11:32,767 --> 01:11:35,558
And the beauty of that is,
is that nobody feels
1133
01:11:35,933 --> 01:11:37,807
different to anybody else.
1134
01:11:37,808 --> 01:11:40,432
That everybody is equal
in our cafes.
1135
01:11:40,433 --> 01:11:43,891
Oh, we can't win.
We don't remember the game!
1136
01:11:43,892 --> 01:11:46,057
Yeah, coffee.
1137
01:11:46,058 --> 01:11:49,391
- Coffee? Milk? Milk?
- Yeah.
1138
01:11:49,392 --> 01:11:51,141
You've got the flat white?
1139
01:11:51,142 --> 01:11:53,016
No, it's a good atmosphere here.
1140
01:11:53,017 --> 01:11:55,724
Oh, and the people
are interesting as well.
1141
01:11:57,683 --> 01:11:59,807
One story I hear
time and time again
1142
01:11:59,808 --> 01:12:01,682
from new enquiries is,
1143
01:12:01,683 --> 01:12:03,766
"My partner has been
diagnosed with dementia
1144
01:12:03,767 --> 01:12:06,557
and, as a result, they have
withdrawn from society.
1145
01:12:06,558 --> 01:12:08,266
They're too scared to go out.
1146
01:12:08,267 --> 01:12:12,016
They're embarrassed,
they're ashamed and so they withdraw."
1147
01:12:12,017 --> 01:12:16,724
So to have a social outlet to come to
1148
01:12:16,725 --> 01:12:20,141
where everybody's going
through similar experiences,
1149
01:12:20,142 --> 01:12:23,932
the best feedback I can
receive is when people say,
1150
01:12:23,933 --> 01:12:27,141
"I can't tell who are the ones
living with dementia and who aren't,"
1151
01:12:27,142 --> 01:12:30,016
because everybody's interacting,
everybody's enjoying themselves
1152
01:12:30,017 --> 01:12:31,557
and everybody has a connection.
1153
01:12:31,558 --> 01:12:35,182
It's Judy and Roy's 65th
wedding anniversary tomorrow.
1154
01:12:38,350 --> 01:12:40,974
And she said, "Don't tell anyone!"
1155
01:12:43,225 --> 01:12:46,017
And it looks
like our guests are here!
1156
01:12:50,850 --> 01:12:55,557
Today we invited
some of the Kinder children
1157
01:12:55,558 --> 01:12:57,266
from the early learning center
1158
01:12:57,267 --> 01:12:59,641
to come and join us
preparing for Christmas.
1159
01:12:59,642 --> 01:13:04,182
So we generally like to do some
sort of craft activity
1160
01:13:04,183 --> 01:13:08,932
or something that we can then display
at our Christmas party.
1161
01:13:22,517 --> 01:13:26,182
They're part of a community,
they get to speak with younger people,
1162
01:13:26,183 --> 01:13:29,766
they don't feel like they're locked away
and I think that's the sort of...
1163
01:13:29,767 --> 01:13:32,432
That's the first thing that
we get wrong in Australia.
1164
01:13:32,433 --> 01:13:35,891
Our aged care homes
are pretty much completely segregated
1165
01:13:35,892 --> 01:13:37,600
from the rest of the community.
1166
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:43,016
I think models that allow older people
some presence in the general community
1167
01:13:43,017 --> 01:13:46,141
rather than being
entirely kind of locked away,
1168
01:13:46,142 --> 01:13:48,391
seem like a really good starting place.
1169
01:13:48,392 --> 01:13:50,724
Every one
of us is going to get older.
1170
01:13:50,725 --> 01:13:53,724
It's the one sector,
more than any other,
1171
01:13:53,725 --> 01:13:57,141
where we can start involving community.
1172
01:13:57,142 --> 01:13:59,599
Bring them back into taking control
1173
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,099
of their lives, of their communities,
1174
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,807
instead of being controlled.
1175
01:14:03,808 --> 01:14:07,016
And I think it's government's job
to build community
1176
01:14:07,017 --> 01:14:10,391
so that community takes over
these roles and local...
1177
01:14:10,392 --> 01:14:12,099
These things are managed locally
1178
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,641
and supported by central government.
1179
01:14:14,642 --> 01:14:16,807
He's got a blue shirt, has he?
1180
01:14:16,808 --> 01:14:21,099
As soon as babies
can understand language
1181
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:24,349
in the mother's tummy, in the womb,
1182
01:14:24,350 --> 01:14:27,099
through their growing years,
1183
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,558
they should be hearing about aged care...
1184
01:14:30,517 --> 01:14:36,100
and the sorts of issues
that elderly people face.
1185
01:14:37,142 --> 01:14:40,224
It would often be very difficult
1186
01:14:40,225 --> 01:14:43,141
if the person was solely on their own,
1187
01:14:43,142 --> 01:14:45,057
but if they're in a community
1188
01:14:45,058 --> 01:14:47,849
and they're loved by their community,
1189
01:14:47,850 --> 01:14:54,099
um, the community will step up
and come and help.
1190
01:15:00,392 --> 01:15:03,474
Until our community are engaged
1191
01:15:03,475 --> 01:15:05,682
as citizens and participants
1192
01:15:05,683 --> 01:15:10,807
who care about creating
a better future of ageing,
1193
01:15:10,808 --> 01:15:13,225
no structural reform...
1194
01:15:14,267 --> 01:15:15,892
will get us there.
1195
01:15:18,517 --> 01:15:22,307
Once again,
governments come and go.
1196
01:15:22,308 --> 01:15:26,516
A guy named Anthony
promised to fix it all.
1197
01:15:26,517 --> 01:15:28,392
Good afternoon.
1198
01:15:29,433 --> 01:15:33,349
Today, we are putting
the care back into aged care.
1199
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:35,974
We're announcing
the greatest improvement
1200
01:15:35,975 --> 01:15:39,391
in aged care in 30 years.
1201
01:15:39,392 --> 01:15:41,141
This sounds good.
1202
01:15:41,142 --> 01:15:43,974
Will he make Grandma's life better?
1203
01:15:43,975 --> 01:15:46,682
In October 2022,
1204
01:15:46,683 --> 01:15:52,349
they passed a bill that was an amendment
to the Aged Care Act.
1205
01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:55,224
"You must have a registered nurse
in every nursing home."
1206
01:15:55,225 --> 01:15:57,641
But the aged care industry
1207
01:15:57,642 --> 01:15:59,766
didn't like this idea at all.
1208
01:15:59,767 --> 01:16:02,516
Once again, they cried poor.
1209
01:16:02,517 --> 01:16:05,557
The families of
almost 200 aged care residents
1210
01:16:05,558 --> 01:16:07,766
are in a state of disbelief tonight,
1211
01:16:07,767 --> 01:16:11,307
with the shock closure
of three Wesley Mission nursing homes.
1212
01:16:11,308 --> 01:16:13,182
Joining me now is the CEO
1213
01:16:13,183 --> 01:16:16,474
and Superintendent of Wesley Mission,
Reverend Stu Cameron.
1214
01:16:16,475 --> 01:16:18,807
People who are watching,
should they be worried
1215
01:16:18,808 --> 01:16:22,224
the home that their parents
are in could be next?
1216
01:16:22,225 --> 01:16:24,557
I think... Leila,
I think there's a lot of change
1217
01:16:24,558 --> 01:16:26,682
that has happened
and will continue to happen...
1218
01:16:26,683 --> 01:16:28,016
- So yes?
- Yes.
1219
01:16:28,017 --> 01:16:29,391
I think there will be more.
1220
01:16:29,392 --> 01:16:34,641
So they're very worried about
threats that come from nursing homes.
1221
01:16:34,642 --> 01:16:36,807
"Oh, we have to...
We're gonna have to shut down.
1222
01:16:36,808 --> 01:16:39,099
If we don't get this,
we're gonna have to shut down."
1223
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:42,307
And so they basically hold
the government hostage.
1224
01:16:42,308 --> 01:16:44,224
I think the profit motive
1225
01:16:44,225 --> 01:16:49,141
is very damaging to health and aged care.
1226
01:16:49,142 --> 01:16:51,683
They're very uncomfortable bedfellows.
1227
01:17:10,517 --> 01:17:12,349
What was that?
1228
01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:14,267
There's the phone.
1229
01:17:21,267 --> 01:17:23,642
Do I put this out tomorrow?
1230
01:17:24,683 --> 01:17:26,142
Friday.
1231
01:17:28,225 --> 01:17:31,058
How long have you been
doing exercise classes for?
1232
01:17:31,725 --> 01:17:34,266
Oh, this is my second year.
1233
01:17:34,267 --> 01:17:37,141
- And do you like it?
- Yes, I do.
1234
01:17:37,142 --> 01:17:38,767
- Very much.
- Why?
1235
01:17:39,517 --> 01:17:41,183
Why do you like it?
1236
01:17:43,767 --> 01:17:46,682
I like it because it's...
1237
01:17:46,683 --> 01:17:51,099
I'm able to do
or try to do all of them.
1238
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:53,766
It's not that difficult.
1239
01:17:53,767 --> 01:17:56,474
And they're very nice people.
1240
01:17:56,475 --> 01:17:59,142
But do you do it for a reason?
1241
01:18:00,433 --> 01:18:04,182
Well, I keep hearing that exercises
1242
01:18:04,183 --> 01:18:06,392
are terribly important.
1243
01:18:07,558 --> 01:18:10,891
I should do some
on other days as well,
1244
01:18:10,892 --> 01:18:13,725
but there is no-one
that will pick me up.
1245
01:18:16,808 --> 01:18:20,266
Last year, my legs felt stronger
1246
01:18:20,267 --> 01:18:22,766
so I'm hoping
the same thing will happen
1247
01:18:22,767 --> 01:18:27,433
'cause I've had no exercises
over the Christmas period.
1248
01:18:28,475 --> 01:18:31,682
So doing it, surely,
is partly trying to keep you
1249
01:18:31,683 --> 01:18:33,557
out of a nursing home maybe.
1250
01:18:33,558 --> 01:18:35,766
'Cause if you couldn't walk,
what would happen?
1251
01:18:35,767 --> 01:18:38,557
Oh, I'd have to go in...
1252
01:18:38,558 --> 01:18:41,516
or you'd have to come
and live with me.
1253
01:18:41,517 --> 01:18:45,849
We don't want that.
Where would I sleep?
1254
01:18:45,850 --> 01:18:48,849
In one of the bedrooms.
I've got two.
1255
01:18:48,850 --> 01:18:52,724
I'll come and
visit you at the nursing home.
1256
01:18:52,725 --> 01:18:53,975
Yeah.
1257
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:57,725
- Take your time.
- Yes.
1258
01:19:00,350 --> 01:19:03,182
- Yeah, just push my back.
- Oh, push your back. All right.
1259
01:19:03,183 --> 01:19:05,141
A bit of a shove.
1260
01:19:05,142 --> 01:19:06,308
You right?
1261
01:19:07,683 --> 01:19:09,016
- All righty.
- Yes, good.
1262
01:19:09,017 --> 01:19:10,974
- You comfortable? Sorry.
- Thank you. Thank you.
1263
01:19:10,975 --> 01:19:13,016
- That's good.
- No worries.
1264
01:19:23,975 --> 01:19:27,224
I've travelled all around the world.
1265
01:19:27,225 --> 01:19:29,266
How lucky are you, Margaret?
1266
01:19:29,267 --> 01:19:32,057
- I don't know about that.
- Yeah.
1267
01:19:32,058 --> 01:19:34,057
Some of it was terrific,
1268
01:19:34,058 --> 01:19:36,932
but we had a year
in the Philippines...
1269
01:19:36,933 --> 01:19:39,557
Oh, wow. For your
husband's work, was it?
1270
01:19:39,558 --> 01:19:43,266
Yes, he was at the
University of the Philippines.
1271
01:19:43,267 --> 01:19:45,932
And I've been to the Chinese Wall.
1272
01:19:45,933 --> 01:19:48,932
- I nearly forgot that.
- Oh!
1273
01:19:48,933 --> 01:19:52,474
Yeah, I went with a friend years ago.
1274
01:19:52,475 --> 01:19:53,933
Yep.
1275
01:20:00,558 --> 01:20:02,974
That's my daughter,
by the way,
1276
01:20:02,975 --> 01:20:05,599
that's doing the film,
and that's my granddaughter.
1277
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,641
Oh, right, okay. Oh, hey.
1278
01:20:08,642 --> 01:20:10,432
- Hello.
- How are you?
1279
01:20:10,433 --> 01:20:12,557
She's making
one about old age.
1280
01:20:12,558 --> 01:20:15,766
- Oh, yeah?
- And I'm in it.
1281
01:20:24,725 --> 01:20:26,516
I thought I was going to fall.
1282
01:20:26,517 --> 01:20:28,641
That's always my terror.
1283
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,100
Three more each.
1284
01:20:43,850 --> 01:20:44,975
Two.
1285
01:20:46,475 --> 01:20:49,516
And one.
All right, legs out straight.
1286
01:20:49,517 --> 01:20:52,142
Let's just raise them
up and down 10 times.
1287
01:20:53,267 --> 01:20:56,307
Yep, and get them arms going!
1288
01:20:56,308 --> 01:20:58,599
Up and down, sideways.
1289
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,850
Six, seven...
1290
01:21:02,850 --> 01:21:04,516
...eight...
1291
01:21:04,517 --> 01:21:06,682
So it'll be right, left, right.
1292
01:21:06,683 --> 01:21:10,849
Right up, left side, right straight.
1293
01:21:10,850 --> 01:21:12,307
Oh, my God!
1294
01:21:12,308 --> 01:21:16,017
- So, up, hook, right.
- Side...
1295
01:21:16,517 --> 01:21:18,683
Right, hook, right.
1296
01:21:22,058 --> 01:21:25,642
All right, guys, I reckon
you've done very well today.
1297
01:21:34,975 --> 01:21:37,932
No-one really talks about
aged care until they're old.
1298
01:21:37,933 --> 01:21:41,057
Yeah, we should be talking
about it a lot earlier.
1299
01:21:41,058 --> 01:21:43,224
We'll never fix
our aged care system
1300
01:21:43,225 --> 01:21:46,766
unless we realize
we're all in this together.
1301
01:21:46,767 --> 01:21:49,099
Maybe governments could work for us
1302
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:51,224
instead of whoever
pays them the most.
1303
01:21:51,225 --> 01:21:55,266
But surely our governments
care more about people than money.
1304
01:21:55,267 --> 01:21:57,016
Yeah, you'd hope so.
1305
01:21:57,017 --> 01:21:59,807
But the lobby is very powerful.
1306
01:21:59,808 --> 01:22:02,016
If they continue to drive policy,
1307
01:22:02,017 --> 01:22:03,850
aged care won't work for us.
1308
01:22:30,975 --> 01:22:35,099
We're involved
in a seniors Italian group
1309
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,016
of 70 people.
1310
01:22:38,017 --> 01:22:41,849
There are 10 males.
1311
01:22:41,850 --> 01:22:44,683
The rest, they're all female,
1312
01:22:45,433 --> 01:22:48,766
and they all live at home.
1313
01:23:25,225 --> 01:23:29,849
Most of our members
have had a pretty hard life,
1314
01:23:29,850 --> 01:23:33,057
like all... all migrants
1315
01:23:33,058 --> 01:23:36,557
of the '50s, '60s and '70s.
1316
01:23:36,558 --> 01:23:40,599
You reach a certain age,
you've had enough.
1317
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,599
Not that once they stop working,
1318
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,224
they've got nothing to do.
1319
01:23:45,225 --> 01:23:47,349
They raise all
the grandchildren first.
1320
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:51,807
But once you arrive at this age,
you've had enough.
1321
01:23:53,517 --> 01:23:56,474
# Let's dance in style
Let's dance for a while #
1322
01:23:56,475 --> 01:23:58,182
# Heaven can wait #
1323
01:23:58,183 --> 01:24:00,349
# We're only watching the skies #
1324
01:24:00,350 --> 01:24:02,016
# Hoping for the best #
1325
01:24:02,017 --> 01:24:03,724
# But expecting the worst #
1326
01:24:03,725 --> 01:24:06,725
# Are you gonna drop the bomb or not? #
1327
01:24:07,767 --> 01:24:11,307
# Let us die young
Or let us live forever #
1328
01:24:11,308 --> 01:24:14,932
# We don't have the power
But we never say never #
1329
01:24:14,933 --> 01:24:16,932
# Sitting in a sandpit #
1330
01:24:16,933 --> 01:24:18,766
# Life is a short trip #
1331
01:24:18,767 --> 01:24:21,100
# The music's for the sad man #
1332
01:24:22,308 --> 01:24:25,641
# Can you imagine when this race is won? #
1333
01:24:25,642 --> 01:24:29,016
# Turn our golden faces into the sun #
1334
01:24:29,017 --> 01:24:31,224
# Praising our leaders #
1335
01:24:31,225 --> 01:24:32,932
# We're getting in tune #
1336
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:35,224
# The music's played by the #
1337
01:24:35,225 --> 01:24:36,599
# The mad man #
1338
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,849
# Forever young #
1339
01:24:38,850 --> 01:24:42,558
# I want to be forever young #
1340
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,391
# Do you really want to live forever? #
1341
01:24:47,392 --> 01:24:48,891
# Forever #
1342
01:24:48,892 --> 01:24:50,974
# And ever #
1343
01:24:50,975 --> 01:24:53,557
# Forever young #
1344
01:24:53,558 --> 01:24:56,016
# I want to be forever young... #
1345
01:24:56,017 --> 01:24:57,932
So you want to do a cheers?
1346
01:24:57,933 --> 01:24:59,392
Mmm.
1347
01:25:00,892 --> 01:25:03,141
So, Mum, why are
you doing this film?
1348
01:25:03,142 --> 01:25:05,932
Because I thought it would help you
1349
01:25:05,933 --> 01:25:09,391
because I wasn't as helpful
when you were doing the others.
1350
01:25:09,392 --> 01:25:12,474
You must understand, I don't...
1351
01:25:12,475 --> 01:25:16,141
You're comfortable with all these things.
I'm not.
1352
01:25:16,142 --> 01:25:19,016
- But we're finished now.
- Nearly finished.
1353
01:25:19,017 --> 01:25:21,932
But it's a nice opportunity
to spend time together.
1354
01:25:21,933 --> 01:25:23,682
Would you suggest that?
1355
01:25:23,683 --> 01:25:28,099
And Lola and Claudie
and Ben and Jeremy and...
1356
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:30,766
Well, I don't know
so much about them,
1357
01:25:30,767 --> 01:25:35,766
but I'm sure if I got to know
them more intimately,
1358
01:25:35,767 --> 01:25:39,600
I would find they were
absolutely charming.
1359
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,141
- I think that's enough now.
- Okay, no worries.
1360
01:25:44,142 --> 01:25:46,141
- Good.
- Well done.
1361
01:25:46,142 --> 01:25:48,641
- Thank you.
- Nothing else you want to add?
1362
01:25:48,642 --> 01:25:50,849
- No.
- You sure?
1363
01:25:50,850 --> 01:25:53,099
Absolutely certain.
1364
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:55,141
Thank you so much, Mum, for doing it.
1365
01:25:55,142 --> 01:25:57,641
- Okay.
- I really... You can relax.
1366
01:25:57,642 --> 01:25:59,433
- Yes, good, good.
- Yeah.
1367
01:26:00,017 --> 01:26:01,349
Goodbye!
1368
01:26:05,392 --> 01:26:07,724
Oh, dear. Goodbye.
1369
01:26:07,725 --> 01:26:11,142
- Well done, Granny.
- Oh, thank you, darling.
1370
01:26:11,683 --> 01:26:12,974
Thank you.
1371
01:26:12,975 --> 01:26:14,891
Oh, she's beautiful, isn't she?
1372
01:26:14,892 --> 01:26:16,391
Look how skinny she is.
1373
01:26:16,392 --> 01:26:18,307
All righty, well done.
1374
01:26:18,308 --> 01:26:20,391
And that's a wrap!
1375
01:26:20,392 --> 01:26:22,641
# And ever #
1376
01:26:22,642 --> 01:26:25,099
# Forever young #
1377
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:28,892
# I want to be forever young #
1378
01:26:29,892 --> 01:26:33,849
# Do you really want to live forever? #
1379
01:26:33,850 --> 01:26:38,682
# Forever young #
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