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[girl] Sometimes
we're all a little careless.
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{\an8}[bleep] me dead. Oh!
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{\an8}And tell these
dickheads in the embassy
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{\an8}to just give me simple sentences.
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{\an8}[Barnaby Joyce]
I'm on a prescription drug
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{\an8}and they say certain things
may happen to you if you drink
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{\an8}and they were absolutely 100% right.
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{\an8}[Anthony Albanese speaks indistinctly]
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{\an8}[audience exclaims]
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{\an8}[ball thwacks]
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{\an8}[speaks indistinctly]
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{\an8}[reporter] Politics can be
a bruising sport.
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{\an8}[people exclaim]
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[girl] In countries all over the world,
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populations are getting older.
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Some countries provide good care
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for their ageing populations.
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Many countries are worried
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about the rapid increase
in the number of old people.
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It's a problem that
gets bigger every year.
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In Australia,
governments seem to think
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that old people and their care
don't win elections.
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But what's it like
to be an older Australian?
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If we're lucky,
this will be us one day.
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[Sue Thomson] Let's go into the kitchen
and make a cup of tea.
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Oh, yeah. I'm gonna
need some help, I think.
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[grunts] Yeah.
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See, it's because I…
I'm not concentrating.
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[Sue] It's all right.
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[sighs] I don't know whether I can.
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- You'll have to pull me up.
- [Sue] Oh, okay. Sorry.
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- Oh! [chuckles]
- [Sue] Yep, yep, yep.
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- There I am.
- Oh, we did it! [laughs]
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How's your arm?
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[Sue chuckles] Okay, are we stable?
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Yes, I'm stable now.
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Just stand and look ahead
and just take a breather.
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Oh, my goodness.
That was full-on.
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Oh, you poor girl.
I'm so sorry.
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No, it's fine!
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- Yeah, bash up your daughter.
- Normally…
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Yeah, just you watch what
you're doing on your feet.
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[woman] Yes.
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[Sue] So did you ever
imagine that you would end up
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having to consider
going into aged care?
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Never. Never, never
in my wildest dreams.
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[Sue] Why?
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Because it was
like a black mark against you
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if someone had to go into a nursing home
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when they had family.
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It was all on the families.
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[Sue] I think that's a good point,
to be honest.
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Do you know, that's why
I'm making a film about it.
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[woman] It was nice
meeting you guys.
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You might make a fortune
out of this, you know?
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[all laugh]
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Then you'll be careful! [chuckles]
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Oh, dear.
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So thanks for doing
whatever it is you do.
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[laughs]
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[driving jazz music playing]
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[soft clattering]
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You just walk behind me, dear.
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[Sue] Do you know
your My Aged Care number?
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[woman] No.
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[Sue] And what about myGov?
Do you know how to access that?
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MyGov? Well, ask the operator.
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[Sue] Okay, here.
We can ring My Aged Care.
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Why are you ringing them?
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[Sue] 'Cause we've gotta
ask them about your respite…
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Oh.
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[Sue] …and see if they
can help us.
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[automated voice]
Welcome to My Aged Care.
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Our calls are recorded for
training and quality purposes.
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If you do not wish
for your call to be recorded,
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please advise
your contact center agent.
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[pensive music playing]
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[Sue] When you had to
become a single mum,
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when Dad and you separated,
was that hard?
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[Margaret] Oh, terribly.
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That hurt me because
I wanted my children
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to be brought up by the same people
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and live a very ordinary life.
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On the whole,
my life has been all right,
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but old age is nothing to be
pleased about, in my opinion.
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[sentimental carefree music playing]
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It was better to be
an older person in the '50s.
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At least that's what I think.
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Governments used to take
better care of older people.
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That's how I remember it.
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[frantic music playing]
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I think it probably changed
at the end of the '60s
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{\an8}and there was a rapid increase
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{\an8}in for-profit providers
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{\an8}and they really were
interested in the money.
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[people jostling]
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[cash register dings]
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- [doorbell dings]
- [Margaret on intercom] Hello.
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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I'll let you in now.
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[Sue] Mum, remember
I told you the idea that I had
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of getting young people
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to narrate a film about old people?
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- Yes.
- So these three
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have been part of the narration team,
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- 'cause there's a few people doing it.
- Well done, girls. Well done.
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- And do you have grannies?
- [girls] Yes.
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[Margaret] And how old are they?
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My gran is around 72.
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Oh, that's good.
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I'm much older than that.
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[Sue] Well, how old are you, Mum?
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I'm, um, 80… 89.
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Are you going to be in the film?
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[girls] Yes.
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Oh, well done.
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- [girl 1] Thanks.
- [girl 2] Thank you.
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Absolutely marvelous.
And I'm sure you'll star.
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[girls giggle]
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Once upon a time,
a Labor prime minister was elected.
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[camera shutters click]
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{\an8}[girl 2] His government
decided to do things differently.
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{\an8}They wanted to work closely
with the business community.
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{\an8}We are about a fundamental change
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{\an8}in the way government operates
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{\an8}and the way it cooperates
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{\an8}with important sectors
of the Australian community.
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{\an8}Hawke's treasurer was a man named Paul.
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{\an8}[Paul Keating] We were
not trying to run prosperity
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{\an8}out of the Commonwealth budget.
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{\an8}Rather, we wanted to employ the markets
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to make the whole economic pie larger.
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From Keating onwards,
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you've got the march
of neoliberal groupthink.
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[girl 1] Governments come and go.
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{\an8}Then, a Liberal named John
became prime minister.
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{\an8}[girl 2] He decided
to do things differently.
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{\an8}[dramatic sinister operatic music playing]
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Welcome to our show-and-tell
on the Aged Care Act.
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To begin our presentation on ageing,
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we're going to read a bit from
the 1997 Australian Aged Care Act.
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[students groan]
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"The objects of this act are as follows."
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"To provide for funding of aged care
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- that takes account of…"
- "The quality of the care…"
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"The need to ensure access
to care that is affordable…"
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"And appropriate to the needs
of the people who require it."
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Basically, what the government
is saying here
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is every older person will have access
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to affordable aged care
as they grow old.
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[girls cheer]
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[woman] In reading the Aged Care Bill,
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it would appear that nursing homes
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have disappeared and vanished
from the face of this earth.
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{\an8}George Orwell would be proud of this bill.
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{\an8}It should be called the
Aged Care Bill of 1984, not 1997.
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{\an8}I must point out that there is
general agreement
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{\an8}throughout much of the aged care sector
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{\an8}that the lack of capital care funding…
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{\an8}in particular, for nursing homes,
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estimated to be approximately 800 million
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constitutes nothing less than a crisis
which must be urgently addressed.
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[girl 2] Say hello to my grandma.
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That's not your grandma.
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Grandma represents everyone
who needs care in Australia.
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Before 1997, Grandma and her friends
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felt the care was already going downhill.
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The government didn't like
spending on aged care anymore
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and the money they did spend
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was incentivizing
nursing homes to make money.
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Not great for Grandma.
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But if Grandma thought
things were bad before 1997,
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she had another thing coming,
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and that thing coming was privatization.
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[dramatic interlude]
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That's where the government said,
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"Hey, who wants to make money off Grandma?
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We don't want to be
responsible for Grandma's care.
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You can do it."
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So they gave aged care
over to private companies
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who were very happy about it.
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[easygoing music playing]
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[reporter] Ageing is an industry
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worth over $22 billion a year,
and growing.
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Today, nursing homes are marketed
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more like hotels than hospitals.
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The elderly no longer patients,
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rather customers.
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[woman] You don't call
most people "consumers."
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I think that's quite
a demeaning, derogatory term.
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Most of the consumer… consumer…
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consumer… consumer… consumer…
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All consumers are… Consumers…
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{\an8}The thought of them
just ordering a glass of wine
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{\an8}or, you know…
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{\an8}I mean, these people are struggling
to have their dentures put in.
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[woman 2] Well, you're more
like selling a cruise.
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{\an8}You're selling a cruise
with extra packages.
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{\an8}You're not selling a service
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{\an8}that's keeping your mother,
father or whoever
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safe, well-looked-after and happy.
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You know, it's stuff on top that's fluff.
It's fluff.
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[woman 3] I think it is fair to say
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that we have commodified
the elderly in Australia.
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They're walking profit targets
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{\an8}when you've got big corporates
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{\an8}who are making a lot
of money out of them.
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{\an8}The fact that they were able to, you know,
release prospectuses
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{\an8}and say, "Hey,
literally profit from the elderly,"
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that was one of their sub headlines,
like, it's crazy to me.
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John Howard had set the ball rolling
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on a system that was
dramatically outsourced
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but that was suddenly
running out of money.
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What he basically did
was opened it up to the free market.
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They are sacrificing older people
for the good of the economy.
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[melancholy music playing]
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[reporter] Many older Australians
in residential aged care
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are still not getting
the minutes of care per day
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that they should be.
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Advocates say the for-profit
sector is most at fault
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and there needs to be better scrutiny
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on how government funds are being spent.
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[Margaret] I love the radio
and I learn such a lot.
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There's very interesting talks
by interesting people, in my opinion.
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Yes, we've got a good relationship,
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the radio and me.
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If I'm going to die,
I'd like to die here,
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surrounded by my family.
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That's the most important thing.
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If I'm on my own somewhere,
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I'm going to be very frightened.
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I know I am.
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It's quite a common feeling,
I've discovered amongst aged people.
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We lose all our "doing stuff
on our own" decisions.
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It will be a group decision that's made,
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not an independent decision.
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The fear of death and dying
and the taboo around that
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{\an8}and the fear of losing agency
and losing control,
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{\an8}they go very, very deep
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{\an8}and the reality is both of those things
do relate to aged care.
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{\an8}There's no sort of shying away from that.
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[woman] There's no aged care
services at Batchelor.
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It would be nice if there was.
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So the pressures on family members
can be very overwhelming.
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{\an8}As a carer, going in to help
my sister do her insulin,
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{\an8}it was very scary and daunting,
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but she didn't want to go to
an aged care facility.
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Having her daughter there
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and her grandkids coming
and great-grandchildren
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and her siblings come and visit,
and friends,
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at her home…
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she still felt like she was the queen
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in her own environment,
and that was important to her.
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It just helped her stay alive
for a bit longer.
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Of course, we all want to do our bit
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to be able to share
in our responsibilities
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and obligations to family members
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to make sure that they get
as much support in their decision
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either to stay at home
or to go into respite care.
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None of my family
actually wanted respite care,
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'cause they thought they had
enough family members
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that could come
and look after them anyway.
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[woman] Do you mind if Jeremy
puts a microphone on you?
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[Jeremy] So we're just gonna
stick this on the inside.
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Just actually I think we'll go between
the jumper and the thing.
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So I'll get… I'll feed this…
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Probably the easiest way is feeding it
from upstairs to downstairs.
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Why are you… What are you…
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[woman] We're gonna put
a microphone on you.
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[man] We're doing a little
bit of filming with Sue.
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- Yes, I know.
- Oh, great.
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But why do you need
to listen to me?
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[Jeremy] Because you'll be talking.
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[woman] Because we want
to hear what you're gonna say
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'cause we're just gonna film
you in the car with Mum…
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Oh, right.
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…going to the nursing home.
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Where?
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[Sue] We're going to visit
that nursing home.
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That's what we're doing today.
We're going to look at…
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We'll be gone for half an hour,
coming back, that's it.
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So we just want to hear
what you think
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of the nursing home,
we're gonna look at today.
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You can just be honest, Mum.
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- Mm-hmm.
- So I'm just gonna put this one down.
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[woman 2] Oh, good glasses, Granny!
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Oh, they look so cool, Granny!
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[Sue chuckles]
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[woman speaks indistinctly]
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[Margaret] You've got to put
some purple in it. Yes.
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[traffic rushes by]
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- [woman 2] Love you, Granny.
- [Margaret] Love you too.
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[woman 2] See you soon.
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[gentle music playing]
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[Sue] So this place we're going to,
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my friend, Mum, I told you is there.
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[Margaret] Right.
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[Sue] Two of her children are doctors
and they did their research
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and said this place
is one of the better ones.
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All right.
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[Sarah Holland-Batt]
Ageing is often something
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we think happens to other people.
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It's not something
that's ever gonna touch us.
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The same thing doubly so for aged care.
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"Aged care is something
that other people go into.
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It's not a system that
I'll ever need to go into."
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Most people think this way.
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[Sue] Well done.
Okay, can you just stand here?
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I'll get your handbag and mine.
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[wind blusters]
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[car door shuts]
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[woman] Most people try and keep
their older person at home,
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however, the burden of that,
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{\an8}the weight of that for a carer
who's providing all the care
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{\an8}is often too great.
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The person who generally
gives the care is a woman,
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either the spouse or the daughter.
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[Holland-Batt] The idea of sort of being
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in someone else's hands so completely,
like you are in aged care,
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it's very confronting to our sense
of who we are as competent people,
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as people who are making choices in life.
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I'm an only child
and my parents had me
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relatively late for the time.
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So Dad was 45 when I was born
and Mum was 35.
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Dad was a mineral metallurgist
by trade,
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but he had so many
other interests and hobbies.
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So he loved classical music.
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He loved jazz. He played jazz piano.
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He loved reading.
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He had a giant library that
I was given free rein of,
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full of inappropriate books
that, you know,
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probably should have been
withheld from me at that age.
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He was a wonderful, wonderful dad.
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He was diagnosed with
Parkinson's when I was 18.
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He had a relatively kind of slow decline
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and then it kind of caught up with him
and, eventually,
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kind of with great reluctance,
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we had to move him into aged care.
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And at that moment,
pretty much instantly
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Mum and I felt that
we constantly were worried
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that things were being missed.
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He was having lots of falls
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because he wasn't
medicated at the right time.
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And then we had
a sort of really awful crisis
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where a whistleblower came to us
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and mentioned that a staffer
had been deliberately kind of abusing Dad.
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I presumed it would be relatively easy,
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that I would make a complaint
to the regulator,
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the regulator would
investigate the complaint.
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And then when that didn't happen,
then I went to the police.
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And eventually I realized
that it wasn't just bad luck,
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that it was the system.
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And so then when the Royal Commission
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into Aged Care
Quality and Safety was called,
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I made a submission to that.
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[reporter] The room belonged
to an 85-year-old woman with dementia
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whose identity is protected.
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{\an8}Within hours of putting
the camera in place,
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{\an8}this is what it captured.
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A warning. The footage
is very confronting to watch and hear.
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[woman shrieks and yells]
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Terrible revelations of abuse
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against some of society's
most vulnerable
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{\an8}have prompted the Prime Minister
to call a royal commission into aged care.
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{\an8}[Scott Morrison] I just could not get past
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{\an8}what was occurring in our
residential aged care sector.
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{\an8}[Holland-Batt] I solemnly and sincerely…
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{\an8}- [clerk] Declare and affirm…
- Declare and affirm…
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{\an8}- That the evidence I shall give…
- That the evidence I shall give…
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{\an8}I was sort of nervous
about my father's privacy.
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{\an8}I was nervous about my family's privacy.
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{\an8}And then I thought,
"No, it's the right thing to do."
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{\an8}So in your statement, you
detail that from about 2016,
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{\an8}you start noticing some issues.
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{\an8}It was when Mum and I would go and visit,
we would often find Dad disheveled,
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{\an8}in unclean clothes…
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{\an8}[Holland-Batt] Aged care's an issue
that's poorly understood by most people
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because they don't want to think about it,
I understand.
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I'd never given it a moment's thought
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before we had to move Dad into care.
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{\an8}She'd verbally abused him and told him
that she was "sick of his shit,"
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{\an8}um, that she left his wheelchair
away from the bed
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{\an8}so that he was left completely immobile,
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{\an8}and the whistleblower
also mentioned to my mother
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{\an8}that the reason that she'd told us
and not the facility
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{\an8}was that if she told the facility,
it would get swept under the carpet
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{\an8}and absolutely nothing would be done.
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{\an8}[Margaret Thorpe]
There was so much publicity
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{\an8}about abuse and lack of care
in aged care.
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{\an8}I think that many, many family members
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would consider
the care that their relative receives
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as being careless.
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[person calls out repeatedly]
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What a tragedy that an old person
at the end of their life
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is treated with such disrespect.
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So, you see, it's not just
breaking down in the nursing homes.
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It's breaking down everywhere.
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It's our humanity.
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[girl] How did things get so bad?
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Why was care forgotten
and profits put before people?
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Perhaps it had something
to do with this guy.
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[tense Western music playing]
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Doug Moran was a man with a plan.
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{\an8}I suppose it could be
compared to a five-star hotel
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{\an8}for the residents that are
going to come in here.
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This is one of our private rooms,
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which has an ensuite bathroom
attached to it.
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[reporter] It's being built by Doug Moran,
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the country's largest
private nursing home operator.
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Moran lobbied to introduce
the user-pays principle
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into nursing homes.
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I mean, there's almost no doubt that
Doug Moran was heavily involved
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in writing the 1997 changes
with John Howard.
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And he rallied the rest of
the for-profit groups around him.
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Someone who's got power and money
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and who believes they can
actually dictate the outcome.
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[reporter]
The Federal Government introduced
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a user-pays system for nursing homes.
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Elderly people stood to pay
up to a quarter of a million dollars
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as a bond for their accommodation.
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And the government
has to accept their responsibility!
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[reporter] The government's
under pressure to overturn its decision
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on nursing home entry fees and bonds.
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John Howard had said,
"We'll give you accommodation bonds,"
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and Moran was so disgusted he didn't
get them, he quit the Liberal Party.
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There's got to be some good
aged care providers out there.
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And there are,
there are places that do it well,
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and isn't it a shame
that they get a bad name
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based on the others.
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[exhales deeply]
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- [Margaret] She seemed very nice.
- [Sue] Yeah, they all seemed nice.
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Yes, they do.
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No, I think that's definitely
one of the top ones so far.
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Yes, I think…
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I'd have to talk to people now.
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I'm getting worried about finances.
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[Sue] Yeah, if you move
into something like that,
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what do you do with your flat?
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[Margaret] Yes, I'd have to sell it.
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[sighs]
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[Sue] We'll go and see a financial adviser
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so you don't have to sell your flat
in case you want to go home.
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[chuckles]
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I think if I make
the effort to go somewhere,
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I'm not going to want
to go back home…
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however nice that sounds.
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[Sue] Yeah.
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[Margaret exhales]
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Oh, dear, it's exhausting
doing all these things.
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[Sue] Now we're done anyway.
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- We've looked at five now.
- Four.
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Four. I've read all about them.
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[Sue] All right, if you get
to the point where you go,
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"I can't live alone,
I can't do it, I'm too lonely,
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I don't like the weekends,"
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- which is what…
- I hate the weekends.
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[Sue] And why do you hate
the weekends?
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Because everyone's out
having fun, fun, fun
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and I'm not.
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Oh, pardon me.
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Oh!
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{\an8}[camera shutters click]
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{\an8}I'm here today with Minister Butler
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{\an8}to announce the Government's new policy
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{\an8}on the future of aged care.
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{\an8}[Saltarelli] When Labor
were last in government,
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they picked up the baton
from where Howard started.
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They introduced the so-called
"Living Longer, Living Better" reforms.
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I'm sure that was more for industry,
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not for the actual recipients of care.
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And that really just put
everything on steroids.
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{\an8}Today, we announce
the most sweeping reforms
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{\an8}to our aged care system
in almost 30 years.
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In designing these reforms,
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we've listened
to stakeholders in the sector
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who have worked with us very closely.
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Aged care in Australia
is industry-driven
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and it's a partnership between
government and industry.
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Industry… Industry… Industry…
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The community have been
largely disenfranchised.
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Yeah, they've been
shut out of the system.
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We will also finally introduce
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00:29:00,166 --> 00:29:03,540
a single system of
accommodation charging,
486
00:29:03,541 --> 00:29:06,540
reflecting the principle
of ageing in place, which…
487
00:29:06,541 --> 00:29:09,124
[girl] So with the help
of a Labor government,
488
00:29:09,125 --> 00:29:12,040
the industry finally had their bonds.
489
00:29:12,041 --> 00:29:14,082
John Howard was spooked
by the reaction
490
00:29:14,083 --> 00:29:16,124
to wanting to introduce
accommodation bonds.
491
00:29:16,125 --> 00:29:20,040
And so Mark Butler,
whether he wants the crown or not,
492
00:29:20,041 --> 00:29:23,165
is the guy that finished Howard's reforms.
493
00:29:23,166 --> 00:29:26,291
[plays moving tune]
494
00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:48,000
[ends song]
495
00:29:48,416 --> 00:29:52,040
I'm Olivia Dorothy Cornwell
496
00:29:52,041 --> 00:29:55,583
and I'm 94 years of age.
497
00:29:56,458 --> 00:29:57,874
She's a miracle.
498
00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:00,375
[both laugh]
499
00:30:01,375 --> 00:30:04,458
[plays heartwarming tune]
500
00:30:07,625 --> 00:30:10,166
This is my daughter Jane
501
00:30:10,583 --> 00:30:14,790
and she's a journalist
and she lives in London.
502
00:30:14,791 --> 00:30:18,499
She and I are in contact
in some way or other
503
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:20,625
pretty much every day.
504
00:30:23,291 --> 00:30:25,499
My knees are a bit sore.
505
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:27,582
When I was a preschool teacher,
506
00:30:27,583 --> 00:30:31,124
I used to put out planks
for the kids to jump
507
00:30:31,125 --> 00:30:32,957
and I'd have a plank under each arm.
508
00:30:32,958 --> 00:30:35,165
I'm sure that's responsible.
509
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:36,833
- [bird chirps]
- Oh, look at the parrot.
510
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,583
I'm a Mallee girl.
511
00:30:43,625 --> 00:30:48,832
I was born in Birchip
in the north-west of Victoria.
512
00:30:48,833 --> 00:30:52,000
I was trained to be
a preschool teacher
513
00:30:53,125 --> 00:30:55,958
and then I went overseas.
514
00:30:57,208 --> 00:31:01,374
I went to the
Buckingham Palace Garden Party
515
00:31:01,375 --> 00:31:03,790
and the Queen was cross with me
516
00:31:03,791 --> 00:31:07,500
because I didn't curtsy
like everybody else was doing.
517
00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:10,790
One minute, we were all standing up,
518
00:31:10,791 --> 00:31:12,957
the Queen appeared, I looked around
519
00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:16,707
and everybody was down there
and I hadn't…
520
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:19,875
And she really did give me
an unpleasant look.
521
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:25,665
I came back from England
and I did some more preschool teaching,
522
00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:28,915
but then I decided
I'd like to be an air hostess,
523
00:31:28,916 --> 00:31:30,666
as we were called in those days.
524
00:31:31,208 --> 00:31:36,582
Then I met my husband Alan.
525
00:31:36,583 --> 00:31:38,832
We eventually married.
526
00:31:38,833 --> 00:31:42,665
And then our beautiful daughter Jane
was born
527
00:31:42,666 --> 00:31:48,249
and Alicia was the next one,
and Chris was the next one.
528
00:31:48,250 --> 00:31:51,000
[film reel whirring]
529
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:54,999
My husband liked outdoor sport
530
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,790
and he was very fair-skinned
531
00:31:56,791 --> 00:32:01,750
and he got a melanoma
and he died when he was 73.
532
00:32:03,250 --> 00:32:06,374
I suddenly lost interest in everything.
533
00:32:06,375 --> 00:32:08,165
I didn't want to do anything.
534
00:32:08,166 --> 00:32:11,874
I got a couple of rather
unpleasant illnesses
535
00:32:11,875 --> 00:32:15,040
followed by depression
536
00:32:15,041 --> 00:32:17,832
and my doctor suggested I spend
537
00:32:17,833 --> 00:32:22,207
a few… a couple of weeks in respite care
538
00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:25,207
and the place I went to was wonderful.
539
00:32:25,208 --> 00:32:28,207
I always associated old people's homes
540
00:32:28,208 --> 00:32:33,582
with dear old ladies and bingo,
you know, so…
541
00:32:33,583 --> 00:32:36,749
But I went there for a couple of weeks,
542
00:32:36,750 --> 00:32:39,082
and it was amazing.
543
00:32:39,083 --> 00:32:41,415
But after two weeks,
544
00:32:41,416 --> 00:32:43,332
I felt like I was living in a bubble.
545
00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:45,874
I thought, "Now, I'm still mobile.
546
00:32:45,875 --> 00:32:49,207
"I don't really want to spend
any more time here."
547
00:32:49,208 --> 00:32:52,582
'Cause you went into respite
with a view to long-term staying.
548
00:32:52,583 --> 00:32:54,707
So we got you a room with a courtyard,
549
00:32:54,708 --> 00:32:56,457
I'm back here because I thought
550
00:32:56,458 --> 00:32:59,624
I was going to have to
sell the house to pay for…
551
00:32:59,625 --> 00:33:02,415
Well, I had no intention of staying there.
552
00:33:02,416 --> 00:33:05,583
[gentle musing music playing]
553
00:33:12,166 --> 00:33:15,957
[Olivia] I just love living at home.
It's just great.
554
00:33:15,958 --> 00:33:18,415
I love my garden,
I like playing the piano
555
00:33:18,416 --> 00:33:20,624
and I'm very keen on jigsaws.
556
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:23,540
I'd like to spend a lot
more time doing jigsaws.
557
00:33:23,541 --> 00:33:26,124
Oh, and I like to attract the birds
558
00:33:26,125 --> 00:33:30,375
even though the cockatoos
come and take all the seed.
559
00:33:32,416 --> 00:33:35,500
I love to be independent
and do my own thing.
560
00:33:36,833 --> 00:33:39,665
[Jane] The more research
I started doing about aged care,
561
00:33:39,666 --> 00:33:42,249
it became obvious
that there was a way
562
00:33:42,250 --> 00:33:44,957
that you could get help
living in your home.
563
00:33:44,958 --> 00:33:47,374
And what I was told was that
564
00:33:47,375 --> 00:33:50,500
to be able to stay in your home
was the goal of the government.
565
00:33:50,625 --> 00:33:52,915
You know,
they have a vested interest
566
00:33:52,916 --> 00:33:55,749
in keeping, you know, people at home.
567
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:58,750
They have to come out and inspect
and I remember saying to you,
568
00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:01,124
"Please act as doddery as you can."
569
00:34:01,125 --> 00:34:02,750
[laughs]
570
00:34:04,958 --> 00:34:06,749
[woman] Most people that you speak to
571
00:34:06,750 --> 00:34:09,749
say that they want to grow old
in their own home.
572
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:12,332
So it's all very well and good
for an older person
573
00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:15,915
to have their home modified and cleaned
574
00:34:15,916 --> 00:34:17,790
{\an8}and to get their nursing care
575
00:34:17,791 --> 00:34:20,957
{\an8}and their medication
management in their home…
576
00:34:20,958 --> 00:34:22,915
{\an8}but if they walk down the street
577
00:34:22,916 --> 00:34:26,790
and nobody knows their name
or cares to say hi to them
578
00:34:26,791 --> 00:34:29,082
or, you know, would even notice
579
00:34:29,083 --> 00:34:32,541
if they didn't step outside their door
for a couple of days…
580
00:34:34,666 --> 00:34:37,207
[Holland-Batt] There have been
some really harrowing stories
581
00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:38,624
coming out of home care
582
00:34:38,625 --> 00:34:40,874
just as there have
out of residential care.
583
00:34:40,875 --> 00:34:43,874
The problems in home care
are lesser known
584
00:34:43,875 --> 00:34:45,624
because they're not monitored.
585
00:34:45,625 --> 00:34:48,457
There's a huge degree
of vulnerability in home care,
586
00:34:48,458 --> 00:34:50,374
so I don't think
we want to romanticize it
587
00:34:50,375 --> 00:34:54,000
and say everything's great
so long as you can stay at home.
588
00:34:54,791 --> 00:34:56,833
[phone rings]
589
00:35:00,375 --> 00:35:02,666
[phone continues ringing]
590
00:35:15,208 --> 00:35:17,166
[phone line ringing]
591
00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:19,832
[Margaret] Hello.
592
00:35:19,833 --> 00:35:22,124
- Hi, Mum. It's me.
- Yeah.
593
00:35:22,125 --> 00:35:24,291
I'll be there in about 20 minutes.
594
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:26,874
20 minutes.
595
00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:30,832
And is Lola going to do
that bit of shopping for me?
596
00:35:30,833 --> 00:35:33,332
Yes, she's definitely gonna do that.
597
00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:35,249
And where are we going to go?
598
00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:38,790
[Sue] Given what happened,
we're gonna go and look
599
00:35:38,791 --> 00:35:41,666
at a couple more aged care places.
600
00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:44,624
Oh, okay.
601
00:35:44,625 --> 00:35:47,625
We'll sort it out when you get here.
602
00:35:48,666 --> 00:35:51,957
[Sue] You just drive past this one
603
00:35:51,958 --> 00:35:53,832
because it's Glen Huntly Road.
604
00:35:53,833 --> 00:35:56,124
Right, is that the one we went to?
605
00:35:56,125 --> 00:35:58,124
No, no.
606
00:35:58,125 --> 00:36:01,582
And then there's another one, this one.
607
00:36:01,583 --> 00:36:03,832
So we'll just have a look
out the car window
608
00:36:03,833 --> 00:36:06,665
and you think about,
you know, what you think.
609
00:36:06,666 --> 00:36:08,207
[Margaret] Mm-hmm.
610
00:36:08,208 --> 00:36:10,040
[Sue] Can you put them in your bag?
611
00:36:10,041 --> 00:36:11,875
- [Margaret] Oh, okay.
- Hang on.
612
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:15,541
Here.
613
00:36:17,541 --> 00:36:19,832
We're actually out the back, Mum.
614
00:36:19,833 --> 00:36:21,582
[Margaret] Right.
615
00:36:21,583 --> 00:36:23,915
[Sue] Just… I'm gonna
shut your front door.
616
00:36:23,916 --> 00:36:25,790
[Margaret speaks indistinctly]
617
00:36:25,791 --> 00:36:27,749
[Sue] Yeah, they're coming
and they'll lock it.
618
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,707
[gate shuts]
619
00:36:29,708 --> 00:36:32,000
[keys jangle]
620
00:36:36,833 --> 00:36:39,625
[Sue] Big step. Watch your head.
621
00:36:41,458 --> 00:36:43,832
Okay, I'm gonna just
change those hearing aids.
622
00:36:43,833 --> 00:36:45,582
You've got them in the wrong ears.
623
00:36:45,583 --> 00:36:48,749
- Oh!
- Anyway, that's the right way.
624
00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:52,041
[soft music playing]
625
00:36:58,291 --> 00:37:00,415
[Margaret] Where are we going now?
626
00:37:00,416 --> 00:37:02,832
[Sue] We're gonna go and show you
627
00:37:02,833 --> 00:37:06,332
- the two aged care places up here.
- Oh, that's right. Yes.
628
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:08,249
You can see just from the outside.
629
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:10,207
- Yes.
- So they're…
630
00:37:10,208 --> 00:37:12,415
Because what was your criteria?
631
00:37:12,416 --> 00:37:14,957
You said you wanted them around this area.
632
00:37:14,958 --> 00:37:16,583
Yes.
633
00:37:17,875 --> 00:37:21,124
- Anything else that you…
- No, no.
634
00:37:21,125 --> 00:37:23,707
I'd just like to be left alone.
635
00:37:23,708 --> 00:37:25,749
[Sue chuckles]
636
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:28,874
- In the place or now?
- In the place.
637
00:37:28,875 --> 00:37:30,999
What, you don't want people
coming into your room?
638
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,875
No, I don't want thousands
of people coming in and out.
639
00:37:37,791 --> 00:37:41,207
The Aged Care Act was
supposed to help old people,
640
00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:44,165
but were these changes
really about helping Grandma
641
00:37:44,166 --> 00:37:46,833
or just making private companies
more money?
642
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:52,457
They were coming for the money,
no doubt about it.
643
00:37:52,458 --> 00:37:55,707
If you look at the aged care providers
644
00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:58,582
and the owners and the CEOs,
645
00:37:58,583 --> 00:38:01,707
some of them are on the BRW rich list.
646
00:38:01,708 --> 00:38:04,749
They live in mansions,
they drive luxury cars,
647
00:38:04,750 --> 00:38:07,749
yet they're constantly crying poor.
648
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:09,790
[glasses clink]
649
00:38:09,791 --> 00:38:13,457
[girl] The industry was sought
as independent experts
650
00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:17,040
to the newly created
Aged Care Financing Authority,
651
00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:19,874
such as the CEO of Bupa.
652
00:38:19,875 --> 00:38:21,665
You know, Bupa is the biggest
653
00:38:21,666 --> 00:38:24,207
private aged care provider in the country.
654
00:38:24,208 --> 00:38:26,207
They had a shocking track record.
655
00:38:26,208 --> 00:38:30,540
That's a provider that time and again
has failed care standards.
656
00:38:30,541 --> 00:38:32,249
There were so many of its homes
657
00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:36,332
that had failed with the regulator,
but they were still operating.
658
00:38:36,333 --> 00:38:37,957
[girl] By 2019,
659
00:38:37,958 --> 00:38:41,374
over half of Bupa's 72 nursing homes
660
00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:45,124
were failing to meet
all the health and safety standards.
661
00:38:45,125 --> 00:38:48,790
When you look at the failures
over the last 20 years in aged care,
662
00:38:48,791 --> 00:38:52,082
it really is a story
of provider influence.
663
00:38:52,083 --> 00:38:54,791
First and foremost, that is the issue.
664
00:38:57,625 --> 00:39:00,207
There is no doubt that the regulator
665
00:39:00,208 --> 00:39:03,040
is absolutely captured by industry.
666
00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,415
The regulator says,
667
00:39:04,416 --> 00:39:06,665
"Can you not do that?
You're embarrassing us.
668
00:39:06,666 --> 00:39:09,540
But, you know,
we'll let you get away with it
669
00:39:09,541 --> 00:39:12,999
if you, you know,
tick some boxes on a piece of paper
670
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,332
and say that you will never
be like that again."
671
00:39:15,333 --> 00:39:16,832
The fox is guarding the hen house.
672
00:39:16,833 --> 00:39:20,290
There does seem to be something of
a revolving door, if you like,
673
00:39:20,291 --> 00:39:23,915
between industry
and government positions.
674
00:39:23,916 --> 00:39:26,540
It's the same list of names
that have been moving
675
00:39:26,541 --> 00:39:30,791
from government to regulation to industry
and back again for 20 years.
676
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,207
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677
00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:39,999
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678
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,374
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679
00:39:43,375 --> 00:39:46,749
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680
00:39:46,750 --> 00:39:51,124
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681
00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:54,082
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682
00:39:54,083 --> 00:39:55,624
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683
00:39:55,625 --> 00:39:58,290
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684
00:39:58,291 --> 00:40:00,624
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685
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686
00:40:10,250 --> 00:40:13,957
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691
00:40:26,541 --> 00:40:28,208
- [door shuts]
- [quirky music ends]
692
00:40:37,375 --> 00:40:40,874
[Margaret] I might have to go
into that place a bit sooner.
693
00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:44,207
- [Sue] What place?
- The nursing home.
694
00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:46,374
[Sue] Do you want to go
into a nursing home?
695
00:40:46,375 --> 00:40:48,290
- No.
- [Sue] Why?
696
00:40:48,291 --> 00:40:50,875
Not at this moment in time,
697
00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:57,790
because I've got enough
faculties still going.
698
00:40:57,791 --> 00:41:01,915
There are a few that
are going down the tubes, but…
699
00:41:01,916 --> 00:41:03,958
[chuckles]
700
00:41:05,458 --> 00:41:07,582
That's the trouble with old age.
701
00:41:07,583 --> 00:41:11,332
It's… a lot of it is very frightening.
702
00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:14,457
You find you can't do heaps of stuff.
703
00:41:14,458 --> 00:41:16,582
- [Sue] Mmm.
- Um…
704
00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:22,749
For instance, I used to think
cooking was quite an honorable job.
705
00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:25,874
[chuckles] I can't
be bothered with it now.
706
00:41:25,875 --> 00:41:29,374
- I'd rather starve to death.
- [Sue laughs]
707
00:41:29,375 --> 00:41:31,082
- I would!
- [Sue] That's not good.
708
00:41:31,083 --> 00:41:33,874
What about, you know,
you used to catch the bus
709
00:41:33,875 --> 00:41:38,957
to go and see movies,
book clubs, walking group.
710
00:41:38,958 --> 00:41:40,582
You had so many things…
711
00:41:40,583 --> 00:41:43,165
Yes, I did and I loved them all,
712
00:41:43,166 --> 00:41:46,125
but it wasn't right anymore.
713
00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:48,915
[Sue] Yeah, now you don't…
714
00:41:48,916 --> 00:41:52,999
Now I go out to the doctor. [chuckles]
715
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,040
About the only one I see! [laughs]
716
00:41:57,041 --> 00:42:00,999
The long-awaited final report
from the Aged Care Royal Commission
717
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,165
has delivered a damning assessment
of the system
718
00:42:04,166 --> 00:42:06,875
which is supposed to protect
the country's most vulnerable.
719
00:42:08,666 --> 00:42:11,332
[Anne Connolly] I was waiting
for the report
720
00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:12,957
from the Royal Commission
to come down.
721
00:42:12,958 --> 00:42:15,207
I mean, it was our Four Corners,
722
00:42:15,208 --> 00:42:18,082
our two-part Who Cares? stories
723
00:42:18,083 --> 00:42:20,082
that actually prompted
the Royal Commission.
724
00:42:20,083 --> 00:42:23,957
{\an8}Scott Morrison got in
the day before the first one went to air,
725
00:42:23,958 --> 00:42:25,791
{\an8}so he got ahead of it.
726
00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:27,749
This is the first of many volumes…
727
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:31,165
Morrison got out there
and brandished a copy of the report,
728
00:42:31,166 --> 00:42:32,665
you know, saying effectively,
729
00:42:32,666 --> 00:42:34,624
"Now we've done something
about aged care,"
730
00:42:34,625 --> 00:42:36,665
where the journalists had only been given
731
00:42:36,666 --> 00:42:39,832
access to the report 20 minutes beforehand
732
00:42:39,833 --> 00:42:42,165
and then he never did
a press conference again.
733
00:42:42,166 --> 00:42:45,207
[Connolly] You tabled
the report while we were here.
734
00:42:45,208 --> 00:42:46,457
How can we ask questions…
735
00:42:46,458 --> 00:42:48,624
[Connolly] He didn't like
being questioned.
736
00:42:48,625 --> 00:42:50,207
He thought
he would get a free run.
737
00:42:50,208 --> 00:42:52,540
The Department of Health
and the regulator
738
00:42:52,541 --> 00:42:54,332
put a submission into
the Royal Commission…
739
00:42:54,333 --> 00:42:56,457
I'm the Prime Minister.
This is my minister.
740
00:42:56,458 --> 00:42:58,540
Our cabinet will decide
741
00:42:58,541 --> 00:43:00,832
our response to this
Royal Commission, okay?
742
00:43:00,833 --> 00:43:02,707
- So is this…
- So we've released it.
743
00:43:02,708 --> 00:43:04,666
I think I've answered your question.
Thank you.
744
00:43:06,125 --> 00:43:12,040
I think it says a lot about
how we regard older people.
745
00:43:12,041 --> 00:43:15,290
We do regard them as disposable
746
00:43:15,291 --> 00:43:17,457
after a certain period of time.
747
00:43:17,458 --> 00:43:20,332
They're insignificant.
They're not important in our lives.
748
00:43:20,333 --> 00:43:22,457
[man] Thank you.
749
00:43:22,458 --> 00:43:24,874
[Holland-Batt] I don't think
any of the politicians
750
00:43:24,875 --> 00:43:27,457
are thinking, "Oh, this is
a system I'd like to go into."
751
00:43:27,458 --> 00:43:30,999
They're not thinking, "Great! We've solved
it. I'm gonna be right when I'm old."
752
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,999
They're thinking,
"Thank God that I earn so much
753
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,290
"that I'm not gonna have to
be touched by this system."
754
00:43:35,291 --> 00:43:37,082
You know, that's… that's the reality.
755
00:43:37,083 --> 00:43:39,999
And, you know,
what we should be doing
756
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,707
is stepping back from
all of this and saying,
757
00:43:43,708 --> 00:43:46,290
"What do we all actually want
when we get old?"
758
00:43:46,291 --> 00:43:49,458
[pensive music playing]
759
00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:56,832
[woman] The majority of the people
760
00:43:56,833 --> 00:43:59,124
have worked their entire life
and have been paying tax
761
00:43:59,125 --> 00:44:01,874
and have been contributing
to the community
762
00:44:01,875 --> 00:44:03,499
and when they're older,
763
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:06,957
I think everyone
deserves to have a good life
764
00:44:06,958 --> 00:44:09,999
and to have a secure home,
a safe home,
765
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,707
and I hope that I can contribute
766
00:44:12,708 --> 00:44:16,916
to someone's wellbeing
to stay at home safely.
767
00:44:18,458 --> 00:44:22,707
{\an8}I am a care finder
with Housing for the Aged Action Group
768
00:44:22,708 --> 00:44:29,457
{\an8}and the role is to help
older people over 65 and plus
769
00:44:29,458 --> 00:44:32,166
navigating through the aged care system.
770
00:44:32,708 --> 00:44:34,332
I'm loving it.
771
00:44:34,333 --> 00:44:36,666
Like, that's really a calling.
772
00:44:39,333 --> 00:44:43,540
I have been in the social work
field for about 20 years
773
00:44:43,541 --> 00:44:46,332
so I have been seeing,
like, a lot of changes.
774
00:44:46,333 --> 00:44:48,082
Since it has been privatized,
775
00:44:48,083 --> 00:44:53,250
I don't think the clients
are getting the help that they need.
776
00:44:56,458 --> 00:45:00,207
If you are living by yourself
and don't have, like, a partner,
777
00:45:00,208 --> 00:45:03,665
and you are still fit in your mind,
778
00:45:03,666 --> 00:45:06,624
I still believe the best option for you
779
00:45:06,625 --> 00:45:09,290
would be staying at home
and being independent
780
00:45:09,291 --> 00:45:12,165
and have some support in your home
781
00:45:12,166 --> 00:45:14,457
like cleaning, shopping
782
00:45:14,458 --> 00:45:18,499
or someone to take you
to your medical appointments.
783
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:21,625
[gentle music playing]
784
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,750
[teacup rattles]
785
00:45:33,625 --> 00:45:36,833
[Beverly] My husband's name
was Lewis.
786
00:45:38,875 --> 00:45:42,707
I'd been with him for 27 years, yes,
787
00:45:42,708 --> 00:45:46,500
and, um, I miss him every day.
788
00:45:49,583 --> 00:45:54,540
When my husband died,
I didn't know what I was up against.
789
00:45:54,541 --> 00:46:01,290
I realized that rent was
getting way out of my league.
790
00:46:01,291 --> 00:46:03,291
When I'd get my pension,
791
00:46:04,166 --> 00:46:06,040
I paid my rent,
792
00:46:06,041 --> 00:46:10,500
I had a provision for my utilities,
793
00:46:11,250 --> 00:46:14,499
I could see things diminishing.
794
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,624
[phone line rings]
795
00:46:17,625 --> 00:46:20,874
- [Beverly] Hello, Hanh.
- Hi, Bev. It's Hanh speaking.
796
00:46:20,875 --> 00:46:23,415
- How are you going?
- I'm good.
797
00:46:23,416 --> 00:46:26,582
We are now on our way to see you.
798
00:46:26,583 --> 00:46:27,875
Bye.
799
00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:31,457
[computerized voice]
Continue on State Route 22
800
00:46:31,458 --> 00:46:33,291
for seven kilometers.
801
00:46:34,166 --> 00:46:36,999
[Beverly] I was frightened
of what the future held.
802
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,415
I knew that it would reach a stage
where I would be homeless.
803
00:46:42,416 --> 00:46:44,541
So I rang My Aged Care
804
00:46:45,125 --> 00:46:48,540
and along the way, I mentioned
805
00:46:48,541 --> 00:46:55,040
that I would like independent living
if it could be arranged.
806
00:46:55,041 --> 00:46:57,040
And the next thing I knew,
807
00:46:57,041 --> 00:47:01,915
this little lass Hanh
came to my front door.
808
00:47:01,916 --> 00:47:05,874
She put forward plans and we came out here
809
00:47:05,875 --> 00:47:09,583
and I loved the place straightaway,
810
00:47:10,375 --> 00:47:13,500
and, um, here I am.
811
00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:21,249
Once you get the services,
you can stay at home.
812
00:47:21,250 --> 00:47:23,082
A nursing home means death.
813
00:47:23,083 --> 00:47:26,165
{\an8}I would say, "You no…"
814
00:47:26,166 --> 00:47:28,124
{\an8}I'll say it in Italian.
815
00:47:28,125 --> 00:47:30,165
{\an8}[speaking Italian]
816
00:47:30,166 --> 00:47:33,040
{\an8}"You're not going to put me there,
are you?"
817
00:47:33,041 --> 00:47:36,124
[plane engines drone]
818
00:47:36,125 --> 00:47:39,250
[people chattering]
819
00:47:47,916 --> 00:47:50,749
[Luciana] We came to Australia in 1960.
820
00:47:50,750 --> 00:47:54,290
Dad was here, was injured at work,
821
00:47:54,291 --> 00:47:57,957
couldn't come back to Italy,
so we joined him here.
822
00:47:57,958 --> 00:48:00,083
And I was… Loved it.
823
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:04,249
I was 14 and a half.
824
00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:08,415
I went to work in a factory
and said I was 16
825
00:48:08,416 --> 00:48:11,290
and I worked in a factory for four years
826
00:48:11,291 --> 00:48:13,499
and it was dreadful.
827
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:17,332
The idea
was that I could go and study,
828
00:48:17,333 --> 00:48:19,165
but then I met Mario.
829
00:48:19,166 --> 00:48:22,249
I met Mario when I was 17.
830
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:24,999
We went to the Boathouse
831
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,957
and we had a really nice ride
on the river.
832
00:48:28,958 --> 00:48:30,832
He said, "Well, I'm old enough.
833
00:48:30,833 --> 00:48:33,957
We need to get married.
I want to start a family."
834
00:48:33,958 --> 00:48:35,707
I said, "Okay."
835
00:48:35,708 --> 00:48:39,375
And Mum said, "No, too young."
836
00:48:40,208 --> 00:48:44,165
I said, "Well, I feel good,"
and so we married.
837
00:48:44,166 --> 00:48:47,750
[traditional Italian folk music playing]
838
00:49:01,375 --> 00:49:04,875
Mum asked, "Where you gonna live?"
839
00:49:05,875 --> 00:49:08,957
And Mario said,
"But I do have a house,"
840
00:49:08,958 --> 00:49:11,916
and he brought me to this house.
841
00:49:12,666 --> 00:49:16,249
I said, "Fancy that!
I feel really good in it."
842
00:49:16,250 --> 00:49:17,874
And that was it.
843
00:49:17,875 --> 00:49:21,999
And we have been here
ever since, 59 years.
844
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,291
[chatters indistinctly]
845
00:49:28,416 --> 00:49:30,332
I always wanted to study,
846
00:49:30,333 --> 00:49:34,332
but Mario said,
"But I think I'm old enough
847
00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:36,082
to start a family,"
848
00:49:36,083 --> 00:49:38,208
but I was only 19.
849
00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:40,999
Oh, he won.
850
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,291
[quirky music playing]
851
00:49:52,291 --> 00:49:58,124
All right, here we go. Afternoon tea.
852
00:49:58,125 --> 00:50:02,957
And then I wanted
very much to start working
853
00:50:02,958 --> 00:50:07,790
and I qualified a social diploma
in community development.
854
00:50:07,791 --> 00:50:10,583
I worked at a community health center.
855
00:50:11,041 --> 00:50:14,249
At the time, I was studying,
working, family
856
00:50:14,250 --> 00:50:17,958
and looking after
Mum and Dad as well.
857
00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:21,207
Let's see, Theresa.
858
00:50:21,208 --> 00:50:24,749
Oh, we still have to wait.
859
00:50:24,750 --> 00:50:27,500
Lovely. [chuckles]
860
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,458
[Luciana] Afternoon tea.
861
00:50:32,125 --> 00:50:38,165
My father passed away July 2002.
862
00:50:38,166 --> 00:50:40,624
- [Theresa] Do you want some?
- [Luciana] Yeah.
863
00:50:40,625 --> 00:50:43,000
Then Mum was alone for five years
864
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:47,416
and then she was diagnosed
with pancreatic cancer.
865
00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:51,957
There was not even a thought
866
00:50:51,958 --> 00:50:55,875
of Mum going into a nursing home.
867
00:50:56,250 --> 00:51:01,957
The idea of a nursing home
was waiting for death.
868
00:51:01,958 --> 00:51:06,166
I've never known Mum to be selfish
869
00:51:07,208 --> 00:51:10,250
until the last two months.
870
00:51:11,083 --> 00:51:12,541
She said…
871
00:51:13,583 --> 00:51:16,415
"If I had my mother here,
872
00:51:16,416 --> 00:51:19,041
I would spend all my time with her."
873
00:51:19,875 --> 00:51:23,040
And I said, "Mum, I'm 60.
874
00:51:23,041 --> 00:51:24,874
Who would employ me?"
875
00:51:24,875 --> 00:51:28,166
I find my job terribly rewarding.
876
00:51:28,750 --> 00:51:30,749
You depend on your children,
877
00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:33,040
but children do have their own family.
878
00:51:33,041 --> 00:51:34,665
They have their own problems.
879
00:51:34,666 --> 00:51:37,666
They've got their own issues,
their own work issues as well.
880
00:51:44,458 --> 00:51:46,499
[Jane] Often I am on a deadline
881
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:51,624
or I will be travelling somewhere
and I just feel like at any moment,
882
00:51:51,625 --> 00:51:54,415
I have to go back to Australia
and sort Mum out.
883
00:51:54,416 --> 00:51:58,249
If you want to put your parent
into an aged care facility
884
00:51:58,250 --> 00:52:00,249
and you live overseas,
885
00:52:00,250 --> 00:52:03,999
{\an8}to navigate the myGov
or the Aged Care website
886
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,665
{\an8}is really, really hard.
887
00:52:05,666 --> 00:52:08,250
{\an8}To get on the phone to anyone
is really, really hard.
888
00:52:10,333 --> 00:52:12,707
I found that
when I was even getting her
889
00:52:12,708 --> 00:52:14,790
up the levels of aged care,
890
00:52:14,791 --> 00:52:16,665
because there's the four levels,
891
00:52:16,666 --> 00:52:19,457
I really needed to be there to do that.
892
00:52:19,458 --> 00:52:21,583
I don't think I could have
done it from here.
893
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:26,415
{\an8}[Anna Donaldson]
My Aged Care is the system
894
00:52:26,416 --> 00:52:28,665
{\an8}of government-funded support
895
00:52:28,666 --> 00:52:30,749
for older people as they're ageing,
896
00:52:30,750 --> 00:52:34,540
which starts
at really sort of low-level,
897
00:52:34,541 --> 00:52:36,999
entry-level support around the home
898
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,082
and goes all the way
through to residential care.
899
00:52:40,083 --> 00:52:42,582
But actually the majority of the system
900
00:52:42,583 --> 00:52:45,875
is geared towards supporting people
in their own homes.
901
00:52:47,375 --> 00:52:49,499
{\an8}I've spoken to so many older people
902
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:52,249
who find it completely bamboozling.
903
00:52:52,250 --> 00:52:54,124
And not just older people,
904
00:52:54,125 --> 00:52:56,791
their carers and their families.
905
00:52:57,458 --> 00:53:00,249
[Linda] Just prior to this interview,
I went and looked up
906
00:53:00,250 --> 00:53:04,374
the Aged Care
and the categories there
907
00:53:04,375 --> 00:53:10,250
didn't really suit me at this point
in time of my life and my career,
908
00:53:10,583 --> 00:53:13,916
and so I clicked on "Early Retirement"
909
00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:19,290
and it dropped down into all these boxes
and I went, "Oh, my God!
910
00:53:19,291 --> 00:53:22,207
This is going to take forever to read."
911
00:53:22,208 --> 00:53:24,415
And I've got a PhD,
912
00:53:24,416 --> 00:53:26,832
and I just looked at the first paragraph
913
00:53:26,833 --> 00:53:29,874
and I went, "Oh, I'll look at that later."
914
00:53:29,875 --> 00:53:34,832
And I was thinking about
how I would talk about this
915
00:53:34,833 --> 00:53:39,457
to other Aboriginal
and Torres Strait Islander people
916
00:53:39,458 --> 00:53:41,999
that struggle with myGov.
917
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,124
Accessing a lot
of the services like myGov
918
00:53:47,125 --> 00:53:51,457
would be near impossible
in remote communities
919
00:53:51,458 --> 00:53:56,624
because the Telstra services
are non-existent,
920
00:53:56,625 --> 00:54:00,374
and if they do exist
in remote communities,
921
00:54:00,375 --> 00:54:03,083
it's intermittent.
922
00:54:04,333 --> 00:54:06,040
Like during the wet season,
923
00:54:06,041 --> 00:54:09,915
you might as well say
there's no Telstra communication.
924
00:54:09,916 --> 00:54:13,124
They're talking to you, but it
sounds like they're under water
925
00:54:13,125 --> 00:54:15,416
and you can hardly understand
what they're saying.
926
00:54:17,833 --> 00:54:20,082
[Jane] Clearly, I'm on
the other side of the world.
927
00:54:20,083 --> 00:54:22,582
It's a real worry to think
that she could fall,
928
00:54:22,583 --> 00:54:24,207
something could happen to her.
929
00:54:24,208 --> 00:54:28,457
I'm so far away.
I am her main point of contact.
930
00:54:28,458 --> 00:54:32,249
She has her aged care provider
and they're brilliant,
931
00:54:32,250 --> 00:54:36,708
but it's not like if anything happens,
she can, you know, call me.
932
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,499
Mum has to battle with loneliness.
933
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:44,666
She watches a lot of television.
934
00:54:45,708 --> 00:54:48,666
She has some friends
who are quite loyal, which is great.
935
00:54:48,791 --> 00:54:52,499
And she does kind of maybe
sometimes overthink things
936
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:55,624
and I think being on her own
too much is not great.
937
00:54:55,625 --> 00:55:01,707
She's very youthful in her
outlook and in her mind
938
00:55:01,708 --> 00:55:03,499
and I love her to bits,
939
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:06,749
but that also means
that she might rush at things.
940
00:55:06,750 --> 00:55:10,290
And, you know,
lately we've got her a walker,
941
00:55:10,291 --> 00:55:13,082
a red walker, which we call
the "Mean Machine."
942
00:55:13,083 --> 00:55:16,250
So I have had to encourage her
to use that.
943
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:22,249
I've set up various
contingency plans, as it were,
944
00:55:22,250 --> 00:55:23,999
but at any moment,
945
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,415
I have to go back to Australia
and sort Mum out.
946
00:55:26,416 --> 00:55:28,500
It's a constant source of stress.
947
00:55:31,916 --> 00:55:33,916
What did you do today?
948
00:55:34,958 --> 00:55:38,915
[Olivia] Uh… not a lot.
949
00:55:38,916 --> 00:55:41,207
No? Did you go for a walk?
950
00:55:41,208 --> 00:55:43,415
Yes, I went 'round the block.
951
00:55:43,416 --> 00:55:45,665
Did you take the Mean Machine?
952
00:55:45,666 --> 00:55:48,958
[Olivia chuckles] Yes. Yeah.
953
00:55:49,875 --> 00:55:52,540
Oh, by the way,
I went to the doctor yesterday
954
00:55:52,541 --> 00:55:54,999
and she's given me
a clean bill of health.
955
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,207
Yeah, well, you're a force of nature, Mum.
That's amazing.
956
00:55:58,208 --> 00:56:03,207
Who are those two men
in your house, darling?
957
00:56:03,208 --> 00:56:05,165
Can you see them?
Look. Here they are. Look.
958
00:56:05,166 --> 00:56:07,165
- Lovely. Waving.
- [man] Hey!
959
00:56:07,166 --> 00:56:10,999
Yes, they look rather nice.
What are they doing?
960
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,624
They're filming me.
961
00:56:12,625 --> 00:56:14,332
They're just doing a little film thing.
962
00:56:14,333 --> 00:56:16,082
- Look. There they are.
- Lovely!
963
00:56:16,083 --> 00:56:17,874
All right, off you go.
964
00:56:17,875 --> 00:56:19,540
Okay, darling.
965
00:56:19,541 --> 00:56:22,165
- All right, bye, Mum.
- [man] See you later.
966
00:56:22,166 --> 00:56:24,957
- Waving. Bye!
- Bye, darling.
967
00:56:24,958 --> 00:56:26,500
See you soon.
968
00:56:29,875 --> 00:56:33,041
[thoughtful music playing]
969
00:56:53,541 --> 00:56:56,708
[footsteps thud softly]
970
00:57:00,041 --> 00:57:03,083
[Margaret] I get lonely
here on my own now.
971
00:57:04,125 --> 00:57:08,957
Last year, five of my friends died.
972
00:57:08,958 --> 00:57:12,082
One I'd known since I was 16.
973
00:57:12,083 --> 00:57:15,082
[indistinct chatter on TV]
974
00:57:15,083 --> 00:57:21,000
I spend at least four hours
watching television.
975
00:57:22,041 --> 00:57:26,333
Most of the time, I can't
work the television properly.
976
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:44,707
[Sue] Okay, is that too tight
or not tight enough?
977
00:57:44,708 --> 00:57:46,290
No.
978
00:57:46,291 --> 00:57:48,458
It seems to be all right.
979
00:57:59,791 --> 00:58:02,082
[Sue] Do you ever get
frightened at night, Mum?
980
00:58:02,083 --> 00:58:04,541
- Mm-hmm.
- [Sue] Tell me about that.
981
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:10,750
Well, it's all very quiet.
982
00:58:12,208 --> 00:58:17,999
And I just have to tell myself
that I'm all right
983
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,291
because if I… if I, um…
984
00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:28,166
talked about how I was feeling,
it would make me even more frightened.
985
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,416
See, all this is exhausting for me…
986
00:58:44,458 --> 00:58:46,625
unfortunately.
987
00:58:47,666 --> 00:58:49,457
Is your granny…
988
00:58:49,458 --> 00:58:53,332
John, does your granny
manage, like, on her own?
989
00:58:53,333 --> 00:58:55,624
- [John] Yeah.
- Yeah?
990
00:58:55,625 --> 00:58:58,750
- How old is she?
- [John] She's 90.
991
00:58:59,833 --> 00:59:03,249
- Really?
- [John] But, uh…
992
00:59:03,250 --> 00:59:06,040
Is she in a care place?
993
00:59:06,041 --> 00:59:07,707
[John] No, not at the moment.
994
00:59:07,708 --> 00:59:09,665
- She's still at home?
- [John] Still at home.
995
00:59:09,666 --> 00:59:11,875
She's got a lot of neighbors…
996
00:59:12,875 --> 00:59:15,415
uh, who visit her every day.
997
00:59:15,416 --> 00:59:18,415
- Wow. That's…
- [John] But she's a very able woman.
998
00:59:18,416 --> 00:59:20,791
- Isn't that wonderful?
- [John] She's very healthy.
999
00:59:30,375 --> 00:59:32,625
[Margaret] Ooh, it's very dark.
1000
00:59:36,291 --> 00:59:38,832
[solemn music playing]
1001
00:59:38,833 --> 00:59:41,957
[reporter] Across the country,
nursing home residents
1002
00:59:41,958 --> 00:59:46,290
account for almost 60%,
of coronavirus deaths,
1003
00:59:46,291 --> 00:59:49,457
amongst the worst in the world.
1004
00:59:49,458 --> 00:59:51,082
[Morton] The pandemic
taught us a lot.
1005
00:59:51,083 --> 00:59:56,124
Above all else, I think, that
privatized services don't work.
1006
00:59:56,125 --> 00:59:57,916
Particularly when
they're essential services
1007
00:59:58,041 --> 01:00:00,499
because in the end,
the government needs to intervene
1008
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:02,165
to make sure we continue getting them.
1009
01:00:02,166 --> 01:00:05,582
This is a gig economy,
it's a casualized workforce.
1010
01:00:05,583 --> 01:00:07,165
We get paid a pittance
1011
01:00:07,166 --> 01:00:09,749
and I need to work at five
different homes in a week,
1012
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:11,249
otherwise I cannot feed my family.
1013
01:00:11,250 --> 01:00:14,665
{\an8}The skill involved in caring
1014
01:00:14,666 --> 01:00:16,665
{\an8}is just not recognized,
1015
01:00:16,666 --> 01:00:19,207
{\an8}completely undervalued.
1016
01:00:19,208 --> 01:00:21,624
You don't usually
remember all the machines
1017
01:00:21,625 --> 01:00:23,415
and the stethoscopes and the fancy thing,
1018
01:00:23,416 --> 01:00:25,374
but you will remember the touch
1019
01:00:25,375 --> 01:00:27,082
of the nurse or the care worker
1020
01:00:27,083 --> 01:00:29,082
and the kindness, the compassion.
1021
01:00:29,083 --> 01:00:32,915
We just don't have
enough of the right people
1022
01:00:32,916 --> 01:00:35,958
with the right skills across the system.
1023
01:00:37,625 --> 01:00:40,040
[Sue] I'll just get the bubbles out.
1024
01:00:40,041 --> 01:00:41,541
[cork pops]
1025
01:00:47,333 --> 01:00:48,749
Well done.
1026
01:00:48,750 --> 01:00:52,082
Oh, look at this girl.
She's got a pirate ship.
1027
01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:53,749
[Margaret] Oh, so she has.
1028
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:55,374
[Sue chuckles]
1029
01:00:55,375 --> 01:00:57,665
[Margaret] I wonder
if she's going to sail it.
1030
01:00:57,666 --> 01:01:01,375
I don't think she'll ever see it again
if she lets it out now.
1031
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:09,124
So, Mum, if you were in
aged care, I could pick you up
1032
01:01:09,125 --> 01:01:11,541
and we could sneak out
and do this maybe.
1033
01:01:12,208 --> 01:01:13,874
Well, I'll keep that in mind
1034
01:01:13,875 --> 01:01:18,249
because, you know, it's nerve-racking
1035
01:01:18,250 --> 01:01:23,540
that you're going to go into this place
1036
01:01:23,541 --> 01:01:25,499
where you're not alone,
1037
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:28,624
which is one of the reasons
I'd like to do it.
1038
01:01:28,625 --> 01:01:30,708
[Sue] Yeah, 'cause you're not alone.
1039
01:01:34,041 --> 01:01:36,082
Do you think you could
ring and book yourself
1040
01:01:36,083 --> 01:01:37,749
into an aged care place?
1041
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:39,707
- No, I don't want to do that.
- [Sue] Why?
1042
01:01:39,708 --> 01:01:41,957
But why couldn't you do it
rather than me?
1043
01:01:41,958 --> 01:01:43,707
I don't…
1044
01:01:43,708 --> 01:01:47,624
I don't want to do many of
the things that you insist on.
1045
01:01:47,625 --> 01:01:49,832
- For instance…
- No, but I would like you…
1046
01:01:49,833 --> 01:01:51,874
Why do I have to do it?
1047
01:01:51,875 --> 01:01:53,915
Now, that's a nice little dog.
1048
01:01:53,916 --> 01:01:55,665
- [Sue chuckles]
- Look at that one.
1049
01:01:55,666 --> 01:01:57,749
That's cute, like Jerry.
1050
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:59,833
Yeah, a bit like Jerry.
1051
01:02:00,708 --> 01:02:02,415
Can you do all the phone calls?
1052
01:02:02,416 --> 01:02:05,415
I used to, always. I did everything.
1053
01:02:05,416 --> 01:02:08,291
But I don't know.
I've lost the… the will.
1054
01:02:09,208 --> 01:02:12,665
[Sue] But do you think
you could do it without me?
1055
01:02:12,666 --> 01:02:13,999
No.
1056
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,624
What if I went somewhere
and lived overseas?
1057
01:02:16,625 --> 01:02:18,332
- How would you do it?
- Well, you did.
1058
01:02:18,333 --> 01:02:21,165
- You went away on holiday.
- Yeah, for two weeks.
1059
01:02:21,166 --> 01:02:23,583
I'm talking about,
what if I went for two years?
1060
01:02:24,916 --> 01:02:28,083
Well, I'd just turn up my toes and…
1061
01:02:34,041 --> 01:02:37,082
It's been such a great thing,
1062
01:02:37,083 --> 01:02:39,374
what you've done for me,
1063
01:02:39,375 --> 01:02:40,999
because I couldn't have done
1064
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,833
many of the things that you've taken over.
1065
01:02:45,958 --> 01:02:48,083
And you've done it well.
1066
01:02:50,958 --> 01:02:54,125
[waves crash softly in distance]
1067
01:02:57,458 --> 01:03:00,583
[pensive music playing]
1068
01:03:09,708 --> 01:03:11,165
[Beverly] Come in.
1069
01:03:11,166 --> 01:03:13,040
[Hanh] Hello, my dear.
1070
01:03:13,041 --> 01:03:14,874
Let me just…
1071
01:03:14,875 --> 01:03:16,624
- Whoops-a-daisy!
- Hello!
1072
01:03:16,625 --> 01:03:18,750
- Heya.
- Hey.
1073
01:03:20,625 --> 01:03:24,374
Now that I have
moved away from your area,
1074
01:03:24,375 --> 01:03:26,624
I would like to introduce
1075
01:03:26,625 --> 01:03:29,582
another care finder in this area.
1076
01:03:29,583 --> 01:03:33,165
And they will assist me, like…
1077
01:03:33,166 --> 01:03:35,499
- What I do.
- Going shopping?
1078
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:40,457
That's something that
I am going to find out today
1079
01:03:40,458 --> 01:03:42,624
with My Aged Care.
1080
01:03:42,625 --> 01:03:44,749
[phone line rings]
1081
01:03:44,750 --> 01:03:46,540
[automated voice on phone]
Good afternoon.
1082
01:03:46,541 --> 01:03:49,540
Welcome to the Online Services
Support Hotline.
1083
01:03:49,541 --> 01:03:53,665
This help desk provides customer support
for your myGov account
1084
01:03:53,666 --> 01:03:56,582
or Services Australia online accounts.
1085
01:03:56,583 --> 01:03:59,582
If you haven't received your security code
1086
01:03:59,583 --> 01:04:01,832
to sign into your myGov account,
1087
01:04:01,833 --> 01:04:07,708
go to my.gov.au and search
'tips for troubleshooting'…
1088
01:04:08,416 --> 01:04:10,415
[Beverly] Keeping up with technology.
1089
01:04:10,416 --> 01:04:13,290
I'm not frightened of it,
I just can't keep up with it,
1090
01:04:13,291 --> 01:04:15,582
you know, at the present moment.
1091
01:04:15,583 --> 01:04:22,582
Your whole system sort of goes into
a bit of a rut and a grind.
1092
01:04:22,583 --> 01:04:24,165
[automated voice] For assistance
1093
01:04:24,166 --> 01:04:26,249
with a myGov linking code, press 2.
1094
01:04:26,250 --> 01:04:29,499
When they do that thing
where they give you a little…
1095
01:04:29,500 --> 01:04:31,582
code, a special code,
1096
01:04:31,583 --> 01:04:33,457
I say, "Don't do that!"
1097
01:04:33,458 --> 01:04:35,457
Because my eyesight
1098
01:04:35,458 --> 01:04:38,707
and the rest of me
just can't cope with it.
1099
01:04:38,708 --> 01:04:40,749
[automated voice]
To hear these options again,
1100
01:04:40,750 --> 01:04:42,457
please press 9.
1101
01:04:42,458 --> 01:04:44,749
[rock music plays on phone]
1102
01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:46,583
[Beverly] When you can't hear,
1103
01:04:47,083 --> 01:04:49,957
sounds come in at different levels.
1104
01:04:49,958 --> 01:04:52,207
It can be very disconcerting.
1105
01:04:52,208 --> 01:04:56,125
And when they play that music…
1106
01:04:57,166 --> 01:05:02,082
Oh, it can play havoc
with your hearing aids.
1107
01:05:02,083 --> 01:05:04,540
[laughs] You know,
1108
01:05:04,541 --> 01:05:06,749
sometimes they make funny noises
1109
01:05:06,750 --> 01:05:10,790
and then you're trying to listen
to people on the telephone.
1110
01:05:10,791 --> 01:05:12,540
It's a challenge.
1111
01:05:12,541 --> 01:05:15,249
[rock music continues on phone]
1112
01:05:15,250 --> 01:05:17,540
[Hanh] I would simplify things,
you know?
1113
01:05:17,541 --> 01:05:21,374
Like, I would put a person, a human being
1114
01:05:21,375 --> 01:05:24,582
to answer the phone
1115
01:05:24,583 --> 01:05:28,249
and I would not go, like,
from option A to option C,
1116
01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:32,290
then to option B
and then to option C again
1117
01:05:32,291 --> 01:05:34,124
and then by the time you reach someone,
1118
01:05:34,125 --> 01:05:35,874
it's, like, an hour.
1119
01:05:35,875 --> 01:05:38,999
[gentle music playing]
1120
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,165
One last thing
that I also found out…
1121
01:05:42,166 --> 01:05:44,499
I don't know if you're interested at all.
1122
01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:48,415
Knox City Council, around here
they have a talking cafe.
1123
01:05:48,416 --> 01:05:51,249
- They have which?
- A talking cafe.
1124
01:05:51,250 --> 01:05:54,582
It's, like, for people who are over 65
1125
01:05:54,583 --> 01:05:57,999
who are feeling a bit isolated.
1126
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,415
Oh, they might have a book club too.
1127
01:06:00,416 --> 01:06:02,832
They do! They do meet, like, a lot of…
1128
01:06:02,833 --> 01:06:05,374
[Beverly] I love my independence.
1129
01:06:05,375 --> 01:06:08,916
I'll do the best I can to maintain it.
1130
01:06:10,041 --> 01:06:14,666
I am grateful for all those
who made it happen.
1131
01:06:16,583 --> 01:06:19,332
That little lass, she's…
1132
01:06:19,333 --> 01:06:23,833
she's just absolutely wonderful.
1133
01:06:26,666 --> 01:06:28,332
- Thank you, sweetheart.
- All right.
1134
01:06:28,333 --> 01:06:29,999
Okay, I will see you soon.
1135
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,915
[Hanh] You'd think, as a care finder,
1136
01:06:31,916 --> 01:06:34,832
you'd do, like, only linking
someone in My Aged Care,
1137
01:06:34,833 --> 01:06:36,499
but I do more than that.
1138
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:38,165
- Bye.
- Bye, darling.
1139
01:06:38,166 --> 01:06:40,165
[Hanh] There's a lot of loneliness.
1140
01:06:40,166 --> 01:06:43,874
You rely on some worker
to come to your home
1141
01:06:43,875 --> 01:06:47,125
and to give you that
community connection.
1142
01:06:54,958 --> 01:06:57,000
[Luciana] Which one
was the house you were born?
1143
01:06:58,083 --> 01:07:00,540
- This one.
- And where did you ski?
1144
01:07:00,541 --> 01:07:03,832
Here, there, everywhere,
cross-country.
1145
01:07:03,833 --> 01:07:06,707
[Luciana] And how old were you
when you started skiing?
1146
01:07:06,708 --> 01:07:08,624
12.
1147
01:07:08,625 --> 01:07:13,124
And he's got also…
He won a prize skiing.
1148
01:07:13,125 --> 01:07:15,540
Cross-country championship. Yeah.
1149
01:07:15,541 --> 01:07:17,833
Yeah, yeah, at 12.
1150
01:07:19,958 --> 01:07:21,999
I think at home
1151
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:28,165
you would have a better quality of life
with support services.
1152
01:07:28,166 --> 01:07:31,499
[Sue] So your plan
is for you and Mario to stay here?
1153
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:35,582
I keep on telling him,
"Mate, we've got to keep healthy.
1154
01:07:35,583 --> 01:07:37,332
We've got to keep healthy."
1155
01:07:37,333 --> 01:07:40,207
So Mario might want to go up the ladder.
1156
01:07:40,208 --> 01:07:41,915
I say, "No, no, no, no, no.
1157
01:07:41,916 --> 01:07:43,915
We've got to keep healthy
1158
01:07:43,916 --> 01:07:48,166
because the alternative is much worse."
1159
01:07:49,208 --> 01:07:54,040
We're a proud lot.
We want to be independent as much.
1160
01:07:54,041 --> 01:07:58,833
So we ask for help
when it's almost too late.
1161
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,457
Yes, there is some isolation,
1162
01:08:02,458 --> 01:08:05,999
but I think I feel confident
1163
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,166
that we could stay at home a long time.
1164
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:14,207
I go to the University of the Third Age.
1165
01:08:14,208 --> 01:08:17,499
I love it because not only
do I practice my Italian,
1166
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:20,708
but the knowledge is great.
1167
01:08:21,750 --> 01:08:24,415
Mario loves his garden,
1168
01:08:24,416 --> 01:08:26,832
can fix anything
you put in front of him,
1169
01:08:26,833 --> 01:08:28,582
but he doesn't want to read,
1170
01:08:28,583 --> 01:08:30,915
he doesn't want to learn anything else.
1171
01:08:30,916 --> 01:08:35,499
So take that away,
and that would be real trouble.
1172
01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:39,915
There would be depression
setting in and all that.
1173
01:08:39,916 --> 01:08:42,999
"No, no, no, no. I don't need
anyone to do the garden."
1174
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,207
And Mario helps me to clean.
1175
01:08:45,208 --> 01:08:47,249
He does the kitchen every night.
1176
01:08:47,250 --> 01:08:53,124
I cook and he does
the dishes, cleaning…
1177
01:08:53,125 --> 01:08:55,082
[Sue laughs] He's the perfect husband.
1178
01:08:55,083 --> 01:08:58,874
- Hey, hang on.
- [Mario chuckles] Oh, dear!
1179
01:08:58,875 --> 01:09:01,500
Hang on a second!
1180
01:09:02,916 --> 01:09:05,624
[laughs]
1181
01:09:05,625 --> 01:09:07,415
There's no such thing.
1182
01:09:07,416 --> 01:09:10,040
You… you could say 98%.
1183
01:09:10,041 --> 01:09:13,207
- [Sue] All right.
- Leave 2%.
1184
01:09:13,208 --> 01:09:16,375
[romantic Italian folk music playing]
1185
01:09:32,625 --> 01:09:36,165
[Luciana] We can't stay up
until 12 o'clock anymore,
1186
01:09:36,166 --> 01:09:38,916
but we dance together.
1187
01:09:47,041 --> 01:09:50,166
[romantic music continues]
1188
01:09:52,958 --> 01:09:55,540
The first time I sat with him
1189
01:09:55,541 --> 01:09:59,415
when we went
to that blessed Boathouse,
1190
01:09:59,416 --> 01:10:01,249
I felt good.
1191
01:10:01,250 --> 01:10:02,875
I just felt good.
1192
01:10:04,208 --> 01:10:05,875
And that's it.
1193
01:10:07,125 --> 01:10:10,624
[romantic music continues]
1194
01:10:10,625 --> 01:10:12,875
[ducks quacking]
1195
01:10:14,666 --> 01:10:17,041
But you need
to want to grow old together.
1196
01:10:18,083 --> 01:10:22,332
I'm not perfect. He's not perfect.
1197
01:10:22,333 --> 01:10:26,582
But you have to make a decision
whether you want that relationship
1198
01:10:26,583 --> 01:10:29,749
and, therefore,
you work towards that.
1199
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:34,749
If your idea is to grow old together,
1200
01:10:34,750 --> 01:10:37,125
then it can happen.
1201
01:10:39,708 --> 01:10:42,082
[girl] Older people need proper care.
1202
01:10:42,083 --> 01:10:44,957
They need things like
strong communication.
1203
01:10:44,958 --> 01:10:46,999
- Touch.
- Empathy.
1204
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,624
- Love.
- Dignity.
1205
01:10:48,625 --> 01:10:51,332
- Respect.
- [all] And care.
1206
01:10:51,333 --> 01:10:53,499
So if we keep cutting corners,
1207
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:55,874
it's not just Grandma who's in trouble.
1208
01:10:55,875 --> 01:10:58,790
[all] We're all in trouble.
1209
01:10:58,791 --> 01:11:01,916
[students applaud]
1210
01:11:07,041 --> 01:11:09,750
[distant chatter]
1211
01:11:14,250 --> 01:11:17,457
[woman] When people arrive
at our dementia cafes,
1212
01:11:17,458 --> 01:11:20,290
they're welcomed
by our volunteer team,
1213
01:11:20,291 --> 01:11:22,082
by our facilitator.
1214
01:11:22,083 --> 01:11:24,040
Everybody has a name tag.
1215
01:11:24,041 --> 01:11:25,625
It just has their name on it.
1216
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:28,374
There's no other labels
1217
01:11:28,375 --> 01:11:30,207
or anything that highlights
1218
01:11:30,208 --> 01:11:33,124
that they might be living
with dementia themselves.
1219
01:11:33,125 --> 01:11:35,916
And the beauty of that is,
is that nobody feels
1220
01:11:36,291 --> 01:11:38,165
different to anybody else.
1221
01:11:38,166 --> 01:11:40,790
That everybody is equal
in our cafes.
1222
01:11:40,791 --> 01:11:44,249
[woman 2] Oh, we can't win.
We don't remember the game!
1223
01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:46,415
[man] Yeah, coffee.
1224
01:11:46,416 --> 01:11:49,749
- [woman 3] Coffee? Milk? Milk?
- [man] Yeah.
1225
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:51,499
You've got the flat white?
1226
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:53,374
No, it's a good atmosphere here.
1227
01:11:53,375 --> 01:11:56,082
Oh, and the people
are interesting as well.
1228
01:11:56,083 --> 01:11:58,040
[indistinct chatter]
1229
01:11:58,041 --> 01:12:00,165
[Jess Conley] One story I hear
time and time again
1230
01:12:00,166 --> 01:12:02,040
from new enquiries is,
1231
01:12:02,041 --> 01:12:04,124
"My partner has been
diagnosed with dementia
1232
01:12:04,125 --> 01:12:06,915
and, as a result, they have
withdrawn from society.
1233
01:12:06,916 --> 01:12:08,624
They're too scared to go out.
1234
01:12:08,625 --> 01:12:12,374
They're embarrassed,
they're ashamed and so they withdraw."
1235
01:12:12,375 --> 01:12:17,082
So to have a social outlet to come to
1236
01:12:17,083 --> 01:12:20,499
where everybody's going
through similar experiences,
1237
01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:24,290
the best feedback I can
receive is when people say,
1238
01:12:24,291 --> 01:12:27,499
"I can't tell who are the ones
living with dementia and who aren't,"
1239
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:30,374
because everybody's interacting,
everybody's enjoying themselves
1240
01:12:30,375 --> 01:12:31,915
and everybody has a connection.
1241
01:12:31,916 --> 01:12:35,540
It's Judy and Roy's 65th
wedding anniversary tomorrow.
1242
01:12:35,541 --> 01:12:38,707
[all applaud]
1243
01:12:38,708 --> 01:12:41,332
And she said, "Don't tell anyone!"
1244
01:12:41,333 --> 01:12:43,582
[laughter]
1245
01:12:43,583 --> 01:12:46,375
[Conley] And it looks
like our guests are here!
1246
01:12:51,208 --> 01:12:55,915
Today we invited
some of the Kinder children
1247
01:12:55,916 --> 01:12:57,624
from the early learning center
1248
01:12:57,625 --> 01:12:59,999
to come and join us
preparing for Christmas.
1249
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,540
So we generally like to do some
sort of craft activity
1250
01:13:04,541 --> 01:13:09,290
or something that we can then display
at our Christmas party.
1251
01:13:09,291 --> 01:13:12,416
[light whimsical music playing]
1252
01:13:13,458 --> 01:13:16,583
[people chatter busily]
1253
01:13:22,875 --> 01:13:26,540
[Holland] They're part of a community,
they get to speak with younger people,
1254
01:13:26,541 --> 01:13:30,124
they don't feel like they're locked away
and I think that's the sort of…
1255
01:13:30,125 --> 01:13:32,790
That's the first thing that
we get wrong in Australia.
1256
01:13:32,791 --> 01:13:36,249
Our aged care homes
are pretty much completely segregated
1257
01:13:36,250 --> 01:13:37,958
from the rest of the community.
1258
01:13:38,458 --> 01:13:43,374
I think models that allow older people
some presence in the general community
1259
01:13:43,375 --> 01:13:46,499
rather than being
entirely kind of locked away,
1260
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:48,749
seem like a really good starting place.
1261
01:13:48,750 --> 01:13:51,082
[Michael Wynne] Every one
of us is going to get older.
1262
01:13:51,083 --> 01:13:54,082
It's the one sector,
more than any other,
1263
01:13:54,083 --> 01:13:57,499
where we can start involving community.
1264
01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:59,957
Bring them back into taking control
1265
01:13:59,958 --> 01:14:02,457
of their lives, of their communities,
1266
01:14:02,458 --> 01:14:04,165
instead of being controlled.
1267
01:14:04,166 --> 01:14:07,374
And I think it's government's job
to build community
1268
01:14:07,375 --> 01:14:10,749
so that community takes over
these roles and local…
1269
01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:12,457
These things are managed locally
1270
01:14:12,458 --> 01:14:14,999
and supported by central government.
1271
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,165
He's got a blue shirt, has he?
1272
01:14:17,166 --> 01:14:21,457
[Linda Payi Ford] As soon as babies
can understand language
1273
01:14:21,458 --> 01:14:24,707
in the mother's tummy, in the womb,
1274
01:14:24,708 --> 01:14:27,457
through their growing years,
1275
01:14:27,458 --> 01:14:29,916
they should be hearing about aged care…
1276
01:14:30,875 --> 01:14:36,458
and the sorts of issues
that elderly people face.
1277
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:40,582
It would often be very difficult
1278
01:14:40,583 --> 01:14:43,499
if the person was solely on their own,
1279
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:45,415
but if they're in a community
1280
01:14:45,416 --> 01:14:48,207
and they're loved by their community,
1281
01:14:48,208 --> 01:14:54,457
um, the community will step up
and come and help.
1282
01:14:54,458 --> 01:14:58,625
[people chattering]
1283
01:15:00,750 --> 01:15:03,832
Until our community are engaged
1284
01:15:03,833 --> 01:15:06,040
as citizens and participants
1285
01:15:06,041 --> 01:15:11,165
who care about creating
a better future of ageing,
1286
01:15:11,166 --> 01:15:13,583
no structural reform…
1287
01:15:14,625 --> 01:15:16,250
will get us there.
1288
01:15:18,875 --> 01:15:22,665
[girl 1] Once again,
governments come and go.
1289
01:15:22,666 --> 01:15:26,874
[girl 2] A guy named Anthony
promised to fix it all.
1290
01:15:26,875 --> 01:15:28,750
{\an8}Good afternoon.
1291
01:15:29,791 --> 01:15:33,707
{\an8}Today, we are putting
the care back into aged care.
1292
01:15:33,708 --> 01:15:36,332
We're announcing
the greatest improvement
1293
01:15:36,333 --> 01:15:39,749
in aged care in 30 years.
1294
01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:41,499
[girl 3] This sounds good.
1295
01:15:41,500 --> 01:15:44,332
Will he make Grandma's life better?
1296
01:15:44,333 --> 01:15:47,040
[Annie Butler] In October 2022,
1297
01:15:47,041 --> 01:15:52,707
they passed a bill that was an amendment
to the Aged Care Act.
1298
01:15:52,708 --> 01:15:55,582
"You must have a registered nurse
in every nursing home."
1299
01:15:55,583 --> 01:15:57,999
[girl 1] But the aged care industry
1300
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,124
didn't like this idea at all.
1301
01:16:00,125 --> 01:16:02,874
Once again, they cried poor.
1302
01:16:02,875 --> 01:16:05,915
{\an8}[reporter] The families of
almost 200 aged care residents
1303
01:16:05,916 --> 01:16:08,124
{\an8}are in a state of disbelief tonight,
1304
01:16:08,125 --> 01:16:11,665
with the shock closure
of three Wesley Mission nursing homes.
1305
01:16:11,666 --> 01:16:13,540
Joining me now is the CEO
1306
01:16:13,541 --> 01:16:16,832
and Superintendent of Wesley Mission,
Reverend Stu Cameron.
1307
01:16:16,833 --> 01:16:19,165
People who are watching,
should they be worried
1308
01:16:19,166 --> 01:16:22,582
the home that their parents
are in could be next?
1309
01:16:22,583 --> 01:16:24,915
I think… Leila,
I think there's a lot of change
1310
01:16:24,916 --> 01:16:27,040
that has happened
and will continue to happen…
1311
01:16:27,041 --> 01:16:28,374
- So yes?
- Yes.
1312
01:16:28,375 --> 01:16:29,749
I think there will be more.
1313
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:34,999
So they're very worried about
threats that come from nursing homes.
1314
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,165
"Oh, we have to…
We're gonna have to shut down.
1315
01:16:37,166 --> 01:16:39,457
If we don't get this,
we're gonna have to shut down."
1316
01:16:39,458 --> 01:16:42,665
And so they basically hold
the government hostage.
1317
01:16:42,666 --> 01:16:44,582
I think the profit motive
1318
01:16:44,583 --> 01:16:49,499
is very damaging to health and aged care.
1319
01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:52,041
They're very uncomfortable bedfellows.
1320
01:16:56,833 --> 01:16:58,541
[gate squeaks]
1321
01:17:08,250 --> 01:17:10,874
[footsteps approach]
1322
01:17:10,875 --> 01:17:12,707
What was that?
1323
01:17:12,708 --> 01:17:14,625
There's the phone.
1324
01:17:21,625 --> 01:17:24,000
Do I put this out tomorrow?
1325
01:17:25,041 --> 01:17:26,500
Friday.
1326
01:17:28,583 --> 01:17:31,416
How long have you been
doing exercise classes for?
1327
01:17:32,083 --> 01:17:34,624
Oh, this is my second year.
1328
01:17:34,625 --> 01:17:37,499
- [Sue] And do you like it?
- Yes, I do.
1329
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:39,125
- Very much.
- [Sue] Why?
1330
01:17:39,875 --> 01:17:41,541
Why do you like it?
1331
01:17:44,125 --> 01:17:47,040
I like it because it's…
1332
01:17:47,041 --> 01:17:51,457
I'm able to do
or try to do all of them.
1333
01:17:51,458 --> 01:17:54,124
It's not that difficult.
1334
01:17:54,125 --> 01:17:56,832
And they're very nice people.
1335
01:17:56,833 --> 01:17:59,500
But do you do it for a reason?
1336
01:18:00,791 --> 01:18:04,540
Well, I keep hearing that exercises
1337
01:18:04,541 --> 01:18:06,750
are terribly important.
1338
01:18:07,916 --> 01:18:11,249
I should do some
on other days as well,
1339
01:18:11,250 --> 01:18:14,083
but there is no-one
that will pick me up.
1340
01:18:17,166 --> 01:18:20,624
Last year, my legs felt stronger
1341
01:18:20,625 --> 01:18:23,124
so I'm hoping
the same thing will happen
1342
01:18:23,125 --> 01:18:27,791
'cause I've had no exercises
over the Christmas period.
1343
01:18:28,833 --> 01:18:32,040
So doing it, surely,
is partly trying to keep you
1344
01:18:32,041 --> 01:18:33,915
out of a nursing home maybe.
1345
01:18:33,916 --> 01:18:36,124
'Cause if you couldn't walk,
what would happen?
1346
01:18:36,125 --> 01:18:38,915
Oh, I'd have to go in…
1347
01:18:38,916 --> 01:18:41,874
or you'd have to come
and live with me.
1348
01:18:41,875 --> 01:18:46,207
[Sue laughs] We don't want that.
Where would I sleep?
1349
01:18:46,208 --> 01:18:49,207
In one of the bedrooms.
I've got two.
1350
01:18:49,208 --> 01:18:53,082
[Sue chuckles] I'll come and
visit you at the nursing home.
1351
01:18:53,083 --> 01:18:54,333
Yeah.
1352
01:18:55,708 --> 01:18:58,083
- [woman] Take your time.
- [Margaret] Yes.
1353
01:18:59,125 --> 01:19:00,707
[man speaks indistinctly]
1354
01:19:00,708 --> 01:19:03,540
- Yeah, just push my back.
- Oh, push your back. All right.
1355
01:19:03,541 --> 01:19:05,499
- A bit of a shove.
- [Margaret chuckles]
1356
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:06,666
You right?
1357
01:19:08,041 --> 01:19:09,374
- All righty.
- Yes, good.
1358
01:19:09,375 --> 01:19:11,332
- You comfortable? Sorry.
- Thank you. Thank you.
1359
01:19:11,333 --> 01:19:13,374
- That's good.
- No worries.
1360
01:19:13,375 --> 01:19:16,375
[quirky music playing]
1361
01:19:19,250 --> 01:19:20,708
[sighs]
1362
01:19:24,333 --> 01:19:27,582
I've travelled all around the world.
1363
01:19:27,583 --> 01:19:29,624
[woman] How lucky are you, Margaret?
1364
01:19:29,625 --> 01:19:32,415
- I don't know about that.
- [woman] Yeah.
1365
01:19:32,416 --> 01:19:34,415
Some of it was terrific,
1366
01:19:34,416 --> 01:19:37,290
but we had a year
in the Philippines…
1367
01:19:37,291 --> 01:19:39,915
[woman] Oh, wow. For your
husband's work, was it?
1368
01:19:39,916 --> 01:19:43,624
Yes, he was at the
University of the Philippines.
1369
01:19:43,625 --> 01:19:46,290
And I've been to the Chinese Wall.
1370
01:19:46,291 --> 01:19:49,290
- I nearly forgot that.
- [woman] Oh!
1371
01:19:49,291 --> 01:19:52,832
Yeah, I went with a friend years ago.
1372
01:19:52,833 --> 01:19:54,291
[woman] Yep.
1373
01:19:55,958 --> 01:19:59,125
[people chattering]
1374
01:20:00,916 --> 01:20:03,332
[Margaret] That's my daughter,
by the way,
1375
01:20:03,333 --> 01:20:05,957
that's doing the film,
and that's my granddaughter.
1376
01:20:05,958 --> 01:20:08,999
[man] Oh, right, okay. Oh, hey.
1377
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,790
- [woman] Hello.
- [man] How are you?
1378
01:20:10,791 --> 01:20:12,915
[Margaret] She's making
one about old age.
1379
01:20:12,916 --> 01:20:16,124
- [man] Oh, yeah?
- And I'm in it. [chuckles]
1380
01:20:16,125 --> 01:20:19,250
[people chattering indistinctly]
1381
01:20:25,083 --> 01:20:26,874
[Margaret] I thought I was going to fall.
1382
01:20:26,875 --> 01:20:28,999
That's always my terror.
1383
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,125
[quirky music playing]
1384
01:20:40,958 --> 01:20:42,458
Three more each.
1385
01:20:44,208 --> 01:20:45,333
Two.
1386
01:20:46,833 --> 01:20:49,874
And one.
All right, legs out straight.
1387
01:20:49,875 --> 01:20:52,500
Let's just raise them
up and down 10 times.
1388
01:20:53,625 --> 01:20:56,665
Yep, and get them arms going!
1389
01:20:56,666 --> 01:20:58,957
Up and down, sideways.
1390
01:20:58,958 --> 01:21:01,208
Six, seven…
1391
01:21:03,208 --> 01:21:04,874
…eight…
1392
01:21:04,875 --> 01:21:07,040
So it'll be right, left, right.
1393
01:21:07,041 --> 01:21:11,207
Right up, left side, right straight.
1394
01:21:11,208 --> 01:21:12,665
[Margaret] Oh, my God!
1395
01:21:12,666 --> 01:21:16,375
- So, up, hook, right.
- Side…
1396
01:21:16,875 --> 01:21:19,041
Right, hook, right.
1397
01:21:22,416 --> 01:21:26,000
All right, guys, I reckon
you've done very well today.
1398
01:21:27,166 --> 01:21:30,375
[cheerful carnival music playing]
1399
01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:38,290
No-one really talks about
aged care until they're old.
1400
01:21:38,291 --> 01:21:41,415
Yeah, we should be talking
about it a lot earlier.
1401
01:21:41,416 --> 01:21:43,582
We'll never fix
our aged care system
1402
01:21:43,583 --> 01:21:47,124
unless we realize
we're all in this together.
1403
01:21:47,125 --> 01:21:49,457
Maybe governments could work for us
1404
01:21:49,458 --> 01:21:51,582
instead of whoever
pays them the most.
1405
01:21:51,583 --> 01:21:55,624
But surely our governments
care more about people than money.
1406
01:21:55,625 --> 01:21:57,374
Yeah, you'd hope so.
1407
01:21:57,375 --> 01:22:00,165
But the lobby is very powerful.
1408
01:22:00,166 --> 01:22:02,374
If they continue to drive policy,
1409
01:22:02,375 --> 01:22:04,208
aged care won't work for us.
1410
01:22:07,625 --> 01:22:11,583
[plays bright folk tune]
1411
01:22:31,333 --> 01:22:35,457
[Luciana] We're involved
in a seniors Italian group
1412
01:22:35,458 --> 01:22:38,374
of 70 people.
1413
01:22:38,375 --> 01:22:42,207
There are 10 males.
1414
01:22:42,208 --> 01:22:45,041
The rest, they're all female,
1415
01:22:45,791 --> 01:22:49,124
and they all live at home.
1416
01:22:49,125 --> 01:22:52,250
[bright folk tune continues]
1417
01:23:22,250 --> 01:23:24,041
[music fades]
1418
01:23:25,583 --> 01:23:30,207
Most of our members
have had a pretty hard life,
1419
01:23:30,208 --> 01:23:33,415
like all… all migrants
1420
01:23:33,416 --> 01:23:36,915
of the '50s, '60s and '70s.
1421
01:23:36,916 --> 01:23:40,957
You reach a certain age,
you've had enough.
1422
01:23:40,958 --> 01:23:43,957
Not that once they stop working,
1423
01:23:43,958 --> 01:23:45,582
they've got nothing to do.
1424
01:23:45,583 --> 01:23:47,707
They raise all
the grandchildren first.
1425
01:23:47,708 --> 01:23:52,165
But once you arrive at this age,
you've had enough.
1426
01:23:52,166 --> 01:23:53,874
["Forever Young" by Alphaville plays]
1427
01:23:53,875 --> 01:23:56,832
♪ Let's dance in style
Let's dance for a while ♪
1428
01:23:56,833 --> 01:23:58,540
♪ Heaven can wait ♪
1429
01:23:58,541 --> 01:24:00,707
♪ We're only watching the skies ♪
1430
01:24:00,708 --> 01:24:02,374
♪ Hoping for the best ♪
1431
01:24:02,375 --> 01:24:04,082
♪ But expecting the worst ♪
1432
01:24:04,083 --> 01:24:07,083
♪ Are you gonna drop the bomb or not? ♪
1433
01:24:08,125 --> 01:24:11,665
♪ Let us die young
Or let us live forever ♪
1434
01:24:11,666 --> 01:24:15,290
♪ We don't have the power
But we never say never ♪
1435
01:24:15,291 --> 01:24:17,290
♪ Sitting in a sandpit ♪
1436
01:24:17,291 --> 01:24:19,124
♪ Life is a short trip ♪
1437
01:24:19,125 --> 01:24:21,458
♪ The music's for the sad man ♪
1438
01:24:22,666 --> 01:24:25,999
♪ Can you imagine when this race is won? ♪
1439
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,374
♪ Turn our golden faces into the sun ♪
1440
01:24:29,375 --> 01:24:31,582
♪ Praising our leaders ♪
1441
01:24:31,583 --> 01:24:33,290
♪ We're getting in tune ♪
1442
01:24:33,291 --> 01:24:35,582
♪ The music's played by the ♪
1443
01:24:35,583 --> 01:24:36,957
♪ The mad man ♪
1444
01:24:36,958 --> 01:24:39,207
♪ Forever young ♪
1445
01:24:39,208 --> 01:24:42,916
♪ I want to be forever young ♪
1446
01:24:43,958 --> 01:24:47,749
♪ Do you really want to live forever? ♪
1447
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:49,249
♪ Forever ♪
1448
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:51,332
♪ And ever ♪
1449
01:24:51,333 --> 01:24:53,915
♪ Forever young ♪
1450
01:24:53,916 --> 01:24:56,374
♪ I want to be forever young… ♪
1451
01:24:56,375 --> 01:24:58,290
So you want to do a cheers?
1452
01:24:58,291 --> 01:24:59,750
Mmm.
1453
01:25:01,250 --> 01:25:03,499
So, Mum, why are
you doing this film?
1454
01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:06,290
Because I thought it would help you
1455
01:25:06,291 --> 01:25:09,749
because I wasn't as helpful
when you were doing the others.
1456
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:12,832
You must understand, I don't…
1457
01:25:12,833 --> 01:25:16,499
You're comfortable with all these things.
I'm not.
1458
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:19,374
- But we're finished now.
- Nearly finished.
1459
01:25:19,375 --> 01:25:22,290
But it's a nice opportunity
to spend time together.
1460
01:25:22,291 --> 01:25:24,040
Would you suggest that?
1461
01:25:24,041 --> 01:25:28,457
And Lola and Claudie
and Ben and Jeremy and…
1462
01:25:28,458 --> 01:25:31,124
Well, I don't know
so much about them,
1463
01:25:31,125 --> 01:25:36,124
but I'm sure if I got to know
them more intimately,
1464
01:25:36,125 --> 01:25:39,958
I would find they were
absolutely charming.
1465
01:25:40,958 --> 01:25:44,499
- I think that's enough now.
- Okay, no worries.
1466
01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:46,499
- Good.
- Well done.
1467
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:48,999
- Thank you.
- Nothing else you want to add?
1468
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,207
- No.
- You sure?
1469
01:25:51,208 --> 01:25:53,457
Absolutely certain.
1470
01:25:53,458 --> 01:25:55,499
Thank you so much, Mum, for doing it.
1471
01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:57,999
- Okay.
- I really… You can relax.
1472
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,791
- Yes, good, good.
- Yeah.
1473
01:26:00,375 --> 01:26:01,707
Goodbye!
1474
01:26:01,708 --> 01:26:03,541
[laughter]
1475
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:08,082
Oh, dear. Goodbye.
1476
01:26:08,083 --> 01:26:11,500
- [woman] Well done, Granny.
- Oh, thank you, darling.
1477
01:26:12,041 --> 01:26:13,332
[woman] Thank you.
1478
01:26:13,333 --> 01:26:15,249
Oh, she's beautiful, isn't she?
1479
01:26:15,250 --> 01:26:16,749
Look how skinny she is.
1480
01:26:16,750 --> 01:26:18,665
All righty, well done.
1481
01:26:18,666 --> 01:26:20,749
And that's a wrap!
1482
01:26:20,750 --> 01:26:22,999
♪ And ever ♪
1483
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,457
♪ Forever young ♪
1484
01:26:25,458 --> 01:26:29,250
♪ I want to be forever young ♪
1485
01:26:30,250 --> 01:26:34,207
♪ Do you really want to live forever? ♪
1486
01:26:34,208 --> 01:26:39,040
♪ Forever young ♪
1487
01:26:39,041 --> 01:26:42,583
[song continues]
1488
01:27:22,833 --> 01:27:24,916
[song fades]
1489
01:28:17,708 --> 01:28:21,250
{\an8}[light quirky music playing]
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