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This programme contains some
strong language
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Hey, guys. How's it going?
OK. Right.
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HUMMING: Do-do-do, do-do...
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The Lost Bass! Yay!
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It's a story. It is a story.
You know, it's a quite a thing.
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Yeah. And this being my first bass
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that I'd got in Hamburg,
um, all those years ago.
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I had an attachment to it. You know,
it just went off into the universe.
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You know, it's like,
"Where did it go?"
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There must be an answer, you know?
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Somebody's got it.
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# Oh, darling
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# Please believe me
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# I'll never do you no harm
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# Believe me when I tell you
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# I'll never do you no harm
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# Oh, darling
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CROWD CHEERS
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# Please believe me
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# I'll never make it alone
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# Believe me when I beg you, ooh!
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# Don't ever leave me alone
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# When you told me
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# You didn't need me any more
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# Well, you know, I nearly broke
down and cried
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# When you told me
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# You didn't need me any more
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# Well, you know, I nearly fell down
and died. #
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Fantastic, isn't it? And as you see,
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you can see what's been written
in...
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This was one of the main
places where they used
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to sit and write songs.
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They'd sneak, bunk off school,
come in here, eat some fried eggs.
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There's a thing about fried eggs.
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I don't know why. Everywhere...
If you go to Hunter Davies' story,
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they're all eating fried eggs.
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It must have been just
after the war.
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They must have just loved fried
eggs.
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LAUGHTER
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This is where we used to live.
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Our humble abode in Forthlin Road,
Allerton, Liverpool.
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And this is where we used to live
as a little family.
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And, uh, there's people out there.
What are they doing now?
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That's why we left.
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Lots of lovely memories.
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Not enough of my mum
and the smells
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that would have come from
the kitchen
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when she did Sunday dinners.
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She'd do off-cuts of lamb
or beef and sneak them in to us,
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her little boys.
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"Sh. Don't tell your dad. Sh."
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See, whenever I talk about my mum,
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it's always dangerous
because this is where she went from.
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This is our kid's little room.
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Yeah, I stopped them going in there
for many years,
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because it
was too important to me
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and my brother.
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I was 12, my brother was 14,
and she died of cancer.
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When you're 12 or 14,
you don't understand.
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You have to get on with life.
It's... You have to survive.
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And because Dad had been in
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his own band, at
the back of his mind,
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he always thought,
"Well, that was a way out."
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And so he bought me a banjo
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and my brother a guitar,
a Spanish guitar.
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I took that out the back window.
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Our kid was sitting
in the back garden,
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lost, just miles
away with his guitar.
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My brother was 14
in that photograph.
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Beatlemania came six years later.
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PAUL: If I'm in a not very good
mood,
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a great thing to do is just take
a guitar.
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Because you think about it,
you sort of hold it to you,
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you know, a guitar, and it's kind
of comforting thing to do.
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You go off into a little
room somewhere,
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you know, on your own and tell
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the guitar your troubles,
kind of thing.
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It's like a cheap psychiatrist,
really.
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And, uh, it turns round
and the guitar
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sort of sends it back to you
and it comes back as a song somehow.
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MUSIC: Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey
by the Beatles
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Well, it started in Hamburg.
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# Ah, Kansas City
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# Going to get my baby
back home... #
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You had gangsters, pimps.
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You had prostitutes.
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You had all you could imagine.
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ARCHIVE: Hamburg is echoing to the
invasion
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from the latest beat groups
from Britain who've taken over.
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I heard the music through a window,
a cellar window.
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I just wanted to see
that rock and roll music.
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The next band came on
and that was The Beatles.
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Paul came
up and I think he was the one
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who talked to the audience first
because he could speak German.
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"Hallo, wie geht es?
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"Guten Tag, sir."
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HE LAUGHS
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It was really sweet.
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I mean, they were young kids.
George was 17,
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you know, and I was a little older
then, you know?
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We became friends
and they came to the house.
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They got great food.
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Put them in the bathtub.
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Because they didn't have any mother
or father to look after them.
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It was a friendship. A friendship
grew up, you know?
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ANSWERPHONE SPEAKS GERMAN
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Oh, danke schon. Hey, Klaus.
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Paul here, and trying to reach you
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so we can have a nice
telephone conversation.
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So I'll try again. Lots of love.
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Bye-bye.
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ANSWERPHONE BEEPS
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Hmm.
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He is still that same little Paul he
was when he was 19 years old.
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You know, it's the same guy.
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I'm a graphic designer.
I had the job to do the cover
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on Revolver.
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I'm a bass player,
but now I can't
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play any guitar chords without
cramp,
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this cramp...hand. I can't do a
fist.
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Can't do a fist, you know?
It doesn't work.
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It doesn't work.
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Luckily enough,
I can still hold my pencil.
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I'm going to do drawings of
the story of his bass.
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I decided to start with the Top Ten.
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That's the first time I actually saw
the bass.
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RECORDING: Well, it's...
So what do you want to talk about?
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We want to talk about you as the
bass player, really.
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So I've got... You've got Paul's
guitar.
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And next to it,
Stuart Sutcliffe's guitar.
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And... PAUL: My bass guitar
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days go back to
when Stuart was the bass player.
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Stu had fallen in love
with this girl called Astrid.
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Stu decided he was going to stay
in Hamburg,
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and so that meant we didn't have
a bass player,
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and John and George said,
"Well, I'm not doing it."
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So that left me.
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RECORDING: Eventually then, I found
a nice little shop
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in the centre of Hamburg,
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and I saw this bass in the window,
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the violin-shaped bass,
the Hofner.
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I don't think it was very expensive,
something like about ยฃ30.
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Then once I got my own bass,
then I was the bass player.
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GUITAR STRUMS, INDISTINCT CHATTER
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I remember it was the last day
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the band played in the Top Ten Club,
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and Stuart, it was his last night
of playing.
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And we were sitting outside.
The sun was shining.
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I think it was Sunday morning.
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And we were all sitting there, being
all pretty stoned.
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Stoned meaning Preludin.
Pills and stuff.
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Talking, talking, talking.
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John was sitting next to me
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and I said,
"Well, Stuart isn't playing.
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"I could play the bass."
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And he said, "Oh, sorry, Klaus.
Paul already bought a bass.
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"He's going to be the next
bass player."
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PRODUCER: It could have been your
moment, Klaus.
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You could have
become Beatle number five.
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Yeah. All right.
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I don't know. Anyway,
I don't even want to think about it.
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I lived in Hamburg through my
brother's letters.
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Suddenly they came back one day
and he had that Hofner.
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It's so unique.
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We were the roadies.
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I probably held that bloody thing.
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And then our kid got a
Ford Classic.
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Looked cool.
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ENGINE REVS
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And their music then...
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..you know, going to The Cavern...
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..the difference was unbelievable.
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It was like,
"Whoa. How...? What happened?"
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We knew we were going somewhere.
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We always felt
that we had something.
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Then you've got John Lennon.
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You know, he was a very witty cat.
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With me, he could hold his own.
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With George, who was, like,
spectacular.
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And then finish it all
up with Ringo.
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So we had a kind of magic.
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# Some other guy now has taken
my love away from me, oh now
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# Some other guy now has taken away
my sweet desire, oh now
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# Some other guy now, I just don't
want to hold my hand, oh now
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# I'm the lonely one, as lonely as I
can feel all right
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# Some other guy... #
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I'm the least
technical person you'll meet.
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So I don't know what I do.
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I just play with it.
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It's a lovely instrument to play,
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and it's kind of easy to play.
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And so I got, I got very used to it
and loved it.
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CHEERING
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# Close your eyes
and I'll kiss you
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# Tomorrow, I'll miss you
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# Remember I'll always be true. #
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This Hofner bass really
suited Paul's style of playing.
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It's very rhythmical,
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but at the same time it's very,
very melodic.
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# All my lovin' to you
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# I'll pretend that I'm kissing
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# The lips I am missing... #
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ISOLATED BASS BOUNCES
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You can hear in lots of songs
that the songs are very,
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very simple and the bass
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does more movement than
any other instrument.
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# And I'll send all my lovin'
to you... #
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I'm a big fan of James Jamerson,
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who was the Motown bass player.
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Because normally bass is...
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IMITATES PLODDING BASSLINE
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But he was going...
IMITATES MORE MELODIC BASSLINE
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I was going, wow, that's a great
way to use the bass.
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# All my lovin'... #
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That set me free. I was like,
"Great.
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"OK, I can make up melodies."
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So as the guys were doing
the main song,
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I would just try
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and put something imaginative
behind it.
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And it was a great feeling. I mean,
I still remember it the moment -
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bingo.
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# I will send to you. #
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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MUSIC: Day Tripper
by the Beatles
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# Got a good reason... #
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The first time I was aware of
the Beatles,
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I'd have been about nine years old.
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My clear memory of that is seeing
them
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on the 6 o'clock television news,
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when all the girls
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were screaming outside the cinemas
and that kind of thing.
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They were playing electric guitars.
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And let's face it, you know,
electric guitars are so sexy.
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My mother would have thought it not
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the right thing to have
an electric guitar.
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That was for bad boys, you know?
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Years later, I was the
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electric guitar manager with Hofner,
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a small German guitar company.
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Subsequently, I've met Paul
McCartney.
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It was at his studio,
down south in England.
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He just walked in and said,
"Oh, hello, you're Mr Hofner.
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"Do you know where my old Hofner's
gone?"
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And I knew
what he meant straight away.
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"My old Hofner" - he meant the '61
bass.
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# And I found out... #
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ENGINE REVS
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We'd been looking for my old bass
for years, but that's
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what happened with Nick.
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I started talking about it
and just saying,
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"Yeah, we're looking for it.
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"I don't know if we'll
ever find it."
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And of course, I had to say to him,
you know,
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I've got no idea where it's gone.
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It's all a bit of a mystery.
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It's the most important bass
of any bass ever, anywhere.
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In terms of anybody actually
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totally associated with
an instrument,
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yeah, McCartney and the Hofner bass.
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There's just something
in the soul of the two of them.
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Here's the old Hofner factory
down in Bavaria.
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It's still standing.
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Poor old place.
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And it was here, in these premises,
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that they built
the bass all those years ago.
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That moment, that turn in history...
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..you almost had to be there,
really,
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to feel the electricity in the air.
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SOUND OF CHEERING
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I was probably bored on a wet
Wednesday,
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I designed and put up the web
page on the on the Hofner website.
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The usual sort of things - if you've
got any information, email us.
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And I think Cathy came up with
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the name #TraceTheBass
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with the hashtag on the front.
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Yes. I think it was you,
was it? It was me.
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Well, there you are - genius.
It's catchy.
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Very catchy. It's good.
Genius, you see.
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#TraceTheBass.
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The whole of our marriage,
you know, for the last 20-odd years,
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Cathy's just supported me with one
lunatic scheme after another,
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you know? And she used to be
a bank manager, you see,
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so she's good at filing stuff.
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We talked about it endlessly.
Endlessly. Yeah. Yeah.
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I don't think there was one purpose
in searching for the bass.
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There was 100 million fans out there
who I knew would be
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thrilled to bits to know
that this thing had come back.
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So it was for everybody,
not just Paul.
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# She loves you,
yeah, yeah, yeah... #
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I was in Liverpool so I could go
every game
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that I could afford to go to.
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27,000 people used to be on the Kop.
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And very emotional sound.
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# Pride can hurt you, too
Apologise... #
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Among the many things I memorised
before I picked up an instrument
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were the harmony parts.
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I can't sing in Paul's register now,
but I could then,
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when I was a kid!
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# And you know you
should be glad... #
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Ooh!
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And we would
cut out cardboard likenesses of
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the guitars we liked
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and draw the controls on them,
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and then mime along with records.
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It was a perfect apprenticeship
for being on Top Of The Pops.
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You know, pretending to play.
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The hardest thing was to make
a Hofner bass,
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because you needed a longer piece
of cardboard for the neck.
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This is like when I'm nine
or something you know?
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# Be glad
Ooh!
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# She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
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# She loves you,
yeah, yeah, yeah... #
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Well, the thing about the Hofner
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is it's very lightweight,
which is great.
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It makes it easier to play.
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So that was the one on all the early
Beatles records.
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It was a very rich period -
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for music, for us,
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particularly for making records.
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# Yeah, yeah, yeah
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# Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. #
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That bass was used an enormous
amount
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and it started to fall to bits.
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And we don't know when -
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again, because all the records are
long gone -
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they ordered another Hofner bass.
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We think it gets delivered
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into his hand on October 4th, 1963.
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They did a gig on an old TV
programme called Ready Steady Go!
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And there's pictures of him
at rehearsal
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and pictures of him actually
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doing the performance to camera,
and both basses are there.
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He's got the '61 from Hamburg -
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it has two pickups close together.
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And he's got this new one.
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They've moved this pickup
down to near the bridge.
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And in some of the shots, he's got
the new one and he's holding it up
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and it hasn't even got
a strap on it.
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So we're kind of concluding
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that it arrived that very day.
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And the '61 gets put
on backup duties, poor thing.
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Within a couple of months of that,
the February,
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they're playing in front
of 70 million people in the USA.
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# I read the news today
Oh, boy
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# About a lucky man
who made the grade
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# And though the news was rather
sad... #
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Meanwhile,
the '61 bass is away being repaired.
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# But I just had to look... #
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Our roadie, Mal, took it off
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and brought it back like new,
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but with a completely
different paint job on it.
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When it returned,
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it had been completely resprayed
and it came back
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with what's now called
a three-part sunburst,
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which is more or less black, red,
yellow.
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It's very distinctive
when you look at this bass now.
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RISING DISCORDANT STRINGS
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For me, the whole charm of
that instrument was gone.
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I don't know how Paul
feels about it.
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I think he was a bit pissed off,
too.
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# Woke up, fell out of bed
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00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:44,079
# Dragged a comb across my head
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# Found my way downstairs
and drank a cup
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# And looking up
I noticed I was late
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# Found my coat and grabbed my hat
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# Made the bus in seconds flat
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# Found my way upstairs and
had a smoke
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# And somebody spoke
and I went into a dream... #
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Coming from a look point
of view, I think the '63 is nicer.
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Maybe even better. Better pickups,
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better sound, louder. Whatever.
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He's very singular. He played
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that '63 bass then continuously
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and you never see him playing
the '61. You know,
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he didn't swap and change
between the two or anything.
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They went back to America in 1965.
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The '61 is being used
as a backup but not played.
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At Shea Stadium,
if you look really careful,
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you see Ringo up on the drum riser.
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Just down below Ringo on the back of
the amp, there's the bass.
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You have to look very eagle eyed,
but it's there.
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What happened to it
after that is a mystery.
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00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,640
It's just luck and a lot of sort of
384
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peering at grainy old
black-and-white pictures.
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00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:11,160
# Jojo left his home in Tucson,
Arizona... #
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00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,480
The only time you see it again,
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00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,160
you have to wait till a quick
shot of it
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by the coffee table
in the Let It Be sessions.
389
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,359
And then we don't see it any more.
390
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,640
It's just not around.
391
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,920
# Get back, get back
392
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,279
# Get back to where you once
393
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,480
# Get back. #
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00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,960
The event is so momentous
that historians may one day view it
395
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,839
as a landmark in the decline of the
British Empire.
396
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:49,640
The Beatles are breaking up.
397
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,720
And when they split up, I mean
all the rancour starts - you know,
398
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,400
the lawyers are in
and it was chaotic.
399
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,039
There were guitars here,
there were guitars there
400
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:22,440
and nobody was really taking care
of stuff.
401
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,839
This is the remarkable thing, it's
402
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:30,680
from the end of the Beatles,
nobody had ever seen this bass.
403
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,519
It just wasn't there any more.
404
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,839
I was never able
to establish any firm basis
405
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,160
as to when it disappeared.
406
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,240
I put my hand up absolutely and say,
407
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,480
I started this from nowhere,
not knowing how to do it.
408
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,519
So I was kind
of a bit handicapped, I suppose -
409
00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:54,559
as green as a cabbage as well.
410
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,200
RISING DISCORDANT STRINGS
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00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,440
It had got to the point
where it needed somebody
412
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,200
better than me
to start poking about.
413
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,240
FINAL SUSTAINED PIANO CHORD
414
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:12,119
It was June 2022 and I was watching
415
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,079
Paul McCartney
headline at Glastonbury.
416
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,039
But there was one moment in the show
where the stage just went black,
417
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:24,440
apart from one light
just picking out Paul's Hofner bass.
418
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,359
And it just caught the varnish
and the wood and everything.
419
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,440
It was almost like shining like gold
for this split second.
420
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,720
And I thought,
421
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,759
"Is that the original Hofner bass?"
422
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:41,960
And so I googled it and saw
that it wasn't - the original bass
423
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,720
that he'd got in 1961 was lost.
424
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,640
And I instantly started googling
425
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,559
to see and find out more about
that story.
426
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,960
But in terms of an investigation
and then thinking,
427
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,279
"I want to find this thing,"
I thought,
428
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,920
"Well, if no-one else is doing
that and that guitar
429
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,640
"is so important, we need to do it."
430
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,079
Who do you mean by we?
431
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,279
Me and my wife - we work together.
432
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,759
And we convinced ourselves
433
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,279
that we may not find the bass,
434
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,559
but we'd find stories
about the bass.
435
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,599
We'd find
what the bass meant to people.
436
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:23,599
You know,
that sort of Beatlemania fan thing.
437
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,880
By July 2023, I'd seen
that Hofner
438
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,279
over in Bavaria had ran a search
439
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,640
and I was really curious to find out
what they know.
440
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,599
So I wrote this very polite email
to introduce myself,
441
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,440
thinking he was German
and being conscious of the sort of
442
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,000
the English language
that I was using.
443
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,759
And then within 24 hours, I realised
that Nick was from London
444
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,920
and he was on the end of the phone
and we were talking like old mates.
445
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,119
And I thought, "Oh, my God,
these are exactly the people
446
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,559
"I've been looking for for a long
time."
447
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:01,039
We got together and I said,
448
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:03,599
"Scott, well, look, I've got a lot
of emails,"
449
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,000
and I passed him the lot over
for him to read
450
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,839
and get a sense of
what we were dealing with then.
451
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:12,799
All of these leads that came in,
you knew it was people
452
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,960
that had lived with this story
for a long, long time.
453
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,279
It's just that it was, it was wrong.
454
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:22,920
"A man claiming he had one of
Paul's guitars walked into
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00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,680
"a pawn shop in Las Vegas
called the Gold & Silver Pawn Shop
456
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,400
"to sell it. There's a television
programme called the Pawn Stars,
457
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,039
"where it was aired. Hope it helps."
458
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,720
"I definitely saw the bass
in an auction of music equipment
459
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,599
"in the mid '80s in London.
460
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:42,160
"It sold for ยฃ100 to a
music rental studio company."
461
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,799
"I've heard that the bass is in
Japan
462
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:45,920
"in the possession
of a Japanese banker."
463
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,440
This information was given me to
a guy that knows the Beatles
464
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,759
and the Beatles gear website well.
465
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,200
I had this vision of,
466
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,119
I used to say to people,
I know what's happened.
467
00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:02,720
Some German guy,
rich German guy, has nicked it,
468
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,960
and he's got a big castle
in the Bavarian mountains,
469
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,440
and he invites you up. And then,
after a few drinks, he says,
470
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,920
"Come, I show you something
special."
471
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,279
And there, over the mantelpiece,
472
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,000
is hanging my bass.
473
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:21,400
So it's a treasure hunt.
474
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,839
But also people love the Beatles
475
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:26,440
and love Paul McCartney
and wanted to help.
476
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240
THEY PLAY DAY TRIPPER
477
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:41,400
# She's a big teaser
478
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:45,640
# She took me half
the way there... #
479
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,160
I've always admired Paul McCartney
as a bass player.
480
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,160
He made the bass guitar cool.
481
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:56,519
Beatle fans know that the bass
disappeared
482
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:58,519
and no-one knows where it's gone.
483
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:03,519
So, um, it'd be amazing
if somebody ever did find it.
484
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,559
Because that's history,
isn't it? It's history.
485
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,519
# Day tripper
486
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:15,279
# Day tripper, yeah... #
487
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,119
Yeah. Ever since I can remember
I've been a Beatles fan.
488
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:20,880
There's only ever been one band for
me, I think.
489
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,880
First time I ever opened
the Sgt. Pepper's,
490
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160
and you opened it up,
and they've all got moustaches.
491
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,079
And I thought, "When I get older,
I want to have a moustache,"
492
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:31,920
you know?
493
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:31,920
HE LAUGHS
494
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,599
So I bought it second-hand.
Only paid ยฃ80 for it,
495
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,359
which is not much more
than Paul paid for his, probably.
496
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:39,240
Can you play anything on it?
497
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,839
A little bit of Day Tripper but...
498
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,400
APPROXIMATION OF BASSLINE
499
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,359
Only a little bit!
500
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:47,799
I need a plectrum.
501
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:47,799
HE LAUGHS
502
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:49,640
I've always wanted to play
the guitar.
503
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,720
I've tried for years
and I thought it might be easier
504
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880
to play bass
because there's only four strings.
505
00:30:57,359 --> 00:30:58,839
It's a Vox.
506
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160
The Vox. You have to have a Vox,
don't you,
507
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,440
if you have a Beatles bass?
508
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920
Oh, no. After all that, mate,
it's broken.
509
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,960
Cut!
510
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,599
NOTE RINGS OUT
511
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:26,640
It works.
512
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:32,640
HE PLAYS DAY TRIPPER
513
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:43,519
That's it.
514
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:47,480
Got there in the end. Yeah.
515
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,920
Practice makes perfect, doesn't it?
516
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,559
HE LAUGHS
517
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,480
# One-way ticket, yeah
518
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,240
# It took me so long to find out
519
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,880
# And I found out... #
520
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,440
RIFF BLARES
521
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,440
School drop-off time, innit?
522
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,519
I work for the Ambulance Service.
523
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,759
I've been doing it 23 years now.
524
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,039
So I'm on the
patient transport side.
525
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:17,599
So it's all non-emergency.
526
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,119
There's a guy, Steve, I work with,
he's a lovely guy.
527
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:23,640
Known him for two, three years,
528
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,400
so we always have a good laugh
when we're crewing up together.
529
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960
You know, we bounce off each other
quite nicely.
530
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:36,839
I'm always looking online
for guitars and things.
531
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,240
And I think I just - might have been
by accident -
532
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,519
went on to the Hofner website, saw
that Nick Wass was looking for it.
533
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,759
And that was like the,
yeah, the Holy Grail for me.
534
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,640
It was, you know,
like finding the Bible,
535
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,400
trying to find Paul
McCartney's bass.
536
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,319
You know,
if you're a fan, that's like, wow.
537
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Well, I was with Steve one day
and I said,
538
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,240
"Well, I've still got a bass
that's a bit like Paul McCartney's."
539
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,519
And he just sort of said,
"I think I know where that is."
540
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,119
You know.
541
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:13,200
And I said, "You're joking,
aren't you?" You know.
542
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,279
So I just said to him, I said,
543
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:20,960
"I've got an idea
where that might be, you know."
544
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:24,640
And he sort of looked at me
and I went...
545
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,160
.."Right, I'm going
to tell you something.
546
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,559
"I don't know if it's
right or proper,
547
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:31,920
"but I'm going to tell you
something.
548
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,240
"It's only a story I've heard."
549
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:36,240
He said, "Where?" So I said,
"Well, it don't matter where,"
550
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,400
I said, "but...I think it
was nicked from a house in London."
551
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,200
So I said, "Steve,
can I tell the story?
552
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,119
"Can I tell Nick what
little bit you've told me?"
553
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,920
I said, "Don't put my name on it."
554
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
"No," he said, "what we'll do,"
he said, "I'll email it in and say
555
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160
"it's a story that someone told us
556
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,559
"on the back of the ambulance -
a patient."
557
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:06,160
I mean, the emails were quite mixed,
if I'm honest.
558
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,079
One of them in particular was from
559
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,639
these two guys
who are a crew on an ambulance,
560
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:15,320
and they told me this bullshit story
about having
561
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,800
a client in the back of the
ambulance, as they described it...
562
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,039
A patient?
563
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,280
Yeah, but I think they call it
client now, don't they?
564
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,199
Who'd given them some story about
565
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,360
the fact
that the bass had been stolen.
566
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480
And that it had been given to a guy
567
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,159
in a pub up at Ladbroke Grove,
London.
568
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,800
And I thought,
"Yeah, a bit more bullshit."
569
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,719
But I wrote a polite reply,
570
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,320
"That sounds like a really good
book -
571
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,320
"Tales from the
Back of an Ambulance."
572
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,119
And I left it there.
573
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,480
I had a call from the news editor
574
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,480
at the Telegraph looking for
stories, and I said,
575
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,920
"Well, look, we're looking
for Paul McCartney's lost bass."
576
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,119
And the minute I said it,
577
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:14,199
Ben commissioned the story
on the spot.
578
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:18,760
The story in The Telegraph went live
on the 2nd of September.
579
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,039
It was a Saturday. It was around
about 4 o'clock online.
580
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,639
Within minutes,
the BBC were in touch.
581
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:29,639
They said they wanted us
on BBC Breakfast.
582
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,239
Well, delighted to say
We're joined now by Nick Wass,
583
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,880
who is a Hofner
and lost bass expert,
584
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,360
and he's provided Paul McCartney
585
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,159
with many of his iconic
instruments...
586
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:45,719
Lots of interviews and radio station
interviews...day and night.
587
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,000
I realised why being famous
must be absolutely awful.
588
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,480
The difference with the lost bass is
589
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,719
Paul McCartney had it refinished
in 1964,
590
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,719
and the two pickups are now mounted
in a big black piece of wood here.
591
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,840
But I think you've shown your
audience
592
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,760
some pictures of what we're after.
593
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,079
Yeah. This is it. Yeah.
594
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:09,840
And the thing is,
595
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,239
it is distinctive
and it should be identifiable.
596
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,199
CONTINUES FAINTLY: Yeah. But, of
course, it may have been destroyed
597
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:18,039
somewhere along the line.
It may have just been chucked away.
598
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,599
It could have been taken
by someone at the Apple offices.
599
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:22,719
We just don't know, do we?
600
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,400
No, we don't know.
This is the problem.
601
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,760
Um, it was put away,
602
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,599
presumably, after they
finished filming Get Back.
603
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,960
And after that,
nobody has any clear idea of
604
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,280
what happened.
605
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Where it was actually stored...
606
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:41,239
It might be there.
We're just not clear about...
607
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,400
Well, I really wish you luck
on your search,
608
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,039
because I think it's a wonderful
story, Nick.
609
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:48,880
In the first 24 hours,
610
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,679
we must have had more than a dozen
major newspapers
611
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:54,920
and radio and TV stations on -
612
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,760
NBC in America and The New York
Times and Le Monde.
613
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,880
Le Monde... Der Spiegel in Germany.
614
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,400
Yeah. And it just went on and on.
615
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,760
And then TV channels
that we'd never,
616
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,320
ever heard of were getting in touch
617
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,559
from Brazil and other places. Yeah!
618
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:10,599
TV CHATTER PLAYS
619
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,079
We thought that we'd almost plugged
into
620
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,719
that spirit of the Beatles. Yeah.
621
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:23,719
You know, we thought
that we had connected with
622
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,000
that positive vibe around
623
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,480
peace and love and the band
624
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,440
and what the music meant to people.
625
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:36,000
We got 600 emails
in the first 48 hours,
626
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,039
and the emails were just
landing and landing and landing.
627
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,239
That's when the journalists
in us took over
628
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,119
and we started to pick out
what could be really important.
629
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,800
# I heard the news today
Oh, boy
630
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:07,880
# About a lucky man
who made the grade... #
631
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,559
When we read Ian Horne's email,
632
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:15,039
we knew instantly
that we had to speak to Ian.
633
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,000
# I just had to laugh... #
634
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,960
And Ian's lead was the only lead
that said,
635
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,400
"I know Paul McCartney." Yeah.
636
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,199
And it was the only lead
637
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:27,480
that said, "I worked for
Paul McCartney."
638
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,559
After he broke up with the Beatles,
we met up.
639
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:49,199
I think Paul
was definitely getting back
640
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:51,920
in the saddle, I'd call it,
which was a big step
641
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,320
because I think he hid away
for a while.
642
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,639
Yeah, you know,
it was very depressing,
643
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:03,360
you know, because you were
breaking from your lifelong friends.
644
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,760
You weren't going to see them again.
645
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,360
It was depressing.
646
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,679
And not knowing whether I was going
to continue in music.
647
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,679
Suddenly I wasn't having
a good time. It wasn't working.
648
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,119
It was Linda who sort of said,
649
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,599
you know, you just, you've got to
get it together
650
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,199
and we've got to do something.
651
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:28,000
So we ended up, um, forming Wings.
652
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:36,239
I knew that, if I kept playing
Beatles songs,
653
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,199
which I knew people wanted,
654
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:41,360
then I would become
a Beatles tribute band.
655
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,519
I thought,
maybe that's not the greatest look.
656
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:51,559
He was experimenting with things
he hadn't done before.
657
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,719
He had a Yamaha bass, a Fender bass.
658
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,519
LAUGHS: So he went through all the
basses people are playing, you know.
659
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,599
# And all the people
660
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,719
# Say that people must be free
661
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:06,880
# But meanwhile
662
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:09,360
# Back in Ireland
663
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,239
# There's a man who
looks like me... #
664
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,559
We went on the road.
Boy, did we go on the road.
665
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,159
Tell us about it.
I mean, well, cos the thing is,
666
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,679
you know, normally, you go on the
road, at least you book hotels.
667
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,639
You know, anyone books hotels.
668
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:31,119
But we decided to really just
busk the whole thing.
669
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,000
So we had a tranny and we just
headed off up the motorway.
670
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,440
We had the kids, a couple of dogs,
a whole group.
671
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,360
All our instruments. Oh, there was,
there was a U-Haul
672
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,840
following behind
with the roadies.
673
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,320
And we literally turned up
at universities and stuff.
674
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,840
We turned
up at Nottingham University,
675
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,360
was the first one, and we said...
676
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,920
In fact,
WE didn't - I didn't say anything.
677
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,519
I stayed in the van.
678
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,519
THEY LAUGH
679
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:56,960
One of the lads - Ian Horne,
actually- went in.
680
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,239
"I've got Paul McCartney
out in the van,
681
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,239
"do you want him on
lunchtime tomorrow?"
682
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,760
"Really?" They come out
in the van to sort of check.
683
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,719
"Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll have him."
684
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,840
# Give Ireland back to the Irish
685
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,880
# Make Ireland Irish today... #
686
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
All right, Henry.
687
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
GUITAR SOLO
688
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,960
He was loving it,
being back in the saddle.
689
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:26,320
And he never played the Hofner,
as far as I know. It was around.
690
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,360
Still lugging it around from place
to place?
691
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,320
Yeah, but maybe that's more me than
him.
692
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,000
Me thinking, "If he asks for it,
I've got it."
693
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,159
We'd just finished the university
tour
694
00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:59,880
and we were recording
an album called Red Rose Speedway.
695
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:08,719
Well, on this particular day,
696
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,079
we'd been in the studio.
We didn't leave till quite late,
697
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,519
so we drove back to Trevor's. Yeah,
698
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:16,639
Trevor's my brother-in-law.
699
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,639
He was my assistant.
700
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:20,519
So we had a truck full of gear,
701
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:24,880
which we had the Hofner bass,
acoustic guitars, some amplifiers.
702
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,280
I couldn't park at Trevor's
because opposite
703
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,039
Trevor's house was a school,
704
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:37,880
so it was restricted parking.
705
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,519
Just went up the road a bit,
turned right
706
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,559
and there's a T-junction there,
707
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,440
which is Cambridge Gardens.
708
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,159
There's a parking place
right on the edge, so I thought,
709
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:53,199
I'll put it there, with the back
of the truck visible to everybody.
710
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,760
Basically, I had a big
heavy-duty padlock on the back.
711
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,960
It was a roller shutter on the back.
712
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,800
So I felt fairly secure.
713
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:08,599
I walked back to Trevor's
and we went to sleep.
714
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:13,519
And then, of course, in the morning,
the nightmare began.
715
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,039
You could see that the padlock
was off and I went,
716
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:20,400
"Oh, God."
717
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:23,440
You know, a cold sweat.
718
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,440
So I throw the roller door up...
719
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:29,239
..and immediately notice there's
stuff missing, you know?
720
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,920
Uh,
which was a couple of amplifiers,
721
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,239
two guitars,
including the Hofner bass.
722
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:41,079
I was beside myself with worry
723
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:43,079
and anger and pain.
724
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,679
Right opposite
where the truck is,
725
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:51,239
so the back of the truck's there
and it's 100 Cambridge Gardens.
726
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,119
At the time, it seemed kosher.
727
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,440
But all these hippies and people
that lived around
728
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,119
Lancaster Road and Cambridge Gardens
729
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,039
in these squat houses.
730
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:02,679
There were a lot of musicians.
731
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,159
You know,
obviously, thieves amongst them.
732
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:11,320
And...Trevor thought it was this guy
Dik Mik, who was a bit iffy,
733
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,239
you know. Why? I don't know why,
really.
734
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,199
He flagged him up.
I didn't flag anyone.
735
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:19,960
I did feel it was one of that mob,
736
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,880
because they all knew
we worked for Paul.
737
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,280
And so, you know, we sort of
got tooled up in case it got nasty.
738
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,559
So, wait, hang on -
in case what got nasty?
739
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:33,400
I decided we'd go and check this guy
out
740
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,840
so we could end this thing there.
741
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,079
So we went in there,
quite threatening behaviour.
742
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,239
Dik Mik was still in bed
but he was shitting himself.
743
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,800
We looked round - no stuff.
744
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,960
And, eventually, you know, we had
to go to Paul and tell him the news.
745
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,159
Knock on the door
and he comes to the door.
746
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,039
"The truck's been broken into
and the Hofner bass has been stolen
747
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:01,360
"and a few other things."
748
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:05,360
And I sort of took a deep breath
and stood there thinking,
749
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,840
"Well,
what's going to come back at me?"
750
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,119
And he was absolutely amazing.
He just turned round and he said,
751
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:11,599
"It's all right, Ian,
I've got another one."
752
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:16,440
I had a feeling in me -
did he think I've done it?
753
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:19,719
So we rang the police.
754
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:23,800
And the police didn't seem
that bothered.
755
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:30,239
I think all the papers
used to have contacts in the police.
756
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,239
Their friends on the news desk,
757
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,199
maybe they'd get a small payment -
that's the way it used to work.
758
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:36,639
So in this particular case,
759
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:38,800
the Standard had got a tip-off
that this had happened,
760
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,480
but they didn't know very much
about it, or even if it was true.
761
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,960
Obviously,
the best person to confirm
762
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,679
whether a guitar
of his had been stolen would be him.
763
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,960
I set off for his house and I didn't
764
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,840
feel very comfortable
about doing this.
765
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,559
I didn't think that this was the
kind of journalism
766
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:01,039
I really wanted to do.
767
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:03,000
And I thought that, if he did come
out,
768
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,239
he's going to tell us to fuck off.
769
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,280
HE LAUGHS
770
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Probably an hour passed,
771
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,960
standing around in the road,
chatting to the photographer.
772
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,599
Suddenly,
without any warning,
773
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:19,960
a wooden gate swung open
and there was Paul.
774
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,400
I can clearly remember his first
words were,
775
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,119
"What do you want, boys?"
776
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,519
And the first
question I think I asked him,
777
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:33,679
first of all to confirm
that the guitar had been taken,
778
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:36,280
and he said it had
so that confirmed the story.
779
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,000
And he confirmed
that it was the original one
780
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,280
that he'd bought back in Hamburg,
781
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,719
which I knew about
because I followed the Beatles.
782
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,280
So then I suddenly realised
783
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,960
that I was actually
in the middle of a very big story.
784
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,199
The most famous
or iconic instrument
785
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:58,199
of that era had been stolen and I
was talking to the guy who owned it.
786
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:03,079
And he was quite happy,
happy to chat about it.
787
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:05,880
He posed for pictures
for the photographer,
788
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,840
and I think we probably spoke
for maybe four or five minutes.
789
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,760
Um, and at that stage,
790
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,599
our presence has started
to get noticed.
791
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,119
A small crowd of people had started
to gather,
792
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,119
so he politely thanked us,
793
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:21,159
and closed the gate
and went back into the house.
794
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:29,840
This was the first time I had met
a Beatle.
795
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,199
The Beatles' music has enriched my
life enormously,
796
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:36,480
and I just kind of felt - maybe this
sounds a little bit sycophantic -
797
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,800
but I just really felt
that I would like to have said,
798
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,760
"Can I just thank you
for everything you've done?
799
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,840
"I think your music's great.
800
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,039
"It's something which will stay
with me forever."
801
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:48,480
Just something like that,
just a thank you.
802
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,840
I think that would have been nice,
803
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239
but I was in a rush
and I never got to do that.
804
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:04,920
Paul had given a quote
to a newspaper at the time.
805
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,480
And so we thought
that you would remember
806
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,840
that or you'd remember,
you know, it was his favourite bass,
807
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,559
it had been stolen.
808
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:16,360
Nick was scratching his head
as to why he hadn't been told,
809
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,440
that that information
hadn't been passed on.
810
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,400
I have to presume
that he'd forgotten.
811
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880
I mean, this is a guy who's
actually done quite a lot, isn't it?
812
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,159
You know, he's been a few places
and around,
813
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:32,800
so it may well have
just not registered with him.
814
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,880
I don't know.
815
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,119
There has been a report recently
that you have said
816
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,880
that you might get back with
the Beatles. Is this true?
817
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,159
No, I wouldn't think so.
818
00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:42,679
I don't think any of us fancy it,
to tell you the truth.
819
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:52,480
Perhaps the bass wasn't
as important to Paul in 1972
820
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,280
as it was to him when he asked Nick
to start the search.
821
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,159
I think, in a way, the Beatles have
done it, you know?
822
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:03,400
The Beatles started
from nothing and got everywhere.
823
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,199
The thing is, you know, I don't know
whether anyone really would even
824
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,639
like to even try
and push it any further, you know?
825
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:15,559
The Hofner was a Beatle bass,
and he wasn't a Beatle any more.
826
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,159
And I don't blame him, you know.
827
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,440
Those guys had had a hell of a life.
828
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,480
For all their fame and their money,
they'd had a hell of a time.
829
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,239
I think the Hofner was part of
that time,
830
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,280
and they just wanted it gone.
831
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:47,239
Ian thought that the bass
had gone into 100 Cambridge Gardens.
832
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,320
So we were interested to find out
more about this character,
833
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Dik Mik, that at that time
834
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,519
certainly Trevor suspected
and Ian did as well.
835
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:02,639
Dik Mik was a roadie
and he'd been a weed dealer.
836
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:06,400
And we were able to find that,
in the basement flat
837
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,800
of 100 Cambridge Gardens,
838
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,039
a band called Hawkwind
839
00:50:11,039 --> 00:50:14,440
and a lot of members of the band
called the Pink Fairies lived.
840
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,159
That's a good girl.
841
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,880
Trevor and Ian, they were both
very good friends of mine.
842
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,119
It was the next day
843
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:41,639
when I saw Trevor and he just
said, "Fuck."
844
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:44,719
He says, "Paul's bass got stolen
out of the van last night,
845
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,320
"outside Cambridge Gardens."
846
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,679
I said, "What?!"
847
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:52,320
They said, keep your ears peeled
and, you know,
848
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,760
see if there's any word coming out
or any word on the street or...
849
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,199
Dik Mik - who was Dik Mik?
850
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:03,719
Dik Mik was one of the people
in the original Hawkwind.
851
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:06,960
Dik Mik was, unfortunately,
852
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,800
most of the time
out of his head on Mandrax.
853
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,239
But he could have
been outside blagging away
854
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,519
or leaning against the van
or whatever,
855
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:16,000
having a smoke, you know,
856
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,400
and somebody could have said,
"Oh, whose van's that?"
857
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,039
"Oh, it's Wings' van,"
you know.
858
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,320
I heard reports
of Hawkwind's gear going missing,
859
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,280
but that's only the tip of
the iceberg.
860
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,280
The whole dynamic around
861
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Hawkwind is,
you know, somewhat troubled.
862
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,480
In May 1972,
863
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,960
Hawkwind had had ยฃ10,000 worth
of kit stolen from THEIR van.
864
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:54,679
In old newspaper searches,
we found out that they'd been banned
865
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:58,079
from the BBC because they'd stolen
a microphone.
866
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:01,880
I think, didn't they write a song
that was sort of anti-the Beatles?
867
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,360
They were anti-the Beatles.
868
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,280
They were anti-the Beatles,
so they felt quite anarchic.
869
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,280
It felt like Hawkwind had a motive,
870
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,800
and it also felt like they
had the personality to go and do it.
871
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,119
Ladbroke Grove was...pretty funky.
872
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,519
You know, there was the hippies,
873
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:25,599
there was the, all the people
who had the fruit and veg stalls.
874
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,440
But a lot of thugs
showed up on Portobello Road,
875
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,519
and that's when things started
to go downhill. You know,
876
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:38,960
rougher
and people started injecting.
877
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,159
People started getting stuff stolen.
878
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,199
Paul Rudolph described a place with
a lot of poverty,
879
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,800
a lot of people really clinging on,
880
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,320
that it wasn't a big deal
881
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,119
for something to be stolen out of
the back of a van.
882
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:01,679
It happened all the time.
883
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,800
The bass did feel like that's the
last place on earth
884
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,199
it should really be.
885
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,159
Which is a long, long way
886
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:18,880
from these dark, poorly lit streets.
887
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,800
You know, lots of political banners
written on bedsheets
888
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,960
sort of hanging out the windows,
889
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,239
anarchists and theft.
890
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,960
To picture the bass
in the middle of all of
891
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,199
that makes you feel like
this little thing is out there...
892
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:44,360
It does feel very vulnerable. ..that
desperately needs saving. Yeah.
893
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,079
But then a penny dropped.
894
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:58,880
I thought, "Ah." I got an email
about six months
895
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,960
before this from a guy talking about
the bass being stolen
896
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,599
in Ladbroke Grove.
897
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:09,320
So I naturally
went and dug back through
898
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,840
the pile of emails and found it.
899
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,519
It was from a guy called
Andrew - Andrew Dickinson.
900
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,280
And so, yeah, I contacted him and
said,
901
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,400
look, you know,
something's occurred.
902
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,679
We didn't tell them what, but that
further information's arisen,
903
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:27,280
can they tell me more?
904
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,239
I didn't think we were going
to hear any more, to be honest.
905
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,760
You know,
it was a very small story to tell.
906
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:41,760
Whereabouts are you struggling?
Oh, just my neck.
907
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,920
It's like really digging in hard,
you know?
908
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,239
Yeah. I think he was using his elbow
or something.
909
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,559
I think they do a lot
with their elbow. Yeah.
910
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:52,639
Dig in, you know.
Did you get a happy ending?
911
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:56,360
No. No.
No, I didn't fancy it.
912
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,119
VOICE-OVER: I got back to
Steven's and said,
913
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,239
"This Nick, he's emailed me again."
914
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,639
Next time. Yeah.
915
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:05,119
I think, uh, you know,
it's your story to tell,
916
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:08,280
do you want to, um, get involved
and say a little bit more?
917
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,199
Oh, God. Straight away, I thought,
918
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:14,599
I've opened my mouth here and he's
not going to let this go now.
919
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:20,440
What I didn't want to come out
was our first house
920
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,719
was just off of Ladbroke Grove,
921
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,199
not far from Grenfell Tower.
922
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,760
It was quite a carousel
of people coming and going, really.
923
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,159
I think I was made aware of
924
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:36,400
who you could talk to
and where you could go.
925
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,360
You had boundaries
926
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,760
of where you could go
and where you couldn't go.
927
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,000
So there was only so many people
928
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,480
you were likely to get to meet
or likely to get to see.
929
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,679
Dad had a couple of jobs.
930
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,760
He played a lot of football
931
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,400
Saturdays and Sunday mornings.
932
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,360
Dad's mates, they would always tell
me how good my dad was
933
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,480
as a semi-pro footballer.
Because he was good, Dad.
934
00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:05,159
And there was a pub, um,
935
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:07,199
it's called The Admiral Blake,
936
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,840
And that's
where they all used to congregate,
937
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,920
my dad and his mates.
938
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,960
So occasionally
I'd get taken across.
939
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,280
It was a good place,
it was a good source of information.
940
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,480
It was a good source of recreation.
941
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,840
It was just a good way
of socialising
942
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,719
and getting around and getting to
know what was going on
943
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,960
and who was doing what
around the area and stuff like that.
944
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,639
And there was racketeering going on
and people going around.
945
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:32,119
And if you want a garden fork
or a spade,
946
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:33,679
there's a couple in the back of
947
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:36,119
that lorry that no-one knows
are there, if you want that.
948
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,880
If you couldn't get rid of it
or you hadn't sold it,
949
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,000
take it out at the pub -
someone will have it off you.
950
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,480
Someone, you know,
will buy it off you.
951
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,519
Because obviously I wasn't
always crewed up with him, so I was
952
00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:49,760
getting little bits of information
953
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,480
here, there and everywhere,
you know.
954
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,039
So it got to a stage where,
when I was looking at the rota,
955
00:56:58,039 --> 00:56:59,760
I was like, "Oh, no,
I'm working with him again.
956
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,079
"I know what's coming here."
957
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,440
HE PLAYS SNIPPET OF DAY TRIPPER
958
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:07,400
I'm just going to have to try and
muddy the waters a little bit here,
959
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,599
because he's not going to let it go.
960
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,039
He'd heard that it had been stolen
961
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:16,639
from the road that they were in.
962
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,480
They sold it to the barman
in the pub,
963
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,199
and then they'd sort of dumped it
in the canal.
964
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:25,079
Just because they knew it was
Paul McCartney's
965
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:26,719
and they'd never be able to
get rid of it.
966
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:30,639
We got an A to Z out the van.
967
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,119
I said, "That was the pub.
968
00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:34,119
"So there's the canal there,
so I'm assuming there."
969
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:35,679
So he said, "So whereabouts do you
think?"
970
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:37,719
I said, "Andy, I don't know.
I wasn't there,
971
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:39,960
"so I have no idea."
I said, "But that's the canal."
972
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,280
I said, "If I lived in that pub,
973
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,840
"I would have walked over that
bridge and just lobbed it there."
974
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,239
And then he said, "Do you reckon
we could get a boat
975
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:47,519
"and go and find it?"
I said, "No.
976
00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:48,920
"No," I said, "I don't think we can
977
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,360
"go and get a boat and go and find
it."
978
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,280
I think Andrew...replied to me,
saying
979
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,639
he would ask his partner. And it's
then I get an email from Steve.
980
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:02,199
NAOMI: Now we had a strong lead -
981
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:05,800
it's been stolen
and it went on to this pub.
982
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,320
The email had said that it
had been thrown into the canal.
983
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,599
SCOTT: That was quite a low point,
really. It was almost like,
984
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,320
you know, the body of the guitar
985
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,440
had been dumped into
the water there.
986
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,880
And I remember feeling
987
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,559
that the result isn't
what we wanted,
988
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:28,360
but we might actually have a story
now,
989
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,599
that we know
where Paul McCartney's bass is.
990
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:33,280
But sadly, it's at the bottom of
that canal
991
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,159
and probably gone forever.
992
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,599
Three, four.
993
00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:51,920
# My... #
994
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,559
My manager at the time got a call
from Paul's manager at the time.
995
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:01,480
"Richard wants you to go
down to work with Paul."
996
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,079
I said, "You're kidding."
It was like, you know,
997
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:06,880
I was 33, I think,
when we started doing that.
998
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,559
He wasn't calling
up an eight-year-old kid
999
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:09,880
who was in the fan club.
1000
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,199
One, two, three, four.
1001
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,480
# My brave face... #
1002
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,159
We got off to a flying start,
you know.
1003
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,960
# Unaccustomed as I am... #
1004
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,679
And we just recorded
with two guitars and vocals
1005
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:29,800
and it was good fun.
1006
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,360
# ..didn't hit back
1007
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,679
# I've been doin' the rounds... #
1008
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:37,519
There's a version
of me singing My Brave Face
1009
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,079
where I'm singing lead
1010
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:40,719
so Paul could fly around
on the bass.
1011
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:42,920
And he's doing all these moves
that I...
1012
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,519
But I never felt like I could
hear the voice.
1013
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:48,119
LAUGHS: # Tell anybody
when I'm gonna get back... #
1014
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:50,599
Because this bass was just too...
1015
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:52,440
It was too big sounding.
1016
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,039
At some point I asked the
whereabouts of the Hofner and...
1017
00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:00,599
..it suddenly appeared.
1018
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:04,280
Elvis Costello said,
"What about your Hofner bass?
1019
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,760
"You know, your violin bass,
the Beatle bass?"
1020
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,079
And I was saying,
"Well, I can try it,
1021
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:12,000
"but it's not very good at
keeping in tune,"
1022
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,760
which it isn't because they're
not very expensive instruments.
1023
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,199
So I had given up
recording with it, really,
1024
01:00:18,199 --> 01:00:21,079
in favour of more
sort of modern instruments.
1025
01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:23,679
But he said, "Oh, but I love
the sound of it," you know, "Go on."
1026
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:29,920
But it wasn't the lost
bass, the '61 bass.
1027
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,039
This was his '63.
1028
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:35,519
But I think at that point, he,
1029
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:37,119
things changed for Paul.
1030
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,360
# Ever since you left
I have been trying to compose
1031
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,440
# A "Baby, will you please come
home?" note meant for you... #
1032
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,880
And it recorded great.
1033
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,559
It's got a lovely tone for a little,
little bass.
1034
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,559
# My brave, my brave,
my brave face... #
1035
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,800
Honestly, I felt vindicated
when I heard the part.
1036
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,159
You could hear his personality
really clearly,
1037
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:03,320
and it had the tone.
It had the tone.
1038
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,719
It was like...like somebody singing,
you know?
1039
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:08,480
# Face. #
1040
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,800
CHEERING
1041
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Elvis Costello suggested
bringing out the '63.
1042
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,000
Maybe that kind of like,
he might have thought,
1043
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,800
"Yeah, what happened?"
Maybe that's when the whole
1044
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
conversation sort of started up
again about -
1045
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,000
where is the original one?
1046
01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:28,880
By the time we got to '89, '90,
when we were about to embark on big,
1047
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,119
massive world tour and Paul said,
1048
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:33,000
"What are people going to want
to...?"
1049
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,599
You know, "They're going to come to
a gig, what are they going to want?"
1050
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:38,679
They're going to want Beatles.
1051
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:41,960
They're going to want some big,
big moments.
1052
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,480
# Close your eyes and I'll kiss
you... #
1053
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,880
CHEERING
1054
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,320
# Tomorrow, I'll miss you
1055
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,360
# Remember, I'll always be true
1056
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:58,159
# And then while I'm away
1057
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:01,800
# I'll write home every day
1058
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,599
# And I'll send
all my loving to you... #
1059
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,039
SONG CONTINUES FAINTLY
1060
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:17,519
Paul's quite nostalgic about things.
1061
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,159
They're important to him.
1062
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:23,199
Not maybe in a collectable way,
1063
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:24,519
but just emotionally
1064
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:26,880
and they're part of his history
and they're part of his life.
1065
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,360
And he... And he...
1066
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,239
Yeah, he probably missed the bass.
1067
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:32,519
He just wanted it back.
1068
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,599
Yeah, well, I think anything
that's nicked, you want back.
1069
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:42,400
You know, especially
if it has a sentimental attachment.
1070
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,880
Plus, I was annoyed
that someone nicked it.
1071
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,840
You know, it's just like, "How dare
you? Give me it back," you know?
1072
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:53,039
SCOTT: Very often in investigations,
there's a breakthrough moment
1073
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:56,639
where you're effectively
given something on a plate.
1074
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:02,000
NAOMI: Who's Steven? Who's this
person?
1075
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,679
And how does he know so much
about the theft of this guitar?
1076
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:09,519
I made an inquiry about
1077
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:12,519
the residents of
100 Cambridge Gardens.
1078
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:14,320
So who was on
the electoral register?
1079
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,000
And I just remember reading through
1080
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,360
the list of names,
1081
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,840
and we got to the name Glenister.
1082
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:26,199
Oh, my God. His parents are on
1083
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:29,199
the electoral register
in 100 Cambridge Gardens.
1084
01:03:44,239 --> 01:03:47,320
We was on holiday in Spain
and my phone went.
1085
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:50,880
"Is that Steve Glenister?" "Yeah."
1086
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,920
"It's Nick Wass from The Lost Bass."
1087
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:56,639
I said, "Oh, right, hi.
You all right?"
1088
01:03:56,639 --> 01:03:57,679
He said, "Um...
1089
01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:02,639
"..I think you know a little
bit more than you're letting on.
1090
01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:05,679
"Are you prepared
to say anything?"
1091
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:08,199
I said, "Not really. I don't know
anything other than I told you."
1092
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:09,480
And he said, "Well, I think you do."
1093
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,199
I knew I had to ask him the question
and say to him,
1094
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:17,960
"Look, Steve, just tell me
what happened.
1095
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,719
"You know, I know you know,
1096
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:22,199
"because you wouldn't have sent me
all this stuff.
1097
01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:25,480
"And I know you were in the house.
Just tell me what happened."
1098
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,400
My dad used to come and watch
me play football a lot.
1099
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,760
He was never complimentary
about the way I played.
1100
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,000
There was always something
I could have done better and that.
1101
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,199
So we was coming home one day
1102
01:04:37,199 --> 01:04:39,719
and I had the radio on in the car.
1103
01:04:41,679 --> 01:04:43,360
How old do you think you are
at this point?
1104
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,719
I may have just had the kids,
so mid 20s, something like that.
1105
01:04:48,719 --> 01:04:50,880
This song come on. I just said,
1106
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,360
"Oh, it's The Beatles.
I like these."
1107
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,000
And it was...
I done it more.
1108
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,800
The louder the radio was,
the less he could talk.
1109
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,039
And I was getting a bit
fed up with it all now,
1110
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:02,559
so I just sort of turned the radio
up.
1111
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,159
And he said, um...
1112
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:13,239
He said, "Did I ever tell you
about that guitar, then?"
1113
01:05:17,239 --> 01:05:18,320
I said, "What guitar?"
1114
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,840
He said, "The one -
Paul McCartney's guitar."
1115
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:25,039
So I said, "No,"
and he started to laugh.
1116
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:26,960
So I turned the radio down.
1117
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,400
He said, "Um..."
1118
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,880
Well, he said, "I nicked it."
1119
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:33,719
I said, "What do you mean,
you nicked it?"
1120
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:39,039
He said, "I didn't even know it was
the guitar."
1121
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:40,760
He said, "I just opened this van
up."
1122
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:43,760
He said, "When I realised what it
was, I thought, "Oh...
1123
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:46,639
"..you know, it's Paul McCartney's.
1124
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:48,920
"It's the obvious shape -
that proper-shaped guitar."
1125
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,280
I can just imagine, bless him,
his face. "Ugh."
1126
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,320
You've nicked the Mona Lisa,
what are you going to do with that?
1127
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,039
You can't sell it. You know,
it's just one of those things.
1128
01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:02,920
It was that family
up on the top floor.
1129
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,880
They were ignored
by Ian and Trevor on the day.
1130
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,400
Nobody went with a wrench
to those people up on the top floor.
1131
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,079
To be honest, they were ignored by
us... And they were ignored by us.
1132
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:14,760
..in the early days of the search.
And that is perhaps one of the most
1133
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,800
extraordinary things about
this whole story.
1134
01:06:19,239 --> 01:06:24,039
It got given to a pub landlord
who run The Admiral Blake.
1135
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:28,159
The landlord at the time was a chap
called Ron.
1136
01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:31,480
He said, "I just said to Ron,
here you are, I'll tell you what,
1137
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,320
"give this to one of your kids,
they can learn it."
1138
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,079
He said,
"Just give us a couple of drinks."
1139
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:38,320
I said, "Well..."
He said, "Well," he said...
1140
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,320
He said, "He bought me a day's worth
of light ales."
1141
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,519
So this guitar ended up with
Ron and I think one of his kids,
1142
01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:46,800
Graham, ended up with it.
1143
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,360
It had gone to a pub landlord called
Ron Guest.
1144
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,880
We knew that it had
1145
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,440
then been passed on
to his son, Graham,
1146
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,320
who unfortunately had died
in this terrible car crash.
1147
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,000
But then we decided to look at
the other children,
1148
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,239
and I was able to contact
Elaine Guest,
1149
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:13,280
who was the youngest
of the children, and talked to her.
1150
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,559
That's me on the roof with the two
dogs.
1151
01:07:19,559 --> 01:07:21,760
Because the roof was our garden.
1152
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,920
I mean, I grew
up with Graham always having a bass.
1153
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,679
I can't remember a time
when it suddenly appeared.
1154
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:30,360
It was always Graham's bass.
1155
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,960
He was just always playing.
1156
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,320
You know, and he didn't mind
1157
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,920
if I plonked myself
down and listened to it.
1158
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,920
Where was it kept here?
1159
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,400
Um, in the little bedroom.
1160
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,679
You don't think he would have known
it was Paul McCartney's?
1161
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:52,239
Definitely not!
Definitely not!
1162
01:07:52,239 --> 01:07:54,119
I mean, when you think about it,
1163
01:07:54,119 --> 01:07:56,960
who in their right minds would
buy a bass knowing it was
1164
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,119
Paul McCartney's and then give it
to your son, who's going to take it
1165
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:02,159
God knows where and somebody's going
to say,
1166
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:04,599
"That's Paul McCartney's bass!"
1167
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:05,639
But, no.
1168
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Do you wish you'd played it a bit
now?
1169
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,480
Now I know whose it is, yes!
1170
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,720
Were you into The Beatles?
No. No, no.
1171
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,920
I always thought
The Beatles were like a girlie band.
1172
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,920
After Graham had died,
1173
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,840
her brother Haydn took the bass
from their family home.
1174
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,000
Haydn got divorced in the 1990s
1175
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,840
and then married someone else,
and then ended up in Hastings.
1176
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:44,720
He left his wife and kids
and then got involved with somebody,
1177
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,359
and that's hence why there's been
no communication at all.
1178
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,960
From what I can gather,
1179
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,159
the bass was just in the loft
in the house at Hastings.
1180
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,319
We were in Los Angeles.
We were rehearsing, I think.
1181
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,119
# Oh, yeah... #
1182
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:15,640
And, um,
I got a phone call from a colleague,
1183
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,680
said, "Somebody's turned
up at the farm
1184
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,319
"with a bass
and they think it might
1185
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:23,920
"be Paul's. This lost bass
that everybody's talking about
1186
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,239
"all of a sudden." Cos it
had been in the press by then.
1187
01:09:27,239 --> 01:09:32,800
And she'd left some photos
and then took the bass back.
1188
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,760
So I was emailed the photos
1189
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,159
and I just had a feeling.
I could feel it.
1190
01:09:37,159 --> 01:09:41,359
I just thought, "Ooh, this is,
this is really interesting."
1191
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,520
And the next day I was with Paul
in the morning
1192
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,239
and I had my laptop
and we were about to leave
1193
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:48,319
for the studio and I said,
1194
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:49,960
"I've got something I need to talk
to you about."
1195
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,279
And he thought it was something bad.
1196
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:53,720
He said, "Oh, is it bad?"
I said, "No, it's NOT bad."
1197
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,000
And I opened up my laptop
and I was shaking.
1198
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,760
I was literally shaking.
1199
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,319
The minute I saw the case,
it was, you know...
1200
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:02,079
HE GASPS
1201
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:02,079
Whoa!
1202
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:05,560
"I've got it back.
Oh, my God."
1203
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,319
And I'm checking it and I'm
thinking, "Well, yeah, that's it."
1204
01:10:08,319 --> 01:10:10,279
And you know, that's how it looked
1205
01:10:10,279 --> 01:10:12,119
and this is definitely the case.
1206
01:10:12,119 --> 01:10:15,479
And I remember carrying it
in that case.
1207
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,159
So I organised for somebody to go
and pick it up.
1208
01:10:20,079 --> 01:10:22,680
And then I said, "Have you got it?"
1209
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,479
And he said, "Yep, it's here."
1210
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,760
I said, "Keep it.
1211
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,560
"Don't let anybody...
1212
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,039
"Don't... Just put it away."
1213
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:38,359
# And in the end, the love you
take... #
1214
01:10:38,359 --> 01:10:40,560
LAUGHS: We've hardly let it
out of our sight!
1215
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,319
# Is equal to the love
1216
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,600
# You make... #
1217
01:10:57,319 --> 01:11:00,720
And I'm sitting at home on my sofa.
1218
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,880
Cathy's sitting over there
and my mobile phone goes.
1219
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,279
And this voice comes on and says,
1220
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:10,680
"Hey, we've got the bass back.
We've got the bass."
1221
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,279
And I'm thinking, "Who's that?
Who's this? Who are you?"
1222
01:11:13,279 --> 01:11:15,720
Then the penny dropped - the accent,
the Liverpool accent,
1223
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,279
and I realised it was
Paul McCartney.
1224
01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:23,000
Well, we didn't quite know who to
tell. Um...
1225
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,800
There were factors that meant we
should keep it a secret
1226
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,720
for a bit longer
till we got our act together.
1227
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,840
Till we've absolutely had
everyone verify that it was mine -
1228
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,960
people like Nick. Um...
1229
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:43,000
..so it was sweet to be able to ring
him up and say, "Guess what?"
1230
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,520
It was stunning!
1231
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,920
You know, it was like,
"Wow. What? Really?"
1232
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,319
And I think I said to Paul,
1233
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:52,720
"I think I'm going to go and get
a beer out of the fridge for this."
1234
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,880
And he said, "I would."
1235
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,800
He said, "Yeah, is it a German beer
like I used to drink in Hamburg?"
1236
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,000
It was just amazing
cos I could hear Paul
1237
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,640
on the phone to Nick
and it was just amazing.
1238
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,640
That was incredible
for us to just sit here thinking
1239
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,640
that Nick was in Germany,
Paul was in LA,
1240
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,720
the bass was in Sussex
1241
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,359
and we'd done it.
1242
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:20,600
What happened
for me over the last year,
1243
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,399
I've had two strokes,
1244
01:12:23,399 --> 01:12:27,880
which has certainly changed things
for our life.
1245
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:34,880
And the bass has certainly lightened
that situation for us, I would say.
1246
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,039
Yeah, sure - focuses the mind.
1247
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:43,800
BIRDSONG
1248
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:52,399
SOPHIE RAWORTH: Paul McCartney's
most treasured bass guitar
1249
01:12:52,399 --> 01:12:53,640
that he had played throughout
1250
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,079
the early days of The Beatles
vanished without trace.
1251
01:12:57,079 --> 01:13:01,199
Now, 51 years later,
it has been found.
1252
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:04,119
James Dunham went to meet the
mother-of-two who was unaware
1253
01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:07,159
she was holding on to
an iconic instrument.
1254
01:13:07,159 --> 01:13:10,520
I was actually cataloguing lots
of guitars that I've got.
1255
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,680
And when I googled it,
1256
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,079
it immediately came up.
1257
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:16,920
I panicked and then, uh,
1258
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,520
went straight to his house,
because I knew he lived nearby.
1259
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,720
And I eventually found it,
after going through a lot of fields.
1260
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,960
It had broken in the press that we
were looking for this lost bass.
1261
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,520
And that might have been one of the
reasons Cathy thought,
1262
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,479
"I'd better give it back."
1263
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:34,960
There's this little side life
1264
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,640
it's gone off and living
1265
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,119
with all these people I don't know.
1266
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:44,119
And... And it ends up with Cathy.
1267
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,039
This is Paul's bass.
This is something
1268
01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:53,920
he really, truly cares and loves.
1269
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,159
And if you leave a guitar in a
loft, it will destroy a guitar,
1270
01:13:57,159 --> 01:13:58,560
you know.
1271
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,800
You've got to put it all together.
1272
01:14:02,119 --> 01:14:03,439
Put the strings on
1273
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,199
and then just play that first chord
1274
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:07,199
and just hope that you've got it
right.
1275
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:09,720
That's where the craftsmanship is,
and Martin obviously
1276
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,880
is an old-school craftsman
in the way he works,
1277
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,279
the way he does things.
1278
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,800
These poor people that it means
a lot to you,
1279
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,359
but it doesn't really sort of...
1280
01:14:19,359 --> 01:14:21,039
I'm not that fussed about it.
1281
01:14:21,039 --> 01:14:23,319
I just think, "Get over
yourself. It's just a guitar."
1282
01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:26,000
And I, you know, now I get it,
I get I get it now,
1283
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,399
but I still don't GET IT get it,
really. You know, just leave it.
1284
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,399
Thieving's nothing to be proud of.
Full stop.
1285
01:14:34,399 --> 01:14:38,000
But that said, we've all done it.
We've all done it, so...
1286
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,880
But it's...the iconic guitar...
1287
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,079
..that he had in his hands.
1288
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,800
The implication, the size of it.
1289
01:14:56,319 --> 01:15:00,560
Its meaning to obviously
Paul McCartney, and other people.
1290
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,359
The enormity of it all is just
a bit sort of, phew, blimey.
1291
01:15:05,359 --> 01:15:07,800
Overwhelming?
Yeah. A little bit, yeah.
1292
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,560
I don't want... I don't want anyone
1293
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,039
to think of Dad anything
but a nice lad,
1294
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:18,000
because that's what he was. He was
a... He was a lovely, lovely lad.
1295
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:22,720
But there wasn't always a receipt
in the house for what we had.
1296
01:15:24,359 --> 01:15:27,479
It was just to make ends meet
a little bit.
1297
01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:34,119
I don't blame him too much,
you know.
1298
01:15:34,119 --> 01:15:37,520
I think it's just petty thievery.
1299
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,920
It's the kind of thing
we would have done
1300
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,640
a little bit of in Liverpool.
1301
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:47,000
Just, you know, just... It's there
and I could nick it,
1302
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:52,880
so I will. Um, we got out of
that pretty quickly.
1303
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,159
Because, luckily, the Beatles took
over
1304
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:59,000
and we found an honest
profession.
1305
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,000
But I can sympathise with people
who don't have that kind of luck.
1306
01:16:04,079 --> 01:16:06,079
So I don't blame him too much.
1307
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,600
I'm not comfortable.
1308
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,960
I'm not all right with it.
1309
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,359
You're sort of... You're taking
the name of my dad through
1310
01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:26,720
muddy waters,
and that's not what you do.
1311
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,600
Growing up anyway, I don't remember
my dad ever telling me he loved me.
1312
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,760
Not that that was a problem for me.
1313
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,479
It was just how it was.
1314
01:16:40,039 --> 01:16:44,520
When we had a little boy,
1315
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,000
and I rang home, he, uh...
1316
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,960
He never told me.
1317
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,039
Mum told me. But, um...
1318
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,640
..I later found out that he cried.
1319
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,600
Which Dad never did that.
Dad never...
1320
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,680
I never saw... I never saw a tear
out of my dad's eye.
1321
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,159
God, I can't remember, I think...
1322
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:19,600
But apparently he cried
cos, like, to Dad,
1323
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:20,840
it meant the name would never go.
1324
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,960
Did you just see the one I sent you?
1325
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,319
The one with the glue?
1326
01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:38,520
Have you seen that one yet?
1327
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,159
No. Oh, I've just sent...
I'm watching the dowels going in.
1328
01:17:41,159 --> 01:17:42,439
Oh, I've just sent you another one
1329
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,239
with Martin actually glueing
the neck back on.
1330
01:17:46,319 --> 01:17:49,039
Oh, lovely. Is that Martin?
Yep. Say hi.
1331
01:17:49,039 --> 01:17:51,039
Hello, Paul. Hi, Martin!
1332
01:17:51,039 --> 01:17:52,960
Your bass is saved.
1333
01:17:54,039 --> 01:17:57,039
Yeah, I know. Thanks for doing this,
man. It's great.
1334
01:17:57,039 --> 01:17:58,079
You're welcome.
1335
01:17:58,079 --> 01:17:59,800
I like his workshop as well.
1336
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,319
Oh, yes. Lovely workshop.
1337
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:03,600
Well, look at his garden.
1338
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,359
Oh, yeah, that's... There you go.
1339
01:18:05,359 --> 01:18:07,600
How beautiful is that? Yeah.
1340
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,399
Little pond. Beautiful.
1341
01:18:10,399 --> 01:18:12,479
Yeah. I can't wait to play it.
1342
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,159
Yeah, it won't be long.
1343
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:16,199
Have a good one, Paul.
Thank you. Bye.
1344
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,840
I feel like, over the last 20 years
or so,
1345
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,319
Paul to me seems to appreciate
1346
01:18:27,319 --> 01:18:31,000
more and more how good they were
and how good the songs were.
1347
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,239
When he plays them,
he really enjoys them
1348
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:35,399
and he thinks, this was a great song
and we really,
1349
01:18:35,399 --> 01:18:38,239
really did well, and he's so proud
of what they achieved.
1350
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:41,840
So I think now him playing them
onstage is big for him.
1351
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,079
I think he loves it.
1352
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,000
He's come that full circle.
1353
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,000
SOULFUL SONG PLAYS
1354
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,960
We could have a little breakdown.
1355
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,920
OK, cool. I've actually got
something you might want to see.
1356
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,279
You've got something for me.
1357
01:18:57,279 --> 01:18:58,880
A little something
you might want to see that
1358
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,520
I believe belonged to you.
1359
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,920
If you want to come this way.
1360
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,159
Whoa! Here it is.
1361
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:09,680
THEY LAUGH
1362
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,000
Look at that. Look at that.
1363
01:19:13,039 --> 01:19:15,000
He's done a brilliant job,
hasn't he?
1364
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,960
Oh... Oh, yeah, I wanted to
show you that.
1365
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,560
That's a little note from Martin.
It's from Martin.
1366
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,880
"Many times I've had the pleasure
1367
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,079
"of putting music back
into old broken instruments.
1368
01:19:32,079 --> 01:19:35,239
"It's been an absolute joy to
do that with your bass.
1369
01:19:35,239 --> 01:19:38,000
"So thanks, and I hope you like it.
1370
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,520
"Keep on trucking."
1371
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,479
Well, thank you, Martin.
1372
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,840
You've done a great job.
1373
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,239
Yeah. I love those kind of guys.
1374
01:19:45,239 --> 01:19:46,880
PLAYS AMPLIFIED
1375
01:19:59,239 --> 01:20:01,520
50 years ago
since you last played that.
1376
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,399
HE CHUCKLES
1377
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:05,720
That's crazy, isn't it? It's true,
isn't it? Yeah.
1378
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,119
It's over 50 years, yeah.
That's crazy.
1379
01:20:08,119 --> 01:20:10,960
But I'd love to know
what you were doing. Hmm.
1380
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,000
Maybe rehearsing for something.
1381
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,399
Yeah, and if the van had been
parked. I don't know.
1382
01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:18,119
Yeah. I know, it's a long time ago.
Well, the van's parked
1383
01:20:18,119 --> 01:20:21,279
and the guys go in
for a couple of pints,
1384
01:20:21,279 --> 01:20:24,159
and they decide they should leave
the van
1385
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:27,439
and go home and come back in
tomorrow morning.
1386
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,199
Oops. Slight mistake. Big mistake.
1387
01:20:30,199 --> 01:20:34,399
So it gets nicked and then ends up
with the local, uh...
1388
01:20:34,399 --> 01:20:35,720
Is that a bit short, the strap?
1389
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,560
Yeah. It's kind of a bigger rounder
sound, I feel.
1390
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,199
HE PLAYS DAY TRIPPER BASSLINE
1391
01:20:46,399 --> 01:20:48,359
LAUGHS
1392
01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:49,399
Yeah.
1393
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:53,600
Wow.
1394
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,359
There she is. Yeah.
1395
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,079
Welcome home, honey.
1396
01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:02,359
Look at that. Wow.
1397
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,560
Crazy story. Yeah. Yeah.
1398
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,399
INDISTINCT
1399
01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:12,159
SCOTT: You've got to go a long way
to find somebody that's grown up
1400
01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:13,640
without the Beatles.
1401
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,720
And I think there's something about
the relationship between us all -
1402
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,680
you know, normal people -
and The Beatles,
1403
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,000
and you sort of think you know them
because you know the music.
1404
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,720
Good to see Floss chasing as well.
1405
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,039
VOICE-OVER: The music went global,
1406
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:34,720
but the bass, by going off
on that weird route,
1407
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,279
the minute it went from that van
in Cambridge Gardens,
1408
01:21:38,279 --> 01:21:43,439
it's gone into
that ordinary British world.
1409
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:48,720
It's gone missing here. It's ended
up here, in ordinary streets,
1410
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,079
ordinary pubs, ordinary families.
1411
01:21:52,079 --> 01:21:54,720
And there's something incredible
about that in its own right.
1412
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:01,399
BIRDS CAW
1413
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,800
Dad used to say something to me.
1414
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,479
I was only about four or five, I
think. But he used to pick us up,
1415
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,399
pick me up
and I used to sit on the bar.
1416
01:22:10,399 --> 01:22:12,479
VOICE-OVER: I'm trying to be humble,
but, you know,
1417
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,119
I think I was an important
jigsaw puzzle piece because,
1418
01:22:16,119 --> 01:22:19,359
you know, I guess
if I hadn't been a Beatle fan,
1419
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:21,000
if I hadn't have met Steve...
1420
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,359
..if I hadn't have played the
guitar,
1421
01:22:24,359 --> 01:22:26,159
these little things
that fall into place,
1422
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:27,800
it might have just been a different
story.
1423
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,000
We might never have found it.
1424
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,439
There you go, mate - for your dad.
1425
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,880
Cheers. To the old man.
Absent friends. Yeah.
1426
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,359
We didn't get it back just for Paul.
1427
01:22:37,359 --> 01:22:40,920
We got it back for everybody
who was a Beatles fan.
1428
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,760
All the kids like me.
1429
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,479
We were little kids back then and
we're old farts now, you know.
1430
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,479
They could see that bass once more,
you know?
1431
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,520
BASS PLAYS
1432
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,279
I did take it down a bit. Yeah.
1433
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,760
It's much better.
The logo is totally different.
1434
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,640
Yeah, but that's the old logo.
1435
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,880
Oh, yeah! Early logo. Yeah, right.
1436
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,279
How's it feel?
1437
01:23:21,279 --> 01:23:23,159
It feels great. Does it?
1438
01:23:21,279 --> 01:23:23,159
THEY LAUGH
1439
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:25,359
Come on, we can go and open
the doors.
1440
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,399
HE LAUGHS
1441
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,880
LAUGHS: Hello!
1442
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:36,600
Always. Oh, good to see you, Nick.
My love. Fantastic to see you.
1443
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,680
First time ever. Hello.
We meet at last.
1444
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,199
Maybe he's going to play the bass.
Who can tell?
1445
01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:43,239
CHEERING
1446
01:23:55,119 --> 01:23:58,479
So, a little tale to tell you here.
1447
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,359
Um...
1448
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:06,439
A while ago, I
had a bass besides this one.
1449
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,199
My original bass.
1450
01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:12,239
And, uh, it got nicked,
tell you the truth.
1451
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:14,800
And we've been looking for it
for 50 years.
1452
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,199
Well, uh...
1453
01:24:17,399 --> 01:24:18,479
..I got it back.
1454
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,119
And here to make its first stage
appearance
1455
01:24:24,119 --> 01:24:27,760
in 50 years is my original bass.
1456
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,960
CHEERING
1457
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,000
Get Back. All right! Are you ready?
Yeah!
1458
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,319
Come on then.
1459
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,119
# Jojo was a man who thought he was
a loner
1460
01:24:57,119 --> 01:24:59,800
# But he knew it couldn't last
1461
01:25:01,279 --> 01:25:05,119
# Jojo left his home
in Tucson, Arizona
1462
01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:07,680
# For some California grass... #
1463
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:13,319
Well, we'd love to see it in your
hands, if you're happy to grab it.
1464
01:25:13,319 --> 01:25:14,960
I have it right here.
1465
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,800
HE CHUCKLES
1466
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,560
There she is.
1467
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,039
That's my old baby.
1468
01:25:21,119 --> 01:25:24,159
Do you find yourself getting a bit
more reflective as you get older?
1469
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:26,920
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, definitely.
1470
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:32,000
Um...because it's so special.
1471
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,119
I don't have an amp.
1472
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,720
These are just four guys in
Liverpool
1473
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,800
who didn't know each other.
1474
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:50,079
I got introduced to John
via a schoolmate of mine and,
1475
01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:51,760
yeah, I really liked him.
1476
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:52,880
It's lovely to play.
1477
01:25:54,039 --> 01:25:57,680
And then George
I knew off the school bus.
1478
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,680
And John was looking
for someone else to play guitar.
1479
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,399
And I said, "I've got this mate,
you know, who's pretty good."
1480
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,760
Yeah, you can get right up there
and you wouldn't normally use them.
1481
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,600
I said to George, "Go on, play it."
He's looking at me.
1482
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,680
So I encouraged George.
George got it out of the case
1483
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,600
and he plays a thing called Raunchy,
1484
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,399
which is good and he did it great.
1485
01:26:24,399 --> 01:26:27,439
Then suddenly we had three of
the Beatles then.
1486
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:33,359
And it only needed Ringo
to show up for us to be complete.
1487
01:26:39,119 --> 01:26:42,880
# Jojo was a man
who thought he was a loner
1488
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,640
# But he knew it couldn't last
1489
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,640
# Jojo left his home
in Tucson, Arizona
1490
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,039
# For some California grass
1491
01:26:54,039 --> 01:26:56,079
# Get back
1492
01:26:56,079 --> 01:26:57,479
# Get back
1493
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,640
# Get back to where you once
belonged
1494
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:02,680
# Get back
1495
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,359
# Get back
1496
01:27:05,359 --> 01:27:08,880
# Get back
to where you once belonged
1497
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,159
# Get back, Jojo
1498
01:27:20,359 --> 01:27:21,439
# Go home! #112808
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