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Oh, my God.
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Don't do it. Be careful. Don't do it.
Wow, that was so close. It was
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Hey, what's going on, everybody? From
First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans. You're
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watching Hot Ones, and today we bring
you a very special episode brought to
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by Stella Artois, the official beer
sponsor of Hot Ones, and I'm thrilled to
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joined in the studio with Rachel
Brosnahan.
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She's an Emmy and Golden Globe Award
-winning actress known from acclaimed
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performances in The Marvelous Mrs.
Maisel, Superman, The Broadway Stage,
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much more. But today, her scene partner
is a gauntlet of scorching hot chicken
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wings, Rachel Brosnahan. Welcome to the
show.
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Thank you.
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How are you around spicy food before we
get started?
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Like, I'm okay. I enjoy spicy food, but
I've never tested myself to this degree
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before.
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Well, before we get into the wings, I
want to let you know that we have plenty
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of Stella on deck, and I have a feeling
they'll come in handy as things begin to
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escalate. So what do you say we get
started?
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Cheers. Cheers.
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Oh, God.
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Mmm.
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That's delicious.
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So since premiering in 2017, The
Marvelous Mrs. Maisel has become one of
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most visually elaborate productions on
television, with everything from period
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recreations to Carnegie Hall to the
Catskills, even scenes with hundreds of
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extras. What stands out in your memory
as the most jaw -dropping set you've
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walked onto filming that show?
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Oh, man. It was one of those jobs where
I was constantly reminded how lucky we
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were to be there, but also one of those
things where movie magic just comes
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alive in front of you. We shot this.
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USO scene with 850 background actors,
and they built this stage. It was this
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incredible oner that we had rehearsed
for days.
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And it just, the scope of it, the scale
of it, especially for a television show,
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was unlike anything I'd ever seen
before.
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We felt like rock stars. It was one of
those things where you just wanted to
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bottle the feeling and hold on to it for
a sad day.
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And then Amy Sherman Palladino has this
very unique writing style, rhythmic,
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almost musical. It makes me wonder, what
are the kinds of highly specific notes
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or direction that you get in between
takes regarding your character's
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Mostly you just hear Amy from offset
somewhere going, faster, pace, pace,
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You know, she would just yell it all the
time. But that was mostly the note.
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Faster, faster, faster, pace, pace,
pace. Well, on the topic of pace, pace,
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pace, are you ready to move on here to
the next one? Yeah, let's blow through
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it.
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Also great.
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Okay. I see another affirming nod.
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Yeah. So far so good. Delicious.
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I know it's going to get bad, but.
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Enjoy it while you have it. Exactly.
That's right. Thank you, Sean.
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So you studied drama at NYU, which has
all of these different schools that
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specialize in different acting
techniques.
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What kind of Hogwarts hat sorting
process?
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Went into your decision to become a
disciple of Lee Strasberg. Wow, a
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I love that. I wish that I had anything
to do with it. Mostly you're just a
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terrified 17 -year -old getting shoved
into a room with people behind a
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clipboard, and you do a monologue, and
you're trying not to shit your pants and
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cry, and then they sort of look at you,
and then somebody goes, Strasberg!
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Or what's the Slytherin equivalent, I
wonder?
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Would that be Adler?
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Let's go with that.
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Adler, you know. And, yeah, I have no
idea. They get it right most of the
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I think, so they must be able to see
something in people who come in. Can you
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explain what sense memory is and then
maybe use an example of how you might
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it to inform a performance?
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I had a drama teacher say once that you
should never tell anyone about this
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because they think you're fucking crazy.
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So I preface this by it's crazy.
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We're all crazy. No one gets into this
because we're well -adjusted and normal.
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My understanding of it is that it's the
idea that your body remembers things
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that your brain might not. One of the
ways it was explained to me was that,
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know, for example, if you had
experienced snow when you were three
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you might not remember what snow felt
like, but your body does.
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And so you could, in theory, draw upon
that experience sensorily to...
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make something happen for yourself, I'm
kind of feeling.
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But ultimately, you end up with a
toolbox of things that you can pretty
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draw upon to evoke some kind of emotion.
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I feel it. There's a little bit of worm.
Yeah, there's a little kick at the end
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here. To me, in the back of the throat.
Oh, yeah. There it goes.
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Share an experience, Rachel. Yeah.
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You performed at Steppenwolf, the New
York Theater Workshop, Brooklyn Academy
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Music, Broadway and beyond.
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What is pound for pound your favorite
theater to perform in and what makes it
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the perfect room for a stage actor?
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Oh, what a lovely question.
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Man, they've all been so different.
Those theaters are all completely
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from each other. I have such a fond
relationship to the Steppenwolf because
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from Chicago.
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Same. Oh, right. I forgot about that.
Where are you from? Crystal Lake. Right.
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Highland Park. Yeah, yeah. North
Suburbs, Northwest.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I mean, I love that theater. I
grew up going to see shows at the
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Steppenwolf, and it's such an intimate
space, but you really are standing on
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shoulders of giants in that arena.
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And it was my first professional theater
production.
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Was that up?
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Up. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wow, you really do
dig.
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Yeah, up. Exactly.
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That was one of those moments, which
happened over and over again, if you're
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lucky, where I was like, I think I was
18, and I was like, I think this is it.
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think this is the dream.
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It was amazing.
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Notes of peach?
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Yeah, at first. And then the habanero
really kicks in in the second act.
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I'm starting to see where we're going
with this.
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I'm starting to see homegrown hell
approaching fast. It is approaching
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too, by the way. It's still nice,
though.
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I like the flavors.
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We can still enjoy what we have.
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You had a quote where you talked about
how the role of Lois Lane was the
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you've ever played to yourself.
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What was it about that role that hit so
close to home?
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It can be kind of obsessive. She can be
kind of intense.
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I understand that. I think when I really
care about something,
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I can also be kind of intense about it.
I appreciate someone and hope that I can
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do that myself who will go to the ends
of the earth for the things that they
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believe in.
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Is it easier or harder to approach a
character like Lois Lane that has 75
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worth of mythology built up through
comic books and other kinds of media?
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Probably both because in some ways
there's so much material to draw from
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there's so many different
interpretations.
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and also by different comic book artists
and writers over the years. And so
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there was such a wealth of material to
draw from.
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But then obviously there's the pressure
to do right by the fans who love this
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character so much. And have their own
kind of ownership over it, yeah.
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and they're right. And so we're just
trying to fill these really big shoes
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make them happy, but also hopefully
bring something new to it as well.
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I think that this is a nice checkpoint
on the mountain, you know, as we
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the summit of this whole experience.
Yeah, where's the summit, would you say?
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Right after this one, you know? Perfect.
We're going to dab.
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Great. We're going to rip it, and then
we're going to get a beautiful view from
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the top of the mountain, all right? So a
detail that doesn't get brought up
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enough is that you wrestled for two
years while at Highland Park High
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Yeah. What drew you to the mat, and do
you see any similarities between acting
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and wrestling?
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Totally.
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To the second part, it's...
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hugely improvisational. You're really
just watching someone closely and
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listening to them and trying to react to
them in real time.
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What drew me to it, a lot of my friends
had been wrestling since junior high,
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and I'd always kind of been interested
in it. I'm not sure. I was really
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competitive.
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snowboarded with a bunch of guys who
wrestled and had always just been
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about it. Yeah, and you were a snowboard
instructor too, right? I was, yeah, for
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a couple years out in Wisconsin.
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That's like the nearest, very icy.
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There's a couple mountains there, very
small.
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And yeah, a couple buddies did it and my
parents were horrified and never came
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to a match until like the very end of my
wrestling career. And then I
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I opted for musical theater, which was a
poor choice.
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I can't sing or dance. Imagine what
would have happened if you really just
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doubled down on wrestling.
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I would have had a very different life.
I would have been on Glow is what would
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have happened.
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What's it like going back to high school
after doing a Michael Bay movie? Does
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your popularity skyrocket or do you
return to more of the same?
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I don't think that many people knew that
I had done it.
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Because truthfully, I wasn't...
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I don't think I was well known for my
acting talent in high school.
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I, like, barely made the school plays
and was mostly in the chorus, but just
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loved it and was maybe insane to think
that I could actually do it. The naivete
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of youth. Yeah, exactly. And so I
started looking for opportunity outside
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school because I wanted to act and
wasn't really, you know, hadn't made
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musicals at that point.
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And I had this opportunity when that
movie, The Unborn, came through Chicago.
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Nothing was different. I mean, my
parents were still mad at me for not
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straight A's.
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And I think my parents thought it was
fine. Missing the AP Calc exam and on
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on. Yeah, exactly. Wow, you really dove
deep.
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Things are changing.
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Yeah, this is another stop.
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It really announces that we're in the
back half at this point. Yeah, tastes
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still great.
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Really, at first.
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But then, yeah, you're a little more
awake now.
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Yeah, I'm awake.
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Yeah, same page, same wavelength right
now. Great.
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Have you ever had a moment in your
career where you feel like you gave
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everything to a scene only to have it
cut from the TV show or film? And if so,
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is that a painful experience or just the
cost of doing business as an actor?
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I've definitely had things that were
cut, but I feel like so far...
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I can recognize that it's usually for
the betterment of the story as a whole.
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Like it helps the pace or it helps
clarify something for the central
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But I can't wait to get fully cut out of
something sometime in my future.
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I hate to say it out loud, but I have
yet to be fired. And that's a rite of
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passage that, you know, we all deserve
to have at some point. What would you
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estimate to be your personal record for
most takes ever requested by a director
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while shooting a single scene?
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I had the privilege of being on the
first season of House of Cards.
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And David Fincher directed the pilot.
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I had been warned that he likes to do a
number of takes.
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I don't know how many it was, but we did
so many takes of my first scene, which
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was a scene where Michael Kelly, who
played Doug Stamper, put a wad of money
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my mouth.
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And by the time we were done, I couldn't
see him anymore. Like, there was a
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light. behind him like there is you
right now and at some point you should
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being able to see your scene partner
which maybe is the point i don't know
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there's something to you know you do a
couple takes and they're fine and then
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everything's horrible for a really long
time and if you're lucky you push
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through and something magical find that
magic after you push through yeah
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Honestly, not that different from the
experience right here. Because here we
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are, six down. Great transition time.
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Take a great deal of pride in this
segue.
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And this to me is another jump.
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Significant jump.
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Whoa.
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Whoa.
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So I understand that your father worked
in children's publishing. I know that
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you're an avid reader. I've heard you
describe yourself as an anglophile.
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If you could adapt one fantasy novel
from your youth to turn into a film,
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would it be?
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Oh, my God.
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Don't do it. Be careful. Don't do it.
Wow, that was so close. It was
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I'm just going to cry openly.
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There was a lesser known series called
Daughters of the Moon that I read.
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alongside no one else.
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One second, please.
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Take your time.
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Holy shit.
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Oh,
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wow. Okay, I'm going to do this because
I haven't touched... That's a veteran
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move right there. I do that sometimes,
too.
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Wow, what was the question?
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Oh, Daughters of the Moon.
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I tried a couple years back to adapt
that into a television series, and I'd
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still love to. It's about these four
young women, who are just trying to be
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normal high schoolers and learn that
they have magical powers.
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And I think it's really empowering to
young women.
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And they deserve to have that.
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So one day, look out for Daughters of
the Moon.
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Yeah.
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I do think this is helping.
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No, it does.
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Beer is a good lifeline.
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Okay. If you're ready to move on. Yeah,
great. Let's go. This is the bomb beyond
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insanity.
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Be careful.
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Do you ever say a prayer?
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Yeah, in my head. Yeah, how's it go?
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Yeah. Will you say one for us?
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Who are we looking at?
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Looking up to the spice gods.
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Yeah. Please give us the strength to
make it all the way to the end. We know
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that you'll challenge us. Are you
looking down at hell right now? With the
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beyond insanity.
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It's helpful to look up and down. You
were like, to heaven and to hell. Yeah.
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Whoever's going to help us out here,
I'll take it from either side. Great.
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No lips.
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Deep.
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Oh, God.
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Oh, God. Two legs.
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Oh, God.
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Oh, no.
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Mm -hmm.
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Wow.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah, just be careful.
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Hands.
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Cool. We'll stay like this for a while.
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Wings fly through this.
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What I've done is I've pulled some of
Midge's most iconic looks.
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We're going to pull them up over here on
the monitor.
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I'm just kind of curious what the
costume says.
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I'm sobbing.
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Is there anything significant about the
color pink in wardrobe choices?
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What do I do?
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Probably.
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Our costume designer.
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Donna, Amy used to say that Donna
discovered, holy shit,
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so many new shades of pink.
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She invented shades of pink for this
show.
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That one, I don't know what it's called.
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Up next, I believe Donna described red
as a power color.
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Do you agree?
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What role does it play in the costume
here?
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Am I sweating?
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Yeah. How red do I look? You know how
you were talking about not being able to
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see a scene partner just the way I do?
You can't see me anymore? That's kind of
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where I'm at right now.
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Yes, I'm sure it is a power color in
some states, and New York was one of
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on this day. Up next, what makes this
the right fit for attending a friend's
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wedding after a falling out?
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I mean, you know, it's, like,
conservative in some ways, but there's a
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like, boob cut out so that you can steal
the attention.
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You want people to look at you and take
you seriously.
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And then lastly, have you ever had a
time where a wardrobe has failed you
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a shoot? You do a lot of high fashion
running.
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It makes me wonder if a heel ever
snapped or anything like that. I'm going
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put that on my resume.
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A heel has definitely snapped on the
Marvelous Mrs. Maisel more than once.
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it's tough when they're vintage because
there's no...
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replacement so if you look really
closely you can probably see some um wow
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really sweating you can probably see
some uh lack of continuity with the
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how we feeling we are feeling so many
things i don't know what we just looked
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here's the good news nothing is as bad
as what you just ate you just had the
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worst one yes i think you're lying no i
don't i'm actually at the chicken wing
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talk show host of the highest dignity I
don't know. There's something about your
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eyes.
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I can't taste it anymore.
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Oh, man.
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Helps. For the uninitiated, what makes
Xenon Girl of the 21st Century a goaded
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children's movie?
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I mean, her one earring, she inspired a
generation of fashion girlies.
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She had a computer chip on her ear.
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Nothing says Y2K more than that.
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I would love the Xenon girl at the 21st
Century Reunion.
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Broadway adaptation, maybe.
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A Broadway adaptation.
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I shall not be performing the lead role.
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So this is the last dab. We call it the
last dab because it's tradition around
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here to put a little extra on the last
wing. You don't have to if you don't
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to. You're doing it.
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You're doing it. I'm going to tell you.
Okay, hold on.
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How do we get in there?
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I can give you mine if it's tough with
the nails.
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I don't know if there's a fresh
manicure. I don't know. It is, but fuck
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We're here.
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We're here.
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That's good. That's good. That's good. I
just do a little dip and rip.
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This is something to be proud of. We've
gotten all the way. This is something to
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be proud of. You're exactly right. This
is the moment.
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Cheers. Is that too much? Am I going to
die?
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Uh, you know, we're going out of the
way.
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Oh,
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God.
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And with that, the wings of death are
behind us.
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Hey. And to close things out, tonally,
what's the difference between your
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natural speaking voice and the way that
your character talks?
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Like, how would Midge describe
conquering the wings of death today?
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I feel like Midge would be like...
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Fuck you, Sean.
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Get my tits up.
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And she'd have some excellent joke that
I'm too spiced out right now. Spiced
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out. Is that the professional term?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the industry
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-specific vernacular.
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No, I feel like mid -talk at ten times
the speed that I can in my real life.
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And, you know, to be honest, a lot of
that was brought on by Corset and Amy
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-camera being like, talk faster, talk
faster.
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And there was only one way to do it. And
so that just became Midge's voice.
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Well, look at you, Rachel Rosnahan,
taking on the weight of death,
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living to tell the tale. And now there's
nothing left to do but cheers with
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Estella to the summit and the beautiful
view. Cheers to the beautiful view.
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Thank you for this adventure.
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And now there's nothing left to do but
roll out the red carpet for you. This
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camera, this camera, this camera. Let
the people know what you have going on
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your life.
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I'm currently shooting the second season
of Presumed Innocent for Apple.
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And I'm shortly going to start shooting
the next Superman film, Man of Tomorrow.
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Thanks, y 'all.
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Worse than you thought it would be? What
you thought it would be?
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I wasn't sure I'd be able to make it to
the end.
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So better.
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Competitiveness. I learned something
about myself today. That's exactly
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I'm sobbing.
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