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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,459 --> 00:00:14,911 Captioning sponsored by CBS >> I LIVED IN FEAR EVERY DAY. 2 00:00:14,945 --> 00:00:17,465 WHAT I WOULD FACE. 3 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:18,397 >> YEAH, I WAS SCARED. 4 00:00:18,432 --> 00:00:20,330 DID I THINK SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN? 5 00:00:20,365 --> 00:00:22,505 YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN MONEY'S INVOLVED. 6 00:00:22,539 --> 00:00:24,196 THIS IS BUSINESS. 7 00:00:24,231 --> 00:00:26,509 >> IT'S DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH. 8 00:00:26,543 --> 00:00:29,857 >> IT'S A HUGE CORPORATION. 9 00:00:29,891 --> 00:00:31,617 THE INTIMIDATION IS THERE. 10 00:00:31,652 --> 00:00:34,517 IT'S THE FEAR FACTOR EVERYBODY FEEDS ON. 11 00:00:34,551 --> 00:00:40,557 >> WHAT WOULD YOU DO WHEN SOMETHING JUST FEELS WRONG? 12 00:00:40,592 --> 00:00:44,285 >> I WAS A DENTIST, AND I SAW UNNECESSARY PROCEDURES, CHILDREN 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,737 BEING TRAUMATIZED. 14 00:00:47,771 --> 00:00:50,740 I WAS STRESSED TO MY EYEBALLS. 15 00:00:50,774 --> 00:00:54,192 >> WHEN YOU FEAR PEOPLE COULD GET HURT? 16 00:00:54,226 --> 00:00:57,574 >> I WOULD HEAR CHILDREN CRYING AT WORK, ALL DAY. 17 00:00:57,609 --> 00:01:00,750 >> Reporter: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE STRESS FROM WORKING AT KOOL 18 00:01:00,784 --> 00:01:01,992 SMILES BROKE UP YOUR MARRIAGE? 19 00:01:02,027 --> 00:01:03,408 >> MOST DEFINITELY. 20 00:01:03,442 --> 00:01:06,894 IT IS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. 21 00:01:06,928 --> 00:01:11,657 >> THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LITTLE KIDS. 22 00:01:11,692 --> 00:01:14,867 THEY WERE DOING BABY ROOT CANALS ON TEETH THAT COULD'VE HAD 23 00:01:14,902 --> 00:01:17,284 REGULAR FILLINGS. 24 00:01:17,318 --> 00:01:18,664 IT WAS MONEY. 25 00:01:18,699 --> 00:01:20,873 IT WAS PRODUCTION. 26 00:01:20,908 --> 00:01:22,220 >> 911, WHAT IS YOUR EMERGENCY? 27 00:01:22,254 --> 00:01:25,085 >> WE HAVE A CHILD THAT IS NON- RESPONSIVE. 28 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:27,087 >> WOULD YOU BLOW THE WHISTLE? 29 00:01:27,121 --> 00:01:29,089 THESE PEOPLE DID. 30 00:01:29,123 --> 00:01:30,745 >> I AM DR. MICHAEL GREENWALD. 31 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:32,609 >> I'M DR. RAI. 32 00:01:32,644 --> 00:01:34,473 >> I AM A WHISTLEBLOWER. 33 00:01:34,508 --> 00:01:37,062 >> AND I'M A WHISTLEBLOWER. 34 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:42,826 >> I AM MYCHAL WILSON, AND I AM A WHISTLEBLOWER. 35 00:01:42,861 --> 00:01:46,036 I WAS A PHARMACEUTICAL SALES REP FOR BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB, AND I 36 00:01:46,071 --> 00:01:49,626 WITNESSED VARIOUS FORMS OF FRAUD SUCH AS KICKBACKS IN EXCHANGE 37 00:01:49,661 --> 00:01:50,834 FOR PRESCRIPTIONS. 38 00:01:50,869 --> 00:01:53,251 >> Reporter: DO YOU THINK PATIENTS WERE PUT AT RISK BY 39 00:01:53,285 --> 00:01:54,493 THIS PROCEDURE? 40 00:01:54,528 --> 00:01:56,150 >> COMPLETELY. 41 00:01:56,185 --> 00:02:00,948 >> THEY USED THE LAW, GOING UNDERCOVER... 42 00:02:00,982 --> 00:02:06,643 >> I SAVED DOCUMENTS, AND I KEPT THEM IN MY STORAGE UNIT. 43 00:02:06,678 --> 00:02:10,268 WHEN SOMEONE'S DOCUMENTING YOU, YOU SHOULD DOCUMENT THEM. 44 00:02:10,302 --> 00:02:13,961 THIS IS THE HOT DOC BOX, EVIDENCE WHICH WOULD LATER 45 00:02:13,995 --> 00:02:15,514 BECOME VALUABLE EVIDENCE. 46 00:02:15,549 --> 00:02:18,517 >> ...PUTTING EVERYTHING ON THE LINE. 47 00:02:18,552 --> 00:02:21,141 >> I BECAME SO PARANOID THAT I STARTED CHECKING UNDER THE HOOD 48 00:02:21,175 --> 00:02:22,866 OF MY CAR. 49 00:02:22,901 --> 00:02:26,249 >> FOR THE FEW WHO WIN, THE REWARDS CAN BE STAGGERING. 50 00:02:26,284 --> 00:02:29,563 >> I CAN SAY IT WAS A MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR AWARD. 51 00:02:29,597 --> 00:02:32,013 >> BUT THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. 52 00:02:32,048 --> 00:02:34,637 >> I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE GO INTO BANKRUPTCY. 53 00:02:34,671 --> 00:02:36,328 THEY GET BLACKLISTED. 54 00:02:36,363 --> 00:02:38,158 IT'S VERY STRESSFUL. 55 00:02:38,192 --> 00:02:40,919 >> I ALWAYS KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING WAS RIGHT, AND I ALWAYS 56 00:02:40,953 --> 00:02:43,542 KNEW THAT WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS WRONG. 57 00:02:43,577 --> 00:02:47,581 >> THEIR BIGGEST MISTAKE WAS HIRING ME. 58 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:03,183 >> Reporter: I'M ALEX FERRER. 59 00:03:03,217 --> 00:03:04,839 THIS IS "WHITLEBLOWER." 60 00:03:04,874 --> 00:03:07,635 WHAT'S THE LAST THING YOU IMAGINE WOULD EVER HAPPEN WHEN 61 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:12,709 YOU TAKE YOUR KID TO THE DENTIST? 62 00:03:12,744 --> 00:03:16,368 MEET DR. MICHAEL GREENWALD, A SUCCESSFUL CONNECTICUT DENTIST 63 00:03:16,403 --> 00:03:19,060 WHO SOLD HIS PRACTICE AND WENT TRAVELING. 64 00:03:19,095 --> 00:03:21,753 >> THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE. 65 00:03:21,787 --> 00:03:23,064 >> Reporter: YOU HAD YOUR FILL OF ADVENTURE. 66 00:03:23,099 --> 00:03:28,311 >> OH, LORD, IF I SAW ANOTHER PALM TREE, I SWEAR I'D GO CRAZY. 67 00:03:28,346 --> 00:03:31,003 >> Reporter: AN ONLINE JOB POSTING CAUGHT HIS EYE. 68 00:03:31,038 --> 00:03:34,421 >> HEY, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW, KOOL SMILES IS AN 69 00:03:34,455 --> 00:03:36,354 AWESOME FAMILY DENTIST! 70 00:03:36,388 --> 00:03:38,390 >> KOOL SMILES! 71 00:03:38,425 --> 00:03:40,737 >> Reporter: KOOL SMILES IS A MASSIVE, NATIONWIDE CORPORATION 72 00:03:40,772 --> 00:03:45,225 WITH MORE THAN 120 CLINICS CATERING TO KIDS. 73 00:03:45,259 --> 00:03:48,676 >> KOOL SMILES TYPICALLY TARGETED THOSE THAT ARE 74 00:03:48,711 --> 00:03:51,783 RECIPIENTS OF MEDICAID. 75 00:03:51,817 --> 00:03:58,203 IT IS AN INSURANCE THAT PROVIDES COVERAGE FOR A POPULATION THAT 76 00:03:58,238 --> 00:04:01,827 OTHERWISE COULDN'T SEEK COVERAGE. 77 00:04:01,862 --> 00:04:03,760 IT'S FANTASTIC. 78 00:04:03,795 --> 00:04:06,349 I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST, WOW, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. 79 00:04:06,384 --> 00:04:07,592 WE'RE TREATING CHILDREN. 80 00:04:07,626 --> 00:04:09,007 THEY'RE UNDERSERVED. 81 00:04:09,041 --> 00:04:10,836 WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME GOOD. 82 00:04:10,871 --> 00:04:14,288 >> Reporter: HE TOOK THE JOB, AND REALITY HIT. 83 00:04:14,323 --> 00:04:16,946 SO, WHAT IS YOUR FIRST IMPRESSION WHEN YOU START 84 00:04:16,980 --> 00:04:18,085 WORKING AT KOOL SMILES? 85 00:04:18,119 --> 00:04:19,569 >> FIRST IMPRESSION? 86 00:04:19,604 --> 00:04:20,984 PRODUCTION. 87 00:04:21,019 --> 00:04:22,469 >> Reporter: LIKE A MILL? 88 00:04:22,503 --> 00:04:24,712 >> LIKE A MILL. 89 00:04:24,747 --> 00:04:29,510 IT'S CHICKEN NUGGETS GETTING PRODUCED DOWN A CONVEYOR BELT. 90 00:04:29,545 --> 00:04:34,860 I THINK THE SETTING WAS CONTROLLED CHAOS. 91 00:04:34,895 --> 00:04:37,415 >> Reporter: HE SAYS CORPORATE OWNERS DICTATED THE WORK TO BE 92 00:04:37,449 --> 00:04:38,795 DONE. 93 00:04:38,830 --> 00:04:41,936 >> I'D LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'D RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF TREATMENT, 94 00:04:41,971 --> 00:04:43,524 AND IT RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY. 95 00:04:43,559 --> 00:04:46,976 "INSTEAD OF DOING ONE FILLING, WE WANT YOU TO GO TO TOWN AND DO 96 00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:49,944 EVERYTHING. 97 00:04:49,979 --> 00:04:53,051 IF NOT EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRE MOUTH, AT LEAST THE ENTIRE LEFT- 98 00:04:53,085 --> 00:04:56,641 HAND SIDE OR THE ENTIRE RIGHT- HAND SIDE, TOP AND BOTTOM." 99 00:04:56,675 --> 00:04:59,540 IT'S PRETTY AGGRESSIVE TREATMENT, ESPECIALLY FOR A 100 00:04:59,575 --> 00:05:02,336 LITTLE FIVE- OR SIX-YEAR-OLD. 101 00:05:02,371 --> 00:05:05,581 >> Reporter: DR. GREENWALD SAYS KOOL SMILES TREATMENTS WEREN'T 102 00:05:05,615 --> 00:05:08,791 JUST AGGRESSIVE, THEY WERE EXCESSIVE. 103 00:05:08,825 --> 00:05:12,104 HE SAYS DENTISTS REGULARLY PERFORMED UNNECESSARY TOOTH 104 00:05:12,139 --> 00:05:14,969 EXTRACTIONS AND ROOT CANALS ON BABY TEETH. 105 00:05:15,004 --> 00:05:18,076 AND THEN, THERE ARE STAINLESS STEEL CROWNS LIKE THESE WHICH 106 00:05:18,110 --> 00:05:20,320 COST US ABOUT $4 A PIECE. 107 00:05:20,354 --> 00:05:23,392 THEY WERE A HIGH-PROFIT ITEM FOR KOOL SMILES. 108 00:05:23,426 --> 00:05:26,153 GREENWALD SAYS DENTISTS THERE PUT WAY TOO MANY OF THEM ON 109 00:05:26,187 --> 00:05:29,156 TEETH THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY FALL OUT ON THEIR OWN. 110 00:05:29,190 --> 00:05:30,744 HERE'S HOW IT WORKED. 111 00:05:30,778 --> 00:05:37,820 >> YOU HAVE SOME BABY TEETH, PEDIATRIC TEETH, THAT HAVE JUST 112 00:05:37,854 --> 00:05:40,063 A LITTLE PINHOLE INTO THE ENAMEL, THE HARD SURFACE OF THE 113 00:05:40,098 --> 00:05:41,202 TOOTH. 114 00:05:41,237 --> 00:05:42,790 >> Reporter: A CAVITY. 115 00:05:42,825 --> 00:05:44,171 >> YEAH, A TEENY LITTLE CAVITY. 116 00:05:44,205 --> 00:05:46,725 AND, ON MEDICAID, A SMALL, SILVER FILLING, A GENERAL 117 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,212 PRACTICE MIGHT GET REIMBURSED $35, $45. 118 00:05:51,247 --> 00:05:55,216 BUT ON A METAL CROWN, MAYBE CLOSE TO $250, $300. 119 00:05:55,251 --> 00:05:56,701 >> Reporter: AND A ROOT CANAL? 120 00:05:56,735 --> 00:05:59,462 >> ADD ANOTHER $150. 121 00:05:59,497 --> 00:06:06,435 SO, EACH TOOTH WENT FROM A $30, $40 FILLING TO A $500 GAIN. 122 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:10,542 >> Reporter: EXPECTATIONS: DO AS MUCH WORK AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE 123 00:06:10,577 --> 00:06:14,132 THE SUITS AT KOOL SMILES ASSUMED MEDICAID PATIENTS WOULDN'T BE 124 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:15,582 COMING BACK ANYTIME SOON. 125 00:06:15,616 --> 00:06:18,619 >> THEY'D SAY, "WELL, THIS MAY BE YOUR ONLY CHANCE OF TREATING 126 00:06:18,654 --> 00:06:23,175 THE CHILD, SO, ACTUALLY, WE'RE DOING THEM A FAVOR BY 127 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:26,040 PREEMPTIVELY TREATING THAT TOOTH BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT SEEK 128 00:06:26,075 --> 00:06:28,733 TREATMENT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS." 129 00:06:28,767 --> 00:06:32,840 >> Reporter: UNLIKE DR. GREENWALD, WHO HAD 30 YEARS OF 130 00:06:32,875 --> 00:06:38,398 DENTISTRY UNDER HIS BELT, KOOL SMILES RECRUITS WERE MOSTLY 131 00:06:38,432 --> 00:06:41,815 YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED DENTISTS, RECENT IMMIGRANTS. 132 00:06:41,849 --> 00:06:43,195 DR. RAI WAS ONE OF THEM. 133 00:06:43,230 --> 00:06:46,233 >> I HAD A RECRUITER CALL ME, AND I WAS LOOKING FOR A JOB AT 134 00:06:46,267 --> 00:06:47,648 THAT TIME. 135 00:06:47,683 --> 00:06:50,340 I WAS STRUGGLING TO FIND A POSITION. 136 00:06:50,375 --> 00:06:53,343 >> Reporter: AND WHAT DID YOU LIKE ABOUT THE OFFER? 137 00:06:53,378 --> 00:07:00,109 >> THEY SAID THEY DID NOT NEED ANY EXPERIENCE, AND THAT THEY 138 00:07:00,143 --> 00:07:01,455 WILL TRAIN US. 139 00:07:01,490 --> 00:07:02,663 IT WAS A DREAM JOB. 140 00:07:02,698 --> 00:07:05,390 >> Reporter: WHAT DID THEY OFFER YOU AS A STARTING SALARY? 141 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:07,806 >> THE TOTAL PACKAGE WAS $180,000. 142 00:07:07,841 --> 00:07:10,119 I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A SMALL, LITTLE SHOT THERE. 143 00:07:10,153 --> 00:07:11,396 IS THAT OKAY? 144 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:14,019 >> Reporter: WITH A NEW BABY AT HOME AND A MOUNTAIN OF STUDENT 145 00:07:14,054 --> 00:07:15,952 DEBT, DR. RAI PACKED HER BAGS AND SHIPPED OFF TO AMARILLO, 146 00:07:15,987 --> 00:07:17,195 TEXAS. 147 00:07:17,229 --> 00:07:19,266 HOW BIG WERE YOUR STUDENT LOANS WHEN YOU GOT OUT OF DENTAL 148 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:20,267 SCHOOL? 149 00:07:20,301 --> 00:07:21,268 >> I HAD AROUND $250,000. 150 00:07:21,302 --> 00:07:23,201 >> Reporter: THAT'S LIKE A MORTGAGE. 151 00:07:23,235 --> 00:07:24,720 >> YES, MORE THAN THAT. 152 00:07:24,754 --> 00:07:27,550 JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE AND BE ABLE TO 153 00:07:27,585 --> 00:07:30,795 SUPPORT MY FAMILY WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME. 154 00:07:30,829 --> 00:07:34,005 >> Reporter: BUT IT WAS A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. 155 00:07:34,039 --> 00:07:37,767 >> YOU HAVE A REPORT CARD THAT SHOWS THAT... HOW MUCH YOU'RE 156 00:07:37,802 --> 00:07:41,357 PERFORMING, HOW MUCH PER PATIENT YOU'RE PRODUCING. 157 00:07:41,391 --> 00:07:43,946 AND YOU KNOWTHE COMPENSATION OF EACH PROCEDURE. 158 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:46,949 IT DOESAFFECT THE MEDICAL JUDGMENT. 159 00:07:46,983 --> 00:07:51,401 >> Reporter: THOSE REPORT CARDS WERE COLOR-CODED-- GREEN FOR 160 00:07:51,436 --> 00:07:54,543 PRODUCTIVE DENTISTS, RED FOR THOSE WHO FAILED TO HIT THEIR 161 00:07:54,577 --> 00:07:56,510 NUMBERS. 162 00:07:56,545 --> 00:07:59,686 >> THEY WOULD PUT UP TARGET SHEETS SAYING, "LAST WEEK, YOU 163 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,170 PRODUCED $5,000 ON MONDAY. 164 00:08:01,204 --> 00:08:04,311 THIS COMING WEEK, WE'D LIKE YOU TO PRODUCE $6,000." 165 00:08:04,345 --> 00:08:08,695 IF THEY DIDN'T MEET THE NUMBERS, THEY WERE OUT THE DOOR. 166 00:08:08,729 --> 00:08:10,455 THIS WAS PURELY PRODUCTION. 167 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:11,974 THIS WAS CHASING A BONUS. 168 00:08:12,008 --> 00:08:13,216 AND... 169 00:08:13,251 --> 00:08:15,909 >> Reporter: "CHASING A BONUS" BECAUSE THE DENTISTS WERE PAID 170 00:08:15,943 --> 00:08:17,358 ACCORDING TO HOW THEY WORKED? 171 00:08:17,393 --> 00:08:21,362 >> YES. 172 00:08:21,397 --> 00:08:24,814 AND I WAS WATCHING SOME OF THE DENTISTS GETTING $5,000 TO 173 00:08:24,849 --> 00:08:30,268 $10,000 A MONTH IN PRODUCTION BONUS. 174 00:08:30,302 --> 00:08:33,513 >> [ BABY CRYING] >> Reporter: TAKE A LOOK AT 175 00:08:33,547 --> 00:08:34,755 THIS. 176 00:08:34,790 --> 00:08:38,759 KOOL SMILES USED A TYPE OF THESE SO-CALLED PAPOOSE BOARDS THAT 177 00:08:38,794 --> 00:08:41,969 COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE PHYSICAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM. 178 00:08:42,004 --> 00:08:46,664 KOOL SMILES SAYS THEY WERE USED IN ONLY 1.5% OF CASES, BUT DR. 179 00:08:46,698 --> 00:08:50,288 GREENWALD AND OTHER WHISTLE- BLOWERS DISAGREE AND SAY KOOL 180 00:08:50,322 --> 00:08:52,566 SMILES USED THEM MUCH MORE THAN NECESSARY. 181 00:08:52,601 --> 00:08:55,914 >> IMAGINE A BURRITO MADE OF VELCRO. 182 00:08:55,949 --> 00:09:00,436 IT'S A LONG, NARROW BOARD THAT HAS FABRIC COMING FROM BOTH 183 00:09:00,470 --> 00:09:03,922 SIDES. 184 00:09:03,957 --> 00:09:09,721 THE CHILD, IN ORDER TO MANAGE THEM, IS LAID DOWN ON THE BOARD, 185 00:09:09,756 --> 00:09:13,587 AND THE TWO SHEETS OF VELCRO ARE FOLDED OVER. 186 00:09:13,622 --> 00:09:16,314 AND AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE SORT OF, LIKE, MUMMIFIED. 187 00:09:16,348 --> 00:09:18,454 >> Reporter: HAVE YOU EVER USED IT? 188 00:09:18,488 --> 00:09:19,697 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 189 00:09:19,731 --> 00:09:22,389 NO. 190 00:09:22,423 --> 00:09:27,014 >> Reporter: I HEAR THAT KOOL SMILES HAD HAIR DRYERS AVAILABLE 191 00:09:27,049 --> 00:09:29,499 IN THEIR TREATMENT ROOMS FOR PATIENTS. 192 00:09:29,534 --> 00:09:33,158 CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THEY WOULD HAVE HAIR DRYERS? 193 00:09:33,193 --> 00:09:38,923 >> SMALL CHILDREN IN A PANIC STAGE, IT'S NOT UNKNOWN FOR THEM 194 00:09:38,957 --> 00:09:41,650 TO OFTENTIMES URINATE THEMSELVES. 195 00:09:41,684 --> 00:09:44,998 HAIRDRYER WAS THERE TO DRY THEM OFF. 196 00:09:45,032 --> 00:09:51,625 >> Reporter: GREENWALD SAYS WHILE THE USE OF HAIR DRYERS AND 197 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:54,663 PAPOOSE BOARDS WAS QUESTIONABLE, HIS BIG FEAR WAS THAT SOMEONE 198 00:09:54,697 --> 00:09:56,112 WOULD REALLY GET HURT. 199 00:09:56,147 --> 00:09:58,252 THE STAKES COULD NOT HAVE BEEN HIGHER. 200 00:09:58,287 --> 00:10:00,254 >> 911, WHAT IS THE ADDRESS OF YOUR EMERGENCY? 201 00:10:00,289 --> 00:10:01,497 >> I'M AT KOOL SMILES. 202 00:10:01,531 --> 00:10:02,636 >> YOU NEED POLICE OR MEDICAL? 203 00:10:02,671 --> 00:10:04,742 >> MEDICAL. 204 00:10:14,475 --> 00:10:16,995 >> Reporter: DR. MICHAEL GREENWALD SAYS DEMANDS AT KOOL 205 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:21,759 SMILES WERE DANGEROUS, DENTISTS TREATING CHILDREN IN ASSEMBLY 206 00:10:21,793 --> 00:10:24,071 LINE FASHION. 207 00:10:24,106 --> 00:10:26,798 >> THE FASTER YOU WORK, THE SLOPPIER YOU CAN GET, AND YOU 208 00:10:26,833 --> 00:10:30,215 RUN THE RISK OF INJURING THE CHILD. 209 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:33,529 MAYBE SLIPPING WITH THE HIGH- SPEED DRILL, CUTTING THEIR 210 00:10:33,563 --> 00:10:34,737 CHEEK, CUTTING THEIR TONGUE. 211 00:10:34,772 --> 00:10:39,293 >> I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO ENDING TO THIS. 212 00:10:39,328 --> 00:10:42,745 I FELT LIKE A SLAVE, AND HUMILIATED EVERYDAY. 213 00:10:42,780 --> 00:10:45,783 >> Reporter: DR. RAI SAYS KOOL SMILES REQUIRED ITS NEW 214 00:10:45,817 --> 00:10:49,614 EMPLOYEES TO SIGN AN IRON-CLAD EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT THAT MADE IT 215 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,030 ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO QUIT. 216 00:10:52,065 --> 00:10:54,654 >> IF I BREAK OUT OF MY CONTRACT, I CAN'T JUST LEAVE 217 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:56,828 BECAUSE THEY'LL SUE US. 218 00:10:56,863 --> 00:10:59,348 IT'S A HUGE CORPORATION WITH LAWYERS. 219 00:10:59,382 --> 00:11:02,489 THE INTIMIDATION IS THERE. 220 00:11:02,523 --> 00:11:05,319 WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEM $500 A DAY IF WE LEFT. 221 00:11:05,354 --> 00:11:08,115 >> Reporter: $500 EVERY DAY? 222 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:11,740 >> EVERY DAY FOR 60 DAYS IF I DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE NOTICE. 223 00:11:11,774 --> 00:11:15,813 IT'S THE FEAR FACTOR EVERYBODY FEEDS ON. 224 00:11:15,847 --> 00:11:19,471 >> Reporter: HOW DID THAT AFFECT YOUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS? 225 00:11:19,506 --> 00:11:25,995 >> IT'S ALREADY HURT ME AND MY LOVED ONES, SO I'VE BEEN IN MY 226 00:11:26,030 --> 00:11:28,653 OWN HEALING PHASE RIGHT NOW. 227 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:32,174 IT HAS AFFECTED PROFOUNDLY. 228 00:11:32,208 --> 00:11:35,625 >> Reporter: DR. RAI FINALLY BUCKLED UNDER THE PRESSURE TO 229 00:11:35,660 --> 00:11:37,489 HIT HER DAILY QUOTAS. 230 00:11:37,524 --> 00:11:40,320 AFTER LESS THAN TWO YEARS AT KOOL SMILES, SHE GAVE HER 231 00:11:40,354 --> 00:11:41,770 NOTICE. 232 00:11:41,804 --> 00:11:44,013 SHE WANTED OUT. 233 00:11:44,048 --> 00:11:48,052 BUT BEFORE THAT TIME WAS UP, DR. RAI STOOD HER GROUND. 234 00:11:48,086 --> 00:11:51,538 SHE OBJECTED TO THE DECISION TO CLEAN A CHILD'S TEETH BECAUSE 235 00:11:51,572 --> 00:11:54,644 SHE SAYS HE HAD A SERIOUS INJURY. 236 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,717 >> HE WAS BIT BY A PIT BULL JUST A WEEK BEFORE, AND THE CHILD 237 00:11:57,751 --> 00:12:00,029 COULD NOT OPEN THEIR MOUTH. 238 00:12:00,064 --> 00:12:02,860 THIS CHILD HAD STITCHES EXTERNALLY AND INTERNALLY, AND I 239 00:12:02,894 --> 00:12:06,415 COULDN'T DO AN EXAM ON THE CHILD. 240 00:12:06,449 --> 00:12:08,624 AND THEN, I DISMISSED THE PATIENT. 241 00:12:08,658 --> 00:12:11,627 >> Reporter: DID YOU GET SOME BLOWBACK FROM KOOL SMILES 242 00:12:11,661 --> 00:12:13,905 BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CONTINUE WITH TREATING THE PATIENT AND BILLING 243 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:14,595 FOR IT? 244 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:15,735 >> YES. 245 00:12:15,769 --> 00:12:18,151 THE HYGIENIST WENT AND COMPLAINED. 246 00:12:18,185 --> 00:12:21,844 I WAS LET GO ON THAT DAY. 247 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:25,675 >> Reporter: DR. RAI'S LIFELONG DREAM TO BE A DENTIST WAS 248 00:12:25,710 --> 00:12:27,056 COLLAPSING. 249 00:12:27,091 --> 00:12:28,955 SHE FELT LIKE A FAILURE. 250 00:12:28,989 --> 00:12:30,646 HER MARRIAGE WAS IMPLODING. 251 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:33,925 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE STRESS FROM WORKING AT KOOL SMILES 252 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:34,892 BROKE UP YOUR MARRIAGE? 253 00:12:34,926 --> 00:12:36,583 >> YES. 254 00:12:36,617 --> 00:12:40,173 MOST DEFINITELY. 255 00:12:40,207 --> 00:12:44,833 >> Reporter: NOW A SINGLE MOM WITHOUT A JOB, DR. RAI WAS IN 256 00:12:44,867 --> 00:12:47,318 SURVIVAL MODE. 257 00:12:47,352 --> 00:12:52,185 SHE FOUND PART-TIME WORK AS A DENTIST BUT WAS HAUNTED BY THE 258 00:12:52,219 --> 00:12:54,532 MISTREATMENT OF THE KIDS SHE SAW AT KOOL SMILES. 259 00:12:54,566 --> 00:12:56,085 >> I WAS NOT HAPPY. 260 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,122 I USED TO BE A VERY PATIENT PERSON. 261 00:12:58,156 --> 00:13:00,227 I WOULD NOT SNAP. 262 00:13:00,262 --> 00:13:02,609 I STARTED SNAPPING. 263 00:13:02,643 --> 00:13:07,338 >> Reporter: SHE WAS DETERMINED TO TAKE ACTION AND TURNED TO A 264 00:13:07,372 --> 00:13:09,581 LAWYER FOR HELP. 265 00:13:09,616 --> 00:13:14,172 ATTORNEY DAN MILLER TOLD HER SHE HAD A STRONG CASE AS A 266 00:13:14,207 --> 00:13:15,553 WHISTLEBLOWER. 267 00:13:15,587 --> 00:13:18,176 IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHAT IS A WHISTLEBLOWER SUIT? 268 00:13:18,211 --> 00:13:21,421 >> WHISTLEBLOWER SUIT IS A MATTER IN WHICH A PERSON WHO HAS 269 00:13:21,455 --> 00:13:26,460 INSIDE INFORMATION ABOUT A FRAUD COMES FORWARD AND ON BEHALF OF 270 00:13:26,495 --> 00:13:30,361 THE GOVERNMENT, AND THEY SEEK TO GET THE GOVERNMENT'S MONEY BACK 271 00:13:30,395 --> 00:13:31,638 BY SUING THE FRAUDSTER. 272 00:13:31,672 --> 00:13:34,020 >> Reporter: GIVE ME THE SPIEL THAT YOU WOULD GIVE TO A CLIENT 273 00:13:34,054 --> 00:13:36,332 WHO IS A PROSPECTIVE WHISTLEBLOWER WITH YOU. 274 00:13:36,367 --> 00:13:38,679 >> WE WOULD CAUTION THE PERSON OF THE RISKS OF BEING A 275 00:13:38,714 --> 00:13:40,095 WHISTLEBLOWER. 276 00:13:40,129 --> 00:13:43,270 IT CAN COST THEM THEIR CAREER. 277 00:13:43,305 --> 00:13:45,238 IT'S VERYSTRESSFUL. 278 00:13:45,272 --> 00:13:55,075 AND THE WHISTLEBLOWER, THEY CAN BE SUED BY THEIR EX-EMPLOYER. 279 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:57,975 >> Reporter: DR. RAI STILL HAD STUDENT LOANS AND KNEW THAT 280 00:13:58,009 --> 00:14:02,842 STANDING UP TO A MULTIMILLION- DOLLAR CORPORATION LIKE KOOL 281 00:14:02,876 --> 00:14:04,015 SMILES COULD END HER CAREER. 282 00:14:04,050 --> 00:14:06,259 BUT SHE WAS WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK. 283 00:14:06,293 --> 00:14:08,882 >> THE CORPORATE DENTISTS, THEY MAY SEE YOU AS A TRAITOR. 284 00:14:08,917 --> 00:14:12,886 YOU MAY LOSE FRIENDS FOR NOT SHARING THIS INFORMATION. 285 00:14:12,921 --> 00:14:15,509 ONCE THIS EXPERIENCE HAS HAPPENED, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE 286 00:14:15,544 --> 00:14:18,098 IT WITH YOU THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE. 287 00:14:18,133 --> 00:14:19,686 IT IS GOING TO CHANGE YOU. 288 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,240 IT IS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. 289 00:14:22,275 --> 00:14:25,450 SO, EITHER YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR YOU CAN KEEP THE 290 00:14:25,485 --> 00:14:27,418 EXPERIENCE WITHIN YOURSELF. 291 00:14:27,452 --> 00:14:32,319 YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE IF YOU COME FORWARD. 292 00:14:32,354 --> 00:14:37,497 >> Reporter: BY THE TIME DR. RAI FILED HER WHISTLEBLOWER LAWSUIT 293 00:14:37,531 --> 00:14:40,914 IN TEXAS, DR. GREENWALD HAD ALREADY GATHERED THE GOODS ON 294 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:42,329 KOOL SMILES. 295 00:14:42,364 --> 00:14:43,710 >> THANK GOD FOR TECHNOLOGY. 296 00:14:43,744 --> 00:14:48,128 I COULD LOOK AT MY COWORKER'S PATIENT'S X-RAYS AND CHARTS. 297 00:14:48,163 --> 00:14:52,581 I COULD ALSO DIGITALLY TRAVEL TO OTHER OFFICES ACROSS THE STATE 298 00:14:52,615 --> 00:14:54,928 OR ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 299 00:14:54,963 --> 00:15:01,176 I JUST STARTED BRINGING UP THE CHARTS OF SOME OF MY CO-WORKERS. 300 00:15:01,210 --> 00:15:05,559 >> Reporter: HE HAD SECRETLY BECOME A DENTAL DETECTIVE, 301 00:15:05,594 --> 00:15:08,183 KNOWING HE COULD BE FIRED OR SUED. 302 00:15:08,217 --> 00:15:13,533 SO, FOR SIX MONTHS, YOU BASICALLY WERE WORKING 303 00:15:13,567 --> 00:15:17,157 UNDERCOVER, SO TO SPEAK, TO BUILD YOUR WHISTLEBLOWER CASE? 304 00:15:17,192 --> 00:15:18,262 >> I WANTED TO STOP THIS. 305 00:15:18,296 --> 00:15:21,506 IT WAS INSANE. 306 00:15:21,541 --> 00:15:22,956 PICK ON SOMEONE YOUR OWN SIZE. 307 00:15:22,991 --> 00:15:26,097 YOU'RE STEALING MONEY FROM EVERY TAXPAYER IN THIS COUNTRY BY 308 00:15:26,132 --> 00:15:28,168 COMMITTING FRAUD. 309 00:15:28,203 --> 00:15:31,965 ADD TO THAT, YOU'RE PICKING ON FIVE-YEAR-OLDS? 310 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,761 >> Reporter: GREENWALD'S ATTORNEY FILED THIS 42-PAGE 311 00:15:34,795 --> 00:15:36,901 COMPLAINT ALLEGING MEDICAID FRAUD. 312 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:39,421 TWO MONTHS LATER, THE DENTIST EAGERLY MET WITH FEDERAL AGENTS 313 00:15:39,455 --> 00:15:41,768 TO SHARE THE EVIDENCE HE'D COLLECTED. 314 00:15:41,802 --> 00:15:44,150 >> THEY TOOK OVER THE CASE THAT I HAD PRESENTED AND DECIDED TO 315 00:15:44,184 --> 00:15:49,051 MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS THEY FELT IT WAS JUSTIFIED. 316 00:15:49,086 --> 00:15:53,090 I DILIGENTLY MAINTAINED SOME RECORDS OF NAMES, DATES, TIMES, 317 00:15:53,124 --> 00:15:56,783 PROCEDURES. 318 00:15:56,817 --> 00:15:59,613 >> Reporter: SHOWING THAT PROCEDURES WERE DONE THAT MAYBE 319 00:15:59,648 --> 00:16:02,375 WEREN'T WARRANTED, SHOWING THE CULTURE AT KOOL SMILES THAT WAS 320 00:16:02,409 --> 00:16:03,341 PRODUCE, PRODUCE, PRODUCE? 321 00:16:03,376 --> 00:16:04,618 >> YES. 322 00:16:04,653 --> 00:16:07,069 I DIDN'T WANT TO BASE THIS ON JUST PURE HEARSAY. 323 00:16:07,104 --> 00:16:10,383 I WANTED TO SAY, "LOOK AT THIS DATE, LOOK AT THIS OFFICE." 324 00:16:10,417 --> 00:16:14,007 I STARTED PULLING UP RECORD NAMES FROM NEW MEXICO AND 325 00:16:14,042 --> 00:16:19,185 ARIZONA AND MARYLAND AND VIRGINIA AND TEXAS AND GEORGIA. 326 00:16:19,219 --> 00:16:23,189 AND I REALIZED, "OH, MY GOD, THIS IS PERVASIVE THROUGHOUT THE 327 00:16:23,223 --> 00:16:27,676 ENTIRE SYSTEM." 328 00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:32,198 >> Reporter: ON DECEMBER 16, 2017, DR. GREENWALD'S WORST 329 00:16:32,232 --> 00:16:34,614 NIGHTMARE CAME TRUE. 330 00:16:34,648 --> 00:16:38,549 THAT'S THE DAY JOSEPH GASTELUM AND VERONICA DE LOS REYES TOOK 331 00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:43,933 THEIR SON, ZION, TO A KOOL SMILES CLINIC IN YUMA, ARIZONA. 332 00:16:43,968 --> 00:16:46,902 HE WAS JUST TWO YEARS OLD. 333 00:16:56,153 --> 00:16:59,915 >> ZION, HE'S... HE'S PERFECT. 334 00:16:59,949 --> 00:17:02,642 SAY THANKS! 335 00:17:02,676 --> 00:17:04,057 HE'S SO BEAUTIFUL. 336 00:17:04,092 --> 00:17:05,852 HE'S SO HANDSOME. 337 00:17:05,886 --> 00:17:09,373 A REAL HANDSOME BABY! 338 00:17:09,407 --> 00:17:13,584 HE WENT FOR CLEANINGS AND CHECKUPS TWICE. 339 00:17:13,618 --> 00:17:18,692 THEY SAID HIS TWO FRONT TEETH WERE, LIKE, GETTING BAD, SO THAT 340 00:17:18,727 --> 00:17:20,487 HE NEEDED TO GET THEM CROWNED. 341 00:17:20,522 --> 00:17:21,626 YOU COULD KIND OF SEE IT. 342 00:17:21,661 --> 00:17:23,904 >> THEY WANTED TO PREVENT IT FROM GETTING WORSE. 343 00:17:23,939 --> 00:17:25,182 >> YEAH. 344 00:17:25,216 --> 00:17:27,391 >> SO, OF COURSE, WE WANT THE BEST FOR HIM, SO WE SAID, "OKAY, 345 00:17:27,425 --> 00:17:28,633 LET'S DO IT." 346 00:17:28,668 --> 00:17:31,498 >> SO, HE WAS KIND OF SCARED, BUT I TOLD HIM HE WAS GOING TO 347 00:17:31,533 --> 00:17:34,087 BE OKAY. 348 00:17:34,122 --> 00:17:36,607 >> Reporter: VERONICA SAYS THE ANESTHESIOLOGIST PUT A MASK ON 349 00:17:36,641 --> 00:17:37,987 ZION. 350 00:17:38,022 --> 00:17:39,541 >> HE FELL ASLEEP. 351 00:17:39,575 --> 00:17:44,580 AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HOOK HIM UP AND GET HIM 352 00:17:44,615 --> 00:17:47,618 READY TO DO THE WORK, SO TO GIVE HIM A KISS AND TO GO WAIT IN THE 353 00:17:47,652 --> 00:17:49,206 WAITING ROOM. 354 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,969 [ CRYING] IT ACTUALLY WAS, LIKE, AN HOUR 355 00:17:54,003 --> 00:17:56,903 BEFORE THEY CALLED ME, AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT 356 00:17:56,937 --> 00:17:58,836 HIM. 357 00:17:58,870 --> 00:18:01,873 AND I NOTICED THAT HIS CHEST WASN'T MOVING, LIKE TO BREATHE. 358 00:18:01,908 --> 00:18:04,290 >> 911, WHAT'S YOUR EMERGENCY? 359 00:18:04,324 --> 00:18:05,912 >> I AM AT KOOL SMILES. 360 00:18:05,946 --> 00:18:12,298 WE HAVE A CHILD THAT... HE'S NOT... NOT RESPONSIVE. 361 00:18:12,332 --> 00:18:18,442 >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO POLICE REPORTS, AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST 362 00:18:18,476 --> 00:18:23,067 ATTEMPTED TO REVIVE ZION, BUT COULDN'T. 363 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:28,555 >> AND HE NEVER CAME OUT OF THAT PLACE OKAY. 364 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:32,801 HE NEVER WOKE UP. 365 00:18:37,564 --> 00:18:42,121 >> Reporter: KOOL SMILES DENTISTS WORKED ON MUCH MORE 366 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:44,744 THAN ZION GASTELUM'S TWO FRONT TEETH. 367 00:18:44,778 --> 00:18:47,919 IN THE END, HE HAD SIX STAINLESS STEEL CROWNS AND THREE BABY ROOT 368 00:18:47,954 --> 00:18:49,507 CANALS. 369 00:18:49,542 --> 00:18:54,236 ZION GASTELUM WAS DEAD, BUT KOOL SMILES STILL SENT MEDICAID A 370 00:18:54,271 --> 00:18:58,758 BILL FOR $2,604. 371 00:18:58,792 --> 00:18:59,931 >> THEY'RE JUST MONEY HUNGRY. 372 00:18:59,966 --> 00:19:01,485 THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU. 373 00:19:01,519 --> 00:19:02,865 THEY WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES. 374 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:06,179 >> EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO OUR SON SO IT 375 00:19:06,214 --> 00:19:09,044 DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ELSE. 376 00:19:09,078 --> 00:19:11,598 THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO WATCH MY SON. 377 00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:17,086 THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF HIM, AND THEY DIDN'T. 378 00:19:17,121 --> 00:19:20,331 AND NOW HE'S GONE, AND HE WAS ONLY TWO. 379 00:19:20,366 --> 00:19:24,715 [ CRYING] >> Reporter: THE AUTOPSY REPORT 380 00:19:24,749 --> 00:19:28,546 CLASSIFIED THE CAUSE AND MANNER OF ZION'S DEATH AS UNDETERMINED. 381 00:19:28,581 --> 00:19:33,862 HIS HEARTBROKEN PARENTS INTEND TO SUE KOOL SMILES. 382 00:19:33,896 --> 00:19:43,872 IN A STATEMENT TO CBS, KOOL SMILES WROTE: 383 00:19:43,906 --> 00:19:54,054 IN A STATEMENT TO CBS, KOOL SMILES WROTE: 384 00:19:54,089 --> 00:19:57,610 DR. RAI AND DR. GREENWALD'S WHISTLEBLOWER LAWSUITS WERE 385 00:19:57,644 --> 00:19:59,957 FILED BEFORE ZION'S DEATH. 386 00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:03,961 SIX OTHER KOOL SMILES EMPLOYEES, CONCERNED FOR CHILDREN'S SAFETY, 387 00:20:03,995 --> 00:20:07,585 ALSO BLEW THE WHISTLE. 388 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:10,933 THEY WERE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL. 389 00:20:10,968 --> 00:20:15,248 >> I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO FOLLOW MY CONSCIENCE AND FOLLOW 390 00:20:15,283 --> 00:20:17,733 THE TRUTH, WHATEVER PRICE IT MAY BE. 391 00:20:17,768 --> 00:20:19,770 >> THEIR BIGGEST MISTAKE WAS HIRING ME. 392 00:20:29,849 --> 00:20:31,437 >> Reporter: I'M ALEX FERRER. 393 00:20:31,471 --> 00:20:37,236 THIS IS "WHISTLEBLOWER." 394 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:41,412 DR. RAI SPENT YEARS WORKING AS A PART-TIME DENTIST IN TEXAS AS 395 00:20:41,447 --> 00:20:43,656 SHE STRUGGLED TO MAKE ENDS MEET. 396 00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:47,142 DR. GREENWALD WENT BACK INTO PRIVATE PRACTICE. 397 00:20:47,176 --> 00:20:50,801 NEITHER DENTIST HAD ANY REGRETS ABOUT TAKING ON KOOL SMILES. 398 00:20:50,835 --> 00:20:54,080 >> I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. 399 00:20:54,114 --> 00:20:57,670 JUST THE MACHINE OF THE FEDERAL SYSTEM CONFUSED ME. 400 00:20:57,704 --> 00:21:01,743 THESE PEOPLE PUT EVERYTHING INTO IT-- THOUSANDS OF MAN HOURS, 401 00:21:01,777 --> 00:21:05,367 MILLIONS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION. 402 00:21:05,402 --> 00:21:09,440 THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 403 00:21:09,475 --> 00:21:12,685 >> Reporter: THE WHISTLEBLOWERS HAD NO IDEA IF THEY WOULD GET 404 00:21:12,719 --> 00:21:16,309 ANYTHING AT ALL FROM THEIR LAWSUITS UNTIL 2018. 405 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:18,760 NEARLY TEN YEARS AFTER THE CASE BEGAN, THEIR WAIT WAS FINALLY 406 00:21:18,794 --> 00:21:20,555 OVER. 407 00:21:20,589 --> 00:21:24,144 KOOL SMILES SETTLED, AGREEING TO PAY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT $24 408 00:21:24,179 --> 00:21:29,218 MILLION FOR ALLEGED MEDICAID FRAUD. 409 00:21:29,253 --> 00:21:32,912 DR. RAI, DR. GREENWALD AND THE SIX WHISTLEBLOWERS SPLIT 410 00:21:32,946 --> 00:21:37,226 $4 MILLION OF THAT. 411 00:21:37,261 --> 00:21:39,539 KOOL SMILES PAID THE MONEY, BUT ADMITTED NO WRONGDOING. 412 00:21:39,574 --> 00:21:41,472 >> "WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, BUT HERE'S $24 MILLION." 413 00:21:41,507 --> 00:21:42,887 PLEASE. 414 00:21:42,922 --> 00:21:46,650 YOU'RE JUST NOT ADMITTING TO IT, THAT'S ALL. 415 00:21:46,684 --> 00:21:50,309 >> Reporter: THIS DEVOTED DENTIST WHO GREW UP IN INDIA IS 416 00:21:50,343 --> 00:21:54,313 NOW LIVING IN A REMOTE PART OF ALASKA, PRACTICING HER PASSION. 417 00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:59,352 SHE IS CONTENT NOW, RAISING HER DAUGHTER A WORLD AWAY FROM THAT 418 00:21:59,387 --> 00:22:04,219 KOOL SMILES CLINIC IN AMARILLO, TEXAS. 419 00:22:04,253 --> 00:22:08,672 >> MY LIFE NOW IS VERY PEACEFUL. 420 00:22:08,706 --> 00:22:11,226 RURAL ALASKA HERE, LIFE IS SLOW. 421 00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:14,194 LIFE IS NOT ABOUT THAT MUCH PRESSURE. 422 00:22:14,229 --> 00:22:17,025 >> Reporter: SHE IS HAPPY AT HER NEW JOB, WORKING IN A NATIVE 423 00:22:17,059 --> 00:22:18,475 AMERICAN HEALTH CLINIC. 424 00:22:18,509 --> 00:22:20,891 >> HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? 425 00:22:20,925 --> 00:22:24,446 WE SEE OUR PATIENTS AND GIVE THEM THE BEST POSSIBLE SERVICE 426 00:22:24,481 --> 00:22:27,932 THAT WE CAN WITHOUT ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 427 00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:30,901 THERE'S NO BONUS SYSTEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET HERE. 428 00:22:30,935 --> 00:22:36,838 THERE'S NO NUMBERS I NEED TO HIT. 429 00:22:36,872 --> 00:22:38,702 >> I DID SOMETHING GOOD. 430 00:22:38,736 --> 00:22:41,567 EVERYBODY OUGHT TO TRY THAT. 431 00:22:41,601 --> 00:22:47,400 MY DAUGHTER'S NOT GOING TO, IN ANOTHER 30 YEARS, LOOK AT HER 432 00:22:47,435 --> 00:22:53,717 CHILDREN AND SAY, "YEAH, YOU'RE GRANDPA WAS A DENTIST." 433 00:22:53,751 --> 00:23:01,621 SHE'S GOING TO SAY, "YOUR GRANDPA DID SOMETHING GOOD." 434 00:23:01,656 --> 00:23:06,281 I'M PROUD. 435 00:23:06,315 --> 00:23:10,009 >> Reporter: AND IF GIVEN A CHOICE, DR. GREENWALD SAYS HE 436 00:23:10,043 --> 00:23:12,460 WOULD BLOW THE WHISTLE ALL OVER AGAIN. 437 00:23:12,494 --> 00:23:13,702 >> WAS IT WORTH IT? 438 00:23:13,737 --> 00:23:15,635 ABSOLUTELY. 439 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:17,361 DID I WANT TO SEE THEM PUNISH KOOL SMILES? 440 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:19,432 YES. 441 00:23:19,467 --> 00:23:21,607 DID I WANT TO SEE THEM SHUT DOWN KOOL SMILES? 442 00:23:21,641 --> 00:23:23,367 NO. 443 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,300 >> Reporter: WHY NOT? 444 00:23:25,334 --> 00:23:28,061 >> THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DENTISTS OUT THERE THAT WILL TREAT 445 00:23:28,096 --> 00:23:32,238 MEDICAID. 446 00:23:32,272 --> 00:23:35,379 IT'S 120 OFFICES, TIMES HOW MANY CHILDREN EACH ONE SEES. 447 00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:38,417 YOU ARE REMOVING ACCESS. 448 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:42,628 SO, DO YOU DESTROY ACCESS TO CARE FOR THE SAKE OF PUNISHING A 449 00:23:42,662 --> 00:23:43,974 COMPANY? 450 00:23:44,008 --> 00:23:46,010 NO. 451 00:23:46,045 --> 00:23:49,117 >> Reporter: WE REPEATEDLY ASKED KOOL SMILES FOR AN ON-CAMERA 452 00:23:49,151 --> 00:23:51,671 INTERVIEW, BUT THE COMPANY NEVER AGREED TO ONE. 453 00:23:51,706 --> 00:24:01,785 IN A STATEMENT, KOOL SMILES WROTE: 454 00:24:01,819 --> 00:24:07,238 IN A STATEMENT, KOOL SMILES WROTE: 455 00:24:07,273 --> 00:24:09,724 WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO THE OWNERS OF KOOL SMILES? 456 00:24:09,758 --> 00:24:12,209 >> I'M NOT GOING TO STOP. 457 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:17,007 SOME PEOPLE ARE CHEERING THE YANKEES; I'M CHEERING THE... THE 458 00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:20,528 FEDS FOR NAILING THIS PERSON FOR FRAUD AND NAILING THAT ONE. 459 00:24:20,562 --> 00:24:24,601 AND I'M REALIZING, "OH, MY GOD, IT'S LIKE IF I COULD HAVE A 460 00:24:24,635 --> 00:24:27,604 CAREER CHANGE TOMORROW, I'D GO TO WORK FOR THEM." 461 00:24:27,638 --> 00:24:29,916 I WANT TO CATCH THE BAD GUYS. 462 00:24:29,951 --> 00:24:31,055 AND YOU KNOW WHAT? 463 00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:33,920 I DID. 464 00:24:33,955 --> 00:24:36,958 >> Reporter: SOME WHISTLEBLOWER CASES INVOLVE HUNDREDS OF 465 00:24:36,992 --> 00:24:38,235 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 466 00:24:38,269 --> 00:24:40,513 WHEN YOUR DOCTOR PRESCRIBES A DRUG, IS IT BASED ON WHAT'S BEST 467 00:24:40,548 --> 00:24:42,204 FOR YOUR HEALTH? 468 00:24:42,239 --> 00:24:45,000 OR HAS THE DOCTOR'S DECISION BEEN INFLUENCED BY KICKBACKS 469 00:24:45,035 --> 00:24:48,245 FROM A DRUG COMPANY? 470 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:52,525 MYCHAL WILSON WAS A YOUNG, AMBITIOUS PHARMACEUTICAL SALES 471 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,253 REP FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. 472 00:24:56,287 --> 00:24:59,359 >> WALKING TO SOCCER PRACTICE, PASSING THE UNITED STATES 473 00:24:59,394 --> 00:25:01,879 SUPREME COURT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS SEE THE 474 00:25:01,914 --> 00:25:05,676 WORDS: EQUALITY, JUSTICE. 475 00:25:05,711 --> 00:25:08,783 >> Reporter: HE DIDN'T IMAGINE HIMSELF A SALESMAN WHEN HE FIRST 476 00:25:08,817 --> 00:25:11,751 MOVED TO LOS ANGELES IN THE EARLY '90s. 477 00:25:11,786 --> 00:25:14,133 HE WAS JUST ONE MORE ASPIRING ACTOR. 478 00:25:14,167 --> 00:25:16,722 >> I WAS IN SOME TV ROLES LIKE HOWARD STERN, "SON OF THE 479 00:25:16,756 --> 00:25:20,346 BEACH." 480 00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:21,830 >> OKAY, CHAD, HOW !¡BOUT BUFFY? 481 00:25:21,865 --> 00:25:24,971 [ LAUGHTER] >> Reporter: WERE YOU ABLE TO 482 00:25:25,006 --> 00:25:25,938 SUPPORT YOURSELF ON ACTING? 483 00:25:25,972 --> 00:25:27,077 >> UH, NO. 484 00:25:27,111 --> 00:25:29,493 >> Reporter: THAT'S WHY HE TOOK A JOB IN PHARMA SALES. 485 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,806 >> I SOLD SKIN MEDICINES. 486 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,017 I SOLD EYE DROPS FOR BACTERIAL CONJUNCTIVITIS. 487 00:25:36,051 --> 00:25:38,606 AND THEN, THE V.E.D., WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE VACUUM ERECTION 488 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,710 DEVICE. 489 00:25:39,745 --> 00:25:40,849 >> Reporter: I'M SORRY? 490 00:25:40,884 --> 00:25:42,955 >> THE V.E.D., VACUUM ERECTION DEVICE. 491 00:25:42,989 --> 00:25:44,163 >> Reporter: VACUUM ERECTION. 492 00:25:44,197 --> 00:25:45,267 >> SO, THIS IS PRE-VIAGRA. 493 00:25:45,302 --> 00:25:46,855 [ LAUGHS] >> Reporter: WHAT IS A VACUUM 494 00:25:46,890 --> 00:25:47,822 ERECTION DEVICE? 495 00:25:47,856 --> 00:25:49,513 >> [ LAUGHS] I HAVE ONE BACK THERE. 496 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,929 I CAN BRING IT FOR SHOW AND TELL, IF YOU WANT. 497 00:25:51,964 --> 00:25:53,724 >> Reporter: I'D RATHER YOU DIDN'T, BUT... 498 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:56,485 [ LAUGHS] I'M CUR... I'M... I'M HALF 499 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,280 SCARED TO ASK YOU THE PITCH AND CURIOUS ON THE OTHER HAND. 500 00:25:58,315 --> 00:25:59,143 SELL A LOT OF THESE? 501 00:25:59,178 --> 00:26:03,078 >> YEAH, I DID, ACTUALLY. 502 00:26:03,113 --> 00:26:05,736 >> Reporter: HE WAS SO GOOD AT HIS NEW ROLE, IN 1998, HE LANDED 503 00:26:05,771 --> 00:26:08,636 A JOB WITH A GIANT: BRISTOL- MYERS SQUIBB. 504 00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:11,155 IT WAS GOOD MONEY COMPARED TO ACTING-- AROUND 40 GRAND PLUS 505 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:12,985 PERKS TO START. 506 00:26:13,019 --> 00:26:16,402 HIS SPECIALTY: MARKETING POWERFUL DRUGS THAT NETTED THE 507 00:26:16,436 --> 00:26:20,026 COMPANY BILLIONS. 508 00:26:20,061 --> 00:26:21,718 >> THERE WAS GLUCOPHAGE. 509 00:26:21,752 --> 00:26:23,996 IT'S FOR TYPE-TWO DIABETES. 510 00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:27,620 THEN, THERE WAS PRAVACHOL, WHICH IS A CHOLESTEROL-LOWERING DRUG. 511 00:26:27,655 --> 00:26:30,899 >> Reporter: WILSON SHOWED US WHERE HE PLIED HIS TRADE. 512 00:26:30,934 --> 00:26:32,280 SO, THIS IS CEDARS? 513 00:26:32,314 --> 00:26:37,975 >> THEWORLD FAMOUS CEDARS, CEDARS-SINAI MEDICAL CENTER. 514 00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:40,702 >> Reporter: DID BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB TRAIN YOU ON HOW TO TALK 515 00:26:40,737 --> 00:26:43,360 TO DOCTORS IN... IN PITCHING THEIR DRUGS? 516 00:26:43,394 --> 00:26:44,533 >> OH, YES. 517 00:26:44,568 --> 00:26:45,707 COMPLETELY. 518 00:26:45,742 --> 00:26:47,364 THERE'S A LARGE TRAINING CLASS. 519 00:26:47,398 --> 00:26:50,229 YOU WERE TRAINED ON THE DRUGS, THE DISEASE STATE, THE SALES, 520 00:26:50,263 --> 00:26:51,575 THE MESSAGING. 521 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:54,820 AND THEN, AFTER THAT, ALSO WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU GOT OUT IN THE 522 00:26:54,854 --> 00:26:58,858 FIELD. 523 00:26:58,893 --> 00:27:00,929 YOU PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE PHYSICIAN. 524 00:27:00,964 --> 00:27:02,482 MAYBE YOU'RE DOING SOME LUNCHES. 525 00:27:02,517 --> 00:27:05,037 YOU COULD TAKE THEM TO A LAKERS GAME, A KINGS GAME. 526 00:27:05,071 --> 00:27:07,660 >> Reporter: WILSON WAS EXPECTED TO SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF 527 00:27:07,695 --> 00:27:14,287 DOLLARS A YEAR TO INFLUENCE DOCTORS. 528 00:27:14,322 --> 00:27:15,461 IT WAS A SWEET GIG, AT FIRST. 529 00:27:15,495 --> 00:27:17,497 HOW MUCH WOULD YOU DROP FOR THESE DOCTORS, ENTERTAINING 530 00:27:17,532 --> 00:27:18,809 THEM? 531 00:27:18,844 --> 00:27:20,362 >> YOU KNOW, YOU'D DIVIDE UP THE COST AMONGST MANAGERS AND OTHER 532 00:27:20,397 --> 00:27:21,778 REPS. 533 00:27:21,812 --> 00:27:24,573 SO, SAY, ON MY EXPENSE REPORT, IT MAY ONLY SHOW FOUR OR FIVE 534 00:27:24,608 --> 00:27:27,542 GRAND, BUT THE TOTAL EVENT MAY EVEN BE, LIKE, $15,000 OR 535 00:27:27,576 --> 00:27:29,578 $20,000 TO WINE AND DINE THESE PHYSICIANS. 536 00:27:29,613 --> 00:27:30,718 >> Reporter: FOR A DINNER. 537 00:27:30,752 --> 00:27:32,858 >> FOR A DINNER, YEAH. 538 00:27:32,892 --> 00:27:37,172 >> Reporter: ONE YEAR INTO HIS JOB, THINGS STARTED TO SHIFT 539 00:27:37,207 --> 00:27:40,693 WHEN WILSON TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A GENEROUS COMPANY EDUCATION 540 00:27:40,728 --> 00:27:44,076 BENEFIT, ENROLLING IN LAW SCHOOL AT NIGHT. 541 00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:46,837 >> MY MANAGERS WOULD GET MAD AT ME BECAUSE IT'S "YOU'VE GOT TO 542 00:27:46,872 --> 00:27:49,219 DO A DINNER PROGRAM AT SPAGO OR A.O.C.," OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 543 00:27:49,253 --> 00:27:50,427 >> Reporter: WINE AND DINE THE DOCTORS. 544 00:27:50,461 --> 00:27:51,704 >> YES. 545 00:27:51,739 --> 00:27:53,085 AND "YOU AREN'T DOING YOUR JOB. 546 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,328 WHY WEREN'T YOU AT THE LAKERS GAME LAST NIGHT? 547 00:27:55,363 --> 00:27:58,746 WE HAD THE BOX SUITES." 548 00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:01,058 YOU KNOW, YOU SEE ALL THE STARS UP THERE, LIKE ICE CUBE AND 549 00:28:01,093 --> 00:28:02,577 EVERYTHING. 550 00:28:02,611 --> 00:28:04,752 YOU KNOW, I BECAME A BAD GUY. 551 00:28:04,786 --> 00:28:09,170 MY PARENTS WERE MIDDLE CLASS PARENTS, MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY, 552 00:28:09,204 --> 00:28:11,862 AND THEY SPENT THEIR MONEY ON PRIVATE EDUCATIONS FOR THEIR 553 00:28:11,897 --> 00:28:13,519 SONS. 554 00:28:13,553 --> 00:28:14,658 SO, I WAS LIKE, "THERE'S NO WAY. 555 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:15,901 I'M GOING TO LAW SCHOOL." 556 00:28:15,935 --> 00:28:17,765 AND I WAS KIND OF BASICALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT? 557 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,008 I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE FIRST ATTORNEY IN MY FAMILY, YOU 558 00:28:20,043 --> 00:28:21,216 KNOW. 559 00:28:21,251 --> 00:28:23,667 AND BEING A BLACK AMERICAN, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING. 560 00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:26,187 >> Reporter: AS WILSON LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE LAW, HE STARTED 561 00:28:26,221 --> 00:28:28,983 TO WONDER IF THE COMPANY WAS ASKING HIM TO DO SOMETHING 562 00:28:29,017 --> 00:28:30,570 WRONG. 563 00:28:30,605 --> 00:28:33,746 UNLIKE IN OTHER INDUSTRIES, THE FEDERAL ANTI-KICKBACK STATUTE 564 00:28:33,781 --> 00:28:36,887 PROHIBITS REWARDING DOCTORS IN ORDER TO GET THEM TO PRESCRIBE 565 00:28:36,922 --> 00:28:40,477 SPECIFIC DRUGS TO MEDICARE OR MEDICAID PATIENTS. 566 00:28:40,511 --> 00:28:46,034 WILSON FELT UNEASY, BUT HE NEEDED THE JOB. 567 00:28:46,069 --> 00:28:51,143 >> YOU WERE TO TARGET AND SPEND THE MONEY ON HIGH PRESCRIBERS. 568 00:28:51,177 --> 00:28:54,318 YOU WOULD FIND CERTAIN DOCTORS WHO YOU KNEW WERE SUSCEPTIBLE TO 569 00:28:54,353 --> 00:28:56,873 PERKS OR SWAG, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. 570 00:28:56,907 --> 00:28:59,738 >> Reporter: LAVISH MEALS, EXPENSIVE BOOZE AND CIGARS, GOLF 571 00:28:59,772 --> 00:29:02,430 OUTINGS, CONCERT TICKETS, SWEDISH MASSAGES, EVEN CASH 572 00:29:02,464 --> 00:29:04,121 PAYMENTS. 573 00:29:04,156 --> 00:29:05,122 >> PAY TO PRESCRIBE. 574 00:29:05,157 --> 00:29:06,296 PAY FOR PLAY. 575 00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:07,815 A QUID PRO QUO. 576 00:29:07,849 --> 00:29:09,989 HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT, IT'S A BRIBE. 577 00:29:10,024 --> 00:29:12,681 >> Reporter: AND THE PERKS WEREN'T JUST FOR DOCTORS; WILSON 578 00:29:12,716 --> 00:29:15,512 SAYS HE WAS ENCOURAGED TO CATER LUNCHES FOR THEIR ENTIRE MEDICAL 579 00:29:15,546 --> 00:29:19,378 OFFICE, EVEN BUY THEM BIRTHDAY GIFTS. 580 00:29:19,412 --> 00:29:22,622 >> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, YOU COULD GET INTO THE OFFICE PAST 581 00:29:22,657 --> 00:29:25,453 THE NURSES AND THE OFFICE STAFF, AND GET INTO THE FILE CABINETS. 582 00:29:25,487 --> 00:29:28,076 >> Reporter: BY "FILE CABINETS," MYCHAL WILSON MEANS PATIENT 583 00:29:28,111 --> 00:29:29,215 RECORDS. 584 00:29:29,250 --> 00:29:31,804 LAST TIME I CHECKED, THOSE RECORDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE 585 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,012 CONFIDENTIAL. 586 00:29:33,047 --> 00:29:36,360 BUT WILSON SAYS SALES REPS ENCOURAGED DOCTORS TO GIVE THEM 587 00:29:36,395 --> 00:29:40,330 ACCESS TO PATIENT FILES SO THEY COULD REVIEW THOSE FILES AND 588 00:29:40,364 --> 00:29:43,574 FLAG PATIENTS THE SALES REPS SAID COULD BENEFIT FROM CERTAIN 589 00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:45,749 B.M.S. DRUGS. 590 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:49,373 DID IT START BOTHERING YOU AT SOME POINT THAT THESE PATIENTS 591 00:29:49,408 --> 00:29:52,998 WERE GETTING PRESCRIPTIONS FOR THEIR MEDICAL CARE NOT BECAUSE 592 00:29:53,032 --> 00:29:56,622 THE DOCTOR THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST PRESCRIPTION FOR THEM BUT 593 00:29:56,656 --> 00:29:59,142 BECAUSE, AS YOU SAY, THE DOCTOR WAS BEING BRIBED BY THE 594 00:29:59,176 --> 00:30:01,282 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY TO WRITE THIS PARTICULAR SCRIPT? 595 00:30:01,316 --> 00:30:02,421 >> YES. 596 00:30:02,455 --> 00:30:03,698 I MEAN, IT BOTHERED ME A LOT. 597 00:30:03,732 --> 00:30:04,906 YOU'RE HURTING A PATIENT. 598 00:30:04,941 --> 00:30:07,012 IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG TO PULL PATIENT CHARTS. 599 00:30:07,046 --> 00:30:09,393 IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG TO PUT THESE... SOME OF THESE PATIENTS 600 00:30:09,428 --> 00:30:12,811 ON MEDICATIONS WHICH YOU KNEW THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE ON OR 601 00:30:12,845 --> 00:30:15,054 THAT THE COMPETITORS' DRUGS ACTUALLY MAY BE BETTER FOR THE 602 00:30:15,089 --> 00:30:19,369 PATIENTS. 603 00:30:19,403 --> 00:30:20,957 >> Reporter: RIGHT. 604 00:30:20,991 --> 00:30:24,719 >> THESE ARE THE... THE BACK STAIRS THAT WE USED TO TAKE OVER 605 00:30:24,753 --> 00:30:29,724 HERE FROM FLOOR TO FLOOR, DOCTOR TO DOCTOR, FILE CABINET TO FILE 606 00:30:29,758 --> 00:30:32,589 CABINET TO GET THOSE PATIENT CHARTS. 607 00:30:32,623 --> 00:30:35,212 >> Reporter: ONE OF THE DOCTORS WILSON USED TO CALL ON IS 608 00:30:35,247 --> 00:30:39,389 CEDARS-SINAI CARDIOLOGIST DR. RICO SIMONINI. 609 00:30:39,423 --> 00:30:42,081 HE LIKED WILSON, BUT NOT HIS PITCHES. 610 00:30:42,116 --> 00:30:44,290 >> THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU COULD LEARN ABOUT A DRUG. 611 00:30:44,325 --> 00:30:46,879 AND THE WORST WAY TO LEARN ABOUT A DRUG IS BY A REP WHO'S TRYING 612 00:30:46,914 --> 00:30:50,020 TO SELL YOU ONE AND SHOWING YOU DATA THAT'S BEEN CHERRY-PICKED 613 00:30:50,055 --> 00:30:52,574 FOR YOU TO LOOK AT BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO SELL IT TO 614 00:30:52,609 --> 00:30:54,231 YOU. 615 00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:57,372 >> Reporter: BUT HE SAYS SOME OF HIS COLLEAGUES DIDFALL PREY TO 616 00:30:57,407 --> 00:30:59,788 THE ILLICIT PERSUASION TECHNIQUES. 617 00:30:59,823 --> 00:31:02,412 >> THEY SEEM TO FORGET THAT HIPPOCRATIC OATH THAT WE ALL 618 00:31:02,446 --> 00:31:07,072 TAKE, AND... AND, YEAH, THEY GET CORRUPTED BY THE MONEY. 619 00:31:07,106 --> 00:31:11,041 >> Reporter: FOUR YEARS INTO HIS JOB, WILSON BECAME CONVINCED 620 00:31:11,076 --> 00:31:14,458 BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB WAS BREAKING THE LAW. 621 00:31:14,493 --> 00:31:17,841 CONCERNED FOR PATIENTS' SAFETY, HE COMPLAINED TO MANAGEMENT. 622 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:20,740 THEY DID NOTHING, HE SAYS, BUT ASSIGN HIM A TOUGH NEW 623 00:31:20,775 --> 00:31:23,571 SUPERVISOR. 624 00:31:23,605 --> 00:31:27,920 >> SHE WAS A COMPLETE MICROMANAGER. 625 00:31:27,955 --> 00:31:30,647 AND SHE TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, WAS DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING I WAS 626 00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:32,062 DOING. 627 00:31:32,097 --> 00:31:34,858 I ALWAYS LEARNED THAT WHEN SOMEONE'S DOCUMENTING YOU, YOU 628 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,032 SHOULD DOCUMENT THEM. 629 00:31:36,066 --> 00:31:38,931 >> Reporter: WILSON KNEW HE HAD A GOOD JOB, BUT HE FELT 630 00:31:38,966 --> 00:31:40,899 COMPELLED TO EXPOSE THE FRAUD. 631 00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:43,487 >> MY POD MATES AND STUFF ARE SAYING, "YOU KNOW, THIS... YOU 632 00:31:43,522 --> 00:31:45,455 KNOW, THIS MANAGER SAID, 'STAY AWAY FROM HIM, HE'S BAD NEWS.'" 633 00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:47,388 OKAY? 634 00:31:47,422 --> 00:31:50,011 OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, I'D HAVE PEOPLE COME UP TO 635 00:31:50,046 --> 00:31:52,980 ME AT REGIONAL SALES MEETINGS AND TAKE ME ASIDE AND SAY, "HEY, 636 00:31:53,014 --> 00:31:55,603 DON'T... DON'T MESS IT UP FOR EVERYBODY." 637 00:31:55,637 --> 00:31:58,675 >> Reporter: BELIEVING HIS DAYS IN THE JOB WERE NUMBERED, WILSON 638 00:31:58,709 --> 00:32:02,368 STARTED HIS OWN UNDERCOVER OPERATION... 639 00:32:02,403 --> 00:32:06,959 >> I SAVED DOCUMENTS, AND I KEPT THEM AT MY APARTMENT AND IN MY 640 00:32:06,994 --> 00:32:11,481 STORAGE UNIT. 641 00:32:11,515 --> 00:32:12,827 LUXURY SKY BOX. 642 00:32:12,861 --> 00:32:17,142 HOW ABOUT THAT? 643 00:32:17,176 --> 00:32:19,351 >> Reporter: ...COLLECTING HIGH- TICKET RECEIPTS... 644 00:32:19,385 --> 00:32:20,662 >> CHARGERS VS. CLEVELAND. 645 00:32:20,697 --> 00:32:22,768 >> Reporter: ...MAKING COPIES IN DOCTOR'S OFFICES... 646 00:32:22,802 --> 00:32:24,011 >> LAKERS, CLIPPERS, $8,000. 647 00:32:24,045 --> 00:32:26,737 >> Reporter: ...STASHING AWAY ALL THE PAPERWORK HE COULD. 648 00:32:26,772 --> 00:32:32,571 >> THIS IS THE ADVANCE REPORT, THE CAREER MANAGEMENT TOOL WHERE 649 00:32:32,605 --> 00:32:35,643 WE ACTUALLY DOCUMENTED ALL THE FRAUD, ALL THE KICKBACKS WE WERE 650 00:32:35,677 --> 00:32:38,335 GIVING TO PHYSICIANS. 651 00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:43,375 >> Reporter: HE KNEW IT COULD ALL BE VALUABLE EVIDENCE. 652 00:32:57,837 --> 00:33:00,806 >> THE COMPANY DID EVERYTHING TO... TO TRY TO TERMINATE ME. 653 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,878 BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS THE NUMBER- THREE REP IN THE NATION FOR, YOU 654 00:33:03,912 --> 00:33:05,121 KNOW, ONE OF ITS DRUGS: PLAVIX. 655 00:33:05,155 --> 00:33:08,193 >> Reporter: MYCHAL WILSON SAYS HE WAS HARASSED, INTIMIDATED, 656 00:33:08,227 --> 00:33:11,575 ACCUSED OF INSUBORDINATION. 657 00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:15,407 IN SEPTEMBER 2004, BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB FIRED HIM FOR WHAT HE 658 00:33:15,441 --> 00:33:18,582 SAYS WAS A COMMON PAPERWORK ERROR. 659 00:33:18,617 --> 00:33:20,929 YOU NEVER GOT ANYTHING AFTER YOU WERE FIRED? 660 00:33:20,964 --> 00:33:24,312 >> NO, AND THEN THEY TRIED TO DENY MY UNEMPLOYMENT, AS WELL. 661 00:33:24,347 --> 00:33:27,764 >> Reporter: AS CONFIDENT A SALESMAN AS WILSON WAS, IT 662 00:33:27,798 --> 00:33:30,870 PROVED IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A JOB IN PHARMA SALES. 663 00:33:30,905 --> 00:33:35,427 HE SAYS HE WAS BLACKBALLED. 664 00:33:35,461 --> 00:33:38,395 >> I WENT ON INTERVIEWS, AND I WOULD GET TO THE THIRD AND 665 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:40,708 FOURTH INTERVIEW OF A NEW JOB, A MEDICAL DEVICE JOB OR A PHARMA 666 00:33:40,742 --> 00:33:42,261 JOB. 667 00:33:42,296 --> 00:33:47,059 THEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I REALIZED I DIDN'T GET THE JOB. 668 00:33:47,094 --> 00:33:50,373 >> Reporter: HE WAS FORCED TO BORROW MONEY FROM HIS PARENTS, 669 00:33:50,407 --> 00:33:53,617 THE VERY PEOPLE WHO RAISED HIM TO STAND UP FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT. 670 00:33:53,652 --> 00:33:56,310 >> I COULDN'T LIVE OFF CREDIT CARDS BECAUSE AFTER, YOU KNOW, A 671 00:33:56,344 --> 00:33:59,934 CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME YOU'RE UNEMPLOYED, YOU CAN'T PAY THE 672 00:33:59,968 --> 00:34:03,800 BILL, YOU GET SHUT OFF, INTEREST COMPOUNDS, AND THEN YOU START 673 00:34:03,834 --> 00:34:07,045 GETTING THE CALL-- 8:00 ON A SATURDAY MORNING, 8:01 ON A 674 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,495 SATURDAY MORNING-- THE COLLECTIONS CALL. 675 00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:13,361 SO, IT WAS PRETTY... IT WAS PRETTY TOUGH. 676 00:34:13,396 --> 00:34:16,847 >> Reporter: STILL STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET, WILSON MANAGED 677 00:34:16,882 --> 00:34:19,229 TO PASS THE CALIFORNIA BAR EXAM. 678 00:34:19,264 --> 00:34:23,578 HE STARTED PRACTICING ENTERTAINMENT LAW. 679 00:34:23,613 --> 00:34:28,721 THAT SAME YEAR, HE MET HIS FUTURE WIFE, SIMONE RODMAN. 680 00:34:28,756 --> 00:34:29,895 >> OKAY, SIMONE'S GREAT. 681 00:34:29,929 --> 00:34:32,277 SO, SHE, AT THE TIME, WAS WORKING FOR LEONARD NIMOY, THE 682 00:34:32,311 --> 00:34:34,106 ACTOR. 683 00:34:34,141 --> 00:34:38,041 AND I MET... I MET HER AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER SINCE 684 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:39,663 OUR FIRST DATE. 685 00:34:39,698 --> 00:34:42,804 >> Reporter: TRYING TO START A NEW LAW CAREER WHILE BURIED 686 00:34:42,839 --> 00:34:46,049 UNDER A MOUNTAIN OF DEBT, MYCHAL WILSON FACED A GUT-WRENCHING 687 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,983 DECISION: SHOULD HE ALSO TRY TO TAKE ON THIS GIANT CORPORATION? 688 00:34:49,017 --> 00:34:52,020 >> IF THERE AREN'T WHISTLEBLOWERS, THE FRAUD WILL 689 00:34:52,055 --> 00:34:53,815 CONTINUE AND CONTINUE. 690 00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:57,025 >> Reporter: HE KNEW IT WOULD BE AN UPHILL BATTLE TO TAKE ON 691 00:34:57,060 --> 00:35:00,339 BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB, BUT WILSON WAS READY TO BLOW THE WHISTLE. 692 00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:04,067 HE TURNED TO THE LAW FIRM OF WATERS, KRAUS AND PAUL. 693 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:07,450 >> WE THOUGHT MYCHAL'S CASE WAS OBVIOUSLY VERY COMPELLING, BUT, 694 00:35:07,484 --> 00:35:10,349 LIKE ALL WHISTLEBLOWER CASES, THERE'S NO GUARANTEES THAT THIS 695 00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:13,111 CASE IS EVEN GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. 696 00:35:13,145 --> 00:35:14,940 THERE'S NOTHING EASY ABOUT IT. 697 00:35:14,974 --> 00:35:18,116 >> Reporter: IN SEPTEMBER 2006, WILSON'S LAWYERS FILED A FEDERAL 698 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:21,602 SUIT ALLEGING THAT BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB ENGAGED IN FRAUDULENT AND 699 00:35:21,636 --> 00:35:23,949 ILLEGAL PRACTICES. 700 00:35:23,983 --> 00:35:28,471 THE LAWSUIT LAID OUT HOW SALES REPS TARGETED HIGH PRESCRIBING 701 00:35:28,505 --> 00:35:31,646 PHYSICIANS BY OFFERING HIGH- PRICED PERKS. 702 00:35:31,681 --> 00:35:34,960 >> THE ESSENCE OF THE CASE WAS THAT THE PRESCRIPTIONS HAD 703 00:35:34,994 --> 00:35:38,101 BEEN... BEEN WRITTEN AS A RESULT OF THESE INDUCEMENTS AND THEN 704 00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:41,415 WERE SUBMITTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR REIMBURSEMENT AS 705 00:35:41,449 --> 00:35:42,726 MEDICARE. 706 00:35:42,761 --> 00:35:45,453 >> Reporter: IN PLAIN ENGLISH, THE LAWSUIT ALLEGED THAT B.M.S. 707 00:35:45,488 --> 00:35:49,768 DEFRAUDED THE GOVERNMENT BY PAYING ILLEGAL KICKBACKS TO 708 00:35:49,802 --> 00:35:51,735 DOCTORS. 709 00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:55,291 >> WHEN SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING FOR YOU, YOU'RE GOING 710 00:35:55,325 --> 00:35:57,983 TO DO SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR THAT. 711 00:35:58,017 --> 00:36:02,608 >> Reporter: ONE INDUCEMENT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A FAMOUS 712 00:36:02,643 --> 00:36:05,024 CALIFORNIA NAME: LUCIUS ALLEN, WHO ONCE PLAYED FOR THE L.A. 713 00:36:05,059 --> 00:36:06,233 LAKERS. 714 00:36:06,267 --> 00:36:09,408 HE AND HIS WIFE, EVE, WORKED WITH WILSON, MARKETING DRUGS FOR 715 00:36:09,443 --> 00:36:10,616 BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB. 716 00:36:10,651 --> 00:36:13,067 >> LUCIUS AND EVE WERE KIND OF THE CONDUITS TO THE STAPLES 717 00:36:13,101 --> 00:36:15,345 CENTER, TO THE LAKERS, TO THE SUITES. 718 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:16,381 THE COMPANY KNEW THAT. 719 00:36:16,415 --> 00:36:17,761 EVERYONE KNEW THAT. 720 00:36:17,796 --> 00:36:19,349 THE DOCTORS KNEW THAT. 721 00:36:19,384 --> 00:36:22,214 SO, THE LAKERS' DREAM CAMPS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CREATED BY 722 00:36:22,249 --> 00:36:24,147 BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB. 723 00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,839 THE DOCTORS COME, THEIR FAMILIES COME, AND THEY CAN DO DRILLS 724 00:36:26,874 --> 00:36:27,944 WITH THE LAKERS. 725 00:36:27,978 --> 00:36:31,775 THEY CAN PLAY WITH THEM. 726 00:36:31,810 --> 00:36:35,607 >> Reporter: WILSON KNEW THAT AS A WHISTLEBLOWER, THERE WAS A 727 00:36:35,641 --> 00:36:38,748 CHANCE HE COULD GET 15% TO 25% OF ANY MONEY THE GOVERNMENT 728 00:36:38,782 --> 00:36:41,302 RECOVERED. 729 00:36:41,337 --> 00:36:45,824 THERE WERE, HOWEVER, OTHER WHISTLEBLOWERS WITH WHOM HE 730 00:36:45,858 --> 00:36:47,239 MIGHT HAVE TO SPLIT THE REWARD. 731 00:36:47,274 --> 00:36:51,105 >> BUT THE KEY THING IS, I HAD THE GREAT MATERIAL EVIDENCE. 732 00:36:51,139 --> 00:36:52,727 HOLLYWOOD BOWL, L.A. 733 00:36:52,762 --> 00:36:54,764 PHILHARMONIC. 734 00:36:54,798 --> 00:36:57,042 THIS IS ARROWHEAD POND. 735 00:36:57,076 --> 00:36:59,251 >> Reporter: YOU HAD DONE THE WORK. 736 00:36:59,286 --> 00:37:00,425 >> I HAD DONE THE WORK. 737 00:37:00,459 --> 00:37:02,772 I HAD THE CHECKS, I HAD THE RECEIPTS, ALL THE... THE 738 00:37:02,806 --> 00:37:04,222 ILLEGAL, YOU KNOW, INDUCEMENTS. 739 00:37:04,256 --> 00:37:05,740 YOU KNOW, COPIES OF EVERYTHING. 740 00:37:05,775 --> 00:37:08,502 ALL I REMEMBER IS BRINGING THEM TO MY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND 741 00:37:08,536 --> 00:37:10,849 MAYBE THERE WERE, LIKE, 14, 15 BANKER BOXES. 742 00:37:10,883 --> 00:37:13,852 BUT I THINK, AT ONE POINT, I HEARD SOMETHING LIKE 40,000 743 00:37:13,886 --> 00:37:16,337 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS. 744 00:37:16,372 --> 00:37:20,272 >> Reporter: WHILE THE FEDERAL SUIT WAS PENDING, MYCHAL WILSON 745 00:37:20,307 --> 00:37:23,827 FILED A SECOND SUIT, THIS TIME UNDER STATE WHISTLEBLOWER LAW IN 746 00:37:23,862 --> 00:37:25,933 CALIFORNIA. 747 00:37:25,967 --> 00:37:28,798 WHAT WAS YOUR GOAL IN FILING THAT SECOND LAWSUIT? 748 00:37:28,832 --> 00:37:32,422 >> SO, THE GOAL IN THE SECOND LAWSUIT WAS TO HOLD B.M.S. 749 00:37:32,457 --> 00:37:35,874 ACCOUNTABLE FOR FRAUD ON... ON BEHALF OF THE PRIVATE INSURERS 750 00:37:35,908 --> 00:37:39,084 IN CALIFORNIA AND STILL BRING ABOUT JUSTICE. 751 00:37:39,118 --> 00:37:40,844 >> WE THOUGHT IT WAS A RIGHTEOUS CASE. 752 00:37:40,879 --> 00:37:43,537 WELL, WE REALLY BELIEVED IN MYCHAL, AND WE... WE BELIEVED IN 753 00:37:43,571 --> 00:37:46,194 THE... THE FACTS THAT HE WAS REPORTING. 754 00:37:46,229 --> 00:37:48,645 AND WE HAD ADDITIONAL WITNESSES WHO WERE GOING TO SUPPORT WHAT 755 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,302 HE WAS SAYING. 756 00:37:50,337 --> 00:37:51,683 >> Reporter: THOSE WITNESSES? 757 00:37:51,717 --> 00:37:53,478 NONE OTHER THAN FORMER L.A. 758 00:37:53,512 --> 00:37:56,964 LAKER LUCIUS ALLEN AND HIS WIFE, EVE. 759 00:37:56,998 --> 00:38:00,139 >> THEY HAD PHOTOGRAPHS OF LAKERS AND DOCTORS AND THEIR 760 00:38:00,174 --> 00:38:02,107 FAMILIES TOGETHER. 761 00:38:02,141 --> 00:38:05,213 THEY HAD ACTUAL CHECKS, "THANK YOU" LETTERS, FOR THEIR 762 00:38:05,248 --> 00:38:07,561 CONSULTING GIGS. 763 00:38:07,595 --> 00:38:11,461 >> MYCHAL NEVER DOUBTED HIMSELF IN TAKING ON A MAJOR 764 00:38:11,496 --> 00:38:14,775 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY. 765 00:38:14,809 --> 00:38:20,263 I THINK THAT HE... HE FEELS SO STRONGLY ABOUT WHAT HE DOES, AND 766 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:24,232 I THINK HE REALLY DOES IDENTIFY WITH THE DAVID CHARACTER. 767 00:38:24,267 --> 00:38:27,063 YOU KNOW, THE UNDERDOG. 768 00:38:27,097 --> 00:38:30,894 >> Reporter: FOR MYCHAL WILSON AND HIS GROWING FAMILY, HIS 769 00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:33,414 DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH BATTLE WAS WORTH PUTTING EVERYTHING ON THE 770 00:38:33,449 --> 00:38:35,589 LINE. 771 00:38:35,623 --> 00:38:38,039 >> I BECAME SO PARANOID THAT I STARTED CHECKING UNDER THE HOOD 772 00:38:38,074 --> 00:38:39,731 OF MY CAR. 773 00:38:39,765 --> 00:38:43,597 >> Reporter: HOW WOULD IT END? 774 00:38:50,293 --> 00:38:53,469 >> I SPOKE OUT, I WAS TERMINATED. 775 00:38:53,503 --> 00:38:56,368 >> Reporter: MYCHAL WILSON HAD A LOT RIDING ON THE WHISTLEBLOWER 776 00:38:56,403 --> 00:38:57,576 LAWSUITS. 777 00:38:57,611 --> 00:39:02,374 HE COULD GET A LIFE-CHANGING REWARD, OR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. 778 00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:05,239 >> PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S EASY MONEY FOR WHISTLEBLOWERS TO 779 00:39:05,273 --> 00:39:06,792 BRING THESE CASES. 780 00:39:06,827 --> 00:39:09,795 IT'S A FARCE BECAUSE OF WHAT WHISTLEBLOWERS LIKE MYCHAL GO 781 00:39:09,830 --> 00:39:12,004 THROUGH. 782 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:15,491 THEY HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN A CASE FOR ALL THESE YEARS, WITH 783 00:39:15,525 --> 00:39:18,252 NO GUARANTEE THAT IT'S GOING TO LEAD ANYWHERE AT THE END OF THE 784 00:39:18,286 --> 00:39:19,529 DAY. 785 00:39:19,564 --> 00:39:21,393 >> Reporter: THE FEDERAL CASE ENDED WITH A SHOCKER. 786 00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:23,637 THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB SETTLED 787 00:39:23,671 --> 00:39:24,914 IN JUST A YEAR. 788 00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:28,711 THE COMPANY ADMITTED NO WRONGDOING, BUT PAID A 789 00:39:28,745 --> 00:39:31,369 STAGGERING SUM TO RESOLVE ALLEGATIONS INVOLVING DRUG 790 00:39:31,403 --> 00:39:32,922 MARKETING AND PRICING. 791 00:39:32,956 --> 00:39:36,339 >> MY ATTORNEYS CALLED ME, AND THEY SAID, LIKE, "THE D.O.J. 792 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:38,755 JUST ANNOUNCED THAT THERE'S A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT FOR 793 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:41,551 $515 MILLION." 794 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,349 >> Reporter: HALF A BILLION DOLLARS? 795 00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:47,661 >> YES. 796 00:39:47,695 --> 00:39:49,317 >> Reporter: WILSON'S PERSISTENCE PAID OFF. 797 00:39:49,352 --> 00:39:51,665 >> SO, I DID... I DID GET A PORTION OF THE AWARD. 798 00:39:51,699 --> 00:39:55,185 I CAN SAY IT WAS A MULTIMILLION- DOLLAR AWARD. 799 00:39:55,220 --> 00:39:57,774 >> Reporter: AS WILSON SET ABOUT BUILDING HIS LAW PRACTICE, HIS 800 00:39:57,809 --> 00:40:03,090 CALIFORNIA CASE LANGUISHED FOR NINE LONG YEARS. 801 00:40:03,124 --> 00:40:06,473 >> FOR A LAW FIRM TO EXPEND THE TIME, EFFORT AND RESOURCES, YOU 802 00:40:06,507 --> 00:40:09,924 HAVE TO BE PRETTY, YOU KNOW, CONFIDENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 803 00:40:09,959 --> 00:40:11,063 GET A GOOD RESULT AT THE END. 804 00:40:11,098 --> 00:40:16,241 >> Reporter: HOW ABOUT $30 MILLION? 805 00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:20,038 THAT'S WHAT BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB AGREED TO PAY IN THE STATE CASE 806 00:40:20,072 --> 00:40:23,628 IN 2016, AGAIN WITHOUT ADMITTING ANY WRONGDOING. 807 00:40:23,662 --> 00:40:27,459 ABOUT HALF OF THE SETTLEMENT WENT TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA; 808 00:40:27,494 --> 00:40:31,567 THE REST WENT TO MYCHAL WILSON AND THE OTHER WHISTLEBLOWERS. 809 00:40:31,601 --> 00:40:40,645 >> GIVEN WHAT MYCHAL HAD BEEN THROUGH AND OUR OWN FIRM IN 810 00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,199 JUST... IN LITIGATING THE CASE ALL THAT TIME, IT WAS A GREAT 811 00:40:43,233 --> 00:40:44,338 DAY. 812 00:40:44,372 --> 00:40:45,995 >> Reporter: BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB DECLINED AN ON-CAMERA 813 00:40:46,029 --> 00:41:00,906 INTERVIEW BUT GAVE US A STATEMENT SAYING, IN PART: 814 00:41:00,941 --> 00:41:04,116 >> Reporter: MYCHAL WILSON BELIEVES HE MADE A DIFFERENCE 815 00:41:04,151 --> 00:41:05,428 FOR PATIENTS. 816 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:08,051 >> MOST WHISTLEBLOWERS FEEL THEY HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND 817 00:41:08,086 --> 00:41:11,641 A LOT OF THAT INVOLVES BRINGING ABOUT A SENSE OF JUSTICE. 818 00:41:11,676 --> 00:41:14,955 >> Reporter: IF HIS EXPERIENCE AS A WHISTLEBLOWER TAUGHT HIM 819 00:41:14,989 --> 00:41:18,372 ANYTHING, IT WAS HOW TO BE A WHISTLEBLOWER LAWYER. 820 00:41:18,406 --> 00:41:19,891 >> EXACTLY. 821 00:41:19,925 --> 00:41:21,375 YEAH, YEAH. 822 00:41:21,409 --> 00:41:24,309 SO, IT WAS GREAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE PLAYBOOK NOW IN 823 00:41:24,343 --> 00:41:26,587 TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, RETALIATION AGAINST THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE 824 00:41:26,622 --> 00:41:28,037 COMPANIES, SO... 825 00:41:28,071 --> 00:41:30,833 I'M PROBABLY THE... ONE OF THE ONLY ONES OUT THERE WHO MAY BE 826 00:41:30,867 --> 00:41:33,456 BOTH THE WHISTLEBLOWER AND THE WHISTLEBLOWER ATTORNEY. 827 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:34,630 I... I... I KNOW THEIR ANXIETY. 828 00:41:34,664 --> 00:41:40,187 I KNOW THEIR FEELING OF BEING SECLUDED. 829 00:41:40,221 --> 00:41:43,431 >> Reporter: WILSON HAS BECOME A VERY PUBLIC ADVOCATE FOR 830 00:41:43,466 --> 00:41:44,709 WHISTLEBLOWERS EVERYWHERE. 831 00:41:44,743 --> 00:41:47,608 HE'S EVEN GOT HIS OWN WHISTLEBLOWER SHOW. 832 00:41:47,643 --> 00:41:49,507 >> "RAD TV." 833 00:41:49,541 --> 00:41:52,130 THE REASON WHY I DID MY OWN SHOW WAS TO INFORM THE PUBLIC OF WHAT 834 00:41:52,164 --> 00:41:54,891 REALLY GOES ON AND TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO SOMEONE WHO, 835 00:41:54,926 --> 00:41:57,618 SAY, IS HAVING THE SAME EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD BUT 836 00:41:57,653 --> 00:41:59,137 DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 837 00:41:59,171 --> 00:42:02,416 AND YOU KNOW, THEY MAY SEE THE SHOW, THEY MAY SEE SOME OTHER 838 00:42:02,450 --> 00:42:05,350 VICTIM OR WHISTLEBLOWER, AND SAY, "HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? 839 00:42:05,384 --> 00:42:08,353 I CAN DO THAT," AND, YOU KNOW, BRING ABOUT JUSTICE ULTIMATELY. 840 00:42:08,387 --> 00:42:10,182 GOOD GAME. 841 00:42:10,217 --> 00:42:12,806 MY SON WAS KIND OF LIKE, HE HAD CERTAIN QUESTIONS LIKE ANY YOUNG 842 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,841 KID DOES. 843 00:42:13,876 --> 00:42:15,878 AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT? 844 00:42:15,912 --> 00:42:18,052 I SLAY CORPORATE DRAGONS." 845 00:42:18,087 --> 00:42:20,503 AND I LEAVE IT AT THAT. 846 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,954 >> TWO, FOUR, SIX, EIGHT, WHO DO WE APPRECIATE? 847 00:42:22,988 --> 00:42:25,577 >> Reporter: TURNS OUT MYCHAL WILSON LIKES PLAYING THE HERO. 848 00:42:25,612 --> 00:42:33,585 BLOW THE WHISTLE, CHANGE THE WORLD. 849 00:42:33,620 --> 00:42:36,450 Captioning sponsored by CBS Captioned by 850 00:42:39,626 --> 00:42:41,628 Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 69056

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