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Don't be shy. Come on in.
I know you get the call from Human Resources.
Oh, yeah.
It's okay. You're not in trouble. Just the opposite, in fact.
Oh. Yeah.
We're going to be doing a special project. But here, have a seat.
Okay.
So, as you know, Human Resources, we're in charge of equal opportunity.
Hypothetically, we're in charge for the whole equal work for equal pay type
thing, where women just...
by what their performance might be like, but that's regardless.
What we're going to be doing next week is an entire week of seminars
on sexual harassment.
Oh, wow.
That's a good thing. Have you had problems?
Actually, yeah.
Oh, you should have come to me.
But it's okay, because we are totally going to deal with that. That's not
something... that, you know, you're a young intern, you know, you just
college, here you are, first month at the company, and, you know, we want to
make a good impression.
So, you, being young, female, and new to the company, you might be the
perfect opportunity to use as, like, our poster girl for sexual harassment.
Oh, okay.
And I can tell you, you know, participating in the company's extra
this is a really great way to get noticed.
Oh, yeah, I mean...
That sounds good to me. You know, the internship program is supposed to be a
year, but it doesn't have to be.
So you're going to help me educate everyone in the company about sexual
harassment. Oh, that's awesome. I mean, I couldn't thank you.
No problem. Now, one of the first things, and it's related, is what's
appropriate dress.
for the workplace, which is inappropriate dress for the workplace.
So while you guys stand up, let's take a look at what you're wearing, because
remember, you're supposed to be the poster girl. Right.
So we want to make sure that you're impeccable.
Okay.
So the skirt, it's not supposed to be more than one hand width from the top of
the knee.
Okay. Oh.
Well, that's a little short.
A little short.
I don't think you'd get written up for it. I mean, we're a little loose about
the dress policy, but we'll talk about that because you're, you know, there's
excuse for anyone being inappropriate, but you're kind of inviting the type of
attention and we don't want to have to fire the whole now staff, right? Yeah.
So let's look at this top. It cinches in, that's fine.
Now the top is perfect.
So let's see what would happen if like the top wasn't perfect.
oh okay yeah all right like for example what if we had one last button done
what do you think is that appropriate or inappropriate i think
it's appropriate yeah it's still appropriate because it's more or less
closed okay now we go this far
and we like flip it open a bit
what do you think appropriate or inappropriate
I think it's like borderline.
It's kind of borderline.
Okay. So what if we really sit there and we go past it?
I feel like that's definitely going to be inappropriate.
We don't have to do that button.
Oh. Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you think that we can show people what is wrong or what's the right thing
do if they don't know what's wrong? You're going to have to demonstrate
Mm -hmm. Okay, so maybe, you know, it's not a big deal under this button. It's
just us in here. That's why it's a closed meeting, and absolutely no one
you're even here.
Now, what do you think?
Appropriate or inappropriate?
I definitely think that inappropriate is drawing some lies.
Okay, you're probably right. That's probably inappropriate.
Now, you leave it like that because you shouldn't get to know what it feels like
because what if you're dressed inappropriately and you're just not
Again, that would make us look bad because you're supposed to be our poster
girl.
Now, we were talking about the skirt being short.
The real risk, obviously, is not how much of your knee they see.
It's what's underneath the skirt, right?
So, are you wearing underwear?
Yeah. Okay.
Now, that's the thing is can I see?
Anything. So go ahead and have a seat there.
Okay. Good. Now cross and uncross your legs.
Okay, cross.
Good. So, what if the skirt was a little shorter?
Go ahead and cross and uncross your legs.
Okay, other one.
All right.
Now, what if the skirt was even shorter?
Now cross and uncross.
And cross again.
Alright, it's kind of hard to tell because there's a lot of fabric. So go
and stand up.
So, you know, there's a lot of fabric. So let's say you weren't wearing...
We have to know if we're going to be exposed with the proper length for a
right? Maybe we could adjust the length of the skirt. Maybe they could be
shorter and be okay because, you know, fashion.
Wouldn't you like to have more freedom in what you wear?
Right, without having to worry about unwanted attention?
Yeah. All right, so let's go ahead and do this then.
Don't worry. It's all right. It's just you and I.
There you go. You step right out. There you go.
Wow, you did that so easy.
Go ahead, have a seat again.
Okay. So let's go ahead and get this like it's a short, right? Okay.
So could have skirted that short. Be okay.
Cross.
Uncross.
Okay, cross the other side.
All right, other way.
Cross.
Good. All right, now go ahead and stand up.
Let's say, for argument's sake, if you were standing and your skirt was...
What do you think about that length?
I think it's inappropriate.
Well, let's see. You know what we'll do?
I'd like you to go ahead with, you know, you're back to me. Turn around and pick
up your underwear and we'll see if you're, like, very exposed.
And don't do it quickly because, you know, it's like maybe you dropped a pile
papers.
All right, so that script might be a little too short.
Yeah. Okay, you go ahead and have a seat. But leave it like that so you get
to.
All right, so you're doing great.
So we can talk about personal space.
This, you would say, is?
I would say it's okay,
I guess. What is it that makes you feel like it's not okay?
But that's the dress. We're talking about the space between us. I think this
a good space.
Okay.
It's okay.
Okay. All right. Because it's arm's reach.
That's true.
It might be just a tad bit close. Okay. So what about that?
Yeah, it's a very personal space. So what makes it so personal? Because, you
know, we're actually, my whole leg length,
Yeah. For me, personally, it's a little too close. Like, it's too much. Too
close to the crotch.
Do you find your eyes drawn to the male crotches in the office?
No. No.
Are you sure?
I'm not saying any of the men have complained about you, but have your eyes
lingering?
It's okay. You know, sometimes a little glance in here is natural.
So, you know, it's hard to get in trouble for a look because, I mean,
could say, hey, they were looking at me like this. And, I mean, like, how would
you feel if a bunch of men in the office were like, she's constantly, you know,
staring at my crotch region?
Right, yeah.
Imagine if you got fired for sexual harassment.
Especially, oh my gosh, if you were the poster girl, they'd be on your permanent
record.
I mean, we're not allowed to tell other companies you got fired, but, you know,
people do talk.
I'd hate to see a girl your age just shut out of the corporate world or such
you know, misunderstanding.
Yeah, I mean, I don't do that.
Okay. What about touching? Do you ever touch the men?
No. No.
So you wouldn't be talking and joking and, for example, like they tell a joke
and you're like, oh, that's so funny, nothing like that?
Well, that's not a bad policy, but sometimes it's camaraderie, right? If
someone's like, hey, good job, would you feel... Yeah, I mean, like, maybe...
Right, so you could be like, hey, it's a good job.
Yeah.
It's okay, that's fine.
So let's talk about maybe how far up the leg is inappropriate.
Okay. Because you have to know for yourself, like, hey... I mean, right
I was like, you know what, you're doing great.
Yeah, I don't see anything.
Okay. So, you know, I don't want to invade your space too much, so how about
practice on me instead?
Okay, you know, you're wearing a very short skirt, which is very
but we'll talk about that later.
So instead of me thinking how far up the leg is appropriate, you will.
Right? Because, I mean, I want to respect your space, even though we're
our human resources training, which gives us a little bit of leeway.
All right? Okay.
So I'm going to put your hand in different places up my leg, and we'll
whether it's appropriate or inappropriate.
Okay. Okay? Yeah.
All right, so.
What do you think?
I mean, I guess that's appropriate.
Okay.
Okay, so that's okay. It's a pat because this is not the same as that. What
about here?
Yeah, I think that might be a little inappropriate.
What if they're just asking you to help find their keys?
What if they need a key to the file cabinet?
That's true.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's appropriate.
Nice. Okay.
So what about here?
Well, yeah.
So the pack's no good? Yeah. What about that?
Yeah, I think that's a little inappropriate.
Yeah. Right.
It is probably pushing it.
Yeah. What? You look like you're a little concerned.
Is there something?
Yeah, I just think it's a little inappropriate.
Now, do you suspect that I have an erection right now?
Be honest now.
Yes. Now, that's an interesting point because it's inappropriate for a man to
have an erection at work.
I mean, I would say so.
Okay, but you're not sure if I have one or not because of the way I'm sitting
and the way the pants are, right?
Well, let's go ahead and let's check because you need to be able to identify
that because if it's inappropriate, then you need to know.
Yeah, I would say yes.
Okay, but you can't really be sure, right?
Yeah, I guess so.
Let's see.
Kind of like revealing what's behind the door, right?
Yeah, I don't think that's right.
So you feel comfortable maybe accusing a man of inappropriate behavior without
being sure?
That's worrisome.
So it makes sense for you to be sure that this is what you think is going on,
doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
So, you're right. I mean, I do have almost a full erection. Yes.
So, now you can tell the difference.
Yeah.
Now, what if you're asked to do this?
I would feel like that would be very, very inappropriate.
Okay. So, what makes it inappropriate?
My hand on another person's, like, body and penis.
Right. So, it's inappropriate if it's sexual.
Um, yeah.
So, I mean, if it's sexual, then, you know, you'd have to be sure because the
person would have to be very aroused.
Yeah.
Okay. Well, why don't we go ahead and just finish this and then see if you
it was inappropriate after the fact.
Um, yeah. We want you to be sure.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Great.
Let me get something out of my desk.
There you go. Take that.
Put some of that in your hand.
Now, does that feel like, I mean, that could just be lotion, right?
Yeah. I mean.
Okay. So go ahead and put it on.
Yeah, I would say this is like
super inappropriate.
Okay.
Well, I think, to be honest, I think you're right.
But I'm actually very distracted now, and it's kind of hard to focus because
actually aroused now.
So, gosh, if we wait for it to go away, you might have to get someone else to
fill your place.
So maybe we could just help me get rid of this.
I don't know.
I understand, but, I mean, you're kind of responsible for it. So if you took
care of it, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure. I don't see why that's. like
issue okay yeah great so let's go ahead and just get this taken out of the way
you know just like a problem that needs to be solved um oh yeah okay
now
for the sake of time you want to put two hands into it right you don't use one
hand on the keyboard um right so yeah just go ahead and use
Now, since you're already there, don't be afraid to touch the balls, too,
I mean, you're already, it's already involved. There's no reason to hesitate.
Yeah, there we are.
It's okay. You're doing fine.
We're not doing anything wrong.
I mean, after all, I'm the human resources director.
So, I mean, I would know what you're doing right this moment in this
circumstance was wrong, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
Definitely.
What you're doing is perfectly fine.
And you want to do your best at this so it doesn't take that long because we
have other stuff to cover.
Oh. And I wouldn't want you to think you're trying to like work me up to want
do more than that. Are you?
No. No, not at all. So you're trying to like relieve the sexual tension, not
increase it. Right.
Right? Yeah.
Because that would be bad.
There you go. Now, it won't take too long doing it like that. Okay.
And it's important, obviously, you don't tell any other co -workers about this
because then the other men in the office will expect it.
Yeah, no. You'll have to have a big seminar over it.
Yeah, definitely. I won't say anything.
I do not want you being sexually harassed out there.
I'll be protecting you.
You're doing great.
Okay.
So is this, like, going to help me with, like, with my
job, like, possibly? Oh, yeah, I mean...
You know, me knowing you the way I do means I'm probably going to take your
in any kind of sexual harassment issues that come up.
I know you probably had some problems, and you've just been afraid to say
anything because you're an intern.
You don't have to worry about that.
I don't want to lose my job or anything. Oh, yeah, no, I've got you covered.
And not only that, who would ever have the balls to sexually harass the girl
that's supposed to be, like, the poster girl for sexual harassment for the
company? Right, right, yeah, that makes sense.
Why don't you sit with your legs a little bit crossed, but kind of
inappropriately, and see if that kind of invites the wrong attention.
Just take this leg, just like this.
Okay. Right? Because that's nothing really wrong with that. Yeah, just like
that.
That's it. Don't stop that now.
Keep going just like that. Okay.
If you could squeeze the balls just a little bit, then I... Yeah. Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh! Oh!
Okay, now it's that sensitive, that sensitive. Okay.
Um... Yeah.
Oh, we have a bit of an issue.
Yeah.
Okay. You know what? That is absolutely the best. Go ahead and grab your
panties. Okay.
There we go.
There you are.
Yeah.
Actually, here you go.
I have another appointment, actually, so you can go ahead.
You're going to go to the ladies' room, get cleaned up, and get back to work.
And remember, we don't want you getting unwanted attention.
So you don't want to tell anybody about the sexual harassment seminars.
Mm -hmm. Okay?
Because then all of a sudden everyone's on their best behavior with you, and
then that doesn't give you a good indication of who needs counseling.
Right. Right? Right. That makes sense, right? Yeah.
But tomorrow, wear something that you think is extremely inappropriate.
The best idea is for you to wear something that you think is completely
inappropriate.
But that still doesn't mean guys should get to, the male employees should say
inappropriate things or the women should criticize you. Yeah. So you make a
mental list and I'll be watching to see who acts inappropriate.
Mm -hmm. Yeah. All right.
Good job. You're my girl.
Um. Actually, how about your other hand?
Um, okay. There we go. All right.
Well, come on. Okay. Good. Good.
Good. Very good. Okay. Good work today. Yep. Come on in.
Okay. All right. Hold on now. Take a look.
Um. All right. So.
Do you feel like you were getting... Yeah, I definitely feel like I've been
getting looked at more today. Like the women... In ways that are inappropriate.
Yeah. Well, let's do the skirt check here.
Turn around and pick that up.
Okay, yeah. So even the length on that is appropriate. I don't think it's
because of the length. I think it's because of the way it flares out.
But I do see like... This kind of exposes.
Yeah. But not really. I mean, they're out.
Good. So this is a good example.
But, you know, you still shouldn't have men saying things to you because they
should come to me.
Right. You know, this is very upsetting, but not a single man in the office came
up and made a complaint.
Oh. Yeah.
All the women did. Yeah. But not a single man here.
Yeah. So.
They obviously have a lot to learn about sexual harassment and what it means
and what's appropriate and inappropriate.
All right.
So what I'd like you to do is go ahead and have a seat.
Okay. Okay.
All right. So you remember how you had to touch my leg to see if it was
inappropriate? Mm -hmm. All right. Now that we're more comfortable together,
we're going to run the same test on you.
Okay. Okay. So I'm going to be putting my hand up your legs.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
So? I think, yeah.
Okay.
Seems normal.
Yeah, that seems a little personal.
Well, what if the skirt, now it's not up the skirt, how's that?
Yeah, yeah.
So, but now we're saying this touch is okay and that's not. That's kind of a
fine line, right? If you touch my leg, you touch my leg in a way that I'm like,
now you're kind of losing ground. But let's just see.
Yeah, I definitely think that that is much.
Okay, so what about... Yeah, that's a...
A hundred percent inappropriate.
Now let me ask you, though, what if, you know, it's funny because there's that
what's welcome to not. Like, there's people you like to hug and people you
like to hug.
But the rules have to be the same for everybody. So what if you were
to this type of touch in a different way?
We have to make sure that no matter how you're being touched, you perceive it
the same way.
Doesn't that make sense? Like, the way your touch shouldn't matter, it should
just be the touch itself.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So keeping that in mind, then probably we'll just do this
we'll see how you, you know, like at the end, like, okay, so the touch was
not.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess so.
Okay.
And then if we do a little more.
Oh, wow.
Now.
He then sends a mixed signal, right?
It's okay. I am going to help you to really understand.
Okay.
Um,
yeah.
I think it's much. I mean, um, wow.
So now there's a certain amount of responsiveness happening here too.
I mean, I really, really think this is not okay.
Yeah, I think if I saw someone doing this like it wouldn't definitely not be
good Even though
that
feels good and all I don't I don't think it's appropriate for work
What if two people were caught doing this in a private part of the office?
it be sexual harassment or would it just be something of, like, inappropriate
behavior? How would we categorize that, do you think?
I think it would be definitely inappropriate behavior. But it's
does that fall in the sexual harassment category?
I mean, no. Why don't you take a few minutes to keep doing this and think, is
it inappropriate in a work sense?
Or is it actually sexual harassment? Because sexual harassment is all we're
really concerned about right now.
Right?
Yeah. Yeah.
I
think
if two people were consensually having sex, then I think...
or doing this, but it's not work, so... Take your time.
Don't jump to any conclusions.
Yeah, I just, I really don't think, like, I'm not sure about... It's okay,
just take another couple minutes and process it.
I don't like people to rush to judgment on things.
I mean...
Imagine if, like, I don't know, someone had over a dozen complaints about how
they were dressed today by the women in the office, and I rushed to judgment.
Well, that intern, hypothetically, if it was an intern, would be fired.
Right. Yeah.
And I'd have trouble protecting them.
If I knew that they were the type to rush to judgment as well.
Mm -hmm.
So...
I just, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how this is right.
Are you just looking at that?
Premonization is consensual. Two people doing something consensual that they're
not supposed to.
Sexual harassment, there's a lack of consent.
So which one would that have been?
I guess the second.
Premonization? Yeah.
Okay. That's what I think, too. Yeah. All right, great.
You know what else I was thinking? This skirt, it's not so much the length, it's
the flare -out. So that's a gray area, but the top is definitely inappropriate.
Yeah. You shouldn't wear inappropriate stuff to work. So go ahead and take the
shirt off.
Oh, um,
okay.
Um, you told me to wear this, so.
I told you to wear something that was inappropriate.
This is what you picked.
Who picked this shirt?
Um, me.
Right. Who owns this shirt?
Me.
Okay. Are you wearing something inappropriate to work?
Yes. So you shouldn't be wearing it.
Right. It was. Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
You shouldn't wear something inappropriate to work.
If you take it off, then you're not wearing it. Right. You're so right about
that. Yes.
Okay.
I feel like I'm really
going to get looked at now.
Oh, it's okay. We'll figure something out before you leave. Plus, it's the end
of the day, so there won't really be anyone here when you're out. You know.
We'll work it out.
There we go. All right. I don't want you to agitate the nipples and make them
hard like that because now you have hard nipples.
Which is a state of arousal, which is sending out certain types of signals,
right?
Okay.
So now once again, we have a similar problem to yesterday.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
Okay. So now you've created a situation.
If you create a situation, you should be the one to resolve it, right?
Yes. All right. So, and this is only going to happen when we're practicing
because after this, you're going to have a perfect idea of how not to create a
sexually tense or hostile environment.
But right now, you are. You are creating a sexually hostile environment.
Okay, so I'm the problem here. Right. Okay. So, you created a problem.
Could you put the shirt back on?
You know, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
So the problem is I have now, I have work to do, but I have an incredibly
uncomfortable erection. Oh, wow.
Okay. Right.
So what did we do last time?
Yes.
However, I don't have lube with me. Oh. And dry hands can cause pain.
So this time you're just going to use your mouth.
To alleviate the situation.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, no.
No, no. That's not okay. I don't agree with that.
Let's walk through this, okay?
All right. Sorry. This is, in case you're wondering, I always record these
interviews, okay? To make sure that, you know, there's a record of everything.
Okay? All right. So, if you create a situation, you should
resolve it.
Yes. Right.
So, it is your responsibility to do what is required to remedy the
situation. Yeah.
Okay. What is the situation here?
I have caused the problem.
And the problem is?
Your erection.
Right.
What is the solution that we learned the other day to that?
I do something.
Things to relieve your situation.
That is outstanding.
You are, I'm really proud of you. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to be, well, you're
going to be the top of the company with the way you're going to go ahead and
just put a new face on sexual harassment here. Yeah. All right, great. Why don't
you go ahead and you get on your knees. I'm going to take these off and get a
nice comfortable seat.
And then we'll go ahead and we'll work together to resolve this issue.
I'm okay. I mean, I created the situation, so I should take care of it.
Now, you know, you don't have to worry about taking care of this situation with
anyone else who works here, right? Especially after we do the seminar.
Yeah. However, Mr.
Johansson, the CEO, you're probably going to start doing some work for him.
So if you happen to, if you make a mistake and you create a situation like
you'll have to take care of it.
Okay.
That just makes sense. I mean, he's the boss. He sets all the policies. Uh -huh.
So if you create a situation like this with a boss, our boss, then you have to
take care of it.
Yeah. I mean, that makes complete sense.
Okay. Yeah.
So
if you
have to do this with a boss, what if he's...
isn't impressed with your performance.
You created a situation and did a bad job of resolving it.
So let's go ahead and practice. I want you to really, really throw some effort
into this.
There we go.
My thought is, is that good?
It's definitely an improvement over how you started.
I like that you're trying to maintain eye contact with me because in the
business world, people don't respect you if you don't maintain eye contact.
Yeah.
And just show commitment to resolving this issue.
Just go down.
More, more, more.
Is that honestly the best you can do?
Okay. All right. I mean, we set a watermark, so to speak, you know.
I mean you're doing better than other people in your situation right
You're actually doing a pretty decent job if you give it some real enthusiasm
and you're going to finish.
But you're going to want to catch it all in your mouth.
Oh, what? No.
No, no, no, no, no. I don't do that.
Okay. Here's the problem, though. If you don't catch it all in your mouth, it's
going to make a mess, which means you're going to be creating another problem.
Right, yeah. You don't solve a problem by creating a problem, but if it all
down your throat, no problem.
You're right.
Okay.
Don't stop till it's solved.
That's it.
Okay.
That's it.
There you go.
Don't get that in your hands. You've got to pick stuff up.
You're right.
Look at me. Oh, my gosh.
That was a lot.
You can make a mess.
You made a mess.
All right, so you resolve one problem by creating another one. It's all right,
though. You know what? I'm going to be like a mentor for you.
Yeah. Okay?
So I'm a...
I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to show you pictures of what you're going
wear tomorrow on my computer.
And just wear that outfit and that'll be like the final step for the sexual
harassment training.
Okay? Okay. Yep.
Let's take a look at those pictures.
Okay.
Ariana.
Yes. You know the lady I got all the complaints about from the other women
yesterday?
Oh, she's on her way here now.
Oh, inappropriate dress.
Oh, I don't know if termination is necessary.
Oh, I should wait to see how she's dressed first?
Okay. Well, I'll do that and I can see if I could talk some sense into her.
All right. Well, if it's necessary.
All right. Bye.
Hold on there. Our appointment was at 5 today.
It's like 9 .15 in the morning.
Yeah. I just got set straight here.
Did you?
Yeah. I guess they wanted you to just spend the day working on things with me
then. That's fine. Let's take a look.
What made you decide to wear that?
You told me to wear this.
Did I?
Yes.
Okay. I thought I was showing you examples of what was inappropriate to
we have miscommunication?
I guess so then because I'm more than positive.
what you told me to wear.
No, I don't... That's not what I recall, but, you know,
let's just go ahead and just move on.
Let me take a look at this.
So, do you feel like this outfit might be sending a particular kind of message?
I mean, yeah, I think, you know, it just got sent straight here and, like,
everybody was staring at me.
Okay. Well, I'm going to be able to fix that, okay?
I was the one that counseled you, and then now, though, now you've got that
attention, so when you are, like, our spokesmodel against sexual harassment,
well, people are going to really pay attention. It's going to get a reaction,
okay? It's definitely going to get a reaction.
So we're going to continue with, did you know what's inappropriate or
appropriate? So what do you feel like was going on?
Well, I mean, one of the guys actually touched me.
Oh, show me what he did.
Right there. Yeah, and then.
See, now I would say that he grabbed it. Did he squeeze like this?
Yes. All right, now I would say that.
And then another person came like really close to me.
Like how close? Like that close.
Okay, what do you think he was trying to do?
I mean.
Was he trying to maybe breathe on you?
Mm -hmm. Does that seem like what he might have been trying to do?
I mean... Or was he trying to just... Was he trying to touch your hair?
No, he didn't touch my hair, but... Did he put his mouth right in your ear?
No, he just got really close. Were you facing him when he did it?
Yes. So he was like this.
Do you think he was close enough to actually kiss you? I mean, yeah, he was
pretty close.
Um, I don't think this is, like, good. I mean, I feel like I'm in a lot of
trouble right now.
Well, I'm human resources, so, I mean, if you're not... But everybody saw me
walk in like this, and I don't... Hmm.
Well, sexual harassment is very serious, but fraternization is really just
something you get counseled for, whereas sexual harassment would clearly be
fired for. So definitely we want to make this a fraternization situation.
So for example, if you were in a circumstance
where it was a consensual kind of
situation, then everything would probably be okay.
So are you going to fraternize with me, or are you actually sexually harassing
me by wearing this?
Fraternizing? Oh.
So then things like this are perfectly... No, no, no, no, no. No,
definitely sexual harassment.
So, well, if you're sexually harassing me, then I have to write up termination
papers.
That's okay. I mean...
You'll have a clean start with the next company you start with.
I don't want to lose my job here. I just want to do a good job here.
So really, I mean, you felt like it was fraternization, not sexual harassment.
Yeah. Right?
Mm -hmm. I mean, no one dragged you into this office.
Right, yeah.
Right? Mm -hmm. You weren't threatened to be fired if you didn't wear or did
wear anything in particular.
Yeah. So those were all your own decisions.
Right, yeah.
Right. And I mean, you created situations with me twice already.
That is true.
And I didn't tell you you had to.
Right. So that means that really you're just carrying a consensual relationship
a little too far or at least being slightly inappropriate.
sharing it with the outside, right? Because no one needs to know who's
involvement with who.
Right.
Right, so that means that you basically just decided to enter, you know, enter
into a normal, healthy, adult, sexual relationship.
And we can't be fired for that.
Right, yeah. It probably can't even be written up. It might just be like an
oral, like a counseling.
Mm -hmm.
Okay. So if that's the case, then there's no reason that, you know, things
go a little further.
So we don't really have to, like, hold back. We could pursue a normal, healthy,
consensual relationship between two adults, one with a very good job and one
with a really good future ahead of her.
Mm -hmm.
Yeah.
And we already know that, I mean, you're responsive to me, too.
That could be a short -term thing. Who knows? Mm -hmm.
Yeah.
Mm
-hmm.
Mm -hmm.
Okay.
You're definitely not going to be in any trouble.
But I was going to tell him that you just need counseling after. You know, in
the middle of the day at work, every day.
Yeah.
Maybe you'll take over the human resources when I get promoted.
Oh my god.
I'm going to tell him that you needed to be counseled all day, so you'll just
spend a day in here with me.
No need to even clean up or even move. You can pretty much stay like that.
And we'll just talk about the fact that, you know, since some of the guys are
sending appropriate things, we don't have to worry about you being lost. So
we're going to just counsel you every day for the next couple weeks.
Okay. And then I'm going to send you to talk to the CEO, and he'll see if you
understand the company's stance on sexual harassment.
Okay.
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