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Today, we will focus on this match.

Bahrain versus Togo, in September 2010.

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You see in the picture that we have the players

with a question mark.

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For months or years, it was not clear

who this team was from Togo.

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At Interpol, we use this match like a case study.

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What happened?

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Give it up for Adam Fields!

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I don't know about you but I'm not really a big football fan...

Actually the match I would love to have seen...

love to have seen, was Togo against Bahrain.

Not many people know about this, but it's gone down in history

as the craziest football match ever.

So the thing is, I know a bunch of guys

who first heard this story

and they found this whole story so incredible

they decided to make a documentary about it,

and they've travelled around the world,

interviewing all these dodgy characters.

But they wanted to find out the truth

of what really happened in this match.

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Of course, the match between Bahrain and Togo in 2010...

is one that I remember perfectly well.

It was a very odd and special match.

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You are actually the first ones...

at least the first people outside of Austria...

to talk about this match publicly.

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It was the most curious and extraordinary match...

that I ever attended on the bench as a coach.

Basically in 2010, it was the Golf Cup

in the Middle East, and that's a big deal in the Middle East,

and Bahrain was taking part,

they had to have a practice match.

The coaches decided they needed three friendly matches…

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The first match was against Qatar.

They needed a second one.

But they still didn't have a team.

They contacted a man called Wilson Raj Perumal.

Remember that name, Wilson Raj Perumal.

No, I've never heard the name Wilson Perumal.

Can we google him?

Can we google him?

He was from Singapore and he had a company called Football4U.

Football, 4, U, right?

And he organised international friendly matches.

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I thnk the fact that this company,

Football4U was able to pay the air fair,

pay the hotel accommodation

and even pay their parents fee for the visiting team.

That was a very juicy deal for Bahrain FA.

Wilson Raj Perumal.

So they asked him, organise a good opponent

against Bahrain, so they could get a good practice in.

So, he knew someone at the Togo team.

Organised the Togo team, they fixed a date.

Great to have a match in Bahrain.

And my local contact in Togo was Bana.

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Yes, it's the first time that I talk about this publicly.

Before today, I was only ever questioned by a prosecutor.

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Can any of you here

actually point out those two countries on a map?

These are the two most obscure countries

you could possibly have, and that was the point,

because this was perfect for match fixing.

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Bahrain is not known for football.

When the national team plays, the stadium is as good as empty.

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However, it’s a country with some

political stature in football.

Besides, Bahrain has money.

But in the capital, Manama,

you won't see many children playing football.

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In Lomé, you will find it’s the exact opposite.

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(excited chatter)

Youth in Togo regard football as just about their only chance...

to move up socially.

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- That's exactly what gave me the conviction...

to help these players, by selecting them.

- So, Togo is a country where football is important.

It brings hope.

It was just that the Togolese Football Federation...

especially at the time of the Togo vs Bahrain match...

was in a state of total disintegration.

That's how much these players had suffered.

Their generation had been left behind.

- So: no money, no organisation.

But everyone lives and breathes football.

All the players are famous.

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So Bahrain against Togo.

- For Wilson Raj Perumal,

this match must have been stressful.

(laughter)

The trouble was, this guy, Wilson Perumal,

he kind of got the dates a bit wrong.

The Togo national team wasn't actually available that date,

and that's where all the fun begins ladies and gentlemen.

(speaking on radio)

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- I just needed a team from Togo.

But I was not aware who is the national team players,

who plays for the national team, and who has a number of caps,

and so on, I don't keep a record of all this.

- It was a last-minute thing.

He was afraid the match couldn’t take place.

So he called me for help.

He was in a situation where he had to find replacement players.

The national team would simply not make it in time.

So replacements needed to be found.

And that's exactly what I did.

- Only problem was,

there wasn't a second national team.

So this guy,

he literally got a few guys,

just off the street,

and said: "Right, you're on the national team now."

"Am I ? Oh that's nice"

(laughter)

- He was quite helpful,

but I was really surprised at why

he selected a group of amateur players.

That was a very...

tricky situation,

because I had no knowledge that they were all amateur players.

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(shouting from football pitch)

- The coach of the national team selected the players

and we left.

- It was just like any other match.

I was given notice to play. I showed up.

Yes, it was our chance.

We were selected to play from six million inhabitants.

If you're selected to play for the national team,

you can’t refuse.

- I only took eligible players

from Togo, with a Togolese passport.

- We went through the formalities,

we left Lomé together, all the players.

- Everyone was happy. We were in the national team.

- Was Bahrain aware of us not selecting the top players?

No, they weren't.

- We were just happy to have an opponent.

- To me, Wilson Perumal was a saviour.

Thanks to him, I could play matches...

that allowed me to get my teams in shape.

- I think not many people knew who Wilson Raj was

or who...

what company was this, called Football4U.

So when the bubble burst on this game,

the company became very famous.

I became very famous.

Okay can you give me two taxis?

- Thanks to him, I had the privilege of taking a trip...

with some local players, who could discover another world.

- We became good friends. I think we met in some tournament,

some kind of African tournament somehwere...

and then I spoke to him and we became good friends.

- He was a friend who was there to help us.

He helped like a friend would.

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- Bana Tchanilé, just so that everyone is clear about this...

is not a 'fake' trainer.

- Yes, they call me 'coach'.

I'm one of the few coaches with a successful national career.

Of the six seasons I coached in the league,

I won the title all six times.

In Niger I coached three teams, three teams in Burkina Faso...

one in Mali, one in Nigeria.

And about everywhere I went,

I was fortunate to succeed in my career.

- In the countries surrounding Togo...

Bana Tchanilé is sometimes nicknamed

the Mourinho of Africa.

The players trust him and he has a very African style.

- He's a good man.

He is the only coach who really loves local players.

The only one who really loves them.

- He’s more than a parent to us, all the players.

And we will be grateful for the rest of our lives.

He knows how to help us move forward...

through the difficult conditions in this country.

And it's not just me saying that.

- In Togo, before his arrest, before Bahrain vs Togo...

and before he got banned for life,

Bana Tchanilé was a true legend.

- But today, I am an informed man.

If I could work in football again, I would be a lot wiser.

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- The atmosphere at the stadium was very peculiar.

There were hardly any people.

The opposing team was nowhere to be seen.

- There were no more than one hundred spectators.

Apart from the wives and relatives of the players,

and some staff.

- Right. We arrived in Bahrain.

I noticed right away that there was...

a sort of harsh climate.

I was in England at the time.

I was supposed to be there,

but I couldn't catch the flight on time.

That was the only reason why I did not make it for the match.

During our preparation...

I decided to change my strategy.

Before, at the technical meeting,

I asked that the anthems not be sung.

In addition, I asked that the flags were not hoisted.

Normally, you play the national anthems

before official international matches.

There had been incidents during past matches.

And now we left with the wrong jerseys.

We told them that these weren't

the official jerseys from our sponsor.

These were store-bought jerseys.

Okay, and these guys were wearing Adidas.

Honestly, I have no clue.

I didn't really bother where the jerseys come from, and so on.

The play-by-play of the Bahrain vs Togo match...

is still a bit of a mystery.

There was no live coverage.

It was as good as hidden from the public.

There’s no video. Or very little.

I think I've seen the highlights before,

and this is the second or third time

that I'm looking at the highlights.

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- The Togolese players we expected,

those who played in Europe...

were nowhere to be seen.

Every one of their players was a question mark to us.

We hadn't heard of any of them.

In 2010, when I played against Bahrain,

I was the team captain.

I participated in this match as a player.

I was a Togolese player, like the others.

- Well, I told the players outright...

that this match had really been organised to avert a disaster.

Since the first team had been unavailable...

they really had to play their best game.

Give it your all, so that the score won't turn out disastrous.

The Togo team were beginners,

simple amateurs, hobby footballers.

The match started and...

it was...

very, very strange.

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- Sayed Adnan with a long pass to Salman Isa on the left side.

A cross into the box to Abdullah Omar, who passes back.

Bravo. Beautiful pass by Sayed Adnan,

who then crosses from the left…

As the game progressed...

the Togo players

couldn’t keep up physically at all.

We were struggling. Primarily because of the acclimatisation.

And also on a tactical level.

It was tough. Bahrain was in good shape.

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- A dangerous attack, and the second goal.

The second goal, also by Jaycee John.

Jaycee John scores his second goal with a final touch.

The coach tried to boost our spirits.

Usually, when I head a team, I concede fewer goals.

They just cleared the ball, right off the pitch.

It was nothing like a normal match. It was useless.

I think it looks pretty funny, because...

I see, fter the second goal,

I see the linesman lifting the flag.

Offside.

But the goal is still being given...

and it's quite strange.

Did you notice that as well?

- And in the second half,

players collapsed for minutes on end.

They cried out in pain. They cramped, or pretended to.

The referee interrupted the match for minutes.

We soon got the feeling...

that the referee team was also from Togo.

Yes. The referee Ibrahim Chaibou made the trip with us.

He came with us.

I can still recall clearly

that Josef was so furious about this match...

that I had a pretty hard time calming him down.

He was beside himself.

They whistled for made up things.

The Togo players were delaying. Unbelievable.

For every throw-in two minutes passed.

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- Under normal conditions

I would have been sent off for insulting the referee.

They tried everything...

to save their friends from a debacle.

I think that in the second half there was perhaps...

ten minutes of playing time, net.

For the rest, they either lay on the pitch

or the referee stopped play.

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- Abdullatif about to take the penalty kick.

And he scores the third goal.

After 3-0 they defended their penalty area with all players.

And with help from the linesmen they kept it 3-0.

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- The further the match progressed,

the more obvious it became...

that there was something fishy going on.

I had no knowledge of what was going on

because there was no live

or there's no online live match going on for this game.

We were not involved. That day we had a bad referee.

It's clear that the referee was

the lead actor in this situation.

Because, well...

Every time the ball went towards the Togo goal...

He immediately whistled and stopped the game.

So that's how the match was played.

But there's another layer to the story.

There’s a story on the pitch.

And in the background, the match tells a story

about sports betting.

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(motorbike engine)

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(knocking on door)

(door opening)

Good afternoon, how are you?

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Well at that time, I was Head of Security at FIFA.

And, we had...

no real information before the match,

we had no information during the match that it was...

subject to at least some integrity issues.

So...

the internet was not busting with

articles about match fixing at that period of time.

FIFA wasn't going to the match, FIFA didn't observe the match.

In those days we only had the early warning system...

which was a very small unit

that was looking at the betting trends.

But don't forget most of these matches

were not bet on the legal market.

So looking at the legal market wouldn't have shown...

the possibilty of a betting fraud was taking place.

It was actually in the illegal market,

the black market, out of China, out of Southeast Asia.

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Basically nobody knew that I was a match fixer,

who actually streamed match fixing and so on in Singapore.

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Wilson Raj Perumal, in my opinion...

is a legend in the world of match-fixing.

I have fixed quite a lot of friendly matches.

It was afterwards, when he was arrested in Finland

that we found out the full details

of that particular match.

And he sits safely, as a protected witness, in Hungary.

So, after this match, when problems started to come up...

we got to see the true face of Wilson Perumal.

- Well my life took a differnent turn, after my school days.

I grew up in a society where

match fixing was so common, and so rife.

Match fixing at that time, my time, was not a crime.

So, I became a gambler and...

I was told by a friend of mine, that there's some people-

all the people who are gambling on football matches

at a certain stadium

called Jalan Besar stadium in Singapore.

Things got a little harder. We were losing money.

Then I... I used another option, to rig matches.

I booked my own football stadium

and we did quite a healthy sum of money,

maybe about 15,000, 10,000 euro

that was the first match that I rigged.

I don't quite like to watch football matches

for the entire 90 minutes.

We don't look at football in the manner of a football fan.

So, I go into this football game

with the hope of manipulating this match.

I think Perumal does love football.

But as an instrument.

An instrument that enables him sustain, or did enable him...

to sustain an addiction, a need for adrenaline.

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(shouts from football pitch)

- I am a fan of money.

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- I prefer to approach black people...

So I find that it's easier to work with black people,

than to work with white people...

because...

I've been to England before, some time in 1995.

I did approach one or two people,

and I see that white people are...

have principles and they don't want to lose football matches,

and... their mindset is completely different.

- I would say that Wilson Raj Perumal is...

a cold-blooded animal.

- Even I myself, I've played football

and if somebody were to offer me a couple of hundred dollars

to lose a football match, I would not want to do so.

I want to win.

But if you put 100,000 or 200,000, then my...

there's a possibility that my principle might change.

So what do you do? You approach players who maybe need money.

Who are paid much less.

- It proved to be very simple to Perumal,

to corrupt people in football.

- I usually bring them out for a drink,

claiming to be a football agent,

I can put them in a respectable club and so on...

I try to buy them football boots,

or some kind of iPhone or sone latest gadget.

So as soon as he takes this gift from me,

then he's more committed to me, so he will not make-

lodge a police report against me, or something like that.

So that is like a business loss that I'm prepared to...

prepared to forego, even if he doesn't cooperate with me.

(boy strikes ball)

And once I get one player,

that particular player may lead me to a couple of his friends.

Then we have maybe 4 or 5 guys.

He's a typical criminal really.

But he's...

he's not so intelligent, but he was able to do

so much harm to football.

Which shows how vulnerable football is,

and was, to corruption, for people like Wilson Perumal.

So when I have the sufficient number of players,

then the ball gets rolling.

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(indistinct commentary)

So, I had everything worked out for that match.

To be manipulated in the manner I would want it to happen.

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- Bahrain vs Togo was a real source of stress for him.

But as a person who runs on adrenaline,

is addicted to the game and loves risks...

he manages to talk about it today

almost as if it was a big joke.

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I was in London, in Wembley.

And what happened was that

we had some dispute with my taxi driver

who was driving us to the airport.

And he left us stranded at some point in time...

halfway, and he didn't want to travel,

because he said if you know the route, you drive it by yourself.

So he took a hotel room in London...

where he followed the match via his mobile phone.

A first or second-generation iPhone.

Not as advanced as today's ones.

And with this mobile phone he carried out his operations.

So what we needed to do was, to check whether...

the team was able to perform up to the required standard,

to fight Bahrain.

There you are. Typically, for Bahrain vs Togo.

They followed this match live...

to decide their strategy during the match.

A lot of people around the world, and particularly in Asia,

like to gamble on football matches.

And this match was no exception, people could follow

the match on line, the score, you know read the scores...

in real time, and place bets in real time.

Like how many goals would there be, when would they be scored...

We need three goals in this match, and that's it.

It doesn't matter who scores, so we just...

put money on the total number of goals.

And that's what I do.

Perumal is part of a syndicate out of Singapore.

But it's not a Singaporean syndicate really, it's a...

Chinese syndicate.

And the head of that syndicate was a man called Dan Tan.

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- Dan Tan is known in these circles...

as the one who pulls the strings of the fixer.

Someone who doesn't go to stadiums, or works the players.

But his role is to take the bets.

To organise the bets on the fixed matches.

Dan Tan was one of six people that were in this syndicate.

Dan Tan was implicated in the Bahrain vs Togo match.

That is to say, Wilson Raj Perumal offered him this match.

And Dan Tan financed it.

I arranged the match,

the manipulated match and then Dan Tan uses...

his sources to throw the bet in China.

So the betting house is another professional people

who are trained

who have the ability to fulfill how much you want to bet,

and so on...

- Four touches and it's a goal,

only nine minutes into the first half.

And... 8 minutes or 9 minutes, 1-0.

So we haven't placed any bet yet.

1-0. So what do we do?

Ten minutes in, I knew that this should be a double-digit win.

If the scoreline is 5-0, we lose our money.

During the match, behind the scenes,

Dan Tan got nervous and called Perumal.

I said "You hang on a second, let me check with Bana

if the team can hold Bahrain. Then we will go the other way.

So just bear with me for five minutes, I'll call you back."

So I called Bana...

(phone ringing)

- Well. He made telephone contact...

through one of his agents, who I'd never met.

He came down from the stands to ask me something. I said: No.

I said "Bana, how is the team performing?

Do you think they can withstand?"

"Can we stop them from beating us by 3 or 4-0?"

I can't accept instructions from the stands.

Right, so no more goals until I tell you so.

Pack the defence, put all your 11 men back there.

I can't accept instructions from the stands. So I cut him short.

(sound of fans cheering)

- I didn't know this was a fake team, so I took a gamble.

(phone ringing)

I called Dan Tan, I said: "Collect the bet.

Alright, don't worry. I have referees and I have 11 players.

And I don't see ourself losing 5-0."

Okay, so what do you do? You start collecting.

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(sound of fans cheering)

- The problem was that

something was brewing in the betting world.

There were a lot of people punting

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in favour of Bahrain to win the match by 4 or 5-0.

They had all anticipated that

Togo was there to lose the match.

But I think only me, Dan Tan and two of my friends

who were in the apartment together with me, probably knew

that we were doing a betting against

Togo losing by a healthy margin.

So, but...

Our man Wilson, now he's a smart guy.

He wasn't taking any chances,

no, he paid off the referee as well.

Of course he did.

So, we were planning to hold the score until the 85th minute

and probably concede one more, and that's it, 0-3.

So this was my game plan.

Okay, so around 40 minutes into the game,

Dan Tan called me and he said he needed one goal now.

He wants Togo to concede one.

So, I had to call Bana.

No, that message... I never got it, at any moment.

Not before and not during the match.

I said "I'll tell Ibrahim Chaibou we need one goal now.

Concede one goal."

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- Strange decision by the linesman.

He passes into the box, a fine assist.

A great attack. And Jaycee John's second goal.

Jaycee Johns scores his second goal.

Congratulations to everyone in the Bahrain National Stadium.

- Ibrahim Chaibou fixed innumerable matches,

around the world for Perumal.

And Perumal's methodology of fixing matches

elevated from trying to recruit players, corrupt players,

to corrupting team managers and coaches,

and then finally, to corrupting referees,

because he found that to be the most effective.

This referee is considered by many

to be the biggest rigger of matches.

I didn't even know that it was Perumal who hired the referees.

It is my duty to assemble a team to play

in Bahrain on the FIFA calendar day.

So that was my responsibility, and...

I also encouraged Bahrain FA

to place my referees and my linesmen for the match.

Whether it was done by Bana Tchanilé or

whether it happened at another time...

the referee Ibrahim Chaibou, also known as 'The Iron Man'...

was told to limit the number of goals.

Rather than allowing many goals,

he should limit them to less than four.

So what happened was 2-0 was the first half scoreline.

And 65 minutes, the score is 3-0.

3-0.

- Our national team scores its third goal.

The 65th minute, Ibrahim Chaibou gives a penalty to Bahrain.

I said "Why would he want to give a penalty

at this point of time, it's still very early

he cannot, how are we going to hold?"

But Perumal was in direct contact

with the referee, Ibrahim.

According to almost everyone present, the referee then

changed his tack.

He stopped the game

under any pretext, every little contact.

Perumal couldn't go through me, the coach...

to instruct the referee. He had his own channels.

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(typing sounds)

- Rest assured that this is the real Togolese football team.

Their identity's been in some doubt,

ever since a group of imposters

appeared in the national colours,

for a friendly match in Bahrain.

So who were the phony team?

They're thought to be professional players

from Togo's 1st or 2nd Division,

though no one knows for sure.

Though it might sound like something from a comedy film,

the incident's provoked anger in Togo.

- After the 90 minutes I think I look at it

in a very hilarious manner.

Firstly, I think this whole thing is so funny,

that I was able to succesfully

get the result that I want with just a mobile phone.

Right? And secondly, I was able to get a volume

of half a million euro, which was beyond what I could believe.

I think you could best describe Perumal...

as a fox.

He thinks twice before showing his cards.

(tense, suspenseful music)

- In Europe,

a football player can live comfortably off their earnings.

But in Togo, a top league player...

earns between 20 and 40 euros per month.

20 to 40 euros per month is not enough to support a family.

When Bana called the players to say:

"You have the chance to play on the national team...

a national team selected from local players..."

Everybody said yes.

- It's important. Very important. We have nothing.

A football player in Togo can’t even afford a bicycle.

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(video playing on laptop)

(indistinct Arabic commentary)

- I don't think many people realise

the size of the global betting market.

It's between 1.5 and 2 trillion dollars a year.

Now that's the size of national economies,

of very big countries.

I don't handle how much each player received,

but we payed 60,000 as a sum for this match.

In between Togo and Bahrain.

It was 25,000 dollars or 12 million CFA francs.

We had to share that between up to 25 people.

(typing sounds)

I earned 200,000 CFA francs.

I don’t know about the others. I was the team captain.

I got 200,000.

- 200,000 CFA francs is roughly 300 euros.

It was something for someone with empty pockets.

It really amounted to something. And that's why I said earlier:

Perumal was someone

who helped us to help our young people.

(suspenseful music)

The bubble burst, because one Togolese FIFA agent

went to lodge a complaint that, how could Togo play this match?

And where did these players come from,

who were the players and so on.

This story about the fake team, this phony team...

really created a commotion.

- This was a mixture

of embarrassments and scandals that,

I think shocked people.

Because it was so bold, so brazen.

And what we're seeing since the fake Togo team,

it was the beginning of you like of a realisation

of how serious it was.

Yet, how almost humorous it was.

That this was so easy to corrupt.

And I think that that message,

was taken by me at that time.

That there was this arrogance

of the criminals behind it, that they didn't care anyway

that it was a junior team mascot -

"We can get away with it, because no one really cares."

So this triggered a very big investigation within Togo.

Then they went to FIFA and then FIFA went to Bahrain.

And then the local press...

"Football4U is a company from Singapore.

Wilson Raj Perumal..."

So... it became a wildfire.

(suspenseful music)

(traffic, horns beeping)

- When Bana Tchanilé returned home

after the Bahrain vs Togo match...

he was arrested.

We were truly surprised and shocked.

Suddenly we heard that the coach had been arrested.

We were very surprised and disappointed.

And...

We were disillusioned.

Because the coach, as I said, gave us players so much.

The players decided not to talk.

Some of them were interrogated by the police.

But the majority hid from the public eye...

and refused to talk to the media.

Because they were afraid.

I want to talk with my face blurred, because...

first of all, for my safety.

In this country, bad things can happen.

- They arrest those who tell the truth.

We know that because Coach Tchanilé was arrested.

He’s an honourable man.

- So just to finish this story off guys,

you're probably wondering - "What happened at the end?"

I'll just make this short - what happened at the end.

Basically, FIFA just snapped into action,

and immediately took measures to...

of course they didn't, it's FIFA...

(laughs)

FIFA did what FIFA does, and they just went:

"Hmm, I dunno about this, uh..."

(laughs)

- Meanwhile, it was the talk of the town.

This match became a textbook case in football education...

as well as in police academies...

and for Interpol when they do presentations on match-fixing.

- For a variety of reasons, I can't talk about what happened

in my functions at FIFA, because FIFA have...

have reminded me many times, over the past few years,

of my confidentiality obligations.

But I can talk about the generality.

FIFA haven’t done their job, according to their own articles

according to its regulations.

You have to hear someone out before judging them.

But they haven’t. I don't know why.

It was a very good job, very highly paid job and a very...

travelling every week, almost.

For most people, it would be a dream job.

Well for me it was a nightmare,

because I could see how manipulated

and manipulable FIFA was.

This non-investigation raises questions.

You can't help but wonder whether FIFA...

at some level wanted to avoid scandals on both sides.

It was shocking to me, and...

essentially, I left in 2012 for that reason.

This match has been shrouded in mystery.

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It was either a mystery or

the ruthlessness to apprehend people...

and then punish them when they are innocent.

(clapping)

- He's a good coach.

- We're praying for FIFA to remove his sanction.

And the guy from Singapore,

who actually is the mastermind behind it all.

This is the best bit. This is what happened to him.

- People may not like me for what I did,

but indirectly, they have to also say that I am a person

who has brought this to the attention,

and they have to wake up.

(typing sounds)

If they don't wake up,

somebody else is gonna hit them like that once again.

So I will say that I am an eye opener.

And that I have been able to...

knock FIFA's door and say that

"You have to do something more

than what you are doing right now."

By talking about it, we grant him the favour...

of ensuring that he won’t be forgotten.

It allows him to go down in history

as the biggest match-fixer ever arrested.

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- In hindsight,

if only I had known about the notion of match-fixing...

I would have been more attentive.

But back then, the thought never crossed my mind.

- It's not visible to these guys.

That's why you need to have investigations.

That's what you guys realise,

that's why you have investigative journalists.

- Of course when it happens to a sport that is so dear to me...

that I live for and that supports me,

it's obviously a disaster.

I would like to win money from football,

than to love football,

because the love for football

is not gonna put food on your table.

(laughs)

But he wants to put his shady past behind him,

and wants to become a better person.

So... not only is he a protected witness.

He's now actually become a Jehovah's witness.

We're working in the right direction, as a family,

because I would like to see my children grow up

as God-fearing people, and responsible citizens.

So, I think I should set a good example.

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- You asked for a fee for this interview.

Why did you ask a fee for this interview?

Because I have been approached by plenty of reporters

asking me questions and...

"What is your opinion of this and that?" and all...

So I usually tell reporters that...

basically I am tired of interviews.

I have done enough police interviews over the years

that I am so tired to answer questions.

And I have a family, I need money,

so if I'm contributing something,

my time for this and I'm being honest with my answers.

(typing sounds)

- Okay guys, thank you.

Good night, enjoy the rest of your evening.

(clapping)

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