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Cities are, in many ways,
the greatest invention
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that human beings
have brought to the world.
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Cities have been expanding
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and urbanization has been
expanding on the globe
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in an exponential fashion.
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Most extraordinarily,
we are urbanizing people
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on the planet, at maybe
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one and a half
million people every week
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In less than 2 months
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there'll be the equivalent
to another Los Angeles
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metropolitan area
on this planet.
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This scale and speed
of urbanization
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has never, ever happened
in human history.
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This is the first time.
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When you look at
what is being built in cities
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you have endless, endless
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row after row
of homogenizing towers.
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And you see more
and more highways.
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At this moment, you're
going to shape the cities
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for generations to come.
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People need to realize
this is an opportunity
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which will never come again.
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There are a couple of ways
of approaching
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the design of cities.
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The question is always
who decides..
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...what the physical form
will be..
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...how the city
is going to function
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and who is going
to live in the city.
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In order to understand
what's happening today..
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...we need to think
about 2 great figures
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in the middle
of the 20th century
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who embodied the struggle
for the city.
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The legendary power broker
Robert Moses
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represented the authority
of the great man
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who was gonna come into the
city with his carving knife
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and clear away
the cancerous tissue..
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[Crash]
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...and replace it
with the shiny implements
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of modernist planning.
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Uh, you have to move
a lot of people out of the way
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of a big housing, uh, project
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or, uh,
slum clearance project.
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A lot of 'em
are not going to like it.
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Many of them are misinformed.
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In opposition
to the homogenizing clarity
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of Moses was Jane Jacobs.
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I have very little faith, uh
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i -- in, in even
the kind of person
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who, uh, prefers
to take a large overall
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uh, view of things.
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Jacobs was an outsider.
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She believed the city
is not about buildings.
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The city is about people.
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It is about public spaces
and the street
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and she stood up for that.
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She evolved both a theory
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of what made a good
and just city
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and a theory of opposition
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to the kind of planning practice
that Moses represented.
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There's a prudishness,
a fear of life
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a wish to direct things from some uncontaminated refuge
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that is part and parcel
of their bad plan.
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They were famously at odds
with each other.
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It really did become a war
between opposing forces.
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Today we're still fighting
these battles
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across the world.
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When we look across the
spectrum of all the problems
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generated by urbanization
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there is the extraordinary
realization that, my gosh
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you know, these have been
problems that have been around
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for the last 100 years
in cities.
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New York, of course
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is the greatest example
of that.
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In the 1930s
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New York was the world's
greatest city, you know?
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A very special place.
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Just the exuberance
of metropolitan life
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in the early 20th century.
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That's, you know,
the -- the great age
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of the first
real great skyscrapers.
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You know,
the Empire State Building
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is the very climax of that.
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But then,
it all kind of crashes with The Depression.
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Through the entire decade
of the '30s
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it's just one problem
after another.
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Down at street level
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was this degraded environment.
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Slums and dirt
and, and pollution
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that did not fit
with the glorious spires
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of the new skyscraper city.
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The city was overcrowded
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harsh, dirty, dangerous
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and infested with disease.
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Jacob Riis' famous book
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"How The Other Half Live"
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brought a lot of attention
to this.
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The idea was, we will solve
the city's problem
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by cleaning it up.
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Now this is a unfortunate
period for the city.
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We've done an immense amount
to cure these diseases
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and we have much more to do.
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Robert Moses
started to work in an era
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where we had a great many people
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living in truly
horrible conditions.
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He began his professional life
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in opposition
to those conditions.
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Moses emerged out
of the Progressive Movement
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early in the 20th century
in New York.
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The progressives were eager
to improve the city.
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His early work
in developing public parks
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and public beaches
was about making life better
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for people who were not rich.
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Now if we don't
clean out these slums
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the central areas
are going to rot.
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And it's all nonsense to say
that the problem can be solved
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by rehabilitating and fixing up Old Law Tenements.
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It can't be done.
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That problem
we've got to face.
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Just about every progressive
believed
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that the way to solve
the city's problems
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was to wipe the slate clean,
start all over again.
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We didn't understand
how high the price was
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how we were giving up
so many things
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that were so very important
until Jane Jacobs came along.
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Jane always would see
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in a city opportunities
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that existed there.
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She observed
hints of regeneration
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hints of creativity
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hints of resourcefulness.
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It was this life spring
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of people coming
to make their way.
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I think that must have shaped
her approach to the city.
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I just loved
coming to New York.
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It was inexhaustible.
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Just to walk around
its streets and wonder at it.
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So many streets different.
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So many neighborhoods different.
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Uh, so much going on.
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She lived
in Greenwich Village
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and just viscerally felt
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the pulse of the city
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and was
extraordinarily intuitive.
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Was extremely observant.
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New York was a place
where you don't have to be
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big and important and rich
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or have a great plot of land
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or a great development scheme
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or something like that
to do something.
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And maybe
even do something new
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and do something interesting.
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A place that has scope
for all kinds of people.
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What she saw
was the soul of New York
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and what it meant to be a city
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and a city meaning
a community of people.
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After the war,
the most sensational thing
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that came was the full flowering
of this vision
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of the expressway tower city.
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This generation of idealistic
city planners comes along
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and they're infected with the modernist purity idea.
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And they certainly have
the tools at their disposal
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to sweep away
large tracts of land.
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We recognize the problems
that your community faces
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and we know that you share them
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with hundreds of cities
everywhere.
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Now what's involved in making
your city a better place?
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Well, things like housing
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industrial development
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better streets and highways.
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Improving all these things
adds up to a better city.
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I'm sure that you will see
the exciting opportunity
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that exists for your city
to become better.
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There was this emerging idea
that crowded urban areas
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where people were kind of
hanging out on the street
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on their stoops, uh, where
there was a lot of poverty
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that the way
to deal with that problem
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was to effectively
get rid of the streets.
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Was effectively to eliminate
that sidewalk culture.
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And build projects that would
make it impossible really
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for people to kind of cluster
in public in that way.
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The idea of urban renewal
was that
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places that were blighted
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were a cancer on the city
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and therefore, we're gonna
cut out the cancer.
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The planners conceiving
these urban renewal projects
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are doing this from that
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God-like vantage point
in the sky.
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To be able to look down
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and you're able to imagine
massive transformations.
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They thought
that applying the logic
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of The Machine Age
was gonna do that.
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The problem had to be solved
by some supervisor
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noticing where the slums were,
noticing where the traffic was
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and going in and bulldozing..
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...and building
grand projects.
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Well, we got out
a brochure just now
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telling when everybody
has to move.
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Robert Moses was
the great embodiment of this.
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I don't honestly believe that
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considering the large numbers of people we've had to move out
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of the way of public housing
and other public improvements
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I don't believe
that we've done
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any very substantial
amount of harm.
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There must be people
who are discommoded
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inconvenienced
or call it what you will
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on the old theory,
that you can't make an omelet
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without breaking some eggs.
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After the Second World War
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Robert Moses
began to amass power.
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He was the august
parks commissioner
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in the city of New York.
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And he got power
to build parkways.
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He was appointed the city's
construction coordinator.
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He built
thousands of apartments.
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He became urban renewal czar
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the head of the mayor's
committee on slum clearance.
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By the time
that Moses was running
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the Urban Renewal Program
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we had torn down
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literally thousands
of tenement buildings
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in cities like New York
and Chicago.
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You know, there's the,
the pre-war Moses
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and the post-war Moses.
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The pre-war Moses
was mostly an angel.
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Post-war Moses
was increasingly problematic.
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For nearly half a century
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this man has pushed people
around New York.
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Almost anybody
who is anybody has cursed him
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fought him, knuckled
under to him and admired him.
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The list of his adversaries
include Franklin Roosevelt
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Fanny Hurst, Elmer Davis
who once compared him
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to Hitler, Walter O'Malley
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and hundreds
of thousands of landowners
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who thought
their property was sacred.
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Absolute power
corrupts absolutely
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and Robert Moses
was absolutely powerful.
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So he had amassed,
um, not simply
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an incredible amount of power
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but had insulated himself
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from oversight
by political authorities
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and by the broader public.
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Don't forget that
it's one thing to buy a park
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or a great big chunk of land
from one owner.
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It's quite another thing
to get a right-of-way
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where hundreds and even
thousands of people own it.
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You theoretically and,
according to some of the, uh
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goo-goos
and uplift organizations
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we ought to negotiate with every
individual until he's happy.
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Can you imagine
when you'd build anything
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under those conditions?
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Moses along
with all of the people
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that were involved
in the Urban Renewal Program
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had an agreed-upon agenda.
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People needed adequate housing
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adequate recreation facilities
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and the motorcar
was coming to America
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and it needed to be
accommodated on a large scale.
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That was the agenda.
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Moses became one polar view
of what you could do.
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Until, all of a sudden,
there was an alternative.
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Jane Jacobs has in
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"The Death and Life
of Great American Cities"
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written a book that advances
with the controlled
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and implacable power
of a bulldozer
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against modern orthodox city
planning and rebuilding.
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I first began
to look into city planning
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and, and housing
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and it was unbelievably awful.
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Uh, insane.
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When "Death And Life"
comes out in the '60s
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it's a clarion call.
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It's Martin Luther
nailing those 95 theses
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to the, to the cathedral door.
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The book is really
the first cogent
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accessible articulation
of a whole set of ideas
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that questions the mainstream
thinking about our cities.
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She is constantly probing.
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By that example, she's saying
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"You, reader, you have
the ability to question."
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"Look what we have built.
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"Low-income projects
that become
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"worse centers of delinquency
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"vandalism and general
social hopelessness
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"than the slums they were
supposed to replace.
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"Middle-income
housing projects
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"which are truly marvels of dullness and regimentation..
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"...sealed against any buoyancy or vitality of city life.
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"Luxury housing projects
that mitigate their inanity
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"or try to
with a vapid vulgarity.
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"Cultural centers
that are unable to support
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"a good bookstore.
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"Civic centers that are
avoided by everyone but bums
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"who have fewer choices of
loitering place than others.
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"Expressways that
eviscerate great cities.
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"This is not
the rebuilding of cities.
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This is the sacking
of cities."
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She was questioning orthodoxy
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and in essence saying
the emperor has no clothes..
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...at a time
when women were not welcomed
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in those kinds
of environments.
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If you wanna see what kind
of a city can flourish
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you need to look at the cities
where it's happening.
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There must be a lot
of diversity
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continually building up,
diversity of kinds of work..
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...diversity
of kinds of people.
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She revealed the way
to create better cities
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is by working with the people
who live there
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and the fabric that existed.
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The traditional fabric
that people inhabited.
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There have to be
areas of the city
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which people use a lot,
walking on the streets
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and use at all times of day.
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Jane understood neighborhoods
need lots of connections.
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Short blocks, lots of turns
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allowing different
kinds of interaction.
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Neighborhoods need a mix
of buildings, old and new.
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They need diverse uses, 24/7,
so that they're safer.
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Constant connection with,
uh, neighborhoods around
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so that you're not isolated.
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You need public spaces
that are accessible to people.
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It's all a great network
in the city.
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It's all related.
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She observed these early,
early qualities at a time
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when housing was being built
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in completely
opposite direction.
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They were
isolating communities.
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They were creating
dead-end streets.
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They were separating work uses
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and recreation
and residential uses.
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She was explaining
how life worked.
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Before "Death And Life,"
she was a journalist.
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She was a very savvy observer
of human behavior
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of places, of cities.
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Jacobs started writing
about the city
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when she was 18 years old.
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She was a secretary
for a candy company.
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She was determined
to write on the side.
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She did what any good
enterprising writer would do.
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She got freelance jobs.
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Her curiosity
was so remarkable.
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She writes about specific
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economic districts
in the city.
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She does the Jewelry District
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she does the Fur District,
she does the Flower District
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and she develops a voice.
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And where does
she sell them to?
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"Vogue" magazine.
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She was writing pieces
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about what she was observing
and seeing in the city.
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"The best way
to plan for Downtown
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"is to see
how people use it today.
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"To look for its strengths
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"and to exploit
and reinforce them.
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"There is no logic that can
be superimposed on the city.
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"People make it.
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"And it is to them,
not buildings
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that we must fit our plans."
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"Q Magazine" accepted
one of her stories
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about manhole covers.
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She discovered that they had
all kinds of interesting
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uh, patterns on them,
interesting lettering.
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How many female journalists
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were writing
about manhole covers?
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Nobody. But she was.
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She wanted to figure out how
the sewer system was working.
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She's curious.
She's got a really good craft.
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She knows how to write.
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And she finds herself
in a staff job
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with "Architectural Forum."
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Mrs. Jacobs,
an associate editor
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of the magazine
"Architectural Forum"
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has been a New Yorker
for 27 years
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and loves it,
Mrs. Jane Jacobs.
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[Applause]
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Thank you very much,
Mr. Dolbier.
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One fine day,
"Architectural Forum" put me on an assignment
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about some urban renewal
projects that were being done.
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In Philadelphia,
as a matter of fact.
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We have found, in our work
in rebuilding Philadelphia
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that a central design idea,
well-developed
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and clearly-expressed,
can of itself
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become a major creative force
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and can make more meaningful
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the work of individual
architects
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in various parts of an area.
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I found out
what they had in mind
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and what they were
planning to do
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and how it was going to look
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according to the drawings
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and what great things
it was going to accomplish.
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I came back and wrote
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enthusiastic articles
about this.
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All was well,
I was in very cozy
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with the planners
and the project builders.
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Anyhow, time passed
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and some of these things
were actually built.
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Society Hill is residential.
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The oldest part of the city,
it is the site
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of an intensive
restoration project.
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Houses, many pre-dating
the American Revolution
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slowly had grown dilapidated
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and had been converted
to other uses.
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In addition,
there was room for new
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dramatically contemporary
apartment towers.
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Society Hill emerges
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as a combination
of ancient and modern.
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But they didn't work at all
the way they should've worked.
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The city around them
didn't react the way
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uh, theoretically
the city around them
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should have reacted.
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She is the
hyper-sensitive antennae
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you know, that's picking up
something here
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that no one else is seeing.
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Why did stores that looked
very cheerful and posed
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to, uh, be doing a great
booming business in the plans
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actually go empty
or languish?
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Well, I would bring
these questions up
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with the people
who had been responsible
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for the, uh, planning
of these places.
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And I got quite
a lot of alibis
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boiling down to,
uh, "People are stupid.
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They don't do
what they're supposed to do."
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And this was a great shock
to me.
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Never mind highfalutin
theories and so forth.
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What are we looking at?
What are we seeing?
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Do you wanna trust some theory
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that somebody figured out sitting in an office somewhere?
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Or do you wanna trust
what you actually see
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out there with your own eyes?
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Maybe the experts
didn't really know
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as much as they
pretended to know.
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About this time, a gentleman
came into the office
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of the "Architectural Forum."
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He was very much worried
about East Harlem.
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About 300 million dollars
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uh, worth
of city rebuilding money
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had been put to work.
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He could see
that their problems
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were growing greater than they had ever been in the past.
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She goes up to Harlem
and she was taken around
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by William Kirk
of the Union Settlement House.
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And he's showing her
all the things
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that are being lost
in this community
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when it's being demolished.
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He would walk me
around East Harlem.
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We would stop in at stores
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stop in at housing projects.
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I began to see the..
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Just out of the accumulation
of all of this
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I was beginning to understand
how things worked.
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Many little details
of cause and effect.
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She describes it
as the very beginning.
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The sort of moment
when the light bulb
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kind of went off in her head.
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What I was seeing,
in fact, was, uh
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what makes the very intricate
order of the city.
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This has to do with a quality
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that's called
rather vaguely urbanism.
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Cities are extremely
physical places.
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It's not an inert mass.
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It's enterprises and people
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reacting in certain ways
to each other
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and mutually supporting
each other.
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And wherever
it worked properly
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there seemed to be
an awful lot of diversity.
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Many different kinds
of enterprises
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many different kinds
of people
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mutually supporting
and supplementing each other.
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Jane Jacobs is thinking about
how does a neighborhood work?
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How does a street work?
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What function
does a sidewalk play?
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But what she's really after
is a new theory
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of how cities function.
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"In Death And Life
Of Great American Cities"
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she's asking what is
the problem of a city?
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She argues,
"A city is a problem
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of organized complexity."
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Looks on the surface
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like it's complex
and disorderly..
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...but in fact, there's
an underlying structure.
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Looks like chaos, but in fact,
there's a balance.
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There's a productive mix
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of different functions
and organisms.
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She draws
on ecological metaphors
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biological metaphors
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to suggest how
it's really an ecosystem.
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She wrote..
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"To see complex systems
of functional order
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"as order and not as chaos
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takes understanding.
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"The leaves dropping
from the trees in the autumn
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"the interior
of an airplane engine..
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"...the entrails
of a dissected rabbit..
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"...the city desk
of a newspaper..
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"All appear to be chaos
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"if they are seen
without comprehension.
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"Once they are seen
as systems of order
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they actually look different."
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Jacobs understood
when cities really work
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they're phenomena that come
from the bottom up.
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So a great neighborhood
is what happens
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when thousands
of different actors..
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...and that's the shopkeepers,
the bar owners
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the people walking the streets
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they spontaneously
come together
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in, in an uncoordinated
but meaningful way
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to create the kind of flavor
and personality
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of a distinct neighborhood.
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That's not planned.
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That's much more a question
of organized complexity.
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Jane Jacobs understood that
living cities are not pretty.
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They're messy, uh, chaotic
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dense with people
interacting together.
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Dead cities are beautiful
in a certain sense
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because they tend
to look predictable.
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There aren't very many people.
521
00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:36,500
If you can understand a city,
then that city is dead.
522
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:42,100
Living cities are congested.
523
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,000
They're frustrating.
524
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,500
And at the same time, that's
where your dreams come true.
525
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,700
Planners, they don't see any
of the wondrous human qualities
526
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,000
that Jacobs is seeing.
527
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,500
The very forms of urbanism
that she wrote about
528
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,500
the urban renewalists
sought to destroy.
529
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,800
What would you do for Harlem?
530
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:37,000
- The slum corner of Harlem.
- Yes.
531
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:40,000
I'd take that and all
the other similar slums.
532
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,000
I'd tear 'em all out,
every bit of 'em.
533
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,300
It's a cancerous thing
534
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:45,300
and you've just got
to wipe them out.
535
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,300
I say that you have
a cancerous growth there
536
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,700
that has to be carved out.
537
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,000
Alright, you've carved it out
538
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,400
and now you've replaced
it with something new.
539
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:55,600
Yes, that's right.
540
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:57,100
With something that's decent
541
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,100
something that involves
light and air
542
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,000
and, uh, new schools
and playgrounds and parks.
543
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,600
And I'd say that's a hell
of a big contribution
544
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:07,400
and certainly
all the contribution
545
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:09,000
that I would be able to make
546
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:11,200
with all the people
I can persuade to make it.
547
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:15,600
Instead of following
the natural way
548
00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:17,900
that people use space
549
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,900
city planning
in this post-war era
550
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,900
and modern architecture
created
551
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
this abstract vision
of what it should be.
552
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,600
Concentrated on the utopian
and the ideal.
553
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,800
In the 1920s,
you get the rise
554
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,800
of this curious,
mystical figure
555
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:49,800
um, out of Switzerland
556
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:52,100
uh, who calls himself
Le Corbusier.
557
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,100
He's done some architecture
and he's bethinking himself
558
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,900
not only an architect,
but a great urban visionary.
559
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,900
The real gestation
of his ideas
560
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,500
about modernist urbanism
561
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,700
that came as a result of riding in an airplane over Paris.
562
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,200
Seeing the city
from up in the air
563
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:16,100
looking down God-like
on this diorama
564
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,100
versus considering and knowing
the city from the streets.
565
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,200
Corb was enraptured
by the airplane.
566
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,200
He writes that the airplane
indicts the mess
567
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,100
we've made of our cities.
568
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,500
Before the wheels
hit the tarmac
569
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000
he's concluded that we need
to sweep all this away
570
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,900
and rebuild our cities.
571
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:43,800
Le Corbusier envisioned
tearing down
572
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
huge sections of Paris..
573
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:50,100
...and replacing it with slabs
574
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:53,000
modern slabs,
cruciform buildings.
575
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,000
He proposed superhighways
576
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,100
that went through
green open space.
577
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:05,900
And they were going
to terminate in superblocks.
578
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,700
And the superblocks
had high-rise buildings
579
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,400
and the high-rise buildings
580
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,100
were so that people
could have light and air
581
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,900
and they could get out
of the slums.
582
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,900
He was thoroughly
of the opinion
583
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,300
that if you had,
uh, good architecture
584
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,000
the lives of people
would be improved
585
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,400
and that architecture
would improve people
586
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:25,800
and people would improve
architecture
587
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,500
until perfectibility
would descend on us
588
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,900
like The Holy Ghost
and we'd be happy forever after.
589
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,100
Corb did this plan
and made his models
590
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,200
and, uh, it excited
a lot of people.
591
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,600
But in France,
they weren't so excited.
592
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:45,300
The idea of the Ville Radieuse
and the tower in a park
593
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,000
ended up, uh, moving to America
594
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,900
just like the rest
of modernism did.
595
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,800
To help us get a glimpse
into the future
596
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,300
of this unfinished world
of ours
597
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,700
there has been created
for the New York World's Fair
598
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,500
a thought-provoking exhibit
599
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,400
of the developments
ahead of us.
600
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:13,400
In 1939, General Motors
had an exhibition.
601
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,500
The Futurama.
602
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,600
It showed superhighways.
603
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,000
And everybody in America
wanted this.
604
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,100
Here is an American city
replanned
605
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,400
around a highly-developed
modern traffic system.
606
00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:31,100
Rebuilt and replanned.
607
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,400
Residential, commercial
and industrial areas
608
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,700
all have been separated
609
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,900
for greater efficiency
and greater convenience.
610
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,600
The '39 World's Fair
in New York
611
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:58,900
was a Corbusier event.
612
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,300
It celebrated that style.
613
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,400
And so we see some suggestion
614
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,800
of the things to come.
615
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:09,800
A world with a future
616
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:14,100
in which all of us
are tremendously interested
617
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,300
because that is where
we are going to spend
618
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,200
the rest of our lives.
619
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,800
In a future
which can be whatever
620
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:25,900
we propose to make it.
621
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,400
Modernism moved
into the mainstream
622
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:44,700
of both American
commercial architecture
623
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,100
and urban renewal.
624
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,800
The public housing model that
we picked in the United States
625
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,000
was a misinterpretation
of Le Corbusier.
626
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:57,500
The towers in his 1923 plan
627
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,900
were for offices,
and then around the towers
628
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,700
were low 7 story buildings
with generous balconies.
629
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,000
He never called for people
630
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,400
living in high-rise towers.
631
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:13,300
It was one
of those odd moments
632
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,900
where a set
of intellectual ideas
633
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,900
could be corrupted
very quickly and easily
634
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,200
into something
cheap and commercial.
635
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:26,900
The simplest formula to make
quick money is modernism.
636
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,100
And it was very cheap,
very quick to produce
637
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,900
and could suddenly enable
638
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,600
huge amounts of building
to happen very quickly.
639
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:38,900
And Robert Moses
totally understood that.
640
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,600
The one thing
missing completely
641
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:47,200
from that vision is streets.
642
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,700
And the idea that a street is
something you actually walk on
643
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,700
and a street is a place
where things happen.
644
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,400
Jane Jacobs saw that at a time
645
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:59,200
when everybody else
was thinking the sidewalk
646
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:02,800
was a kind of foolish leftover
of another age.
647
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:12,000
"This is something
everyone already knows.
648
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,800
"A well-used city street
is apt to be a safe street.
649
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:18,400
"A deserted city street
is apt to be unsafe.
650
00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:21,600
"But how does this work
really?
651
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,600
"There must be eyes
upon the street.
652
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,500
"Eyes belonging to those
we may call
653
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,300
"the natural proprietors
of the street.
654
00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:34,300
"The buildings on a street
equipped to handle strangers
655
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,200
"and to ensure the safety of both residents and strangers
656
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,900
"must be oriented
to the street.
657
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,400
"They cannot turn their backs
or blank sides on it
658
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,200
and leave it blind."
659
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:51,000
Philosophically,
what she recognized was
660
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,100
safety doesn't come
from armed security guards
661
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,100
or blocking the entrances.
662
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,100
What makes a neighborhood
great is precisely the fact
663
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000
that there are people
on the street.
664
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:06,500
"The sidewalk must have users
on it fairly continuously
665
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,100
"both to add to the numbers of effective eyes on the street
666
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600
"and to induce the people in
the buildings along the street
667
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:14,100
"to watch the sidewalks
in sufficient numbers.
668
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:18,700
"Nobody enjoys sitting
on a stoop
669
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,700
"or looking out a window
at an empty street.
670
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,300
"Almost nobody does
such a thing.
671
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,300
"Large numbers of people entertain themselves off and on
672
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,400
by watching street activity."
673
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:34,000
She went out
and looked at things.
674
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:38,200
When she said that the doormen
were paid eyes on the street
675
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,300
and that the same thing
could happen
676
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,600
from bars on the street
in West Village
677
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:45,500
I understood
what she was talking about.
678
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,600
Nobody has to worry
about things
679
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:50,400
where there are a lot
of people on the street.
680
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:57,700
Jane Jacobs reverses
the vantage point.
681
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,300
What is it like actually
to live in these places
682
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,300
from street level?
683
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,900
And it's that simple
change of perspective
684
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,500
that lead her away
from the orthodoxy of the time.
685
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,500
Robert Moses had no interest
really in paying attention
686
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:19,400
to what was there
in neighborhoods.
687
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:22,600
What was there, he viewed
as simply an obstacle
688
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:24,700
to what he wanted
to make happen.
689
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,000
People oppose Moses
all the time.
690
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,300
Whether he wanted Lincoln
Center for the performing arts
691
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,400
a bridge across the entrance
to New York Harbor
692
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:39,400
a parking lot where mothers air their babies in Central Park
693
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,000
a highway down the spine
of Fire Island
694
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,600
or one through the middle
of Washington Square
695
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:47,000
vehement opposition
was what he expected
696
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,200
and what he got.
697
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:51,300
Oh, there's opposition
to everything
698
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,500
that's, uh, progressive,
everything that's new.
699
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,800
The opinion of people
who were activists
700
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:00,800
as we were in the village
701
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:04,500
were Robert Moses was terrible
702
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,500
and Robert Moses
was destroying the city
703
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,900
and Robert Moses
had to be stopped.
704
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:13,400
Jane had got involved
in several efforts
705
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:16,900
to stop Robert Moses from
ripping the city to pieces.
706
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Starting with the, uh,
his attempt
707
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:21,200
to run Fifth Avenue down
through Washington Square.
708
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,100
The first time
I became aware
709
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,300
of the threat
of what the highways
710
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:37,000
were doing
and could do to New York
711
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,800
was when along came the plan
712
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:43,000
to push Fifth Avenue through
Washington Square Park
713
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:46,900
and down below it
as a continuous street.
714
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,600
They, uh, wanted to have
the Fifth Avenue buses
715
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:52,800
go through the park
716
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,500
down into West Broadway
717
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,300
and change the name of that
718
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,400
to Fifth Avenue South
719
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,800
so as to make it
more valuable for rents.
720
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:06,200
And that was
a Robert Moses project.
721
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:08,500
This wasn't in the abstract
for Jane Jacobs.
722
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,400
This was happening
close to home.
723
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:11,700
Right in her backyard.
724
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,800
This was where
she brought her kids
725
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:16,900
in strollers
to play in that park.
726
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:27,200
It was the campus
for a university.
727
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,800
It was the front yard
728
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,800
for neighborhood kids
growing up.
729
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,400
It was a true reflection
of a diverse neighborhood.
730
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,300
This is The Circle.
731
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,800
On weekdays,
it's a wading pool for village kids.
732
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:50,600
But on Sundays,
the water is turned off
733
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:52,400
and the circle becomes
a meeting place
734
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:55,800
for guitarists,
bongo and banjo players
735
00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:59,100
villagers on a stroll,
folk singers and tourists.
736
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:04,800
To me and to many others,
we were outraged
737
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,500
about a road going
through Washington Square
738
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,700
and we were going to save
Washington Square Park.
739
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,900
Washington Square
was really Jane Jacobs'
740
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,100
beginning as a civic activist.
741
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,800
All of the activists,
myself included
742
00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:22,800
were involved in trying
to stop that.
743
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:25,000
The leaders there
744
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,200
included, uh, Jane Jacobs
745
00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:30,100
and Shirley Hayes.
746
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Shirley Hayes and Edith Lyons
747
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:35,700
uh, were the 2 women
748
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,600
who started the, the fight
against the roadway
749
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:41,400
in Washington Square Park.
750
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,400
Jane was not deferential
to power.
751
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:58,400
So she ups the ante on that
Washington Square fight
752
00:45:58,500 --> 00:45:59,800
and says,
"I'm gonna write the mayor."
753
00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:06,400
"I have heard with alarm
and almost with disbelief
754
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:08,600
"the plans to run a sunken
highway through the center
755
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:09,600
"of Washington Square.
756
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,600
"My husband and I
are amongst the citizens
757
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:15,600
"who truly believe in New York
758
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:17,300
"to the extent
that we have bought a home
759
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,400
"in the heart of the city
and remodeled it
760
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:21,900
"with a lot of hard work.
761
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,000
"It is very discouraging
to do our best
762
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:25,400
"to make the city
more habitable
763
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,700
"and then to learn
that the city itself
764
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,900
is thinking up schemes
to make it uninhabitable."
765
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,100
Jane's example
that she set for herself
766
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,800
is an example
for other people to follow.
767
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,300
If a highway is coming through
768
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,000
that's going
to be very destructive
769
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,500
and you know
it's an idiotic thing
770
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,000
you fight that highway.
771
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:52,200
Protest against stultification
and the status quo
772
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:54,100
and things that touch you and your neighborhood directly.
773
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,000
I think she was effective
774
00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:59,300
because of the force
of her personality
775
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,800
and the fact that
she was able to mobilize
776
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:03,300
a lot of people.
777
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,400
And Margaret Meade
and Susan Sontag
778
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:07,900
and all the various folks
that Jane was involved with
779
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,200
were drawn to the tangibility
of this particular fight.
780
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:22,700
They get too many critics.
781
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,600
They get too many mud-throwers
782
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:27,000
too many people who foul
their nest and there we are.
783
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:28,400
That's our trouble.
784
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:29,700
Too many people sitting around
785
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:31,800
calling names like Mumford.
786
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:34,200
People that,
what do they contribute?
787
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:36,300
You have any problem
to solve, any difficulty
788
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,100
you'd never call upon them.
789
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,300
Call upon them
for four-letter words.
790
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,600
They don't even have very good
vocabulary in my book.
791
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,800
Robert Moses wasn't used
to anybody saying no to him.
792
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,800
He'd fire off these letters
793
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,900
to people of,
uh, Greenwich Village.
794
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,800
"I realized that
in the process of rebuilding
795
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:00,300
"south of Washington Square
796
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,300
"there would be
cries of anguish
797
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,500
"from those
who are honestly convinced
798
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,100
"the Sistine Madonna
was painted in the basement
799
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,200
"of one
of the old buildings there
800
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:11,900
"not presently occupied
by a cabaret or speakeasy.
801
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,100
"That Michelangelo's David
was fashioned
802
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,900
"in a garret
in the same neighborhood.
803
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,800
"And that anyone
who lays hands
804
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:23,800
"on these sacred landmarks
will be executed
805
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:26,200
"if he has not already
been struck down
806
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:28,000
by a bolt from heaven."
807
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:33,400
They managed to show Moses
as this bully
808
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:36,400
and they, they got
a lot of important people
809
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:38,900
on their side,
including Eleanor Roosevelt.
810
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,800
I would feel very strongly
811
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:44,900
that destroying the Square
812
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,500
by putting a large artery
813
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,100
for traffic through the Square
814
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,800
would harm
not only the Square itself
815
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:56,700
but the whole neighborhood
816
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,400
and really the city.
817
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:02,200
I'm not opposed to change.
818
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:05,000
In fact, I believe in change.
819
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,700
But I think
that good tradition
820
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,200
has to be preserved.
821
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:15,200
Jacobs was
a brilliant strategist
822
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:18,200
when it came to civil action.
823
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,800
She had a real sense
for the photo op.
824
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:22,700
In Washington Square Park
825
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,600
she arranged for her daughter
and another girl
826
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:29,200
to conduct
a ribbon-tying ceremony.
827
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:30,500
This, of course,
was the opposite of
828
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,100
the ribbon cutting ceremony
829
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,300
the politicians loved to,
uh, celebrate
830
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,600
with public works.
831
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,300
It was at one of the hearings
832
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,600
where Moses was foolish enough
to say that
833
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:45,800
nobody's against us
except a bunch of mothers.
834
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:48,400
How could he be so tactless?
835
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:50,100
Only if you think that people don't matter at all
836
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,900
could you make
a statement like that.
837
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,000
She was a housewife.
That's how they treated her.
838
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:58,700
I mean, of course, she was
a professional journalist.
839
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,500
That was not somehow..
840
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,400
When you want to dismiss her,
you just say
841
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,600
there was this housewife
from Hudson Street.
842
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:08,400
Try to mess
with a bunch of mothers.
843
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:10,000
Uh, I think that
844
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:12,400
he underestimated what the, uh
845
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:15,200
effectiveness of these mothers
might in fact be.
846
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:18,900
Literally thousands
of people turned to
847
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,600
and it took quite a few years,
but did save it.
848
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:25,400
It ended up being
an extraordinarily
849
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:28,400
potent opposition,
which he'd never met before.
850
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,500
Moses had never
met this before.
851
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,300
He had his, he had it coming.
852
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,700
Washington Square Park
was certainly
853
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,800
the first, uh, public defeat
for Robert Moses
854
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,700
and it was a, uh, uh,
a major chink in his armor.
855
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:50,100
The battle
over Washington Square
856
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,200
is, is Jane's first taste
of victory.
857
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,600
Not long after
the Washington Square victory
858
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:01,000
"Death And Life" is published.
859
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:04,900
And Bennett Cerf,
head of Random House
860
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,800
sends a copy to Robert Moses.
861
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,500
And Moses sends it back.
862
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,000
"I am returning
the book you sent me.
863
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:19,800
"Aside from the fact
that it is intemperate
864
00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:21,300
"and inaccurate..
865
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,600
"...it is also libelous.
866
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:28,500
I call your attention,
for example, to page 131."
867
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:34,300
"Robert Moses has made
an art of using control
868
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,800
"of public money
to get his way
869
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:39,800
"with those whom the voters
elect and depend on
870
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:42,200
"to represent their frequently
opposing interests.
871
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:47,900
"This is, of course,
in other guises
872
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,100
an old, sad story
of democratic government."
873
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,500
He didn't even wanna recognize
874
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,400
the existence of the book
or of Jane.
875
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,200
Others, uh, were also,
uh, not charitable
876
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:07,500
including Lewis Mumford.
877
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,400
Lewis Mumford,
the great architectural critic
878
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:13,500
for "The New Yorker,"
his famous review of her book
879
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,700
had the title
Mother Jacobs' Home Remedies.
880
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,200
He's immediately telling you
881
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:21,200
Jane Jacobs was just
this sweet, old lady
882
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,600
trying to get some homeopathic
medicine into the city
883
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:26,600
instead of doing
the serious surgery
884
00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:28,600
that a real doctor would do.
885
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:33,200
Right around the time
886
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:36,000
of "Death and Life
of Great American Cities"
887
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,500
ironically,
her own neighborhood
888
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,400
of the West Village,
the very neighborhood
889
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:44,400
that she had,
had proclaimed as a model
890
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:46,700
for what neighborhoods could be
891
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,700
was earmarked
for urban renewal.
892
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,800
Moses was commissioner
of, uh, housing
893
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:59,700
in the urban renewal effort
to build more public housing
894
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,400
in New York City.
895
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:03,800
He actually stepped down
from that position
896
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:05,500
but before he did
897
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,100
he designated
the West Village
898
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,400
as eligible
for slum designation.
899
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:22,400
I got the book
finished finally
900
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:26,900
and thought, ah, now I can
think about something else.
901
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,100
And for 3 weeks
902
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,000
I did think
about other things.
903
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,800
Then I opened the
"New York Times" one morning
904
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:39,600
and found that our own area
of the West Village
905
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:43,800
was going to have an urban
renewal project in it.
906
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,500
She really didn't think of
herself as a community organizer
907
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,400
as a, a street fighter
or that sort.
908
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:49,800
She was a writer.
909
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:52,900
She did not appreciate
the distraction.
910
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:55,600
She really didn't,
but she knew she had to do it.
911
00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:58,000
She was sad. I mean,
she would shrug her shoulders.
912
00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:00,100
What can I, what can I do?
913
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,500
You know that thing
about an inert object?
914
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,200
Well, there is nothing
more inert
915
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:11,100
than a government bureau.
916
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,900
There's nothing more inert
than a planning office.
917
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000
It gets going
in one direction
918
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:20,000
and it is never going
to change of its own accord.
919
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:24,300
So I suddenly had to put
into practice my own premises
920
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,700
that if anything was
going to happen to reverse
921
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,100
the way things were being done
922
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,300
then the citizens had
to take some initiative
923
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,900
and the citizens had
to frustrate the planners.
924
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,400
I thereupon
began to devote myself
925
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,400
to frustrating planners.
926
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:46,700
And so did
the whole neighborhood.
927
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:51,000
Jane calls a meeting
of local residents
928
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:52,900
at The Lion's Head
929
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,100
a favorite
neighborhood hangout.
930
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,900
Organizes people to speak
at public meetings
931
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,600
and gets everybody
to wear sunglasses
932
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,100
with an X painted on them.
933
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,700
They were fairly sophisticated
934
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,600
I think, in the tactics
that they would employ
935
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:18,700
and they're tackling somebody
who's been writing
936
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,900
for a living
for a couple of decades
937
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,900
and knows how
to make an argument.
938
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,900
We all knew one another
and were constantly planning
939
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,100
on how to, uh,
get the mayor on our side
940
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,100
and how to threaten him.
And we did.
941
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,100
We got him on our side.
942
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,600
She filed a lawsuit
against the city of New York
943
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:40,100
to try to block
the urban renewal plan.
944
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:45,500
"I think
that the time has come
945
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,700
"to put the West Village
946
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,400
"urban renewal proposal
to rest.
947
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:52,400
"Promptly remove
the West Village designation.
948
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,600
Cordially, Robert F. Wagner."
949
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:00,300
They prevailed and, uh,
at the end of the day
950
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,600
the slum designation never
happened in the West Village.
951
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:10,400
She effectively showed the people of Greenwich Village
952
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:12,600
that they could fight city hall
953
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:15,800
that they did not
have to accept
954
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:19,800
the plans of the planners
at their drafting tables
955
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:23,600
and that they could
reject those lines
956
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:25,700
being drawn
around their homes.
957
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:30,400
We need to understand
Greenwich Village
958
00:56:30,500 --> 00:56:33,700
is a proxy here for a wave
959
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,700
that was starting to take
hold in the United States
960
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,300
where there was
increasing resistance
961
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,100
to centralized authority.
962
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:46,000
Her strategy
was certainly informed
963
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:49,800
by other struggles that were
going on at the time.
964
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:51,800
Within 3 years of each other
965
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:54,000
Jacobs published her book.
966
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,100
Uh, Betty Friedan published
"The Feminine Mystique."
967
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,400
Rachel Carson
published "Silent Spring."
968
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:01,800
The Environmental Movement.
969
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:05,800
Civil Rights.
970
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:09,000
The movement
for decent cities
971
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:10,700
feminism, you know
972
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,200
all were being born at once
973
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:15,700
and all were sharing tools
974
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,300
of propaganda,
of local organizing
975
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,000
of civil disobedience.
976
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,000
Jane Jacobs was perhaps
the most articulate voice
977
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,900
of a movement that now seems
978
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,400
merely common sense.
979
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Any city that's
tearing down its buildings
980
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:38,700
just to make money
for a development
981
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,500
or, uh, just to have novelty
982
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,900
is doing something criminal.
983
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,300
A fella who gets up
in the upper stories
984
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,800
of a, of a
public housing project
985
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:03,800
where he has a view,
what's the matter with him?
986
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:05,700
He's got a nice place
to live, hasn't he?
987
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,800
I think that the objection
that some might have
988
00:58:10,900 --> 00:58:13,400
was that the view is just
of another housing development
989
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:14,800
and another highway.
990
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,200
No, I don't concede that.
991
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,600
It wasn't just
that they wanted
992
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,000
new housing
in place of the old.
993
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,700
They wanted an entirely
different-looking city.
994
00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:41,100
Robert Moses
and his constituency
995
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,700
wanted it all to be
very simplified
996
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,300
very sterilized.
997
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:50,100
It was the hubris
of Moses and his ilk.
998
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,100
The idea that we're gonna
rearrange the spaces
999
00:58:55,300 --> 00:58:58,700
and therefore,
we're gonna rearrange the social relations.
1000
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,100
It had to do with this
towers-in-the-park mentality.
1001
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,400
It had to do
with the creation
1002
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,300
of a new form of ghetto.
1003
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,100
Whole downtowns
were being bulldozed
1004
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,800
in the name of people,
but not for the people.
1005
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:18,000
They were destroying lives
1006
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:21,100
and replacing them
with these housing projects.
1007
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,000
And why?
1008
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:25,900
Because it was making
a lot of people
1009
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,400
a lot of money.
1010
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:31,000
It was making developers
a lot of money
1011
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:33,600
politicians a lot of money
1012
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:35,800
and it was fast money.
1013
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:39,900
So they kept doing it
over and over and over again
1014
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,800
in cities
all over the country.
1015
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,100
It was several years
1016
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,900
after Robert Moses had begun
building these projects
1017
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,900
that the other cities
caught up.
1018
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,800
What they were building
was the Corbusier model.
1019
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:12,000
You saw the kind
of building of these
1020
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,900
uh, these housing projects
across the United States.
1021
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,700
You know, 25 story
block apartment buildings
1022
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,100
with playgrounds
and gardens around them
1023
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:23,600
that looked great
in all the drawings.
1024
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,500
Here in bright, new buildings
1025
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,900
with spacious grounds,
they can live.
1026
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,200
Live with indoor plumbing,
electric lights
1027
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:35,000
fresh plastered walls and the
rest of the conveniences
1028
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:37,200
that are expected
in the 20th century.
1029
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:41,500
In these projects,
children can play in safety
1030
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:44,100
on the wide lawns
1031
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,200
not in the littered alleys
and vacant lots.
1032
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:52,600
We must make sure
that every family in America
1033
01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:56,200
lives in a home of dignity
1034
01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:58,700
in a neighborhood of pride
1035
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,300
and a community of opportunity
1036
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400
and a city of promise
and hope.
1037
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,900
But what ended up happening
is nobody ever hung out
1038
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,800
on, uh, in the kind of
public space around these
1039
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:14,400
uh, projects
and so they became
1040
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:16,300
these under-populated places.
1041
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,100
And they actually
very quickly became
1042
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,500
some of the most dangerous
places in the world.
1043
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,300
Concentrated poverty.
1044
01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:26,200
This was a,
you know, the really
1045
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,700
the worst thing
about, uh, the projects
1046
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,500
and therefore, amplified
all of the pathological
1047
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,100
and antisocial elements
of poverty.
1048
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:40,700
These institutions
became fortressed.
1049
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,000
You become cornered.
You feel cornered.
1050
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,700
You feel trapped.
1051
01:01:44,900 --> 01:01:47,100
They left people
more vulnerable.
1052
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,800
Public housing
became places of fear.
1053
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,100
High-rise fortresses
like these
1054
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,100
were built this way
to save money.
1055
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,900
In the long run,
they didn't even do that.
1056
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,800
The problem was
that they were all wrong
1057
01:02:02,900 --> 01:02:05,300
for the people
who wound up living in them.
1058
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,100
Rural blacks, broken families
1059
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,000
allowed in and to stay in
1060
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,900
only if their incomes
were low enough.
1061
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,800
Most cities now are engaged
1062
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:21,000
in something
called urban renewal
1063
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:22,600
which means
moving the Negroes out.
1064
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:24,800
It means Negro removal.
That is what it means.
1065
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,300
And the federal government
is an accomplice to this fact.
1066
01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:30,800
Now this, we are talking
about human beings.
1067
01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:34,000
There's not such a thing
as a monolithic wall
1068
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:35,500
or, you know, some abstraction
called Negro problem.
1069
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,500
These Negro boys and girls
1070
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,300
who at 16 and 17 don't believe
1071
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,700
the country means
anything that it says
1072
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,200
and don't feel that
they have any place here.
1073
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:45,800
The phrase, Urban renewal
is Negro removal
1074
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,900
was an acknowledgement
by African-Americans
1075
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,900
that, that this was
an assault.
1076
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:53,900
Removal is in the sense of
1077
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,900
out, over there,
away, far away.
1078
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,800
Some place inhospitable
where you can just die.
1079
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:03,000
And a huge part of
what happened to people was
1080
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:05,100
that they were put
in inhospitable places.
1081
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,600
And African-Americans were put
in at the margins of the city
1082
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:11,900
in places that were,
could barely support
1083
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,400
the vital kind of life
that people need to prosper.
1084
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,800
It's as though the builders
have not realized
1085
01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:20,700
that children
would be living there
1086
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,300
nor did they foresee the crime
1087
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,100
the vandalism, which is really
the acting out of rage
1088
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,300
and self-loathing
that can make people want
1089
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,700
to destroy their own property.
1090
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:32,200
People had lived
in communities
1091
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:34,100
that were messy,
but they worked.
1092
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,800
People had social capitals,
people watched
1093
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:40,000
each other's child
when somebody was not there.
1094
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:42,700
All this
was actually taken away.
1095
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,200
People had
no investment emotionally.
1096
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:49,500
People resented these projects
that had been built for them
1097
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,400
because they were poor.
1098
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,200
So you see
a lot of windows broken out.
1099
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:57,900
They all were broken out
by children throwing rocks.
1100
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:01,000
And, uh, what's more natural
than children throwing rocks?
1101
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,000
They don't have
nothing else to do.
1102
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:06,000
There's absolutely
no recreation facilities here.
1103
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:07,900
And, uh,
the playground like this
1104
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,800
is a mockery
for thousands of children.
1105
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,300
Tenants had no input
as to what they wanted.
1106
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,000
Uh, it was built
because somebody said
1107
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:19,800
this would be good
for children to play on.
1108
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,000
There were
graffiti everywhere
1109
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:27,100
and there were drug problems
and all the problems
1110
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:29,200
that you can imagine come from
1111
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:32,000
when you uproot people
without their will.
1112
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:36,700
And what do you expect, that
they will love these projects?
1113
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,900
No, that wasn't gonna happen.
1114
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,200
Pruitt-Igoe,
if you really see
1115
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:49,600
an, uh, an aerial view of it
1116
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:52,700
those buildings were spaced
quite a distance apart.
1117
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,700
If you took them
and threw them on their faces
1118
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,200
which is where
they should've fallen
1119
01:04:58,300 --> 01:05:01,700
you will get lovely housing
20 feet high.
1120
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,200
You can take a look
at a little exercise here
1121
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:08,100
that if these towers,
these slabs
1122
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,500
are removed from the towers
1123
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,400
you begin to see
a different attitude
1124
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:14,900
of what is visible.
1125
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,200
You begin to see through
the site
1126
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:20,900
as opposed to looking
at a slab of buildings running.
1127
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,500
One thing, the tenants
are really stressing
1128
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,200
is for a low-rise building
1129
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:29,300
closer to a home.
1130
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,500
Something that
they can relate to.
1131
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,900
What we are trying
to do here
1132
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,900
is to take a given situation
1133
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,200
and try to bring it back
1134
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:42,500
to a community where people
would want to live.
1135
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,000
After thinking
about the problem
1136
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:06,300
of the
Pruitt-Igoe Housing Project
1137
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,400
the city planners blew it up.
1138
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:10,500
[Explosion]
1139
01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:17,800
Just dynamited it away.
1140
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,000
The projects end up
being tremendous failures.
1141
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:30,900
You know, we know all
about that failure now.
1142
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,100
And everywhere they existed
1143
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,000
30, 40 years later
1144
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:36,800
they're all being torn down.
1145
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:55,200
You can't put streets back
where you took them out.
1146
01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:57,000
You can't put stores back.
1147
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,500
You can't put the daily life
and all the institutions.
1148
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,000
It takes generations to build up those institutions.
1149
01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:10,500
That's what was eliminated
by these projects.
1150
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,600
[Explosion]
1151
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,900
The superblock urbanism
of the modernist ilk
1152
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,000
that Jane Jacobs,
uh, writes about
1153
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:32,000
is, is destroying cities.
1154
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:33,900
You also have,
at the very same time
1155
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,100
the automobile
being rammed through.
1156
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:41,900
This causes as many problems
1157
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,000
as the urban renewal projects.
1158
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,900
The most profound influence
1159
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,400
on the city
in the last hundred years
1160
01:07:52,500 --> 01:07:54,200
has been the automobile.
1161
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,500
The decision
made almost inevitable
1162
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,100
was to drive the freeways,
the interstates in some
1163
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,200
right through the cities
and through neighborhoods
1164
01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:08,900
whose value city elites
and developers
1165
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,400
wanted to ultimately reclaim.
1166
01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:16,400
We wouldn't have
any American economy
1167
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:18,100
without
the automobile business.
1168
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,000
That's literally true.
1169
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:22,600
I believe that
that this is a great industry
1170
01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:24,900
that has to go on
and has to keep on turning out
1171
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,700
cars and trucks and buses
1172
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,800
and there have to be places
for them to run.
1173
01:08:28,900 --> 01:08:31,300
There have to be modern roads.
1174
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,700
The first of Moses'
commandments for progress
1175
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,000
is thou shalt drive.
1176
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,000
Jane Jacobs was
one of the very first people
1177
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:47,800
to say the car is not supreme.
1178
01:08:47,900 --> 01:08:49,800
The people who walk
on the sidewalk
1179
01:08:49,900 --> 01:08:52,300
are what makes the city.
1180
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,600
It isn't hard to understand
1181
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:57,000
that producing
and consuming automobiles
1182
01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:00,500
might seem all-important
to the management of Ford
1183
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,500
and Chrysler
and General Motors.
1184
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,300
But it's harder to understand
why the production
1185
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,400
and consumption of automobiles
should be the purpose of life
1186
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:11,300
for all the rest of us.
1187
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:17,000
Moses was about realizing
1188
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:20,500
a very particular vision
of the American dream.
1189
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,900
That was, you know,
what's good for General Motors
1190
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,200
is good for
the United States of America.
1191
01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:27,000
I'm privileged to present
1192
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:29,100
the winner
of the Grand National Award.
1193
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,200
Robert Moses of New York.
1194
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,400
Robert Moses, New York City
Construction Coordinator
1195
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:41,000
is a world-famous
highway planner.
1196
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,200
A man who knows his business.
1197
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:49,900
What he was really doing was
tearing up vital neighborhoods.
1198
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,300
For example, in the South Bronx
1199
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,500
where he built
the Cross Bronx Expressway.
1200
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:08,000
This was the single most
destructive decision
1201
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:10,000
ever made about US cities.
1202
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:11,800
The Cross Bronx Expressway
1203
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:13,900
an artery
whose history was marked by
1204
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,500
such gigantic problems
of construction, financing
1205
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,300
relocation
and organized obstruction
1206
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,000
that it took 17 years
to complete.
1207
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,100
The Cross Bronx Expressway
ripped through the heart
1208
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,500
and the middle of the Bronx
1209
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,100
creating
what was a wall between
1210
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,800
what eventually was known as
1211
01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:44,800
the northern and the southern
part of the Bronx.
1212
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,500
Robert Moses thought
he'd get away with anything.
1213
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,800
Who's gonna stop him?
1214
01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:52,900
He's got all the city
politicians on his side
1215
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,500
because he's bringing
a lot of federal money
1216
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,200
from the
federal highway program.
1217
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:02,500
And that gets passed around.
1218
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,500
Today our greatest
1219
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,200
single problem
is tenant removal.
1220
01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:12,700
The, uh, tendency on the part
1221
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,700
of people in politics
1222
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,700
as well as those
who are living on these
1223
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,000
rights-of-way
who are immediately affected
1224
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:24,100
is to assume that the people
who are doing this job
1225
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:26,100
are unsympathetic.
1226
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,400
They're even sadistic.
1227
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,500
Well, of course,
that isn't the truth at all.
1228
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,200
When Moses would ram the
Cross Bronx Expressway through
1229
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:40,000
it was not just breaking down
the physical structure
1230
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:41,600
of that borough literally
1231
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:44,100
so south and north
become different
1232
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,400
but the community.
1233
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:49,700
When you remove
the daily life
1234
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,800
when you remove the stores,
you remove the places
1235
01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:56,300
that constitute
where they spend time
1236
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,500
what we would call
the public realm
1237
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,000
the sidewalks, the bars,
the grocery stores
1238
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:04,300
you remove the city.
1239
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,200
And that's what
Jane Jacobs says.
1240
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:09,900
You draw away the people
with a prescription
1241
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,000
that is guaranteed
to hurt cities.
1242
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:15,300
Well, you have to bull it
through. You've gotta do it.
1243
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,400
It's like all these, these
things that have opposition.
1244
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,700
The fact that 2000 people
come and agitate
1245
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,600
against the extension
of an expressway
1246
01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:25,800
doesn't prove that you're not
gonna build the expressway.
1247
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:32,400
So many of the problems
of the South Bronx grew directly
1248
01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:36,000
out of the devastation caused
by building that expressway.
1249
01:12:38,900 --> 01:12:41,000
Which, of course,
became totally gridlocked
1250
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:42,900
15 minutes after it was open.
1251
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,100
I mean, Moses thought
he was improving the city
1252
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,900
by bringing it up-to-date
1253
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,800
by making it work
for the automobile.
1254
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,500
And as it became clear
1255
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,000
that urban highways
were, in fact
1256
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:02,100
uh, profoundly destructive
1257
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,000
it really became a battle
between opposing forces.
1258
01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:11,500
Of course, in Lower Manhattan
1259
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,400
uh, Moses,
uh, wanted to build a road
1260
01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:17,400
right across,
um, uh, the city there.
1261
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:18,900
The Whole Cast Iron District
1262
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,000
would've been
basically obliterated.
1263
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,400
The Lower Manhattan Expressway
1264
01:13:26,500 --> 01:13:30,900
was to have connected
the Holland Tunnel
1265
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,400
with the Williamsburg
and Manhattan Bridges.
1266
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:37,500
It would've destroyed
most of SoHo.
1267
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,900
We would've lost one
of the greatest inventories
1268
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,100
of 19th century buildings,
not just in New York
1269
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,400
but in the world.
1270
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:49,100
The highways, of course
1271
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,700
destroyed the neighborhoods
1272
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,300
that they went through.
1273
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,100
Where was this going to end?
1274
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,000
The whole place was going
to be laced with highways.
1275
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:01,200
What would we have left
of Manhattan?
1276
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:08,900
On any day of the week,
if you walk along Canal Street
1277
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,000
and it's often faster
than riding
1278
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,900
this is what you'll see.
1279
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,600
The crush of endless
waiting traffic.
1280
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:18,700
Now look at the solution.
1281
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:21,700
A Lower Manhattan Expressway
1282
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,600
only practical
highway crossing
1283
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:24,700
serving the Lower Manhattan
1284
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,500
commercial
and business districts.
1285
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,400
Can we afford to let
one section of our city
1286
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:33,300
slowly strangle in hopeless
traffic congestion?
1287
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,300
There was an awful campaign
against that neighborhood.
1288
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,700
It was called
Hell's Hundred Acres.
1289
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,000
A bottled-up,
stagnating section of the city.
1290
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:46,300
No new private buildings
erected in 30 years.
1291
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,000
A valley
of economic depression.
1292
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:53,600
The need is urgent.
1293
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:57,500
We must have a Lower Manhattan
Expressway now.
1294
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,400
The local priest
in a church on Broom Street
1295
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:05,500
had heard about Jane's
1296
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,300
successful defenses
fighting Moses
1297
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,100
and asked if she could help.
1298
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,900
Father, what effect do you feel
1299
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,600
that the expressway will have
on the neighborhood?
1300
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,600
Well, the expressway will,
will destroy the neighborhood.
1301
01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:31,800
This is the worst thing
about these monumental plans.
1302
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:35,600
There is no way there
1303
01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:38,100
that old buildings
can easily be torn down
1304
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:39,600
and new ones put up.
1305
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:41,500
Old things adapted
to different use.
1306
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:45,600
It's settled.
1307
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:47,400
Well, that's not planning
for the future.
1308
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,100
Reminded of some
of the opposition
1309
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,200
to his longtime dream
for an expressway
1310
01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:57,100
across Lower Manhattan
1311
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,500
Moses was specific
about what it takes
1312
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,300
to override
the inevitable roadblocks.
1313
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:03,900
You gotta move people.
1314
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,400
And that,
the political leaders
1315
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:08,600
naturally, if they have
people ticketed
1316
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:10,800
and they know where they are
and they vote right
1317
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,700
they don't wanna move 'em
and have 'em go somewhere else.
1318
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,700
What I try to do,
uh, in New York
1319
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,100
what we've done successfully
in other places
1320
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,400
which is to pay more money
to people in cash.
1321
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:23,800
Come take the money
and go away.
1322
01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:25,400
You got people who rent.
They don't own anything.
1323
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,200
So what different does it make
1324
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:29,900
when you're talking
about a, uh, an expressway
1325
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,100
that costs
84 million dollars?
1326
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:34,900
Stop being victims.
1327
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,400
I think it's wicked
1328
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:38,800
in a way, to be a victim.
1329
01:16:38,900 --> 01:16:40,900
It's even wickeder
to be a predator
1330
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,500
but it's wicked to be
a victim and allow it.
1331
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,400
You can't, as an individual,
you can't do anything
1332
01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:52,000
but you can organize.
1333
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:55,000
If you're being victimized
by an expressway
1334
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:57,500
that a bureaucracy
is putting through
1335
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,100
for the benefit
of the automobile people
1336
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,100
then you fight that you refuse
to be a victim of that.
1337
01:17:04,700 --> 01:17:05,900
What effect do you think
this will have
1338
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,100
on the neighborhood itself?
1339
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,700
It will destroy
the neighborhood.
1340
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,300
It's one of the few
neighborhoods that you can..
1341
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,500
A woman can go down the streets
at night and be safe.
1342
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,200
And the women know it
and I know it.
1343
01:17:14,300 --> 01:17:15,800
2 or 3 o'clock in the morning
1344
01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:17,300
the men are sitting
in the cafes
1345
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,000
and they're watching you,
taking care of you.
1346
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:20,700
You wanna build
up neighborhoods like this.
1347
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,100
They say let's get back
to the old, safe neighborhoods.
1348
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,300
This is it!
1349
01:17:28,900 --> 01:17:31,900
Memorandum to Arthur Hodgkiss
from Robert Moses.
1350
01:17:34,300 --> 01:17:37,700
"The Lower Manhattan
will move very soon.
1351
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,600
Please keep an eye on it."
1352
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,400
Mr. Simon,
are you saying that
1353
01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:45,800
they're trying
to sneak it through?
1354
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:47,900
I would say it's a sleeper.
1355
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,900
If this thing is passed, uh
1356
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,000
these are how
these things happen.
1357
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:54,900
If they're not watched,
uh, it's a sleeper.
1358
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,600
Who do you think
is pushing this?
1359
01:17:56,700 --> 01:17:59,000
Well, uh,
there's only one man
1360
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:01,900
that I can think of
that can be pushing.
1361
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,800
They seem to think
that they have a choice.
1362
01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:05,600
That they'd rather stay
in the houses
1363
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:06,900
that they've lived in
all this time.
1364
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,300
The whole federal
arterial aid program
1365
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:12,000
running into billions of dollars
1366
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:14,100
depend upon the votes of a few
1367
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,900
a very few people
in one section.
1368
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,800
We wouldn't build anything.
Nothing would be built.
1369
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:21,700
There'd be no highways,
there'd be no -- no housing.
1370
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,900
There, there'd be
no public improvements.
1371
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,200
Please do not build
this express highway.
1372
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:29,400
Most of these people
consider automobiles
1373
01:18:29,500 --> 01:18:31,200
more than the human being.
1374
01:18:31,300 --> 01:18:32,500
It is not right!
1375
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,000
I think it's awful.
1376
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:35,900
I don't think it's fair.
1377
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,100
I don't think it's very good
1378
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,000
'cause I live there,
I look out my window.
1379
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:42,800
The truck, the car
and everything.
1380
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:45,400
They don't need expressway.
1381
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:47,800
What they gonna do,
throw me in the street?
1382
01:18:47,900 --> 01:18:51,200
After 51 years,
I'm citizen and everything?
1383
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:53,700
There's something awful
to think every day
1384
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,400
they gonna throw you out.
1385
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:58,100
I think it's awful thing.
They make me sick.
1386
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,900
I hope God
they have to be damn sick.
1387
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,400
That's what I hope. Goodbye.
1388
01:19:03,500 --> 01:19:04,700
Thank you.
1389
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:10,100
It was gonna be
a defining hearing
1390
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:14,200
in which they would approve
the expressway.
1391
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:17,100
And Jane said,
when they discuss this issue
1392
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,700
I'm gonna get up
and I'm gonna speak against it.
1393
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,600
I went up, uh,
to the microphone.
1394
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:26,400
I was very angry.
They weren't listening to us.
1395
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:29,100
They had made their decision.
That was clear.
1396
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,300
They were really
only errand boys
1397
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,100
who had no power
to make decisions.
1398
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,000
So we had better let them
take back a message.
1399
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:41,200
We would never stand
for this expressway.
1400
01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:44,500
I intended just to climb up
to their level
1401
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,000
and walk across the stage.
1402
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,300
There was a stenotypist
1403
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,800
who had a new machine.
1404
01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:53,500
She was frightened
1405
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,700
and she picked up
her stenotype machine
1406
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,100
and clasped it to her bosom.
1407
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,100
The tapes fell out
of the machine
1408
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,300
and ran across the floor
like confetti.
1409
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,000
People began tossing it
in the air.
1410
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,300
I knew it had
to be brought to an end
1411
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,000
so an inspiration struck me.
1412
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:16,300
I said, "There is no hearing
1413
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,700
"because the record is gone.
1414
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,100
And without a record,
there can't be a hearing."
1415
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,300
The chief state person
was saying
1416
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,200
"Arrest that woman.
Arrest that woman."
1417
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:32,700
As I went out,
police captain told me that
1418
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,000
uh, I was arrested.
1419
01:20:37,500 --> 01:20:39,300
The police
were very apologetic.
1420
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,300
They knew who she was
and what was going on.
1421
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,400
She was charged
with 3 felonies
1422
01:20:47,500 --> 01:20:50,300
which is pretty rotten
for what she did.
1423
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,200
What did she do?
She didn't hurt anybody.
1424
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,500
She became the hero.
1425
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,000
And the politics did shift
at that point.
1426
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:03,600
The Board of Estimate
in an executive session today
1427
01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:06,400
voted unanimously
to turn down the proposal
1428
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:08,900
for a
Lower Manhattan Expressway.
1429
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,000
The board -- Please.
1430
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:13,100
[Applause]
1431
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,100
That was the decisive moment.
1432
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,400
And Moses
couldn't do anything.
1433
01:21:24,500 --> 01:21:26,000
He was just a pure villain.
1434
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:27,300
The politicians were villains.
1435
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:31,400
At that point, it was clear
that no politicians
1436
01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:33,200
were gonna get away with this.
1437
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:37,700
The Lower Manhattan Expressway
1438
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,100
was really the beginning
of the end for Robert Moses.
1439
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,500
Robert Moses
was finally squeezed out
1440
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,900
by Nelson Rockefeller,
who as Governor of New York
1441
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,300
might have been
the first public official
1442
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,500
powerful enough
to call his bluff.
1443
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,900
Moses was famous
for threatening to resign
1444
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,300
when he was unhappy
with something.
1445
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,700
Rockefeller said
at one point okay
1446
01:22:03,900 --> 01:22:05,700
and Moses had no choice.
1447
01:22:05,900 --> 01:22:09,200
He couldn't back down
and he was gone.
1448
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,500
After the Moses' expressway
situation was finally settled
1449
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,200
Jane felt she could go
to Canada with her typewriter
1450
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:20,100
and become a writer again.
1451
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,800
Her husband,
who was an architect
1452
01:22:21,900 --> 01:22:23,800
was building hospitals
up there.
1453
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:26,000
And their sons were there
be, to keep out of the
1454
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:28,400
that awful Vietnam War.
1455
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:30,400
Of course, as soon as
she got to Toronto
1456
01:22:30,500 --> 01:22:33,000
she, she saw there was
another expressway
1457
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:34,500
heading right for her house
1458
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,300
the Spadina Expressway.
1459
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:37,600
She stopped that too.
1460
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:41,300
And then got to work.
1461
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:42,900
The Lower Manhattan Expressway
1462
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,800
was officially dead
in the year 1970.
1463
01:22:46,900 --> 01:22:48,800
Meanwhile, across the country
1464
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:51,800
these kinds of freeway revolts
were taking place
1465
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:56,000
and similar roadways
were being defeated.
1466
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:57,700
But the Lower Manhattan
Expressway
1467
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,000
was really
the leading example.
1468
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,800
If that had happened,
there would be no SoHo.
1469
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:08,900
The entire history
of development
1470
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,200
and redevelopment
and adaptive reuse in the city
1471
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:13,700
would've played out
in a different way.
1472
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,900
It would've been
the single most
1473
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,800
damaging intervention
in the urban fabric
1474
01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:24,400
in Manhattan
in the 20th century, period.
1475
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:40,600
A city is not just
a physical object.
1476
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,200
The city is a living thing.
1477
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,200
It will always morph
and change.
1478
01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:55,700
Our goal has to be to manage
change well
1479
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,900
not to freeze it in time.
1480
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:04,400
As cities around the world
are obliged to house
1481
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:07,500
this dramatically
increasing population
1482
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,400
we still have
the conversation in terms of
1483
01:24:10,500 --> 01:24:12,900
top down versus bottom up
1484
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,400
formality versus informality.
1485
01:24:15,500 --> 01:24:17,500
These are
the eternal polarities
1486
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,400
of thinking about the city.
1487
01:24:25,700 --> 01:24:28,100
If you go to China,
you see huge swathes
1488
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,200
of farmland that
are now being urbanized
1489
01:24:31,300 --> 01:24:35,600
in exactly the model
that America used in 1950s
1490
01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:37,500
and we know that it failed.
1491
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:43,600
China today is Moses
on steroids, you know.
1492
01:24:43,700 --> 01:24:48,400
And the notion that Moses
could not have conceived
1493
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:53,000
of this extraordinary
scaling up
1494
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:54,900
of what it means to build.
1495
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,200
In that sense,
history has outdone him.
1496
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:05,000
These isolated developments
1497
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:07,400
with hundreds
of similar-looking blocks
1498
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,000
with no urbanism, no street
1499
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:13,600
who can live in them and how would you live in them?
1500
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:16,100
What they are building today,
I think..
1501
01:25:17,500 --> 01:25:19,300
...is the slums of the future.
1502
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:24,400
And they're made in concrete.
1503
01:25:24,500 --> 01:25:26,800
They're gonna last
at least 60 years.
1504
01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:29,600
We are condemning
future generations
1505
01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:32,000
to an absolute world
without hope.
1506
01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:39,500
Given the scale
of the problem we have
1507
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,500
that makes a completely
different context..
1508
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:47,200
...in which Jane Jacobs'
ideas again now
1509
01:25:47,300 --> 01:25:49,300
have a new incarnation.
1510
01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:57,600
"It is so easy to blame
the decay of cities
1511
01:25:57,700 --> 01:26:00,100
"on traffic or immigrants..
1512
01:26:02,300 --> 01:26:05,300
"...or the whimsies
of the middle class.
1513
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,000
"The decay of cities goes deeper and is more complicated.
1514
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:12,600
"It goes right down
to what we think we want
1515
01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:14,700
and to our ignorance
about how cities work."
1516
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,800
With the amount of people
who now need to live in cities
1517
01:26:20,900 --> 01:26:25,000
you have to accept that you're
going to need more density.
1518
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:27,800
But a lot of densely
built up terrain..
1519
01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:31,300
...is not a city.
1520
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,300
If, when we're to build a city
1521
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,100
no matter how fast it is
1522
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,300
without building
a great public realm
1523
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,000
you don't have a city.
1524
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:46,000
That's what
Jane Jacobs talks about.
1525
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:49,500
Historically,
solutions to city problems
1526
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,400
have very seldom come
from the top.
1527
01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:56,400
They come from people
1528
01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:59,800
who understand
the problems firsthand
1529
01:26:59,900 --> 01:27:01,100
'cause they're living
with them
1530
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,100
and who have new and ingenious
1531
01:27:04,300 --> 01:27:08,200
and often very offbeat ideas
of how to solve them.
1532
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,700
The creativity and the concern
1533
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,400
and the ideas down there
in city neighborhoods
1534
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:25,700
and city communities
has to be given a chance
1535
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:26,800
has to be released.
1536
01:27:26,900 --> 01:27:29,000
People have
to insist on government
1537
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:31,600
trying things their way.
1538
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,200
If you gave people
an environment
1539
01:27:36,300 --> 01:27:38,200
that they could
shape themselves
1540
01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:39,900
they would
not only be happier..
1541
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,500
...but you would
have a completely
1542
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,100
different kind of city.
1543
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:51,900
The problem for people
who are planning
1544
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,800
and designing and thinking about all this new urban tissue
1545
01:27:55,900 --> 01:27:59,200
that's being created
is how to take some of these
1546
01:27:59,300 --> 01:28:02,700
incredibly valuable lessons
that Jane Jacobs teaches
1547
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,200
um, and apply them
to the project of creating
1548
01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:07,900
the places where,
uh, all of these
1549
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,900
billions of people
are going to live.
1550
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,300
The key thing
about Jane Jacobs
1551
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,900
much more important than loving stoops and streets and stuff
1552
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,100
was a willingness
to be skeptical
1553
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,400
a willingness to doubt
the received wisdom..
1554
01:28:26,900 --> 01:28:29,500
...and to trust our eyes
instead.
1555
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:42,900
"Under the seeming disorder
of the old city
1556
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,400
"wherever the old city
is working successfully..
1557
01:28:47,700 --> 01:28:50,100
"...is a marvelous order
for maintaining the safety
1558
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,100
"of the street
1559
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,200
"and the freedom of the city.
1560
01:28:57,300 --> 01:28:59,100
"It is a complex order.
1561
01:29:01,900 --> 01:29:04,500
"This order is all composed
of movement and change.
1562
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:08,100
"And although it is life,
not art..
1563
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:12,500
"...we may fancifully call
it the art form of the city..
1564
01:29:14,700 --> 01:29:16,900
"...and liken it to the dance.
1565
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,600
"Not to a simpleminded
precision dance
1566
01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:23,500
"with everyone kicking up
at the same time
1567
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,200
"twirling in unison
and bowing off en masse..
1568
01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:31,500
"...but to an intricate ballet
1569
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,200
"in which the individual
dancers and ensembles
1570
01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:36,200
"all have distinctive parts..
1571
01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:40,700
"...which miraculously
reinforce each other..
1572
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,300
...and compose
an orderly whole."
1573
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,400
[Instrumental music]
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