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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,360 You know what that looks like? 2 00:00:07,620 --> 00:00:12,380 Comedy without black people would be like the NBA without black players. 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,520 Your biggest, biggest superstars in comedy have been black. 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Just genius and hilarious. 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,280 This Chappelle show redefines sketch comedy. 6 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:33,560 You live and call a set up a platform for black comedians blowing up. I don't 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,560 think so. 8 00:00:34,620 --> 00:00:35,720 Homie don't play that. 9 00:00:36,940 --> 00:00:40,660 Arsenio Hall was woo woo woo woo woo. It was groundbreaking. 10 00:00:43,380 --> 00:00:47,260 You had a black man willing to fight the power. It's nice being out of jail. 11 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:49,560 Laughter is healing. 12 00:00:49,950 --> 00:00:51,730 Laughter purifies the air. 13 00:00:51,930 --> 00:00:55,010 Actually, I don't like to talk about the races because I'm white. And we as 14 00:00:55,010 --> 00:00:56,610 black people have been doing it forever. 15 00:00:57,030 --> 00:00:58,030 I am. 16 00:00:58,570 --> 00:00:59,670 This is a freckle. 17 00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:03,230 All black comedians discuss race. 18 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:05,770 It's harder being gay than it is being black. 19 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:07,370 I didn't have to come out black. 20 00:01:08,970 --> 00:01:14,070 We have to address our pain to make you laugh and so that we can get through it. 21 00:01:14,290 --> 00:01:15,290 Mom, I'm black. 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,860 In the 1930s, segregation kept black audiences out of white theaters. 23 00:01:39,060 --> 00:01:42,900 In response to this, entertainers would perform on the Chitlin Circuit. 24 00:01:43,180 --> 00:01:47,980 The Chitlin Circuit were clubs and theaters that were meant to only serve a 25 00:01:47,980 --> 00:01:51,700 black audience. There was music, there was comedy, there were shows of variety. 26 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:56,120 But very few of these performers could break the color barrier to reach a 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,120 audience. 28 00:01:57,660 --> 00:02:02,480 Comedy and music have always been released from stress. 29 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,660 in black culture. 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,160 Chippin' Circuit comedy was the outgrowth of the chattel slavery 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,060 the pain that we had gone through. And what did we have left? 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,320 We could laugh, man. That's one thing you couldn't take. 33 00:02:15,660 --> 00:02:21,060 White audiences have been afraid of black comics, black comedy, because 34 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:24,340 comedians are truth tellers. And sometimes you don't want to hear the 35 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:28,620 So what it meant was, if you saw black characters on television, they were 36 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:31,260 always going to be subservient to allay white fears. 37 00:02:31,850 --> 00:02:34,090 and to protect kind of white comfort. 38 00:02:34,370 --> 00:02:39,330 Ethel Waters was really the first black to have her own variety show. It was 39 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:46,290 1939, and later was Hazel Scott in 1950, but they did not last long on 40 00:02:46,290 --> 00:02:46,948 the tube. 41 00:02:46,950 --> 00:02:51,690 So in 1956, we had the debut of the Nat King Cole show. You had a smooth, suave 42 00:02:51,690 --> 00:02:53,430 black man leading a variety show. 43 00:02:53,790 --> 00:02:55,410 Oh, boy, I'm lucky. 44 00:02:56,270 --> 00:02:57,790 I'll say I'm lucky. 45 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:00,510 This is my lucky day. 46 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:06,730 So he was singing and acting in sketches. The problem with the show is 47 00:03:06,730 --> 00:03:10,570 show this kind of black representation in southern cities. 48 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:14,890 Advertisers were afraid that if they sponsored Nat King Cole, that white 49 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:16,750 audiences would boycott their products. 50 00:03:17,170 --> 00:03:19,190 And if you can't get sponsorship, you can't exist. 51 00:03:19,470 --> 00:03:23,990 And when the show was canceled, what he said was Madison Avenue is afraid of the 52 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:25,510 dark. And they were. 53 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:35,180 In the late 50s, early 60s, the country starts to change more. When civil rights 54 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:39,240 hit, then you're getting grittier comedy that is going to deal with race. 55 00:03:39,820 --> 00:03:44,180 I hate to see any baseball player having trouble, but that's a great sport for 56 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:45,119 my people. 57 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,160 That is the only sport in the world where a Negro can shake a stick at a 58 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,460 man and won't start no riot. 59 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Dick Gregory put politics in his comedy. 60 00:03:55,020 --> 00:03:58,760 It was like seeing a curveball. And he'd throw it and you couldn't see it 61 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,680 coming. In 1961, appearing on the Jack Park show, Dick Gregory becomes the 62 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,540 black comedian ever to sit down on the couch after his performance. 63 00:04:07,860 --> 00:04:08,860 What kind of car you got? 64 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:10,020 A Lincoln, naturally. 65 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,320 Oh, well, that's it. 66 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:18,800 Dick Gregory, in the 50s and early 60s, was making $10 ,000 a week. And he 67 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,440 gave all that up to Martin Luther King. 68 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:25,590 Dick Gregory has been dubbed the father of black political comedy. 69 00:04:25,910 --> 00:04:29,810 And Mom Mabley was the mother of black female comedians. 70 00:04:30,190 --> 00:04:33,210 He said, where would you find another man like me? 71 00:04:33,550 --> 00:04:34,750 I'd say in the graveyard. 72 00:04:35,910 --> 00:04:41,110 She was one of the first black female comedians ever, the Harriet Tubman of 73 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:45,770 comedy. When she got off that stage, she would transform into her real truth, 74 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:48,810 which was wearing a zoot suit and having two women on her arm. 75 00:04:49,180 --> 00:04:51,180 We have to understand who Moms Mabley was. 76 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:54,280 She was a gay, black woman. 77 00:04:54,620 --> 00:04:58,960 Nobody knew that at the time because she couldn't be out. No one was out. 78 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Red Fox and Moms Mabley both toiled for decades on the Chitlin circuit. 79 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,420 Red was back then, the day when Nat King Cole, Lena Horne, Harry Belafonte could 80 00:05:10,420 --> 00:05:12,760 play in Vegas, but they couldn't stay in the hotel. 81 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:16,140 Dorothy Dandridge had to go through the servant's entrance. 82 00:05:16,730 --> 00:05:20,230 to go to her dressing room, she went out by the pool and just dipped her feet, 83 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:25,810 her little pretty feet, in the water. They drained the pool and repainted it. 84 00:05:25,810 --> 00:05:28,030 Red was from that era, from that chitlin' circuit. 85 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:33,210 Red Fox, he had comedy albums that were raunchy, and they thought he would never 86 00:05:33,210 --> 00:05:37,330 make it on TV. How could he clean up his act? And then he goes on television. 87 00:05:37,630 --> 00:05:43,110 My first wife had a 1942 Buick and her. 88 00:05:45,130 --> 00:05:47,150 And I left both of them to come to California. 89 00:05:50,190 --> 00:05:52,370 Didn't hurt too bad, because neither one of them was working. 90 00:05:54,690 --> 00:05:58,090 Now, did he clean up his act? In a way, he did, but you knew what he was 91 00:05:58,090 --> 00:05:59,090 thinking. 92 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:06,610 In 1971, the intensity was something that was really everywhere. 93 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:09,170 You know, we've had assassinations, recently riots. 94 00:06:09,710 --> 00:06:14,030 There's Nixon talking about law and order. But Soul Train suggested... that 95 00:06:14,030 --> 00:06:17,630 there's joy in black culture. We're going to turn the question over to the 96 00:06:17,630 --> 00:06:18,810 Train gang, Marvin, okay? 97 00:06:19,870 --> 00:06:22,850 What else do you like to do besides playing at your spare time? 98 00:06:23,250 --> 00:06:24,250 I enjoy it. 99 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:26,650 I like fooling around. 100 00:06:28,090 --> 00:06:33,230 One reason Soul Train succeeded 15 years after the Nat King Cole show is because 101 00:06:33,230 --> 00:06:35,290 they found a sponsor to take it national. 102 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:39,210 That was for us, by us, and we loved it. 103 00:06:39,490 --> 00:06:43,050 Let's welcome them warmly, Gladys and the Pips. 104 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:48,000 Mr. Barry White. Fly and the Family Stone. Curtis Mayfield. 105 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Aretha Brightland. 106 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:52,700 Don Cornelius was an icon. 107 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:58,180 This man changed the game. When I was growing up, you did not miss Soul Train. 108 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,680 I mean, that was the part of my youth. 109 00:07:01,020 --> 00:07:05,940 It was the regularly scheduled national platform for black culture. Someone does 110 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:10,160 popping on Soul Train in 1971, and people are trying popping in the 111 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,840 two hours later. It was a kind of universal black experience. 112 00:07:13,370 --> 00:07:17,430 Back in the 80s, which I'll never forget, I was a soul -trained dancer. 113 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:23,690 Oh, my God, that was such a huge deal. To go to the set was just mind -blowing. 114 00:07:24,050 --> 00:07:27,190 And then here walks out Don Cornelius with his afro. 115 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:30,900 I was just kind of like... Oh, my God. Pinch me. Is this real? 116 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:36,140 Soul Train was clearly geared towards a black audience. But at the same time, in 117 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:41,080 the 1970s, you had Flip Wilson, who was the first black comedian that could gear 118 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:46,180 a show for all of America and still stay very authentic to who he was. 119 00:07:46,420 --> 00:07:48,380 Flip Wilson was amazing. He was brilliant. 120 00:07:48,620 --> 00:07:52,100 Forty million people would watch that show, and I was one of them. And he was 121 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:55,180 also bringing in black artists, black entertainers. 122 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,960 He proves that black people can be on television. 123 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,680 They can have 40 million viewers. 124 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:09,840 They can be shown in the South. If we're given a chance, it can happen. Now, you 125 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,660 don't drink, you don't smoke, you don't fool around with wild women. When you go 126 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:15,280 into training, what do you give up? 127 00:08:17,020 --> 00:08:18,640 Chip Wilson was really huge. 128 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,580 Who didn't know Geraldine? 129 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Hey, Geraldine, is it true that blondes have more fun? 130 00:08:26,090 --> 00:08:27,450 Not in my neighborhood. 131 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:34,350 And Flip played the character so well that you thought Geraldine really 132 00:08:34,750 --> 00:08:38,250 When that character came out, baby, the audience just went up. So before there 133 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:43,370 was Nutty Professor, before there was Shanaynay, there was Geraldine, baby. 134 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:48,530 And one of Flip's writers was a young Richard Pryor. And when he found his 135 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:50,390 voice, he became the new king of comedy. 136 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:04,690 The first time on television, Richard Pryor. 137 00:09:05,250 --> 00:09:08,170 Hate to take the subway because the first thing you see when you walk down 138 00:09:08,170 --> 00:09:09,850 subway, some guy down there, give me a nickel. 139 00:09:12,370 --> 00:09:17,370 On television back in the 60s, you've got to come on stage clean. And Richard 140 00:09:17,370 --> 00:09:19,590 Pryor adapted for a while, but he wasn't happy. 141 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:24,360 And Richard at some point understands this is not who I am. This is not what I 142 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,320 care about. And I have to speak in a way that's authentic to me. So Richard left 143 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,620 Hollywood. People who live in Berkeley are put under curfew. They're tear gas. 144 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,440 In the late 60s, Richard Pryor went up to Oakland. 145 00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:43,080 At the time, it was just a black militant wild thing, man. And he met 146 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Panthers. But the main guy he met there was Paul Moody. 147 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Paul Mooney was his muse. 148 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:51,440 You can't get sight. You got to get hip to what you are. 149 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:56,980 And Paul Mooney told him, you come out, you do your thing, you be black, you go 150 00:09:56,980 --> 00:10:00,520 for it. Without Paul Mooney, there is no Richard Pryor. 151 00:10:00,820 --> 00:10:03,540 Comedy before that and comedy after that is never the same. 152 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:08,200 Richard's appearance in 1975 on Saturday Night Live kind of showed what black 153 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,200 comedy could be. 154 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,380 You got to get down and say things like, excuse me? 155 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,580 Would you move out of my way? 156 00:10:16,270 --> 00:10:17,810 And you walk back, just check this one. 157 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:25,410 What people don't know is that Richard Pryor insisted upon writing a lot of his 158 00:10:25,410 --> 00:10:28,830 own material for that show. So he didn't rely on the white writers to write his 159 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:32,290 skits. He said, I'm going to do it myself. I'm going to bring Paul Mooney 160 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:36,590 come in and help me write this. So they write these amazing sketches that are 161 00:10:36,590 --> 00:10:39,530 talking about what blackness is. 162 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:40,850 It's just a word association. 163 00:10:41,950 --> 00:10:44,770 Throw you out a few words, anything that comes to your mind, just throw it back 164 00:10:44,770 --> 00:10:48,370 at me, okay? And I say blackness because that's exactly what it was. It was 165 00:10:48,370 --> 00:10:49,370 about blackness. 166 00:10:49,470 --> 00:10:50,470 Colored. 167 00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:51,790 Redneck. 168 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:54,690 Jungle bunny. 169 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:55,750 Peck of wood. 170 00:10:59,030 --> 00:11:00,550 Spade. Hunker. 171 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:04,970 Nigger. Dead hunker. 172 00:11:07,810 --> 00:11:08,810 Richard's voice. 173 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:12,450 was so powerful, NBC gave him The Richard Pryor Show. 174 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:19,250 So The Richard Pryor Show was ahead of its time. They were doing sketches about 175 00:11:19,250 --> 00:11:20,250 Star Wars. 176 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:22,190 They were doing sketches about the black president. 177 00:11:22,450 --> 00:11:24,550 That sketch show was incredible. 178 00:11:25,290 --> 00:11:29,630 Mr. President, you've been courting an awful lot of white women. Will this 179 00:11:29,630 --> 00:11:30,630 continue? 180 00:11:37,710 --> 00:11:39,070 As long as I can keep it up. 181 00:11:41,730 --> 00:11:45,250 For the kids that are coming up now, look to the Dave Chappelle Show. 182 00:11:45,470 --> 00:11:50,430 And to me, Richard was the Chappelle Show before the Chappelle Show. He knew 183 00:11:50,430 --> 00:11:55,170 to take what was deemed taboo, what was deemed dangerous, and make it hilarious. 184 00:11:55,670 --> 00:12:01,030 Four years later, Pryor's influence was seen on Saturday Night Live in a 19 185 00:12:01,030 --> 00:12:03,290 -year -old black comic named Eddie Murphy. 186 00:12:03,630 --> 00:12:06,110 This is how you answer a door in my neighborhood. 187 00:12:08,939 --> 00:12:12,780 He was fresh and funny and fearless. 188 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:14,280 I want to be a hoe. 189 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,620 You could just feel the energy that this kid had and you knew he was going 190 00:12:20,620 --> 00:12:21,620 somewhere. 191 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:29,780 He showed a versatility that white people didn't think 192 00:12:29,780 --> 00:12:33,940 black people were paying attention to. And it made them go, oh. 193 00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:39,200 Oh, he knows about all these different white artists and actresses and actors, 194 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,180 whatever. He mimicked them, you know, and it made them accept him more, and it 195 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:45,200 made us go, wow. 196 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,660 How are you? 197 00:12:48,380 --> 00:12:51,700 That's good that we feel good. I feel great. 198 00:12:52,860 --> 00:12:57,880 Now, Eddie Murphy made it real easy for Leslie Jones, Chris Rock, and Kenan 199 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Thompson to have regular spots on there. 200 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,440 So he's this breakout star on SNL. 201 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:08,680 And then he was like, boom, I'm going to land this huge, influential HBO special 202 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:14,000 called Delirious. My favorite stand -up, bar none, is Delirious. He does the 203 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,760 impressions of James Brown. 204 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:16,919 Tell me about that! 205 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,799 Banter, yeah! 206 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,539 Do you! 207 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:19,740 Yeah! Tell me about that! 208 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:22,120 Yeah! Banter, what the fuck is James talking about? 209 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,340 Luther Vandross. 210 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,400 But more importantly, Elvis. 211 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:30,740 Elvis, want some lemonade? 212 00:13:31,470 --> 00:13:32,470 Lemonade. 213 00:13:33,690 --> 00:13:35,150 That's a refreshing drink. 214 00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:40,010 It showed you how talented he was because he could do it all. He opened 215 00:13:40,010 --> 00:13:42,090 for so many people. His boy, Arsenio Hall. 216 00:13:45,310 --> 00:13:51,270 So black entertainers were being showcased in variety shows and sketch 217 00:13:51,270 --> 00:13:54,770 things like that. But in late night TV, it was like the water fountains back in 218 00:13:54,770 --> 00:13:55,559 the 60s. 219 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:56,379 Whites only. 220 00:13:56,380 --> 00:13:59,280 So when we were watching David Letterman in college or Johnny Carson or Jay 221 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,680 Leno, here comes Arsenio Hall, a black man. 222 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:03,780 Who does Eddie go to for advice when he has problems? 223 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,080 Do you have somebody you can talk to when you have problems, even on a 224 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,080 level? 225 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:09,460 Just you. 226 00:14:11,780 --> 00:14:13,500 That was like a party every single night. 227 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,000 Arsenio created the destination for black entertainers to be themselves. 228 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:23,200 I was born with the name Sinbad. What's your last name? 229 00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:24,420 Bad. 230 00:14:25,340 --> 00:14:28,620 He kind of set the table as far as, like, hey, look, hip -hop culture, black 231 00:14:28,620 --> 00:14:30,520 culture, it can be represented on TV. 232 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,680 You can watch Arsenio Hall every night. Oh, yeah, 11 .30 after the news. Oh, 233 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,740 yeah, watch Arsenio. 234 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,960 It was a thing. 235 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,380 You've had late -night shows before that weren't on the same level as Arsenio. 236 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,060 He was going toe -to -toe with, like, Jay Leno, all the big shows. He had big 237 00:14:44,060 --> 00:14:47,320 guests. He was able to kind of conquer that late -night space. 238 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,140 And he was able to give us people like Prince and Michael Jackson as guests, 239 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:52,980 which led that to be a great show. 240 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:08,040 Minister Louis Farrakhan, the controversial leader of the Nation of 241 00:15:09,020 --> 00:15:10,860 He's been called enlightened and inspirational. 242 00:15:11,580 --> 00:15:14,600 He's also been called racist and anti -Semitic. 243 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,340 Many people are thrilled that I'm having him here tonight. 244 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Others are furious with me. 245 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:23,220 Arsenio's interview with Louis Farrakhan was groundbreaking and controversial. 246 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:29,780 And advertisers and networks were like, we can't have this guy on TV. 247 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,720 So he brings in Louis Farrakhan and he sits the minister down for an hour and 248 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,800 lets him talk. 249 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:41,560 Their fear is that nobody will oppose me. And as a result, truth will get out 250 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,040 and people might be made free. 251 00:15:44,580 --> 00:15:48,260 America may not have been ready for a sit down hour long conversation with 252 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:49,840 Farrakhan on late night television. 253 00:15:50,260 --> 00:15:53,780 And that's unfortunately the demise of the Arsenio Hall show. 254 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:57,800 Now, Arsenio, you got to remember, he's really well situated because he's part 255 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,800 of the black pack. 256 00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:04,440 The black pack was five gentlemen, Eddie Murphy, Arsenio Hall, Robert Townsend, 257 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:08,940 Keenan Ivory Wayans, and Paul Mooney. Certainly there were other famous black 258 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:13,160 comics, but they had never really corralled their forces like the Justice 259 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,340 or something. That level of talent and that connectivity with creators was not 260 00:16:18,340 --> 00:16:20,700 something that we'd seen before. 261 00:16:21,150 --> 00:16:24,710 So it turns into some specials. It turns into some movies. You know, it turns 262 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:28,450 into all sorts of wonderful offshoots. You know, the Black Pack were very 263 00:16:28,450 --> 00:16:32,290 significant because they had agency over their careers and ownership. 264 00:16:32,570 --> 00:16:36,230 Laying this foundation to what we see now. Laying the foundation for 265 00:16:36,530 --> 00:16:39,370 Laying the foundation for OWN. Laying the foundation for Tyler Perry. 266 00:16:39,570 --> 00:16:43,650 All this stuff kind of has its roots in the Black Pack and what they were able 267 00:16:43,650 --> 00:16:44,249 to do. 268 00:16:44,250 --> 00:16:46,990 So it was a really fertile crew. 269 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:51,580 Robert Townsend made his first movie on credit cards, and it was a great movie. 270 00:16:51,820 --> 00:16:55,000 I was auditioning for slaves and, you know, all the stereotypes. 271 00:16:55,260 --> 00:16:57,860 Then that's when I was saying to Kenan, we should make our own movies. 272 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Winky dinky doll. 273 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,660 Winky dinky doll. 274 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,319 Yeah. My dad and Kenan came up very closely together. 275 00:17:06,619 --> 00:17:09,780 Kenan and him would stand in line at the unemployment office to see what they 276 00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:13,920 could figure out. They were both young, broke, extremely talented, just trying 277 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,099 to get in the game, and they did it. 278 00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:23,490 In the case of In Living Color, I did pitch it to Robert Townsend, he didn't 279 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:27,990 want to do it, so we brought Kenan into Fox and we pitched a very bare -bones 280 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:31,330 idea, just a black sketch comedy show, and we gave him a pilot. 281 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:34,070 Welcome to the Homeboy Shopping Network! 282 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:38,410 Everything past the idea is Kenan's thing. 283 00:17:38,650 --> 00:17:41,050 Sometimes those little fellas don't like to come out! 284 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:44,430 Well, hell, can you blame them? I wish I could move back! 285 00:17:46,030 --> 00:17:48,530 It was an immediate hit, out of the box, huge. 286 00:17:48,770 --> 00:17:52,810 You know, the younger audience ate it up. They were able to sort of merge the 287 00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:56,410 suburban white crowd with the black crowd, and they all just started 288 00:17:56,410 --> 00:18:01,270 that show religiously. You had Kenan, Ivory Wayans, and he had his family. We 289 00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:02,270 had never seen that before. 290 00:18:02,430 --> 00:18:06,890 He had all the Wayanses. You had the Fly Girls, and they would come out, and it 291 00:18:06,890 --> 00:18:09,350 was so much hip -hop, and it was dancing. 292 00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:13,910 You had to be in front of the TV because you never know what sketch was going to 293 00:18:13,910 --> 00:18:15,690 come out. Now I'd like to talk about it. 294 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,580 a film I've been anxiously awaiting to see, Great Ball of Fire. 295 00:18:20,580 --> 00:18:26,060 In Living Color was so breakthrough, so innovative, so many great characters, 296 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:30,860 and the tone of the writing was from a perspective we had not seen before. 297 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,580 When his mama gave birth to him, he ran off with the princess. 298 00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:38,100 We were coming out of an era in television where it was all the white 299 00:18:38,340 --> 00:18:40,420 perception of what blacks were. 300 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:43,340 So Kenan got Paul Mooney as head writer. 301 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:45,090 It's a big, big difference. 302 00:18:47,130 --> 00:18:48,390 Who are you? 303 00:18:49,650 --> 00:18:52,770 I am the Minister Louis Farrakhan. 304 00:18:55,530 --> 00:18:59,550 So Jim Carrey had been kicking around comedy in Hollywood for years. 305 00:18:59,890 --> 00:19:01,950 Kenan said, I know how you use that guy. 306 00:19:02,490 --> 00:19:06,630 And he put him in, and next thing you know... Deadly combination! 307 00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:10,890 I discovered Jamie Foxx from In Living Color. 308 00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:18,390 You know, I was like, who is this guy that can do so much? 309 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:23,510 He was funny. He really could get into a character that you forget it was him. 310 00:19:26,210 --> 00:19:32,710 We were doing things that were really on the edge. There was some controversy. 311 00:19:32,990 --> 00:19:34,850 There was some pushback from Fox. 312 00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:40,350 If living with oppression is a sin, then I'll be guilty. 313 00:19:41,050 --> 00:19:42,470 Oppression for black men. 314 00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:44,930 If only he wasn't so dark. 315 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:52,350 Another show that really served up our comedy and our music, our culture, 316 00:19:52,450 --> 00:19:54,670 was Showtime at the Apollo. 317 00:19:55,050 --> 00:19:58,830 For a lot of artists to make a name for themselves, you had to come through the 318 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:00,210 Apollo and prove yourself. 319 00:20:00,730 --> 00:20:03,110 And don't know where backwards to yield would I be. 320 00:20:04,290 --> 00:20:08,690 The Apollo Theater is a very magical place. 321 00:20:09,150 --> 00:20:14,410 You can literally feel the energy of every performer that ever performed 322 00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:17,450 I was reading about Michael Jackson, and you know all about the nose. 323 00:20:17,710 --> 00:20:23,490 I don't get it, because they tell me you can't breathe late at night. I want my 324 00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:24,490 black nose back. 325 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:32,810 They always say if you can perform on that stage, you can perform anywhere in 326 00:20:32,810 --> 00:20:35,550 the world. But the whole family had their noses worked out. 327 00:20:36,050 --> 00:20:37,450 Do five, get one free. 328 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,100 The crowd at the Apollo was a hard crowd. You had to be good to be at the 329 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:43,100 Apollo. 330 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,660 I've seen a gospel choir get booed. How do you boo Jesus? I don't know. 331 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,260 The great Dave Chappelle got booed on Showtime at the Apollo. 332 00:20:56,620 --> 00:21:01,880 From Showtime at the Apollo, there became this interest in black 333 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:06,600 And BP created 106th and Park, targeting a younger audience. 334 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,060 for a long introduction. Give it up for T. 335 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:12,280 Please make some noise for Rihanna. 336 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:18,020 106 and Park had a real monumental statement on the hip -hop culture. It 337 00:21:18,020 --> 00:21:20,280 boy. What's your favorite collaboration you've ever done? 338 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:23,380 It's All I Need with Method Man. It was like for the next generation. 339 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,440 Little Bow Wow for these younger acts. We got Lil Wayne in the house right now, 340 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,580 though. Yes, sir. 341 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:33,220 106 and Park compared to something like TRL is putting on younger, edgier 342 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:37,720 guests, but at the time there was nothing that was more edgy than Def 343 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,200 Jam. Peg was a game what we played at the mall. 344 00:21:40,910 --> 00:21:44,510 You know, when you go to the mall, you see some shit you like, you notice that 345 00:21:44,510 --> 00:21:46,050 the price is way too fucking high. 346 00:21:47,010 --> 00:21:50,070 You find a tag appropriate to your financial need. 347 00:21:59,950 --> 00:22:06,310 In the 1980s and 90s, black comedians have an extra burden. Their comedy is 348 00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:11,740 judged through a different lens of authenticity versus... Oh, I'm just 349 00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:13,780 placate mainstream audiences. 350 00:22:14,060 --> 00:22:19,100 Folks on Madison Avenue, the advertisers, believe that black comedy 351 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:23,720 and people don't want to hear it. Then the whole phenomenon that Townsend, 352 00:22:23,740 --> 00:22:29,580 Kenan, Murphy, and Arsenio had helped push what I was able to do with Def 353 00:22:29,580 --> 00:22:33,660 Jam. This is where we as black comedians come together and unite as one. 354 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:38,870 The fact that he was on HBO, they didn't have to worry about sponsors. Is Ajax 355 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:42,410 going to pull back because he said the N -word? And, oh, my God, Palmolive 356 00:22:42,410 --> 00:22:43,890 doesn't like when we say shit. 357 00:22:44,210 --> 00:22:46,350 Don't say shit. Like, he doesn't deal with all that. 358 00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:49,830 Martin Lawrence was the best host. 359 00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:51,009 You come in. 360 00:22:51,010 --> 00:22:55,510 Yes. Martin was good at being spontaneous. He could come off the cuff. 361 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:59,310 you look at some of those old Def Jam performances, a lot of what he did was 362 00:22:59,310 --> 00:23:02,850 improvised. I don't know that he ever went out there with a playbook. I know 363 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:04,290 Bird out of business, but what the fuck? 364 00:23:06,810 --> 00:23:10,030 Def Comedy Jam was a black comic paradise. 365 00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:15,330 After decades of being told how to behave, what's appropriate, what's okay 366 00:23:15,330 --> 00:23:17,430 what's not okay, black comedians had it up. 367 00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:22,050 You will no longer censor me. We put on the acts that we wanted to see. 368 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:26,810 Edgy. I'm so broke, if a nigga rob me, he'll just be practicing. 369 00:23:28,170 --> 00:23:30,010 Def Jam comes along, boom. 370 00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:36,290 Now everybody knows Bill Bellamy, Adele Givens, Bernie Mac, Steve Harvey, Eddie 371 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,890 Griffin. So I'm grateful for it. How could you not be? 372 00:23:39,250 --> 00:23:41,270 Just let this pussy taste like pumpkin pie. 373 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:48,700 You know, 374 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,160 the women of Def Comedy Jam hold a special place in my heart because they 375 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:01,720 like the women of gangster rap. They had to really make room in such a toxically 376 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,080 masculine space. 377 00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:05,800 That is not an easy thing to do. 378 00:24:14,190 --> 00:24:18,310 You should have been fucking with a country hoe such as myself from 379 00:24:18,610 --> 00:24:22,110 You would have got your dick sucked and biscuits from scratch up in that moment. 380 00:24:24,370 --> 00:24:28,550 At about the same time as Def Comedy Jam, SNL was looking for another great 381 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:33,090 black sketch artist because Eddie Murphy left and Chris Rock was super young and 382 00:24:33,090 --> 00:24:38,390 he wasn't quite ready at the time. He eventually left and became much bigger 383 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:39,390 after SNL. 384 00:24:56,010 --> 00:25:01,070 So after Chris Rock does Bring the Pain, it was an explosive moment for him and 385 00:25:01,070 --> 00:25:02,070 there was no going back. 386 00:25:02,170 --> 00:25:06,390 Chris started dealing with social commentary and dealt with real issues 387 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:08,750 was going on today and dealt with them honestly. 388 00:25:15,660 --> 00:25:20,480 Because if a bullet costs $5 ,000, there'll be no more innocent bystanders. 389 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:25,480 If you can take that stuff and make that funny, that separates the men from the 390 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,400 boys. Every time somebody gets shot, they'll be like, damn, he must have did 391 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,400 something. 392 00:25:30,980 --> 00:25:33,820 So they put $50 ,000 worth of bullets in his ass. 393 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,060 So at the time, Network wanted to find another late night talk show that could 394 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:43,040 be just as good as Arsenio to sort of fill that void. 395 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:45,140 You know, they wanted Chris to do Network. 396 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,700 Chris wouldn't do it. He knew he couldn't do it five days a week and keep 397 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:55,280 high level of quality that he wanted to do. And here we go, HBO, to the rescue. 398 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,200 Chris Rock was able to, like, wall out on HBO. He had that one sketch where 399 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,059 just slapping people. 400 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:04,160 Like, that doesn't sound that controversial, but other networks would 401 00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:07,300 whoa, we're not showing this, we're not showing this. As you see here, Davis 402 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:10,820 enters the building, and within seconds, the rampage begins. 403 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,400 He's edgy. He's always going to make you think. He's always going to challenge 404 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,580 the status quo. 405 00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:24,840 As late night TV was back on the map, the Kings of Comedy tour was blowing up. 406 00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:28,240 White people hope things don't go wrong. 407 00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:31,260 Black people don't hope. We wish. 408 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:35,200 We wish a motherfucker would be an actor. 409 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:41,760 They do this arena tour that sells out all across the United States. And then 410 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,300 they get Spike Lee to film the show. 411 00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:46,730 it makes like another $100 million. 412 00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:49,010 So it's this runaway success. 413 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:51,270 I've had three black people over my house. 414 00:26:52,270 --> 00:26:56,150 If you know how many niggas been over your house, you racist like a 415 00:26:56,150 --> 00:26:57,150 motherfucker. 416 00:26:57,190 --> 00:27:02,010 I think the Kings of Comedy tour was a game changer because you were seeing 417 00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:06,370 something that you'd never seen before. Harvey, Cedric, Bernie, and DL. You're 418 00:27:06,370 --> 00:27:07,790 talking about four heavyweights. 419 00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:10,570 I said, where you going? He said, to get some American cookies. 420 00:27:12,659 --> 00:27:15,420 He said it so funny, I wanted to hear it again. I said, it's a lot. 421 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,860 He said something, I can't come. 422 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,780 So at the same time, this happens in 2000, over on HBO, Dave Chappelle does 423 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:25,180 Killing Them Softly. 424 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,300 Oscar, you are so mean. 425 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Isn't it, kid? He talks about race, you know, poverty, stuff like that. 426 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,640 It's like, bitch, I live in a fucking trash can. 427 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:38,140 I'm the poorest motherfucker on Sesame Street. 428 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,560 You would catch yourself. 429 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:44,940 gut -busting laughing, but then being like, damn, that's true. You know what I 430 00:27:44,940 --> 00:27:46,920 mean? I didn't know he was taking me to the ghetto at first. 431 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:49,740 I started looking out the window. I was like, what the fuck? Gun store, gun 432 00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:51,740 store, liquor store, gun store. Where the fuck he taking me? 433 00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:55,380 Three years after that, Dave Chappelle teamed up with Comedy Central. 434 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,480 Bam. Dave Chappelle show. 435 00:27:58,060 --> 00:28:01,660 Yes, they deserve to die, and I hope they burn in hell. 436 00:28:03,340 --> 00:28:08,280 The Chappelle Show redefined sketch comedy. It brought in living color back 437 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,380 the fore, but it even took it further. 438 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,040 I always wanted to say this. 439 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:14,360 We're shizzle. 440 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:22,260 It passed boundaries that you thought were, woo, we can't touch. A blind, 441 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:24,840 black, KKK member. 442 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,260 So Powell was an amazing show. 443 00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:38,140 He was like so on it with the commentary, but still hard, funny, which 444 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:39,720 to do, man, to tell that line. 445 00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:43,940 What black man don't have some bloody gloves on his property? Man, that one 446 00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:45,960 right here. That don't mean I did anything. 447 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,840 He's willing to tell it like it is, and sometimes what it is is not comfortable. 448 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,460 But his ability to make us laugh at those uncomfortable things, that was a 449 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:02,740 I feel like Dave Chappelle can't exist because there was a Richard 450 00:29:02,740 --> 00:29:04,180 Pryor. That is the mold. 451 00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:12,140 You have to understand that at the height of his power, he felt 452 00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:16,200 that the original concept of the show was not where the show was going. 453 00:29:16,510 --> 00:29:20,190 The Comedy Central star stunned his fans when he suddenly just walked away from 454 00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:23,550 a hit TV show and a $50 million contract. 455 00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:27,050 Everybody was like, what the hell is going on? We were all perplexed and 456 00:29:27,050 --> 00:29:32,270 confused. I was doing sketches that were funny, but socially irresponsible. 457 00:29:32,970 --> 00:29:35,950 It's like you're getting flooded with things and you don't pay attention to 458 00:29:35,950 --> 00:29:37,070 things like your ethics. 459 00:29:37,450 --> 00:29:41,550 I mean, I don't want black people to be disappointed in me for putting that out 460 00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:42,550 there. 461 00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:46,930 What Dave was saying was that... It has to be my way. 462 00:29:59,910 --> 00:30:06,410 In the 80s and 90s, in comedy, especially black comedy, it's just hard 463 00:30:06,410 --> 00:30:08,210 to break through. Where are the sisters? 464 00:30:08,670 --> 00:30:13,590 Because sisters have a very distinct voice that you hadn't seen since Moms 465 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:17,680 Mabley. You know, people always ask me, what black women comedians inspired you 466 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,680 to be a comedian? 467 00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:22,620 And I'm like, none, because I didn't get to see any. 468 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,320 But black women have been funny this whole time. And so often, we are simply 469 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,420 just not considered star worthy. 470 00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:34,970 Different female comics, they had to do different things in order to get 471 00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:40,530 exposure. Like with Whoopi Goldberg, she wrote her own one -woman act, and she 472 00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:41,550 put it out herself. 473 00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:46,010 Nobody would have given Whoopi her set if she hadn't did it herself. 474 00:30:46,350 --> 00:30:48,750 And she ended up getting it on HBO. 475 00:30:49,210 --> 00:30:50,430 She come up to me and talk about it. 476 00:30:52,570 --> 00:30:53,630 That's in her seatbelt. 477 00:30:56,190 --> 00:30:57,510 I said, fuck you. 478 00:30:58,910 --> 00:31:03,170 She was funny and she was real. And I really related to her characters. The 479 00:31:03,170 --> 00:31:07,070 little girl who put the shirt on her head so she could have long hair, that 480 00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:11,690 me. Nancy said, even if you sit in the vat of Clorox till hell feeds over, you 481 00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:12,930 ain't going to be nothing but black. 482 00:31:13,730 --> 00:31:16,970 And she was right because I sat in the Clorox and I got burned. 483 00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:21,790 Although it was really successful, she was the only black female that had a 484 00:31:21,790 --> 00:31:23,250 special for a really long time to come. 485 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:29,000 2001 was a very important time in black stand -up because you cannot ignore the 486 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,180 sisters in comedy. 487 00:31:30,380 --> 00:31:35,340 The queens of comedy was Monique, Samore, Miss Laura, and Adele Given. 488 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,860 And these were ladies who, on their own, were powerhouses. 489 00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:40,240 Fuck these skinny bitches. 490 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,440 Look at her shaking. Bitch, cause you hungry. 491 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:47,020 But to put all that power together, it exploded. 492 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,480 Oh, no, no. 493 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,480 I think it was just like girl power unleashed. They got together and they 494 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,820 us women can do it too. 495 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,280 God bless you, people. 496 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,200 People don't know that I wasn't one of the original queens of comedy. They had 497 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,280 taken it out a couple times, and then I got the call. 498 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:11,400 We were and still are the highest -grossing female comedy tour in history. 499 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,060 Now, you can't talk about black female comedians and not talk about Wanda 500 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,280 Being gay is not a choice. 501 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,800 It's not a choice. 502 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:25,950 Wanda gets on stage completely unapologetic. I am a black woman who is 503 00:32:25,950 --> 00:32:29,150 lesbian. If you believe that it's a choice, then you're saying that straight 504 00:32:29,150 --> 00:32:32,230 people are straight because they chose not to be gay. 505 00:32:33,530 --> 00:32:34,530 Right? 506 00:32:34,890 --> 00:32:38,370 And I'm sure a lot of straight guys in here, you know what I'm talking about. 507 00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:43,410 I'm sure there's on several occasions, you know, you probably think, you know, 508 00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:44,870 think I'm going to suck a dick today. 509 00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:49,330 She's like, this is me. Accept it. And we have. 510 00:32:49,820 --> 00:32:54,820 And we love it. So to go from a point where Moms Mabley has to hide who she is 511 00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:59,940 to Wanda Sykes being able to be celebrated for who she is, progression 512 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:02,700 possible in this country sometimes. 513 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:10,780 When Barack Obama was elected president, there was such this exhale, and you 514 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:13,460 felt that the world had shifted. It changed. 515 00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:16,820 And not only has America changed, but we have changed as a culture. 516 00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:19,490 We expect their representation. 517 00:33:20,110 --> 00:33:25,070 When Chappelle decided not to renew his contract and return with the Chappelle 518 00:33:25,070 --> 00:33:28,830 show, Comedy Central knew they needed to do something to capture that magic 519 00:33:28,830 --> 00:33:33,870 again. And they looked to MADtv alum Keegan -Michael Key and Jordan Peele and 520 00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:35,310 decided to give them their own show. 521 00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:37,310 Where'd the picture go? We deleted it. Gross. 522 00:33:37,570 --> 00:33:40,550 What? I had childbirth days. Yeah, it looks like my grandmother having an 523 00:33:40,550 --> 00:33:42,290 orgasm. Delete it. 524 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,560 Key and Peele was so brilliant to me because the range of characters was out 525 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,840 this world. Man, how you want me to smoke somebody when I got poop in my 526 00:33:54,260 --> 00:33:57,920 From the wigs to the voices to the risks that they were willing to take, it's 527 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,920 unbelievable work. 528 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,840 One of the most iconic sketches on Key and Peele involved Barack Obama and his 529 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,120 alter ego, Luther. 530 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,440 A lot of folks say that I haven't done a good job at communicating my 531 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,540 accomplishments to the public. 532 00:34:13,130 --> 00:34:18,550 And it was so popular that Obama himself invited Luther to come up on stage with 533 00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:20,510 him during a White House correspondent dinner. 534 00:34:20,730 --> 00:34:21,730 So funny. 535 00:34:21,989 --> 00:34:27,130 We won't always see eye to eye. Oh, and CNN, thank you so much for the wall -to 536 00:34:27,130 --> 00:34:28,510 -wall Ebola coverage. 537 00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:32,630 For two whole weeks, we were one step away from the walking dead. 538 00:34:34,270 --> 00:34:38,150 TMPO proved that an all -black sketch show could be... 539 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,560 something that was bankable. And the best thing about it is that it paved the 540 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,100 way for the next one. 541 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,280 Kevin was a good boyfriend, okay? 542 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,920 Now, he stole my car one time, but he brought that shit back. 543 00:34:51,420 --> 00:34:56,139 With a girl in it. The creator of a black lady sketch show, Robin Thede, 544 00:34:56,139 --> 00:34:59,440 that show with so many talented black women. So it was huge. 545 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,940 It's so awesome to see black women really step into so many different 546 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:13,060 characters. The beauty of sketch is everyone is different. So you get the 547 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:16,120 villains, the goofballs, you get straight -laced characters. 548 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:20,140 Sources are telling me that you've been considering switching to another team. 549 00:35:20,830 --> 00:35:23,830 Are you thinking about a crossover to women? Look, I've taken a lot of 550 00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:26,410 in my career, and I'm always hoping it's strapping out a new uniform. 551 00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:31,370 And we get to see this awesome ensemble of Black women play all of these 552 00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:32,370 different characters. 553 00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:36,350 Sometimes I just want to sit down for five minutes without wearing a waist 554 00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:38,210 up. Oh, this whole trying to take deep breaths? 555 00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:40,840 Yeah! Read when you die, honey, okay? 556 00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:46,980 This show shows women writing their hand in history, even giving plain men a 557 00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:50,660 chance. This nigga wear camo like me? This nigga got a beard like me? Oh, he 558 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:52,000 does? All right, I'm gonna sit down. 559 00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:58,900 I love what she has created, an experience that is just us, by us, for 560 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:01,420 else to enjoy all of our magic. 561 00:36:01,780 --> 00:36:05,840 I think it is important for us to have our own authentic voices. 562 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,960 the Shonda Rhimes, the Robin Thedes, Kevin Hart, who's now taking his 563 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,080 productions into the stratosphere. 564 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,600 I know I'm not a fighter. That's why I carry a whistle. 565 00:36:15,820 --> 00:36:17,860 I'll blow the shit out of a whistle in somebody's face. 566 00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:21,000 Talk to me if you want to. You're going to win the fight, but you ain't going to 567 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,100 hear shit tomorrow, bitch. 568 00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:36,400 Like she'll pass out for three seconds and wait and then peek to see if anybody 569 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,180 looking. Take me, Jesus. 570 00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:44,740 When you watch Kevin's specials, you know what you're going to get. You know, 571 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,060 you're going to get stuff talking about his life. 572 00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:47,780 Kevin is vulnerable. 573 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,320 He's authentic. 574 00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:51,420 I just don't feel like I need to whoop my kids ass. 575 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,920 My voice is enough. 576 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:55,540 Shut the fuck up. It's enough. 577 00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:00,560 I love it that Kevin Hart can sell out a football stadium. 578 00:37:01,070 --> 00:37:03,270 You know, I love it that he's the king of the box office. 579 00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:08,330 Comedy movies, his production company, he's got a serious satellite, you know, 580 00:37:08,330 --> 00:37:12,210 network. You have a mogul showing that you can own your own space. 581 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:15,490 Hi, I'm Kevin Hart. Unless you hate laughter, click and subscribe. 582 00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:20,310 He's able to do what he wants to do as a comedian and as a mogul to create an 583 00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:24,550 empire. There's another mogul who was willing to stand up for his own 584 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:25,709 Nick Cannon. 585 00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:28,370 We started this show together, and now... 586 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,980 He's kind of successful. 587 00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:34,960 You're going to get your ass beat by a star today. 588 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:39,400 Nick Cannon has literally created a world out of his personality. 589 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:40,618 He's quick. 590 00:37:40,620 --> 00:37:43,180 It was like, how spontaneous can you be? 591 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,860 Three words after getting shot. 592 00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:46,980 I'm still pregnant. 593 00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:52,800 We've seen variety shows, but we've never seen them like this. 594 00:37:53,290 --> 00:37:56,430 He really brought the hip -hop culture to variety. 595 00:37:56,810 --> 00:38:01,930 Anything you always wanted to say but never had the gut to say it, this is the 596 00:38:01,930 --> 00:38:02,649 show for that. 597 00:38:02,650 --> 00:38:03,589 Hey, yo, E! 598 00:38:03,590 --> 00:38:08,290 How you know the muffin, man? He stole everything I had. That's my cousin, man. 599 00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:09,529 Hey, yo, Tim! 600 00:38:09,530 --> 00:38:14,170 How you know the muffin, man? He hit my chick, put a muffin in her oven, man. 601 00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:17,170 While and now is the springboard. 602 00:38:17,790 --> 00:38:18,830 to the higher level of success. 603 00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:23,110 Because there have been people that have used that platform and that it's been 604 00:38:23,110 --> 00:38:24,110 monumental for. 605 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:27,410 Shout out to Nick Cannon, who helped us very early on in our career. 606 00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:31,050 The way he treated us and took us under his wing, that will always, like, stand 607 00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:31,808 out to me. 608 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:37,050 Jesus and Mero are two of the most hilarious brothers out there. 609 00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:40,270 You know you're in a McDonald's when the drive -thru says, yo, no walking? Like, 610 00:38:40,350 --> 00:38:41,350 you cannot walk through here? 611 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:43,910 Just be knocking on the glass like, hello? 612 00:38:47,210 --> 00:38:48,470 I'm in the car. Don't worry about it. 613 00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:50,290 Look, 10 and 2. 10 and 2. Look. 614 00:38:50,730 --> 00:38:52,430 And they're like, sir. I'm like, hold up. 615 00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:59,370 How can I help you? Late night TV has certainly expanded its table of black 616 00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:04,070 voices and people who can not only entertain but offer black perspectives, 617 00:39:04,070 --> 00:39:06,370 have long been missing from late night television. 618 00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:09,550 As far as like pressure and feeling like, oh, I have to represent this, I 619 00:39:09,550 --> 00:39:13,310 to represent that. It's like we are who we are and we are that. The show we make 620 00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:15,370 is a reflection of black culture in America. 621 00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:20,510 Part of their success was going viral to keep the audience engaged. 622 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:25,090 With cable and streaming, there have been so many more opportunities and 623 00:39:25,090 --> 00:39:29,270 platforms for black comedians. The more I think about the future, I think about 624 00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:32,390 the black comics that really sort of moved me. I think about people like 625 00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:34,230 Ruffin. I think about Sam Jay. 626 00:39:34,570 --> 00:39:36,050 I think about Nicole Byer. 627 00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:40,490 Streaming allows for new faces and new players to get into the game to find 628 00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:45,750 success. With the explosion of streaming, black comedians started 629 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:48,270 record -breaking deals on streaming networks. 630 00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:49,530 The list goes on and on. 631 00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:54,890 So to see them be established and getting big checks for doing big series, 632 00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:56,770 shows that there has been some growth in the industry. 633 00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:59,730 You're looking at half of Netflix's budget right here on stage. 634 00:40:01,350 --> 00:40:02,350 Thanks, Netflix. 635 00:40:02,590 --> 00:40:04,010 Thanks, Netflix. Not me. 636 00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:06,990 Not me. I made all my millions on the road. 637 00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:08,408 You mean touring? 638 00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:09,890 No, I got hit by a truck. 639 00:40:11,310 --> 00:40:16,230 As much as we love to talk about the successes of Dave's $60 million for 640 00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:19,330 Christmas, $50 million, that's amazing, Redd Foxx died broke. 641 00:40:20,030 --> 00:40:22,790 And he had one of the biggest shows on television. 642 00:40:23,130 --> 00:40:24,130 Look at the ratings. 643 00:40:24,170 --> 00:40:25,810 50 million people. 644 00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:29,130 It's absurd that he would die broke. 645 00:40:29,390 --> 00:40:30,510 He died with nothing. 646 00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:32,690 You know, Eddie Murphy paid the funeral cost. 647 00:40:32,970 --> 00:40:36,130 I think it's important that we don't forget about the great people that came 648 00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:37,049 before us. 649 00:40:37,050 --> 00:40:40,330 When signing these huge deals, because there were a lot of people who gave 650 00:40:40,330 --> 00:40:44,510 all to the craft and died with nothing financially to show for it. Looking back 651 00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:48,090 on everything that you've done, if you could change anything, what would it be? 652 00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:49,650 Writing my underwear. 653 00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:54,430 It's a great time to be a black comedian right now. 654 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:59,310 Because when you think about our past and where we've come from, 655 00:41:00,350 --> 00:41:04,850 the Moms Maybelline, Dick Gregory, Red Fox. 656 00:41:05,690 --> 00:41:09,870 They weren't getting the opportunities as Black artists are getting today. 657 00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:12,310 Give me a hand, Rick. Feel my heart. 658 00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:14,930 Ah, that's quite a beat there. 659 00:41:16,110 --> 00:41:18,050 But that has never stopped us. 660 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,820 from existing and thriving and telling our stories. 661 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,220 The best thing that we can do is use our platform to uplift other younger Black 662 00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:29,500 artists and give them their time to shine. 663 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,340 I used to carry extra panties in my purse in case I got lucky. Now I carry 664 00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:35,340 in case I sneeze. 665 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:42,980 Black TV is Black life, and it is intrinsically a part of not just our pop 666 00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:45,420 culture, but of our actual story. 667 00:41:45,780 --> 00:41:48,000 I want to ask so big that if I want to talk, 668 00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:56,150 Yeah, it's a TV show, but little black kids are watching, and that's important. 669 00:41:56,610 --> 00:41:57,850 Here's the original Chris. 670 00:41:58,430 --> 00:42:01,330 He drowned in a bath of activated. 671 00:42:01,610 --> 00:42:06,370 We have a voice. It was hard work, but I think the future of black television is 672 00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:07,370 bright. 59000

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