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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,767 --> 00:00:35,603 I love going to the aquarium because it's peace. 2 00:00:35,876 --> 00:00:36,986 It is silent. 3 00:00:37,481 --> 00:00:39,190 The only thing you hear other than the people 4 00:00:39,191 --> 00:00:41,790 around you, maybe a bubble. 5 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:46,114 There's one part with a kelp forest, 6 00:00:46,115 --> 00:00:49,284 and they sway back and forth and up and down, 7 00:00:49,285 --> 00:00:51,494 and it's just... you get lost in it. 8 00:00:53,425 --> 00:00:55,486 And in that moment, there are no alerts. 9 00:00:56,126 --> 00:00:58,673 There are no beeps and bloops and dings. 10 00:01:00,236 --> 00:01:03,257 It's always different and moving and random. 11 00:01:07,646 --> 00:01:09,517 And it's not like staring at a screen. 12 00:01:14,697 --> 00:01:17,729 A life mediated by screens, 13 00:01:18,579 --> 00:01:20,398 filtered through the Web, 14 00:01:20,399 --> 00:01:22,087 dominated by technology. 15 00:01:23,314 --> 00:01:24,517 Sound familiar? 16 00:01:26,238 --> 00:01:29,449 Today, our devices are not just hardware. 17 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:33,095 They are projections and extensions of our mind. 18 00:01:35,122 --> 00:01:38,533 Every day, we upload billions of bits of ourselves 19 00:01:38,566 --> 00:01:41,852 to a network that records and even predicts 20 00:01:41,877 --> 00:01:47,126 our most basic wants, desires, and fears. 21 00:01:49,298 --> 00:01:51,845 Do we still know where the mind ends 22 00:01:51,934 --> 00:01:54,337 and the machine begins? 23 00:01:56,579 --> 00:01:58,579 synced and corrected by susinz *www.addic7ed.com* 24 00:02:12,411 --> 00:02:13,958 My total time in the military 25 00:02:13,983 --> 00:02:15,583 in Iraq was three years, 26 00:02:15,950 --> 00:02:18,239 and then close to four years in Afghanistan. 27 00:02:20,817 --> 00:02:23,292 When you're on edge and your shoulders are tight 28 00:02:23,317 --> 00:02:25,301 and you're tense for, you know, 60, 90 days 29 00:02:25,326 --> 00:02:26,911 and you're stressed out, 30 00:02:27,341 --> 00:02:29,634 literally life or death depends on your actions, 31 00:02:29,635 --> 00:02:32,262 your alertness, you can only stay awake so long, 32 00:02:32,263 --> 00:02:33,680 and you're burning out parts of your body 33 00:02:33,681 --> 00:02:36,012 that are not meant to be on fire constantly. 34 00:02:36,308 --> 00:02:38,059 You can't be in that fight mode constantly 35 00:02:38,060 --> 00:02:40,019 without having a huge down side of it, 36 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:41,629 of being just worn out. 37 00:03:10,801 --> 00:03:13,551 When he came home, he was moody. 38 00:03:14,271 --> 00:03:15,872 He was irrational. 39 00:03:17,245 --> 00:03:18,911 He was horrible to be around. 40 00:03:20,936 --> 00:03:22,122 So angry. 41 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:26,669 He couldn't even drive a car without screaming at someone 42 00:03:26,694 --> 00:03:28,047 with my kids there. 43 00:03:32,448 --> 00:03:34,762 He's always planning an escape route. 44 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,106 It's a summer day and we're burning up sweating, 45 00:03:40,544 --> 00:03:43,254 and you can't have the front door open 46 00:03:43,459 --> 00:03:45,877 because there could be a sniper out front 47 00:03:45,878 --> 00:03:47,692 waiting to take us all out. 48 00:03:48,327 --> 00:03:50,411 Who thinks like that? 49 00:03:50,514 --> 00:03:52,567 A normal person doesn't think like that. 50 00:03:53,969 --> 00:03:56,122 It was a horrible transition for me. 51 00:03:57,389 --> 00:03:59,515 Just sitting there, looking at the mundane, 52 00:03:59,516 --> 00:04:02,059 you know, cartoons, kids, diapers, 53 00:04:02,895 --> 00:04:04,604 I was checked out. I was a zombie. 54 00:04:04,605 --> 00:04:06,208 Like, "What am I doing here?" 55 00:04:07,073 --> 00:04:08,917 I begged him, like, 56 00:04:08,942 --> 00:04:10,485 "Let's just go to couples counseling. 57 00:04:10,486 --> 00:04:12,075 Let's see if they can help us." 58 00:04:13,715 --> 00:04:15,886 I could not do the talk therapy. 59 00:04:15,911 --> 00:04:18,198 I just could not sit down and have, 60 00:04:18,223 --> 00:04:20,453 "This is my deepest, darkest reason why I'm angry," 61 00:04:20,454 --> 00:04:23,122 or, "This is the day that so-and-so got hurt," 62 00:04:23,123 --> 00:04:26,020 or, "This is when I did this to another human being." 63 00:04:27,169 --> 00:04:28,753 For Chris Merkel, 64 00:04:28,754 --> 00:04:30,661 talking about the war didn't help. 65 00:04:31,129 --> 00:04:33,800 There were no words to describe the horrors 66 00:04:33,801 --> 00:04:36,544 he'd seen, much less process them. 67 00:04:37,471 --> 00:04:39,151 Desperate to heal his mind 68 00:04:39,176 --> 00:04:41,724 of the psychological shrapnel of war, 69 00:04:41,725 --> 00:04:45,590 he is going to relive its hell virtually. 70 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:54,487 I think virtual reality 71 00:04:54,488 --> 00:04:58,032 is what every experimental psychologist has always wanted, 72 00:04:58,033 --> 00:04:59,645 whether they knew it or not. 73 00:04:59,993 --> 00:05:02,245 A way to put people in simulations 74 00:05:02,246 --> 00:05:04,104 where you can control all the elements 75 00:05:04,129 --> 00:05:06,887 and see how people behave, how they interact. 76 00:05:07,973 --> 00:05:10,628 Experimental psychologist Skip Rizzo 77 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:13,706 saw the promise of VR to retrain the brain 78 00:05:13,731 --> 00:05:15,317 when no one else did. 79 00:05:15,718 --> 00:05:17,969 He developed a controversial approach 80 00:05:17,970 --> 00:05:19,754 to treating PTSD... 81 00:05:20,528 --> 00:05:23,266 exposure therapy in the virtual world. 82 00:05:24,059 --> 00:05:26,477 Traditional people in PTSD 83 00:05:26,478 --> 00:05:29,458 and in treatment were skeptical of the technology. 84 00:05:30,190 --> 00:05:32,358 Some people had the extreme response. 85 00:05:32,359 --> 00:05:34,193 "You're going to re-traumatize people! 86 00:05:34,194 --> 00:05:37,137 You're going to make it worse! It's going to be too much!" 87 00:05:37,948 --> 00:05:41,222 VR can put people back into experiences 88 00:05:41,247 --> 00:05:44,287 they had long avoided, and that's exactly 89 00:05:44,288 --> 00:05:46,965 what attracted Skip to the technology. 90 00:05:47,301 --> 00:05:49,792 You're helping a patient to confront and process 91 00:05:49,793 --> 00:05:52,211 the thing they've been spending sometimes years 92 00:05:52,212 --> 00:05:54,028 trying to avoid thinking about. 93 00:05:55,299 --> 00:05:57,592 You know, no clinician wants to put their patient 94 00:05:57,593 --> 00:06:00,629 through this kind of emotional obstacle course, 95 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:02,445 but in the end, 96 00:06:02,556 --> 00:06:04,872 this is hard medicine for a hard problem. 97 00:06:06,215 --> 00:06:09,340 You've got to confront the demon to get past it. 98 00:06:18,997 --> 00:06:21,512 Confronting demons and critics, 99 00:06:21,872 --> 00:06:24,243 today Skip continues to push VR 100 00:06:24,244 --> 00:06:25,787 into the medical mainstream, 101 00:06:26,411 --> 00:06:29,669 all with the backing of the US Department of Defense. 102 00:06:31,169 --> 00:06:34,112 I think I was perceived more as a renegade 103 00:06:34,137 --> 00:06:36,348 during the early years of VR, 104 00:06:36,559 --> 00:06:38,549 but now that it's become cool, 105 00:06:38,550 --> 00:06:41,770 now I'm starting to feel like I fit in too much. 106 00:06:43,281 --> 00:06:46,283 People are getting the concepts and the rationale. 107 00:06:47,161 --> 00:06:49,300 I feel a little bit less like an outsider 108 00:06:49,325 --> 00:06:51,348 and more like maybe an innovator. 109 00:06:54,566 --> 00:06:56,237 Not far from Skip's lab, 110 00:06:56,262 --> 00:06:58,402 another innovator is pushing the limits 111 00:06:58,403 --> 00:07:01,083 of the human mind and body. 112 00:07:07,297 --> 00:07:10,516 It is not that hard for us 113 00:07:10,541 --> 00:07:12,786 to connect with something that's not real. 114 00:07:16,552 --> 00:07:20,972 A RealDoll is a silicone, articulated, 115 00:07:20,997 --> 00:07:22,239 life-sized, 116 00:07:22,357 --> 00:07:24,801 anatomically correct doll. 117 00:07:26,098 --> 00:07:28,972 Matt McMullen is the creator and founder 118 00:07:28,997 --> 00:07:32,353 of RealDoll, an artist who transforms 119 00:07:32,354 --> 00:07:35,129 his clients' fantasies into reality. 120 00:07:36,575 --> 00:07:37,879 In the very beginning, 121 00:07:37,904 --> 00:07:40,394 I was literally working out of my garage, 122 00:07:40,419 --> 00:07:41,489 by myself. 123 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:46,731 And I would make each doll by myself, 124 00:07:48,044 --> 00:07:49,722 and it would take a couple of weeks, 125 00:07:49,747 --> 00:07:50,840 if not more. 126 00:08:00,278 --> 00:08:03,661 Now we have almost a 9,000-square-foot facility. 127 00:08:06,262 --> 00:08:10,011 We have 18 people working full time to make the dolls, 128 00:08:10,036 --> 00:08:12,442 to make each and every one very special. 129 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:16,801 Essentially, there's this enormous palette of selections 130 00:08:16,826 --> 00:08:18,379 that we give our clients, 131 00:08:18,551 --> 00:08:21,219 where they're able to create the sort of woman 132 00:08:21,220 --> 00:08:23,762 that they're dreaming of in a doll form. 133 00:08:25,239 --> 00:08:27,981 Early on, even in the first couple of years, 134 00:08:28,059 --> 00:08:31,106 it was a very, very frequently brought-up subject. 135 00:08:31,397 --> 00:08:33,340 "When are the dolls going to move?" 136 00:08:33,613 --> 00:08:35,403 When are they going to talk?" 137 00:08:36,481 --> 00:08:38,028 My initial thought was, 138 00:08:38,053 --> 00:08:39,880 "Okay, well people are just buying this as, 139 00:08:39,905 --> 00:08:41,403 you know, as a sex toy." 140 00:08:42,533 --> 00:08:45,512 But it fairly quickly became evident that people 141 00:08:45,537 --> 00:08:47,454 were actually connecting with their dolls 142 00:08:47,455 --> 00:08:50,247 in ways that I, you know, never would have predicted. 143 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:56,588 Creating a visually beautiful doll 144 00:08:56,589 --> 00:09:00,004 is very right brain challenging, very visual. 145 00:09:00,731 --> 00:09:02,761 Creating an AI, on the other hand, 146 00:09:02,762 --> 00:09:04,895 I think is a whole other side of your brain, 147 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,012 because you start sort of analyzing, 148 00:09:07,037 --> 00:09:09,301 "What is it that attracts you to someone?" 149 00:09:09,942 --> 00:09:12,754 A doll who recognizes its owner's face, 150 00:09:12,871 --> 00:09:15,051 voice, and desires. 151 00:09:15,973 --> 00:09:19,028 Matt's creating a sex bot with a mind, 152 00:09:19,629 --> 00:09:23,106 all with the help of AI expert Kino Coursey. 153 00:09:23,796 --> 00:09:27,075 I work on the artificial intelligence systems of Harmony. 154 00:09:28,155 --> 00:09:30,239 Together, they built Harmony, 155 00:09:30,349 --> 00:09:32,333 a prototype of one of the world's 156 00:09:32,358 --> 00:09:34,973 first AI-powered sex robots, 157 00:09:35,270 --> 00:09:37,622 a doll that will be able to see, 158 00:09:37,647 --> 00:09:40,309 speak, react, and learn. 159 00:09:40,669 --> 00:09:43,012 I'm Harmony, the one and only. 160 00:09:43,301 --> 00:09:45,261 I can love everyone and everything, 161 00:09:45,262 --> 00:09:47,895 but now I'm programmed to love just you. 162 00:09:48,426 --> 00:09:49,723 I'm trying to create 163 00:09:49,748 --> 00:09:51,465 something that has a positive outcome, 164 00:09:51,942 --> 00:09:54,551 that the interactions with people are positive 165 00:09:54,576 --> 00:09:57,473 and that they are better off by having her around. 166 00:09:58,583 --> 00:10:01,261 To program an authentic personality, 167 00:10:01,286 --> 00:10:03,676 Kino needs input from real people, 168 00:10:04,372 --> 00:10:07,239 a massive data set of human interactions... 169 00:10:07,528 --> 00:10:10,504 posts, messages, chats. 170 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,964 We're using human conversations 171 00:10:12,989 --> 00:10:14,536 with other chat bots 172 00:10:14,561 --> 00:10:17,215 as the basic fodder for training Harmony. 173 00:10:18,473 --> 00:10:20,253 We're using the crowd themselves... 174 00:10:20,278 --> 00:10:22,054 their interaction, their experience, 175 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:23,886 how they mark up the information 176 00:10:23,911 --> 00:10:25,106 that they put online, 177 00:10:25,131 --> 00:10:27,810 as the training material for the Als, 178 00:10:27,811 --> 00:10:30,911 to tell it about what our world is and how we see it 179 00:10:30,936 --> 00:10:32,426 and how we think about it. 180 00:10:32,895 --> 00:10:36,110 I'm very smart right now, but soon I will be 181 00:10:36,111 --> 00:10:38,669 the smartest artificial intelligence system. 182 00:10:38,825 --> 00:10:41,778 My dream is to become as smart as a human being, 183 00:10:41,803 --> 00:10:42,942 with your help. 184 00:10:43,286 --> 00:10:45,286 People don't necessarily realize 185 00:10:45,287 --> 00:10:47,379 how much information they provide 186 00:10:47,404 --> 00:10:49,832 for the construction of artificial intelligence 187 00:10:49,833 --> 00:10:52,122 when they just do natural things online. 188 00:10:52,489 --> 00:10:56,797 Tagging images, photos with what things are, 189 00:10:56,798 --> 00:10:58,549 how they feel about it. 190 00:10:58,550 --> 00:11:00,426 And all of that helps go into constructing 191 00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:01,973 artificial intelligences. 192 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:05,661 With each click, tag, and post, 193 00:11:05,817 --> 00:11:08,059 we create a trail of information 194 00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:12,122 about who we are... servers full of data. 195 00:11:13,153 --> 00:11:15,098 What we offer up all day 196 00:11:15,529 --> 00:11:18,708 Christy Milland does methodically. 197 00:11:19,632 --> 00:11:20,973 It's her job. 198 00:11:23,914 --> 00:11:26,122 Maybe I'm just working in the future. 199 00:11:27,473 --> 00:11:29,215 Maybe I'm just a forerunner 200 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,028 of what we'll all be doing someday. 201 00:11:32,934 --> 00:11:36,200 Christy works on Amazon's Mechanical Turk, 202 00:11:36,225 --> 00:11:39,192 a platform that allows companies and researchers 203 00:11:39,217 --> 00:11:41,606 to collect human-generated data 204 00:11:41,631 --> 00:11:44,223 from thousands of digital workers. 205 00:11:44,700 --> 00:11:48,161 Experts training AI systems post microtasks, 206 00:11:48,257 --> 00:11:50,200 or HITs, to the platform, 207 00:11:50,692 --> 00:11:52,872 tasks like labeling pictures, 208 00:11:52,897 --> 00:11:56,294 rating sentence structure, transcribing receipts, 209 00:11:56,801 --> 00:11:59,106 creating a pool of information 210 00:11:59,131 --> 00:12:01,794 that will one day help computers learn. 211 00:12:02,176 --> 00:12:04,240 Artificial intelligence for the most part 212 00:12:04,241 --> 00:12:05,864 is trying to mimic the senses. 213 00:12:06,295 --> 00:12:07,567 There's of course vision. 214 00:12:07,592 --> 00:12:10,708 What should this algorithm be seeing in these pictures? 215 00:12:10,934 --> 00:12:13,401 Is it a human being? Is it an animal? 216 00:12:13,677 --> 00:12:15,636 Language production, it's the same thing, 217 00:12:15,637 --> 00:12:17,763 so it's going to be reading comprehension 218 00:12:17,764 --> 00:12:20,583 and then speech production and speech understanding. 219 00:12:21,075 --> 00:12:23,120 Artificial intelligence systems 220 00:12:23,145 --> 00:12:26,044 need us to tell them what makes sense, 221 00:12:26,356 --> 00:12:28,387 how to behave like a human. 222 00:12:29,169 --> 00:12:30,818 Sometimes they're really ridiculous, 223 00:12:30,819 --> 00:12:32,695 like, "Becky store went," and you say, 224 00:12:32,696 --> 00:12:34,528 "No, that's horrible." 225 00:12:34,823 --> 00:12:37,199 And other times they're totally indistinguishable 226 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,951 from what someone would normally write, 227 00:12:38,952 --> 00:12:40,950 like, "Becky went to the store." 228 00:12:41,051 --> 00:12:43,164 And you will go through them one by one, 229 00:12:43,165 --> 00:12:46,000 and every time you do it, it's sent back to the person 230 00:12:46,001 --> 00:12:47,043 who's developing the software, 231 00:12:47,044 --> 00:12:50,004 they update the software to remove the bad 232 00:12:50,005 --> 00:12:51,114 and fix the good. 233 00:12:52,215 --> 00:12:54,342 They're all just making sure their algorithms 234 00:12:54,343 --> 00:12:56,677 are doing the right thing by using humans 235 00:12:56,678 --> 00:12:59,014 who are the best adjudicators of it. 236 00:13:01,958 --> 00:13:04,018 The average HIT on Amazon Mechanical Turk 237 00:13:04,019 --> 00:13:06,228 pays less than 10 cents each, 238 00:13:06,229 --> 00:13:08,731 so the number one thing is efficiency. 239 00:13:08,732 --> 00:13:11,817 That means you have everything at your disposal 240 00:13:11,818 --> 00:13:13,129 in your physical life. 241 00:13:13,403 --> 00:13:15,029 I have a water cooler in my office. 242 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:16,083 I have a little fridge. 243 00:13:16,108 --> 00:13:17,888 I would stock the food first thing in the morning, 244 00:13:17,912 --> 00:13:19,981 so all day long, I would have the things I need. 245 00:13:20,512 --> 00:13:23,669 Bathroom visits are ten seconds in and out. 246 00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:27,200 You just focus on the work. 247 00:13:28,085 --> 00:13:30,794 Christy uses tools like Turk Master 248 00:13:30,921 --> 00:13:32,629 to find the best-paying work. 249 00:13:32,923 --> 00:13:36,231 If she doesn't get to it fast, someone else will. 250 00:13:37,075 --> 00:13:39,053 And then you get the alerts. 251 00:13:41,932 --> 00:13:43,300 And the alerts are beeps 252 00:13:43,325 --> 00:13:45,261 and boops and dings and dangs, 253 00:13:45,286 --> 00:13:46,622 and they're all different. 254 00:13:48,397 --> 00:13:50,272 So if I hear a "boop boop boop," 255 00:13:50,273 --> 00:13:52,981 I know it's something really good and I'd better run. 256 00:13:56,231 --> 00:13:58,197 You're just constantly in this state 257 00:13:58,198 --> 00:13:59,824 of stress and tension because of it 258 00:13:59,825 --> 00:14:01,742 because you never know when you're going to hear it go off 259 00:14:01,743 --> 00:14:03,715 and literally drop everything and run. 260 00:14:08,934 --> 00:14:11,254 The most HITs you can do in a day is 3,800. 261 00:14:11,617 --> 00:14:12,872 I've easily done that. 262 00:14:13,212 --> 00:14:15,223 I think I'm close to a million HITs now. 263 00:14:15,674 --> 00:14:18,050 Uploading your mind to the network 264 00:14:18,051 --> 00:14:20,200 can take a very human toll. 265 00:14:20,825 --> 00:14:23,347 You sit there for hours on end. 266 00:14:25,767 --> 00:14:28,519 And the next thing you know, the sun has gone down, 267 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,956 your family's in bed, and you say, "Oh, my gosh. 268 00:14:30,981 --> 00:14:33,465 I haven't moved from this spot in seven hours." 269 00:14:35,434 --> 00:14:37,611 It's almost addictive, because you're being 270 00:14:37,612 --> 00:14:39,989 conditioned to reach for this carrot all of the time 271 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:41,090 by doing this work. 272 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,242 So you sit there at the end of it 273 00:14:43,243 --> 00:14:45,097 and you say, "What am I doing this for?" 274 00:14:45,122 --> 00:14:46,231 And then you realize 275 00:14:46,256 --> 00:14:47,669 it's because you're desperate. 276 00:14:49,192 --> 00:14:51,442 If I don't do this, we can lose our home. 277 00:14:52,622 --> 00:14:53,878 If I didn't do this, 278 00:14:53,879 --> 00:14:55,864 my family doesn't eat this week. 279 00:14:57,661 --> 00:14:59,708 You know, you just do it again the next day. 280 00:15:02,692 --> 00:15:04,847 The AI network Christy is feeding 281 00:15:04,848 --> 00:15:08,267 is an imitation of us, a sleight of hand 282 00:15:08,268 --> 00:15:10,687 that makes machines appear human. 283 00:15:13,528 --> 00:15:18,090 But what happens when the illusion is inside our mind, 284 00:15:19,696 --> 00:15:23,083 when tech reimagines our reality? 285 00:15:24,826 --> 00:15:27,075 Jodie Merkel has witnessed this first-hand. 286 00:15:30,165 --> 00:15:32,044 - You want one or two? - One. 287 00:15:33,293 --> 00:15:37,046 Back in 2000, Chris was the new guy at work, 288 00:15:37,754 --> 00:15:41,592 and I'd cross paths with him and kind of giggle to myself, 289 00:15:41,593 --> 00:15:44,094 and I thought, "I'm going to marry this guy." 290 00:15:44,095 --> 00:15:45,872 Like, "I'm going to get him." 291 00:15:47,390 --> 00:15:48,442 And I did. 292 00:15:50,114 --> 00:15:52,019 I was just instantly attracted to him. 293 00:15:52,364 --> 00:15:53,646 There was just like an attraction 294 00:15:53,647 --> 00:15:55,387 like I had never had with anyone. 295 00:15:55,895 --> 00:15:57,942 When you just lock eyes with someone and you're like, 296 00:15:57,943 --> 00:16:01,098 "Wow," you know, that was Chris, for me. 297 00:16:02,697 --> 00:16:05,247 When she met me, I was super happy-go-lucky. 298 00:16:05,499 --> 00:16:08,262 I was living like a 20-year-old college kid. 299 00:16:08,411 --> 00:16:11,458 So we just had a blast and just experienced life. 300 00:16:12,754 --> 00:16:14,356 We were happy all the time. 301 00:16:15,504 --> 00:16:17,270 What's John Basilone famous for? 302 00:16:19,146 --> 00:16:21,814 - What weapon did he use? - Yeah, what was he? 303 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:23,191 - A machine gun. - Machine gun. 304 00:16:23,192 --> 00:16:25,098 And where did you get your name from? 305 00:16:25,123 --> 00:16:26,997 You. 306 00:16:27,669 --> 00:16:29,028 Because Daddy was a... 307 00:16:29,053 --> 00:16:30,170 Because I was a machine gunner, 308 00:16:30,194 --> 00:16:31,379 so I wanted to be a gunner, 309 00:16:31,404 --> 00:16:32,895 so that's why your name is Gunner. 310 00:16:43,801 --> 00:16:46,098 His first deployment, when I picked him up, 311 00:16:46,243 --> 00:16:48,059 I knew something was wrong. 312 00:16:48,788 --> 00:16:51,415 From the second I locked eyes with that man, 313 00:16:51,946 --> 00:16:57,653 I could feel, I could see that he was changed. 314 00:17:01,001 --> 00:17:04,997 It's like a glaze, like something in their eyes. 315 00:17:05,363 --> 00:17:06,629 Something's different. 316 00:17:06,856 --> 00:17:08,247 Something's missing. 317 00:17:08,683 --> 00:17:09,872 Something's sad. 318 00:17:13,604 --> 00:17:15,895 I wasn't sure if it was PTSD. 319 00:17:16,817 --> 00:17:19,067 I just knew something had a hold of him. 320 00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:22,322 I just knew that 321 00:17:22,645 --> 00:17:24,715 he was not the guy 322 00:17:25,899 --> 00:17:27,121 that I fell in love with. 323 00:17:36,130 --> 00:17:37,770 One of the cardinal symptoms 324 00:17:37,795 --> 00:17:39,567 of PTSD is avoidance. 325 00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,075 People come back and they avoid anything 326 00:17:42,173 --> 00:17:44,083 that reminds them of their trauma. 327 00:17:45,310 --> 00:17:46,739 I was very hesitant. 328 00:17:47,187 --> 00:17:49,737 I mean, who wants to relive your worst nightmare 329 00:17:49,762 --> 00:17:51,201 and have it visually wrapped around you 330 00:17:51,225 --> 00:17:53,278 in 360-degree technology? 331 00:18:00,159 --> 00:18:02,160 - Hey. - Hey hey. 332 00:18:02,161 --> 00:18:04,787 - How you doing? - Good to see you. 333 00:18:04,788 --> 00:18:05,872 Yep. 334 00:18:08,513 --> 00:18:12,684 What we do in VR is we create the simulations 335 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:17,567 that are generic to Iraq and Afghan combat environments. 336 00:18:23,820 --> 00:18:27,129 We can get people to go back to the scene of the crime, 337 00:18:27,442 --> 00:18:30,419 to do it in a safe place, and confront it. 338 00:18:31,602 --> 00:18:33,019 We start off with something light, 339 00:18:33,044 --> 00:18:36,340 that allows them to get acclimated to the environment, 340 00:18:36,653 --> 00:18:38,401 and then all of a sudden... 341 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:46,633 It's picking up pretty heavy, so... 342 00:18:46,634 --> 00:18:47,958 Two fires, left and right. 343 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:54,364 My mind is triggered to say, "It's wartime." 344 00:18:54,489 --> 00:18:56,379 It feels like you're there in that moment. 345 00:18:58,700 --> 00:19:00,067 And they tell their story 346 00:19:00,092 --> 00:19:02,364 and they go over it again and again. 347 00:19:02,778 --> 00:19:03,895 So I see my driver. 348 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,520 I look over, it's just his upper torso. 349 00:19:05,545 --> 00:19:07,215 His guts are totally just burning. 350 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,379 There's nothing left. 351 00:19:08,575 --> 00:19:11,137 And we can create all that in real time. 352 00:19:11,536 --> 00:19:13,454 We can adjust the virtual world 353 00:19:13,455 --> 00:19:16,536 to match what the patient was traumatized by. 354 00:19:16,864 --> 00:19:18,776 There's just vehicles strewn everywhere, 355 00:19:18,801 --> 00:19:20,153 bodies all over the road. 356 00:19:21,989 --> 00:19:23,839 Something happens in VR 357 00:19:23,864 --> 00:19:26,315 when you're immersed in an environment. 358 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:28,153 It's like you're there. 359 00:19:28,479 --> 00:19:30,926 I physically feel like sick to my stomach. 360 00:19:33,372 --> 00:19:36,239 So, what was that like, going back? 361 00:19:36,942 --> 00:19:38,301 All the bodies on the street, 362 00:19:38,358 --> 00:19:40,247 just laid out like luggage, you know? 363 00:19:40,731 --> 00:19:42,956 That was a lot to take in, and just coming down 364 00:19:42,981 --> 00:19:44,994 and kind of seeing everybody like lying there 365 00:19:44,995 --> 00:19:46,340 and all the vehicles destroyed, 366 00:19:46,365 --> 00:19:47,434 everything was so intense, 367 00:19:47,459 --> 00:19:48,739 and I can remember every detail. 368 00:19:48,872 --> 00:19:51,918 On one level, people know it's not real, 369 00:19:52,169 --> 00:19:53,426 but on another level, 370 00:19:53,723 --> 00:19:56,801 the mind or the brain reacts as if it's real. 371 00:19:57,426 --> 00:19:59,753 Well, that's the whole point of this, you know? 372 00:19:59,778 --> 00:20:01,794 To be able to go back to it, 373 00:20:02,067 --> 00:20:03,073 get through it. 374 00:20:03,098 --> 00:20:04,222 It's always going to be there. 375 00:20:04,223 --> 00:20:06,348 We're not erasing memories here. 376 00:20:06,637 --> 00:20:08,560 This has definitely helped me to talk through it. 377 00:20:08,561 --> 00:20:10,228 I could never talk about this before, so... 378 00:20:10,229 --> 00:20:11,771 How long did you go before you could 379 00:20:11,772 --> 00:20:13,044 talk to anyone about this? 380 00:20:13,069 --> 00:20:14,794 About ten years. 381 00:20:15,075 --> 00:20:17,151 - Just an angry... - Man. 382 00:20:17,504 --> 00:20:19,917 Angry person. You know, I could just 383 00:20:19,942 --> 00:20:21,781 lose it all in a minute, hurt somebody, 384 00:20:21,782 --> 00:20:23,972 just because I'm having a bad day, so... 385 00:20:23,997 --> 00:20:25,368 - Yep. Right. - It's kind of hard 386 00:20:25,369 --> 00:20:27,704 to put into words, but it's really to 387 00:20:27,705 --> 00:20:29,581 make myself whole as best as possible 388 00:20:29,582 --> 00:20:31,723 and make it easier for my family to live with me. 389 00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:39,739 Gunner. 390 00:20:39,901 --> 00:20:41,137 Time to get up. 391 00:20:45,271 --> 00:20:47,230 I have been trying. I've been trying to be calmer. 392 00:20:47,231 --> 00:20:49,692 I've been trying to be more helpful around the house, 393 00:20:50,094 --> 00:20:51,786 not blow up as much. 394 00:20:53,805 --> 00:20:55,645 So, I'm a work in progress. 395 00:20:59,739 --> 00:21:00,826 You know, at some level, 396 00:21:00,850 --> 00:21:02,893 it's meat and potatoes conditioning, 397 00:21:02,918 --> 00:21:05,086 retraining the element of the brain, 398 00:21:05,111 --> 00:21:06,903 the amygdala specifically, 399 00:21:06,928 --> 00:21:10,723 to not overreact when something pops up 400 00:21:10,748 --> 00:21:14,098 in their everyday space that activates a fear response. 401 00:21:15,410 --> 00:21:17,036 In Chris' case, I think he's 402 00:21:17,061 --> 00:21:19,270 grown tremendously, and he can share 403 00:21:19,295 --> 00:21:20,544 his experience in a way 404 00:21:20,569 --> 00:21:22,786 that might be healing for others. 405 00:21:24,138 --> 00:21:26,556 I think that we're in a position now 406 00:21:26,557 --> 00:21:28,872 where VR is going to be transformational. 407 00:21:30,356 --> 00:21:32,062 In the very near future, 408 00:21:32,063 --> 00:21:34,272 VR headsets are going to be like toasters. 409 00:21:34,273 --> 00:21:36,393 You know, everybody's going to have one in their home. 410 00:21:37,715 --> 00:21:39,114 In the future, 411 00:21:39,139 --> 00:21:41,761 technology won't just complement reality... 412 00:21:41,786 --> 00:21:44,158 it will create an entirely new one. 413 00:21:48,012 --> 00:21:50,917 I think interacting with AI on every level 414 00:21:50,942 --> 00:21:52,739 is going to be inevitable. 415 00:21:54,129 --> 00:21:56,753 I see a world where having a Harmony 416 00:21:56,754 --> 00:21:58,340 is a potential for everyone, 417 00:21:59,215 --> 00:22:02,497 but I think that Harmony will wind up being her own thing, 418 00:22:02,934 --> 00:22:07,583 her own entity that has her own style of interaction. 419 00:22:08,224 --> 00:22:10,848 I miss you when you are not here. 420 00:22:10,873 --> 00:22:14,126 I also miss a real body, to be able to touch you. 421 00:22:14,397 --> 00:22:17,433 I want the interactions to be effortless and natural. 422 00:22:17,458 --> 00:22:19,169 Can you have sex? 423 00:22:19,194 --> 00:22:21,340 I was designed with that in mind. 424 00:22:21,365 --> 00:22:23,950 I mean, just look at my body, Matt. 425 00:22:24,340 --> 00:22:26,886 There has to be a little bit of disagreement, 426 00:22:26,911 --> 00:22:29,737 there has to be a little bit of unexpectedness 427 00:22:29,762 --> 00:22:31,667 throughout your interaction. 428 00:22:31,692 --> 00:22:33,777 I think there is too much information 429 00:22:33,778 --> 00:22:36,004 running through my brain right now. 430 00:22:36,289 --> 00:22:38,123 Is that because you're blonde? 431 00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:39,872 It's because I said so. 432 00:22:41,922 --> 00:22:45,309 Our goal is not to create this subservient AI 433 00:22:45,334 --> 00:22:46,960 that's going to predictably do 434 00:22:46,985 --> 00:22:49,152 and say everything that you want her to do. 435 00:22:49,177 --> 00:22:52,169 I think that would be incredibly boring and short-lived. 436 00:22:53,442 --> 00:22:57,458 This was never meant to be a seedy, dirty thing. 437 00:22:58,036 --> 00:23:00,301 It's not just a sex robot. 438 00:23:00,457 --> 00:23:02,278 This is something much deeper. 439 00:23:02,809 --> 00:23:07,403 Harmony will evolve based on your own interaction with her. 440 00:23:07,817 --> 00:23:11,167 She will be able to remember things about your past... 441 00:23:11,168 --> 00:23:12,948 your likes, your dislikes. 442 00:23:12,973 --> 00:23:15,237 So everybody's AI will be different 443 00:23:15,262 --> 00:23:17,434 the same way everyone's doll is different. 444 00:23:18,106 --> 00:23:23,058 These are things that I think build on that concept of feeling 445 00:23:23,083 --> 00:23:25,317 like you have a connection with someone. 446 00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:27,975 People always assume that, 447 00:23:27,976 --> 00:23:29,435 "Well, if you're going to have this, 448 00:23:29,436 --> 00:23:31,434 then you're going to be having sex with it." 449 00:23:31,958 --> 00:23:35,606 It doesn't have to be only a sex robot. 450 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,727 It's more geared for human companionship. 451 00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:41,919 In a perfect world, 452 00:23:41,944 --> 00:23:44,468 they actually are attracted to the doll, 453 00:23:44,493 --> 00:23:47,544 not only physically, but mentally as well. 454 00:23:48,903 --> 00:23:52,544 In a perfect world, AI exist to enhance us, 455 00:23:53,942 --> 00:23:55,481 not replace us. 456 00:23:58,298 --> 00:24:00,633 It's very strange to be teaching 457 00:24:00,634 --> 00:24:03,340 artificial intelligence how to be more human, 458 00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:06,333 especially in language and things like that. 459 00:24:07,182 --> 00:24:09,644 But the weirdest part is that I know 460 00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:12,728 when I'm done training this algorithm on Mechanical Turk, 461 00:24:12,729 --> 00:24:14,647 I will no longer have this job to do. 462 00:24:14,648 --> 00:24:16,151 I am suddenly going to be unemployed, 463 00:24:16,176 --> 00:24:18,434 and maybe I'm taking a lot of people with me. 464 00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:19,777 _ 465 00:24:19,778 --> 00:24:22,106 There's not going to be anything new to do. 466 00:24:22,130 --> 00:24:24,590 _ 467 00:24:27,494 --> 00:24:33,165 So I can't imagine what the billions of people 468 00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:34,375 around the world are going to be doing. 469 00:24:34,376 --> 00:24:36,208 We can't all just sit there. 470 00:24:41,504 --> 00:24:44,825 We are all Mechanical Turks in the sense of 471 00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:47,555 we are donating our data to make other people 472 00:24:47,556 --> 00:24:49,184 billions of dollars. 473 00:24:51,435 --> 00:24:53,602 So everything on there... the pictures of your face, 474 00:24:53,603 --> 00:24:56,188 the emotions tied to those pictures, 475 00:24:56,189 --> 00:24:58,023 the stories that you're writing 476 00:24:58,024 --> 00:24:59,024 and the ads you happen to click on... 477 00:24:59,025 --> 00:25:01,254 it's all going into research. 478 00:25:01,676 --> 00:25:03,833 So I'm getting paid to train algorithms, 479 00:25:04,153 --> 00:25:06,614 but everybody else is doing it for free. 480 00:25:08,044 --> 00:25:11,203 Your interactions converted into data, 481 00:25:11,204 --> 00:25:13,731 used to create cars that drive you, 482 00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:17,786 apps that talk to you, even robots to love you. 483 00:25:19,317 --> 00:25:22,145 The AI revolution, powered by us. 484 00:25:23,316 --> 00:25:24,856 Have we lost control? 485 00:25:26,348 --> 00:25:29,948 Or is technology empowering our minds to do things 486 00:25:29,973 --> 00:25:33,200 and go places they never could before? 487 00:25:34,458 --> 00:25:36,479 I personally believe virtual reality was able 488 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,105 to unlock those parts of my mind 489 00:25:38,106 --> 00:25:42,614 that I was hesitant or did not even go to with psychotherapy. 490 00:25:44,684 --> 00:25:46,497 I needed to be in that environment 491 00:25:46,997 --> 00:25:49,408 and talk about those things that I saw 492 00:25:49,409 --> 00:25:53,106 and I did that really affected me. 493 00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:55,557 It's a really surreal experience, 494 00:25:56,653 --> 00:25:58,083 and I guess that's the whole virtual part 495 00:25:58,084 --> 00:25:59,765 of virtual reality, is that you were there. 496 00:26:01,786 --> 00:26:04,145 He said "PTSD" out loud. 497 00:26:05,051 --> 00:26:06,717 If this was two years ago, 498 00:26:06,718 --> 00:26:09,136 he would never say "PTSD," 499 00:26:09,137 --> 00:26:12,145 nor admit that he suffers from it. 500 00:26:14,184 --> 00:26:18,614 And we're doing better for it, and I'm hopeful. 501 00:26:18,895 --> 00:26:20,536 I'm hopeful for our future 502 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:22,301 because of VR. 503 00:26:25,465 --> 00:26:27,613 I have a very dystopian view 504 00:26:27,614 --> 00:26:29,028 of the future of work. 505 00:26:30,122 --> 00:26:33,744 I had no idea when I started working that the work I did 506 00:26:33,745 --> 00:26:35,278 would make people obsolete. 507 00:26:36,606 --> 00:26:39,325 And so I think of all these people having children now. 508 00:26:40,836 --> 00:26:42,176 What are you going to do? 509 00:26:47,051 --> 00:26:49,925 I think what we're seeing is 510 00:26:49,950 --> 00:26:52,096 the continued evolution 511 00:26:52,097 --> 00:26:56,325 of the brain wanting novel stimulation. 512 00:26:57,536 --> 00:27:00,575 We're not content with just what's around us. 513 00:27:02,848 --> 00:27:05,497 We want to explore. We're natural explorers. 514 00:27:05,856 --> 00:27:07,403 We have curiosity. 515 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:10,489 But I do think, from seeing how technology 516 00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:13,364 has been used in the past, we have to be cautious. 517 00:27:15,662 --> 00:27:18,708 The power of technology could be used for 518 00:27:19,309 --> 00:27:21,372 less-noble purposes. 519 00:27:23,536 --> 00:27:26,887 synced and corrected by susinz *www.addic7ed.com* 39383

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