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Okay. Hi,

come on in.

Hello.

Okay,

so, uh, Mink?

Yeah, hi. And her stepdad, Rusty.

Rusty. Good to meet you. Hi, it's really nice to meet both of you. Would you

like to have a seat?

Sure.

So I am Dr. Penny Barber.

I have been practicing therapy for quite a while now.

I decided to focus on family therapy very early on in my relationship. I feel

like it's my calling.

I really enjoy it. It's what I want to do for the rest of my life.

Absolutely love it.

Do you have any questions for me?

Have you dealt with any other, like, father -daughter clients before?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, everyone really, you know.

I wouldn't say that I have more, like, father -daughter or mother -son. I see a

lot of siblings as well like that. But you have immediate family members.

Apparently. Occasionally something a little bit wider. But, yeah, usually

immediate family members.

Okay. Yeah.

Do you have any questions?

I mean.

Come on, Dad. This was your idea to come.

Yeah.

How can you help us with our situation?

Well, I don't know yet, but we will get into that. Can I ask you a little bit

about yourselves?

What do you do for a living?

I'm a general contractor.

I work in construction.

Have you been doing that for a long time now? A long time. A long time.

Do you like it?

It has its ups and downs, like anything.

All right. You always work in those long hours.

Well, got to keep the bills paid.

Okay. So we're going.

Minx, what are you interested in? Are you in school right now? I just

I'm about to go off to college in the fall, and I'm super excited.

Okay. I'm hoping to get into a sorority there. I will see.

I don't know. I used to chase back in my home stuff, hang out with friends.

Okay. I socialized a little.

Drag lately.

More into the dance side, the acrobatics, or what did you like about

into the dance. I like to wiggle around, you know. Okay.

All right.

That's beautiful.

Yeah. I'm really excited to grow up and get out there and get into college.

Okay.

Great. Yeah. I loved college. It was like, you know.

It's such a beautiful time in my life. I'm sure you're going to love it too.

You're exciting me all.

New friends, new boys.

I'm excited.

Maybe not too many new boys.

You always say that.

I'm just never going to get out.

Okay. It'll be fine if I meet boys.

Well, Rusty, I am so glad that you called to set up the appointment.

Maybe now is a good time to start getting into what...

What was the reason that you called in the first place? Why would you say is

reason that you called?

Well, she's acting a little rambunctious lately.

A little too wild for my comfort.

Okay. Going out and doing things.

Let's put a pin in that, actually. I would like to talk about that.

But before we do, Mink, why would you say that you're here today?

He has just been so controlling with my social life. He won't let me grow up. He

just thinks I'm still this little girl of his. I can't go out into the big, bad

world. But, like, I'm ready.

He won't let me have friends over, boys over.

Always going through my phone.

You're a little girl.

I'm a grown woman who's about to go to college. I think I can handle myself and

other people.

Okay. So, are you excited to be here in therapy? Do you feel like it might be

able to help you communicate better?

I hope it helps him get over his problems of letting me not grow up. What

your problems?

You're trying to grow up too fast.

I'm not a little girl anymore.

More of that.

Going back to what you said a minute ago, Rusty, you said that she was being

rambunctious. Can you give me any...

Specific examples of specific behaviors at specific times that bothered you.

She kind of runs off and doesn't tell me where she's going.

So you'd like her to check in more?

Yeah. I mean, her mom left and I've been

taking care of her, you know, playing both roles.

And I'd just like a little more appreciation to check in and, you know.

Keep some normal hours.

You said that your mother, her mother left?

Yeah. How long ago was that?

It's been years now.

Okay.

Do you mind if I ask about the circumstances?

You know what I'm saying? She whored off of his brother.

That is crystal clear. Okay.

Is that accurate?

Something like that.

Okay. Close enough?

Yeah. Okay.

So mom's not in the picture, so I don't need to ask how she feels about it. Even

when she was in the picture, she wasn't in the picture.

Okay. All right.

Do you feel like that's been a missing presence in your life, having a maternal

figure?

I guess I never really missed the maternal side.

Such a good job in both roles. And I kind of just ended up growing up more of

daddy's girl.

Okay. I see other girls with their mothers sometimes, and I'm like, I wish

that. But at the end of the day, mine would rather spread her legs than to be

mom. Okay.

All right.

You know, whatever your mother's reason was for leaving, you do seem to have a

very mature attitude about it.

If you would ever like to talk about it, we can certainly talk about it. You

don't have to feel one way or another about it. Okay?

That's probably fine.

So, Ma is gone.

You're not particularly concerned about her absence.

She's been gone for years now. I guess I never really noticed her being here

either. So, there's not a difference. So, you feel like you kind of grew up

without her?

Yeah. Rusty, would you say that's true, that you kind of weren't with a parent?

Oh, yeah. Definitely.

Okay. Oh, my gosh. That's probably why I'm still so protective of her.

Right. I completely forgot to mention.

So I have some cameras set up that I like to use. This is sort of like a note

-taking. I had them all going.

It's like a file. It's like an extra. My little wrist gets so tired.

So do you mind?

Okay.

They're confidential. I just like to explain them.

They're not going to end up on the internet or something.

Unless you don't pay your bill.

Yeah, okay.

Let's see here.

So let me just ask, how do you feel, Mink, about

checking in more with your father? That's the specific thing that he

He wants you to check in before you go out. I feel like he just wants to check

in so he can control everything I'm doing and stuff.

Second I check in, he's going to say no.

Who's there? What boy?

He's always so focused on the freaking boys that are there.

I just have to run off and do whatever I want because it's the only way I can go

out and do anything.

I'm not rambunctious.

I mean, I don't think I'm going out at midnight that bad.

I mean, I haven't started school yet in the fall.

Honestly, when I can't be out hanging out with friends, I'm not doing anything

wrong. Ref, do you think that you sort of are connected?

It feels shitty, honestly.

You're the one that raised me. Don't you think you could have raised me better

than that, right? I don't care if she's my mother.

Like, sure, she birthed me, but it doesn't mean I'm just like her.

We might, you know, look similar and I got some of her features, but that ends

right there.

What's the mother's status kind of like with the extended family?

Is she, like, Christmas, Thanksgiving, that kind of thing?

What do you mean?

Like, is she around on the holidays?

Not at all. She's absent.

She's been gone for years. I'm not on a birthday text in eight years.

All right. And the grandparents aren't.

Yeah, they're not part of it. They're not. Just her and I and my side of the

family. Okay.

All right. I understand.

That is certainly a situation.

My gosh.

Well, you're certainly, you know, that's quite a feat raising, you know, a girl

on your own, you know.

especially with hours like these.

That's why I've got to make sure she's not doing things her mom used to do.

Can we talk a little bit about the fixation on the boys?

Is that, again, a concern with repeating mom's decisions, behaviors,

peccadillo? Well, I'm a boy, so I don't really trust other boys, especially with

my little girl.

So I know that this can be a little bit difficult to talk about, but can you be

more specific?

Well, not really.

I don't know how.

Well, what are you afraid that boys are going to do with her as a boy yourself?

I don't know. Pressure.

Pressure.

To go skydiving. Yeah, probably not that so much.

Not that so much. Take up speed crocheting. Speed crocheting. Yeah, I

think that's it. That's probably what we're doing, Dad.

Yeah? Speed crocheting. Speed crocheting. It's a gateway hobby, I'm

Next thing you know, she's going to be knitting.

Scrapbooking. Oh, yeah. Okay. I've seen it.

Very wholesome.

Would you say that you're concerned about her sexual behavior?

Oh, yeah. I know she's a growing woman.

Curious and probably somewhat active.

Hopefully not too much.

Do you two talk about sex activities?

Not really. But I'm assuming there has been sex education at home. It's not all

at school.

I think I asked him what a condom was once.

Did you get an answer?

He told me to go look it up.

They've got some great stuff on their internet.

Google's helpful.

Alright.

But it's a concern.

It's a specific concern that maybe hasn't been discussed.

I keep using the word specific, but specifically it hasn't been discussed in

particular. He just goes, you know, he hasn't opened up that conversation, but

you know, I'm not dumb.

I've seen movies and read books and talked to people and have the internet.

So I guess I really needed that talk.

But again, you should just trust me to know that I know to do what's right.

And it's not like you don't go through my fucking phone every other night

anyway. So if I was doing anything with these boys, you'd probably know about it

pretty quick.

You know, one of the things that I really like to practice specifically as

family therapist is using

complete and accurate language when we're talking about something.

So when we're talking about sex, I like to use the word sex.

I don't like to beat around the bush.

And I think that it takes a lot of training because it's hard.

It's something that we've been specifically taught not to do in

society. You know, you use a euphemism, you say it in a different way.

But I would really enjoy the opportunity to have a completely frank and honest

discussion with both of you about erupting your concerns about making sex

Do you think that maybe we could try that just for this first session?

Yeah. As an experiment?

Sure. You hate it, you know.

But it can be very liberating. It can be...

Just affirming to be able to speak without having to think. Oh, how am I

to just say what you're thinking?

You know, I certainly don't think in those terms.

I think that most people don't we just think of the plain English of the sexual

acts that we're describing, right?

So, I mean, I think it's worth a try a little exercise maybe

It's a little awkward, but okay.

It is a little awkward. I mean, it's going to take some effort, which is why

asking you to please indulge me.

But let's go ahead.

Um, Minx, can I ask you if you are currently sexually active at all?

Yes. Not like I go around.

I've had boyfriends before.

This is what I'm talking about. I can bring up anything about my life. I'm a

grown adult now.

I'm over 18 now. I used to be able to say I was sexually active, and I am.

It doesn't mean I'm having sex with anybody and everything, but have I had

partners I was intimate with because I trusted them? Yes.

And I think that's okay because I'm not a little girl anymore.

I'm an adult who can make her own decisions and give her own consent.

All right. And, I mean, Rusty, even though it's not fun, I mean, you must

known that she was going to become sexually active at some point in her

She wasn't going to be alone.

Of course, but as a father figure and her dad, whatever, I kind of want to

keep my little girl little as long as I can. Yeah, keep her pristine as

long as possible.

Yeah. Right.

So, Rusty, you must have known that Mingus was going to be sexually active

some point in her life. She wasn't going to, you know, enter a nunnery or

anything like that.

Yeah, I mean, obviously I know that. I just wanted her to pick, you know, a

decent guy, not just run around with any kid from the block.

You know, someone's got their head on their shoulders.

More like me.

Someone that puts out some effort and works for a living.

Mm -hmm.

Do you have a partner in particular, maybe a boyfriend that you'd like to

your father about?

No. The last boyfriend I had, I broke up with before graduation because I didn't

want to go to college with someone attached to me. Yeah, that makes sense.

That's definitely common practice. So I've just been chilling solo, I guess. I

don't know.

That's what I've been told. There's been no boys as of recent, but you're kind

of also securing away any potential boy there could be.

So I don't even have a chance to find out if they're an upstanding guy like

So, Rusty, I mean, can you explain to me your

ideal situation for Minx to be in, in terms of her relationship status?

My ideal situation for her?

Stay home and be my little girl.

Well,

I mean, I think that most of my colleagues would agree with me that, you

good answer to what type of relationship Minx should be in is probably whichever

type she finds most fulfilling in the moment, which can

require a relinquishing of control.

I mean, we can't be interviewing boyfriends.

We can't even make it to that part.

Fair enough.

You're so harsh on them. You give them one look and they go freaking running

back to their car and they're terrified.

There's even rumors that were going around before graduation that no one

even come near me.

It's crazy.

Seems like you've been very strict.

He's kept me on to himself.

The last guy I tried to bring over, he scared off because he decided to come

of his room with a freaking aerosol can of hairspray, a lighter, and then told

him not to touch the garage door because the last guy that did didn't come back.

I didn't say that. Come on.

You said you were going to rotisserie chicken him.

Wait, really?

Well, he's kind of creepy.

Kind of creepy?

Don't you think it's creepy you coming at him with hairspray and a lighter like

it's a freaking torch?

For some apocalypse or something?

Just let me date.

I'll just say, Rusty, thank you for not coming into my office with a wire and

some hairspray.

I appreciate the restraint.

It was a joke.

It wasn't funny.

Yeah, we'll set the curtains on fire, too.

You know, I feel like there's a lot of history here.

You know, this is kind of like covering everything up. There's issues with mom,

you know, leaving, even though she isn't, you know, a tangible presence in

home anymore. I do sense maybe some...

you know, ghostly presence resting in your concerns about Minx repeating her

behaviors and then, you know, there's other issues with maybe some

possessiveness?

Yeah. Possibly.

Right.

Minx, how do you feel about your father? How do you feel, and this is a very

weird question, about your father's feelings?

Do you think they're understandable?

Do you think they're relatable?

Do you think they're unreasonable?

Do you think...

I mean, I can see, like, where he started with all this and his

Like, I am your little girl, and you've taken such good care of me, especially

since my mom left. I can see why you're protective.

You want me to find, like, a good man like you.

It's just, you're so overbearing, and I just feel like you're letting your

feelings get in the way of seeing the actual situation for what it is.

And that it's okay and that I'm okay to go out and do all these things and to

meet boys and just be an adult.

What would you say your ideal kind of guy is?

What can Rusty look forward to in your future?

I like men who can definitely take care of me. I do like that if I was someone

who could take care of me. I want someone that has a job with goals and

ideas.

Humor, since humor is very important to me.

Someone who's just always committed to what their intentions are and they flip

-flop.

Okay.

I don't think that's bad.

I think I have great taste in this.

Is that something you would agree with, Rusty? Someone who's straightforward can

do? Are you on your own business?

Yes. Okay.

So, I mean, it sounds like Minx is a little bit modeled on Dad.

Yeah. You know. It's not a bad thing, right?

No, it's not a bad thing. It's very healthy, actually.

But he does kind of hate that they all have motorcycles.

I have a thing for bikers.

Oh, okay. He always comes here to pick me up on them, and he freaks out every

time. I have a motorcycle myself.

You never ride it. I think it's just for show or something, honestly.

Just for show. I think he just wants to be with a cool guy or something.

Okay.

All right.

So you like the bike. It's been a little while, but you're going to like it.

Okay. All right.

Huh. That's very interesting.

Can I ask you kind of like a fun question?

How do you think you two would have gotten along if you had met

hypothetically at like the same age?

Like, let's say, you know, you were the same age as your daughter.

And Minx, you're the same age as your dad, and you both met each other.

Do you think that you two would get along?

Yeah. I can see why my mom fell for him, like, all those years ago.

I mean, I've seen pictures of you from college. You weren't that bad looking,

so.

High praise indeed.

Okay.

Why wouldn't we get along now? Why would it be any different?

Rusty? Oh, yeah.

She looks a lot like her mom.

Mm -hmm.

I'm certainly attracted to her.

What attracted you to her mother in the first place, would you say? If you had

to choose, like, three things.

Her humor.

Mm -hmm. Her looks.

Mm -hmm.

A little bit of her wild side.

Yeah. Yeah.

So those are the exact things that makes it that she was kind of looking for in

a guy.

Yeah. Yeah, which is interesting.

But I feel like what you say you're concerned about is her finding a guy

not like you.

It sounds to me like that's kind of what she is looking for, is a guy who's like

you. Yeah. Have you ever had anyone talk to you about sort of an idea of

leashes versus fences?

No.

So it's just this idea that, you know, if you keep...

You know, a dog tethered on a leash, it's going to break it and run off.

Whereas if you keep him bound within a very wide fenced area where he has a lot

of room to move around, he's more likely to stay in those bounds. And if he's

just like tethered up to his leash, he's going to chew through it.

Okay. Yeah, just a metaphor.

Something to think about.

And I'd like you to think about it while we do a little exercise together.

Okay? Okay.

I already very much appreciate both of you being on board and openly having a

discussion about, you know, sexuality and all those kinds of things. I

feel much more relaxed in the vibe.

Yeah. It was almost like an icebreaker, you know, something that was so tense

turned out to be relaxing.

So I would appreciate it if you two would do another exercise with me.

Could I ask you both to please stand up?

Okay. And could I ask you and you

to face each other?

Like this.

Okay. Now, a lot of times we don't spend a lot of time really eye -gazing with

other people.

This is actually something I...

You just practice. So, Minx, I want you to just kind of look into your father's

eyes and rest to you. I would like for you to please just look into your

daughter's eyes.

Just like that.

Is everyone lined up?

Okay.

Perfect. Okay.

Now, I want both of you to practice even more owning your own feelings,

feeling safe and relaxed.

Feeling connected.

In fact, I would like to very much encourage you to hold hands.

And beyond that, I would like to encourage some touching, some

know, skin -to -skin contact is so important in maintaining a healthy

relationship. I know it's so hippie, Dad, but I appreciate you trying it.

I want you to think about what it means. It makes you feel a little nervous just

to look at your daughter.

Just to hold your daughter's hand.

It probably shouldn't make you feel quite so nervous just to look into your

daughter's eyes.

This is someone who loves you.

More than anyone else on the planet probably from the sound of it.

There's like a really deep connection there.

I would just really love to see you both explore that.

Because I feel like you're on the same side.

But you're fighting, and I don't understand why that is.

So I feel like if we could just get some connection going, if we could just

get, you know, some exchange of energy going, some eye contact,

it could be a really beautiful thing, right?

So I want you to both take a deep breath together on the count of three. One,

two, three.

Hold it. One, two, three.

Exhale.

There we go.

And I want you to do something else for me. So Ming said like you put your hand

here on your father's chest.

Rusty would like you to put maybe this hand here on her chest. Oh, no, no.

Yeah, there you go.

You got it.

It's like a fun little puzzle.

And I want you to kind of feel each other. Take nice deep breaths.

And allow the other person to feel.

Put your whole palm down there. There you go.

And just really make contact.

Wonderful. Feel each other breathing.

Feel each other connecting.

You know, you too can do something like this whenever you feel the need to. You

don't have to just practice this in my office. You know, if you like it, and I

think that as you get more used to it, it'll start to feel more relaxing. You

can do this whenever you too feel that you need to connect.

I notice you both, especially you, Rusty, coming over at me.

I know I'm pretty, but you can look directly into Mink's eyes.

And I want you too to feel your breath sink up.

And I want you to know that you can both talk to each other about anything as

long as you are here in this space and as long as you are both connected in

way, okay?

You can really talk about anything that you need to talk about, okay?

Now I'm going to let you go first, Minx, because you seem a little more

talkative as a young girl, which is great, which I greatly encourage.

And if there's anything you want to share with your dad, anything that you

to ask your dad, anything that you've been kind of holding on to in here,

Is that something you can do?

Yeah, you just want me to say what I feel? You can say whatever you feel.

I feel like you don't want me to go to college because you want me to stay home

with you forever.

And I feel like if you approached it differently, I might be open to that.

Hoping to what?

Staying home? Yeah, with you. But you're just so controlling, you don't want to

do anything.

So I want to get out.

Well, we're here, aren't we?

This is like the first step of trying to do something.

That was great.

That was amazing.

That was something new that I feel like maybe you hadn't heard before, Rusty.

Was that new information?

Did you already kind of know that?

No, I guess I was pretty new.

Okay, pretty new.

What do you think about that idea?

For me to be less controlling and her staying home?

Yeah.

Can work on that.

Mm -hmm.

Sounds a little bit like a compromise to your situation.

Mm -hmm.

Mm -hmm.

All right, well, is there anything?

Rusty, your daughter was very brave. Very big girl.

You went first.

Is there anything that you think that you might like to say to her?

While looking into her eyes, I can see her eyes sliding off.

Getting nervous.

Although I will say that you were looking to the right, so I think that

probably accessing some very deep, true thoughts.

Oh,

you're doing it.

She's trying to find the right thing to say again.

Well, I really don't want to let her go. She's been more than a daughter to me.

Mm -hmm.

More than a daughter?

Well,

she's a companion.

She's my friend.

Mm -hmm.

Someone I can talk to and relate to.

Mm -hmm. A companion, you said?

Well, yeah. I mean, there's a friendship there.

More than just father, daughter, whatever.

It's interesting that you consider that to be kind of more.

Manx, how do you feel about that?

I feel like he's right.

Without my mom around, I guess I kind of took over that feminine role in the

household. I do all those other parts that I guess you could say a partner

would. I can see how you can see me.

That's more of a daughter than the daughter.

Okay.

All right, well, you've both been very indulgent.

So you can sit down on the couch again, but you still have to be, like,

touching, okay?

Okay. All right, I want to see some, like, intimacy.

I want to see, like, more connection. Look at that. That's so much closer.

You still seem a little bit, like, uncomfortable, but I think that you'll

into it as you get more used to it. You are a father -daughter, you know, like,

it should be more.

It should be. close relationship. I think that you'll both enjoy it if it's

more close relationship.

And that was really nice to see both of you open up like that.

And now I want to talk about letting go of some of those

boundaries.

What do we think we're going to do to address Minx's sort of budding

her desire to move out and explore?

What are we going to, what's the plan or what's the possible solution? And I

want you to both remember that there's no wrong answers or no bad pitches,

in a very safe area.

I feel like if I had a better way to explore my sexuality at home, I would

the need to get out as much and relieve or go figure out new experiences in

different environments.

I can't do anything at home or explore my sexuality.

Um, Rusty, what have you done to facilitate Mink's, you know,

existence as a sexual creature?

Because she is. I know she's your daughter, but she is.

Sorry, I don't understand.

Um, so I'm assuming you mentioned that there was some talk about sex education

where she was told to Google something?

A condom?

Yeah. Yeah.

So maybe there's been some repression there.

And I see that you're a little nervous, but I also see your hand kind of

switching a little bit.

Just a little.

Nerves. A little nervous?

Yeah.

I really haven't had those conversations with her, I guess.

That would have been probably something her mom would have.

We have time to do it right now. I am here and happy to facilitate, and I feel

like it's a conversation that's going to have to take place if you're both going

to get what you need out of this relationship.

Okay. I know that there's always so much focus on what the child needs or what

the daughter needs out of her relationship, but really it's kind of a

take.

There's still requirements and needs that a father can deal.

So, what would you be willing to do to facilitate her situation?

I know, it's so hard to say it. I don't know.

So, Rusty, would you say that you find Minx to be attractive?

Well, of course.

Would you say that you find her to be sexually attractive?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Would you say that you find her to be attractive to you?

Yeah.

Uh, Minx, how do you, uh, feel about that?

Um, I mean, I guess as I started, like, coming into my sexuality, I definitely

had some thoughts about him, and I've had moments where I'm, Was attracted to

him. Okay. That's actually fairly common, which is why I asked in the

place. But I very much appreciate both of you being honest about it. It can be

little bit strange.

So if you two just met, you think normally maybe

there would have been some attraction, maybe there would have been some

interaction there, maybe dating?

Something like that?

Likely. I mean, she's a lot like her mom.

Do you feel like that's creating tension and jealousy in the household?

Because on the surface of it, it does seem like you two are on the same page,

but then there's conflict.

I mean, that kind of makes sense, I guess.

Maybe.

This seems to be our only issue we're having is this whole possessiveness of

them.

Okay.

You know, I have one more exercise that I would like to do for the day.

And we're already kind of doing it.

So I would like you to kind of look into each other's eyes. Your hands are

touching.

You just tell each other what you would be doing if you two weren't related, if

there were no societal rules or taboos that we were concerned about breaking,

and just how you would like to interact with each other. Like, Rusty, could you

put your arm around Mix for me?

Just like that. How does that make you feel?

Okay. Yes.

Okay.

It makes you look a little funk down there.

Can you get a little more comfortable? It's all different.

It is all different. It just changed everything.

Okay. A little bit better.

Minx, can you put your head more on your shoulder?

Okay. How does it feel to be cozying up to this guy, to this man, and think of

him maybe more as a partner?

Or a boyfriend?

I guess.

Physically, it doesn't feel uncomfortable.

Okay. I mean, a part of me says that this should feel wrong

and doesn't seem right, but there's something about it that's pretty

comfortable. I like it.

It doesn't feel bad.

wrong, I guess, and I start really thinking about it, and I should.

He's a great guy. I mean, I definitely know he could go to me and protect me

be loving and love to me.

Is that good to hear, Izzy?

Mm -hmm.

Mm -hmm.

How would you two feel about just until the session is over, kind of

acting on those feelings, sort of in this, like, more clinical setting?

Kind of like letting yourself go.

Releasing those taboos and just kind of like, you know, indulging and exploring

and getting rid of all that tension and just being able to like kind of exist as

two people.

If you think of it how far as I am, I'm not opposed.

Okay. Cool.

You know, Rusty, you already put your arm around your daughter. Can you hold

her, stroke her, kiss her if you'd like, if you think that would be pleasant.

You know, just kind of look at this beautiful young woman, you know, this

that you fell in love with, you know, years ago, and just what do you want to

do? Hold her, pet her hair, kiss her, you know, take her out dancing.

You can just say you want to fuck me already.

Yeah. Make it kind of obvious.

Yeah. Yeah.

Probably not the word he would have chosen.

I'm sorry. We've worked on a new word therapy.

You want to have sex with me, don't you?

Is that so wrong?

I mean, it's something that I see pretty commonly.

Really? Yeah.

And it certainly isn't doing anyone any favors to have it bottled up.

leads to fighting and bickering and confrontation and people are upset and

end up talking to each other again.

And I feel like just indulging in some sexual expression, especially in a

therapeutical setting, it usually does more health than harm.

So we have some time.

If you two would like to explore, would it make you more comfortable maybe if I

were to...

sort of facilitate?

Most likely.

Okay.

Yes. Yes.

I mean, I'm very happy to do that.

Oh, I don't want to have my little clipboard when I'm doing it.

But yeah, I'm very happy to facilitate if you two would like to connect. Are

both of you on board? We're ready to give it a try?

Yes. Yeah?

Okay.

All right.

Can I have both of you stand up with me?

Okay.

So obviously you are both very attractive people.

Let's see where Luke gets it from.

His beautiful green eyes.

Let's see. Henry, can you take your hand and can you unbutton your dead smile

shirt?

There you go.

Rusty, could you please undo her jeans for me?

You can slip off your shoes. That's probably a good idea.

I'll slip them off.

It's easier when someone else does it first.

She's going to guide your hand kind of over her body.

And let's pull her shirt up.

And take a moment to appreciate how gorgeous she is.

Beautiful milky white skin.

Perfect little nipple.

It's so pretty.

They're like little Hershey's kisses.

Gorgeous. She has these beautiful slender arms.

Maybe she's a little wild.

Although, if they're you.

Might is.

A little bit.

Can you undo the belt for me, please?

Some thick leather.

Can you slide down Anissa's jeans as well?

I have to peel them off anymore. They are rather tight.

Can you tell me what you think of her?

Beautiful.

She's a very beautiful young lady. She has that cute little jewel in her tummy.

Oh, hello.

Your father has a very actually nice body for a man.

I wouldn't say for an older guy, but for any guy as well.

Thank you.

He's not bad to look at around the house, I guess. Yeah, it's a fun day

works his shirt off.

You're going to put your hands over him a little bit. You can do

the same. You don't have to wait for my permission to do absolutely everything.

I'm trying to follow Dr. Gordy.

Yeah, you don't like the 70s swinger party look?

Yeah,

I guess it would be black fox, but whatever.

Close enough.

I noticed that you two haven't actually kissed yet at all.

Is that something that... Oh, that was very sweet.

That was very cute. It's like out of a storybook.

Oh, I see Minx isn't asking for permission anymore. She's ready to go.

I think I am, too.

It's very beautiful.

Mm -hmm.

It's very thick.

And typically flushing with cherry.

Minx, let's have you go ahead and sit down on the couch.

Let's get the TV on.

Master, you can stand for a time.

I'm appreciating a girl's vulva as well.

A little fuzzy.

Little panty fuzz.

You're both naked. I'm supposed to be a facilitator here.

Rusty could you touch her little leg for me please?

Is it okay if I sit down on you?

Rusty I would like for you...

Just watch how I'm going to appreciate her beautiful body.

Are

your

cameras still recording?

Oh, yeah. I mean, I usually record my full sessions. I think that's the whole

thing. I mean, they just... stay in a pilot cabin don't worry okay

oh my god

I appreciate it. Thank you.

I don't know if I can do so much better at home.

Oh.

Well, I'll have to keep coming back to you for that. Very, very, very good

point. I hadn't thought of that.

Those will be handouts. We'll get you every time. I like those.

Calm down.

Is that a nice wet

place that you might enjoy?

Uh -huh. A nice park.

I'm like,

you know what to do, you dirty boy.

How does daddy want me?

Doggy?

No.

It's professional.

Like the way she strokes your cock, Matty? Uh -huh.

I just want her to know how I feel about her.

But, you know, aging faces.

What are you doing for the boy?

More or less.

I love you too.

Blast them.

But she'd always really hoped.

Yeah, she pounces really fast.

Oh, God.

Oh. Oh.

I love therapy.

I would say, Rusty, I don't think you have to worry much more about being

possessive or what kind of guy she's going to end up with.

Maybe.

Yeah. I just want you to be happy.

That's so great.

Well, I think you both did a really great job today.

I think you're both very brave.

If you ever feel like you need to have another deep conversation, I hope that

you will book another appointment.

I think we need to.

Do you want to go to the building next week?

I think so.

Later today.

Thank you both for coming in.

There is a sink and a bunch of towels in the restroom in the hallway.

Thank you.