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I really truly feel like I I've I
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learned how to act in the theater. Um,
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and that I've been lucky to be able to
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walk onto film sets with a really good
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amount of experience.
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uh that's prepared me to be able to
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um in a sense take command of a film set
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and be able to get to a place on a film
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set. So I'm enormously grateful to the
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experiences I had in theater, even the
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theater experiences I had where I didn't
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think I was that good or or the plays
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themselves weren't that good. Um, but
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there are definitely um uh experiences
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where I felt like I I was able to serve
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something,
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serve the writing, serve the tone, serve
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the comedy, serve the drama. Um, where
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something in me went to another level
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um for lots of reasons. Um,
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and sometimes it's a combination of
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things. Why? Why something will just
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work? Why, you know,
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you know, and the truth is you often
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don't even know why.
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You just know that something something
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worked. It just came together in such a
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way. You could have not have imagined
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necessarily why,
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but you were ready for that. and you,
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you know, grabbed that brass ring as it
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came around. You weren't afraid of it.
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Um, and you held it
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and you did the job.
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There's nothing you can do but be
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terrified. There's there's no pill you
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can take or or sermon you can read or
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nothing. You just have to realize that
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you will be [ __ ] in your pants and
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that's just part of the process. And you
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just kind of go, there's nothing I can
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do about it. I'm going to have to
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just throw myself to the wolves and, you
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know, hope that I come out alive at the
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end. Um, there has never been a preview
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that I' that I've experienced where I
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didn't seriously want to get incredibly
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drunk afterwards, uh, and forget
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everything that had just happened on
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that stage and hope to God I never ever
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had that feeling again. And then every
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time I do a play, I have that feeling
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again. It's absolutely terrifying.
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People just don't understand. It's it's
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I mean I can't even think of what the
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comparison is, but it's like if if
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anybody in any job had to put had to let
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everyone see their first draft of
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something or their first try at
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something. It's it's it's the you
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literally feel that you're walking out
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there absolutely naked and everyone's
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going to know that you've been faking it
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all these years and they're going to
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they're going to they're going to figure
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it out and tell you to get the hell out.
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Who let you in here?
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You can read a play. You can think you
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understand it. you can think that, yeah,
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this this could be a good part for me to
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challenge myself with
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and then you get into rehearsal and it's
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it's not as easy as you thought or it's
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more complex than you thought or you
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read it wrong or in theater you're
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trying things. You're experimenting
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dayto day when you come into rehearsal
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you're searching.
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You might attack a scene in a particular
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way in rehearsal in one day and the next
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day you're going to move on and do a
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different scene or different act, not
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come back to that scene for a week. But
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in that week's time,
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you've worked on other scenes. So maybe
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you've discovered other things about
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that character.
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You've gone home. You've lived a life.
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You've let things percolate. You're
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thinking about it. And then when you
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come back to that scene,
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you either may have a new way in,
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something has been revealed,
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you keep working on it, you keep working
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on it, you keep working on it, and then
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finally you start to get in front of an
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audience. You start to share it. An
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audience starts to have an effect on
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what you're learning about the
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character.
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There was a time when, you know, there
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was a kind of star turn. So, you know,
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Lawrence Olivia would walk into the
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rehearsal room and he'd know all of his
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lines. He'd already basically rehearsed
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the part and now they were just putting
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in all the other actors, you know. And
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this is nothing against Lawrence Livier.
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Obviously, he's one of the great actors
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of all time, but there's a difference
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between
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not doing that and coming into a
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rehearsal room and learning the lines
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with the company because of the way the
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company is saying them to you.
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It's difficult, I think. I mean, I've
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tried. I think it's difficult to learn
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lines and not learn how you're going to
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say them.
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It's difficult to learn them just
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neutrally.
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When I did Richard and when I did
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Richard the Third, I learned the first
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three acts, but I tried really hard to
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not learn how to say the lines, but just
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to know what the lines were.
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um because it was a new language and and
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I didn't want to spend, you know, the
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first three weeks of rehearsal going,
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what is it? You know, I was wanting to
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figure out what the what the intention
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was, not what the word was. And so I I I
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did it. And it was not easy to keep
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myself separated from how to say them.
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There's nothing that comes close to the
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experience of performing night after
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night.
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What you learn about yourself, what you
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learn about your stamina,
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what you learn about a character, what
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you learn about an audience,
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and the difference that you can feel
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from the first preview, the very first
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time that you share it. And usually
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that's the night I feel like I'm going
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to have a stroke because it's so
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terrifying to go out there and share it
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with an audience for the first time. You
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don't have confidence in it yet. You're
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not sure that anything that the choices
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you've made are going to work. Um,
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and that first preview, that first
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experience of sharing it for the first
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time and discovering whether what you're
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sharing they think is worth sharing
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and how off it may be or awful it could
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be on that night. First previews are
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always incredibly dangerous,
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but where it then goes
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when you then start getting notes. It's
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an interesting experience, too, because
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when you're rehearsing a play and you're
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learning a play and you're getting up
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there and you're beginning to share it
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with an audience that you almost have
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two halves of your brain, one half of
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your brain is trying to be in the
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performance and stay there and and be
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cognizant of of the journey of the play
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and and the other half is trying to do
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all the things your director has told
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you to do. in your note sessions because
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you'll sometimes after a preview you'll
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have two hours of notes. So, everyone
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gets together in the theater and they
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all sit in the audience and and the
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director goes through every single
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moment in the play that he or she wants
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to shift or change or try it this way or
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draw. Let's cut that line. Let's do it
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here. Whatever it might be. So, there's
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a part of your brain when you're
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standing on stage, you're now back in
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the show that night, but half of your
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brain is trying to remember all the
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adjustments and the changes and the
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notes that you've been given. And the
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other half of your brain is trying to be
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in the play.
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And the most extraordinary moment is
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when,
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and sometimes you feel this in previews,
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more often than not, you don't feel it
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until after you've opened that the two
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halves of your brain have become one.
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You're no longer playing notes. You're
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no longer thinking about changes. You're
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now in it
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and fully in it. And the journey is
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yours. And at a certain point, the play
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goes from the director giving notes to
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it. Now, the actors take it over. Um,
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there's of course the great line about I
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don't know which director said this, but
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it might have been Peter Hall or Trevor
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Nun who came about eight weeks after
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they'd opened
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um to basically take out all the
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additions the cast has put into the play
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since he was last there. And there's an
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incredible excitement in getting up
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every night and not necessarily going
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I'm gonna hit this the same way every
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night, but you know, last night I don't
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I didn't get the reaction that I think
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this line deserves or didn't really feel
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like I had them at this moment. You
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know, I need to work on how I get there.
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And I think it starts in the scene three
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scenes before this one. And so very
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often there's a something you're working
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on, but it starts much earlier in in the
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play.
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And
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sometimes what I'm looking for
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is
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people often say, "Oh, your favorite
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sound in the theater, it must be
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applause.
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It must be laughter."
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And in fact, my favorite sound in the
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theater
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is silence.
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Because in that silence,
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you feel an entire audience pulling
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towards you. They're absolutely in that
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moment.
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And it's almost that that's when you
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feel that they they come together as
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one. You have an entire audience leaning
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forward.
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sometimes breathless because something
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has happened on stage that was
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unexpected or violent or revealing.
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It's the most powerful sound in the
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world is that silence. So sometimes
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you're working toward trying to get that
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feeling
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that's not about anything but knowing
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they are listening.
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you know, having just spent uh 12 years
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at the head of the old Vic
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and walking onto that stage
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and feeling in those boards and in that
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wood and in that plaster
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that our voices bounce back from
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that on that stage,
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the greatest actors and actresses of
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their generation generations.
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I've played that stage and you think
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John Gilgood
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stood on this stage in 1928
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and did Richard II
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and Ralph Richardson played false staff
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on this stage in what Kenneth Tinen says
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was one of the greatest performances
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that he'd ever seen in his life in the
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theater. and Olivier
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and Peter Oul
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and Richard Burton played Hamlet
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and Judy Dench made her debut as Juliet
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in Rome and Juliet
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and you start to
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feel that wow I'm in this profession
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that
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so many have come before me so many have
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laid the foundation have
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the very thing I'm standing on
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is extraordinarily solid.
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The great thing about theater, I mean,
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versus film
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is no matter how good you might be in a
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movie or a TV show,
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you'll never be any better.
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It's frozen.
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But in the theater, I can be better
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tomorrow night than I was tonight. I can
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be better next Tuesday than I was
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tomorrow night.
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That's where you learn.
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That's where you learn.21073
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