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Hi, babe, it's me. Obviously, erm...
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spoke to your mum
when you were asleep.
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Be good to talk. Er...
Call me when you feel up to it.
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Er... Back tonight. Lots of love.
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Get your shit together.
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I'm sure it's nothing serious,
just a bad cold,
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but these days you never know,
do you? So...
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But as per our discussion,
we've got a million new menu ideas.
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So she or I will call you,
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and hopefully we can reschedule
maybe for early next week?
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Thanks a lot.
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You said you'd find things.
You said you'd research stuff.
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I said I'd do some digging,
and I have, but the reality is...
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Do you want more money?
'It's not about the money.'
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'It's always about the money.'
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I'm sorry
if I've given you false hope,
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but perhaps I should've...
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So, the firearm
detailed in the original log
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was actually an air pistol.
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Ebele's? No, a flatmate's
that she'd borrowed,
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according to her statement.
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Er, apparently, she'd been drinking
all afternoon with friends,
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and it was a "prank",
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"a spur of the moment dare
to hold up a bank".
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I thought it was a stockbrokers?
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Yeah, it was,
a company called Morgan Lavelle.
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As I say, she was very drunk.
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Why did she already
have the airgun with her
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if it was an off-the-cuff dare?
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Yep.
OK. What did she get?
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12 months bender.
Right.
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Low.
Yeah, and then at the trial,
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the doorman that she'd threatened,
a guy called, er...
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Christopher Blackwood.
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So, he ended up
backing up her version of events,
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and he said that she told him
it was a dare
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after just a few seconds
of waving the gun around,
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and that later,
he saw her mates giggling outside.
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So, why'd he call the police?
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He said he called them
before she revealed it was a prank.
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In those few seconds?
Yeah, me neither.
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OK, well, let's see if we can
speak to him, the doorman.
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I should also say that forensics
have found
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what we hope is our bullet
at the scene last night,
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so that's headed to ballistics
as we speak.
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So, we did find a bank account
for a woman
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with the same name and DOB,
and her last transaction, ever,
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was a debit card payment
to an off-licence
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on the 26th of June
at 17:43 that evening.
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Was that...
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Was that not also the same date
the social worker visited her?
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I think it was.
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Yeah, that morning.
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OK. Good. Like that.
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Er, what about her bank activity?
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Very regular, for many years.
She used her card most days.
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OK, so it stopping being like that,
then, that's significant.
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Absolutely.
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And anything interesting
in her bank statements?
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Couple of things.
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She survived mostly on benefits,
but there were also cash payments,
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deposited, I presume,
by her at pretty regular intervals.
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OK. What sorts of amounts?
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Three, four hundred quid,
give or take.
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How often?
About half a dozen times a year.
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Started in 2010,
stopped after the 26th.
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Could it have been money
from her sex work? Hm...
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A meth habit doesn't generally go
hand-in-hand with fiscal prudence.
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No.
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Er, and the other thing?
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Yeah, a standing order,
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which was only set up seven months
before she died.
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That's for £200,
to be paid on the 1st of each month.
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From? It just says "DSH"
on the statements.
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I've no idea what that means.
I'm investigating.
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OK. And her mobile?
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Couldn't find any contracts.
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If she did have a phone,
it must have been a pay-as-you-go.
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Kaz and I are looking into that.
OK, great. Thank you.
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Er, Frances.
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Yeah, so I put a flag on PNC
for Joseph Bell,
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and I actually got a ping
first thing this morning.
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He was arrested, apparently,
in Essex, yesterday.
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For?
ABH, among other things.
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No bail.
Er, he's being held on remand.
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OK. Find out where, and see if
we can speak to him, ASAP, please.
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Sure.
OK. Thanks, all.
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Where's DI Khan, Guv?
Paris.
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Interviewing the social worker.
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Back tonight.
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I don't know if you remember me,
but we met three years ago
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when you managed to get me
a work permit.
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Er, I was hoping to repay
the favour.
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I've got some goods I thought
you might be interested in.
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Some watches, premium watches.
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Er, eight, Bretq,
worth about 80K if you were to...
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Maybe half of that, maybe 40?
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Yeah, I can...
I can see you tonight.
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Erm, are you still in the same...?
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Yeah, I'll be there.
I'll see you then.
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Yes, that's Precious.
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Your client.
Yes.
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My God, what a dreadful thing.
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What a tragic waste of a life.
Yeah.
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So, was it drugs?
No.
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What, then?
We think she was murdered.
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Jesus. By who?
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Well, that's why I'm here,
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to get as much information as
possible about her last movements.
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Right.
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And what do you want to know?
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Hiya.
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If you've come for contrition,
you'll wait a long time.
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No, I don't need that.
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I just thought you might wanna know
a lawyer in London called for you.
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Wants you to call him back ASAP.
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Why does a lawyer
wanna speak to you, love?
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And how can we even afford
a London lawyer?
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Her life was chaotic,
as it often is with addicts,
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so she was hard to help.
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Was she using
when you were working with her?
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Yes.
Did she ever deal as well?
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Not to my knowledge.
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Did she ever mention any trouble
with her dealers?
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Not that she ever told me about.
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And where was she living
when you first engaged with her?
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Temporary hostels, which she kept
getting chucked out of.
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For...?
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She had issues with
her universal credit not being paid,
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she was stealing
from other residents,
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ongoing drug issues.
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And, er, did she work
in the sex trade
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at any stage that you knew her?
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She said not.
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But I know her son
wanted her to get back to it.
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I mean, he was always short of money
himself,
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so maybe he persuaded her.
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He was down in London
when you were working with her?
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On and off.
Did you actually see him?
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A couple of times, yeah,
when he was kipping on her floor.
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And what was her relationship
with him like?
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Troubled. Erm...
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He stole from her
because of his own habit.
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She also told me
that he was violent towards her.
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And what's her relationship like
with her mother?
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Pretty similar.
The trauma ran down the generations.
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Again, all fairly common
in families with addiction issues.
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And how did you try to help?
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My primary focus was to get her
stable accommodation
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and a drug rehabilitation programme.
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Did you succeed in either?
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No.
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Because...?
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Look, people like Precious,
for many complicated reasons,
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often sabotage their own help.
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So things can go wrong many times
before they go right,
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which all costs money.
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Sadly, "Let's raise taxes
and give it to addicts"
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doesn't easily fit
on the side of a bus,
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so, yes, we failed.
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Because... money.
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Erm, OK. That's the girls' father.
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He's come to pick them up.
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We're in the middle
of a custody dispute.
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What the fuck...?!
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So, she's in and out
of temporary hostels,
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and then in late June 2016,
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she asks you to come to see her
in a big house in Hammersmith?
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Yeah.
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Did she mention whose house it was,
or how come she was there?
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She said it was a squat.
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Did she mention anyone
by the name of Tony Hume?
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No.
And how was she?
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Fine.
Completely normal meeting?
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Yeah.
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She didn't mention anything about
any rows,
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or anything to do with her family,
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or anyone that made you think
that she might be in danger? No.
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Because we have reason to believe
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that Precious died very soon
after your last meeting.
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Almost certainly in that house,
in fact.
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So, is there anything that
you can tell us
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that would help us with that?
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No. Sorry.
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So, this was both the last meeting
you had with her, er...
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but also, as I understand it,
possibly the last with anyone.
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You resigned the day after.
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I don't recall the exact date.
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You resigned on...
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the 27th.
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Right.
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Are the two events connected at all?
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No.
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It just seems like
a bit of a coincidence.
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Does it?
Well...
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She's murdered, you resigned.
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But I didn't know she was dead.
Obviously.
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Hm. So, what was the reason, then?
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I didn't like the job.
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What, that job specifically,
or social work generally?
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Both.
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I was exhausted and demoralised.
We all were.
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So, just one more time, then. Er...
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Nothing happened in that house,
no arguments of any kind? No.
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No issues, disputes,
problems between the two of you,
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that you think
that we should know about?
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No.
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OK, thanks for your time.
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What are you talking about?
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I was looking after him yesterday.
Of course I'm his brief.
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Your name's not on the list.
Maybe you've been replaced.
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Replaced by who?
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And so, in conclusion,
Your Worships,
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we would like to stress again
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that our client has literally
no history of absconding,
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that he has a vulnerable partner
with multiple health issues -
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who he is deeply committed
to looking after -
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and lastly,
that we would be happy to offer
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a surety of £10,000.
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Yeah, I want to find out
about his departure
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from West London Social Services.
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To my sense, there's more there
than he's admitting to.
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OK.
And also, according to him,
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both the mother and the son
were violent towards Precious.
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'Yeah. Although he would say that
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'if he was trying to cover up
his own tracks.' Yeah.
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OK, but let's trawl through
his contemporaneous notes
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and see what they say.
'Yeah.'
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It'd be good to, erm...
maybe find half an hour...
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to sit down together and, er...
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Sorry.
What time are we at Earlmarsh?
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Three thirty.
'See you then. Bye.'
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Tony?
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Ah! Mehdi. How are you?
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Yeah, good. Listen, erm...
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I just wanted to let you know,
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I had a look at
your grant application.
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It's gonna have to be a no,
I'm afraid.
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Oh? Yeah, budgets are so squeezed,
for obvious reasons.
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We just need to prioritise
the more unique applications.
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"Unique"? What does that mean?
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Well, there wasn't a lot of detail
in there, Tony.
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You know, for a 100K grant,
it all felt a little peremptory.
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I thought we had a shorthand.
Right.
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It's getting harder for it
to keep working like that, though.
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Worked like that
when I got you into the DOT.
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When your son needed
an introduction to Warburgs.
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It worked like that then, Mehdi,
didn't it?
249
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Ah, well. There it is. Sorry again.
250
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D'you know what they call you,
Mehdi?
251
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Behind your back, your department?
252
00:15:51,860 --> 00:15:54,860
"Mehdi-ocrity". Never a truer word.
253
00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:01,860
Do you know
what they call you, Tony? Hm?
254
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Nothing.
255
00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:06,860
No-one cares.
256
00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:41,860
I'm so sorry, Joseph.
J.
257
00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:43,860
J.
258
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I ain't seen her in years, man,
so I don't give a fuck.
259
00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:48,860
Your mum?
260
00:16:49,860 --> 00:16:51,859
So, when was the last time
you saw her?
261
00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:53,859
Ten years.
262
00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:55,859
Got away from her
as soon as I could, innit?
263
00:16:55,860 --> 00:16:57,859
Bad influence.
264
00:16:57,860 --> 00:16:59,859
Because her social worker
details you living
265
00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:02,859
between London and Wales in 2016,
266
00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:04,859
and seeing your mum occasionally
during that period.
267
00:17:04,860 --> 00:17:05,860
Not true.
268
00:17:05,861 --> 00:17:09,859
Well, he also details seeing you
269
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at a hostel she was staying at,
in Acton.
270
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And also has her describing a row
between you and her,
271
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in which you got violent.
272
00:17:18,220 --> 00:17:19,859
Didn't happen.
273
00:17:19,860 --> 00:17:21,859
Must have mistaken me
for someone else.
274
00:17:21,860 --> 00:17:23,900
And as for violence,
well, my mum was chattin' shit.
275
00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:27,859
Why would she have lied?
My mum would have said anything
276
00:17:27,860 --> 00:17:30,219
if she thought it was
gonna get her something.
277
00:17:30,220 --> 00:17:32,859
Probably wanted to get into a refuge
or something.
278
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You think?
I do.
279
00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:39,859
So, did you never wonder where
she'd been the last six years?
280
00:17:39,860 --> 00:17:42,859
I assumed she'd gone to Wales.
To the farm?
281
00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:44,859
But, listen...
282
00:17:44,860 --> 00:17:46,859
if you're looking for someone
who did used to hurt her,
283
00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:48,859
then speak to David Bell.
284
00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:51,699
That don bust her up
fuckin' hundreds of times.
285
00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:52,859
This was the man who ran the cult?
286
00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:54,859
Yeah, proper nasty.
287
00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:56,859
You actually saw him
be violent towards her?
288
00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:57,860
Yeah, lots of times, man.
289
00:18:00,860 --> 00:18:02,859
I mean, she always left, but...
290
00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:05,859
then somehow, for some reason,
she always went back.
291
00:18:05,860 --> 00:18:07,859
And when you say violent...
292
00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:09,859
Physical...
293
00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:10,860
sexual...
294
00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:14,859
In here, man.
295
00:18:14,860 --> 00:18:16,700
Treated her like a dog.
296
00:18:17,860 --> 00:18:21,860
Worse than a dog, like...
like he owned her or something.
297
00:18:23,860 --> 00:18:25,860
How long were you there?
298
00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:30,059
On and off from when I was about
seven to when I was about 15.
299
00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:32,859
And what was your relationship
with him like,
300
00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:35,539
this man whose surname you shared?
301
00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:37,700
Was he ever violent towards you?
302
00:18:39,860 --> 00:18:41,860
He did everything to me, man.
303
00:18:42,860 --> 00:18:45,859
Did you ever report anything?
To who?
304
00:18:45,860 --> 00:18:47,859
We were 20 miles
from the nearest town.
305
00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:50,860
We weren't allowed mobiles,
there was no internet.
306
00:18:51,860 --> 00:18:54,859
Maybe that's why she was the way
she was with me, you know,
307
00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:56,860
cos of what he did to her.
308
00:19:00,860 --> 00:19:02,700
But, yeah...
309
00:19:03,860 --> 00:19:05,859
if you're looking for a killer...
310
00:19:05,860 --> 00:19:07,860
speak to that fucking prick.
311
00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:18,859
Hey.
312
00:19:18,860 --> 00:19:20,859
Serge just called me.
What the hell is going on, Kaz?
313
00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:22,699
Love, I'm sorting it out,
don't worry.
314
00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:23,859
'You're sorting what out?'
315
00:19:23,860 --> 00:19:25,859
He said you were being interviewed
by British police.
316
00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:28,219
It's fine. I'll call you later.
I promise you, it'll be fine.
317
00:19:28,220 --> 00:19:29,859
Karol?
318
00:19:29,860 --> 00:19:32,860
Bonjour.
Bonjour.
319
00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:39,859
'So, I'm sorry,
but not only is our obsession
320
00:19:39,860 --> 00:19:42,859
'with balancing the books
economically illiterate,
321
00:19:42,860 --> 00:19:45,859
'and not only is it morally wrong
322
00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:48,859
'to cut funding for the vulnerable,
sick and needy,
323
00:19:48,860 --> 00:19:51,859
'the absolute worst
part of austerity
324
00:19:51,860 --> 00:19:53,859
'is that it doesn't even work!
325
00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:56,859
'It turns out
we are making ourselves poorer
326
00:19:56,860 --> 00:19:58,860
'as a nation, and that...'
327
00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:16,540
So, what did you think?
His family lie very well.
328
00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:24,219
So I need to know more about him.
Anything and everything we can find.
329
00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:25,859
Guv.
Hi there.
330
00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:28,379
Just coming to pick up my client.
331
00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:29,860
He's being released on bail.
332
00:20:32,860 --> 00:20:34,220
Should all be in order.
333
00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:37,859
He had a number
of mental health issues,
334
00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:39,859
the year or so before he left.
What sort of issues?
335
00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:42,699
Er, anxiety, depression,
336
00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:44,859
a degree of agoraphobia, I think.
337
00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:47,859
Brought on by anything specific?
Yeah.
338
00:20:47,860 --> 00:20:52,219
Two assaults. One 2015, one '16.
339
00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:54,219
Er, racially-motivated assaults.
340
00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:55,859
Because he was Polish?
341
00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:57,859
Because he was Jewish.
342
00:20:57,860 --> 00:20:59,859
His nationality
was probably just a bonus.
343
00:20:59,860 --> 00:21:03,859
OK. Where did these happen?
First one, late 2015,
344
00:21:03,860 --> 00:21:06,539
just walking down the street
wearing his kippa.
345
00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:10,859
And the second one was outside
a synagogue in February 2016.
346
00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:12,859
Did he report any of these
to the police?
347
00:21:12,860 --> 00:21:15,860
The first one, yeah,
but nothing happened.
348
00:21:16,860 --> 00:21:19,859
So he didn't bother with the second.
349
00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:24,539
And you think this is what might
have precipitated his problems?
350
00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:27,859
Well, his parents moved back
to Poland for a time at that point,
351
00:21:27,860 --> 00:21:30,219
and he was living by himself.
352
00:21:30,220 --> 00:21:32,219
I just think he felt a bit isolated.
353
00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:33,860
Bit lonely.
354
00:21:35,540 --> 00:21:38,860
And you think this is what
ultimately led him to resign?
355
00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:48,859
Nothing I'm about to tell you
is anything other than rumour, OK?
356
00:21:48,860 --> 00:21:51,859
So if you want any kind of detail,
you'll have to speak to HR.
357
00:21:51,860 --> 00:21:53,059
OK.
358
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,859
And I qualify all of this
with the fact that the Karol I met
359
00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:57,859
when he first came here
was a lovely,
360
00:21:57,860 --> 00:21:59,860
kind, respectful, gentle man.
361
00:22:02,060 --> 00:22:03,859
There was a rumour that he left
362
00:22:03,860 --> 00:22:06,899
because of some inappropriate photos
he took of a colleague.
363
00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:08,860
On a stairwell.
364
00:22:09,860 --> 00:22:11,860
Up-skirting?
365
00:22:13,860 --> 00:22:14,860
Up-skirting.
366
00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:20,859
We're just looking for more
background information on him,
367
00:22:20,860 --> 00:22:24,060
and we have you down
as his probation officer, so...
368
00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:26,860
Yeah.
369
00:22:26,861 --> 00:22:28,859
Yeah, ten o'clock tomorrow,
that'd be perfect.
370
00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:31,860
I'll send a Zoom link.
OK, thanks, bye.
371
00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:35,859
Hey, Guv.
Yep.
372
00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:37,899
Got the result of the C&C trawl
on 64 Waterman Road,
373
00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:40,539
but we can do it tomorrow
if it's too late now.
374
00:22:40,540 --> 00:22:41,859
No, no, no. Go for it, go for it.
375
00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,859
So, there's one incident
in our timeframe.
376
00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:45,219
It was on the 14th of June.
377
00:22:45,220 --> 00:22:48,859
The call to the local nick
from a resident of 23 Waterman
378
00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:52,859
about a "violent row"
outside 64 between two women.
379
00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:55,859
The neighbour describes hearing
one woman tell the other to,
380
00:22:55,860 --> 00:22:56,860
"Fuck off, Mum."
381
00:22:56,861 --> 00:22:58,860
So...
382
00:22:59,860 --> 00:23:03,859
just 12 days
before Precious's possible death,
383
00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:05,859
and despite Ebele telling us
384
00:23:05,860 --> 00:23:09,859
she hadn't seen her
since her birthday on January 15th,
385
00:23:09,860 --> 00:23:12,219
here is Ebele in contact with her.
386
00:23:12,220 --> 00:23:13,699
Did a car get up there?
387
00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:14,859
It did,
but it had quietened down by then,
388
00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:16,860
so no further action was taken.
389
00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:19,860
So...
390
00:23:20,860 --> 00:23:24,859
We have her shoplifting arrest
on the 5th,
391
00:23:24,860 --> 00:23:27,059
where she gave
the Waterman Road address.
392
00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:30,859
And then this incident
on the... 14th?
393
00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:32,219
Yep.
394
00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:36,219
And then the social worker's visit
on the 26th.
395
00:23:36,220 --> 00:23:39,859
So that's nearly three weeks where
she's living there in some capacity,
396
00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:43,380
despite the house having been made
secure at least a month previously.
397
00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:47,859
So, how did she get in and out?
398
00:23:47,860 --> 00:23:49,859
Had she broken in?
399
00:23:49,860 --> 00:23:53,860
Stolen a set of keys?
400
00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:58,859
OK, see if you can track down
the attending officers.
401
00:23:58,860 --> 00:24:01,860
Thanks, Murray. It's great work.
Guv.
402
00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:05,860
We're just trying to get
403
00:24:05,861 --> 00:24:08,859
as much background on Joseph Bell
as possible,
404
00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:09,860
so I'll send you the link
405
00:24:09,861 --> 00:24:11,859
and look forward
to speaking to you then.
406
00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:14,860
'OK, thanks.'
OK. Bye now.
407
00:24:25,860 --> 00:24:29,860
And I'm not remotely...
pissed off with you.
408
00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:32,859
How could I be?
409
00:24:32,860 --> 00:24:35,860
You've never been anything other
than completely honest about kids.
410
00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:40,860
Sorry.
411
00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:45,859
So there's no blame.
412
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:47,860
About that, anyway.
413
00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:51,860
But that doesn't stop me
from feeling sad.
414
00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:55,859
Very sad, in fact.
415
00:24:55,860 --> 00:24:57,379
Sorry.
416
00:24:57,380 --> 00:25:00,860
Obviously, you've got nothing
to apologise for.
417
00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:05,860
When you say,
"No blame about that anyway"...
418
00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:09,860
Well, maybe you're not to blame
for that either, because...
419
00:25:10,860 --> 00:25:12,860
Y'know, that's grief, isn't it?
420
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:17,859
And I should say
I slightly feel like
421
00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:20,899
I'm not allowed to find it hard,
or complain about it,
422
00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:23,859
or anything, really.
423
00:25:23,860 --> 00:25:24,860
But it is hard, Sunny.
424
00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:29,860
To feel so... excluded.
425
00:25:31,860 --> 00:25:33,860
So shut out.
426
00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:39,860
And it's hard to feel jealous
of a dead woman.
427
00:25:41,860 --> 00:25:44,860
But I do.
428
00:25:49,860 --> 00:25:53,859
Because, huh, here we are,
nine months on,
429
00:25:53,860 --> 00:25:55,899
with no hint of a wedding in sight.
430
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:57,860
No discussions, even.
431
00:25:58,860 --> 00:26:01,059
And I keep thinking
you'll bring it up,
432
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,860
cos I'm sure as hell not going to.
433
00:26:03,860 --> 00:26:05,859
But you don't.
434
00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:06,899
And even as I'm saying this,
435
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:09,859
I'm slightly hoping that
you'll jump in and say,
436
00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:13,860
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
It's all OK. Let's set a date."
437
00:26:15,860 --> 00:26:16,860
But you don't.
438
00:26:18,860 --> 00:26:20,860
And I'm scared I know why...
439
00:26:31,860 --> 00:26:33,860
Take it.
No.
440
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:37,860
Take it, it's fine.
441
00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:44,860
Give me ten seconds.
442
00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:47,860
Fran.
443
00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:06,860
Hey. How you doing?
Yeah...
444
00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:11,859
Er, hang on.
I'm east, boss man. The docks.
445
00:27:11,860 --> 00:27:12,860
We just need to go over
some paperwork.
446
00:27:12,861 --> 00:27:15,219
Nah, nah. I need to get back
to my girlfriend, bruv.
447
00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:17,059
That's the only fucking reason
I called him.
448
00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:21,860
It'll take half an hour, I promise,
and then I'll get you a car home.
449
00:27:33,380 --> 00:27:36,859
For what it's worth,
it was just once.
450
00:27:36,860 --> 00:27:39,859
And I know nothing I can say will...
451
00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:43,859
ever allow you to forgive me
for that, nor should it,
452
00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:46,380
but I am more sorry
than I'll ever be able to say.
453
00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:52,860
My fucking sister.
454
00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:55,860
Literally.
455
00:27:56,860 --> 00:27:58,860
Do you wanna tell me why?
456
00:28:00,860 --> 00:28:01,860
I was lonely.
457
00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:05,860
He said he was, too,
and that you and he were finished.
458
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:09,859
When was this?
459
00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:11,859
Three months ago.
460
00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:13,859
You were on a course.
461
00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:16,860
I'd babysat the kids.
It was in our house?!
462
00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:20,859
I'm so sorry.
463
00:28:20,860 --> 00:28:22,859
Just...
464
00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:25,860
Go. Just leave. Please.
465
00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:34,859
D'you know what, Debbie?
466
00:28:34,860 --> 00:28:36,860
If you weren't such a weak...
467
00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:40,859
person, if you had...
468
00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:44,860
even an ounce of backbone,
you wouldn't have told me.
469
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:49,860
You'd have kept your shame
to yourself.
470
00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,060
Hey.
471
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:40,860
I'm really sorry, I'm on a pick-up
down in Fontainebleau.
472
00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:45,860
Thanks for the heads up, though.
Appreciate it, brother. Speak soon.
473
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:16,539
'Veuillez laisser
un message apres le bip.'
474
00:30:16,540 --> 00:30:17,859
Hey, it's me.
475
00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:20,859
Listen, I'm gonna come back,
see if I can get this sorted out.
476
00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:23,900
I'll be about half an hour.
Call me to let me know you got this.
477
00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:48,860
Please.
478
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:01,860
Joseph.
479
00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:13,860
Tony Hume.
480
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,859
Why have you brought me here, man?
481
00:31:18,860 --> 00:31:20,860
That wasn't the deal. Why am I here?
482
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:24,900
Please. Sit down.
483
00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:53,859
Shit!
484
00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:56,860
So, all I want to know,
really, Joseph is...
485
00:31:58,860 --> 00:31:59,860
what you meant.
486
00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:03,859
What I said.
OK.
487
00:32:03,860 --> 00:32:07,859
And what you said, as I recall,
488
00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:11,859
is that your mother
was Precious Falade,
489
00:32:11,860 --> 00:32:13,859
and you were there that night.
490
00:32:13,860 --> 00:32:16,700
You saw it all.
Yeah.
491
00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:18,860
You were where?
492
00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:29,859
A don like you must be so used to
being able to control things, innit?
493
00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:30,860
Being able to influence
494
00:32:30,861 --> 00:32:33,860
and manipulate everything
around you, yeah?
495
00:32:35,860 --> 00:32:38,859
Whereas me...
496
00:32:38,860 --> 00:32:40,859
I've had almost no control
in my life.
497
00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:42,860
Almost no power, innit?
498
00:32:46,860 --> 00:32:50,859
I've had to take whatever life
threw at me, bruv.
499
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:52,859
Had to learn how to adapt.
500
00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:55,860
Very fucking fast,
often to the next random event.
501
00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:59,859
And it's funny,
cos I've been so scared of you
502
00:32:59,860 --> 00:33:01,860
since that
very fucking random night.
503
00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:05,860
So scared of what you could do to me
if I told people what I knew.
504
00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:10,859
Except now
I'm in the room with you...
505
00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:12,860
and I see it's you who's scared.
506
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:15,859
I don't blame you, as it goes.
507
00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:18,860
Cos you got a lot to lose, man.
508
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:21,700
Who are you really, Joseph?
509
00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:24,860
What do you want?
Who am I?
510
00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:27,859
I'm me, man.
511
00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:29,859
And what I want...
512
00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:32,700
is this.
513
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Oh!
514
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,760
Kids, bedtime.
Come on. Brush your teeth.
515
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760
Did you forget
I was going out tonight?
516
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,280
Shit, erm...
517
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,560
I'm sorry, yeah. Yeah.
518
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,559
Pyjamas are on the bed.
You're all good to go.
519
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,560
OK, thanks. Thanks.
520
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,240
Are you OK?
521
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,400
She hasn't told you, has she?
Who?
522
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,079
Debbie.
523
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Told me what?
524
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,559
Gran, we're ready!
525
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,559
Grab a glass of wine.
I'll be back down in ten.
526
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
I'll shift my plans for tonight.
527
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Thanks, Mum.
528
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,560
I'm back for a bit now,
so you're all right, Jordan.
529
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,760
Safe.
530
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,560
I missed you.
531
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,560
I missed you too.
532
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,559
I just needed someone
to look after me.
533
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,560
I know, but like I said,
I'm here now, babe.
534
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,560
Yeah.
535
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,560
I can't forgive her, Mum.
536
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,559
We can't forgive her for this.
You do understand that, don't you?
537
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,239
Your sister's not well, Jess.
You know that.
538
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:40,559
Please. You can't always excuse
her behaviour
539
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,080
because of anxiety or depression.
540
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,560
I'm anxious.
541
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
I'm depressed.
I don't go round behaving like that.
542
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,080
I don't think
I ever want to speak to her again.
543
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,560
And I don't think
you should want to either.
544
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,600
No DCI James?
Sorry.
545
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,559
'We tried to give her
all the support we could.
546
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,559
'When Joseph was about
18 months old,
547
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,559
'it was clear
she wasn't caring for him properly,
548
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,559
'and he was taken in to care.'
549
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,559
'He'd often came in to nursery
550
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,079
'hungry, in dirty clothes,
often soiled.'
551
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,559
She'd have punters
coming in her house all day long.
552
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,599
I'd see him through the window,
553
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,559
sitting in front of the TV all day,
on his own.
554
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,559
I mean, I did phone social services
several times,
555
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,239
but I'm not sure
if anyone ever came.
556
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,559
' "Oh, Miss, I fell."
557
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,559
' "Oh, Miss, a friend accidentally
kicked me playing football."
558
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,559
' "Oh, Miss,
I spilt a cup of tea on it." '
559
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,559
When Joseph arrived late at night,
gone ten, on his own,
560
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,559
in the back of a taxi
561
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,399
because cuts had meant there was
no social worker to accompany him,
562
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,560
he was 13 years old.
563
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,559
I showed him his room,
and he couldn't believe it
564
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,559
because it was clean
and the bed had a duvet on it.
565
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,559
He stayed with us for nine months,
and we applied for adoption...
566
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,560
er, but his mother blocked it
567
00:38:29,561 --> 00:38:31,559
and eventually got him back
in the end.
568
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,600
Mainly for the child benefit,
I suspect.
569
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,559
It was one of the saddest days
of my life, having to let him go.
570
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,559
'Young Mr Bell was 17
when he arrived with us,
571
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,559
'but old for his years, y'know?
572
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,559
'Wily. Devious, even.
573
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,399
'Never reluctant to use violence
to get what he wanted.
574
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,559
'Could he kill?'
575
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,560
'I've no doubt.'
576
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,559
DCI James?
DI Khan. Sorry, hello.
577
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,559
What happened? Where were you?
Where was I?
578
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,559
The Zoom calls about Joseph Bell.
579
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Damn it.
580
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,239
I, erm... had some, erm...
581
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:22,559
Look, I'm...
I'm really... I'm really sorry.
582
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,559
Can we just, erm...
duck in here for a moment?
583
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,920
Yeah.
584
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,560
I can't work like this.
585
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:56,559
Next to you but not with you.
586
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,559
I sat in this room earlier
587
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,559
and listened to various people
talking about Joseph Bell,
588
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,559
and it was illuminating
and heart-breaking,
589
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,560
and it gave me...
590
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,559
all sorts of insights
and new ideas,
591
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,559
and you-you missed it all.
592
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,559
Now, I've recorded it,
and I'll send you the links,
593
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,559
but it's not the same thing, is it?
594
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,559
Because we need to be in the room
together.
595
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,239
We need to talk.
596
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,559
In your office,
in the canteen, the pub.
597
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,559
We need to come up with
a thousand stupid theories
598
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,559
and laugh at them
and come up with better ones.
599
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,559
Because it's only by doing that,
surely,
600
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,560
that we'll get to understand
the people sitting opposite us.
601
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,559
I can't be her, DI Khan.
602
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,560
I'm not asking you to be.
603
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,559
All I'm saying is,
there's a barrier between us,
604
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,559
and I would love it
605
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,559
if we could find a way
of getting rid of it,
606
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,560
even if it's just for this case
and then we go our separate ways.
607
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,559
And maybe it is my fault.
608
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,559
Apologies if it is.
609
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,560
I'm dealing with some
personal issues that, er...
610
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,559
Well, I'm not exactly
at the top of my game,
611
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,079
but I would love it
if we could reset.
612
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,559
If we could just start again.
613
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,600
Please.
What issues?
614
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Yesterday... my fiancee...
615
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,560
had a miscarriage of a baby
I didn't really want.
616
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,559
I am so sorry.
617
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,080
Thanks.
Yeah, it was very early, but still.
618
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,080
It's complicated.
619
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,560
54 minutes before I started
the job last week, my...
620
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,559
Excuse me.
621
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,240
My husband, erm...
622
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,560
my husband told me he'd been...
623
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,760
he'd been having an affair.
624
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,560
And, er...
625
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,560
Last night...
626
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Last night, I discovered
it was with my sister.
627
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,560
OK, you win.
628
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,559
Oh...
629
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,759
I'm really sorry, too.
630
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,240
I mean, that's... that's awful.
631
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,559
Is there anything I can do?
Er, thanks.
632
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,559
Er, probably not.
633
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,239
But, erm... thank you.
634
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:01,080
And, er...
635
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Er, we've...
636
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,560
got a result on the bullet.
637
00:43:08,561 --> 00:43:10,559
What result?
638
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,559
It has the same striation marks
as a bullet fired
639
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,559
in a 2015 robbery in Lisson Grove.
640
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,559
The gun was never recovered,
641
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,559
but an arrest was made
of an Elton Paul King,
642
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,559
a known associate
643
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,560
and fellow gang member
of one Joseph Bell.
644
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,559
Call Earlmarsh,
645
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,759
see if we can organise
another interview.
646
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,559
Do we know where this Mr King was
at the time of Precious's murder?
647
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,559
Yeah, Winterstoke, six months
into a ten stretch for the robbery.
648
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,559
He was released on parole last year.
649
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,560
OK, well, let's see if we can
speak to him ASAP, please. Mm-hm.
650
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,559
So, er... So, yeah.
651
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,559
Just... Just so you know,
this is not remotely...
652
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,559
who I am or how I work.
653
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,559
You know, this last week or so,
it's not, erm...
654
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,919
So, you know, I'm...
655
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,559
I'm sorry.
656
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,559
And, er, of course...
of course we need to talk.
657
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,559
So send me the Zooms, please.
I really want to see them.
658
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,559
And then, erm...
659
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Yeah, let's...
660
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,560
let's reset.
661
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,759
As per my email,
662
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,560
if I were to decide
to bring things forward...
663
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,760
how much notice would you need?
664
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
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