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A very good morning and welcome to all
the listeners, lovers and learners to
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NPTEL course entitled Indian Poetry in
English.
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You will be listening to the lectures by
Vinod Mishra.
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But before I start the first lecture,
let me share with you some facts as to
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why should we read or learn poetry.
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Most of you might be thinking, as to why
this quote on poetry.
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Dear friends, as human beings, most of
us
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actually crave for delight and then also
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for happiness.
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Happiness, which has always been, if we
have to quote Thomas Hardy,
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the famous English novelist, who says,
happiness, was but an
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occasional episode in the general drama
of pain.
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But my dear friends, yet all of us try
to extract pleasure,
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joy, delight in different ways.
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And most of you will agree with me that
the changing situations and
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circumstances in life have actually
prepared us to such a situation.
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way to think of delight is of course at
times a puzzle.
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And then you can come out of this puzzle
by opening a world
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of delight through the pages of poetry,
my dear friends.
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It is in order to neutralize the
complexities of human life that poetry
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to stay, my dear friends.
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Since poetry comprises not only Joy. It
also comprises pain.
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It comprises rest, unrest.
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It actually records all our lived and
unlived experiences of life.
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That is why the quote entitled Indian
Poetry in English
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will become very relevant. And of
course, in a corporate world of today,
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when as human beings, We get tired.
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We find there are no ways out.
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We find that we are in an age of
anxiety, in an age of trouble, in an age
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we do not see the light.
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Of course, we need to explore this
delight in the form of light
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through the world of poetry.
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And why Indian poetry?
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Because all of us, being Indian, we
actually feel the need.
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to understand and explore the joys
through our Indian culture, through our
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Indian writings, through the sayings of
our sages, through our mythological
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heroes, through the legacies that we
have. And we have really been proud to
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all these, not only in our own country,
but in the world.
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So, my dear friends, that is actually
why the need to have a course entitled
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Indian poetry in English.
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Now most of you might be thinking
especially those who are new to
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the world of poetry might be thinking
what actually is poetry?
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Can poetry be defined?
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What can be the nature and scope of
poetry? So first we shall try our level
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to understand poetry and then we shall
slowly come to Indian poetry.
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There can be any number of definitions
about poetry but one that actually
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I like very much is by a famous
theologian and a philosopher named
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Saint Augustine who says, if not asked I
know,
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if you ask me I know not.
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My dear friend, poetry is such a
phenomena that it is very difficult to
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Though most of the poets and many
critics as well, they have defined
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Many of you might be familiar with
Wordsworth calling poetry as a
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overflow of powerful feelings
recollected in tranquility.
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If we go by what Coleridge says,
Coleridge has a different view.
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And Coleridge would say, That poetry is
the best word in the best order.
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Later on Coleridge would also say,
poetry is the antithesis of science.
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Since we are doing with and dealing with
Indian poetry, I thought it cannot
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be anything better if we quote what an
Indian critique and what an exponent of
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Indian writing in English writes about
poetry.
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What he says is quite relevant.
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The true poetic word thus strives to
catch the inward eye.
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Look at the words.
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Inward eye.
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To reach the inward ear from the inward
eye that you see
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and to reach the inward ear because the
moment we talk of poetry, sometimes
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or the other you start having a feeling
of some pleasantry in your ears.
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and to sink into the deeper profundities
of the awakening or awakened soul.
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The real aim of the art, architecture,
sculpture, painting, music,
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poetry is to speak the spirit of man
through meaningful images and only the
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media vary in their different arts, the
poets being the word that is charged
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with power and purpose.
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Most people are content to live in the
outer mind and senses.
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I think here lies the difference which
many people would feel when they talk
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about distinguishing poetry from other
forms of art and even also from science.
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But the aim of art and especially poetry
is to help us live in the soul.
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I mean when we talk about poetry
naturally majority of us Start thinking
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should have something special.
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Not only something that can appeal to
the eye and the ear.
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But something that can generate feelings
in our heart. That is why when you look
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at a beautiful flower.
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When you look at a beautiful sight.
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When you look at a beautiful object.
When you look at a beautiful scenery.
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Think of it.
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What sort of reaction is there in your
heart?
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How thoroughly you feel yourself
transported to a different world, the
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of reality but maybe the world of
imagination.
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To enable us to see into the utter truth
of things and the poet has to find the
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words and the rhythm that would achieve
this aim.
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So this in a way tells us that poetry
will somehow be different.
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And the poet will be the magician of
words.
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He will throw some words and those words
will enlighten you and transport you
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to a world of delight, my dear friend.
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Most of you would like to know, how did
this word poetry come into being?
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Our ancient Greek philosophers say, or
what they talk about the origin of
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as, the ancient Greek word poie, that
actually means to create.
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And the Latin poem, that is to compose
something in words, meaning thereby
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something which could have a melody,
something which could have a sort of
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Because when we talk about poetry,
naturally something that comes to our
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since we have been talking about
imagination being an important
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poetry. Why the other day when you
looked at the rainbow, suddenly you were
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transported into a different realm?
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Why you like others, those people who
really feel that it is only a scientific
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process, why did you simply look at it
and say it is a rainbow? Because it had
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different sort of echoes that you felt
within.
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So when we talk about or when we try to
differentiate poetry,
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adverse science, we find that both
poetry and science may deal with the
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phenomena, but may have different
approaches.
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Science will deal with the application
of knowledge.
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Science will deal with a sort of system,
whereas poetry will somehow be
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different. Science will look at the
objectivity of things.
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Science will look at a sort of
detachment, whereas poetry will be
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It will suggest, isn't it? Most of the
poems that you might have read, you will
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find that there is a sort of
subjectivity in it. Fine.
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It is not technical for the sake of are
saying technicalities maybe when we talk
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about the form when you talk about the
style when you talk about the metrical
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compositions and all we can say that
these are the technicalities but these
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technicalities finally lead us to a
world of delight where we feel a sort of
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musicality and this music actually
enthralls poetry will actually touch
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upon because it is a world which
recreates your emotion the emotion
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that is created generated and a poet
will recreate those emotion into a
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different sort of feeling into a
different sort of experience and then
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emotive language that is why i mean
there can be n number of lectures on the
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language of poetry itself but to say it
briefly it will touch upon the sensation
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isn't it And in a way, it is related to
a human soul, the feelings that are
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generated. The language at times may be
scientific, but at times the language
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may be unscientific. When you create
something which you call beautiful,
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the reactions to it will be different.
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Say, for example, here you find the
picture of a flower.
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Fine. When a poet will look at it, the
poet will say, it is the lady of the
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garden. It is a flower of delight, of
light, isn't it? But when a
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scientist will say, and the scientist
will have a different sort of nomination
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for it, they can go for exploring its
botanical name, which can
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be Hexendria monogemia.
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Hexendria monogemia. Fine.
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But now, when you talk about...
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this flower and you want to deal with it
in a poetic way,
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you will find that you actually want to
see it in a sort of comprehensive
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reality, beauty in totality.
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I mean, what sort of sense does it
evoke? What sort of feeling? Suddenly
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look at a flower and you are actually
transported to a different world, to
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other beautiful object.
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Maybe many poets have always, you know,
compared the faces of their beloveds to
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roses. No.
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My love is like a red, red rose.
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No. Sometimes they will, and you know,
with the help of their symbols, with the
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help of metaphors, with the help of
several literary devices, they can.
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They are talking of something else, but
they are referring to something else.
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That is how poetry differs.
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From science, my dear friend, because
poetic truth will completely be
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from scientific truth.
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And it is in this regard that we can say
poetry begins where matter of
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fact or of science ceases to be merely
such.
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Lee Hunt, a famous English poet and
critic, who says that poetry begins
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matter of fact or of science ceases to
be merely such.
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And to exhibit a further truth, the
connection it has with the world of
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and its power to produce imaginative
pleasure.
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That is why on a morning or an evening
when you are passing
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by, when you are crossing by the seaside
and you look at the waves
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and suddenly there are different
emotions that are evoked.
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Fine? Maybe The scientist will say, it
is quite, no?
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Yes, since it is sea, there can be
waves.
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But a poet will say, these are the
waves, like the waves in my soul.
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Here I can see my anxieties. Here I can
see the ups and downs. Here I can see
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the sensations of life.
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My dear friends, a poet will always and
of necessity deal
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largely with such aspects of things as
which will appeal directly
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to the senses and the feelings. That is
why those many of you who read
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poetry and enjoy poetry will find that
whenever you are reading a piece of
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poetry, you are not confined only to one
meaning.
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You are not confined only to one
reaction.
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There can be several interpretations of
one poem.
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which you cannot find in something that
is scientific.
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There is nothing to prevent him, no one
can prevent a poet from penetrating
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beneath their surface or from taking as
his subject matter those more
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recondite truths rather, hidden truths.
Can you really think when
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you look at a rose and its petals?
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And when the petals are being broken, my
dear friend, not like the scientists
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you want to see from where the fragrance
comes, but you actually want to see the
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beauty of the rose in its totality. But
still, you want to find some hidden
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truths, truths of nature, which are
revealed by science. There are a number
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points which are actually inspired by
nature. And, you know, the truth that
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have found those truths.
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are going to be permanent, those truths
are going to be relevant in all those
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times. Fine? That is why most of the
time you might be reminded of what
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in one of the poems entitled Rainbow.
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The veteran romantic poet says, my heart
lifts up when I behold a rainbow in the
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sky. So was it when my life began.
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So is it now I am a man.
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So be it when I shall grow old.
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or let me die.
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The child is the father of the man.
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And I could with my days to be bound
each to each by natural piety.
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My dear friends, and then he actually
relates it to human life. That how, no?
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So was it when I was a child, so it
shall be when I shall grow old, and so
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shall be when I shall die.
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The child is the father of the man.
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Fine. So actually he talks about human
nature and also talks about the nature
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that is real, the nature that is, I
mean, the nature in which, around which
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live. And, you know, poets taking the
background of nature and other natural
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objects have actually talked about so
many things which perhaps scientists
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cannot think of because science believes
in truth.
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It believes in the practicality of
knowledge. It believes in wisdom.
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Now, what is actually the function of
poetry?
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Do we really need poetry?
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Do we really need art?
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There can be n number of questions as to
if poetry is art like other forms of
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art, should there be art for art's sake
or art for life's sake?
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I mean, this is actually a debatable
question.
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It can be a debatable essay.
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But my dear friend, when you look at an
object with an artistic bent of mind,
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and if you simply get yourself involved
it in being simply an art, perhaps you
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will be ignoring the other realities. As
I said in the beginning, that the
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realities of life are changing.
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Human lives are changing. And so we
also, and of course, as we read and as
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we explore poetry in all edges, be it
from any nation, you will find the
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is changing. Not only in terms of its
content, not only in terms of its form,
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not only in terms of its interpretation,
but here it is quite important to
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mention what Wallace Stevens said about
poetry. What he says was, poetry was
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one of the enlargements of life.
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Oscar Wilde, marvelous critic and
dramatist, who himself was a weak poet,
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remarked that all art was perfectly
useless and irony we need not
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When you talk of poetry in general
conversations and all, many people may
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fine, because those people who believe
that poetry is simply a pastime affair
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it is only a wastage of time. But then
Wilde knew better than almost all of us.
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that Shakespeare, Michelangelo, and
Bajart are superbly useful.
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Had it not been so, my dear friends,
despite the progress and the development
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that we have so far made, poetry still
continues.
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Poetry writing is still in a continuing
process.
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It has not come to an end.
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They give the more difficult pleasures
that can persuade us to abandon
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that are too easy.
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The pleasure that we derive, the
satisfaction that we derive out of
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fine, is not instant, my dear friends.
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It actually, these pleasures are not
easily available as other pleasures are
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adopt Sully's formulation of the sublime
mode.
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This has been quoted from Harold Bloom.
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Now, do we really or should we really
consider the poet as a powerful being?
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What is actually the use of a poet?
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I mean, you might be aware that there
have been people who have criticized
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poetry. There have been critics who have
actually stopped poets.
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Fine, you might know well.
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But then, does the poet have some power?
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Yes, of course.
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If we go by what Sri Aurobindo says in
Future of Poetry, vision
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is the characteristic of the poet.
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I mean, a poet can have a reason, and
I'll give you certain examples
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as to how, when one of the Indian poets,
you know, one of the Indian poets,
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more than 100 years before, wrote
actually a book, a
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journal, it was actually by Kailash
Chandra Dutta, who wrote a journal of
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48 hours.
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in 1945.
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And my dear friends, here he actually,
here the poet made use of his emotions
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and his imagination rather.
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And you will find in 1947, India got
independence.
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You will be surprised to know that how
could this poet might have a vision of
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1945 and that also 100 years before.
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So that is actually the power of a poet.
So vision I was talking about. Vision
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is the characteristic power of the poet
as is discriminated thought the
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essential gift of the philosopher and
analytic observation the natural genius
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the scientist.
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The Kabhi, I mean that is the Hindi word
for poet.
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The Kabhi was in the idea of the
ancients, the seer and the revealer of
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Those... who are passionate lovers of
poetry might have found how the poet
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actually looks more and looks rather
further than what is not possible.
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That is why they have been called
reasonaries. Fine? And there are certain
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you will find not only in English but
also in Indian English poetry where you
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can find what the poet said some years
before.
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could happen so is it not the reason
therefore the greatest poets have been
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always those who have had a large and
powerful interpretive and intuitive
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intuitive vision don't you remember my
dear friends when sally uh wrote that
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poem uh sally's sally's famous poem owed
to the west wind
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fine and there when he talks about the
difficulties on his own of his own
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life Where he says, oh, make me a liar.
What if my leaves are falling like the
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forest? But many people might consider
and rather think that Sally was a
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pessimist. But towards the end, you see,
what sort of vision did he give when he
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says, can spring, if winter comes, can
spring
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be far behind?
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See the optimistic note.
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So therefore the greatest poets have
been always those who have had a large
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powerful interpretive and intuitive
vision of nature and life and the man
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whose poetry has origin out of that in a
supreme revelatory utterance of it my
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dear friend. You remember what when
Wordsworth says child is the father of
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man. You see.
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It is not a simple statement.
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It is not a simple utterance rather. It
actually talks volumes about how the
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influences that we have in our childhood
continues till long.
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So, can there be anything better than a
reason which Wordsworth has given
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in a very short poem? And you will find
there are endless poems like
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this. And a good number of poets have
been practicing their art where they
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been talking about their vision. My dear
friends, since we are talking about
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Indian poetry in English, we should also
rather try to discuss
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where are the ancient roots of our
literature. Did Indian
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poetry in English or for that matter,
even before Indian literature in
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My dear friends, as Aurobindo mentions,
the Vedic poets regarded their poetry as
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mantras. Now, when you talk about the
artificial, the element of artificiality
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in poetry, can you also think of Indian
literature where our Vedic poets
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regarded their poetry as mantras? They
were the vehicles of their own
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realization and could have become
vehicles of realization for others.
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Even today we find the Vedas are one of
the greatest relations that mankind
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has. And not only in India, my dear
friend, but all over the world, all our
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ancient literature, say for example, the
Ramayana, the Mahavarata, the Gita, and
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the lines which are there, they are
still true. They are still becoming the
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eye -openers.
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not only to a people of one country, but
also to the people of other countries,
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my dear friends.
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Now, when we talk about Indian English
literature, because we have named
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this course as Indian Poetry in English,
did we really have English even before?
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No, my dear friends.
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All of our English influences came
through foreign people.
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Especially you know. Through Basco de
Gama. Portuguese and Dutch. There were
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several invasions in our country. If you
might have read. From the pages of the
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history. And still in India. When the
East India Company came.
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This East India Company.
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Historically you know.
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Actually they had come as merchants. But
they became rulers.
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And later on we could find.
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That. In order to have people who could
work for them, they actually wanted
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the people of this country to have the
knowledge of English.
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So the English education which came to
India and especially which was
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given to us by none other than these
Britishers, they actually felt the need
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because they also wanted people who
could work for them.
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And we will see when we come across
Macaulay's minutes that they wanted a
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of people, class of people who could
help them govern millions of
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people. And who should these people be?
These people should actually be Indian
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in blood and color, but English in
taste, in morals.
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and in opinion.
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That is what Macaulay says in his
minutes.
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And we find that with this, because in
the beginning there were several
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oppositions as to why we should have
English, but it was actually the need of
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the hour.
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And that is why after the disintegration
of Mughal Empire, these Britishers
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These actually, since they wanted to
rule over for a longer time and they
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rule only because of English.
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So when we find that English came to
India through East India Company,
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of course, many of the historians and
others find that it was actually a
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shock for many people. But then this
shock had its own advantage, my dear
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friend. We'll see later. Now, why did we
need English?
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And what did Indian English literature
mean to us? How did it help?
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Because we are living under the rule of
the East India Company and the country
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was not united.
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And these people wanted to rule over our
country with the help of the select
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group of people who could, to quote the
words of Macaulay, who could be Indians
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in blood and color, but English.
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In taste, in morals and in opinion.
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So, but then how did it help?
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This actually gave the voice to the
voiceless in the struggle for social
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justice. You cannot suppress a country
or a people for a long time even with
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help of only language, my dear friend.
Of course, language is a great weapon to
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control. But for that, you needed people
who could speak your language, isn't
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it? But initially, Indians who were
writing, they were writing in their own
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language. But in order to survive, they
wanted a language which was alien
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though, but which was friendly in order
to carry out their own objectives.
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English worked as an elixir to the uns
caused by the social chaos. There was a
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great division in the society.
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And these people who were considered
baboos, fine, they were considered to be
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elite class.
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fine among the common people common
masses but then with their knowledge of
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english sometimes so the other you know
since i said you cannot control or you
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cannot suppress a country for a long
time these people also might have
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that it is their own soil it is their
own mati to say because it
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started in bengal and you know till that
time even indian women
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who did not have, because our tradition
had, if some certain good qualities,
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there were some lapses also, and for
that, we actually needed to have a sort
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education that was not only moderate,
but that was forward -looking.
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And in this regard, English did a human
service, my dear friend. It also helped
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discover a sense of identity and...
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stability identity and stability my
different and indians got a sense of
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belonging with the health of english now
they could know because majority of the
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people started learning english since
the schools were also started you know
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when english schools were started and
when hindu college was started in
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one of the directors of the east india
company had said
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we actually had created a folly and had
lost America because of the
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establishment of schools there and we
are going to repeat the same folly and
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dear friend it has really become true
they started English education and it
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only a group of english educated people
most of them britishers who founded some
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of these schools and colleges and the
hindu college was the first to come into
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existence and with the hindu college
coming to existence now english
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started and it also started creating
among indians a sense and a
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sort of you know a sort of realization
that they can have their own identity my
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different What were actually the
repercussions? And the repercussions was
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wanted that their country should be free
from the clutches of a foreign rule.
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And for that, if you are a student of
history, you might realize how
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several revolutions, because the
Britishers came to colonize India, but
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colonizing India, they civilized India.
They civilized India in the sense that
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they gave Indians a sort of language a
weapon of language through which they
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became more conscious and then there was
birth of nationalism there from time to
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time came to be some collision between
Indian religion and the colonial
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education because many people were
against this colonial education there
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some poets even and there were some
novelists who while writing They often,
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especially to quote Bankim Chandra who
said, why is India a subject country?
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Who will praise our noble qualities if
we do not praise them ourselves?
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And they wanted to praise their own
country. So even when Bankim Chandra
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his own work, even though he was writing
in Bengali, but a new consciousness
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was created in their mind.
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of people and you will find that many
indians they started writing in english
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so in a way something that was actually
a sort of imposition
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that actually become a compulsion and it
stirred the minds of millions and they
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thought they could write uh they could
write even though with the help of
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english language they could actually
bring the indian problems to the masses
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to the world my dear friend and this
happened you will realize when we
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Michael Madhusudan Dutt and others how
they started writing in English of
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they initially were writers who were
writing in their own mother tongue and
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only Michael Madhusudan Dutt but in
other parts of the country many people
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writing in their own language but they
realized That the need of the hour was
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propagate the Indian problem and in a
language that the world could know. And
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that really worked a miracle, my dear
friend.
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Now, when we talk about the history of
English literature, as I said, my dear
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friend, in the beginning, there were
several views about Indian English
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literature. Some of them started calling
it an Indo -Anglian literature.
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Some started calling it Indian writing
in English. And then some started
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Indo -English literature.
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Now, all these terms had actually some
differences. But in a way, all they
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wanted, what they wanted was, they
actually wanted to say that the
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written by Indians and that also in
English. It was.
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Only when V .K. Gokak wrote his first
book in the year 1964, it is there that
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he makes explicit differences between
the terms Indo -Anglian literature and
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Indo -English literature.
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While he calls Indo -Anglian literature
as literature created by
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Indians, when he talks about Indo
-English literature, he talks about the
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translated literature. Why different?
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And then, you know, Because by 1800, by
1850,
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these things had already subsided, my
dear friends. And Indians
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now wanted to write their own stories
and that also in English.
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Their own poems and that also in
English.
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J .B.
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Alfonso Caracalla in his book titled
Indo -English Literature in the 19th
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Century.
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suggests the term to mean literature
produced by Indians in English. So after
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the debate,
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as many people had started calling it by
different names. Some of them felt that
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when we say Anglo -Indian, Indo
-Anglican, there is actually a tinge of
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But then we wanted our own literature.
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One of the writers has gone to the
extent of saying that when we say Anglo
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-Indian, what we mean, we are not
talking about language, but we are
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about a language and a country.
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And it was only in 1962 when Srinivas
Iyengar wrote a book,
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Indian Writing in English.
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So everyone accepted.
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And later on, it was also accepted by
Sahitya Kadmi, Indian English
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Literature as a new branch.
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And since then...
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Not only have we come a long way, but we
have our own literature, my dear
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friends. It was, of course, the by
-product of an eventful encounter, as
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M .K. Nayak in his book says.
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But then, all these terms with different
appellations wanted only one thing,
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wanted the contributions of Indians in
English writing.
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I have been mentioning that it was
Bengal which was the home of Indian
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literature where it flourished before it
did in Bombay. Later on
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as you go into the details of Indian
English literature and for that matter
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Indian poetry in English you will find
that there came to be several groups
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Bombay groups, Calcutta groups, and then
many of the people who were writing in
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their regional languages, they also
tried their hand at English.
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If we take a look at the political
repercussions, we'll find that when
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Hindi was being introduced, there were
several slogans against it
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because Hindi was not being accepted as
a link language.
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And that is why later on, English also
started being used as a language for all
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purposes. And this is how the journey of
Indian writing in English began.
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So people like Swami Vivekananda, Swami
Vivekananda once said that
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the system of Sanskrit education can be
best calculated to keep India in
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darkness. Now for the first time, my
dear friends, People like Swami
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and others, they also felt the need that
English was actually the need of the
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hour. And it was only through English
that India could come a long way and
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show its own contribution.
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Of course, we have talked about
Macaulay's minutes on education.
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And you will really appreciate that
there were some Britishers,
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namely William Jones, Hal Hard, And
Charles Wood, who actually
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said that a medium of intercourse was
necessary in order to have the
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administrative facility available to all
people. And that is how English
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actually in India got recognized and
English education had its own dividends
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reap in the days to come, my dear
friend.
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But then as we came forward, we found
that even many
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novelists also, Of course, they realized
that English was a sort of imposition.
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Here, I would like to make a mention of
the quote that Raja Rao, one of the
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famous Indian English novelists, I mean,
the four runners of Indian novel in
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English, who said, the telling has not
been easy. One has to convey in a
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language that is not one's own and the
spirit that is one's own.
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So they felt that when you were speaking
in a different language or writing in a
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different language, you were not able to
create or to show the spirit that was
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your own. One has to convey the various
said and omissions of a certain thought
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movement that looks maltreated in an
alien language.
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They actually thought that English
language was against the spirit of
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There are many people who later will
come to have a further discussion when
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have the second lecture on it. When they
also realized that no, we should
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actually write in English. And before I
conclude, my dear friend, let me also
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make a mention of how the famous Bengali
poet.
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who got Nobel Prize in Literature,
especially for his work Gitanjali, how
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also felt that English was a sort of
imposition and it was a sort of
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And in one of his letters to his niece,
he says, you have written to me about my
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English translations of Gitanjali,
because Tagore had translated his own
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Gitanjali into English. How I wrote them
and why people like them so much, I
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still cannot quite comprehend.
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That I cannot write English is such a
plain fact that I never had the pride to
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ever feel ashamed of it. If nobody wrote
to me in English inviting me to tea, I
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didn't have the courage to even write a
reply.
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You are thinking perhaps that I have rid
myself of that illusion today?
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Absolutely on the contrary, that I have
written in English seems to me to be the
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illusion. So he could never think that
he could write in English, but later on
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it is said, that Tagore was also highly
influenced by English and one more
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Indian poet especially when Seerudh
because you know gradual change in
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came and people accepted that they had
to write in English if they really had
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survive and if they really had to make a
mention of their own and they wanted
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that India should be known elsewhere So
what she says in one of her poems,
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you can read, only I'll talk about the
lines which I have emphasized.
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I speak three languages, write in two,
dream in one.
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Don't write in English, they said.
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English is not your mother tongue.
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Why not leave me alone?
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Critics, friends, visiting cousins,
every one of you, why not let me speak
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any language I like? The language I
speak becomes mine.
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My dear friends, to say that English is
only the language of the British, here
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Kamaladas gives a very good retort and
she says the language I speak becomes
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mine, its distortions, its queerness,
all mine, mine alone, it is half
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half Indian, funny perhaps, but it is
honest, it is as human as I am human. My
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dear friends, language not only
humanizes, language civilizes.
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But a language of one's own actually
allows one to express one's own
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spirit, one's own reactions, one's own
feeling. And that is how English came to
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be accepted, my dear friend. And when we
talk about the first writers of
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English, we will find that even though
they had started writing in English much
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before, fine.
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Much before even say Henry de Roggio who
is considered to be the first English
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poet. But even before that there were
many who had started writing
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autobiographies, who had started writing
letters. And you know in this regard
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even in 18th century you know 1794 when
one Indian named Dean Muhammad who had
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written, who had published in 1794 a
book called The Travels of
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00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Dean Muhammad.
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Unfortunately, later on he got settled
in England because he was one of the
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employees of East India Company and that
is why he is not mentioned in many of
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the books, my dear friend. So, before we
come to the conclusion, let us also
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make a mention that those people who had
started writing in English, they had
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not been writing in English and they
were not accepted because they had
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translated some of the works. in english
and that is why we cannot consider them
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to either to be the first indian english
writer or to be the first indian
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english poet my different so before we
conclude let us say that language is
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a weapon and it is it is in our ability
to learn language and we can of course
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learn a language and with the help of
language we can really make our
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felt elsewhere across
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the seven C's in other nations, in other
countries. With this, I come to the end
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of lecture and in the second lecture, I
shall start talking how Indians also
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started writing in English and we shall
come to Indian poetry in English.
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And I think since Indian English poetry
is a vast corpus like Indian English
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literature, but then a discussion on it
is essential because we want to
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familiarize people with the Indian ways
of life, with the Indian ethos, with the
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Indian strain, with the Indian
sensibility, my dear friend. So before
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for the next talk, till then, thank you
very much. Have a nice day. Bye.
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