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Man has always believed in the invisible : spirits, ghosts, silent shadows...
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But not everyone shares this faith. What if the truth was hidden there, between belief and doubt ?
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In 1987, after a difficult pregnancy, Isabelle gave birth to her second child, David
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Since that birth, She feels and experiences strange phenomena
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Since that birth, She feels and experiences strange phenomena
Suddenly,
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I heard a voice tell me...
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...pray, now.
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I sat up on my bed
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and I thought: something's wrong.
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She will understand with time that she hears and sees the dead
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Back then, we talked about witchcraft.
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My mother always told me,
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if you feel something,
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if you're not comfortable,
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you say it out loud:
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"Get out, you don't belong here."
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When we speak...
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...about exorcism.
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It's because the person,
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...or the people,
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face a situation they can't control.
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They think a power is at work,
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acting
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in that place or against them.
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And there, it was...
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...Hades.
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It was hell.
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I'm Isabelle.
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I'll be 64 on April 28...
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...2024.
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I was born in 1960.
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I'm a mother of three.
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We're filming here
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at my children's workplace.
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We are perfumers.
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In 1987, my son David,
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who works with me, was born.
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I went through something
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that wasn't very pleasant.
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At five and a half months, David
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was diagnosed with that disease
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transmitted by cats.
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Toxoplasmosis.
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I found out
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through a letter from the hospital,
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stating that I was entitled
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to a therapeutic abortion
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for this child.
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It was a massive shock.
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Because during each pregnancy,
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I gained a lot of weight.
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I had very large babies
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that I could feel very early on.
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And I was starting to wonder.
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My husband was a doctor.
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He told me: "You can't keep him."
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I already had
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a 4-year-old daughter, Sophie.
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He'd say: "Do you realize?
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You won't be able to care for him.
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Think about Sophie."
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But I didn't want an abortion.
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Deep down, I felt that
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this child was fine.
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It was hideous.
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I received letters from the hospital
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ordering me
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to abort.
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What I feel,
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when I see Isabelle's story,
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is that she has this inner voice
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speaking to her,
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saying:
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"Don't do this."
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To me, it's the sixth sense.
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That small inner voice.
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An intuition that's innate.
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You don't know why, you just know.
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You can't explain it.
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It's not rational.
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It's something deep inside us
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saying: "I know this is it.
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I must listen because it's right."
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At that moment,
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I needed to, how should I say...
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release this stress,
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escape this difficult emotional state...
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...by painting.
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I was constantly
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painting incredible things.
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Angels. I don't know why.
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Even with a religious education,
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I had completely set it aside.
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My children weren't baptized.
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I was no longer practicing.
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But I was painting angels.
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and with such a technique,
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it shouldn't have been possible.
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I was self-taught.
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For instance, I painted
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like...
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...artists in the Middle Ages.
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Using beer and eggs,
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I made my own binders,
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pigments, things like that,
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I didn't know where I got that technique.
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Isabelle is very emotional.
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This emotion allows her
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to connect, to link up.
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To link to herself
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and to something greater.
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I think that when she paints,
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Isabelle is guided by her soul.
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Her soul pushes her to externalize
her emotions on the canvas,
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her intuitions,
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her feelings.
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At the same time, I think she is
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maybe,
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connected to one of her past lives.
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She picked up something
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she already had within her
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to continue it in this life.
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I was discovering an artistic side
that I didn't have at all.
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I used to do a lot of sports.
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I had never had any interest
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in any kind of artistic activity.
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So I was very surprised
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by this sudden interest in painting,
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which helped me a lot until
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my son's birth,
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who turned out to be a baby,
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beautiful,
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normal,
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big,
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he weighed almost 11 lbs.
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So...
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...there you go.
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That was the first episode.
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After that, I had Nina, the youngest.
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David's birth
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had been so terrible.
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One contraction,
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6 minutes, 4.5 hours of stitches.
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So, when I was pregnant
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with Nina, the youngest,
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I had called a friend who was
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an anesthesiologist, telling him:
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"you'd better be there the day
I give birth,
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because I don't want to go
through that again."
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And when Nina was born,
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I had furunculosis.
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It was horrible.
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I was in pain,
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I was tired.
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I wasn't doing well.
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I needed to take naps
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because I was having a hard time
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recovering from that pregnancy.
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Nina must have been 6 or 7 months old.
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I would take naps at the same time as the children.
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It allowed me to recover.
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And suddenly, I heard a voice
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completely thunderous, telling me...
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...and I mean, it really commanded me.
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Pray, now.
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Pray now !
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And I found myself on my knees,
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I don't know how.
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I have no explanation for it.
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Hands joined together,
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on my bed,
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crying.
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I don't know how long it lasted.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what happened.
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I was very shocked.
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My first reflex was
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to go check the children’s room,
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telling myself
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that they were making noise in their room.
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They must have turned on some music.
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Basically, it was very confusing in my head.
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The children’s room was
on the other side.
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I went to check.
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Nina and David were sleeping peacefully.
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I went to sit on my bed,
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and I told myself something is wrong.
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Something is happening and it's not right at all.
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For me, there are two factors at play.
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The first,
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Isabelle had already been prepared
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for something greater
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to communicate with the spirit.
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At the same time,
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there is also
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the encounter with the manifestation.
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And this manifestation, when it arrives
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and when you don't know, don't understand,
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it's something that can be very frightening.
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And so, it can lead you to
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believe you are going insane.
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Because communicating with the spirit,
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when you aren't used to it,
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it can really be borderline.
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I think she was truly very afraid.
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And the fact of hearing
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this voice speaking to her,
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it's something that is
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overwhelming as well when
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you aren't used to it.
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But for me, it's something that
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was already in the realm
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of a sort of preparation toward a future
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between her and the spiritual world,
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and between her and her
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future children, obviously.
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So I called
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a psychiatrist friend.
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And I said, listen, I have a problem.
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I'm becoming schizophrenic. I'm hearing voices.
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Not only am I hearing voices,
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but the voices are moving me.
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I explain to him what's happening.
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He bursts out laughing. He tells me I must be tired.
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"You're not crazy, everything is fine."
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But that wasn't what I wanted to hear.
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I wanted to be taken care of
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because I felt that something wasn't normal.
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In the end, I told myself I would go see a priest and
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I left for church.
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And there was
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a person in the church,
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and I asked if I could speak
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to the parish priest.
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I waited 5 minutes, then the priest came.
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I explained to him what was happening.
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And he turned toward the altar,
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arms outstretched on each side, saying:
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"Thank you, Lord, for bringing back a stray sheep."
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And then I thought, I've hit rock bottom.
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What is going on?
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Even if, I would say,
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the command I'd received
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was "pray now," I didn't understand
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what he was telling me.
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It wasn't at all what
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I wanted to hear.
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I mean, I don't know what
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I wanted to hear,
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but I wasn't well.
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Well ...
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Things were happening and I didn't
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realize what was going on.
256
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And without really being able to talk about it
257
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because...
258
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...to my psychiatrist friend, it was normal,
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I could explain it to him.
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But to friends...
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...they laughed.
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They laughed...
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David, it made him laugh a lot.
264
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He would say to me, yeah, sure
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mom, you see things.
266
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I told him, yes, I see them
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just like I see you.
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I didn't wonder whether it was true or not.
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I was a teenager,
270
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it's kind of the silly age.
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And I was very mischievous during that time.
272
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And my mother tells me she feels a presence.
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An entity.
274
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He's always behind my shoulder,
275
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watching what I'm doing.
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He’s wearing a raincoat and a hat.
277
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She saw him a bit like that,
278
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and she’d say, "it’s funny,
279
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but I feel like he's a bit playful,
280
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a bit of a jokester."
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We had an entity
282
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that went up and down,
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that I could feel.
284
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One evening, he said, well me...
285
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...I'm going to call him.
286
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And I'm going to see what happens.
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I thought it was funny,
288
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we had a pinball machine at home,
289
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a big pinball machine.
290
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,238
And I'd say to him: "you want to play pinball with me?"
291
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I was trying to provoke it:
292
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"Hey, man with the hat,"
293
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"what are you doing at our place?"
294
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And then at one point, my mother said,
295
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"Listen, David, you shouldn't laugh at these things,
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because you never know if the person
297
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you might be in contact with,
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the entity, is good or bad.
299
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If you invite it like that,
300
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by teasing it, by doing things,
301
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you might be inviting it to make contact.
302
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And if it's a dark soul
303
00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,559
or someone evil,
304
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it can cause things to happen."
305
00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,920
"Bad things."
306
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David went up to his room;
307
00:14:12,839 --> 00:14:15,038
It was time to sleep.
308
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I'm going to bed,
309
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I go to my room,
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I close my door.
311
00:14:18,119 --> 00:14:19,238
Suddenly,
312
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my radio makes a sound,
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a weird sound.
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I thought the radio had a problem.
315
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It turned off.
316
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Two minutes later, same thing,
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exactly the same sound,
318
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a sort of muffled white noise,
319
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like that, very strange.
320
00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:13,360
It was like a death rattle.
321
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And, same thing.
322
00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:27,560
My radio cuts out.
323
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My radio had never done that.
324
00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:31,158
It had never shut off like that.
325
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And then...
326
00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,318
my blood runs cold,
327
00:15:34,319 --> 00:15:35,719
I think back to this morning,
328
00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,920
"you provoked him, you shouldn't have."
He's a teaser.
329
00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,039
I start to panic,
330
00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,599
and my mother always told me,
331
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,719
if you feel things
332
00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,878
and you're not comfortable
333
00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:47,400
or whatever, you...
334
00:15:48,319 --> 00:15:49,999
you express it and you say,
335
00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,118
"Get out, you don't belong here,
336
00:15:52,119 --> 00:15:53,119
you... you're not..."
337
00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:55,319
Basically, you're not home,
338
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,720
you're out of place, so get out!
339
00:15:58,319 --> 00:16:00,559
And I... I scream this in my room,
340
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,158
GET OUT! YOU DON'T BELONG HERE!
341
00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:03,478
because I'm starting to panic,
342
00:16:03,479 --> 00:16:05,039
and then I see my door...
343
00:16:05,879 --> 00:16:08,039
...opening and closing.
344
00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:12,158
I still get chills talking about it.
345
00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:13,958
I jumped out of bed
346
00:16:13,959 --> 00:16:15,639
like never before, I screamed,
347
00:16:16,239 --> 00:16:17,799
I went downstairs crying.
348
00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,600
I was 15 years old.
349
00:16:21,079 --> 00:16:22,679
He came running, scared to death,
350
00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,000
because what happened in his room
351
00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:26,878
horrified him.
352
00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:27,878
I told him, "You see,
353
00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:29,159
you shouldn't play with that."
354
00:16:29,439 --> 00:16:31,118
I didn't sleep in my room for a week.
355
00:16:31,119 --> 00:16:33,238
I slept with my little sister
356
00:16:33,239 --> 00:16:34,719
I think he was so afraid,
357
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,600
so afraid, that...
358
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,879
he said, "I'll never play with
these things again."
359
00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:42,078
I didn't act tough,
360
00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:43,280
and since that experience,
361
00:16:43,639 --> 00:16:45,238
I don't mess with that anymore.
362
00:16:45,239 --> 00:16:46,200
It's just things...
363
00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:49,679
It was impossible for my door
to open like that.
364
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,118
It wasn't a draft.
365
00:16:51,119 --> 00:16:52,679
A draft can open a door
366
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,999
and it stays open,
367
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,038
but I had carpet,
368
00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:55,919
it rubbed a bit,
369
00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,199
it's not possible,
370
00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,799
it can't open and close like that.
371
00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,758
My door opened,
372
00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:01,078
there was a latch as well,
373
00:17:01,079 --> 00:17:02,359
and it closed behind it.
374
00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,559
He obviously inherited from his mom,
375
00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,720
because the gift,
376
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,639
or those perceptions are passed on,
377
00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:11,439
but it's also certainly because,
378
00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:12,318
he too,
379
00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:13,560
has a great sensitivity,
380
00:17:13,759 --> 00:17:14,479
emotion,
381
00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:16,238
so he perceives
382
00:17:16,239 --> 00:17:17,559
maybe more easily,
383
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,078
and it's maybe
384
00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:19,238
certainly more heightened
385
00:17:19,239 --> 00:17:21,239
in him than in other people.
386
00:17:21,479 --> 00:17:22,559
It served as a lesson,
387
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,479
but at the same time,
388
00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:25,958
while the girls were never afraid,
389
00:17:25,959 --> 00:17:29,319
it really shocked him.
390
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,359
But after all,
391
00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:31,679
I think, it's a good lesson,
392
00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,758
he won't go playing,
393
00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:34,479
turning tables or whatever...
394
00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,079
And so, I don't know...
395
00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:37,680
David is actually quite private.
396
00:17:38,439 --> 00:17:40,399
I don't know if he still has fun
397
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,518
with friends,
398
00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:42,318
or doing things,
399
00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:43,239
even as he gets older,
400
00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,759
but I know that ...
401
00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,200
he pushes it away, it doesn't make...
402
00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:50,438
In fact, he'd like to,
403
00:17:50,439 --> 00:17:52,720
but it makes him uncomfortable.
404
00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:56,200
In the meantime,
405
00:17:56,959 --> 00:17:59,719
I divorced my husband
406
00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,919
and with my new partner,
407
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,439
we took a farm in Schalkendorf.
408
00:18:05,959 --> 00:18:07,000
I was the one who wanted it.
409
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,438
Today, the village of Schalkendorf
410
00:18:20,439 --> 00:18:22,999
is a very quiet village,
411
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,959
very peaceful.
412
00:18:24,639 --> 00:18:25,599
I am the mayor,
413
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,758
so I would say it's great,
414
00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:27,200
very beautiful.
415
00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:31,359
No, honestly, it is beautiful,
416
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:32,959
it's quiet,
417
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,479
it's one of those...
418
00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:37,838
I'd say, wealthy villages.
419
00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:40,200
There's no animosity,
420
00:18:40,439 --> 00:18:41,239
there's no...
421
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,360
it's a harmonious village.
422
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,679
We've managed to integrate
423
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,920
all the new arrivals,
424
00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:50,478
and we have a mix
425
00:18:50,479 --> 00:18:52,239
that's truly successful
426
00:18:52,439 --> 00:18:53,559
in Schalkendorf.
427
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,318
It's a village where
428
00:18:56,319 --> 00:18:58,000
life is good.
429
00:19:00,639 --> 00:19:02,920
Around 1900 - 1905,
430
00:19:03,479 --> 00:19:05,159
where we are right now,
431
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,039
at the Schalkendorf town hall,
432
00:19:07,639 --> 00:19:10,119
there was a farm
433
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,399
occupied by people,
434
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,279
people a little bit antisocial,
435
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,799
a bit reclusive,
436
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,518
about whom there
437
00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:20,280
were many rumors,
438
00:19:21,439 --> 00:19:23,999
not only because
439
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,359
of their way of life,
440
00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:27,958
but also because of
441
00:19:27,959 --> 00:19:31,199
certain things that
442
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:31,959
could happen there,
443
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,758
which at the time sounded like...
444
00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:35,518
they still talked
445
00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:36,679
a lot about witchcraft,
446
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,360
things like that.
447
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,279
It was about actions
448
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,999
or strange things
449
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,319
happening in that place.
450
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,199
The daughter, actually,
451
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,438
it was a couple with a daughter,
452
00:19:49,439 --> 00:19:50,958
the daughter couldn't take it,
453
00:19:50,959 --> 00:19:51,958
the daughter committed suicide
454
00:19:51,959 --> 00:19:53,360
a few years later,
455
00:19:53,639 --> 00:19:55,999
and when the last member
456
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,559
of that family passed away,
457
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,479
the town bought
458
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,280
the entire farm,
459
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,359
to turn the house portion
460
00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:04,200
into the town hall.
461
00:20:09,519 --> 00:20:12,638
They're old farmhouses
462
00:20:12,639 --> 00:20:14,239
with very high walls,
463
00:20:14,439 --> 00:20:15,879
almost like enclosures,
464
00:20:16,319 --> 00:20:18,360
so you have large wooden doors,
465
00:20:18,439 --> 00:20:20,438
two large wooden gates
466
00:20:20,439 --> 00:20:21,959
that open into a large courtyard.
467
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,359
In the middle, there was a linden tree,
468
00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:28,280
surrounded by barns,
469
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,919
it was very pretty,
470
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,839
it had a lot of character.
471
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,119
The whole place had a lot of character.
472
00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:40,600
When we visited this house,
473
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,360
the girl from the agency went first,
474
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,000
my partner behind her,
475
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,239
and then me.
476
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,078
And suddenly,
477
00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:01,479
I see someone walking down,
478
00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:03,399
a man dressed
479
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,319
in an old sweater,
480
00:21:04,959 --> 00:21:07,438
old corduroy pants,
481
00:21:07,439 --> 00:21:08,800
and I think, here we go again.
482
00:21:09,479 --> 00:21:11,879
Then I decide to follow him.
483
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,158
And then he disappears
484
00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:23,599
through a door that you can't
485
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,560
see if you don't know it's there.
486
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,639
I open the door,
487
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,879
I feel stairs, a few steps,
488
00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:41,838
and I fall into what I saw later
489
00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:42,878
was hay,
490
00:21:42,879 --> 00:21:43,958
but I sank in,
491
00:21:43,959 --> 00:21:47,200
and then I got scared. And I went up,
492
00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,239
and then I went into the house,
493
00:21:49,479 --> 00:21:53,199
but things were already
494
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,199
a little strange.
495
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,519
Just before moving in,
496
00:21:56,439 --> 00:21:58,318
I wasn't sure if
497
00:21:58,319 --> 00:21:59,638
it was a good idea,
498
00:21:59,639 --> 00:22:03,559
because I felt it was the tree
499
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,519
that hides the forest.
500
00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:07,839
But I didn't listen to myself.
501
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,318
When I saw that
502
00:22:09,319 --> 00:22:10,360
man enter the barn
503
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,438
I told myself I'd go look,
504
00:22:12,439 --> 00:22:14,079
I took a large flashlight.
505
00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:33,239
And there, it was absolute horror,
there were crosses on the wall.
506
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:40,839
Female and male symbols.
507
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,719
I wonder what it is.
508
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,518
I already didn't feel safe,
509
00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:47,319
and thought atrocities happened here.
510
00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:49,478
They killed some, they put...
511
00:22:49,479 --> 00:22:52,159
Anyway, my head was spinning...
512
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,078
I lived with a very difficult man,
513
00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:04,438
who loved elegance,
514
00:23:04,439 --> 00:23:05,839
but it was extreme,
515
00:23:06,239 --> 00:23:08,000
all the paintings had to be redone,
516
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,239
specifically with Italian paints.
517
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,799
So, we brought in a couple,
518
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,199
to work in the house,
519
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,838
who could do the renovations
520
00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:17,319
and the Italian painting.
521
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,559
In the kitchen,
522
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,479
there was to be a marble countertop
523
00:23:22,959 --> 00:23:24,799
that had to be custom-cut.
524
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,600
It was a massive job.
525
00:23:27,479 --> 00:23:29,719
The couple knew exactly what to do.
526
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,079
They started the work.
527
00:23:31,439 --> 00:23:32,878
Alain was in Paris,
528
00:23:32,879 --> 00:23:35,158
and I was in Strasbourg,
529
00:23:35,159 --> 00:23:36,680
so I went to supervise the work.
530
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,360
And after a while,
531
00:23:38,639 --> 00:23:40,000
Adrian tells me,
532
00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:41,919
"I'm tired,
533
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,999
I'm not sleeping at night."
534
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,478
Then he finally tells me:
535
00:23:44,479 --> 00:23:45,439
"You know,
536
00:23:45,959 --> 00:23:47,878
at night we don't leave the room.
537
00:23:47,879 --> 00:23:49,238
After a certain hour,
538
00:23:49,239 --> 00:23:50,359
we lock ourselves in
539
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:51,679
because I felt someone
540
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,839
touch my shoulder,
541
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,559
I thought it was Elena,
542
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,800
but it wasn't Elena!"
543
00:23:57,319 --> 00:23:58,518
It was strange.
544
00:23:58,519 --> 00:23:59,958
I asked him, "What do you mean?"
545
00:23:59,959 --> 00:24:01,118
He said there are people there,
546
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,799
that they don't feel right,
547
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,479
so they sleep in the office.
548
00:24:05,439 --> 00:24:07,118
It was under construction,
549
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,519
and they were sleeping in there.
550
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,958
And to sleep,
551
00:24:09,959 --> 00:24:11,479
they played very loud music.
552
00:24:11,639 --> 00:24:13,199
That's how they managed to sleep,
553
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,319
but without actually resting.
554
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,079
And then I thought, "Okay..."
555
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,999
And then something strange happened,
556
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,199
something completely unbelievable.
557
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,159
On Saturday night,
558
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,518
I had finished setting up my things.
559
00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:34,159
I was waiting for Alain to arrive.
560
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,759
And I had invited friends
561
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,039
to dinner in the evening.
562
00:24:44,439 --> 00:24:46,039
We ended late into the night.
563
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,878
I put all the dishes in the kitchen,
564
00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:51,638
telling myself I'd clean tomorrow.
565
00:24:51,639 --> 00:24:52,839
I went up to bed.
566
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,799
Everything's fine. But at 5 a.m.,
567
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,159
I was woken up.
568
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,679
Something was running above my head,
569
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,878
it felt like I was at a summer camp.
570
00:25:49,879 --> 00:25:51,560
I don't know how many there were.
571
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:54,400
My heart was beating in my throat...
572
00:25:54,439 --> 00:25:55,559
...out of fear.
573
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,920
And I thought...
574
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,079
...who is in my house?
575
00:26:06,959 --> 00:26:08,078
What was astonishing,
576
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:10,399
was that my two big dogs didn't move.
577
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,758
It was completely insane.
578
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:13,600
Am I the only one hearing them?
579
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:16,759
They didn't even look at the ceiling.
580
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,478
I pulled the covers over my head,
581
00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:21,878
I didn't want to know anything.
582
00:26:21,879 --> 00:26:23,519
I was terrified.
583
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,158
Then finally, I got up the courage
584
00:26:26,159 --> 00:26:27,439
to leave the room,
585
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,238
I started yelling,
586
00:26:29,239 --> 00:26:30,639
"What the hell is going on?"
587
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,239
I went up to the top floor,
588
00:26:42,439 --> 00:26:43,199
there was nothing,
589
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000
and the noise started downstairs.
590
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,720
There was a clock,
591
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,799
and on the other side, something
592
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,799
that had become a bookshelf,
593
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,399
but with a door that opened
594
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,359
and closed,
595
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,319
and it wouldn't stop banging.
596
00:27:09,959 --> 00:27:12,639
I go down, racing downstairs,
597
00:27:12,959 --> 00:27:14,839
and it started up again upstairs.
598
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,720
And when the church bells struck 6,
599
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,079
it stopped dead.
600
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:30,920
And the house...
601
00:27:32,239 --> 00:27:34,878
I went up, put on a tracksuit,
602
00:27:34,879 --> 00:27:36,280
and went out with the dogs.
603
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,439
I... I was panicking.
604
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,800
And the kids were coming over,
605
00:27:42,239 --> 00:27:44,079
with friends for lunch.
606
00:27:45,479 --> 00:27:47,238
And I thought, "What do I do?"
607
00:27:47,239 --> 00:27:48,719
"Do I go back to Strasbourg?"
608
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,438
Do I get in the car,
609
00:27:49,439 --> 00:27:50,519
and I head back to Strasbourg ?
610
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,519
What do I do?
611
00:27:54,239 --> 00:27:56,119
I put my dogs safely in the car.
612
00:27:57,639 --> 00:27:59,118
I was ready to pull away,
613
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,638
I didn't know what I should do.
614
00:28:00,639 --> 00:28:02,360
I told myself either I go back to Strasbourg,
615
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:05,039
or I wait,
616
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,438
and I waited,
617
00:28:07,439 --> 00:28:09,799
because they might come around ten,
618
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,679
around nine-thirty,
619
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,920
I didn't know exactly when.
620
00:28:12,239 --> 00:28:13,959
And I didn't go back into the house
621
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,479
to call...
622
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,879
I didn't want to go back into the house anymore.
623
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,559
In this episode, based on what I see,
624
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,838
as for Isabelle, to me,
625
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:23,959
she is truly connected to the spirit world.
626
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,079
That much is clear.
627
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,519
To me, there's no question about it.
628
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,638
It's really...
629
00:28:28,639 --> 00:28:29,958
Not even worth analyzing;
630
00:28:29,959 --> 00:28:30,839
for me, it's obvious.
631
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,638
But you should also know
632
00:28:32,639 --> 00:28:33,800
that in certain houses,
633
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:35,118
there are houses that
634
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,560
are called "passage houses".
635
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,199
Maybe there are other terms;
636
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,479
I'm just explaining it in my own words.
637
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:42,119
But these are passages where, for example,
638
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:44,118
in times of war,
639
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:45,878
people helped others cross,
640
00:28:45,879 --> 00:28:47,879
hid them, and
641
00:28:48,239 --> 00:28:50,720
led them somewhere else.
642
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,119
So in a way, people also say
643
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,559
of these houses,
644
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,318
that they are passing souls,
645
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,199
because it's a channel that takes them
646
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
somewhere else.
647
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,838
So it's like a column, like that,
648
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:03,559
where you could say souls pass through,
649
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,720
like an elevator.
650
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,478
Then, I think
651
00:29:07,479 --> 00:29:09,238
she might have also been able to
652
00:29:09,239 --> 00:29:11,839
hear and see things that happened,
653
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:13,920
since she connects to the place,
654
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:15,638
and she also connects
655
00:29:15,639 --> 00:29:17,000
to a memory of the past.
656
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,999
So for me,
657
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,360
these are memories of the past,
658
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:21,319
things that occurred
659
00:29:21,959 --> 00:29:23,719
that she connects to.
660
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,400
For example,
661
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,359
people who might have committed suicide,
662
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,519
people who might have died in that house,
663
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,719
people to whom
664
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,560
all sorts of things happened.
665
00:29:32,959 --> 00:29:33,838
And she simply
666
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:35,199
connects to the energy,
667
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,680
to the memory of their past.
668
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,359
And so she hears it,
669
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,639
as if it were reality.
670
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,078
But since there is no space-time for me,
671
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,158
no past, no present, no future,
672
00:29:45,159 --> 00:29:46,720
everything is aligned.
673
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,958
So she can drift, travel
674
00:29:48,959 --> 00:29:51,999
through these different spheres
675
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,560
or atmospheres, I'd say,
676
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,758
and pick up and tell
677
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:57,600
the stories exactly as she sees them.
678
00:29:57,959 --> 00:29:59,319
To me, it's truly genuine.
679
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,879
What terrified me was that I couldn't see them.
680
00:30:03,959 --> 00:30:05,078
I could hear them,
681
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:06,800
me, who was usually clairvoyant,
682
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,079
able to interact with the deceased.
683
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:12,638
Well, if they came looking for me;
684
00:30:12,639 --> 00:30:14,079
I don't go looking for them.
685
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,319
They would appear and I would see them just as I see you
686
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,318
and we could talk,
687
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:22,359
but peacefully; here,
688
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,519
there was nothing peaceful about it.
689
00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:27,560
And then my children thought, "Mom is not kidding."
690
00:30:28,479 --> 00:30:29,478
I was panicking.
691
00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:33,118
And then, for me to ask my friend Régine to stay and sleep with me,
692
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,759
and not in the guest room, but right there, in my bed with me.
693
00:30:36,439 --> 00:30:38,159
I was freaking out.
694
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,559
Régine wasn't working anymore;
695
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,200
she was retired.
696
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,758
And I said to her, "Would you stay with me?"
697
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,839
Because I couldn't see myself sleeping alone in that house anymore.
698
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:58,038
She laughs and says, "Well, yeah."
699
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:00,000
That first night, it was windy.
700
00:31:00,879 --> 00:31:02,879
And we made sure that the cellar door,
701
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,438
everything...
702
00:31:04,439 --> 00:31:07,118
everything in the house was locked tight.
703
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,000
The next day, all the barn doors were open.
704
00:31:10,439 --> 00:31:11,519
Every single one of them.
705
00:31:11,959 --> 00:31:13,919
So I told her, "This time, we're locking them."
706
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,399
The thing with the doors, we did that for 2 or 3 days,
707
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,758
checking every time that it's closed,
708
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:20,399
the latch is shut,
709
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,518
but they would still open.
710
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,799
Finally, we went to get the keys,
711
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,839
and we locked them tight.
712
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:28,959
I would lock up,
713
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,079
she'd check, I'd give her the keys,
714
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,759
every door, like that.
715
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,680
The next day, the doors were open.
716
00:31:35,959 --> 00:31:40,039
That's when I called the exorcist.
717
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,599
I called
718
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,118
the Diocese of Strasbourg,
719
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:52,479
to have an exorcist come home.
720
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,280
Most of the time,
721
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:57,519
when we talk
722
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,318
about exorcism,
723
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,838
it's because people are facing
724
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:05,560
a situation they can't control,
725
00:32:06,479 --> 00:32:07,799
and they believe
726
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,958
there is a power
727
00:32:08,959 --> 00:32:10,280
that is acting
728
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,319
on the location, or against them.
729
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,280
That is the main reason they reach
out to an exorcist.
730
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:18,999
To be liberated
731
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,319
from what prevents them from living.
732
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,318
He was Orthodox,
733
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,038
a retired Orthodox priest,
734
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:27,920
who was still an exorcist.
735
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,159
He told me, "Yes, it's crowded here."
736
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:33,959
So it's quite a ceremony.
737
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,239
Concretely, how a blessing is done.
738
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,559
It happened to me,
739
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,518
a person was telling me
740
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,200
about all the difficulties she had.
741
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200
A person who was otherwise
742
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,279
completely balanced,
743
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,638
not at all someone who was
personally unstable.
744
00:32:49,639 --> 00:32:50,838
She had a profession,
745
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:52,360
she had a son, etc.
746
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:56,319
So, I went to her home
747
00:32:57,759 --> 00:32:58,758
to bless a house,
748
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,200
to bless a place, you must be there.
749
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,479
In those cases, we take
750
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,599
a short moment of prayer
751
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,920
and a Bible reference to show that
752
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,079
after all, what makes us
753
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,639
intervene,
754
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,318
is what deeply dwells within us,
755
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:16,439
within the Church,
756
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,599
namely faith
757
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,838
and the Word of God.
758
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,359
So we will use, for example,
759
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,119
for the house, several citations.
760
00:33:25,479 --> 00:33:27,680
Jesus visiting his friends
761
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,238
Mary,
762
00:33:29,239 --> 00:33:31,719
Martha, and Lazarus,
763
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,000
we can use
764
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,838
Jesus dining with Pharisees, ...
765
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:38,879
So the home is something important.
766
00:33:39,159 --> 00:33:40,279
So there you have
767
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,799
the reference
768
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,238
we will use
769
00:33:43,239 --> 00:33:47,800
and we enter into praise, in a way,
770
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,318
for the
771
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,039
presence of God in our living spaces,
772
00:33:52,439 --> 00:33:53,680
for the house.
773
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,400
And then, in a second stage,
774
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,878
we will effectively make a gesture
775
00:33:58,879 --> 00:34:00,360
or gestures that correspond
776
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,318
to what is requested,
777
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:04,800
what is desired, and what is lived.
778
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,600
To know
779
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,679
we take water, we bless it,
holy water,
780
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,038
which reminds us
781
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:13,279
that we are baptized,
782
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,399
that is,
783
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,559
immersed in water, both purification
784
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,999
and new birth.
785
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,038
And with this water,
786
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:21,719
we will go through different areas,
787
00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:23,679
I go through different areas of
the house,
788
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,399
every part of the house
789
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,400
with the person who contacted me.
790
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,438
It's never without the people,
791
00:34:30,439 --> 00:34:33,318
it's not a magic rite performed
by a priest somewhere.
792
00:34:33,319 --> 00:34:36,078
We involve the people concerned,
793
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,318
and we go through,
794
00:34:38,319 --> 00:34:39,518
we bless
795
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:41,920
the whole house.
796
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:43,839
This is to
797
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,359
say both that
798
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,238
God is present, that she is loved,
799
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,679
and that this love cannot be
800
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,359
challenged, that she can rely on it,
801
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,158
and that is how she can move forward,
802
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:57,639
and not be completely
803
00:34:58,720 --> 00:34:59,838
imprisoned, in a way,
804
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:01,078
by the situation
805
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:02,919
she describes and experiences,
806
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,159
and which
807
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,159
it terrifies her or
808
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,119
prevents her from living, or
809
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,879
makes her feel unwell.
810
00:35:16,479 --> 00:35:19,318
At the end of the entire process,
811
00:35:19,319 --> 00:35:21,158
we went through every room.
812
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:23,238
We had to turn a certain way.
813
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,478
The priest had incense, and we
threw salt in every room.
814
00:35:27,479 --> 00:35:29,958
everywhere.
815
00:35:29,959 --> 00:35:31,958
The priest told me that
816
00:35:31,959 --> 00:35:34,800
I had a huge cosmo-telluric chimney.
817
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,518
He told me specifically not to
put a sofa on it.
818
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:41,838
There's too much energy.
819
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:43,158
He said to me:
820
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:46,559
"I can exorcise all I want,
821
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,399
I can clean all I want,
822
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,638
but this is a passage between
here and elsewhere.
823
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:51,720
It's a door."
824
00:35:52,319 --> 00:35:54,078
He says we can't close this door,
825
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:55,638
and we shouldn't close it.
826
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:57,599
I didn't feel very helped.
827
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,238
If we don't close it, does that
mean they'll always be there?
828
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,438
they'll always be there?
829
00:36:00,439 --> 00:36:02,958
He said yes, but we'd clean
regularly.
830
00:36:02,959 --> 00:36:04,958
Then he explained that sometimes
831
00:36:04,959 --> 00:36:06,399
things would go well,
832
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,399
and he'd return in three weeks.
833
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,958
One must remember that in Jesus's
time and in his society,
834
00:36:10,959 --> 00:36:13,879
and in his society,
835
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,878
the causes of various things
836
00:36:15,879 --> 00:36:16,958
were unknown.
837
00:36:16,959 --> 00:36:18,159
For example, an epileptic child,
838
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,638
mentioned at one point,
839
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,279
they would say there's an
840
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,079
evil spirit within him.
841
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:25,078
So, essentially,
842
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,479
"evil spirit" meant anything
disturbing life.
843
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,400
Today, this is well-defined by
medical knowledge,
844
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,079
but there are also
845
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,279
other things
846
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,638
that are present.
847
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:41,438
I won't list every term,
848
00:36:41,439 --> 00:36:42,399
because
849
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,318
you could make a whole catalog,
850
00:36:44,319 --> 00:36:46,238
there are even books about it,
851
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:46,919
but
852
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,399
this doesn't provide a description.
853
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,639
We'll talk about "situations."
854
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,680
In fact, they never really left.
855
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,878
They leave and they come back.
856
00:36:56,879 --> 00:36:58,158
In any case,
857
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:01,719
my imagination began to run wild.
858
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,118
I had been very afraid,
859
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:05,638
even though everything I'd seen
860
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,280
before had been
861
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,920
peaceful.
862
00:37:10,319 --> 00:37:12,318
In the interactions I had
863
00:37:12,319 --> 00:37:13,958
with all these deceased people,
864
00:37:13,959 --> 00:37:16,238
there had never been this violence.
865
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,158
I felt it was evil...
866
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,639
well, it was something...
867
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,959
we were not on the same level.
868
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,079
It was dark,
869
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,399
it was truly dark.
870
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,958
Mr. Durenbarr, the priest had told me
871
00:37:31,959 --> 00:37:33,999
there were many farms where
872
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,758
witches' Sabbats had occurred,
873
00:37:35,759 --> 00:37:36,959
unpleasant things...
874
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,038
I think there are vibrations,
875
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:41,920
vibrational rates with people,
876
00:37:42,439 --> 00:37:45,799
and when we're on the same frequency
877
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,478
or from different soul families,
878
00:37:48,479 --> 00:37:50,039
I don't know how to explain it.
879
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,360
I think it's cool,
880
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,119
but there, it was
881
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:55,959
Hades.
882
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,560
It was hell.
883
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,479
To me, it's obvious Isabelle
talks about vibrations.
884
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,159
It's really a matter of vibrations.
885
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,599
But it's not to be confused.
886
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,438
It's not because Isabelle
887
00:38:07,439 --> 00:38:09,478
is a luminous character.
888
00:38:09,479 --> 00:38:12,559
Whether or not one is luminous
889
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,638
doesn't mean we won't or
890
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:15,920
cannot
891
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,318
connect.
892
00:38:17,319 --> 00:38:19,920
It has nothing to do with Isabelle.
893
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,118
I think Isabelle has
great strength within her,
894
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,559
and when dealing with such things,
895
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,360
it may seem shocking,
896
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,238
but it's that
897
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,438
somehow she has the strength
898
00:38:29,439 --> 00:38:30,559
to go through it.
899
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,038
And she also arrived
900
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:33,199
at this place, in a way,
901
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,119
to heal it today.
902
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,639
Of that, I am convinced.
903
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,399
But she may have also
904
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,518
been in another life,
905
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:42,958
connecting perhaps
906
00:38:42,959 --> 00:38:45,559
to something more powerful.
907
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,958
perhaps on the side of...
908
00:38:46,959 --> 00:38:47,879
perhaps more...
909
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,638
I don't want to say "sorcery,"
910
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:53,239
because a sorcerer isn't always
911
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,000
evil,
912
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,118
but maybe connected to something
913
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:58,359
more violent,
914
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,118
darker.
915
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:01,599
And today, she has
916
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,078
come to cleanse it,
917
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:04,599
or to bring light.
918
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,039
I'm not saying this is reality,
919
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,599
but it could be
920
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,999
in her own story.
921
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,199
At least for me,
922
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,559
she has the strength, the power,
923
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,560
she has
924
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,680
truly the ability
925
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,878
to heal the place
926
00:39:20,879 --> 00:39:21,799
and bring light to it.
927
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,958
Otherwise, I don't think
928
00:39:22,959 --> 00:39:24,079
she would have been chosen.
929
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,359
Personally,
930
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,118
I'm not trying to make a diagnosis
931
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:30,438
of what it is
932
00:39:30,439 --> 00:39:33,479
I'm not here to play psychologist,
933
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,039
or any kind of investigator.
934
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,238
I will first welcome the person
935
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,118
and try to
936
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:41,679
support them,
937
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,158
to hear what they say first,
938
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,599
and to support their situation.
939
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,638
What we have are
940
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:49,999
spiritual means
941
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,359
given to us, and
942
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,118
it's in that area that we try to strengthen their lives,
943
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:56,599
to allow them to move forward
944
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,280
and face a situation.
945
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,119
I took over a farm
946
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,119
that was completely destined for me.
947
00:40:10,759 --> 00:40:12,999
One night at 3 a.m.,
948
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,359
I see Sainte Marguerite,
949
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,719
my mother's name.
950
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,399
"House for sale." I click the link,
951
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,000
and I see " La Jeanne d'Arc".
952
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,920
I almost cried.
953
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:25,399
My mother's name, "La Jeanne d'Arc"...
954
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,239
we descend from Pierre d'Arc's family.
955
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:29,639
I thought, "This is a sign."
956
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,478
I send an email right away,
957
00:40:32,479 --> 00:40:35,638
he replies the next day,
we set an appointment.
958
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,400
The day after, I visit the house.
959
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:39,838
I say, "I'll take it."
960
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:41,279
Regine is with me, she says:
961
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,679
"You're completely crazy."
962
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,638
She says, "You can't live in here,
963
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:45,478
it's impossible."
964
00:40:45,479 --> 00:40:47,999
"You can't leave where you are
to live here."
965
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,959
"I give you six months."
966
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,799
She toured the house,
then came back out.
967
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,679
I could project myself into it.
968
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,719
I did a second visit.
969
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,360
At the time of the second visit,
970
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,879
there was
971
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,479
one of the heirs,
972
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,359
the owner's great-aunt.
973
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,958
I told her: "I'll buy it!"
974
00:41:04,959 --> 00:41:06,318
She said yes.
975
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:08,479
"But I'll make you
an indecent proposal..."
976
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,719
"...on the price because
there's so much work to do."
977
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:12,638
She laughed,
978
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:14,238
I made my indecent proposal,
979
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,560
and two hours later, she said yes.
980
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,838
It was so certain for me,
981
00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:21,078
so certain for her,
982
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:22,758
that before seeing the notary,
983
00:41:22,759 --> 00:41:24,919
I had already started the work.
984
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,438
And I still live in that farm ...
985
00:41:27,439 --> 00:41:28,560
Amazing things...
986
00:41:36,439 --> 00:41:38,719
Personally,
987
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,799
I'm more of a
988
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,838
mathematician,
989
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:44,800
so I don't really believe
990
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,879
in this kind
991
00:41:47,759 --> 00:41:48,920
of things.
992
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,439
On the other hand,
993
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,400
I don't forbid myself,
994
00:41:53,959 --> 00:41:55,878
I'm not completely closed
to the idea,
995
00:41:55,879 --> 00:41:57,799
because things still happen.
996
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,360
There are still people
with powers...
997
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,399
it's quite
998
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,999
incredible, and you can't
999
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,879
you can't just
1000
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,560
dismiss it
1001
00:42:10,439 --> 00:42:11,920
that easily.
1002
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,838
I believe in it completely.
1003
00:42:14,839 --> 00:42:18,118
And I don't believe because of my
education;
1004
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:19,879
it's really because I lived it.
1005
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:21,399
I've had experiences.
1006
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,680
I don't know if it's because
1007
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,758
a certain sensitivity to
1008
00:42:25,759 --> 00:42:27,838
these things attracts them.
1009
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:28,838
Of course,
1010
00:42:28,839 --> 00:42:31,359
I couldn't tell you I don't
believe, since I myself...
1011
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,399
...was born into two families
1012
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,118
with a lot of mediumship,
1013
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,118
clairvoyance,
1014
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,679
healers, etc.
1015
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,759
And I am a medium.
1016
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,919
So I can't not believe in it.
1017
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,518
However, I am very grounded,
1018
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,438
I am very connected to the earth.
1019
00:42:47,439 --> 00:42:48,518
To me, it's
1020
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:49,838
essential to be connected
1021
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,839
to be able to communicate.
1022
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,158
My sister-in-law said that
for a year,
1023
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,318
she spoke with her father
1024
00:42:57,319 --> 00:42:58,878
when she went to work,
1025
00:42:58,879 --> 00:43:00,560
who had passed away. So,
1026
00:43:01,959 --> 00:43:04,158
communication is always
1027
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:05,958
something that...
1028
00:43:05,959 --> 00:43:07,238
that I express and something
1029
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,638
that I receive.
1030
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:09,680
So,
1031
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:11,679
how this communication happens,
1032
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,879
in what form, etc...
1033
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,958
I admit I do
1034
00:43:14,959 --> 00:43:16,238
not know enough,
1035
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,359
I wouldn't want to make
1036
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,879
assertive statements
1037
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,759
about things for which
1038
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,639
I have neither the experience
1039
00:43:22,879 --> 00:43:27,639
nor, on the contrary, certainty in the opposite sens.
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