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(foreboding ominous music)
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- [Jessie] My name is Jessie.
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I'm a 26-year-old postgraduate student
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from Iowa studying journalism.
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But this documentary has
nothing to do with that.
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This is a personal project about something
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that is happening in a
place a couple of towns
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from where I grew up, a town called Mitchin
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in Arlin county, Iowa.
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The town is situated on the other side
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of the Des Moines River, an area known
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for its surrounding farmlands and woodland,
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and is a sight to see from a distance.
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But if you look closely,
there is something strange.
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(TV signal buzzing)
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(tense dramatic music)
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(TV signal buzzing)
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Me and my ex-boyfriend
are taking time off to film this
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in the hope of finding some clarity
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and maybe even to solve this strange
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and disturbing case once and for all.
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It's something that is close
to all of our hearts in Iowa.
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It all started four years ago,
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back when maybe I was a
little too young to understand.
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(bright acoustic music)
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(dramatic music)
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- Homicide was confirmed tonight
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in the small town of Mitchin.
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The victim is believed
to be 22-year-old waitress
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and student, Shelley
Harrison, from Arlin County.
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- There are no new leads at this point,
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but we are working hard
to get to the bottom of this.
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Our thoughts and prayers
are with the family at this point.
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- [Jessie] A local man was
arrested in 1990 up on the hill.
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He was arrested for one
murder, one attempted.
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His name was Bruce
Herber, a recluse that lived up
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in a small wooden house
in the rigid woodland area
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between the town and the main highway.
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And he still does.
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Back in '90, the town
was convinced it was him,
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that he was the one killing and attacking.
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- See, let me be, let me be.
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- [Jessie] You fucking.
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This was until four weeks
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after Bruce was arrested without bail
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and was in county jail.
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April 30th, 1990 to
be precise, another girl,
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Maisie Winters, was found
with wounds in the same area
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and with the same puncture marks
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that were similar to the other victims.
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This and the fact that Bruce had an alibi
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for when the other victims were attacked,
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led to Bruce's release with
some protests surrounding it.
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Maisie Winters was one
of the most famous cases.
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She survived, by the
way, as did Sarah O'Reilly.
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(gentle piano music)
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So what do we know
about this murderer so far?
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The victims are mainly
women, late teens to 20s.
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But there is one discrepancy.
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A guy, 25, who was
murdered in the same way.
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He was a local musician
who frequented the local bars
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and sometimes toured around the state.
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Stabbed multiple times, as was the usual
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for the murder victims,
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as well as some strange puncture marks.
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His name was Ben Holmes
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and he was killed on May 23rd, 1990.
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The killer had left an
even longer gap with him.
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In this town with a
population of just over 20,000,
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any murders and assaults are noticed,
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and the police and locals could
never understand this break
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in the killer's pattern
when it comes to Ben.
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(guitar riff music)
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The police never caught the killer.
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Even though the FBI, local townsfolk
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and many others were involved,
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even though there was a statewide search
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and they scoured the hills
and surrounding woodland.
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Whoever it was, they were gone.
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(guitar riff music)
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If I could ask you, in
relation to Ben's murder,
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do you have any idea who may
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or may not have been involved with it?
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- To be honest, nobody does.
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- [Jessie] The town seemed
to go back to normality.
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Curfews were relaxed.
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This was until 1994, another
girl was murdered the same way
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as how it happened four years ago.
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Multiple stab wounds and a struggle,
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and they were taken
towards the woodland area.
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Her name was Rochelle Harman.
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This will be a project that mainly consists
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of interviews of victims
and other folk from this town.
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(gentle rock music)
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This town that has been home,
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at least in part, to a serial killer.
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But everybody is searching
and wanting to know
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who is this mysterious
person or even creature,
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a murderer, a myth that has been known
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to be called the boogeyman.
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(hard rock music)
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(serene acoustic music)
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โช What am I to do โช
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โช What am I to say โช
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โช My mind is all I got โช
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โช These dreams and all these thoughts โช
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โช An ocean of serpents
are dancing in my skin โช
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โช My shadow eclipsed the sun โช
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โช And I sleep walk down the hill โช
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โช For miles and miles
โช - Excuse me, excuse me.
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- Okay, fun's over, get
that camera out of here.
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- [Jessie] Look, I was just wondering
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if I could ask you a few more questions
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for my documentary about the murders here?
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- Do you even have permission to film here?
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- [Jessie] Look, I'm
filming a personal project.
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I'm not sure what kind
of permission I need.
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- Okay, well, the party is over.
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- Just one. - The party is over.
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- Please, sir.
- Get that camera out of here.
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Okay? - I just need to ask you
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one question. - If you want
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any more information, I suggest
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that you apply for press pass.
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Now, I ain't gonna ask you again,
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get that camera out of here. - Okay, okay.
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Just one, please! - Be about your business.
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- [Jessie] Were you the sheriff in 1990?
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I recognized your face
from, from the news reports.
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(rain pattering) (gentle acoustic music)
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โช Easy, easy, let me down easy โช
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โช Don't wanna be one of those girls โช
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โช That gives you a hard time โช
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- So we are just assimilating data.
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And it is high summer here in Mitchin,
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but it is raining outside
and it is coming down.
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(rain pattering)
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There's usually drought
at this time of year,
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as if that doesn't need
to add to the amount
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of weird things going on here in Mitchin.
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Anyway, I better get back
to Jesse, left her on her own.
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(rain pattering)
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- [Jessie] Other than
the unsuccessful visit
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to the law enforcement,
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my first interviewee is Maisie Winters.
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She was reluctant to interview at first.
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She was the woman who
survived an attack four years ago,
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and it was the case that
vindicated Bruce Herber.
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- [Thomas] Hi, Maisie,
thank you for coming.
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- No problem.
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- [Thomas] Do you want a cigarette?
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- Thank you, yeah.
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- [Jessie] She managed to
break away from the killer
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and run down the hills to the town.
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Eyewitnesses stated that
she screamed for help.
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She survived the boogeyman,
but not without scars,
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both physical and mental.
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(foreboding ominous music)
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- So what do you wanna know?
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- [Thomas] Well, let's
start with the basics.
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That night, what happened back in 1990?
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- Okay, so it was April 30th, 1990.
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I was working at this bar, Mazers,
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you know the one on the stretch?
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- Yeah, I know Mazers. - Yeah.
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- [Thomas] It's still here,
right? (Maisie chuckles)
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- It sure is.
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- [Jessie] Mazers is a drinking joint close
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to the strip where the main shops
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and amenities are located in the town.
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Some people find it bizarre
that the attacker was so close
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to the population when he attacked.
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- So I was working at Mazers part-time,
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collecting glasses,
waiting tables, you know,
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the usual shit to save money for college.
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And this one particular night,
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these guys were buying me
tequila as a way of thanking me.
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And I mean, this wasn't the
first time this had happened,
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and I'm used to rowdy folks.
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So I got a little drunk
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and I went out back to have a cigarette.
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And you know how the
main stretch backs onto the,
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onto the hills, the ridge?
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- Yeah, okay. - All of a sudden
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I-I sort of felt this uh,
like this cold, and I've...
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(ominous music)
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- [Thomas] Hey, Maisie,
you're doing really well.
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If you wanna stop, that's-
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- No, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine.
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I just, I just haven't
really spoken about it
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since the cops and everything, so um.
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So, so I felt this cold,
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like this cold presence,
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like when you know someone's there.
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- Yeah, I think so.
- And, and all of a sudden
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th-there was a hand over my mouth.
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And I just started getting
dragged straight up this hill.
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And I mean, like, straight up.
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I mean, I-I struggled,
but he was, like, strong,
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like really strong, like,
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like, superman or some shit.
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And he dragged me for a while.
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I-I couldn't tell you how long.
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And then, and then we were in the woods.
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(ominous music)
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And, and then he started
to whisper in my ear,
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"You've been a bad girl.
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You've been a very bad
girl, you need to be punished.
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You need to be cleansed of your sins."
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And then he started to claw
at my shoulder really hard
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and his fingernails were really weird.
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And, and then I could feel him reaching
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for something in his pocket.
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And me all revved up, you know, like,
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I-I'd heard what had
happened to the other one.
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So I-I just reached for
this, this log to my left,
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and I just swung it, you know,
I just kept fucking swinging.
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A-and then I-I heard this
squeal and then I was free.
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And so I just started running,
not back into the woods,
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fucking don't what's in there, you know?
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So I started like, running down the ridge.
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And, and I just started screaming,
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you know, like, please help me.
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- [Thomas] Maisie, can
I ask you a question?
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- Sure.
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- [Thomas] The guys at the bar, do you,
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do you think they had
anything to do with this?
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- I don't think so.
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'Cause when I got down
the bottom of the ridge,
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they were still at the bar, you know?
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And, and they helped me.
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They called the cops, they were questioned
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and they were cleared.
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And, and they did bloods and
DNA and shit and everything.
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A-a-and they couldn't find a match.
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And not even that weirdo
in the woods was a match.
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- [[Thomas] Do you mean Bruce Herber?
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Do you think he had anything to do with it?
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- I don't know, I don't know, dude.
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Nobody knows.
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All I know is that I was supposed to be
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at college at Drake's that year end.
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Instead, I spent three years
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just paralyzed by fear. (scoffs)
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(ominous music)
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The boogeyman.
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- What do you mean?
- That's what they call him.
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'Cause he's here to
cleanse you of your sins.
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- [Thomas] Do you think
that's what the killer wants?
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Some sort of twisted retribution?
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- I don't know, I don't know.
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We've all sinned, right?
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It's weird, but when he spoke
to me, it's like he knew me.
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It's like he knew every
bad thing I'd ever done.
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Weird.
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- [Jessie] Maisie Winters had
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a relatively affluent upbringing right here
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in the town of Mitchin.
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Her parents are still together,
she was popular at school.
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She was what seems to be a healthy kid
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in small town America.
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I asked her if she knew of any grudges,
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perhaps somebody was jealous
or resentful of her existence.
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Perhaps the attacks are
not opportunistic or random.
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She could think of no one.
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Thomas was left a little perplexed
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by the conversation with Maisie.
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We knew that we would
have to speak to her again,
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but I thought I would
give her a little break
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so she didn't get too upset.
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We agreed to resume in a couple of days.
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(sad cello music)
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I managed to set up an interview
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with Sarah O'Reilly, the other survivor.
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Sarah suffered a similar
experience to Maisie.
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She was dragged up the hill,
but there was a strange twist.
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(bright guitar music)
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(energetic rock music)
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- [Thomas] Make yourself
comfortable, it's all good.
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- So uh, like, are we
gonna be on, like, TV or?
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(Thomas chuckles)
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- [Thomas] I'm not
sure yet, but I'll be sure
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to get your permission
for any distribution.
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Thank you so much for coming.
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- Yeah. - I really appreciate it.
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- Yeah, of course.
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No, it's, yeah, it's, it's cool actually.
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I've done a, I've done a lot of interviews
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about this already, but
yeah, nothing televised.
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- [Thomas] Okay, cool,
well, let's jump straight in.
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I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions
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about what happened that night,
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the night of the kidnapping, you know?
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- Mm-hmm.
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(ominous music)
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Yeah, I was at the bar.
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I don't know if you know it, Mazers.
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- Mazers? - Yeah, yeah.
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I went outside for a cigarette
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and also to get away from Dobey Coleman
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trying to put his fat
fingers on my ass every five.
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Not that he has anything
to do with the murders.
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He's just your average local town idiot.
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You can ask Maisie that, she'll confirm.
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He is completely harmless.
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- [Thomas] How are you and Maisie close?
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- I wouldn't go that far.
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I mean, we hung out,
like a bit, after the event.
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You know, it gives you a bond, you know?
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But uh, yeah, she got really freaked out,
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like, about the whole thing,
and well, she still is, right?
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She's, I don't know, traumatized
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or, you know, and I-I-I kept telling her,
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he is just some hillbilly loon,
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you know, don't get nightmares.
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But she wasn't having any of it,
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especially after that the guy died.
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- [Thomas] Yeah, yeah, that's bad.
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So back to that night.
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- Oh, yes, yeah. (chuckles)
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So yeah, the night, well, some asshole
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dragged me way on up the hill.
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And with such strength, I-I like,
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I kept trying to, like,
pull him off me and,
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and well, no way, bro.
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You know, at first, like, I
thought that was a joke,
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but then like, he, he was really hurting.
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And yeah, he was, like, pulling
at my hair and, (chuckles)
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and well, I struggled,
but I-I remember being
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on top of the hill and, and thinking,
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well, this is the moment
when I die. (chuckles)
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Yeah, and then um, yeah,
then a gunshot went off
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to the right of us, you know, bang!
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And, and well, the loon, he
must have ran into the woods
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behind me, and I couldn't
see anyone with a shotgun.
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So I, I just scrambled
all the way down the hill
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into Mazers, and I told
Dobey and the others,
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and yeah, they went and scanned the area.
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And they scanned, they didn't find nothing.
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You know, and then, then the cops came.
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(police siren wailing)
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Not, not even a footprint.
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- [Thomas] Do you think Bruce Herber
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had anything to do with this?
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- Probably not.
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I-I kind of feel sorry for him.
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Yeah, anyway, so I've
gotta go pick up my mom.
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Are we gonna get a copy of this tape?
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- I'd love... Yeah, of course, of course.
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- Yeah? - Do you think we might get
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a chance to speak to you
again if we, if we need to?
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- Oh, uh, I don't know, maybe, yeah.
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We'll, let me just see how,
see how it goes, you know?
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You can send me the tape
and then we'll see. (chuckles)
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- [Thomas] Okay, sure thing.
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We'll make sure we get it to you.
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- Yeah, awesome. - No problem.
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- Thanks, it was nice to meet you.
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- [Thomas] Thank you, nice to meet you too.
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Thank you so much for coming.
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(soft rock music)
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- [Jessie] Sarah O'Reilly,
the aspiring actress.
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She had upbringing not
too dissimilar from Maisie.
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In fact, they went to the same high school.
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Sarah is from the outskirts of the town,
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a section not known for affluence.
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It looks as though this
killer did not discriminate.
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She told us she used to drown out the noise
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of her parents arguing by
playing rock music on her stereo.
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They divorced when she hit her early teens.
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She had always wanted to
be on stage, on a platform,
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ever since she was a child.
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She was prominent in
school plays and film projects.
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She also finds it hard to
think of any low key enemies.
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Dobey Coleman is the local town idiot.
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He's still alive, but has since
refused to be interviewed.
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When talking to Sarah
O'Reilly and Maisie Winters,
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they both had similar experiences,
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but completely different outlooks.
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On the one hand, Maisie seems to have
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a lot of trauma from the experience.
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She seems moved, emotional.
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Sarah seems detached
from it, using the interview
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as a potential platform
for an entertainment career
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she told me she's looking to get into.
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Another thing crossed my mind.
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Sarah O'Reilly mentioned a gunshot
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(gunfire booms)
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up on the hill, which
seemed to save her life.
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I wondered who it could be.
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It made me think one way
or another I needed to try
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and interview the guy that
everyone was talking about.
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The one they suspected to be the boogeyman.
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Bruce Herber on the hill.
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(tense music)
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We couldn't seem to
get a number for the guy,
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or anybody who did have a
number would not give it to us.
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So we took matters into our own hands.
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(tense music)
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Mr. Herber?
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(tense music)
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Mr. Herber, we're doing
a piece on the murders
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and we wondered if we could
just have a minute of your time.
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- I'm not interested.
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And you shouldn't be up here anyways.
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Go back down the hill, girl.
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- [Jessie] Please, Mr. Herber,
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it will just take a minute of your time
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and it could give you a
chance to clear your name.
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- Go back down the hill.
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- [Jessie] He was not receptive
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and still declined to speak with us,
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but a week later we received a call.
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He said he would talk to us,
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but stressed that it had to be brief
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and that he was only
doing it to clear his name.
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It seems that everybody is
aware of this documentary now.
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Having said that, I am surprised
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that more people have not come forward.
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- [Thomas] Hi, Bruce, thanks
so much for taking the call.
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We will keep it as brief as possible.
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- [Bruce] Okay.
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- [Thomas] No doubt that you've heard
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about the boogeyman mystery,
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and that is why you're
looking to clear your name.
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Many think that you may be a suspect,
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but others think differently.
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- [Bruce] I'm not no boogieman, okay?
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I'm, I haven't touched or killed anyone.
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- [Thomas] Bruce, we
completely understand that.
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And sorry to offend, as said,
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a lot of people think differently of you.
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They say you're a good character.
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Do you remember a girl by
the name of Sarah O'Reilly?
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- [Bruce] That's a girl who
got dragged up the hill.
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Yeah, I remember her.
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00:20:58,528 --> 00:21:01,668
I, oh, look, I-I-I really
have to go now, I-
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- [Thomas] Mr. Herber, thank you so much.
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This helps a lot.
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If I can ask you one
question before you leave,
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what do you think of
the latest developments,
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the new attacks?
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Do you think it's the same person?
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- [Bruce] I-I don't know, and I,
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I don't wanna be involved in it.
448
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,938
As I said, I only came
here to clear my name
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of the shit before you start poking around.
450
00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:27,409
Seems like you have more
investigating to do son.
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(phone clicks)
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(phone beeping)
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- [Jessie] Thomas had a
strange phone call with Bruce.
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He was understandably pensive and defensive
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and didn't give much away.
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Would I say that he's a suspect?
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I'm not sure, but something
tells me probably not.
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(pensive music)
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The next interview on
my list would be the police.
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But we have had no positive
correspondence from them.
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In fact, they have told us to butt out.
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00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:03,018
The next option I thought
would be to interview relatives
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of the most recent
murder, Rochelle Hardmann.
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We managed to get her brother to speak.
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He did this on the pretext
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that people may come
forward to help with the case.
467
00:22:13,786 --> 00:22:15,348
Hi, everyone, so I just thought
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I'd do a quick apartment tour for you all.
469
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,488
Just got here to Mitchin
and just met the landlord.
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He's really weird, but the
apartment's really cool.
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Like, we've got some artwork over here,
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and oh, this is my favorite one.
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00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:29,268
Ready?
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Americana! (chuckles)
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- [Thomas] So you pick
the drive over here okay?
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00:22:36,631 --> 00:22:38,508
- I know this place very well.
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00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:39,858
I was quite fine, thank you,
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00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:40,920
thank you. - This place is
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a bitch to find though, it
took me ages. (chuckles)
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00:22:42,990 --> 00:22:44,640
- Thank you very much for asking.
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And these, this is great.
482
00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:48,708
So you make, this is, I feel,
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I feel like a film star right now.
484
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,968
- Yeah, yeah, well,
yeah, we got a nice setup.
485
00:22:53,010 --> 00:22:55,788
You just needs on sound,
just taking care of everything.
486
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:57,468
You okay with those bikes?
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Yeah?
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00:22:59,190 --> 00:23:00,138
Okay, cool.
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We good to go?
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Great.
491
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(ominous music)
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So Mr. Hardmann, thank
you so much for coming today.
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We really appreciate it.
494
00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:15,888
- No problem. - Mr. Hardmann, when-
495
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- Drayse, please call me Drayse.
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- [Thomas] Drayse, okay, sorry.
497
00:23:21,570 --> 00:23:25,173
With regards to your sister,
our deepest condolences,
498
00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:27,858
when liaising with the cops
499
00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:30,351
or any other information on the case,
500
00:23:30,393 --> 00:23:32,208
have you found that you've got any close
501
00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:33,738
to finding who may have done this?
502
00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:36,730
And do you think that it's
connected to the murders at all?
503
00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:41,763
- Oh, shit, that is some intense question.
504
00:23:43,513 --> 00:23:45,763
I would say it looks
like the other attached.
505
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,460
I don't even wanna think about it,
506
00:23:51,002 --> 00:23:54,048
but the cops aren't really
sure what's going on.
507
00:23:54,090 --> 00:23:57,213
Ridge was, was steeped in
mystery anyway, you know?
508
00:23:58,500 --> 00:23:59,898
- [Thomas] Okay, so you, you don't think
509
00:23:59,940 --> 00:24:01,848
that the cops really have any leads?
510
00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:05,418
- Well, they had that one old weird guy,
511
00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:08,043
but they don't really know if he did it.
512
00:24:09,023 --> 00:24:11,568
To be honest, I don't think
he had anything to do with it.
513
00:24:11,610 --> 00:24:13,878
- You don't? - Well, if I did,
514
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,848
I would've fucking done
something by now, wouldn't I?
515
00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:21,768
That's a fucking sure,
but he's still everywhere.
516
00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:24,834
I mean, he's parasite.
517
00:24:24,876 --> 00:24:27,078
(gentle music)
518
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,696
But no, I don't think he did it.
519
00:24:30,738 --> 00:24:32,778
(gentle sad music)
520
00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:34,623
I don't think he's capable.
521
00:24:34,665 --> 00:24:37,142
(gentle pensive music)
522
00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:38,868
- [Thomas] Drayse, do you mind
523
00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:40,668
if I pick your brain for a while?
524
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:45,468
There seems to be sort of
a, about this town of lives hell
525
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:48,663
or more of an urban
legend about the boogeyman.
526
00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:51,768
Is this something that you know about?
527
00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:53,148
You know, people seem to think
528
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:55,548
that it's already been
here, that it's supernatural.
529
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:56,778
Do you know anything about this?
530
00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:59,221
- That shit ain't real.
531
00:24:59,263 --> 00:25:00,558
I mean, the old girls used
532
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,311
to hop on about that all the time.
533
00:25:02,353 --> 00:25:04,668
I mean, my Aunt Clara used to say when,
534
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:07,495
when I was playing up, she used to say,
535
00:25:07,537 --> 00:25:12,138
"Stop messing around or
the boogeyman will get you.
536
00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:15,168
He will punish you for your sins."
537
00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:17,508
- [Thomas] Shit, punish you for your sins?
538
00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:20,268
Is your Aunt Clara still alive now?
539
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:21,408
- No.
540
00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:23,043
She's also dead.
541
00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:27,266
But if you did wanna talk
to some of the old girls
542
00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:30,438
who believe that shit,
you could try the old girls
543
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,198
down the Great Cafe on Broad Street.
544
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,088
Ask for Jennifer.
545
00:25:35,130 --> 00:25:36,108
- [Thomas] Jennifer on Broad Street.
546
00:25:36,150 --> 00:25:37,941
Thank you, Drayse, it's really helpful.
547
00:25:37,983 --> 00:25:39,543
- This shit ain't true though.
548
00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:42,918
They're just messing
around all fucking crazy
549
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,313
when they say that shit.
550
00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:47,778
Maisie Winters' in the crew.
551
00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:49,938
I mean, they used to get freaked out
552
00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:52,023
by this stuff before the killings.
553
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:56,298
You know, going on
about the, the boogeyman.
554
00:25:56,340 --> 00:26:00,093
They spent one Halloween
camped up on that ridge.
555
00:26:01,015 --> 00:26:03,318
Oh, yeah, you know,
our school was a pretty,
556
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,433
a pretty fucking boring place.
557
00:26:07,260 --> 00:26:09,184
I used to play football though.
558
00:26:09,226 --> 00:26:11,088
(gentle pensive music)
559
00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:14,343
- Oh, nice, nice. - First pick.
560
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,344
Line back.
561
00:26:16,386 --> 00:26:18,438
(gentle pensive music)
562
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,178
- [Thomas] Thank you,
Drayse, um, for coming in.
563
00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:21,378
We really appreciate it.
564
00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:22,908
If we need to contact you again,
565
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:26,148
can we, if that's okay with you?
566
00:26:26,190 --> 00:26:27,891
- Sure, it's okay,
567
00:26:27,933 --> 00:26:29,754
(gentle pensive music)
568
00:26:29,796 --> 00:26:31,203
but try not to.
569
00:26:31,245 --> 00:26:33,648
(gentle sad music)
570
00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:37,023
I've already spent so
much of my time on this,
571
00:26:37,065 --> 00:26:39,075
(gentle sad music)
572
00:26:39,117 --> 00:26:41,073
and time is everything, you know?
573
00:26:42,289 --> 00:26:45,168
(gentle sad music)
574
00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:47,110
I sure hope somebody comes forward
575
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,493
once this shit gets shown.
576
00:26:51,493 --> 00:26:54,410
(gentle sad music)
577
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,313
I really do.
578
00:26:57,214 --> 00:27:00,138
(gentle sad music)
579
00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:02,543
- [Thomas] Thank you so
much, Drayse, we appreciate it.
580
00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:08,388
- [Jessie] Drayse's
interview was interesting.
581
00:27:08,430 --> 00:27:11,448
He was understandably
in some form of grief,
582
00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:12,618
trying to work his way out
583
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:14,973
of what has undoubtedly
been a difficult time.
584
00:27:15,930 --> 00:27:18,558
What he said about the
boogeyman myth seemed to tie in
585
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,928
with what Maisie Winters mentioned.
586
00:27:20,970 --> 00:27:23,328
The idea of somebody punishing the wicked,
587
00:27:23,370 --> 00:27:27,153
cleansing their soul, an
urban legend, if you will.
588
00:27:28,770 --> 00:27:30,648
My mind wandered.
589
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:33,318
The bodies were so accessible when killed,
590
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,648
the murderer didn't even
seem to try and hide the bodies.
591
00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:39,678
It's as if they wanted people to find them.
592
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,438
This is something more
akin to wild animals,
593
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,183
but Maisie's account
clearly states it is human.
594
00:27:49,290 --> 00:27:54,290
- Hey, so, um, today is my
last day on, um, boogeyman.
595
00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:04,730
Jesse and I, back in
college, we, we were an item
596
00:28:08,926 --> 00:28:10,308
and I did some things I regretted.
597
00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:12,858
And we were hoping that
working on this together,
598
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,138
we could come back together as, as a pair.
599
00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:19,278
But if anything it's, it's
just made things worse
600
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,943
with the stress and everything
that's been happening.
601
00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:26,778
We seem to have very different viewpoints
602
00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:30,438
on what is going on and the risks involved.
603
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,278
- [Jessie] I think we have to,
604
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,868
we, we have to check it out for ourselves.
605
00:28:32,910 --> 00:28:35,628
- Negative, it's gonna
be crawling with cops.
606
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:38,958
- [Jessie] Oh yeah, but I-I
was thinking we could sneak in.
607
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,793
You know, I'm, I don't know.
608
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:44,733
Come on, what are we doing this for?
609
00:28:46,895 --> 00:28:47,686
- I don't know, Jesse.
610
00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:50,418
Honestly, I don't even
fucking know sometimes.
611
00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:52,083
This is some fucked up shit.
612
00:28:53,070 --> 00:28:56,373
So today I'm afraid it's becoming too much.
613
00:28:58,786 --> 00:29:00,078
And I will be leaving the documentary
614
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,818
from this point forward.
615
00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:04,308
- [Jessie] Come on, remember
what we're doing here?
616
00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:05,688
Documentaries that tell the truth,
617
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:07,728
documentaries that change things.
618
00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:09,213
We have to take the risk.
619
00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:13,380
Listen, if you're not into this-
620
00:29:13,422 --> 00:29:16,068
- Don't, don't give me that
621
00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:18,498
not into this routine shit, okay?
622
00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:20,493
I've put as much into this as you have.
623
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:25,113
I mean, okay, fine, we'll go, just,
624
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:29,602
just make sure it's water tight.
625
00:29:29,644 --> 00:29:31,698
(gentle acoustic music)
626
00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:33,378
- Hi, everyone.
627
00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:37,143
I have a little, little update for you.
628
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,998
Thomas will no longer be
working with me on this piece.
629
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,628
We had several disagreements
over things like location
630
00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:47,178
of the filming and the
danger that it, that it brings.
631
00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:48,498
- Dude, you dragged me out here.
632
00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:51,018
You, it's in the middle of fucking nowhere.
633
00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:52,368
You want us, (chuckles)
634
00:29:52,410 --> 00:29:54,528
you want us to be searching
down this wild goose chase
635
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:56,058
for a hunt that's some fantasy
636
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:56,891
that you... A fantasy?
637
00:29:56,933 --> 00:29:57,941
- Made up in your head. - You're the one
638
00:29:57,983 --> 00:29:59,326
that told me about it.
639
00:29:59,368 --> 00:30:02,418
Yeah, he's, he's decided not to go ahead,
640
00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:04,675
just not to go ahead and to leave, um,
641
00:30:04,717 --> 00:30:06,203
and to leave and go back home,
642
00:30:07,077 --> 00:30:11,448
which honestly, I, I'm
not totally surprised by.
643
00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:12,408
We, we weren't getting along.
644
00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:14,346
Sneak in at my fault. - Do you understand
645
00:30:14,388 --> 00:30:16,778
what you're doing if you get caught?
646
00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:18,408
Do you understand?
647
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,100
It can affect your employability.
648
00:30:20,951 --> 00:30:25,608
- He, he, he slept with someone else
649
00:30:25,650 --> 00:30:26,778
over, over a year ago.
650
00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:28,848
But I, I don't think I realized just
651
00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:30,738
how damaging it was for the relationship.
652
00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:33,430
And we weren't working
together the way we should be.
653
00:30:34,410 --> 00:30:37,248
So I, I wish him all the best, I really do.
654
00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:38,878
I wish him all the best.
655
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,853
And I'm gonna be alone from here on out,
656
00:30:42,930 --> 00:30:46,203
do the interviews by
myself, try and find this thing.
657
00:30:47,709 --> 00:30:50,508
โช Sleep well till the moon โช
658
00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:53,710
- It's just becoming too much.
659
00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:56,479
โช Sleep well โช
660
00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:59,568
- So with that in mind,
661
00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:03,198
I am reluctantly stepping aside
662
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,483
and will be leaving boogeyman.
663
00:31:13,223 --> 00:31:15,258
- And for the purpose of the documentary,
664
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:17,268
I would like to talk
about the surrounding hills
665
00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:20,869
that surround the small town
of Mitchin, Arlin County, Iowa.
666
00:31:20,911 --> 00:31:22,818
(bright acoustic music)
667
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,188
They overlook the town on two sides,
668
00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:29,268
actually to the east of
the town and to the west.
669
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:30,633
So the town is in a bowl.
670
00:31:31,650 --> 00:31:33,663
The hills look like one long ridge,
671
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:36,918
each that gets steeper as you go up them.
672
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,243
And they are full of
dense woodland and bush.
673
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,408
They used to be a prime
spot for cougar hunters,
674
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:44,454
which are now likely extinct up on those.
675
00:31:44,496 --> 00:31:45,708
(bright acoustic music)
676
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:48,678
When you reach the top,
they plateau into flat woodland
677
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,148
and are surprisingly large
678
00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:52,173
like squares and squares of miles.
679
00:31:53,010 --> 00:31:56,448
Really easy for people to
hang out and even live up there.
680
00:31:56,490 --> 00:31:59,118
The hills have a longer
descent on the other side
681
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,720
and they have heavy woodland there.
682
00:32:00,762 --> 00:32:03,078
(bright acoustic music)
683
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,058
The attacks took place
on the western portion
684
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,638
of these hills, which
happen to be the largest
685
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,308
and the most dense of the hilly areas.
686
00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:12,858
There were many crater
type holes at the top.
687
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,298
And because of these new attacks,
688
00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:17,748
a lot of it is cordoned off
by the police as discussed.
689
00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:20,298
Last time, the police and
the FBI scoured the area
690
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:22,038
trying to find evidence,
691
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,453
but did not seem to find anything.
692
00:32:24,495 --> 00:32:27,162
(ominous music)
693
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,611
- Okay, viewers, it's Jesse
here. I made it to the hill,
694
00:32:33,653 --> 00:32:35,928
but we're not really supposed to be here.
695
00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:38,688
I just, I think it's essential
for the documentary.
696
00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:40,608
I'm gonna try and keep the
camera as steady as I can,
697
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:42,899
but it's pretty steep.
698
00:32:42,941 --> 00:32:44,538
(footsteps crunching)
699
00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:45,551
I'm also gonna try and keep my voice down
700
00:32:45,593 --> 00:32:48,344
because the cops could
come back here at any time.
701
00:32:48,386 --> 00:32:49,338
(footsteps crunching)
702
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:52,503
Okay, okay, what's that?
703
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,263
It looks like, is that police tape?
704
00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:04,325
Maybe this is where the last murder was.
705
00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:06,018
(object banging)
706
00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:08,598
Oh, my god, oh, my God, oh, my God.
707
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,473
What was that?
708
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,718
Okay, there's some weird
noises coming from the ridge.
709
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,582
I'm just gonna, I'm gonna keep
my voice down and get here.
710
00:33:17,624 --> 00:33:19,363
Okay, go, let's go.
711
00:33:19,405 --> 00:33:22,572
(footsteps crunching)
712
00:33:27,783 --> 00:33:31,211
(electric guitar music)
713
00:33:31,253 --> 00:33:32,268
The trip to the west side
714
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:35,103
of the ridges was an unmitigated disaster.
715
00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:38,658
It was as if we were
getting close to something,
716
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:41,943
something important,
but got spooked by a noise.
717
00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:44,598
There is definitely something up there
718
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,198
worth checking out for
this doc, and for answers.
719
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,078
For now, we need to
get back to the interviews
720
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,938
and dig deep into them.
721
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:55,458
Ladies and gentlemen, this is our landlord.
722
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,258
He seems to come over whenever he wants,
723
00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,418
even when we're not in.
724
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:01,488
- I needed to fix the pipe.
725
00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:03,078
- [Jessie] He needed to fix the pipe,
726
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,108
ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Mitchin.
727
00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:08,373
- Is that thing on? - What th-the camera?
728
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:11,043
Yes, yes it is, I'm recording you.
729
00:34:12,189 --> 00:34:13,407
Where are you going?
730
00:34:13,449 --> 00:34:14,980
(door latch clicks) (door thuds)
731
00:34:15,022 --> 00:34:16,911
My God, he's so weird.
732
00:34:16,953 --> 00:34:20,120
(gentle guitar music)
733
00:34:32,669 --> 00:34:35,688
(people chattering)
734
00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:38,178
Excuse me, I'm, I'm looking for Jennifer.
735
00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:40,698
- And who might you be?
- My name is Jessie Heigel.
736
00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:41,531
I'm making a documentary
737
00:34:41,573 --> 00:34:43,308
about the recent activity here in Mitchin.
738
00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:44,717
- That's one of those kids, the weird one
739
00:34:45,193 --> 00:34:46,248
that everyone's talking about.
740
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:47,628
- What do you want with me?
741
00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:49,159
- [Jessie] Ma'am, we were sent by Drayse,
742
00:34:49,201 --> 00:34:51,108
Drayson Hardmann, the brother of Rochelle.
743
00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:52,298
He said you may be able to shed some light
744
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,078
in the midst and legends of the boogeyman.
745
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,208
You know the, the
superstitions that this town has
746
00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:58,248
and help me relate to the (speaks faintly).
747
00:34:58,290 --> 00:35:00,918
- See, young lady, this
town's always been strange.
748
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,368
- Yeah. - But it's our town.
749
00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:04,068
- Yeah. - So when some weird kid
750
00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:06,078
from out of town is butting her nose in,
751
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,698
we're gonna be defensive.
752
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:08,898
- I-I understand. - Having said that,
753
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:09,858
there hasn't been enough coverage
754
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,198
of this case at all.
- Yep, yep, that is right.
755
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:13,031
That is right. - People are too worried
756
00:35:13,073 --> 00:35:15,978
about that damn OJ Simpson and Los Angeles
757
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:18,078
and all that crap to give us any attention.
758
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,088
- He definitely,
definitely did it, you know?
759
00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:22,098
- [Jessie] Oh, so, so
you would say that there's
760
00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:24,018
a legend in this town about the boogeyman?
761
00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:26,718
- Oh, someone say it's
real, not made up at all.
762
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,938
- [Jessie] So you would say
there's something tangible then,
763
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:30,924
something real?
764
00:35:30,966 --> 00:35:33,978
- Look at you hiding
behind the camera there.
765
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:35,778
You can ask anyone in this town.
766
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:37,218
- Are you ladies all okay?
767
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,093
- Yes, thanks.
768
00:35:39,368 --> 00:35:40,788
And they'll tell you.
769
00:35:40,830 --> 00:35:43,625
Our parents, their parents will say to us,
770
00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:46,481
if you are naughty,
boogeyman's gonna get you.
771
00:35:46,523 --> 00:35:49,673
And I don't know any other
town where they say that.
772
00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:50,688
- Nope, only here. - And I know people
773
00:35:50,730 --> 00:35:52,068
across all the town. - That's right.
774
00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:53,718
Only in the hills.
775
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,308
- The hills have always been strange.
776
00:35:55,350 --> 00:35:56,733
Very strange place.
777
00:35:57,606 --> 00:35:59,328
I think the general consensus, general idea
778
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:03,146
is that something on those
ridges has always been there.
779
00:36:03,188 --> 00:36:03,979
And that's the boogeyman.
780
00:36:04,021 --> 00:36:05,572
- [Jessie] That is, that is strange.
781
00:36:05,614 --> 00:36:07,818
- Well, I mean, people
don't go up there to this day.
782
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:08,943
That's a fact.
783
00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:12,004
Young generation think it's all bull crap.
784
00:36:12,046 --> 00:36:13,458
But if you've done your homework.
785
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:16,038
- My homework? - Yes, homework, dear.
786
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,708
The killings way back when.
787
00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:20,358
I think you need to get to the library.
788
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,248
Oh, and by the way, the
cops, the cops, the FBI,
789
00:36:24,290 --> 00:36:26,538
they've had everything up there, honey.
790
00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:29,088
And nobody found anything.
791
00:36:29,130 --> 00:36:30,918
- Nope, it's supernatural.
792
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,228
- It's supernatural.
793
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:36,108
That's right, thank you, Colleen.
794
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,298
Think of the marks on the victims.
795
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:40,070
And that ain't human.
796
00:36:40,112 --> 00:36:42,430
Here to cleanse our sins,
797
00:36:42,472 --> 00:36:45,498
but we are naive. - Cleanse our sins.
798
00:36:45,540 --> 00:36:46,833
- Mostly women so far.
799
00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:49,548
I don't seem to care about men get up.
800
00:36:49,590 --> 00:36:50,628
- Cleanse our sins, that's right.
801
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:52,248
That's what my gramps used to say.
802
00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:54,468
- And we all know about
since Sarah O'Reilly-
803
00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:57,558
- Oh, Jennifer, no, don't!
- Sarah O, sorry,
804
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,272
what do you mean by that?
805
00:36:59,314 --> 00:37:00,108
- About what?
806
00:37:00,150 --> 00:37:02,058
- [Jessie] About Sarah
O'Reilly and, and her sins.
807
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,783
- Oh, nothing, don't mind me.
808
00:37:04,825 --> 00:37:06,231
Okay, I didn't say anything.
809
00:37:06,273 --> 00:37:07,458
- [Jessie] What do you think about it?
810
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,158
Excuse me, um, Kandy,
is that, is that your name?
811
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,423
- I don't know. - You don't know?
812
00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:16,189
- Stop trying to get me involved.
813
00:37:16,231 --> 00:37:19,524
- Oh, come on, you know it, right?
814
00:37:19,566 --> 00:37:21,228
Oh, can I take a piece of apple pie?
815
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:22,534
Thanks, Candy.
816
00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:24,888
(people chattering)
817
00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:25,725
- [Jessie] Really, thank you so much.
818
00:37:25,767 --> 00:37:28,488
- But I hope we've been some assistance.
819
00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:30,078
I mean that.
820
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,728
Hey, if you want a real ride,
821
00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:33,828
you should try the lady.
822
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:35,403
Fortune teller Mystic Hannah,
823
00:37:36,270 --> 00:37:38,838
she'll tell you some real crazy theories.
824
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,918
- Yeah, she's down by the garage.
825
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,885
She has a, yeah,
826
00:37:40,927 --> 00:37:44,748
she has a weird old practice
down by the garage. (laughs)
827
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:46,746
Go see her if you want a good job.
828
00:37:46,788 --> 00:37:48,738
- [Jessie] Okay, I, well,
thank you ladies so much
829
00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:51,648
for your time, I just
have one last question.
830
00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:54,416
Are you scared at all of the boogeyman?
831
00:37:54,458 --> 00:37:56,828
You know, that he might come after you.
832
00:37:56,870 --> 00:38:01,578
- Honey, when you get to my
age, nothing scares you anymore.
833
00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:05,977
So many sins, they'd have
to kill me three times over.
834
00:38:06,019 --> 00:38:11,019
(both laugh) (people chattering)
835
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:12,738
- [Jessie] Meeting the ladies in the cafe
836
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:14,898
shed some new light on
what the town's perception was
837
00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:16,578
in regards to the boogeyman.
838
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:18,798
It also tied in with
what Maisie Winters said,
839
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,478
and that voice that spoke to her.
840
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,948
This idea that the boogeyman is here
841
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:25,398
in this town should
cleanse sins via punishment.
842
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,218
I decided to interview
passers by in the town
843
00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:28,998
to try and get an idea of what they thought
844
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,706
the boogeyman was to them.
845
00:38:30,748 --> 00:38:33,138
- Yeah, well, that's
probably what's killing them,
846
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,878
that or a cougar.
847
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,518
My mom used to say to
me when I was younger,
848
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,915
be a good girl or the boogeyman-
849
00:38:38,957 --> 00:38:40,728
- [Jessie] Or the boogeyman
will come and get you.
850
00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:43,368
- Yeah, exactly, the boogeyman.
851
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:44,958
- If you are a bad girl, you know?
852
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,458
- [Jessie] The, the boogeyman will get you.
853
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:48,825
- Yeah, exactly, the
boogeyman will get you.
854
00:38:48,867 --> 00:38:51,558
- But you only hear that
in Mitchin or maybe nearby.
855
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,968
But I don't think so,
856
00:38:53,010 --> 00:38:55,728
or just like, a Yeti.
857
00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:57,288
- I mean this town's always had a lot
858
00:38:57,330 --> 00:39:00,408
of crazy things going on,
you know, over the years.
859
00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:01,968
We call it the boogeyman.
860
00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:05,328
- That's probably what's
killing everyone around here.
861
00:39:05,370 --> 00:39:10,370
That or the cougars.
862
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,068
- Weird shit happens there.
863
00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:14,688
You should get out while you can.
864
00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:15,521
- It's freaking me out.
865
00:39:15,563 --> 00:39:16,758
It freaks a lot of people out
866
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,468
and we're all worried and we don't know.
867
00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:19,488
We don't know what's going on.
868
00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:20,778
We don't know who's doing it.
869
00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:22,428
- The ridges are weird.
870
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:24,756
They gotta Agent Orange that shit, man.
871
00:39:24,798 --> 00:39:25,589
(Amy laughs)
872
00:39:25,631 --> 00:39:26,422
- Yeah.
873
00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:28,668
- Don't laugh, I'm serious.
874
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:30,168
The town's weird.
875
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:32,538
You gotta get out, get out now.
876
00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:33,558
- When talking to the locals,
877
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,758
they seem to be quite well versed
878
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,948
on the boogeyman and its legend.
879
00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:38,718
Things I still need to do.
880
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,898
Find out what Jennifer meant
about Sarah O'Reilly's sins.
881
00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:44,088
Try and get an interview with the police.
882
00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:45,438
Go to the library.
883
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,538
Interview with Maisie Winters again,
884
00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:48,903
maybe not in that order.
885
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:52,218
Okay, viewers, just to give you a heads up,
886
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:55,293
I've been to the library and
I may have found something.
887
00:39:56,154 --> 00:39:58,818
In 1924, a woman was
attacked in the town of Mitchin,
888
00:39:58,860 --> 00:40:00,018
but she managed to flee.
889
00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:02,658
She had strange markings all over her body.
890
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,298
Some say were similar to raccoon bites.
891
00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:07,683
The attack happened here on the ridge.
892
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,688
Maybe I should tell the police about this.
893
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:13,680
It could help with their investigation.
894
00:40:15,078 --> 00:40:16,173
Oh, shit.
895
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:19,968
Another attack in 1905.
896
00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:22,403
Strange markings but there,
897
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,470
there doesn't seem to
be any other correlation.
898
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:30,104
Maybe it passed over.
899
00:40:30,146 --> 00:40:32,813
(door pounding)
900
00:40:33,738 --> 00:40:36,138
What the hell is, who the hell is that?
901
00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:38,180
Okay, I'm, I'm gonna find out who it is.
902
00:40:39,626 --> 00:40:40,946
(camera buzzing)
903
00:40:40,988 --> 00:40:43,286
(door latch clicks) (door hinge squeaks)
904
00:40:43,328 --> 00:40:44,224
- Can I come in?
905
00:40:44,266 --> 00:40:45,581
- Uh, Sarah, okay.
906
00:40:45,623 --> 00:40:47,680
Do you, do you mind if I film you?
907
00:40:47,722 --> 00:40:48,918
- No, I'm, no, I don't mind.
908
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,448
It's, yeah, yeah, I like it.
909
00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:51,438
You know, I wanna be in the movies.
910
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,590
- [Jessie] In the movies, yeah, you...
911
00:40:53,632 --> 00:40:56,178
(ominous music)
912
00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:58,818
- I was walking down
main street the other night,
913
00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:00,618
which should be cordoned off or,
914
00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:02,898
or there should be a curfew
or something, by the way.
915
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:04,158
And it was dark.
916
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,748
And I, fuck, I'm certain that
someone was following me.
917
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:09,935
Like, it was dark and I turned around
918
00:41:09,977 --> 00:41:13,008
and I, I'm sure that I saw a dark shadow.
919
00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:16,128
And then I went back to
my house and there was,
920
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:18,348
there was someone in my
yard and the dog's barking.
921
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:19,758
And I'm, fuck, I'm freaking out, guys.
922
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,095
Like, is this thing back or, I mean,
923
00:41:21,137 --> 00:41:23,478
'cause I feel like they've
come back to finish
924
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,621
what they didn't finish before.
925
00:41:24,663 --> 00:41:26,298
- [Jessie] I'm, I'm so sorry
926
00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:27,940
that you had to experience that.
927
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,908
There's, there's multiple
things it could be.
928
00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:35,874
- Oh, yeah, like one of
them being that I'm a nut job.
929
00:41:35,916 --> 00:41:38,028
- [Jessie] No, no, not at all.
930
00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:41,988
- I know I sound crazy,
but don't you think it's weird
931
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:43,630
that Kurt Cobain died this year?
932
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:47,028
- Kurt Cobain? - Yeah.
933
00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:48,948
Not, I mean, not a Nirvana fan.
934
00:41:48,990 --> 00:41:52,458
- I like hip hop.
- Life is fucking meaningless.
935
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,833
It's just, like, given and
then just fucking taken away.
936
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,018
- [Jessie] We actually, we
actually meant to contact you.
937
00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:01,158
We went down to the cafe.
938
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,228
And don't get offended when I say this,
939
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:04,990
but the ladies in there said that
940
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,718
you might be a sinful person.
941
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,008
Like, you might be a sinner or something.
942
00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:11,568
I mean, it was quite, it was quite funny
943
00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:13,868
when, when it happened at the time.
944
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:15,618
But, but do you know what
they may have meant by that?
945
00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:17,448
- Yeah, wow, those damn ladies.
946
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:20,748
Honestly, I mean, they've
got nothing else better
947
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:22,155
to do than just talk shit and,
948
00:42:22,197 --> 00:42:24,498
and drink coffee in that
fucking place all day.
949
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:25,818
I mean, yeah, I know what they're on about.
950
00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:27,798
You might as well know.
951
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,788
You know the musician guy who got killed?
952
00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:33,513
- Ben Holmes, right? - Yeah.
953
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:37,188
Well, I mean, yeah, they are correct,
954
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:40,038
it's not exactly relevant.
955
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,648
I used to go to Mazers a lot
956
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:43,698
and that's where he played guitar.
957
00:42:43,740 --> 00:42:45,648
So we started seeing
each other on the regular.
958
00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:47,140
- [Jessie] Seeing each other?
959
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,968
- Yeah, seeing each other, Jessie.
960
00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:51,948
Oh, do you want me to go into more?
961
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:53,058
- [Jessie] Oh, no, no, no, no.
962
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,158
Sorry, I-I understand.
963
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,500
Who else knows about this?
964
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,755
- I mean, everyone seems
to be talking about it.
965
00:42:59,797 --> 00:43:02,628
You know, I broke it
off before the killings,
966
00:43:02,670 --> 00:43:04,278
but everyone keeps looking at me
967
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,438
like I'm some fucking whore of the town.
968
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,543
- [Jessie] Can I ask why you broke it off?
969
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,297
- Yeah, you can, but I don't
like to speak ill of the dead.
970
00:43:15,339 --> 00:43:18,408
I mean, he's just, he's just
a regular musician schmuck,
971
00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:21,018
you know, if you think
that I was the only girl
972
00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:24,048
that he was with, you'd be wrong.
973
00:43:24,090 --> 00:43:26,958
I mean, he was with a list
of girls as long as my arm,
974
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,878
and he is not even, he's not even hot.
975
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,145
He's just from out of town and,
976
00:43:32,187 --> 00:43:33,918
and I know he's older, so like,
977
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,153
we all swooned when he played the guitar.
978
00:43:37,158 --> 00:43:39,453
And well, he, he could get us pot, so.
979
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:42,348
- [Jessie] Do you know
anyone else that he was seeing?
980
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:44,615
Like, personally or?
981
00:43:44,657 --> 00:43:46,938
- I don't, I-I'm, I mean, I don't know.
982
00:43:46,980 --> 00:43:48,738
Everything is Chinese whispers.
983
00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:51,018
Why do I feel like I'm being interrogated?
984
00:43:51,060 --> 00:43:52,793
- [Jessie] Oh, what makes you think that?
985
00:43:54,810 --> 00:43:55,968
- Oh, my God.
986
00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:58,758
You think, you think that I killed him?
987
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,988
You think that I'm... No!
988
00:44:00,030 --> 00:44:01,098
- You think that I'm one of the killers?
989
00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:02,120
- [Jessie] Sarah, I never said that.
990
00:44:02,162 --> 00:44:03,168
- Well, okay, I, wow.
991
00:44:03,210 --> 00:44:05,298
I need to get out of
here, you're fucking crazy.
992
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:06,828
Bitch, you know I had your back
993
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:09,070
when everyone in the
town was hating on you.
994
00:44:09,952 --> 00:44:11,388
And I think I came here for, for help.
995
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:12,288
I mean, can you believe that?
996
00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:13,398
Fucking help! - Sarah!
997
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,718
I do not think that, Sarah, wait.
998
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,713
Oh, fuck, fuck.
999
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,168
Okay, everybody, those two fuckers
1000
00:44:24,210 --> 00:44:27,138
aren't the only people
who can get shit to camera.
1001
00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:28,083
So here I am.
1002
00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:33,798
Okay, there is,
1003
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,513
there is definitely
somebody following me here.
1004
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:38,283
There's no doubt.
1005
00:44:39,201 --> 00:44:42,368
(footsteps crunching)
1006
00:44:43,278 --> 00:44:46,908
Okay, I've deliberately
taken you around the ridges,
1007
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:49,788
try and lure whatever it
is that's following me here.
1008
00:44:49,830 --> 00:44:51,768
I assume it's home territory.
1009
00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:53,208
I am not scared!
1010
00:44:53,250 --> 00:44:55,417
Do you hear me? (gasping)
1011
00:44:55,459 --> 00:44:57,609
(Sarah screams)
1012
00:44:57,651 --> 00:45:00,401
(camera buzzing)
1013
00:45:01,642 --> 00:45:05,475
(Sarah whimpering and crying)
1014
00:45:16,277 --> 00:45:19,027
(knife stabbing)
1015
00:45:27,197 --> 00:45:30,780
(murderer breathes deeply)
1016
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:35,810
- [Jessie] This project, this place
1017
00:45:36,890 --> 00:45:39,798
is something that strikes a personal chord.
1018
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,540
I'm not just doing it to get away.
1019
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:45,948
When I was nine years
old, my cousin went missing.
1020
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:48,108
She was riding on her
tricycle on the front lawn
1021
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:51,423
and all of a sudden vanished.
1022
00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:54,727
I know you shouldn't have family favorites,
1023
00:45:54,769 --> 00:45:57,453
but, but she was just
the cutest little thing.
1024
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:00,738
We searched and searched
1025
00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:03,528
until they found her body half a mile away.
1026
00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:05,628
It's never been concluded
what exactly happened to her,
1027
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:08,598
but an autopsy stated that she had been hit
1028
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,818
by a large moving vehicle.
1029
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:12,810
This is what the injuries aligned with.
1030
00:46:13,915 --> 00:46:16,608
It was as if the body was
just taken there to dump it,
1031
00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:18,948
maybe a hit and run.
1032
00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:22,385
They tried to dispose of
the evidence and got scared.
1033
00:46:22,427 --> 00:46:24,258
I don't know.
1034
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:25,698
I just want these sick fucks to realize
1035
00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:27,468
that they won't get away with it.
1036
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:29,688
The truth will always come out.
1037
00:46:29,730 --> 00:46:31,518
In this mean world, it's
always the vulnerable
1038
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,603
that get hurt first.
1039
00:46:35,328 --> 00:46:38,411
(intense rock music)
1040
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:57,978
What I was saying about the potential
1041
00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:00,618
of there being two murderers
is an interesting concept
1042
00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:02,868
and one that should not be overlooked.
1043
00:47:02,910 --> 00:47:04,008
One thing that is sure enough
1044
00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:05,538
is that the more I delve into this,
1045
00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:07,180
the more complicated it becomes.
1046
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,398
I've decided to go to
the police with excerpts
1047
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,548
that I found about a similar
case dating back a century.
1048
00:47:13,590 --> 00:47:16,458
Honestly, it's as if this
is some kind of tradition.
1049
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:18,078
Why though is it only this decade
1050
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,703
that it has become so
prevalent, so violent?
1051
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:23,988
Maisie Winters has helpfully
agreed to do another interview,
1052
00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:27,005
which I will also do once
we hit the cops with this.
1053
00:47:27,047 --> 00:47:30,130
(intense rock music)
1054
00:47:32,454 --> 00:47:33,287
Sir, sir.
1055
00:47:34,686 --> 00:47:36,310
- Thank you, sheriff.
- Okay. Yeah, no problem.
1056
00:47:36,352 --> 00:47:37,710
- Okay. - Good, good, thank you.
1057
00:47:39,122 --> 00:47:42,228
Oh my, what did I tell you people?
1058
00:47:42,270 --> 00:47:43,518
Get the hell out of here
1059
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,439
before I have to drag you out.
1060
00:47:45,481 --> 00:47:46,848
- [Jessie] I just need two
minutes of your time, okay?
1061
00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:49,228
I have some information that
might be relevant to the case.
1062
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:53,271
- What, what could you possibly
have to show me young lady?
1063
00:47:53,313 --> 00:47:54,378
- [Jessie] If you could
just take a look at these, sir.
1064
00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:56,958
They're similar cases
recorded from years ago.
1065
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,695
One from the '20s and
one from the 19th century.
1066
00:47:59,737 --> 00:48:03,513
- How could they possibly be related, huh?
1067
00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:07,473
Give it, now, get out of here.
1068
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:11,268
I'll hand it over to homicide.
1069
00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:12,978
It's all external now.
1070
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:14,118
- [Jessie] Thank you.
1071
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,598
- You be careful though,
where you go around,
1072
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,863
homicide may come and find you instead.
1073
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,548
- [Jessie] Hey, everyone, as
Thomas isn't with us anymore,
1074
00:48:25,590 --> 00:48:27,858
my sister has come to help out for the day.
1075
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:29,478
- Hey, guys. - Are you excited?
1076
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,098
- Yeah, I can't wait.
1077
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:32,644
Where do I put all the tapes?
1078
00:48:32,686 --> 00:48:34,389
- [Jessie] In the box.
1079
00:48:34,431 --> 00:48:37,098
(ominous music)
1080
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:44,268
Thank you for joining us today.
1081
00:48:44,310 --> 00:48:45,858
- That's no problem.
1082
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:47,628
Oh, do you know where
this is gonna be shown yet?
1083
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:49,737
Like on ABC or something?
1084
00:48:49,779 --> 00:48:50,778
- [Jessie] I don't know,
we're, we're definitely trying
1085
00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:51,708
to get more traction with it,
1086
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:53,531
that's for sure. - Oh, okay.
1087
00:48:53,573 --> 00:48:56,628
Oh, don't mind me if my
beeper goes off, my pager.
1088
00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:59,028
My parents got it for me for safety.
1089
00:48:59,070 --> 00:49:01,338
- [Jessie] Yeah, no, of
course, it's absolutely fine.
1090
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:02,171
- Yeah.
1091
00:49:02,213 --> 00:49:04,908
So what do you guys wanna ask me this time?
1092
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:06,708
- Well, we, we basically just wanted
1093
00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:09,138
to ask you about the legend
of the boogeyman itself.
1094
00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:10,698
You know, and since you're the first one
1095
00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:12,468
who brought our attention to it.
1096
00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:14,268
And just specifically
1097
00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:17,418
what your attacker actually said to you.
1098
00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:18,618
- Right. - We, we were talking
1099
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:20,868
to one of the ladies
down at the cafe, Jennifer,
1100
00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,698
and Rochelle's brother, Drayse.
1101
00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:24,108
- Well, first of all, Drayse is a psycho,
1102
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:25,908
so I wouldn't listen to
anything that he says.
1103
00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:27,141
I should know, I went
to school with the guy.
1104
00:49:27,183 --> 00:49:28,608
- [Jessie] The, the local school?
1105
00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:29,441
- Yeah, Maryland.
1106
00:49:29,483 --> 00:49:31,218
Total shithole.
1107
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:33,318
But anyway, like I was saying before,
1108
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,568
nobody really knows
where the legend came from.
1109
00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:37,758
It's just one of those
things where people say
1110
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,758
there's the boogeyman
and it's gonna punish you
1111
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,853
for your sins or if you've
sinned too much, or whatever.
1112
00:49:43,895 --> 00:49:44,868
But just like everything else
1113
00:49:44,910 --> 00:49:47,410
that people say in this
town is probably bullshit.
1114
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,928
- [Jessie] We also wanted
to ask you about the ridges.
1115
00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:53,868
See, all the attacks just seem
to happen on the one side.
1116
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:54,828
- I know.
1117
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:55,788
- [Jessie] Don't you think it's strange
1118
00:49:55,830 --> 00:49:57,730
that nobody's, like, tried to do more?
1119
00:49:58,595 --> 00:50:00,558
- What do you mean more?
1120
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,438
I mean it's, it's always been cordoned off.
1121
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,718
They've had curfews, FBI dogs, the works.
1122
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,398
I mean, whoever's doing up shit up there
1123
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,377
probably doesn't live there.
1124
00:50:08,419 --> 00:50:09,210
(camera buzzing)
1125
00:50:09,252 --> 00:50:10,788
- [Jessie] Well, except for Bruce.
1126
00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:11,988
Do you think he might know anything more
1127
00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:13,338
about the logistics of the killings
1128
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:14,751
even if he's not the killer?
1129
00:50:14,793 --> 00:50:17,543
- I don't know, I mean,
you'd have to ask him yourself.
1130
00:50:18,611 --> 00:50:21,111
(pager beeps)
1131
00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:25,158
Shit, my parents only beep
like this when it's serious.
1132
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,473
Does that TV work?
1133
00:50:26,515 --> 00:50:27,883
- Yeah, it should. - Can we turn it on?
1134
00:50:27,925 --> 00:50:29,151
We need to watch the news.
1135
00:50:29,193 --> 00:50:31,428
- Okay. - No, not that channel.
1136
00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:33,383
We need a, a local news.
1137
00:50:33,425 --> 00:50:34,216
(camera buzzing)
1138
00:50:34,258 --> 00:50:35,492
- [Reporter] From the town of Mitchin.
1139
00:50:35,534 --> 00:50:36,948
A young woman has been found murdered
1140
00:50:36,990 --> 00:50:38,812
near the center of the town.
1141
00:50:38,854 --> 00:50:40,518
The town has confirmed that the victim
1142
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,078
is a woman in her '20s.
1143
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,508
Sarah O'Reilly. - Oh, my God.
1144
00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:45,341
- [Reporter] This is not the first-
1145
00:50:45,383 --> 00:50:46,174
- No!
1146
00:50:46,216 --> 00:50:47,501
- God, she warned us about this.
1147
00:50:47,543 --> 00:50:48,585
- [Reporter] Being another homicide
1148
00:50:48,627 --> 00:50:49,418
in February. - I can't believe
1149
00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:50,251
this is happening.
1150
00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:52,998
- [Reporter] Not to mention
the cases four years prior.
1151
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,448
Daniel, what on earth
is going on in that town?
1152
00:50:56,490 --> 00:50:57,738
- [Daniel] Good question, Cassie.
1153
00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:58,908
I don't know what's stranger?
1154
00:50:58,950 --> 00:51:01,158
The murders or the
authorities' lack of ability
1155
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,178
to put a halt to it.
1156
00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:03,378
I'm wondering if the local police
1157
00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:05,252
are incompetent or indifferent.
1158
00:51:05,294 --> 00:51:06,974
- Oh, shit.
1159
00:51:07,016 --> 00:51:08,883
Camera's running out of battery.
1160
00:51:08,925 --> 00:51:10,230
We need to put it on something.
1161
00:51:10,272 --> 00:51:11,063
- Okay, I'll recharge.
1162
00:51:11,105 --> 00:51:12,108
- [Daniel] Has made it clear
1163
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:14,358
that law enforcement
agencies are not required
1164
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,458
to provide protection to the citizens
1165
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,100
who are forced to pay
the police for their services.
1166
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,753
- Is it on?
1167
00:51:25,710 --> 00:51:27,147
- Yeah, all good.
1168
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,743
Do you think we should go
outside, see what's going on?
1169
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:41,148
- I mean, that's not really advisable.
1170
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:43,608
They'll already have an emergency
curfew on and no offense,
1171
00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:45,738
but if they see you walking
around with that camera kit,
1172
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:47,155
they'll kick you out of Mitchin for good.
1173
00:51:47,197 --> 00:51:49,728
You know, I reckon you
should just stay here.
1174
00:51:49,770 --> 00:51:51,828
If it's okay with you, I might stay here
1175
00:51:51,870 --> 00:51:53,148
until I get another beat,
1176
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:54,468
because it might not be safe out there.
1177
00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:57,138
- Yeah, yeah, of course,
of course, you can stay.
1178
00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:58,728
- Cool.
1179
00:51:58,770 --> 00:52:01,698
Well, hopefully this will
all get sorted out soon.
1180
00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:05,718
But in the meantime, I come bearing gifts.
1181
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,098
Do you guys smoke?
1182
00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:08,523
- Very occasionally.
1183
00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:10,548
- Do you think that's a good idea
1184
00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:12,153
with all the, the cops around?
1185
00:52:13,366 --> 00:52:15,004
- I'm sure they have
bigger things to worry about
1186
00:52:15,046 --> 00:52:16,935
than a little bit of pot.
1187
00:52:16,977 --> 00:52:18,918
I, I don't know about you guys, but I'm,
1188
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,314
now, this whole thing's
making me really anxious.
1189
00:52:21,356 --> 00:52:22,548
So, and this is basically the only thing
1190
00:52:22,590 --> 00:52:24,468
that stops me from losing it.
1191
00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:26,508
We'd have to turn the camera off though.
1192
00:52:26,550 --> 00:52:28,503
- Oh, yeah, sure.
1193
00:52:33,450 --> 00:52:35,118
Okay, it's off.
1194
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,493
Okay, well, in that case, here we go.
1195
00:52:39,958 --> 00:52:41,212
(lighter clicks)
1196
00:52:41,254 --> 00:52:44,421
Mm. (exhales sharply)
1197
00:52:45,807 --> 00:52:46,640
So good.
1198
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,038
Are you sure you don't want some?
1199
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,598
- Yeah, no, I'm, I'm good.
1200
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,490
Thank you though.
1201
00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:55,053
- More for us. - Nice.
1202
00:52:56,310 --> 00:52:58,878
- So how do you guys
like s-save all that shit,
1203
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,420
you know, the tapes and stuff?
1204
00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:04,548
- Well, I know, we basically make sure
1205
00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:07,278
that we have enough
tapes to always go round,
1206
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,448
you know, in case you run out.
1207
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:10,574
And we keep them in that box over there.
1208
00:53:10,616 --> 00:53:12,320
(Maisie laughs) And well,
the same goes for batteries.
1209
00:53:12,362 --> 00:53:15,693
You know, you gotta,
you gotta have batteries.
1210
00:53:18,450 --> 00:53:20,688
- Oh, my God, do you know what I wonder?
1211
00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:22,249
- Whoa!
1212
00:53:22,291 --> 00:53:24,408
That's, that's quite a
strong grip you have there.
1213
00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:27,365
- Yeah, I mean, I used
to play shot put in school.
1214
00:53:27,407 --> 00:53:29,081
(Maisie laughs)
1215
00:53:29,123 --> 00:53:30,078
You know, I wonder,
1216
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,288
what is the world gonna
be like in the next millennia,
1217
00:53:33,330 --> 00:53:35,328
in the, in the, in the next century?
1218
00:53:35,370 --> 00:53:38,103
- Well, um, that can't be
any worse than this, right?
1219
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:40,791
- No, but seriously, like, I really hope
1220
00:53:40,833 --> 00:53:44,328
that we're all just so
busy with our flying cars
1221
00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:47,695
and our skateboards from
that, what's that film called?
1222
00:53:47,737 --> 00:53:48,678
- "Back to the Future?"
1223
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,538
- It's the fucking one,
"Back to the Future."
1224
00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:52,698
I love that film. So like, I
hope we're all just super busy
1225
00:53:52,740 --> 00:53:54,798
with our flying cars and skateboards,
1226
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,998
or too busy to fight,
1227
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,684
and hopefully there'll be
no wars, you know, and stuff.
1228
00:53:58,726 --> 00:53:59,752
- Yeah, I know. - We've gotta get there.
1229
00:53:59,794 --> 00:54:01,668
- No prejudice, opportunity for all.
1230
00:54:01,710 --> 00:54:03,408
- Yeah. - Ozone layer.
1231
00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:04,848
- Oh, my God, have you heard of Waco
1232
00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:07,188
or Wacko, whatever it is?
1233
00:54:07,230 --> 00:54:09,208
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have.
1234
00:54:09,250 --> 00:54:11,542
- Mm, interesting.
1235
00:54:11,584 --> 00:54:12,375
Oh!
1236
00:54:12,417 --> 00:54:15,292
(pager beeps)
1237
00:54:15,334 --> 00:54:18,281
Okay, no curfew's been called
1238
00:54:18,323 --> 00:54:21,918
so I should be getting
home before it gets dark.
1239
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,798
I suggest you guys get
your groceries before they,
1240
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,598
'cause they will call a curfew, so.
1241
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,473
- Oh, thank you.
1242
00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:31,428
- I, I hope I've been helpful.
1243
00:54:31,470 --> 00:54:32,508
If you have any more questions,
1244
00:54:32,550 --> 00:54:34,021
just, call me. - Yeah, will do.
1245
00:54:34,063 --> 00:54:36,168
Thank you, thank you so much, Maisie.
1246
00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:37,574
- No problem. - Thank you.
1247
00:54:37,616 --> 00:54:39,138
- You can keep that.
1248
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:43,308
- So it's been a day since
the murder of Sarah O'Reilly
1249
00:54:43,350 --> 00:54:46,278
and honestly, I'm just still trying
1250
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,118
to get my head around it.
1251
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,078
I mean, obviously I can't
shake this feeling of guilt.
1252
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,838
She, she came to me asking for help
1253
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,443
and I-I didn't help her.
1254
00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:02,328
Anyway, the, the police
have, they've been informed
1255
00:55:02,370 --> 00:55:05,478
that she was in touch with
me, obviously prior to this.
1256
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,008
And I'm trying to be
as cooperative as I can.
1257
00:55:10,050 --> 00:55:11,118
They asked for all of the footage
1258
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,198
from her interview with me,
1259
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:15,318
and now I have to stay
in Mitchin indefinitely,
1260
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,260
in case I'm called in for questioning.
1261
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,893
Honestly, it's as if I'm a suspect.
1262
00:55:21,630 --> 00:55:23,898
Sarah's parents won't talk to me
1263
00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:25,940
and apparently they want me out of town.
1264
00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:29,178
I don't know, it just feels
like since I got here trying
1265
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:30,648
to resolve a murder, I've ended up
1266
00:55:30,690 --> 00:55:32,883
making way more enemies than friends.
1267
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:37,338
I just, I don't understand
how anyone could think
1268
00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:38,838
I have anything to do with a murder
1269
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,818
that happened before I even got here.
1270
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:42,260
I mean, I don't know.
1271
00:55:50,266 --> 00:55:51,545
(gentle piano music)
1272
00:55:51,587 --> 00:55:54,035
- I know I sound crazy.
1273
00:55:54,077 --> 00:55:56,358
(gentle piano music)
1274
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,868
So like, are we gonna be on, like, TV or?
1275
00:55:59,910 --> 00:56:01,788
Life is fucking meaningless.
1276
00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:05,427
It's just, like, given and
then just fucking taken away.
1277
00:56:05,469 --> 00:56:08,552
(gentle piano music)
1278
00:56:10,647 --> 00:56:13,814
(gentle guitar music)
1279
00:56:15,767 --> 00:56:17,718
- So the police are
now actually also saying
1280
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,238
that I'm not allowed to
interview anyone anymore.
1281
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,908
Obviously, I don't think they
have the power to do this.
1282
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:24,048
They don't have the power to do it.
1283
00:56:24,090 --> 00:56:27,798
And I will still be
carrying out the interviews.
1284
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,788
The next one, however, I
am pretty hesitant about.
1285
00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:33,108
It's with this woman that Jennifer
1286
00:56:33,150 --> 00:56:36,033
from the cafe recommended, Mystic Hannah.
1287
00:56:37,290 --> 00:56:38,988
I don't know, I'm
obviously still gonna do it,
1288
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:41,748
but it's probably more just to humor myself
1289
00:56:41,790 --> 00:56:44,043
and add some dimension to the documentary.
1290
00:56:45,166 --> 00:56:47,208
I'm, I'm, I'm just gonna try
1291
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:49,818
and interview as many people as possible
1292
00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:52,128
before the police
literally out me from here.
1293
00:56:52,170 --> 00:56:54,738
I mean, I seem to be the
only outlaw that anyone
1294
00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:57,858
is actually interested
in prosecuting. (chuckles)
1295
00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:59,238
I also finally,
1296
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,788
after many, many, many
attempts in the phone book,
1297
00:57:01,830 --> 00:57:04,548
I finally managed to get
through to that musician's mother.
1298
00:57:04,590 --> 00:57:06,558
She doesn't actually live in Mitchin,
1299
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,968
but she's agreed to do an interview
1300
00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:10,158
at a confidential and neutral location.
1301
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,008
So I'm, I'm really hopeful
that she's gonna help me,
1302
00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:16,548
you know, unpick the
events of that day in 1990
1303
00:57:16,590 --> 00:57:19,683
and put some pieces of this
convoluted puzzle back together.
1304
00:57:20,777 --> 00:57:24,027
(melodic guitar music)
1305
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,107
(ominous music)
1306
00:57:48,629 --> 00:57:50,298
Ms. Holmes, thank you so
much for coming to the interview.
1307
00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:51,918
I really appreciate it.
1308
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,368
- Thank you. - If I could just ask you,
1309
00:57:55,410 --> 00:57:58,728
in relation to Ben's
murder, do you have any idea
1310
00:57:58,770 --> 00:58:01,548
who may or may not
have been involved with it?
1311
00:58:01,590 --> 00:58:04,293
- To be honest, nobody does.
1312
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:07,293
Sorry, is, is that a,
1313
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:10,188
am I answering these correctly?
1314
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:11,148
- [Jessie] Oh, absolutely fine.
1315
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:13,608
There are no right or wrong answers here.
1316
00:58:13,650 --> 00:58:15,978
I should also say, if you
wanna stop at any time,
1317
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:17,748
that is absolutely fine, Mrs. Holmes.
1318
00:58:17,790 --> 00:58:20,433
- Oh, you can call me Cassie, yeah.
1319
00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:25,960
Well, we've been trying to understand
1320
00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:30,573
to ascertain why our child was killed.
1321
00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:33,018
He was from out of town,
1322
00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:35,838
but he obviously had a
connection with Mitchin
1323
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,628
due to his work and the people there.
1324
00:58:38,670 --> 00:58:40,908
- [Jessie] Would you,
would you say he was close
1325
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:42,935
with the people in Mitchin?
1326
00:58:42,977 --> 00:58:45,277
- He was close with a
lot of people, you know?
1327
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,563
It seemed my son was a good looking child.
1328
00:58:51,899 --> 00:58:53,499
He was good with the ladies too.
1329
00:58:55,020 --> 00:58:57,978
And funnily enough, I
know he was seeing that girl.
1330
00:58:58,020 --> 00:58:59,628
- [Jessie] Sarah O'Reilly.
1331
00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:01,623
- Yeah, that's correct.
1332
00:59:02,670 --> 00:59:04,263
And of course, the other girl.
1333
00:59:05,149 --> 00:59:07,188
- [Jessie] The other girl?
1334
00:59:07,230 --> 00:59:10,203
Yeah, was also attacked.
1335
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,573
Maisie, her name is Maisie,
it was in the papers too.
1336
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,278
- [Jessie] Your son Ben
was seeing Maisie Winters?
1337
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,153
- No.
1338
00:59:21,550 --> 00:59:25,818
I, I mean, yeah, I, goddammit.
1339
00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:28,128
He would've ha-hated me talking
1340
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:29,943
about his personal life like this.
1341
00:59:31,350 --> 00:59:33,531
- [Jessie] So does that, does that mean
1342
00:59:33,573 --> 00:59:35,398
that you haven't told
anyone else about this?
1343
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,833
- Well, I did, I didn't
think it was relevant.
1344
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,458
- [Jessie] Cassie, do
you know if Maisie knew
1345
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,750
that your son was also
seeing Sarah O'Reilly?
1346
00:59:46,620 --> 00:59:48,789
- I don't know, I'm sorry.
1347
00:59:48,831 --> 00:59:50,958
I-I-I really don't know.
1348
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:51,791
- [Jessie] It's, it's okay.
1349
00:59:51,833 --> 00:59:53,628
One, one last question.
1350
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:57,543
Was your son ever, ever
seeing Shelley Harrison?
1351
00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:00,933
- Shelley Harrison.
1352
01:00:02,762 --> 01:00:04,788
The girl who got killed?
1353
01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:07,051
- [Jessie] Yes, that's correct.
1354
01:00:07,093 --> 01:00:08,463
- I-I don't know, Jessie.
1355
01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:11,463
I'm sorry, I-I-I don't know.
1356
01:00:12,810 --> 01:00:15,323
- [Jessie] Thank you, thank
you for your time, Cassie.
1357
01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:19,329
- Hello, hello, come in, don't be shy.
1358
01:00:19,371 --> 01:00:20,448
- [Jessie] Hi, thank you, um.
1359
01:00:20,490 --> 01:00:23,358
Thank you so much for
allowing us to interview you.
1360
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,538
Do you prefer Mystic
Hannah or, or just Hannah or?
1361
01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:28,848
- Hannah is just fine, darling.
1362
01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:31,728
Before we get too
comfortable, before we start,
1363
01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:33,348
I will need to take my fee.
1364
01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:36,378
- Your fee? - That is correct, yes.
1365
01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:38,328
For you, I can do it for $25,
1366
01:00:38,370 --> 01:00:40,068
which is a deal, let me tell you.
1367
01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:40,901
- [Jessie] I'm really sorry,
1368
01:00:40,943 --> 01:00:43,158
I think there's been some kind of mistake.
1369
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,958
When I called, it was
just for an interview.
1370
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,788
I-I won't require a reading.
1371
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:48,978
- Well, honey, the reading
will be the interview.
1372
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:52,968
I can't do it otherwise, I
don't have any answers for you.
1373
01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:55,958
- [Jessie] Okay, um, I'm
not really sure what I have.
1374
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,498
Do you have change?
1375
01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:59,088
- Yes, definitely, thank you.
1376
01:00:59,130 --> 01:01:01,428
Okay, lady. - Jessie.
1377
01:01:01,470 --> 01:01:02,703
- Jessie, let's begin.
1378
01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:06,348
- [Jessie] Okay, well, basically, Hannah,
1379
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:07,488
I just wanted to ask you
1380
01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:09,903
about the recent murders in the area.
1381
01:01:11,370 --> 01:01:12,618
What you think about them
1382
01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:15,438
and who you think the murderer might be?
1383
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,258
- So you want to know who the murderer is?
1384
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:20,958
I have been asked this
question a few times.
1385
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,473
Always the same answer.
1386
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:32,658
They're close.
1387
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:36,363
You and a man are also close.
1388
01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:38,051
- [Jessie] Oh, what do you mean?
1389
01:01:38,093 --> 01:01:39,948
Like, like, we're close
to solving the case or,
1390
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:41,298
or close to the murderer?
1391
01:01:41,340 --> 01:01:45,258
- Strength, surprising strength.
1392
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:46,733
- [Jessie] What do you mean by that?
1393
01:01:48,214 --> 01:01:51,828
- Um, it's, it's residual.
1394
01:01:51,870 --> 01:01:55,338
What is, the clues of what is happening.
1395
01:01:55,380 --> 01:01:57,318
You're on the right path.
1396
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,748
- [Jessie] Residual, okay.
1397
01:01:59,790 --> 01:02:01,548
- Please, I'm trying to.
1398
01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:03,573
- [Jessie] Okay, sorry, yeah, sorry.
1399
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:09,168
- Triangles, triangles of love.
1400
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:10,758
- [Jessie] Oh, geez.
1401
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,203
- Please don't interrupt,
it's very important.
1402
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,833
Triangles at the,
1403
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:22,173
two triangles once
attached but now separate.
1404
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,239
You are running from
one of them, and the other.
1405
01:02:27,281 --> 01:02:29,948
- [Jessie] How do you know that?
1406
01:02:33,387 --> 01:02:35,103
- The other triangle.
1407
01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:39,873
The other triangle is,
1408
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,933
is what you're looking for.
1409
01:02:48,898 --> 01:02:49,689
(glass thuds)
1410
01:02:49,731 --> 01:02:51,801
- [Jessie] Shit, Hannah, are you okay?
1411
01:02:51,843 --> 01:02:53,808
You, you look kind of shocked there.
1412
01:02:53,850 --> 01:02:55,998
- Um, I'm okay.
1413
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,088
I just need to be alone for
a little while to recalibrate.
1414
01:02:59,130 --> 01:03:00,888
- [Jessie] What, what about the reading?
1415
01:03:00,930 --> 01:03:02,020
What about the other terms?
1416
01:03:02,062 --> 01:03:03,438
- Look, I'm sorry, please leave, I'm sorry.
1417
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,148
Can you, can you just turn the camera off?
1418
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:06,018
Thank you.
1419
01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:08,838
- [Jessie] Okay, but,
okay, you, you take time,
1420
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,373
time to collaborate,
but maybe another time?
1421
01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:19,173
- Be careful.
1422
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,853
- Okay, um,
1423
01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:26,508
okay, thank you.
1424
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:29,523
Thank you, Hannah, you too.
1425
01:03:36,930 --> 01:03:40,158
Maisie Winters, I mean there's motive,
1426
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,018
obviously nothing set in stone,
1427
01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:46,353
but the triangle, the love triangle.
1428
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:50,508
And I keep remembering how, how Sarah said
1429
01:03:50,550 --> 01:03:52,398
that her attacker was just
dragging her up the hill.
1430
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,618
And I mean, obviously initially, I just,
1431
01:03:54,660 --> 01:03:58,248
I assumed it was a guy,
but now I'm just remembering
1432
01:03:58,290 --> 01:04:00,318
how strong Maisie's grip was.
1433
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,208
I mean, obviously this is
just me thinking out loud.
1434
01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:07,250
Maybe, maybe I'm going
crazy. (chuckles nervously)
1435
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,098
Anyway, I-I'm gonna try
and go to the forest tonight.
1436
01:04:10,140 --> 01:04:11,988
I just, I need to see the area for myself.
1437
01:04:12,030 --> 01:04:13,053
I need to scan it.
1438
01:04:14,130 --> 01:04:17,283
Obviously, just being careful
with the whole curfew thing.
1439
01:04:19,364 --> 01:04:21,833
I just need to see the spot
where Sarah was murdered.
1440
01:04:23,070 --> 01:04:25,968
Still can't believe how
accessible the bodies were,
1441
01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:29,208
especially after, after
everything that's happened.
1442
01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:34,250
I mean, God, people here
are just, they're just assholes.
1443
01:04:37,050 --> 01:04:38,350
No one even wants to help.
1444
01:04:43,905 --> 01:04:45,378
(door knocking)
1445
01:04:45,420 --> 01:04:47,913
Who is it? - It's the landlord.
1446
01:04:50,276 --> 01:04:51,067
(door bangs)
1447
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:53,257
- [Jessie] Okay, okay,
I'm coming, I'm coming.
1448
01:04:53,299 --> 01:04:54,621
- [Landlord] You're gonna let me in?
1449
01:04:54,663 --> 01:04:56,268
- [Jessie] Yes, I'm sorry.
1450
01:04:56,310 --> 01:04:59,148
- God, would you stop
pointing that thing at me?
1451
01:04:59,190 --> 01:05:01,878
- [Jessie] Look, I'm making
a documentary, sorry.
1452
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,068
- Look, you guys, you can't stay here.
1453
01:05:04,110 --> 01:05:07,308
You, you gotta leave, the heat's too much.
1454
01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:08,141
- [Jessie] Yeah, I know.
1455
01:05:08,183 --> 01:05:09,375
The cops told me the same thing, but-
1456
01:05:09,417 --> 01:05:11,898
- You got two days. - Two days?
1457
01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:14,689
- I'll return your deposit
and anything I'll owe.
1458
01:05:14,731 --> 01:05:18,153
- But no, I paid. - This isn't my problem.
1459
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:20,900
- What? Excuse...
1460
01:05:21,941 --> 01:05:23,988
Oh, my! - That's why.
1461
01:05:24,030 --> 01:05:26,531
- Okay, so I decided to come
into the woods on my way home.
1462
01:05:26,573 --> 01:05:28,368
I just, I wanna see the area for myself,
1463
01:05:28,410 --> 01:05:29,988
you know, scope it out a little bit.
1464
01:05:30,030 --> 01:05:32,568
I'm gonna do a kind of patrol and, okay,
1465
01:05:32,610 --> 01:05:36,348
okay, so I'm, I'm now in the
area where the police tape was.
1466
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:39,378
I still can't believe how
accessible the bodies were.
1467
01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:41,843
I'm just gonna make sure
that I'm home before curfew.
1468
01:05:44,370 --> 01:05:45,270
Did you hear that?
1469
01:05:47,620 --> 01:05:50,120
Okay, I heard something,
I'm gonna pan the camera.
1470
01:05:53,528 --> 01:05:55,376
- [Sheriff] That's why I
got the damn shotgun.
1471
01:05:55,418 --> 01:05:56,838
(Jessie gasps)
1472
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,713
- Oh, my God.
1473
01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:01,360
They were kissing.
1474
01:06:03,939 --> 01:06:04,730
Okay, I gotta get home.
1475
01:06:04,772 --> 01:06:06,303
I've, I've gotta get home right now.
1476
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:11,478
Guys, my tapes, my fucking
tapes have been stolen
1477
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,948
and so many items have been destroyed.
1478
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:15,498
I don't know, I don't know
how someone got in here, okay?
1479
01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:17,508
They must have access,
because there's been no evidence
1480
01:06:17,550 --> 01:06:18,918
of breaking and entering.
1481
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,848
Also I saw Maisie Winters
talking to the sheriff.
1482
01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:23,940
And now I think that,
1483
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:27,888
I think she might have
something to do with the murders.
1484
01:06:27,930 --> 01:06:30,048
Okay, there's motive,
there's a lot of things.
1485
01:06:30,090 --> 01:06:33,888
And I think it was the
sheriff that set that gun up.
1486
01:06:33,930 --> 01:06:35,280
I don't think it was Bruce.
1487
01:06:42,575 --> 01:06:45,408
Maisie was asking about the tapes.
1488
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,433
Shit.
1489
01:06:53,580 --> 01:06:54,783
Rochelle Hardmann.
1490
01:06:56,202 --> 01:06:56,993
Rochelle Hardmann.
1491
01:06:57,035 --> 01:07:01,248
We, we should have been
asking Ben's mother about her,
1492
01:07:01,290 --> 01:07:05,249
not Shelly, because she must
have been one of the ex-lovers.
1493
01:07:05,291 --> 01:07:06,258
(Maisie clapping)
1494
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:10,383
- She was, well done!
1495
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,858
Sorry, I hope I'm not interrupting.
1496
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:14,808
I've got a confession to make.
1497
01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:17,358
- Maisie, I should warn
you, I'm, I'm taping this.
1498
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,848
- I can get in here whenever I like.
1499
01:07:19,890 --> 01:07:20,928
You probably haven't noticed,
1500
01:07:20,970 --> 01:07:23,568
'cause you're too busy
making your shit doc.
1501
01:07:23,610 --> 01:07:25,488
You see, when I saw your ad for interviews
1502
01:07:25,530 --> 01:07:28,278
for the boogeyman, I made
sure that Robert, the landlord,
1503
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,348
Robbie, come out, please.
1504
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:32,778
- Look, guys, I don't, I-I
don't want any trouble.
1505
01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:33,722
I just-
1506
01:07:33,764 --> 01:07:35,755
(Jessie screams)
1507
01:07:35,797 --> 01:07:37,793
- [Robert] Shut your fucking
mouth, you little bitch!
1508
01:07:39,015 --> 01:07:42,318
(Jessie screams)
1509
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,610
- Is this thing still on?
1510
01:07:45,150 --> 01:07:46,588
Where was I?
1511
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:49,098
Yeah, I made sure that
Robert, the landlord here,
1512
01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:51,828
gave you the utmost hospitality.
1513
01:07:51,870 --> 01:07:53,370
Make sure she's tied up tight.
1514
01:08:04,232 --> 01:08:07,218
(Maisie exhales sharply)
1515
01:08:07,260 --> 01:08:08,373
Thank you, darling.
1516
01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:11,808
- Am I gonna see you later?
1517
01:08:11,850 --> 01:08:15,003
- Yeah, you're gonna
have to help me clean up.
1518
01:08:15,856 --> 01:08:16,689
- Okay. - Okay.
1519
01:08:20,808 --> 01:08:21,798
(Maisie sighs)
1520
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,628
God, I love that guy.
1521
01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:27,243
Poor thing, he's besotted with
me, he'd do anything for me.
1522
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,158
So some of the things
1523
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,843
that you've been saying
are pretty accurate.
1524
01:08:35,250 --> 01:08:37,968
Although there were two attackers,
1525
01:08:38,010 --> 01:08:40,368
I was attacked, that's for sure.
1526
01:08:40,410 --> 01:08:42,198
Although I didn't attack Shelley or Sarah.
1527
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,568
Well, first time anyway,
1528
01:08:44,610 --> 01:08:48,168
but that son of a bitch man-slut Holmes.
1529
01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:49,260
Mm, that was my work.
1530
01:08:50,250 --> 01:08:52,293
I had to stop because of the heat.
1531
01:08:55,287 --> 01:08:58,204
(Jessie shrieking)
1532
01:08:59,347 --> 01:09:02,097
(camera buzzing)
1533
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:06,708
(Jessie speaks indistinctly)
1534
01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:08,133
What, what was that?
1535
01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:11,118
Why did I do it?
1536
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,228
I don't know.
1537
01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:14,478
Call it PTSD from my attack
1538
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,653
or just taking advantage of the situation.
1539
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,548
This fucking world
thinks it can attack women
1540
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:21,018
wherever it wants.
1541
01:09:21,060 --> 01:09:24,063
Fucking assholes, yeah, exactly.
1542
01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:29,178
So after I killed Ben,
then I had to leave it,
1543
01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:30,678
four years to be precise,
1544
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,418
or the tradition of the boogeyman,
1545
01:09:32,460 --> 01:09:33,978
or so the sheriff told me.
1546
01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:36,948
It was his ancestors
who starred the killings.
1547
01:09:36,990 --> 01:09:38,628
They created the boogeyman.
1548
01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:41,388
It was him who fired the
shot after Sarah got away.
1549
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:46,430
So I knew that he knew
who the killer was, or is.
1550
01:09:48,330 --> 01:09:49,383
Maybe it was himself.
1551
01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:52,818
Soon the town will know
that the sheriff is also dead.
1552
01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:53,958
They'll blame that one on you as well.
1553
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,908
- No. - Yeah, he was in on it.
1554
01:09:58,950 --> 01:10:00,888
He helped me cover up the killing of Ben,
1555
01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:01,745
who he was jealous of.
1556
01:10:01,787 --> 01:10:04,518
Me and the sheriff had a bit of a thing.
1557
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,298
I didn't mean to kill Ben,
honestly, I didn't plan it.
1558
01:10:07,340 --> 01:10:09,798
It was more like a fucking fit of rage.
1559
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,178
And then I had to cover it up
1560
01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:13,020
and make it look like the boogeyman.
1561
01:10:22,530 --> 01:10:27,213
So here we are, four years later.
1562
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:31,843
I killed Rochelle because I knew
1563
01:10:31,885 --> 01:10:34,068
she was seeing Ben behind my back.
1564
01:10:34,110 --> 01:10:35,748
And then I finished Sarah off,
1565
01:10:35,790 --> 01:10:38,688
'cause she was just such a fucking cunt.
1566
01:10:38,730 --> 01:10:40,968
Oh, I do wonder who attacked her first.
1567
01:10:41,010 --> 01:10:44,388
It's so weird to think there's
a real boogeyman out there,
1568
01:10:44,430 --> 01:10:46,053
you know, walking around.
1569
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:52,365
It's funny how he tried to kill me
1570
01:10:52,407 --> 01:10:55,848
and he dragged me up that hill. (grins)
1571
01:10:55,890 --> 01:10:58,518
After a while, I sort
of started admiring him.
1572
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,063
Oh, I made these.
1573
01:11:01,831 --> 01:11:04,851
(Jessie screams)
1574
01:11:04,893 --> 01:11:07,319
(Maisie hushing)
1575
01:11:07,361 --> 01:11:10,908
Oh, they're so cool,
you're gonna love this.
1576
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:11,973
Here, look.
1577
01:11:13,774 --> 01:11:17,928
Look, like the claws.
1578
01:11:17,970 --> 01:11:19,970
Like Freddy fucking Krueger, am I right?
1579
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:26,240
You have been very, very
bad. (laughs maniacally)
1580
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,000
Oh, you're probably
wondering why I'm still filming.
1581
01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:37,203
Don't worry, it's just for me for now.
1582
01:11:39,450 --> 01:11:40,503
Okay, time to die.
1583
01:11:41,818 --> 01:11:46,818
(Jessie screams) (knife stabbing)
1584
01:11:54,392 --> 01:11:57,498
(Maisie gasping)
1585
01:11:57,540 --> 01:11:59,043
Oh, yeah.
1586
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:05,250
(Maisie gasping)
1587
01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:19,323
Over and out. (chuckles)
1588
01:12:26,370 --> 01:12:28,278
- Two documentarians have gone missing
1589
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,928
thought to be on the run for the murder
1590
01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:33,528
of a sheriff in Mitchin, Arlin
County, as well as the murder
1591
01:12:33,570 --> 01:12:35,778
of up and coming actress, Sarah O'Reilly
1592
01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:38,088
and town local Rochelle Harmon.
1593
01:12:38,130 --> 01:12:40,728
Tell me what has been your experience?
1594
01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:43,818
- Well, they asked me loads of questions
1595
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:47,148
and they mentioned Sarah O'Reilly a lot.
1596
01:12:47,190 --> 01:12:50,628
Um, really twisted how
they left the bodies out
1597
01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:52,415
in the open for everyone to see.
1598
01:12:52,457 --> 01:12:54,618
That's some fucked up shit.
1599
01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:57,588
- Now, do you think these
attackers are the same attackers
1600
01:12:57,630 --> 01:12:59,793
that attacked you four years ago?
1601
01:13:01,483 --> 01:13:03,273
- I-I don't know.
1602
01:13:04,585 --> 01:13:06,135
I mean, could there be another?
1603
01:13:07,980 --> 01:13:09,828
- Could there be another?
1604
01:13:09,870 --> 01:13:11,193
Back to you in the studio.
1605
01:13:13,650 --> 01:13:14,898
- Okay, so this is totally rad,
1606
01:13:14,940 --> 01:13:17,898
but we are actually headed towards the area
1607
01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:20,568
where a few of the murders happened
1608
01:13:20,610 --> 01:13:22,188
on the news here in Mitchin.
1609
01:13:22,230 --> 01:13:24,738
So a few documentarians
have been on the case already,
1610
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:28,038
but knowing me, I wanted
to get in on the action.
1611
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,798
But I have to be super
careful as I am female
1612
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,288
and I don't want to bait anything.
1613
01:13:33,330 --> 01:13:36,288
If not today, maybe another day, who knows?
1614
01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:41,330
So I think the murders happened around.
1615
01:13:41,394 --> 01:13:42,558
(animal grunting)
1616
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:43,915
Oh, my God!
1617
01:13:43,957 --> 01:13:45,933
Did, did, did you guys hear that?
1618
01:13:46,770 --> 01:13:49,983
It was probably some wildlife or something.
1619
01:13:50,850 --> 01:13:52,938
Anyway, as you can see, the woodland
1620
01:13:52,980 --> 01:13:54,738
is super dense around here,
1621
01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:56,464
which definitely cooperates with-
1622
01:13:56,506 --> 01:13:57,798
(animal growling)
1623
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,048
Oh my, my God!
1624
01:14:00,090 --> 01:14:02,288
Holy, holy fuck!
1625
01:14:02,330 --> 01:14:04,160
Oh, my God, oh, my God!
1626
01:14:04,202 --> 01:14:06,119
Oh, no, please, no, no!
1627
01:14:07,299 --> 01:14:11,799
(documentarian whimpering and crying)
1628
01:14:25,694 --> 01:14:30,694
(knife stabbing) (documentarian shrieking)
1629
01:14:37,764 --> 01:14:40,431
(ominous music)
1630
01:15:07,153 --> 01:15:09,903
(camera buzzing)
1631
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,018
- Breaking news today again in Mitchin.
1632
01:15:15,060 --> 01:15:18,678
Maisie Winters has been found
murdered near the town center
1633
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,708
four years after she
was initially attacked.
1634
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:26,208
Just behind me, you can see
there is police tape all around.
1635
01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:28,968
There are reports saying
the two documentarians
1636
01:15:29,010 --> 01:15:32,568
are still suspects, and the
police have managed to capture
1637
01:15:32,610 --> 01:15:36,228
and arrest Thomas Wajowski,
who vows his innocence,
1638
01:15:36,270 --> 01:15:39,918
as well as the innocence
of his partner, Jessie Heigel,
1639
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,773
whom he says he hasn't seen
since he left the documentary.
1640
01:15:47,289 --> 01:15:49,956
(ominous music)
1641
01:16:02,545 --> 01:16:04,128
- I'm getting involved in this project
1642
01:16:04,170 --> 01:16:06,753
for the sole purpose of
clearing my sister's name.
1643
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:09,288
Maisie Winters does not know
1644
01:16:09,330 --> 01:16:10,973
that I made copies of the tapes.
1645
01:16:23,031 --> 01:16:25,781
(camera buzzing)
1646
01:16:26,864 --> 01:16:30,114
(bright melodic music)
1647
01:17:07,321 --> 01:17:11,404
(bright melodic music continues)
1648
01:17:45,708 --> 01:17:49,375
(bright melodic music ends)
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