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What's happening to me right now?

It's like a hell hole.

Hey, what's going on everybody? For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and

watching Hot Ones. It's the show of hot questions and even hotter wings. And

today we're joined by Hilary Duff.

She's a singer, songwriter, and actress who's been a cultural staple for

decades, and she's back with her newly released acclaimed album, Luck or

Something, and gearing up for her first world tour in 18 years.

Be on the lookout for the Lucky Me tour coming to a city near you, including

Madison Square Garden this summer. Hilary Duff, welcome to the show.

I'm so excited to be here.

How are you around hot sauce before we get started? I'm good around hot sauce.

I don't recognize any of these.

at least 10 hot sauces in my refrigerator at all times. So we have a

foundational, yeah, we have a good base to build on. Are you ready to get

started? Yeah, but I'm not trying to be too cocky. I'm terrified for what's

about to happen.

Also, just this aroma of like spice, it's strong right now.

So the viewer knows, like, it's also in the air.

Cheers. Cheers.

Mmm.

Very good.

A little sweetness.

Okay. I've been too serious.

I'd imagine that it's kind of a trippy experience to create a set list for a

tour featuring songs that you wrote more than two decades ago.

Has there been a funniest or most sentimental moment in rediscovering the

of your past? I'd imagine in some ways it's like reading an old diary.

Well, we don't have to pretend that you haven't seen embarrassing things about

me on the internet. So, you know, there are certain songs that the fans are like

really...

fighting to be heard. And some of those include The Girl Can Rock,

The Math, some real deep cuts that I don't know if I can embody

anymore.

But I might try. Darn it, you'll try.

I am.

Honestly, I've had so much fun going back into my catalog and being like, I

to do that one. I want to do that one. I can't ever do that one.

And I don't want to say never because...

You know, anything goes, and I get to drive the ship.

I took two bites, my friend.

You know what? Then I've got to join you. I think you do.

I've got to stay on the pace.

Are we going in for number two? If you're ready.

I am.

So up next is a pickled garlic sriracha.

Give me anything pickle.

It's your favorite. Love a pickle.

All kinds.

I love that.

Again, there's a sweetness.

Pickly enough for you?

I could use a little more pickle.

All right.

We're taking the notes.

Did you take two bites?

Both sides.

All right. I'm dancing with you, Hilary. Okay.

All right.

I like that. That's good. Good flavor. Your eyes are getting a little glassy.

Ooh.

I like this.

I like this part. I like this part. All right. I'm just going to try to keep up

with you over here, okay?

But I'll make it if you can. Just tell me if I have anything on my face, okay?

will. I got you, and same for me, okay?

Is there a song of yours that bangs hardest in a live show setting?

Like, is there one that you can always depend on, like a comedian who keeps a

joke in their back pocket for when they need to turn the room?

Luckily, I have a few.

Not to brag.

I'm going to say, Wake Up Always Slaps.

And then I get to lean on what dreams are made of, which...

It's nice to have that, yeah.

You know, I'm a little congested right now, so I'm looking forward to this

like an opener, which I know is coming for me. Oh, okay. I'm a little worried

about the snot situation. I'm starting to run, but it's not, my mouth's great.

You're looking good. You know, I'm on it, all right? If there's some sauce, if

there's something in the teeth, I'll let you know. Thanks. But so far, I'm good.

You're good. You're good. We can move on to sauce number three, which is a white

hot mustard sauce.

Yeah.

I'm getting some heat. I'm not going to lick my fingers on that one.

Have you observed anything interesting about the day -to -day life of chickens

tending to a coop in your backyard?

Like, how would you describe their world as an outsider looking in?

They are simple creatures.

It's surprising to me how many people don't know that if you don't have a

rooster, you still get eggs.

I didn't know that.

Sean. What? How does that work?

Okay.

The eggs aren't fertilized if the rooster is not there.

But the chicken lays an egg almost every day.

So we don't have a rooster. It's actually illegal where I live to have a

because of the whole cock -a -doodle -doo thing.

The thing that's cool is watching them establish their pecking order.

They can be quite mean until they figure that part out, and then they just exist

together. I love having chickens.

I feel...

More bad about eating chickens.

Oh, right. Like maybe I should switch the subject real quick.

It's definitely getting spicier.

So take another bite.

Yeah. Let's party. That's what I'm talking about.

It's good.

It's not my typical flavor profile, but it's good.

I don't love mezcal.

Yeah, and this is the smoky sauce.

I get that connection.

I'm getting like a mezcal vibe.

Unless it's like a perfectly balanced mezcal cocktail.

It's like a band -aid going on.

You know, like that rubbery.

Now I'm tasting a band -aid. Yeah, okay. Thanks for that. Well, I'm tasting a

lot of spicy.

That's true.

I'll meet you halfway.

So forgive me for not knowing, but I was surprised to learn that you're actually

a New York Times bestselling author, having published a supernatural trilogy

young adults. Yeah. I'm curious what your bookshelf looked like when you were

the age of your target reader. Like, were there authors or... Twilight.

Twilight.

It was the absolute inspiration.

What's happening?

It was like Lizzie McGuire for people for me. Like, you were just, like, at

point in your life, and you were like, yes!

Somebody speaking exactly to me, directly to me. Yeah.

As an actress, when you create a series like that, is the idea of adapting it

into a TV or movie exciting, or would that puncture the fantasy or your intent

in some way? I think that is always, at least for me, because I am an actress,

and, like, mostly a TV actress, like, my mind goes TV show.

And not like, no.

I definitely would probably love to still produce a show like that. I don't

if I would be in it.

But there's just not enough time right now for me. You're busy.

You're busy.

Yeah, I'm being a pop star right now.

And you're halfway through the Hot Ones gauntlet. The accolades keep piling up

over here. My lips are burning.

Mine too. Okay. Same wavelength, same page. Okay. This next one is called

Tropical Amarillo, if you're ready.

I feel like the font of this is trying to downplay the experience. It's

undermining the heat, right. Trying to go tropical, like, you know. It's just a

fondue on the beach, yeah.

It's probably a dirty, rotten lie.

Okay, here we go.

Okay, I don't like getting a weird bite of chicken. It really ruins things for

me.

Okay, I'm going to try again.

It's hot.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, that's how the show's formatted. Are you, like, hoping for

water now?

If you are. I don't know if you're baiting me or not, all right?

But I'm ready whenever you're ready.

So I've heard you say that when Lizzie McGuire got a locker on the show that

felt like you finally got a locker. Yeah. Were there any other kind of

kid milestones that you experienced vicariously through your character?

Bra shopping.

Bra shopping.

It's so hot.

It's hot.

I think a lot of the themes of the show, of the episodes, were actually

happening in my life as well.

Social dynamics and stuff within my friend group outside of work.

I'm trying to think of one in particular while this heat is permeating in my

mouth.

It's so nice to hear people's experience with the show or like how it helped

them or formed them, whether it be like her style or not quite fitting in

anywhere. And I also kind of resonate with that. I feel like a very big

dork dressed in a cool girl's outfit a lot of the time.

I'm going to try to go really teeth here. Okay, me too then. Okay.

I screwed up on the first one.

Okay, I'm cutting a big bite. All right.

Did we call him grown hell?

Mm -hmm.

The literal eyes are like popping out of the dragon's head or whatever. Staring

right at you. Yeah.

Mm -hmm.

Did you take another bite?

No. I did. You did?

I did.

The rabbit's got the gun now, yeah.

What's it been like being a pop star time traveler and going from the times

TRL and record store visits to then pop crave headlines and TikTok

trends? Have you had any kind of pop star culture shock from jumping back in

pool?

Yeah, like the world of social media is...

A wild layer to add on top of entering the workspace again.

The fact that I have many, many memories of being at TRL is a part of my

personality. There would be the same song

on the...

TRL charts for, like, weeks after weeks after weeks after weeks. And can you

imagine kids dealing with that kind of length?

Right, right, right.

They'd be like, turn it over. Like, more, more, faster, more, less of, like,

same. Like, you know, now it's just this. So, like, there's definitely,

part of me that's just a little slowed down and, like, likes living in that

of my past and being old.

But also, like, loving a TikTok trend.

You've been busy on it. I know. I know.

Shout out, Aaron. Where are you?

Aaron in the building probably phoned out, you know? My hair and makeup also

will. They're dear friends of mine. And they'll be like, this is a trend we're

doing today. And I'm like, okay, I'll do anything.

I'm still a child actor inside.

Wanting to please.

I'm going. I'm going too.

I got a big bite. Yeah, I saw that.

Textbook. I got a big bite.

Kind of hitting me. It is? At this point.

Your eyes are glassy.

They are glassy.

Hey, you want to go in for some water?

If you, if you do. Some Wawa? If you do. Okay, let's go.

Checked out.

I refuse. I'm kidding.

But does it make it worse?

Is it spreading it?

No, they say that.

But psychologically, I always think the ice water helps, but I think it's all

psychological.

This one's abusive.

Yeah. You might actually want to take a sip.

Okay.

So I've heard you say that you like your steak very rare, to the point that

friends won't even share with you when you're having one. Can you give us the

do's and don'ts, the Hilary Duff do's and don'ts of making the perfect steak

home? So my mom, I grew up with my mom and dad saying they...

like their steak to where a good vet could get it back on its feet.

Isn't that horrifying?

Okay, this is hot. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah.

The, huh?

The perfect steak.

Perfect steak.

And then be careful around your eye. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I had that thought because I was about to wipe it from me. I saw it. I saw it.

anticipated.

I'm going to double tissue wipe my finger.

Get a little.

Okay.

Then I like to salt it on both sides.

Is this what you asked me? My perfect thing.

Got it. Okay.

I want my cast iron pan really hot.

And I put beef tallow.

It's like a butter kind of situation.

The wheels are falling off.

And I am just running.

And I wait until my pan is smoking, and I season my steak, and then I weight it

with a weight.

And I do that for like four minutes on each side. Take it off, let it rest,

slice it. Big pinch of salt on top, and we're eating steak.

This is going to be the one that takes me down, right?

No, nothing's taking you down. Not today, Hilary, though. That's right.

I'm upset. It just touched my lip.

Is my, like... I have, like, a

slight delay, but it is about to kick my ass.

You can feel it? Yeah.

Oh, my God.

You got the whole team laughing over here, by the way.

Okay, what's happening to me right now?

It's like a hell hole.

Yeah.

My throat.

Oh, my God.

Yeah. Okay.

Like, you kind of taste the smoke with that mezcal one.

That's just... And then this one, it just kind of turns you to smoke. Right.

Holy shit.

Okay.

So, while you... I think I need milk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know I'm getting on a flight after this.

I'm so sorry about that.

I always have to apologize from this side of the table.

So while you battled the bomb, I was hoping that you'd be open to talking

the different eras as defined by Hilary Duff's hairstyles. I don't even know

what you're doing right now. I know, but it's all right, because this one has a

visual aid. We'll pull a picture up over here on the monitor.

All right. What kind of turning point did the brunette era represent to you?

She was...

Trying new things.

She was leaving her old self behind.

And let's talk about the bouffant.

Yeah.

The bouffant probably had some device in there.

It was something called a bump it, and you stuck it in there, and then it

stayed. Also, why am I wearing Raggedy Ann's dress?

Sean, I don't know what's happening to my brain. I know. There's a lot going

All right.

We're almost through this one.

Can you talk me through the origin story of the teal hair?

She was probably in crisis, this girl. I'm not sure.

Well, one, do you know how hard this hair color is to keep up?

Believe it or not, I have no idea.

You have not explained. I do not understand the plight at all. It's so

to keep a bright, nice color like that.

You have to bleach your hair, first of all.

Terrible for your hair.

And then you have to constantly put color in your conditioner and keep up

that. Masks constantly.

Like, annoying. Why did I need to do that?

Who was she trying to be? I don't know. I think I was dealing with a breakup.

But then...

I had a baby during COVID like everybody else.

I dyed my own hair at home, almost that color. Gave birth with blue hair.

What? Why?

Blue hair. I had a girl. You know, you can never connect the dots. I know.

Looking forward, only looking back.

She needed to do this.

How are we feeling?

Horrible. But it does seem like... I like you a lot.

You do? Yeah, but... The wings? I'm tired of these wings.

Why do I have a delayed response?

Like, it's not hitting me yet.

Here's the thing. I can have another bite of this. There we go. Then I will,

too.

I couldn't do it.

I didn't feel the heat. I don't want the full experience.

Oh, you're living it.

Can you give us one highlight and one lowlight of living in the Oakwood

apartments? It's kind of amazing how many people I've interviewed on this

who've once held a lease there.

Yeah.

Sorry for the sound effect.

The extra bite was ballsy.

Once, I helped, no doubt, unload their gear.

Outside of the Oakwood apartment?

Yeah. And I was like, that's no doubt.

But really weird things would happen there.

The highlight was that I got to be really free. Like, I'm a kid from Texas,

like, I lived outdoors basically my whole life.

And the Oakwood Apartments, not that there's not probably threats there, but

it's, like, this big gated complex.

And my friends and I would, like, build forts and have, like, hideouts. And we

had a pager.

Before I had my cell phone, we had a pager, and my mom would just be like,

dinner's ready, come home.

Didn't you have, like, a scooter gang you were running? I had a scooter gang,

okay?

But there's, like, a part of my childhood that, like, I don't think

anymore for our kids. Like, toilet paper in a house? Like, I don't think those

things happen. The bygone days.

I know. I know.

All right, Hilary Duff.

We're here.

You know I'm putting it on. You know.

You know I'm putting it on.

Thermageddon. Okay.

You ready? Mm -hmm.

Dip, flip, and rip.

Dip, flip, and rip. Let's go.

And with that, Hillary Duff, the wings of death are behind us.

We did it. I did it. You did it.

And to close things out, you know you're a self -described old soul. I've heard

you refer to yourself as a granny.

And to make that point, I was hoping that maybe you

could show me how to hold a crochet needle.

Of course I can. Here on this side.

Here you go.

I don't even know. Do you need more than this?

No. Is that all you need? Mm -hmm. Then I'll go.

And then I'm wondering, do you have any foundational crochet advice for crochet

beginners like myself?

No.

That one's bad. Yeah, but it's all over.

Okay, so I'm self -taught.

This is not the way you want to have your yarn.

Um, I'm getting everything to you here.

You've got to make a slipknot. You know how to do that?

I can do it for you. You want mine?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just talk me through it.

I'm going to come over here and get it started for you.

Okay.

I think you took bigger bites than me.

Nobody's keeping score. Yeah. All right.

We're both at the top.

Okay. Flipknot.

You're going to hold your working yarn over here, okay?

This is my working yarn.

Okay. The lips are destroyed.

Hold your... You could drop that down to the ground.

Are you looking like this? I'm looking like this.

Your working yarn is the one that's attached to the ball of yarn still. Uh

And this is going to be in your hand, so you don't get confused.

This is like when you're in New York in the

summer and the humidity and the heat takes over and you finally get to your

apartment. Yeah.

And the AC is on and you're just like, you maybe start crying. Yeah.

It's been such a hard day.

In the world? Mm -hmm.

This is called casting on, basically.

You have to, you're never going to get this right now, Sean.

Yeah. It's just not going to happen for you.

I'm buddy. It's not, it's not going to happen.

Another time.

Okay, but you know what? Maybe someday we're like sitting on a plane next to

each other. Yeah, yeah. I can teach you how to do this. It's all good. Okay,

okay. Because I don't think I can really handle it right now either. I just want

to go home. But I'm going to get to the point of this. And you know what? When

you come back, I'm going to have a hat. I'm going to have a hot sauce koozie

already made for you. All right, Hilary Duff? But now at this point, there's

nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you. This camera, this

camera, this camera. Let the people know what you have going on in your life.

The only thing that's happening right now is the sensations of the attack.

It was a brutal attack.

I have a world tour that I'm going on for the first time in 20 years,

and a new album that I just put out, and it's called Luck or something, and

you can stream it anywhere. You can buy whatever you want. I don't know.

I think that's all I have going on.

That one comes for you.

Super fun. This is an absolute honor.

You got to be proud of yourself. You made it through.

Thank you so much.

You did great.

You did great.

That hurts to smile.

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