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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,969 --> 00:00:02,835 Tonight... 2 00:00:02,837 --> 00:00:04,303 Mother! 3 00:00:04,305 --> 00:00:05,971 WOMAN: He affects all of us. 4 00:00:05,973 --> 00:00:07,973 No one is untouched by Walt Disney. 5 00:00:07,975 --> 00:00:09,575 MAN: He's either the man 6 00:00:09,577 --> 00:00:13,145 who brought all of this fakeness into our lives 7 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:14,747 or he's the man who inspired us 8 00:00:14,749 --> 00:00:18,384 and gave us hours and hours of entertainment. 9 00:00:18,386 --> 00:00:21,153 Part two of "Walt Disney," on American Experience. 10 00:00:33,968 --> 00:00:35,534 NASA ANNOUNCER: Lift-off, the clock is running. 11 00:00:48,983 --> 00:00:50,883 RINGSIDE ANNOUNCER: And Schmeling is down! 12 00:01:01,662 --> 00:01:03,695 Exclusive corporate funding for American Experience 13 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:05,964 is provided by Liberty Mutual Insurance. 14 00:01:08,202 --> 00:01:10,302 In 1906, radio brought us together. 15 00:01:10,304 --> 00:01:14,673 is provided by the National Endowment for the Humanities, 16 00:01:14,675 --> 00:01:17,242 bringing you the stories that define us. 17 00:01:21,148 --> 00:01:23,348 American Experience is also made possible 18 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:26,218 by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting 19 00:01:26,220 --> 00:01:30,422 and by contributions to your PBS station from viewers like you. 20 00:01:37,565 --> 00:01:39,631 MAN: He wants to be an artist, 21 00:01:39,633 --> 00:01:42,534 and I think he discovered something early on: 22 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:45,637 that talent was his way of getting attention. 23 00:01:45,639 --> 00:01:47,139 Walt loved attention. 24 00:01:47,141 --> 00:01:49,108 (high-pitched voice): Hey, Pluto, here she comes! 25 00:01:49,110 --> 00:01:52,411 WOMAN: It's a perfect metaphor, him being the small mouse 26 00:01:52,413 --> 00:01:56,148 in this big industry that he wants to break into. 27 00:01:56,150 --> 00:01:58,417 MAN: His role was changing in the studio, 28 00:01:58,419 --> 00:02:00,285 becoming more and more the man 29 00:02:00,287 --> 00:02:02,254 who was the intellectual overseer. 30 00:02:02,256 --> 00:02:04,089 WOMAN: It become, like, the studio to work at, 31 00:02:04,091 --> 00:02:07,893 and all of those animators just thrive. 32 00:02:07,895 --> 00:02:10,429 MAN: He didn't know if it would really work, 33 00:02:10,431 --> 00:02:13,966 and one part of him was almost agonizing over, 34 00:02:13,968 --> 00:02:17,870 "Well, if people don't buy this, then I will be done." 35 00:02:19,406 --> 00:02:24,877 Slave in the magic mirror, come from the farthest space! 36 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:28,780 MAN: He's hailed in Paris, he's hailed in New York, 37 00:02:28,782 --> 00:02:32,851 and that's a moment where he starts to think very boldly. 38 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:35,554 He almost is released from hesitations. 39 00:02:35,556 --> 00:02:38,991 He's like, "I am that guy that I dreamed of. 40 00:02:38,993 --> 00:02:40,826 "I am him. 41 00:02:40,828 --> 00:02:43,395 So now what do we do?" 42 00:02:43,397 --> 00:02:46,331 MAN: Walt Disney once exploded during a story session. 43 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:48,267 He pounded the table and he said, 44 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:50,235 "We're not making cartoons here! 45 00:02:50,237 --> 00:02:51,503 We're making art!" 46 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:52,437 I'm real! 47 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:55,107 I'm a real boy! 48 00:02:55,109 --> 00:02:59,111 MAN: You have on the one hand Walt the inspirer. 49 00:02:59,113 --> 00:03:01,747 The other side was Disney the driver, 50 00:03:01,749 --> 00:03:05,017 who demanded work, who demanded creativity, 51 00:03:05,019 --> 00:03:07,619 demanded productivity, 52 00:03:07,621 --> 00:03:09,955 and if people didn't meet his standards, 53 00:03:09,957 --> 00:03:14,626 he could come down on you like a ton of bricks. 54 00:03:14,628 --> 00:03:16,161 WOMAN: He poured his passion, 55 00:03:16,163 --> 00:03:18,363 everything he believed in into his studio. 56 00:03:18,365 --> 00:03:22,034 It was the studio that went against him at this point. 57 00:03:22,036 --> 00:03:24,336 It was his own creation that went against him. 58 00:03:44,992 --> 00:03:46,725 (crowd chatter) 59 00:04:06,247 --> 00:04:08,747 NEAL GABLER: Walt Disney could deal with anything creatively. 60 00:04:08,749 --> 00:04:11,350 He could yell and scream. 61 00:04:11,352 --> 00:04:17,723 That's where he wanted his energies to be devoted. 62 00:04:17,725 --> 00:04:19,725 But he didn't want them to be devoted to this. 63 00:04:19,727 --> 00:04:20,792 And he couldn't understand it. 64 00:04:24,832 --> 00:04:27,766 NARRATOR: Employees at the Walt Disney Studios 65 00:04:27,768 --> 00:04:29,901 had been begging for better wages, 66 00:04:29,903 --> 00:04:31,837 extra pay for overtime, 67 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,640 and a uniform system for determining job titles 68 00:04:34,642 --> 00:04:37,476 and screen credits for months. 69 00:04:37,478 --> 00:04:40,612 Walt had waved this off as the hobby-horse 70 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:43,515 of a few hotheads and union agitators 71 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:46,518 right up to May 29, 1941, 72 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,388 the day nearly half of his art department walked out 73 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:51,757 to take up positions on the picket line. 74 00:04:54,395 --> 00:04:57,195 The strike demonstrations got bigger in the first weeks, 75 00:04:57,197 --> 00:04:58,563 and louder, 76 00:04:58,565 --> 00:05:02,000 and so did the threat to the already shaky studio. 77 00:05:02,002 --> 00:05:07,506 Disney's last two feature films, Pinocchio and Fantasia, 78 00:05:07,508 --> 00:05:11,543 had both lost money, and investors were fleeing. 79 00:05:11,545 --> 00:05:16,548 The company stock had dropped from 25 dollars a share to four. 80 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:20,452 Walt Disney needed a box office hit soon, 81 00:05:20,454 --> 00:05:22,487 and his own workers seemed intent 82 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:25,657 on derailing the studio's only two hopes: 83 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:27,459 Dumbo and Bambi. 84 00:05:27,461 --> 00:05:31,697 TOM SITO: As the strike lingered and kept going, 85 00:05:31,699 --> 00:05:33,632 the mood of everybody started to get ugly, 86 00:05:33,634 --> 00:05:35,334 and people started to get angrier, 87 00:05:35,336 --> 00:05:37,369 and then Walt was getting angrier. 88 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:41,139 NARRATOR: A month into the strike, 89 00:05:41,141 --> 00:05:44,242 Disney refused to recognize the union 90 00:05:44,244 --> 00:05:49,314 representing his workers, the Screen Cartoonists Guild; 91 00:05:49,316 --> 00:05:51,383 he refused to negotiate 92 00:05:51,385 --> 00:05:55,387 with the guild's representative, Herbert Sorrell; 93 00:05:55,389 --> 00:05:56,888 and he refused to make apologies 94 00:05:56,890 --> 00:05:59,257 to the man whose firing had prompted the strike: 95 00:05:59,259 --> 00:06:01,660 long-time Disney animator Art Babbitt. 96 00:06:09,837 --> 00:06:12,571 SITO: There was one day where Art Babbitt noticed Disney 97 00:06:12,573 --> 00:06:15,774 driving to the gate. 98 00:06:15,776 --> 00:06:17,776 And Babbitt just kind of blew his stack 99 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:19,778 and just jumped over and grabbed the bullhorn 100 00:06:19,780 --> 00:06:23,849 and shouted out loud so everybody could hear, 101 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:26,651 "There he goes, the great man," 102 00:06:26,653 --> 00:06:29,554 and basically just heaped abuse on Disney. 103 00:06:29,556 --> 00:06:31,523 "Shame on you, Walt Disney." 104 00:06:34,695 --> 00:06:36,428 NARRATOR: As the crowd cheered, 105 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:41,299 Disney jumped out of his car and charged at Babbitt. 106 00:06:41,301 --> 00:06:46,338 The two men had to be pulled apart. 107 00:06:49,777 --> 00:06:53,445 Walt Disney could not believe that so many of his workers 108 00:06:53,447 --> 00:06:57,682 had actually taken sides with the union and against him. 109 00:06:57,684 --> 00:07:02,020 Disney sniffed conspiracy, and a big one. 110 00:07:02,022 --> 00:07:03,789 He went public with his pet theory 111 00:07:03,791 --> 00:07:05,824 in a full-page advertisement 112 00:07:05,826 --> 00:07:08,226 in a Hollywood trade paper, Variety. 113 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,474 NANCY KOEHN: He needed to have a bad guy. 114 00:07:22,476 --> 00:07:24,676 He needs to blame it all on a villain. 115 00:07:24,678 --> 00:07:26,244 And in this case, 116 00:07:26,246 --> 00:07:28,847 the new flavor of the month in Hollywood 117 00:07:28,849 --> 00:07:30,749 at that time and later 118 00:07:30,751 --> 00:07:33,151 would be the shadow or specter of Communism. 119 00:07:33,153 --> 00:07:40,459 ERIC SMOODIN: He becomes then like a typical industrial boss. 120 00:07:40,461 --> 00:07:44,396 Most American executives at the time 121 00:07:44,398 --> 00:07:47,265 blame unionization on Communists. 122 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:52,003 So in this way, Disney becomes completely conventional. 123 00:07:59,546 --> 00:08:05,217 (whistle blowing) 124 00:08:08,155 --> 00:08:12,457 GABLER: Walt Disney is being bombarded 125 00:08:12,459 --> 00:08:14,893 by all of this negativity, 126 00:08:14,895 --> 00:08:18,530 and it's just not something he was accustomed to. 127 00:08:21,134 --> 00:08:24,202 NARRATOR: "The entire situation is a catastrophe," 128 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:26,538 he wrote to a friend. 129 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:29,708 "The spirit that played such an important part 130 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:31,810 "in the building of the cartoon medium 131 00:08:31,812 --> 00:08:33,778 "has been destroyed. 132 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:36,548 "I have a case of the DDs: 133 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:39,284 disillusionment and discouragement." 134 00:08:47,361 --> 00:08:49,594 The next day, Disney skipped town 135 00:08:49,596 --> 00:08:52,564 for a ten-week working tour of South America 136 00:08:52,566 --> 00:08:54,933 and left the headaches to his brother 137 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:57,802 and long-time business partner, Roy. 138 00:08:57,804 --> 00:09:02,140 STEVEN WATTS: What Walt Disney was doing was getting away, period. 139 00:09:02,142 --> 00:09:04,843 He just was sick and tired of the whole business, 140 00:09:04,845 --> 00:09:07,212 and he wanted to go away and do something else. 141 00:09:10,484 --> 00:09:14,152 GABLER: South America is a real relief for Walt Disney. 142 00:09:14,154 --> 00:09:19,891 Wherever his plane lands, people are there to greet him. 143 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:22,794 Dignitaries invite him to dinners. 144 00:09:22,796 --> 00:09:24,896 Everybody loves him. 145 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:29,868 And I think the contrast between the affection 146 00:09:29,870 --> 00:09:33,939 with which he's greeted in South America 147 00:09:33,941 --> 00:09:37,275 and the kind of hostility 148 00:09:37,277 --> 00:09:40,178 with which he'd been greeted in Los Angeles 149 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:43,548 isn't lost on him. 150 00:09:43,550 --> 00:09:48,620 NARRATOR: Disney was still on the road in South America 151 00:09:48,622 --> 00:09:52,424 when his father, Elias, died unexpectedly. 152 00:09:52,426 --> 00:09:55,460 Walt declined to cut his trip short 153 00:09:55,462 --> 00:09:58,196 and return home for the funeral of the man 154 00:09:58,198 --> 00:10:01,199 with whom he had clashed much of his life. 155 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:03,635 This was just fine with Roy. 156 00:10:03,637 --> 00:10:06,504 He was happy to have Walt and his explosive temper 157 00:10:06,506 --> 00:10:10,108 remain at a safe remove while he tried to make peace 158 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:13,044 with the Screen Cartoonists Guild. 159 00:10:13,046 --> 00:10:16,147 WATTS: Roy Disney sees the writing on the wall. 160 00:10:16,149 --> 00:10:18,249 He sees that unionization 161 00:10:18,251 --> 00:10:20,852 is coming into the studios whether we like it or not, 162 00:10:20,854 --> 00:10:22,687 and he wants to settle this. 163 00:10:22,689 --> 00:10:24,322 He wants to get things up and running. 164 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:32,097 NARRATOR: By the time Walt did finally return at the end of October, 165 00:10:32,099 --> 00:10:34,766 Roy had resolved the strike. 166 00:10:34,768 --> 00:10:36,635 The workers had been granted 167 00:10:36,637 --> 00:10:39,204 almost everything they had asked for. 168 00:10:39,206 --> 00:10:42,140 The Disney art department was back on track. 169 00:10:45,278 --> 00:10:52,117 But the studio would never again feel like family to Walt. 170 00:10:52,119 --> 00:10:56,988 The gal I married was a secretary in personnel. 171 00:10:56,990 --> 00:11:00,392 She was called up to Walt's office 172 00:11:00,394 --> 00:11:03,628 to help on the files, and she would go through 173 00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:07,666 and find people that were out on strike. 174 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:12,370 And they were moved from here to this file. 175 00:11:12,372 --> 00:11:16,675 Walt came in and said, "How's it going?" 176 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:21,379 She just said, "What are we doing this for?" 177 00:11:21,381 --> 00:11:23,748 And he said, 178 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:28,920 "Well, these are the people that are true to Disney. 179 00:11:28,922 --> 00:11:32,791 "These are the people who at one time or one day 180 00:11:32,793 --> 00:11:34,759 will not be here." 181 00:11:36,897 --> 00:11:40,865 SITO: After the strike, Walt distrusted everybody. 182 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:45,236 One of the great animators who worked on Snow White said, 183 00:11:45,238 --> 00:11:47,005 "Walt Disney was a great man. 184 00:11:47,007 --> 00:11:50,141 "Walt Disney was a genius. 185 00:11:50,143 --> 00:11:52,744 "If you were his friend, he was a warm friend. 186 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:58,283 If you crossed him, he was a mean SOB." 187 00:12:04,558 --> 00:12:06,758 (commander shouting march cadence) 188 00:12:09,429 --> 00:12:11,529 NARRATOR: Just a few months after the bruising strike, 189 00:12:11,531 --> 00:12:16,134 World War II arrived at the Disney Studios, 190 00:12:16,136 --> 00:12:18,803 much of which was commandeered as a base 191 00:12:18,805 --> 00:12:22,040 for anti-aircraft troops. 192 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:24,976 Walt kept up a happy front, 193 00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:27,412 especially for his two daughters, 194 00:12:27,414 --> 00:12:30,882 but things were not great on the Disney lot. 195 00:12:30,884 --> 00:12:33,785 Funding for feature film production had dried up 196 00:12:33,787 --> 00:12:35,954 by the summer of 1942. 197 00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:38,022 The company was limping along 198 00:12:38,024 --> 00:12:40,592 on revenue generated by government contracts 199 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:43,027 for propaganda and training films. 200 00:12:44,531 --> 00:12:46,431 ¶ ¶ 201 00:12:53,874 --> 00:12:56,441 (sighs) 202 00:12:56,443 --> 00:13:00,178 Winter sure is long, isn't it? 203 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:05,984 It seems long, but it won't last forever. 204 00:13:05,986 --> 00:13:09,087 NARRATOR: Walt was counting on a big box-office hit 205 00:13:09,089 --> 00:13:11,656 to revive his faltering studio, 206 00:13:11,658 --> 00:13:15,160 and he believed Bambi could fill that bill. 207 00:13:15,162 --> 00:13:18,229 He had nurtured the film for nearly five years, 208 00:13:18,231 --> 00:13:21,166 kept the project alive through the worst of the strike. 209 00:13:21,168 --> 00:13:23,201 Bambi! 210 00:13:23,203 --> 00:13:24,602 Bambi, come here! 211 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,939 Look. 212 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:31,409 New spring grass. 213 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:36,080 NARRATOR: When it was finally released in August of 1942, 214 00:13:36,082 --> 00:13:40,451 Bambi stood out as the most ambitious feature-length film 215 00:13:40,453 --> 00:13:42,253 in the history of the studio, 216 00:13:42,255 --> 00:13:45,156 an artist's rendering of the natural world 217 00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:47,792 in all its beauty and peril. 218 00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:56,100 Bambi... 219 00:13:56,102 --> 00:13:57,101 Quick! 220 00:13:57,103 --> 00:13:58,002 The thicket! 221 00:14:01,274 --> 00:14:02,607 (gunshot) 222 00:14:04,077 --> 00:14:05,076 Faster! 223 00:14:05,078 --> 00:14:06,578 Faster, Bambi! 224 00:14:06,580 --> 00:14:08,246 Don't look back! 225 00:14:08,248 --> 00:14:10,415 Keep running! 226 00:14:10,417 --> 00:14:11,316 Keep running! 227 00:14:14,754 --> 00:14:16,654 (gunshot) 228 00:14:24,397 --> 00:14:26,331 We made it! 229 00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:28,867 We made it, Mother! 230 00:14:28,869 --> 00:14:29,767 We... 231 00:14:31,404 --> 00:14:32,303 Mother? 232 00:14:36,843 --> 00:14:38,576 Mother! 233 00:14:44,017 --> 00:14:47,919 Mother, where are you? 234 00:14:52,425 --> 00:14:53,925 Mother! 235 00:14:53,927 --> 00:14:57,929 DON HAHN: A generation was and still is traumatized 236 00:14:57,931 --> 00:14:59,597 by that moment in Bambi. 237 00:14:59,599 --> 00:15:00,498 Mother! 238 00:15:03,136 --> 00:15:04,869 Mother! 239 00:15:04,871 --> 00:15:06,938 HAHN: And it's done almost in pantomime 240 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:09,774 with the snow falling. 241 00:15:09,776 --> 00:15:11,876 Fearless filmmaking. 242 00:15:11,878 --> 00:15:13,645 Absolute fearlessness. 243 00:15:21,688 --> 00:15:23,354 Mother... 244 00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:25,757 (crying) 245 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:26,958 (gasps) 246 00:15:29,763 --> 00:15:32,263 Your mother can't be with you anymore. 247 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:51,749 Come, my son. 248 00:15:56,222 --> 00:15:58,890 GABLER: Bambi is a triumph for Disney 249 00:15:58,892 --> 00:16:02,493 in the sense that it probably extends realistic animation 250 00:16:02,495 --> 00:16:05,830 as far as it had gone up to that point. 251 00:16:09,903 --> 00:16:12,770 But by the time the film came out, 252 00:16:12,772 --> 00:16:15,073 it was almost as if Disney, 253 00:16:15,075 --> 00:16:18,109 in the course of a couple of years, 254 00:16:18,111 --> 00:16:21,412 had become passé. 255 00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:26,484 NARRATOR: Bambi did not make back its costs in its initial run. 256 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:30,955 Disney could tell his investors, as he could tell himself, 257 00:16:30,957 --> 00:16:33,391 that the war was to blame for the deficit, 258 00:16:33,393 --> 00:16:37,261 but that failure coming so close on the heels of the strike 259 00:16:37,263 --> 00:16:40,832 made it impossible for him to deny the obvious. 260 00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:45,603 He had invested too much in animated features-- 261 00:16:45,605 --> 00:16:49,741 money, energy, effort, his own heart-- 262 00:16:49,743 --> 00:16:52,110 and what did he have to show for it? 263 00:16:52,112 --> 00:16:55,546 A crippled company filled with people who had turned on him; 264 00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:58,116 a mountain of debt; 265 00:16:58,118 --> 00:16:59,851 scorchings from the political press, 266 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:02,053 the art world, film critics. 267 00:17:02,055 --> 00:17:03,721 SITO: One of the things that was lost 268 00:17:03,723 --> 00:17:06,424 was the great period of Disney experimentation. 269 00:17:06,426 --> 00:17:08,159 The first five Disney features 270 00:17:08,161 --> 00:17:10,928 is known in the business as The Big Five. 271 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:12,930 ¶ Hi ho, hi ho... ¶ 272 00:17:12,932 --> 00:17:15,800 SITO: And The Big Five is Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, 273 00:17:15,802 --> 00:17:17,435 Bambi, and Dumbo. 274 00:17:17,437 --> 00:17:18,836 ¶ Hi ho, hi ho... ¶ 275 00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:23,608 SITO: Now, if you look at those films individually, 276 00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:25,510 they don't look anything like one another. 277 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,787 When you talk about the Disney style, 278 00:17:35,789 --> 00:17:37,688 there was no Disney style back then. 279 00:17:40,226 --> 00:17:45,296 Pinocchio looks nothing like Bambi. 280 00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:47,465 Bambi looks nothing like Dumbo. 281 00:17:51,171 --> 00:17:56,507 GABLER: The paradise that Disney had at Hyperion 282 00:17:56,509 --> 00:18:02,947 and into the early days of the Burbank studio is gone. 283 00:18:02,949 --> 00:18:06,551 And with that paradise lost, the sense of the animations 284 00:18:06,553 --> 00:18:09,654 and the greatness of the animations is also lost. 285 00:18:11,791 --> 00:18:14,859 It's never going to be the same. 286 00:18:21,167 --> 00:18:23,634 JOHNNY MERCER: Walt, how did you happen to choose the tales of Uncle Remus 287 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:25,470 as the story for Song of the South? 288 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:28,072 DISNEY: Well, Johnny, I first heard the stories of Uncle Remus 289 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:29,774 when I was a boy down in Missouri. 290 00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:32,076 And since then, they've been among my favorites. 291 00:18:32,078 --> 00:18:36,047 MERCER: Your favorites and a million others'. 292 00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:41,452 CARMENITA HIGGINBOTHAM: The Uncle Remus stories are a piece of American folklore. 293 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:46,557 And that is the kind of story Walt is interested in 294 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:48,793 after World War II. 295 00:18:48,795 --> 00:18:51,662 It's a way for him to start to break away 296 00:18:51,664 --> 00:18:53,564 from the European fairytale 297 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,634 as the foundation of his narratives. 298 00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:58,736 He sees it as being very personal 299 00:18:58,738 --> 00:19:00,838 and speaking to his own sense of boyhood. 300 00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:07,445 NARRATOR: Disney took a cost-conscious approach on Song of the South, 301 00:19:07,447 --> 00:19:11,115 mixing cheaper live action sequences with animation, 302 00:19:11,117 --> 00:19:12,583 and for good reason. 303 00:19:12,585 --> 00:19:16,053 His bankers were no longer willing to risk their money 304 00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:19,557 on the Disney Studios full-length animated features, 305 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:21,759 even after the war was over. 306 00:19:21,761 --> 00:19:24,962 Many of the first generation of Disney animators 307 00:19:24,964 --> 00:19:28,332 had left Burbank, and his once cutting-edge equipment 308 00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:31,802 was rusting like a junkheap in a back lot. 309 00:19:31,804 --> 00:19:33,838 By Walt's reckoning, 310 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,909 the studio had only one reliable and undiminished asset 311 00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:40,845 from its pre-war glory days: 312 00:19:40,847 --> 00:19:43,748 his own instincts about what story to choose 313 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:46,017 and how to tell it. 314 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:50,087 WATTS: It's the story of outsiders: 315 00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:54,192 a young white boy who's dreadfully unhappy; 316 00:19:54,194 --> 00:19:57,395 a young black boy who is his good friend; 317 00:19:57,397 --> 00:20:02,700 Uncle Remus, the wise old black storyteller; 318 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:06,003 and in the animated sections, Br'er Rabbit himself. 319 00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:08,306 And in all of these things, 320 00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:11,475 what you get is a typical Disney populist story 321 00:20:11,477 --> 00:20:14,445 of the triumph of the underdog, 322 00:20:14,447 --> 00:20:18,182 outwitting your powerful opponents, maneuvering, 323 00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:22,687 doing what you had to do to triumph. 324 00:20:22,689 --> 00:20:25,656 NARRATOR: Disney had been thinking 325 00:20:25,658 --> 00:20:29,026 about the Joel Chandler Harris stories for years. 326 00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:32,296 He had optioned them during his 1939 spending spree 327 00:20:32,298 --> 00:20:34,632 following Snow White. 328 00:20:34,634 --> 00:20:37,635 The Uncle Remus stories were uncomplicated. 329 00:20:37,637 --> 00:20:39,904 The politics were not. 330 00:20:39,906 --> 00:20:41,806 Harris had set the action 331 00:20:41,808 --> 00:20:43,774 on a plantation in the Deep South 332 00:20:43,776 --> 00:20:47,645 just after the Civil War, which meant Disney's adaptation 333 00:20:47,647 --> 00:20:49,280 would have to negotiate the questions 334 00:20:49,282 --> 00:20:51,949 of slavery and race in America, 335 00:20:51,951 --> 00:20:54,619 a dicey proposition after World War II, 336 00:20:54,621 --> 00:20:57,255 when white supremacists in the South 337 00:20:57,257 --> 00:21:01,692 were fighting tooth-and-nail to maintain racial segregation. 338 00:21:01,694 --> 00:21:03,728 HAHN: The core issue is, 339 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:05,930 is it okay to be an African-American 340 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:10,134 and have this kind of joyous sense of storytelling about you 341 00:21:10,136 --> 00:21:12,903 knowing that you went through the most horrific chapter 342 00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:15,473 of American history? 343 00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:17,642 Civil rights was not in full bloom, 344 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:19,644 but certainly the NAACP 345 00:21:19,646 --> 00:21:22,013 and men coming back from war were saying, 346 00:21:22,015 --> 00:21:24,682 "I fought for an America that was equal, 347 00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:26,784 "and this is part of our history that we have to deal with, 348 00:21:26,786 --> 00:21:29,820 "a very profound social pain that we all share. 349 00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:31,789 "And we don't want to whitewash it 350 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:34,692 into something that is this jolly story." 351 00:21:34,694 --> 00:21:39,330 HIGGINBOTHAM: Walt Disney has never been, up until this point, 352 00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:41,832 really concerned about social issues. 353 00:21:41,834 --> 00:21:44,001 And to present the black body in the South 354 00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:47,371 the way he wanted to, through a folktale 355 00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:50,908 which was going to rely very heavily on stereotype, 356 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:54,278 he was going to need to vet that from some source. 357 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,947 NARRATOR: Disney solicited notes 358 00:21:56,949 --> 00:22:00,785 from well-known African-American intellectuals and activists, 359 00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:04,388 including the head of the NAACP. 360 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:06,824 One scholar told Disney 361 00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:09,760 "he could do wonders in transforming public opinion," 362 00:22:09,762 --> 00:22:13,464 but only if he avoided the most hurtful stereotypes, 363 00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:17,435 like scenes of former slaves belting out happy songs 364 00:22:17,437 --> 00:22:19,970 on Southern plantations. 365 00:22:19,972 --> 00:22:22,006 Disney took the notes 366 00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:24,608 and then trusted his own instincts. 367 00:22:24,610 --> 00:22:26,744 As usual, when Disney got advice, 368 00:22:26,746 --> 00:22:29,013 he often didn't pay much attention to it 369 00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:33,184 and he just sort of went ahead with how he envisioned things. 370 00:22:36,356 --> 00:22:39,156 NARRATOR: Disney chose to celebrate opening night 371 00:22:39,158 --> 00:22:41,992 of Song of the South in Atlanta, Georgia, 372 00:22:41,994 --> 00:22:45,229 where the celebrated epic of the Civil War South, 373 00:22:45,231 --> 00:22:50,000 Gone With the Wind, had premiered seven years earlier. 374 00:22:50,002 --> 00:22:53,504 The actors who played the major white roles 375 00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:57,141 in Song of the South were all there, 376 00:22:57,143 --> 00:23:01,011 but not James Baskett, who played Uncle Remus. 377 00:23:01,013 --> 00:23:04,382 Georgia law barred the movie's star 378 00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:07,718 from entering the segregated theater. 379 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,491 ¶ Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay ¶ 380 00:23:13,493 --> 00:23:16,627 ¶ My oh my, what a wonderful day ¶ 381 00:23:16,629 --> 00:23:21,165 ¶ Plenty of sunshine heading my way ¶ 382 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:25,035 ¶ Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay! ¶ 383 00:23:25,037 --> 00:23:27,571 HIGGINBOTHAM: It is as if Walt has divorced himself 384 00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:30,074 from social context. 385 00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:31,475 It's sort of stunning. 386 00:23:31,477 --> 00:23:33,144 ¶ It's the same ol' thing ¶ 387 00:23:33,146 --> 00:23:37,281 ¶ Wanna get a bag of something for the hungry lord ¶ 388 00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:38,549 ¶ Look up! ¶ 389 00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,284 NARRATOR: Critics were split. 390 00:23:40,286 --> 00:23:43,554 "The whole film is beautifully produced," wrote one. 391 00:23:43,556 --> 00:23:46,424 "The plantation is traditional Deep South, 392 00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:49,360 "a dream place of magnolia blossoms 393 00:23:49,362 --> 00:23:51,929 "and darkies singin' all day long. 394 00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:54,665 Don't let the children miss it." 395 00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:57,401 ¶ Had the trouble with the weaver... ¶ 396 00:23:59,172 --> 00:24:01,505 I sure is sorry, Ms. Sally. 397 00:24:01,507 --> 00:24:04,141 No, it's my fault. 398 00:24:04,143 --> 00:24:07,678 I should've known you couldn't stop telling your stories. 399 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,714 I don't like to say this, Uncle Remus, 400 00:24:10,716 --> 00:24:13,951 but from now on, I want you to stay away from Johnny. 401 00:24:13,953 --> 00:24:17,588 NARRATOR: Others, like the usually friendly New York Times, 402 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:20,758 hit Disney hard. 403 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,494 "The master-and-slave relation 404 00:24:23,496 --> 00:24:25,763 "is so lovingly regarded in your yarn 405 00:24:25,765 --> 00:24:27,498 "that one might almost imagine 406 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,268 that you figure Abe Lincoln made a mistake." 407 00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:36,474 The NAACP decried Song of the South 408 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:39,944 as a "dangerously glorified picture of slavery," 409 00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:44,315 and many of its local chapters called for a boycott. 410 00:24:44,317 --> 00:24:47,585 HIGGINBOTHAM: Disney was utterly dismayed 411 00:24:47,587 --> 00:24:52,356 by the negative reaction to Song of the South. 412 00:24:52,358 --> 00:24:56,393 He very much believed in the narratives that it was offering. 413 00:24:56,395 --> 00:24:59,063 He believed that these were American stories 414 00:24:59,065 --> 00:25:03,367 finally getting an opportunity to be on the big screen 415 00:25:03,369 --> 00:25:06,537 and in a feature film. 416 00:25:06,539 --> 00:25:10,341 And so Walt is sort of shocked and disheartened 417 00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:12,676 by the responses that he's getting. 418 00:25:12,678 --> 00:25:16,447 NARRATOR: Disney decided the attacks were being engineered 419 00:25:16,449 --> 00:25:19,316 by his old foes, Communists, 420 00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,452 who had been waiting for another chance 421 00:25:21,454 --> 00:25:24,021 to take a whack at him since the strike. 422 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:27,091 "Hollywood was loaded with 'em," Walt would say. 423 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:30,227 "I had a lot of people just hoping it was the end." 424 00:25:35,101 --> 00:25:37,001 ¶ ¶ 425 00:25:42,675 --> 00:25:47,945 There was a hot new animation studio in town by 1947: 426 00:25:47,947 --> 00:25:50,214 United Productions of America. 427 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:52,550 UPA and its founders 428 00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:56,120 had very different ideas from Walt Disney's, 429 00:25:56,122 --> 00:25:59,089 and it looked like they were leading a creative revolution 430 00:25:59,091 --> 00:26:01,559 against everything Disney had stood for. 431 00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:10,000 SITO: "Who says the natural goal of animation is realism? 432 00:26:10,002 --> 00:26:11,569 "Why can't we use the trends 433 00:26:11,571 --> 00:26:14,405 "that are entering into modern art? 434 00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,307 "Why can't we do cartoons like this 435 00:26:16,309 --> 00:26:17,875 "instead of trying to make everything 436 00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:20,077 so damn realistic all the time?" 437 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:23,080 And UPA was the place where suddenly, 438 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:25,449 people were free to experiment. 439 00:26:28,554 --> 00:26:31,956 ROBERT GIVENS: We had a whole new approach, which was nothing like Disney's. 440 00:26:31,958 --> 00:26:34,692 We looked at the great guys, Picasso and Miro and those. 441 00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:36,393 So we invented a whole new way of doing it. 442 00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:41,398 It was now west bank animation, modern art, really. 443 00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:49,740 NARRATOR: Disney was keeping an eye on UPA. 444 00:26:49,742 --> 00:26:52,376 He wasn't so much threatened by its work 445 00:26:52,378 --> 00:26:55,479 as he was galled by its principal talent. 446 00:26:55,481 --> 00:26:58,949 Art Babbitt was on the UPA payroll, 447 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:02,086 along with a number of other artists and animators 448 00:27:02,088 --> 00:27:04,054 who had fled the Disney studios 449 00:27:04,056 --> 00:27:08,092 or been ushered out after the strike. 450 00:27:08,094 --> 00:27:11,128 SITO: The Burbank River goes past the Disney Studio, 451 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:13,597 and then it goes a mile or two down 452 00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,100 by where the UPA studio was. 453 00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:20,337 And Disney used to call UPA "Those damn Commies down river." 454 00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:23,941 GIVENS: Walt was curious, because he'd send his spies over there 455 00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:27,244 to see what us Communists over by the river were doing. 456 00:27:27,246 --> 00:27:29,179 (laughing): He called us "The Communists." 457 00:27:29,181 --> 00:27:31,548 NEWS REPORTER: Labor strife on the movie front. 458 00:27:31,550 --> 00:27:33,350 California studios picketed 459 00:27:33,352 --> 00:27:35,519 in a dispute between rival unions. 460 00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:38,756 NARRATOR: Hollywood had been hit by another wave of strikes 461 00:27:38,758 --> 00:27:41,325 in the first few years after the war, 462 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:45,996 and studio bosses were determined to blunt the unions. 463 00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:48,265 Walt Disney was among them. 464 00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:51,835 He was a founding officer of the Motion Picture Alliance 465 00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:54,638 for the Preservation of American Ideals, 466 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,275 an organization sworn to protect the movie industry 467 00:27:58,277 --> 00:27:59,910 from what the alliance called 468 00:27:59,912 --> 00:28:03,514 "Communists, radicals, and crackpots." 469 00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:11,755 In October 1947, Walt was offered a chance to hit back 470 00:28:11,757 --> 00:28:14,858 at his imagined antagonists. 471 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:16,960 He was invited to Washington to testify 472 00:28:16,962 --> 00:28:20,431 before the House un-American Activities Committee 473 00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:23,267 on the subject of "Reds in the Movies" 474 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:26,637 and what might be behind the new wave of labor strikes 475 00:28:26,639 --> 00:28:28,706 against the Hollywood studios. 476 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:31,742 Disney, along with a dozen other 477 00:28:31,744 --> 00:28:36,046 high profile Hollywood executives and celebrities, 478 00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:38,482 was deemed one of the "friendly witnesses." 479 00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:41,118 And at the present time, you own and operate 480 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,620 the Walt Disney Studio at Burbank, California? 481 00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:46,790 NARRATOR: The first thing Disney did was reassure the committee 482 00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:49,359 that he was running a clean shop in Burbank, 483 00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:51,729 free of any Communist taint. 484 00:28:51,731 --> 00:28:53,564 DISNEY: They bought the Three Little Pigs 485 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:55,365 and used it through Russia. 486 00:28:55,367 --> 00:28:57,601 NARRATOR: But then he started to name names, 487 00:28:57,603 --> 00:29:00,838 among them one of the leaders who had organized 488 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,508 the 1941 strike against the Walt Disney Studios. 489 00:29:04,510 --> 00:29:07,277 I believed at that time that Mr. Sorrell was a Communist 490 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,248 because of all the things that I had heard, and, uh... 491 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:14,151 And had seen his name appearing 492 00:29:14,153 --> 00:29:16,420 on many of the Commie front things. 493 00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:19,890 And when he pulled the strike, the first people to put me... 494 00:29:19,892 --> 00:29:22,226 to smear me and put me on the unfair list 495 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:24,828 were all of the Commie front organizations. 496 00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:30,167 My boys, my artists, came to me and told me that 497 00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:33,036 Mr. Sorrell, Herbert Sorrell, was... 498 00:29:33,038 --> 00:29:34,605 Is that Herbert K. Sorrell? 499 00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:36,306 Herbert K. Sorrell. 500 00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:42,146 He laughed at me and told me that I was naive, I was foolish. 501 00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:44,248 He said, "You can't stand a strike, 502 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:46,183 "that I'll smear you and I'll make a dust bowl 503 00:29:46,185 --> 00:29:48,585 out of your place if I choose to." 504 00:29:48,587 --> 00:29:51,722 SITO: All his testimony was focused on the union leaders. 505 00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:54,658 It wasn't just politically who's a Commie 506 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:57,261 or politically who's left or who's right. 507 00:29:57,263 --> 00:29:59,029 It was all the union leaders. 508 00:29:59,031 --> 00:30:01,498 GABLER: The HUAC testimony is 1947. 509 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,267 The strike is 1941. 510 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:05,369 So we're talking a six-year period. 511 00:30:05,371 --> 00:30:07,004 But I think it goes to show 512 00:30:07,006 --> 00:30:11,942 just how long Walt holds a grudge, which is forever. 513 00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:15,479 SITO: He basically had this narrative in his mind 514 00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:18,348 of how he saw the way things happened. 515 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:21,051 And that's when he decried that Sorrell was a Communist. 516 00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:22,719 ...call them all a bunch of Communists, 517 00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:24,254 and I believe they are. 518 00:30:24,256 --> 00:30:25,889 SITO: He couldn't actually prove he was a Communist. 519 00:30:25,891 --> 00:30:27,658 He just said, "I don't know if he's a Communist or not, 520 00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:28,926 but he probably is." 521 00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:30,460 "You think I'm a Communist, don't you?" 522 00:30:30,462 --> 00:30:31,895 And I told him that all I knew 523 00:30:31,897 --> 00:30:33,931 is what I'd heard and what I'd seen. 524 00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:37,835 SITO: That's not enough for a trial. 525 00:30:41,307 --> 00:30:43,640 NARRATOR: Disney and other friendly witnesses 526 00:30:43,642 --> 00:30:46,043 like Ronald Reagan and Gary Cooper 527 00:30:46,045 --> 00:30:48,712 won plaudits for their performance 528 00:30:48,714 --> 00:30:52,449 and provided cover for the studio bosses' next move, 529 00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:56,753 which was intended to crush labor union activists. 530 00:30:56,755 --> 00:31:01,825 SMOODIN: The black list is designed to rid the industry of leftists. 531 00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:05,429 And in fact, it says that the studios would themselves agree 532 00:31:05,431 --> 00:31:09,233 not to hire anyone who was understood to be, 533 00:31:09,235 --> 00:31:11,635 alleged to be, a Communist. 534 00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:16,206 So Disney is not responsible for this, 535 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:20,043 but he's part of a movement that produces it. 536 00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:23,180 It means that any number of people 537 00:31:23,182 --> 00:31:25,816 lose their means of making a living, 538 00:31:25,818 --> 00:31:28,252 and so it in effect ruins careers. 539 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:44,735 NARRATOR: Walt Disney beat a hasty retreat from the political battlefield 540 00:31:44,737 --> 00:31:47,137 after his public testimony. 541 00:31:47,139 --> 00:31:50,274 He had no stomach for an ongoing fight 542 00:31:50,276 --> 00:31:53,310 over ideology, and no interest. 543 00:31:53,312 --> 00:31:56,480 He just wanted to get back to work. 544 00:31:56,482 --> 00:31:58,582 REPORTER: Oh, Mr. Disney, 545 00:31:58,584 --> 00:32:00,717 give me some more details of your leprechaun hunt. 546 00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,619 I just hope that I can find that Leprechaun 547 00:32:02,621 --> 00:32:04,621 with the pot of gold, 548 00:32:04,623 --> 00:32:06,823 because I could really use that in Hollywood, 549 00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,826 with the cost of production going up the way it is. 550 00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:14,164 NARRATOR: Disney was producing more than ever by 1948, 551 00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:15,999 but he was all over the map, 552 00:32:16,001 --> 00:32:19,169 in search of the studio's next big thing. 553 00:32:19,171 --> 00:32:23,073 He traveled to England to launch a series of live-action films, 554 00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:26,043 starting with the pirate story Treasure Island. 555 00:32:26,045 --> 00:32:30,914 He made others in the U.S. including So Dear to My Heart, 556 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:33,216 a nostalgic look at turn-of-the-century 557 00:32:33,218 --> 00:32:35,052 small-town America. 558 00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:38,221 He spent a week holed up in a hotel room in New York 559 00:32:38,223 --> 00:32:40,057 watching television 560 00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:43,360 to see if there was anything to be done in the new medium. 561 00:32:43,362 --> 00:32:47,264 He took his daughter Sharon on a trip to Alaska, 562 00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:51,168 scene of his first attempt at making a nature documentary, 563 00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:53,303 Seal Island. 564 00:32:53,305 --> 00:32:55,072 HAHN: If Disney's gonna make nature movies, 565 00:32:55,074 --> 00:32:57,040 he has to do what he does naturally. 566 00:32:57,042 --> 00:32:59,609 Walt Disney tells stories. 567 00:32:59,611 --> 00:33:02,746 So he looks at this thousand feet of footage for seals, 568 00:33:02,748 --> 00:33:04,781 and to him he's looking for, 569 00:33:04,783 --> 00:33:07,918 "Oh, well, that's the mom seal, and that's the daughter seal, 570 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,520 "and that's the bad guy seal, and they fight later on. 571 00:33:10,522 --> 00:33:11,922 "They should fight. 572 00:33:11,924 --> 00:33:13,457 If you don't have that footage, go out and shoot it." 573 00:33:13,459 --> 00:33:15,025 And he turns it into a narrative. 574 00:33:18,263 --> 00:33:20,297 DOCUMENTARY NARRATOR: Since no one else will nurse him, 575 00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:21,832 let's hope mother comes home soon. 576 00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:23,300 For if anything has happened to her, 577 00:33:23,302 --> 00:33:24,601 this pup will surely die. 578 00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:26,136 (seal braying) 579 00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:28,605 There are no orphans on Seal Island. 580 00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:31,508 HAHN: So to him, it's a way of getting an animated film, 581 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:33,210 but out of live footage. 582 00:33:33,212 --> 00:33:35,278 (seal braying) 583 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:40,117 DOCUMENTARY NARRATOR: Yes, here they are at last, right on schedule. 584 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:41,852 Swimming and diving playfully, 585 00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:44,488 as though glad their journey is over. 586 00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:47,290 But they don't seem in any great hurry to go ashore. 587 00:33:47,292 --> 00:33:48,625 HAHN: He has to diversify. 588 00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:49,860 He has no money. 589 00:33:49,862 --> 00:33:51,628 They're really cheap to shoot. 590 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:54,164 I mean, the seals don't go on strike. 591 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:56,299 DOCUMENTARY NARRATOR: ...having a final fling of single blessedness. 592 00:33:56,301 --> 00:33:59,803 NARRATOR: Seal Island won an Academy Award 593 00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:03,540 and launched Disney's new and profitable line 594 00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:07,611 of nature documentaries: True Life Adventures. 595 00:34:07,613 --> 00:34:11,581 But Walt missed the excitement of feature animation, 596 00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:15,485 and by 1949, he was ready to start anew. 597 00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:20,257 Roy balked-- too expensive, too risky, he said-- 598 00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:24,194 and the brothers fought an epic screaming battle. 599 00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:26,229 Walt gave Roy an ultimatum: 600 00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:28,698 find the money for animated features 601 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:30,700 or sell off the business. 602 00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,136 Roy walked out on him. 603 00:34:33,138 --> 00:34:35,005 "You're letting this place drive you nuts," 604 00:34:35,007 --> 00:34:37,674 he said on his way out. 605 00:34:37,676 --> 00:34:41,011 "That's one place I'm not going with you." 606 00:34:41,013 --> 00:34:46,316 Roy did eventually relent to Walt's desire, as always, 607 00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:49,419 and agreed to raise the two million dollars they needed 608 00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:52,923 for a new animated feature: Cinderella. 609 00:34:52,925 --> 00:34:56,426 But once production on the new film was up and running, 610 00:34:56,428 --> 00:34:58,962 Disney was uncharacteristically distant 611 00:34:58,964 --> 00:35:01,498 from his studio's signature undertaking. 612 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,667 That old Snow White feeling 613 00:35:03,669 --> 00:35:07,571 of excitement and new possibilities eluded Walt. 614 00:35:07,573 --> 00:35:11,041 He seemed wary of fully investing himself in the film 615 00:35:11,043 --> 00:35:14,578 and left most of the hard work to his staff. 616 00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:21,518 Nearing 50, Disney was also beginning to wear down, 617 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,588 and so precipitously that he made sure 618 00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:28,158 to keep a trained nurse on the studio payroll. 619 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,563 Hazel George came to Walt's office every afternoon at 5:00 620 00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:35,499 to give him heat treatment for his back, 621 00:35:35,501 --> 00:35:39,069 a Scotch mist or two, and a friendly ear. 622 00:35:39,071 --> 00:35:41,738 ROLLY CRUMP: She was a very pleasant lady. 623 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:45,742 Walt, because he had hurt himself playing polo, 624 00:35:45,744 --> 00:35:47,978 almost every night or every other night, 625 00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:49,446 he would go to Hazel, 626 00:35:49,448 --> 00:35:51,815 and she would massage his back and his hips 627 00:35:51,817 --> 00:35:54,117 because he was in great pain. 628 00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:59,589 GABLER: Well, Hazel George becomes one of those very few figures 629 00:35:59,591 --> 00:36:02,626 in his entire life to whom he can talk. 630 00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:05,629 It wasn't a sexual relationship, it wasn't anything like that, 631 00:36:05,631 --> 00:36:07,097 but she was someone 632 00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:10,100 to whom he could say anything and everything, 633 00:36:10,102 --> 00:36:13,036 and he could say it in confidence. 634 00:36:13,038 --> 00:36:16,106 WATTS: He's very famous. 635 00:36:16,108 --> 00:36:17,841 He's very powerful. 636 00:36:17,843 --> 00:36:20,010 He absolutely runs the show. 637 00:36:20,012 --> 00:36:22,312 But it's difficult to say 638 00:36:22,314 --> 00:36:25,215 if Walt Disney had any close, close friends, 639 00:36:25,217 --> 00:36:27,884 bosom companions that he could really talk to 640 00:36:27,886 --> 00:36:29,419 and share things with. 641 00:36:29,421 --> 00:36:35,225 GABLER: Walt Disney is at low ebb. 642 00:36:35,227 --> 00:36:38,295 He said, "I realize that 643 00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:42,632 I'm never going to make anything as good as Snow White." 644 00:36:42,634 --> 00:36:44,467 When you think of Walt Disney 645 00:36:44,469 --> 00:36:47,204 as the guy who's always looking at the next horizon, 646 00:36:47,206 --> 00:36:50,674 the guy who's always trying to break a new path, 647 00:36:50,676 --> 00:36:52,909 the guy who's lived for excellence, 648 00:36:52,911 --> 00:36:58,815 and then he can say, not only to himself, but publicly, 649 00:36:58,817 --> 00:37:02,919 "I'm never going to make anything as good as Snow White." 650 00:37:02,921 --> 00:37:06,590 You want to hear a man in crisis? 651 00:37:06,592 --> 00:37:08,592 That's a man in crisis. 652 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:24,474 NARRATOR: In the fall of 1948, 653 00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:27,844 as he had done nearly two decades earlier, 654 00:37:27,846 --> 00:37:32,315 Walt followed doctor's orders and departed on a vacation. 655 00:37:32,317 --> 00:37:33,783 Hazel George, 656 00:37:33,785 --> 00:37:36,052 who had seen the enormous new toy train layout 657 00:37:36,054 --> 00:37:38,755 Walt had installed in his private office, 658 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:40,156 had suggested he take a trip 659 00:37:40,158 --> 00:37:43,493 to a railroad convention in Illinois. 660 00:37:43,495 --> 00:37:49,399 Walt had invited a fellow train enthusiast to travel with him. 661 00:37:49,401 --> 00:37:53,069 "Goddammit, you have more fun than anybody I know," 662 00:37:53,071 --> 00:37:56,606 Disney told animator Ward Kimball. 663 00:37:56,608 --> 00:38:02,078 As the two men rode the rails drinking Scotch mists, 664 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,814 Walt regaled Ward with his life story, 665 00:38:04,816 --> 00:38:07,817 from Marceline to Hollywood. 666 00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:18,228 (horn blowing) 667 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:23,733 By the time they arrived in Chicago, Disney was giddy. 668 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:37,614 WATTS: It's Disney returning to his roots. 669 00:38:37,616 --> 00:38:43,753 The train is something that he associates with his childhood, 670 00:38:43,755 --> 00:38:45,155 with growing up 671 00:38:45,157 --> 00:38:47,457 where the railroad ran next to his house 672 00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:49,693 right through the center of Marceline. 673 00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:53,496 The train is something he associates 674 00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:56,566 with that vanished age of his childhood. 675 00:39:00,706 --> 00:39:04,240 NARRATOR: Disney arrived home with a new obsession, 676 00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:07,811 having his own large-scale model train, 677 00:39:07,813 --> 00:39:11,781 and he ordered one built at the studio in Burbank. 678 00:39:11,783 --> 00:39:14,184 He made it his business 679 00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:17,020 to stop by the studio machine shop most days, 680 00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:19,889 just to check in on the progress. 681 00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:22,292 He was soon spending 682 00:39:22,294 --> 00:39:24,794 three or four hours at a time in the shop, 683 00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:27,197 and then more hours in the evening, 684 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,867 and then all day on Saturday. 685 00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:33,470 The head machinist had assigned Disney 686 00:39:33,472 --> 00:39:36,039 his own bench and toolset by then 687 00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:37,707 and put him to work. 688 00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:42,045 GABLER: Walt Disney was building these trains 689 00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:44,447 with his own hands. 690 00:39:44,449 --> 00:39:46,082 Manual labor. 691 00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:48,017 The great Walt Disney 692 00:39:48,019 --> 00:39:54,023 was now devoting his energies to toy trains. 693 00:39:54,025 --> 00:39:56,760 NARRATOR: When a film critic from the New York Times 694 00:39:56,762 --> 00:39:59,262 visited during production on Cinderella, 695 00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:01,664 he found Disney, as he wrote, 696 00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:04,067 "wholly, almost weirdly, concerned 697 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:06,870 "with the miniature railroad engine and his cars. 698 00:40:06,872 --> 00:40:11,107 "All of his zest for invention, for creating fantasies, 699 00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:14,477 seemed to go into this plaything." 700 00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,853 When Walt's oft-neglected progeny, Cinderella, 701 00:40:23,855 --> 00:40:27,390 finally premiered at the beginning of 1950, 702 00:40:27,392 --> 00:40:30,293 critics hailed it as the long-awaited return 703 00:40:30,295 --> 00:40:35,231 of the classic Disney form, and a must-see. 704 00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:37,033 Now let's see, dear. 705 00:40:37,035 --> 00:40:39,702 Your size and the shade of your eyes... 706 00:40:39,704 --> 00:40:40,804 Mm-hmm. 707 00:40:40,806 --> 00:40:42,005 Something simple, 708 00:40:42,007 --> 00:40:44,073 but daring too! 709 00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:45,074 (gasps) 710 00:40:45,076 --> 00:40:46,342 Just leave it to me. 711 00:40:46,344 --> 00:40:48,211 What a gown this will be! 712 00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:49,412 Bippity-boppity, 713 00:40:49,414 --> 00:40:52,649 bippity-boppity, bippity-boppity-boo! 714 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:58,488 Oh, it's a beautiful dress! 715 00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:00,190 NARRATOR: Roy optimistically told Walt 716 00:41:00,192 --> 00:41:02,759 that Cinderella would gross five or six million 717 00:41:02,761 --> 00:41:04,928 after those first reviews. 718 00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:06,596 It made nearly eight million. 719 00:41:06,598 --> 00:41:08,898 It's like a dream! 720 00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:11,034 A wonderful dream come true! 721 00:41:11,036 --> 00:41:13,369 Yes, my child. 722 00:41:13,371 --> 00:41:15,038 NARRATOR: Walt was happy to have the financial cushion 723 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,439 the film provided his studio 724 00:41:16,441 --> 00:41:20,043 and happy to have the good reviews, 725 00:41:20,045 --> 00:41:23,213 but he saw all the movie's imperfections 726 00:41:23,215 --> 00:41:24,814 and every corner cut. 727 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:28,751 It was no Snow White, as far as he was concerned. 728 00:41:30,889 --> 00:41:33,790 His interest remained elsewhere. 729 00:41:38,897 --> 00:41:42,799 WATTS: He builds a scale model of the old Marceline barn 730 00:41:42,801 --> 00:41:46,469 out behind his house in the middle of Holmby Hills. 731 00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:49,005 And he's out there in overalls and a flannel shirt 732 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:52,976 and a train engineer hat, just monkeying around for hours 733 00:41:52,978 --> 00:41:57,514 with designing the track and building the engine. 734 00:41:57,516 --> 00:41:59,449 RICHARD SCHICKEL: It was funny, you know, 735 00:41:59,451 --> 00:42:02,585 you would see those pictures of him 736 00:42:02,587 --> 00:42:04,988 with his train, you know, 737 00:42:04,990 --> 00:42:07,056 the train that went around his house. 738 00:42:07,058 --> 00:42:11,628 And I think there was pleasure in that for him. 739 00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:26,309 It was the toy he never had as a little kid. 740 00:42:26,311 --> 00:42:30,980 Something that was just pure fun and pleasure for him to do. 741 00:42:44,963 --> 00:42:47,063 NARRATOR: There was more in that train 742 00:42:47,065 --> 00:42:49,198 than just fun and games for Walt. 743 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,102 When Salvador Dali made a visit to Walt's house, 744 00:42:53,104 --> 00:42:57,073 the famous painter understood what Walt was up to. 745 00:42:57,075 --> 00:43:00,143 Disney was seeking an ideal, 746 00:43:00,145 --> 00:43:03,680 and Dali was taken aback at the ambition of it. 747 00:43:03,682 --> 00:43:07,483 "Such perfection," the surrealist told Walt, 748 00:43:07,485 --> 00:43:10,753 "did not belong to models." 749 00:43:13,592 --> 00:43:19,262 KOEHN: It's comfort and salvation and a working surface 750 00:43:19,264 --> 00:43:21,698 for the disappointments and confusions 751 00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:26,102 that comes to him in that period of his life. 752 00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,404 "I can't control my workers, it turns out. 753 00:43:28,406 --> 00:43:30,340 "I can't control the larger stage right now. 754 00:43:30,342 --> 00:43:32,742 "I can't even completely control my company. 755 00:43:32,744 --> 00:43:36,846 "So here's a world I can recreate 756 00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:39,882 "down to the smallest detail, 757 00:43:39,884 --> 00:43:43,886 "down to tunnels under my wife's flower bed 758 00:43:43,888 --> 00:43:51,394 that is mine and perfect and brought to life and safe." 759 00:44:10,882 --> 00:44:14,150 NARRATOR: Lillian Disney could sense something big brewing 760 00:44:14,152 --> 00:44:16,552 in early 1952. 761 00:44:16,554 --> 00:44:19,922 It was one of those moments, she would say, 762 00:44:19,924 --> 00:44:22,492 "when Walt's imagination 763 00:44:22,494 --> 00:44:24,961 "was going to take off into the wild blue yonder 764 00:44:24,963 --> 00:44:27,497 and everything will explode." 765 00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:31,768 Walt, Lillian noted, 766 00:44:31,770 --> 00:44:35,004 was liquidating long-held family assets. 767 00:44:35,006 --> 00:44:38,241 Her husband sold their Palm Springs vacation home 768 00:44:38,243 --> 00:44:42,645 and borrowed $100,000 against his life insurance policy. 769 00:44:42,647 --> 00:44:45,214 He even sold rights to his own name, 770 00:44:45,216 --> 00:44:47,917 to Walt Disney Productions. 771 00:44:47,919 --> 00:44:51,421 Then he started an entirely new company 772 00:44:51,423 --> 00:44:55,725 for an entirely new enterprise. 773 00:45:00,465 --> 00:45:04,600 WATTS: He gets a little building, the back part of the studio lot, 774 00:45:04,602 --> 00:45:07,704 and he creates this organization called WED, 775 00:45:07,706 --> 00:45:13,676 which were his initials: Walter Elias Disney. 776 00:45:13,678 --> 00:45:16,212 GABLER: "I'll get a few guys, 777 00:45:16,214 --> 00:45:18,347 "just like we did when we were making Mickey Mouse, 778 00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:20,650 and we'll come up with some ideas." 779 00:45:20,652 --> 00:45:22,652 So that's what WED is. 780 00:45:22,654 --> 00:45:24,554 WED is the old days. 781 00:45:28,393 --> 00:45:31,694 NARRATOR: Walt Disney had one very specific vision in mind, 782 00:45:31,696 --> 00:45:34,230 and he had already drawn up plans 783 00:45:34,232 --> 00:45:36,099 for building this new project 784 00:45:36,101 --> 00:45:39,535 on a vacant lot he owned next to his studio. 785 00:45:39,537 --> 00:45:44,440 Disney had actually been kicking around the idea for years. 786 00:45:44,442 --> 00:45:47,076 ALICE M. DAVIS: When he had his girls and they were very young, 787 00:45:47,078 --> 00:45:50,146 he wanted to take them to places they would have fun. 788 00:45:50,148 --> 00:45:53,249 But every time he'd go to see a carnival or something else, 789 00:45:53,251 --> 00:45:55,184 the men were all filthy, dirty looking, 790 00:45:55,186 --> 00:45:56,886 and the place was filthy. 791 00:45:56,888 --> 00:46:00,123 And he said, "I want a place 792 00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:04,026 where people can take a family and have a good time." 793 00:46:04,028 --> 00:46:06,362 Whenever he thought of something, 794 00:46:06,364 --> 00:46:10,700 it kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 795 00:46:10,702 --> 00:46:15,538 NARRATOR: Disney first dubbed the park Mickey Mouse Village, 796 00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:19,075 but then hit on Disneyland. 797 00:46:19,077 --> 00:46:23,446 By the end of 1952, the plans for Disneyland 798 00:46:23,448 --> 00:46:25,782 had outgrown the little eight-acre lot 799 00:46:25,784 --> 00:46:27,583 next to his studio. 800 00:46:27,585 --> 00:46:30,720 He started culling talent from the Disney production team 801 00:46:30,722 --> 00:46:32,755 and sending them to WED. 802 00:46:32,757 --> 00:46:34,724 "I want you to work on Disneyland," 803 00:46:34,726 --> 00:46:37,527 he told one slightly confused layout artist, 804 00:46:37,529 --> 00:46:40,797 "and you're going to like it." 805 00:46:40,799 --> 00:46:43,866 GABLER: Roy thinks it's a nutty idea. 806 00:46:43,868 --> 00:46:45,835 "An amusement park? 807 00:46:45,837 --> 00:46:47,970 "And an amusement park that's going to cost 808 00:46:47,972 --> 00:46:51,641 tens of millions of dollars, and it's not going to work." 809 00:46:58,817 --> 00:47:03,186 SUSAN DOUGLAS: Amusement parks were carnival-esque places. 810 00:47:03,188 --> 00:47:05,321 These were places where you went 811 00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:09,559 to have your sensations stimulated 812 00:47:09,561 --> 00:47:13,596 by very, very fast rides, 813 00:47:13,598 --> 00:47:17,133 by carnival barkers inviting you in 814 00:47:17,135 --> 00:47:20,903 to see Tom Thumb or the Giant Lady. 815 00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:28,744 These were places where you went to have the rules not apply. 816 00:47:33,484 --> 00:47:35,151 When Walt told Mrs. Disney 817 00:47:35,153 --> 00:47:37,386 that he was going to start a park... 818 00:47:40,058 --> 00:47:41,958 ...she said, "Why would you want to do that? 819 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,026 "They're not safe. 820 00:47:44,028 --> 00:47:47,763 The people in them are not people you want to be around." 821 00:47:50,602 --> 00:47:53,269 And Walt said, "Mine's not going to be like that." 822 00:47:56,074 --> 00:47:58,975 NARRATOR: Disney's newest notion was not unlike 823 00:47:58,977 --> 00:48:02,778 his very first commercially successful idea. 824 00:48:02,780 --> 00:48:05,047 Just as he had inserted the real Alice 825 00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:06,782 into a cartoon world, 826 00:48:06,784 --> 00:48:10,820 Walt thought he could put real people inside a new adventure, 827 00:48:10,822 --> 00:48:13,556 live and three-dimensional. 828 00:48:13,558 --> 00:48:16,893 He would construct the make-believe world for them, 829 00:48:16,895 --> 00:48:19,495 just as he had constructed his railroad. 830 00:48:19,497 --> 00:48:23,799 RON SUSKIND: This is a "leap from the tub, 831 00:48:23,801 --> 00:48:26,869 eureka, run down the street" moment here. 832 00:48:26,871 --> 00:48:29,138 I mean, just think about that. 833 00:48:29,140 --> 00:48:32,475 "I am gonna take what these movies have done, 834 00:48:32,477 --> 00:48:34,277 "these landscapes that we've invented 835 00:48:34,279 --> 00:48:37,847 "that are just drawings on paper and colored pencils, 836 00:48:37,849 --> 00:48:39,882 "I'm gonna create a place 837 00:48:39,884 --> 00:48:43,452 where you can actually walk within it." 838 00:48:46,257 --> 00:48:52,461 This is kicking down many walls of perspective and reality. 839 00:48:52,463 --> 00:48:54,630 Disney has this great idea for building Disneyland. 840 00:48:54,632 --> 00:48:55,798 Now, one problem: 841 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,133 where's the money going to come from? 842 00:49:00,038 --> 00:49:01,604 So you see, this is the result 843 00:49:01,606 --> 00:49:03,172 of being a good boy for 30 years. 844 00:49:03,174 --> 00:49:04,407 Santa finally came across. 845 00:49:04,409 --> 00:49:06,042 See the little shovel in there? 846 00:49:06,044 --> 00:49:07,376 See that thing there? 847 00:49:07,378 --> 00:49:08,377 This up here, this is the... 848 00:49:08,379 --> 00:49:09,378 (whistling) 849 00:49:09,380 --> 00:49:10,379 ...whistle. 850 00:49:10,381 --> 00:49:11,747 Mr. Disney... 851 00:49:11,749 --> 00:49:13,182 NARRATOR: Disney had been looking for the best way 852 00:49:13,184 --> 00:49:15,384 to exploit the new medium of television 853 00:49:15,386 --> 00:49:17,420 since the late 1940s. 854 00:49:17,422 --> 00:49:20,256 He had even taken it for a test drive in 1950, 855 00:49:20,258 --> 00:49:22,425 hosting a one-off Christmas special, 856 00:49:22,427 --> 00:49:25,928 One Hour in Wonderland, to promote one of his films. 857 00:49:25,930 --> 00:49:29,966 The Disney program drew 90% of the viewing audience 858 00:49:29,968 --> 00:49:32,168 and gushing reviews. 859 00:49:32,170 --> 00:49:35,471 "Walt Disney can take over television any time he likes," 860 00:49:35,473 --> 00:49:37,473 the New York Times suggested. 861 00:49:37,475 --> 00:49:40,309 You kids help me with the magic words. 862 00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:44,347 Bippity-boppity-boo! 863 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,287 NARRATOR: The three major networks 864 00:49:51,289 --> 00:49:54,056 had been asking Disney for more shows ever since, 865 00:49:54,058 --> 00:49:58,861 and by the summer of 1953, Walt was hot to make a deal. 866 00:49:58,863 --> 00:50:01,831 Roy traveled to New York to make an offer 867 00:50:01,833 --> 00:50:05,101 to each of the major television networks. 868 00:50:05,103 --> 00:50:08,270 The Disneys were willing to produce a weekly show, 869 00:50:08,272 --> 00:50:09,672 but for a price: 870 00:50:09,674 --> 00:50:12,241 the network that got the show would have to provide 871 00:50:12,243 --> 00:50:14,977 much of the five million dollars the brothers needed 872 00:50:14,979 --> 00:50:17,680 for the construction of Disneyland. 873 00:50:17,682 --> 00:50:21,851 Just two days before the pitch meetings, on a Saturday, 874 00:50:21,853 --> 00:50:26,088 Roy decided he needed a sales tool that didn't yet exist: 875 00:50:26,090 --> 00:50:29,291 a drawing of the entire park. 876 00:50:29,293 --> 00:50:31,293 Disneyland, at that point, 877 00:50:31,295 --> 00:50:33,396 was still largely in Walt's head, 878 00:50:33,398 --> 00:50:36,165 and his head alone. 879 00:50:36,167 --> 00:50:37,733 Roy called Walt 880 00:50:37,735 --> 00:50:40,069 and Walt called an old Disney art director 881 00:50:40,071 --> 00:50:41,570 and begged him to help-- 882 00:50:41,572 --> 00:50:44,306 "Like a little boy with tears in his eyes," 883 00:50:44,308 --> 00:50:46,375 Herb Ryman recalled. 884 00:50:46,377 --> 00:50:51,013 Walt stayed at Ryman's side for more than 42 hours straight, 885 00:50:51,015 --> 00:50:53,582 delivering him sandwiches and milkshakes 886 00:50:53,584 --> 00:50:55,518 and describing what he wanted 887 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,187 through billows of cigarette smoke. 888 00:50:58,189 --> 00:51:00,456 HAHN: So Walt can stand there 889 00:51:00,458 --> 00:51:02,291 and direct him around and say, "No, make the castle bigger, 890 00:51:02,293 --> 00:51:03,793 "and let's put Frontierland over here, 891 00:51:03,795 --> 00:51:06,228 and maybe there's gonna be an Indian village," 892 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:09,532 and direct the orchestra. 893 00:51:09,534 --> 00:51:11,033 It's like Walt can stand there and go, 894 00:51:11,035 --> 00:51:12,368 "A little more viola, please," 895 00:51:12,370 --> 00:51:13,869 and have Herb Ryman lay out this whole plan. 896 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:33,556 NARRATOR: The two men put the drawing on a plane that Monday, 897 00:51:33,558 --> 00:51:37,426 but Roy still had a hard time sealing the deal. 898 00:51:37,428 --> 00:51:40,129 NBC and CBS had no interest 899 00:51:40,131 --> 00:51:44,467 in putting up the money for something called Disneyland. 900 00:51:44,469 --> 00:51:46,335 It took Roy months 901 00:51:46,337 --> 00:51:49,605 to convince the perennial third-place network, ABC, 902 00:51:49,607 --> 00:51:51,507 to take the bait. 903 00:51:51,509 --> 00:51:53,542 Walt later joked, 904 00:51:53,544 --> 00:51:56,946 "ABC needed the television show so damned bad 905 00:51:56,948 --> 00:52:00,416 that they bought the amusement park." 906 00:52:10,194 --> 00:52:13,395 SCHICKEL: That was a pretty dangerous moment for him, 907 00:52:13,397 --> 00:52:14,997 corporately speaking. 908 00:52:14,999 --> 00:52:16,432 Will it be a success? 909 00:52:16,434 --> 00:52:17,766 Will it be a failure? 910 00:52:17,768 --> 00:52:18,934 If it's a failure, 911 00:52:18,936 --> 00:52:21,103 the whole company is kind of on the line. 912 00:52:23,941 --> 00:52:30,079 HIGGINBOTHAM: He saw this as his personal statement about who he was, 913 00:52:30,081 --> 00:52:35,151 who the Walt Disney company was, and who he thought America was. 914 00:52:35,153 --> 00:52:38,954 He believed in this so strongly. 915 00:52:52,336 --> 00:52:55,604 NARRATOR: Disney's plans for the 160-acre building site 916 00:52:55,606 --> 00:52:58,607 in Anaheim, California, 917 00:52:58,609 --> 00:53:01,744 called for 5,000 cubic yards of concrete, 918 00:53:01,746 --> 00:53:05,080 a million square feet of asphalt pathways, 919 00:53:05,082 --> 00:53:09,418 and acres of flowers and greenery. 920 00:53:09,420 --> 00:53:13,689 The designs included a three-quarters-scale replica 921 00:53:13,691 --> 00:53:15,724 of an 1890s Main Street, 922 00:53:15,726 --> 00:53:19,361 suspiciously similar to Walt's memories of Marceline; 923 00:53:19,363 --> 00:53:20,829 man-made riverbeds 924 00:53:20,831 --> 00:53:22,898 for the steamboat in Frontierland 925 00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:25,334 and the Jungle Cruise in Adventureland; 926 00:53:25,336 --> 00:53:27,703 and a Bavarian-style castle 927 00:53:27,705 --> 00:53:32,274 towering 80 feet above Fantasyland. 928 00:53:32,276 --> 00:53:35,377 There were also plans for more than a mile 929 00:53:35,379 --> 00:53:38,414 of narrow-gauge railroad track ringing the park, 930 00:53:38,416 --> 00:53:41,217 and beyond that, a 20-foot-high berm 931 00:53:41,219 --> 00:53:45,254 so that the real world could not intrude. 932 00:53:45,256 --> 00:53:48,090 BOB GURR: The first time I ever saw Disneyland, 933 00:53:48,092 --> 00:53:49,925 it was a great big dusty place 934 00:53:49,927 --> 00:53:51,560 full of bulldozers 935 00:53:51,562 --> 00:53:53,395 and orange trees being knocked down 936 00:53:53,397 --> 00:53:55,231 and concrete forms being built. 937 00:53:55,233 --> 00:53:58,534 And when I first saw it, I thought, 938 00:53:58,536 --> 00:54:01,036 "We're going to open in six months? 939 00:54:01,038 --> 00:54:03,672 How in the world are they ever going to do this?" 940 00:54:12,016 --> 00:54:15,251 NARRATOR: The desire for escape and amusement was growing 941 00:54:15,253 --> 00:54:16,885 in mid-'50s America, 942 00:54:16,887 --> 00:54:20,689 and more and more people had the means of pursuit. 943 00:54:20,691 --> 00:54:25,261 Americans were fanning out into the suburbs. 944 00:54:25,263 --> 00:54:27,029 More families than ever before 945 00:54:27,031 --> 00:54:29,198 had a television set in the living room 946 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,301 and extra cash in the family paycheck 947 00:54:32,303 --> 00:54:35,971 for entertainment, travel, toys. 948 00:54:35,973 --> 00:54:40,142 The biggest generation America had ever seen, 949 00:54:40,144 --> 00:54:44,213 the Baby Boomers, had reached school age. 950 00:54:44,215 --> 00:54:46,682 These children were not yet old enough 951 00:54:46,684 --> 00:54:48,617 to drive the family car, 952 00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:52,354 but they were old enough to drive family spending. 953 00:54:52,356 --> 00:54:56,458 DOUGLAS: These kids are eight and nine years old, 954 00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:59,528 and they're looking for a kind of set of cultural values 955 00:54:59,530 --> 00:55:01,797 that are a bit different 956 00:55:01,799 --> 00:55:06,368 from the privations of the Depression and the war. 957 00:55:06,370 --> 00:55:08,137 TV ANNOUNCER: American Motors, 958 00:55:08,139 --> 00:55:09,838 builders of Nash Automobiles, 959 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,043 Kelvinator home appliances, and Hudson Motor Cars... 960 00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:21,650 ...present Walt Disney's Disneyland! 961 00:55:21,652 --> 00:55:25,721 ¶ When you wish upon a star ¶ 962 00:55:25,723 --> 00:55:30,759 ¶ Makes no difference who you are. ¶ 963 00:55:30,761 --> 00:55:34,530 ANNOUNCER: Each week, as you enter this timeless land, 964 00:55:34,532 --> 00:55:37,566 one of these many worlds will open to you. 965 00:55:37,568 --> 00:55:41,303 Here now to tell you about it is Walt Disney. 966 00:55:41,305 --> 00:55:42,738 Welcome. 967 00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:45,874 I guess you all know this little fellow here. 968 00:55:45,876 --> 00:55:47,910 It's an old partnership. 969 00:55:47,912 --> 00:55:52,915 SKLAR: I think he was one of the great salesmen of our time 970 00:55:52,917 --> 00:55:55,184 because he never tried to sell something 971 00:55:55,186 --> 00:55:57,820 he didn't personally believe in. 972 00:55:57,822 --> 00:55:59,521 Now we want you to share with us 973 00:55:59,523 --> 00:56:02,791 our latest and greatest dream. 974 00:56:02,793 --> 00:56:05,294 That's it right here. 975 00:56:05,296 --> 00:56:07,262 Disneyland. 976 00:56:07,264 --> 00:56:09,631 Seen from about 2,000 feet in the air 977 00:56:09,633 --> 00:56:12,301 and ten months away. 978 00:56:12,303 --> 00:56:18,741 GABLER: Now Walt Disney is creating anticipation for Disneyland. 979 00:56:18,743 --> 00:56:21,777 And he's making people feel, particularly children, 980 00:56:21,779 --> 00:56:23,746 "This is the most magical place. 981 00:56:23,748 --> 00:56:25,681 You have to come here." 982 00:56:25,683 --> 00:56:28,450 He makes it a destination. 983 00:56:28,452 --> 00:56:30,886 We hope that through our television show 984 00:56:30,888 --> 00:56:32,221 that you will join us 985 00:56:32,223 --> 00:56:33,856 and take part in the building of Disneyland, 986 00:56:33,858 --> 00:56:36,091 and that you will find here 987 00:56:36,093 --> 00:56:37,893 a place of knowledge and happiness. 988 00:56:37,895 --> 00:56:39,561 SARAH NILSEN: He was very humble and open 989 00:56:39,563 --> 00:56:41,764 and seemed very accessible. 990 00:56:41,766 --> 00:56:44,233 At the same time, he'd never condescend. 991 00:56:44,235 --> 00:56:48,437 He always talked to children as peers, as equals. 992 00:56:48,439 --> 00:56:50,305 But this year... 993 00:56:50,307 --> 00:56:53,742 HIGGINBOTHAM: Walt becomes the master of dreams and hopes 994 00:56:53,744 --> 00:56:56,145 not in an off-putting way, 995 00:56:56,147 --> 00:57:00,416 not in a way that feels unrelateable. 996 00:57:00,418 --> 00:57:02,117 Now, at the foot of Main Street, 997 00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:04,686 about where you're sitting, is the plaza. 998 00:57:04,688 --> 00:57:07,022 HIGGINBOTHAM: He's actually an individual 999 00:57:07,024 --> 00:57:08,957 who could make your dreams come true. 1000 00:57:08,959 --> 00:57:12,261 DISNEY: Shooting out from here, like the four cardinal points. 1001 00:57:12,263 --> 00:57:13,695 NARRATOR: The Disneyland TV show 1002 00:57:13,697 --> 00:57:17,266 featured a different hour-long offering every week, 1003 00:57:17,268 --> 00:57:20,502 each show mapped onto one of the four realms 1004 00:57:20,504 --> 00:57:22,838 at the theme park Walt was building. 1005 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,776 DISNEY: They are Adventureland... 1006 00:57:27,778 --> 00:57:31,914 Tomorrowland... 1007 00:57:31,916 --> 00:57:35,851 Fantasyland... 1008 00:57:35,853 --> 00:57:38,287 ...and Frontierland. 1009 00:57:38,289 --> 00:57:40,422 NARRATOR: It was a Frontierland offering, 1010 00:57:40,424 --> 00:57:43,759 "Tall tales and true from the legendary past," 1011 00:57:43,761 --> 00:57:46,395 that became the talk of the schoolyard. 1012 00:57:46,397 --> 00:57:49,264 Now, in our TV series from Frontierland, 1013 00:57:49,266 --> 00:57:52,568 we're going to tell about these real people who became legend, 1014 00:57:52,570 --> 00:57:54,369 like Davy Crockett. 1015 00:57:54,371 --> 00:57:57,539 NARRATOR: Davy Crockett aired on three separate Wednesdays 1016 00:57:57,541 --> 00:58:02,077 from December of 1954 to February of 1955. 1017 00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:05,147 TV ANNOUNCER: Davy Crockett, Indian Fighter. 1018 00:58:05,149 --> 00:58:07,716 NARRATOR: Children across the country fell hard 1019 00:58:07,718 --> 00:58:10,385 for the larger-than-life frontiersman. 1020 00:58:10,387 --> 00:58:13,188 ¶ ¶ 1021 00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:16,158 DOUGLAS: Davy Crockett was homespun, 1022 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,696 plain spoken, tough, enterprising. 1023 00:58:20,698 --> 00:58:26,368 He was the rugged individual who triumphed over everything. 1024 00:58:26,370 --> 00:58:31,773 He really embodied a nostalgic, idealized view 1025 00:58:31,775 --> 00:58:35,177 of American male values. 1026 00:58:35,179 --> 00:58:39,448 DOUGLAS BRODE: Davy Crockett is incredibly anti-authoritarian 1027 00:58:39,450 --> 00:58:42,284 in a way no other Western hero for kids were 1028 00:58:42,286 --> 00:58:44,419 at that time. 1029 00:58:44,421 --> 00:58:47,723 When Davy Crockett arrives at Andrew Jackson's camp, 1030 00:58:47,725 --> 00:58:50,325 the first thing he does is disobey orders. 1031 00:58:50,327 --> 00:58:52,060 Excuse me, General. 1032 00:58:52,062 --> 00:58:53,962 Well, what do you want? 1033 00:58:53,964 --> 00:58:55,097 Well, nothing much. 1034 00:58:55,099 --> 00:58:56,398 Dropped in to say goodbye. 1035 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,599 Goodbye? 1036 00:58:57,601 --> 00:58:59,134 Where do you think you're going? 1037 00:58:59,136 --> 00:59:00,836 Home. 1038 00:59:00,838 --> 00:59:03,238 You're going after Red Stick with the rest of my command. 1039 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,673 This war isn't over yet. 1040 00:59:04,675 --> 00:59:05,908 I ain't quitting the war. 1041 00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:07,576 Me and my neighbors will be back directly. 1042 00:59:07,578 --> 00:59:10,379 You see, General, we only volunteered for 60 days, 1043 00:59:10,381 --> 00:59:11,647 and that's long since up. 1044 00:59:11,649 --> 00:59:12,915 Catching Red Stick 1045 00:59:12,917 --> 00:59:14,216 is liable to take up the rest of the year. 1046 00:59:14,218 --> 00:59:16,218 We've gotta see our families is took care of 1047 00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:18,020 before we start in on anything like that. 1048 00:59:18,022 --> 00:59:19,888 Well, Major? 1049 00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:22,925 Desertion is a serious crime in the army, Crockett! 1050 00:59:22,927 --> 00:59:24,393 I ain't quitting the war. 1051 00:59:24,395 --> 00:59:25,761 I told you we was coming back. 1052 00:59:25,763 --> 00:59:27,229 You're confined to this camp. 1053 00:59:27,231 --> 00:59:28,397 That's an order! 1054 00:59:28,399 --> 00:59:30,999 My misses would worry about me. 1055 00:59:31,001 --> 00:59:33,435 Sorry, General. 1056 00:59:33,437 --> 00:59:37,039 BRODE: Disney films told children to emulate Davy Crockett, 1057 00:59:37,041 --> 00:59:39,107 and that means, 1058 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:41,443 "Listen to your own inner self. 1059 00:59:41,445 --> 00:59:45,414 "Do not do what authoritarian figures tell you to do 1060 00:59:45,416 --> 00:59:47,249 if you believe they're wrong." 1061 00:59:47,251 --> 00:59:50,052 Pa's back! 1062 00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:52,688 Oh Davy, you're back! 1063 00:59:52,690 --> 00:59:53,822 Hello, Pa! 1064 00:59:53,824 --> 00:59:55,157 Hi, Pa! 1065 00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:57,292 WATTS: The ratings just went through the roof, 1066 00:59:57,294 --> 00:59:59,828 and as the serialized segments came on, 1067 00:59:59,830 --> 01:00:01,330 they got bigger and bigger and bigger. 1068 01:00:01,332 --> 01:00:04,566 NARRATOR: By the time the third and final episode 1069 01:00:04,568 --> 01:00:06,969 of Davy Crockett aired, 1070 01:00:06,971 --> 01:00:11,506 a quarter of the entire American population was tuned in. 1071 01:00:11,508 --> 01:00:14,643 ¶ Born on the mountaintop in Tennessee... ¶ 1072 01:00:14,645 --> 01:00:18,413 NARRATOR: The show's theme song became a Number One hit record. 1073 01:00:18,415 --> 01:00:22,517 Boys and girls across America were sporting coonskin caps, 1074 01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:24,953 just like the one their hero wore. 1075 01:00:24,955 --> 01:00:31,093 ¶ Davy, Davy Crockett, king of the wild frontier... ¶ 1076 01:00:32,796 --> 01:00:34,963 GABLER: The Davy Crockett series 1077 01:00:34,965 --> 01:00:38,400 was one of those things that hits American culture 1078 01:00:38,402 --> 01:00:41,703 in a way that only a handful of things 1079 01:00:41,705 --> 01:00:45,874 ever hits American culture: Elvis Presley, the Beatles, 1080 01:00:45,876 --> 01:00:49,478 you know, Davy Crockett was kind of like that. 1081 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,447 It was a sensation. 1082 01:00:52,449 --> 01:00:58,286 NARRATOR: Davy Crockett even proved a powerful pop culture symbol 1083 01:00:58,288 --> 01:00:59,955 in the Cold War 1084 01:00:59,957 --> 01:01:02,290 between the United States and the Soviet Union, 1085 01:01:02,292 --> 01:01:04,326 a battle of ideologies 1086 01:01:04,328 --> 01:01:08,630 fought with words and pictures and stories. 1087 01:01:08,632 --> 01:01:10,999 WATTS: Davy Crockett's famous saying was, 1088 01:01:11,001 --> 01:01:13,769 "Be sure you're right, and then go ahead." 1089 01:01:13,771 --> 01:01:16,171 And I think that's what Americans 1090 01:01:16,173 --> 01:01:19,775 wanted to think about themselves in the Cold War. 1091 01:01:19,777 --> 01:01:21,576 "We're sure we're right, 1092 01:01:21,578 --> 01:01:23,478 and by God, we're going to go ahead." 1093 01:01:54,578 --> 01:01:56,545 ¶ ¶ 1094 01:02:16,734 --> 01:02:20,535 GABLER: His animations created a perfect and artificial world, 1095 01:02:20,537 --> 01:02:22,404 and what he was really doing is 1096 01:02:22,406 --> 01:02:26,174 he was making that material in Disneyland. 1097 01:02:26,176 --> 01:02:29,978 He always thought of Disneyland as a living animation, 1098 01:02:29,980 --> 01:02:31,613 a living movie. 1099 01:02:31,615 --> 01:02:35,751 And he thought people would love to enter a film, 1100 01:02:35,753 --> 01:02:38,386 not just watch it. 1101 01:02:38,388 --> 01:02:42,224 SKLAR: You're walking into the story. 1102 01:02:42,226 --> 01:02:45,660 And the things that we worked so hard-- 1103 01:02:45,662 --> 01:02:49,998 and this was Walt-- that we worked so hard to avoid 1104 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,833 is letting people out of the story 1105 01:02:51,835 --> 01:02:53,735 with discordant details: 1106 01:02:53,737 --> 01:02:57,339 something out of the time period that doesn't work. 1107 01:02:57,341 --> 01:03:00,342 Even the trash cans in the park 1108 01:03:00,344 --> 01:03:03,912 are for that particular story, that theme. 1109 01:03:07,818 --> 01:03:10,786 NARRATOR: Walt was down in Anaheim almost every day. 1110 01:03:10,788 --> 01:03:13,855 He would walk every inch of the construction site, 1111 01:03:13,857 --> 01:03:16,925 barking orders: 1112 01:03:16,927 --> 01:03:18,760 "Move that gazebo! 1113 01:03:18,762 --> 01:03:20,595 "It's blocking the view of the castle. 1114 01:03:20,597 --> 01:03:22,464 "Can we make that lake bigger? 1115 01:03:22,466 --> 01:03:24,499 "Move the train wreck 50 feet! 1116 01:03:24,501 --> 01:03:26,768 "That tree's too close to the walkway! 1117 01:03:26,770 --> 01:03:28,637 How about moving it?" 1118 01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:31,640 Never mind it weighed 15 tons. 1119 01:03:34,878 --> 01:03:38,513 GURR: Walt was literally down there every day, watching everything. 1120 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,022 But never distraught, never negative, 1121 01:03:47,024 --> 01:03:49,157 just urging everybody on, 1122 01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:51,293 exploring all the ways how to fix stuff. 1123 01:03:51,295 --> 01:03:54,963 GABLER: Walt is interested in every blade of grass. 1124 01:03:54,965 --> 01:03:57,132 He's interested in every leaf on a tree. 1125 01:03:57,134 --> 01:03:59,768 He's interested in where everything is placed. 1126 01:03:59,770 --> 01:04:01,636 There's not an attraction 1127 01:04:01,638 --> 01:04:05,574 that Walt Disney isn't deeply involved in. 1128 01:04:08,045 --> 01:04:10,045 NARRATOR: Disney's constant demands 1129 01:04:10,047 --> 01:04:13,048 put the entire operation behind the eight-ball, 1130 01:04:13,050 --> 01:04:15,116 as did his stubborn insistence 1131 01:04:15,118 --> 01:04:18,954 to get Disneyland up and running in a hurry. 1132 01:04:18,956 --> 01:04:21,723 Six weeks from his announced opening date, 1133 01:04:21,725 --> 01:04:23,992 panic was starting to set in. 1134 01:04:23,994 --> 01:04:27,495 The entrance plaza was not yet landscaped; 1135 01:04:27,497 --> 01:04:32,667 Main Street was unpaved, the castle unfinished; 1136 01:04:32,669 --> 01:04:36,071 the Jungle Cruise boats were moving, 1137 01:04:36,073 --> 01:04:39,774 but the robotic animals had yet to be installed. 1138 01:04:39,776 --> 01:04:42,210 As opening day approached, 1139 01:04:42,212 --> 01:04:44,412 less than half of the planned attractions 1140 01:04:44,414 --> 01:04:47,983 were ready to receive visitors, and members of the WED staff 1141 01:04:47,985 --> 01:04:51,186 were lobbying to push back the opening. 1142 01:04:51,188 --> 01:04:55,657 Walt was uninterested in the naysayers. 1143 01:04:55,659 --> 01:04:58,193 He just kept pushing harder. 1144 01:04:58,195 --> 01:05:03,098 The construction crew tripled in the final weeks 1145 01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:08,003 to 2,500 men, many of whom were working 16 hours a day. 1146 01:05:08,005 --> 01:05:12,274 Costs climbed to more than $17 million, 1147 01:05:12,276 --> 01:05:14,843 more than three times the estimate made 1148 01:05:14,845 --> 01:05:16,878 when construction began. 1149 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,080 SKLAR: So many things were finished at the last minute. 1150 01:05:19,082 --> 01:05:22,918 There was a plumbers' strike in Orange County 1151 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,821 which was settled about a day before Disneyland opened, 1152 01:05:26,823 --> 01:05:28,590 so Walt had the choice 1153 01:05:28,592 --> 01:05:32,827 of finishing the bathrooms or the drinking fountains. 1154 01:05:32,829 --> 01:05:35,463 And of course he chose the bathrooms. 1155 01:05:35,465 --> 01:05:38,800 NARRATOR: "People can buy Pepsi-Cola," Disney explained, 1156 01:05:38,802 --> 01:05:41,136 "but they can't pee in the street." 1157 01:05:41,138 --> 01:05:44,272 GURR: Well, the interesting thing about Walt, 1158 01:05:44,274 --> 01:05:47,676 just before the park was getting ready to open, 1159 01:05:47,678 --> 01:05:49,744 he was so excited. 1160 01:05:49,746 --> 01:05:51,012 Like a proud father. 1161 01:05:51,014 --> 01:05:52,247 Look what he's got now! 1162 01:05:52,249 --> 01:05:56,051 That was Walt at his best: 1163 01:05:56,053 --> 01:06:00,722 his enthusiasm of pursuing where he wanted to go, 1164 01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:05,493 and everybody was just going to follow him right along. 1165 01:06:05,495 --> 01:06:10,565 NARRATOR: The park was a-bustle the day before the opening. 1166 01:06:10,567 --> 01:06:13,068 ABC was setting its cameras 1167 01:06:13,070 --> 01:06:15,603 and running rehearsals for the next day's broadcast, 1168 01:06:15,605 --> 01:06:18,473 which was planned as the biggest and most ambitious 1169 01:06:18,475 --> 01:06:22,210 live telecast ever. 1170 01:06:22,212 --> 01:06:24,346 One work crew was frantically trying to dig out 1171 01:06:24,348 --> 01:06:26,748 the 900-pound mechanical elephant 1172 01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:28,650 that was sinking into the Jungle River. 1173 01:06:28,652 --> 01:06:32,387 Another was adding lead weights to the front of the train engine 1174 01:06:32,389 --> 01:06:34,589 to make sure it didn't tip backward. 1175 01:06:34,591 --> 01:06:38,026 Painters were settling in for an all-nighter. 1176 01:06:38,028 --> 01:06:43,031 Walt himself put on a mask and helped spray-paint backdrops 1177 01:06:43,033 --> 01:06:45,667 for the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea exhibit. 1178 01:06:45,669 --> 01:06:51,306 He was still at Disneyland at 3:00 in the morning, 1179 01:06:51,308 --> 01:06:54,309 walking the grounds, barking orders. 1180 01:06:54,311 --> 01:06:56,978 "We need new murals for the trains! 1181 01:06:56,980 --> 01:06:59,314 Get me an artist!" 1182 01:07:08,959 --> 01:07:15,997 July 17, 1955 dawned unusually hot in Anaheim, California. 1183 01:07:15,999 --> 01:07:19,734 The temperature was already nearing 100 degrees 1184 01:07:19,736 --> 01:07:22,470 when word came that traffic into the park 1185 01:07:22,472 --> 01:07:26,341 was backed up for seven miles on Harbor Boulevard. 1186 01:07:28,145 --> 01:07:30,879 When the gates opened that afternoon, 1187 01:07:30,881 --> 01:07:32,147 people flooded in, 1188 01:07:32,149 --> 01:07:36,051 many of them waving counterfeit tickets. 1189 01:07:39,689 --> 01:07:42,590 You are now in the press room of Disneyland, 1190 01:07:42,592 --> 01:07:43,925 which is equipped to service 1191 01:07:43,927 --> 01:07:46,461 over 1,000 members of the worldwide press 1192 01:07:46,463 --> 01:07:48,863 here to cover this truly great event. 1193 01:07:48,865 --> 01:07:50,331 And to start the proceedings, 1194 01:07:50,333 --> 01:07:52,333 we take you to the entrance of Disneyland 1195 01:07:52,335 --> 01:07:54,702 and your host, Art Linkletter. 1196 01:07:54,704 --> 01:07:56,838 Well, this job in the next hour and a half 1197 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,073 is gonna be a delight. 1198 01:07:58,075 --> 01:07:59,474 I feel like... 1199 01:07:59,476 --> 01:08:01,009 Well, I feel like Santa Claus 1200 01:08:01,011 --> 01:08:03,578 with a $17 million bundle of gift packages 1201 01:08:03,580 --> 01:08:05,513 all wrapped in whimsy 1202 01:08:05,515 --> 01:08:07,882 and sent your way over television 1203 01:08:07,884 --> 01:08:11,886 with the help of 29 cameras, dozens of crews, 1204 01:08:11,888 --> 01:08:14,689 and literally miles and miles of cable. 1205 01:08:14,691 --> 01:08:16,891 Now of course, this is not so much a show 1206 01:08:16,893 --> 01:08:18,560 as it is a special event. 1207 01:08:18,562 --> 01:08:21,496 Hello, Walt! 1208 01:08:21,498 --> 01:08:23,364 Hello, Governor! 1209 01:08:23,366 --> 01:08:24,899 Hi, Art! 1210 01:08:24,901 --> 01:08:26,568 Hi! 1211 01:08:26,570 --> 01:08:27,735 How'd the run go? 1212 01:08:27,737 --> 01:08:29,604 Oh, fine, fine! 1213 01:08:29,606 --> 01:08:31,906 The Governor had her round through Frontierland 1214 01:08:31,908 --> 01:08:33,475 and then Fred Gurley there, he took her round, 1215 01:08:33,477 --> 01:08:35,743 I picked her up and brought her in. 1216 01:08:35,745 --> 01:08:38,746 WATTS: They have dozens of cameras all through the park, 1217 01:08:38,748 --> 01:08:42,417 and the hope is that they will go from this scene to that 1218 01:08:42,419 --> 01:08:45,854 and here to there and show all parts of the park. 1219 01:08:45,856 --> 01:08:49,524 And about half of it worked and half of it didn't. 1220 01:08:49,526 --> 01:08:52,193 Technology, of course, in the TV age in that period 1221 01:08:52,195 --> 01:08:53,528 was very crude. 1222 01:08:53,530 --> 01:08:55,230 It was live TV, 1223 01:08:55,232 --> 01:08:57,031 and there were a lot of screw-ups. 1224 01:08:57,033 --> 01:08:58,700 Bob Cummings up at the pirate ship, 1225 01:08:58,702 --> 01:08:59,601 we're back to you, boy! 1226 01:09:09,446 --> 01:09:10,945 Oh, you're waiting for me? 1227 01:09:10,947 --> 01:09:12,247 Oh, thank you! 1228 01:09:12,249 --> 01:09:14,415 Everybody is waving at Bob Cummings over here, 1229 01:09:14,417 --> 01:09:15,950 so I guess I'm back on. 1230 01:09:19,422 --> 01:09:20,989 Well, ladies and gentlemen, 1231 01:09:20,991 --> 01:09:22,657 it's Bob Cummings again, back with you. 1232 01:09:22,659 --> 01:09:24,626 And like the Peter Pan Fly-Through... 1233 01:09:33,904 --> 01:09:36,137 I'd like to read these few words of dedication. 1234 01:09:36,139 --> 01:09:39,541 "A vista into a world of wondrous ideas 1235 01:09:39,543 --> 01:09:42,977 signifying man's achievements..." 1236 01:09:42,979 --> 01:09:45,046 I thought I got a signal? 1237 01:09:45,048 --> 01:09:48,683 NARRATOR: The audience for the live broadcast that Sunday 1238 01:09:48,685 --> 01:09:51,553 was double Disney's normal number. 1239 01:09:51,555 --> 01:09:53,888 Nearly half of the American population 1240 01:09:53,890 --> 01:09:55,256 took in Disneyland 1241 01:09:55,258 --> 01:09:57,692 from the comfort of their own living rooms, 1242 01:09:57,694 --> 01:09:59,394 which had its advantages. 1243 01:09:59,396 --> 01:10:03,231 Fantasyland was closed by a nearby gas leak. 1244 01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:05,233 Mr. Toad's Wild Ride 1245 01:10:05,235 --> 01:10:07,936 succumbed to an overload of the park's power grid. 1246 01:10:07,938 --> 01:10:11,973 GURR: It was so hot. 1247 01:10:11,975 --> 01:10:15,243 It was just not a day you want to have that much heat. 1248 01:10:15,245 --> 01:10:21,015 The asphalt was still soft, 1249 01:10:21,017 --> 01:10:25,687 and gals with the high heels were going down in the asphalt. 1250 01:10:25,689 --> 01:10:28,423 CRUMP: The lines were so packed, we didn't try to eat 1251 01:10:28,425 --> 01:10:32,260 because the lines to get food was ridiculous. 1252 01:10:32,262 --> 01:10:35,163 The whole thing was a bit of a nightmare. 1253 01:10:35,165 --> 01:10:38,700 SKLAR: Oh, it was awful. 1254 01:10:38,702 --> 01:10:40,301 It was terrible. 1255 01:10:40,303 --> 01:10:43,771 There were rumors that some of the Hollywood personalities 1256 01:10:43,773 --> 01:10:47,108 were using language that shouldn't be heard by children. 1257 01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:48,309 (laughs) 1258 01:10:48,311 --> 01:10:50,044 NARRATOR: Newspaper reporters 1259 01:10:50,046 --> 01:10:52,680 were crawling all over the park that day, 1260 01:10:52,682 --> 01:10:55,683 filling their notebooks with mishaps and misadventures 1261 01:10:55,685 --> 01:10:57,552 for their next-day stories. 1262 01:10:57,554 --> 01:10:59,687 Walt didn't care. 1263 01:10:59,689 --> 01:11:03,725 His daughter Diane said she had never seen him happier. 1264 01:11:03,727 --> 01:11:06,361 Walt, you've made a bum out of Barnum today, 1265 01:11:06,363 --> 01:11:07,996 but we've gotta go. 1266 01:11:07,998 --> 01:11:10,031 I know, but I just want to say a word of thanks 1267 01:11:10,033 --> 01:11:12,700 to all the artists, the workers, 1268 01:11:12,702 --> 01:11:15,169 and everybody that helped make this dream come true. 1269 01:11:15,171 --> 01:11:17,238 Let's go into Fantasyland and have some fun. 1270 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,273 Goodbye, folks! 1271 01:11:32,289 --> 01:11:35,123 NARRATOR: Disneyland was thrown open to the public 1272 01:11:35,125 --> 01:11:36,924 the day after the gala opening, 1273 01:11:36,926 --> 01:11:40,261 and people began lining up at 2:00 that morning 1274 01:11:40,263 --> 01:11:43,331 for the chance to be the first ones through the gate. 1275 01:11:43,333 --> 01:11:48,936 The park drew a million visitors in its first ten weeks alone. 1276 01:11:48,938 --> 01:11:52,507 Pretty soon, there were five million per year, 1277 01:11:52,509 --> 01:11:56,577 and Walt's paradise had become a must-see 1278 01:11:56,579 --> 01:11:58,880 for foreign dignitaries on tour in the U.S. 1279 01:11:58,882 --> 01:12:03,051 Prime Minister Nehru of India touched down in the park, 1280 01:12:03,053 --> 01:12:06,254 as did the King and Queen of Nepal, 1281 01:12:06,256 --> 01:12:09,691 the Shah of Iran, 1282 01:12:09,693 --> 01:12:13,127 political leaders from Europe, Africa, and South America. 1283 01:12:13,129 --> 01:12:16,698 Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev threw a fit 1284 01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:20,001 when the U.S. State Department, citing security concerns, 1285 01:12:20,003 --> 01:12:22,837 quashed his planned visit to Disneyland. 1286 01:12:22,839 --> 01:12:26,140 These world leaders saw Disneyland 1287 01:12:26,142 --> 01:12:29,877 as a quick and easy window into the U.S. psyche-- 1288 01:12:29,879 --> 01:12:34,015 the Cliff Notes version of American history and culture. 1289 01:12:34,017 --> 01:12:37,785 Walt's countrymen, meanwhile, 1290 01:12:37,787 --> 01:12:41,022 were enticed to this new vacation destination 1291 01:12:41,024 --> 01:12:42,857 by a simple promise: 1292 01:12:42,859 --> 01:12:48,363 a day's escape from the cares and concerns of everyday life. 1293 01:12:48,365 --> 01:12:50,331 WATTS: What introduces all of it, 1294 01:12:50,333 --> 01:12:52,934 that you have to go through when you come into the park, 1295 01:12:52,936 --> 01:12:58,106 is this idealized rendering of small-town America-- 1296 01:12:58,108 --> 01:13:00,942 the values, the feel, the ethics, all of that. 1297 01:13:00,944 --> 01:13:05,713 What Disney's trying to do at some level of awareness 1298 01:13:05,715 --> 01:13:08,883 is to create an image of America 1299 01:13:08,885 --> 01:13:13,554 that people would like to think exists. 1300 01:13:13,556 --> 01:13:16,557 (riverboat horn blowing) 1301 01:13:16,559 --> 01:13:21,662 RIVERBOAT ANNOUNCER: On Tom Sawyer's Island, you see Old Fort Wilderness, 1302 01:13:21,664 --> 01:13:26,100 shelter and protection for the hearty pioneers 1303 01:13:26,102 --> 01:13:29,570 pushing ahead into unsettled territory. 1304 01:13:29,572 --> 01:13:31,072 Off the port bow, 1305 01:13:31,074 --> 01:13:34,575 a friendly Indian village where members of many tribes gather 1306 01:13:34,577 --> 01:13:37,745 to perform ancient ceremonial dances. 1307 01:13:37,747 --> 01:13:39,981 (singing) 1308 01:13:42,519 --> 01:13:48,656 HIGGINBOTHAM: Disneyland is a space in which American ideals are celebrated. 1309 01:13:48,658 --> 01:13:50,691 So you have Frontierland, 1310 01:13:50,693 --> 01:13:52,860 and you have gestures to America's past, 1311 01:13:52,862 --> 01:13:56,431 and not the complicated moments, 1312 01:13:56,433 --> 01:14:00,134 not the moments that are about pain and suffering. 1313 01:14:00,136 --> 01:14:03,571 If there is a Native American presence at Frontierland, 1314 01:14:03,573 --> 01:14:05,373 it's not about contest. 1315 01:14:05,375 --> 01:14:07,708 It's about resolution. 1316 01:14:11,648 --> 01:14:15,183 NARRATOR: Frontierland and Adventureland pointed back, 1317 01:14:15,185 --> 01:14:17,285 Fantasyland inward. 1318 01:14:17,287 --> 01:14:20,721 Tomorrowland compassed advances in science and technology 1319 01:14:20,723 --> 01:14:23,858 that assured better days to come. 1320 01:14:23,860 --> 01:14:27,829 And all under the guidance of corporate America. 1321 01:14:32,368 --> 01:14:35,570 DISNEYLAND ANNOUNCER: Welcome to Monsanto's Plastics Home of the Future. 1322 01:14:35,572 --> 01:14:38,272 As you entered this experimental model home, 1323 01:14:38,274 --> 01:14:40,541 perhaps you noticed that the house itself 1324 01:14:40,543 --> 01:14:42,743 is constructed entirely of plastics. 1325 01:14:42,745 --> 01:14:46,314 HIGGINBOTHAM: Disneyland is the idealization of the past 1326 01:14:46,316 --> 01:14:49,884 and the hopeful regard for the future. 1327 01:14:49,886 --> 01:14:51,452 It is not about now. 1328 01:14:51,454 --> 01:14:54,455 It is a complete release from all of those burdens. 1329 01:15:00,697 --> 01:15:02,363 GABLER: What people find there 1330 01:15:02,365 --> 01:15:06,868 is a perfection that you can't find in real life. 1331 01:15:09,172 --> 01:15:11,572 It's odd to say that something's better than real, 1332 01:15:11,574 --> 01:15:14,742 because after all, what's better than real? 1333 01:15:14,744 --> 01:15:16,577 But Walt Disney was the man 1334 01:15:16,579 --> 01:15:19,347 who helped discover things that are better than real. 1335 01:15:19,349 --> 01:15:24,952 NARRATOR: "Disneyland materializes bigger than life and twice as real," 1336 01:15:24,954 --> 01:15:27,154 one magazine writer gushed. 1337 01:15:27,156 --> 01:15:30,424 Another praised Disney for tending his creation 1338 01:15:30,426 --> 01:15:33,060 "with the sureness of a mature master 1339 01:15:33,062 --> 01:15:36,297 who can still retain the vision of a child." 1340 01:15:36,299 --> 01:15:40,134 There were a handful of early critics. 1341 01:15:40,136 --> 01:15:42,470 "The whole world, the universe, 1342 01:15:42,472 --> 01:15:44,372 "and all man's striving for dominion 1343 01:15:44,374 --> 01:15:47,108 over self and nature," wrote a journalist, 1344 01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:49,510 "have been reduced to a sickening blend 1345 01:15:49,512 --> 01:15:52,380 "of cheap formulas packaged to sell. 1346 01:15:52,382 --> 01:15:58,653 Life is bright colored, clean, safe, mediocre, inoffensive." 1347 01:15:58,655 --> 01:16:03,057 Walt Disney wanted bright and clean and safe. 1348 01:16:03,059 --> 01:16:06,627 He loved the place. 1349 01:16:09,465 --> 01:16:12,967 GURR: Walt treated that park as his personal toy. 1350 01:16:12,969 --> 01:16:15,803 Over the firehouse there next to the City Hall, 1351 01:16:15,805 --> 01:16:17,905 they had a little apartment. 1352 01:16:17,907 --> 01:16:21,409 He and Lilly would go down there on a Friday or Saturday night. 1353 01:16:21,411 --> 01:16:24,879 He'd get up early in the morning before anybody showed up, 1354 01:16:24,881 --> 01:16:27,081 and he'd go over to a little store 1355 01:16:27,083 --> 01:16:29,951 where they had orange juice being freshly squeezed, 1356 01:16:29,953 --> 01:16:32,019 and he'd go out there in his bathrobe and get it 1357 01:16:32,021 --> 01:16:33,988 and come back up to his little apartment. 1358 01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:37,892 RON MILLER: It was a good place for Walt to relax, 1359 01:16:37,894 --> 01:16:39,794 get away from the crowd. 1360 01:16:39,796 --> 01:16:43,564 But it was adjacent to the jungle ride. 1361 01:16:43,566 --> 01:16:49,003 All night long, you would hear, "Ha-ya-ya-ya, ha-ya ya-ya." 1362 01:16:49,005 --> 01:16:51,305 All night long. 1363 01:16:53,443 --> 01:16:55,042 CRUMP: If you saw him in person, 1364 01:16:55,044 --> 01:16:58,813 you'd never recognize him from the man that was on TV. 1365 01:16:58,815 --> 01:17:01,415 Walt was really quite bent over. 1366 01:17:01,417 --> 01:17:03,217 With his little sweater that he wore, 1367 01:17:03,219 --> 01:17:06,387 his little golf sweater, and he never combed his hair, 1368 01:17:06,389 --> 01:17:09,690 he'd wander around Disneyland and nobody knew who he was. 1369 01:17:09,692 --> 01:17:11,892 He used to get in line 1370 01:17:11,894 --> 01:17:15,463 and stand in line for as long as it took to see the attraction 1371 01:17:15,465 --> 01:17:18,132 and just listen to what people had to say 1372 01:17:18,134 --> 01:17:20,835 because there might be something that he would hear 1373 01:17:20,837 --> 01:17:22,770 that would spark him 1374 01:17:22,772 --> 01:17:25,473 into some of the attractions that he was doing. 1375 01:17:25,475 --> 01:17:29,276 NARRATOR: At a dinner party one evening, a friend suggested to Disney 1376 01:17:29,278 --> 01:17:32,913 that he was popular enough to be elected president. 1377 01:17:32,915 --> 01:17:35,950 Walt fixed him with an incredulous stare. 1378 01:17:35,952 --> 01:17:39,020 "Why would I want to be president of the United States? 1379 01:17:39,022 --> 01:17:41,589 I'm the king of Disneyland." 1380 01:17:51,934 --> 01:17:56,737 In July 1956, the summer after his theme park opened, 1381 01:17:56,739 --> 01:17:59,940 Walt Disney alighted in Marceline, Missouri, 1382 01:17:59,942 --> 01:18:03,878 the town where he had briefly lived a half-century earlier. 1383 01:18:10,486 --> 01:18:12,453 He had been asked back 1384 01:18:12,455 --> 01:18:14,555 to dedicate a park named in his honor 1385 01:18:14,557 --> 01:18:18,993 and surprised the town fathers by accepting the invitation. 1386 01:18:18,995 --> 01:18:25,666 (applause) 1387 01:18:25,668 --> 01:18:29,704 Marceline accorded Walt and his brother Roy a hero's welcome, 1388 01:18:29,706 --> 01:18:35,876 and Disney luxuriated in the glow of the town's adoration. 1389 01:18:35,878 --> 01:18:38,412 The reception seemed to confirm 1390 01:18:38,414 --> 01:18:41,282 Walt Disney's fondest idea of himself. 1391 01:18:41,284 --> 01:18:43,117 He was the exemplar 1392 01:18:43,119 --> 01:18:46,854 of the simple and steadfast virtues of middle America: 1393 01:18:46,856 --> 01:18:49,223 a small-town boy made good. 1394 01:18:59,836 --> 01:19:02,470 It didn't matter that Walt had spent 1395 01:19:02,472 --> 01:19:06,540 nearly his entire childhood in Kansas City and Chicago 1396 01:19:06,542 --> 01:19:10,377 and his entire adult life in Los Angeles. 1397 01:19:10,379 --> 01:19:13,614 He was reclaiming Marceline as home. 1398 01:19:15,752 --> 01:19:18,152 This was classic Disney: 1399 01:19:18,154 --> 01:19:21,722 an act of will and of imagination. 1400 01:19:21,724 --> 01:19:26,193 He was rewriting his own childhood with a happy ending. 1401 01:19:29,098 --> 01:19:31,532 HAHN: Mark Twain had his Hannibal, 1402 01:19:31,534 --> 01:19:35,002 Walt Disney was gonna have his Marceline. 1403 01:19:35,004 --> 01:19:41,842 He could go out and just play and sit in his wishing tree 1404 01:19:41,844 --> 01:19:44,011 and hear the trains go by at night time, 1405 01:19:44,013 --> 01:19:45,513 trains that could take him anywhere in the world. 1406 01:19:50,486 --> 01:19:53,554 NILSEN: For him, everything springs out of Marceline. 1407 01:19:53,556 --> 01:19:56,323 "This is the place you need to represent and signify 1408 01:19:56,325 --> 01:19:57,758 as the one where I came from." 1409 01:20:05,234 --> 01:20:08,035 HIGGINBOTHAM: It almost feels like it's locked in time. 1410 01:20:08,037 --> 01:20:09,537 It's frozen. 1411 01:20:09,539 --> 01:20:14,074 And he can relive it over and over and over again. 1412 01:20:14,076 --> 01:20:16,010 I think that is the appeal of it. 1413 01:20:16,012 --> 01:20:18,412 It's a romanticized period of his youth. 1414 01:20:18,414 --> 01:20:22,783 And he accesses it, he can go back to it, 1415 01:20:22,785 --> 01:20:25,619 use it as a touchstone for his understanding 1416 01:20:25,621 --> 01:20:27,955 of what an ideal childhood should be. 1417 01:20:38,701 --> 01:20:43,270 NARRATOR: By 1960, Walt Disney stood atop one of the world's 1418 01:20:43,272 --> 01:20:46,707 most profitable entertainment enterprises. 1419 01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:49,510 The steady stream of revenue from Disneyland 1420 01:20:49,512 --> 01:20:52,513 meant Walt was free from interference from his bankers 1421 01:20:52,515 --> 01:20:56,016 for the first time in his 40-year career. 1422 01:20:56,018 --> 01:20:59,453 But whether he was making improvements on his theme park 1423 01:20:59,455 --> 01:21:02,022 or overseeing his TV shows 1424 01:21:02,024 --> 01:21:05,926 and the half-dozen movies his studio was producing every year, 1425 01:21:05,928 --> 01:21:09,463 he was always thinking about protecting his legacy. 1426 01:21:09,465 --> 01:21:12,499 "Disney is something we've built up in the public 1427 01:21:12,501 --> 01:21:16,003 over the years," he explained to one young writer. 1428 01:21:16,005 --> 01:21:18,172 "Disney stands for something." 1429 01:21:18,174 --> 01:21:20,808 SUSKIND: "Brand" wasn't used back then, but you know, 1430 01:21:20,810 --> 01:21:23,477 "I now am a symbol," is what he's saying. 1431 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,313 And I think what he's trying to wrestle with is, 1432 01:21:26,315 --> 01:21:28,849 how does it feel to be a symbol? 1433 01:21:28,851 --> 01:21:31,418 How does it feel to be, essentially, 1434 01:21:31,420 --> 01:21:34,688 a one-word representation of a lot of stuff? 1435 01:21:37,293 --> 01:21:41,462 TV ANNOUNCER: Walt Disney and Mickey Mouse present The Mickey Mouse Club! 1436 01:21:41,464 --> 01:21:45,232 ¶ M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E ¶ 1437 01:21:45,234 --> 01:21:45,900 ¶ Mickey Mouse! ¶ 1438 01:21:45,902 --> 01:21:46,734 Donald Duck! 1439 01:21:46,736 --> 01:21:47,701 ¶ Mickey Mouse! ¶ 1440 01:21:47,703 --> 01:21:48,969 Donald Duck! 1441 01:21:48,971 --> 01:21:51,005 ¶ Forever let us hold our banner high ¶ 1442 01:21:51,007 --> 01:21:53,040 ¶ High, high, high! ¶ 1443 01:21:53,042 --> 01:21:54,875 HIGGINBOTHAM: He starts to internalize 1444 01:21:54,877 --> 01:21:57,978 that sense of he's standing for something more. 1445 01:21:57,980 --> 01:22:00,381 And it's not shareholders. 1446 01:22:00,383 --> 01:22:03,117 Those are not who he feels responsible to. 1447 01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:05,552 ALL: Yay, Mickey! 1448 01:22:05,554 --> 01:22:07,388 Yay, Mickey Mouse! 1449 01:22:07,390 --> 01:22:09,723 HIGGINBOTHAM: As he solidifies as a brand, 1450 01:22:09,725 --> 01:22:12,293 you don't have that risk-taking that you felt 1451 01:22:12,295 --> 01:22:14,962 in the early years of his career. 1452 01:22:14,964 --> 01:22:20,868 MILLER: He invited Diane and I over to watch a film. 1453 01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:23,003 The film was To Kill a Mockingbird. 1454 01:22:23,005 --> 01:22:26,640 He said, "Boy, that was a hell of a picture. 1455 01:22:26,642 --> 01:22:29,076 I wish I could make a picture like that." 1456 01:22:29,078 --> 01:22:34,481 And you could feel that he felt restricted 1457 01:22:34,483 --> 01:22:36,383 in how far he could go. 1458 01:22:36,385 --> 01:22:38,752 And one more thing we want you always to remember: 1459 01:22:38,754 --> 01:22:43,090 ¶ M-I-C... ¶ 1460 01:22:43,092 --> 01:22:44,925 See you real soon! 1461 01:22:44,927 --> 01:22:50,164 ¶ K-E-Y... ¶ 1462 01:22:50,166 --> 01:22:51,165 Why? 1463 01:22:51,167 --> 01:22:52,900 Because we like you! 1464 01:22:52,902 --> 01:22:58,539 HAHN: It is entertainment that is bounded by Walt's ethics 1465 01:22:58,541 --> 01:23:00,541 and his aesthetics and his perception 1466 01:23:00,543 --> 01:23:02,776 of what a family audience wanted and needed. 1467 01:23:02,778 --> 01:23:05,079 You're going to see the happy ending. 1468 01:23:05,081 --> 01:23:07,781 You're going to see a film or a theme park or a place to go 1469 01:23:07,783 --> 01:23:11,518 where it shows the hope of the human spirit 1470 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,454 excelling and winning at the end of the day, 1471 01:23:13,456 --> 01:23:14,922 because that's who he was. 1472 01:23:21,630 --> 01:23:24,631 NARRATOR: Disney made no apologies for his work, 1473 01:23:24,633 --> 01:23:26,867 whatever his private misgivings. 1474 01:23:26,869 --> 01:23:28,502 He would sometimes say, 1475 01:23:28,504 --> 01:23:30,771 with more than a little revisionist history, 1476 01:23:30,773 --> 01:23:33,774 that he had never thought of his movies as art, 1477 01:23:33,776 --> 01:23:35,642 but as show business, 1478 01:23:35,644 --> 01:23:38,012 and could point to his huge box-office take 1479 01:23:38,014 --> 01:23:41,515 as proof that he was serving an appreciative public. 1480 01:23:41,517 --> 01:23:43,417 DISNEY: Hello! 1481 01:23:44,754 --> 01:23:46,487 I'm sorry you got lost. 1482 01:23:46,489 --> 01:23:48,288 NARRATOR: When ABC expressed frustration 1483 01:23:48,290 --> 01:23:51,325 over the falling ratings of his television show, 1484 01:23:51,327 --> 01:23:54,561 Disney simply moved it to NBC's Sunday evening line-up 1485 01:23:54,563 --> 01:23:56,030 and stayed on as host. 1486 01:23:56,032 --> 01:23:58,899 In a few moments, we'll go over to stage two 1487 01:23:58,901 --> 01:24:03,037 for the filming of the final scene of Babes in Toyland. 1488 01:24:03,039 --> 01:24:07,307 SCHICKEL: He liked his fame. 1489 01:24:07,309 --> 01:24:09,643 He was comfortable with it. 1490 01:24:09,645 --> 01:24:11,745 He liked introducing the TV show. 1491 01:24:11,747 --> 01:24:14,815 He liked the character he created 1492 01:24:14,817 --> 01:24:16,817 of the avuncular Uncle Walt. 1493 01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:19,053 The motion picture set 1494 01:24:19,055 --> 01:24:21,688 is probably the most expendable part of filmmaking. 1495 01:24:21,690 --> 01:24:23,424 CRUMP: They would write scripts 1496 01:24:23,426 --> 01:24:26,093 and have a monitor for him to read 1497 01:24:26,095 --> 01:24:28,028 when he was on TV, 1498 01:24:28,030 --> 01:24:30,697 and then he'd just forget it, he just would wing it. 1499 01:24:30,699 --> 01:24:33,534 So he loved winging it on TV. 1500 01:24:33,536 --> 01:24:35,836 ¶ Time to shoot the final scene ¶ 1501 01:24:35,838 --> 01:24:37,905 ¶ All the cast and all the crew ¶ 1502 01:24:37,907 --> 01:24:40,908 ¶ Are on stage two. ¶ 1503 01:24:40,910 --> 01:24:45,145 HIGGINBOTHAM: There is something very affable about Walt Disney the host. 1504 01:24:45,147 --> 01:24:47,247 ¶ ¶ 1505 01:24:49,518 --> 01:24:51,018 HIGGINBOTHAM: He's there every week. 1506 01:24:51,020 --> 01:24:53,921 He's a regular part of your living room experience. 1507 01:24:53,923 --> 01:24:55,956 Well, this is how a busy movie set looks 1508 01:24:55,958 --> 01:24:58,425 to the man behind the man behind the camera. 1509 01:24:58,427 --> 01:25:02,429 HIGGINBOTHAM: He speaks to you as if you mattered to him. 1510 01:25:02,431 --> 01:25:06,433 It's actually a well-organized and efficient operation. 1511 01:25:12,575 --> 01:25:14,842 HIGGINBOTHAM: Is it really him? 1512 01:25:14,844 --> 01:25:16,410 I don't know. 1513 01:25:19,248 --> 01:25:21,181 I want to believe it's him. 1514 01:25:21,183 --> 01:25:23,050 I hope it's him. 1515 01:25:23,052 --> 01:25:25,486 And I think audiences hope it's him as well. 1516 01:25:29,692 --> 01:25:32,626 NARRATOR: Walt was aware of the gap between himself 1517 01:25:32,628 --> 01:25:36,196 and the persona he had created for public consumption. 1518 01:25:36,198 --> 01:25:39,299 "I'm not Walt Disney," he once told a friend. 1519 01:25:39,301 --> 01:25:42,436 "I do a lot of things Walt Disney wouldn't do. 1520 01:25:42,438 --> 01:25:44,104 "Walt Disney doesn't smoke. 1521 01:25:44,106 --> 01:25:45,339 "I smoke. 1522 01:25:45,341 --> 01:25:46,874 "Walt Disney doesn't drink. 1523 01:25:46,876 --> 01:25:48,342 I drink." 1524 01:25:48,344 --> 01:25:53,747 He told himself he was the same regular guy he had always been. 1525 01:25:53,749 --> 01:25:56,416 He got his haircuts at the company barbershop, 1526 01:25:56,418 --> 01:25:58,852 drove himself to the office every day, 1527 01:25:58,854 --> 01:26:02,222 and carried cans of his favorite chili and beans 1528 01:26:02,224 --> 01:26:05,325 on trips to London, or the French Riviera. 1529 01:26:05,327 --> 01:26:10,230 But he was not like everybody else, and he knew it. 1530 01:26:10,232 --> 01:26:12,900 FLOYD NORMAN: Every time Walt walked down a hallway, 1531 01:26:12,902 --> 01:26:15,402 he would give a loud cough. 1532 01:26:15,404 --> 01:26:17,304 Naturally, you'd think Walt's coughing 1533 01:26:17,306 --> 01:26:19,406 because he was a smoker. 1534 01:26:19,408 --> 01:26:21,708 But his cough was not necessarily due to smoking. 1535 01:26:21,710 --> 01:26:23,243 It was a warning sign 1536 01:26:23,245 --> 01:26:25,145 so we would know that the boss was in the area. 1537 01:26:25,147 --> 01:26:28,582 RICHARD SHERMAN: In Bambi, there's a line: 1538 01:26:28,584 --> 01:26:31,285 "When man is in the forest," you know, there was danger. 1539 01:26:31,287 --> 01:26:32,786 You have to be worried. 1540 01:26:32,788 --> 01:26:35,389 We'd hear Walt coughing, coming down the hall, 1541 01:26:35,391 --> 01:26:38,192 and one of the guys would say, "Man is in the forest," 1542 01:26:38,194 --> 01:26:41,061 and we'd all get ready for Walt. 1543 01:26:41,063 --> 01:26:44,131 He walked through the door and pins would drop. 1544 01:26:44,133 --> 01:26:46,400 You couldn't hear anything. 1545 01:26:46,402 --> 01:26:50,003 His personal power walked right with him. 1546 01:26:50,005 --> 01:26:52,873 You knew you were sitting with Walt Disney. 1547 01:26:52,875 --> 01:26:54,408 And there was no joking around. 1548 01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:55,943 He would sit down and say, "Okay, guys, what you got?" 1549 01:26:55,945 --> 01:26:59,112 NARRATOR: Disney's company was bigger than ever 1550 01:26:59,114 --> 01:27:02,649 in the early 1960s, with money to burn. 1551 01:27:02,651 --> 01:27:06,253 But Walt was as restless and driven as always, 1552 01:27:06,255 --> 01:27:09,823 and still difficult when things were going against him. 1553 01:27:09,825 --> 01:27:12,392 He quit speaking to his brother Roy for months 1554 01:27:12,394 --> 01:27:15,395 during a contentious contract negotiation. 1555 01:27:15,397 --> 01:27:18,098 He still chain-smoked through every story meeting, 1556 01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:21,134 always aware that the clock was running. 1557 01:27:21,136 --> 01:27:24,071 MILLER: For the most part, he was patient, 1558 01:27:24,073 --> 01:27:26,073 but when somebody was really off-base, 1559 01:27:26,075 --> 01:27:28,075 his eyebrow would go up 1560 01:27:28,077 --> 01:27:31,945 and his fingers would start tapping. 1561 01:27:31,947 --> 01:27:33,447 That was a sign. 1562 01:27:33,449 --> 01:27:36,583 NORMAN: Walt was not generous with praise. 1563 01:27:36,585 --> 01:27:38,452 If he was pleased with something, 1564 01:27:38,454 --> 01:27:42,289 he would simply say, "That'll work." 1565 01:27:42,291 --> 01:27:45,092 If you could get "That'll work" from Walt Disney, 1566 01:27:45,094 --> 01:27:47,294 you knew you had done your job. 1567 01:27:47,296 --> 01:27:49,029 That was a good day, that was a good meeting. 1568 01:27:49,031 --> 01:27:52,466 SHERMAN: Walt Disney could be very hard on someone 1569 01:27:52,468 --> 01:27:56,069 if they weren't cooperating in his way. 1570 01:27:56,071 --> 01:27:58,071 He'd jump on them really very badly 1571 01:27:58,073 --> 01:27:59,573 because if somebody's, 1572 01:27:59,575 --> 01:28:01,541 "Nah, just doesn't hit me, I just don't like it," 1573 01:28:01,543 --> 01:28:04,177 he'd say, "If you can't think of a way to improve it 1574 01:28:04,179 --> 01:28:06,313 or try to, then keep your mouth shut." 1575 01:28:06,315 --> 01:28:07,848 Oh, he got very upset with them. 1576 01:28:07,850 --> 01:28:09,750 I only saw him... 1577 01:28:09,752 --> 01:28:11,485 In the seven years that I knew him, 1578 01:28:11,487 --> 01:28:13,654 I only saw him unload twice. 1579 01:28:13,656 --> 01:28:16,456 And I thought, "God, I'll never reach that point 1580 01:28:16,458 --> 01:28:18,158 to where he unloads on me." 1581 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,495 But the people that he unloaded on deserved it. 1582 01:28:21,497 --> 01:28:22,929 I was there. 1583 01:28:22,931 --> 01:28:25,832 Once he's made a decision, you abide by it, you know? 1584 01:28:25,834 --> 01:28:27,401 Whether you agree with it or not, 1585 01:28:27,403 --> 01:28:29,903 he's the boss, for God's sake. 1586 01:28:29,905 --> 01:28:32,005 SCHICKEL: I don't think he was totally grounded. 1587 01:28:32,007 --> 01:28:34,074 I think he wanted to be what his image was. 1588 01:28:34,076 --> 01:28:36,209 I think he wanted to be thought of 1589 01:28:36,211 --> 01:28:41,281 as "hail fellow well met," good-natured, but he wasn't. 1590 01:28:41,283 --> 01:28:44,117 Nobody does stuff on the scale that he did 1591 01:28:44,119 --> 01:28:47,154 as a good-natured sweetheart of a guy. 1592 01:28:47,156 --> 01:28:50,757 He was a hard-driving guy, 1593 01:28:50,759 --> 01:28:54,194 and I don't think he ever resolved those conflicts. 1594 01:29:00,869 --> 01:29:02,769 (honking) 1595 01:29:08,577 --> 01:29:11,445 NARRATOR: Walt Disney had no real intimates 1596 01:29:11,447 --> 01:29:13,580 outside his own family, 1597 01:29:13,582 --> 01:29:15,582 and made little room in his life for friends. 1598 01:29:15,584 --> 01:29:19,419 But he wanted acceptance and love and acclaim 1599 01:29:19,421 --> 01:29:21,655 with a greediness that would have looked pathetic 1600 01:29:21,657 --> 01:29:24,291 in a less successful man. 1601 01:29:29,465 --> 01:29:32,299 At age 61, he had won more Academy Awards 1602 01:29:32,301 --> 01:29:34,668 than any other film producer in history, 1603 01:29:34,670 --> 01:29:38,305 but it irked him that he had never even won a nomination 1604 01:29:38,307 --> 01:29:43,009 for the most coveted prize: the Oscar for best picture. 1605 01:29:43,011 --> 01:29:46,713 The boss's increasing engagement 1606 01:29:46,715 --> 01:29:49,983 in one particular film in the Disney pipeline 1607 01:29:49,985 --> 01:29:54,287 started to create buzz around Burbank in 1963. 1608 01:29:54,289 --> 01:29:58,358 Mary Poppins was based on a favorite children's novel 1609 01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:59,960 of Disney's daughters, 1610 01:29:59,962 --> 01:30:03,930 and a project Walt had started thinking about 20 years earlier, 1611 01:30:03,932 --> 01:30:08,068 back in that long-vanished era of limitless possibility 1612 01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:11,338 after the worldwide success of Snow White. 1613 01:30:11,340 --> 01:30:14,508 And memories of that formative era 1614 01:30:14,510 --> 01:30:17,444 seemed to be tugging at Walt. 1615 01:30:17,446 --> 01:30:20,213 MILLER: There was no animation in Mary Poppins. 1616 01:30:20,215 --> 01:30:22,983 I'll never forget, one time we were going over a scene 1617 01:30:22,985 --> 01:30:25,652 and Walt said, "By the way, Ron, 1618 01:30:25,654 --> 01:30:27,854 "would you look up Song of the South, 1619 01:30:27,856 --> 01:30:31,091 "reel two, 100 feet into it? 1620 01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:33,460 "Put it in a projection room. 1621 01:30:33,462 --> 01:30:35,495 I would like to run it for the guys." 1622 01:30:35,497 --> 01:30:38,932 We looked at each other, "What the hell is this all about?" 1623 01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:40,667 And we went into the room, 1624 01:30:40,669 --> 01:30:43,437 and it was live action and animation. 1625 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,439 And he got up and left. 1626 01:30:45,441 --> 01:30:47,441 Didn't say a word. 1627 01:30:47,443 --> 01:30:51,077 And about three weeks later, the same thing happened. 1628 01:30:51,079 --> 01:30:53,380 "Ron, will you put that reel up again?" 1629 01:30:53,382 --> 01:30:54,915 And the lights came on, 1630 01:30:54,917 --> 01:30:57,884 and that's when he told the boys, 1631 01:30:57,886 --> 01:31:00,821 "I have an idea for animation in this." 1632 01:31:00,823 --> 01:31:02,722 ¶ ¶ 1633 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,453 SHERMAN: He's basically a story man. 1634 01:31:33,455 --> 01:31:37,591 He wanted the song moving story, developing story, pushing story. 1635 01:31:37,593 --> 01:31:39,426 And that was very, very important to him. 1636 01:31:39,428 --> 01:31:43,563 ¶ The children must be molded, shaped and taught ¶ 1637 01:31:43,565 --> 01:31:46,967 ¶ That life's a looming battle to be faced and fought... ¶ 1638 01:31:46,969 --> 01:31:49,369 SHERMAN: Mary Poppins is not a children's story. 1639 01:31:49,371 --> 01:31:51,938 It's a story about a dysfunctional family 1640 01:31:51,940 --> 01:31:53,607 that was not paying attention 1641 01:31:53,609 --> 01:31:55,375 to the most important thing they had, 1642 01:31:55,377 --> 01:31:57,310 and that was their children. 1643 01:31:57,312 --> 01:32:00,514 And Walt knew that, and that's what the story was. 1644 01:32:00,516 --> 01:32:04,184 ¶ It's time they learned to walk in your footsteps... ¶ 1645 01:32:04,186 --> 01:32:05,619 My footsteps. 1646 01:32:05,621 --> 01:32:08,121 ¶ To tread your straight and narrow path with pride... ¶ 1647 01:32:08,123 --> 01:32:09,289 With pride. 1648 01:32:09,291 --> 01:32:10,991 ¶ Tomorrow, just as you suggest ¶ 1649 01:32:10,993 --> 01:32:12,959 ¶ Pressed and dressed ¶ 1650 01:32:12,961 --> 01:32:16,530 ¶ Jane and Michael will be at your side. ¶ 1651 01:32:16,532 --> 01:32:17,664 Splendid! 1652 01:32:17,666 --> 01:32:19,032 You've hit the nail right on the... 1653 01:32:19,034 --> 01:32:20,367 At my side? 1654 01:32:20,369 --> 01:32:21,868 Where are we going? 1655 01:32:21,870 --> 01:32:23,970 To the bank, of course, exactly as you proposed. 1656 01:32:23,972 --> 01:32:25,205 I proposed? 1657 01:32:25,207 --> 01:32:26,406 Of course. 1658 01:32:26,408 --> 01:32:27,707 Now, if you'll excuse me. 1659 01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:29,042 Tomorrow's an important day for the children. 1660 01:32:29,044 --> 01:32:30,911 I shall see they have a proper night's sleep. 1661 01:32:32,514 --> 01:32:36,550 NARRATOR: Mary Poppins debuted in the summer of 1964 1662 01:32:36,552 --> 01:32:39,252 and became a box-office smash. 1663 01:32:39,254 --> 01:32:42,522 It was also Walt Disney's most deliberate refashioning 1664 01:32:42,524 --> 01:32:44,925 of the hard-hearted father story-- 1665 01:32:44,927 --> 01:32:48,395 a miraculous parental transformation. 1666 01:32:48,397 --> 01:32:51,164 ¶ With tuppence for paper and strings ¶ 1667 01:32:51,166 --> 01:32:54,935 ¶ You can have your own set of wings ¶ 1668 01:32:54,937 --> 01:33:00,407 ¶ With your feet on the ground, you're a bird in flight ¶ 1669 01:33:00,409 --> 01:33:06,046 ¶ With your fist holding tight to the string of your kite ¶ 1670 01:33:06,048 --> 01:33:09,082 ¶ Oh... ¶ 1671 01:33:09,084 --> 01:33:12,953 ¶ Let's go fly a kite ¶ 1672 01:33:12,955 --> 01:33:15,188 ¶ Up to the highest height... ¶ 1673 01:33:15,190 --> 01:33:17,023 NARRATOR: "You have made a great many pictures 1674 01:33:17,025 --> 01:33:19,659 that have touched the hearts of the world," 1675 01:33:19,661 --> 01:33:23,430 wrote legendary producer Samuel Goldwyn. 1676 01:33:23,432 --> 01:33:26,099 "But you have never made one so completely the fulfillment 1677 01:33:26,101 --> 01:33:30,170 of everything a great motion picture should be." 1678 01:33:30,172 --> 01:33:31,871 ¶ Oh, let's go... ¶ 1679 01:33:31,873 --> 01:33:34,541 HIGGINBOTHAM: He is able to produce a film on his terms 1680 01:33:34,543 --> 01:33:38,111 that has a narrative that is very much about family. 1681 01:33:38,113 --> 01:33:39,946 ¶ Let's go fly a kite... ¶ 1682 01:33:39,948 --> 01:33:41,681 HIGGINBOTHAM: About the healing of the family. 1683 01:33:41,683 --> 01:33:44,985 ¶ Up to the highest height, let's go... ¶ 1684 01:33:44,987 --> 01:33:48,455 HIGGINBOTHAM: So he's staying true to what he believes personally 1685 01:33:48,457 --> 01:33:52,959 that has woven itself into all of his films. 1686 01:33:52,961 --> 01:33:57,163 NARRATOR: Mary Poppins was nominated for 13 Oscars, 1687 01:33:57,165 --> 01:34:01,167 including Walt Disney's first and only nomination 1688 01:34:01,169 --> 01:34:04,137 for Best Picture. 1689 01:34:04,139 --> 01:34:06,406 Mary Poppins is validation for Walt Disney. 1690 01:34:08,977 --> 01:34:10,343 He's finally being embraced 1691 01:34:10,345 --> 01:34:12,646 by those whose validation he has always sought. 1692 01:34:12,648 --> 01:34:18,518 ¶ Oh, let's go fly a kite! ¶ 1693 01:34:20,856 --> 01:34:22,889 (cheering) 1694 01:34:22,891 --> 01:34:27,661 NARRATOR: Mary Poppins premiered into a different America 1695 01:34:27,663 --> 01:34:30,163 than had Mickey Mouse, Snow White and Pinocchio. 1696 01:34:32,668 --> 01:34:35,902 American teenagers were discovering the Beatles 1697 01:34:35,904 --> 01:34:39,339 and Bob Dylan and James Brown, 1698 01:34:39,341 --> 01:34:42,142 and beginning to worry about a growing war 1699 01:34:42,144 --> 01:34:45,278 in a place called Vietnam. 1700 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,514 (siren wailing) 1701 01:34:47,516 --> 01:34:49,482 The entire country, meanwhile, 1702 01:34:49,484 --> 01:34:53,420 was convulsed by momentous new civil rights laws. 1703 01:34:53,422 --> 01:34:56,489 Riots in New York and Los Angeles 1704 01:34:56,491 --> 01:34:59,759 and segregationist intimidation in the Deep South 1705 01:34:59,761 --> 01:35:02,729 were beamed into television sets in living rooms 1706 01:35:02,731 --> 01:35:04,998 across the country. 1707 01:35:07,502 --> 01:35:10,136 DOUGLAS: The gap is growing wider and wider 1708 01:35:10,138 --> 01:35:12,572 between Disney's version of America 1709 01:35:12,574 --> 01:35:15,709 and what's really going on in the country, 1710 01:35:15,711 --> 01:35:18,845 which is all of these fissures being exposed. 1711 01:35:21,983 --> 01:35:25,418 ¶ O beautiful, for spacious skies... ¶ 1712 01:35:25,420 --> 01:35:28,188 NARRATOR: Walt's defenders pointed to his movies 1713 01:35:28,190 --> 01:35:30,590 as "sanctuaries of decency and health 1714 01:35:30,592 --> 01:35:35,128 in the jungle of sex and sadism created by Hollywood producers." 1715 01:35:35,130 --> 01:35:36,763 How lovely it is! 1716 01:35:36,765 --> 01:35:39,199 Makes you feel proud, doesn't it? 1717 01:35:39,201 --> 01:35:42,235 Hi, down there! 1718 01:35:42,237 --> 01:35:43,803 Oh Ned, look out! 1719 01:35:46,208 --> 01:35:48,508 NARRATOR: Critics slammed him. 1720 01:35:48,510 --> 01:35:51,044 "Genuine feeling is ignored," said one, 1721 01:35:51,046 --> 01:35:54,614 "the imagination of children bludgeoned with mediocrity." 1722 01:35:54,616 --> 01:35:57,484 ¶ Let's get together, yeah, yeah, yeah ¶ 1723 01:35:57,486 --> 01:36:00,386 ¶ Think of all that we could share... ¶ 1724 01:36:00,388 --> 01:36:02,956 NILSEN: Watered down, no edge, 1725 01:36:02,958 --> 01:36:06,126 devoid of any kind of distinctive ethnicity, 1726 01:36:06,128 --> 01:36:07,627 any kind of diversity, 1727 01:36:07,629 --> 01:36:10,864 this white, middle class, Protestant value system 1728 01:36:10,866 --> 01:36:13,166 is what he really gets identified with. 1729 01:36:13,168 --> 01:36:15,802 Many of those people that celebrated the '30s Disney 1730 01:36:15,804 --> 01:36:19,706 as this visionary are now saying, 1731 01:36:19,708 --> 01:36:20,974 "You're conservative. 1732 01:36:20,976 --> 01:36:22,442 "The values you're selling are conservative. 1733 01:36:22,444 --> 01:36:23,877 "We no longer agree with them. 1734 01:36:23,879 --> 01:36:25,311 Those are not our values." 1735 01:36:25,313 --> 01:36:28,181 The next number will be a ladies' tag dance. 1736 01:36:28,183 --> 01:36:32,352 NARRATOR: The truth was, Disney's commercial success 1737 01:36:32,354 --> 01:36:35,021 depended on a certain set of traditional values, 1738 01:36:35,023 --> 01:36:37,991 which were sometimes racist and sexist. 1739 01:36:37,993 --> 01:36:40,059 DOUGLAS: There were a lot of ways 1740 01:36:40,061 --> 01:36:44,330 Disney ignored major differences in our society, 1741 01:36:44,332 --> 01:36:46,199 sought to erase them, 1742 01:36:46,201 --> 01:36:48,468 or sought to keep marginalized people in their place. 1743 01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:50,804 I didn't say I was going to take the position. 1744 01:36:50,806 --> 01:36:52,472 All I said was... 1745 01:36:52,474 --> 01:36:54,207 Betsy, no wife of mine is going to work. 1746 01:36:54,209 --> 01:36:56,509 Not as long as I have a spark of life left in my body. 1747 01:36:58,547 --> 01:37:00,513 NARRATOR: Disney was aware of the knocks against him, 1748 01:37:00,515 --> 01:37:03,516 but he wasn't going to let the critics change his work. 1749 01:37:03,518 --> 01:37:06,719 ¶ Bon Voyage, Bon Voyage ¶ 1750 01:37:06,721 --> 01:37:08,321 ¶ Have a gay holiday... ¶ 1751 01:37:08,323 --> 01:37:10,256 MILLER: There was a film critic for the New York Times, 1752 01:37:10,258 --> 01:37:13,626 Bosley Crowther, there was this film, 1753 01:37:13,628 --> 01:37:17,697 and Bosley was criticizing the film for corn. 1754 01:37:17,699 --> 01:37:19,866 "Too much corn. 1755 01:37:19,868 --> 01:37:21,634 Just corny." 1756 01:37:21,636 --> 01:37:23,536 ¶ Kiss me on the Eiffel Tower... ¶ 1757 01:37:23,538 --> 01:37:25,705 Walt and I happened to have lunch that day, 1758 01:37:25,707 --> 01:37:27,774 and I said, "Did you happen to see the review?" 1759 01:37:27,776 --> 01:37:29,108 And he said, "Yeah." 1760 01:37:29,110 --> 01:37:31,010 He said, "He's got to realize, I like corn. 1761 01:37:31,012 --> 01:37:33,446 I love corn, that's what I'm all about." 1762 01:37:33,448 --> 01:37:37,016 ¶ Bon Voyage, Bon Voyage ¶ 1763 01:37:37,018 --> 01:37:40,420 ¶ Have a gay holiday, and don't forget to write ¶ 1764 01:37:40,422 --> 01:37:42,422 ¶ Bon Voyage... ¶ 1765 01:37:47,062 --> 01:37:51,164 NARRATOR: Word started to get around in 1965 1766 01:37:51,166 --> 01:37:53,266 that Walt Disney was buying up 1767 01:37:53,268 --> 01:37:56,903 enormous tracts of land in central Florida. 1768 01:37:56,905 --> 01:37:59,739 By the time Disney was ready to go public, 1769 01:37:59,741 --> 01:38:02,742 the company already owned 27,000 acres, 1770 01:38:02,744 --> 01:38:04,577 giving him a building lot 1771 01:38:04,579 --> 01:38:07,213 bigger than the island of Manhattan. 1772 01:38:07,215 --> 01:38:12,185 HAYDON BURNS: Walt Disney, who will bring a new world of entertainment, 1773 01:38:12,187 --> 01:38:14,520 pleasure, and economic development 1774 01:38:14,522 --> 01:38:15,822 to the state of Florida. 1775 01:38:15,824 --> 01:38:17,090 Walt Disney. 1776 01:38:17,092 --> 01:38:18,424 Thank you, Governor. 1777 01:38:18,426 --> 01:38:21,394 (applause) 1778 01:38:21,396 --> 01:38:24,631 What type of attraction and what type of usage 1779 01:38:24,633 --> 01:38:27,634 will be made of this great location? 1780 01:38:27,636 --> 01:38:29,135 We have many things in mind 1781 01:38:29,137 --> 01:38:32,305 that could make this unique and different than Disneyland. 1782 01:38:32,307 --> 01:38:34,107 Will it be a Disneyland? 1783 01:38:34,109 --> 01:38:37,076 Well, I've always said 1784 01:38:37,078 --> 01:38:40,179 there will never be another Disneyland, Governor. 1785 01:38:40,181 --> 01:38:43,416 NARRATOR: Walt remained cagey about the scope and outlines 1786 01:38:43,418 --> 01:38:45,852 of what he called Project Future. 1787 01:38:45,854 --> 01:38:48,254 We know the basic things 1788 01:38:48,256 --> 01:38:51,190 that have this what I call "family appeal." 1789 01:38:51,192 --> 01:38:53,559 NARRATOR: Only a handful of company insiders 1790 01:38:53,561 --> 01:38:55,228 knew what he was planning: 1791 01:38:55,230 --> 01:38:58,731 the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, 1792 01:38:58,733 --> 01:39:00,733 or EPCOT. 1793 01:39:00,735 --> 01:39:02,735 HAHN: It's like, "I did the mouse, that was great. 1794 01:39:02,737 --> 01:39:04,671 "Yeah, I affected popular culture. 1795 01:39:04,673 --> 01:39:06,105 "I made movies and things. 1796 01:39:06,107 --> 01:39:07,607 "But is that a real contribution, 1797 01:39:07,609 --> 01:39:09,309 "or is that just popcorn? 1798 01:39:09,311 --> 01:39:11,110 "Am I just this fugitive guy 1799 01:39:11,112 --> 01:39:14,380 "that is doling out popular culture for people to consume 1800 01:39:14,382 --> 01:39:16,382 "and it's here today and gone tomorrow? 1801 01:39:16,384 --> 01:39:18,217 Is it fast food?" 1802 01:39:18,219 --> 01:39:20,286 And I think that turns to thoughts of, 1803 01:39:20,288 --> 01:39:22,155 "Well, if it is, then what is my legacy?" 1804 01:39:25,060 --> 01:39:26,893 KOEHN: What can you leave the world? 1805 01:39:26,895 --> 01:39:30,229 What can you create for the world that will outlast you? 1806 01:39:30,231 --> 01:39:35,635 Well, the city of the future, a city where there is prosperity 1807 01:39:35,637 --> 01:39:39,072 and possibility and hope. 1808 01:39:39,074 --> 01:39:42,175 GURR: A lot of people had talked about it, 1809 01:39:42,177 --> 01:39:44,811 nobody'd really done anything about it, 1810 01:39:44,813 --> 01:39:48,214 and I got the impression Walt felt that, 1811 01:39:48,216 --> 01:39:50,550 well, by golly, he could do this. 1812 01:39:50,552 --> 01:39:54,854 NORMAN: He was now being a futurist, a visionary, 1813 01:39:54,856 --> 01:39:59,192 and building a functioning, working city of tomorrow, 1814 01:39:59,194 --> 01:40:02,161 a city that would be a model for the United States 1815 01:40:02,163 --> 01:40:04,530 and perhaps even for the rest of the world. 1816 01:40:04,532 --> 01:40:08,835 CRUMP: He used to get so goddamn excited about EPCOT. 1817 01:40:08,837 --> 01:40:10,503 When he'd talk about it, 1818 01:40:10,505 --> 01:40:13,139 it was like he'd just come back from the moon yesterday. 1819 01:40:13,141 --> 01:40:15,008 He was just so thrilled. 1820 01:40:15,010 --> 01:40:16,843 ANNOUNCER: No city of today 1821 01:40:16,845 --> 01:40:19,946 will serve as the guide for the city of tomorrow. 1822 01:40:19,948 --> 01:40:23,082 EPCOT will be a planned environment, 1823 01:40:23,084 --> 01:40:25,351 demonstrating to the world 1824 01:40:25,353 --> 01:40:27,720 what American communities can accomplish 1825 01:40:27,722 --> 01:40:30,556 through proper control of planning and design. 1826 01:40:30,558 --> 01:40:35,528 NARRATOR: Disney's design called for a high-density town center 1827 01:40:35,530 --> 01:40:38,097 with hotels and corporate offices, 1828 01:40:38,099 --> 01:40:40,867 a greenbelt for recreation and entertainment, 1829 01:40:40,869 --> 01:40:43,036 and a low-density residential area 1830 01:40:43,038 --> 01:40:45,972 with schools and parks and playgrounds. 1831 01:40:45,974 --> 01:40:49,075 It would all be knit together by the most efficient 1832 01:40:49,077 --> 01:40:51,411 and convenient public transportation, 1833 01:40:51,413 --> 01:40:56,182 and by a common purpose: progress, Disney-style. 1834 01:40:56,184 --> 01:41:00,653 CRUMP: He wanted all the major companies in the United States 1835 01:41:00,655 --> 01:41:04,290 to have research and development organizations 1836 01:41:04,292 --> 01:41:07,994 as part of EPCOT right next door to each other. 1837 01:41:07,996 --> 01:41:11,197 So GE would be right next door to Ford. 1838 01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:14,233 Ford would be right next door to General Motors. 1839 01:41:14,235 --> 01:41:16,502 All these research divisions 1840 01:41:16,504 --> 01:41:19,272 for all these big companies would become close. 1841 01:41:19,274 --> 01:41:21,074 ANNOUNCER: But most important, 1842 01:41:21,076 --> 01:41:24,043 this entire 50 acres of city streets and buildings 1843 01:41:24,045 --> 01:41:27,246 will be completely enclosed. 1844 01:41:27,248 --> 01:41:30,116 In this climate-controlled environment, 1845 01:41:30,118 --> 01:41:34,387 shoppers and theater-goers and people just out for a stroll 1846 01:41:34,389 --> 01:41:37,190 will enjoy ideal weather conditions. 1847 01:41:37,192 --> 01:41:39,225 GURR: Walt's got these drawings of EPCOT 1848 01:41:39,227 --> 01:41:40,560 laid out on the table, 1849 01:41:40,562 --> 01:41:42,261 and we're all talking about everything, 1850 01:41:42,263 --> 01:41:44,330 and he was pointing out what's going to go here 1851 01:41:44,332 --> 01:41:45,798 and what's going to go there. 1852 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,168 And he kind of tapped the drawing kind of funny 1853 01:41:49,170 --> 01:41:51,370 and he said, "Well, I'm going to put 1854 01:41:51,372 --> 01:41:53,573 "this little park bench right here, 1855 01:41:53,575 --> 01:41:55,675 "and Lilly and I are going to sit here 1856 01:41:55,677 --> 01:41:58,311 and we're going to watch people." 1857 01:41:58,313 --> 01:42:00,613 He's seeing it as a giant project, 1858 01:42:00,615 --> 01:42:03,015 but he's seeing it as a place 1859 01:42:03,017 --> 01:42:05,218 where he knows he's going to put his own park bench. 1860 01:42:12,527 --> 01:42:17,864 NARRATOR: Disney allowed himself a rare treat in the summer of 1966: 1861 01:42:17,866 --> 01:42:20,900 he left his studio for a two-week vacation 1862 01:42:20,902 --> 01:42:24,070 with his wife, daughters Diane and Sharon, 1863 01:42:24,072 --> 01:42:26,038 and their growing families. 1864 01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:30,276 MILLER: This gentleman offered Walt his yacht 1865 01:42:30,278 --> 01:42:34,714 to tour the coastline of Canada and up into Alaska. 1866 01:42:34,716 --> 01:42:40,119 We had Sharon and Bob and her child, 1867 01:42:40,121 --> 01:42:45,324 and then we had all our kids. 1868 01:42:45,326 --> 01:42:49,395 His room was right next to our room, 1869 01:42:49,397 --> 01:42:53,766 and he was coughing an awful lot, all night long. 1870 01:42:56,004 --> 01:42:59,305 Diane was very concerned. 1871 01:42:59,307 --> 01:43:00,840 But he had fun. 1872 01:43:00,842 --> 01:43:04,443 He said, "We're going to have to do this more often." 1873 01:43:16,991 --> 01:43:20,126 Welcome to a little bit of Florida here in California. 1874 01:43:20,128 --> 01:43:23,229 This is where the early planning is taking place 1875 01:43:23,231 --> 01:43:26,566 for our so-called Disney World Project. 1876 01:43:26,568 --> 01:43:30,503 NARRATOR: On October 27, 1966, 1877 01:43:30,505 --> 01:43:33,806 Walt Disney spent the day on the studio soundstage 1878 01:43:33,808 --> 01:43:36,209 shooting his part in a promotional film 1879 01:43:36,211 --> 01:43:38,778 about his new pet project. 1880 01:43:38,780 --> 01:43:41,047 The most exciting, 1881 01:43:41,049 --> 01:43:45,484 by far the most important part of our Florida project, 1882 01:43:45,486 --> 01:43:49,322 in fact the heart of everything we'll be doing in Disney World, 1883 01:43:49,324 --> 01:43:55,194 will be our Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow. 1884 01:43:55,196 --> 01:43:57,697 We call it EPCOT. 1885 01:43:57,699 --> 01:44:01,133 NARRATOR: The effort winded the 64-year-old so badly 1886 01:44:01,135 --> 01:44:03,703 he needed oxygen between takes. 1887 01:44:03,705 --> 01:44:05,871 DISNEY: ...Community of Tomorrow. 1888 01:44:10,745 --> 01:44:13,346 GURR: He didn't look good. 1889 01:44:13,348 --> 01:44:16,015 He didn't feel good. 1890 01:44:16,017 --> 01:44:21,020 He just seemed to be almost permanently grumpy. 1891 01:44:21,022 --> 01:44:23,756 The word around the lot was, 1892 01:44:23,758 --> 01:44:26,325 "Well, he's not feeling too well." 1893 01:44:28,529 --> 01:44:31,564 NARRATOR: Disney's old polo injury was giving him trouble. 1894 01:44:31,566 --> 01:44:34,400 His neck hurt, his shoulder hurt, 1895 01:44:34,402 --> 01:44:36,502 he was having trouble with his hip 1896 01:44:36,504 --> 01:44:39,605 and sometimes dragged his leg when he walked. 1897 01:44:39,607 --> 01:44:43,542 "My nerves are shot to hell," he admitted to Hazel George. 1898 01:44:43,544 --> 01:44:48,447 "And the pain is driving me nuts." 1899 01:44:48,449 --> 01:44:52,685 He finally gave in and scheduled spinal surgery, 1900 01:44:52,687 --> 01:44:55,154 but in the pre-operative exam 1901 01:44:55,156 --> 01:44:57,390 at a hospital across the street from the studio, 1902 01:44:57,392 --> 01:45:01,427 doctors discovered something else to be worried about: 1903 01:45:01,429 --> 01:45:03,396 a mass on one of his lungs. 1904 01:45:03,398 --> 01:45:06,565 The diagnosis was cancer. 1905 01:45:06,567 --> 01:45:09,101 The prognosis was bad. 1906 01:45:09,103 --> 01:45:14,840 Doctors told him he had two years at most. 1907 01:45:14,842 --> 01:45:19,545 MILLER: Walt, the optimist that he was, felt he was going to lick it. 1908 01:45:19,547 --> 01:45:21,881 He said, "You know, it's one of these things. 1909 01:45:21,883 --> 01:45:23,549 "I've smoked all my life 1910 01:45:23,551 --> 01:45:25,518 "and I've seen people who have smoked all their life 1911 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,253 "and they didn't have lung cancer. 1912 01:45:27,255 --> 01:45:29,755 I thought it would never happen to me." 1913 01:45:29,757 --> 01:45:31,657 And it happened. 1914 01:45:31,659 --> 01:45:33,659 Nobody let us in on it. 1915 01:45:33,661 --> 01:45:35,227 Maybe some of the inner circle 1916 01:45:35,229 --> 01:45:36,962 might have known it was more serious, 1917 01:45:36,964 --> 01:45:38,831 but I didn't. 1918 01:45:38,833 --> 01:45:43,202 And one day, we were looking at a rough cut of this film, 1919 01:45:43,204 --> 01:45:46,572 and Walt was there in the hall. 1920 01:45:46,574 --> 01:45:50,142 And as he passed us in the hall, we were standing there, 1921 01:45:50,144 --> 01:45:52,478 he looked at us and he said, 1922 01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:54,380 "Keep up the good work, fellas." 1923 01:45:54,382 --> 01:45:56,949 It's the first time and the only time 1924 01:45:56,951 --> 01:45:59,952 he ever complimented our work, 1925 01:45:59,954 --> 01:46:02,922 and he winked at us and walked down the hall. 1926 01:46:07,328 --> 01:46:11,330 NARRATOR: Walt did not return to the studio as usual the next day. 1927 01:46:11,332 --> 01:46:15,968 He checked himself back into the hospital instead. 1928 01:46:15,970 --> 01:46:18,170 Roy would get up very early in the morning 1929 01:46:18,172 --> 01:46:20,506 and go to see Walt. 1930 01:46:20,508 --> 01:46:25,144 And Walt always complained about his feet being cold, 1931 01:46:25,146 --> 01:46:28,447 so Roy would stand there and rub his feet 1932 01:46:28,449 --> 01:46:30,716 and get them warm. 1933 01:46:41,763 --> 01:46:45,398 NARRATOR: On the night of December 14, 1966, 1934 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,401 Walt sent Lillian home from his bedside 1935 01:46:48,403 --> 01:46:50,035 to get some rest. 1936 01:46:50,037 --> 01:46:53,639 He promised her he was feeling stronger. 1937 01:46:53,641 --> 01:46:58,577 Roy stayed behind and sat at the bedside 1938 01:46:58,579 --> 01:47:01,280 while his kid brother, flat on his back, 1939 01:47:01,282 --> 01:47:03,449 pointed up to the ceiling tiles, 1940 01:47:03,451 --> 01:47:06,986 trying to explain the vision of Disney World and EPCOT 1941 01:47:06,988 --> 01:47:09,321 that shimmered before him, 1942 01:47:09,323 --> 01:47:12,525 trying to make Roy see it as he did. 1943 01:47:12,527 --> 01:47:16,061 "Now there is where the highway will run," he explained. 1944 01:47:16,063 --> 01:47:20,099 "And there is the route for the monorail." 1945 01:47:31,379 --> 01:47:34,647 I went down to get my haircut, 1946 01:47:34,649 --> 01:47:37,917 and it was a gal in the barbershop, 1947 01:47:37,919 --> 01:47:40,719 and she was cutting my hair and she says, 1948 01:47:40,721 --> 01:47:42,455 "Too bad about Walt." 1949 01:47:42,457 --> 01:47:44,690 And I said, "Oh, he's going to be okay. 1950 01:47:44,692 --> 01:47:47,893 He'll be back next week." 1951 01:47:49,997 --> 01:47:53,299 "No, he died." 1952 01:47:53,301 --> 01:47:57,670 Well, I couldn't get out of that chair quicker to get home. 1953 01:47:57,672 --> 01:48:00,840 And my mother, my cousin are just like this. 1954 01:48:00,842 --> 01:48:03,976 They wouldn't even talk to me. 1955 01:48:03,978 --> 01:48:06,745 Well, that was a bad day. 1956 01:48:06,747 --> 01:48:09,949 I was next door at the studio. 1957 01:48:09,951 --> 01:48:15,921 And I rushed over, and he was gone. 1958 01:48:22,263 --> 01:48:25,130 SHERMAN: I heard somebody shrieking and running down the hall. 1959 01:48:25,132 --> 01:48:27,066 It was one of the secretaries. 1960 01:48:27,068 --> 01:48:29,635 And I opened the door, 1961 01:48:29,637 --> 01:48:31,637 and everybody was rushing into the hallway. 1962 01:48:31,639 --> 01:48:33,305 "Walt died." 1963 01:48:33,307 --> 01:48:34,940 Nobody could believe it. 1964 01:48:34,942 --> 01:48:37,443 And we all gathered in Bill Anderson's office, 1965 01:48:37,445 --> 01:48:40,145 a whole bunch of us, and they were crying. 1966 01:48:40,147 --> 01:48:42,548 Men were crying, I was crying. 1967 01:48:42,550 --> 01:48:45,417 It was terrible, it was horrible. 1968 01:48:45,419 --> 01:48:47,052 It was just horrible. 1969 01:48:51,893 --> 01:48:54,727 CRUMP: I was in my office in the model shop, 1970 01:48:54,729 --> 01:48:59,031 and John Hench came out and told me Walt passed. 1971 01:48:59,033 --> 01:49:02,001 And everybody was just, you know... 1972 01:49:02,003 --> 01:49:05,271 It was just like it'd taken the breath out of us. 1973 01:49:05,273 --> 01:49:08,140 It was like the end of the world. 1974 01:49:08,142 --> 01:49:09,542 Like the end of the world. 1975 01:49:15,116 --> 01:49:17,249 TV ANNOUNCERS: Walt Disney is dead tonight at the age of 65... 1976 01:49:17,251 --> 01:49:19,251 ...had undergone surgery last month 1977 01:49:19,253 --> 01:49:21,253 for removal of part of his left lung... 1978 01:49:21,255 --> 01:49:24,089 He won 29 Oscars, four Emmys, the Irving Thalberg Award... 1979 01:49:24,091 --> 01:49:25,791 Walt Disney, Hollywood's prince of fantasy. 1980 01:49:25,793 --> 01:49:30,462 NARRATOR: Walt Disney's death was front-page news the next day, 1981 01:49:30,464 --> 01:49:34,433 across the country and around the world. 1982 01:49:34,435 --> 01:49:37,603 TV ANNOUNCER: Of his success, Disney has said, "There's no magic formula. 1983 01:49:37,605 --> 01:49:41,340 "Children all over the world have one thing in common: 1984 01:49:41,342 --> 01:49:44,109 love of laughter." 1985 01:49:44,111 --> 01:49:46,412 NARRATOR: In the year after he died, 1986 01:49:46,414 --> 01:49:49,582 nearly seven million people visited Disneyland; 1987 01:49:49,584 --> 01:49:51,917 tens of millions around the world 1988 01:49:51,919 --> 01:49:54,019 listened to a Disney record 1989 01:49:54,021 --> 01:49:56,322 or bought Disney-licensed merchandise 1990 01:49:56,324 --> 01:49:59,458 or tuned into Walt's television show; 1991 01:49:59,460 --> 01:50:03,562 hundreds of millions saw one of Disney's movies. 1992 01:50:08,436 --> 01:50:14,840 HIGGINBOTHAM: That sense of happiness, that sense of American identity, 1993 01:50:14,842 --> 01:50:16,942 those are things that you want to achieve, 1994 01:50:16,944 --> 01:50:19,044 and Disney offers that to you. 1995 01:50:19,046 --> 01:50:22,514 GABLER: He's either the man who ruined American culture 1996 01:50:22,516 --> 01:50:26,518 and brought all of this fakeness into our lives, 1997 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,887 or he's the man who inspired us 1998 01:50:28,889 --> 01:50:33,892 and gave us hours and hours of entertainment. 1999 01:50:33,894 --> 01:50:37,963 HAHN: Walt Disney represented more than just a guy. 2000 01:50:37,965 --> 01:50:39,598 He was an ethos. 2001 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,101 He was a way of approaching life. 2002 01:50:42,103 --> 01:50:43,702 And whether you hated him or loved him, 2003 01:50:43,704 --> 01:50:45,738 there was no one that could argue with his effect 2004 01:50:45,740 --> 01:50:47,406 on 20th century culture. 2005 01:50:47,408 --> 01:50:49,074 I can move! 2006 01:50:51,379 --> 01:50:52,578 I can talk! 2007 01:50:52,580 --> 01:50:54,747 NILSEN: How do we deal with growing up? 2008 01:50:54,749 --> 01:50:55,648 I can walk! 2009 01:50:57,351 --> 01:50:58,984 Bambi! 2010 01:50:58,986 --> 01:51:02,087 NILSEN: What does it mean when we leave childhood behind? 2011 01:51:04,792 --> 01:51:06,825 How do we deal with death? 2012 01:51:06,827 --> 01:51:08,861 They're questions all humans deal with 2013 01:51:08,863 --> 01:51:11,430 no matter what period, no matter what culture. 2014 01:51:14,335 --> 01:51:19,772 SUSKIND: Disney goes back and taps old myths and old narrative arcs 2015 01:51:19,774 --> 01:51:23,375 that are deeply rooted in all of us. 2016 01:51:23,377 --> 01:51:26,478 What is the meaning of my life? 2017 01:51:26,480 --> 01:51:29,548 What is my journey really born of? 2018 01:51:29,550 --> 01:51:31,817 How can I discover who I am? 2019 01:51:44,665 --> 01:51:47,700 HIGGINBOTHAM: He affects all of us. 2020 01:51:47,702 --> 01:51:50,736 No one is untouched by Walt Disney. 2021 01:51:54,475 --> 01:51:57,876 GABLER: There aren't that many figures in American culture 2022 01:51:57,878 --> 01:52:00,212 who cover as many bases, 2023 01:52:00,214 --> 01:52:04,983 who do as many things as Walt Disney. 2024 01:52:10,658 --> 01:52:16,562 Disney was somebody who understood the American psyche. 2025 01:52:16,564 --> 01:52:20,299 He was also someone who anticipated the future 2026 01:52:20,301 --> 01:52:22,201 of the American psyche. 2027 01:52:25,639 --> 01:52:27,840 He understood a whole lot about us. 2028 01:52:43,758 --> 01:52:45,791 APPRAISER: Now, you told me there was an 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