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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:16,062 --> 00:01:17,717 A lot of people ask me... 2 00:01:22,096 --> 00:01:24,752 Why did you write the song "Stan?" 3 00:01:24,890 --> 00:01:28,200 Is "Stan" based on a real fan? 4 00:01:28,303 --> 00:01:31,669 Why do you share so much about yourself in your music? 5 00:01:31,752 --> 00:01:34,717 What the hell goes on in your brain? 6 00:01:34,855 --> 00:01:37,062 Are you happy? 7 00:01:37,165 --> 00:01:39,358 How's your daughter? 8 00:01:39,441 --> 00:01:41,579 Who is someone that helped you the same way 9 00:01:41,717 --> 00:01:43,062 that you helped me? 10 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,890 Do you feel like the impact you've had 11 00:01:46,027 --> 00:01:48,407 is what you hoped it would be? 12 00:01:48,510 --> 00:01:50,579 What's it like being famous? 13 00:01:50,717 --> 00:01:52,407 How much fan mail do you get? 14 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:56,372 How does it feel to be followed by so many people? 15 00:01:56,510 --> 00:01:58,234 Have you read my letter? 16 00:02:01,303 --> 00:02:04,476 Is everyone ready? 17 00:02:04,579 --> 00:02:07,220 All right, Marshall, take one. 18 00:02:07,303 --> 00:02:09,579 What's your first question? 19 00:03:14,545 --> 00:03:16,944 Hi, my name is chick a-chick a Slim... 20 00:03:17,027 --> 00:03:20,752 I wanted to say Zolt Shady. 21 00:03:20,855 --> 00:03:23,717 Hi, my name is chick a-chick a-chick a 22 00:03:23,821 --> 00:03:24,821 Zolt Shady. 23 00:03:24,924 --> 00:03:26,117 Hi, my name is Alex. 24 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,683 Hi, my name is Daniyela. 25 00:03:27,786 --> 00:03:29,200 Hi, my name is Giovanni. 26 00:03:29,338 --> 00:03:30,683 Hi, my name is Brooklyn. 27 00:03:30,786 --> 00:03:32,062 Hi, my name is James. 28 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,151 Hi, my name is Kyle. 29 00:03:33,234 --> 00:03:34,717 Hi. "My Name Is." 30 00:03:34,855 --> 00:03:36,200 Well, no, you... 31 00:03:36,338 --> 00:03:40,151 I'm s... I thought you mean it like the song. 32 00:03:40,234 --> 00:03:43,772 Hi, my name is Nikki. 33 00:03:43,855 --> 00:03:45,890 Let me just put my cape on. 34 00:03:48,614 --> 00:03:51,752 I don't even know what these look like on. 35 00:03:51,855 --> 00:03:55,545 Too much? 36 00:03:55,683 --> 00:03:58,234 It's called the Eminem. 37 00:03:58,372 --> 00:04:00,752 Um, it's based off... in his music video 38 00:04:00,855 --> 00:04:01,958 "Without Me." 39 00:04:02,096 --> 00:04:07,048 Um, although I did leave my plastic ass at home, 40 00:04:07,131 --> 00:04:09,924 but this is my costume. 41 00:04:10,027 --> 00:04:12,531 This is art. 42 00:04:12,614 --> 00:04:15,924 This is crazy. 43 00:04:16,027 --> 00:04:17,703 Early Eminem, Slim Shady. 44 00:04:17,786 --> 00:04:19,786 This is the type of mask that he always wore 45 00:04:19,924 --> 00:04:22,531 in every concert, early 2000s, 46 00:04:22,614 --> 00:04:23,786 everything like that. 47 00:04:23,924 --> 00:04:27,062 How and why does a white T-shirt become iconic? 48 00:04:27,165 --> 00:04:32,048 Because, uh, there's a Slim Shady in all of us. 49 00:04:32,131 --> 00:04:33,303 When he wears that shirt, 50 00:04:33,407 --> 00:04:35,013 and when I wear that shirt as well, 51 00:04:35,096 --> 00:04:37,358 it symbolizes unity. 52 00:04:37,441 --> 00:04:41,062 They, um, have an Eminem subreddit, r/eminem, 53 00:04:41,165 --> 00:04:42,752 and I enjoy being there. 54 00:04:42,855 --> 00:04:45,614 It's actually, uh, where I found my people. 55 00:04:45,752 --> 00:04:48,048 So I follow him on all social medias. 56 00:04:48,131 --> 00:04:50,358 Every social media that he has, that I have, 57 00:04:50,441 --> 00:04:51,579 I will follow him on. 58 00:04:51,683 --> 00:04:53,875 I, like, followed him every... 59 00:04:53,958 --> 00:04:55,220 not followed him everywhere, 'cause that 60 00:04:55,303 --> 00:04:56,958 sounds weird and creepy. 61 00:04:57,062 --> 00:04:59,234 You should see what my explore page 62 00:04:59,338 --> 00:05:00,510 on Instagram looks like. 63 00:05:00,614 --> 00:05:02,565 Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies, 64 00:05:02,648 --> 00:05:04,476 Eminem, Eminem, horror movies, 65 00:05:04,579 --> 00:05:06,476 Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles. 66 00:05:06,579 --> 00:05:08,165 Stuff like that. 67 00:05:08,269 --> 00:05:11,476 I wake up every morning, and it is a habit. 68 00:05:11,614 --> 00:05:13,165 It's a ritualistic routine. 69 00:05:13,269 --> 00:05:15,600 I think I do have an addiction to Eminem. 70 00:05:15,683 --> 00:05:17,510 Occasionally, like, I'll go into, like, 71 00:05:17,614 --> 00:05:20,648 a YouTube, like, rabbit hole where 72 00:05:20,752 --> 00:05:22,510 I'll, like, watch old performances 73 00:05:22,614 --> 00:05:23,910 or music videos or interviews. 74 00:05:23,993 --> 00:05:25,993 And, like, what people could say in interviews 75 00:05:26,096 --> 00:05:28,234 25 years ago versus what they could say now, like, 76 00:05:28,338 --> 00:05:29,890 half the shit he said was insane. 77 00:05:31,234 --> 00:05:32,545 All right, y'all. 78 00:05:32,648 --> 00:05:33,600 Back here live on the "Rap City" thing. 79 00:05:33,683 --> 00:05:34,683 I'm looking for my man. 80 00:05:34,786 --> 00:05:36,476 My man is not... 81 00:05:36,614 --> 00:05:37,821 Ow! 82 00:05:37,924 --> 00:05:39,600 Ow! 83 00:05:42,821 --> 00:05:44,476 Yo, cut the cameras, man. 84 00:05:44,614 --> 00:05:45,476 Come on, dog. 85 00:05:45,614 --> 00:05:46,944 Come on. Come on. 86 00:05:47,027 --> 00:05:48,027 - You all right? - Hey! 87 00:05:48,165 --> 00:05:49,358 - One... - Ladies and gentlemen... 88 00:05:49,441 --> 00:05:50,521 And a-two, and a-three... 89 00:05:50,614 --> 00:05:51,545 Insane. 90 00:05:51,648 --> 00:05:52,993 This guy's insane. 91 00:05:53,096 --> 00:05:55,600 Ladies and gentlemen, introducing Eminem. 92 00:05:55,683 --> 00:05:57,565 Y'all give it up for Eminem. 93 00:05:59,027 --> 00:05:59,944 - What's up, dog? - What's up, man? 94 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:01,407 How you doing? 95 00:06:01,510 --> 00:06:03,324 That right there, it brought me back so much. 96 00:06:03,407 --> 00:06:06,841 Just the energy that he came in when he was onscreen 97 00:06:06,924 --> 00:06:08,372 was a different type of energy. 98 00:06:10,303 --> 00:06:12,289 This is an artist called Eminem. 99 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:13,545 It's spelled funky. 100 00:06:13,648 --> 00:06:14,510 If you're going to pronounce it, 101 00:06:14,614 --> 00:06:15,979 it's like the candy. Eminem. 102 00:06:16,062 --> 00:06:18,338 I'm keeping it gangster, homie. 103 00:06:18,441 --> 00:06:20,186 I'm keeping it gangster. 104 00:06:20,269 --> 00:06:22,462 I am flexing my bum-bum. 105 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:25,614 There was a shock factor 106 00:06:25,717 --> 00:06:27,358 when I was first discovering Eminem. 107 00:06:27,441 --> 00:06:29,890 Here's Eminem doing one of the best Michael Jackson 108 00:06:29,993 --> 00:06:31,269 impersonations I've ever seen. 109 00:06:31,372 --> 00:06:32,979 He was definitely a loose cannon. 110 00:06:33,062 --> 00:06:34,131 Mom! 111 00:06:34,234 --> 00:06:36,269 No, yes, you did molest me. 112 00:06:36,372 --> 00:06:37,807 This dude, he's got a good sense of humor, 113 00:06:37,890 --> 00:06:40,324 and he's willing to express his art, you know, 114 00:06:40,407 --> 00:06:41,752 with no boundaries. 115 00:06:41,855 --> 00:06:44,841 I was 10 years old sitting at home watching MTV 116 00:06:44,924 --> 00:06:46,979 in hopes to see the Backstreet Boys 117 00:06:47,062 --> 00:06:48,752 or NSYNC come on, 118 00:06:48,855 --> 00:06:50,752 but it was Marshall Mathers. 119 00:06:50,855 --> 00:06:53,269 Slim Shady came on with "My Name Is," 120 00:06:53,372 --> 00:06:55,372 and my whole life changed after that. 121 00:07:05,476 --> 00:07:08,082 I was coming home from the police academy, 122 00:07:08,165 --> 00:07:10,565 and I hear, "Hi, my name is." 123 00:07:10,648 --> 00:07:12,338 And I was like, what is this? 124 00:07:12,441 --> 00:07:14,372 And so I listened to it all the way home. 125 00:07:14,476 --> 00:07:16,220 It's not like anything else I've heard before. 126 00:07:16,303 --> 00:07:17,476 I'm in. 127 00:07:24,890 --> 00:07:27,027 You want to copy me and do exactly what I did? 128 00:07:27,165 --> 00:07:29,393 Try 'cid and get fucked up worse than my life is? 129 00:07:29,476 --> 00:07:31,855 I was like, what? Yeah! 130 00:07:31,993 --> 00:07:33,131 Sign me up. 131 00:07:33,234 --> 00:07:34,600 I'll do it. 132 00:07:40,476 --> 00:07:41,634 Most of these rappers back then, 133 00:07:41,717 --> 00:07:43,821 they want to portray this, I'm from the streets, 134 00:07:43,924 --> 00:07:45,944 I'm a thug, I'm this, don't fuck with me. 135 00:07:46,027 --> 00:07:47,082 He's just being him. 136 00:07:47,165 --> 00:07:48,821 He's just having a grand time. 137 00:07:54,303 --> 00:07:56,910 Nobody was making those type of music videos. 138 00:07:56,993 --> 00:07:59,772 Most people were like, half-naked, dancing, 139 00:07:59,855 --> 00:08:01,151 doing, like, these big numbers. 140 00:08:01,234 --> 00:08:03,186 And he had, like, storylines. 141 00:08:08,372 --> 00:08:11,821 When he started going at these pop culture people, 142 00:08:11,924 --> 00:08:16,151 making fun of them to the T, I'm just like, oh, my God, 143 00:08:16,234 --> 00:08:19,131 dude, this guy really doesn't give a fuck. 144 00:08:19,234 --> 00:08:20,979 I was, like, hypnotized. 145 00:08:21,062 --> 00:08:23,496 Like, my eyes were, like, glued to the screen, 146 00:08:23,579 --> 00:08:29,324 and that kick started my obsession with him. 147 00:08:29,407 --> 00:08:32,924 We be live in Times Square, "Total Request Live," 148 00:08:33,062 --> 00:08:35,062 with the big videos, the most requested ones. 149 00:08:35,165 --> 00:08:36,634 How about a round of applause for Eminem? 150 00:08:36,717 --> 00:08:37,669 Hi. 151 00:08:37,752 --> 00:08:38,786 Making his... 152 00:08:38,890 --> 00:08:40,545 "TRL" at the time was new. 153 00:08:40,648 --> 00:08:42,786 It was always our intent to have it be 154 00:08:42,890 --> 00:08:45,441 an exact reflection of our audience. 155 00:08:45,579 --> 00:08:47,013 It was like, what if we gave one hour of this network 156 00:08:47,096 --> 00:08:48,234 to the fans? 157 00:08:48,338 --> 00:08:49,234 And let's ask them what they want. 158 00:08:49,338 --> 00:08:50,234 Let's take their requests. 159 00:08:50,338 --> 00:08:51,717 I was a radio guy, and we did a lot 160 00:08:51,855 --> 00:08:53,013 of, like, requests in radio. 161 00:08:53,096 --> 00:08:54,096 Who did you want to see? 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,579 Congratulations. 163 00:08:55,683 --> 00:08:57,048 "Slim Shady" is going to number two next week... 164 00:08:57,131 --> 00:08:58,062 - Thank you. - On the charts. 165 00:08:58,165 --> 00:08:59,358 Thank you. 166 00:08:59,441 --> 00:09:00,496 That deserves a round of applause right there. 167 00:09:00,579 --> 00:09:03,255 With a little... little bit of help from MTV. 168 00:09:03,338 --> 00:09:05,096 I've seen fans. I've seen it all. 169 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,958 I've never seen anything like Marshall, Eminem fans, ever. 170 00:09:09,062 --> 00:09:10,372 My name is! 171 00:09:10,476 --> 00:09:11,979 How they show up, what they look like, 172 00:09:12,062 --> 00:09:14,875 the connection that they have with this artist, 173 00:09:14,958 --> 00:09:16,565 it's really deep. 174 00:09:16,648 --> 00:09:17,875 The reason why we're here today 175 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:19,476 is because of his creation of "Stan." 176 00:09:19,579 --> 00:09:21,614 He created a culture that is 177 00:09:21,717 --> 00:09:23,255 so out of the boundary 178 00:09:23,338 --> 00:09:25,303 of regular pop culture 179 00:09:25,407 --> 00:09:27,200 that he made his own term. 180 00:09:27,303 --> 00:09:29,393 Anything I can grab on Eminem, I'll find. 181 00:09:29,476 --> 00:09:32,958 Over a thousand interviews I've watched, rewatched. 182 00:09:33,062 --> 00:09:35,142 He was the first one where I was like, you know what? 183 00:09:35,234 --> 00:09:36,648 I could marry this guy. 184 00:09:36,752 --> 00:09:38,545 I would say that I'm a Stan. 185 00:09:38,648 --> 00:09:41,565 I know three albums back to back lyrically, 186 00:09:41,648 --> 00:09:43,821 every single word of... of everything. 187 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:47,786 I remember being him for the talent show when I was 188 00:09:47,890 --> 00:09:49,924 11 and dressing up, white T-shirt. 189 00:09:50,027 --> 00:09:51,372 I sprayed my hair yellow. 190 00:09:51,476 --> 00:09:54,165 When I was five my brother exposed me to his songs, 191 00:09:54,303 --> 00:09:56,600 and I kept listening to it over and over, 192 00:09:56,683 --> 00:09:58,303 and all my friends were like, oh, my God. 193 00:09:58,407 --> 00:10:01,165 Like, girl, you need to calm down. 194 00:10:01,269 --> 00:10:03,993 I have a book, a specific book that I made. 195 00:10:04,096 --> 00:10:06,255 When I see Eminem, 196 00:10:06,338 --> 00:10:07,338 I put it in the book. 197 00:10:10,958 --> 00:10:13,772 There was a point in time where every single magazine 198 00:10:13,855 --> 00:10:17,441 cover you looked at or saw, no matter where you were, 199 00:10:17,545 --> 00:10:18,910 Marshall was on the cover. 200 00:10:23,958 --> 00:10:27,393 For so many people admiring you that much 201 00:10:27,476 --> 00:10:29,786 and having such a strong reaction to you, 202 00:10:29,924 --> 00:10:32,427 it must have been, like, a high or something. 203 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:35,531 And the winner is Eminem, "My Name Is." 204 00:10:35,614 --> 00:10:37,910 I want to thank all the fans 205 00:10:37,993 --> 00:10:39,683 that made "Slim Shady" possible. 206 00:10:39,821 --> 00:10:42,082 All of a sudden, you're skyrocketed into fame, 207 00:10:42,165 --> 00:10:44,131 and it's everything you've ever wanted, 208 00:10:44,234 --> 00:10:45,358 everything you ever dreamed of. 209 00:10:45,441 --> 00:10:47,958 I can't even imagine that. 210 00:10:48,062 --> 00:10:51,614 Has it ever felt normal in any sense of that word? 211 00:10:51,752 --> 00:10:54,358 Well, none of this is normal. 212 00:10:54,441 --> 00:10:55,427 None of it's normal. 213 00:10:55,510 --> 00:10:57,510 Once the "Hi, My Name Is" video, 214 00:10:57,648 --> 00:11:02,496 once MTV accepted that and played it, 215 00:11:02,579 --> 00:11:05,545 it was like a fucking switch went off overnight. 216 00:11:05,683 --> 00:11:08,324 And all of a sudden, I woke up the next day from that, 217 00:11:08,407 --> 00:11:12,372 and my entire life was changed forever. 218 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:15,200 Um, uh, we're gonna go to, uh, my old house, 219 00:11:15,303 --> 00:11:16,358 and I'm going to knock on the door 220 00:11:16,441 --> 00:11:17,462 and see if I can get in 221 00:11:17,545 --> 00:11:19,579 'cause I left something in my room. 222 00:11:19,683 --> 00:11:21,027 This is the house. 223 00:11:21,165 --> 00:11:22,807 See back there, that used to be a garage. 224 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:25,407 One of my longtime friends, Deshaun Holton. 225 00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:27,027 He's a rapper too. His name is Proof. 226 00:11:27,165 --> 00:11:28,875 He used to take me up in the lunchroom at Osborn. 227 00:11:28,958 --> 00:11:30,338 What's up, dog? 228 00:11:30,441 --> 00:11:32,634 I used to battle, like, a lot of kids in the school. 229 00:11:32,717 --> 00:11:34,772 Proof was Eminem's best friend. 230 00:11:34,855 --> 00:11:37,117 He was there from the beginning. 231 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,165 Proof gave him a lot of the confidence 232 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:40,407 and a lot of courage. 233 00:11:40,545 --> 00:11:41,462 The illest story is we used to do 234 00:11:41,545 --> 00:11:42,944 the "White Men Can't Jump" thing. 235 00:11:43,027 --> 00:11:44,372 I used to go in to sneak him... 236 00:11:44,476 --> 00:11:45,855 I used to sneak him into Osborn, 237 00:11:45,958 --> 00:11:47,600 and everybody would be like, I'll battle you, man. 238 00:11:47,683 --> 00:11:48,683 I'll battle. 239 00:11:48,821 --> 00:11:50,807 I'm like, you ain't can't battle me. 240 00:11:50,890 --> 00:11:52,338 Why don't you battle him? 241 00:11:52,441 --> 00:11:54,027 And they'd be like, oh, the white boy? 242 00:11:54,131 --> 00:11:56,165 I'ma kill him! 243 00:11:56,269 --> 00:11:57,441 I'ma kill him! 244 00:11:57,545 --> 00:11:58,875 Then he'd come out busting a rhyme... 245 00:12:00,890 --> 00:12:02,013 Everybody and they friends like... 246 00:12:03,441 --> 00:12:05,821 One of the reasons I love Eminem's story 247 00:12:05,924 --> 00:12:09,614 is because he didn't set out to become famous. 248 00:12:09,752 --> 00:12:12,048 He loves his art. He loves what he does. 249 00:12:12,131 --> 00:12:13,703 Hello, I'm Slim Shady. 250 00:12:13,786 --> 00:12:16,186 I don't think he ever could have seen 251 00:12:16,269 --> 00:12:18,890 where it would have gone to. 252 00:12:18,993 --> 00:12:21,186 I cut class... don't tell my mother... 253 00:12:21,269 --> 00:12:22,703 and... 254 00:12:22,786 --> 00:12:24,614 And we were sitting in my boy's house, 255 00:12:24,717 --> 00:12:28,752 and we had MTV playing, and my boys were just like, 256 00:12:28,855 --> 00:12:30,407 oh, just another white rapper. 257 00:12:30,510 --> 00:12:32,324 And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 258 00:12:32,407 --> 00:12:34,958 I've never heard anybody do it like he did it. 259 00:12:35,096 --> 00:12:36,772 And that's when I started going down that wormhole. 260 00:12:38,510 --> 00:12:40,131 Where did he come from? 261 00:12:40,234 --> 00:12:42,717 Where was his origin story? 262 00:13:12,441 --> 00:13:15,027 When I found out that this is a battle rap rapper, 263 00:13:15,131 --> 00:13:18,427 and rapping all these Black rappers in Detroit? 264 00:13:21,924 --> 00:13:23,186 I knew this was a matter of time 265 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:24,683 that this guy was going to make it. 266 00:13:24,821 --> 00:13:26,289 I've been rhyming a long time, 267 00:13:26,372 --> 00:13:28,338 and battle rap is everything, 268 00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:29,821 you know what I'm saying? 269 00:13:29,924 --> 00:13:35,131 It is the equivalent of being completely vetted in hip-hop, 270 00:13:35,234 --> 00:13:36,255 you know what I'm saying? 271 00:13:36,338 --> 00:13:37,890 Because you learn crowd control, 272 00:13:37,993 --> 00:13:40,338 those lyrical choices, that storytelling. 273 00:13:40,441 --> 00:13:42,683 That's not stuff that you can make up. 274 00:13:42,786 --> 00:13:44,165 You can't fake that. 275 00:13:44,269 --> 00:13:46,545 Eminem is forged in battle rap. 276 00:13:46,683 --> 00:13:49,255 He's what I call a natural-born killer. 277 00:13:49,338 --> 00:13:51,200 And then he took that to the Rap Olympics, 278 00:13:51,338 --> 00:13:54,944 where all the best rappers battle for number one. 279 00:14:00,096 --> 00:14:04,186 The first prize was $500, and I needed that $500, man, 280 00:14:04,269 --> 00:14:05,407 and I lost. 281 00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:07,269 I was fucking devastated. 282 00:14:07,407 --> 00:14:11,890 For him to lose, he was crushed. 283 00:14:12,027 --> 00:14:14,634 But an intern approached him and said, "Hey, man, 284 00:14:14,717 --> 00:14:16,324 can I have one of your tapes?" 285 00:14:16,407 --> 00:14:18,496 And then he left to go back home to Detroit 286 00:14:18,579 --> 00:14:21,062 to try to continue to make music. 287 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,890 All of a sudden, we get a call from Jimmy Iovine 288 00:14:23,993 --> 00:14:27,027 and Dre himself saying, "We want to meet with you. 289 00:14:27,131 --> 00:14:28,717 We like your tape." 290 00:14:28,855 --> 00:14:30,614 Dr. Dre, to me, 291 00:14:30,717 --> 00:14:33,786 is the greatest producer of our time. 292 00:14:40,165 --> 00:14:41,752 The first time I heard Eminem was in, 293 00:14:41,890 --> 00:14:43,979 um, Jimmy's garage, where he used 294 00:14:44,062 --> 00:14:45,496 to have a listening section. 295 00:14:45,579 --> 00:14:47,614 And back then, it was just cassette tapes, 296 00:14:47,752 --> 00:14:49,841 and he popped this one in, and he said, 297 00:14:49,924 --> 00:14:51,186 "What do you think about this?" 298 00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:52,772 And it just happened to be Eminem's demo, 299 00:14:52,855 --> 00:14:54,717 and it had five songs on it, and one of them 300 00:14:54,855 --> 00:14:57,703 was a song called "I Just Don't Give a Fuck." 301 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:05,393 I thought it was just fucking fascinating. 302 00:15:05,476 --> 00:15:07,958 I had no idea that what I was listening to 303 00:15:08,062 --> 00:15:09,441 was a white guy, right? 304 00:15:09,545 --> 00:15:10,738 I had no idea. 305 00:15:10,821 --> 00:15:12,738 I just knew that I wanted to work with him. 306 00:15:12,821 --> 00:15:14,875 Dre was just all in. 307 00:15:14,958 --> 00:15:17,993 And when Dre likes something that much, 308 00:15:18,096 --> 00:15:20,427 we really pay attention, especially me. 309 00:15:20,510 --> 00:15:24,303 So I was kind of like, OK, fly this guy out here. 310 00:15:24,407 --> 00:15:25,738 And when you first met, 311 00:15:25,821 --> 00:15:27,101 what did you think of each other? 312 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,531 I thought he was Tweety Bird. 313 00:15:31,062 --> 00:15:33,027 - No, 'cause he had this real... - Fuck you. 314 00:15:33,131 --> 00:15:36,821 He had this real bright fucking yellow sweat suit on. 315 00:15:36,924 --> 00:15:38,220 Man, if I hear one more thing 316 00:15:38,303 --> 00:15:40,648 about that goddamn sweat suit. 317 00:15:40,752 --> 00:15:42,786 Why are you wearing a yellow sash? 318 00:15:42,924 --> 00:15:43,993 The yellow sash. 319 00:15:44,131 --> 00:15:46,738 Um, in honor of Eminem's yellow jumpsuit 320 00:15:46,821 --> 00:15:48,738 the day he met Dre, which I think is just 321 00:15:48,821 --> 00:15:50,545 such a magical moment in itself. 322 00:15:50,648 --> 00:15:53,082 But he called me a banana when he met me, 323 00:15:53,165 --> 00:15:56,131 so it was on from there. 324 00:15:56,269 --> 00:15:58,703 Dre has always been pushing the edges. 325 00:15:58,786 --> 00:16:01,890 And this guy starts on the edge, 326 00:16:01,993 --> 00:16:05,807 so it was a... it was a marriage made somewhere. 327 00:16:07,510 --> 00:16:11,324 Without Dre, I don't know where Eminem would be, 328 00:16:11,407 --> 00:16:14,890 and what shaped him in his earlier life 329 00:16:14,993 --> 00:16:17,510 carries on with him even now. 330 00:16:19,131 --> 00:16:21,441 Hey, Em, what's going on? It's Paul. 331 00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:23,027 Uh, listen, if you wanna talk 332 00:16:23,131 --> 00:16:25,151 to those camera crews, go ahead, 333 00:16:25,234 --> 00:16:26,979 just don't say a bunch of dumb shit. 334 00:16:27,062 --> 00:16:28,683 All right, call me back. 335 00:16:30,752 --> 00:16:32,924 There's a lot of method to this madness. 336 00:16:33,027 --> 00:16:35,944 I always keep this shit, Entertainer's Secret. 337 00:16:36,027 --> 00:16:38,441 Shh. Don't tell nobody. 338 00:16:38,545 --> 00:16:42,634 Um, it's, uh... actually, Rick Rubin told me about this, 339 00:16:42,717 --> 00:16:45,372 and ever since the day he told me about it, 340 00:16:45,476 --> 00:16:48,717 I've been using it for the past seven years straight. 341 00:16:48,855 --> 00:16:51,924 I use it onstage. It's fucking incredible. 342 00:16:52,027 --> 00:16:56,338 Especially, like, you know, my voice only lasts so long, 343 00:16:56,441 --> 00:16:59,027 especially if I'm doing, like, some, like, 344 00:16:59,165 --> 00:17:00,579 screaming shit or something. 345 00:17:00,683 --> 00:17:04,407 So like, this is the... this is my best friend right here. 346 00:17:04,510 --> 00:17:06,545 What's it taste like? 347 00:17:06,648 --> 00:17:08,579 Uh, semen. 348 00:17:08,683 --> 00:17:11,441 Not that I know how that tastes. 349 00:17:11,545 --> 00:17:17,096 But if I were to guess, I would say semen. 350 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,531 I go through pens. 351 00:17:18,614 --> 00:17:20,186 I did go through a couple years 352 00:17:20,269 --> 00:17:23,062 where I was trying to use red ink and blue ink, 353 00:17:23,165 --> 00:17:25,738 different colored inks for different color ideas, 354 00:17:25,821 --> 00:17:27,841 like different ideas and shit, but it didn't work. 355 00:17:27,924 --> 00:17:31,821 I just stuck to the black and just stayed with it. 356 00:17:31,924 --> 00:17:34,531 Every time I write, there's different stages of it, 357 00:17:34,614 --> 00:17:38,096 and that's one of the reasons that I keep a book now 358 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,786 and I never get writer's block. 359 00:17:42,958 --> 00:17:45,476 I'm always able to go back in my book 360 00:17:45,579 --> 00:17:48,924 and have unlimited ideas. 361 00:17:51,062 --> 00:17:54,269 Sometimes I just write my rhyming words down 362 00:17:54,372 --> 00:17:57,393 and not the stuff in between, so that it can't be 363 00:17:57,476 --> 00:18:00,165 put together if someone finds it. 364 00:18:05,372 --> 00:18:08,600 To see his lyric sheets, I mean, this is... 365 00:18:08,683 --> 00:18:10,427 this is magic right here. 366 00:18:10,510 --> 00:18:13,062 If I could own an original piece 367 00:18:13,165 --> 00:18:14,821 I would frame this in my home, 368 00:18:14,924 --> 00:18:16,220 and I'd point it out to any fucking people 369 00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:17,510 that walked in. 370 00:18:17,648 --> 00:18:19,165 I'd make them look at it with me. 371 00:18:19,269 --> 00:18:21,648 I'd make them dissect it under a microscope with me. 372 00:18:21,752 --> 00:18:24,338 I'd make them say, "oh, yo, this song... 373 00:18:24,441 --> 00:18:25,717 this line went into this song." 374 00:18:25,821 --> 00:18:26,821 I'm looking at something 375 00:18:26,924 --> 00:18:28,958 that resembles my grocery list. 376 00:18:30,303 --> 00:18:31,565 I write like this. 377 00:18:31,648 --> 00:18:32,648 My husband hates it. 378 00:18:32,752 --> 00:18:35,165 I seriously write the same way. 379 00:18:35,269 --> 00:18:37,062 I want to pick this man's brain. 380 00:18:37,165 --> 00:18:39,131 Like, it's a lot of just, like, scribbles 381 00:18:39,234 --> 00:18:40,165 and, like, thoughts. 382 00:18:40,303 --> 00:18:43,648 But wow, this is... 383 00:18:43,786 --> 00:18:45,772 yeah. 384 00:18:45,855 --> 00:18:47,944 There's... there's a lot of cursing on here. 385 00:18:48,027 --> 00:18:49,117 But I think it says, 386 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,944 "Fuck, I'm sick of duckin' in public." 387 00:18:55,131 --> 00:18:57,910 When I look at the handwritten lyrics, 388 00:18:57,993 --> 00:19:00,407 I feel like I see a busy brain. 389 00:19:05,648 --> 00:19:09,441 Seeing how he gets the things out of his brain 390 00:19:09,579 --> 00:19:12,841 that way definitely influenced me to get your thoughts out 391 00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:13,979 and making sense of them. 392 00:19:14,062 --> 00:19:15,393 You know, I have a PhD, but it's not 393 00:19:15,476 --> 00:19:17,441 in typography or whatever. 394 00:19:17,545 --> 00:19:19,013 But it's like, it certainly looks like someone 395 00:19:19,096 --> 00:19:23,096 who is dealing with some intense emotion. 396 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,372 It looks like it was very scribbled down 397 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:26,875 kind of hastily, 398 00:19:26,958 --> 00:19:29,890 and trying to spontaneously capture something. 399 00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:35,200 I think it was, like, a "Rolling Stone" interview. 400 00:19:35,303 --> 00:19:37,407 They asked him if he ever thought about 401 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,614 going to a shrink, and he said he don't need to 402 00:19:39,717 --> 00:19:42,717 'cause his music is his therapy, and honestly, 403 00:19:42,821 --> 00:19:45,062 that's... that's the best therapy there is. 404 00:19:45,165 --> 00:19:47,234 Like, when you have an outlet, something that you're 405 00:19:47,372 --> 00:19:49,807 passionate about, and you use that. 406 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:51,027 That's the best way. 407 00:19:54,752 --> 00:19:58,324 My childhood certainly wasn't the greatest. 408 00:19:58,407 --> 00:20:02,358 I always took that learning experiences from my childhood 409 00:20:02,441 --> 00:20:04,496 and life lessons and kind of was able 410 00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:08,703 to apply them through my music. 411 00:20:08,786 --> 00:20:11,531 I definitely find relatability in him 412 00:20:11,614 --> 00:20:14,786 because he's somebody who has written 413 00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:18,186 so honestly about struggling, and I feel like that's why 414 00:20:18,269 --> 00:20:21,096 so many people can relate to him. 415 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,703 I had the greatest life in the world, 416 00:20:22,786 --> 00:20:24,186 coming from a single-parent home. 417 00:20:24,269 --> 00:20:25,752 You know, my mother never had a job. 418 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:27,441 I hate to say that, you know. 419 00:20:27,545 --> 00:20:30,614 But, um, it took a toll, man, being bounced around 420 00:20:30,717 --> 00:20:32,358 from school to school to school to school to school, 421 00:20:32,441 --> 00:20:33,683 from state to state. 422 00:20:33,786 --> 00:20:35,703 And friends come over and you don't 423 00:20:35,786 --> 00:20:38,324 want them to see your family's on welfare and shit, 424 00:20:38,407 --> 00:20:40,683 so you hide the cheese and shit like that. 425 00:20:40,786 --> 00:20:42,027 You know, that's real. 426 00:20:42,131 --> 00:20:43,324 I mean, it's funny, but it's not funny, 427 00:20:43,407 --> 00:20:44,579 you know what I mean? 428 00:20:44,717 --> 00:20:46,151 It's like I look back on it like, damn, 429 00:20:46,234 --> 00:20:48,062 that's fucked up, you know, but... 430 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,703 My mom and I had a pretty unstable relationship 431 00:20:51,786 --> 00:20:54,614 growing up, and there was a lot of struggles 432 00:20:54,717 --> 00:20:57,703 with finances 'cause it was just the two of us. 433 00:20:57,786 --> 00:21:00,186 I also came out as a transgender man, 434 00:21:00,269 --> 00:21:02,289 and transness, or even queerness, 435 00:21:02,372 --> 00:21:06,476 was not a conversation in the area I grew up in. 436 00:21:06,579 --> 00:21:11,372 Being born female, it was a very isolating, like, 437 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:15,427 feeling to not really know anyone else 438 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:16,993 who I could relate to. 439 00:21:17,096 --> 00:21:22,717 His struggles with bullying also lined up with mine. 440 00:21:22,855 --> 00:21:25,117 There was a lot of moments where I didn't make... 441 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,427 like, I wasn't sure if I would make it out on the other side. 442 00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:32,289 Eminem was bullied relentlessly 443 00:21:32,372 --> 00:21:34,062 in elementary school. 444 00:21:34,165 --> 00:21:37,738 And it's horribly tragic to me because even now 445 00:21:37,821 --> 00:21:39,234 I carry some of the traumas 446 00:21:39,338 --> 00:21:43,772 of my own life from being bullied, 447 00:21:43,855 --> 00:21:46,821 and I can feel that in some of the music he's written. 448 00:21:46,924 --> 00:21:48,855 So in the song "Brain Damage," 449 00:21:48,993 --> 00:21:53,234 Eminem or Marshall is getting bullied at school. 450 00:22:14,683 --> 00:22:16,875 You know, bleeding on the carpet 451 00:22:16,958 --> 00:22:20,013 and then having your parent being like, look at you, 452 00:22:20,096 --> 00:22:22,062 you're getting blood all over my rugs... 453 00:22:22,165 --> 00:22:24,013 I felt that. 454 00:22:24,096 --> 00:22:26,131 Growing up, I would get into fights. 455 00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:29,186 I'd get into fights a good amount. 456 00:22:29,269 --> 00:22:32,269 I'd get bullied from other kids 457 00:22:32,372 --> 00:22:35,131 calling me a faggot for wearing tight pants 458 00:22:35,234 --> 00:22:37,441 because I was a skater kid. 459 00:22:37,545 --> 00:22:39,476 Going into my room, and then putting on 460 00:22:39,579 --> 00:22:43,717 a song like "Brain Damage," that's what helped me. 461 00:22:43,821 --> 00:22:45,324 It was sophomore year, and I went to go 462 00:22:45,407 --> 00:22:47,545 to a Super Bowl party with my friends. 463 00:22:47,648 --> 00:22:49,062 We were watching the Super Bowl, 464 00:22:49,165 --> 00:22:50,151 and I had my hands in my head... 465 00:22:50,234 --> 00:22:52,234 my head in my hands like this, 466 00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:54,855 sitting on the ground with my stomach on the ground, 467 00:22:54,958 --> 00:22:56,496 looking up at the TV. 468 00:22:56,579 --> 00:23:00,269 And a kid on the couch spilled his iced tea 469 00:23:00,407 --> 00:23:03,476 and went, "Oh, I know what I can use to pick that up with," 470 00:23:03,614 --> 00:23:05,131 and grabbed his other friend. 471 00:23:05,269 --> 00:23:07,013 They picked me up by my feet and used my hair as a mop 472 00:23:07,096 --> 00:23:11,165 and then threw me on the ground, and I was... 473 00:23:11,269 --> 00:23:15,096 these were supposed to be my friends. 474 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,476 It made me sometimes not want to go to school, 475 00:23:18,579 --> 00:23:22,993 but I went because I had Marshall's music. 476 00:23:24,752 --> 00:23:26,255 I would put my CD player on 477 00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:29,648 and just walk through the hallways. 478 00:23:29,752 --> 00:23:31,738 He inspired me to write. 479 00:23:31,821 --> 00:23:33,717 I write poetry. 480 00:23:33,855 --> 00:23:37,944 I loved how he could just bend the English language, 481 00:23:38,027 --> 00:23:40,648 use different words to rhyme off other words 482 00:23:40,752 --> 00:23:42,993 that necessarily wouldn't rhyme, 483 00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:46,476 like orange, door hinge, syringe. 484 00:23:46,579 --> 00:23:50,338 That's great. 485 00:23:50,441 --> 00:23:55,338 His music made me feel like I wasn't alone in this world, 486 00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:57,476 with what I was going through. 487 00:23:59,441 --> 00:24:01,324 Hip-hop was the most important thing 488 00:24:01,407 --> 00:24:03,358 that empowered me as a kid. 489 00:24:03,441 --> 00:24:05,890 It made me feel tough when I wasn't. 490 00:24:05,993 --> 00:24:09,062 I was a scrawny little kid growing up on 8 Mile, 491 00:24:09,165 --> 00:24:12,186 walking up the fucking block, put headphones on, 492 00:24:12,269 --> 00:24:15,531 and it made me feel powerful. 493 00:24:15,614 --> 00:24:18,441 Hip-hop, it taught me how to throw my first punch, 494 00:24:18,579 --> 00:24:21,062 gave me the confidence. It was like my dad. 495 00:24:21,165 --> 00:24:23,372 And it was the only thing that made me empowered. 496 00:24:23,476 --> 00:24:25,013 It made me feel good about myself. 497 00:24:25,096 --> 00:24:26,738 And when I started being able to write rhymes 498 00:24:26,821 --> 00:24:28,752 and figured out I could do it, 499 00:24:28,890 --> 00:24:32,752 that's where the feeling comes from. 500 00:24:32,855 --> 00:24:36,234 As a teenager, I definitely had a lot of anger. 501 00:24:36,338 --> 00:24:39,462 I haven't met my father in person since I was probably, 502 00:24:39,545 --> 00:24:42,614 like, one or two or something. 503 00:24:42,752 --> 00:24:44,890 But I never had anybody that I could relate to 504 00:24:44,993 --> 00:24:48,013 in that regard growing up. 505 00:24:48,096 --> 00:24:49,634 Whenever he would talk about his father too, 506 00:24:49,717 --> 00:24:51,717 he always sounded so angry. 507 00:24:51,855 --> 00:24:54,579 So I always gravitated more towards 508 00:24:54,683 --> 00:24:56,634 the angrier-sounding Eminem, 509 00:24:56,717 --> 00:24:59,186 and Slim Shady was his alter ego 510 00:24:59,269 --> 00:25:00,579 and split personality for that. 511 00:25:00,717 --> 00:25:03,510 Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers. 512 00:25:03,614 --> 00:25:05,821 Could you briefly tell us where one stops, 513 00:25:05,924 --> 00:25:07,186 the other one begins, and the difference 514 00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:08,772 between the three different characters? 515 00:25:08,855 --> 00:25:12,407 Marshall Mathers stops when the Bacardi kicks in, 516 00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:14,096 and then it's Slim Shady. 517 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,165 Marshall is the human being where 518 00:25:16,269 --> 00:25:20,993 the heart and the human experience come from. 519 00:25:21,096 --> 00:25:24,703 Eminem is the artist through which Slim Shady 520 00:25:24,786 --> 00:25:26,372 and Marshall are channeled. 521 00:25:26,476 --> 00:25:28,427 That's where you see the skill and the talent. 522 00:25:28,510 --> 00:25:32,165 And then Slim Shady is this cartoon character. 523 00:25:32,303 --> 00:25:35,510 Slim is, uh, the jokester, the hey, 524 00:25:35,614 --> 00:25:36,993 I'm here for a good time. 525 00:25:37,131 --> 00:25:39,082 A crazy son of a bitch... 526 00:25:39,165 --> 00:25:42,082 Um, that I love. 527 00:25:42,165 --> 00:25:45,131 He has, like, this I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude. 528 00:25:45,234 --> 00:25:47,427 He's like a psycho, but in a good way. 529 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:49,855 Uh, says whatever the fuck he wants to say. 530 00:25:49,993 --> 00:25:53,082 He'll probably kill if you look at him the wrong way. 531 00:25:53,165 --> 00:25:54,407 I'm putting the mask on. 532 00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:56,082 I'm like, I can be me. 533 00:25:56,165 --> 00:25:57,303 I can say what I want. 534 00:25:57,407 --> 00:25:59,648 I can flip a fucking desk if I needed to. 535 00:25:59,786 --> 00:26:01,634 Even though he was just being himself, 536 00:26:01,717 --> 00:26:02,890 people didn't like that. 537 00:26:03,027 --> 00:26:04,683 People did not like that at all. 538 00:26:04,786 --> 00:26:05,841 I mean, let's just say the least, 539 00:26:05,924 --> 00:26:07,407 it was a trying time. 540 00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:11,200 We were criticized enormously for putting his music out. 541 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:14,634 That controversy was covered extensively by the media. 542 00:26:14,717 --> 00:26:16,117 While Black rappers often get a pass 543 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,407 on lyrical nihilism, 544 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:19,324 Eminem, who's white, has been taking 545 00:26:19,407 --> 00:26:22,372 some intense critical heat for his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes. 546 00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:24,324 In Eminem's songs, women are portrayed 547 00:26:24,407 --> 00:26:27,165 as little more than strippers, 548 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:30,062 punching bags, and sperm receptacles. 549 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,062 It's so sad to see those parents dropping 550 00:26:32,165 --> 00:26:33,683 their children off and saying, 551 00:26:33,786 --> 00:26:35,393 I don't know what the lyrics are all about. 552 00:26:35,476 --> 00:26:38,372 [Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons, 'Spring'" 553 00:26:43,062 --> 00:26:45,027 Perhaps one of the most interesting words 554 00:26:45,165 --> 00:26:49,027 in the English language today is the word "fuck." 555 00:26:49,165 --> 00:26:50,324 Out of all of the English words 556 00:26:50,407 --> 00:26:52,545 that begin with the letter F, 557 00:26:52,648 --> 00:26:55,993 "fuck" is the only word that is referred to as the F-word. 558 00:26:56,096 --> 00:27:00,289 It's the one magical word, just by its sound, 559 00:27:00,372 --> 00:27:04,096 can describe pain, pleasure, hate, and love. 560 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,407 In English, fuck falls into many grammatical categories. 561 00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:10,875 As a transitive verb, for instance: 562 00:27:10,958 --> 00:27:12,875 "John fucked Shirley." 563 00:27:12,958 --> 00:27:14,924 As an intransitive verb: 564 00:27:15,062 --> 00:27:16,565 "Shirley fucks." 565 00:27:16,648 --> 00:27:17,890 It can be used as an adjective, 566 00:27:17,993 --> 00:27:21,579 such as, "John's doing all the fucking work." 567 00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:23,358 As part of an adverb: 568 00:27:23,441 --> 00:27:25,890 "Shirley talks too fucking much." 569 00:27:25,993 --> 00:27:27,407 As a noun: 570 00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:29,393 "I don't give a fuck." 571 00:27:29,476 --> 00:27:31,875 With all of these multipurpose applications, 572 00:27:31,958 --> 00:27:35,165 how can anyone be offended when you use the word? 573 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:38,441 Say it loudly and proudly. 574 00:27:38,545 --> 00:27:42,096 Fuck you! 575 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,531 You rap about raping and killing women, 576 00:27:43,614 --> 00:27:44,979 but you really don't do that, do you, Eminem? 577 00:27:45,062 --> 00:27:46,427 - Yes. - You do rape and kill women? 578 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:47,441 Yes. 579 00:27:47,545 --> 00:27:49,048 Uh, are you amazed at the, uh, 580 00:27:49,131 --> 00:27:50,772 the firestorm that has begun, and are you afraid 581 00:27:50,855 --> 00:27:52,303 it could be a career-destroyer? 582 00:27:52,407 --> 00:27:54,269 Um, I'm not worried about it because anybody 583 00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:55,875 with half a brain is going to be able to tell 584 00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:57,786 when I'm joking and when I'm serious. 585 00:27:57,924 --> 00:27:59,993 With the first album, "The Slim Shady LP," 586 00:28:00,096 --> 00:28:02,338 all of a sudden, now it's important. 587 00:28:02,441 --> 00:28:04,993 What I have to say is important. 588 00:28:05,096 --> 00:28:09,772 I remember one of the first times signing autographs, 589 00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:11,890 there'd be, like, a line out the door, 590 00:28:12,027 --> 00:28:14,993 and somebody would be like, yo, I just want you to know, 591 00:28:15,096 --> 00:28:18,082 man, you helped me so much for... for this or for that. 592 00:28:18,165 --> 00:28:19,393 So now I'm like... 593 00:28:19,476 --> 00:28:20,717 What's your name? 594 00:28:20,821 --> 00:28:22,545 Writing a long paragraph for them and shit, 595 00:28:22,648 --> 00:28:24,545 and signing their name, and people are like, yo, 596 00:28:24,648 --> 00:28:25,841 can you speed it up a little bit? 597 00:28:25,924 --> 00:28:26,910 'Cause we're not going to get to everybody. 598 00:28:26,993 --> 00:28:27,944 - Hello. - Can I have a hug? 599 00:28:28,027 --> 00:28:29,338 How you doing? 600 00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:31,600 I was living inside it when it was all new to me 601 00:28:31,683 --> 00:28:33,683 and I still didn't understand it. 602 00:28:33,786 --> 00:28:36,510 You know, this guy has been somebody 603 00:28:36,614 --> 00:28:38,648 that I've been trying to meet for a long time, 604 00:28:38,752 --> 00:28:42,944 and he's not easy to get close to. 605 00:28:43,027 --> 00:28:46,372 Since I was 14, I had this fandom in me 606 00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:48,234 that I wanted to, like, express, 607 00:28:48,338 --> 00:28:50,165 and I just didn't know how to. 608 00:28:52,510 --> 00:28:55,855 I remember the first portrait tattoo that I got, 609 00:28:55,993 --> 00:28:59,338 being really anxious about the pain. 610 00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:05,013 It's like a scratch, quite a sharp scratch, 611 00:29:05,096 --> 00:29:06,841 and it depends kind of 612 00:29:06,924 --> 00:29:08,324 what it is that you're having done. 613 00:29:08,407 --> 00:29:10,752 Like, the lines are the worst because it's 614 00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,151 being dragged against your skin. 615 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:15,358 But I fell in love with the process 616 00:29:15,441 --> 00:29:17,752 of tattooing that day. 617 00:29:17,855 --> 00:29:21,131 I've kind of described it as, I walked in one person 618 00:29:21,234 --> 00:29:24,579 and left a different person. 619 00:29:24,717 --> 00:29:28,131 And then it kind of snowballed after that. 620 00:29:28,234 --> 00:29:30,579 In 2020, I set the Guinness World Record 621 00:29:30,717 --> 00:29:34,407 for having the most tattoos of the same musician. 622 00:29:34,510 --> 00:29:37,614 It has become my identity. 623 00:29:37,752 --> 00:29:41,234 Now that I've got the ink, I feel like 624 00:29:41,372 --> 00:29:43,890 I've got to have a possibility of meeting him. 625 00:29:45,890 --> 00:29:47,407 The first time I met Marshall was 626 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:49,200 for the "Rolling Stone" cover. 627 00:29:49,303 --> 00:29:52,324 I was just shown into, like, a conference room, 628 00:29:52,407 --> 00:29:54,200 and no one else was in there. 629 00:29:54,303 --> 00:29:56,303 And I sort of asked the security guy to let me in. 630 00:29:56,407 --> 00:29:58,062 Like, just, hey, is Marshall around? 631 00:29:58,165 --> 00:29:59,805 I just want to say hi, and all that stuff. 632 00:29:59,890 --> 00:30:01,841 So he pointed to a door that I didn't 633 00:30:01,924 --> 00:30:03,875 realize was the bathroom. 634 00:30:03,958 --> 00:30:07,890 And, uh, and I opened it up, and I heard him puking. 635 00:30:09,165 --> 00:30:10,510 He came out of the stall. 636 00:30:10,614 --> 00:30:12,200 I was like, uh, hi, Marshall, 637 00:30:12,303 --> 00:30:13,324 it's really nice to meet you. 638 00:30:13,407 --> 00:30:14,531 Put my hand out. 639 00:30:14,614 --> 00:30:15,634 I'm Anthony from "Rolling Stone," 640 00:30:15,717 --> 00:30:17,717 like, super dork. 641 00:30:17,821 --> 00:30:19,890 And he just looked at me and, like, burped... 642 00:30:21,096 --> 00:30:22,200 And, like, walked out. 643 00:30:25,131 --> 00:30:28,358 One of the three venues we went to that first night was, 644 00:30:28,441 --> 00:30:31,096 like, a 16-year-old's birthday party. 645 00:30:31,234 --> 00:30:33,234 You know, it was basically Beatlemania. 646 00:30:33,338 --> 00:30:36,407 They were grabbing at him, pulling at his shirt. 647 00:30:36,510 --> 00:30:38,752 The police were there to, like, make sure 648 00:30:38,855 --> 00:30:40,269 that the limo got in and out. 649 00:30:40,407 --> 00:30:41,979 There were girls, like, putting their boobs 650 00:30:42,062 --> 00:30:43,496 on the glass of the car. 651 00:30:43,579 --> 00:30:45,496 I remember him saying, like, you're pretty cute. 652 00:30:45,579 --> 00:30:48,717 I love you too, but I'm not going to jail. 653 00:30:48,855 --> 00:30:51,269 The night went from, you know, then until 654 00:30:51,372 --> 00:30:53,062 about 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning. 655 00:30:53,165 --> 00:30:54,269 And for the whole time, 656 00:30:54,407 --> 00:30:55,958 he didn't speak a word to me at all. 657 00:30:58,131 --> 00:31:02,165 So I've got my little circle of family and friends, 658 00:31:02,269 --> 00:31:03,910 people that I've basically grown up with, 659 00:31:03,993 --> 00:31:05,427 because I feel like, at this point, 660 00:31:05,510 --> 00:31:07,958 anybody that I meet after this only knows me 661 00:31:08,062 --> 00:31:11,565 for Eminem or Slim Shady and doesn't know Marshall. 662 00:31:11,648 --> 00:31:13,614 So that's why I keep those friends around, 663 00:31:13,717 --> 00:31:15,393 'cause I know that those are the people that 664 00:31:15,476 --> 00:31:17,875 really care about me for me. 665 00:31:17,958 --> 00:31:20,220 I think it was a defense against, like, 666 00:31:20,303 --> 00:31:22,614 the attention, the fame. Just survival. 667 00:31:22,717 --> 00:31:24,131 Just trying to, like, take it in 668 00:31:24,234 --> 00:31:25,531 and figure out what the hell's happening, 669 00:31:25,614 --> 00:31:27,027 'cause it happened so fast. 670 00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:33,027 - So you show it to Eminem? - Oh, yeah. 671 00:31:33,131 --> 00:31:34,048 - Yeah? - Yes. 672 00:31:34,131 --> 00:31:35,358 Hello, Eminem. 673 00:31:40,476 --> 00:31:43,338 It's really an eye-opener to see how crazy 674 00:31:43,441 --> 00:31:45,200 some people do get for Eminem. 675 00:31:45,303 --> 00:31:47,786 I travel the world for him. 676 00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:51,303 Nobody here. 677 00:31:51,407 --> 00:31:52,993 Just me and the camera. 678 00:31:53,096 --> 00:31:54,648 Oh, no. 679 00:31:54,752 --> 00:31:57,786 Well, one of these have to be the jet for the day. 680 00:31:57,890 --> 00:31:59,648 Want that one? Or even that one. 681 00:31:59,786 --> 00:32:01,807 Paul's telling me to put on my fucking seat belt, 682 00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:04,496 like if the plane crashes, it's gonna help. 683 00:32:04,579 --> 00:32:08,462 I've seen Eminem in concert about 30-something times. 684 00:32:08,545 --> 00:32:10,407 15 different cities 685 00:32:10,510 --> 00:32:12,634 in six, seven different countries. 686 00:32:12,717 --> 00:32:13,993 I'm a parrot. 687 00:32:14,096 --> 00:32:16,855 I'm an embarrassed parrot in Paris. 688 00:32:16,993 --> 00:32:18,234 - Oh, Eminem! - Eminem! 689 00:32:18,338 --> 00:32:19,944 Eminem! 690 00:32:20,027 --> 00:32:23,372 I made this costume because I wanted to wear 691 00:32:23,476 --> 00:32:26,890 something very eye-catching. 692 00:32:26,993 --> 00:32:29,855 They actually put me on camera 693 00:32:29,958 --> 00:32:31,372 throughout the stadium, 694 00:32:31,476 --> 00:32:33,821 and some random man put me on his shoulders 695 00:32:33,924 --> 00:32:35,841 to, like, showcase it. 696 00:32:35,924 --> 00:32:38,579 I was hoping, of course, he's gonna see my costume, 697 00:32:38,683 --> 00:32:40,200 and he's gonna think it's so cool, 698 00:32:40,303 --> 00:32:42,103 and he's gonna invite me on stage and meet me. 699 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200 I was asking Paul today, I was like, uh, 700 00:32:44,303 --> 00:32:45,600 why do people want to talk to me? 701 00:32:45,683 --> 00:32:47,717 And he was like, you rap well, 702 00:32:47,855 --> 00:32:49,669 you say a lot of personal shit, 703 00:32:49,752 --> 00:32:50,841 and your music and your life is like 704 00:32:50,924 --> 00:32:53,510 the fucking "Jerry Springer Show." 705 00:32:53,614 --> 00:32:54,944 "I didn't really start doing drugs 706 00:32:55,027 --> 00:32:56,545 "until I rapped about them. 707 00:32:56,648 --> 00:32:58,634 "When I was on tour rapping about Vicodin 708 00:32:58,717 --> 00:33:00,324 "or mushrooms or ecstasy, 709 00:33:00,407 --> 00:33:02,358 people started throwing that shit my way." 710 00:33:02,441 --> 00:33:03,531 "I couldn't believe the effect 711 00:33:03,614 --> 00:33:05,062 "my lyrics had on people. 712 00:33:05,165 --> 00:33:07,234 They thought we were literally drug addicts..." 713 00:33:07,338 --> 00:33:08,634 "And that they could get backstage 714 00:33:08,717 --> 00:33:09,924 "and bring us substances. 715 00:33:10,027 --> 00:33:11,186 "It was wild. 716 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:13,131 Welcome to rock and roll." 717 00:33:17,752 --> 00:33:19,372 Yo, they were so loud, we couldn't rap 718 00:33:19,476 --> 00:33:20,752 for, like, 10 minutes. 719 00:33:20,855 --> 00:33:22,117 Just seeing, like, how he was living 720 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,531 and the breakneck pace, 721 00:33:23,614 --> 00:33:26,048 instant stardom, instant fandom, 722 00:33:26,131 --> 00:33:27,427 and people starting to get obsessed. 723 00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:29,614 What the fuck? 724 00:33:29,752 --> 00:33:30,875 I was just rooting for him to, like... 725 00:33:30,958 --> 00:33:32,186 to hang on for the rocket ride. 726 00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:33,875 England, we're out of here. 727 00:33:33,958 --> 00:33:35,407 We love you. Thank you. 728 00:33:35,545 --> 00:33:37,407 Peace. 729 00:33:39,924 --> 00:33:42,269 Were you prepared for how much the fans 730 00:33:42,372 --> 00:33:43,924 would connect with you? 731 00:33:44,062 --> 00:33:49,407 What I put out was very much, um, 732 00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:52,786 raw and, like, just real, 733 00:33:52,924 --> 00:33:56,841 as far as situations in my life and how I came up 734 00:33:56,924 --> 00:33:57,890 and shit like that. 735 00:33:57,993 --> 00:34:01,462 And I think that that's maybe one 736 00:34:01,545 --> 00:34:05,821 of the things that made some people 737 00:34:05,958 --> 00:34:07,579 feel like they could relate. 738 00:34:07,683 --> 00:34:10,993 It was a weird, strange kind of adjustment, 739 00:34:11,096 --> 00:34:15,855 and my personality wasn't well-equipped to handle that. 740 00:34:16,924 --> 00:34:18,200 "FANatic." 741 00:34:18,338 --> 00:34:19,738 I've never gotten into any music 742 00:34:19,821 --> 00:34:21,427 like I've gotten into Eminem's lyrics. 743 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:25,372 Like, once I started listening to him, I couldn't stop. 744 00:34:25,476 --> 00:34:27,427 We are at the restaurant that Eminem worked at 745 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:28,993 before he made it big. 746 00:34:29,096 --> 00:34:31,255 Around the time Marshall's really starting to blow up, 747 00:34:31,338 --> 00:34:32,821 there's a million channels. 748 00:34:32,958 --> 00:34:34,255 You know, the Internet starts picking up. 749 00:34:34,338 --> 00:34:36,165 This is where Eminem spent most of his time. 750 00:34:36,269 --> 00:34:37,738 This is the phone Eminem touched. 751 00:34:37,821 --> 00:34:40,855 Content is just at its infancy of becoming king. 752 00:34:40,958 --> 00:34:43,062 From a media standpoint, you are really 753 00:34:43,165 --> 00:34:45,407 now into the minutia of what it takes 754 00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:47,062 to hold on to an audience. 755 00:34:47,165 --> 00:34:49,062 And what that came down to for us, really, 756 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,062 was like, the fan experience, we gotta go even more. 757 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,890 What was your best subject in school? 758 00:34:54,027 --> 00:34:55,545 Oh, my God, none. 759 00:34:55,648 --> 00:34:57,407 Maybe English. I was all right at English. 760 00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:58,855 Everything else I was horrible at. 761 00:34:58,958 --> 00:35:00,462 I was the worst. 762 00:35:00,545 --> 00:35:03,048 Fans just had such an insatiable appetite 763 00:35:03,131 --> 00:35:04,441 for more and more access 764 00:35:04,579 --> 00:35:05,841 to the artists that they loved. 765 00:35:05,924 --> 00:35:07,600 I mean, now you're really opening the floodgates 766 00:35:07,683 --> 00:35:08,875 for people who see that 767 00:35:08,958 --> 00:35:10,151 to live vicariously through that moment 768 00:35:10,234 --> 00:35:11,958 and go, "Well, that's all it takes." 769 00:35:12,096 --> 00:35:13,924 "I'm just going to jump on a plane to Detroit 770 00:35:14,062 --> 00:35:16,338 "and go find 8 Mile and walk around, 771 00:35:16,441 --> 00:35:18,372 "and I can just have the experience 772 00:35:18,476 --> 00:35:19,358 that they just showed me." 773 00:35:19,441 --> 00:35:21,441 I was in my early 20s 774 00:35:21,545 --> 00:35:23,614 when I started working at Gilbert's. 775 00:35:23,752 --> 00:35:25,738 And I knew Eminem worked there, obviously, 776 00:35:25,821 --> 00:35:29,062 so I was like, fuck it, I'll go work where Eminem worked. 777 00:35:29,165 --> 00:35:30,579 Like, I always wanted to, 778 00:35:30,717 --> 00:35:33,393 so one more thing closer to Eminem. 779 00:35:33,476 --> 00:35:35,786 And I stayed at that bitch for... 780 00:35:35,890 --> 00:35:37,531 for, like, 10 years, 781 00:35:37,614 --> 00:35:39,614 'cause I'm like, he's going to come in. 782 00:35:41,131 --> 00:35:42,048 That's crazy. 783 00:35:42,131 --> 00:35:44,048 The whole neighborhood's gone now. 784 00:35:44,131 --> 00:35:47,579 Me and Proof used to climb this tree all the time. 785 00:35:47,683 --> 00:35:49,717 And we would sit up in the tree, 786 00:35:49,821 --> 00:35:51,324 and he would always climb higher than me 787 00:35:51,407 --> 00:35:52,531 'cause he wasn't afraid of heights. 788 00:35:52,614 --> 00:35:53,703 I was. 789 00:35:53,786 --> 00:35:56,303 Um, and we would just sit there 790 00:35:56,441 --> 00:35:58,821 and talk about, like, what we was going to do 791 00:35:58,924 --> 00:36:00,772 once we made it as rappers. 792 00:36:03,165 --> 00:36:06,082 We shot here when the house had been condemned, 793 00:36:06,165 --> 00:36:07,786 but it wasn't burnt down yet. 794 00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:09,855 And, like, I don't know if you've ever 795 00:36:09,958 --> 00:36:12,821 been to, like, a house, go back when you were a kid... 796 00:36:12,924 --> 00:36:15,545 everything seems smaller. 797 00:36:15,683 --> 00:36:18,117 Bro, that motherfucker was like, here to here, 798 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,910 you could touch the living room walls. 799 00:36:19,993 --> 00:36:21,648 We tried to buy it, and the city 800 00:36:21,752 --> 00:36:22,958 had already condemned it. 801 00:36:23,062 --> 00:36:26,993 So they wouldn't sell it to us. 802 00:36:27,096 --> 00:36:29,289 Did it ever occur to you that fans would 803 00:36:29,372 --> 00:36:31,738 come here and make a pilgrimage? 804 00:36:31,821 --> 00:36:34,027 It's cool that people care, 805 00:36:34,165 --> 00:36:39,427 but it's also weird, still, 'cause you're like, 806 00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:41,338 but it's me, you know what I'm saying? 807 00:36:41,441 --> 00:36:43,545 Like, why? 808 00:36:43,648 --> 00:36:46,062 It's really not that big of a deal. 809 00:36:46,165 --> 00:36:48,510 When Em was blowing up, 810 00:36:48,614 --> 00:36:51,648 there was lots of kids with white T-shirts 811 00:36:51,752 --> 00:36:53,165 and bleach blonde hair. 812 00:36:53,269 --> 00:36:55,462 But again, this might be by Em's own doing. 813 00:36:55,545 --> 00:36:58,807 I mean, the videos, the imagery that he put out, 814 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:03,062 it's this million-white-boy army behind me, you know? 815 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,234 Like, I am you. 816 00:37:18,614 --> 00:37:22,979 I was at the MTV Awards when Marshall came out 817 00:37:23,062 --> 00:37:24,752 and that gang of fucking dudes 818 00:37:24,855 --> 00:37:26,441 followed him up on stage. 819 00:37:26,545 --> 00:37:28,407 Everyone around me kind of fucking locked in, 820 00:37:28,510 --> 00:37:30,200 like, what is... what's going on right now? 821 00:37:30,303 --> 00:37:31,151 Who the fuck is that guy? 822 00:37:31,234 --> 00:37:33,717 It was hands-down like, yeah. 823 00:37:33,821 --> 00:37:35,958 Like, that dude right there, he's... he's... 824 00:37:36,062 --> 00:37:38,717 he's fucking... he's cooler than me. 825 00:37:38,855 --> 00:37:40,579 When Eminem came on the scene 826 00:37:40,683 --> 00:37:43,096 and when they seen the bleach blonde hair, 827 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,717 it kind of infected the whole world. 828 00:37:45,821 --> 00:37:48,269 So many kids were dyeing their hair yellow, 829 00:37:48,372 --> 00:37:50,200 dressing in, you know, baggy clothes. 830 00:37:50,303 --> 00:37:51,579 And I saw it. 831 00:37:51,683 --> 00:37:53,717 So, you know, I had guy friends that were like, oh, 832 00:37:53,821 --> 00:37:55,096 I'm Slim Shady, you know? 833 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,520 And I'm just like, no, you're not. 834 00:37:59,062 --> 00:38:00,875 It was who they were now. 835 00:38:00,958 --> 00:38:02,600 It wasn't like, hey, I'm going to go down to Times Square. 836 00:38:02,683 --> 00:38:04,151 I'm gonna... you know, I'm gonna pay homage 837 00:38:04,234 --> 00:38:05,358 to Em and, you know, do my thing. 838 00:38:05,441 --> 00:38:07,200 It was like, I'm becoming him. 839 00:38:19,407 --> 00:38:21,993 Nine years old, you know? 840 00:38:22,096 --> 00:38:24,855 One day I wanted to... to make my hair blonde. 841 00:38:57,303 --> 00:38:59,993 You feel like a real Shady. 842 00:39:06,234 --> 00:39:08,441 Every people who look at you, they... 843 00:39:08,545 --> 00:39:13,683 they know what is about, you know, Shady, man. 844 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:19,924 Eminem is absolutely like an unwilling cult leader. 845 00:39:20,062 --> 00:39:24,062 He's someone who did not want to take up that position 846 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,510 but has been, to no fault of his own, 847 00:39:27,614 --> 00:39:29,200 kind of thrust into it. 848 00:39:29,303 --> 00:39:30,890 Eminem, ladies and gentlemen. 849 00:39:35,476 --> 00:39:36,545 - Big day. - Right. 850 00:39:36,648 --> 00:39:37,910 - New album is out. - A really big day. 851 00:39:37,993 --> 00:39:38,979 - Yeah. - Really big day. 852 00:39:39,062 --> 00:39:40,289 "Mathers LP" is out. 853 00:39:40,372 --> 00:39:41,683 Now, that's your real name. 854 00:39:41,786 --> 00:39:42,875 - Is, uh... does that mean... - It's my real name. 855 00:39:42,958 --> 00:39:44,048 That this is sort of more of, like, 856 00:39:44,131 --> 00:39:46,165 reflective of who you are? Or, uh... 857 00:39:46,269 --> 00:39:47,579 I think so. 858 00:39:47,683 --> 00:39:50,027 I think I got kind of personal on this album, 859 00:39:50,131 --> 00:39:51,614 and just basically I just wanted 860 00:39:51,717 --> 00:39:53,738 to let people know that this is... this is the real me. 861 00:39:53,821 --> 00:39:55,462 This is all jokes aside, you know what I'm saying? 862 00:39:55,545 --> 00:39:57,151 There's a lot of songs on the album that 863 00:39:57,234 --> 00:39:58,807 are like that, that are like, you know, 864 00:39:58,890 --> 00:40:00,117 more serious than the first album. 865 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,496 Right. 866 00:40:01,579 --> 00:40:02,476 Actually, we're listening to it right now, 867 00:40:02,579 --> 00:40:03,752 a track called "Stan." 868 00:40:03,855 --> 00:40:04,821 It's the third track on the album. 869 00:40:04,924 --> 00:40:05,772 What's... what's all this about? 870 00:40:05,855 --> 00:40:07,269 Explain this to me. 871 00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:09,510 Um, basically, it's just about crazy fan mail 872 00:40:09,648 --> 00:40:11,234 that I get from people. 873 00:40:11,338 --> 00:40:14,324 And it's about, like, a kid who is really sick, 874 00:40:14,407 --> 00:40:15,579 you know what I'm saying? 875 00:40:15,717 --> 00:40:17,979 And... and takes everything that I say literally. 876 00:40:18,062 --> 00:40:20,634 What inspired me to write "Stan" first 877 00:40:20,717 --> 00:40:23,117 was when I got the beat 878 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,993 and it had the Dido sample in it. 879 00:40:25,096 --> 00:40:27,165 "But your picture on my wall reminds me 880 00:40:27,269 --> 00:40:28,545 that it's not so bad." 881 00:40:28,683 --> 00:40:31,234 I felt like, that is... 882 00:40:31,338 --> 00:40:34,993 that line right there, that's LL Cool J to me. 883 00:40:35,096 --> 00:40:38,338 Like, LL Cool J was one of the rappers 884 00:40:38,441 --> 00:40:41,462 who helped get me through so much childhood shit. 885 00:40:41,545 --> 00:40:43,634 I kept thinking, like, oh, my God, 886 00:40:43,717 --> 00:40:46,096 am I LL Cool J to somebody else? 887 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,821 Instantly, I was like, yo, this has 888 00:40:47,924 --> 00:40:49,752 got to be about, like, an obsessed fan 889 00:40:49,890 --> 00:40:53,545 who's taking my shit too literal, and slow down. 890 00:40:53,648 --> 00:40:55,372 I'm not... I'm just Marshall. 891 00:40:56,924 --> 00:41:00,324 Like, I'm not your fucking savior. 892 00:41:21,165 --> 00:41:22,324 Let me in! 893 00:41:24,234 --> 00:41:25,703 What? 894 00:41:25,786 --> 00:41:27,614 Stanley, what are you doing to yourself? 895 00:41:27,717 --> 00:41:29,752 What, the hair? You don't like it? 896 00:41:29,855 --> 00:41:31,372 - Stanley! - You like it? 897 00:41:31,476 --> 00:41:32,890 Stanley! Don't... 898 00:41:32,993 --> 00:41:36,186 Don't call me that, OK? 899 00:41:36,269 --> 00:41:37,338 Don't call me that. 900 00:41:37,441 --> 00:41:38,841 Don't you think you're taking this too far? 901 00:41:38,924 --> 00:41:40,151 - Stanley. - Here. 902 00:41:40,234 --> 00:41:41,496 Stanley! 903 00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:42,669 I was listening to the lyrics. 904 00:41:42,752 --> 00:41:44,013 I was just like, this is amazing. 905 00:41:44,096 --> 00:41:45,772 I mean, I just think his lyrics on that song 906 00:41:45,855 --> 00:41:47,269 are absolutely brilliant, you know? 907 00:41:47,407 --> 00:41:50,186 He's, to me, the ultimate storyteller. 908 00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:59,683 I used to write him all the time. 909 00:42:59,821 --> 00:43:01,807 I was like, hi, I'm your biggest fan. 910 00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:03,924 I love you so much. 911 00:43:04,062 --> 00:43:06,407 When I was like, 12, yeah. 912 00:43:06,510 --> 00:43:07,958 Yeah, I wrote him a letter. 913 00:43:08,062 --> 00:43:11,096 And then later on, I would write and be like, 914 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,131 your music is saving my life. 915 00:43:13,234 --> 00:43:14,890 Thank you for everything. 916 00:43:14,993 --> 00:43:17,614 I actually took a few hours writing all the things 917 00:43:17,752 --> 00:43:22,234 I wanted to, but I thought it was, I don't know, 918 00:43:22,372 --> 00:43:24,186 like too much like "Stan." 919 00:43:24,269 --> 00:43:27,634 I wrote one email about 10 years ago. 920 00:43:27,717 --> 00:43:28,924 I haven't heard nothing back, 921 00:43:29,027 --> 00:43:30,358 but I'm still got my fingers crossed. 922 00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:32,372 It's only been 10 years. We good. 923 00:43:56,648 --> 00:44:00,993 Stan, he's a really, really, really hardcore fan of Eminem, 924 00:44:01,096 --> 00:44:02,600 and he believes he's in, like, 925 00:44:02,683 --> 00:44:06,131 a parasocial relationship with Eminem. 926 00:44:06,234 --> 00:44:09,338 Parasocial relationship is a one-way 927 00:44:09,441 --> 00:44:12,924 mediated relationship where it's like, there is Eminem. 928 00:44:13,027 --> 00:44:14,441 He's on stage performing. 929 00:44:14,545 --> 00:44:15,910 He's in music videos. 930 00:44:15,993 --> 00:44:19,393 And you start to feel like you know this person. 931 00:44:21,234 --> 00:44:23,738 Over time, parasocial relationships, 932 00:44:23,821 --> 00:44:27,600 they increase in psychological intensity. 933 00:44:27,683 --> 00:44:30,614 They can develop into what's called identification. 934 00:44:30,717 --> 00:44:33,082 You become so absorbed, 935 00:44:33,165 --> 00:44:36,131 you start to take on his attitudes 936 00:44:36,234 --> 00:44:37,683 and beliefs and behaviors. 937 00:44:44,303 --> 00:44:46,220 After that you get to what's called worship... 938 00:44:49,062 --> 00:44:50,958 Is when you treat the media persona 939 00:44:51,062 --> 00:44:52,786 like a godlike figure. 940 00:44:52,924 --> 00:44:54,565 It is the less healthy place 941 00:44:54,648 --> 00:44:56,220 you want to be on the spectrum. 942 00:45:02,683 --> 00:45:03,890 I mean, I could relate. 943 00:45:04,027 --> 00:45:05,407 I was like, yeah, that happens. 944 00:45:05,545 --> 00:45:07,683 Really awesome fans that can get, 945 00:45:07,786 --> 00:45:10,027 you know... you're like their best friend, 946 00:45:10,165 --> 00:45:11,407 and you don't even know it. 947 00:45:17,717 --> 00:45:19,890 The connotations from the song 948 00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:23,200 are somebody that is a crazy fan. 949 00:45:23,303 --> 00:45:25,855 It's probably how a lot of people see me, 950 00:45:25,958 --> 00:45:28,200 I would imagine. 951 00:45:40,096 --> 00:45:42,027 Reaching out, reaching out, and no answer. 952 00:45:42,131 --> 00:45:46,200 I could see how that could affect someone. 953 00:45:51,027 --> 00:45:52,151 That's extreme. 954 00:45:52,234 --> 00:45:54,979 But then at the same time, I was so someone 955 00:45:55,062 --> 00:45:56,738 that was like, well, why isn't one of my... 956 00:45:56,821 --> 00:45:58,462 why isn't it one of my letters he's reading? 957 00:46:01,131 --> 00:46:02,821 It was one of those moments where 958 00:46:02,924 --> 00:46:05,579 I had to look in the mirror and be like, wow, 959 00:46:05,683 --> 00:46:07,531 am I one of these crazy Stans? 960 00:46:24,855 --> 00:46:26,958 I was shocked. 961 00:46:27,062 --> 00:46:30,303 I mean, my first reaction was, did this actually happen? 962 00:46:30,407 --> 00:46:32,186 I don't think he's a real person, 963 00:46:32,269 --> 00:46:34,441 but it's definitely possible that there's 964 00:46:34,545 --> 00:46:36,186 somebody out there like that. 965 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,979 I think there are people out there that have 966 00:46:47,062 --> 00:46:51,910 that type of mental obsession over another person, 967 00:46:51,993 --> 00:46:55,013 and I believe that it does come from a real place. 968 00:46:55,096 --> 00:46:57,565 Whether it is exaggerated or not 969 00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:59,441 is all depending on the creator. 970 00:47:04,993 --> 00:47:08,855 But I believe it is coming from a real place. 971 00:47:08,993 --> 00:47:13,683 If it wasn't a real person who actually did do that... 972 00:47:17,958 --> 00:47:22,476 It's a message to all of his fame. 973 00:47:32,441 --> 00:47:33,683 Hi. 974 00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:47,752 But the word "Stan" changed with the time. 975 00:47:47,855 --> 00:47:52,821 Stan, in 2024, it's being crazy of something. 976 00:47:52,958 --> 00:47:55,683 Like, very, very crazy. 977 00:47:55,786 --> 00:47:57,821 Like, really, really crazy. 978 00:48:12,821 --> 00:48:14,821 I never killed my wife. 979 00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:18,890 I've never been crazy like him. 980 00:48:20,062 --> 00:48:23,407 I don't have a wife, by the way, but I'm just saying. 981 00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:32,324 Well, so... 982 00:48:32,407 --> 00:48:34,338 OK, so you guys think this about me. 983 00:48:34,441 --> 00:48:35,890 That's fine. 984 00:48:38,717 --> 00:48:40,338 Not because I don't want to, 985 00:48:40,441 --> 00:48:44,393 but because it was too big to me. 986 00:48:44,476 --> 00:48:47,958 I had and I still have a dream, 987 00:48:48,062 --> 00:48:52,131 is to travel and discover Detroit. 988 00:48:52,234 --> 00:48:58,234 Because I grew up with Eminem, so I wanted to... 989 00:48:58,338 --> 00:49:02,993 to know and to understand where Eminem came from. 990 00:49:03,096 --> 00:49:08,958 So my family thought that 991 00:49:09,062 --> 00:49:10,683 that was all bullshit, 992 00:49:10,786 --> 00:49:13,082 that I spent my money for nothing. 993 00:49:13,165 --> 00:49:15,510 But you know, when you're passionate about something, 994 00:49:15,614 --> 00:49:19,082 just do your dream. 995 00:49:19,165 --> 00:49:20,738 That's it. 996 00:50:14,614 --> 00:50:16,269 How do you know Eminem's not here? 997 00:50:53,993 --> 00:50:56,648 Because I was back in Paris 998 00:50:56,786 --> 00:50:58,821 after a beautiful week in Detroit. 999 00:50:58,958 --> 00:51:00,476 I cried. 1000 00:51:20,752 --> 00:51:24,096 If "Stan" sort of showed mainstream people 1001 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,462 who didn't understand how powerful a rap song could be, 1002 00:51:27,545 --> 00:51:29,027 if "Stan" did that to them... 1003 00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:37,186 Then "8 Mile" did that on a much more mainstream scale 1004 00:51:37,269 --> 00:51:39,545 across all swaths of culture. 1005 00:51:46,407 --> 00:51:48,683 He was a global phenomenon. 1006 00:51:48,786 --> 00:51:50,186 How are you feeling? 1007 00:51:50,269 --> 00:51:52,372 - I feel good. - You feel good? 1008 00:51:52,476 --> 00:51:53,372 Yeah. 1009 00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:58,013 All right, next up is my boy Bunny Rabbit. 1010 00:51:59,545 --> 00:52:01,738 He's a genius, man, a motherfucking genius. 1011 00:52:01,821 --> 00:52:02,703 DJ, kick it. 1012 00:52:05,648 --> 00:52:07,372 Choke, choke, choke, choke, choke, 1013 00:52:07,476 --> 00:52:09,821 choke, choke, choke, choke! 1014 00:52:09,924 --> 00:52:12,303 I believe what they did with "8 Mile" was amazing, 1015 00:52:12,441 --> 00:52:13,993 the way that they loosely based 1016 00:52:14,096 --> 00:52:17,220 a lot of things on his life. 1017 00:52:17,303 --> 00:52:19,303 And it wasn't full full-fledged, 1018 00:52:19,407 --> 00:52:21,200 this is what happened, but... 1019 00:52:21,303 --> 00:52:23,821 so it keeps me excited because my imagination 1020 00:52:23,924 --> 00:52:25,786 starts going like, all right, so what was real? 1021 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:26,786 What wasn't real? 1022 00:52:26,890 --> 00:52:28,565 Is that story true or not? 1023 00:52:28,648 --> 00:52:30,220 Did that really happen when they were in the parking lot 1024 00:52:30,303 --> 00:52:32,165 in the shelter? 1025 00:52:32,269 --> 00:52:34,958 Yo, that's like one of the best movies of all time, 1026 00:52:35,062 --> 00:52:37,565 if you're a rapper, 'cause it wasn't over the top. 1027 00:52:37,648 --> 00:52:39,303 It seemed like real-world shit, 1028 00:52:39,407 --> 00:52:41,131 going through it with his mom. 1029 00:52:41,234 --> 00:52:42,289 What are you doing with your life 1030 00:52:42,372 --> 00:52:44,338 that's so great, Rabbit? 1031 00:52:44,441 --> 00:52:45,841 Freestyling in the car with Proof. 1032 00:52:50,958 --> 00:52:52,048 Breaking up with his girlfriend, 1033 00:52:52,131 --> 00:52:53,255 all this extra shit. 1034 00:52:53,338 --> 00:52:54,220 Like, that was real-world shit. 1035 00:52:56,027 --> 00:52:59,510 Him showing a glimpse into what he went through 1036 00:52:59,648 --> 00:53:02,545 right before he got famous, it showed the world 1037 00:53:02,648 --> 00:53:06,752 that it's like, hey, I come from this background, 1038 00:53:06,855 --> 00:53:08,855 but it doesn't define me. 1039 00:53:10,441 --> 00:53:13,717 It is who I am, but I am so much more than that. 1040 00:53:13,821 --> 00:53:15,579 In my mind, we're connected. 1041 00:53:15,717 --> 00:53:17,462 In one way or another, in this universe, 1042 00:53:17,545 --> 00:53:18,600 there's a connection. 1043 00:53:18,683 --> 00:53:20,372 Yo, you... you're me. 1044 00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:21,669 You're a regular dude. 1045 00:53:21,752 --> 00:53:23,807 This is not lights, camera, action. 1046 00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:27,372 This is Marshall Mathers, and I followed the story. 1047 00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:29,324 And most parts, I lived the story. 1048 00:53:29,407 --> 00:53:32,062 It enhanced my fandom of him because 1049 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,993 I just saw how relatable he was. 1050 00:53:35,096 --> 00:53:37,614 And I didn't have, like, a male figure in my family 1051 00:53:37,717 --> 00:53:40,821 or, you know, in my household to look up to, 1052 00:53:40,924 --> 00:53:44,013 and I really looked up to him. 1053 00:53:44,096 --> 00:53:48,669 "8 Mile" did the most to explain Eminem to the world. 1054 00:53:48,752 --> 00:53:51,462 There were all these critics who were anti-Eminem. 1055 00:53:51,545 --> 00:53:53,289 Maureen Dowd, one of them at "The New York Times," 1056 00:53:53,372 --> 00:53:54,890 she had a bunch of columns, you know, 1057 00:53:55,027 --> 00:53:57,117 saying he was a misogynist and all the other things 1058 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,634 that he was controversial for. 1059 00:53:58,717 --> 00:54:01,510 And then after "8 Mile," she had a column 1060 00:54:01,614 --> 00:54:05,013 about having a crush on him and talking about him 1061 00:54:05,096 --> 00:54:06,476 with other soccer mommies 1062 00:54:06,614 --> 00:54:08,131 and listening to him at the gym. 1063 00:54:08,269 --> 00:54:10,579 It explains him to a wider audience, 1064 00:54:10,717 --> 00:54:13,096 contextualizes him, but it also 1065 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,062 is myth-making, for sure. 1066 00:54:15,165 --> 00:54:17,131 And I think that to the fans that 1067 00:54:17,234 --> 00:54:19,476 aren't able to separate the man from the myth, 1068 00:54:19,579 --> 00:54:21,441 this might as well be a documentary. 1069 00:54:21,545 --> 00:54:23,131 My first guest is a young man who is 1070 00:54:23,269 --> 00:54:25,476 on top of all of his games. 1071 00:54:25,614 --> 00:54:27,186 He's got the number-one song in the country, 1072 00:54:27,269 --> 00:54:28,752 the number-one album in the country, 1073 00:54:28,855 --> 00:54:31,372 and soon, the number-one movie in the country. 1074 00:54:31,476 --> 00:54:33,496 Give it up for Eminem. 1075 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,958 And then it's such chaos out there that unfortunately 1076 00:54:39,062 --> 00:54:41,062 we're going to have to shut the shades, 1077 00:54:41,165 --> 00:54:43,579 but it's a real sight to be seen. 1078 00:54:43,717 --> 00:54:45,579 In the history of MTV, I have never 1079 00:54:45,717 --> 00:54:47,303 seen anything quite like it. 1080 00:54:47,407 --> 00:54:48,669 I remember being in the theater 1081 00:54:48,752 --> 00:54:50,738 that first night watching that, going, "Fuck, man." 1082 00:54:50,821 --> 00:54:53,048 "Now, that's an opening weekend for a fucking guy 1083 00:54:53,131 --> 00:54:54,476 who's not a movie star." 1084 00:54:54,614 --> 00:54:58,186 He just became a movie star like that. 1085 00:54:58,269 --> 00:54:59,393 The movie is out. 1086 00:54:59,476 --> 00:55:01,131 - How you feeling? - Good. 1087 00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:02,234 Yeah? 1088 00:55:02,338 --> 00:55:04,117 You're a little overwhelmed? 1089 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,131 A lot overwhelmed, but, um... 1090 00:55:12,165 --> 00:55:13,510 Proud too. 1091 00:55:13,614 --> 00:55:14,944 - I'm proud too, you know? - Yeah. 1092 00:55:15,027 --> 00:55:16,289 I'm proud and I'm... I'm happy. 1093 00:55:16,372 --> 00:55:17,600 I'm excited. 1094 00:55:17,683 --> 00:55:19,048 You know, if it wasn't for these fans, 1095 00:55:19,131 --> 00:55:20,683 I wouldn't have got to this level 1096 00:55:20,821 --> 00:55:24,131 to be enabled to do my own movies and things like that, 1097 00:55:24,234 --> 00:55:27,200 and have this kind of power and this kind of control, 1098 00:55:27,303 --> 00:55:28,427 and I'm loving it. 1099 00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:30,131 Yo, let me ask you this... 1100 00:55:30,234 --> 00:55:32,821 I was just looking up some stuff about Eminem online, 1101 00:55:32,924 --> 00:55:35,683 and this girl was talking about how 1102 00:55:35,786 --> 00:55:37,772 she apparently was spending time 1103 00:55:37,855 --> 00:55:39,303 with him while he was on tour. 1104 00:55:39,407 --> 00:55:41,200 Like, some fan girl he picked up. 1105 00:55:41,303 --> 00:55:44,545 And I thought at first that that was real, so I'm like, 1106 00:55:44,648 --> 00:55:47,545 did somebody really put that... like, that hap... 1107 00:55:47,648 --> 00:55:49,634 somebody put that out? That's insane. 1108 00:55:49,717 --> 00:55:52,131 Then when I scrolled down to the end, 1109 00:55:52,234 --> 00:55:54,338 it said fan fiction. 1110 00:55:59,786 --> 00:56:02,496 The next thing I knew, that was all I was reading, 1111 00:56:02,579 --> 00:56:04,924 'cause it was kind of addictive. 1112 00:56:10,855 --> 00:56:13,669 And after, like, about three or four months of reading it, 1113 00:56:13,752 --> 00:56:17,579 I was like, why don't I write one myself? 1114 00:56:19,338 --> 00:56:22,890 I just imagined what his head space would be like. 1115 00:56:24,683 --> 00:56:26,634 It's very presumptuous of me to say, 1116 00:56:26,717 --> 00:56:28,324 oh, I'm writing this as Marshall, 1117 00:56:28,407 --> 00:56:30,324 even though it literally says Marshall's point of view 1118 00:56:30,407 --> 00:56:31,683 when I write it. 1119 00:56:31,786 --> 00:56:33,372 But you know, it's 'cause it's fiction. 1120 00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:35,786 It's OK. 1121 00:56:35,924 --> 00:56:38,151 Do you feel like you have an understanding 1122 00:56:38,234 --> 00:56:40,703 of who Marshall actually is? 1123 00:56:40,786 --> 00:56:42,634 It's kind of hard to tell with Eminem 1124 00:56:42,717 --> 00:56:43,924 because he's like... 1125 00:56:44,027 --> 00:56:46,979 as much as he puts personal shit in his songs, 1126 00:56:47,062 --> 00:56:49,496 he probably shows us only what he wants us to see. 1127 00:56:55,062 --> 00:56:56,289 What's up, ladies? 1128 00:56:58,993 --> 00:57:00,958 I was sharing a lot... 1129 00:57:01,062 --> 00:57:02,269 Aw. 1130 00:57:02,372 --> 00:57:04,441 And made it like a fucking open book. 1131 00:57:04,545 --> 00:57:06,096 And then sometimes you want to close 1132 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,303 that book back a little bit because 1133 00:57:08,407 --> 00:57:10,510 did you share too much? 1134 00:57:10,648 --> 00:57:11,772 What's up? I'm Marshall, and I'm gonna to punch you 1135 00:57:11,855 --> 00:57:13,131 in the fucking throat. 1136 00:57:13,234 --> 00:57:15,303 Do you have anything left to keep to yourself? 1137 00:57:15,407 --> 00:57:16,738 I can't fucking work like this. 1138 00:57:16,821 --> 00:57:18,082 You're stressing me out. 1139 00:57:19,786 --> 00:57:21,476 "-" Before I was famous, everything 1140 00:57:21,579 --> 00:57:23,648 "was moving in slow motion. 1141 00:57:23,786 --> 00:57:26,048 "Now it seems like somebody has pressed 1142 00:57:26,131 --> 00:57:27,717 "the fucking fast forward button, 1143 00:57:27,821 --> 00:57:29,958 "and my life just seems to be rushing by. 1144 00:57:30,096 --> 00:57:33,027 It sometimes feels like a strange movie." 1145 00:57:33,131 --> 00:57:34,683 I couldn't imagine how jarring it is 1146 00:57:34,786 --> 00:57:39,738 to go from being where he started out in 8 Mile 1147 00:57:39,821 --> 00:57:43,772 to the level of fame and success and wealth 1148 00:57:43,855 --> 00:57:48,165 and confinement that comes along with celebrity. 1149 00:57:48,269 --> 00:57:49,269 Unreal. 1150 00:57:49,372 --> 00:57:50,786 Hey, Em. 1151 00:57:50,924 --> 00:57:52,048 Don't... don't come over here, man. 1152 00:57:52,131 --> 00:57:52,993 Hey, Em. 1153 00:57:53,131 --> 00:57:54,027 All right? 1154 00:57:54,131 --> 00:57:55,648 Hey, have a good concert. 1155 00:57:55,752 --> 00:57:58,303 The way that he talks about fame in his music, 1156 00:57:58,407 --> 00:58:00,303 it's like he wishes that he could just 1157 00:58:00,407 --> 00:58:03,821 go and be a normal person and go to the store 1158 00:58:03,924 --> 00:58:05,289 and things like that. 1159 00:58:05,372 --> 00:58:06,841 And I think it feels like an invasion. 1160 00:58:06,924 --> 00:58:08,338 Yo, what's up, Eminem? 1161 00:58:08,441 --> 00:58:09,510 So are you gonna... 1162 00:58:09,614 --> 00:58:10,855 Good to see you, man. 1163 00:58:10,958 --> 00:58:13,634 Every single day I'm on the Eminem subreddit. 1164 00:58:13,717 --> 00:58:16,027 There is 800,000 Stans. 1165 00:58:16,131 --> 00:58:18,683 We have guys from India and Pakistan, 1166 00:58:18,786 --> 00:58:22,027 and like, just all... all over the world. 1167 00:58:22,165 --> 00:58:24,890 We theorize, and we go back and forth, and we try 1168 00:58:24,993 --> 00:58:27,855 and, uh, figure out what goes on in his daily life. 1169 00:58:27,993 --> 00:58:29,648 Would be really cool to know, like, 1170 00:58:29,752 --> 00:58:32,117 does he go to the gym in the morning? 1171 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,200 Or does he play basketball, 1172 00:58:34,338 --> 00:58:36,096 or is he in the studio all day? 1173 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,890 It feels incredibly euphoric to me 1174 00:58:38,993 --> 00:58:42,151 because every post... every post you go through 1175 00:58:42,234 --> 00:58:44,669 and every little thread of information you get, 1176 00:58:44,752 --> 00:58:47,855 it gives you one step closer to getting closer to the man. 1177 00:58:49,303 --> 00:58:50,165 Em! 1178 00:58:50,269 --> 00:58:51,496 Em! 1179 00:58:51,579 --> 00:58:53,117 You can look at your smartphone now 1180 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,289 and look at social media and feel like 1181 00:58:54,372 --> 00:58:56,717 you have a direct line to these people now. 1182 00:58:56,855 --> 00:58:59,496 There's definitely a very thin line 1183 00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:01,186 when you go from that follow button, 1184 00:59:01,269 --> 00:59:03,358 and then all of a sudden, you're following someone. 1185 00:59:03,441 --> 00:59:06,703 Conversely, I'm following them. 1186 00:59:06,786 --> 00:59:08,924 And it's like, I need to know every new thing 1187 00:59:09,027 --> 00:59:12,062 about this person, and I think that takes some people 1188 00:59:12,165 --> 00:59:14,579 down some dark roads. 1189 00:59:14,683 --> 00:59:17,269 I'm sure it feels like a prison, 1190 00:59:17,407 --> 00:59:20,924 where you can't go anywhere without being recognized. 1191 00:59:36,096 --> 00:59:40,407 There's definitely a shift of him becoming 1192 00:59:40,510 --> 00:59:42,614 a little bit more withdrawn 1193 00:59:42,752 --> 00:59:44,786 from all of the fame. 1194 01:00:21,131 --> 01:00:23,441 I live in that same area where I do hear from people, 1195 01:00:23,545 --> 01:00:24,924 like, oh, my God, Eminem moved here 1196 01:00:25,027 --> 01:00:26,013 and his address is this, 1197 01:00:26,096 --> 01:00:27,579 and oh, I was trick-or-treating, 1198 01:00:27,683 --> 01:00:29,096 and I went to his house. 1199 01:00:29,234 --> 01:00:33,648 And it's like he can't even live normally. 1200 01:00:35,096 --> 01:00:37,875 I've always been like, oh, I want to meet him so bad. 1201 01:00:37,958 --> 01:00:39,427 It's almost like a double-edged sword, 1202 01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:41,462 because what would I do, run up to him and be like, 1203 01:00:41,545 --> 01:00:42,821 oh, my God, Eminem? 1204 01:00:42,924 --> 01:00:45,303 And that's, like, not what he wants. 1205 01:00:45,407 --> 01:00:47,151 But at the same time, it's, like, all I want. 1206 01:00:50,131 --> 01:00:51,924 I remember one time me and Hailie 1207 01:00:52,027 --> 01:00:53,579 went to the mall in LA. 1208 01:00:53,683 --> 01:00:56,924 It was the last time I went to the mall as me, right? 1209 01:00:57,027 --> 01:01:00,220 Like, not fucking disguised. 1210 01:01:00,303 --> 01:01:04,082 And, um, every store we went in, we come out, 1211 01:01:04,165 --> 01:01:05,683 and there's another... a bigger crowd 1212 01:01:05,821 --> 01:01:08,683 and a bigger crowd and a bigger crowd. 1213 01:01:08,821 --> 01:01:11,082 And it got to the point where I was like... 1214 01:01:11,165 --> 01:01:13,131 I picked her up, and I'm like, come on, 1215 01:01:13,234 --> 01:01:14,855 kiddo, time to go, right? 1216 01:01:14,993 --> 01:01:18,303 And I'm walking, and as I'm walking faster 1217 01:01:18,407 --> 01:01:19,738 and faster and faster, they're walking 1218 01:01:19,821 --> 01:01:20,993 faster and faster and faster. 1219 01:01:21,131 --> 01:01:22,634 And I literally felt like I was being chased 1220 01:01:22,717 --> 01:01:24,786 out the fucking mall. 1221 01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:29,772 And that was one of those moments 1222 01:01:29,855 --> 01:01:34,027 where I realized, like, my life really has changed. 1223 01:01:34,165 --> 01:01:37,993 Like, I can't... I can't do this anymore, right? 1224 01:01:38,096 --> 01:01:40,407 'Cause I got to protect my baby. 1225 01:01:40,510 --> 01:01:43,683 So that was a scary... that was a scary moment, 1226 01:01:43,821 --> 01:01:44,910 and scary for her too. 1227 01:01:44,993 --> 01:01:46,703 I asked her. She... she doesn't remember it. 1228 01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:47,875 She was too little to remember it. 1229 01:01:47,958 --> 01:01:51,510 But I remember it, and it was fucking crazy. 1230 01:02:01,234 --> 01:02:04,372 But people do not realize how dangerous... 1231 01:02:07,752 --> 01:02:11,703 Some people who are attracted to Eminem 1232 01:02:11,786 --> 01:02:14,407 might not be the best-intentioned people 1233 01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:18,027 and who could be aggressive or violent. 1234 01:02:18,131 --> 01:02:20,683 We've seen it with other artists, who a super-fan 1235 01:02:20,786 --> 01:02:22,717 has, you know, come after them. 1236 01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:33,890 I definitely feared for his safety. 1237 01:02:33,993 --> 01:02:35,186 Sometimes you get obsessive fans 1238 01:02:35,269 --> 01:02:37,234 that are mentally unstable. 1239 01:02:40,924 --> 01:02:42,269 I'm protective of Eminem. 1240 01:02:42,372 --> 01:02:44,993 Oh, my God, if anything happened to Em... oh, my God, 1241 01:02:45,096 --> 01:02:46,269 I'd come swinging. 1242 01:02:49,441 --> 01:02:52,958 You just never know, within this profession that we have, 1243 01:02:53,096 --> 01:02:55,165 if there's somebody out there lurking 1244 01:02:55,269 --> 01:02:58,013 that's creating this fantasy in their own head 1245 01:02:58,096 --> 01:03:01,738 because you're not responding to them. 1246 01:03:01,821 --> 01:03:04,683 That's the scariest shit ever. 1247 01:03:04,786 --> 01:03:06,427 Following and tracking him 1248 01:03:06,510 --> 01:03:08,131 like he's not a regular person, 1249 01:03:08,234 --> 01:03:09,338 you're not a fan at all. 1250 01:03:16,614 --> 01:03:18,683 11 years of policing, I've seen all kinds 1251 01:03:18,821 --> 01:03:19,993 of dark, twisty shit. 1252 01:03:20,131 --> 01:03:21,910 When you get that famous, you can't talk to everybody. 1253 01:03:21,993 --> 01:03:23,944 You can't say hi to everybody. You can't meet everybody. 1254 01:03:24,027 --> 01:03:27,772 And so I don't think that this kid Stan got that. 1255 01:03:27,855 --> 01:03:30,462 If the Stan character existed today, 1256 01:03:30,545 --> 01:03:31,993 he would certainly follow Eminem 1257 01:03:32,096 --> 01:03:35,200 on every platform, maybe run a fan page, 1258 01:03:35,303 --> 01:03:37,200 definitely on Eminem Reddit. 1259 01:03:37,338 --> 01:03:40,200 Would be writing to him on each of his 1260 01:03:40,303 --> 01:03:44,165 social media accounts every day. 1261 01:03:44,269 --> 01:03:46,634 With the song "Stan," it's almost like 1262 01:03:46,717 --> 01:03:50,117 a PSA to his fans, like, please don't do this. 1263 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,269 This is not what I want. 1264 01:04:00,958 --> 01:04:03,890 When I saw him in 2005's Anger Management tour, 1265 01:04:03,993 --> 01:04:05,027 I was in college. 1266 01:04:05,131 --> 01:04:07,979 Came there to the show with my friend. 1267 01:04:09,890 --> 01:04:14,890 This is when he was touring nationwide with D12... 1268 01:04:14,993 --> 01:04:16,807 Yeah, man, we out here having a good time 1269 01:04:16,890 --> 01:04:18,717 on this tour, so far, so good. 1270 01:04:18,821 --> 01:04:20,096 And with 50 Cent... 1271 01:04:20,234 --> 01:04:21,407 - 50... - No, don't tell me. 1272 01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:22,462 I know I did good. 1273 01:04:24,062 --> 01:04:26,855 And with Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz. 1274 01:04:26,958 --> 01:04:28,441 We out, bitch! 1275 01:04:28,545 --> 01:04:31,890 Which to this day has been one of the best 1276 01:04:31,993 --> 01:04:34,096 tours that I've ever seen. 1277 01:04:34,234 --> 01:04:36,614 The atmosphere of touring and the partying 1278 01:04:36,717 --> 01:04:39,027 and getting up in the morning and catching the flights 1279 01:04:39,131 --> 01:04:40,875 and the plane and the jet lag 1280 01:04:40,958 --> 01:04:43,338 and riding the bus and not being able to sleep, 1281 01:04:43,441 --> 01:04:44,441 it's hard. 1282 01:04:44,545 --> 01:04:46,669 It ends up running you down. 1283 01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:48,165 We're done in Detroit. 1284 01:04:48,269 --> 01:04:49,372 Europe next. 1285 01:04:49,476 --> 01:04:50,717 Wow. 1286 01:04:50,821 --> 01:04:53,531 It's almost like I have to get off the road 1287 01:04:53,614 --> 01:04:57,372 every now and then and take a break, or I'll go crazy. 1288 01:05:03,062 --> 01:05:05,738 I was supposed to be going to see him in Manchester, 1289 01:05:05,821 --> 01:05:07,738 and he canceled because he was... 1290 01:05:07,821 --> 01:05:10,958 well, exhaustion, he... he told everyone at the time. 1291 01:05:11,062 --> 01:05:14,476 It was a bit of a shock. 1292 01:05:14,614 --> 01:05:16,165 I actually had tickets for him, 1293 01:05:16,269 --> 01:05:18,393 whenever the Anger Management tour was that he canceled. 1294 01:05:18,476 --> 01:05:19,738 I had tickets to that show. 1295 01:05:19,821 --> 01:05:21,510 I remember at the time being obviously 1296 01:05:21,648 --> 01:05:23,786 supremely disappointed, but it wasn't a secret, 1297 01:05:23,890 --> 01:05:27,614 the struggles that he was going through. 1298 01:05:27,752 --> 01:05:29,027 That's why I'm pill-adverse, 1299 01:05:29,131 --> 01:05:30,683 knowing how it got to him. 1300 01:05:30,786 --> 01:05:33,131 Even... I think I had, like, my wisdom teeth out 1301 01:05:33,234 --> 01:05:35,993 and whatnot, and I wouldn't even take the hydrocodones 1302 01:05:36,131 --> 01:05:38,255 because I'm like, I can't take too many because this is... 1303 01:05:38,338 --> 01:05:39,993 this is the stuff that'll get you. 1304 01:05:42,924 --> 01:05:44,545 I was on vacation for a few days, 1305 01:05:44,648 --> 01:05:49,372 and I came back, and my mom came to pick me... 1306 01:05:49,476 --> 01:05:51,476 pick me up at the airport. 1307 01:05:51,579 --> 01:05:54,393 And she looked at me like she never looked at me like this 1308 01:05:54,476 --> 01:05:59,510 before, and she said, "Zolt, someone from 1309 01:05:59,614 --> 01:06:01,841 Eminem friends passed away." 1310 01:06:01,924 --> 01:06:04,200 Rapper Deshaun Holton, better known as Proof, 1311 01:06:04,338 --> 01:06:06,200 one of the founders of the rap group D12 1312 01:06:06,338 --> 01:06:09,062 and a close friend of sometime D12 member Eminem, 1313 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,462 was shot and killed at a Detroit nightclub. 1314 01:06:11,545 --> 01:06:13,200 He was 32 years old. 1315 01:06:13,338 --> 01:06:14,875 Proof often shared the stage with Eminem. 1316 01:06:14,958 --> 01:06:16,518 He was even the best man at Em's wedding 1317 01:06:16,614 --> 01:06:19,234 this past January, but he was also... 1318 01:06:19,372 --> 01:06:22,717 I want you to listen to him, give him a chance. 1319 01:06:22,855 --> 01:06:26,683 Put your hands together for the funky honky Eminem. 1320 01:06:31,096 --> 01:06:32,634 My name is Slim Shady. 1321 01:06:32,717 --> 01:06:34,752 Yo, this is MC Proof, and this is my DJ... 1322 01:06:34,855 --> 01:06:35,821 I cry. 1323 01:06:35,924 --> 01:06:36,993 I immediately cry. 1324 01:06:37,096 --> 01:06:39,600 I said to my mom, "Sorry, I can't go to the school. 1325 01:06:39,683 --> 01:06:41,324 It's too much for me, too much." 1326 01:06:41,407 --> 01:06:43,648 It took three months, and even after three months, 1327 01:06:43,752 --> 01:06:46,324 when I came back to the... to the school... 1328 01:06:46,407 --> 01:06:49,027 Man. 1329 01:06:49,131 --> 01:06:52,545 Even thinking about it really want to make me cry about it. 1330 01:06:54,234 --> 01:06:55,979 When he lost Proof, I cried with him 1331 01:06:56,062 --> 01:06:58,944 'cause I knew exactly what he felt. 1332 01:06:59,027 --> 01:07:00,200 I lost my cousin, 1333 01:07:00,303 --> 01:07:03,441 and I lost him in a bad, bad way. 1334 01:07:03,545 --> 01:07:05,407 The one person that had my back since 1335 01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:08,186 I was a kid, that always was with me, 1336 01:07:08,269 --> 01:07:11,303 is not here to help me no more. 1337 01:07:11,441 --> 01:07:12,924 All I was doing was just popping pills 1338 01:07:13,062 --> 01:07:14,579 and just laying in bed all day. 1339 01:07:14,683 --> 01:07:16,579 If he died, I should die. 1340 01:07:16,717 --> 01:07:18,648 That's how I felt. 1341 01:07:25,096 --> 01:07:27,372 I'm sorry. Give me a second. 1342 01:07:33,579 --> 01:07:37,131 You know, just, I've lost a lot of people. 1343 01:07:37,234 --> 01:07:40,186 Um, I've lost my sister. I lost my dad. 1344 01:07:40,269 --> 01:07:41,358 I lost my nephew. 1345 01:07:41,441 --> 01:07:43,531 So all, like, my close family's, you know, 1346 01:07:43,614 --> 01:07:44,875 halfway gone. 1347 01:07:44,958 --> 01:07:46,958 Um, but my nephew was, like, the worst, 1348 01:07:47,096 --> 01:07:49,393 'cause he was, like, my best friend. 1349 01:07:49,476 --> 01:07:51,958 In 2016, like January, he like, 1350 01:07:52,062 --> 01:07:54,131 complained about having a sore neck, 1351 01:07:54,269 --> 01:07:55,841 I think it was, and doctors were like, 1352 01:07:55,924 --> 01:07:57,841 oh, sinus infection, this, this, this. 1353 01:07:57,924 --> 01:07:59,117 My sister was taking him every... 1354 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,462 like, all the time, like... and he was someone 1355 01:08:00,545 --> 01:08:01,717 that never complained. 1356 01:08:01,821 --> 01:08:03,786 Um, he would never tell you when he was sick, 1357 01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:05,200 so that was already odd. 1358 01:08:05,338 --> 01:08:08,372 So finally some doctor was like, yeah, 1359 01:08:08,510 --> 01:08:10,338 no, this is stage IV lymphoma. 1360 01:08:10,441 --> 01:08:11,565 You know, when my nephew passed, 1361 01:08:11,648 --> 01:08:15,082 I was like, fuck this, and I tried to overdose, 1362 01:08:15,165 --> 01:08:17,393 um, after his funeral was over. 1363 01:08:21,096 --> 01:08:24,338 I woke up in the hospital with my heart doctor 1364 01:08:24,441 --> 01:08:26,821 at the bottom of my bed like a dad, 1365 01:08:26,958 --> 01:08:30,082 just telling me never to do that shit again, 1366 01:08:30,165 --> 01:08:33,944 and I listen to Eminem because him losing Proof, 1367 01:08:34,027 --> 01:08:36,462 I feel like I really can resonate with that 1368 01:08:36,545 --> 01:08:39,579 because that was literally my other half. 1369 01:08:41,821 --> 01:08:43,683 Why is it so rare that the public 1370 01:08:43,786 --> 01:08:45,082 gets to see Eminem nowadays? What's... 1371 01:08:45,165 --> 01:08:46,614 Yeah, why is it like that? 1372 01:08:50,062 --> 01:08:52,165 I actually need him to make my music. 1373 01:08:52,269 --> 01:08:53,786 So he be busy. 1374 01:08:55,303 --> 01:08:59,510 And he had the white shirt with big Proof on the shirt. 1375 01:09:13,786 --> 01:09:14,958 It was... I didn't... 1376 01:09:15,062 --> 01:09:19,407 I didn't want to see Marshall like this, so... 1377 01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:22,062 Guys, you gotta tell me, what's the latest 1378 01:09:22,165 --> 01:09:23,545 with the new D12 album? 1379 01:09:23,648 --> 01:09:25,151 It's all in the memory of Proof, 1380 01:09:25,234 --> 01:09:27,074 - everything that he was. - Shout out to Proof. 1381 01:09:27,165 --> 01:09:29,186 - You know what I mean? - Yeah. 1382 01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:31,372 Rest... rest in peace, big baby. 1383 01:09:31,476 --> 01:09:33,096 It was one of the toughest times, 1384 01:09:33,234 --> 01:09:36,358 if not the toughest time in his life, that we know of. 1385 01:09:36,441 --> 01:09:39,703 And it was kind of, I think, a when it rains, it pours. 1386 01:09:39,786 --> 01:09:43,441 My dad, he passed unexpectedly when I was entering 1387 01:09:43,545 --> 01:09:45,703 my freshman year of college. 1388 01:09:45,786 --> 01:09:51,358 You know, listening to him talking about his grief 1389 01:09:51,441 --> 01:09:55,324 and the lows that he went through... 1390 01:09:55,407 --> 01:09:57,786 I mean, I connect to that. 1391 01:10:34,372 --> 01:10:36,186 I was really worried for Marshall 1392 01:10:36,269 --> 01:10:39,027 during those years, for his well-being, 1393 01:10:39,131 --> 01:10:41,545 spiritually, physically. 1394 01:10:41,648 --> 01:10:45,062 Didn't know how it was going to alter the future. 1395 01:10:45,165 --> 01:10:47,200 I'd got into this vicious cycle of, 1396 01:10:47,303 --> 01:10:50,186 I'm depressed so I need more pills. 1397 01:10:50,269 --> 01:10:52,324 And then your tolerance gets so high 1398 01:10:52,407 --> 01:10:54,841 that you end up overdosing. 1399 01:10:54,924 --> 01:10:57,545 I woke up in the hospital, and I didn't 1400 01:10:57,648 --> 01:10:58,958 know what the fuck happened. 1401 01:10:59,062 --> 01:11:00,821 Like, it... it seemed like I... 1402 01:11:00,924 --> 01:11:02,255 I fell asleep, and I woke up, 1403 01:11:02,338 --> 01:11:03,703 and I woke up with tubes in me and shit. 1404 01:11:03,786 --> 01:11:04,958 I wanted to get up. 1405 01:11:05,062 --> 01:11:06,372 I couldn't move. 1406 01:11:08,752 --> 01:11:12,958 After the overdose, I came home going, 1407 01:11:13,062 --> 01:11:18,131 yo, bro, I need something, and I fucking went to town. 1408 01:11:18,269 --> 01:11:21,220 So I was really, like, inside knowing, like, 1409 01:11:21,303 --> 01:11:22,821 I need to fucking... 1410 01:11:22,958 --> 01:11:26,096 I'm going to die if I don't... if I don't do something. 1411 01:11:28,338 --> 01:11:31,476 I had this video that they brought me 1412 01:11:31,579 --> 01:11:34,875 because I missed Hailie's first guitar recital. 1413 01:11:34,958 --> 01:11:37,269 The amount of guilt that I felt, 1414 01:11:37,372 --> 01:11:40,303 I cried when I saw it 'cause I was like, 1415 01:11:40,407 --> 01:11:43,220 oh, my God, I missed that. 1416 01:11:43,303 --> 01:11:46,427 And I kept saying to myself, 1417 01:11:46,510 --> 01:11:48,220 "Do you want to fucking miss this again? 1418 01:11:48,303 --> 01:11:50,855 Do you want to miss everything?" 1419 01:11:53,890 --> 01:11:55,151 If you can't do it for yourself, 1420 01:11:55,234 --> 01:11:58,269 you fucking pussy, at least do it for them. 1421 01:12:00,476 --> 01:12:04,648 I realized I'm never doing this again. 1422 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,338 When I heard the news that he, like, overdosed, 1423 01:12:10,441 --> 01:12:13,600 I was like, fuck. Like, damn. 1424 01:12:13,683 --> 01:12:15,855 Like, he could have actually... 1425 01:12:15,958 --> 01:12:18,324 he could have really died. 1426 01:12:18,407 --> 01:12:20,027 For me with celebrities, it almost feels 1427 01:12:20,131 --> 01:12:21,496 like they are untouchable. 1428 01:12:21,579 --> 01:12:22,979 So whenever you hear that a celebrity 1429 01:12:23,062 --> 01:12:24,372 died or almost died, 1430 01:12:24,476 --> 01:12:26,717 it's always like... it hits you differently 1431 01:12:26,855 --> 01:12:30,338 from, like, uh, like a normal person. 1432 01:12:30,441 --> 01:12:31,979 I was just in shock. 1433 01:12:32,062 --> 01:12:34,200 So I made a point, I'm playing Eminem 1434 01:12:34,303 --> 01:12:35,545 every single day 1435 01:12:35,648 --> 01:12:37,289 until he gets out and until he gets better, 1436 01:12:37,372 --> 01:12:39,407 until... until he comes back to his rap. 1437 01:12:39,545 --> 01:12:41,634 And that's what I did, every single song 1438 01:12:41,717 --> 01:12:44,772 over and over on replay. 1439 01:12:44,855 --> 01:12:46,338 While I was sitting in detox, 1440 01:12:46,441 --> 01:12:47,545 I didn't know exactly 1441 01:12:47,648 --> 01:12:50,496 what I was going to do with my career. 1442 01:12:50,579 --> 01:12:51,979 At that time, I was just thinking, 1443 01:12:52,062 --> 01:12:52,993 like, this can't be it. 1444 01:12:53,096 --> 01:12:54,186 Like, in the back of my mind, of course, 1445 01:12:54,269 --> 01:12:55,496 I'm scared that it is. 1446 01:12:55,579 --> 01:12:57,890 No new music, no new tours, no new interviews, 1447 01:12:58,027 --> 01:12:59,807 no new jokes, whatever the case is. 1448 01:12:59,890 --> 01:13:01,531 It's just, he'd be gone. 1449 01:13:01,614 --> 01:13:05,924 To me, it was like, Eminem, I know it's hard, 1450 01:13:06,027 --> 01:13:10,441 but one day you are coming back. 1451 01:13:10,545 --> 01:13:12,579 I had to relearn how to walk, talk, 1452 01:13:12,683 --> 01:13:14,013 and, for the most part, 1453 01:13:14,096 --> 01:13:16,441 had to relearn how to rap again. 1454 01:13:16,545 --> 01:13:19,531 My writing had gotten terrible. 1455 01:13:19,614 --> 01:13:22,303 What did it feel like when it started to work again? 1456 01:13:22,407 --> 01:13:24,993 Um, when I started to get it back, 1457 01:13:25,096 --> 01:13:28,648 it was exciting because I felt it. 1458 01:13:28,752 --> 01:13:32,048 It would be in conversations, just having conversations 1459 01:13:32,131 --> 01:13:34,013 with people or the TV. 1460 01:13:34,096 --> 01:13:36,614 Like, every... every phrase that someone said on TV, 1461 01:13:36,752 --> 01:13:39,476 oh, you said the word "the." 1462 01:13:39,579 --> 01:13:41,545 Duh, uh. 1463 01:13:41,648 --> 01:13:43,407 It was hitting me really fast, 1464 01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:45,958 and I was writing songs really quickly. 1465 01:13:46,096 --> 01:13:47,441 What... what's going on? 1466 01:13:48,855 --> 01:13:50,358 What are you guys doing? 1467 01:13:50,441 --> 01:13:52,634 Do you mind if I come out and maybe join you or something? 1468 01:13:52,717 --> 01:13:54,186 You wanna come out? Come on, baby. 1469 01:13:54,269 --> 01:13:56,614 - Eminem! - Get over here. 1470 01:13:56,717 --> 01:13:58,614 When he first announced "Relapse," 1471 01:13:58,752 --> 01:14:00,269 it felt like Christmas to me. 1472 01:14:00,372 --> 01:14:02,890 Because when an album comes out, 1473 01:14:02,993 --> 01:14:06,117 I listen to an album front to back, 1474 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,545 and then back to front, 1475 01:14:07,683 --> 01:14:12,131 and then to the end again, for months at a time. 1476 01:14:12,234 --> 01:14:15,910 So listening to "Relapse" was amazing to me, 1477 01:14:15,993 --> 01:14:17,303 just to hear that he's back. 1478 01:14:17,407 --> 01:14:20,338 I was just so, so ecstatic, so proud, and so happy 1479 01:14:20,441 --> 01:14:21,561 that I could hear him again. 1480 01:14:21,648 --> 01:14:23,117 Number one, you look good. 1481 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,338 Number two, you're number one right now, 1482 01:14:25,476 --> 01:14:26,600 as far as your album's concerned, 1483 01:14:26,683 --> 01:14:27,875 and number three, you're number one 1484 01:14:27,958 --> 01:14:29,200 in the UK as well. 1485 01:14:29,338 --> 01:14:30,648 So congratulations. 1486 01:14:30,752 --> 01:14:32,648 - How does it feel? - Yeah, thank you. 1487 01:14:32,752 --> 01:14:33,910 It feels great. I mean, I'm just, 1488 01:14:33,993 --> 01:14:35,338 you know, I'm glad to be back. 1489 01:14:36,648 --> 01:14:38,441 Guess who? 1490 01:14:38,545 --> 01:14:39,772 You miss me? 1491 01:14:39,855 --> 01:14:41,993 Jessica Simpson, sing the chorus. 1492 01:14:52,303 --> 01:14:53,234 You know what I love about your work, 1493 01:14:53,338 --> 01:14:54,462 and I'm sure many people do, 1494 01:14:54,545 --> 01:14:56,338 is there's a sense of humor. It's funny. 1495 01:14:56,441 --> 01:14:58,855 Uh, you diss some people in the new single. 1496 01:14:58,958 --> 01:15:00,462 - Some. - Yeah. 1497 01:15:05,476 --> 01:15:08,890 As wickedly shrewd and sharp as he is lyrically 1498 01:15:08,993 --> 01:15:11,013 with these scathing disses of other people, 1499 01:15:11,096 --> 01:15:13,924 he was equally on his own case, 1500 01:15:14,027 --> 01:15:16,786 equally making fun of himself. 1501 01:15:16,890 --> 01:15:19,234 And all of that makes you endearing to people. 1502 01:15:22,890 --> 01:15:24,531 His disses were always funny, 1503 01:15:24,614 --> 01:15:26,407 and he did something with his voice. 1504 01:15:26,510 --> 01:15:27,565 Different character, right? 1505 01:15:27,648 --> 01:15:29,407 Flowing pretty damn cool, though. 1506 01:15:29,545 --> 01:15:33,027 The whole, like, weird accent thing that he did on it 1507 01:15:33,131 --> 01:15:34,324 kind of threw me off. 1508 01:15:34,407 --> 01:15:36,048 Then when I listened to it more, 1509 01:15:36,131 --> 01:15:39,096 I'm like, damn, I was missing out on, like, some good shit. 1510 01:15:45,993 --> 01:15:49,441 The response that I got from "Relapse" was lukewarm. 1511 01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:52,841 That hurt a little bit, but it also turned the lights on. 1512 01:15:52,924 --> 01:15:55,924 Like, you got to do something different. 1513 01:15:56,062 --> 01:15:58,717 Why don't you try embracing sobriety? 1514 01:16:03,717 --> 01:16:08,993 I realized, like, I'm not embarrassed anymore about it. 1515 01:16:09,096 --> 01:16:12,372 And I started treating sobriety like a superpower, 1516 01:16:12,476 --> 01:16:16,131 and I took pride in the fact that I was able to quit. 1517 01:16:18,407 --> 01:16:20,738 "Recovery" was a breath of fresh air for him. 1518 01:16:20,821 --> 01:16:22,476 I think it really sounded like someone 1519 01:16:22,614 --> 01:16:29,027 who was reclaiming his own life and his own narrative. 1520 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,510 Getting sober and going through what he went through 1521 01:16:33,614 --> 01:16:36,462 made him a totally different person and artist. 1522 01:16:36,545 --> 01:16:39,082 He just used different flows and different cadences 1523 01:16:39,165 --> 01:16:40,944 and ways of rapping on tunes. 1524 01:16:41,027 --> 01:16:44,683 So for me as a fan, it was like becoming 1525 01:16:44,786 --> 01:16:47,338 a fan of a totally new artist. 1526 01:17:03,269 --> 01:17:05,269 I was there in the front. 1527 01:17:05,372 --> 01:17:07,013 Everybody here tonight who is an Eminem fan, 1528 01:17:07,096 --> 01:17:09,013 man, I just want to say 1529 01:17:09,096 --> 01:17:11,979 thank you for the support, man, 1530 01:17:12,062 --> 01:17:14,890 and not giving up on me, man. 1531 01:17:14,993 --> 01:17:18,338 I love y'all and I couldn't have did it without you, 1532 01:17:18,441 --> 01:17:21,013 so this song is for you. 1533 01:17:34,269 --> 01:17:36,269 To get to this one. 1534 01:17:36,372 --> 01:17:39,979 And some of you might still be in that place, 1535 01:17:41,234 --> 01:17:42,752 Trying to get out. 1536 01:18:04,234 --> 01:18:08,096 That album helped rectify a lot of things in my life. 1537 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,165 Talking about going through losing his friend, 1538 01:18:10,303 --> 01:18:14,131 talking about the sleeping pill addiction. 1539 01:18:14,234 --> 01:18:16,255 I'm just like Marshall. 1540 01:18:16,338 --> 01:18:18,958 There's times when, in a 48-hour period, 1541 01:18:19,096 --> 01:18:22,393 I'd blow through 30 to 45 Ambien, like it was nothing. 1542 01:18:24,958 --> 01:18:26,993 Watching how he's gotten sober, 1543 01:18:27,096 --> 01:18:29,910 I didn't feel the need to numb myself anymore. 1544 01:18:35,303 --> 01:18:38,683 I'm sitting down at home one day, 1545 01:18:38,821 --> 01:18:42,393 and I'm just drinking, and I pop the pill, 1546 01:18:42,476 --> 01:18:44,600 and "Not Afraid" came on. 1547 01:18:44,683 --> 01:18:47,786 I took it like he was speaking to me. 1548 01:18:47,924 --> 01:18:49,476 And that moment, that day, 1549 01:18:49,614 --> 01:18:51,958 that night gave me that push to say, 1550 01:18:52,096 --> 01:18:54,393 I'm done. 1551 01:18:54,476 --> 01:18:55,958 I have a wife now. I have a kid. 1552 01:18:56,062 --> 01:18:57,393 I have responsibilities. 1553 01:18:57,476 --> 01:18:59,427 I can't... I have to stop this. 1554 01:18:59,510 --> 01:19:01,855 So if I didn't act on it in that moment, 1555 01:19:01,958 --> 01:19:04,683 I would have been screwed. 1556 01:19:04,786 --> 01:19:07,234 He was by my side, helping me 1557 01:19:07,338 --> 01:19:10,441 so I could be completely clean and clear out my head 1558 01:19:10,579 --> 01:19:12,476 and start doing something with my life. 1559 01:20:25,165 --> 01:20:27,303 When I was young, I was really using music, 1560 01:20:27,407 --> 01:20:30,807 and often times Eminem's music, to self-medicate 1561 01:20:30,890 --> 01:20:33,062 for my generalized anxiety disorder. 1562 01:20:33,165 --> 01:20:35,358 Just kind of having a hard time with life 1563 01:20:35,441 --> 01:20:36,944 and just processing different emotions, 1564 01:20:37,027 --> 01:20:40,683 from being bullied at school or wanting to date girls 1565 01:20:40,786 --> 01:20:42,269 and being rejected. 1566 01:20:42,407 --> 01:20:44,688 Like, you know, all the things that come with adolescence. 1567 01:20:45,614 --> 01:20:47,648 As I got older, I started at UNC and 1568 01:20:47,752 --> 01:20:50,096 led a team of researchers, and we analyzed 1569 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,096 rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018. 1570 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:58,062 We saw mental health references go from 8% to 44%. 1571 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,200 Our findings were a reflection 1572 01:21:00,303 --> 01:21:01,786 of society changing, 1573 01:21:01,924 --> 01:21:04,269 and there were certain artists early on, 1574 01:21:04,407 --> 01:21:05,958 Eminem among them, 1575 01:21:06,096 --> 01:21:09,648 who really kind of normalized it 1576 01:21:09,752 --> 01:21:12,082 and made it OK to talk about these difficult feelings 1577 01:21:12,165 --> 01:21:13,338 and emotions. 1578 01:21:14,855 --> 01:21:16,993 There's so much strength in vulnerability, 1579 01:21:17,096 --> 01:21:19,875 and that is such a powerful thing. 1580 01:21:19,958 --> 01:21:24,338 That's one of the reasons for Eminem's success. 1581 01:21:24,441 --> 01:21:26,131 When he's really vulnerable, 1582 01:21:26,234 --> 01:21:29,255 and he takes you there, when he's talking about himself, 1583 01:21:29,338 --> 01:21:31,427 and the downsides of himself, 1584 01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:34,096 those are the things that I gravitate to 1585 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,924 more so than anything. 1586 01:22:09,269 --> 01:22:10,924 Eminem was one of 1587 01:22:11,027 --> 01:22:13,979 the most important people in this trend. 1588 01:22:14,062 --> 01:22:16,579 He made it more acceptable for other artists 1589 01:22:16,717 --> 01:22:19,027 to really talk about these complex emotions. 1590 01:23:12,993 --> 01:23:18,303 I really felt like those lyrics were written for me. 1591 01:23:18,407 --> 01:23:20,476 It's extremely therapeutic, 1592 01:23:20,579 --> 01:23:23,958 and I don't take that for granted. 1593 01:23:24,062 --> 01:23:26,890 He really has gone through so much and struggled, 1594 01:23:26,993 --> 01:23:29,786 and I felt connected to him in a way 1595 01:23:29,924 --> 01:23:34,096 that I ended up changing my legal name to Marshall. 1596 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,269 It's kind of a reminder to not feel like I have to 1597 01:23:36,372 --> 01:23:39,510 apologize for who I am. 1598 01:24:25,821 --> 01:24:28,255 I originally wrote this letter to Eminem 1599 01:24:28,338 --> 01:24:30,303 three months ago, but I never sent it. 1600 01:24:35,165 --> 01:24:38,338 "Dear Eminem, I'm not sure you're going 1601 01:24:38,441 --> 01:24:40,027 "to get this or even read it. 1602 01:24:40,165 --> 01:24:42,082 "I'm just going to write down how I feel about everything, 1603 01:24:42,165 --> 01:24:44,338 "because, honestly, you're one of the only people that 1604 01:24:44,441 --> 01:24:46,648 "are helping me get through this, even if I'm just 1605 01:24:46,786 --> 01:24:48,289 "a random 14-year-old girl 1606 01:24:48,372 --> 01:24:50,462 "probably having one of those mood swings. 1607 01:24:50,545 --> 01:24:52,855 "Don't worry, I won't end up like your song 'Stan, ' 1608 01:24:52,958 --> 01:24:54,648 "even though it's one of my favorites. 1609 01:24:54,752 --> 01:24:56,910 "But it will never beat 'Mockingbird.' 1610 01:24:56,993 --> 01:24:59,027 "That fucking song saved my life. 1611 01:24:59,131 --> 01:25:01,013 "My parents are constantly fighting about stuff 1612 01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:02,545 "that don't even matter. 1613 01:25:02,648 --> 01:25:05,510 "And it gets annoying, because when I say something about it, 1614 01:25:05,614 --> 01:25:07,013 "I get blamed for it. 1615 01:25:07,096 --> 01:25:10,924 "And the only one that I feel cares about me 1616 01:25:11,062 --> 01:25:13,234 "is my brother, because he was the one 1617 01:25:13,338 --> 01:25:15,683 "that had me listening to you ever since I was born. 1618 01:25:15,786 --> 01:25:17,669 "He's in his 20s, and I love him a lot, 1619 01:25:17,752 --> 01:25:20,890 and I wish my parents..." 1620 01:25:21,027 --> 01:25:22,441 "Loved me as much as he did. 1621 01:25:22,545 --> 01:25:24,717 "I thought about how much you care about Hailie 1622 01:25:24,855 --> 01:25:26,151 "and just wish they cared about me 1623 01:25:26,234 --> 01:25:27,703 "as much as you did with her. 1624 01:25:27,786 --> 01:25:29,944 "It's crazy that your songs and even your silly interviews 1625 01:25:30,027 --> 01:25:32,013 "make me feel happier than my family ever did. 1626 01:25:32,096 --> 01:25:33,924 "I know I'm just another Eminem fan who 1627 01:25:34,027 --> 01:25:36,269 "has a sad backstory or some other shit like that, 1628 01:25:36,407 --> 01:25:37,683 "but you're such a cool guy. 1629 01:25:37,786 --> 01:25:40,441 "I admire you, and if my parents did, 1630 01:25:40,545 --> 01:25:42,462 "maybe they'd be an even better parent like you are. 1631 01:25:42,545 --> 01:25:44,717 Hope you get this, Kripa." 1632 01:25:46,338 --> 01:25:48,324 Why do you think you chose him as an outlet 1633 01:25:48,407 --> 01:25:50,614 for your tough feelings? 1634 01:25:50,717 --> 01:25:52,027 Um, sorry, wait. 1635 01:25:54,510 --> 01:25:57,614 Um, probably because, like, 1636 01:25:57,717 --> 01:26:00,786 he's had a really tough childhood too, so I feel like, 1637 01:26:00,924 --> 01:26:02,821 um, he would relate a little bit. 1638 01:26:02,924 --> 01:26:08,703 Taking my feelings out with, like, writing something... 1639 01:26:08,786 --> 01:26:10,048 sorry. 1640 01:26:10,131 --> 01:26:16,441 Um, I feel like it, like, makes me feel better. 1641 01:26:25,545 --> 01:26:28,303 I feel like it makes me feel better 1642 01:26:28,407 --> 01:26:30,476 'cause there's also other people out there 1643 01:26:30,579 --> 01:26:32,082 going through the same thing. 1644 01:26:32,165 --> 01:26:36,703 And so if they see what I'm going through 1645 01:26:36,786 --> 01:26:38,648 and what, like, Eminem went through, 1646 01:26:38,786 --> 01:26:40,565 maybe they'll know that a lot of people 1647 01:26:40,648 --> 01:26:42,131 also go through the same things 1648 01:26:42,269 --> 01:26:45,958 that, like, other people do. 1649 01:26:47,821 --> 01:26:50,476 A big part of my tattoos have been about 1650 01:26:50,579 --> 01:26:54,303 facing up to my mental health. 1651 01:26:54,441 --> 01:26:57,082 A lot of people really didn't like my world record. 1652 01:26:57,165 --> 01:26:58,531 What a stupid record. 1653 01:26:58,614 --> 01:27:00,441 It's ridiculous. 1654 01:27:00,545 --> 01:27:04,890 It can hurt when... when people say horrible things. 1655 01:27:05,027 --> 01:27:06,703 I've been told that I need to be locked up, 1656 01:27:06,786 --> 01:27:08,683 I should be in a mental place. 1657 01:27:12,614 --> 01:27:14,600 Although I read the negative things, 1658 01:27:14,683 --> 01:27:16,165 and it's hurtful, 1659 01:27:16,269 --> 01:27:19,151 it would never change the fact that 1660 01:27:19,234 --> 01:27:22,151 I've continued to get the tattoos. 1661 01:27:22,234 --> 01:27:25,117 Do you have a favorite Eminem song? 1662 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,579 I usually say "Not Afraid." 1663 01:27:27,717 --> 01:27:30,372 There are a lot of positives, too, 1664 01:27:30,476 --> 01:27:33,200 because my Instagram has brought a lot of other fans 1665 01:27:33,303 --> 01:27:36,648 who really relate to me in a lot of ways. 1666 01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,683 And I met my husband. 1667 01:27:42,579 --> 01:27:44,890 He's a really big Eminem fan as well, 1668 01:27:44,993 --> 01:27:48,027 and he reached out to me. 1669 01:27:48,131 --> 01:27:50,772 It's really nice to have somebody that 1670 01:27:50,855 --> 01:27:53,117 gets the whole Eminem thing. 1671 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,634 I get these impulsive thoughts in my head. 1672 01:27:55,717 --> 01:27:58,855 I was like, we should get married in Detroit. 1673 01:27:58,958 --> 01:28:00,841 We got married at St. Andrew's Hall, 1674 01:28:00,924 --> 01:28:04,407 which is one of the first places that Eminem performed. 1675 01:28:04,510 --> 01:28:08,752 And now we've got a son. 1676 01:28:08,890 --> 01:28:10,165 Without Eminem, 1677 01:28:10,269 --> 01:28:13,407 I wouldn't have the life I have right now. 1678 01:28:24,717 --> 01:28:28,958 What do you think is meant by "The Death of Slim Shady"? 1679 01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:30,062 Who knows how he means it? 1680 01:28:30,165 --> 01:28:31,096 He's a satirist. 1681 01:28:31,234 --> 01:28:32,476 He could be, like, 1682 01:28:32,614 --> 01:28:34,303 saying let's cancel Slim Shady. 1683 01:28:34,441 --> 01:28:38,186 Which is kind of funny to even think about. 1684 01:28:38,269 --> 01:28:42,096 Slim Shady can't be canceled. 1685 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,476 "The Death of Slim Shady" is a concept album, 1686 01:28:45,614 --> 01:28:47,186 so you gotta listen from start to finish, 1687 01:28:47,269 --> 01:28:50,013 um, and it's about Slim Shady, his character 1688 01:28:50,096 --> 01:28:54,358 that he started 25 years ago, and how his character 1689 01:28:54,441 --> 01:28:55,875 would be in this age. 1690 01:29:15,890 --> 01:29:21,545 This album is about, I'm not holding back. 1691 01:29:21,683 --> 01:29:24,082 I'm gonna do everything I can to get canceled. 1692 01:29:29,234 --> 01:29:30,841 I'm not sure people actually understand now 1693 01:29:30,924 --> 01:29:32,165 that Slim Shady is a character. 1694 01:29:32,269 --> 01:29:34,255 I feel like the new album just offended more people, 1695 01:29:34,338 --> 01:29:36,958 but I think that that was kind of the intention. 1696 01:29:37,062 --> 01:29:38,772 The world is in a very different place 1697 01:29:38,855 --> 01:29:41,510 to where it was in 1999. 1698 01:29:41,648 --> 01:29:43,338 Gen Z wants to cancel him. 1699 01:29:43,441 --> 01:29:44,910 Nobody can cancel Eminem. 1700 01:29:44,993 --> 01:29:46,131 Jesus Christ himself 1701 01:29:46,234 --> 01:29:48,648 will have to come down and cancel Eminem, 1702 01:29:48,752 --> 01:29:50,131 and he ain't coming down either. 1703 01:29:50,234 --> 01:29:54,372 As his fan base, we all grew into this whole family, 1704 01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:56,117 and we're going to protect this man 1705 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,082 by any means necessary. 1706 01:29:58,165 --> 01:30:00,165 Going online and seeing people 1707 01:30:00,269 --> 01:30:01,993 trying to cancel Eminem, 1708 01:30:02,131 --> 01:30:03,476 that is soft, 1709 01:30:03,579 --> 01:30:05,993 and fuck you if you don't like it. 1710 01:30:06,096 --> 01:30:08,427 Throw up a middle finger and let it linger. 1711 01:30:08,510 --> 01:30:11,131 I don't give a fuck, mostly. 1712 01:30:11,234 --> 01:30:12,393 Calm down, Slim. 1713 01:30:12,476 --> 01:30:14,234 We both made Eminem. 1714 01:30:14,338 --> 01:30:16,131 He's the best of both of us. 1715 01:30:16,234 --> 01:30:18,407 And, really, it's not about me or you. 1716 01:30:18,510 --> 01:30:21,131 It's about him and the fans. 1717 01:30:21,234 --> 01:30:23,062 Damn. 1718 01:30:23,165 --> 01:30:25,510 I don't even want to fucking admit it, 1719 01:30:25,614 --> 01:30:27,979 but your bitch ass is right. 1720 01:30:28,062 --> 01:30:29,441 I'm embarrassed. 1721 01:30:29,545 --> 01:30:31,545 When I'm in Paris, I'm embarrassed 1722 01:30:31,648 --> 01:30:33,614 of my parents' parrot. 1723 01:30:42,407 --> 01:30:44,944 I'm sure 200%, 1,000%. 1724 01:30:46,855 --> 01:30:49,372 Everyone, no matter how old or young, 1725 01:30:49,476 --> 01:30:50,979 will appreciate Eminem's music. 1726 01:30:59,441 --> 01:31:01,703 People who have not been born yet 1727 01:31:01,786 --> 01:31:04,303 will follow his music, 1728 01:31:04,407 --> 01:31:05,717 reopen "The Slim Shady LP," 1729 01:31:05,821 --> 01:31:07,234 and love him from start to finish. 1730 01:31:09,407 --> 01:31:10,648 I'll be looking down proud, 1731 01:31:10,752 --> 01:31:13,220 like, yeah, damn straight, y'all. 1732 01:31:13,303 --> 01:31:14,752 You get that white tee on. 1733 01:31:14,855 --> 01:31:16,476 You get those baggy blue jeans. 1734 01:31:16,579 --> 01:31:18,096 For sure. Rock it. 1735 01:31:18,234 --> 01:31:21,407 A hundred years from now, in the catalogs of catalogs, 1736 01:31:21,510 --> 01:31:24,338 you'll be able to go back and listen to "Lose Yourself" 1737 01:31:24,441 --> 01:31:28,614 or "The Way I Am," and you'll know Eminem was that guy. 1738 01:31:28,752 --> 01:31:30,407 All great artists have the ability 1739 01:31:30,510 --> 01:31:32,096 to reinvent themselves. 1740 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,476 And yet, I feel like every time a lot of artists 1741 01:31:34,579 --> 01:31:37,048 do that, they always sacrifice a little bit of something, 1742 01:31:37,131 --> 01:31:40,220 and Marshall's never sacrificed anything. 1743 01:31:40,303 --> 01:31:44,393 He's, like, remained true to the first day I met him. 1744 01:31:44,476 --> 01:31:46,407 I'm just happy I went after my dreams 1745 01:31:46,510 --> 01:31:49,062 'cause it inspired another kid to go after his dreams, 1746 01:31:49,165 --> 01:31:50,269 you know? 1747 01:31:50,407 --> 01:31:53,269 The fact that he had enough personal empathy 1748 01:31:53,407 --> 01:31:57,476 to write something where 1749 01:31:57,614 --> 01:32:01,200 the fans' feelings are being considered 1750 01:32:01,303 --> 01:32:03,476 tells you who he is, and for that, 1751 01:32:03,579 --> 01:32:05,510 I love and respect him. 1752 01:32:05,648 --> 01:32:07,807 It's a crazy thing when all of a sudden 1753 01:32:07,890 --> 01:32:11,117 you go from being someone no one cares about 1754 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,062 to someone that a lot of people care about. 1755 01:32:14,165 --> 01:32:17,855 What he's done with his life is extraordinary. 1756 01:32:17,958 --> 01:32:22,303 He has grown to be a fantastic human being 1757 01:32:22,407 --> 01:32:26,545 that is really fucking dope at his craft. 1758 01:32:26,683 --> 01:32:30,476 He's an amazing father, and I can't wait to see 1759 01:32:30,579 --> 01:32:32,958 what he's going to turn out to be next. 1760 01:32:36,855 --> 01:32:40,303 Coming here, were you expecting to see Eminem? 1761 01:32:40,407 --> 01:32:42,717 Maybe. 1762 01:32:42,821 --> 01:32:45,200 I don't... that would be really cool. 1763 01:32:45,303 --> 01:32:47,944 Half yes, half no. 1764 01:32:48,027 --> 01:32:49,648 Yes and no. 1765 01:32:49,786 --> 01:32:50,910 I didn't really expect it, 1766 01:32:50,993 --> 01:32:52,289 but I had thoughts about it, you know? 1767 01:32:52,372 --> 01:32:56,476 I was hoping that Eminem was going to be here. 1768 01:32:56,614 --> 01:32:57,855 He's a busy man. 1769 01:32:57,993 --> 01:32:59,220 He's got a song that he just dropped. 1770 01:32:59,303 --> 01:33:00,943 He's got an album that he's dropping soon. 1771 01:33:01,027 --> 01:33:02,496 I just wouldn't think he had the time. 1772 01:33:02,579 --> 01:33:04,013 Oh, my God, what would I even do? 1773 01:33:04,096 --> 01:33:05,013 What would I even say? 1774 01:33:05,096 --> 01:33:07,496 I would probably just throw up. 1775 01:33:07,579 --> 01:33:09,151 I don't know. 1776 01:33:09,234 --> 01:33:11,669 If I ever met Eminem, I would probably die. 1777 01:33:11,752 --> 01:33:13,372 I don't even know, man. 1778 01:33:13,476 --> 01:33:14,993 I'd be speechless. 1779 01:33:16,993 --> 01:33:18,269 2013. 1780 01:33:18,407 --> 01:33:20,752 He was in Paris for his new album. 1781 01:33:25,993 --> 01:33:28,358 And the car, they're going. 1782 01:33:28,441 --> 01:33:32,096 And I was like, no, I'm not going to... 1783 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:36,669 to see Marshall, and 15 seconds later, 1784 01:33:36,752 --> 01:33:38,717 the car stopped. 1785 01:33:42,027 --> 01:33:45,062 "Marshall want to see you." 1786 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,269 And every fan who was there 1787 01:33:49,407 --> 01:33:52,013 turned their head on me. 1788 01:33:52,096 --> 01:33:54,614 He knew my name, so I was like, 1789 01:33:54,717 --> 01:33:57,510 holy shit, he knew my name. 1790 01:34:14,890 --> 01:34:16,958 The bodyguard was like, 1791 01:34:17,096 --> 01:34:20,545 OK, OK, OK, Zolt, you go in the car. 1792 01:34:45,303 --> 01:34:46,786 Man, thank you. 1793 01:34:46,890 --> 01:34:48,993 Thank you for your music, for everything. 1794 01:34:59,786 --> 01:35:02,117 When you're an artist like Marshall, 1795 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:03,372 you don't have time. 1796 01:35:03,476 --> 01:35:05,958 You do not have time for anything. 1797 01:35:15,717 --> 01:35:17,924 I think he probably was shocked 1798 01:35:18,027 --> 01:35:21,841 because nobody will tell him you have to go. 1799 01:35:21,924 --> 01:35:26,579 But, you know, I'm the guy who respect his time. 1800 01:36:12,648 --> 01:36:17,669 I think that people imagine Stans as being, 1801 01:36:17,752 --> 01:36:19,476 you know, violent and deranged. 1802 01:36:19,614 --> 01:36:23,614 But in reality, being a Stan and being a fan 1803 01:36:23,717 --> 01:36:27,545 can actually be a positive and beautiful thing. 1804 01:36:29,648 --> 01:36:32,096 I've lost a lot of people in my life, 1805 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,096 but the one thing that has really gotten me through 1806 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,669 all those losses has been Eminem. 1807 01:36:37,752 --> 01:36:39,614 Eminem has always been a constant 1808 01:36:39,717 --> 01:36:42,407 throughout my entire life, and for a long time, 1809 01:36:42,510 --> 01:36:44,013 I really felt unlucky 1810 01:36:44,096 --> 01:36:46,165 because I wasn't able to meet him. 1811 01:36:46,269 --> 01:36:47,875 It's like the carrot's right there, 1812 01:36:47,958 --> 01:36:50,786 but it's like I can't figure out how to get to it. 1813 01:36:50,890 --> 01:36:52,924 Now my mindset has changed, because I feel like 1814 01:36:53,027 --> 01:36:55,924 this documentary is a lot more personal 1815 01:36:56,027 --> 01:37:00,821 than it would be just me to Em saying, hi, huge fan, 1816 01:37:00,958 --> 01:37:02,372 take a picture. 1817 01:37:02,510 --> 01:37:05,200 Now he kind of can understand exactly how I've become a... 1818 01:37:05,303 --> 01:37:07,372 like, how I've been a fan for so long 1819 01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:10,993 and, like, similar kind of struggles, 1820 01:37:11,131 --> 01:37:12,634 I guess, we've been through, 1821 01:37:12,717 --> 01:37:16,200 and just how his music has truly influenced my life 1822 01:37:16,303 --> 01:37:21,165 and helped me through really, you know, traumatic times. 1823 01:37:21,303 --> 01:37:24,821 But a true die-hard fan really does, I think, 1824 01:37:24,924 --> 01:37:30,910 understand me and every aspect of me 1825 01:37:30,993 --> 01:37:35,062 and understands that I am just a regular person. 1826 01:37:35,165 --> 01:37:38,131 I'm just a fucking human being. 1827 01:37:40,131 --> 01:37:42,648 The reason they connect with me is because 1828 01:37:42,752 --> 01:37:45,234 they see some of themselves in me. 1829 01:37:48,683 --> 01:37:50,807 Maybe they were bullied as a kid. 1830 01:37:50,890 --> 01:37:54,165 Maybe the world fucking dealt them a raw deal. 1831 01:37:56,303 --> 01:37:59,545 But for every young person that gets older 1832 01:37:59,683 --> 01:38:03,752 and wants to pay the world back... 1833 01:38:03,855 --> 01:38:07,634 that's the person that connects with me the most, 1834 01:38:07,717 --> 01:38:09,579 because they understand me, 1835 01:38:09,717 --> 01:38:11,579 and I feel like I understand them, 1836 01:38:11,717 --> 01:38:15,496 and I get them because they're really me. 1837 01:38:15,579 --> 01:38:18,924 The fans that have grown with me from day one 1838 01:38:19,062 --> 01:38:21,979 till now, it's, like, unbelievable 1839 01:38:22,062 --> 01:38:23,496 that they're still with me, 1840 01:38:23,579 --> 01:38:25,234 and I'm very blessed to this day 1841 01:38:25,372 --> 01:38:28,855 to still have people that ride for me like that. 1842 01:38:28,958 --> 01:38:30,855 To my fans, thank you. 1843 01:38:30,958 --> 01:38:32,890 I love y'all, and I am... 1844 01:38:32,993 --> 01:38:35,683 I would not be here, if it was not for you. 1845 01:38:35,786 --> 01:38:39,890 So I owe you my life, 1846 01:38:39,993 --> 01:38:43,510 and that's who I do my music for is them, 1847 01:38:43,614 --> 01:38:45,462 and fuck everybody else. 1848 01:38:45,545 --> 01:38:49,234 Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em. 1849 01:38:49,372 --> 01:38:51,476 Eat a dick. 1850 01:38:51,579 --> 01:38:55,407 You don't like it, eat a fat dick. 1851 01:38:58,234 --> 01:39:00,013 Hey, Em, it's Paul again. 1852 01:39:00,096 --> 01:39:04,579 I watched the movie, and we got to talk about the ending. 1853 01:39:04,683 --> 01:39:07,427 Give me a call back. 1854 01:39:11,717 --> 01:39:12,979 All right, I only got one minute, 1855 01:39:13,062 --> 01:39:18,338 and I'm at work, and I'm at, like, 4% on my battery. 1856 01:39:18,441 --> 01:39:19,910 OK, Gracie, one minute to do this, 1857 01:39:19,993 --> 01:39:21,545 so my daughter's gonna help me. 1858 01:39:21,648 --> 01:39:24,372 Please excuse me. I just got up. 1859 01:39:24,476 --> 01:39:26,255 Um... 1860 01:39:26,338 --> 01:39:28,958 Marshall Mathers is... 1861 01:39:29,062 --> 01:39:31,131 I can't believe I have this opportunity 1862 01:39:31,234 --> 01:39:34,165 even to make this video, and you might see this, dog. 1863 01:39:34,303 --> 01:39:37,048 Just know I wouldn't be me without you. 1864 01:39:37,131 --> 01:39:40,738 I'm your biggest fan, Marshall Mathers/Eminem. 1865 01:39:40,821 --> 01:39:43,165 Detroit, baby, Detroit. 1866 01:39:43,303 --> 01:39:46,614 I'm Lisa Mathers, and this is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II, 1867 01:39:46,752 --> 01:39:47,910 but we call him Shady for short. 1868 01:39:47,993 --> 01:39:50,786 Just want you to know that I'm Em's biggest fan 1869 01:39:50,890 --> 01:39:53,738 because I'm pretty much the female version of him. 1870 01:39:53,821 --> 01:39:56,131 Was just married August 26th of last year 1871 01:39:56,234 --> 01:39:57,303 and walked down the aisle 1872 01:39:57,407 --> 01:39:59,220 to the instrumental to "Lose Yourself." 1873 01:39:59,303 --> 01:40:00,510 Bum, bum, bum, bum. 1874 01:40:00,614 --> 01:40:02,013 All my friends and family were like, 1875 01:40:02,096 --> 01:40:03,303 whoa, let's get it. 1876 01:40:03,407 --> 01:40:06,165 I am Stan. Stan I am. 1877 01:40:06,303 --> 01:40:08,510 It's kind of like Dr. Seuss, but no. 1878 01:40:08,614 --> 01:40:10,510 I have two Eminem tattoos. 1879 01:40:10,614 --> 01:40:14,614 One on my chest. One on the other chest. 1880 01:40:14,752 --> 01:40:16,958 And a D12 tattoo. 1881 01:40:17,062 --> 01:40:21,441 I listen to Eminem music every fucking single day. 1882 01:40:21,579 --> 01:40:24,131 I live Eminem, you can say. 1883 01:40:24,269 --> 01:40:28,234 Mr. Mathers, I love you. 1884 01:40:28,338 --> 01:40:30,200 From Japan. 1885 01:40:30,303 --> 01:40:32,600 This is a piece of the tree of the old house 1886 01:40:32,683 --> 01:40:35,393 and a flower from the new house right here. 1887 01:40:35,476 --> 01:40:37,910 Doesn't feel too great, but, at the same time, 1888 01:40:37,993 --> 01:40:38,958 it kind of does. 1889 01:40:39,062 --> 01:40:40,427 Hello, Eminem. 1890 01:40:40,510 --> 01:40:44,600 I'm a fan, and I listen to your music all the time. 1891 01:40:44,683 --> 01:40:47,269 Have a wonderful day and take care of your family. 1892 01:40:47,372 --> 01:40:48,683 Bye. 134540

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