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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:02,960 Bye. 2 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,560 Last week tonight, John Oliver, thank you so much for joining us. It has been 3 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,520 busy week. March Madness got underway. 4 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Mark Wayne Mullen cleared the first hurdle to become head of DHS. And of 5 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,560 the conflict in Iran continued. 6 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:46,980 Now, despite relentless bombing, the U .S. has been unable to stop Iran 7 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:50,780 targets around the region and blocking the Strait of Hormuz. The news hasn't 8 00:00:50,780 --> 00:00:54,640 been great. So on Thursday, Secretary Pete Hexeth decided to speak to the 9 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,640 American public directly. 10 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,580 I stand here today speaking to you. 11 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:01,500 The American people. 12 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:04,019 Not through filters. 13 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:05,800 Not through reporters. 14 00:01:06,580 --> 00:01:09,020 Not through cable news spin. 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,420 Yes, there are reporters in front of me, but they are not our audience today. 16 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:21,100 It's you, the good, decent, patriotic American people. You, the hard -working, 17 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:27,700 tax -paying, God -fearing American patriots. Okay, set aside, Hexhurst. 18 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:31,810 whole vibe there, which is very, welcome to my birthday dinner, one of you has 19 00:01:31,810 --> 00:01:32,810 been poisoned. 20 00:01:33,070 --> 00:01:36,890 You actually don't need to announce who you are and aren't speaking to. There's 21 00:01:36,890 --> 00:01:39,310 a reason I don't start this show by saying, welcome, welcome, welcome. 22 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:41,110 Fuck this studio audience. 23 00:01:41,570 --> 00:01:44,790 I wish they'd jump into the Hudson River if they don't laugh that's on them. 24 00:01:44,850 --> 00:01:49,190 Anyway, it's been a busy week. I might think it, but I'd never say it. 25 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:54,220 Headsets seem particularly frustrated at the press pointing out parallels 26 00:01:54,220 --> 00:01:57,720 between this conflict and these wars that America's been stuck in in the 27 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:00,960 This is not those wars. 28 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,560 President Trump knows better. 29 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,140 Epic theory is different. 30 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:11,460 It's laser -focused. It's decisive. To the patriotic members of the press, 31 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:15,160 nobody can deliver perfection in wartime. 32 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,200 This building knows that more than anyone. 33 00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:19,420 But report... 34 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,720 The reality. 35 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,460 We're winning decisively and on our terms. 36 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,700 Epic Fury is different? 37 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:32,540 Maybe. It's definitely the stupidest name I've ever heard. 38 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,740 It sounds like a VHS tape Hex has put out of himself doing karate in a garage. 39 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,620 It sounds like the name of an energy drink marketed to divorced monster truck 40 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:44,100 fans containing so much caffeine it makes you shit your pants while having a 41 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:44,839 heart attack. 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,700 It doesn't exactly convey care and precision. 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,340 But at the risk of not being a patriotic member of the press, a lot of things do 44 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:55,520 seem to be going pretty poorly, from strikes on Iran's oil facilities causing 45 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,580 toxic black rain endangering the public there, to the continued blockage of the 46 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:04,270 Strait of Hormuz, which is causing skyrocketing gas... And while polls 47 00:03:04,270 --> 00:03:08,010 that Trump's base is sticking with him so far, there are already signs of some 48 00:03:08,010 --> 00:03:11,650 cracks there, given the response of this woman interviewed at a gas pump. 49 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:15,070 If you could say something to President Trump and he was going to hear you right 50 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:16,430 now, what would it be? 51 00:03:17,150 --> 00:03:23,310 You're a worthless pile of... And you voted for him how many times? 52 00:03:23,530 --> 00:03:24,530 Three times. 53 00:03:24,690 --> 00:03:26,050 That was my bad. 54 00:03:26,370 --> 00:03:27,770 Apparently, I'm an idiot. 55 00:03:28,370 --> 00:03:31,150 I mean, not... No. 56 00:03:32,030 --> 00:03:36,030 You know what they say, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on 57 00:03:36,150 --> 00:03:39,970 fool me three times, there's going to be a blockade in the Strait of Hormuz, and 58 00:03:39,970 --> 00:03:42,730 my road trip to St. Louis is about to cost more than my car payment. 59 00:03:43,150 --> 00:03:45,390 Now, as for where things go from here, who knows? 60 00:03:45,850 --> 00:03:48,990 Thousands of Marines have been sent to the region, possibly to secure Iran's 61 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:52,950 Karg Island, which most people would consider putting boots on the ground. 62 00:03:53,070 --> 00:03:56,250 However, Republican Pete Sessions is not most people. 63 00:03:56,750 --> 00:03:58,610 The island is not... 64 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,740 in my opinion, boots on the ground. How so? 65 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,220 It is a territory. It is Iran. 66 00:04:06,540 --> 00:04:07,540 Well, 67 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,600 I'm not going to argue that point. As a matter of fact, you're right. 68 00:04:12,860 --> 00:04:19,339 But what I would say is the president has chosen not to obliterate the ability 69 00:04:19,339 --> 00:04:21,279 to get oil. 70 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,240 And I think he wants to go secure that to make sure the Iranians don't do 71 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,240 themselves in. 72 00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:29,560 So I think it's probably wisdom. 73 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,300 Is that boots on the ground? No, not like inside Iran where they're in the 74 00:04:35,300 --> 00:04:40,500 cities. Wait, wait. So it's not boots on the ground because they're not in a 75 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:42,360 city? What the fuck are you talking about? 76 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:46,300 That clearly counts. The phrase isn't boots in the city. 77 00:04:47,460 --> 00:04:50,340 Mainly because I'm guessing that's already the title of an all -cat reboot 78 00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:55,140 Sex and the City starring Puss in Boots. The point is, Trump seems desperate. 79 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,920 to paint this situation as much more stable than it actually is. And on 80 00:04:58,940 --> 00:05:00,640 he essentially just declared victory. 81 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,960 Oh, I think we've won. We've knocked out their Navy, their Air Force. We've 82 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,980 knocked out their anti -aircraft. We've knocked out everything. We're roaming 83 00:05:08,980 --> 00:05:13,300 free. From a military standpoint, all they're doing is flogging up the strait. 84 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,860 But from a military standpoint, they're finished. 85 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Oh, well, that's great news. But here is the problem with that. He already 86 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,160 declared that we'd won the war 11 days ago. 87 00:05:23,690 --> 00:05:26,590 And I don't know if you've noticed, but it has seemed to continue since then. 88 00:05:26,770 --> 00:05:30,510 And I've got to say, for all this administration's disdain for cable news 89 00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:35,290 and its insistence people report the reality, they are stretching the truth 90 00:05:35,290 --> 00:05:38,870 breaking point here. Because even as Trump's claiming that we've won, the 91 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:42,730 Pentagon's requesting $200 billion in extra funding for this operation, sure 92 00:05:42,730 --> 00:05:46,130 suggesting it's going to be going on for a while. He's also claimed we've 93 00:05:46,130 --> 00:05:50,070 destroyed 100 % of Iran's military capability, which is a little hard to 94 00:05:50,070 --> 00:05:53,250 believe, given they're still somehow managing to strike multiple... other 95 00:05:53,250 --> 00:05:57,070 countries in the region, and he claimed twice this week that a former president 96 00:05:57,070 --> 00:06:00,630 endorsed his decision to go to war, something they've all since denied. 97 00:06:01,290 --> 00:06:05,870 The lies are getting pretty flagrant here, even by this president's 98 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:09,630 and inevitably people are noticing. In fact, you could argue that the only 99 00:06:09,630 --> 00:06:14,510 irrefutably laser -focused, decisive, epic fury that has been on display this 100 00:06:14,510 --> 00:06:17,510 week has been this outburst targeted at him. 101 00:06:17,850 --> 00:06:20,310 You are a worthless pile of... 102 00:06:21,940 --> 00:06:22,980 Again, not no. 103 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,460 And now, this. 104 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:30,880 And now, as always, people on local TV cannot be trusted with St. 105 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:31,939 Patrick's Day. 106 00:06:31,940 --> 00:06:34,840 It is so great to have you here, Chef. Thank you for having me. How are y 'all 107 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,920 today? Great. Thank you and happy St. Patrick's Day to you. Thank you. Happy 108 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,300 Patrick's Day to y 'all. Top of the morning. 109 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,740 Well, may the luck of the Irish be with ya. 110 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:46,120 653. Good morning. Top of the morning to y 'all. Top of the morning to all of 111 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,680 ya. Top of the morning to ya. 112 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,800 Top of the morning to ya. I don't know if that came out Irish enough, but hey, 113 00:06:50,820 --> 00:06:53,840 whatever. Jane, top of the morning to ya. 114 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,820 Top of the morning. 115 00:06:56,180 --> 00:06:58,620 Right? Top of the morning to ya. Happy St. 116 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,300 Patrick's Day. Oh, I like that. I like that. That was good. Top of the morning 117 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:04,940 to ya. I can't do Irish. 118 00:07:05,180 --> 00:07:08,340 Top of the morning to ya, Christina. It's a beautiful morning out there. And 119 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:11,740 we're definitely feeling like I should stop doing that accent. Top of the 120 00:07:11,740 --> 00:07:13,600 morning to ya. Top of the morning. 121 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,700 You gotta give it more oomph, Jacqueline. I'm not Irish. Come on. 122 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:19,520 Maybe Chip has some Irish in him. Let's send it over to Chip. 123 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:20,960 Maybe he can do the Irish jig. 124 00:07:21,340 --> 00:07:27,900 I have an Irish jig. I can do an Irish jig. No, actually, my lineage comes from 125 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:31,520 England, so we'd be the persecutors, I guess, in that situation. 126 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,340 Who's your favorite Irish person? 127 00:07:34,180 --> 00:07:35,180 I don't know. 128 00:07:35,380 --> 00:07:38,760 Off the top of your head. You don't like any Irish people? 129 00:07:39,060 --> 00:07:42,040 That's not what I said. You can't think of anybody you like? 130 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,640 No. 131 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,300 Moving on. Our main story tonight concerns undercover policing. 132 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,760 It's not just a staple of movies and TV shows. It's something cops do in real 133 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,960 life, too, to catch people suspected of breaking laws, both big and small, as 134 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,960 this woman discovered. 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Karen Haig plans to fight the $230 ticket she got on Halloween Day, accused 136 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:08,460 dozens of other drivers of not stopping to let a six -foot -four Donald Duck 137 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:09,460 cross the street. 138 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:13,320 Then they just told me that I was getting a ticket because I didn't stop 139 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,440 pedestrian. And it was a crazy... 140 00:08:15,950 --> 00:08:19,490 It was a duck. It was a huge duck. It was scary. I'm a woman. It scared me. 141 00:08:20,210 --> 00:08:21,049 It's true. 142 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:26,510 A cop dressed up as Donald Duck and then ticketed people who didn't stop to let 143 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:30,010 him cross. And I get why she kept driving there. Ducks are terrifying. 144 00:08:30,750 --> 00:08:34,710 As we've covered before, all ducks, Donald included, have a corkscrew penis. 145 00:08:35,070 --> 00:08:38,390 This isn't the first time that we've used this graphic and it will not be the 146 00:08:38,390 --> 00:08:39,390 last. 147 00:08:39,770 --> 00:08:44,110 Incidentally, Disney, this guy hits public domain in 2030, and things are 148 00:08:44,110 --> 00:08:45,430 to get interesting then. 149 00:08:46,370 --> 00:08:50,910 That is just one of many instances where cops have set up so -called stings. In 150 00:08:50,910 --> 00:08:54,890 the past four decades, sting operations of all types have become a major part of 151 00:08:54,890 --> 00:08:57,870 law enforcement in the US. There are stings targeting drug dealing, sex work, 152 00:08:58,010 --> 00:09:02,430 terrorism, tax fraud, drunk driving, poaching, and a host of other crimes, 153 00:09:02,530 --> 00:09:05,670 including, as you've just seen, failure to yield to a gigantic duck. 154 00:09:06,220 --> 00:09:09,580 And on some level, you probably know that cops like running sting operations, 155 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,120 given just how often they appear on local news. 156 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:17,320 Drivers for the online ride service Uber targeted in an L .A. sting operation. 157 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:21,460 Dozens of people have been indicted in a criminal sting operation called 158 00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:25,920 Operation Hush. A four -month major sting operation ends with a Butler 159 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,640 man facing felony drug charges. 160 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,980 Investigators set up a sting operation orchestrating a purchase with the 161 00:09:30,980 --> 00:09:32,280 suspected drug traffickers. 162 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,120 The amount of fentanyl seized, and hear this. 163 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,100 could kill the entire population of Louisville several times over. 164 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,660 Wow, is that anchor okay? 165 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,320 Pops say there was enough fentanyl to annihilate this godforsaken town, 166 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,080 behind nothing but a desert of crow -pecked bones future generations will 167 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,380 refer to as the Shadow Place. 168 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,180 Up next, we'll take you inside Louisville's new aquarium, which, and 169 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,620 contains enough water to drown us all several times over. 170 00:10:00,620 --> 00:10:04,100 But whilst things are often celebrated as triumphs on the news, when you start 171 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:08,100 digging into them, the details can quickly become questionable at best. 172 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:12,160 Take that Uber thing. The way operations like those work is an undercover 173 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,560 officer flags down an Uber, maybe because they don't have the app or that 174 00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:19,020 phone is dead, and offers to pay cash for a ride to their destination. The 175 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:23,340 being, ride -share drivers are subject to arrest if a ride isn't pre -arranged. 176 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,600 That seems like a pretty shitty thing to do. 177 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,960 given drivers may have been bending the rules to help someone who was telling 178 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,000 them they were in need. 179 00:10:30,260 --> 00:10:34,320 And that makes it kind of satisfying to watch this video shot by someone caught 180 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,440 in a similar sting, who then went back to the same location to warn other 181 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,540 drivers. Hey, brother, those people are undercover cops. I just got a citation 182 00:10:42,540 --> 00:10:43,399 for this. 183 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,199 Oh, really? 184 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,220 Yeah, they trapped me. 185 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Yep. 186 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:49,620 Good job, guys. 187 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,160 I'll see y 'all in court. Oh, I thought your phone was dead. 188 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,000 Oh, your phone ain't dead no more, huh? 189 00:10:56,219 --> 00:10:59,620 Excellent. Everything about that is great, from the speed at which the 190 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:03,440 pulls away when he hears the word cops, to the cop's clear disappointment, to 191 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,140 the glee of the guy taunting them. 192 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,180 I honestly haven't been this delighted to see a cop on camera since that Boston 193 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:10,740 big boy zooted out of the slide. 194 00:11:15,820 --> 00:11:17,720 It's still so good. 195 00:11:17,980 --> 00:11:19,640 It will never not be good. 196 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,200 If I die with a smile on my face, you will know that that was the last thing I 197 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,300 saw. Call that video Paul Rudd, because it never gets old. 198 00:11:29,260 --> 00:11:33,040 But if it seems like the cops in that sting weren't so much stopping crime as 199 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,760 creating it, that's sort of the point here. And it's honestly the case with 200 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,740 of these operations than you might think. So given all that, tonight, let's 201 00:11:40,740 --> 00:11:41,740 at stings. 202 00:11:42,010 --> 00:11:45,870 Why police love them, how they use them, and who is paying the price. Let's 203 00:11:45,870 --> 00:11:47,550 start with how they became so popular. 204 00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:51,710 Stings really took off in the 1970s, as police shifted from primarily reacting 205 00:11:51,710 --> 00:11:56,010 to crime to trying to prevent it. That shift coincided with a string of Supreme 206 00:11:56,010 --> 00:11:59,510 Court decisions that expanded protections for defendants against 207 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:03,150 tactics, with things like the establishment of Miranda Wright. As one 208 00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:08,510 noted, as the police use of coercion has been restricted, their use of deception 209 00:12:08,510 --> 00:12:09,530 has increased. 210 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:14,400 The first large -scale sting operation began in 1975, and in it, DC police 211 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,360 created a fake mafia -run fencing operation to lure people into selling 212 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,640 stolen property. And officers really got into their role, giving themselves 213 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:28,660 quote -unquote Italian names like Angelo Lasagna and Rico Rigatoni. Here is a 214 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:32,780 photo of them. It is a picture that screams, the only Italian word I know is 215 00:12:32,780 --> 00:12:37,480 lasagna. They even padded out their backstory with lines like, we got a 216 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,720 the trunk, what do we do? 217 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,360 To which Rico Rigatoni would reply, toss him in the freeze. 218 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:46,640 They also offer targets meatballs, telling them, and I quote, you'll hurt 219 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,180 Pasquale's feeling if you no have a meatball. 220 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,980 Ultimately, they wrapped up the thing by inviting everyone who'd sold goods to 221 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:56,860 them to a giant party where a police sergeant played Don Corleone and had 222 00:12:56,860 --> 00:13:01,000 attendees kiss his ring as he told them they were under arrest, all while one 223 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,840 agent sang When the Moon Hits Your Eye Like a Big Piece of Pie as he put 224 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,000 handcuffs on them. And wow, that's a lot of stereotypes! 225 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,690 But that thing was viewed as such a success... the federal government 226 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:18,590 giving local police money to emulate it. And departments around the country 227 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:22,330 began doing their own versions. And the appeal of things was obvious. 228 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:27,790 As this news report from 1979 explains, catching people on tape makes for very 229 00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:28,830 easy prosecutions. 230 00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:33,030 Around the country, officials have had great success in court with Sting 231 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:37,370 evidence. In Memphis, all but eight of the 1 ,500 Sting defendants pleaded 232 00:13:37,370 --> 00:13:42,170 guilty. And every one of those who chose a trial was convicted when the jury saw 233 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:43,170 the tapes. 234 00:13:43,230 --> 00:13:46,650 Right, then that does make sense, doesn't it? Because once you have 235 00:13:46,650 --> 00:13:51,030 tape, it is usually pretty much game over, with one notable exception. 236 00:13:51,690 --> 00:13:55,410 And police have sometimes gotten way too into the plain dress -up part of 237 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:59,190 things. In Baton Rouge in the 90s, some cops wore blackface in a sting 238 00:13:59,190 --> 00:14:02,630 operation, bragging to local reporters, not only did they not know we're cops, 239 00:14:02,770 --> 00:14:04,390 they don't even know we're white. 240 00:14:04,590 --> 00:14:06,770 And first of all, oh yes they did. 241 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:10,690 No one in the history of blackface has ever pulled it off. 242 00:14:11,230 --> 00:14:14,570 But also, you just cannot convince me that a white cop could speak for more 243 00:14:14,570 --> 00:14:18,070 20 seconds without identifying himself as both white and a cop. 244 00:14:18,930 --> 00:14:23,230 And as things became more common, courts have been reluctant to set limits on 245 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:26,950 what police are allowed to do in them. As one analysis puts it, there are no 246 00:14:26,950 --> 00:14:30,250 clear legal limitations on the length of the operation, the intimacy of the 247 00:14:30,250 --> 00:14:33,470 relationships formed, the degree of deception used, the degree of temptation 248 00:14:33,470 --> 00:14:37,010 offered, and the number of times it is offered. All of which leaves the 249 00:14:37,010 --> 00:14:39,830 government with a nearly limitless ability to deceive. 250 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,980 And some law enforcement will take that as an opportunity to rack up easy 251 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:45,640 arrests and make some headlines. 252 00:14:45,940 --> 00:14:50,800 Take Sheriff Grady Judd in Florida. His department constantly boasting about 253 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,440 running online stings, often fishing for arrests concerning sex offences, with 254 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,780 flashy names like Cyber Guardian, Naughty Not Nice 2, and Child Protector 255 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:03,560 which sound less like police operations and more like Steven Seagal movies. 256 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:08,240 And while you'd hope they targeted predators looking to engage in criminal 257 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,240 activity, 258 00:15:09,420 --> 00:15:12,740 When a local station dug into the tactics Judge was using, they found that 259 00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:13,980 wasn't exactly the case. 260 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,620 You think you know how these things go down? 261 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,780 Cops post an ad for an underage teen, wait for predators to respond, then 262 00:15:21,780 --> 00:15:23,240 them when they show up in person. 263 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,540 If I had Grady's world? 264 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,960 They'd all go to prison. 265 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:29,780 But what so many of our local law enforcement leaders are not telling you 266 00:15:29,780 --> 00:15:32,860 that they've had to try harder and harder over the years to trick men into 267 00:15:32,860 --> 00:15:36,240 showing up. 10 Investigates has learned through court documents and arrest 268 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,700 reports that law enforcement is now reaching out themselves to young men who 269 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:43,420 nothing more than post an ad on a traditional dating site. 270 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,880 Cops form a rapport, then switch their age, and try to trick the sometimes 271 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,580 hesitant men to keep on talking. 272 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,720 They had me call them. I sat on the phone for... 273 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:58,660 An hour with a grown woman who was talking to me in a very seductive 274 00:15:58,980 --> 00:16:03,220 He was 22 when he had his first and only run -in with the law. He thought he was 275 00:16:03,220 --> 00:16:06,960 talking to a 26 -year -old online who even sent this photo, wedding ring and 276 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,100 all. But after baiting him in, she switched her age from 26 to 13. 277 00:16:11,580 --> 00:16:15,180 Joseph thought she had to have been kidding, so he took her up on her offer 278 00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:18,820 meet. I walked into a house and was thrown into handcuffs. He's serving two 279 00:16:18,820 --> 00:16:22,780 years of house arrest, then the equivalent of a life sentence, since 280 00:16:22,780 --> 00:16:24,120 labeled a sexual offender. 281 00:16:24,540 --> 00:16:29,220 That really doesn't feel like a slam dunk for justice there, does it? He 282 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:32,880 an ad online looking for an adult, then talked to an adult on an adult site. 283 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:37,240 and then got understandably confused when that adult suddenly reversed big to 284 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,500 themselves, especially given he'd already been sent this photo, which is 285 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:41,700 obviously of a grown woman. 286 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,700 Wedding ring aside, she's got the face of someone who knows what a Roth IRA is. 287 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:51,600 But while the crimes in these operations can be made up, the punishment can be 288 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,800 very real, and not just when it comes to sex things. The ADF for years did so 289 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,880 -called stash house. 290 00:16:57,130 --> 00:17:01,430 where basically undercover agents would recruit a group of people to rob a non 291 00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:05,310 -existent stash house full of drugs with the promise of huge amounts of money. 292 00:17:05,450 --> 00:17:08,490 Over the years, they arrested over a thousand people in these sorts of 293 00:17:08,550 --> 00:17:11,030 like these men who walked right into the trap. 294 00:17:11,710 --> 00:17:15,950 Stun grenades startled three young men near Chicago as police move in. They 295 00:17:15,950 --> 00:17:20,230 thought they were going to rob a drug stash house. Instead, they got busted. A 296 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:24,770 fake scenario set up by the ATF to get hardened criminals off the street. 297 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Yeah, they lured a bunch of people into a car under false pretenses and then 298 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,820 sprang a nasty surprise on them. It's almost as bad as accidentally hailing 299 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:37,520 cash cab under no circumstances, by the way. Do you hear me? The only way I'm 300 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,900 being transported in that thing is if you kill me and stuff me in the trunk. 301 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:46,190 And while police will claim things like those catch people who'd commit violent 302 00:17:46,190 --> 00:17:48,890 crimes anyway, I'm not so sure about that. 303 00:17:49,170 --> 00:17:52,670 Reporters looked into that case and found that this guy not only had no 304 00:17:52,670 --> 00:17:56,650 convictions for violent offences, he clearly didn't know what he was doing. 305 00:17:57,110 --> 00:18:01,730 USA Today found this small -time criminal in this case showed up with a 306 00:18:01,730 --> 00:18:06,790 gun and bullets that didn't fit. His punishment? Looking at 25 years in jail. 307 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:12,040 Apparently, that gun was so old it had been made sometime before World War I. 308 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,300 And a rusty old gun with bullets that don't fit clearly shouldn't justify 309 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:18,600 sending a man to prison for 25 years. 310 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,520 At best, it should be the comic relief character in a Pixar movie where a bunch 311 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,920 of talking guns learn the value of found family. 312 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:30,220 And the thing is, judges may not have a lot of room for leniency in cases like 313 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:34,180 that, thanks to mandatory minimum sentencing laws, which trigger based on 314 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:35,480 severity of the crime. 315 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,380 And because the ACF's making the crime up in the first place, they can make 316 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:43,820 it meets mandatory minimums by inventing drug amounts that trigger long 317 00:18:43,820 --> 00:18:47,480 sentences or pressuring targets into doing things that increase the penalty. 318 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,520 In one sting out of Wichita, ACF agents suggested a felon take a shotgun, saw it 319 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,200 off, and bring it back to them, even providing instructions on how to do it. 320 00:18:56,540 --> 00:19:00,180 That sawed -off gun then allowed them to charge the man with a more serious 321 00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:03,680 crime. And if you think, well, hold on, isn't all this entrapment? 322 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,280 You would think so. 323 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:09,640 But it turns out the legal bar for proving entrapment is incredibly high. 324 00:19:09,980 --> 00:19:13,220 One big reason is that in court, prosecutors simply have to show that 325 00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:14,380 doing something you'd have been... 326 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,140 predisposed to do anyway. And depending on your case, things like prior 327 00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:20,560 convictions and drug addiction could qualify. 328 00:19:21,020 --> 00:19:24,240 Often, all they have to show is that you were willing to commit the crime. 329 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:28,320 But a key reason people can be willing to do that is because they've just been 330 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,520 offered a lot of money, all of which makes you feel pretty predatory that 331 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,820 things can actively target low -income communities. 332 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:40,300 In California, a federal judge even accused ATF agents of trolling poor 333 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:41,880 neighborhoods for suspects. 334 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:45,370 Investigations have also found things disproportionately target minorities. 335 00:19:45,730 --> 00:19:49,390 Now, one that looked at seven years of stash house things in the greater 336 00:19:49,390 --> 00:19:54,490 area found that of the people charged in them, 92 % were black or Hispanic. 337 00:19:54,850 --> 00:19:58,690 And when a retired ATF agent was asked to explain why they chose certain areas, 338 00:19:58,890 --> 00:20:00,570 his answer wasn't great. 339 00:20:01,170 --> 00:20:05,470 Why do a stash house investigation in Englewood as opposed to some other 340 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:07,710 Well, we don't. We don't. 341 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:11,570 Anywhere that we find that there's people that are willing to participate 342 00:20:11,570 --> 00:20:14,050 that level of violence, those are people we're going to want to talk to. 343 00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:18,290 Again, this is a kill or be killed proposition. It doesn't matter if you're 344 00:20:18,290 --> 00:20:24,950 Englewood, the West Side, Detroit, New Orleans, anywhere. Any 345 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:29,150 community where we can find those violent people within that community, 346 00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:30,430 we'll provide them with this opportunity. 347 00:20:30,970 --> 00:20:35,170 Huh. What a fascinating off the top of your head list that was. 348 00:20:35,950 --> 00:20:40,230 Englewood, the West Side, Detroit, or New Orleans. All fun fact, majority 349 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:43,790 areas. He's only one step away from adding Wakanda to that list. 350 00:20:44,770 --> 00:20:48,370 And disproportionate targeting has been baked into Sting's from the very 351 00:20:48,370 --> 00:20:51,070 beginning. Remember the fake mafia guys buying fenced goods? 352 00:20:51,310 --> 00:20:55,670 It rounded up about 120 people, although most were not experienced traffickers, 353 00:20:55,790 --> 00:20:59,230 but unemployed black men who'd heard about the high prices being offered at 354 00:20:59,230 --> 00:21:01,530 warehouse and had decided to steal something. 355 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,720 Flash forward to 2018 and law enforcement in Chicago were using a bait 356 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,200 that they filled with Nike sneakers and parked in an impoverished neighbourhood, 357 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:13,240 something that justifiably infuriated community members. 358 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Instead of y 'all chasing crime, you trying to create crime. 359 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:21,480 On this YouTube video posted by anti -crime activist Charles McKenzie, 360 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:27,160 residents call that entrapment. Y 'all baiting out y 'all kids. I think 361 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,620 this is bogus and y 'all sitting here trapping black kids. 362 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:38,220 It's real crimes being committed. Why do you got to do this? Put this in your 363 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:39,220 name. 364 00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:43,780 Yeah, fair point. I know it's a little hard to tell what the cop dropped on the 365 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:46,420 ground there, but from context, I'm going to just guess it's his dignity. 366 00:21:46,780 --> 00:21:51,880 But it is not just racial or economic targeting. Things can also sweep up 367 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,220 who might be easier for cops to manipulate due to mental illness or 368 00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:59,160 Just look at these parents of an autistic teenager in California tell the 369 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,840 of how some happy news from school quickly took a turn for the worse. 370 00:22:03,340 --> 00:22:07,780 He told me that he met a new friend in art class and I was completely amazed by 371 00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:12,540 that. It seemed like they were having these great conversations back and forth 372 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:14,960 or what seemed typical for a teenager because... 373 00:22:15,530 --> 00:22:19,450 There was such a furious amount of texting going on. But those texts 374 00:22:19,450 --> 00:22:23,510 just friendly teenage banter. Instead, their son's new friend was pressuring 375 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:24,510 to buy marijuana. 376 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:26,170 And this new friend wasn't just a teenager. 377 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:30,430 He was an undercover cop who went by the name of Daniel Briggs. It took the 378 00:22:30,430 --> 00:22:34,310 Snodgrass's son three weeks to buy half a joint of pot off a homeless man. 379 00:22:34,510 --> 00:22:38,730 A few weeks later, armed policemen walked into his classroom and arrested 380 00:22:38,730 --> 00:22:39,709 front of his peers. 381 00:22:39,710 --> 00:22:43,310 Twenty -two students were arrested in the drug sting. Most of them were 382 00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:44,310 needs students. 383 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:46,300 That is appalling. 384 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,180 And for what it's worth, their son only got the joint because his cop friend 385 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:53,740 told him he was always in trouble with his strict mom and was super stressed. 386 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,040 That's why he really needed it. So it seems that cop was truly living by Mr. 387 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:02,060 Rogers' famous advice, look for the helpers so you can arrest them for weed 388 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:07,060 possession. And in the sign of just how much the media uncritically lapped these 389 00:23:07,060 --> 00:23:11,080 stories up, this is how those arrests got covered on the local news. 390 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:15,500 Riverside County Sheriff's deputies have smashed an illegal drug ring operating 391 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:20,140 out of three high schools in Temecula. 22 students were taken into custody. 392 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,840 It was like 21 Jump Street. 393 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,060 Deputies say during the investigation they seized all types of drugs, meth, 394 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,240 cocaine, LSD and ecstasy. 395 00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:32,400 Chaparral High School also had students escorted by police off campus. This 396 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,640 picture shows one of five arrests made there. 397 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:39,140 That kid on the screen there was the one who spent weeks trying to buy half a 398 00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:41,180 joint for his friend because he was worried about it. 399 00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:46,090 But I can see why the news didn't lead with that angle. Cops bust massive drug 400 00:23:46,090 --> 00:23:50,250 ring is a much cooler story than cops manipulate, flash arrest autistic teeth. 401 00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:55,050 And it goes way beyond school drug busts. An investigation into another ATF 402 00:23:55,050 --> 00:23:58,910 practice of setting up fake stores to buy drugs and guns found them repeatedly 403 00:23:58,910 --> 00:24:00,330 manipulating people with disabilities. 404 00:24:00,550 --> 00:24:05,310 In one case, agents set up a fake smoke shop in Portland and paid a 19 -year 405 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:09,170 -old who was mentally disabled and his friend to promote their store by, and 406 00:24:09,170 --> 00:24:13,470 this is true, getting a large tattoo on their necks of the fake shop's emblem, 407 00:24:13,650 --> 00:24:19,210 which was a giant squid smoking a joint, which is utterly despicable. And when a 408 00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:23,440 judge later... If I'd promoted a government lawyer for that, I'd argue 409 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,420 it in far too casual a manner. 410 00:24:25,820 --> 00:24:29,300 But the agent, it was government money that was used to pay for the tattoo? 411 00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:30,580 I believe so. 412 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:35,840 Could you send a message back to, which agency was doing it? 413 00:24:36,060 --> 00:24:39,560 Idea. That it's really a bad idea. 414 00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:44,480 Nothing unlawful about it, but not a good idea. 415 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,220 Not a good idea? Look. 416 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,340 There is a time to be polite, but finding out agents just use taxpayer 417 00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:55,000 tattoo a teen with mental disabilities is not it. In fact, I looked up that 418 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,820 exact situation in Emily Post's book of etiquette, and her advice just says, 419 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,140 fuck those fuckers sideways with a rusty fork. I didn't say that, Emily Post 420 00:25:02,140 --> 00:25:03,980 did, so you know it's official. 421 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,560 And if it wasn't enough for cops to prey on disabled or desperate people, there 422 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,980 is one more way they can make things easy on themselves with things, and that 423 00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:14,640 by using confidential informants, or CIs. 424 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,980 Basically, people they convince to go undercover on their behalf, sometimes by 425 00:25:18,980 --> 00:25:22,720 paying them, but often by taking people they've already arrested and pressuring 426 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,260 them to work as CIs to obtain their freedom. 427 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:30,900 As this ex -cop readily explains, using these sources can really speed things up 428 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:32,060 when it comes to making a case. 429 00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:36,720 If you had not been able personally to use confidential informants... 430 00:25:37,230 --> 00:25:38,750 Would you have been as effective? 431 00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:43,130 Nowhere near as effective. You really feel you need this? Oh, I know I would 432 00:25:43,130 --> 00:25:48,250 not. I may have to watch a house for days or weeks to establish probable 433 00:25:48,510 --> 00:25:51,690 My informant goes in and makes a buy out of it, and I have my probable cause in 434 00:25:51,690 --> 00:25:52,649 five minutes. 435 00:25:52,650 --> 00:25:56,930 Look, I will concede, that man in particular is going to have a hard time 436 00:25:56,930 --> 00:26:01,230 undercover, because if you showed me that guy and gave me three guesses what 437 00:26:01,230 --> 00:26:05,890 does for a living, they'd be in order. Cop, cop, and guy who plays cop in porn. 438 00:26:07,630 --> 00:26:11,630 And the appeal to police in CIs is obvious. They're people who may already 439 00:26:11,630 --> 00:26:14,990 known and trusted in their community, and crucially, as civilians, they're 440 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:19,630 subject to even fewer rules and restrictions than cops regarding conduct 441 00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:24,270 an investigation. But there are some obvious issues here. First, because CIs 442 00:26:24,270 --> 00:26:27,310 be paid or working under the threat of jail time, they can be under huge 443 00:26:27,310 --> 00:26:31,690 pressure to produce whatever info cops need, whether it is reliable or not, 444 00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:34,010 meaning they might well fabricate information. 445 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:38,600 Also, cops can look the other way at crimes their CIs have committed or even 446 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,580 continue to commit while they are working for them. And finally, if you're 447 00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:45,340 thinking pressuring untrained civilians into doing the job of undercover cops 448 00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:48,280 feels like it could end badly, you're right about that. 449 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:52,340 There have been multiple stories of CIs being assaulted or murdered in the 450 00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:55,640 course of working for the police. In fact, as this expert points out, there 451 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,860 a whole host of issues CIs raise, but the limited nature of disclosure on 452 00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:03,180 operations means we don't know the full extent of any of them. 453 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,940 There is no law enforcement entity or official in this country that knows how 454 00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:16,440 many informants there are, how many crimes they solve, and how many crimes 455 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,380 tolerated by law enforcement by the informants that they run. 456 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,360 Exactly. And it is probably not a great sign that we have less information about 457 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:29,080 confidential informants than we do about how many toilets Meghan Trainor and her 458 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,180 spy kid husband have. 459 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:33,130 And it's not just information on confidentiality. You know what? I don't 460 00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:34,210 was actually clear about that. They have two. 461 00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:39,410 They have two toilets right next to each other so they can piss and presumably 462 00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:44,210 shit together without breaking eye contact. That is from their old house 463 00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:48,710 since moved and are opting for a, quote, knees -to -knees set -up. Yeah. 464 00:27:49,150 --> 00:27:53,290 I don't like knowing this about them either, but at least we're on the same 465 00:27:53,290 --> 00:27:54,290 now. 466 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Anyway, it's not just information on confidential informants. Public data on 467 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,880 things in general is extremely limited, partly because they're usually not 468 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,200 subject to public disclosure laws. And that, mixed with a near limitless 469 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,760 for cops to target anyone they want, is a truly dangerous combination. 470 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,700 And if you want to see everything that we've discussed tonight in one place, 471 00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:15,800 just look at counter -terrorism things. 472 00:28:16,170 --> 00:28:19,970 After 9 -11, the FBI went hard in trying to preemptively stop the next big 473 00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:20,709 terror attack. 474 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:24,810 One hallmark of this involves things targeted at Muslim communities. 475 00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:27,210 And these cases resulted in a lot of convictions. 476 00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:31,710 A survey two years ago found that out of 992 terrorism defendants since 9 -11, 477 00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:35,990 just three have been acquitted and four have seen their charges dropped or 478 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:39,310 dismissed, giving the Justice Department a near perfect record of conviction 479 00:28:39,310 --> 00:28:41,070 when it comes to terrorism cases. 480 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:43,690 But that same report... 481 00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:47,660 also found that the majority of defendants had no direct connection to 482 00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:51,980 organisations at all, and over a third had been caught up in FBI things. 483 00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:56,800 And some of those were incredibly dicey. Like the case of these four men in 484 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,540 Newburgh, New York, who the FBI claimed planned to attack synagogues and an 485 00:29:00,540 --> 00:29:04,160 airport. And at the time, they trumpeted the arrests as a huge deal. 486 00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:08,710 We have breaking news. The FBI says it has thwarted a terror plot. 487 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:13,310 Federal investigators say the suspects are four men with a shared hatred for 488 00:29:13,310 --> 00:29:18,230 America. According to the FBI, the four men intended to carry out their plan 489 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:24,850 today. The good news here is that our FBI and our NYPD did a very, very good 490 00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:31,190 job. The fact that we've been able to penetrate these groups early on, they 491 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:32,910 being monitored for close to a year. 492 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,720 a textbook example of how a major investigation should be conducted. 493 00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:43,900 That sounds pretty impressive, doesn't it? But you should know, while friend of 494 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:47,500 the Bailey's Chuck Schumer there was bragging that the FBI was able to 495 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:51,640 the group very early on, the reason for that is they're the ones who put the 496 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,740 group together in the first place. The entire plan was concocted by the FBI. So 497 00:29:56,740 --> 00:30:00,540 I guess it really was textbook if the textbook was called How to Solve Crimes 498 00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:01,880 When You're the One Doing Them. 499 00:30:02,430 --> 00:30:05,790 The truth is, none of the four men arrested were militants. They were, 500 00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:09,510 impoverished individuals, one of whom had severe mental health issues. They 501 00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:13,610 recruited by an informant who promised them huge financial inducements to carry 502 00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:17,810 out the plot, including $250 ,000, free holidays and expensive cars. 503 00:30:18,010 --> 00:30:21,550 And that informant then did everything for the men, from getting them missiles 504 00:30:21,550 --> 00:30:24,530 and bombs to teaching them the tenets of radical Islam. 505 00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:28,590 One of their attorneys actually summed up the whole situation pretty 506 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,060 The government conceded a trial that these four defendants never had a plan, 507 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:39,240 never had done this before, had no technology ability to this, had no 508 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,960 these kind of weapons, had no access to the money to make these kind of bombs, 509 00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:47,120 had no access to terrorists to come up with the ideas, had no access to 510 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,120 anything. 511 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:50,100 Even cars. 512 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:54,120 These four defendants were no more capable of firing a Stinger missile or 513 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,120 creating a bomb than, you know. 514 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,260 Tony the Tiger could make a bomb and frost his lights bulbs. 515 00:31:00,820 --> 00:31:06,160 Yeah, that is both infuriating and completely true, right up to his claim 516 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,860 Tony the Tiger. Because I know this isn't the point. Tony the Tiger is a 517 00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:12,780 fictional character. Therefore, in his world, he is capable of anything, 518 00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:15,400 including bomb making. Now, do I believe... 519 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,820 The good folks at Kellogg would put a bomb maker on their cereal box? No. 520 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,100 But could Tony conceptually build a bomb in the universe he inhabits? Of course 521 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,180 he could. And by that logic, you can make the case that he was actually more 522 00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:32,080 equipped to do terrorism than these people the FBI railroaded for no fucking 523 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,080 reason. 524 00:31:33,370 --> 00:31:37,910 Ultimately, the men were sentenced in 2011 to a mandatory minimum of 25 years 525 00:31:37,910 --> 00:31:41,690 prison. Although, three years ago, the judge in their case granted a motion for 526 00:31:41,690 --> 00:31:45,470 compassionate release, calling their conduct heinous, but acknowledging the 527 00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:47,750 lead conspirator was the United States. 528 00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:51,550 Which, depressingly, is pretty much modern world history in a sentence. 529 00:31:52,170 --> 00:31:56,590 And you can see just how tempting it is for law enforcement to do this, 530 00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:59,550 especially whenever there is a panic about a certain population. 531 00:32:00,010 --> 00:32:01,670 More recently, it has been immigrants. 532 00:32:02,270 --> 00:32:04,990 You may remember when Trump and the media were freaking out about that video 533 00:32:04,990 --> 00:32:09,170 that supposedly proved trend Aragua gangs were taking over Colorado 534 00:32:09,170 --> 00:32:11,850 complexes. It was undeniably a frightening image. 535 00:32:12,150 --> 00:32:16,590 And in the wake of that, the ATF ran a sting operation in that town with 536 00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:20,230 undercover agents offering large sums of money to Venezuelan immigrants to 537 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:24,110 procure them guns and drugs. And last summer, DOJ officials called a press 538 00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:25,790 conference to proudly show off the results. 539 00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:30,670 In a matter of minutes, we learned this was far more than a news conference 540 00:32:30,670 --> 00:32:31,670 about arrests. 541 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,680 drugs, and guns. 542 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,960 The 10 -month undercover operation produced 30 arrests, including three 543 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,500 described as TDA leaders, along with five other alleged TDA members. The 544 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,780 labeled as actively involved in TDA criminal activity. 545 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,640 TDA has brought its terrorism to the United States. TDA is real, it is 546 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,600 dangerous, and we have made prosecuting TDA a priority in the District of 547 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,800 Colorado. Okay, so there is a lot to unpack there, from the elaborate work 548 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,280 went into their massive gun diorama, to what is in those baggies, because it 549 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,000 looks to me like Pink Panther jizz. But the thing is, as one reporter since put 550 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,880 it, the results of that thing in court have failed to back up the hype, 551 00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:17,270 because... Finally suggest most of the people charged weren't actually gang 552 00:33:17,270 --> 00:33:20,170 members at all, but a loose collection of impoverished and desperate immigrants 553 00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:21,790 drawn in by offers of cash. 554 00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:26,090 In fact, when it comes to those firearms, it's worth knowing many of the 555 00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:29,310 and guns weren't in the defenders' possession before the government got 556 00:33:29,310 --> 00:33:33,210 involved. So the Feds basically dangled money in front of a bunch of desperate 557 00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:36,050 people, said, go get us guns, and they did it. 558 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:39,630 And all that really proves... is that for enough money, you can basically get 559 00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:40,650 people to do anything. 560 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:44,230 Which, not for nothing, was, I believe, also the official slogan of the Riyadh 561 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:45,230 Comedy Festival. 562 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:52,590 The point here is, the long history of police things has far too often left us 563 00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:56,810 with a bunch of fake crimes from manufactured criminals resulting in very 564 00:33:56,810 --> 00:34:01,070 punishments. And look, I am not saying the crimes you've seen people arrested 565 00:34:01,070 --> 00:34:03,170 for tonight don't happen. Of course they do. 566 00:34:03,530 --> 00:34:07,070 People do sell drugs in schools, traffic guns, planned terror attacks, and 567 00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:09,949 molest children, and those crimes should be investigated. 568 00:34:10,489 --> 00:34:15,150 The problem with stings is they're an easy way for police to rack up arrests 569 00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:19,190 sell the illusion that they're addressing these crimes, even when that 570 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:20,190 actually be the case. 571 00:34:20,510 --> 00:34:24,110 Remember that county in Florida where Grady Judd loves to hold press 572 00:34:24,110 --> 00:34:25,350 about his online sex things? 573 00:34:25,770 --> 00:34:29,909 It's currently being sued by this woman, who came to them at age 12, because 574 00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:32,489 she'd been sexually abused by her adoptive father for years. 575 00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:36,550 The investigation by Judge Department was an absolute disgrace. 576 00:34:37,090 --> 00:34:41,030 The detective who handled her case failed to collect key evidence and, as 577 00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:44,130 supervisor later wrote, conducted an interview of the girl using 578 00:34:44,130 --> 00:34:45,370 questions and statements. 579 00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:49,750 Judge Department ultimately wound up charging the girl with giving false 580 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:52,570 information to a law enforcement officer for which she was placed on probation 581 00:34:52,570 --> 00:34:57,670 and also made to write these letters of apology to both her abuser and the 582 00:34:57,670 --> 00:35:01,050 sheriff's office. It was only after she was abused again... 583 00:35:01,340 --> 00:35:04,400 during which she had the presence of mind to take photos and video of the 584 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,260 incident on her phone, that her abuser was finally arrested and sentenced to 17 585 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:11,560 years in prison, which is clearly infuriating. 586 00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:14,740 She basically had to do that department's work for them. 587 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,760 And it makes you think that maybe Grady Judd's office would have been a little 588 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,460 better at protecting an actual child if they weren't spending all day pretending 589 00:35:22,460 --> 00:35:23,580 to be one online. 590 00:35:24,340 --> 00:35:28,600 Now, Judd never responded to us when we asked him about this, but apparently, I 591 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,600 still have to tell you... 592 00:35:29,950 --> 00:35:32,470 that they've called that woman's lawsuit frivolous and baseless. 593 00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:33,770 And I don't know, man. 594 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:38,290 When you've made a literal child write a letter of apology to her rapist, I 595 00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:42,290 wouldn't be throwing the word frivolous around. I might just shut the fuck up 596 00:35:42,290 --> 00:35:46,850 about everything for the rest of my fucking life. But I guess reasonable 597 00:35:46,850 --> 00:35:48,750 can agree to disagree then. 598 00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:54,370 And when you put all this together, it's hard not to conclude that things might 599 00:35:54,370 --> 00:35:58,070 actually be doing more harm than good. So, what do we do? 600 00:35:58,510 --> 00:36:02,430 Well, I would argue at the very least, cops should be doing much less of them, 601 00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:06,210 and ideally, none of the stings where the goal is basically find anybody for 602 00:36:06,210 --> 00:36:10,430 anything. As one expert put it, if we're going to do stings, they should be 603 00:36:10,430 --> 00:36:14,170 narrowly focused on individuals who law enforcement have credible evidence may 604 00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:17,930 be planning to commit a serious or violent crime imminently, or who've 605 00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:22,770 done so and are planning to do so again, which seems right to me, because as it 606 00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:26,770 stands, police seem utterly addicted to stings, even though, for what it's 607 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:30,460 worth, Making up imaginary crimes and arresting people for them isn't law 608 00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:31,920 enforcement. It is theatre. 609 00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:37,100 In fact, the one reform that might actually be within all our control right 610 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:40,600 is to try and remember that we are all the audience for that theatre. 611 00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:45,780 So if you are serving on a jury, or work in the media, or you see a story on TV 612 00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:49,500 about a sting operation, it's worth questioning what role law enforcement 613 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:52,440 in creating the crime that they just supposedly stopped. 614 00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,280 Honestly, we first started looking at this story a few years ago, and it has 615 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,080 changed... how I viewed every Sting story that's made headlines since. 616 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,420 Remember when that group of men were arrested for trying to kidnap Gretchen 617 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:07,400 Whitmer? Guess how many confidential informants seemed to help that plot 618 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:10,440 I'll give you a clue. It is a lot more than you would like. 619 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:15,100 And you don't have to sympathise with these men or agree with their views to 620 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:18,500 wonder if that plan could have even gotten off the ground if there hadn't 621 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,500 as many as a dozen confidential informants involved and two undercover 622 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,780 agents. The point here is... 623 00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:28,540 Cops have been getting away with bullshit things for far too long. And we 624 00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:30,220 cannot let this slide anymore. 625 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,480 In fact, there's really only one type of cop sliding that I am completely on 626 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,480 board with. 627 00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:38,440 And I think we all know what it is. 628 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:47,920 Fuck you, Paul Thomas Anderson. That is the best picture of any goddamn year 629 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,738 right there. 630 00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:51,720 That is our show. Thanks so much for watching. We'll see you next week. Good 631 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:52,720 night. 632 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,840 Thank you. 60630

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