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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:57,800 What happens when you go on a journey 2 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,200 into your life, visiting places and people you 3 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,520 hadn't seen for a long time? 4 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:04,459 I had no idea. 5 00:01:28,290 --> 00:01:29,390 I am Rick. 6 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:31,590 You must be Rick. 7 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:33,490 I am, I am, and I know who 8 00:01:33,490 --> 00:01:34,050 you are. 9 00:01:34,210 --> 00:01:35,630 It's wonderful to meet you. 10 00:01:36,170 --> 00:01:37,850 You're a legend in this town. 11 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:41,050 Well, let's get to it. 12 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:43,410 Starts with the year 16. 13 00:01:43,650 --> 00:01:44,410 Year 16. 14 00:01:44,690 --> 00:01:45,750 That's a Ringo song. 15 00:01:46,070 --> 00:01:46,930 Year 16. 16 00:01:47,130 --> 00:01:48,050 Thank you very much. 17 00:01:49,570 --> 00:01:49,890 Great. 18 00:01:51,610 --> 00:01:52,170 Wonderful. 19 00:01:54,010 --> 00:01:55,210 And what's the next one? 20 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:56,850 Next one is short people. 21 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:58,010 Oh, okay. 22 00:01:58,890 --> 00:02:00,090 Good friend Randy? 23 00:02:00,510 --> 00:02:01,150 Yes. 24 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,120 How are you? 25 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Sweetheart. 26 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,520 Hello. 27 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:25,140 Hi. 28 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Good. 29 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,080 Come on in here. 30 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,520 Okay. 31 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,660 Welcome, welcome. 32 00:02:31,820 --> 00:02:32,580 Very nice. 33 00:02:32,940 --> 00:02:36,220 I think that Klaus was immediately in Los 34 00:02:36,220 --> 00:02:36,620 Angeles. 35 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,900 He came right in and fit incredibly into 36 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:43,820 the studio environment, but there was nothing suggesting 37 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:45,240 like he was a joiner. 38 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,640 It wasn't even thinkable that somebody would go 39 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:51,780 into music to make money, to be in 40 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:53,740 a room playing with people. 41 00:02:55,060 --> 00:02:58,700 That was quite a blessing for all of 42 00:02:58,700 --> 00:02:58,820 us. 43 00:02:58,860 --> 00:02:59,880 That's why we came here. 44 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:01,980 Will you forgive my dog? 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,240 I do, I do. 46 00:03:03,340 --> 00:03:04,180 He's Jubal. 47 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,980 He wants to be a biped. 48 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Jubal wants to be in the movies. 49 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,340 He wants to be a biped, but he's 50 00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:13,660 very ashamed about being a quadruped. 51 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,260 Ooh, ooh, the microphone he wants to eat. 52 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,260 Jubal, shh. 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,340 It's okay, darling. 54 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:22,940 It's all part of God's great universe, kid. 55 00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:23,620 Get used to it. 56 00:03:23,620 --> 00:03:24,920 Have you seen Dr. Too Little? 57 00:03:26,220 --> 00:03:26,880 Well, not recently. 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,360 Don't pass a dog in it like this. 59 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:29,080 Cut this out. 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,580 Hey, where's the ball? 61 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:31,100 Here's the ball. 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Oh, yes, I have the ball. 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Sally, I think Jubal wants to repair to 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,280 the outside to go have a conversation with 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,060 Mr. Squirrel. 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Klaus was the bass player of the time. 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,740 He was like the first call. 68 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:52,960 That's all there is to it. 69 00:03:53,140 --> 00:03:55,740 See, now, I'm telling you, man, this is 70 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:58,020 called music production 101. 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,000 It's the most important thing. 72 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,420 This is the lead sheet, which we intend 73 00:04:03,420 --> 00:04:05,880 to ignore, but we first have to learn 74 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,100 it. 75 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:09,800 Man, it's been a productive day already. 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,920 I feel very honoured to be able to 77 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,200 put Randy Newman's music together. 78 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,380 That's three. 79 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,340 Are you going to see him any time 80 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:24,100 soon? 81 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:24,960 Who? 82 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:25,760 Ringo. 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,540 He's going to come to the session. 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Excellent. 85 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,780 He doesn't have much time, which I didn't 86 00:04:32,780 --> 00:04:35,440 know, but I understand it, because he's got 87 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,960 his whole family together, and he doesn't see 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,520 them very often. 89 00:04:39,860 --> 00:04:40,300 Yeah, of course not. 90 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:40,980 And he wants to know. 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,460 Absolutely. 92 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:47,000 To celebrate my 70th birthday, we thought it 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,040 would be a good idea to make a 94 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,400 record with my friends. 95 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:54,100 When I arrived at Blue Palm Studios, I 96 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:56,120 wasn't sure who was going to turn up. 97 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:58,920 This is Graham. 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,820 How are you? 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,340 It's great to meet you. 100 00:05:01,540 --> 00:05:02,380 This is fantastic. 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,620 Thanks for having me. 102 00:05:03,780 --> 00:05:04,040 Thank you for coming. 103 00:05:04,420 --> 00:05:06,560 And can you put a Band-Aid on 104 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:06,660 him? 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,480 Oh, Mr. Volman. 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Hi, guys. 107 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,300 All right, motherfuckers, let's go. 108 00:05:16,860 --> 00:05:19,500 When I got into playing rock and roll, 109 00:05:19,940 --> 00:05:22,740 it was like a must. 110 00:05:23,420 --> 00:05:25,280 I couldn't stop myself. 111 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:26,300 The stops? 112 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:26,620 Yeah. 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:26,840 Okay. 114 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,940 Well, sometimes we rock right through it. 115 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:09,610 It's hard to follow it, though, just with 116 00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:10,010 the piano. 117 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:12,330 You didn't make a mistake. 118 00:06:12,430 --> 00:06:13,290 You were perfectly right. 119 00:06:13,570 --> 00:06:15,610 That's one thing where Bandai did a funny 120 00:06:15,610 --> 00:06:16,510 thing with the beat. 121 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:18,450 We worked together a lot because he's a 122 00:06:18,450 --> 00:06:20,270 good friend, and he actually was living with 123 00:06:20,270 --> 00:06:21,550 George Harrison and I. 124 00:06:21,890 --> 00:06:23,250 So we had to keep him busy. 125 00:06:25,130 --> 00:06:27,430 But the other thing people may not know 126 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:30,390 is that when, in the 70s, when we 127 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:33,070 were recording together, we had to put Klaus 128 00:06:33,070 --> 00:06:33,890 by the door. 129 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:36,370 Because if the union came in, he had 130 00:06:36,370 --> 00:06:36,890 to run out. 131 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:39,730 As we couldn't have him because he wasn't 132 00:06:39,730 --> 00:06:40,250 in the union. 133 00:06:41,410 --> 00:06:42,710 I was hiding, yeah. 134 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:44,490 So that's why he's still by the door. 135 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:47,190 I want to hear it. 136 00:06:47,410 --> 00:06:48,630 Two, three, four! 137 00:07:03,190 --> 00:07:05,350 Whenever I hear this song, I think of 138 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:07,270 the old days in Hamburg with the Beatles. 139 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:11,970 With this painting, I tried to capture the 140 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:14,150 atmosphere in the Top Ten Club where the 141 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:15,010 Beatles were playing. 142 00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:18,430 It's one of those early morning moods. 143 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:21,690 Suddenly somebody opens the door, and the sunlight 144 00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:22,390 comes in. 145 00:07:23,530 --> 00:07:26,710 We'd always seen his drawings, and we always 146 00:07:26,710 --> 00:07:27,930 liked his style. 147 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:32,190 I'm not sure how the idea came about, 148 00:07:32,270 --> 00:07:34,650 but it was like, would you see if 149 00:07:34,650 --> 00:07:35,590 you can come up with a cover? 150 00:07:35,690 --> 00:07:36,710 I'm not sure who asked him. 151 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:39,810 John called me and said, Klaus, do you 152 00:07:39,810 --> 00:07:40,410 have an idea? 153 00:07:40,410 --> 00:07:42,270 He asked me to come to the studio 154 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:43,550 and listen to the tracks. 155 00:07:44,310 --> 00:07:45,110 I was overwhelmed. 156 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:46,470 It was so beautiful. 157 00:07:47,130 --> 00:07:48,390 Such fantastic music. 158 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:51,430 Again, another step in a new direction. 159 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:53,310 It was really mind-blowing. 160 00:07:53,590 --> 00:07:55,870 At the same time, it was groundbreaking. 161 00:07:56,910 --> 00:07:59,150 That's what I was trying to capture on 162 00:07:59,150 --> 00:07:59,630 this cover. 163 00:08:00,070 --> 00:08:02,210 When I was finished with it, I went 164 00:08:02,210 --> 00:08:03,270 up to EMI. 165 00:08:04,330 --> 00:08:07,590 I put it up somewhere on the shelf. 166 00:08:08,210 --> 00:08:10,530 I was silent in the room. 167 00:08:12,410 --> 00:08:13,810 I was shaking. 168 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:15,830 I thought they don't like it or something. 169 00:08:15,910 --> 00:08:17,290 It was a really awful moment. 170 00:08:17,910 --> 00:08:19,770 Then Paul came up and said, what's this? 171 00:08:19,970 --> 00:08:21,290 Me in this corner. 172 00:08:21,410 --> 00:08:23,750 There was a photo of Paul sitting on 173 00:08:23,750 --> 00:08:24,190 the toilet. 174 00:08:25,090 --> 00:08:26,830 He said, look at me on the toilet. 175 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:29,010 Then George Martin came and said, you can't 176 00:08:29,010 --> 00:08:29,530 do the Klaus. 177 00:08:29,690 --> 00:08:30,690 You have to take this off. 178 00:08:33,409 --> 00:08:35,370 Eventually I did this, but I was so 179 00:08:35,370 --> 00:08:37,190 happy because the ice was broken. 180 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:40,450 They came into details and started talking about 181 00:08:40,450 --> 00:08:40,830 it. 182 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:58,500 Very exciting to see the drawing. 183 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:01,240 It was like, wow, what a great cover. 184 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,700 That made me happy, really happy. 185 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:06,800 Because the Beatles were spending so much time 186 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,020 getting famous and going around the world and 187 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:11,460 making records and stuff, the people we'd known 188 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:13,940 all of that time were very special to 189 00:09:13,940 --> 00:09:15,920 us just because we'd known them so long 190 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,900 and they were dear friends. 191 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Klaus was one of those. 192 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:21,460 We didn't always have that much time together, 193 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,780 but you knew that whenever you did get 194 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:25,960 some time, it would be good time because 195 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,440 of all the memories and because of the 196 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,320 things we shared. 197 00:09:29,580 --> 00:09:34,220 He's very much our type of person. 198 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,100 I had my life and they had theirs. 199 00:09:36,620 --> 00:09:39,440 But when we were together somewhere, it was 200 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,620 always like the old days. 201 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,820 Hamburg was a lot of change. 202 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:05,760 When we started going down to the Kaiserkeller 203 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,660 and I met the Beatles, they were little 204 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:11,300 boys, no money, no nothing. 205 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,900 And I looked up to that band from 206 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:16,000 that moment on. 207 00:10:16,420 --> 00:10:19,920 When I saw Paul sing, this charisma he 208 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,440 was spreading, the way John was singing, and 209 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,780 George with his little song, and those people 210 00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:28,100 together just was fantastic. 211 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:30,700 And then later Ringo joined them. 212 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,480 I mean, we had our little crew of 213 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:32,720 people. 214 00:10:32,860 --> 00:10:33,660 We loved them. 215 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:36,740 But in those days, nobody really knew and 216 00:10:36,740 --> 00:10:38,880 I couldn't wait for them to be famous. 217 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:57,140 We had a little trepidation to go there 218 00:10:57,140 --> 00:10:58,520 because it's a dangerous area. 219 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,840 Only rockers were in that area. 220 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,060 And then types like us, they're called X's. 221 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,380 It's a short form for existentialists. 222 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,740 We looked different to everybody. 223 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,240 The club, you had all those people in 224 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,620 their leather jackets and leather boots. 225 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:21,100 I remember seeing them coming in. 226 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,420 They'd wander in, they'd listen to the music, 227 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,240 and they'd sit down. 228 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,020 And they looked very cool, you know, they 229 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:29,060 looked quite mysterious. 230 00:11:29,060 --> 00:11:33,940 Long black scarves knitted by Astrid and our 231 00:11:33,940 --> 00:11:34,900 suede jackets. 232 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:38,420 We looked more like those French avant-garde 233 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:38,800 people. 234 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,480 I was, of course, fascinated by the Beatles, 235 00:11:40,780 --> 00:11:43,500 but what excited me the most was this 236 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:45,640 sexual atmosphere in that club. 237 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,780 Oh, ain't she sweet To see her walking 238 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:54,840 down that street Well, I ask you very 239 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:01,260 confidently Ain't she sweet On that day, we 240 00:12:01,260 --> 00:12:02,780 were in the Kaiserkeller every night. 241 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,180 The influence that we had on the boys 242 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:40,760 only showed much later. 243 00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:43,260 I would say when you had the Beatles 244 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:46,020 for sale, for example, and they had those 245 00:12:46,020 --> 00:12:49,020 scarves and their hair was really so loose, 246 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,080 then they sort of were at the point 247 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,340 we were when we were in Hamburg. 248 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:55,560 They were sort of the original inspiration for 249 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:55,800 that. 250 00:12:56,020 --> 00:12:58,640 You know, Jürgen actually was the one who 251 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,220 cut me and John's hair in Paris years 252 00:13:01,220 --> 00:13:01,580 later. 253 00:13:01,580 --> 00:13:05,180 Sex, it was only sex, because they know 254 00:13:05,180 --> 00:13:08,340 that the girls they liked, just like my 255 00:13:08,340 --> 00:13:10,620 girlfriend Alice, they didn't go for those kind 256 00:13:10,620 --> 00:13:12,380 of teddy bears, they called it, you know, 257 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,840 leather jackets and Elvis cut. 258 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:17,360 They wanted people like me, you know, artistic 259 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,220 types. 260 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:26,080 When I was playing piano as a child, 261 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:28,500 I played really good in front of audiences, 262 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,800 and I always enjoyed myself just with myself 263 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,980 playing music. 264 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:36,180 Then when the decision came up, what am 265 00:13:36,180 --> 00:13:36,960 I going to do? 266 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 The whole family sort of decided, because I 267 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,900 was young, it's not the music because it's 268 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:44,220 a hard job, we decided for me to 269 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:45,120 learn graphics. 270 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,940 And that split of music and graphic has 271 00:13:49,940 --> 00:13:51,900 been all the time with me. 272 00:14:03,980 --> 00:14:04,880 That was the big room. 273 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:08,400 That was the big living room with the 274 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,380 two stools. 275 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,720 There was the window in it. 276 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,880 To the left of it was the room 277 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,180 of my father, a library with a lot 278 00:14:18,180 --> 00:14:18,960 of books in it. 279 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,000 And at the top was where my mother 280 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,180 lived, who got up very early and always 281 00:14:28,180 --> 00:14:29,240 set everything on fire at five in the 282 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:29,340 morning. 283 00:14:29,860 --> 00:14:38,960 We were sort of surrounded by classical music. 284 00:14:39,620 --> 00:14:40,860 It was really great. 285 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:42,960 I was lying on the carpet, and somebody 286 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,380 was changing the record, and we were really 287 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:47,480 getting into this music. 288 00:14:50,540 --> 00:14:52,900 My mother was playing the piano, my father 289 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:55,560 was playing the piano, my mother was drawing, 290 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,260 my father was drawing, so it was natural 291 00:14:58,260 --> 00:15:00,320 that this kind of music sort of was 292 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,220 my thing, too. 293 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,680 When I 294 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:50,820 came 295 00:15:50,820 --> 00:15:53,820 to Hamburg, I went to the Meisterschule, and 296 00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:56,000 I worked very hard and learned a hell 297 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,320 of a lot. 298 00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:13,480 I started drawing funny figures, people with long 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,220 fingers, and developed my style of drawing, and 300 00:16:18,220 --> 00:16:22,520 that made me, bit by bit, finding my 301 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,940 own line concerning the graphics. 302 00:16:27,580 --> 00:16:30,580 And this music love, I mean, I was 303 00:16:30,580 --> 00:16:33,180 listening a lot to Chet Baker and Ray 304 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:36,360 Charles and Miles Davis, and that was really, 305 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:37,440 I loved all that. 306 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:39,860 And then this rock & roll was something 307 00:16:39,860 --> 00:16:41,020 completely different. 308 00:16:41,020 --> 00:16:42,040 Oh, I see. 309 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:42,780 Let's listen. 310 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:44,220 I think you can just pull it up. 311 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:45,100 It should work, shouldn't it? 312 00:16:45,140 --> 00:16:45,880 I think so, yeah. 313 00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:48,320 Before the solo, you just want to hear 314 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:48,460 it. 315 00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:51,780 One for the money, two for the show, 316 00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:55,520 Three to get ready, now go, can't go, 317 00:16:55,580 --> 00:16:59,440 But don't step on my blue suede shoes 318 00:17:01,780 --> 00:17:05,079 You can do anything, but leave on my 319 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:10,599 blue suede shoes I can't burn my house, 320 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:14,400 steal my car, Drink my liquor from an 321 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,740 old fruit jar Do the thing that you 322 00:17:17,740 --> 00:17:21,099 want to do Put up a hundred men 323 00:17:21,099 --> 00:17:24,380 over them shoes I wanted to play those 324 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:26,900 simple, stupid songs. 325 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,940 Some of the lyrics are nuts, but it 326 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:34,360 was so earthbound, and it wasn't intellectual, it 327 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:35,440 was just a feeling. 328 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:38,780 Most of the songs are just three chords. 329 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,060 That's all it was. 330 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,400 And it didn't have much to do with 331 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,840 music. 332 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,300 It was more a feeling, and it was 333 00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:51,500 a rhythmical feeling. 334 00:17:52,340 --> 00:17:53,860 That was the main thing about it. 335 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:57,000 That really interested me, and that's what I 336 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:57,620 wanted to do. 337 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,140 You can knock me down, step in my 338 00:18:01,140 --> 00:18:04,860 face Slander my name all over the place 339 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:08,240 Do the thing that you want to do 340 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,700 Put up a hundred men over them shoes 341 00:18:28,730 --> 00:18:32,390 Three to get ready, now go, go, go, 342 00:18:32,510 --> 00:18:41,650 But don't you step on my blue suede 343 00:18:41,650 --> 00:18:51,560 shoes laughs Yeah, Jim, great 344 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:51,880 feel. 345 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,320 I never played what was written down on 346 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,080 the music sheet. 347 00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:58,140 I always played what I felt was right 348 00:18:58,140 --> 00:18:59,800 for the piece of music. 349 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:03,600 Nobody ever told me what to play, which 350 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,380 I'm very proud of. 351 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,040 At the same time, sometimes I wish music 352 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,060 wouldn't have even been there, and I would 353 00:19:10,060 --> 00:19:12,480 have just been doing drawings, so it's very 354 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:12,900 difficult. 355 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:14,060 Did we go too fast? 356 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:18,300 No, I couldn't slow it down now. 357 00:19:18,740 --> 00:19:20,360 It's like it's all right. 358 00:19:20,980 --> 00:19:22,660 He always watched the guys on stage with 359 00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:26,220 big eyes and a longing. 360 00:19:29,060 --> 00:19:32,040 And often in the top ten later, when 361 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,580 Stuart preferred to sit with me, Klaus played 362 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:35,800 bass. 363 00:19:36,980 --> 00:19:40,420 Never on stage, he didn't dare, but he 364 00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:42,660 took a chair and sat in front of 365 00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:44,240 the stage and played bass. 366 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,980 That black figure in front, that's me. 367 00:19:48,780 --> 00:19:50,340 Paul is playing the piano. 368 00:19:51,260 --> 00:19:53,340 Pete Best is still playing the drums. 369 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:57,290 That's Jürgen Vollmer. 370 00:19:57,970 --> 00:20:01,790 And on the sofa, there's Astrid and our 371 00:20:01,790 --> 00:20:02,190 Stuart. 372 00:20:02,610 --> 00:20:06,890 Stuart played with the Beatles because John persuaded 373 00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:07,310 him to. 374 00:20:07,310 --> 00:20:10,510 Because John was the absolute persuasion artist. 375 00:20:10,510 --> 00:20:14,470 But Stuart's heart was always in painting. 376 00:20:15,050 --> 00:20:16,450 He thought it was great to stand on 377 00:20:16,450 --> 00:20:23,490 stage and pose, but that was it. 378 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:27,010 He never practised, which made Paul very angry, 379 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:28,910 which I can understand. 380 00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:33,250 But John always said when Paul complained, it 381 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:35,030 doesn't matter, he looks good. 382 00:20:35,910 --> 00:20:39,130 He really decided to stop playing in the 383 00:20:39,130 --> 00:20:39,470 band. 384 00:20:39,470 --> 00:20:41,230 He wasn't thrown out of the band. 385 00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:42,710 He just said, I don't want to do 386 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:44,750 it anymore, I want to study art. 387 00:20:45,050 --> 00:20:47,510 So he sold his bass to me. 388 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:51,330 And I said, well, John, how about me 389 00:20:51,330 --> 00:20:53,310 playing the bass in your band? 390 00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:56,330 And he said, oh, sorry, but Paul already 391 00:20:56,330 --> 00:20:57,970 bought the bass, so he's going to be 392 00:20:57,970 --> 00:20:58,630 the bass player. 393 00:21:11,610 --> 00:21:15,850 When I became friends with Klaus, I always 394 00:21:15,850 --> 00:21:19,570 thought, what can you do to make the 395 00:21:19,570 --> 00:21:21,250 boy look even better? 396 00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:25,630 And Klaus had one flaw, one thing, that 397 00:21:25,630 --> 00:21:27,230 was his protruding ears. 398 00:21:27,230 --> 00:21:30,590 And when he went to Tenerife to help 399 00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:36,230 his father build a house, he promised me 400 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:39,650 he wouldn't have his hair cut until I 401 00:21:39,650 --> 00:21:40,350 visited him. 402 00:21:40,750 --> 00:21:42,450 And he kept his promise. 403 00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:46,230 And I arrived in Tenerife, and there was 404 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:51,350 my Klaus, beautiful, with long, dark hair, without 405 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:52,530 protruding ears. 406 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,020 I bought a letter from Paul, saying, Klaus, 407 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,980 we are just now having a break. 408 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,620 We just finished our LP, and we're doing 409 00:22:23,620 --> 00:22:25,200 this and that, and we're doing a hell 410 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,460 of a lot of stuff. 411 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,320 So, can we come and see you? 412 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:31,840 And I said, great, yes, please come. 413 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,900 We did little trips. 414 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,480 We went to the mountains, and went to 415 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,220 the beach, and they got sunburned, and all 416 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:11,220 red noses, and shivering with sunburn. 417 00:23:11,340 --> 00:23:13,160 You know what that's like when you're sunburned. 418 00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:14,720 We had a great time. 419 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,280 It was beautiful. 420 00:23:28,540 --> 00:23:31,240 I like them so much. 421 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:33,100 I like George in particular. 422 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Such sweet, open, friendly people. 423 00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:40,240 Something I've never known in Germany. 424 00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:43,800 Making fun of themselves, making fun of their 425 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,140 countrymen, making fun of the Germans. 426 00:23:46,820 --> 00:23:47,860 They had a great time. 427 00:23:48,020 --> 00:23:49,400 They just were happy. 428 00:23:49,580 --> 00:23:51,720 I thought, this is the way you should 429 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,340 really live. 430 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,440 And in that particular direction, my life started. 431 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,900 It started changing to that effect that I 432 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:01,040 said, I have to get away from Germany. 433 00:24:16,660 --> 00:24:20,060 I moved to London first when I wanted 434 00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:21,820 to work there as a commercial artist. 435 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,400 And I talked to George about it, and 436 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,720 he said, why don't you come and stay 437 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,100 with us? 438 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:34,790 I came by train, actually. 439 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:37,490 And I had my stuff with me. 440 00:24:37,550 --> 00:24:40,150 I even had my tape recorder, a suitcase, 441 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:42,450 and a classical guitar. 442 00:24:43,390 --> 00:24:45,950 I loved playing classical guitar at that particular 443 00:24:45,950 --> 00:24:46,410 time. 444 00:24:48,050 --> 00:24:51,210 And the chauffeur picked me up. 445 00:24:51,290 --> 00:24:52,470 It was called Bill Cobbett. 446 00:24:52,730 --> 00:24:54,130 He came in an awesome princess car. 447 00:24:54,130 --> 00:24:56,870 He picked me up at the train station. 448 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,020 And he drove me straight to the studio, 449 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,140 to EMI Studios. 450 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,800 There was a time when it was a 451 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,880 really hot spot. 452 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,980 Outside the gate, you had all those kids. 453 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,400 And when he came closer to the kids, 454 00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:41,160 instead of slowing down, he was speeding up. 455 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,320 And the kids just screaming. 456 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,520 But when they saw the fast car come, 457 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,160 they were kind of bursting apart. 458 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,400 And then I could drive in. 459 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:53,440 And George came towards me and gave me 460 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,180 a big hug. 461 00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:55,480 That was great. 462 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:05,220 I always have this sort of embarrassed feeling 463 00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:08,200 when I meet any of them, even today. 464 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:09,600 I mean, George the least. 465 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,760 But there was always this, they are those 466 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,520 big guys. 467 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,460 And I'm just the little guy, you know. 468 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,900 With them, I always have this looking up 469 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:21,140 feeling because I really think they're fantastic, fantastic 470 00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:21,560 people. 471 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,660 This is Green Street. 472 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,840 That's where the apartment was where the Beatles 473 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,220 stayed. 474 00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:52,700 As a matter of fact, first, all four 475 00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:53,380 stayed there. 476 00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:55,740 But when I came, it was only George 477 00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:56,280 and Ringo. 478 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,020 I brought this classical guitar with me. 479 00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:02,180 And I learned how to play classical guitar 480 00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:03,300 in Spain. 481 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,760 And George saw me play. 482 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:09,500 I was sitting down playing Tarraga and Bach 483 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:10,900 and Rodriguez. 484 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,740 And he couldn't believe it because he would 485 00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:15,920 have loved to be able to play like 486 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,240 that. 487 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,700 But he never learned it. 488 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,500 I don't know why. 489 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:20,900 And then he asked me, Klaus, why are 490 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,080 you putting the guitar on your left knee? 491 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,360 And I had to explain to him, classical 492 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,140 guitar players put the guitar on their left 493 00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:28,440 leg. 494 00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:32,180 And then I got a job as a 495 00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:34,960 commercial artist for the Smith Warden Agency. 496 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,740 And I was really at the point of 497 00:27:39,740 --> 00:27:44,080 getting up the ladder of doing commercial art. 498 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,520 So I was moving up, you know. 499 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,440 I really noticed, I realised that I'm good 500 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,240 and that I can really do good stuff. 501 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:54,940 Joe? 502 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,640 Yeah. 503 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,280 They just asked me where the original of 504 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,600 the revolver cover is. 505 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,220 That's a question I get all the time. 506 00:28:03,140 --> 00:28:04,840 It's hanging in my library. 507 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:05,540 Right on. 508 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,620 Want to borrow it? 509 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,080 I want to look at it, but I 510 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,780 don't want to borrow it. 511 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,520 I want to see it. 512 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,900 I'll bring it in tomorrow. 513 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,760 Yeah, right on. 514 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:16,740 Did you work on it a little, change 515 00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:16,940 anything? 516 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:18,960 Oh yes, it's in colour now. 517 00:28:18,980 --> 00:28:20,060 Yeah, he got his crayons. 518 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,180 Yeah, it's in colour now. 519 00:28:21,180 --> 00:28:21,840 That's interesting. 520 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,060 But it's still nice. 521 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,780 I digitised it. 522 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,080 No, it's just like it was. 523 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:30,260 I've been wondering who this guy is ever 524 00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:31,760 since the revolver cover. 525 00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:37,160 I came across the revolver cover in Los 526 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,700 Angeles, the original artwork. 527 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:40,620 I still get it out and look at 528 00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:43,580 it and see stuff that I haven't seen. 529 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,620 But besides that, Krauss has a real discography. 530 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:53,660 You've got to look around for it. 531 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,500 It's amazing the stuff that he's played on. 532 00:28:58,020 --> 00:28:59,940 I just don't want no short people over 533 00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:00,360 and over. 534 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:01,120 They'll never catch us. 535 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:02,220 Get into a van. 536 00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:02,340 Yeah. 537 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:12,920 Ž Ž Ž 538 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,920 Short people got no reason to live Ž 539 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,540 Ž Short people got no reason Ž Ž 540 00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:26,220 Short people got no reason to live Ž 541 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,040 Graphics and music don't have much in common, 542 00:29:37,180 --> 00:29:40,120 sound, you can't draw, that's not possible. 543 00:29:40,460 --> 00:29:42,160 Of course you can do like a revolver 544 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,640 cover, you can get the feeling of the 545 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360 certain period and you get the image of 546 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,780 the person, of the people that are on 547 00:29:49,780 --> 00:29:53,900 the LP, but you cannot put music into 548 00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:57,000 visuals, I don't believe in that at all. 549 00:29:59,140 --> 00:30:01,920 I was nominated for a Grammy, I couldn't 550 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,440 believe it, that was just incredible, but I 551 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 didn't go there to pick it up or 552 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,500 something, but you know I was very proud. 553 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:22,420 I put myself on there, nasty, and John 554 00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:24,520 saw that immediately and said hey you put 555 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,020 yourself on there you bugger. 556 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,600 That was a thing I did for Gary 557 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,260 Wright, now this is very big, so that 558 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:53,740 was the actual cover saying extraction, and then 559 00:30:53,740 --> 00:30:56,460 I thought why always have a cover where 560 00:30:56,460 --> 00:31:00,100 you, that's glued and stuff, so I thought 561 00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,960 I just had one big piece of paper, 562 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,240 fold it up, making this to one big 563 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,880 portrait on the one side, and on the 564 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,560 other side you have this cover. 565 00:31:24,580 --> 00:31:29,580 Jimi Hendrix, I like it myself, this is 566 00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:31,940 done on scratch board, you have a black 567 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:35,620 piece of material in front of you and 568 00:31:35,620 --> 00:31:38,500 then you scrape into it, and I enjoy 569 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:41,840 doing this, I like coming from the dark, 570 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,220 into the light. 571 00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:51,880 Tobo Negro, they're a death punk band, it's 572 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,060 not my music but it doesn't matter. 573 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,940 What my main thing is, I'm a commercial 574 00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:00,860 artist, and if you're a commercial artist you 575 00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:05,840 have to really be able to get into 576 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,280 what the artist or what the particular person 577 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,280 wants, you have to really think what's the 578 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,940 audience out there, who's going to get this, 579 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:22,100 and yeah, that's what I did. 580 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,080 It's funny, I always remember the sunny part 581 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,920 of it, because it seemed to be sunny 582 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,640 all the time, which most likely wasn't the 583 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560 case at all, you just feel like it 584 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,020 was sunny all the time. 585 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,000 In the 40s and 50s, everyone wanted to 586 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,880 be a grown-up, where suddenly in the 587 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040 60s, everyone wanted to be young, the young 588 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,100 wanted to change the world, and they had 589 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:52,240 a voice suddenly, with the Beatles and the 590 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,300 Stones, this kind of epicentre where they all 591 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,200 came to was London, so suddenly fashion, art, 592 00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:02,140 music, everything, eyes and ears were on London, 593 00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:04,460 and it was very powerful. 594 00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:15,320 You've got the originals, yeah? 595 00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:16,000 Yeah. 596 00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:16,420 Good. 597 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,340 But this one... 598 00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:20,880 No, because I thought they may be lost, 599 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,040 which would be dreadful. 600 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,159 Let me just see, let's look for the 601 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,100 one I like so much. 602 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,639 I love that, it's extraordinary. 603 00:34:31,739 --> 00:34:33,139 Isn't that amazing? 604 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:33,820 I love it. 605 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,760 And Ossie Clark's dress. 606 00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:38,239 That's Ossie's dress, yeah? 607 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,320 Amazing. 608 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,199 Yeah, and then I continued here, the hair. 609 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,880 But you know, the way the dress is 610 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,020 lit and everything, that was very much how 611 00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:49,100 you wanted it, you were there... 612 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,739 I wanted the light from here and the 613 00:34:50,739 --> 00:34:52,920 wind machine from there, so I could make 614 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,520 those long shadows, otherwise I couldn't have done 615 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,719 those. 616 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,660 Isn't it extraordinary? 617 00:34:57,380 --> 00:34:57,780 Wow. 618 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,840 What magazine was it for? 619 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,480 Vogue. 620 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,620 Oh, it was for Vogue. 621 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,720 Yeah, it was spread in Vogue, I didn't 622 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,220 bring the original actual... 623 00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:16,760 Magazine. 624 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,480 Magazine. 625 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:20,140 This was in colour, but I don't like 626 00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:22,320 it in colour, it's much better in black 627 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,820 and white. 628 00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:23,120 It's beautiful. 629 00:35:23,140 --> 00:35:24,140 So like this one... 630 00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:26,020 So we photograph my face and then you... 631 00:35:26,020 --> 00:35:27,460 Just the face, and the rest is all 632 00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:28,660 white, and the rest I did. 633 00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:38,830 We think we must have met through Patty 634 00:35:38,830 --> 00:35:42,190 Boyd, who was married to George Harrison at 635 00:35:42,190 --> 00:35:44,350 that time, I think. 636 00:35:45,570 --> 00:35:48,910 And he became... 637 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:49,890 He was a friend. 638 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:51,190 I mean, he became a friend, we all 639 00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:52,890 got on really well, and there was a 640 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:55,350 whole group of us that met and would 641 00:35:55,350 --> 00:35:55,810 go out. 642 00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:58,090 And it was very much the in crowd, 643 00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:02,070 the being going around, seeing people, seeing bands, 644 00:36:02,070 --> 00:36:04,510 going to see Jimi Hendrix, or The Who, 645 00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:07,950 and going around the clubs, and that was 646 00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:09,390 my life in those days. 647 00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:13,750 Then this phone call came from Gibson Camp, 648 00:36:14,050 --> 00:36:16,450 and as he was married to Gibson, they 649 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:18,650 both really talked me into it. 650 00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:20,950 First, of course, Klaus. 651 00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:22,670 Oh, I can't do that. 652 00:36:23,490 --> 00:36:26,090 And I'm not good enough yet. 653 00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:28,110 And, oh no. 654 00:36:28,430 --> 00:36:30,790 And I think about it again, and I 655 00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:33,570 just said, you just do it now and 656 00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:34,110 that's it. 657 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:36,370 And play with Gibson. 658 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:37,490 Well, good. 659 00:36:38,050 --> 00:36:40,970 And that's how it happened that they formed 660 00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:41,850 a band together. 661 00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:45,970 The first few shows he was really like... 662 00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:48,750 Hawke wrote with his rookie to the public. 663 00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:53,890 Self-confidence is something somebody has, or he 664 00:36:53,890 --> 00:36:54,290 hasn't. 665 00:36:55,110 --> 00:36:58,110 The older you get, you get more confidence. 666 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,770 But that's the way I am, I can't 667 00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:02,170 help it. 668 00:37:04,130 --> 00:37:05,930 But it wasn't drugs, and it wasn't sex, 669 00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:07,470 and it wasn't alcohol, it was something else. 670 00:37:08,030 --> 00:37:09,310 He was fantastic, don't worry. 671 00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:12,550 It was a great little funky band. 672 00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:14,850 We had a wonderful time on stage. 673 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:16,250 It was really good. 674 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:20,790 Brian Epstein signed our band up. 675 00:37:21,590 --> 00:37:23,110 Oh, well, this is interesting. 676 00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:26,430 And then the band disbanded. 677 00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:30,290 And then suddenly the Hollies, Manfred Mann, John 678 00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:33,210 Mayle, the Moody Blues, they all wanted me 679 00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:33,930 to play bass. 680 00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:35,310 And I thought, oh, come on, what happened? 681 00:37:35,570 --> 00:37:36,770 I didn't know what happened. 682 00:37:37,330 --> 00:37:38,370 Suddenly I had the choice. 683 00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:41,290 So I took Manfred Mann Band and worked 684 00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:43,210 with the Manfred Mann Band, did loads of 685 00:37:43,210 --> 00:37:43,930 hit records. 686 00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:45,650 And there I was. 687 00:38:31,790 --> 00:38:34,550 I always was embarrassed when people came up 688 00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:36,130 to me and said, sign this autograph. 689 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:38,490 I never enjoyed that part of it. 690 00:38:39,090 --> 00:38:39,930 That wasn't the point. 691 00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:41,370 I just wanted to do things. 692 00:38:41,470 --> 00:38:44,050 Whatever I did or whatever I do now, 693 00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:47,210 I like doing just because I like doing 694 00:38:47,210 --> 00:38:47,450 it. 695 00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:51,230 And if a comment comes like, oh, he 696 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:52,170 will like that. 697 00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:55,510 That already makes me, well, I don't care 698 00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:56,570 if he likes it. 699 00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:57,890 I want to like it, you know. 700 00:38:58,050 --> 00:38:59,930 I'm doing it for myself, I must admit. 701 00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:01,030 I don't know. 702 00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:01,730 Is that selfish? 703 00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:05,410 I don't know what it is, but that's 704 00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:05,930 how I work. 705 00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:55,700 And I see this devastatingly handsome young man 706 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:57,880 with this sort of this coat draped over 707 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,240 his shoulder. 708 00:39:58,420 --> 00:39:59,680 I thought, oh, my goodness, this is obviously 709 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,920 the new lead singer. 710 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:04,220 I can't compete with this. 711 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,180 I've obviously come here to be told that 712 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:07,120 I haven't got the job. 713 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:08,980 And they said, oh, this is close. 714 00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,060 This is our bass player. 715 00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:11,380 And I thought, oh, thank God for that. 716 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:15,060 But what was your favourite of the records 717 00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:15,740 that we did? 718 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,280 Can you remember? 719 00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:19,040 I like Mighty Quinn a lot, but still 720 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,860 was nearly never released. 721 00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:22,300 Do you remember that? 722 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,040 We recorded it and then we put it 723 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,520 aside. 724 00:40:25,660 --> 00:40:27,920 It was lying around for like three, six 725 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,220 months before we put it out. 726 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,620 And you had supper with Lou Reisner, who 727 00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:34,480 was the head of Mercury in America. 728 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:36,100 And he said, have you got any new 729 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,620 product for us? 730 00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:39,180 We need a new single in America. 731 00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:40,540 And I said, well, we've got this. 732 00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:42,740 He said, sounds like a number one. 733 00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:12,860 Well, I definitely wanted to stay in England. 734 00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,380 And to do that, I had to get 735 00:41:15,380 --> 00:41:16,800 married, which I did. 736 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,280 Then I could join the union and get 737 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:21,960 a work permit. 738 00:41:22,780 --> 00:41:25,620 My main job was the music and drawing. 739 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,240 I only did from time to time. 740 00:41:28,540 --> 00:41:30,980 Then I suddenly was doing sessions. 741 00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:34,020 I was doing sessions for John. 742 00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:36,480 That's how it started with John and then 743 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,960 going to Toronto playing. 744 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,760 Then George came, wanted me to do a 745 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,060 play. 746 00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:42,780 And we did All Things Must Pass. 747 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,280 Then John came again. 748 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:45,760 Then Ringo came. 749 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,400 So that's how it started. 750 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200 And then Richard Perry came, asked me to 751 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,360 play for Harry Nielsen. 752 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,840 Then it was Carly Simon and on and 753 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,060 on. 754 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,960 Suddenly I was in the music business. 755 00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:59,480 I didn't plan that. 756 00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:01,700 Nobody could have planned that one. 757 00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:13,870 John wanted to put this band together called 758 00:42:13,870 --> 00:42:14,990 the Plastic Owner Band. 759 00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:17,650 So he called me and said, Klaus, you're 760 00:42:17,650 --> 00:42:19,170 going to play bass. 761 00:42:19,310 --> 00:42:20,590 And so I was worried. 762 00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:21,870 And I said, well, tell me a little 763 00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:22,550 more about it. 764 00:42:22,590 --> 00:42:24,330 And so he started rapping on and saying, 765 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:25,330 yes, we want to play. 766 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:26,970 And it's all very important for us. 767 00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:30,450 And Eric Clapham already said, yes, we're going 768 00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:30,930 to do it. 769 00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:33,510 And now I'm asking you. 770 00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:34,730 So are you going to do it or 771 00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:34,910 not? 772 00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:36,070 He was getting very uptight. 773 00:42:37,090 --> 00:42:38,910 So I said, OK, I'll do it. 774 00:42:39,590 --> 00:42:41,390 Well, then see you tomorrow at the airport. 775 00:42:42,090 --> 00:42:42,910 What do you mean? 776 00:42:42,910 --> 00:42:44,470 We have to play. 777 00:42:45,310 --> 00:42:47,390 The plane goes tomorrow to Toronto. 778 00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:50,130 And the concert is the day after tomorrow. 779 00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:52,330 We went on the plane. 780 00:42:52,850 --> 00:42:55,950 And on the plane, we started to rehearse 781 00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:57,070 in the last row. 782 00:42:57,250 --> 00:42:58,230 It was really noisy. 783 00:42:59,430 --> 00:43:01,870 The engines were right next to us. 784 00:43:02,090 --> 00:43:04,950 And you know what an electric bass sounds 785 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:06,650 like when you don't have an amplifier. 786 00:43:06,930 --> 00:43:07,790 You can't hear it. 787 00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:27,550 So we went right from the airport to 788 00:43:27,550 --> 00:43:30,470 the stadium, went into the dressing room, had 789 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:33,190 a little rehearsal, and then we went up 790 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:34,190 on stage and played. 791 00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:40,370 I was thinking that John Lennon hasn't played 792 00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:43,410 for years, hasn't been on stage for years. 793 00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:46,170 And then suddenly he goes with no rehearsal 794 00:43:46,170 --> 00:43:48,770 with a band that never played together before. 795 00:43:50,170 --> 00:43:52,450 And that's a concert that was scary. 796 00:43:52,970 --> 00:43:55,010 And I thought, well, he must know what 797 00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:55,490 he's doing. 798 00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:58,730 OK, we're just going to do numbers that 799 00:43:58,730 --> 00:44:00,290 we know, you know, because we've never played 800 00:44:00,290 --> 00:44:01,170 together before. 801 00:44:01,390 --> 00:44:04,170 No soundcheck, no rehearsal, no nothing. 802 00:44:04,570 --> 00:44:05,910 That's the way it sounds too. 803 00:44:07,330 --> 00:44:10,930 Well, it's a one for the money, two 804 00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:14,570 for the show, three to get ready now, 805 00:44:14,670 --> 00:44:18,390 go, get close, don't you step on my 806 00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:19,090 blues, baby. 807 00:44:21,330 --> 00:44:23,970 Well, you can do anything for the hearts 808 00:44:23,970 --> 00:44:25,130 of them blues, baby. 809 00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:30,130 Well, you can knock me down right in 810 00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:33,550 my face, write my name all over the 811 00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:33,950 place. 812 00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:36,960 Do anything that you want to do. 813 00:44:37,690 --> 00:44:40,890 Oh, honey, lay off of them blues, don't 814 00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:43,810 you, my blues with you. 815 00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:48,410 Well, you can do anything for the hearts 816 00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:49,870 of them blues with you. 817 00:45:03,950 --> 00:45:09,310 Oh, honey, lay off of them blues, don't 818 00:45:09,310 --> 00:45:09,630 you, my blues with you. 819 00:45:11,830 --> 00:45:14,830 John was very, very quick in the studio. 820 00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:16,870 He always wanted to get out of the 821 00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:18,830 place as quick as he possibly can. 822 00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:21,950 And he tried to encourage everybody to come 823 00:45:21,950 --> 00:45:24,290 on, let's do it quick and do this. 824 00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:29,670 And with George, it was completely the opposite. 825 00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:31,690 He made the place comfortable. 826 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,250 It was always a great atmosphere wherever he 827 00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:37,830 was, even in the studio. 828 00:45:42,970 --> 00:45:45,290 I started to work for George. 829 00:45:45,850 --> 00:45:48,090 That was All Things Must Pass LP. 830 00:45:51,290 --> 00:45:54,510 I think All Things Must Pass sold more 831 00:45:54,510 --> 00:45:56,110 than any of the Beatles LPs. 832 00:46:03,490 --> 00:46:07,450 At the time, I was living in Hampstead 833 00:46:07,450 --> 00:46:12,630 and I parted with my wife, Christine Hargreaves. 834 00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:15,490 And then George offered me to come to 835 00:46:15,490 --> 00:46:17,070 Why Don't You Stay at Friar Park. 836 00:46:18,670 --> 00:46:20,570 And so I had this cottage. 837 00:46:20,750 --> 00:46:23,170 And for me, that was just so good 838 00:46:23,170 --> 00:46:25,790 because it was hard to part from Christine. 839 00:46:30,310 --> 00:46:33,570 When I was living here and I was 840 00:46:33,570 --> 00:46:38,690 part of his writing those songs, I was 841 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:42,030 involved with him, his music, his life all 842 00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:42,390 the time. 843 00:46:43,630 --> 00:46:45,950 There's somebody on bass who many people have 844 00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:47,690 heard about, but they've never actually seen him. 845 00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:49,090 Klaus Vorman. 846 00:46:55,650 --> 00:46:57,810 It was very, very personal. 847 00:46:59,050 --> 00:47:03,010 Not that George was not only nosy, but 848 00:47:03,010 --> 00:47:05,550 he wanted to really know how you feel. 849 00:47:06,450 --> 00:47:08,630 And I wanted to know how he felt. 850 00:47:08,690 --> 00:47:10,750 So he was telling me about his life, 851 00:47:11,170 --> 00:47:11,850 how he felt. 852 00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:14,830 And he was asking me questions that really 853 00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:18,830 went down to very personal feelings and very 854 00:47:18,830 --> 00:47:19,670 personal things. 855 00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:22,510 And that's why it's natural that he definitely 856 00:47:22,510 --> 00:47:26,550 is the main person and the one I 857 00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:27,730 love the most. 858 00:47:30,890 --> 00:47:33,650 Klaus was the kind of friend that filled 859 00:47:33,650 --> 00:47:35,890 many roles in George's life. 860 00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:38,630 He could do drawings for him. 861 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:40,090 He could help him with the garden. 862 00:47:40,270 --> 00:47:41,710 He could give him good ideas. 863 00:47:41,850 --> 00:47:43,430 He could inspire him. 864 00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:47,270 You know, a really interesting friend and a 865 00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:49,730 friend to go along that artistic journey with 866 00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:49,950 him. 867 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,020 Everybody knows George was a very spiritual person. 868 00:47:58,460 --> 00:48:00,440 But at the same time, he had lots 869 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,280 of hang-ups that people don't know about. 870 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,140 And he would not let people know. 871 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,440 I know about those hang-ups and I 872 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,420 know about his fights he had with himself. 873 00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:12,420 And I know that I was a big 874 00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:13,020 help for him. 875 00:48:13,980 --> 00:48:15,440 No, that's perfect. 876 00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:27,580 His illness, it didn't bother him much. 877 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,680 He said, well, Klaus, don't worry about it. 878 00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:32,720 We only live in this shell. 879 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:34,040 It's not important. 880 00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:37,220 So he was trying to soothe me. 881 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:40,960 I dream a lot. 882 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,740 I dream about George in all different stages. 883 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,260 Sometimes when he's 17 or sometimes when he's 884 00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:49,180 here at Friar Park or Los Angeles. 885 00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:52,000 So he's with me all the time, yeah. 886 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,860 I was thinking about you all afternoon and 887 00:49:17,860 --> 00:49:19,780 looking forward to this. 888 00:49:20,780 --> 00:49:22,960 I got a little surprise for you. 889 00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:24,780 Come right in, Klaus. 890 00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:28,300 Okay. 891 00:49:28,540 --> 00:49:30,100 Do some of these look familiar? 892 00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:31,080 They should. 893 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,620 You played on almost all of them. 894 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:41,900 Starting with Harry, Carly, Ringo, of course. 895 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,160 It's been amazing how many memorable records we 896 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,360 worked on together. 897 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,360 It was fun. 898 00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:50,200 It certainly was. 899 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,840 Here we have Nobody Does It Better. 900 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,820 Oh, there you go, Ringo. 901 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,480 You're 16 in photograph. 902 00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:07,620 I first met Klaus Bormann in June of 903 00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:13,480 1971 when I began work on the Nielsen 904 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,420 Schmielsen album. 905 00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:19,260 He called me and said, well, Klaus, we're 906 00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:22,920 doing working with Harry Nielsen and we would 907 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,940 like you to play. 908 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,520 And I was a small pause. 909 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,540 And then because I always do little pauses. 910 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,900 And then he said, well, we pay you 911 00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:33,820 double scale. 912 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,880 That's interesting. 913 00:50:34,980 --> 00:50:37,720 The first time anybody ever said that to 914 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:38,000 me. 915 00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:41,680 And somehow I wasn't even aware of the 916 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,400 fact that I actually already was a well 917 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,340 -known bass player. 918 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,060 After that first session for the Nielsen Schmielsen 919 00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:53,980 album, we knew that we were on to 920 00:50:53,980 --> 00:50:56,520 something special and we had a great band. 921 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,280 We went on to do the song Without 922 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,180 You, which became number one all over the 923 00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:03,560 world. 924 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,300 The next project I did was Carly Simon, 925 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,100 which became the No Secrets album. 926 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,780 I haven't seen Carly since in the 70s. 927 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,380 I don't know exactly what year. 928 00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:38,100 And it was a long time for me 929 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:39,540 to wait to see her again. 930 00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:42,420 She invited me to come up to Martha's 931 00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:44,220 Vineyard, which was really great. 932 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,100 I guess we were out of touch in 933 00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:35,620 that way. 934 00:52:35,620 --> 00:52:39,400 On the other hand, there was a binder. 935 00:52:40,940 --> 00:52:43,160 There was something about there's certain people that 936 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,100 you meet and right away, you know that 937 00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,900 you know that they know that you know. 938 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:12,060 Back the way it used to be, everyone 939 00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:14,080 thought I was funny. 940 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,120 Nobody ever asked me if I wanted tiny 941 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,500 little sandwiches set up to my room. 942 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:31,620 But back the way it was before, I 943 00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:33,680 was always waiting. 944 00:53:35,620 --> 00:53:40,380 Everyone thought I was OK, but now I'm 945 00:53:40,380 --> 00:53:45,600 sent back the way it used to be. 946 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,960 Some people thought I was pretty, but not 947 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,940 many passes were made. 948 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,080 Klaus came in the first day of the 949 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,980 session and I was overwhelmed by his appearance. 950 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,080 He was just strikingly handsome. 951 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,060 And he was very, very modest, almost retiring 952 00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:10,620 in his modesty. 953 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,140 You know, he would keep his eyes down 954 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:14,920 and then suddenly he would look up and 955 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,900 then they would look down again very, very 956 00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:17,500 soon after. 957 00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:20,280 And then Klaus, I don't know whether he'd 958 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,100 just been sort of noodling on his bass, 959 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,740 but he started playing this. 960 00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:33,440 And I said, son of a gun, in 961 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,920 reaction to his playing, it didn't have anything 962 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,880 to do with the song. 963 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,040 Just he began to play, son of a 964 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,300 gun. 965 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,140 You know, I was so surprised. 966 00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:50,760 Son of a gun. 967 00:54:57,220 --> 00:54:58,760 That's how we're starting the record. 968 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,740 And it led the way for that song 969 00:55:02,740 --> 00:55:03,740 to come to life. 970 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,840 It turned out to be one of the 971 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,980 most famous bass introductions in the history of 972 00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:09,800 pop music. 973 00:55:28,990 --> 00:55:32,230 And look, this is the low road and 974 00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:33,270 this is the high road. 975 00:55:33,850 --> 00:55:35,970 And they both lead to the same place. 976 00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:38,990 It's just a tribute to I'll take the 977 00:55:38,990 --> 00:55:41,790 high road and you'll take the low road. 978 00:55:42,250 --> 00:55:45,970 And I'll be in Scotland before you. 979 00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:50,070 For me and my true love will never 980 00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:54,290 meet again on the bonnie, bonnie banks of 981 00:55:54,290 --> 00:55:56,190 Loch Lomond. 982 00:55:57,810 --> 00:55:58,970 All right, so which one do you want 983 00:55:58,970 --> 00:55:59,310 to take? 984 00:55:59,390 --> 00:56:01,950 Well, I always think you should go the 985 00:56:01,950 --> 00:56:02,450 right way. 986 00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:03,810 Take the high road. 987 00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:37,220 The recording technology was far advanced in London 988 00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:38,640 than it was in America. 989 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,880 The records just sounded better. 990 00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:42,760 The engineers were trained better. 991 00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,740 The arrangers even were trained better with more 992 00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:48,060 classical background. 993 00:56:48,820 --> 00:56:51,000 Was a time when people were much more 994 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,860 able to or into sharing. 995 00:56:53,780 --> 00:56:57,240 Into sharing their music and sharing the chord 996 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,800 changes that they had just learned. 997 00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:04,660 Mick Jagger wound up singing the background on 998 00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:05,620 You're So Vain. 999 00:57:05,620 --> 00:57:09,020 Paul and Linda McCartney sang background on a 1000 00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:11,540 song called Night Owl, which was written by 1001 00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:12,320 James Taylor. 1002 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:16,180 Mick was recording background vocals in the studio 1003 00:57:16,180 --> 00:57:16,640 with me. 1004 00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:18,520 And he said, God, I'm really nervous to 1005 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,260 meet Paul McCartney. 1006 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,160 And Paul and Linda were really nervous about 1007 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,280 meeting Mick. 1008 00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:27,700 You could imagine that they would have, along 1009 00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:30,820 with Klaus Vorman and others, have taken up 1010 00:57:30,820 --> 00:57:33,720 an instrument and said, hey, what about this 1011 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,280 change? 1012 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,000 What about this blues song? 1013 00:57:36,620 --> 00:57:38,140 Do you know this song of Elvis's? 1014 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,660 And there were, it was like a bunch 1015 00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:40,260 of kids. 1016 00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:44,140 It was not till they grew up that 1017 00:57:44,140 --> 00:57:48,820 things became more, you know, there was a 1018 00:57:48,820 --> 00:57:49,860 fight to the top. 1019 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,400 And Klaus was, I never felt that Klaus 1020 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,200 was in competition with anybody. 1021 00:57:57,500 --> 00:57:59,780 Klaus was not the leader of a band. 1022 00:57:59,780 --> 00:58:02,420 You know, he was very much an artist 1023 00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:06,780 who fell into a category of being a 1024 00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:08,100 multifaceted artist. 1025 00:58:08,740 --> 00:58:12,500 We truly did have a family with all 1026 00:58:12,500 --> 00:58:14,420 of us working on that album together. 1027 00:58:15,260 --> 00:58:17,540 And Klaus, of course, was a major part 1028 00:58:17,540 --> 00:58:18,280 of that family. 1029 00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:22,440 He just always exuded a sense of peacefulness 1030 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,140 and calm. 1031 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,300 I can't ever remember him being flustered. 1032 00:58:29,780 --> 00:58:31,180 Used to be. 1033 00:58:56,620 --> 00:59:01,100 And it was very emotional for me, because 1034 00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:04,200 I haven't been in the music business for 1035 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,140 so many years. 1036 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,540 And I really said, stop, no more music. 1037 00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:09,500 This is it. 1038 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,020 And now suddenly people said, why don't you 1039 00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:13,980 do this? 1040 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,940 Remember a thing and visit all those people. 1041 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,700 And I didn't know that this is going 1042 00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:22,460 to be so hard on me to be 1043 00:59:22,460 --> 00:59:24,580 back into the music business. 1044 00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:27,860 And suddenly they were all sitting and playing. 1045 00:59:28,020 --> 00:59:29,500 And the people are so nice. 1046 00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:34,160 And I realised all those times, those friends 1047 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:41,500 I had, like John died, George has gone. 1048 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,600 Those all were friends. 1049 00:59:44,140 --> 00:59:46,300 And then suddenly there I was with Carly 1050 00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:47,740 and all this came back to me. 1051 00:59:48,060 --> 00:59:49,860 It's very emotional, very, very hard. 1052 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,560 I was going back and forth all the 1053 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,940 time from London to New York, from New 1054 01:00:21,940 --> 01:00:24,500 York back to London, from London to L 1055 01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:27,520 .A., from L.A. back to London, from 1056 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:32,160 London to L.A. to New Orleans, back 1057 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:32,660 to London. 1058 01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:34,220 I thought it was silly. 1059 01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:38,320 So I thought, go to America, because everything 1060 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,020 was happening in L.A. at that time. 1061 01:00:51,390 --> 01:00:53,830 We did the Ringo LP and I didn't 1062 01:00:53,830 --> 01:00:55,730 have anywhere to stay really. 1063 01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:58,030 So Ringo said, come on, stay with me 1064 01:00:58,030 --> 01:00:58,710 in the bungalow. 1065 01:00:59,690 --> 01:01:01,890 And for me, of course, that was completely 1066 01:01:01,890 --> 01:01:02,810 new. 1067 01:01:02,970 --> 01:01:04,130 I never had anything like this. 1068 01:01:04,590 --> 01:01:07,690 You must imagine my Camaro was standing outside. 1069 01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:09,650 Ringo rented a Camaro for me. 1070 01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:12,470 And in the morning when you wanted breakfast, 1071 01:01:12,750 --> 01:01:13,690 what do you want for breakfast? 1072 01:01:14,130 --> 01:01:15,470 I felt like a little king. 1073 01:01:16,830 --> 01:01:18,130 You had your own key. 1074 01:01:18,790 --> 01:01:22,450 I could go right from the bungalow into 1075 01:01:22,450 --> 01:01:23,810 the car and drive off. 1076 01:01:24,430 --> 01:01:27,030 And sometimes in the morning I wanted to 1077 01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:27,530 get out. 1078 01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:29,910 And I did a little drawing for Ringo 1079 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:31,590 so that he knew where I was. 1080 01:01:46,690 --> 01:01:50,070 I had spent at least two years trying 1081 01:01:50,070 --> 01:01:53,290 to talk Ringo into doing a solo album. 1082 01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:57,230 We started that first session that week. 1083 01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:59,710 And by the end of the week, we 1084 01:01:59,710 --> 01:02:01,290 had five tracks completed. 1085 01:02:01,970 --> 01:02:05,570 Two of them became number one records, Photograph 1086 01:02:05,570 --> 01:02:06,650 and You're Sixteen. 1087 01:02:53,230 --> 01:02:55,930 And the Beatles had partied. 1088 01:02:56,310 --> 01:02:58,450 They all were friends of mine. 1089 01:02:58,450 --> 01:03:02,330 And I was sometimes even maybe a little 1090 01:03:02,330 --> 01:03:05,470 help for them to still like each other. 1091 01:03:09,130 --> 01:03:11,870 John was coming to Los Angeles. 1092 01:03:12,490 --> 01:03:14,770 He had written a song for Ringo. 1093 01:03:15,490 --> 01:03:19,790 I think that Ringo, in his excitement about 1094 01:03:19,790 --> 01:03:24,370 John coming, forgot to mention to George that 1095 01:03:24,370 --> 01:03:26,590 we were doing a track with John. 1096 01:03:26,590 --> 01:03:30,090 I suddenly found myself in the position of 1097 01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:33,190 asking John Lennon if it was okay if 1098 01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:35,350 George Harrison came down to play on a 1099 01:03:35,350 --> 01:03:37,690 track that I was producing with Ringo Starr. 1100 01:03:39,010 --> 01:03:41,870 And George just walked in 20 minutes later. 1101 01:03:41,950 --> 01:03:43,810 We had just started running the song down. 1102 01:03:45,290 --> 01:03:47,690 And he had barely had a chance to 1103 01:03:47,690 --> 01:03:48,110 hear it. 1104 01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:50,330 He just kind of came in quietly with 1105 01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:52,990 a little amp and his guitar plugged in 1106 01:03:52,990 --> 01:03:57,450 the amp and just started playing the perfect 1107 01:03:57,450 --> 01:03:59,870 quintessential Beatle guitar part. 1108 01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:04,210 And Paul, I told him, you got to 1109 01:04:04,210 --> 01:04:05,690 be a part of this album. 1110 01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:09,470 He said, okay, give me a deadline. 1111 01:04:09,630 --> 01:04:10,910 I work well with deadlines. 1112 01:04:11,070 --> 01:04:11,670 I said, Tuesday. 1113 01:04:13,830 --> 01:04:15,510 And Monday night, he called me up and 1114 01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:16,950 played the song over the phone. 1115 01:04:18,050 --> 01:04:19,990 So you're saying you want me to play, 1116 01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:20,630 not sing? 1117 01:04:21,730 --> 01:04:23,670 It was really cool around the piano. 1118 01:04:23,810 --> 01:04:24,470 I thought we were singing. 1119 01:04:25,010 --> 01:04:26,230 No, who's going to sing it? 1120 01:04:26,350 --> 01:04:27,750 I don't know what the hell we're doing. 1121 01:04:27,810 --> 01:04:29,750 There's no fucking organisation here. 1122 01:04:30,370 --> 01:04:31,710 I thought you were just going to play 1123 01:04:31,710 --> 01:04:32,050 the drum. 1124 01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:33,070 On this track? 1125 01:04:33,150 --> 01:04:33,690 On this track. 1126 01:04:33,710 --> 01:04:33,930 Great. 1127 01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:35,490 If you sing, I won't be here. 1128 01:04:35,490 --> 01:04:36,310 No, no, that's enough. 1129 01:04:36,810 --> 01:04:37,170 Great. 1130 01:04:37,950 --> 01:04:38,570 I'll play. 1131 01:04:38,730 --> 01:04:40,950 I wish you would sing, but I thought 1132 01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:41,970 you wouldn't want to sing. 1133 01:04:42,050 --> 01:04:42,450 No, I don't. 1134 01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:45,230 And now, or just before you were gone? 1135 01:04:45,230 --> 01:04:45,610 No, ever. 1136 01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:49,650 I've cancelled this song in my head. 1137 01:04:50,670 --> 01:04:54,490 We wanted to have something really extraordinary and 1138 01:04:54,490 --> 01:04:56,750 special to accompany the album. 1139 01:04:57,870 --> 01:04:58,870 Let's have a look, shall we? 1140 01:04:58,890 --> 01:04:59,410 Yeah, okay. 1141 01:05:00,570 --> 01:05:01,810 And I've never done it before. 1142 01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:03,370 It's the first time I did lithography. 1143 01:05:04,270 --> 01:05:05,370 That's I Am The Greatest. 1144 01:05:06,130 --> 01:05:08,490 The thing that always impressed me the most 1145 01:05:08,490 --> 01:05:10,650 is that when you listen to the music 1146 01:05:10,650 --> 01:05:14,030 and look at the lithograph, it captures the 1147 01:05:14,030 --> 01:05:15,350 spirit of each song. 1148 01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:20,990 And I think you outdid yourself from Revolver. 1149 01:05:23,350 --> 01:05:25,530 Well, it's different, for sure. 1150 01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:27,590 It's more personal for the song. 1151 01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:28,030 Yeah. 1152 01:05:28,210 --> 01:05:29,430 Because I didn't do that. 1153 01:05:30,250 --> 01:05:31,530 Like all those. 1154 01:05:31,890 --> 01:05:33,830 Oh my my, it's unbelievable. 1155 01:05:34,330 --> 01:05:36,410 I mean, look at the expression on these 1156 01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:36,890 faces. 1157 01:05:38,190 --> 01:05:39,990 You could just stare at each one of 1158 01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:40,810 these for an hour. 1159 01:05:40,910 --> 01:05:41,950 I can't help it. 1160 01:05:41,950 --> 01:05:44,790 When I get going, I creep into it 1161 01:05:44,790 --> 01:05:46,490 and try and get all the details, you 1162 01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:46,670 know. 1163 01:05:48,590 --> 01:05:52,410 You're 16 is, it's just classic in a 1164 01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:56,730 drive-in movie, making out in the car. 1165 01:07:57,740 --> 01:07:59,140 Hey, sounds good to me. 1166 01:07:59,240 --> 01:07:59,440 Yeah. 1167 01:08:00,580 --> 01:08:02,400 I love that huge fill you did in 1168 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:02,920 the middle, didn't you? 1169 01:08:03,940 --> 01:08:04,340 Yeah. 1170 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,520 Hey, it's a big yes from him. 1171 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,260 Okay, when I see you do that. 1172 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:10,660 Okay. 1173 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,180 He's a great bass player. 1174 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,260 He's one of the best in the world. 1175 01:08:13,780 --> 01:08:16,359 He's a creative bass player in that he 1176 01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:18,160 won't always pick the obvious note. 1177 01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:23,479 And he, the prototype of that is Louis 1178 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:23,880 Armstrong. 1179 01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:25,840 He goes to the right place all the 1180 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,140 time. 1181 01:08:26,420 --> 01:08:29,020 Mozart goes to the right place all the 1182 01:08:29,020 --> 01:08:29,319 time. 1183 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,979 And Klaus Wurman, he'd go to the right 1184 01:08:33,979 --> 01:08:34,460 place. 1185 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,359 And it was a pleasure working with him, 1186 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,620 both personally and musically. 1187 01:08:46,779 --> 01:08:49,279 Klaus has a very special gift, his feel, 1188 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:49,960 see. 1189 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,939 Klaus doesn't play a bunch of notes. 1190 01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:53,640 He doesn't run up and down the scale. 1191 01:08:53,979 --> 01:08:58,040 But there's nobody with a feel exactly like 1192 01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:58,380 Klaus. 1193 01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:05,800 And Klaus is a remarkable tennis player too. 1194 01:09:06,020 --> 01:09:06,979 You know, he used to run me around 1195 01:09:06,979 --> 01:09:07,340 a lot. 1196 01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:07,660 Right. 1197 01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:15,779 It was just the most comfortable thing ever 1198 01:09:15,779 --> 01:09:17,260 to play with Klaus playing bass. 1199 01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:19,100 And it just happened here today, you know. 1200 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,979 Playing that little silly little kind of short 1201 01:09:22,979 --> 01:09:23,979 people groove, you know. 1202 01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:25,840 I believe the first time we really played 1203 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,080 together was with John. 1204 01:09:27,420 --> 01:09:28,880 That was on the Imagine album. 1205 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,279 To be there in the room with John 1206 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:35,319 and Klaus in the room, you know. 1207 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,800 It was in John's bedroom, basically. 1208 01:09:38,020 --> 01:09:39,720 That was the studio in Ascot. 1209 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,120 It was their bedroom that they cleared everything 1210 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,160 out and made it into a studio. 1211 01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:45,880 So it was a very small room, actually. 1212 01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:47,840 We were all crowded into the room. 1213 01:09:52,180 --> 01:09:55,620 So it was George and it was John, 1214 01:09:55,780 --> 01:09:56,180 of course. 1215 01:09:56,700 --> 01:09:58,680 Jokov was there, Phil Spector. 1216 01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:00,940 And in the studio, you had Jim Keltner 1217 01:10:00,940 --> 01:10:01,780 playing drums. 1218 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,560 Alan White played drums. 1219 01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:05,940 Nicky Hopkins was playing piano. 1220 01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:08,080 Most of the time, it was just that 1221 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,060 crew of people. 1222 01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:10,300 Nobody else. 1223 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,620 So John wanted to record the song and 1224 01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:16,320 he played it to us on the piano. 1225 01:10:17,020 --> 01:10:17,900 And it was Imagine. 1226 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,420 And we were all sort of really very, 1227 01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,620 very moved because it was a beautiful song. 1228 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,720 Just to hear him sing it and on 1229 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:26,180 the piano. 1230 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,600 And even for me, to this day, that 1231 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,940 would have been enough. 1232 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,540 Just the piano and John. 1233 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:35,680 Nothing else. 1234 01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:39,380 We played as simple as he possibly can. 1235 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,180 Just the root notes. 1236 01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:42,360 Very simple. 1237 01:10:42,820 --> 01:10:43,840 Nothing much to it. 1238 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,560 And in the end, in New York, Spector 1239 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,020 and John put on strings. 1240 01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:55,260 That's the way the track was put together. 1241 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,880 John had already an apartment in New York 1242 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,180 and spent a lot of time with Jokov 1243 01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:16,300 in New York. 1244 01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:31,210 I was sort of a strange addition now 1245 01:11:31,210 --> 01:11:33,830 after all these years of having played or 1246 01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:34,430 not played. 1247 01:11:34,690 --> 01:11:36,430 And when I played, I just played the 1248 01:11:36,430 --> 01:11:37,150 way I played. 1249 01:11:37,770 --> 01:11:39,830 And then after a while, I realised that 1250 01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:41,390 this was another addition. 1251 01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:44,350 I wasn't Paul McCartney playing the bass. 1252 01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:45,570 I played differently. 1253 01:11:46,090 --> 01:11:48,830 And if I made a suggestion to a 1254 01:11:48,830 --> 01:11:52,070 certain arrangement or something, that wasn't Paul. 1255 01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:53,050 That wasn't John. 1256 01:11:53,250 --> 01:11:54,070 That was me. 1257 01:11:54,650 --> 01:11:58,010 So the input I gave to the songs 1258 01:11:58,010 --> 01:12:01,190 and the material was a different one. 1259 01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:40,010 Well, that's the house we went to, where 1260 01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:44,070 Harry and John were doing this record, Pussycats. 1261 01:12:44,930 --> 01:12:46,030 It was a crazy time. 1262 01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:48,750 It was L.A. The house was full 1263 01:12:48,750 --> 01:12:49,250 of people. 1264 01:12:50,030 --> 01:12:51,770 We had several apartments. 1265 01:12:52,090 --> 01:12:54,550 On the top floor, you had the round 1266 01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:56,050 one with the round glass. 1267 01:12:56,050 --> 01:12:59,350 That's where John was living, with May Pang 1268 01:12:59,350 --> 01:13:00,110 at that time. 1269 01:13:01,030 --> 01:13:03,050 And right next to it, the window to 1270 01:13:03,050 --> 01:13:05,390 the right, there was an apartment where Keith 1271 01:13:05,390 --> 01:13:06,810 Moon was living. 1272 01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:09,410 And right next to that, the last window, 1273 01:13:09,550 --> 01:13:10,730 that's where I was staying. 1274 01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:14,130 And behind that, that's where Ringo was having 1275 01:13:14,130 --> 01:13:14,750 his apartment. 1276 01:13:18,490 --> 01:13:20,810 Sometime we were just waiting for John and 1277 01:13:20,810 --> 01:13:21,910 Harry to come back. 1278 01:13:22,330 --> 01:13:24,050 They just were lost for a few days. 1279 01:13:24,050 --> 01:13:26,590 They went out partying all day. 1280 01:13:26,710 --> 01:13:27,870 Everybody knows about it. 1281 01:13:28,030 --> 01:13:29,450 They spent a lot of time in the 1282 01:13:29,450 --> 01:13:32,650 bars and drinking at private people's house, being 1283 01:13:32,650 --> 01:13:33,250 outrageous. 1284 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:38,170 My wife and I went down one time 1285 01:13:38,170 --> 01:13:41,110 for a party, a rather civilised party, or 1286 01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:43,350 at least the front part of the party 1287 01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:44,210 was civilised. 1288 01:13:44,290 --> 01:13:46,630 And when we left, I think that was 1289 01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:48,730 maybe one of the nights that John and 1290 01:13:48,730 --> 01:13:53,830 Harry woke up with the sun blazing down 1291 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:55,310 on them, and they were like at the 1292 01:13:55,310 --> 01:13:55,630 beach. 1293 01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:56,950 They had been out on the beach all 1294 01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:59,210 night drinking and carrying on and writing songs. 1295 01:13:59,470 --> 01:14:01,290 And you come to a session, they started 1296 01:14:01,290 --> 01:14:04,530 at 7, and at 10 o'clock, everybody's 1297 01:14:04,530 --> 01:14:06,950 stoned, and not a tone of music had 1298 01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:07,450 been played. 1299 01:14:08,090 --> 01:14:11,010 And Harry was paying for every penny for 1300 01:14:11,010 --> 01:14:12,350 it, not the record company. 1301 01:14:13,090 --> 01:14:15,390 It's his party, he wanted to have it 1302 01:14:15,390 --> 01:14:15,610 later. 1303 01:14:15,610 --> 01:14:18,350 But I didn't enjoy it because those all 1304 01:14:18,350 --> 01:14:20,470 were leeches, that were people that were sort 1305 01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:23,650 of taking the money of my friend, and 1306 01:14:23,650 --> 01:14:24,550 I didn't like that. 1307 01:14:24,910 --> 01:14:29,090 You could fill a room of apes with 1308 01:14:29,090 --> 01:14:32,290 a lot of cocaine and V.S.O 1309 01:14:32,290 --> 01:14:36,650 .P., Courvoisier brandy, and the works, the best 1310 01:14:36,650 --> 01:14:40,250 marijuana in the world, but if the apes 1311 01:14:40,250 --> 01:14:45,110 didn't have an idea or the power of 1312 01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:50,210 syntax, you would yield zero from the experience. 1313 01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:52,870 Well, actually, sub-zero, considering the expense of 1314 01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:53,570 the narcotics. 1315 01:14:53,890 --> 01:14:57,570 It was the talent that provided some great 1316 01:14:57,570 --> 01:14:58,070 music. 1317 01:15:01,630 --> 01:15:04,850 Oh, that once I knew, I knew it 1318 01:15:04,850 --> 01:15:08,350 once, I knew he needed me. 1319 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,620 Until the day I die, I won't know 1320 01:15:17,620 --> 01:15:21,520 why, I knew he needed me. 1321 01:15:27,010 --> 01:15:33,960 It could be fantasy, oh, or maybe it's 1322 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:40,540 because he needs me, he needs me, he 1323 01:15:40,540 --> 01:15:44,180 needs me, he needs me, he needs me, 1324 01:15:44,260 --> 01:15:45,520 he needs me. 1325 01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:09,340 guitar plays All 1326 01:16:09,340 --> 01:16:12,940 this going to parties and meeting the people 1327 01:16:12,940 --> 01:16:15,920 late at night and having dinner at one 1328 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,240 o'clock in the morning and hanging out 1329 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,420 at the pool and meeting Mr. So-and 1330 01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:24,060 -so, I was getting very tired of that, 1331 01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:26,620 and I thought, if this really means being 1332 01:16:26,620 --> 01:16:28,700 in the business, that's not for me. 1333 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,580 I'm Klaus. 1334 01:16:29,820 --> 01:16:30,760 Very good to meet you. 1335 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:31,300 Yeah, great. 1336 01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:32,300 It's a pleasure, pleasure. 1337 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,340 So you rented the house from Cynthia? 1338 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,140 Yeah. 1339 01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:39,940 I then started building this, and I felt 1340 01:16:39,940 --> 01:16:40,840 much, much better. 1341 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,780 Was it just this, this part? 1342 01:16:42,780 --> 01:16:43,880 Just that part, yes. 1343 01:16:43,900 --> 01:16:45,580 Right, and so this became the extension. 1344 01:16:45,580 --> 01:16:47,620 This is all new, that's the extension. 1345 01:16:47,860 --> 01:16:49,200 And there wasn't anything on this side? 1346 01:16:49,340 --> 01:16:50,300 No, that was empty. 1347 01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:55,380 This is the cave for Klaus. 1348 01:16:57,980 --> 01:16:59,620 We thought it was a cute idea. 1349 01:17:01,780 --> 01:17:04,820 I was living here in the house with 1350 01:17:04,820 --> 01:17:07,740 Cynthia and Otto, and I was very much 1351 01:17:07,740 --> 01:17:08,800 involved in the family. 1352 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,060 You see, it's great to have a family, 1353 01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:14,960 and it's great to have kids, but it 1354 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,500 just distracted me so much from my work 1355 01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:22,760 at that particular point that the work suffered. 1356 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,000 I even put the model exactly the way 1357 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,200 the sun was shining and put it outside 1358 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,320 on the deck and looked at it. 1359 01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:30,600 What is it going to be like in 1360 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:31,100 the morning? 1361 01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:33,220 Where does the evening sun shine in? 1362 01:17:33,460 --> 01:17:35,020 Do we put a little more... 1363 01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:37,300 I played for Randy Newman, I remember that, 1364 01:17:37,340 --> 01:17:39,580 and it was about the last things I 1365 01:17:39,580 --> 01:17:39,800 played. 1366 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,540 I played on short people and several on 1367 01:17:42,540 --> 01:17:43,080 his LP. 1368 01:17:43,620 --> 01:17:44,320 What a tree, eh? 1369 01:17:44,900 --> 01:17:45,600 It's beautiful. 1370 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:50,600 And after that, I was asked to play 1371 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,020 for Mac Rabanak. 1372 01:17:52,060 --> 01:17:53,540 He asked me to play in his band, 1373 01:17:53,660 --> 01:17:55,100 and that for me was tops. 1374 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,960 And I realised that even with this great, 1375 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,920 fantastic band, my heart wasn't with the music 1376 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:04,400 anymore. 1377 01:18:05,820 --> 01:18:08,480 I adore this man, I love it, but 1378 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:10,280 I couldn't play anymore. 1379 01:18:10,980 --> 01:18:14,320 Anyway, at that time, the decision was between 1380 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,120 Cynthia and I that I want to go 1381 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:17,920 back to Germany. 1382 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:18,020 Thank you. 1383 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,240 In Germany, I had the feeling that the 1384 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,560 people in the record companies, they didn't have 1385 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,940 much of a clue what a really good 1386 01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:42,760 band is. 1387 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:47,980 It was a completely different atmosphere than it 1388 01:18:47,980 --> 01:18:49,980 was in America or England. 1389 01:18:50,500 --> 01:18:52,160 So I thought this would be a good 1390 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,020 little slot where I could fit in to 1391 01:18:55,020 --> 01:18:58,000 be the sort of in-between the record 1392 01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,480 company and the band. 1393 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,340 And when Trio came along, the band came 1394 01:19:15,340 --> 01:19:17,420 to me and said, why don't you produce 1395 01:19:17,420 --> 01:19:17,700 us? 1396 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,480 I never thought of being a record producer. 1397 01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:24,260 So that's how I got into producing records 1398 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,900 and we had this thing where Trio was 1399 01:19:27,900 --> 01:19:29,980 doing the last and final version of Da 1400 01:19:29,980 --> 01:19:30,500 Da Da. 1401 01:19:30,620 --> 01:19:32,020 Was es los mit der Mannschaft? 1402 01:19:32,180 --> 01:19:33,420 Geht es immer nur weg ab? 1403 01:19:33,620 --> 01:19:36,160 Da na na na da da da da. 1404 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,320 That was very, very funny, very funny. 1405 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,420 And the other song was Anna and Christina 1406 01:19:44,420 --> 01:19:45,880 was in the choir who was singing. 1407 01:19:45,980 --> 01:19:47,380 That's how I got to know Christina. 1408 01:19:54,260 --> 01:19:56,080 I worked with him as well. 1409 01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,540 For me, Klaus was always a man, his 1410 01:20:00,540 --> 01:20:04,380 calmness, his charisma, who stood above the things 1411 01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:05,140 of life. 1412 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,360 We've been together for 20 years now. 1413 01:20:08,300 --> 01:20:11,740 We have two children, two wonderful children. 1414 01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:16,720 He is really my great love and he 1415 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,080 is also my greatest sparring partner in life. 1416 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,600 Most people that are really, really successful, they 1417 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,720 don't actually have the time to spend for 1418 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:29,260 a family. 1419 01:20:29,820 --> 01:20:31,560 And to me, the family is very important. 1420 01:20:31,700 --> 01:20:34,060 That's why I have long stretches where I 1421 01:20:34,060 --> 01:20:35,540 didn't do much work. 1422 01:20:36,380 --> 01:20:38,920 Friendship and the family, it's more important than 1423 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,160 all the music, all the arts, anything. 1424 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:53,840 People that accept my personality and accept me 1425 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,320 the way I am, then I can produce 1426 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:56,540 them. 1427 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,540 But I'm not really THE producer. 1428 01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,320 That's why I stopped doing that. 1429 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,580 That's when I started saying, OK, I'm doing 1430 01:22:04,580 --> 01:22:05,540 my graphics again. 1431 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,640 I always had been doing little graphic things 1432 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:08,260 in between. 1433 01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:11,320 And then this book, Hamburg Days, came along 1434 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,020 and people said, let's do a book about 1435 01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:16,840 the time when you met those Beatle boys 1436 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:17,260 first. 1437 01:22:17,260 --> 01:22:21,400 And that's how I got back much more 1438 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,520 into the graphics. 1439 01:23:28,850 --> 01:23:31,750 I think everything changes all the time. 1440 01:23:32,210 --> 01:23:33,950 I could have ten versions and I would 1441 01:23:33,950 --> 01:23:35,810 like to know how they all were. 1442 01:23:36,190 --> 01:23:37,810 You know, if I would have done this 1443 01:23:37,810 --> 01:23:39,250 or if I would have done that, being 1444 01:23:39,250 --> 01:23:42,110 part of the Beatles or playing with a 1445 01:23:42,110 --> 01:23:44,650 foreigner or whatever, it would interest me. 1446 01:23:44,730 --> 01:23:47,990 I'm curious how my life would have gone 1447 01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:49,290 or what would have happened. 1448 01:23:49,370 --> 01:23:51,610 If I would have said, OK, I'm 15, 1449 01:23:51,810 --> 01:23:53,130 all I want to do is the rest 1450 01:23:53,130 --> 01:23:54,770 of my life play tennis, it would have 1451 01:23:54,770 --> 01:23:55,690 interested me too. 1452 01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:59,470 So those things, you can't say, this is 1453 01:23:59,470 --> 01:24:02,010 it and I'm happy with the way it 1454 01:24:02,010 --> 01:24:02,430 went. 1455 01:24:04,030 --> 01:24:06,930 It could have been all completely different. 1456 01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:13,670 I always have been following how things just 1457 01:24:13,670 --> 01:24:14,470 are going. 1458 01:24:14,690 --> 01:24:17,390 I never forced myself into anything. 1459 01:24:18,050 --> 01:24:20,330 I always floated sort of along. 1460 01:25:17,820 --> 01:25:21,500 I need it bad Just like a dog 1461 01:25:21,500 --> 01:25:26,320 when he's going mad Woo-wee, baby, woo 1462 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,180 -wee Baby, won't you give your love to 1463 01:25:30,180 --> 01:25:35,940 me Any minute, mine anymore Told me you'd 1464 01:25:35,940 --> 01:25:39,880 want me around no more Woo-wee, baby, 1465 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,640 woo-wee Baby, don't you let your dog 1466 01:25:44,640 --> 01:26:09,140 bite me instrumental There's 1467 01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:12,780 a me and I'm in love again Had 1468 01:26:12,780 --> 01:26:16,400 no lovers and you know it You know 1469 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,520 I love you, yes I do And I'm 1470 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,780 saving all my love in jail for you 1471 01:26:22,780 --> 01:26:28,260 Any minute, mine anymore Told me you'd want 1472 01:26:28,260 --> 01:26:33,100 me around no more Woo-wee, baby, woo 1473 01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:33,720 -wee 97410

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