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My fellow Americans.

Welcome into Redacted, everybody. I'm Natalie Morris.

And I'm Clayton Morris. And today we're going to cover the stories the

mainstream media largely ignores. And wake up, everybody. Welcome into

I'm Clayton Morris. I'm Natalie Morris. And on this show, we cover the stories

the mainstream media largely ignores or.

today. Welcome in to Redacted.

I'm Clayton Morris.

Right before we go live, he's like... We got a lot of news to get to, so let's

do it.

It's been good to see you.

Oh, it's good to see you, Clayton.

Listen, I retweeted...

Trump's diatribe there.

And I said, you know, the president has declared so much war on me today that I

think he needs an act of Congress for this.

Right. Well, it's football season, and there has been backlash about male NFL

cheerleaders. This isn't new. Men have always been a part of cheer, but for

reason there's a fresh stir up about it.

Honestly, to me, it feels like a backlash to the trans agenda that's been

in our faces, and that's unfortunate because I don't think this deserves the

same outrage.

So you're in favor of men as NFL cheerleaders? Yeah, I don't care.

As long as they've got the chops to dance. Yeah. I am absolutely not.

First of all, it's a predominantly male audience that watches football, watches

NFL football.

But I can watch football.

Yeah, you can.

But I'm just telling you, it's a predominantly male sport, predominantly

watch it. No man wants to watch other men do cheerleading.

Why the hell are these people still allowed to walk through frickin'

These people should be under arrest behind bars for treason.

That's correct.

You're 100 % right. And guess what, Clayton?

Every single person that voted for President Trump and voted for

is going to feel betrayed.

Why are these people still free and able to carry out crimes against the

American people and against their own country? Because they haven't been held

accountable. Well, guess what? You know who's going to go down for those crimes?

Not going to be those people.

It is going to be the people who are in power now.

So at what point do you see like an event horizon, Dr. Paul, like where the

.S. dollar, like there's a point of no return? Have we already reached that

point of no return?

You know, that's the way it works in places like Zimbabwe and, you know,

Venezuela. You know, it probably hits and then there's runaway inflation.

There's a collision and then they have to do a new currency.

That will come and can come, but I keep thinking, can they be that stupid?

You know, why doesn't somebody grab hold of the range? But that's not the way it

works. It's going to get worse. There will be a liquidation. They have to, you

know, liquidate the debt. We can't afford, otherwise it will increase

exponentially.

Police in the UK are just jogging around in some tight leggings.

They call them tights there.

And arresting men who catcall them. So they found their hottest gals on the

force and had them just jog about.

Don't they have anything better to do with high crime rates in the UK?

Apparently not.

These same women will be 45 years old and wondering why they're single. These

same police officers making these arrests. There are entire memes about

-aged women who get catcalled and they're like, thanks. Thank you. Still

right? They're not going to hear this anymore.

Not everybody hates it. Democrats are freaking out that what President Trump

doing with his executive orders and his orders to slash the federal government

budget and personnel is a constitutional crisis.

Their argument is that he does not have the power to, say, close a federal

agency or choke off their budgets or offer people early retirement or a

furlough. So, Lionel.

Yes or no, does the president have the constitutional right to do this?

Absolutely, 100%. And they're not even claiming he doesn't. They're asking for

temporary restraining order.

Think of it as a Hail Mary.

You think that that censorship is coming from the government, from the Scottish

government?

I've reached a point where I don't take the government seriously.

By definition, I take those people as being essentially just factotums, just

puppets. They're just mouthing words that are scripted for them elsewhere,

think they're just the active components of projects that are being prosecuted

at the behest of much larger entities, you know, the United Nations, the World

Economic Forum.

Right. Do you guys have an idea of who Sidney Sweeney is? Well, her new ad

campaign for American Eagle Jeans is being labeled by liberal fatties as Nazi

propaganda and the mainstream media as a return to whiteness. It's a return to

whiteness to put Sidney Sweeney in an ad promoting some sort of clothing. Who

could have seen this coming?

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So they don't know. They didn't test.

They don't seem to care, and that leaves open the window. What I get concerned

about is it leaves open a window to make you take another one in four to six

months. It's the strangest thing to keep taking shots every six months but yet

be more and more prone to having the illness the shots are supposed to

The Justice Department has decided that domestic terrorism is a thing and that

people who advocate overthrow of the government are terrorists.

That's terrifying.

This is all Big Brother stuff. There's no such thing as domestic terrorists.

What do we do about that?

Isn't it something, right, just in the United States of America?

I mean, our founding document is the Declaration of Independence.

It's the most beautiful document ever because the opening doesn't even make an

argument. It just says it's self -evident that there's a God and that he

us to be free, which I love. I love not even pretending that that needs to be

argued. We take it as self -evident that God wants us to be free. And

governments, they're just this institution that man creates to protect

freedom. And if they're not protecting our freedom or if they're tyrannical,

then we have the...

Right. And the duty to overthrow that government and replace it with a new

So the idea that the government that was created by that document could then

ever try to say that, like the overthrowing your own government is some

like.

Just a moral sin on its face by definition is crazy.

The whole spirit of the country was that you overthrow a tyrannical government.

I hear the same thing. I jokingly say when I return home from Washington each

week, my wife greets me at the door, not with a hug or a kiss, but why the hell

is Anthony Fauci not in jail yet? So people are frustrated, but they have to

understand I don't control the judicial system.

You were not allowed to deviate from the talking points. I mean, I experienced

that. Right.

Like, for real? No, you're not. You had to just nod along and be like, yeah,

okay. I mean, if you think about how ridiculous that is, you know, I had to

Mein Kampf in college, right? We still read Hitler's words to understand the

move towards a final solution, understanding bloodline, all of that.

written in his own book so you can understand where he got to with this.

important to understand historically.

I agree.

I don't endorse Hitler.

I don't think so.

By the way, I'm with you on that, Clayton.

Glad we agree on that. Next week, Australia will take up consideration of

combating anti -Semitism, hate, and extremism bill in Parliament. This is

the most draconian pieces of legislation to hit the English -speaking world.

Like, let's put everything we can into this hate siege bucket, okay?

Are they going completely insane in Australia?

It is clear that Western governments at large are... waging war on their

populations and Christianity, and the people need to really gain the courage

speak while they still have the right.

Well, Dan Bongino is back to his day job hosting a podcast.

You're wondering why we're not hearing more about this Epstein case? I can't

emphasize to you enough. This Epstein thing is more than meets the eye there.

know a lot of people want to make this thing go away, and what the hell are

hiding with Jeffrey Epstein?

Why do they want to make this Jeffrey Epstein story go away so bad? Remember,

Dan told all of this, though, to move on from this. Watch.

He killed himself.

Again, you want me to... I've seen the whole file. He killed himself.

Seen the whole file. He killed himself. So his first order of business, back now

in the podcast circuit, according to him, now that he's back, is going after

independent media.

Black pillars, as he calls them.

Grifters.

And he's attacking them, not telling us the truth about the Epstein files or

what it was like behind the scenes going after the January 6th pipe bomber.

Ron in our chat asks, where are the children?

You know this is a very hard topic.

Where are the children?

550 ,000 unaccompanied. Yes, ma 'am, they're gone.

550 ,000 unaccompanied alien children from babies, literally just birth.

to 17 years old, crossed the border, were transported through all the NGOs

you and I just talked about, and sent back to the cartel members, and they're

all lost. I'm telling you. How involved would the CIA be in what Kevin just

talked about, this bot program, and pushing out these sort of false

from these, like, maggot influencers?

There are entire units at the CIA that do this as their...

as their 40 -hour -a -week job.

Yeah, this would be a very sophisticated program taking place at the CIA.

Further evidence the United States Constitution is being thrown out. The

executed a search warrant on a Washington Post reporter's home. To me,

devastating for the freedom of the press in the United States because...

As Clay Greenwald or any other great journalist would tell you, I mean, they

rely on these types of informants. They rely on these types of leakers providing

them with documents to actually be able to tell the story and hold government

accountable. That's the power of the press. So you're going to sort of send a

shockwave of fear through newsrooms to stop or prevent them from really doing

journalism.

Well, that some cynic might say that would be the feature, not the bug.

And others can imagine of how this can be weaponized against people who might

political adversaries or ideological adversaries to the current

above and beyond The Washington Post. I mean, that goes without saying. So what

is the threat to democracy?

People on both sides, people in power saying out loud that they want to

control what you get to hear.

And see, it is real, it is a threat, and it is happening

and growing. And I'll tell you what, punishing thought is on the agenda.

And I just heard it from someone who's not a coup, not Alex Jones, not Tucker

Carlson, one of the most sober and intelligent politicians of our time,

Rodham Clinton.

I think it's important to indict the Russians, just as Mueller indicted a lot

Russians who were engaged in direct election interference and boosting Trump

back in 2016.

But I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda

and whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is

something that would be a.

Well, we now have hard evidence from inside the United States Senate that

Hillary Clinton herself helped manufacture the Trump collusion hoax.

and approved it. And we have the receipts for it as well. This is

This is criminal -level deceit that could lead her to her arrest.

Wouldn't that be amazing?

I never thought we would see such a smoking gun, but this is literally an

showing that she wanted to use the FBI and weaponize it against her political

opponent, and the FBI went along with it under a hoax they thought up.

It is time to wake up. On this show, we cover the stories the mainstream media

won't touch, live from the Rocky Mountains.

Welcome to Redacted with Natalie and Clayton Morris.

Are you ready?

Let's get uncomfortable.

All right, all right, all right. Welcome in. I'm very excited about today's show

because so many of us get caught up in the minutia of the war in Iran.

This politician said this, the Ayatollah said this, Netanyahu said this, but...

Are we missing the larger roadmap, the bigger picture of how this started, how

many decades ago this was planned, and how it actually ends?

We're thrilled to have David Icke on the show today because he's been writing

about this since the 1990s, and he's published a few videos in the past

of weeks about how...

The Iran war has been decades in the making this plan. Right. In a recent

he named names of who is in the Trump administration who has been pulling the

strings for decades. And I want to ask him about these cast of characters, the

Kushners, the Netanyahu's Roy Cohn, who's, you know, gone back decades for

influence in the FBI. Like what what is happening here? Has it been in the works

for longer than that? And do we get.

get lost when we get lost in the minutia. Yeah. And it's President Trump.

mean, you know, is it like an idea that was born out of him and Lindsey Graham?

No, no, no. Trump is obviously a pawn in this whole process. He's just the guy

that carried it out.

So we're going to talk about all of that and more with the great David Icke

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So on March 12th, the New Yorker magazine hilariously asked this question

an article. Why doesn't President Trump want to talk about the war in Iran?

Could it be that Operation Epstein -Fury hasn't gone the way that they planned

or the psychopaths?

In Israel, for all of this, it hasn't gone the way that they planned. Anyone

watching the mainstream media, Operation Epstein -Fury began only a few weeks

ago. But, of course, this has been decades in the making. And that's the

that our next guest, David Icke, made in a recent video, that this whole war in

Iran is just really the tip of the iceberg. And it has been decades in the

making. And you're seeing this plan all coming together by these warmongers.

and psychopaths who run everything.

And David Icke is our guest here on Redacted. Great to have you back, sir.

Always a pleasure to talk with you.

Thank you so much, David. So you made the point, and I think so many people

in the mainstream media over the past few weeks are saying, you know, this is

all ramping up, this is all happening right now.

But as you really laid out, this has been happening for decades, this whole

plan. has been put in motion for decades. You've been writing about this

the 1990s. Can you lay out maybe the timeline and why that is the case?

Well, it's a massive story, of course, and to really understand where it's

coming from, you have to, as we talked in previous interviews, you have to go

into another dimension of reality.

Because at that point, first of all, it's coming from a very different

relationship to time.

And so our timeline appears a certain way to us, but it's not necessarily the

same where it's actually coming from.

And you also realize that because it's symbolically coming from here.

When it enters the public arena as different political parties and World

Organization and different countries and Big Pharma and all these things,

actually, ultimately, there's one original force that's

manipulating all of it. We're seeing the way it plays out. Imagine a pyramid.

where you've got the peak of the pyramid, classically the all -seeing eye

symbol.

And at that point, you've got the origin of where it's coming from.

But then it comes down the pyramid. The pyramid gets wider and wider and wider

and encompasses more and more and more organizations.

you know, we see in the public arena.

But ultimately, if you go back up the pyramid, the source, the origin is the

same. And if you don't grasp the origin and the agenda behind it,

then you're never going to really grasp the way it's playing out. You're going

to see it in a certain way. As you rightly say, you're going to see the

situation as something that is about Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is just the vehicle.

He's not the origin.

People say, oh, Trump did this, Trump did that.

Trump is basically a not very bright, and I'm being underwhelming there,

a not very bright bloke, but someone who has been put in there for a specific

reason.

And that reason, among many other things, well, it's twofold.

One, it's to trash the current system.

He's done it with this war.

He's done it with terrorists.

He's done it in multiple ways already.

And the other thing, and this is why he's surrounded, at the same time he's

trashing the system, he's surrounded by AI oligarchs, because the other part of

his... reason for being put in there is track the old system and facilitate

the unfolding of the new system and this old system

and new system are actually the creations of the same force what i call

global cult uh this global network of secret societies that uh plays out in

reality the agenda that's coming from another reality.

So there's this concept of

creative destruction, and it goes along with a phrase I

coined back in the 90s, the totalitarian tiptoe.

That's when you start with A and you're going to Z, you know where you're going,

but you go in steps, you go in stages.

because you can't go from A to Z overnight.

You go as fast as you can, but not so fast that you alert too many people,

although the closer you get to Z, the more people will be alerted, obviously,

the things that are going on in the world. So if we pick it up at the start

the 20th century, the world was in a certain way. It was in a certain

situation.

And if you look at what we call human history, what we think is human history,

what we're told is human history, it's a constant process of

centralizing power.

So we started out in tribes, and people in the tribes were deciding what

happened in the tribe.

Then we got to this point where loads and loads of tribes were brought

to form what we call countries.

Then you go into the European Union and loads and loads of countries come

together. You've got the BRICS group of countries and these other globally

centralized groupings.

NATO is another one.

And the process that you've been looking at is the constant centralization of

power. It's a simple equation.

The more you centralize power,

the fewer are making decisions affecting more and more and more.

So countries in Europe used to make their own decisions.

The tribes of Europe used to make their own decisions before that.

Now it's bureaucrats in Brussels dictating to the whole of the European

This is what I'm talking about.

So if we pick it up at the start of the 20th century, the world was in a certain

state.

Then we had World War I, and that completely rewrote

the global landscape, the global map.

And the world after World War I was nothing like it

was before.

So you've got a new status quo, basically.

You then go very quickly into the 1930s and the Great Depression, which did for

the economic system, and immediately you're into World War II.

So you've gone from status quo, trashed, new status quo, status quo, trashed,

new status quo.

And after the end of the Second World War, you had the United Nations

being created, not...

at least thanks to the Rockefellers. You had the World Health Organization,

1948, at least thanks to the Rockefellers, with Ross Charles always

background.

You had the creation of the Bretton Woods Agreement, the International

Fund, the World Bank, all these globally centralized bodies. And the world was

very, very different.

in 1945, 46, 47, 48 than it was in 1900.

And I was born in 1952, seven years after the end of the war.

And pretty much from when I was born to in the period

we're in now, the same system has basically been in place. It was the

post -war system.

We're now heading so fast into the AI

digital control system that will

be a level of control, if we go on allowing it, that we've never

seen anything like in known human

history. Now, for that,

new completely new status quo to come in the status

quo that is has to go because if you've got a situation a status quo

that ain't moving you can't replace it with anything you have to trash it you

have to dismantle it you have to bring it down so then you can uh replace it

that's been um

Trump's role.

Now, I have to say, you know, I look at the Internet and I see

people that have continued, despite all the evidence, to

support Trump.

And they've been saying he's bringing down the globalists.

He's bringing down the globalists. He's bringing down the deep state.

And, you know, I look at it and shake my head because he's not.

He's been put in there by the deep state, quote, globalists.

What he's doing is trashing the old system. And the thing that people, I

need to realize is that this global cult that I talk about, it put in

the system that's being trashed.

the totalitarian tiptoe, it's now time to replace it with the endgame, which is

AI -human fusion and all that goes with it.

And therefore, this stage in the sequence of human

centralization of power and control has to go. And so he's playing two parts.

He's trashing it and he's surrounded by these oligarchs that, from the American

point of view, are...

putting in the AI systems, your Larry Ellison's, your Elon Musk's, your Mark

Andreessen's, the David Sachs, Trump's AI czar,

Larry Altman, all these people, Peter Thiel, big time.

And I'm watching this transition going on, the trashing and the

introduction of the new system.

If you want to, I mean, we've already talked about the First World War, the

Second World War. If you want to trash a status quo, whether it's in a country,

it's in a region, or it's in the world, then wars are perfect.

Because once you have a war, the world in which the war took place, whether

globally or regionally or whatever, it's never the same again.

The status quo is gone. It's not coming back.

And so the attacks on Iran have got to be seen in that context.

Because if you go to this level, this other dimensional level, indeed, you

into the inner core of this global cult that serves that. That's why all these

Satanists and people are involved. It's because they're serving that demonic

force.

If you look at where it's coming from, there is a particular

sequence. There's a sequence of events that are leading

the world to this ultimate AI human fusion

dystopia. And if you come down into the world that we experience every day,

then it looks a certain way.

It looks like, oh, Trump's made this decision to go to war with Iran,

and he's done it in league with Israel.

And, oh, yeah, when did Trump make the decision and all this stuff? That's what

it looks like. It does.

If you go to this level, it's just part of a sequence that's long, long, long

planned. You know, when you look at...

Aldous Huxley and Brave New World.

Even you look at George Orwell in 1984, but look at Aldous

Huxley, who was a real insider family, the Huxley family.

And you look at what Brave New World was predicting in 1932.

and you look at what's unfolding now, the technology he was talking about in

novel about the end of parenthood and technologically created humans, it's

coming in now.

And so you ask the question, how the hell did he know?

Well, I think we've talked about in previous interviews, there's two worlds.

There's the world of the cult and there's the world of the population.

And the cult is holding within its ranks, especially the inner circle, not

Bill and Joe down the lodge, they're holding within its ranks advanced

knowledge, which they don't want the public to know, of A, the agenda for

humanity that's unfolding through the ages, and B, the nature of reality

And these same people and families that are in this cult, have also

created the sources of information and communication, media, education, etc.,

that the population get their information and thus their perception of

from. And the idea is to only let them know as much as they need to know

to serve that without knowing and keep the real knowledge inside

the cult.

And if you have access to that cult, either through hard research and years

years of research, or you are part of it, you are

connected to it, then you can, like Aldous Huxley, you

can predict the future decades and decades and decades before it happens.

Because you know what the projected future is. You know where it's planned

go. And that's the difference between the inner circle of this cult that is

projecting long ahead and the population that is seeing events only

in the moment they happen.

And so this whole Iran thing we're seeing unfold now is something that's

the planning for a long time. And you've only got to look at Netanyahu. He's

been calling for it since 1996 and even before.

But it's not something that's just happened and is the whim of

Donald Trump. What they want you to think is it's the whim of Donald Trump,

because that brings it into a...

Oh, it just happened because of Trump. No, Trump's the vehicle.

Not a very bright vehicle, which is great for manipulating politicians.

That's why we have so many not bright politicians.

But it's just one step in a vast journey

towards the total subjugation of the mind of humans through AI.

In a recent video on your iconic YouTube channel, you made the connection of

Trump's circle of influence.

For instance, his father and his relationship with Netanyahu, the

Cohn, who was a lawyer for McCarthy, which I can't quite make that connection

yet.

So it makes sense that they would use Trump as this front man for a movement

that they ultimately wanted. And that's quite the long game.

And when you look at other world leaders that have been useful idiots in this

way, a lot of them do. Trump is the reality star. Ronald Reagan, the movie

Zelensky, the actor. Macron, the theater geek.

Who am I seeing? George Bush, the cheerleader. They have performance

and can be used in this way.

How long do you think that they have been making a mark of Trump?

Do you think the marriage between his daughter, Ivanka, and the Kushners was

part of it? Oh, absolutely.

You've hit on a really important point.

How far this is projected forward.

And when it comes to the actual players in the moment, Trump in this case,

mostly they don't know how far this is projected forward.

They're not, you know, the cult's not bothered if he thinks he's making the

decisions. Right.

It's like someone said about Margaret Thatcher, you know, the Iron Lady, oh,

she's completely in control.

You know, people have said to me who knew her, they said, all you had to do

Margaret. was to make her think it was her idea.

And you get anything you like through her, right?

And so these people are really kind of easy to manipulate, especially if

not very bright. And if they're bombastic and I make the decision, all

stuff, which is just an expression of something that Trump really is and

is not talked about enough. The man is extraordinarily insecure.

He's a frightened little boy in short trousers.

And all this bombast is to cover that up, not least to himself.

He's a frightened little boy.

And you can see fear in his eyes now with this Iran thing not going according

what he was told it was going to.

But, yeah, I mean, these things are put in place.

Over a long period of time, you know, I was talking to someone who was working

for the Canadian government. This is in the 1990s.

And they were like an administrator, quite high up.

And they were called out in the middle of the night, week

after week, to...

You know, when the free trade agreement, NAFTA, was being put into place,

the Canadian politicians were going to vote on it

after the thing had been agreed between Canada and the United States, etc.

But what she was called out in the middle of the night for was to take out

the version that...

the politicians would see and vote on, all those things that would make them

I'm not having this.

And the reason I'm telling you that is that she said, I saw on my,

you know, trips in the middle of the night, what she called a biorhythm

And it was a series of things that were going to happen in Canadian society.

And who would be in?

power in this point and this point and this point. And they invariably turned

out to be true with the passage of events.

So this is really a long -term plan.

Now, obviously, when there's public reactions or things happen, they'll

with it and they'll say, oh, we can't quite go for this now because they won't

have it.

So we'll wait and then we'll go again when we think we can get away with it.

That happens. Of course it happens.

But actually there is a plan leading to an end. And so you

look at a few things in terms of Trump.

First of all, he was a close buddy, to say the least,

of Jeffrey Epstein.

Jeffrey Epstein was involved, and he was a gopher, Jeffrey Epstein.

He was a gopher for Mossad and the CIA and stuff like that. And you can be a

gopher for this much deeper level of the cult and become very

rich and at your level very influential.

But you're still a gopher.

I've said many times, if you can see them, they're gophers.

Because the real people behind the scenes don't put themselves on public

display. So Trump's this close buddy of Epstein. Epstein's running a blackmail

operation. It's very clear that Trump's into this Epstein

network up to his neck.

And then suddenly, apparently out of nowhere, he announces

he's running for office.

running for president in 2015, 2016.

Donald Trump, everyone was laughing, weren't they? The media were laughing.

yeah, Donald Trump, he's running for president.

But I watched Trump during 2016 start

off in the primaries against the best part. It wasn't quite 20, but it was the

best part of 20 other candidates that wanted the...

Republican nomination.

And I watched them disappear and disappear and disappear and disappear.

And I thought, you know, this guy has all the look of a chosen one here.

And then he got the nomination.

And once he got the nomination at the Republican convention in 2016, was it?

Yeah. I thought, this guy's going to be president.

Because he had all the look of someone who's been selected.

And by this time, of course, he has a daughter who's married Yarid

Kushner. Yarid Kushner is a lifelong friend, literally since he was a kid,

of Benjamin Netanyahu, who was a close friend of Charles Kushner,

Yarid's father.

Then you have Donald Trump's father, Fred.

who was a close friend of Netanyahu when he was over in America as the

Israeli ambassador to the UN, etc.

And suddenly it all starts to come together.

You've got the Epstein Mossad CIA, absolutely dominant Mossad

blackmail operation. He's a friend of Trump.

Now Jared Kushner's married Trump's daughter. You've got the background with

Netanyahu and Kushner. You've got the background of Netanyahu and Fred

Trump. And suddenly, you know, it's an incredible little group, isn't it?

And what happens when he runs for president?

Sheldon Adelson.

Hands over $100 million.

Sheldon Adelson, who's got Zionism and Israel running through his DNA, or he

before he left us.

Now, in this run up to the second term, you've got another $100 million plus

from Miriam Adelson, Sheldon Adelson's wife.

Then you start, and this is a thing, you know, when I see people now

in the alternative media saying, oh, it's Israel, oh, it's

Israel, and Trump's controlled by Israel, I'm going, you mean you couldn't

it in 2015, 2016?

They don't want to see it. If I may.

There there's got to be a lot of Jared Kushner scattered around because they

couldn't have put all their eggs in Trump as the winner, which means there

to be many backup strategies.

There has to be several Jared Kushner's marrying people of influence and

someone's got a hit.

It's like it has to be scattered around the roulette board, so to speak.

And the optics of that at the time, she was pregnant with their third child. It

seemed very organic. Oh, he happens to have this level of influence.

And it seems that that was the strategy of Jeffrey Epstein is just collect

influential people and one of them is going to pop, right? Yeah, be a gopher.

Yeah. Well, they do have backups. I mean, when they have an election,

there's the one they really want.

And they do everything they can to get that one. And there's the one they

wouldn't prefer, but still good enough.

They'll still basically follow the same agenda.

And so what you then have, if you were bringing it round to Iran now, just by

coincidence, sits back in amazement, can't believe it, you had the peace

negotiations.

He said in quotes with Iran in the run up to this this war

conducted by Steve Witkoff, who's an ultra Zionist and

Trump's golf partner and acknowledged throughout Washington. It would seem as

say the least, not the brightest bulb in the box.

And you have Jared Kushner, who is who was the dominant one.

And Jared Kushner is basically an agent of Netanyahu, and Netanyahu is an agent

of the cult.

And so there was no way in the world that those

so -called peace talks were meant to do anything but fail.

And, you know, Iran could have agreed to everything they were asked to do

without any pushback at all.

and they'd still have attacked him because it's on the biorhythm chart that

is going to happen now.

And so when you look at, just as I've talked in the last few minutes,

what a close -knit group.

You've got the lawyer, Cohn, who was the mentor

of Donald Trump coming up through the real estate business, who was a...

an ultra -Zionist, and absolutely not by chance

was a lawyer to McCarthy.

You have Donald Trump's father, Fred Trump, close mate of Netanyahu.

Kushner's, Jared Kushner's brought up from a young kid having

Netanyahu come to stay at the house. In fact, he used to sleep in,

Yari Kushner's bedroom.

And so you have this tiny group of people, Epstein's another one,

and are all answerable to Israel.

And the thing about Israel is people point the finger at Israel.

But what I say to them is, yeah, okay, that's right. I've been doing it since

the mid -1990s.

But who controls Israel?

You know, if you hold the line at it's Israel manipulating Trump, on one level,

that's true.

But it's not the story. It's only the part of the story that plays

out. You have to ask who controls Israel and why is Israel

this tiny land in the Middle East?

Why is it so influential in terms of global events, which it is?

Because it's a front asset and a vehicle and a conduit

for this cult to bring mayhem to the Middle East and the wider world. That's

why.

But you've got to go back into the shadows and say, who controls Israel?

And then who controls the cult?

We talked about who controls the cult, and this is the hierarchy, and it is

perfectly summarized in that dollar bill

and reverse of the Great Seal of the United States with the pyramid and all

-seeing eye. The all -seeing eye is this force in this other dimension.

And the pyramid is the pyramid hierarchy of control that plays out into the

public arena.

And by the time you get down to this level of the pyramid, everything to the

general population looks random.

And it's like coincidence or whatever.

But actually, that which is transforming society and putting it into greater and

greater dystopia is not random.

It's long, carefully, and calculatedly planned.

So I want to take a quick break, David, just to grab a drink of water here,

reset, and then when I come back, I want to talk more about sort of where the

Epstein story has been completely swept under the rug now, given this whole

story, and also what is the endgame here? You talked about the endgame in a

recent video.

What is the end game in general? Is it AI total takeover and control?

And how does it play out with the people of Iran and this larger story?

And there's so much to unpack here. So let's just take a quick break, and we'll

be right back with David Icke.

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All right. We are back with the great David Icke, who's been writing about

we're now seeing since the 1990s. And he's right. Well, these influencers are

jumping online now, like posting information as if it's their own

the first time. It's like, no, no, no. This all originated with David back in

the 1990s, by the way. So maybe you should cite your sources.

But people don't want to do that. They don't know how to cite sources, I guess,

in 2026.

David, I want to talk about the Epstein sweep away because.

If you notice, what's totally vanished from the mainstream media headlines, not

that it was really ever there to begin with. I mean, the mainstream media was

largely blackholing the Epstein story to begin with.

But now it's gone completely, given the war with Iran and the minute -by -minute

updates on where things are playing out with the Ayatollah and Israel and the

United States. So are you surprised at all by the sweeping away of the Epstein

story?

No, because, again, you look at the level you are dealing with,

but realize it's part of a multilevel operation.

So at the level of Donald Trump, he is desperate for what's in those files

and what they will have taken time to remove, I'm sure, coming to public

attention because it's over if it does quite.

clearly.

And the other thing about the Epstein story is that it is about blackmail.

And, you know, you have these politicians who fall in...

Oh, yeah, but they're funded by AIPAC, and they're funded by

Israel, and so they do what they're told. Now, that is absolutely a level on

which it works.

If you want to keep getting the funding, mate, then you do what we want.

But for those that are a bit iffy on whether they would

go with some some vote, some support

on that basis alone, there's always blackmail.

And, you know, one of the reasons.

that there is so much paedophilia, first of all, in the upper echelons of

society. First of all, Satanism and paedophilia, and they are connected for

reasons of a much bigger picture.

The reason there's so much of it is, A, the Satanism is interacting in their

rituals with these other dimensional entities that I talk about.

But in terms of pedophilia, which is like connected to that whole thing as

the blackmail operation is extraordinarily powerful.

I mean, the abuse of kids is so horrific.

And it's not just, you know, the sexual abuse of kids. It's the violent abuse of

kids. It's the sacrificing of kids in these satanic rituals.

And it's so horrific.

I mean, you've got no chance of surviving if it comes out and you get

with it. Right. So the power of the

terror of a politician, of it coming out.

And what did Epstein have?

And I've talked to.

survivors of the Epstein network.

And they all talk about the cameras and the microphones.

So they gotcha. And, you know, I've been

researching this pedophilia, Satanism things since the

1990s, way back in the 1990s. And the same thing's happening here in Britain

terms of...

Blackmail. Once they got you, this is why they want

people in positions of political power and influence who've got

things that they want to hide. I once said about Bill Clinton, he's not

got skeletons in the cupboard. He's got whole freaking cemeteries, right? Right.

And because of that, he's...

We wouldn't want this to come out, Bill, would we?

Well, we can go back further. You know, right?

So you are in a situation of incredible power to influence

events by influencing support for legislation that suits your agenda.

And so what we've had is this, not just, I mean, I hear

people talk about, the Epstein network is the biggest pedophile network in

history. No, it's not.

No, no, it's not.

The pedophile network is global, just as the satanic network is global. It's all

connected to this cult, ultimately.

And thus, there are points where it comes to the surface in different

places from time to time, because it's kept under wraps brilliantly, actually.

And so you had the Epstein thing. That was when this global cult came to light

in terms of his network, which would have connected into the global network.

And you had the Jimmy Savile thing in Britain, very much involving the British

royal family, very much involved the royal family.

His, you know, very close friend was now King Charles.

And it's ironic that King Charles has now sent Prince Andrew, because of the

Epstein situation, off to some far -off part of

Britain, Norfolk, trying to, you know, keep him under wraps and keep him out of

the public eye.

And yet King Charles himself was a close associate, close friend of Jimmy

Savile, this BBC entertainer, who was...

not only a mega pedophile has been exposed in the mainstream, but was a

of children for the rich and famous.

And he was in the inner circle of the British royal family from the mid

invited in there by his own account by Lord Mountbatten, a close

friend of the Queen, who was a known pedophile. In fact, there are FBI

to that effect in America as well.

And so these gateways to the

death pit, as I call them, where they come to light, they're actually part of

this whole global web. And once you've got them, once you've got people on

tape or a microphone or whatever involving in this horror,

you've got them for life.

They're not...

going to say no to you you you are controlling how they vote what they say

of it i guess i'm can i can i just rewind the clock a little bit further

apologize for the interruption but i think you've really hit something on

roy cone bit who was a lawyer to donald trump roy cone

There are allegations that he went to cross -dressing sex parties with J.

Hoover in the 40s and the 50s, who was the head of the FBI, which would then

further put these sex cults embedded into the intelligence agency and

of power.

J. Edgar Hoover had withheld communist infiltration in the State Department

the Truman administration.

And it sort of reported this to the Truman administration.

Nothing happened.

So we see we can even rewind the clock even further than that.

And then you put that directly. I guess I'm kind of obsessed with this Ivanka

marriage and Roy Cohn lawyer.

Like it's coming at all sides.

You know, can you explain that a little bit more?

Yeah. Well, you see.

You have this other dimensional force where it's coming from.

And the global cult, this global network of secret societies, fiercely

compartmentalist, by the way. I mean, most people, even within the cult, don't

know the big picture.

I mean, look at the Freemasons. Look at all these secret societies.

They have degrees.

Degrees of what? Degrees of knowledge.

And you only get the...

the next level of knowledge when the next level thinks you are safe enough to

have it. So this is how it's compartmentalized.

And so this network has been in place

longer than the CIA, longer than the FBI, longer

than all these...

law enforcement intelligence agencies.

It goes back, you go back into Elizabethan times in Britain

to see when the British intelligence was emerging.

It goes back, you know, and then some beyond that.

What I'm saying, therefore, is that these intelligence agencies have

not been infiltrated.

by this cult. They were created by it. They are the cult.

And so what they have is a lot of genuine people who go in

and they do their job. And the way the whole thing works, it's like, it's

a pyramid structure.

And it's founded on imposition and

acquiescence. So you go to the top of the pyramid and you go to this other

dimensional force.

And it imposes its will to be played out upon the inner circle of this

global cult.

That inner circle acquiesces to the imposition and then

imposes it on the next level and the next level and the next level as you go

through the levels of the cult.

And therefore, you have a situation

where the different levels of society, not just the cult, but

it's infiltrated all these different levels of society, but the society in

general, where not long after you come down from that pyramid peak and the

circle of the cult, you're starting to hit people.

who have no idea there is a cult, never mind what the agenda of it is.

But the same sequence continues.

Imposition from the level above, acquiescence to that imposition by the

below, which then imposes upon the level below it, and it comes all the way down

society to the point where you have the mass of the population.

And if we, as a population in general,

acquiesce without question and pushback to that

level of the pyramid that is imposing upon us, which is law enforcement,

politics, etc., etc., corporations, then we...

create a circuit, we complete a circuit, like an electrical circuit, between

the upper levels of this pyramid cult and the general population, in which the

will of that tiny few people is imposed upon the whole of the population.

So it's all imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence. So if you look

at an intelligence agency, of course, There are many genuine people within it.

But the people that are put in the positions of power to dictate the agenda

and the decisions, the real major decisions of that organization,

CIA, MI5, MI6, whatever, Mossad, they are cult people

and they impose the agenda.

And the other levels acquiesce to it and impose it on level below them and so on

and so forth. And so if you look at it, you don't need to control that

many positions in an organization to dictate what that organization does.

Because if you control the real positions of power that are dictating

and dictating decisions.

then you know that the rest of the organization, made up of often genuine

people, are going to acquiesce to that power structure.

So you don't need to control, for instance, every police officer to

decide if someone's going to be arrested or not arrested or protected.

You need to control that level of the organization that decides.

if a prosecution against someone is going to go ahead or not go ahead.

And we've seen that many, many times in the whole Epstein situation.

And my goodness, did we see it with Jimmy Savile, where the

police were well aware of what was going on, but decisions

were made, shall we say, at a higher level that the...

The thing was not followed through because the cult protects its own.

This is kind of the situation with Epstein.

What you do, and the cult has a ruthless,

it's absolutely ruthless.

So if you're serving it and you serving it is beneficial

to it,

then they'll watch your back.

They'll protect you no matter what.

The point where they can't protect you anymore without the

possibility,

Savile was the classic, of the Seth Pitt opening and people seeing

a much deeper level of what's going on, then they'll hang you out to dry.

they'll get rid of you or at least take you out of public circulation in some

way because they are absolutely ruthless.

You know, these people that seem to be in so much power and have so much money,

only why they serve the cult. Once the cult thinks, no, it's in our interest

to cut them loose, they will.

And no problem, because they're just gophers to this inner circle.

And if it becomes the best

thing from the cult's point of view to cut and run with Trump, then they will.

If they think protecting him and keeping him in power so that he'll continue

to... do his role that we want for him, then they'll watch his back and make

sure that he's protected.

But it's a whole different way of looking at the world and

how the power structure works. Because if you only look at it on the level of

daily events and politics, you're never going to get it. Because that's way, way

out from where it's coming from.

I guess, David, we'll get you out of here on this, I guess, sort of final

question, which is, as we kind of bring it back to Iran and this war and this AI

control and everything that they're pushing on us, how do you see, as we get

caught up in the daily headlines, you know, Trump says we've won the war.

Then the Zionists say, no, you haven't. You've got to keep going.

The Ayatollah says we're going to fight till the death, an eye for an eye. So we

get caught up in all of these back and forth.

Down here, but not up here. So where do you think that this ends?

And what will this new sort of system look like for all of us with this AI

control as this Iran war shifts us into this new paradigm?

Well, another thing on that subject, we talked about how focus of

attention, because one of the great foundations of this cult is...

Control of perception, which means control of behavior, but also, and it's

connected, control of attention.

So they're creating dramas all over the place.

So, oh, my God, have you seen what's happened now? Oh, my God, what's Trump

now? It's all drama.

And, of course, what's happening now in Iran is a massive drama.

So it's an attention.

A tractor, a magnet, obviously, understandably.

And what I would say to anyone is when something massive is happening, whether

it's 9 -11 or the invasion of Iran, lift

your eyes from the attention magnet and look at what else is going on over here.

Because while you're looking there, lots is going on over here.

I started out talking about Trump having two major roles. He has others, but

major roles. One is trashing the current system and the other is facilitating AI

coming in.

Well, obviously, with what's happening in Iran and so many other things, he's

trashing the system.

But he's also facilitating the whole AI thing.

And while we're focused on

Iran, we're not seeing that that is moving on faster and faster and faster.

noticed that Elon Musk has an opinion on everything, but

he's not said anything that I've seen anyway, unless it's very recently, about

Iran. Oh, it's not happening in his world.

Yeah. No, because what he's been doing, what he's turned X into, and that's what

it was meant to be.

That's why they allowed him to buy it, along with many of the other usual

suspects. He's turned it into an AI promotion, propaganda

platform. Constant.

It's just like machine gun fire now.

And the idea is that, you know, you trash the system, but you've got to

bring in the new one.

And what I'm seeing...

Daily, all the time, is the ever quicker stepping stones towards that end,

which is to connect the human brain to artificial intelligence.

Talked about this in previous interviews we've had.

And to basically fuse AI with the human brain. So

AI becomes the human mind.

I've seen Musk in the last few days celebrating the fact that there's

now more than 10 ,000 Starlink and SpaceX satellites

in orbit with tens of thousands to come.

Jeff Bezos is coming up in the background

as well with this.

being sold to us as its internet connection, Starlink.

He's also, this anti -system rebel, got a

SpaceX contract with the Pentagon and government for something

called StarShield, which is about basically surveillance, which

connects into Palantir and Peter Thiel, etc.

It's all connected.

I mean, they're all connected.

And so you're seeing this satellite explosion

on the grounds of it's an Internet

system.

But what we need to realize is that

electromagnetism

is not just the electromagnetic field of the planet.

It's also consciousness.

The human mind at the human level is actually an electromagnetic field.

And some documents, CIA documents, have been circulating on the Internet

recently, basically to that extent.

You know, I've been talking about the fact that the human body is a biological

computer and the consciousness is part of the whole setup

as an electromagnetic field. The brain is just a processor of information. It's

not where consciousness comes from. That's why they can't find consciousness

the brain.

It's an electromagnetic field.

And you also have collectively these...

And 5G, and now Trump's gave the big go ahead to 6G. Of course he has. 6G is a

big, big, massive turning point in all this.

And they're pouring out 5G, 6G in the cities and the towns.

And what is that? It's an electromagnetic field.

And then you have the low orbit satellites I'm talking about, which are

essential for a global.

technologically generated electromagnetic field and through that

electromagnetism is planned to come indeed I would say it's already coming

frequencies information frequencies that are creating what

I call the hive mind the you the the human hive mind there was a Princeton

recently that was circulating on the Internet. Actually, it came out in

2025, but the last few weeks it's been circulating suddenly on the Internet

where they've found that the human brain

is generating an ultra low frequency electromagnetic field

and that human brains are connected so that you can.

Over vast, what we perceive as distance, another story,

the brains are all connected. So even at that level, there is

already some kind of hive mind.

What they're seeking to do is to really make that far more extreme and

effective through technology.

The fact that the covid fake vaccine and other sources now have been shown to

be generating self -replicating nanotechnology in the body, in the

self -replicating systems.

They, I would strongly suggest, are to receive the hive mind

and it's getting into the brain.

including something called graphene oxide, which is a relatively new

substance, at least in the public arena.

And it has two really big effects in terms

of what I'm talking about.

One, it's a superconductor. This is the nano level.

It's a superconductor of electricity.

And what does the brain do? It processes information electrically. If you can

start to mess with that, then you are dictating the way it processes

into what?

Human perception.

And the other thing that it does, graphene oxide, is it amplifies.

electromagnetic fields.

If you come into contact with an electromagnetic field and you've got

oxide in the body, you'll be affected by that field much more powerfully.

So this is what's being created.

And you've got people like Ray Kurzweil at Google, this Google executive who

Bill Gates, you know, says he's fantastic, that's how bad he is, talking

about AI and what AI is, where it's going.

And some years ago now, he talked about the fact that AI would be connected to

the human brain. The human brain would be connected to the cloud, as he called

it. What is the cloud?

Well, it's the cloud as we perceive the cloud, but it's also this vast global

electromagnetic field that they're building.

And that once that connection, AI connection to the brain is made, ai

will do these are his words more and more of human thinking until human

is negligible deleted really in in in fact and this is what's unfolding

and so you know i can get a bit frustrated here and there when i'm

elements of the vast elements of the alternative media that is focusing on

that or the other and not even beginning to focus enough on what's unfolding

around us, this new system.

Okay, they talk about the 15 -minute cities and the digital currency, all

absolutely fantastic that that's getting circulated. But this hive mind is the

way they're planning to take complete control of human perception, human

thought. human emotional response and thus human behavior.

And, you know, I'm seeing Elon Musk going from a few

years ago, oh, AI, it could be the end of humanity, to being its chief

And it's all going to be fantastic and it'd be wonderful and people are going

get this guaranteed basic income and it's going to be...

a lot of money and they're going to get, you know, all that they want. It's

going to be fantastic and AI is going to do all the work.

Well, that's the first time in known human history that this elite is at all

interested in the population having abundance because that's not the plan.

If you have abundance, you have choice.

And what is freedom?

Freedom is the number of choices you can make.

The fewer choices you can make, the less freedom you have. The more choices you

can make, the more freedom you have.

They don't want us to be free. They don't want us to have freedom.

So they must control choice and the number of choices we can make. And in

society, as it's been structured, those choices are overwhelmingly dictated

by how much money you have or don't have.

So there's no way they want us to have abundance. That's the last thing they

want. They want us to have scarcity because scarcity equals dependency

control. And that's why the mass of the population has always been in a state of

dependency on the few, never more so than now.

So we need to, I would suggest, see this bigger picture.

and not get caught in the myopia. Okay, yeah, look at the myopia. It's

important. Look at what's happening in Iran. Absolutely, it's important.

But know that it's one level of it, and it's not where it's coming from. It's

certainly not coming from Trump.

The great David Icke. I mean, I could listen to you for hours, unfortunately.

We've got to run, unfortunately, until we shut off the power bills here around

this place.

I want to say I want everyone to read The Roadmap, David's latest book,

if you're caught in the minutia, the myopia, great.

But take that extra level and go up and see how it's all interconnected.

And everything that you said is absolutely right.

I'm just kind of reeling with a whole bunch of these things. Well, yes, and

very validating because I see these, like, could Diana have been right? Could

they have done this with Ivanka? And what about Ray Cohn? And you're just

yes, yes.

And so when I'm feeling, oh, my gosh, that's too crazy, right? And then it

makes so much sense when you lay out the entire map on the table. So we really

appreciate that.

David, I thank you.

Thank you so much. Great to see you, as always, and we really appreciate your

work. Thank you so much. It's a privilege. It's a real privilege. It's a

pleasure. Thank you very much. See you. Thank you, David.

Well, again, I could talk to David Icke for hours, and I have in other

interviews, but I just could listen to him for hours because it's incredible,

his depth of knowledge on these subjects. And I just want to say I'm

because I was messaging Philip during the show here, or the team, because...

Earlier in the week, we interviewed Jesse Beltran and Edward Zoll

on these MI6 whistleblowers who laid out this graphene oxide in the blood as a

result of these vaccines, which they are being activated and using this

nanotechnology inside the body for telepathy. I was sitting there saying to

myself, God, David Icke knows.

Right, he nailed that. He wasn't even in on that. He wasn't even in on that, and

he knows that.

It's crazy. It's crazy to be able to use it as a hive mind connection here.

It's so crazy. Anyway. Yeah. And, you know, he speaks about X as a control

system. But at the same time, his voice on X, I find really comforting. And when

I get myself worked up about something and, oh, my God, this and the Federal

Reserve and I'm going to say something shitty to somebody. And then you run

to his account. It's like this is part of it. Calm yourself down. This is a

distraction. And I really appreciate his voice. So please follow him on.

The platforms that still allow.

Yeah. And we talked to Colonel Towner Watkins, obviously, also about this

idea, you know, the strategy of tension. So I have to be reminded of that's

something I told her as well, which is like, thank you, because any time I'm

sort of getting myself worked up in the minutia, like I just kind of have to

remember I need like a smack upside the head that this is all part of the plan.

Yes. You know, although sometimes fun to empower yourself with anger on X. I

don't want to give up.

Truly, truly.

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Well, thank you so much for joining us. We will be back tomorrow. We really

appreciate your conversation. We need each other at a time like this. Think

while you still can.

We'll see you here tomorrow.