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{\an8}["I Ngooku Moemoeaa" by TE KAAHU playing]
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{\an8}[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[Miki in English] We wouldn't have
to protect land that...
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that was stolen from us anyway,
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and I wouldn't have
had our son down there.
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Up your fucking dosage of olanzapine,
for gods' sakes, Miki!
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I heard my dad singing.
It's actually fucking him.
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[Ahorangi in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[in NZSL]
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[in English] Share a memory with your boy.
Memories bring us back.
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{\an8}Please help me to find my son.
[in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[in English] Fuck you, Kaia.
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No, sorry, I had to.
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Wish you'd all just fucking told me
who he was from the beginning.
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[in English] I've got this, Kaia.
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Drop the bag!
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- Shut the fuck up!
- Or what, bro?
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[Adrian in English] There's a note
in there from your mum.
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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[singing in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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[defibrillator whirrs]
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[defibrillator thuds]
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[bomb exploding]
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[bomb exploding]
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[crowd screaming]
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[alarm bell ringing]
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[in English] Hey, hey.
No, no, no. You can't go...
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[reporter] We're getting reports
of at least
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three people dead and many more injured,
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in a blast in central New Plymouth
this afternoon.
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The explosion reportedly went off
at Puke Ariki at around 2:15.
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Some are already calling it
a terrorist attack.
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- [seagulls mewing]
- [waves crashing]
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{\an8}[Miki in Te Reo Maori]
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[in English] Do you remember that play?
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I think about those words all the time.
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Sam says hi.
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He gave me a ride back up.
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[Kaia] Mm-hmm.
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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- [Kaia in English] Don't be an arsehole.
- [chuckles]
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I'm not being an arsehole.
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That's the rules now.
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You want me to follow the rules,
I'm following the rules.
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{\an8}[Kaia in Te Reo Maori]
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[Kaia in English] No one forced you to go.
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Nah...
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just a team of five million.
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[chuckles]
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[dog barking]
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[Miki]
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{\an8}- [in English] That's not fair, Miki.
- [in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[Miki]
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[in English] I'm proud
of what I did, Kaia.
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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[in English] This isn't even
about that bullshit.
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Your three-year-old son wanted
his father. You weren't here.
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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[in English] You're acting like I was
locked up for life or something.
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[in English]
When all those other parents at kohanga
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{\an8}found out where his father was.
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None of their kids
were allowed to go near him.
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He was left, to play by himself
for weeks Miki.
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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[sullen music playing]
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[Miki sighs]
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[in English] You knew...
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I had nowhere else to take him.
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{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
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[sullen music continues]
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[in English] I know
you're a good dad, Miki.
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Your son adores you.
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[sighs]
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But you,
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we... we have to be more than just
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good.
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[dramatic music playing]
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{\an8}[Huia singing in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}- [Huia in Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
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[man speaking Te Reo Maori]
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[man speaking Te Reo Maori]
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[crowd speaking Te Reo Maori]
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[crowd speaking Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[man 2 in Te Reo Maori]
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[sombre music playing]
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[Gary clears throat]
[in English] Small world.
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I remember you
from the funeral for my niece.
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- Kaia, isn't it?
- Yeah.
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[Gary] Uh, it took me a minute
to put two and two together.
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Uh, Gary.
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Um, I... I didn't want anything
to happen to his gear, so I...
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I took it up to my store.
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How did you know Miki?
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[Gary] He used to cut my hair.
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I met your boy
a couple of times too, Tyson.
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- Um, Tyrone.
- [Gary] Oh, sorry.
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[sombre music continues]
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You okay? You need to sit down?
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[Kaia exhales]
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[breathes heavily]
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You know [chuckles]
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she used to come up to my store...
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after school.
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Nine years old,
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and she'd tinker about
on all the different instruments.
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[chuckles]
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She was noisy,
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and she was hilarious. [chuckles]
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Yeah, she'd... she'd stay for hours
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before I'd take her home.
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And all of a sudden, uh,
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stopped.
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[sombre music continues]
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God, you know I missed that.
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And she grew up.
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Stopped coming over.
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Stopped talking to me.
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Yeah, Willa could always make you feel-
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if she'd walk into a room and she'd-
even her eyes would light up.
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You know, she just wanted to
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learn something from you.
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You know, like playing the piano
or mixing an 8-track.
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Yeah. And she'd just eat it up.
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Uh, and she made me feel...
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seen.
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[sombre music continues]
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[exhales heavily]
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She could be inspiring.
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She could do that.
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I don't think I ever gave her
enough credit for that.
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[Gary] Those five years
have been the quietest of my life.
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Just sitting around in that shop.
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Waiting for her to,
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walk back through the door.
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We fought.
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And I left her.
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She was right there. [sobs]
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- [exhales]
- [Gary] Um.
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You want to...
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come up and, uh, grab his things?
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[Kaia] Yeah.
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[man speaking Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[gentle music playing]
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[Hinewai in English] Conrad!
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Con! [sighs heavily]
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[cellphone key clicking]
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{\an8}[cellphone keys clicking]
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[cellphone chiming]
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[cellphone chiming]
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[cellphone chiming]
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{\an8}[Hinewai exhales]
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[cellphone key clicking]
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[Tane] You in here?
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I'm on break in five
and I need to hit the bank.
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Want to pick me up a cake?
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Want to tell me why you're leaving?
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[Tane chuckles]
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You ever feel like you're gasping for air?
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[Tane] Mm-hmm.
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That's been me for the last 20 years.
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I've been married for 20 years.
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And we've had some great times, you know.
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Times when our house
has felt so full of love,
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it could burst.
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And he is so kind.
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To everyone. You know,
to the iwi, to the boys,
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to me.
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In that order?
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No, I don't blame him, you know.
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We were high school sweethearts.
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Well, we got together after high school.
I kept him at arm's length.
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- Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen.
- [Hinewai chuckles]
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[solemn music playing]
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We lost our first baby.
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- To SIDS.
- [Tane] Oh. Oh dear.
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He was on his first year on the rig
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and we couldn't afford
to take any time off.
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I tried to give him CPR
and I didn't know how.
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You were so young.
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You know, he never blamed me for it.
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I wanted him to blame me for it.
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[solemn music continues]
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Pepe was so little.
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He didn't even have a name.
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You know, I should have been
able to save that baby.
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I told Ti about Rodney.
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Is this me trying to make it up to him,
that's why I'm leaving.
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[solemn music fades]
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I thought so.
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I just won 50 bucks.
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- Fuck you
- [Tane laughs]
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- Go buy me a cake.
- I already made you one.
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[chuckles, sniffles]
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["Garden" by Fly My Pretties
& Anna Coddington playing]
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{\an8}[cellphone keys clicking]
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{\an8}? Lay me to sleep in this bed ?
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{\an8}? Soft and silent I am free ?
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? Come back to life as I rest ?
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[bomb exploding]
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? Let the night bend over me ?
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? This is not the world I know ?
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? This wind blows with a strange scent ?
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? I watch my garden grow ?
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? Dark and low ?
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? Its body bent ?
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- [door opens]
- [song ends]
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[door closes]
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{\an8}[Kui in Te Reo Maori]
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{\an8}[Liam in Te Reo Maori]
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[interviewer in English] So just to
confirm before we came in
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that you've been given
your Bill of Rights.
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[Liliu] That's correct.
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My name is Liliu Brown.
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My rank is Senior Constable.
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I made an initial statement yesterday
and I consent to this official interview.
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Okay, well we haven't
started the interview yet.
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So before we get in, I just thought
we'd go through some talking points. Okay?
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[door knocks]
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- [lawyer] Come in.
- [door opens]
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So you've been a police officer
for close on to eight years now.
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- Correct.
- You're stationed in New Plymouth.
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And you're also a member
of the Taranaki Armed Defender Squad.
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- Is that correct?
- [Liliu] Correct.
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How long have you been
a member of this squad?
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Nine months.
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So you're proficient
with the handling of Glock pistols
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and Bushmaster rifles.
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That's correct.
251
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,040
You've been described by your peers
and superiors as level-headed,
252
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,770
focused,
253
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,480
and fair.
254
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,540
You're well respected
255
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,970
in this region.
256
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,520
Is this the first time that you've, uh,
257
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,940
discharged your weapon in the field?
258
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,160
- Yes.
- Okay.
259
00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:26,560
Look, Constable Brown.
260
00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:30,800
This interview is to record
your account of the events
261
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,260
leading up to the incident,
262
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,360
at the New Plymouth Hospital.
263
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,760
An incident that took place under
extreme and unprecedented circumstances
264
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,190
where the threat level
was immeasurably high.
265
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,950
So at any point, if you just
need to take a break, okay,
266
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,440
you just let me know.
267
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,160
So on October 28th, you were partnered
with Constable Adrian Young.
268
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,880
{\an8}You were mentoring
in the tuakana teina capacity
269
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,120
to aid his return to the front line.
270
00:19:58,121 --> 00:20:00,759
You were tasked with this
because of your outstanding record
271
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,520
- as a senior constable.
- I shot a man.
272
00:20:03,521 --> 00:20:05,479
I thought a man was going to
273
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,439
- kill me, and so I shot him.
- [lawyer] No, Constable.
274
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,490
No, no, no, no.
275
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,320
That... that's my statement.
276
00:20:09,321 --> 00:20:11,999
Okay, and because I shot him,
a woman died.
277
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,600
Her name was Hinewai Smith.
278
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,000
Okay, she was killed
because I did the wrong thing
279
00:20:17,001 --> 00:20:17,999
and she did the right thing.
280
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,199
- She was killed in a terrorist attack.
- [Liliu] She was killed
281
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,880
because I didn't do my job.
282
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,880
My job is to protect life and property.
I did neither of those things.
283
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,920
That is my statement.
284
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,450
Well, thank you
for your honesty, Constable.
285
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,600
Are you ready to do the interview?
286
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,960
Time and date is 30th October, 2025.
287
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,840
Thursday, 9:26 am.
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00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,800
I'm Detective Inspector Nick Temple
from Central Auckland.
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00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,320
I'm here in New Plymouth
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00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,720
to investigate a police shooting,
a shooting that involves Constable Brown.
291
00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:01,800
As you're aware, you have powers
afforded to you as a police officer.
292
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,880
We have to investigate you
and your use of those powers.
293
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,400
{\an8}[Miki in Te Reo Maori]
294
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,730
[Nick in English] Specifically, how
it pertains to the death of Miki Williams.
295
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,960
[indistinct chatter]
296
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,360
[unsettling music playing]
297
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,540
{\an8}[Hinewai in Te Reo Maori]
298
00:21:34,331 --> 00:21:38,799
[in English] Uh, surely
someone else can do it.
299
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,420
{\an8}[Hinewai in Te Reo Maori]
300
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,880
[Conrad in English] Oi, Liam.
301
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,760
{\an8}[Liam in Te Reo Maori]
302
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,330
[door lock beeping]
303
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,920
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
304
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,700
[Conrad in English] Oh.
305
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,090
[door lock beeping]
306
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,080
Hey, boys. Are you okay?
307
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,120
- Yeah, it's... it's the wrong way.
- [Conrad] Liam.
308
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,250
[door closes]
309
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,520
- [indistinct chatter]
- [unsettling music continues]
310
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,890
[Conrad] Liam.
311
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,730
Liam.
312
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,880
What are you doing in here?
313
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,210
This is a crime scene.
314
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,690
Oh.
315
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,460
Where did you get that, son?
316
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,850
It's my mum's.
317
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,210
[Conrad] Sorry.
318
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,690
- Let's go.
- [Liliu] Hey.
319
00:22:50,991 --> 00:22:53,079
I know you.
320
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,640
[unsettling music continues]
321
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,620
You're going to need this to get out.
322
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,970
Thanks.
323
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,160
I think she could have saved him.
324
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,260
Sorry for your loss, boys.
325
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,520
[sombre music playing]
326
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:29,560
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
327
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,170
[door opens]
328
00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:37,410
[door closes]
329
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,540
[Tane in English] Excuse me.
330
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,040
You boys want to come in?
331
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,250
Yeah.
332
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,330
[door closes]
333
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,800
He's going to be fine.
334
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,440
[sombre music continues]
335
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,240
{\an8}[man in Te Reo Maori]
336
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,920
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
337
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,360
{\an8}[crowd speaking Te Reo Maori]
338
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,640
[sombre music continues]
339
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,200
[sombre music continues]
340
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,960
- [chuckles]
- [chuckles]
341
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,940
[in English] We wagged school one day.
342
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,610
Economics.
343
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,680
Oh, we were both shit at it.
344
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,560
[chuckles]
345
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,320
We were friends at first.
346
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,810
She was beautiful.
347
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,490
Her laugh.
348
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,020
She kissed me on those steps.
349
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,760
You're never here.
350
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,800
Even when you are here, you're not here.
351
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,920
[music becomes tense]
352
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,800
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
353
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,680
[tense music continues, fades]
354
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,000
[woman crying]
355
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,040
[man speaking Te Reo Maori]
356
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,120
[solemn music playing]
357
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520
[inaudible]
358
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,640
{\an8}[in NZSL]
359
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,360
[solemn music continues]
360
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,640
[inaudible]
361
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,840
{\an8}[in NZSL]
362
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,160
[solemn music continues]
363
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,840
[solemn music fades]
364
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,360
[sombre music playing]
365
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,600
Stop now or I'll shoot!
I said stop now, Miki! Stop now!
366
00:31:38,601 --> 00:31:40,199
{\an8}- [in Te Reo Maori]
- [Liliu in English] Stop now! Stop now!
367
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,250
[gunshot firing]
368
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,160
[Nick] So it was in his hand
when he was shot?
369
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,050
Yes.
370
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,610
Constable Cole confirms that when he
arrived on the scene your gun was drawn.
371
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,640
Prior to that my hand was on my taser.
372
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,120
And yet you chose not to use it?
373
00:32:07,961 --> 00:32:10,599
{\an8}[Miki in Te Reo Maori]
374
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,890
[in English] Get your hand
out of the bag now!
375
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,360
[speaking Te Reo Maori]
376
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,180
[in English] It means demon.
377
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,810
I don't understand.
378
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,970
Neither did I.
379
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,860
And now that's all I can hear.
380
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,010
[Nick] What are you saying?
Mr Williams called you a demon?
381
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,050
Not a great reason
to shoot someone, is it?
382
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,430
He was behaving in a manner
that was quite intimidating.
383
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,880
The same man threatened Constable Young.
384
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,120
[sombre music continues]
385
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Aren't we trained to see people
in a certain way?
386
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,400
[man speaking Te Reo Maori]
387
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,800
[sombre music fades]
388
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
[man distantly speaking Te Reo Maori]
389
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,990
[in English] You're one
of the last ones to see her alive.
390
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,560
[man distantly speaking Te Reo Maori]
391
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,720
[in English] Okay.
392
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,630
- [crowd speaking Te Reo Maori]
- [man speaking Te Reo Maori]
393
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,090
[in English] I had no idea
it was even happening.
394
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,560
I had no idea my wife
was leading an evacuation.
395
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Had no idea my son wanted to top himself
by jumping off that bloody building.
396
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160
{\an8}[Huia in Te Reo Maori]
397
00:34:00,951 --> 00:34:04,639
[in English] One of you guys
saved his life...
398
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,240
[melancholic music playing]
399
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,450
...while I was down here.
400
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,370
My partner.
401
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,019
Why am I even talking to you?
402
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,440
You shot an unarmed Maori man.
403
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,499
Nothing will ever change.
404
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:30,209
[sighs]
405
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,159
[man speaking Te Reo Maori]
406
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,390
[in English] Adrian should
never have been a cop.
407
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,760
No temperament for it.
408
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,080
But what I saw as a weakness in him,
409
00:34:49,081 --> 00:34:50,638
probably saved your boy's life.
410
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,840
[melancholic music continues]
411
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,239
The man I shot?
412
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,480
Your wife saw something in him.
413
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,740
Something I couldn't see.
414
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,240
{\an8}[man in Te Reo Maori]
415
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,670
{\an8}- [crowd speaking Te Reo Maori]
- [man in Te Reo Maori]
416
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,120
{\an8}[crowd in Te Reo Maori]
417
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,520
- [waves crashing]
- [sombre music playing]
418
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,680
[in English] This way.
419
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,880
[indistinct chatter]
420
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,520
[dramatic music playing]
421
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,240
{\an8}[Chris in Cantonese]
422
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,880
{\an8}[dramatic music ends]
423
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,040
[in English] I want to help people, Chris.
424
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,720
I want to do good.
425
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:39,800
No fucking way, bro. Look at you.
426
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960
- [wok clattering]
- [pensive music playing]
427
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,690
Chris.
428
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,610
Chris.
429
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,910
There's a family here
that want to speak with you.
430
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,120
Pretty busy in here.
431
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,810
Is it a complaint?
432
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,170
No.
433
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,810
It's about Adrian.
434
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,040
[Chris speaking Cantonese]
435
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,930
[in English] Chris.
436
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,320
- Liam.
- [Chris] Liam.
437
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,250
- Conrad.
- [Chris] Conrad.
438
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,110
- Timoti.
- Timoti. Chris, pleased to meet you.
439
00:37:43,111 --> 00:37:45,999
Looks like you've got your hands
full here today, so we won't
440
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,230
- take up too much of your time.
- No, it's fine.
441
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Uh, my son here, he knew your brother.
442
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,240
Okay. How'd you know him?
443
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,960
Oh, he was a ring-in
for our basketball team some weekends.
444
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,410
Yeah.
445
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,480
Um, your brother was
with my son before the bomb went off.
446
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,010
He, um...
447
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,370
My wife,
448
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,230
knew him from when he was
recovering in hospital.
449
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,680
And on the 28th, she asked him
if he could check on our son.
450
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Your brother saved our boy's life,
451
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,350
before he then saved a whole bunch
of other people down at the site.
452
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,020
We just wanted you to know.
453
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,560
He was a real good dude.
454
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:34,400
[dramatic music playing]
455
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,450
Thank you.
456
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,450
Thank you.
457
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,360
[dramatic music continues]
458
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,480
We didn't want to leave it in the van.
459
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,400
[music becomes pensive]
460
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,040
Um, the... the clippers?
461
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,530
Uh.
462
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,250
Here.
463
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,120
- Gave them a bit of oil.
- Thanks.
464
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000
- I don't...
- Oh, any
465
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,000
- whanau might want-
- No.
466
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,980
[Gary] I'll find a home for it all.
467
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,850
Um.
468
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,760
She had, uh, this on her...
469
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,130
when she died.
470
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,650
I gave it to her.
471
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,520
She was here on the 28th before...
472
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,160
You played her a recording, too?
473
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:52,920
[Gary] Her parents singing, yeah.
474
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,570
I don't know if she called
the number or not.
475
00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:58,980
Her phone never turned up.
476
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,370
The thing is, um...
477
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,200
{\an8}she didn't get a tangi.
478
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,400
You know, uh, I mean, all of this today,
479
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,320
the, uh, lifting of tapu,
you know, that's all great.
480
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,730
But she, um...
481
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,220
I mean, you were at the funeral.
482
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,840
I was all very,
483
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,600
vanilla.
484
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,720
[pensive music continues]
485
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,480
I liked the song you played for her.
486
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,640
- [chuckles] "See the Ministers face".
- Yeah.
487
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,120
I mean, all her muso friends were there.
488
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,800
It was a lovely service.
489
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,300
Yeah, but don't, don't you think...
490
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,520
that he would want her to have a,
you know, a proper Maori send-off?
491
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,430
Isn't... isn't that something
that she would want?
492
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,840
You know, so that she can...
493
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,090
not get,
494
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,930
stuck,
495
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,650
in the...
496
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,680
I don't know. Is there a...
497
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,680
No.
498
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,210
Look...
499
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,400
who cares what he wants? He wasn't around.
500
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,430
I don't think she was actually
searching for him.
501
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,880
What you gave her...
502
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,560
I let her down.
503
00:41:19,561 --> 00:41:21,599
No.
504
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,560
[Gary sobbing]
505
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,200
She came back.
506
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,520
[pensive music continues]
507
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,970
[Hinewai] Son...
508
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,220
I just want to make sure you're okay.
509
00:41:52,221 --> 00:41:54,879
Tell you, I can't wait to see you tonight.
510
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,720
There's nowhere any of us have to be.
511
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,400
It'll just be us four.
512
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,170
Eating.
513
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:01,770
Chilling.
514
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,130
Arguing.
515
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,530
Being together.
516
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,650
Thing is, something's happened
at the hospital today.
517
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,920
It isn't an easy thing to fix.
518
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,650
I'm doing my best.
519
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,040
We're all doing our best.
520
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,280
I just want to say to you...
521
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:23,280
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
522
00:42:23,361 --> 00:42:26,479
[in English] Most things in life,
523
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,920
we have to watch all the time.
524
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,960
Look and look again,
525
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,820
just to make sure they're okay.
526
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,910
I never told you,
and I should have told you,
527
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,400
that, that picture you drew of me,
528
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,560
showed me how you see me.
529
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,720
How I see you.
530
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,040
And how you see the world.
531
00:42:45,041 --> 00:42:49,559
- It definitely said something about life...
- Can you make me
532
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,080
a cup of tea please?
533
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,230
...about how those spaces between us
are the things that matter.
534
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,800
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
535
00:42:58,431 --> 00:43:03,159
[in English]
Maybe it's all about maintenance, eh?
536
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,600
[pensive music continues]
537
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,160
It's all about feeding each other,
washing the dishes,
538
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,360
sleeping, eating, going to work,
539
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,360
talking, loving,
540
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,400
and just paying attention.
541
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,520
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
542
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,400
[in English] Con, come home tonight, okay?
543
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,000
{\an8}[in Te Reo Maori]
544
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,150
["Home, Land & Sea"
by Trinity Roots playing]
545
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,800
? From the tail of the fish to the tip ?
546
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,320
? Money all 'round this world ?
547
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:46,720
Want a piece of this, yeah ?
548
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,040
? Seems like nothing ?
549
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,690
? Nothing known ?
550
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,880
? 's gonna stop it ?
551
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,650
? I know it ?
552
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,880
? Can feel it ?
553
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,320
? From a boy to a man ?
554
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560
? And my memories in between ?
555
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,840
? All of these I would hope ?
556
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,800
? My sons to see, yeah ?
557
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,240
{\an8}? But them rules keep a changing ?
558
00:44:26,241 --> 00:44:28,599
{\an8}? I be fucked
If I'm gonna play that game ?
559
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,680
? I paid my dues, was there on time ?
560
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,720
? You give me them blues ?
561
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:42,120
- ? Oh ?
- ? Oh ?
562
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,880
- ? Queen Bee should know ?
- ? Queen Bee should know ?
563
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:56,560
- ? She can't see her flowers ?
- ? She can't see her flowers ?
564
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,920
? And through her ?
565
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,760
- ? Own trees ?
- ? Own trees ?
566
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,040
- ? Yeah ?
- ? Yeah ?
567
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,120
? Talkin' 'bout our home, land and sea ?
568
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,720
? Talkin' 'bout our home, land and sea ?
569
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,320
- ? Land and sea ?
- ? Yeah ?
570
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,640
? Talkin' 'bout our home, land and sea ?
571
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,600
? Land and sea yeah, ?
572
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,680
? Talkin' 'bout our home, land and sea ?
573
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,320
? Hey ?
574
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,040
? Talkin' 'bout our home, land and sea ?
575
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,000
? Land and sea ?
576
00:45:44,001 --> 00:45:46,209
- ? And talking about our home... ?
- ? Talking about our home... ?
577
00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:50,760
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