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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Last Week

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Last Week

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Last Week Tonight. I'm John Oliver. Thank you so

Tonight. I'm John Oliver. Thank you so

Tonight. I'm John Oliver. Thank you so much for joining us. It has been a busy

much for joining us. It has been a busy

much for joining us. It has been a busy week. Chile got a new farright president

week. Chile got a new farright president

week. Chile got a new farright president and Trump endorses Jake Paul even though

and Trump endorses Jake Paul even though

and Trump endorses Jake Paul even though he's not running for office. But we're

he's not running for office. But we're

he's not running for office. But we're going to start with Iran. It's been two

going to start with Iran. It's been two

going to start with Iran. It's been two weeks since we launched strikes there,

weeks since we launched strikes there,

weeks since we launched strikes there, and it's still unclear how long this is

and it's still unclear how long this is

and it's still unclear how long this is going to continue. On Monday, Trump

going to continue. On Monday, Trump

going to continue. On Monday, Trump claimed the war was very complete before

claimed the war was very complete before

claimed the war was very complete before adding pretty much. And that qualifier

adding pretty much. And that qualifier

adding pretty much. And that qualifier turned out to be important.

turned out to be important.

turned out to be important. >> Mr. President, you've said the war is

>> Mr. President, you've said the war is

>> Mr. President, you've said the war is quote very complete. But your defense

quote very complete. But your defense

quote very complete. But your defense secretary says this is just the

secretary says this is just the

secretary says this is just the beginning. So which is it? And how long

beginning. So which is it? And how long

beginning. So which is it? And how long should Americans be prepared?

should Americans be prepared?

should Americans be prepared? >> I think you could say both. The

>> I think you could say both. The

>> I think you could say both. The beginning. It's the beginning of

beginning. It's the beginning of

beginning. It's the beginning of building a new country. We could call it

building a new country. We could call it

building a new country. We could call it a tremendous success right now as we

a tremendous success right now as we

a tremendous success right now as we leave here. I could call it or we could

leave here. I could call it or we could

leave here. I could call it or we could go further. And we're going to go

go further. And we're going to go

go further. And we're going to go further.

further.

further. >> Yeah. Not a great response there. That

>> Yeah. Not a great response there. That

>> Yeah. Not a great response there. That non-committal floundering makes him

non-committal floundering makes him

non-committal floundering makes him sound less like a president laying out a

sound less like a president laying out a

sound less like a president laying out a strategy and more like what happens when

strategy and more like what happens when

strategy and more like what happens when you ask your situationship if you should

you ask your situationship if you should

you ask your situationship if you should put him down as your plus one to a

put him down as your plus one to a

put him down as your plus one to a wedding in 6 months. I don't know. We we

wedding in 6 months. I don't know. We we

wedding in 6 months. I don't know. We we could go further. I I I could call it,

could go further. I I I could call it,

could go further. I I I could call it, but we're going to go further. Right. At

but we're going to go further. Right. At

but we're going to go further. Right. At every point, the president seemed

every point, the president seemed

every point, the president seemed utterly disconnected from the stakes of

utterly disconnected from the stakes of

utterly disconnected from the stakes of this war. Right down to greeting the

this war. Right down to greeting the

this war. Right down to greeting the remains of fallen American troops while

remains of fallen American troops while

remains of fallen American troops while wearing his most formal baseball cap.

wearing his most formal baseball cap.

wearing his most formal baseball cap. He's also been conveniently confused

He's also been conveniently confused

He's also been conveniently confused about civilian casualties. Take the

about civilian casualties. Take the

about civilian casualties. Take the horrifying strike on an elementary

horrifying strike on an elementary

horrifying strike on an elementary school that killed at least 175 people,

school that killed at least 175 people,

school that killed at least 175 people, most of them children. Observers quickly

most of them children. Observers quickly

most of them children. Observers quickly came to believe that the US was

came to believe that the US was

came to believe that the US was responsible, including it now seems our

responsible, including it now seems our

responsible, including it now seems our own military. Yet, Trump's repeatedly

own military. Yet, Trump's repeatedly

own military. Yet, Trump's repeatedly played dumb whenever asked about it. A

played dumb whenever asked about it. A

played dumb whenever asked about it. A >> tomahawk missile likely destroyed that

>> tomahawk missile likely destroyed that

>> tomahawk missile likely destroyed that Iranian girl school. So, will the

Iranian girl school. So, will the

Iranian girl school. So, will the Americans will the US accept any

Americans will the US accept any

Americans will the US accept any responsibility? Well, I haven't seen it.

responsibility? Well, I haven't seen it.

responsibility? Well, I haven't seen it. And I will say that the tomahawk, which

And I will say that the tomahawk, which

And I will say that the tomahawk, which is one of the most powerful weapons

is one of the most powerful weapons

is one of the most powerful weapons around, is used by, you know, is sold

around, is used by, you know, is sold

around, is used by, you know, is sold and used by other countries. You know

and used by other countries. You know

and used by other countries. You know that. And whether it's Iran, who also

that. And whether it's Iran, who also

that. And whether it's Iran, who also has some tomahawks, they wish they had

has some tomahawks, they wish they had

has some tomahawks, they wish they had more, but uh whether it's Iran or

more, but uh whether it's Iran or

more, but uh whether it's Iran or somebody else, the fact that a tomahawk,

somebody else, the fact that a tomahawk,

somebody else, the fact that a tomahawk, a tomahawk is very generic. You just

a tomahawk is very generic. You just

a tomahawk is very generic. You just suggested that Iran somehow got its

suggested that Iran somehow got its

suggested that Iran somehow got its hands on a tomahawk and bombed its own

hands on a tomahawk and bombed its own

hands on a tomahawk and bombed its own elementary school on the first day of

elementary school on the first day of

elementary school on the first day of the war. But you're the only person in

the war. But you're the only person in

the war. But you're the only person in your government saying this. Even your

your government saying this. Even your

your government saying this. Even your defense secretary wouldn't say that when

defense secretary wouldn't say that when

defense secretary wouldn't say that when he was asked standing over your shoulder

he was asked standing over your shoulder

he was asked standing over your shoulder on your plane on Saturday. Why are you

on your plane on Saturday. Why are you

on your plane on Saturday. Why are you the only person saying this?

the only person saying this?

the only person saying this? >> Because I just don't know enough about

>> Because I just don't know enough about

>> Because I just don't know enough about it.

it.

it. >> Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?

>> Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?

>> Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it? What's he really supposed to do? Ask the

What's he really supposed to do? Ask the

What's he really supposed to do? Ask the people who work for him, listen to the

people who work for him, listen to the

people who work for him, listen to the daily briefings he gets? Of course not.

daily briefings he gets? Of course not.

daily briefings he gets? Of course not. It is hard to say whether Trump is being

It is hard to say whether Trump is being

It is hard to say whether Trump is being actively deceptive there or just playing

actively deceptive there or just playing

actively deceptive there or just playing dumb. In his words, I think you could

dumb. In his words, I think you could

dumb. In his words, I think you could say both.

say both.

say both. Meanwhile, the conflict continues to

Meanwhile, the conflict continues to

Meanwhile, the conflict continues to spread throughout the region with Israel

spread throughout the region with Israel

spread throughout the region with Israel now bombing Lebanon, killing nearly 800

now bombing Lebanon, killing nearly 800

now bombing Lebanon, killing nearly 800 so far and displacing over 800,000. And

so far and displacing over 800,000. And

so far and displacing over 800,000. And Iran's effectively closed the Strait of

Iran's effectively closed the Strait of

Iran's effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz, through which about 20% of the

Hormuz, through which about 20% of the

Hormuz, through which about 20% of the world's oil usually transits. At least

world's oil usually transits. At least

world's oil usually transits. At least 16 ships have been attacked there since

16 ships have been attacked there since

16 ships have been attacked there since the war began, sending oil prices

the war began, sending oil prices

the war began, sending oil prices soaring. Now, polls have consistently

soaring. Now, polls have consistently

soaring. Now, polls have consistently shown the majority of America is against

shown the majority of America is against

shown the majority of America is against this conflict. And that may be why the

this conflict. And that may be why the

this conflict. And that may be why the White House is selling it hard. Tweeting

White House is selling it hard. Tweeting

White House is selling it hard. Tweeting multiple gross video showing footage of

multiple gross video showing footage of

multiple gross video showing footage of bombs exploding intercut with things

bombs exploding intercut with things

bombs exploding intercut with things like baseball players hitting a ball

like baseball players hitting a ball

like baseball players hitting a ball captioned pure American dominance and

captioned pure American dominance and

captioned pure American dominance and football hits in a post confusingly

football hits in a post confusingly

football hits in a post confusingly titled Touchdown. And if you're

titled Touchdown. And if you're

titled Touchdown. And if you're thinking, well, that is all in terrible

thinking, well, that is all in terrible

thinking, well, that is all in terrible taste, but at least they didn't set

taste, but at least they didn't set

taste, but at least they didn't set missile strikes to Nelly's Here Comes

missile strikes to Nelly's Here Comes

missile strikes to Nelly's Here Comes the Boom. I have some terrible news for

the Boom. I have some terrible news for

the Boom. I have some terrible news for you.

So cool, bro.

So cool, bro.

So cool, bro. I always wanted a government that made

I always wanted a government that made

I always wanted a government that made war propaganda like eighth grade boys

war propaganda like eighth grade boys

war propaganda like eighth grade boys making a lacrosse team hype video. And

making a lacrosse team hype video. And

making a lacrosse team hype video. And look, with this White House, that's kind

look, with this White House, that's kind

look, with this White House, that's kind of to be expected. What's surprising is

of to be expected. What's surprising is

of to be expected. What's surprising is Iran's been trolling in return. State

Iran's been trolling in return. State

Iran's been trolling in return. State aligned media there even shared an AI

aligned media there even shared an AI

aligned media there even shared an AI Lego video that opened with a scene

Lego video that opened with a scene

Lego video that opened with a scene making it clear they think Trump started

making it clear they think Trump started

making it clear they think Trump started this war as a distraction.

Look, I think I get Iran's point there.

Look, I think I get Iran's point there.

Look, I think I get Iran's point there. This war is just a smoke screen to

This war is just a smoke screen to

This war is just a smoke screen to distract from Trump's friendship with

distract from Trump's friendship with

distract from Trump's friendship with notorious sex criminal Ustein.

notorious sex criminal Ustein.

notorious sex criminal Ustein. And by the way, who is it with Epstein

And by the way, who is it with Epstein

And by the way, who is it with Epstein in the corner there? Is that Dick Van

in the corner there? Is that Dick Van

in the corner there? Is that Dick Van Dyk? Dick? No, not you.

Dyk? Dick? No, not you.

Dyk? Dick? No, not you. That video also features the straight

That video also features the straight

That video also features the straight off booze being closed and businessmen

off booze being closed and businessmen

off booze being closed and businessmen crying about oil prices spiking as well

crying about oil prices spiking as well

crying about oil prices spiking as well as a Lego depiction of the aftermath of

as a Lego depiction of the aftermath of

as a Lego depiction of the aftermath of the school bombing, which is surreal. It

the school bombing, which is surreal. It

the school bombing, which is surreal. It is odd for a human rights atrocity to be

is odd for a human rights atrocity to be

is odd for a human rights atrocity to be rendered in Lego. But I guess that's

rendered in Lego. But I guess that's

rendered in Lego. But I guess that's where we are with this conflict,

where we are with this conflict,

where we are with this conflict, especially given the White House

especially given the White House

especially given the White House continues to churn out ship posts like

continues to churn out ship posts like

continues to churn out ship posts like this one.

>> Here comes the heat from the USA.

>> Here comes the heat from the USA.

>> Here comes the heat from the USA. Up and down. What a strike.

Up and down. What a strike.

Up and down. What a strike. That's right.

That's right.

That's right. Who do you think you are? I am

Okay, look, this isn't the point. The

Okay, look, this isn't the point. The

Okay, look, this isn't the point. The point should be that everyone in this

point should be that everyone in this

point should be that everyone in this White House clearly needs parental

White House clearly needs parental

White House clearly needs parental controls on screen time. But but also,

controls on screen time. But but also,

controls on screen time. But but also, you send a ball right down the middle

you send a ball right down the middle

you send a ball right down the middle like that, you're going to get a split.

like that, you're going to get a split.

like that, you're going to get a split. You you you got to come in at a slight

You you you got to come in at a slight

You you you got to come in at a slight angle, otherwise there's no way you're

angle, otherwise there's no way you're

angle, otherwise there's no way you're going 10 for 10. I don't do much bowling

going 10 for 10. I don't do much bowling

going 10 for 10. I don't do much bowling myself. Too whimsical. I'm more of a

myself. Too whimsical. I'm more of a

myself. Too whimsical. I'm more of a frown and play chess man. But even I

frown and play chess man. But even I

frown and play chess man. But even I know that's not a ball that's going to

know that's not a ball that's going to

know that's not a ball that's going to give you what you want. Now, one reason

give you what you want. Now, one reason

give you what you want. Now, one reason the White House might be doing all this

the White House might be doing all this

the White House might be doing all this is to distract from negative press

is to distract from negative press

is to distract from negative press coverage. CNN, for instance, published

coverage. CNN, for instance, published

coverage. CNN, for instance, published this article about the failure to plan

this article about the failure to plan

this article about the failure to plan for the closure of the straight of

for the closure of the straight of

for the closure of the straight of Hammuz. And on Friday morning, Pete

Hammuz. And on Friday morning, Pete

Hammuz. And on Friday morning, Pete Hexath addressed that directly from CNN

Hexath addressed that directly from CNN

Hexath addressed that directly from CNN reports that the Trump administration

reports that the Trump administration

reports that the Trump administration underestimated the Iran war's impact on

underestimated the Iran war's impact on

underestimated the Iran war's impact on the Strait of Hormuz.

the Strait of Hormuz.

the Strait of Hormuz. Patently ridiculous. Of course, for

Patently ridiculous. Of course, for

Patently ridiculous. Of course, for decades, Iran has threatened shipping in

decades, Iran has threatened shipping in

decades, Iran has threatened shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. This is always

the Strait of Hormuz. This is always

the Strait of Hormuz. This is always what they do. who hold the straight

what they do. who hold the straight

what they do. who hold the straight hostage.

hostage.

hostage. CNN doesn't think we thought of that.

CNN doesn't think we thought of that.

CNN doesn't think we thought of that. It's a fundamentally unserious report.

It's a fundamentally unserious report.

It's a fundamentally unserious report. The sooner David Ellison takes over that

The sooner David Ellison takes over that

The sooner David Ellison takes over that network, the better.

network, the better.

network, the better. >> Wow, that is not good. I can't wait

>> Wow, that is not good. I can't wait

>> Wow, that is not good. I can't wait until the billionaire sympathetic to

until the billionaire sympathetic to

until the billionaire sympathetic to this administration takes over the news.

this administration takes over the news.

this administration takes over the news. Isn't it like your mom saying when you

Isn't it like your mom saying when you

Isn't it like your mom saying when you were conceived, your dad came harder

were conceived, your dad came harder

were conceived, your dad came harder than ever before? He like a

than ever before? He like a

than ever before? He like a geyser. Even if you thought that was the

geyser. Even if you thought that was the

geyser. Even if you thought that was the case, your ability to make it through

case, your ability to make it through

case, your ability to make it through the day really depends on never hearing

the day really depends on never hearing

the day really depends on never hearing those words.

those words.

those words. But that wasn't all. Unhappy at the

But that wasn't all. Unhappy at the

But that wasn't all. Unhappy at the coverage this war has gotten, HexF

coverage this war has gotten, HexF

coverage this war has gotten, HexF decided to offer the press some helpful

decided to offer the press some helpful

decided to offer the press some helpful tips. Allow me to make a few

tips. Allow me to make a few

tips. Allow me to make a few suggestions.

suggestions.

suggestions. People look up at the TV and they see

People look up at the TV and they see

People look up at the TV and they see banners. They see headlines. M East war

banners. They see headlines. M East war

banners. They see headlines. M East war intensifies, splashing on the screen the

intensifies, splashing on the screen the

intensifies, splashing on the screen the last couple of days alongside visuals of

last couple of days alongside visuals of

last couple of days alongside visuals of civilian or energy targets that Iran has

civilian or energy targets that Iran has

civilian or energy targets that Iran has hit because that's what they do. What

hit because that's what they do. What

hit because that's what they do. What should the banner read instead? How

should the banner read instead? How

should the banner read instead? How about Iran increasingly desperate?

about Iran increasingly desperate?

about Iran increasingly desperate? Another example of a fake headline that

Another example of a fake headline that

Another example of a fake headline that I saw yesterday. War widening.

I saw yesterday. War widening.

I saw yesterday. War widening. Here's a real headline for you for an

Here's a real headline for you for an

Here's a real headline for you for an actual patriotic press. How about Iran

actual patriotic press. How about Iran

actual patriotic press. How about Iran shrinking going underground?

shrinking going underground?

shrinking going underground? >> Okay, so even if his version of events

>> Okay, so even if his version of events

>> Okay, so even if his version of events were true there, which it's not, that is

were true there, which it's not, that is

were true there, which it's not, that is a terrible headline. Iran shrinking,

a terrible headline. Iran shrinking,

a terrible headline. Iran shrinking, going underground. What does that even

going underground. What does that even

going underground. What does that even mean? A headline supposed to give you a

mean? A headline supposed to give you a

mean? A headline supposed to give you a clear idea of a story in a few words.

clear idea of a story in a few words.

clear idea of a story in a few words. That makes it seem like Iran is

That makes it seem like Iran is

That makes it seem like Iran is literally getting smaller and sinking

literally getting smaller and sinking

literally getting smaller and sinking like some kind of Middle Eastern

like some kind of Middle Eastern

like some kind of Middle Eastern Atlantis. Look, I get why Hexath is

Atlantis. Look, I get why Hexath is

Atlantis. Look, I get why Hexath is trying to force feed headlines to the

trying to force feed headlines to the

trying to force feed headlines to the press and why the White House is pumping

press and why the White House is pumping

press and why the White House is pumping out fun bowling animations. Though, I

out fun bowling animations. Though, I

out fun bowling animations. Though, I will point out in bowling, no matter how

will point out in bowling, no matter how

will point out in bowling, no matter how many times you knock those pins down,

many times you knock those pins down,

many times you knock those pins down, they do return to their original

they do return to their original

they do return to their original positions, which feels pretty on the

positions, which feels pretty on the

positions, which feels pretty on the nose here. Look, clearly no one behind

nose here. Look, clearly no one behind

nose here. Look, clearly no one behind this war wants to deal with how

this war wants to deal with how

this war wants to deal with how complicated it's turned out to be. Trump

complicated it's turned out to be. Trump

complicated it's turned out to be. Trump is saying that it'll be over when I feel

is saying that it'll be over when I feel

is saying that it'll be over when I feel it in my bones, whatever the that

it in my bones, whatever the that

it in my bones, whatever the that means.

means.

means. And that's a pretty thoughtless way to

And that's a pretty thoughtless way to

And that's a pretty thoughtless way to approach a conflict that's already

approach a conflict that's already

approach a conflict that's already killed so many. It's not just

killed so many. It's not just

killed so many. It's not just disrespectful to the Iranian people and

disrespectful to the Iranian people and

disrespectful to the Iranian people and to US service members affected. It's

to US service members affected. It's

to US service members affected. It's disrespectful to the rest of us to

disrespectful to the rest of us to

disrespectful to the rest of us to assume childish memes and sugarcoated

assume childish memes and sugarcoated

assume childish memes and sugarcoated headlines will change what we can all

headlines will change what we can all

headlines will change what we can all see with our own eyes. Because at this

see with our own eyes. Because at this

see with our own eyes. Because at this point, we don't deserve deflections. We

point, we don't deserve deflections. We

point, we don't deserve deflections. We deserve explanations, accountability,

deserve explanations, accountability,

deserve explanations, accountability, and if it is not too much trouble, the

and if it is not too much trouble, the

and if it is not too much trouble, the full release of the Ray Epstein files.

full release of the Ray Epstein files.

full release of the Ray Epstein files. And now this.

And now this.

And now this. >> And now Jim Kramer went to Harvard.

>> And now Jim Kramer went to Harvard.

>> And now Jim Kramer went to Harvard. >> When I was doing my senior thesis at

>> When I was doing my senior thesis at

>> When I was doing my senior thesis at Harvard to do some mindless name

Harvard to do some mindless name

Harvard to do some mindless name dropping and I consider myself an

dropping and I consider myself an

dropping and I consider myself an average American who took three years of

average American who took three years of

average American who took three years of economics at Harvard. I'm a proud

economics at Harvard. I'm a proud

economics at Harvard. I'm a proud supporter of Harvard. For law school, I

supporter of Harvard. For law school, I

supporter of Harvard. For law school, I went to Harvard. It's been a long time

went to Harvard. It's been a long time

went to Harvard. It's been a long time since I studied antitrust at Harvard Law

since I studied antitrust at Harvard Law

since I studied antitrust at Harvard Law to the greatest antitrust scholar of all

to the greatest antitrust scholar of all

to the greatest antitrust scholar of all time. I got to Harvard. We had every

time. I got to Harvard. We had every

time. I got to Harvard. We had every single Nobel. I took three years

single Nobel. I took three years

single Nobel. I took three years economics at Harvard. That's why I went

economics at Harvard. That's why I went

economics at Harvard. That's why I went to Harvard and Harvard Law to get

to Harvard and Harvard Law to get

to Harvard and Harvard Law to get stupid.

stupid.

stupid. Now, I didn't go to Harvard Law School

Now, I didn't go to Harvard Law School

Now, I didn't go to Harvard Law School for nothing. I actually did well at

for nothing. I actually did well at

for nothing. I actually did well at Harvard. I mean, look, I went to

Harvard. I mean, look, I went to

Harvard. I mean, look, I went to Harvard. I mean, I went to Harvard. I

Harvard. I mean, I went to Harvard. I

Harvard. I mean, I went to Harvard. I took seven courses on communism at

took seven courses on communism at

took seven courses on communism at Harvard. Here's something I learned when

Harvard. Here's something I learned when

Harvard. Here's something I learned when I went I took economics at Harvard class

I went I took economics at Harvard class

I went I took economics at Harvard class at at Harvard. Took that stupid

at at Harvard. Took that stupid

at at Harvard. Took that stupid corporate law course at Harvard and got

corporate law course at Harvard and got

corporate law course at Harvard and got an A. I actually had the highest grade

an A. I actually had the highest grade

an A. I actually had the highest grade on my generals in my major at Harvard.

on my generals in my major at Harvard.

on my generals in my major at Harvard. You I was at when I was at Harvard. Hey,

You I was at when I was at Harvard. Hey,

You I was at when I was at Harvard. Hey, hey, dropped that. Had to mention

hey, dropped that. Had to mention

hey, dropped that. Had to mention Harvard because I'm a jerk.

Moving on, our main story tonight

Moving on, our main story tonight

Moving on, our main story tonight concerns J. D. Vance. Sworn in at just

concerns J. D. Vance. Sworn in at just

concerns J. D. Vance. Sworn in at just 40 years old, he's our first millennial

40 years old, he's our first millennial

40 years old, he's our first millennial vice president. So, we can confidently

vice president. So, we can confidently

vice president. So, we can confidently say he's the first VP to have definitely

say he's the first VP to have definitely

say he's the first VP to have definitely jacked it to Space Jam.

jacked it to Space Jam.

jacked it to Space Jam. I know to some Vance might appear to be

I know to some Vance might appear to be

I know to some Vance might appear to be just another abrasive MAGA with

just another abrasive MAGA with

just another abrasive MAGA with a loadbearing beard, but to many on the

a loadbearing beard, but to many on the

a loadbearing beard, but to many on the right, he's a towering intellect. The

right, he's a towering intellect. The

right, he's a towering intellect. The president of the Heritage Foundation

president of the Heritage Foundation

president of the Heritage Foundation said Vance is going to be one of the

said Vance is going to be one of the

said Vance is going to be one of the leaders, if not the leader of our

leaders, if not the leader of our

leaders, if not the leader of our movement. And Tucker Carlson once called

movement. And Tucker Carlson once called

movement. And Tucker Carlson once called him the smartest and deepest senator

him the smartest and deepest senator

him the smartest and deepest senator he's ever met, which is kind of like

he's ever met, which is kind of like

he's ever met, which is kind of like Ryan Lochi calling Cookie Monster his

Ryan Lochi calling Cookie Monster his

Ryan Lochi calling Cookie Monster his go-to guy for investment advice. I don't

go-to guy for investment advice. I don't

go-to guy for investment advice. I don't trust any of the ini individuals

trust any of the ini individuals

trust any of the ini individuals involved to be reliable judges of any of

involved to be reliable judges of any of

involved to be reliable judges of any of the subjects involved. And his rise to

the subjects involved. And his rise to

the subjects involved. And his rise to become Trump's right-hand man is

become Trump's right-hand man is

become Trump's right-hand man is especially striking given as recently as

especially striking given as recently as

especially striking given as recently as 2016, he was casting himself as a never

2016, he was casting himself as a never

2016, he was casting himself as a never Trump Republican, saying he might write

Trump Republican, saying he might write

Trump Republican, saying he might write in his dog for president, or if Trump

in his dog for president, or if Trump

in his dog for president, or if Trump had a really good chance of winning,

had a really good chance of winning,

had a really good chance of winning, hold his nose and vote for Hillary

hold his nose and vote for Hillary

hold his nose and vote for Hillary Clinton. Privately, he even mused that

Clinton. Privately, he even mused that

Clinton. Privately, he even mused that Trump could become America's Hitler. And

Trump could become America's Hitler. And

Trump could become America's Hitler. And yet, just a few years later, he was

yet, just a few years later, he was

yet, just a few years later, he was campaigning for Senate alongside Trump

campaigning for Senate alongside Trump

campaigning for Senate alongside Trump and adopting a very different tone.

and adopting a very different tone.

and adopting a very different tone. Something that did not go unnoticed.

Something that did not go unnoticed.

Something that did not go unnoticed. >> You know what? He's a guy that said some

>> You know what? He's a guy that said some

>> You know what? He's a guy that said some bad about me.

bad about me.

bad about me. >> Come on up, JD.

>> Come on up, JD.

>> Come on up, JD. >> The president is right. I wasn't always

>> The president is right. I wasn't always

>> The president is right. I wasn't always nice, but the simple fact is he's the

nice, but the simple fact is he's the

nice, but the simple fact is he's the best president of my lifetime, and he

best president of my lifetime, and he

best president of my lifetime, and he revealed the corruption in this country

revealed the corruption in this country

revealed the corruption in this country like nobody else. I mean, I guess that

like nobody else. I mean, I guess that

like nobody else. I mean, I guess that is true.

is true.

is true. Donald Trump definitely revealed

Donald Trump definitely revealed

Donald Trump definitely revealed corruption in this country like nobody

corruption in this country like nobody

corruption in this country like nobody else. In the same way, no one taught us

else. In the same way, no one taught us

else. In the same way, no one taught us more about what a Ponzi scheme is than

more about what a Ponzi scheme is than

more about what a Ponzi scheme is than Bernie Maidoff. It's true, just not in

Bernie Maidoff. It's true, just not in

Bernie Maidoff. It's true, just not in the way I think you're implying. And

the way I think you're implying. And

the way I think you're implying. And Vance has turned out to be perfect for

Vance has turned out to be perfect for

Vance has turned out to be perfect for Trump, as in many ways, he's become like

Trump, as in many ways, he's become like

Trump, as in many ways, he's become like a son Trump doesn't even have to pretend

a son Trump doesn't even have to pretend

a son Trump doesn't even have to pretend to love. And as VP, he has served

to love. And as VP, he has served

to love. And as VP, he has served dutifully, often receding into the

dutifully, often receding into the

dutifully, often receding into the background, but willing to be an attack

background, but willing to be an attack

background, but willing to be an attack dog when needed, like when he demanded

dog when needed, like when he demanded

dog when needed, like when he demanded Zilinsky say thank you to Trump in the

Zilinsky say thank you to Trump in the

Zilinsky say thank you to Trump in the Oval Office. He's also relentlessly

Oval Office. He's also relentlessly

Oval Office. He's also relentlessly defended his boss's moves, even when

defended his boss's moves, even when

defended his boss's moves, even when they directly contradict his prior

they directly contradict his prior

they directly contradict his prior beliefs, like his anti-interventionist

beliefs, like his anti-interventionist

beliefs, like his anti-interventionist approach to foreign policy. When people

approach to foreign policy. When people

approach to foreign policy. When people criticized last year's US strikes in the

criticized last year's US strikes in the

criticized last year's US strikes in the waters of Venezuela, calling them a war

waters of Venezuela, calling them a war

waters of Venezuela, calling them a war crime, he replied on Twitter, "I don't

crime, he replied on Twitter, "I don't

crime, he replied on Twitter, "I don't give a what you call it." And when

give a what you call it." And when

give a what you call it." And when Trump decided to first strike Iran last

Trump decided to first strike Iran last

Trump decided to first strike Iran last year, Vance defended him and didn't even

year, Vance defended him and didn't even

year, Vance defended him and didn't even try to come up with a good

try to come up with a good

try to come up with a good rationalization.

rationalization.

rationalization. I certainly empathize with Americans who

I certainly empathize with Americans who

I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign

are exhausted after 25 years of foreign

are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East. I

entanglements in the Middle East. I

entanglements in the Middle East. I understand the concern. But the

understand the concern. But the

understand the concern. But the difference is that back then we had dumb

difference is that back then we had dumb

difference is that back then we had dumb presidents and now we have a president

presidents and now we have a president

presidents and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish

who actually knows how to accomplish

who actually knows how to accomplish America's national security objectives.

America's national security objectives.

America's national security objectives. Yeah, it wasn't okay before because the

Yeah, it wasn't okay before because the

Yeah, it wasn't okay before because the presidents were stupid heads who ate

presidents were stupid heads who ate

presidents were stupid heads who ate dumb for breakfast. But now we have a

dumb for breakfast. But now we have a

dumb for breakfast. But now we have a big strong real estate developer and

big strong real estate developer and

big strong real estate developer and stakes salesman to give us the national

stakes salesman to give us the national

stakes salesman to give us the national security expertise we so badly need. So,

security expertise we so badly need. So,

security expertise we so badly need. So, it's completely fine. And look,

it's completely fine. And look,

it's completely fine. And look, obviously, some of that's just part of

obviously, some of that's just part of

obviously, some of that's just part of being vice president. You have to roll

being vice president. You have to roll

being vice president. You have to roll over for your boss. But it's worth

over for your boss. But it's worth

over for your boss. But it's worth remembering Vance has an inside track to

remembering Vance has an inside track to

remembering Vance has an inside track to the Oval Office in the future. Not only

the Oval Office in the future. Not only

the Oval Office in the future. Not only because polls show him leading the

because polls show him leading the

because polls show him leading the Republican field for 2028, but also

Republican field for 2028, but also

Republican field for 2028, but also because if this guy doesn't make it

because if this guy doesn't make it

because if this guy doesn't make it through his term, either because the

through his term, either because the

through his term, either because the 25th amendment got invoked or his

25th amendment got invoked or his

25th amendment got invoked or his internal organs decided, you know what,

internal organs decided, you know what,

internal organs decided, you know what, dude, you can't keep doing this to us.

dude, you can't keep doing this to us.

dude, you can't keep doing this to us. We're out. JD Vance will become

We're out. JD Vance will become

We're out. JD Vance will become president. So before things reach that

president. So before things reach that

president. So before things reach that point, it feels like tonight it may be

point, it feels like tonight it may be

point, it feels like tonight it may be worth looking at J. D. Vance, what he

worth looking at J. D. Vance, what he

worth looking at J. D. Vance, what he stands for and who he might be without

stands for and who he might be without

stands for and who he might be without Donald Trump. And I'll skip over his

Donald Trump. And I'll skip over his

Donald Trump. And I'll skip over his early life because it's been well

early life because it's been well

early life because it's been well chronicled in his bestselling memoir,

chronicled in his bestselling memoir,

chronicled in his bestselling memoir, Hillbilly Elegy. Voted 2016's number one

Hillbilly Elegy. Voted 2016's number one

Hillbilly Elegy. Voted 2016's number one Christmas gift by Oh, emergency

Christmas gift by Oh, emergency

Christmas gift by Oh, emergency airport purchases magazine.

airport purchases magazine.

airport purchases magazine. If you haven't read it, long story

If you haven't read it, long story

If you haven't read it, long story short, he was raised in Ohio by a mother

short, he was raised in Ohio by a mother

short, he was raised in Ohio by a mother who battled an opioid addiction and his

who battled an opioid addiction and his

who battled an opioid addiction and his loudmouthed grandmother before a stint

loudmouthed grandmother before a stint

loudmouthed grandmother before a stint in the military in Iraq and attending

in the military in Iraq and attending

in the military in Iraq and attending Yale Law School. If you want to know

Yale Law School. If you want to know

Yale Law School. If you want to know more, you can read the book or just

more, you can read the book or just

more, you can read the book or just watch the movie adaptation featuring

watch the movie adaptation featuring

watch the movie adaptation featuring this scene where his grandmother catches

this scene where his grandmother catches

this scene where his grandmother catches Vance smoking weed and decides to raise

Vance smoking weed and decides to raise

Vance smoking weed and decides to raise him herself.

him herself.

him herself. >> Oh, I don't give a rat fart what you're

>> Oh, I don't give a rat fart what you're

>> Oh, I don't give a rat fart what you're smoking, kid. If you think you're hiding

smoking, kid. If you think you're hiding

smoking, kid. If you think you're hiding it, honey, you're dumb as a bag of hair.

it, honey, you're dumb as a bag of hair.

it, honey, you're dumb as a bag of hair. Pack up.

Pack up.

Pack up. >> For what?

>> For what?

>> For what? >> What are you doing?

>> What are you doing?

>> What are you doing? I'm taking him

I'm taking him

I'm taking him >> where?

>> where?

>> where? >> To live with me. And if you got a

>> To live with me. And if you got a

>> To live with me. And if you got a problem with that, you can talk to the

problem with that, you can talk to the

problem with that, you can talk to the barrel of my gun.

barrel of my gun.

barrel of my gun. >> Listen, listen, listen. This is a pro

>> Listen, listen, listen. This is a pro

>> Listen, listen, listen. This is a pro Glen Close show.

Glen Close show.

Glen Close show. Always has been, always will be. That

Always has been, always will be. That

Always has been, always will be. That being said, no, I do not like what I am

being said, no, I do not like what I am

being said, no, I do not like what I am seeing there. The only good thing, and I

seeing there. The only good thing, and I

seeing there. The only good thing, and I mean the only good thing that came out

mean the only good thing that came out

mean the only good thing that came out of that film is the fact that when Glen

of that film is the fact that when Glen

of that film is the fact that when Glen Close was nominated for best supporting

Close was nominated for best supporting

Close was nominated for best supporting actress and attended the Academy Awards,

actress and attended the Academy Awards,

actress and attended the Academy Awards, she was approached by Lil Re for a music

she was approached by Lil Re for a music

she was approached by Lil Re for a music trivia game and this happened.

trivia game and this happened.

trivia game and this happened. >> United do the butt.

>> United do the butt.

>> United do the butt. >> Quick, turn up.

>> Quick, turn up.

>> Quick, turn up. >> Come on. Let's see. Let me see you do

>> Come on. Let's see. Let me see you do

>> Come on. Let's see. Let me see you do the butt. Let's see it.

>> Yeah, that was eight time Oscar nominee

>> Yeah, that was eight time Oscar nominee

>> Yeah, that was eight time Oscar nominee Glenn Close doing the butt on camera.

Glenn Close doing the butt on camera.

Glenn Close doing the butt on camera. So, Hillbilly Allergy was a terrible

So, Hillbilly Allergy was a terrible

So, Hillbilly Allergy was a terrible film, but let's not say it didn't give

film, but let's not say it didn't give

film, but let's not say it didn't give us anything. Anyway, Vance's book hit

us anything. Anyway, Vance's book hit

us anything. Anyway, Vance's book hit stores during Trump's first run for the

stores during Trump's first run for the

stores during Trump's first run for the White House, making him a hot commodity

White House, making him a hot commodity

White House, making him a hot commodity for news shows looking for someone to

for news shows looking for someone to

for news shows looking for someone to explain the grievances of the white

explain the grievances of the white

explain the grievances of the white working class. And at the time, he

working class. And at the time, he

working class. And at the time, he struck what seemed to be a fairly

struck what seemed to be a fairly

struck what seemed to be a fairly moderate tone. I think that this

moderate tone. I think that this

moderate tone. I think that this election is really having a negative

election is really having a negative

election is really having a negative effect, especially on the white working

effect, especially on the white working

effect, especially on the white working class, right? because I think a lot of

class, right? because I think a lot of

class, right? because I think a lot of these grievances are legitimate, but

these grievances are legitimate, but

these grievances are legitimate, but what it's doing is it's giving people an

what it's doing is it's giving people an

what it's doing is it's giving people an excuse to point the finger at someone

excuse to point the finger at someone

excuse to point the finger at someone else. It's point the finger at Mexican

else. It's point the finger at Mexican

else. It's point the finger at Mexican immigrants or Chinese trade or the

immigrants or Chinese trade or the

immigrants or Chinese trade or the Democratic elites or whatever else. And

Democratic elites or whatever else. And

Democratic elites or whatever else. And sometimes these villains are legitimate.

sometimes these villains are legitimate.

sometimes these villains are legitimate. I think it's totally fair to say that

I think it's totally fair to say that

I think it's totally fair to say that the policy elites of the Democratic

the policy elites of the Democratic

the policy elites of the Democratic party haven't been totally concerned

party haven't been totally concerned

party haven't been totally concerned about the the white working class. But

about the the white working class. But

about the the white working class. But at the same time, fundamentally, what's

at the same time, fundamentally, what's

at the same time, fundamentally, what's going on and what Donald Trump has done

going on and what Donald Trump has done

going on and what Donald Trump has done is change the focus of the white working

is change the focus of the white working

is change the focus of the white working class from a sort of engaged and

class from a sort of engaged and

class from a sort of engaged and constructive politics to a politics of

constructive politics to a politics of

constructive politics to a politics of pointing the finger.

pointing the finger.

pointing the finger. >> So, watching that now feels weird for a

>> So, watching that now feels weird for a

>> So, watching that now feels weird for a number of reasons. First, I never

number of reasons. First, I never

number of reasons. First, I never thought I'd long for JD Vance's beard,

thought I'd long for JD Vance's beard,

thought I'd long for JD Vance's beard, but it turns out the thing none of us

but it turns out the thing none of us

but it turns out the thing none of us needed from him was more face. Without a

needed from him was more face. Without a

needed from him was more face. Without a beard, he looks like Radio Shack's

beard, he looks like Radio Shack's

beard, he looks like Radio Shack's assistant store manager of the year

assistant store manager of the year

assistant store manager of the year 1998. He looks like he played Cartman in

1998. He looks like he played Cartman in

1998. He looks like he played Cartman in a liveaction South Park movie. But but

a liveaction South Park movie. But but

a liveaction South Park movie. But but also it is strange to see such a nuanced

also it is strange to see such a nuanced

also it is strange to see such a nuanced tone from a guy who's since become such

tone from a guy who's since become such

tone from a guy who's since become such a troll. It'd be like finding old videos

a troll. It'd be like finding old videos

a troll. It'd be like finding old videos of your dog eating with a fork and a

of your dog eating with a fork and a

of your dog eating with a fork and a knife. What the Yesterday I

knife. What the Yesterday I

knife. What the Yesterday I watched you take a and then eat it

watched you take a and then eat it

watched you take a and then eat it mouth first. How on earth did we get

mouth first. How on earth did we get

mouth first. How on earth did we get from this to that?

from this to that?

from this to that? And while that may sound like a fairly

And while that may sound like a fairly

And while that may sound like a fairly even-handed critique, since then, France

even-handed critique, since then, France

even-handed critique, since then, France has clearly picked a side between

has clearly picked a side between

has clearly picked a side between blaming the elites of the Democratic

blaming the elites of the Democratic

blaming the elites of the Democratic Party and fingerpointing Republicans.

Party and fingerpointing Republicans.

Party and fingerpointing Republicans. And some of that may have to do with his

And some of that may have to do with his

And some of that may have to do with his mentor Peter Teal, the co-founder of

mentor Peter Teal, the co-founder of

mentor Peter Teal, the co-founder of PayPal and Palanteer, and a man who

PayPal and Palanteer, and a man who

PayPal and Palanteer, and a man who looks like he got stuck trying to

looks like he got stuck trying to

looks like he got stuck trying to between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk.

between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk.

between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. France has said of Teal that if there's

France has said of Teal that if there's

France has said of Teal that if there's something interesting going on and I

something interesting going on and I

something interesting going on and I want to bounce ideas off of a very

want to bounce ideas off of a very

want to bounce ideas off of a very fascinating and knowledgeable person,

fascinating and knowledgeable person,

fascinating and knowledgeable person, I'll give him a call. Which is worrying

I'll give him a call. Which is worrying

I'll give him a call. Which is worrying given Teal holds some troubling views.

given Teal holds some troubling views.

given Teal holds some troubling views. In 2009, he wrote that he no longer

In 2009, he wrote that he no longer

In 2009, he wrote that he no longer believed that freedom and democracy were

believed that freedom and democracy were

believed that freedom and democracy were compatible and more recently called the

compatible and more recently called the

compatible and more recently called the quest for diversity very evil, as well

quest for diversity very evil, as well

quest for diversity very evil, as well as giving multiple lectures around the

as giving multiple lectures around the

as giving multiple lectures around the idea that critics of technology or AI

idea that critics of technology or AI

idea that critics of technology or AI are legionnaires of the antichrist. Teal

are legionnaires of the antichrist. Teal

are legionnaires of the antichrist. Teal is a huge influence on Vance, who's

is a huge influence on Vance, who's

is a huge influence on Vance, who's attributed pretty much his entire career

attributed pretty much his entire career

attributed pretty much his entire career to Teal's mentorship. They met when Teal

to Teal's mentorship. They met when Teal

to Teal's mentorship. They met when Teal spoke at Yale when Vance was a student

spoke at Yale when Vance was a student

spoke at Yale when Vance was a student and Teal later wound up hiring him and

and Teal later wound up hiring him and

and Teal later wound up hiring him and eventually investing in his venture

eventually investing in his venture

eventually investing in his venture capital firm. He then backed Vance's

capital firm. He then backed Vance's

capital firm. He then backed Vance's 2022 Senate campaign with at that point

2022 Senate campaign with at that point

2022 Senate campaign with at that point the largest amount given to a single

the largest amount given to a single

the largest amount given to a single candidate in congressional history. That

candidate in congressional history. That

candidate in congressional history. That campaign, by the way, gave us this

campaign, by the way, gave us this

campaign, by the way, gave us this political ad with a truly iconic opening

political ad with a truly iconic opening

political ad with a truly iconic opening line written by Vance himself that

line written by Vance himself that

line written by Vance himself that somehow gets worse from there. Are you a

somehow gets worse from there. Are you a

somehow gets worse from there. Are you a racist? Do you hate Mexicans? The media

racist? Do you hate Mexicans? The media

racist? Do you hate Mexicans? The media calls us racists for wanting to build

calls us racists for wanting to build

calls us racists for wanting to build Trump's wall. They censor us, but it

Trump's wall. They censor us, but it

Trump's wall. They censor us, but it doesn't change the truth. Joe Biden's

doesn't change the truth. Joe Biden's

doesn't change the truth. Joe Biden's open border is killing Ohioans with more

open border is killing Ohioans with more

open border is killing Ohioans with more illegal drugs and more Democrat voters

illegal drugs and more Democrat voters

illegal drugs and more Democrat voters pouring into this country. This issue is

pouring into this country. This issue is

pouring into this country. This issue is personal. I nearly lost my mother to the

personal. I nearly lost my mother to the

personal. I nearly lost my mother to the poison coming across our border. No

poison coming across our border. No

poison coming across our border. No child should grow up an orphan. I'm JD

child should grow up an orphan. I'm JD

child should grow up an orphan. I'm JD Vance and I approve this message because

Vance and I approve this message because

Vance and I approve this message because whatever they call us, we will put

whatever they call us, we will put

whatever they call us, we will put America first. That whole ad has a

America first. That whole ad has a

America first. That whole ad has a terrible vibe and I don't think anything

terrible vibe and I don't think anything

terrible vibe and I don't think anything could fix it. Not even the fact that you

could fix it. Not even the fact that you

could fix it. Not even the fact that you could sing the beginning to the opening

could sing the beginning to the opening

could sing the beginning to the opening of Bohemian Raps City and it scans

of Bohemian Raps City and it scans

of Bohemian Raps City and it scans perfectly. Are you a racist?

perfectly. Are you a racist?

perfectly. Are you a racist? Do you hate Mexicans?

Do you hate Mexicans?

Do you hate Mexicans? Two questions by the way. He never ends

Two questions by the way. He never ends

Two questions by the way. He never ends up answering there. It was during that

up answering there. It was during that

up answering there. It was during that campaign that Vance made that appearance

campaign that Vance made that appearance

campaign that Vance made that appearance with Trump that you saw earlier. And I

with Trump that you saw earlier. And I

with Trump that you saw earlier. And I wish I could tell you what happened to

wish I could tell you what happened to

wish I could tell you what happened to him between 2016 and that moment, but

him between 2016 and that moment, but

him between 2016 and that moment, but sadly, I am not a mind readader or the

sadly, I am not a mind readader or the

sadly, I am not a mind readader or the therapist he so desperately needs. Vance

therapist he so desperately needs. Vance

therapist he so desperately needs. Vance will claim it's because he believed

will claim it's because he believed

will claim it's because he believed Trump turned out to be a great president

Trump turned out to be a great president

Trump turned out to be a great president in his first term. Others might say he's

in his first term. Others might say he's

in his first term. Others might say he's a power- hungry ladder climber who saw

a power- hungry ladder climber who saw

a power- hungry ladder climber who saw that the MAGA was the only way up. But

that the MAGA was the only way up. But

that the MAGA was the only way up. But I'd argue his shift was both

I'd argue his shift was both

I'd argue his shift was both opportunistic and genuine because Vance

opportunistic and genuine because Vance

opportunistic and genuine because Vance has seemed to have journeyied farther

has seemed to have journeyied farther

has seemed to have journeyied farther and farther into some pretty far-right

and farther into some pretty far-right

and farther into some pretty far-right thought. Chris Rufo, the conservative

thought. Chris Rufo, the conservative

thought. Chris Rufo, the conservative activist, has jokingly described Vance's

activist, has jokingly described Vance's

activist, has jokingly described Vance's evolution as taking him from the pages

evolution as taking him from the pages

evolution as taking him from the pages of National Review to the fever swamp of

of National Review to the fever swamp of

of National Review to the fever swamp of right-wing Twitter. And Vance himself

right-wing Twitter. And Vance himself

right-wing Twitter. And Vance himself has said he's plugged into a lot of

has said he's plugged into a lot of

has said he's plugged into a lot of weird right-wing subcultures, which

weird right-wing subcultures, which

weird right-wing subcultures, which isn't something you want to hear from

isn't something you want to hear from

isn't something you want to hear from your Tinder date, let alone the

your Tinder date, let alone the

your Tinder date, let alone the vice president. In fact, in many ways,

vice president. In fact, in many ways,

vice president. In fact, in many ways, he's become the archetype of the

he's become the archetype of the

he's become the archetype of the hyperonline conservative troll, right

hyperonline conservative troll, right

hyperonline conservative troll, right down to the whole kidding, not kidding,

down to the whole kidding, not kidding,

down to the whole kidding, not kidding, trigger the libs shtick. Just watch him

trigger the libs shtick. Just watch him

trigger the libs shtick. Just watch him brag about doing exactly that at an

brag about doing exactly that at an

brag about doing exactly that at an event a few years ago.

event a few years ago.

event a few years ago. >> I got myself into a little hot water

>> I got myself into a little hot water

>> I got myself into a little hot water last week. Uh because I made what what

last week. Uh because I made what what

last week. Uh because I made what what what seemed to me a plainly obvious

what seemed to me a plainly obvious

what seemed to me a plainly obvious observation that Alex Jones, the

observation that Alex Jones, the

observation that Alex Jones, the Infowars guy, is a better source of

Infowars guy, is a better source of

Infowars guy, is a better source of information than Rachel Madowl, the

information than Rachel Madowl, the

information than Rachel Madowl, the MSNBC gal. Now, some people said, "Well,

MSNBC gal. Now, some people said, "Well,

MSNBC gal. Now, some people said, "Well, JD, you're just trolling." Well, yeah,

JD, you're just trolling." Well, yeah,

JD, you're just trolling." Well, yeah, of course I was just trolling,

of course I was just trolling,

of course I was just trolling, but that doesn't mean what I said is in

but that doesn't mean what I said is in

but that doesn't mean what I said is in any way untrue. Okay? So, with with all

any way untrue. Okay? So, with with all

any way untrue. Okay? So, with with all due respect, which to be perfectly clear

due respect, which to be perfectly clear

due respect, which to be perfectly clear is non saying that Alex a billion

is non saying that Alex a billion

is non saying that Alex a billion dollars in defamation damages Jones, is

dollars in defamation damages Jones, is

dollars in defamation damages Jones, is a better source of information than

a better source of information than

a better source of information than Rachel Matto is just laughable. The

Rachel Matto is just laughable. The

Rachel Matto is just laughable. The man's entire brand was called Infowars.

man's entire brand was called Infowars.

man's entire brand was called Infowars. Also, calling Rachel Matt out the MSNBC

Also, calling Rachel Matt out the MSNBC

Also, calling Rachel Matt out the MSNBC gal is off base for so many reasons,

gal is off base for so many reasons,

gal is off base for so many reasons, including that she does not remotely

including that she does not remotely

including that she does not remotely give off the breezy energy that you

give off the breezy energy that you

give off the breezy energy that you associate with that word. Julia Roberts,

associate with that word. Julia Roberts,

associate with that word. Julia Roberts, that's a gal. Reese Witherspoon,

that's a gal. Reese Witherspoon,

that's a gal. Reese Witherspoon, definitely a gal. Paul Rudd, such a gal.

definitely a gal. Paul Rudd, such a gal.

definitely a gal. Paul Rudd, such a gal. Rachel Maddo, though, not so much. And

Rachel Maddo, though, not so much. And

Rachel Maddo, though, not so much. And Vance went on to expand on what he meant

Vance went on to expand on what he meant

Vance went on to expand on what he meant by that. Ladies and gentlemen, the most

by that. Ladies and gentlemen, the most

by that. Ladies and gentlemen, the most important truths

important truths

important truths often come from people who are crazy 60%

often come from people who are crazy 60%

often come from people who are crazy 60% of the time, but they're right 40% of

of the time, but they're right 40% of

of the time, but they're right 40% of the time. I'm very close friends with

the time. I'm very close friends with

the time. I'm very close friends with Peter Teal. I think Peter Teal is one of

Peter Teal. I think Peter Teal is one of

Peter Teal. I think Peter Teal is one of the most important sources of

the most important sources of

the most important sources of non-conventional truth in our society.

non-conventional truth in our society.

non-conventional truth in our society. Peter Teal believes some things that are

Peter Teal believes some things that are

Peter Teal believes some things that are considered crazy by opinion makers. We

considered crazy by opinion makers. We

considered crazy by opinion makers. We have to get away from this weird tension

have to get away from this weird tension

have to get away from this weird tension that we feel in our chest when somebody

that we feel in our chest when somebody

that we feel in our chest when somebody says, "This person believes something

says, "This person believes something

says, "This person believes something crazy, therefore you must denounce

crazy, therefore you must denounce

crazy, therefore you must denounce them." Believing crazy things is not the

them." Believing crazy things is not the

them." Believing crazy things is not the mark of whether somebody should be

mark of whether somebody should be

mark of whether somebody should be rejected. Believing important truths

rejected. Believing important truths

rejected. Believing important truths should be the mark of whether we accept

should be the mark of whether we accept

should be the mark of whether we accept somebody. And if they believe some crazy

somebody. And if they believe some crazy

somebody. And if they believe some crazy things on the side, that's fine. We need

things on the side, that's fine. We need

things on the side, that's fine. We need to be okay with non-conventional people.

to be okay with non-conventional people.

to be okay with non-conventional people. >> Okay, so here's the thing. We generally

>> Okay, so here's the thing. We generally

>> Okay, so here's the thing. We generally are okay with non-conventional people.

are okay with non-conventional people.

are okay with non-conventional people. I'd argue some of our best people are

I'd argue some of our best people are

I'd argue some of our best people are nonconventional. Cindy Looper, Lady

nonconventional. Cindy Looper, Lady

nonconventional. Cindy Looper, Lady Gaga, Barbara Stryisant, she cloned her

Gaga, Barbara Stryisant, she cloned her

Gaga, Barbara Stryisant, she cloned her dog and has a tiny mole in the basement

dog and has a tiny mole in the basement

dog and has a tiny mole in the basement of her house. But if Babs came out and

of her house. But if Babs came out and

of her house. But if Babs came out and said Sandy Hook was staged, you'd be

said Sandy Hook was staged, you'd be

said Sandy Hook was staged, you'd be justified in retiring your DVD copy of

justified in retiring your DVD copy of

justified in retiring your DVD copy of Yentle. And look, in some ways, that is

Yentle. And look, in some ways, that is

Yentle. And look, in some ways, that is a very convenient argument for hanging

a very convenient argument for hanging

a very convenient argument for hanging out with odious people. Relax. I don't

out with odious people. Relax. I don't

out with odious people. Relax. I don't agree with everything they say, just the

agree with everything they say, just the

agree with everything they say, just the important truths. But it's worth knowing

important truths. But it's worth knowing

important truths. But it's worth knowing just how closely aligned France is with

just how closely aligned France is with

just how closely aligned France is with some pretty extreme thinkers. He's close

some pretty extreme thinkers. He's close

some pretty extreme thinkers. He's close friends with the conservative writer Rod

friends with the conservative writer Rod

friends with the conservative writer Rod Dreer, who said, among other things,

Dreer, who said, among other things,

Dreer, who said, among other things, that LGBT activism is the tip of the

that LGBT activism is the tip of the

that LGBT activism is the tip of the spear at our throats in the culture war.

spear at our throats in the culture war.

spear at our throats in the culture war. Vance also wrote a glowing blurb for a

Vance also wrote a glowing blurb for a

Vance also wrote a glowing blurb for a book co-written by the farright activist

book co-written by the farright activist

book co-written by the farright activist Jack Pobic who promoted the Pizzagate

Jack Pobic who promoted the Pizzagate

Jack Pobic who promoted the Pizzagate hoax. A book by the way called unhumans,

hoax. A book by the way called unhumans,

hoax. A book by the way called unhumans, a term that it uses for people on the

a term that it uses for people on the

a term that it uses for people on the left who it says undo civilization

left who it says undo civilization

left who it says undo civilization itself. He's also expressed admiration

itself. He's also expressed admiration

itself. He's also expressed admiration for Curtis Yavin, a self-proclaimed

for Curtis Yavin, a self-proclaimed

for Curtis Yavin, a self-proclaimed neo-reactionary who's not only said

neo-reactionary who's not only said

neo-reactionary who's not only said things like, "We should put the church

things like, "We should put the church

things like, "We should put the church blacks in charge of the ghetto blacks."

blacks in charge of the ghetto blacks."

blacks in charge of the ghetto blacks." He's also argued for a policy he called

He's also argued for a policy he called

He's also argued for a policy he called rage, retire all government employees to

rage, retire all government employees to

rage, retire all government employees to seize and consolidate power. That

seize and consolidate power. That

seize and consolidate power. That thought clearly made its way into

thought clearly made its way into

thought clearly made its way into Vance's head and then straight back out

Vance's head and then straight back out

Vance's head and then straight back out of his mouth during this interview.

of his mouth during this interview.

of his mouth during this interview. >> There's this guy Curtis Yarvin who's

>> There's this guy Curtis Yarvin who's

>> There's this guy Curtis Yarvin who's written um about some of these things. I

written um about some of these things. I

written um about some of these things. I think that what Trump should do, like if

think that what Trump should do, like if

think that what Trump should do, like if I was giving him one piece of advice,

I was giving him one piece of advice,

I was giving him one piece of advice, fire every single mid-level bureaucrat,

fire every single mid-level bureaucrat,

fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the

every civil servant in the

every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with

administrative state, replace them with

administrative state, replace them with our people, and when the courts, because

our people, and when the courts, because

our people, and when the courts, because you will get taken to court, and then

you will get taken to court, and then

you will get taken to court, and then when the courts stop you, stand before

when the courts stop you, stand before

when the courts stop you, stand before the country like Andrew Jackson did, and

the country like Andrew Jackson did, and

the country like Andrew Jackson did, and say, "The Chief Justice has made his

say, "The Chief Justice has made his

say, "The Chief Justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it."

ruling, now let him enforce it."

ruling, now let him enforce it." >> Yeah. Not ideal. And while many people

>> Yeah. Not ideal. And while many people

>> Yeah. Not ideal. And while many people do erroneously think Andrew Jackson said

do erroneously think Andrew Jackson said

do erroneously think Andrew Jackson said that as part of the runup incidentally

that as part of the runup incidentally

that as part of the runup incidentally to the Trail of Tears, there's no

to the Trail of Tears, there's no

to the Trail of Tears, there's no evidence that he did. And if we're going

evidence that he did. And if we're going

evidence that he did. And if we're going to completely make up Andrew Jackson

to completely make up Andrew Jackson

to completely make up Andrew Jackson quotes, how about this one? The Chief

quotes, how about this one? The Chief

quotes, how about this one? The Chief Justice has made his ruling now let him

Justice has made his ruling now let him

Justice has made his ruling now let him enforce it. Also, I really hope in the

enforce it. Also, I really hope in the

enforce it. Also, I really hope in the future my fans are cool. If my

future my fans are cool. If my

future my fans are cool. If my historical legacy is two fishlit weird

historical legacy is two fishlit weird

historical legacy is two fishlit weird bids broing out about me on a podcast,

bids broing out about me on a podcast,

bids broing out about me on a podcast, do me a favor, dig me up and kill me

do me a favor, dig me up and kill me

do me a favor, dig me up and kill me again.

again.

again. And it's worth noting that in Vanc's

And it's worth noting that in Vanc's

And it's worth noting that in Vanc's vast amount of time online, he's ended

vast amount of time online, he's ended

vast amount of time online, he's ended up promoting some flagrantly racist

up promoting some flagrantly racist

up promoting some flagrantly racist It tends to get forgotten, but

It tends to get forgotten, but

It tends to get forgotten, but Trump's whole they're eating the dogs,

Trump's whole they're eating the dogs,

Trump's whole they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats meltdown in the

they're eating the cats meltdown in the

they're eating the cats meltdown in the presidential debate came after Vance

presidential debate came after Vance

presidential debate came after Vance elevated a false rumor that Haitian

elevated a false rumor that Haitian

elevated a false rumor that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio were

immigrants in Springfield, Ohio were

immigrants in Springfield, Ohio were eating people's pets. And after it all

eating people's pets. And after it all

eating people's pets. And after it all blew up and it became clear that the

blew up and it became clear that the

blew up and it became clear that the whole thing was total nonsense, Vance

whole thing was total nonsense, Vance

whole thing was total nonsense, Vance doubled down in a pretty revealing way.

doubled down in a pretty revealing way.

doubled down in a pretty revealing way. when you have a lot of people saying my

when you have a lot of people saying my

when you have a lot of people saying my pets are being abducted or geese at the

pets are being abducted or geese at the

pets are being abducted or geese at the city pond are being abducted and

city pond are being abducted and

city pond are being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us. This

slaughtered right in front of us. This

slaughtered right in front of us. This is crazy stuff. And again, whether those

is crazy stuff. And again, whether those

is crazy stuff. And again, whether those exact rumors turn out to be mostly true,

exact rumors turn out to be mostly true,

exact rumors turn out to be mostly true, somewhat true, whatever the case may be,

somewhat true, whatever the case may be,

somewhat true, whatever the case may be, Caitlyn, this town has been ravaged by

Caitlyn, this town has been ravaged by

Caitlyn, this town has been ravaged by 20,000 migrants coming in. Health care

20,000 migrants coming in. Health care

20,000 migrants coming in. Health care costs are up. Housing costs are up.

costs are up. Housing costs are up.

costs are up. Housing costs are up. Communicable diseases like HIV and TB

Communicable diseases like HIV and TB

Communicable diseases like HIV and TB have skyrocketed in this small Ohio

have skyrocketed in this small Ohio

have skyrocketed in this small Ohio town. This is what Kla Harris's border

town. This is what Kla Harris's border

town. This is what Kla Harris's border policies have done. And I think it's

policies have done. And I think it's

policies have done. And I think it's interesting, Caitlyn, that the the media

interesting, Caitlyn, that the the media

interesting, Caitlyn, that the the media didn't care about the carnage wrought by

didn't care about the carnage wrought by

didn't care about the carnage wrought by these policies until we turned it into a

these policies until we turned it into a

these policies until we turned it into a meme about cats. Okay, first just a

meme about cats. Okay, first just a

meme about cats. Okay, first just a quick shout out to this look on Caitlyn

quick shout out to this look on Caitlyn

quick shout out to this look on Caitlyn Collins's face cuz our eyes are saying

Collins's face cuz our eyes are saying

Collins's face cuz our eyes are saying what we are all thinking there which is

what we are all thinking there which is

what we are all thinking there which is is this guy for real right now?

is this guy for real right now?

is this guy for real right now? Second, you didn't turn it into a meme

Second, you didn't turn it into a meme

Second, you didn't turn it into a meme about cats. You shared misinformation

about cats. You shared misinformation

about cats. You shared misinformation that turned a whole town upside down.

that turned a whole town upside down.

that turned a whole town upside down. And it wasn't even the fun kind of

And it wasn't even the fun kind of

And it wasn't even the fun kind of misinformation like when that same

misinformation like when that same

misinformation like when that same summer everyone got convinced JD Vance

summer everyone got convinced JD Vance

summer everyone got convinced JD Vance had a couch. A theory that went

had a couch. A theory that went

had a couch. A theory that went so viral it led to us calling Vance's

so viral it led to us calling Vance's

so viral it led to us calling Vance's team and asking, "Has the senator ever

team and asking, "Has the senator ever

team and asking, "Has the senator ever had sex with a couch?" To which, by the

had sex with a couch?" To which, by the

had sex with a couch?" To which, by the way, they hung up on us. We then emailed

way, they hung up on us. We then emailed

way, they hung up on us. We then emailed them the same question, as well as

them the same question, as well as

them the same question, as well as asking, "What about sex with a latex

asking, "What about sex with a latex

asking, "What about sex with a latex gloves stuffed between two couch

gloves stuffed between two couch

gloves stuffed between two couch cushions? Has Senator Advance ever had

cushions? Has Senator Advance ever had

cushions? Has Senator Advance ever had sex with any other furniture or

sex with any other furniture or

sex with any other furniture or household items? And anything else you'd

household items? And anything else you'd

household items? And anything else you'd like to add at this time?" And they

like to add at this time?" And they

like to add at this time?" And they still haven't responded to us, which

still haven't responded to us, which

still haven't responded to us, which isn't exactly a resounding no, is it?

isn't exactly a resounding no, is it?

isn't exactly a resounding no, is it? And it's not like it is hard to deny

And it's not like it is hard to deny

And it's not like it is hard to deny that you a couch. In fact, if you

that you a couch. In fact, if you

that you a couch. In fact, if you email has John Oliver a couch at

email has John Oliver a couch at

email has John Oliver a couch at has John Oliver a couch.com and

has John Oliver a couch.com and

has John Oliver a couch.com and ask if I have one, I promise

ask if I have one, I promise

ask if I have one, I promise you'll be emailed right back with an

you'll be emailed right back with an

you'll be emailed right back with an answer of no way.

answer of no way.

answer of no way. Anyway, that exchange is basically JD

Anyway, that exchange is basically JD

Anyway, that exchange is basically JD Vance in a nutshell. He told a racist

Vance in a nutshell. He told a racist

Vance in a nutshell. He told a racist lie he found on social media, doubled

lie he found on social media, doubled

lie he found on social media, doubled down, then tried to play the you elites

down, then tried to play the you elites

down, then tried to play the you elites don't get it card to huff his way out of

don't get it card to huff his way out of

don't get it card to huff his way out of the whole thing. And at this point, it's

the whole thing. And at this point, it's

the whole thing. And at this point, it's probably worth talking about where JD

probably worth talking about where JD

probably worth talking about where JD Vance's political evolution has taken

Vance's political evolution has taken

Vance's political evolution has taken him because it's pretty grim. On

him because it's pretty grim. On

him because it's pretty grim. On immigration, he's argued that while he

immigration, he's argued that while he

immigration, he's argued that while he bears no personal animus toward

bears no personal animus toward

bears no personal animus toward immigrants, they're the cause of many

immigrants, they're the cause of many

immigrants, they're the cause of many problems Americans face. He's claimed

problems Americans face. He's claimed

problems Americans face. He's claimed we're bankrupting a lot of hospitals by

we're bankrupting a lot of hospitals by

we're bankrupting a lot of hospitals by forcing them to provide care for people

forcing them to provide care for people

forcing them to provide care for people who don't have the legal right to be in

who don't have the legal right to be in

who don't have the legal right to be in our country. And he said that illegal

our country. And he said that illegal

our country. And he said that illegal aliens competing with Americans for

aliens competing with Americans for

aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most

scarce homes is one of the most

scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in

significant drivers of home prices in

significant drivers of home prices in the country. to assertions, by the way,

the country. to assertions, by the way,

the country. to assertions, by the way, that have been soundly rejected by

that have been soundly rejected by

that have been soundly rejected by experts. And when he's talking about

experts. And when he's talking about

experts. And when he's talking about immigrants to conservative audiences,

immigrants to conservative audiences,

immigrants to conservative audiences, the mask can slip all the way off.

the mask can slip all the way off.

the mask can slip all the way off. >> There is a logic to what the Democrats

>> There is a logic to what the Democrats

>> There is a logic to what the Democrats are trying to do. It's disgusting, but

are trying to do. It's disgusting, but

are trying to do. It's disgusting, but there's a logic to it. They want illegal

there's a logic to it. They want illegal

there's a logic to it. They want illegal aliens to steal everybody's job. And now

aliens to steal everybody's job. And now

aliens to steal everybody's job. And now they want illegal aliens to steal

they want illegal aliens to steal

they want illegal aliens to steal everybody's vote. It is totally

everybody's vote. It is totally

everybody's vote. It is totally reasonable and acceptable for American

reasonable and acceptable for American

reasonable and acceptable for American citizens to look at their nextdoor

citizens to look at their nextdoor

citizens to look at their nextdoor neighbors and say, "I want to live next

neighbors and say, "I want to live next

neighbors and say, "I want to live next to people who I have something in common

to people who I have something in common

to people who I have something in common with. I don't want to live next to four

with. I don't want to live next to four

with. I don't want to live next to four families of strangers." Look, the the

families of strangers." Look, the the

families of strangers." Look, the the the thing on immigration is that no one

the thing on immigration is that no one

the thing on immigration is that no one can avoid that it has made our societies

can avoid that it has made our societies

can avoid that it has made our societies poorer, less safe, less prosperous, and

poorer, less safe, less prosperous, and

poorer, less safe, less prosperous, and less advanced. Okay, that is just route

less advanced. Okay, that is just route

less advanced. Okay, that is just route one bigotry. Also, it's a bit of a tell

one bigotry. Also, it's a bit of a tell

one bigotry. Also, it's a bit of a tell to say that you want to be able to look

to say that you want to be able to look

to say that you want to be able to look at your neighbors and have something in

at your neighbors and have something in

at your neighbors and have something in common with them. That only really means

common with them. That only really means

common with them. That only really means one thing. And for what it's worth here,

one thing. And for what it's worth here,

one thing. And for what it's worth here, I don't think most people's biggest

I don't think most people's biggest

I don't think most people's biggest priority in neighbors is having

priority in neighbors is having

priority in neighbors is having something in common with them. It's just

something in common with them. It's just

something in common with them. It's just hoping and praying that they don't have

hoping and praying that they don't have

hoping and praying that they don't have a creepy trampoline kid who stares in

a creepy trampoline kid who stares in

a creepy trampoline kid who stares in your windows all day. Can you can you

your windows all day. Can you can you

your windows all day. Can you can you please can you at least can you can you

please can you at least can you can you

please can you at least can you can you just bounce the other way? C can you do

just bounce the other way? C can you do

just bounce the other way? C can you do an other way bounce?

But remarks like those are part of a

But remarks like those are part of a

But remarks like those are part of a pattern advance expressing anxiety that

pattern advance expressing anxiety that

pattern advance expressing anxiety that immigrants could replace Americans with

immigrants could replace Americans with

immigrants could replace Americans with lines like you can't have so many people

lines like you can't have so many people

lines like you can't have so many people coming to the country at a time when our

coming to the country at a time when our

coming to the country at a time when our own families aren't replicating

own families aren't replicating

own families aren't replicating themselves. And that gets to another of

themselves. And that gets to another of

themselves. And that gets to another of his major obsessions, which is Americans

his major obsessions, which is Americans

his major obsessions, which is Americans having more children. To hear him tell

having more children. To hear him tell

having more children. To hear him tell it, it's an existential crisis. He's

it, it's an existential crisis. He's

it, it's an existential crisis. He's complained about the childless left and

complained about the childless left and

complained about the childless left and said the rejection of the American

said the rejection of the American

said the rejection of the American family is perhaps the most penicious and

family is perhaps the most penicious and

family is perhaps the most penicious and evil thing the left has done, which is

evil thing the left has done, which is

evil thing the left has done, which is both untrue and just ridiculous. The

both untrue and just ridiculous. The

both untrue and just ridiculous. The most evil thing the left has ever done

most evil thing the left has ever done

most evil thing the left has ever done would be hands down these

would be hands down these

would be hands down these candles.

candles.

candles. But this is a big deal to Vance. Over

But this is a big deal to Vance. Over

But this is a big deal to Vance. Over the years, he's repeatedly focused on

the years, he's repeatedly focused on

the years, he's repeatedly focused on prominent Democrats who didn't at that

prominent Democrats who didn't at that

prominent Democrats who didn't at that point have kids, among them AOC and Pete

point have kids, among them AOC and Pete

point have kids, among them AOC and Pete Budajedge, to draw some sweeping

Budajedge, to draw some sweeping

Budajedge, to draw some sweeping conclusions.

conclusions.

conclusions. >> There just these basic cadences of life

>> There just these basic cadences of life

>> There just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and

that I think are really powerful and

that I think are really powerful and really, really valuable when you have

really, really valuable when you have

really, really valuable when you have kids in your life. And the fact that so

kids in your life. And the fact that so

kids in your life. And the fact that so many people, especially in America's

many people, especially in America's

many people, especially in America's leadership class, just don't have that

leadership class, just don't have that

leadership class, just don't have that in their lives. You know, I I worry that

in their lives. You know, I I worry that

in their lives. You know, I I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and

it makes people more sociopathic and

it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little

ultimately our whole country a little

ultimately our whole country a little bit less uh less mentally stable.

bit less uh less mentally stable.

bit less uh less mentally stable. >> Wow.

>> Wow.

>> Wow. Having kids makes you mentally stable

Having kids makes you mentally stable

Having kids makes you mentally stable is something only someone who is not the

is something only someone who is not the

is something only someone who is not the default parent would say. Because try

default parent would say. Because try

default parent would say. Because try working a full-time job. Always tracking

working a full-time job. Always tracking

working a full-time job. Always tracking when the diapers are about to run out,

when the diapers are about to run out,

when the diapers are about to run out, what size shoes your kids wear, what

what size shoes your kids wear, what

what size shoes your kids wear, what they won't eat for lunch at daycare,

they won't eat for lunch at daycare,

they won't eat for lunch at daycare, which toys their favorite, when the

which toys their favorite, when the

which toys their favorite, when the doctor's appointments are, when picture

doctor's appointments are, when picture

doctor's appointments are, when picture day is, which songs you have to sing to

day is, which songs you have to sing to

day is, which songs you have to sing to get them to sleep, how many child

get them to sleep, how many child

get them to sleep, how many child birthday parties you have to attend this

birthday parties you have to attend this

birthday parties you have to attend this weekend, and which ones specifically

weekend, and which ones specifically

weekend, and which ones specifically requested gifts, and also if you leave

requested gifts, and also if you leave

requested gifts, and also if you leave the room, your child will scream bloody

the room, your child will scream bloody

the room, your child will scream bloody murder because you're the only one they

murder because you're the only one they

murder because you're the only one they want. I am not saying kids can't give

want. I am not saying kids can't give

want. I am not saying kids can't give you a lot of things like joy, purpose,

you a lot of things like joy, purpose,

you a lot of things like joy, purpose, and hand, foot, and mouth disease. But

and hand, foot, and mouth disease. But

and hand, foot, and mouth disease. But mental stability is not one of them.

mental stability is not one of them.

mental stability is not one of them. And when pressed on those remarks a few

And when pressed on those remarks a few

And when pressed on those remarks a few years later, Vance's answer wasn't

years later, Vance's answer wasn't

years later, Vance's answer wasn't great.

great.

great. >> Your position on those family values

>> Your position on those family values

>> Your position on those family values have gotten a lot of scrutiny lately.

have gotten a lot of scrutiny lately.

have gotten a lot of scrutiny lately. >> Sure.

>> Sure.

>> Sure. >> Uh you've talked about childless cat

>> Uh you've talked about childless cat

>> Uh you've talked about childless cat ladies. Um you've called childless

ladies. Um you've called childless

ladies. Um you've called childless people sociopathic, psychotic, deranged,

people sociopathic, psychotic, deranged,

people sociopathic, psychotic, deranged, and I know that you've said that those

and I know that you've said that those

and I know that you've said that those comments were sarcastic,

comments were sarcastic,

comments were sarcastic, but it's hard to hear those words

but it's hard to hear those words

but it's hard to hear those words entirely

entirely

entirely as a joke. What do you actually think of

as a joke. What do you actually think of

as a joke. What do you actually think of childless women in society?

childless women in society?

childless women in society? >> Well, as I said when I made those

>> Well, as I said when I made those

>> Well, as I said when I made those comments, and look, they were dumb

comments, and look, they were dumb

comments, and look, they were dumb comments. Uh I certainly um you know, I

comments. Uh I certainly um you know, I

comments. Uh I certainly um you know, I think most people probably who watch

think most people probably who watch

think most people probably who watch this have said something dumb, have said

this have said something dumb, have said

this have said something dumb, have said something that they wish they had put

something that they wish they had put

something that they wish they had put differently. And

differently. And

differently. And >> you said it over several in in several

>> you said it over several in in several

>> you said it over several in in several different venues

different venues

different venues >> in a very very short period of time. Oh

>> in a very very short period of time. Oh

>> in a very very short period of time. Oh well, you heard it here first, folks. If

well, you heard it here first, folks. If

well, you heard it here first, folks. If you're mean, dumb, and wrong, but in

you're mean, dumb, and wrong, but in

you're mean, dumb, and wrong, but in rapid succession, it's actually fine.

rapid succession, it's actually fine.

rapid succession, it's actually fine. And as for everyone says dumb stuff, not

And as for everyone says dumb stuff, not

And as for everyone says dumb stuff, not like that they don't. The normal dumb

like that they don't. The normal dumb

like that they don't. The normal dumb stuff people regret is usually things

stuff people regret is usually things

stuff people regret is usually things like Army Hammer is the next Dairo or

like Army Hammer is the next Dairo or

like Army Hammer is the next Dairo or sure, I'll have a third gordita crunch,

sure, I'll have a third gordita crunch,

sure, I'll have a third gordita crunch, but not childless women are sociopaths.

but not childless women are sociopaths.

but not childless women are sociopaths. And if France really does want to make

And if France really does want to make

And if France really does want to make it easier for people to raise kids,

it easier for people to raise kids,

it easier for people to raise kids, there are things he could support. But

there are things he could support. But

there are things he could support. But he hasn't done that. and some he's

he hasn't done that. and some he's

he hasn't done that. and some he's actively opposed. For instance, he's

actively opposed. For instance, he's

actively opposed. For instance, he's railed against universal daycare

railed against universal daycare

railed against universal daycare policies, calling it a class war against

policies, calling it a class war against

policies, calling it a class war against normal people and that normal Americans

normal people and that normal Americans

normal people and that normal Americans want a family policy that doesn't shunt

want a family policy that doesn't shunt

want a family policy that doesn't shunt their kids into crap daycare. And one of

their kids into crap daycare. And one of

their kids into crap daycare. And one of his solutions for high daycare costs was

his solutions for high daycare costs was

his solutions for high daycare costs was pretty infuriating. One of the ways that

pretty infuriating. One of the ways that

pretty infuriating. One of the ways that you might be able to relieve a little

you might be able to relieve a little

you might be able to relieve a little bit of pressure on people who are paying

bit of pressure on people who are paying

bit of pressure on people who are paying so much for daycare is make it so that

so much for daycare is make it so that

so much for daycare is make it so that that you know maybe like grandma or

that you know maybe like grandma or

that you know maybe like grandma or grandpa wants to help out a little bit

grandpa wants to help out a little bit

grandpa wants to help out a little bit more or maybe there's an aunt or uncle

more or maybe there's an aunt or uncle

more or maybe there's an aunt or uncle that wants to help out a little bit

that wants to help out a little bit

that wants to help out a little bit more. If that happens, you relieve some

more. If that happens, you relieve some

more. If that happens, you relieve some of the pressure on all the resources

of the pressure on all the resources

of the pressure on all the resources that were spent in a daycare. Holy

that were spent in a daycare. Holy

that were spent in a daycare. Holy that is brilliant.

that is brilliant.

that is brilliant. Have family help. How did no one think

Have family help. How did no one think

Have family help. How did no one think of this? Just call the grandparents who

of this? Just call the grandparents who

of this? Just call the grandparents who are definitely close by and alive. Or

are definitely close by and alive. Or

are definitely close by and alive. Or maybe an aunt and uncle who don't have

maybe an aunt and uncle who don't have

maybe an aunt and uncle who don't have jobs or children of their own to deal

jobs or children of their own to deal

jobs or children of their own to deal with. We can now close every daycare in

with. We can now close every daycare in

with. We can now close every daycare in the country because America's most

the country because America's most

the country because America's most eyelined boy genius. Just crack the

eyelined boy genius. Just crack the

eyelined boy genius. Just crack the code here. Pack a bunch of

code here. Pack a bunch of

code here. Pack a bunch of family members into your house to help

family members into your house to help

family members into your house to help out. Not too many though, or Jamie V

out. Not too many though, or Jamie V

out. Not too many though, or Jamie V will get nervous if he lives next door.

will get nervous if he lives next door.

will get nervous if he lives next door. And while he has gestured vaguely toward

And while he has gestured vaguely toward

And while he has gestured vaguely toward federal money to incentivize family to

federal money to incentivize family to

federal money to incentivize family to help out, I'll point out that hasn't

help out, I'll point out that hasn't

help out, I'll point out that hasn't happened. In fact, the only concrete

happened. In fact, the only concrete

happened. In fact, the only concrete action he took during his two years in

action he took during his two years in

action he took during his two years in the Senate when it comes to child care

the Senate when it comes to child care

the Senate when it comes to child care policy was introduced the failed

policy was introduced the failed

policy was introduced the failed fairness for stay-at-home parents act,

fairness for stay-at-home parents act,

fairness for stay-at-home parents act, which focused on helping parents who

which focused on helping parents who

which focused on helping parents who decided to leave the workforce

decided to leave the workforce

decided to leave the workforce altogether. And if you're getting the

altogether. And if you're getting the

altogether. And if you're getting the sense that what he really wants is to

sense that what he really wants is to

sense that what he really wants is to turn the clock back to the 1950s, you're

turn the clock back to the 1950s, you're

turn the clock back to the 1950s, you're getting warmer, especially given he's

getting warmer, especially given he's

getting warmer, especially given he's also expressed reservations about no

also expressed reservations about no

also expressed reservations about no fault divorce. And this is one of the

fault divorce. And this is one of the

fault divorce. And this is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual

great tricks that I think the sexual

great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American

revolution pulled on the American

revolution pulled on the American populace, which is this idea that like,

populace, which is this idea that like,

populace, which is this idea that like, well, okay, these marriages were

well, okay, these marriages were

well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were they

fundamentally, you know, they were they

fundamentally, you know, they were they were maybe even violent, but certainly

were maybe even violent, but certainly

were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of

they were unhappy. And so getting rid of

they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to

them and making it easier for people to

them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their

shift spouses like they change their

shift spouses like they change their underwear, that's going to make people

underwear, that's going to make people

underwear, that's going to make people happier in the long term. And maybe it

happier in the long term. And maybe it

happier in the long term. And maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though

worked out for the moms and dads, though

worked out for the moms and dads, though I'm skeptical, but it really didn't work

I'm skeptical, but it really didn't work

I'm skeptical, but it really didn't work out for the kids of those marriages.

out for the kids of those marriages.

out for the kids of those marriages. Yeah. He said we shouldn't have made it

Yeah. He said we shouldn't have made it

Yeah. He said we shouldn't have made it so easy for people to leave violent

so easy for people to leave violent

so easy for people to leave violent marriages, which is just wild for

marriages, which is just wild for

marriages, which is just wild for multiple reasons, including, you know

multiple reasons, including, you know

multiple reasons, including, you know what happened before you could easily

what happened before you could easily

what happened before you could easily get a divorce? Some women would kill

get a divorce? Some women would kill

get a divorce? Some women would kill their husbands. By making divorce easy

their husbands. By making divorce easy

their husbands. By making divorce easy and accessible, what we have definitely

and accessible, what we have definitely

and accessible, what we have definitely reduced is the amount of women in

reduced is the amount of women in

reduced is the amount of women in fabulous hats who claimed, "My husband

fabulous hats who claimed, "My husband

fabulous hats who claimed, "My husband fell ill suddenly."

fell ill suddenly."

fell ill suddenly." That is not just a victory for feminism,

That is not just a victory for feminism,

That is not just a victory for feminism, it is a lifesaver for shitty husbands

it is a lifesaver for shitty husbands

it is a lifesaver for shitty husbands everywhere. But it gets even worse

everywhere. But it gets even worse

everywhere. But it gets even worse because Vance is also hardline

because Vance is also hardline

because Vance is also hardline anti-abortion, as he explained in a

anti-abortion, as he explained in a

anti-abortion, as he explained in a radio interview when he ran for Senate.

radio interview when he ran for Senate.

radio interview when he ran for Senate. Should a woman be forced to carry a

Should a woman be forced to carry a

Should a woman be forced to carry a child to term after she has been the

child to term after she has been the

child to term after she has been the victim of incest or rape? Look, my view

victim of incest or rape? Look, my view

victim of incest or rape? Look, my view on this has been very clear and I think

on this has been very clear and I think

on this has been very clear and I think the question betrays a certain

the question betrays a certain

the question betrays a certain presumption that's wrong. It's not

presumption that's wrong. It's not

presumption that's wrong. It's not whether a woman should be forced to

whether a woman should be forced to

whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term. It's whether a

bring a child to term. It's whether a

bring a child to term. It's whether a child should be allowed to live even

child should be allowed to live even

child should be allowed to live even though the circumstances of that child's

though the circumstances of that child's

though the circumstances of that child's birth are somehow inconvenient or a

birth are somehow inconvenient or a

birth are somehow inconvenient or a problem to the society. The question

problem to the society. The question

problem to the society. The question really to me is about the baby. We want

really to me is about the baby. We want

really to me is about the baby. We want women to have opportunities. We want

women to have opportunities. We want

women to have opportunities. We want women to have choices. But above all, we

women to have choices. But above all, we

women to have choices. But above all, we want women and young boys in the womb to

want women and young boys in the womb to

want women and young boys in the womb to have the right to life.

have the right to life.

have the right to life. >> Okay, every part of that is awful. Not

>> Okay, every part of that is awful. Not

>> Okay, every part of that is awful. Not just calling becoming pregnant by rape

just calling becoming pregnant by rape

just calling becoming pregnant by rape an inconvenience or taking women out of

an inconvenience or taking women out of

an inconvenience or taking women out of the pregnancy equation altogether, but

the pregnancy equation altogether, but

the pregnancy equation altogether, but also the phrase young boys in the womb.

also the phrase young boys in the womb.

also the phrase young boys in the womb. What the is wrong with you? If you

What the is wrong with you? If you

What the is wrong with you? If you can't discuss the realities of pregnancy

can't discuss the realities of pregnancy

can't discuss the realities of pregnancy without sounding like a high school

without sounding like a high school

without sounding like a high school football coach subbing a health class,

football coach subbing a health class,

football coach subbing a health class, don't comment on them at all. So, that

don't comment on them at all. So, that

don't comment on them at all. So, that is at least in part who JD Vance is. And

is at least in part who JD Vance is. And

is at least in part who JD Vance is. And I'd argue it is repellent. But the

I'd argue it is repellent. But the

I'd argue it is repellent. But the dangerous thing is he's proven himself

dangerous thing is he's proven himself

dangerous thing is he's proven himself able to hide the worst parts of himself

able to hide the worst parts of himself

able to hide the worst parts of himself at moments when the most people are

at moments when the most people are

at moments when the most people are watching him. Take the VP debate where

watching him. Take the VP debate where

watching him. Take the VP debate where for 90 minutes he managed to come off as

for 90 minutes he managed to come off as

for 90 minutes he managed to come off as measured, reasonable, and compassionate.

measured, reasonable, and compassionate.

measured, reasonable, and compassionate. Several times during that debate, Tim

Several times during that debate, Tim

Several times during that debate, Tim Waltz actually said, "I agree with you."

Waltz actually said, "I agree with you."

Waltz actually said, "I agree with you." And once it was over, many analysts

And once it was over, many analysts

And once it was over, many analysts seemed surprised by what they just seen.

seemed surprised by what they just seen.

seemed surprised by what they just seen. >> Let's face it, Vance looked very

>> Let's face it, Vance looked very

>> Let's face it, Vance looked very reasonable. He looked rational.

reasonable. He looked rational.

reasonable. He looked rational. >> He seemed at many moments to be

>> He seemed at many moments to be

>> He seemed at many moments to be reasonable. Yeah.

reasonable. Yeah.

reasonable. Yeah. >> Um, and that was clearly a change in

>> Um, and that was clearly a change in

>> Um, and that was clearly a change in tone. I was getting texts from Democrats

tone. I was getting texts from Democrats

tone. I was getting texts from Democrats panicked, quite frankly, who were

panicked, quite frankly, who were

panicked, quite frankly, who were saying, "Wow, he's really moderating

saying, "Wow, he's really moderating

saying, "Wow, he's really moderating himself on a lot of these issues. He's

himself on a lot of these issues. He's

himself on a lot of these issues. He's the most likable he has ever been."

the most likable he has ever been."

the most likable he has ever been." >> Yeah, it's true. Even though for what

>> Yeah, it's true. Even though for what

>> Yeah, it's true. Even though for what it's worth, it's not like that is the

it's worth, it's not like that is the

it's worth, it's not like that is the highest bar to clear, is it? He's

highest bar to clear, is it? He's

highest bar to clear, is it? He's basically saying the mutinex mascot is

basically saying the mutinex mascot is

basically saying the mutinex mascot is more than ever. That's not

more than ever. That's not

more than ever. That's not saying as much as it frankly should. The

saying as much as it frankly should. The

saying as much as it frankly should. The point here is when the next election

point here is when the next election

point here is when the next election rolls around, if he can put that act

rolls around, if he can put that act

rolls around, if he can put that act back on when everyone is looking, we may

back on when everyone is looking, we may

back on when everyone is looking, we may be in trouble. All of which is why it is

be in trouble. All of which is why it is

be in trouble. All of which is why it is so important to remember who JD Vance

so important to remember who JD Vance

so important to remember who JD Vance actually is because he'll present

actually is because he'll present

actually is because he'll present himself as an anti- elicitist man of the

himself as an anti- elicitist man of the

himself as an anti- elicitist man of the people. But much of his career has been

people. But much of his career has been

people. But much of his career has been bankrolled by tech billionaires. He

bankrolled by tech billionaires. He

bankrolled by tech billionaires. He he'll go to bat for Alex Jones, arguing

he'll go to bat for Alex Jones, arguing

he'll go to bat for Alex Jones, arguing we should show grace to those who are

we should show grace to those who are

we should show grace to those who are 40% right. But he'll happily cosign on

40% right. But he'll happily cosign on

40% right. But he'll happily cosign on childless people being sociopaths and

childless people being sociopaths and

childless people being sociopaths and the left being unhumans. He'll offer

the left being unhumans. He'll offer

the left being unhumans. He'll offer empathy and understanding when it comes

empathy and understanding when it comes

empathy and understanding when it comes to non-conventional thinkers, but has no

to non-conventional thinkers, but has no

to non-conventional thinkers, but has no problem deriding immigrants as a net

problem deriding immigrants as a net

problem deriding immigrants as a net negative on society. And it's not hard

negative on society. And it's not hard

negative on society. And it's not hard to see what the difference between those

to see what the difference between those

to see what the difference between those two groups are. The point is, I know

two groups are. The point is, I know

two groups are. The point is, I know Vance is easy to write off as a

Vance is easy to write off as a

Vance is easy to write off as a charismalless but scratch even

charismalless but scratch even

charismalless but scratch even one inch under the surface. Peel back

one inch under the surface. Peel back

one inch under the surface. Peel back the beard and you'll find something far

the beard and you'll find something far

the beard and you'll find something far worse. His batshit views and his bare

worse. His batshit views and his bare

worse. His batshit views and his bare face. Oh, and one last thing.

face. Oh, and one last thing.

face. Oh, and one last thing. Jamie Vance also stuck his dick in

Jamie Vance also stuck his dick in

Jamie Vance also stuck his dick in between the cushions of a sofa and

between the cushions of a sofa and

between the cushions of a sofa and thrust himself back and forth until

thrust himself back and forth until

thrust himself back and forth until climax. And if I may quote the man

climax. And if I may quote the man

climax. And if I may quote the man himself, yeah, of course I was just

himself, yeah, of course I was just

himself, yeah, of course I was just trolling by saying that, but that

trolling by saying that, but that

trolling by saying that, but that doesn't mean that what I said was in any

doesn't mean that what I said was in any

doesn't mean that what I said was in any way untrue.

way untrue.

way untrue. And now this.

And now this.

And now this. >> And now, Kelly Clarkson does not like

>> And now, Kelly Clarkson does not like

>> And now, Kelly Clarkson does not like horror movies.

horror movies.

horror movies. >> Well, let's talk about the new movie.

>> Well, let's talk about the new movie.

>> Well, let's talk about the new movie. It's Maxine. So, what's it about? It's

It's Maxine. So, what's it about? It's

It's Maxine. So, what's it about? It's scary, right?

scary, right?

scary, right? >> It's a horror. Yeah, it's horror. Are

>> It's a horror. Yeah, it's horror. Are

>> It's a horror. Yeah, it's horror. Are you into horror?

you into horror?

you into horror? >> No.

>> No.

>> No. >> Me neither. I have to be completely

>> Me neither. I have to be completely

>> Me neither. I have to be completely honest with people on my couch when they

honest with people on my couch when they

honest with people on my couch when they say they're in a horror film and I'll be

say they're in a horror film and I'll be

say they're in a horror film and I'll be like I never watch I never watch your

like I never watch I never watch your

like I never watch I never watch your face.

face.

face. >> Horror movies like I will pee my pants.

>> Horror movies like I will pee my pants.

>> Horror movies like I will pee my pants. How are you with horror films usually? I

How are you with horror films usually? I

How are you with horror films usually? I don't watch them.

don't watch them.

don't watch them. >> Do you usually like watching them?

>> Do you usually like watching them?

>> Do you usually like watching them? >> I no I don't. My first one really that I

>> I no I don't. My first one really that I

>> I no I don't. My first one really that I watched was Get Out and that's when I

watched was Get Out and that's when I

watched was Get Out and that's when I was like

was like

was like >> I never went on a water bed because of

>> I never went on a water bed because of

>> I never went on a water bed because of Freddy Krueger. Johnny Depp was always

Freddy Krueger. Johnny Depp was always

Freddy Krueger. Johnny Depp was always gonna the water bed scene and Freddy

gonna the water bed scene and Freddy

gonna the water bed scene and Freddy Krueger. It's always in my mind. Freddy

Krueger. It's always in my mind. Freddy

Krueger. It's always in my mind. Freddy Krueger was the scariest thing I ever

Krueger was the scariest thing I ever

Krueger was the scariest thing I ever saw. Freddy Krueger was my guy.

saw. Freddy Krueger was my guy.

saw. Freddy Krueger was my guy. >> Oh my god, we're so different. I don't

>> Oh my god, we're so different. I don't

>> Oh my god, we're so different. I don't watch horror. No thanks. I don't do

watch horror. No thanks. I don't do

watch horror. No thanks. I don't do scary.

scary.

scary. >> I don't watch them. I don't watch

>> I don't watch them. I don't watch

>> I don't watch them. I don't watch horror. I'm like, peace out. You do like

horror. I'm like, peace out. You do like

horror. I'm like, peace out. You do like horror. Do you?

horror. Do you?

horror. Do you? >> Oh, I love horror.

>> Oh, I love horror.

>> Oh, I love horror. >> Oh, me. No. You know.

>> Oh, me. No. You know.

>> Oh, me. No. You know. >> No.

>> No.

>> No. >> Kelly, why?

>> Kelly, why?

>> Kelly, why? >> It's scary. You know what? I saw This is

>> It's scary. You know what? I saw This is

>> It's scary. You know what? I saw This is random, but I saw something in my

random, but I saw something in my

random, but I saw something in my childhood and it was actually a church

childhood and it was actually a church

childhood and it was actually a church and it was this demon and it was on top

and it was this demon and it was on top

and it was this demon and it was on top of this person. They were frozen and I

of this person. They were frozen and I

of this person. They were frozen and I was like, "Oh my god, I don't want to go

was like, "Oh my god, I don't want to go

was like, "Oh my god, I don't want to go to hell or see a demon ever in my life."

to hell or see a demon ever in my life."

to hell or see a demon ever in my life." And it and it ruined me. I don't watch

And it and it ruined me. I don't watch

And it and it ruined me. I don't watch anything scary.

anything scary.

anything scary. >> It was church.

That's our show. Thanks so much for

That's our show. Thanks so much for

That's our show. Thanks so much for watching. We'll see you next week. Good

watching. We'll see you next week. Good

watching. We'll see you next week. Good night.