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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:27,460 --> 00:01:29,130 ( CLEARS THROAT ) 2 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:33,140 Continuing today's hearing on future VA funding... 3 00:01:33,130 --> 00:01:35,840 the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs... 4 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,670 is called back to order. 5 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,270 [CHAIRMAN] We'll hear from our next witness. 6 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:41,890 Will you please stand and raise your right hand? 7 00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:49,520 My apologies. 8 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,690 Please raise your right hand. 9 00:01:51,690 --> 00:01:53,900 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give... 10 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:55,860 this committee will be the truth, the whole truth... 11 00:01:55,860 --> 00:01:58,820 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 12 00:01:58,820 --> 00:01:59,650 I do. 13 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:01,000 Please state your name. 14 00:02:00,990 --> 00:02:05,410 Private First Class Adam Green, United States Army, retired. 15 00:02:05,410 --> 00:02:09,040 Mr. Green, I understand you've prepared a statement? 16 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,750 I have, sir. 17 00:02:09,750 --> 00:02:13,500 You may enter it into the record at this time. 18 00:02:23,390 --> 00:02:29,350 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee... 19 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:32,600 I want to thank you for the opportunity... 20 00:02:32,610 --> 00:02:34,320 to speak with you today. 21 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,660 I served in the military f-- 22 00:02:40,610 --> 00:02:44,570 l'm sorry, if I could just-- 23 00:02:44,580 --> 00:02:47,670 Sure, go ahead. 24 00:02:47,660 --> 00:02:49,370 Thank you, sir. 25 00:02:55,130 --> 00:02:57,880 I've always liked numbers. 26 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,340 Whenever I have a hard time wrapping my head around... 27 00:03:00,340 --> 00:03:05,220 something, I find that numbers make things clearer for me. 28 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:08,640 They help me understand decisions that are made... 29 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:13,440 and the impacts of those decisions. 30 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:14,940 So, if it's all right... 31 00:03:14,940 --> 00:03:19,980 l'd like the start with the number 1.4 million. 32 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:21,500 That's the number of men and women... 33 00:03:21,490 --> 00:03:26,110 who are currently serving in our military. 34 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,880 555... 35 00:03:27,870 --> 00:03:30,910 that's how many days passed before we invaded one country... 36 00:03:30,910 --> 00:03:34,920 after having been attacked by another. 37 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,420 19... is how old I was when I enlisted. 38 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:43,420 Three is the number of hours that passed from the time... 39 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:46,270 I arrived in Iraq to the time our transport... 40 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:48,090 was destroyed by an l.E.D. 41 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:50,900 And then there's six. 42 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:55,640 That's the number of inches the piece of shrapnel was... 43 00:03:55,650 --> 00:03:58,530 that severed my spinal cord. 44 00:04:02,530 --> 00:04:07,280 The only problems with numbers is they can be impersonal. 45 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,240 A decision you made had a life-changing impact on me... 46 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:14,670 and a lot of soldiers like me. 47 00:04:14,670 --> 00:04:16,380 Now, I'm not a military expert. 48 00:04:16,380 --> 00:04:20,760 I don't know a whole lot about geopolitical affairs. 49 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,640 L'm just an ordinary American. 50 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:24,510 And I understand that you've asked me here... 51 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:26,930 because you all have some questions for me, 52 00:04:26,930 --> 00:04:34,470 but if it's all right, l'd like to ask all of you a question. 53 00:04:40,530 --> 00:04:43,410 How the hell did this happen? 54 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:47,000 [BUSH] My fellow citizens, at this hour... 55 00:04:46,990 --> 00:04:49,950 American and coalition forces are in the early stages... 56 00:04:49,950 --> 00:04:53,620 of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free... 57 00:04:53,620 --> 00:04:57,500 its people and to defend the world from grave danger. 58 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:00,460 [BLITZER] The start of the campaign called Shock and Awe. 59 00:05:00,460 --> 00:05:01,420 [BROKAVI/] Shock and Awe. 60 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:03,130 [RATHER] Shock and Awe.N[MAN] Shock and Awe, indeed. 61 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:05,050 [REPORTER #1] Air raid sirens are going off in Baghdad-- 62 00:05:05,050 --> 00:05:06,800 [REPORTER #2] The massive military operation... 63 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,550 to topple Saddam Hussein is now in effect. 64 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:10,260 [REPORTER #3] Firing 600 Cruise missiles... 65 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:12,220 and every type of war plane in the American arsenal. 66 00:05:12,220 --> 00:05:14,560 [BROKA W] A fearsome display of American military might. 67 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,180 [REPORTER #4] The scale of this attack... 68 00:05:16,190 --> 00:05:18,320 is considerably higher than anything we 've seen before. 69 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:20,690 [REPORTER #5] We 're taking out who/e buildings... 70 00:05:20,690 --> 00:05:21,860 with these Cruise missiles. 71 00:05:21,860 --> 00:05:23,520 [RATHER] U. S. war planes unleashed... 72 00:05:23,530 --> 00:05:25,740 to promise massive bombardment of Baghdad. 73 00:05:25,740 --> 00:05:27,910 [BLITZER] 3,000 Tomahawk Cruise missiles... 74 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:31,000 satellite-guided precision bombs, laser-guided bombs. 75 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:32,870 [REPORTER #6] I think the citizens of Baghdad know... 76 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:35,740 exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe. 77 00:05:35,750 --> 00:05:37,710 [REPORTER #7] Just over the Kuwait-Iraq border... 78 00:05:37,710 --> 00:05:40,880 we watched as columns of troops moved into the country. 79 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,470 [RATHER] They're well on their way to Baghdad. 80 00:05:42,460 --> 00:05:43,590 They have met resistance. 81 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:45,590 [WOMAN] We can't leave the television... 82 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:49,800 every tank, every he/icopter-- is that my son? 83 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,180 [REPORTER #8] Now Baghdad is within striking distance... 84 00:05:53,180 --> 00:05:54,640 just a few short miles away... 85 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,770 as U. S. troops make their final push forward. 86 00:05:57,770 --> 00:05:59,730 We want to slaughter them all... 87 00:05:59,730 --> 00:06:02,690 those invaders, their tombs will be here in Iraq. 88 00:06:02,690 --> 00:06:05,070 [REPORTER #9] If Saddam HusseinNis alive, he is quote... 89 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:08,570 "Not in control of his military and of his government." 90 00:06:08,570 --> 00:06:11,950 [BUSH] These are opening stagesNof what will be a broad... 91 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:12,860 and concerted campaign. 92 00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:17,130 Could be longer and more difficult than some predict. 93 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,370 And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable... 94 00:06:19,370 --> 00:06:23,580 and free country will require our sustained commitment. 95 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:28,310 And you can know that our forces will be coming home... 96 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:31,590 as soon as their work is done. 97 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:37,480 K . eep movmg! Keep moving! Let's g0! 98 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:40,930 Where are they taking us? Shut up. Head down. 99 00:06:40,940 --> 00:06:43,150 Keep your mouth shut or I'll blow your fucking head off. 100 00:06:43,150 --> 00:06:45,490 All right, all right. Are you a soldier? 101 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,190 Journalist. Who do you work for? 102 00:06:47,190 --> 00:06:49,480 Knight Ridder. Never heard of it. 103 00:06:49,490 --> 00:06:51,960 You should read more. 104 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:57,210 What is your name? 105 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,620 Jonathan Landay. 106 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:04,680 Goodbye, Jonathan Landay. 107 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,890 (TRIGGER CLICKS) 108 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:11,420 Exercise complete. 109 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:15,020 What you have just engaged in is called The Gray Man Exercise. 110 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:16,930 And what you have just witnessed... 111 00:07:16,970 --> 00:07:20,350 is a colossal failure of that exercise. 112 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:22,430 If a journalist is captured... ( PHONE RINGING ) 113 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,600 terrorists may keep you alive... 114 00:07:23,650 --> 00:07:27,620 in hopes of getting information or exchanging you for a ransom. 115 00:07:27,610 --> 00:07:31,190 But if you give them a reason to kill you, they will. 116 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,660 The purpose of this exercise is to teach you... 117 00:07:33,660 --> 00:07:36,960 how to avoid drawing the attention of your captors. 118 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:38,490 Hence the name, Gray Man. 119 00:07:38,490 --> 00:07:39,280 Can you untie me? 120 00:07:39,290 --> 00:07:41,250 This could save your life one day, you understand? 121 00:07:41,250 --> 00:07:43,800 I do, l've been in 11 war zones, l've been shot at... 122 00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:46,790 l've been held captive, I take this very seriously. 123 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:50,920 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job. 124 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,920 And I'm fairly certain that none of this training... 125 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:55,020 is going to be very useful... 126 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:58,340 when I'm mopping the floor at Staples. 127 00:08:05,690 --> 00:08:07,190 [REPORTER] Both of the twin towers... 128 00:08:07,190 --> 00:08:09,980 the World Trade Center in New York's lower Manhattan... 129 00:08:09,980 --> 00:08:13,490 have been struck by planes this morning within 20 minutes. 130 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:15,530 First, it was the North Tower that was struck... 131 00:08:15,530 --> 00:08:18,910 with a gaping hole left in two sides of that building. 132 00:08:18,910 --> 00:08:19,620 Good God. 133 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:21,530 20 minutes later, the second building... 134 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:24,710 the second tower in that World Trade Center comp/ex-- 135 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:26,550 I think we should keep Elizabeth in school. 136 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:28,420 Yeah, no, I think that's a good idea. 137 00:08:28,420 --> 00:08:29,290 Why freak her out, huh? 138 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:33,350 And I'll call Ali and Jennifer as soon as the phones open up. 139 00:08:33,340 --> 00:08:35,010 I love you. I love you. 140 00:08:35,010 --> 00:08:35,630 Okay. 141 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,140 [REPORTER] We should tell you that... 142 00:08:37,140 --> 00:08:38,650 we have gotten calls from people... 143 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,180 who live and work around the Pentagon who have told us... 144 00:08:41,180 --> 00:08:42,640 that they have seen something... 145 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,520 that they have described as an explosion. 146 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,900 This is information we have not been able to confirm. 147 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,220 Get up. 148 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:30,160 Sorry, Dad. 149 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:32,560 Monday Night Football went long. 150 00:09:32,570 --> 00:09:35,540 Let's clean this place up. 151 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:43,410 [COMMENTA TOR] Trade Center here in New York... 152 00:09:43,410 --> 00:09:44,700 have been hit by airplanes. 153 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:48,160 In Washington, there is a large fire at the Pentagon. 154 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:49,590 The Pentagon has been evacuated. 155 00:09:49,580 --> 00:09:52,880 And there is, you can see, perhaps, the second tower... 156 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,590 the front tower, the top portion of which is collapsing. 157 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:59,050 Good Lord. 158 00:09:59,050 --> 00:10:04,640 Lot of people going to need a drink tonight. 159 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,470 Soldiers drink free. 160 00:10:09,270 --> 00:10:12,100 [REPORTER] There are no words. 161 00:10:12,110 --> 00:10:16,030 A/I federal office buildings now... 162 00:10:16,030 --> 00:10:19,120 all federal office buildings in Washington, D. C. 163 00:10:19,110 --> 00:10:21,990 are being evacuated as we speak to you now. 164 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:25,070 We are in the middle of an extraordinary catastrophe. 165 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,090 The most important things to tell you if you just joined... 166 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,160 in is that what has all the makings of an extraordinarily.. 167 00:10:31,170 --> 00:10:35,470 we/I-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York 168 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:36,710 has taken place this morning. 169 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:38,460 The Trade Centers here in New York... 170 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:41,480 the two World Trade Center towers have collapsed... 171 00:10:41,470 --> 00:10:45,430 after being hit by planes. 172 00:10:47,310 --> 00:10:51,270 Yeah, this is John Walcott from Knight Ridder. 173 00:10:51,270 --> 00:10:51,940 Is he there? 174 00:10:51,940 --> 00:10:57,070 Yeah, okay, well, tell him l'll try him back later. 175 00:10:57,070 --> 00:10:58,320 Thank you. 176 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,570 I just spoke with my wife. 177 00:10:59,570 --> 00:11:02,450 She and the kids are afraid to leave the house. 178 00:11:02,450 --> 00:11:04,700 What are they doing over there? 179 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:06,490 They're watching the White House. 180 00:11:06,490 --> 00:11:08,330 To see if it gets hit? 181 00:11:08,330 --> 00:11:08,830 Yes. 182 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:11,160 Oh, Jesus. All right, go home to your family. 183 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:15,220 And tell your colleagues that maybe they want to stay away... 184 00:11:15,210 --> 00:11:16,460 from the windows, okay? 185 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:18,670 Thanks, John. Yeah. 186 00:11:18,670 --> 00:11:22,670 Okay. All right. Okay. 187 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:26,940 Their working thesis is that this is overseas terrorism... 188 00:11:26,930 --> 00:11:27,800 not domestic. 189 00:11:27,810 --> 00:11:30,320 Attention will quickly turn to the bin Laden group... 190 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:31,680 because it has long tentacles. 191 00:11:31,690 --> 00:11:34,820 There are very few others that could have pulled this off. 192 00:11:34,810 --> 00:11:36,020 Are we sending somebody to New York? 193 00:11:36,020 --> 00:11:39,320 Ken Moore at Suvu was already up there covering Wall Street. 194 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,940 What's going on over at State? 195 00:11:40,950 --> 00:11:41,870 Powell's in Peru. 196 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:43,780 They're working on getting him home as soon as possible. 197 00:11:43,780 --> 00:11:46,950 All right, what we need to do is track the President. 198 00:11:46,950 --> 00:11:49,580 Track his top people and find out... 199 00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:51,330 who's responsible for all this. 200 00:11:51,330 --> 00:11:53,870 We need as many sources at as many agencies... 201 00:11:53,870 --> 00:11:57,290 to go on the record and tell us all what we know has to be true. 202 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:01,310 Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda! lt's Al Qaeda. 203 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:03,630 It's definitely Al Qaeda. 204 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:06,100 What the hell are you wearing? 205 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:08,100 Well, the wifey wanted to evacuate... 206 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:12,690 but she locked the cat and the keys in the cars. 207 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:14,360 So, I biked in. 208 00:12:14,350 --> 00:12:18,480 We need to know how they pulled this off. 209 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,980 Anybody needs to go home to their family... 210 00:12:20,990 --> 00:12:22,830 feel free to do so. 211 00:12:22,820 --> 00:12:25,190 Just came from the family. 212 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,620 Let's get to work. 213 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,070 It's Walcott. 214 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,670 Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life... 215 00:12:32,660 --> 00:12:37,540 our very freedom, came under attack in a series... 216 00:12:37,540 --> 00:12:40,840 of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. 217 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Adam, hand me the Jameson, please. 218 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,090 Yes, sir. Here you go. 219 00:12:45,090 --> 00:12:47,050 Thank you, son. 220 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,760 It's on the house, gentlemen. 221 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,260 Thanks. 222 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:53,350 Dad's saying we're staying open as late as they want. 223 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:55,520 [MRS. GREEN] They must be scared. 224 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,690 [ADAM] They're Rangers. They're boys. 225 00:12:58,690 --> 00:13:02,860 Our military is powerful and it's prepared. 226 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:04,610 The search is underway for those... 227 00:13:04,610 --> 00:13:05,900 who are behind these evil acts. 228 00:13:05,950 --> 00:13:08,540 I 've directed the full resources of our intelligence. 229 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:12,410 and law enforcement communities to find those responsible... 230 00:13:12,410 --> 00:13:16,250 and to bring them to justice. 231 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:21,250 [JENNINGS] It's been 33 hours since the terrible... 232 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:23,550 and unprecedented attack on the United States. 233 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:26,800 There is, as we've said, an enormous search and rescue... 234 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,550 operation, and enormous and intense criminal investigation. 235 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,690 And we're just beginning to understand... 236 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:35,770 the extents of the catastrophe. 237 00:13:35,770 --> 00:13:37,310 [OFFICIAL] lfeel like I haven't slept in a month. 238 00:13:37,310 --> 00:13:39,690 It's going to be a bunch of zombies running this town. 239 00:13:39,690 --> 00:13:41,770 What do you know about the preliminary plans... 240 00:13:41,770 --> 00:13:42,650 to go after bin Laden? 241 00:13:42,650 --> 00:13:44,320 I don't have anything to give you on that yet. 242 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,650 Ok, well, how long before we're on the ground in Afghanistan... 243 00:13:46,650 --> 00:13:48,280 and how long do they project we'll be there? 244 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,070 Look, I'm trying to get answers to the same questions you are. 245 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,670 What I can say is, most of the talk this morning... 246 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:58,200 hasn't been about Afghanistan. 247 00:13:58,210 --> 00:14:00,880 Well, what's it been about? 248 00:14:02,250 --> 00:14:02,790 Iraq? 249 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,510 I got it from a source at State who got it from the Pentagon. 250 00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:07,430 In connection with the attacks? 251 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:09,890 Crackpot theories from people who don't know... 252 00:14:09,890 --> 00:14:11,980 what the hell they're talking about 253 00:14:11,970 --> 00:14:13,590 It was Rumsfeld. 254 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,110 Really? 255 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:16,680 Yeah, apparently, there's a lot of people over at Defense... 256 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:18,810 that think this had to be State-sponsored. 257 00:14:18,810 --> 00:14:22,480 I mean, notjust Rumsfeld, there's also that smug... 258 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,270 son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board... 259 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,490 the Prince of Darkness? 260 00:14:27,490 --> 00:14:29,200 Richard Perle. Right. Perle. 261 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,460 And that neo-con over at the Project... 262 00:14:31,450 --> 00:14:33,990 for the New American whatever the fuck... 263 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:35,410 New American Century, Bill Kristol. 264 00:14:35,410 --> 00:14:36,830 That giant butthole, Bill Kristol. 265 00:14:36,830 --> 00:14:41,290 And he's got to be creaming his little jammies over this. 266 00:14:41,290 --> 00:14:42,330 Yeah, these think-tank boys... 267 00:14:42,330 --> 00:14:44,710 have been trying to push out Saddam Hussein since '97. 268 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:48,800 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick... 269 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,090 a Western-style of democracy in the Middle East... 270 00:14:51,090 --> 00:14:53,760 it's going to magically proliferate... 271 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,800 and wind up protecting Israel. 272 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:57,860 You got to give them credit for creative thinking. 273 00:14:57,850 --> 00:14:59,350 It's Ivory Tower crap. 274 00:14:59,350 --> 00:15:02,440 I mean, in what world do they think that Osama bin Laden... 275 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,610 and Saddam Hussein hatched this thing up together? 276 00:15:05,610 --> 00:15:07,860 Let's find out if these dickweeds... 277 00:15:07,860 --> 00:15:10,150 are serious about Iraq, okay? 278 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:12,820 Look, l'm not saying there's a link to Iraq... 279 00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:13,650 and neither is my boss. 280 00:15:13,660 --> 00:15:15,830 This is just something we're hearing. 281 00:15:15,830 --> 00:15:16,540 From whom? 282 00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:19,380 Who told me or where is it coming from? 283 00:15:19,370 --> 00:15:20,790 Take your pick. 284 00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:21,910 Someone at the Pentagon. 285 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,090 In the Vice President's office? 286 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,960 It's just theories. 287 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,460 Are there any Senators talking to anyone... 288 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:29,590 saying anything different? 289 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:30,670 I know Powell's objected... 290 00:15:30,670 --> 00:15:34,800 to going into anywhere other than Afghanistan. 291 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,060 (DRAMA TIC MUSIC PLAYING) 292 00:16:06,750 --> 00:16:07,290 Go away. 293 00:16:07,290 --> 00:16:08,380 One question and l'm gone. 294 00:16:08,380 --> 00:16:10,090 L'm not talking to you on the record. 295 00:16:10,090 --> 00:16:14,800 Anonymous source, intelligence community. 296 00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:16,940 You can't use my name. 297 00:16:16,930 --> 00:16:19,300 Never have, never will. 298 00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:20,310 Or my aQeHCY- 299 00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:22,820 Pinky swear. 300 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:26,520 One question. 301 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,730 Are you looking into an Iraqi connection? 302 00:16:31,780 --> 00:16:34,540 Who's the you in that question? 303 00:16:34,530 --> 00:16:36,320 Are we in the United States? 304 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,070 There are some people. 305 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,460 Are we in my agency? 306 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:41,490 Not that I'm aware of. 307 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:44,420 Am I, personally? 308 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:45,920 No way. 309 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Okay, the second part to the question. 310 00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:49,880 No. 311 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Thank you. 312 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,220 So, no one you work with at the Library of Congress has ever... 313 00:16:55,220 --> 00:16:57,440 found a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda? 314 00:16:57,430 --> 00:17:00,600 No one I work with would expect to find a link. 315 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,600 So, as far as you know... 316 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,430 there's nothing substantial to tie Iraq to bin Laden? 317 00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:04,850 There's nothing even circumstantial. 318 00:17:04,850 --> 00:17:06,810 To lump together a secular leader like Saddam... 319 00:17:06,810 --> 00:17:10,190 with an Islamic extremist like bin Laden is simply... 320 00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:13,520 to have no understanding of the Muslim world. 321 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,080 It's a bit timid. 322 00:17:18,070 --> 00:17:20,740 No one's actually come out and said anything publicly yet. 323 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:22,990 Maybe it's just backroom speculation. 324 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,130 Pretty dangerous speculation. 325 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:26,200 Can't we hit it harder than this? 326 00:17:26,210 --> 00:17:27,970 The attacks were just 10 days ago. 327 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,540 Everyone's trying to play catch-up. 328 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:31,080 Got to press our reliables. 329 00:17:31,090 --> 00:17:32,800 L'll reach out to The Italian Lady. 330 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,010 You think you can get Loose Nukes to go on the record? 331 00:17:35,010 --> 00:17:37,390 I'm lucky to get her on deep background. 332 00:17:37,380 --> 00:17:41,140 Well, double down on the Charm Offensive. 333 00:17:41,140 --> 00:17:43,430 Buongiorno, this is Warren Strobel. 334 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:46,810 I was looking to get your advice on a critical scheduling matter. 335 00:17:46,810 --> 00:17:50,230 If you could contact me at your earliest possible convenience... 336 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:53,650 I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. 337 00:17:53,650 --> 00:17:54,770 [LOOSE NUKES]Hello. 338 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:55,830 Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan. 339 00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:57,570 [LOOSE NUKES] I don 't have anything for you. 340 00:17:57,570 --> 00:18:00,910 No, I know, I know, but l'm doing a story... 341 00:18:00,910 --> 00:18:02,870 on the administration's seeming interest in Iraq. 342 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:05,160 [LOOSE NUKES] Jonathan, we're not going to talk about this. 343 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,870 No, I know, I know l'm not talking about this... 344 00:18:07,870 --> 00:18:12,040 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication? 345 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,170 [LOOSE NUKES] Bye, Jonathan. 346 00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:16,890 What'd she say? 347 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,800 She sends her love. 348 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,220 [ANNOUNCER] Across the nation... 349 00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:21,760 flags have been flying off the shelves. 350 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,680 A wave of patriotism has been spreading across America. 351 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,140 At times like this, it's what we do in America. 352 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:33,450 We the People pull together. 353 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,520 They had a discussion in school today... 354 00:18:35,530 --> 00:18:38,330 about why America is so great, right? 355 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,990 Yeah, and what'd you say? 356 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:41,400 It's a free country. 357 00:18:41,410 --> 00:18:43,000 That's a great answer. 358 00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:44,660 That's Mama's boy. 359 00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:46,240 May I be done now? 360 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:48,210 Not until I get a big hug. 361 00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:51,670 Okay, after your mom gets a hug. 362 00:18:51,670 --> 00:18:53,930 Oh, whoa! 363 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Proud of you, munchie. 364 00:18:57,550 --> 00:18:59,960 Love you. 365 00:19:00,550 --> 00:19:05,300 They're really pushing this nationalism thing at school. 366 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:06,230 What do you expect? 367 00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:08,440 Of course, there's going to be patriotism now. 368 00:19:08,430 --> 00:19:12,770 Oh, you want to call it patriotism? 369 00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:13,600 Fine. 370 00:19:13,650 --> 00:19:14,990 It smells a lot like nationalism to me. 371 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:20,780 That's how it started in Yugoslavia before the war. 372 00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:23,530 Tore my country apart. 373 00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:49,050 You want some help? 374 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:52,400 No, l'm okay, thank you. 375 00:19:53,850 --> 00:19:55,940 Okay, have a good night. 376 00:19:55,940 --> 00:19:57,480 Good night. 377 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,700 How real is the Iraqi conversation? 378 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:09,120 There's an argument taking place. 379 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,160 Yeah? Wh0's winning it? 380 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,910 I couldn't say. 381 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,260 Look, my boss is gonna send me to Afghanistan, and all I want.. 382 00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:20,630 To know is should he be buying a roundtrip ticket... 383 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:26,470 or is Afghanistan just a layover on the way to Baghdad? 384 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,970 I can't tell you anything. 385 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:34,070 [MYLROIE] I believe major acts of terrorism... 386 00:20:34,060 --> 00:20:36,980 against the U. S. are state-sponsored. 387 00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:40,110 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind... 388 00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:44,110 the most massive terrorist assault in human history... 389 00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:44,860 "which state ?" 390 00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:50,410 I think Iraq is the state that most immediately comes to mind. 391 00:20:50,410 --> 00:20:53,290 This is an idea which in... ( PHONE RINGING ) 392 00:20:53,290 --> 00:20:55,660 is gaining increased credibility. 393 00:20:55,670 --> 00:20:57,130 Knight Ridder, it's Strobel. 394 00:20:57,130 --> 00:20:58,800 [THE ITALIAN LADY] Jim Woolsey is going to Europe... 395 00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:00,630 to try to find a /ink between Saddam... 396 00:21:00,630 --> 00:21:04,460 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. 397 00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:05,880 ls he freelancing? 398 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,970 [THE ITALIAN LADY] He was sent on an official government jet. 399 00:21:08,970 --> 00:21:10,470 Jesus, who sent him? 400 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:13,850 [THE ITALIAN LADY] The deputy defense secretary. 401 00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:15,520 Can you meet for coffee? 402 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,270 [THE ITALIAN LADY] I'l/ be in touch. 403 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,900 Hi, this is Warren Strobel with Knight Ridder. 404 00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:21,940 I'm working on a story... 405 00:21:21,940 --> 00:21:24,320 about former CIA director James Woolsey traveling to Europe. 406 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,610 Do you know anything about that? 407 00:21:25,610 --> 00:21:28,700 [DIPLOMA T] I didn't have anything to do with that. 408 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:30,740 But you're aware that such a trip has taken place? 409 00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:34,790 [DIPLOMA T] I can 't be your only source on this. 410 00:21:34,790 --> 00:21:37,830 All right, stay in touch. 411 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,790 Hey, John. 412 00:21:40,790 --> 00:21:42,710 Woolsey was sent to Europe to look for evidence... 413 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:45,550 linking Saddam to the World Trade Center bombing in '93. 414 00:21:45,550 --> 00:21:49,680 W0uldn't be a fool's errand if they didn't send a fool. 415 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,260 This came from The Italian Lady? 416 00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:52,600 And a diplomat who can confirm... 417 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,720 the trip was arranged by Wolfowitz. 418 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,350 What the hell is going on over at Defense? 419 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:57,350 Question is, are they trying to figure out... 420 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:58,850 if there's any truth to their theory... 421 00:21:58,850 --> 00:22:01,900 or are they already convinced their theory is true? 422 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:03,770 You're sure about this Woolsey trip? 423 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:06,200 Positive. You have a third source? 424 00:22:06,190 --> 00:22:07,440 Yeah. Who? 425 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:09,750 Jim Woolsey. 426 00:22:20,830 --> 00:22:25,840 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip? 427 00:22:27,670 --> 00:22:29,210 I figured you'd be calling... 428 00:22:29,220 --> 00:22:32,390 I just didn't think it would be this soon. 429 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:37,270 How real is the chatter about Iraq? 430 00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:37,730 Very. 431 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:42,110 And it's diverting our attention from the people who attacked us. 432 00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:46,160 How soon before Iraq becomes the focus? 433 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,320 We need to blow something up. 434 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,740 Not enough targets in Afghanistan. 435 00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:52,860 What about bin Laden? 436 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:53,830 You take out bin Laden... 437 00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:57,590 interest in the war goes right down the shitter. 438 00:22:57,830 --> 00:23:01,500 [REPORTER] A joint offensive in its sixth day in Tora Bora... 439 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,080 bin Laden 's suspected hideout... 440 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:05,760 but still no signs of the world's most wanted man. 441 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:10,210 U. S. B-52s pounding AI Qaeda positions from the air... 442 00:23:10,220 --> 00:23:11,680 while anti-Taliban tanks... 443 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,390 and troops meet strong resistance... 444 00:23:13,390 --> 00:23:15,810 cave to cave, from Al Qaeda fighters. 445 00:23:15,810 --> 00:23:17,940 With yet more conflicting reports... 446 00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:22,100 on bin Laden's whereabouts. 447 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:22,980 What you got there... 448 00:23:22,980 --> 00:23:25,520 is that your State of the Union piece for tomorrow? 449 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,940 Yup. You got a lunch today? 450 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:29,320 Not with you. 451 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,110 I got a one-on-one with Looney Tunes over at State. 452 00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:33,030 There's a dry hole. 453 00:23:33,030 --> 00:23:34,660 Yeah, well, I figured if I just let him ramble on... 454 00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:37,490 he'll accidentally stumble into something newsworthy. 455 00:23:37,490 --> 00:23:38,450 Yeah, well, give my best. 456 00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:40,660 I will. Hot off the presses, Beryl. 457 00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:41,950 Did you use punctuation this time? 458 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,510 I even threw in a few semicolons just for you. 459 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:47,290 I bet you're the pride of the University of Missouri. 460 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:51,520 Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan... 461 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:55,510 now occupy cells at Guantanamo Bay. 462 00:23:57,260 --> 00:24:00,510 And terrorist leaders who urged followers to sacrifice... 463 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,610 their lives are running' for their own. 464 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,270 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own... 465 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,330 security is to ensure freedom for other countries... 466 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,410 looking to embrace democracy as a way of life. 467 00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:19,830 Now, we-- excuse me-- we understand that we can't... 468 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:21,410 be the policemen to the world... 469 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:24,540 but we feel we have a responsibility to... 470 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:25,830 Yeah, John Walcott. 471 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:27,620 [DIXIE] John! 472 00:24:27,630 --> 00:24:28,340 Dixie? 473 00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:29,680 [DIXIE] John, can you hear me? 474 00:24:29,670 --> 00:24:30,750 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you. 475 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,220 I got a call from one of our boys downrange today... 476 00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:35,230 asking me what the fuck's going on. 477 00:24:35,220 --> 00:24:36,930 Are you still in Afghanistan? 478 00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:38,010 Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan... 479 00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:39,550 but nobody knows what the mission is anymore. 480 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,320 How do you bomb a country back into the Stone Age... 481 00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:43,600 that's already in the middle of the goddamn Stone Age? 482 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,730 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror... 483 00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:51,360 from threatening America, or our friends and allies... 484 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:52,980 with weapons of mass destruction. 485 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:57,000 We believe that Afghanistan is ripe for freedom. 486 00:24:56,990 --> 00:25:00,450 Now, this is a country that has been struggling to free... 487 00:25:00,450 --> 00:25:03,450 itself from the repressive grip of the Taliban for years. 488 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:07,050 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets. 489 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,830 We may never get him in our crosshairs again. 490 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,430 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where? 491 00:25:12,460 --> 00:25:14,840 Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since... 492 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,340 September the 11 th, but we know their true nature. 493 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:22,690 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind... 494 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,430 of stability that comes with the rule of law. 495 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,240 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these... 496 00:25:29,230 --> 00:25:34,530 and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil... 497 00:25:34,530 --> 00:25:36,860 arming to threaten the peace of the world. 498 00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:37,950 You'll have to excuse me... 499 00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:41,820 Warren, but I have to prepare a briefing for Secretary Powell. 500 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:42,380 Sure. 501 00:25:42,370 --> 00:25:43,780 Anything else you need from me? 502 00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:44,590 No, no, thank you. 503 00:25:44,580 --> 00:25:47,370 I think you've given me more than enough to chew on. 504 00:25:47,370 --> 00:25:48,000 Excellent. 505 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,580 And you feel confident that Afghanistan... 506 00:25:49,580 --> 00:25:51,750 will accept a Western-style democracy? 507 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:52,420 Oh, absolutely. 508 00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:54,840 Just as confident as we are about Iraq. 509 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious. 510 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,260 Oh, no, no, no, that debate is over. 511 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:05,310 Saddam's got to go, the only question is how. 512 00:26:05,310 --> 00:26:06,680 Good talking to you, Warren. 513 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:09,280 Yeah, you, too, sir. 514 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,950 The president is going to invade Iraq. 515 00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:13,310 [WALCOTT] You got this from Looney Tunes? 516 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,450 Yeah, and confirmed by a diplomat who says he met... 517 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,610 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with... 518 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:22,070 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike lraq." 519 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,920 Do you think we can get enough to run the story? 520 00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:27,830 Unfortunately, I do. 521 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,590 So much for the ceasefire. 522 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,900 Yeah, well, really nice of us... 523 00:26:42,890 --> 00:26:46,760 to temporarily stop shooting at them, though. 524 00:26:56,940 --> 00:27:00,070 J' l've been bound up and wound up J' 525 00:27:00,070 --> 00:27:02,280 J' Could barely get a sound up J' 526 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,660 J' Been cheated mistreated J' 527 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:06,780 J' Don't even want to think of it J' 528 00:27:06,790 --> 00:27:08,090 What are you up to, Smucker? 529 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,120 You know, I tried to chat with your translator today. 530 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:13,050 Yeah, how'd that go? 531 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,590 Well, for a guy who gets paid to talk for a living... 532 00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:19,170 he was unusually quiet. 533 00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:21,380 He only talks to me. 534 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:25,090 Really? And what'd he tell you? 535 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:28,860 Dollar, l'll let you read all about it. 536 00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:32,480 Let me see it. 537 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,650 Bin Laden's gone, isn't he? 538 00:27:36,650 --> 00:27:39,820 They missed him, didn't they? 539 00:27:39,820 --> 00:27:45,410 He was here and they fucking missed him! 540 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:47,780 [REPORTER] A senior U. S. military official... 541 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:50,250 tells NBC News "Despite the crushing defeat... 542 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:51,710 "of Al Qaeda forces at Tora Bora... 543 00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:54,880 "it's believed now that Osama bin Laden has slipped... 544 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,890 "across the border into Pakistan, seeking refuge... 545 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,290 "in a lawless no man's land... 546 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:02,560 "ruled by renegade tribal warlords. " 547 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:03,800 Oh, it's official... 548 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,470 this is the saddest event l've ever attended. 549 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:09,100 I'm going back to my apartment, drink a bottle of wine... 550 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,470 and put my head in the oven. 551 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,480 Okay, but before you do that... 552 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,280 I really want you to meet the guy I was telling you about. 553 00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:16,650 Oh! He just walked in! 554 00:28:16,650 --> 00:28:18,650 Forget the wine, l'll kill myself now. 555 00:28:18,650 --> 00:28:23,650 No, not him... him. l'll introduce you. 556 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:24,710 Pam, please don't. 557 00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:27,200 Warren! Hey! Oh, hi. 558 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,910 Glad you could make it, come on over. 559 00:28:28,910 --> 00:28:32,040 Warren, this is a good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr. 560 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,540 Lisa, this is Warren Strobel, he's a journalist... 561 00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:37,080 and l'm gonna get another drink. 562 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,890 Hi, uh, Lisa? 563 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Yeah. Yeah, nice to meet you. 564 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,050 Hi. Uh... 565 00:28:44,380 --> 00:28:47,010 Did you ever make it into your apartment? 566 00:28:47,010 --> 00:28:51,760 Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, l'm sorry. 567 00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:56,450 Yeah, I made it in okay. Good. Good. 568 00:28:57,270 --> 00:28:59,350 So, you're a journalist? 569 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,910 Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder. 570 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,150 Oh, is that a magazine or a newspaper? 571 00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:09,490 It's actually a consortium of 31 newspapers, actually. 572 00:29:09,490 --> 00:29:11,240 Well, my stories go out to all of our newspapers... 573 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,540 and each one has the option to publish or not. 574 00:29:14,540 --> 00:29:18,620 Oh, okay. l've always wondered how that worked. 575 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:20,470 Yeah. 576 00:29:22,670 --> 00:29:26,550 Hey, I got married when I was 22. 577 00:29:26,550 --> 00:29:30,470 And we're only recently separated, so... 578 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:33,180 This is a little awkward for me. 579 00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:34,310 It's okay. 580 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:35,970 L'm a little out of practice. 581 00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:40,450 Why don't you start by asking me a question? 582 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,730 Sure, yeah. 583 00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:47,820 Are you a Republican or a Democrat? 584 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:49,950 Try again. 585 00:29:49,950 --> 00:29:53,530 Yeah, of course, she wants you to call her. 586 00:29:53,540 --> 00:29:54,420 She gave you her card. 587 00:29:54,410 --> 00:29:56,790 No, maybe she's just trying to gin up business. 588 00:29:56,790 --> 00:29:59,500 At a singles mixer on Valentine's Day? 589 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,460 What? So, call her? I should call her? 590 00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:03,340 What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle. 591 00:30:03,340 --> 00:30:05,920 There's nothing a woman in her 30s likes more... 592 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,090 than a guy who takes his time. 593 00:30:08,090 --> 00:30:09,340 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine. 594 00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:12,390 It's just that l'm getting a little tired... 595 00:30:12,390 --> 00:30:13,970 of picking up your paper every morning... 596 00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:16,470 and seeing that you're not running our stories. 597 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,530 I mean, last time I looked... 598 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,310 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right? 599 00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:25,270 The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper.. 600 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,580 If you're not going to run Knight Ridder stories. 601 00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:29,900 John, we've been through this already. 602 00:30:29,910 --> 00:30:31,160 Your stories don't fit... 603 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,960 in with what we're doing over here right now. 604 00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:36,330 D0n't fit? Don't fit with what? The truth? 605 00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:37,950 What's the matter, Arthur... 606 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,590 the truth doesn't sell papers anymore? 607 00:30:39,580 --> 00:30:41,670 [BROKA W] And today, for the first time... 608 00:30:41,670 --> 00:30:42,790 the administration provided... 609 00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:46,340 details for what it has always insisted was a connection... 610 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:49,260 between Saddam Hussein and AI Qaeda. 611 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:50,260 How strong is that case? 612 00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:52,340 [REPORTER] Iraqi president Saddam Hussein says... 613 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:55,310 he does not have any illegal weapons of mass destruction... 614 00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:59,190 and accused the United States of using weapons... 615 00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:01,240 as a pretext to start a war. 616 00:31:01,230 --> 00:31:05,560 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book? 617 00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:08,990 The movie was about 80% accurate and 20% bullshit... 618 00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:14,450 which I guess by Hollywood standards is an accomplishment. 619 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:17,450 What inspired you to write the book? 620 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:19,580 Being shot at by the North Vietnamese army. 621 00:31:19,580 --> 00:31:21,620 What was the biggest difference between experiencing... 622 00:31:21,670 --> 00:31:26,470 the Battle of la Drang in person versus watching it in a theater? 623 00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:29,550 The popcorn in la Drang was saltier. 624 00:31:30,380 --> 00:31:31,090 Last question. 625 00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:33,180 Can you draw any comparisons between Vietnam... 626 00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:35,590 and what's happening today in Afghanistan? 627 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,690 It's very different, but I think it is appropriate... 628 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,850 that before we start dropping bombs, we think long and hard... 629 00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:46,440 about the greatest lesson we got from Vietnam. 630 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,150 Which is? 631 00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:51,940 When the government fucks up, the soldiers pay the price. 632 00:31:51,950 --> 00:31:54,920 To what do I owe this unexpected visit? 633 00:31:54,910 --> 00:31:57,240 Well, I was hoping I'd get an autograph... 634 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,660 from the world's most famous war correspondent. 635 00:31:59,660 --> 00:32:03,620 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story. 636 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:07,510 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either. 637 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,750 How do you like the job at State? 638 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,390 I love working for General Powell... 639 00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:13,340 and I hate working for Uncle Sam. 640 00:32:13,340 --> 00:32:14,840 You miss reporting? 641 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,430 After 42 years, I thought... 642 00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:17,640 I should take some time away from it. 643 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,310 S0, I went to work at the State Department on September 10th... 644 00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:23,640 and the next day the biggest story of my life broke. 645 00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:26,150 I'd say there's a little bit of a tug. 646 00:32:26,150 --> 00:32:30,870 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here. 647 00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:32,900 To make me envious? 648 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:34,780 To make you an offer. 649 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:38,570 [HANNITY] If he gets weapons of mass destruction, Jerry. 650 00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:40,540 What does that mean for the world? 651 00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:42,090 What does that mean for the Middle East? 652 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,790 Can you turn it down? l'm trying to watch the news. 653 00:32:44,790 --> 00:32:47,330 Stop calling it that. 654 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:49,260 Hey, son. 655 00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:56,170 Adam, what's the matter? 656 00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:59,440 I met with a recruiter. 657 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,360 [HANNITY] A lot of people are gonna die, Jerry. 658 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,770 You know once you sign up... 659 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:13,410 there's no changing your mind, right? 660 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,900 I know. 661 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:16,110 What do you know? You're just a kid. 662 00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:17,950 Whose country was attacked. 663 00:33:17,950 --> 00:33:20,820 Adam, I know you want to do what you think is right... 664 00:33:20,830 --> 00:33:22,750 but war is not a video game. 665 00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:25,010 You have no idea what you're getting into. 666 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,790 I know exactly what l'm getting into. 667 00:33:32,590 --> 00:33:33,750 Here. 668 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,390 Show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 669 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:40,690 Show me. 670 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,680 They're gonna send you halfway around the world to fight... 671 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,680 people you didn't even know existed a year ago. 672 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,240 If you know what you're getting into... 673 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:52,060 show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 674 00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:55,790 Did anyone ever shove a map in Dad's face... 675 00:33:55,780 --> 00:33:59,280 and ask him to find Vietnam? 676 00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:08,260 [CHENEY] We now know that Saddam has resumed... 677 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:10,330 his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. 678 00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:13,930 Among other sources, we 've gotten this from firsthand... 679 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,090 testimony from defectors. 680 00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:17,920 Many of us are convinced that Saddam Hussein... 681 00:34:17,930 --> 00:34:20,440 will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon. 682 00:34:20,430 --> 00:34:24,760 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein... 683 00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:26,400 now has weapons of mass destruction. 684 00:34:26,390 --> 00:34:29,430 They're dialing up the rhetoric on Iraq. 685 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,780 Let's see if we can nail them down, okay? 686 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,610 Twenty bucks, whoever gets the best quote. 687 00:34:36,610 --> 00:34:39,650 N0, no, no, you're such a child. 688 00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:40,750 You're such a pussy. 689 00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:41,780 I'm not taking your money. 690 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,280 You get all bent out of shape when you lose. 691 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,990 I don't care. l'm just the same when I win or lose. 692 00:34:44,990 --> 00:34:46,910 L'm not-- it's not a bet, all right, fine. 693 00:34:46,910 --> 00:34:49,410 Warren Strobel for Senator Biden, please. 694 00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:50,090 Son of a bitch. 695 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,920 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go... 696 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,710 "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay... 697 00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:55,670 "for at least five years." 698 00:34:55,670 --> 00:34:58,210 I got Michael O'Hanlon at Brookings saying... 699 00:34:58,220 --> 00:35:02,270 "You definitely cannot count on it being a cakewalk." 700 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,270 We gotta hit it harder than that. 701 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:06,640 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N... 702 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,140 that says, "There's widespread concern... 703 00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:11,020 "that this will destabilize the whole Middle East." 704 00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:13,440 Let me see what you have. 705 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,440 Well, wait, I got-- I got-- 706 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,190 Just give it to me, give, give, give. 707 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:18,320 Okay. 708 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,900 All right. 709 00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:24,450 Let's see here... all right. 710 00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:12,090 You guys are smart. 711 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,000 You know what's unfolding here. 712 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,500 Our readers need to know what we've learned. 713 00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:25,090 "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq... 714 00:36:25,090 --> 00:36:28,340 "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy... 715 00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:32,190 "to a nation that has never known it. In the worst case... 716 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:36,490 "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic... 717 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,270 "groups to break off into their own mini-states... 718 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,410 "trapping American combat forces in the middle... 719 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,200 "of a bloody civil war for decades." 720 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:50,370 Boss man's got balls. 721 00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:52,870 Yeah. 722 00:37:17,810 --> 00:37:26,530 Shit. 723 00:37:26,530 --> 00:37:27,950 Were those for me? 724 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:30,410 No. Yes. 725 00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:35,120 But I thought it might be a little, I don't know... 726 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,750 a little too soon to be giving each other gifts. 727 00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:40,170 It would've been all right. 728 00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:40,710 Okay. 729 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:42,960 Well, I think they landed on my car... 730 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,760 so if you want to grab them on the way to dinner... 731 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,970 maybe we can do that? 732 00:37:47,970 --> 00:37:50,470 Great. Great. 733 00:37:52,180 --> 00:37:55,970 Okay, so what was the most embarrassing thing... 734 00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:58,320 you did to prepare for tonight? 735 00:38:00,730 --> 00:38:01,860 All right. 736 00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:04,320 I will admit, that to prepare for tonight... 737 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,610 I did kind of a cram session on Iraq... 738 00:38:06,610 --> 00:38:10,410 and the history of the Muslim world. 739 00:38:10,410 --> 00:38:11,570 Really? 740 00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:12,080 Yes. 741 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,710 Now I know that 1400 years ago, after the death of Muhammad... 742 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,290 Muslims fought over who was to be his rightful heir... 743 00:38:17,290 --> 00:38:19,460 and that caused a split into two factions... 744 00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:20,460 the Sunnis and the Shiites. 745 00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:21,710 And they've been at war ever since. 746 00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:23,790 Then, at the end of World War I, the British and the French... 747 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,100 arbitrarily divided the Arab world into countries... 748 00:38:27,090 --> 00:38:28,720 putting the Sunni majority in charge. 749 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:33,430 But the country that became Iraq is made up of only 20% Sunni. 750 00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:38,350 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules... 751 00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:39,680 the majority Shiite population... 752 00:38:39,690 --> 00:38:42,950 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq. 753 00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:46,190 But if Saddam Hussein were removed, it could possibly... 754 00:38:46,190 --> 00:38:49,190 reignite that 1400-year-old sectarian war. 755 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,750 Now, after reading your stories... 756 00:38:50,740 --> 00:38:54,320 I know that Iran is the top sponsor of terror, not Iraq. 757 00:38:54,330 --> 00:38:58,300 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist... 758 00:38:58,290 --> 00:39:00,040 who wants to replace Saddam Hussein. 759 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,500 That the neo-cons in the Bush Administration... 760 00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:03,500 are pushing for an invasion. 761 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:08,050 And you are quickly becoming my favorite writer. 762 00:39:08,050 --> 00:39:10,170 Wow. 763 00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:18,140 Um... I guess it's my turn. 764 00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:19,060 Give it to me. 765 00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:22,060 Okay, I will admit that-- 766 00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:25,060 This is a little embarrassing. 767 00:39:25,070 --> 00:39:30,750 I asked my ex-wife to watch my two sons tonight. 768 00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:31,900 Why is that embarrassing? 769 00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:34,330 Because a babysitter would expect me home... 770 00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:38,420 at the end of the evening and-- 771 00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:40,410 Should we get the check? 772 00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:44,120 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not! 773 00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:47,260 Actually yes, it is a matter of life and death! 774 00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:52,010 We're talking about going to fucking war! 775 00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:54,760 Hello? 776 00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:57,890 L'm guessing that was a no comment? 777 00:39:57,890 --> 00:40:00,390 What are you grinning about? 778 00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:01,430 What? l'm not grinning. 779 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,150 You're grinning. l'm not grinning. 780 00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:05,990 L'm not-- What have you got over there? 781 00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:07,520 Relax! Don't worry about it. 782 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:09,030 Oh my God, she could do my taxes. 783 00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:10,990 All right, relax. ( PHONE RINGING ) 784 00:40:10,990 --> 00:40:14,710 Strobel, Knight Ridder. Of course. 785 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,870 Okay. 786 00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:21,160 All right, I'll be right there. 787 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,210 Let's go, this could be something. 788 00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:29,670 So, how does this work? 789 00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:34,300 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking? 790 00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:36,340 Why don't you just begin... 791 00:40:36,350 --> 00:40:37,980 and we'll ask the questions when we have them. 792 00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:40,560 If it's off the record, I have to say so, right? 793 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,810 Do you want it to be off the record? 794 00:40:42,810 --> 00:40:47,060 I want people to know what I know, but not who I am. 795 00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:48,190 It'll be background. 796 00:40:48,190 --> 00:40:52,150 You'll be referred to as a U.S. official. 797 00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:01,750 So, whatever you feel comfortable telling us. 798 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:07,630 I believe your prediction about what could and will happen... 799 00:41:07,630 --> 00:41:09,640 if we go to war is spot on. 800 00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:13,090 And we're a lot closer than you think. 801 00:41:13,090 --> 00:41:13,840 How close? 802 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,180 A secret war planning group with a parallel intelligence... 803 00:41:17,180 --> 00:41:19,840 operation has been set up to bypass... 804 00:41:19,850 --> 00:41:22,520 the rest of the intelligence community. 805 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,400 How do you know this? 806 00:41:23,390 --> 00:41:26,350 They meet in the building where I work. 807 00:41:26,350 --> 00:41:28,350 And which building is that? 808 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,620 The one with the five sides. 809 00:41:32,610 --> 00:41:34,650 But you're not a part of that unit? 810 00:41:34,650 --> 00:41:35,440 No. 811 00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:36,950 So, how do you know about this? 812 00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:39,330 My desk is across the hall. 813 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:40,880 What office do you work for? 814 00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:46,330 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that. 815 00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:47,660 You're an analyst? 816 00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:51,430 Yes... but you can't disclose that, either. 817 00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:53,960 L'm speaking to you because l'm an American citizen... 818 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,510 and I don't like what these people are doing. 819 00:41:56,510 --> 00:42:00,180 Half a dozen men, most of whom have never served... 820 00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:02,050 in the military are making decisions... 821 00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:05,610 based on shoddy intelligence, and those decisions... 822 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,850 will impact our men and women in uniform. 823 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:15,020 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent. 824 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:20,370 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that? 825 00:42:20,370 --> 00:42:23,840 They've designed a process that doesn't conform... 826 00:42:23,830 --> 00:42:27,830 to any basic tenet of intelligence gathering. 827 00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:28,540 In what way? 828 00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:30,870 A decision is made, then the intelligence... 829 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,800 is sought to support that decision. 830 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,760 How do you know this? 831 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,060 They have no interest in Arabic speakers. 832 00:42:39,050 --> 00:42:41,380 Israelis come in without passes“. 833 00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:44,560 Without even being entered into a security log. 834 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,780 And for years the government has been funding a group... 835 00:42:47,770 --> 00:42:52,730 of exiled dissidents called the Iraqi National Congress. 836 00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:54,190 Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know. 837 00:42:54,190 --> 00:42:57,110 Who they want to install as the new leader of Iraq. 838 00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:59,570 Yeah, we've been trying to get a meeting with him. 839 00:42:59,570 --> 00:43:03,160 Do you know who set up this operation? 840 00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:08,490 Donald Rumsfeld. 841 00:43:08,540 --> 00:43:10,580 Is there any evidence to indicate that Iraq... 842 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:15,500 has attempted to or is willing to supply terrorists... 843 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,040 with weapons of mass destruction? 844 00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:21,890 The reports that say that something hasn't happened... 845 00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:25,190 are always interesting to me because as we know... 846 00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:29,970 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. 847 00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:32,070 We also know there are known unknowns. 848 00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:35,860 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. 849 00:43:35,860 --> 00:43:38,360 But there are also unknown unknowns. 850 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,900 The one's we don 't know we don 't know. 851 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,780 We're working on a theory that the administration... 852 00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:44,320 has already decided to go to war... 853 00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:46,790 and is now focused on how to justify it. 854 00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:47,880 It's not a theory. 855 00:43:47,870 --> 00:43:50,200 We've also been told by a number of individuals that... 856 00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:53,470 Rumsfeld's the one spearheading this intelligence gathering. 857 00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:56,000 I wouldn't exactly call it intelligence gathering. 858 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,130 It's more like intelligence cherry picking. 859 00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:59,920 And if they don't find any cherries... 860 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,170 they just grab a piece of shit... 861 00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:05,230 and they paint it red, and they stick it in a Shirley Temple. 862 00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:07,890 You seem irritated. 863 00:44:07,890 --> 00:44:10,680 L'm out there looking for weapons that might not exist... 864 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,600 to justify a war that might not be wise. 865 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,770 And have you found any evidence of WMD? 866 00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:19,700 No, sir. 867 00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:21,440 But Saddam is looking to acquire nukes, right? 868 00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:24,500 Yeah, and l'm trying to fuck Jennifer Lopez, but I have... 869 00:44:24,490 --> 00:44:26,910 a sinking feeling that neither of those things is gonna happen. 870 00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:32,700 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote? 871 00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:33,300 Sure. 872 00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:35,500 Have you found anything to support the administration's... 873 00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:39,670 theory that Saddam is close to or has acquired nuclear weapons? 874 00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:40,920 We've searched every cave... 875 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,260 and looked up every camel's ass in Iraq. 876 00:44:43,260 --> 00:44:49,470 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way." 877 00:44:50,180 --> 00:44:52,390 Might have to clean that up a bit. 878 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:55,060 Quite colorful, though. 879 00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:56,560 [LANDAY] Uh, honey, I think someone... 880 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,310 is stealing our New York Times. 881 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,740 [VLATKA] I canceled it. 882 00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:01,650 Why would you do that? 883 00:45:01,650 --> 00:45:02,940 It's propaganda. 884 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:03,740 I need that for my work. 885 00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:06,580 It's packaging press releases from the White House... 886 00:45:06,570 --> 00:45:08,740 the State Department, and the Pentagon. 887 00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:11,740 Sorry, that's not a real newspaper. 888 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,830 How was your day? 889 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,050 Warren and I met with some gentleman... 890 00:45:22,050 --> 00:45:24,680 from the intelligence community who confirmed that... 891 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,600 there's no real evidence to support... 892 00:45:26,590 --> 00:45:31,050 the administration's claim on WMD. 893 00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,690 What have I been telling you? 894 00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:40,700 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source. 895 00:45:44,490 --> 00:45:47,500 You know, this is what they do. They lie. 896 00:45:47,490 --> 00:45:51,620 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable. 897 00:45:53,580 --> 00:45:55,870 I hope l'm wrong. I really, really do. 898 00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:59,420 But the Bush Administration, they don't care about the truth. 899 00:45:59,420 --> 00:46:01,960 They don't even respond to your articles. 900 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,840 If they want a war, they're gonna get one. 901 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,220 And there's nothing that you or the first amendment... 902 00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:10,630 is gonna do to stop them. 903 00:46:23,610 --> 00:46:26,360 Extra, extra, read all about it. 904 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:34,910 "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands... 905 00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:38,410 "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American... 906 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:40,550 "officials believe were intended as components... 907 00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:44,710 "of centrifuges to enrich uranium." 908 00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:46,710 Well, one thing's for sure. 909 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:48,140 What's that? 910 00:46:48,130 --> 00:46:51,260 We can't both be right. 911 00:46:54,140 --> 00:46:55,510 Who're you calling? 912 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,400 Loose Nukes. 913 00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:58,180 If she wouldn't talk to you about going into Iraq... 914 00:46:58,190 --> 00:47:00,990 what makes you think she's gonna go on the record on WMD? 915 00:47:00,980 --> 00:47:05,230 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son. 916 00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:10,900 Landay. 917 00:47:12,570 --> 00:47:15,370 It's Joe Galloway. Wow. 918 00:47:15,370 --> 00:47:17,660 Man even walks like he has a Bronze Star. 919 00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:19,080 LOOSE NUKES (OVER PHONE) Hello. 920 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,750 Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay. 921 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:22,670 Hello, Jonathan. 922 00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:28,050 Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh? 923 00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:30,210 You're calling me to chat about the weather? 924 00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:35,190 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD. 925 00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:37,140 It'll be deep, deep background. 926 00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:38,640 Goodbye, Jonathan. 927 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,060 No wait, don't hang up. 928 00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:45,440 That Charm Offensive... that's formidable. 929 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,900 Listen, we need you here. 930 00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:52,070 You've developed sources over the years that have access... 931 00:47:52,070 --> 00:47:55,360 that Landay and Strobel just can't get. 932 00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:56,920 L'll make it easy on you. 933 00:47:56,910 --> 00:47:57,950 L'll give you a column... 934 00:47:57,950 --> 00:48:02,200 and your name doesn't have to appear on anything else. 935 00:48:02,210 --> 00:48:04,970 Whatever else you want to write on the side, you can... 936 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,920 and of course, there won't be any glory, but-- 937 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,960 Glory's for young men. 938 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,430 Let me percolate on it. 939 00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:16,840 Let me turn to the issue of Iraq. 940 00:48:16,850 --> 00:48:19,650 You have said that it poses... 941 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,140 a mortal threat to the United States. 942 00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:24,640 How? Define "mortal threat." 943 00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:30,410 Well, this'/I take some time, but it's important for us... 944 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,530 as I mentioned earlier... 945 00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:34,990 to remember that the world has changed, that prior to-- 946 00:48:34,990 --> 00:48:36,610 I'd forgotten the world had changed. 947 00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:38,330 S0 did I. l'm so happy he mentioned that. 948 00:48:38,330 --> 00:48:42,050 What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe... 949 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,750 would enhance his nuclear development program ? 950 00:48:44,750 --> 00:48:46,790 Well, in the nuclear weapons arena... 951 00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:49,290 you've got specifically aluminum tubes. 952 00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:51,260 There 's a story in The New York Times this morning... 953 00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:54,270 this is and I want to attribute to The Times. 954 00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:55,970 I don't want to talk about, obviously... 955 00:48:55,970 --> 00:48:59,260 specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that... 956 00:48:59,310 --> 00:49:04,280 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been... 957 00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:07,520 able to intercept and prevent him from acquiring... 958 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,850 through this particular channel... 959 00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:11,650 the kinds of tubes that are necessary... 960 00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:12,570 to build a centrifuge. 961 00:49:12,610 --> 00:49:15,690 And the centrifuge is required to take low-grade uranium... 962 00:49:15,740 --> 00:49:19,280 and enhance it into highly enriched uranium... 963 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,080 which is what you have to have in order to build a bomb. 964 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,750 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times. 965 00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:28,250 Avoids the pesky nuisance of being arrested... 966 00:49:28,250 --> 00:49:29,460 for revealing classified information. 967 00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:32,380 One can only wonder how Judy Miller and Michael Gordon... 968 00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:33,300 got that information. 969 00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,260 Does it bother you, bug you... 970 00:49:36,260 --> 00:49:39,390 that you have not captured Osama bin Laden in over a year? 971 00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:46,430 I'd like to see him on television in handcuffs... 972 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,860 ifl can put it into those terms. 973 00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:50,160 I think all of us would. 974 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:53,440 But I don 't lay awake at night concerned about that. 975 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,190 There 's one school of thought that says he's already dead. 976 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,370 We haven 't heard anything of him in many months. 977 00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:59,500 [RUSSERT] What do you think? 978 00:49:59,490 --> 00:50:00,910 I don't know, I really don 't know. 979 00:50:00,910 --> 00:50:02,200 I can argue it round or flat. 980 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,330 I didn't know we were still debating the shape of the earth. 981 00:50:05,330 --> 00:50:08,250 L've got sources on both sides. 982 00:50:08,830 --> 00:50:12,040 But the U. S. military would be enormously effective... 983 00:50:12,050 --> 00:50:13,050 in this circumstance. 984 00:50:13,050 --> 00:50:16,140 And I don 't think it would be that tough a fight. 985 00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:17,880 That is, I don 't think there 's any question... 986 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,930 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective. 987 00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:23,470 Landay. 988 00:50:23,470 --> 00:50:25,560 Yeah? 989 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,850 We are right, aren't we? 990 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,070 Everybody, listen up. 991 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,070 We're not NBC. 992 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,360 We're not ABC. We're not CBS. 993 00:50:41,370 --> 00:50:45,500 We're not FOX. We're not CNN. 994 00:50:45,660 --> 00:50:47,750 We're not The New York Times. 995 00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:50,750 We're not The Washington Post. 996 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,600 We are Knight Ridder. 997 00:50:57,170 --> 00:51:03,510 We have readers who live in towns with military bases. 998 00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:07,010 Fort Benning, Fort Bragg, Fort Jackson... 999 00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:13,410 and over 4O other military bases throughout this country. 1000 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,400 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers... 1001 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,700 for the Bush administration, let them. 1002 00:51:23,330 --> 00:51:28,880 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war. 1003 00:51:29,540 --> 00:51:35,290 We write for people whose kids get sent to war. 1004 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,300 So, when the government says something... 1005 00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:43,090 you only have one question to ask. 1006 00:51:45,890 --> 00:51:48,390 Is it true? 1007 00:51:53,770 --> 00:51:56,520 L'm through percolating. 1008 00:51:58,860 --> 00:51:59,940 Let's get to work. 1009 00:51:59,950 --> 00:52:02,790 Administration officials spanned out on the Sunday talk shows... 1010 00:52:02,780 --> 00:52:04,740 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq. 1011 00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:08,280 Who else is involved in The Office of Special Planning? 1012 00:52:08,290 --> 00:52:11,260 Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others. 1013 00:52:11,250 --> 00:52:13,620 Instead of listening to people who have spent their careers... 1014 00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:17,760 evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel... 1015 00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:20,050 from unreliable sources and taking it... 1016 00:52:20,050 --> 00:52:21,130 directly to the White House. 1017 00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:23,380 George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence... 1018 00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:26,310 told Senators, he could not rule out cooperation... 1019 00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:28,800 between Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. 1020 00:52:30,140 --> 00:52:32,270 l've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes. 1021 00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:35,100 They're too small to be used for enriching uranium. 1022 00:52:35,110 --> 00:52:35,950 What does that mean? 1023 00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:37,520 They can't be used for a nuclear bomb. 1024 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,270 [REPORTER] The President of the United States... 1025 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,330 said we're not going to permit nations to develop... 1026 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,440 weapons of mass destruction... 1027 00:52:42,450 --> 00:52:44,580 as they're gonna supply those weapons to a network... 1028 00:52:44,570 --> 00:52:46,450 of terrorism that could attack the United States. 1029 00:52:46,450 --> 00:52:49,160 Cheney is trying to shut out Powell. 1030 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,030 Where'd you get this stuff? 1031 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,800 Old friend. 1032 00:52:51,790 --> 00:52:53,870 [REPORTER] We 're starting to see a consensus from within... 1033 00:52:53,870 --> 00:52:55,960 the administration for the removal of Saddam Hussein. 1034 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,710 [COMMENTA TOR] The administration has pointed... 1035 00:52:57,710 --> 00:53:00,670 to a secret meeting in Prague between Iraqi intelligence... 1036 00:53:00,670 --> 00:53:02,090 and 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta. 1037 00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:04,260 Bush administration is pressing the United Nations... 1038 00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:06,840 Security Council for a resolution... 1039 00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:07,900 to put pressure on Iraq. 1040 00:53:07,890 --> 00:53:09,800 President Bush will address the United Nations today... 1041 00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:13,110 in hopes of putting together a multi-national coalition... 1042 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:14,180 to disarm Saddam Hussein. 1043 00:53:14,190 --> 00:53:17,030 The White House is lobbying Congress to authorize... 1044 00:53:17,020 --> 00:53:18,520 the use of force in Iraq. 1045 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,230 The minute these guys get their hands on anything... 1046 00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:22,480 remotely resembling evidence... 1047 00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:24,200 they leak it to The New York Times. 1048 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,160 Now, I understand the position you're in... 1049 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,870 but please don't hang up on me. 1050 00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:29,960 [LOOSE NUKES] Okay. 1051 00:53:29,950 --> 00:53:33,370 Okay, the vice president of the United States... 1052 00:53:33,370 --> 00:53:36,750 went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein... 1053 00:53:36,750 --> 00:53:40,130 is on the threshold of developing a nuclear weapon. 1054 00:53:40,130 --> 00:53:42,960 Then he goes on national television... 1055 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,460 and says the same thing. 1056 00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:47,680 Your question ? 1057 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,150 Ask the question. 1058 00:53:50,140 --> 00:53:53,140 What I want to know is, is Dick Cheney ignoring... 1059 00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:56,100 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions... 1060 00:53:56,100 --> 00:54:00,440 or is he just getting bad intelligence? 1061 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,860 The vice president is lying. 1062 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,790 Thank you, thank you so much. 1063 00:54:07,780 --> 00:54:10,700 What? What, what, what? What'd she say? 1064 00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:11,870 He's lying. 1065 00:54:11,870 --> 00:54:13,870 He's lying. Cheney is lying. 1066 00:54:13,870 --> 00:54:15,990 Cheney's lying! Cheney's lying! 1067 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,220 He's lying! John! He's lying! 1068 00:54:19,210 --> 00:54:21,040 John! 1069 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,380 Where the hell is he? 1070 00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:23,540 Here we go. Here we go. 1071 00:54:23,550 --> 00:54:25,930 He's lying- He's lying- 1072 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,710 Cheney's lying- 1073 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:29,560 Where did this come from? 1074 00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:31,220 Loose Nukes. 1075 00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:31,760 Okay. 1076 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,260 Now, we know what's being talk about, we got to get inside... 1077 00:54:34,270 --> 00:54:38,360 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion. 1078 00:54:38,350 --> 00:54:40,190 I may have a guy. 1079 00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:41,650 Anybody we know? 1080 00:54:41,650 --> 00:54:43,810 The Usual Suspect. 1081 00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:55,700 You didn't want to do this in a parking garage? 1082 00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:58,800 If there was one that served Pad Thai, I would. 1083 00:54:58,790 --> 00:55:00,870 How's civilian life? 1084 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,760 My retirement lasted about four hours. 1085 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:04,750 You're with Knight Ridder? 1086 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,140 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that? 1087 00:55:08,170 --> 00:55:08,840 I have my ways. 1088 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,680 You been following what we're doing over there? 1089 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,050 Yes, I have. 1090 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:13,600 And? 1091 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,440 You two may be singlehandedly saving... 1092 00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:17,970 the Fourth Estate from extinction. 1093 00:55:17,980 --> 00:55:21,240 Mainstream media hasn't picked up a thing we been running. 1094 00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:23,150 Should be all the confirmation you need... 1095 00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:25,360 that you're onto something. 1096 00:55:27,610 --> 00:55:29,690 What can I do for you? 1097 00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:32,460 We need some help with the higher ups. 1098 00:55:32,450 --> 00:55:33,240 How high? 1099 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:34,490 High as you can get us. 1100 00:55:34,490 --> 00:55:35,820 You've been around a long time, Joe. 1101 00:55:35,830 --> 00:55:38,380 I doubt there's anything there that'll surprise you. 1102 00:55:38,370 --> 00:55:40,160 I was married one time to a woman who thought... 1103 00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:42,260 New Hampshire was the capital of Massachusetts. 1104 00:55:42,250 --> 00:55:45,920 There's always something you don't see coming. 1105 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,590 What do you want to know? 1106 00:55:48,590 --> 00:55:52,010 Everything the administration doesn't want us to know. 1107 00:55:52,010 --> 00:55:56,600 You and I are going to be eating a lot of Pad Thai. 1108 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,520 What kind of time frame are we looking at? 1109 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,890 Next month, Congress is scheduled to vote... 1110 00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:05,660 on whether or not to give the president... 1111 00:56:05,650 --> 00:56:07,400 the authorization to go to war. 1112 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,270 Are the votes there? 1113 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,410 The administration thinks so. 1114 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:15,320 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd... 1115 00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:18,290 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 1116 00:56:18,290 --> 00:56:22,630 The resolution that authorized the president to use military... 1117 00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:23,960 force to repel armed attacks... 1118 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,210 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia. 1119 00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:32,130 A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States... 1120 00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:35,970 armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close. 1121 00:56:35,970 --> 00:56:38,430 The clerk will call the roll. 1122 00:56:38,430 --> 00:56:40,720 [CLERK] Mr. Biden, aye. 1123 00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:41,980 Mrs. Clinton, aye. 1124 00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:44,570 It was this resolution that provided the basis... 1125 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,060 for American involvement in the war in Vietnam. 1126 00:56:49,070 --> 00:56:51,370 Mr. Kerry, aye. 1127 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,780 Mr. Lieberman, aye. 1128 00:56:53,780 --> 00:56:55,450 Mr. Lott, aye. 1129 00:56:55,450 --> 00:56:56,990 It was this resolution... 1130 00:56:56,990 --> 00:57:02,580 that lead to the deaths of 58,000 Americans. 1131 00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:04,910 Mr. McCain, aye. 1132 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,220 Mr. McConnell, aye. 1133 00:57:06,210 --> 00:57:11,710 After all that carnage, we began to learn that in voting... 1134 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,770 for the Tonkin Gulf resolution... 1135 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,260 we were basing our votes on bad information. 1136 00:57:17,260 --> 00:57:19,760 And history is repeating itself. 1137 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,180 Mr. Santorum, aye. 1138 00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:24,850 I urge senators to go down on the Capital Mall... 1139 00:57:24,850 --> 00:57:27,020 and look at the Vietnam Memorial. 1140 00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:30,860 Nearly every day, you will find someone at that wall... 1141 00:57:30,860 --> 00:57:32,980 weeping for a loved one. 1142 00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:34,370 Mr. Sessions, aye. 1143 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,740 I will always remember the words of Senator Wayne Morse. 1144 00:57:37,740 --> 00:57:39,410 Mr. Specter, aye. 1145 00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:41,870 He stated, "The resolution will pass and senators... 1146 00:57:41,870 --> 00:57:45,080 "who vote for it will live to regret it." 1147 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,040 We got K-10, we got Dixie, we don't need another source. 1148 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,920 You know we got this. 1149 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,250 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense... 1150 00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:52,670 of running a shadow intelligence unit... 1151 00:57:52,670 --> 00:57:55,880 out of the Pentagon, it's nice to have a little insurance. 1152 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,380 That's all l'm saying. 1153 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,940 All right, let's share it with the rest of the class. 1154 00:58:03,930 --> 00:58:04,970 You want to tell them? 1155 00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:09,490 Earlier today, I was summoned to the Pentagon. 1156 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:09,980 By Whom? 1157 00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:13,110 Rumsfeld, OI' Limp Dick sent a message saying... 1158 00:58:13,110 --> 00:58:14,980 "All your sources are retired generals." 1159 00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:16,790 And I said, "All due respect, sir... 1160 00:58:16,780 --> 00:58:19,570 "80% of my sources are active military." 1161 00:58:19,570 --> 00:58:21,200 "Some of them are working in this building... 1162 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,370 "and some of them are actually working on your staff." 1163 00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:26,660 "And hell, one or two of them might even be in this room." 1164 00:58:26,660 --> 00:58:28,660 Did you actually have sources in the room? 1165 00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:33,350 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church. 1166 00:58:34,420 --> 00:58:37,050 How close are we to getting something we can run with 1167 00:58:37,050 --> 00:58:38,720 on the Office of Special Plans? 1168 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,590 Well, we already g0t-- 1169 00:58:39,590 --> 00:58:42,430 No, we're just gonna check with a couple more sources. 1170 00:58:42,430 --> 00:58:44,850 What's wrong with the sources you have? 1171 00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:46,810 Well, we just want to be certain. 1172 00:58:46,810 --> 00:58:50,230 You know, you sit on a story like this, the dam bursts. 1173 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:53,230 Let's just move on this, okay, boys? 1174 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,620 When are you gonna be finished? 1175 00:58:57,610 --> 00:59:02,530 Just a few more minutes, baby. 1176 00:59:03,790 --> 00:59:08,130 I can't sleep with the computer light on. 1177 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,500 Actually, l'm done. 1178 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,710 So, what are you working on? 1179 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,600 Rumsfeld has a secret Intel group that's going... 1180 00:59:20,590 --> 00:59:27,010 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war. 1181 00:59:30,810 --> 00:59:33,310 What the fuck, Jonathan? 1182 00:59:33,310 --> 00:59:34,100 What? 1183 00:59:34,110 --> 00:59:37,330 Have you been talking about this on the phone? 1184 00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:40,400 Yeah, of course. 1185 00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:42,790 So, what? 1186 00:59:44,490 --> 00:59:47,990 They will hear you. Vlatka. 1187 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,590 You're writing about infighting between spy agencies. 1188 00:59:51,580 --> 00:59:52,120 So? 1189 00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:54,180 They're spy agencies, Jonathan. 1190 00:59:54,170 --> 00:59:57,290 They listen to your calls, they read your emails. 1191 00:59:57,300 --> 00:59:59,350 They probably bugged this house. 1192 00:59:59,340 --> 01:00:01,340 You're being paranoid. 1193 01:00:01,340 --> 01:00:02,260 You're being naive. 1194 01:00:02,260 --> 01:00:06,140 This isn't Yugoslavia, this is America. 1195 01:00:06,140 --> 01:00:08,310 America has changed. 1196 01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:09,350 War is big business for them. 1197 01:00:09,350 --> 01:00:11,930 You get in their way, they're gonna kill you. 1198 01:00:11,940 --> 01:00:17,200 Honey, you are being ridiculous. All right? Come on. 1199 01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:20,030 Don't you get it? 1200 01:00:20,030 --> 01:00:23,400 You know what these people are capable of? 1201 01:00:23,410 --> 01:00:26,290 You have a family! 1202 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,370 Vlatka. Vlatka! 1203 01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:38,670 Oh, somebody's struggling. What's the matter? 1204 01:00:38,670 --> 01:00:42,380 Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night. 1205 01:00:42,380 --> 01:00:43,010 All right! 1206 01:00:43,010 --> 01:00:47,760 No, not that like that. It was conspiracy theories. 1207 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,430 About what? 1208 01:00:48,430 --> 01:00:52,310 Oh... she thinks the government is monitoring us. 1209 01:00:52,310 --> 01:00:56,390 I mean, it's ridiculous. 1210 01:00:57,900 --> 01:00:59,980 Check your email. 1211 01:01:11,290 --> 01:01:13,300 John, you got to see this. 1212 01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:14,540 Oh, hold on a second. 1213 01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:19,580 Arthur, I really don't want to have this conversation again. 1214 01:01:21,050 --> 01:01:25,060 He hung up. What is it? 1215 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,720 What do we do? 1216 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,410 You're such a wuss. You're a wuss. 1217 01:01:53,410 --> 01:01:54,740 You're a much bigger wuss. 1218 01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:56,970 Shut up, will you stop it, you're being a child. 1219 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,290 You're being a-- Shut up! 1220 01:01:58,290 --> 01:02:01,290 [REPORTER] Today's UN Security Council resolution 1221 01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:05,270 can be boiled down to four words, the clock is ticking. 1222 01:02:05,260 --> 01:02:09,510 Iraq's only alternative to full compliance, President Bush... 1223 01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:12,430 made clear today, is of military confrontation. 1224 01:02:12,430 --> 01:02:16,350 [BUSH] The full disarmament of weapons of mass destruction... 1225 01:02:16,350 --> 01:02:17,390 by Iraq will occur. 1226 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:24,580 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how. 1227 01:02:35,790 --> 01:02:37,290 Son of a bitch. 1228 01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:37,910 They beat us. 1229 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,340 But they missed the whole point of why the unit was set up. 1230 01:02:40,340 --> 01:02:42,510 It doesn't matter, they got the scoop. 1231 01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:43,130 With What? 1232 01:02:43,130 --> 01:02:45,170 There's nothing about cherry picking intelligence. 1233 01:02:45,170 --> 01:02:48,050 There's nothing about bypassing other agencies. 1234 01:02:48,050 --> 01:02:49,130 We can still run ours. 1235 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:50,440 John, no one's gonna pay attention... 1236 01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:53,930 to a second story explaining all that. 1237 01:02:53,930 --> 01:02:54,800 We had it. 1238 01:02:54,810 --> 01:02:57,190 Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be pissed. 1239 01:02:57,190 --> 01:03:00,400 Maybe he hadn't seen it yet. 1240 01:03:12,450 --> 01:03:15,530 How is it possible he hasn't talked to us all day? 1241 01:03:15,540 --> 01:03:19,420 He's giving us the silent treatment. 1242 01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:23,830 Oh, shit, here he comes. 1243 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,640 Oh, Jesus. 1244 01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:33,930 You had the story. 1245 01:03:34,220 --> 01:03:37,640 Don't ever forget how it feels to get beat. 1246 01:03:40,770 --> 01:03:43,060 The only information Congress is getting... 1247 01:03:43,060 --> 01:03:45,150 is coming directly from the administration. 1248 01:03:45,150 --> 01:03:47,980 Iraq is a huge country about the size of France... 1249 01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:50,200 if they want to hide their weapons of mass destruction... 1250 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,700 they're going to be able to do so. 1251 01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:54,420 They're not going to rethink their positions... 1252 01:03:54,410 --> 01:03:56,530 unless they are provided with independent intel. 1253 01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:59,630 No one who's supported the authorization for war... 1254 01:03:59,620 --> 01:04:03,120 in Congress, in Iraq, not the president... 1255 01:04:03,130 --> 01:04:06,970 I am sure would go to war just because he wants to go to war. 1256 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,460 Rumsfeld's been trying to sell this idea that an Iraqi... 1257 01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:15,730 intelligence officer offered bin Laden safe haven in '99. 1258 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,260 Yeah. 1259 01:04:16,260 --> 01:04:18,510 Well, if that offer actually had happened... 1260 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,900 bin Laden would have told Saddam to go fuck himself. 1261 01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:23,560 What do you make of the statement made... 1262 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,270 by the Iraqi government that Iraq has no weapons... 1263 01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:29,320 of mass destruction and is not developing? 1264 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,730 They're lying. 1265 01:04:33,110 --> 01:04:34,280 Next. 1266 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,360 Your daughter is lovely. 1267 01:04:35,370 --> 01:04:37,330 Well, I wish I could take credit. 1268 01:04:37,330 --> 01:04:38,790 She gets it from her mother. 1269 01:04:38,790 --> 01:04:39,960 Dad, can I get you anything? 1270 01:04:39,950 --> 01:04:41,910 Oh, no, thanks, sweetie. Mr. Strobel? 1271 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:44,620 I'm fine. All right. 1272 01:04:47,170 --> 01:04:47,960 Just real casual. 1273 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,670 Tom and I were just talking about your latest article. 1274 01:04:50,670 --> 01:04:51,300 Oh, yeah? 1275 01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:52,800 Seems like you don't trust politicians. 1276 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,090 Well, that's a pretty solid rule ofjournalism. 1277 01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:58,310 Even when they're talking about war? 1278 01:04:58,310 --> 01:05:00,520 Especially when they're talking about war. 1279 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,030 You really believe there's no WMD? 1280 01:05:03,020 --> 01:05:04,640 Our names are on the article. 1281 01:05:04,650 --> 01:05:06,860 They don't say that there's no WMD. 1282 01:05:06,860 --> 01:05:08,410 They just said that the administration... 1283 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,520 hasn't offered any proof of WMD. 1284 01:05:09,530 --> 01:05:12,410 And you don't think they'll find any? 1285 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,200 No, I don't. 1286 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,530 You don't know that. 1287 01:05:16,530 --> 01:05:17,320 No, we don't. 1288 01:05:17,330 --> 01:05:19,830 But before we send our kids to their possible deaths... 1289 01:05:19,830 --> 01:05:21,290 don't you think the administration... 1290 01:05:21,290 --> 01:05:23,250 has an obligation to provide proof of their rationale? 1291 01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:26,510 What if that proof comes in the form of a mushroom cloud? 1292 01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:29,540 Okay, you've been watching Fox News again? 1293 01:05:29,550 --> 01:05:32,760 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing. 1294 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,430 Oh, well, then it must be true. 1295 01:05:34,430 --> 01:05:36,390 You kids are too young to remember... 1296 01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:38,690 how close we came to nuclear war in '62. 1297 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,390 Hell, Warren, you were born the very day... 1298 01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:43,560 President Kennedy ordered the blockade against Cuba. 1299 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,270 The most powerful enemy we knew was gonna put nuclear weapons... 1300 01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:48,940 90 miles off our coast. 1301 01:05:48,940 --> 01:05:50,230 The president had to demonstrate strength. 1302 01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:54,650 And the next day, Kennedy sent Adlai Stevenson to the U.N... 1303 01:05:54,650 --> 01:05:57,900 to offer proof that the missiles existed. 1304 01:05:58,370 --> 01:05:59,290 It's notjust Fox News. 1305 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,870 It's the Washington Post. lt's The New York Times. 1306 01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:06,290 Hell, proof is coming from every major media outlet... 1307 01:06:06,290 --> 01:06:10,080 in the country, except yours. 1308 01:06:11,090 --> 01:06:11,720 Okay. 1309 01:06:11,710 --> 01:06:18,720 Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me. 1310 01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:23,140 I'm going to grab a beer. 1311 01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:27,350 Jesus, Dad. 1312 01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:39,360 Are you okay, bro? 1313 01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:41,290 Yeah. 1314 01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:45,960 Are we good reporters? 1315 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:46,630 What? 1316 01:06:46,620 --> 01:06:49,210 I mean, are we doing anything... 1317 01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:50,670 other than practicing good journalism? 1318 01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:53,000 No, we're doing exactly what we're supposed-- 1319 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,880 Then, why the fuck are we the only ones... 1320 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,970 running these fucking stories?! 1321 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,980 He just wanted you to see all sides to him... 1322 01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:10,810 before you take it to the next level. 1323 01:07:14,780 --> 01:07:16,660 Almost three months ago, the United Nations... 1324 01:07:16,650 --> 01:07:19,280 Security Council gave Saddam Hussein... 1325 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,070 his final chance to disarm. 1326 01:07:22,070 --> 01:07:23,620 Our intelligence officials estimate... 1327 01:07:23,620 --> 01:07:25,370 that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce... 1328 01:07:25,370 --> 01:07:28,330 What's the point of having U.N. weapons inspections... 1329 01:07:28,330 --> 01:07:30,910 if Bush and Cheney are just going to ignore the results? 1330 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,220 Well, when you're creating your own reality... 1331 01:07:34,210 --> 01:07:36,040 it's pretty easy to ignore the facts. 1332 01:07:36,050 --> 01:07:38,600 And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient... 1333 01:07:38,590 --> 01:07:41,380 for the mainstream media at this point? 1334 01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:43,480 When news is a profit center-- 1335 01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:45,510 Access becomes currency. 1336 01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:47,060 Exactly. 1337 01:07:47,890 --> 01:07:49,640 L'm proud of you, John. 1338 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:50,430 Why? 1339 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,990 For not wavering. 1340 01:07:53,980 --> 01:07:55,440 It's got to be tough. 1341 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,400 It's not that tough. 1342 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,780 I know who their sources are and I know who our sources are. 1343 01:08:01,780 --> 01:08:05,070 "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured in a Talk with Bush... 1344 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,540 "About the Post-Hussein Era." 1345 01:08:07,540 --> 01:08:08,340 By Judith Miller. 1346 01:08:08,330 --> 01:08:11,000 She'd quote a carnival fortune teller... 1347 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,500 if he was willing to say Iraq had WMD. 1348 01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:16,330 We gotta dig into the declassified... 1349 01:08:16,340 --> 01:08:17,640 national intelligence estimate... 1350 01:08:17,630 --> 01:08:20,920 and find out if there are any gems in there. 1351 01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:21,850 Yeah, l'd love to see... 1352 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,720 what they redacted from the classified version. 1353 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,970 [WALCOTT] Oh, what's going on with Chalabi? 1354 01:08:25,970 --> 01:08:26,760 We're on it. 1355 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,470 L'm gonna keep an eye on my old boss. 1356 01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:29,600 I got a feeling. Yeah... 1357 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,140 Colin may be the last person standing between peace and war. 1358 01:08:34,150 --> 01:08:36,450 Yeah. 1359 01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:46,750 Goddamn it! 1360 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,670 Fuck! 1361 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,050 [ARTHUR] Angela, did the mayor set a date... 1362 01:09:00,050 --> 01:09:00,930 for the fundraiser yet? 1363 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,720 Hey, Arthur, I was totally wrong. 1364 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,510 Your head isn't literally up your ass. 1365 01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:09,470 It's always a pleasure to see you, John... 1366 01:09:09,470 --> 01:09:11,680 but would you please wait outside? 1367 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,270 You know, it's bad enough you're ignoring all our work... 1368 01:09:14,270 --> 01:09:16,890 but the fact that you're running these bullshit... 1369 01:09:16,900 --> 01:09:20,490 Judy Miller pieces is unconscionable. 1370 01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:21,770 Not in here, John. Okay, please? 1371 01:09:21,780 --> 01:09:25,910 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me. 1372 01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:27,040 Jesus. 1373 01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:29,950 Look, as painful as this might seem... 1374 01:09:29,950 --> 01:09:31,030 I don't answer to you, John. 1375 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,590 Yes, as evidenced by the fact that you still have a job. 1376 01:09:33,580 --> 01:09:35,830 You know what, my responsibility is to my readers. 1377 01:09:35,830 --> 01:09:37,170 They're citizens who are patriots... 1378 01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:39,540 they're citizens who support our troops. 1379 01:09:39,550 --> 01:09:41,350 And how do you do that, Arthur? 1380 01:09:41,340 --> 01:09:44,050 By going down on The New York Times? 1381 01:09:44,050 --> 01:09:46,090 I don't have time for this. 1382 01:09:46,090 --> 01:09:47,630 No, you don't have time. 1383 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,640 You don't have time. 1384 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,150 You know, one day, The New York Times... 1385 01:09:50,140 --> 01:09:51,640 is going to apologize to its readers. 1386 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,640 And when that day comes, are you gonna write your own apology? 1387 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,600 Or are you just going to run theirs? 1388 01:09:58,610 --> 01:10:01,280 Have a nice day, John. 1389 01:10:02,110 --> 01:10:04,690 It is beginning to look more and more as though... 1390 01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:06,500 war with Iraq is inevitable. 1391 01:10:06,490 --> 01:10:09,660 The Showdown with Iraq and the countdown to a speech... 1392 01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:11,820 by Secretary of State Co/in Powell... 1393 01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:13,710 that could move the world closer to war. 1394 01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:16,290 There 's not much left for the soldiers to do but wait... 1395 01:10:16,290 --> 01:10:20,420 for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports... 1396 01:10:20,420 --> 01:10:22,880 That's so frustrating. 1397 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,170 I don't know that I could do what you do. 1398 01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:28,470 You know, I once got it in my head... 1399 01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:30,340 that I should hike the Appalachian Trail. 1400 01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:32,560 Thought that it would just be a good challenge for myself. 1401 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,650 Then I look at it on a map and it's like 2200 miles. 1402 01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:40,730 I realized... 1403 01:10:40,730 --> 01:10:42,940 That it would take a lifetime? 1404 01:10:42,940 --> 01:10:45,070 Yeah. 1405 01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:50,210 Or we could walk it together. 1406 01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:55,090 L'm gonna hold you to that. 1407 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,620 [REPORTER] Worldwide resistance is mounting... 1408 01:10:56,620 --> 01:11:00,410 against America 's military intervention into Iraq. 1409 01:11:00,420 --> 01:11:03,300 From US cities to Europe and the Middle East... 1410 01:11:03,300 --> 01:11:06,600 demonstrators have taken to the streets in opposition... 1411 01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:11,180 to the United States' threat to invade Iraq. 1412 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,770 Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay, how do you do? 1413 01:11:19,770 --> 01:11:21,190 Hello. I'm Entifadh Qanbar. 1414 01:11:21,190 --> 01:11:23,810 Hi. Now, please, follow me. 1415 01:11:24,690 --> 01:11:25,440 Who's this dude? 1416 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:30,280 Guy who used to deliver pizzas. l'm not kidding. 1417 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,950 Minister Chalabi, Mr. Jonathan Landay... 1418 01:11:31,950 --> 01:11:36,280 and Warren Strobel from Knight Ridder News. 1419 01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:37,840 Gentlemen, welcome. 1420 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:42,290 Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us. 1421 01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:44,790 I've been very busy. 1422 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,510 Talking to our competitors. 1423 01:11:46,510 --> 01:11:49,100 I speak with whomever wishes to speak with me. 1424 01:11:49,090 --> 01:11:51,380 After all, I have nothing to hide... 1425 01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:55,350 which is more than I can say for Saddam. 1426 01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:57,270 Okay, well, since you brought him up... 1427 01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:58,480 I thought we might talk about what... 1428 01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:00,820 you know about his weapons and how he might be hiding them. 1429 01:12:00,810 --> 01:12:06,650 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know. 1430 01:12:06,650 --> 01:12:08,650 Right, and you know that how? 1431 01:12:08,650 --> 01:12:11,690 I know everything that's happening in my country. 1432 01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:15,330 Even though Iraq hasn't been your country for over a decade? 1433 01:12:15,330 --> 01:12:19,920 I may be an exile, but I'm still an Iraqi. 1434 01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:22,370 Well, I think the point my colleague is trying to make... 1435 01:12:22,370 --> 01:12:25,750 is how would you, an enemy of Saddam, in exile... 1436 01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:29,380 have access to such valuable information? 1437 01:12:29,380 --> 01:12:31,170 I maintain close relationships... 1438 01:12:31,180 --> 01:12:33,430 with dissident intelligence sources. 1439 01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:35,810 Is there a way we can verify that? 1440 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,510 No. 1441 01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:38,800 See, that's kind of a problem for us... 1442 01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:39,940 because we can't write a story-- 1443 01:12:39,930 --> 01:12:46,480 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq. 1444 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,730 With you as its leader? 1445 01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:51,240 If the people of Iraq wish for me to return, yes. 1446 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,620 I want the opportunity to help rebuild my country... 1447 01:12:55,620 --> 01:12:57,960 the way Mandela did in South Africa. 1448 01:12:57,990 --> 01:13:02,830 But Mandela didn't ask the U.S. to invade his country. 1449 01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:05,370 He wasn't fighting terrorists. 1450 01:13:05,380 --> 01:13:08,550 With all due respect, that's where the red flags... 1451 01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:09,390 start to go up for us. 1452 01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:13,010 Are you implying that l've created a false narrative... 1453 01:13:13,010 --> 01:13:13,840 for my own pursuits? 1454 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,130 Is there another reason why you'd create a false narrative? 1455 01:13:17,140 --> 01:13:19,360 I don't lie! 1456 01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:22,520 Saddam Hussein has mobile chemical... 1457 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,890 and biological weapons labs. 1458 01:13:23,890 --> 01:13:28,020 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists. 1459 01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:31,980 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other... 1460 01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:33,740 defectors and hear what they say. 1461 01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:35,710 They will all tell you the same thing. 1462 01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:41,990 Don't they all get their information from you? 1463 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,120 If you were wondering why it took so long for me... 1464 01:13:47,130 --> 01:13:52,640 to meet with you, it's this smug attitude. 1465 01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:56,720 You have no intention of reporting anything I've said. 1466 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,550 Do you want us to just be your cheerleaders? 1467 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,310 All right, I think we should go. 1468 01:14:01,310 --> 01:14:04,190 Thank you for your time. 1469 01:14:04,180 --> 01:14:08,640 Now I see why no one reads anything you write. 1470 01:14:08,650 --> 01:14:12,240 I am an advocate for the removal of a vicious dictator... 1471 01:14:12,230 --> 01:14:16,990 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally... 1472 01:14:16,990 --> 01:14:21,660 to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world. 1473 01:14:21,660 --> 01:14:25,750 And exactly how will this happen after Saddam Hussein is gone? 1474 01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:26,750 All right, come on, Landay. 1475 01:14:26,750 --> 01:14:29,210 No, no, no, he says the world will be better off... 1476 01:14:29,210 --> 01:14:30,330 but he doesn't say how. 1477 01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:32,760 How would the removal of Saddam Hussein... 1478 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,890 not plunge Iraq into a bloody civil war? 1479 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,210 Tell us something that makes sense... 1480 01:14:37,220 --> 01:14:43,730 anything that makes sense, and we'll write that story today. 1481 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,430 You can't! 1482 01:14:44,430 --> 01:14:46,810 Because you have no idea what happens next. 1483 01:14:46,810 --> 01:14:48,680 And neither does anyone else. John. John! 1484 01:14:48,690 --> 01:14:52,240 I would rather go back and write for my high school paper... 1485 01:14:52,230 --> 01:14:53,190 than to be used by you... 1486 01:14:53,190 --> 01:14:57,150 to sell the American public your bullshit. 1487 01:14:57,150 --> 01:14:58,530 All right. 1488 01:15:01,780 --> 01:15:05,160 By the way, it's Knight Ridder. 1489 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,910 Secretary of State Colin Powell will make the case... 1490 01:15:06,910 --> 01:15:10,870 against Iraq in a nationally televised address... 1491 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,720 to the UN Security Council. 1492 01:15:12,710 --> 01:15:14,710 Looks like they're bringing in the closer. 1493 01:15:14,710 --> 01:15:16,800 [REPORTER] Mr. Secretary, are you confident... 1494 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,550 you will make your case, sir? 1495 01:15:18,550 --> 01:15:19,340 You'll see. 1496 01:15:19,340 --> 01:15:21,430 What the hell game have we've been playing? 1497 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:24,760 All we did is piss into the wind. 1498 01:15:26,350 --> 01:15:28,680 We did ourjobs. 1499 01:15:28,690 --> 01:15:32,070 I should never have become a reporter. 1500 01:15:32,060 --> 01:15:36,230 Damn that Woodward and Bernstein. 1501 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,990 They took down a president whose biggest crime... 1502 01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:43,660 was trying to cover up some dirty political tricks. 1503 01:15:43,660 --> 01:15:46,280 This president's about to do the worst thing any president... 1504 01:15:46,290 --> 01:15:50,050 could do and he'll probably get re-elected. 1505 01:15:51,250 --> 01:15:54,130 To the democratic experiment. 1506 01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:58,010 [POWELL] Thank you, Mr. President. 1507 01:15:58,010 --> 01:16:00,390 My colleagues, every statement I make today... 1508 01:16:00,380 --> 01:16:04,720 is backed up by sources, solid sources. 1509 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,260 The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity... 1510 01:16:08,270 --> 01:16:12,150 of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction... 1511 01:16:12,150 --> 01:16:12,950 pose to the world. 1512 01:16:12,940 --> 01:16:16,560 It was a set up, the whole damn thing was a set up. 1513 01:16:16,570 --> 01:16:19,830 Tenet sent Powell a stack of files this high... 1514 01:16:19,820 --> 01:16:21,030 that supported the invasion. 1515 01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:22,740 Saddam Hussein is determined... 1516 01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:25,280 to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. 1517 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,280 Cheney sent Scooter Libby... 1518 01:16:26,290 --> 01:16:28,960 to push three main arguments in those files. 1519 01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:31,040 One: Saddam's human rights abuses... 1520 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,040 which everybody knew about. 1521 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,000 Two: his links to al Qaeda, which Powell... 1522 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,790 of course, threw right in the trash. 1523 01:16:35,790 --> 01:16:40,300 And the third focused on lraq's WMD. 1524 01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:42,550 Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons... 1525 01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:45,050 of mass destruction for a few more months or years... 1526 01:16:45,050 --> 01:16:49,140 is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world. 1527 01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:53,020 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer... 1528 01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:57,060 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files. 1529 01:16:57,070 --> 01:16:58,780 He threw out 80% of them. 1530 01:16:58,780 --> 01:16:59,990 At the end of the four days... 1531 01:16:59,990 --> 01:17:02,450 Powell looked Tenet right in the eye and said... 1532 01:17:02,450 --> 01:17:06,960 "George, can we stand by every word of this?" 1533 01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:14,040 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you." 1534 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,870 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George. 1535 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,090 "L'm glad you feel that way, 'cause you're going to be... 1536 01:17:18,090 --> 01:17:21,180 "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world." 1537 01:17:21,170 --> 01:17:25,840 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility... 1538 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,640 to the citizens of the countries... 1539 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,100 that are represented by this body. 1540 01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:34,060 Colin took one for the team. 1541 01:17:34,060 --> 01:17:35,520 Always the good soldier. 1542 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,850 [BUSH] Has the Iraqi regime fully... 1543 01:17:37,860 --> 01:17:40,780 and unconditionally disarmed? 1544 01:17:40,780 --> 01:17:44,120 The only acceptable outcome is the one already defined... 1545 01:17:44,110 --> 01:17:47,490 by a unanimous vote of the Security Council. 1546 01:17:47,490 --> 01:17:49,820 Total disarmament. 1547 01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:52,000 Great Britain, Spain and the United States have introduced.. 1548 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,760 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet... 1549 01:17:55,750 --> 01:18:02,590 the requirements of Resolution 1441. 1550 01:18:02,590 --> 01:18:06,340 This is a fact, it cannot be denied. 1551 01:18:06,340 --> 01:18:08,260 [REPORTER] And what harm would it do to give... 1552 01:18:08,260 --> 01:18:09,470 Saddam a final ultimatum? 1553 01:18:09,470 --> 01:18:12,300 A two or three day deadline to disarm or face force? 1554 01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:15,110 September the 11th changed the strategic thinking... 1555 01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:17,770 at least as far as I was concerned... 1556 01:18:17,770 --> 01:18:19,850 for how to protect our country. 1557 01:18:19,860 --> 01:18:24,950 My job is to protect the American people. 1558 01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:28,540 Used to be that we could think that you could contain... 1559 01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:29,660 a person like Saddam Hussein... 1560 01:18:29,660 --> 01:18:33,530 that oceans would protect us from his type of terror. 1561 01:18:33,540 --> 01:18:34,380 (PHONE RINGS ) 1562 01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:37,580 September the 11 th should say to the American people-- 1563 01:18:37,580 --> 01:18:39,040 Hello? 1564 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,380 You need to pack your bags. 1565 01:18:41,380 --> 01:18:43,670 Right. 1566 01:18:43,670 --> 01:18:46,590 In the hands of a terrorist organization... 1567 01:18:46,590 --> 01:18:49,590 could be deployed here at home. 1568 01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:54,050 King, John King. This is a scripted... 1569 01:18:54,060 --> 01:18:55,190 Thank you, Mr. President. 1570 01:18:55,180 --> 01:18:57,890 Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they-- 1571 01:18:57,890 --> 01:18:59,560 They think this is somehow personal? 1572 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,560 As Senator Kennedy put it tonight... 1573 01:19:01,610 --> 01:19:03,870 he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein... 1574 01:19:03,860 --> 01:19:05,900 is making the world a more dangerous place. 1575 01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:08,240 And as you prepare the American people for the possibility... 1576 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,280 of military conflict, could you share with us... 1577 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,660 any of the scenarios your advisors have shared... 1578 01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:15,990 with you about worst-case scenarios? 1579 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:24,010 You make sure the-- this country knows what's going on out there. 1580 01:19:24,460 --> 01:19:25,920 Yeah? I will. 1581 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,720 I swore to protect and defend the Constitution. 1582 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,590 He has weapons of mass destruction... 1583 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,150 and he has used weapons of mass destruction. 1584 01:19:36,140 --> 01:19:37,390 He has trained and financed... 1585 01:19:37,390 --> 01:19:39,560 al Qaeda-type organizations before. 1586 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,730 I take the threat seriously, and /'I/ deal with the threat. 1587 01:19:43,730 --> 01:19:46,900 I hope it can be done peacefully. 1588 01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:49,490 They hate what we stand for. 1589 01:19:49,490 --> 01:19:52,700 We love freedom, and we're not changing. 1590 01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:54,820 [REPORTER] Mr. President, millions of Americans can... 1591 01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:58,170 recall a time when leaders from both parties set this country.. 1592 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,120 on a mission of regime change in Vietnam. 1593 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,540 50,000 Americans died. 1594 01:20:02,540 --> 01:20:06,000 The regime is still there in Hanoi and it hasn't harmed... 1595 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,420 or threatened a single American in 30 years... 1596 01:20:08,420 --> 01:20:09,380 since the war ended. 1597 01:20:09,380 --> 01:20:12,050 What can you say tonight, sir, to the sons and daughters... 1598 01:20:12,050 --> 01:20:15,640 of the Americans who served in Vietnam to assure them that... 1599 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,930 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq? 1600 01:20:19,940 --> 01:20:22,240 [BUSH] That's a great question. 1601 01:20:22,230 --> 01:20:26,060 No doubt, there 's risks with any military operation. 1602 01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:26,780 I know that. 1603 01:20:26,780 --> 01:20:29,870 lt's a good thing he can draw on all that experience he got... 1604 01:20:29,860 --> 01:20:31,740 while not serving in the National Guard. 1605 01:20:31,740 --> 01:20:35,410 But it's very clear what we intend to do. 1606 01:20:35,410 --> 01:20:38,580 And our mission won 't change. 1607 01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:45,090 It could last, you know, six days, six weeks... 1608 01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:48,140 I doubt six months. 1609 01:20:48,130 --> 01:20:49,880 There 's a lot of money to pay for this... 1610 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,510 that doesn't have to be U. S. taxpayer money. 1611 01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:54,380 We're dealing with a country that can really finance... 1612 01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:57,060 its own reconstruction, and relatively soon. 1613 01:20:57,060 --> 01:20:59,570 There will always be some uncertainty... 1614 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,020 about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons... 1615 01:21:02,020 --> 01:21:05,310 but we don 't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. 1616 01:21:05,310 --> 01:21:06,980 [RUSSERT] Do you think the America people... 1617 01:21:06,980 --> 01:21:10,860 are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle... 1618 01:21:10,860 --> 01:21:12,730 with significant American casualties? 1619 01:21:12,740 --> 01:21:15,000 I don 't think it's likely to unfold that way, Tim... 1620 01:21:14,990 --> 01:21:17,200 because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators. 1621 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,200 [BLITZER] Six weeks after the war had begun, the President... 1622 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,120 is set to deliver a very carefully worded speech... 1623 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,830 on a carrier in the Pacific. 1624 01:21:24,830 --> 01:21:29,420 [BUSH] My fellow Americans, major combat operations... 1625 01:21:29,420 --> 01:21:30,840 in Iraq have ended. 1626 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,340 In the battle of Iraq, the United States... 1627 01:21:34,340 --> 01:21:38,010 and our allies have prevailed. 1628 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,680 (LOUD EXPLOSION ) 1629 01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:57,460 (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) 1630 01:22:19,390 --> 01:22:22,110 I want to go down there. 1631 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,000 They were the first to die. 1632 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,830 Were you there? 1633 01:22:52,710 --> 01:22:54,500 Thank you. 1634 01:22:59,510 --> 01:23:01,720 Thank you, son. 1635 01:23:14,030 --> 01:23:17,950 (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES) 1636 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,630 Jonathan, how did it feel, therefore... 1637 01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:11,250 to be the /one ho/douts in this pursuit of truth and fact? 1638 01:24:11,250 --> 01:24:14,540 It was very lonely and what made it actually one... 1639 01:24:14,540 --> 01:24:15,540 of the ironies is... 1640 01:24:15,550 --> 01:24:17,050 that every time we would write something... 1641 01:24:17,050 --> 01:24:20,220 the White House would say nothing, because we realized... 1642 01:24:20,220 --> 01:24:22,560 after a while that that would have been the best... 1643 01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:25,890 advertising for our stories we could have possibly asked for. 1644 01:24:25,890 --> 01:24:27,260 There's a problem with journalism... 1645 01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:28,440 in Washington, which is access. 1646 01:24:28,430 --> 01:24:30,470 And The New York Times and others had access to the top... 1647 01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:32,070 officials who were spinning this line. 1648 01:24:32,060 --> 01:24:33,560 We talked to those people, as well... 1649 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,150 but most of our reporting, Christiane... 1650 01:24:35,150 --> 01:24:37,310 was with intelligence, military... 1651 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:38,450 and diplomatic mid-Ievel-- 1652 01:24:38,440 --> 01:24:39,650 Lower le vel? Lower level. 1653 01:24:39,650 --> 01:24:41,740 The types journalists don 't normally talk to or go after. 1654 01:24:41,740 --> 01:24:43,950 Can I just give a little credit, also, to the man... 1655 01:24:43,950 --> 01:24:46,110 who was our boss at the time, John Walcott. 1656 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,340 Higher levels of civilization... 1657 01:24:48,330 --> 01:24:50,410 must depend even more heavily... 1658 01:24:50,460 --> 01:24:53,880 on a conscientious respect forNthe importance of honesty... 1659 01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,930 and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn... 1660 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:03,420 concern for accuracy in determining what the facts are. 1661 01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:08,360 We need to find some way to cover the world so that... 1662 01:25:08,350 --> 01:25:11,060 we know what's happening out there... 1663 01:25:11,060 --> 01:25:12,850 that we know the truth about it... 1664 01:25:12,850 --> 01:25:17,770 so we can avoid mistakes... 1665 01:25:17,770 --> 01:25:20,360 mistakes like Iraq. 1666 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,150 The intelligence was what it was. 1667 01:25:22,150 --> 01:25:23,940 You know, people like me couldn't make it up. 1668 01:25:23,950 --> 01:25:26,250 [STEWART] The intelligence wasn't what it was... 1669 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,660 and not everybody got it wrong. 1670 01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:31,870 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder. 1671 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,590 ( SOFT MUSIC PLAYING ) 134958

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