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Yes, it's the first ever interactive quiz on Disney Plus Hotstar for Coffee

Karan. Answer some super fun questions about the show and you get a chance to

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Yeah, because the time is right.

Because the time is now.

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Because the time is now.

Now, now, that's what you say. You said you could move. It's the time of the

hero now.

Hello,

hello and welcome back to Coffee with Karan. Fun fact, now that I've turned 25

in the industry, it's safe to say my first film is most probably older than a

lot of you watching right now.

Sad fact.

But well, fun fact for sure. But well done, Karan. In a couple of decades,

you've somehow managed to direct seven feature films.

Clap, clap, clap.

Whenever you've had some time off from shooting eight seasons of this show.

And to celebrate exactly that tonight, it's all about turning back the clock.

My guests tonight are two solid women who are all shades of relatable on the

face of super mega stardom. One of them literally redefined the genre romance on

Indian celluloid for a whole generation.

While the other...

let's just say, is the Rani of the romantics. The last time they graced

couch together, there were some long silences. But something tells me that

today, with these motormouths back in full form, raised to the power of

infinity, today it's going to be the two chatterjis, chatter, get it, versus

poor little me.

Please welcome back on the couch, the OGs, my first leading ladies, Rani

Mukherjee and Kajol.

Welcome back.

Welcome back, my dear girls.

Yes, we are girls. And we shall remain girls. I mean, you know, on this show,

% of the time, one tries to keep it real. One tries to kind of be... Oh,

One minute. Humble is not your middle name. I'm saying real. I wasn't praising

myself. I was like, I'm trying to kind of have some kind of a... You watched

Coffee with Karan? She's not letting me talk. Last seven seasons?

I was trying to get to something that... Humble...

I was trying to say, and if you cut me this time, I swear I will punish you.

I'm saying that normally we put on a talk show face. But with the two of you

who've known me like three decades, it's a bit tough to strike a false note,

really. So already right before we started, Rani said, why did you pick up

Ranveer Singh's call? We are here. And she already started on that note. And

then you screamed at him for no reason. Not!

Screamed at him for no reason. We are both waiting for you to put the phone

to start the show. That's a bit much. It's highly unprofessional. I just want

tell you that.

FYI. And I said bye very sweetly.

But obviously, he was looking hot.

I will say.

Date on your own time instead?

I'm not dating Ranveer Singh, please.

I was just like, leave it there. Why am I getting teary -eyed?

Is it because of this conversation?

I know.

No. Or I'm just rather tired and my eyes are watering.

Oh, you're tired of this conversation?

How, bitchy?

Okay,

listen. I want to go back to the beginning where it all began.

So day one, the day I shot with both of you, there were two interesting

incidents that happened.

One was, you called me to the van. You said something quite sweet to me. You

said, you know, Karan, you're a bit like soft.

You know, you will get intimidated. It's a big set. You need to show you're in

control. You're the director. Though you're only 24 years old. So why don't

scream at me loudly?

And if you manage to do that, everybody will be like, whoa, you have to take

this director seriously. He screamed at Kaja loudly.

So I just thought it was quite sweet that, you know, you offered that. Though

didn't land up screaming at you because I thought it would be a bit much if I

day one start screaming at a...

Such a huge movie star.

Right in the middle of it. We were shooting Kohi Mil Gaya, the song. You

scream, but you hit me.

I didn't hit you. Don't say such things. It's not considered appropriate. I

didn't hit you. It was abuse.

We'll talk about that later. No, no, no.

Can we finish the second thing? I want to expose you. No, you won't.

I like this show already. One minute.

I love this. But we'll get to that. I want you to speak about it.

But... The second thing that happened is that those were the days that none of

us rehearsed, right? For the song, dance, moves, everyone arrived. There

such thing as a rehearsal hall.

There was one and I think Rani is the only one because she was new and young.

No, I did it later also. Yeah, yeah, but she went and rehearsed all the steps.

Now we were taking this top wide shot with Farah Khan in command, in control.

And it was a signature step of Koi Mil Gaya, Koi Mil Gaya, that one. And we

taking a wide shot and suddenly like... cut happened and you looked at Rani at

that time. Kajal looked at Rani and said, what are you doing?

You know, so what are you doing? Something wrong you're doing. And Shah

also said, yes, something is wrong.

And they both looked like that.

Loudly blaring from afar, Farah said, she is the only one doing it right.

Y 'all are all doing rubbish.

And then...

Frequently, both Shah Rukh and Kajal went to Rani, who had become the

choreographer, teaching them the step. It was hilarious because one thing

happened. Of course, it was a moment of great entertainment and joy.

Along with that, I think, Rani, it kind of gave you that flush of energy and

confidence because they were looming large movie stars. Absolutely. You were

the frame with them. And suddenly, I felt like your body language shifted and

changed. And then we went on to shoot the entire film. But that day one, for

these two reasons, I will always remember.

You were saying something. I know I made snatch food of you. table.

Not table, from my hand.

You snatch food from my hand, you hit me. I didn't hit you, Rani.

So much abuse.

Please don't say these things.

Don't take it. You don't need to take it.

Tell them what I meant. Those were different days.

Those were different days.

They were.

Because I had told Rani that we have to wear the short skirt in Mauritius. So

just lose some weight because you have to wear.

She said, I'll lose about four or five kilos. So she did. Four or five kilos

happened. They were not lost.

They were put on.

I was like, how is she going to wear this short orange shirt? No, actually it

was not only you. I think Manish was with you. But Manish was much kinder.

So then we instructed the room service not to give you any food.

And Rani's mother, Krishna aunty was in on this. I don't know whether I want to

laugh or not. You tell me. The room service will call.

Tell me. No food.

Juhati has said this? Yeah. She was very in on it. And then poor thing was

eating something she was eating.

Breakfast. Breakfast.

First meal of the day. It's supposed to be very healthy for you. And what did I

do? You just said, you can't eat this. And you just slashed the plate from my

hand.

And then there was one scene where Shah Rukh and I had planned. It was at Film

City. Yeah. The Mandir. Yeah. The Mandir at Film City. The Mandir scene. Yeah.

And then? And then you say, because you're the director of the film. So she

not getting the timing of something for you.

That line, Rahul Khanna Har Tuesday Mandir Aata Hai. I see, or something

that she had to say. And Shah Rukh had a rhythm in which he wanted her to say

it. I had a rhythm. Clearly we were not caring about her rhythm. We were

bothered about our rhythm. And at one point, I see Shah Rukh's little pinching

and sitting and listening.

And I also came... No, no, you didn't pinch me.

I think Shah Rukh hit me or you hit me. No, what are you saying?

Either you hit me like this on the hand. I didn't know about all this. Why did

you hide it for so long?

I would have helped you, babe.

I'm on your side. You were of no help to her.

I want to tell you, you were of no help to her. I was of no help to anybody at

that point of time, but continue.

You are not helping her, that's for sure.

But yes, I'm sorry if it's just to get that... No, but Karan, don't get

I'm just joking. And I hope people who are watching this show should take it as

a joke. Because it was not really a hit. It was like a... Pat. Piyar se pat.

Piyar wala pat. But the pinch was real.

And the snatching of the food was real. I'm asking everyone for forgiveness. It

was just a grace. No, but Karan, there is an innate goodness inside you. So

happened is you snatched the plate from me. But you gave it back to me right

back. Oh, I did. Yes, you did. No, see, I'm going to say the memory that I have

of Kuch Kuch Hota, about you especially.

I thought you were extremely gracious, you were extremely kind, and you were

very fair with me.

And I think for me as a newcomer, that instilled a lot of confidence and

instilled a lot of goodness.

about the industry people at that point of time. Because I was starting off. It

was my third film.

Also, it's important to say, one is saying it, that one kept your voice.

prior to that, prior to that, in Ghulam, and one is saying it, that one

kept your voice. No, no, I think more than one, more than one, I think the

that Karan was very innocent at that point of time.

And he was really sweet. He was this real good boy. And now?

Naughty.

Naughty?

No, but I was going... I think, Karan, you were very gracious. And I think you

were very intelligent, of course.

You know, the way you handled the set, the way you were on set, you were very

loving, not only towards your actors, but you were loving towards each and

member of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai Remember.

There were days when, you know, Yash uncle would come and complain to my mom

about you and say that, you know, Karan is spending so much money.

Mera beta kya kar raha hai?

And I can imagine Yash uncle. You know, because every person used to go to Karan

and say, Karan, can I do this? Do I need a little more money? And Karan, without

blinking, he would just... Help anyone and anybody on that set. Because he was

so loving and giving. But you're loving and giving even now. So that aspect of

yours hasn't changed. I'm loving and giving but no one's taking.

But I want to tell you about Papa.

At that time, you mentioned Papa just now. So I remember we were shooting Kuch

Kuch Hotai again, the same schedule. And my father, for some reason, mobiles

were new. And he had that big, heavy phone in his hand. And he was outside

Mehboob Studios on the road talking. Because obviously, network was a thing

those days. And Sanju, Sanjay Dutt was driving. And he said, Yassi, what are

doing here? So he says, my son has set up.

I'm on the road.

That is such a Yash uncle joke.

He was like, at the end of the day, he was like, where are you going for

shopping? For clothes? I said, Papa, Manish and I want to go to London.

So, Manish and I want to go to London. So, I want to tell you the funniest

ever. We decided to go to London to shop for something.

For Anjali and Tina's clothes. By the way, the red jumpsuit you're

wearing is actually from Baby Gap.

I'm just saying.

Those were the days when I fit into baby clothes.

So it was the funniest because Adi, as in your husband, was setting up Yash Raj

Films in the UK.

And Anil Thadani at that time was his partner. So we had taken an apartment

two bedrooms, you know, two bedrooms at that time because I was shopping with

Manish and they were setting up the Yash Raj office.

So the guy who was the concierge of that building at one point looked at Adi and

Anil. Because first in the morning, Adi and Anil in corporate clothes used to

leave. And then me and Manish with our shopping bags used to go.

So the concierge said to Adi once, y 'all are both such lovely couple.

Y 'all take such good care of your husbands.

We looked like we were those, you know, the partners.

Hey, our husband is going to do all the work and his two friends, wives, are

going to shop to waste their money.

Are these things?

Adi's face was in shock.

Because Adi, firstly we were talking about 1987, a different universe.

And then he said, you both are such love couples.

So I wanted to ask, but who do you think is my... I was like, I want Adi then.

Anil and Mani.

It was hilarious.

It was really looking strange to me.

I'm buying girls' clothes.

I'm buying girls' clothes. Whatever.

I mean, now, again, we're going another. But, you know, the experience on that

film, I have so many memories. And I always believe first films are special

that. We celebrate 25 years this year. We missed you when we did some theatre

visits. And it was crazy how people were... I missed it too.

How people were applauding the film, watching it after 25 years.

At that point of time, let's go back in time. So the two of you now I've been

seeing recently, families are so close. But at that time, you all didn't have a

close friendship or a relationship at all, right? You were not close to Rani

all. Not really. Though you all were family, there was no rishta and you

actually kept like a silent distance from her also. I used to wonder what

of family is this that we're talking to each other.

Like I was like, I thought both are cousins, both are mukharji.

It'll all be good. But was there a distance just organically or you just

close to that side of the family?

Did you feel that there was a distance at that time when you worked with her?

Yeah. Yeah. Of course, because I've known her as a kid. Yeah. And she's

casual didi for me.

And yeah, it was a bit strange, but I...

I guess when you grow up and you, like, grow apart, you don't really know the

reason why. Yeah. Because you don't meet that often because Kajal Didi used to

stay in town and we were in Juhu. Yeah. Me and Tanisha were much closer and we

are still closer.

But Kajal Didi was always closer to the boys of the family, like my brother and

Shyamrata and all of them. Yeah. So it was a bit strange. But then...

Yeah. What do you say about it now? Yeah, I know. I mean, it was then. But

you remember the time where you actually built a relationship?

Do you remember when it happened in the last cup? I've seen this in the last

five years now. I think it started with Pooja.

No, I think more after our...

Dad's past, I think.

It's more from that time. Yeah. I think from the time her dad passed or my dad

passed, I think that's what happens to families, you see. It's just an organic

thing that you come closer, you meet up more. Yeah, because as families, when

you actually lose your loved ones, and I was very close to Kajal's dad, you

know, because Shomu Kaka was literally, mostly every day at my place, you know.

When you go through tough times, when you go through...

you know loss in the family in terms of you know people you love i think that's

when everybody comes closer i think like you rightfully said i said tough times

when you lose a loved one that you kind of set a relationship there is a

difference when you're 17.

And when you're like 40, you grow wiser as people. You also

learn to not bother about the little things in life. And it's always the

things. Like when Tanisha finally came home, you know, three, four years after

my marriage. And she came home and what we actually spoke was, why was there a

distance? And we both questioned each other, what was the reason? And I told

Tanisha, I said, I really don't know.

And she was like, even I don't know why this really happens. Sometimes, you

know, because you don't end up discussing it, it just happens. Yeah,

think people take advantage of that. You know, people from the outside and they

talk too much and they try and make distance even grow further apart. You

you'll seldom find people who want people to come together.

You'll always see people wanting to break people even further. I've seen

because...

In the two, two and a half, two years that Kajal and I didn't speak, which was

heartbreaking part of both of our lives.

We won't discuss what happened because it's all in the past and we are like the

same. Like we've always were. Kajal is a piece of my heart, will always be.

And what about me?

I'm talking about you. You are in the heart along with her.

I remember at that time, did you realize that there were people who were

actually feeding...

fire into us who weren't talking to each other that's what she said i kind of

believe that yes absolutely and um how are they gaining out of it no one knows

it's only the drama it's only the drama but honestly i'm not going to get into

this i don't want to discuss this topic anymore it's over yeah And it's done

with. Yeah. And we're not rehashing this.

No, we're not. You did it. You rehashed it once on national television. We are

not redoing that. No, no, I'm not getting into that.

I was not. I was actually agreeing with that. I'm not. Sorry.

Thank you very much. I was not.

Apologize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I was actually going to get to your husbands because it's actually quite

interesting how both of them have a lot in common.

In terms of, they're very different people, of course, but they're both very

-key. One is not a key only.

I can't call him a key because low -key is still a place to be.

Sir Aditya Chopra is not on the keyboard.

He's not there. He's not a figment of anybody's imagination also. I just want

tell people that he exists.

He's real.

ajay he doesn't go out he doesn't socialize i always see kajal you're the

that represents the family and i you go to all the functions pick up his awards

go to the parties you do that amazingly and without any kind of like jijak or

like that you do it because you know that he's not going to go you have to

represent

At that point of time, what is your feeling? You're like, oh, man, why am I

doing it? Or you feel like this is family. Well, the better half has

That's my feeling 90 % of the time.

And the better looking half has arrived as well.

So then let everyone just enjoy that. Exactly. I also think that it's really,

you know, why force it on somebody? There are some things as a couple that,

know, he does better.

And there are some things that I do better.

What does he do better?

Lots of things. I won't get into the details of that. One of the things that

do better is attend shows, attend this thing, look better.

You're looking great and it's good. You are representing the family as are you.

Because at least here, sir is reaching somewhere.

There, sir is not visible to the world. No, but actually I'm happy about that.

Because when I got married to Adi, I knew everything about him and how he is.

And I think I like that aspect about him. I don't think I would have liked

more if he was going everywhere.

Maybe I wouldn't have married him. So then you don't like me because I go

everywhere? No, you are different now, Karan. You are my brother. Yeah.

He's your husband.

He's my husband. If he's out of the room, then where will I get to spend

with him?

Because half the time he's in Yash Raj.

Brothers you can meet on and off, right? Yes, yes. Husbands you want every day.

Okay. I mean, Adi is going to kill us if we talk about him anymore. Let's talk

about today.

Both of you are doing incredible work. Congratulations on Mrs. Strategy versus

Norway. I was one of the privileged people to see it before the world did.

remember calling you and telling you that you hit it out of the park.

and what a performance truly spectacular congratulations and kajal you've

enveloped so much incredible work you know when i see your work in trial so

movies that you've done and you're just working one after the other now and i'm

glad to see you back on celluloid on television screens on the digital domain

like you are a fantastic actor and it's so wonderful to see lots of you this has

obviously happened now because your kids have grown up and you are this amazing

mom. Obviously, you feel like the bachas are all grown up now and they can very

much make individual decisions.

I don't have two children anymore. I have one adult and I have one teenager.

So, yeah, both of them are, they have very much a life of their own. They're

pretty much, you know, doing their own thing. So, yes, I feel like now I can

take that time out and work and get back on set. Absolutely.

All right. We, of course, my kids are really close to Adira.

And I'm so glad because legacy friendships are my favorite friendships.

Yash uncle and my dad were close friends. Adi and I are best friends. And

kids, they do a taekwondo class. Class together. And my kids love Adira. Adira

loves them. She's almost like that oldest sibling to both Yash and Ruhi.

you're very protective in a correct manner, I would say, about Adira. Like

Adira, nobody has ever got a photograph of her ever.

I want to know that I respect. But how do you manage this?

I tell them. You tell them. Don't take baby's picture. And they look at my eyes

and they get scared.

Why? What are those eyes saying that scare them? That they know. Like right

the time Adira was born, I think, and I have to thank all the paparazzi and all

the media people. They really, I think, love me because they kind of respected

that. And they know how Adi is.

And it was...

our decision together that we didn't want Adira to be photographed because we

have a different idea of how we want to raise Adira so that Adira doesn't feel

privileged or she doesn't feel very special in school and she feels like any

other kid and she doesn't get extra attention and that was something that

and me wanted for her and that would only happen if she would not be

photographed.

So I think it was the first year when, of course, I was traveling with Adira

going out of the country. And I told them, I said, please, baby ka photo mat

lije. And from that day, they kind of respected that. And all this while,

whenever I travel, they always wait till Adira goes into the airport.

And then they take my pictures.

So the other thing I want to ask, which I know you may not want to reveal.

You come out of the airport and get clicked, as do you.

Which exit does Adi take?

He takes the same exit.

No, it's not possible.

Everybody knows. He takes another flight. Everyone has seen the romantics.

Aditya Chopra is a face that everybody recognizes. They've loved the romantics,

seen it. But which exit? Because I've never seen them even take a photograph

mistake. Can you tell us the secret route?

maybe we can also adopt at times no actually he is um i think really simple

he moves around so he he gets missed yeah i think so and you obviously he

you go out first yeah adira and me leave first there's a whole strategy moving

here like i'm like what's going on because i keep seeing yeah i'm actually

the honeybee you know

So I have to make way for my child and my husband.

Okay.

You know, of course, needless to say, we go back to Kuch Kuch Hotay where it all

began. Our lives, my life began. And both of you, such pivotal parts in the

film. Do you know, it's one of the most discussed films of the year. Like, it's

been 25 years. It's been memed. It influences us today.

like across the board talk about it like literally the lines that we just wrote

or it was just written like who knew that would be a pop culture line uh

you know or excuse me or that rani would be called a serial killer yeah that

that so there's a yeah that there's a guy called karan mirchandani who said

that actually murder mystery

So, yeah, we'll see.

So, we went to some young influencers.

Like, they're an entire generation, two generations younger than us.

But the film is so impressionable. But you don't have to, like, spell it out

like that, no? That they're two generations younger.

Okay, we don't have to.

Sorry,

sorry. You said 25 years, that's enough. No, that's enough. I told you already.

I want you to watch some fun things that some of them said. I think you're going

to enjoy it. Let's have a look.

Happy 25th birthday to Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. Congratulations, Kuch Kuch Hota

Aap badi hogi hain. Aapki shaadi ki umar ho chahiye. Daheg mein aapko 8 chikkiya

mili. That's all it is. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai turns 25.

An epic film that changed pop culture. There were some great songs, there were

some great dialogues. And this was also Karan's debut as a filmmaker.

Big fan of Anjali.

So upset with herself.

Has short hair.

Will do anything to get boys' attention.

Play basketball, do his homework.

Hardly. Anjali, work you, will be you, will always make sure that I will be you

and all my daughters will be you. I have spent at least 3 % of my parents' net

worth on friendship bands.

I had tried so hard for the last 25 years to find Shah Rukh Khan's polo

shirt to wear to the gym. But you, Tina...

You, the OG hot girl, the girl who wore that short orange skirt and entered the

college and changed everything.

But you came from London with your no British accent attitude.

You proved that whatever comes from London, whatever comes from Britain, it

takes over.

I had a daughter just so she could help me find my soulmate.

I currently have 16 daughters across various summer camps in India. Also,

you were the one who mocked Anjali the most when she wore that pink -colored

costume with the pink -colored lipstick and the pink -colored hairband. Hey,

man, she was the OG Barbie, okay? And you turned out to be a very bad carry.

did you do that? You were the first one to do that. You could have stopped

everyone without coming, right? Please don't hit my friend. Ashina, I still

you. I must say, something has completely ruined my life.

Because now I find it extremely dissatisfying to be friends with someone

a little sexual tension between us. That you won't understand.

Exactly, sir.

I won't understand.

But biggest problem of Kuch Kuch Huda is the plot point that did not work for

me. Riffaz B so nice. No landlady or hostel warden is so nice.

So Riffaz B was too nice to all the girls. In fact, Riffaz B wanted Anjali

quote unquote That's fun with Rahul. When was the last time a garden or a

landlady told you to do that? Three things I cannot wrap my head around in

movie. One, Kajol has basically invented ASMR when she goes like... Why

couldn't Rani Mukherjee just leave an email address for Kajol? Or just

like... Hey, here's the phone number, Anjali. You can contact Anjali here.

This was her previous residential address.

Why did Tina think it was a good idea to interest her 8 -year -old with getting

her dad laid?

What is wrong with her? I mean, at 8, Choti Anjali, I was kind of eating mud.

It's about time you guys invest in a dating app called Anjali that is

exclusively for children to help them find good matches for their parents.

There were two love triangles in three hours in this film.

Why wasn't the film called Bohot Kuch Hota Hai? Sorry Karan, it's 2023 and

you're not directing the film, I am.

So basically, Tina kind of lives on in a polyamorous relationship with Rahul and

Anjali. And the three of them have like a really cute life together.

And I feel like everybody has thought of them as a trio of lovers.

And I've just had the courage to say it. So that's my ending. Thank you. In my

version of the film, Anjali will stay put with Aman because that relationship

making so much more sense to me. I feel like Aman has invested quite a lot of

time in that relationship. And it does look like a big green flag.

So I don't think Rahul and Anjali are really ending up together.

Because when Rahul did not see Anjali that first time around, I don't think he

deserves to see her the way she is the second time around. Because Anjali has

done a lot of work on herself and evolved.

Rahul and Anjali conspired to kill Tina to get her wealth.

Then they wrote the letters to kid Anjali so that kid Anjali would think it

her idea to bring them together.

It's a perfect murder.

This is my alternate ending for the film.

So...

Kajol actually poisoned Rani Mukherjee. It's an untraceable poison.

Everybody thought it was cancer, but it wasn't. Kajol is the killer.

And at the end of the movie, when they're getting married, Kajol puts the

in Shah Rukh's... Yeah, she puts the hair in Shah Rukh's neck and then she

to the camera and smiles.

And then young Anjali... I like this version, Karan. Let's make it. Look, we

spend a lot of time criticising things about Kuch Kuch Hota and pointing out

flaws in it and all these plot holes and...

I just think it is a film made with so much love and conviction that, and it

believes in every ridiculous thing that it's doing. Like, he wrote eight letters

for his daughter and she can't read seven of them almost, right?

But that's the beauty of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. It's the belief. It's that love

triumphs in the end. And I think that's what endures, you know, 25 years later.

I love the dupatta at the end, actually. Oh, God. You know, when I've spoken

about the film, I know you fired me a couple of times and said that you just

stop trying to kind of like, you know, apologize for some of the gender

or something. Because that was a different time. Like, you know, it was a

different... I learned from Hindi cinema. So whatever the film had, it was

me like thinking inappropriately. It was just that what my mind was trained to

be. Just shut up. You have something to say? No.

You're giving me those looks. That's why I'm asking. Because you're just sitting

and defending something that we did 25 years ago. back which actually did well

no no i'm very proud of my first thank you very much you went on an interview

recently and you said some very entertaining things uh i have to say one

entertaining things were like when when somebody asks you why when are you going

to do a mature love story and you said only the women mature the men just keep

getting younger why is it that when we are asked this question it's about

maturity but the leading men are allowed to like prance around with girls Less

than half their age.

Is that a truth of life? It is. Not of life. I think it's the truth of cinema.

And not particularly cinema of the world, but I think Indian cinema. I

it's the truth of society, honestly.

I mean, you see men who have... The sins also just replicate what is happening

in reality.

Exactly. You have older men having younger wives and nobody raises an

Yeah. But at the same... And let me be honest, this has been happening since

time immemorial. You've had 30 -year -old men getting married to 13 -year

girls for like God knows how many, like hundreds of years.

Yeah. And yeah, I guess it's a... But then if there's an older woman and a

younger man, then it becomes... So it's always the men who have this privilege

of continuously playing the leading man. No, I don't... You know, I think it's

what we want to accept and what we don't want to accept.

So I think it comes from a collective thought process that has been told to us

from childhood.

And that is what we're following because we're not using our brain.

No, but like as she rightfully said, like when you get offered a film, it's

the mother role, the mature love story. No, it's not happened to me. No, but

actually it is. I mean, it's the truth. It is not true to the men who like don't

want to suddenly like.

They don't want to age.

Interestingly, though, when you said it's been happening, Shah Rukh Khan did

play father in our film. He was 32 years old and there was no problem. But today

you ask a 32 year old if they will play a father. I played a mom when I was 27

years old. Yes, but it's not the case today. Right. Like it is like when you

offered the roles, it's always like you feel like I would say that the industry

can be ageist.

You know, it's like, you know, not kind to... Anu, I don't think it's only the

industry. Let's not be harsh on the industry. I think industry does what

expect, whether it will be accepted by the audience or not. But how do we know?

The audience may just very well accept a love story.

It would be lovely to see a Shah Rukh Kajal romance today.

Like, why wouldn't we want to see it? Because a filmmaker like you is not

it.

And cut to next question.

I have been put in my place. Thank you very much. Segment number three begins.

I think before anything else... Let's take a break.

No.

Let's just get the hell out of here and run out. While we know we're all

shooting at Wirehead Studios, so this is pretty much Malkin Studio and she can

throw me out.

You're not even reducing the AC. Yeah, because Malkin said that we can't reduce

the AC.

Hey, she said like that.

What?

Such lies. You all are like...

We're on camera. This is really fun and fantastic. And it's really a grand

coffee date I'm having with both of you. And some very exciting conversations

are happening on this couch.

But it's time to play some games.

I actually really like your couch.

It's lovely.

A lot of exciting things have happened on this couch. What?

Like? Like what?

Like conversations.

Why do you all have that dirty mind?

All right. It's now fun time. It's quiz time. We get to play a game and let's

see who's good at... This is how well do you know your films and how well do you

know your husband's filmographies as well. All right.

Can you dabow your... So you're the Tweety bird and you are the... You have

press... You're the woodpecker.

You're the woodpecker and you're the Tweety. So you must understand... Just

because it's coffee with Karan, I'm just taking it.

The woodpecker.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Woodpecker, yeah.

This is the thumb. Yeah, yeah. Here goes. This is the Rani and Kajal quiz.

Rani and Kajal quiz. Are you ready?

God. All right. Here goes.

How many films have Shah Rukh and Kajal done together as a lead pair? I'm giving

you options.

Six, seven, eight, nine.

Six. Wrong. You get a chance.

Seven. Right. You just guessed. But it is seven films. All right.

One point to you, zero to you. All right.

Another math question for both of you.

Let me just finish this and go home. Okay.

Another math question.

Juhi holds the record of having done the maximum number of films with Charu

Khan. How many films? Your options are nine, ten, eleven.

Ten. Wrong. You? Eleven. Wrong. Nine.

Nine minutes. No,

you're not even counting in your head and doing any thought process. Just

anything or nothing.

Okay. You're going to win with just one?

Kajal, stop it.

Kajal. You're going to win with just that one right answer.

Okay.

Kajal, come on.

Ask us questions that we have answers to. One Rani film.

One Rani Mukherjee film. Kajal has made a special appearance in.

Kal Ho Na Ho.

Wrong.

Kank. You get it now. Kank. Kank. No.

I pressed it and I gave the answer. I gave the answer. Your first answer is

answer. I said kank. I said kank. I get this.

Your first answer is the answer. Just keep quiet.

I can't bear this. Can I answer this? No. It is done now.

Yeah, you said better. Okay. One casual film.

I said. No, you.

Baba, it doesn't get transferred.

Of course it gets transferred. It does not get transferred. These are my rules,

my game. Yeah, one, one. She gets it. No, but I'm not giving her that point.

One, one, one. You can give her the point. You are not the master of

One minute. One casual film. Hey, give me an empty mark.

Give me an empty mark.

Are you going to assault me? Yeah, she is. Yes.

Here's the question. One Kajol film in which Rani had a special appearance.

How are you so stupid that you don't know this answer? It's Kabhi Khushi

Gham.

Meaning she was the girl Charu wanted.

Special appearance. Of course she was a special appearance.

Oh.

Okay. Now.

You know you're not really stupid.

I don't know. Next question.

Name the Rani Mukherjee film that is named after a color.

Black. Correct. Thank God.

Named after a poisonous eight -legged creature.

Which two?

Yes.

Correct.

Kajal, you were right. You didn't beep, but it was Bichu. Yeah.

Is it right? Yeah.

You all know nothing about it. It's good to know.

I know.

But you didn't taste.

But I said it. I get two now.

Poisonous creature. I was like, what is this?

Poisonous.

It's not eight legs, by the way.

Bichu is a copy and he doesn't have eight legs.

He has four legs.

But you said Bikshu when I said hate land. But the point is that I meant

when it came out, Bikshu.

I meant to say spider.

Okay,

next.

You wanted to say muck.

I wanted to say muck when Bikshu came out.

A Shah Rukh Khan film. And you have to press the button. A Shah Rukh Khan film

where both.

Where both of you had a special appearance.

No, Om Shanti Om.

I know, Shanti, but she said come on, of course. It's right. All right. Guess

the following film titles with their English translation.

Never Say Goodbye.

Kabhi Alveda Na Kena. Correct.

But I pressed the buzzer. No, no. But she answered with a buzzer. But I

the buzzer. No, but not. I thought I was supposed to press the buzzer. What the

half? Ha ha.

What?

What?

What?

What the heart must do.

What the heart must do. What the heart must do. What the heart

must do.

Which of the following is not a real movie title? It's not a real movie

Not

correct.

The second is...

11 ,000 boys.

Wrong. Two boys. I said two boys.

Both of you are wrong. The film that is not a film is Balma, item number one.

What? I'm registering it. All right. And now, guess the

movies from their plot. A driver's... Stop, babe. One second.

Gosh.

A driver's daughter becomes a model and finds herself in a love triangle with

the two sides of her... Yeah. Press it, na?

Yeah. Okay.

A small town pair of con artists... Correct.

No, I got it. I said Bunty or Wubbly. I said Bunty or Wubbly. You said it. And

the last one.

An introverted man falls in love with the daughter of his former professor

a vivacious dancer.

What? Lolita.

Lolita. How

can

you describe it like that?

Now y 'all are both Thai and now the tiebreaker question is my famous

What is the name of the dog in Hamaapke Hai Kaun? Fluffy.

It is toughy and toughy. It is not fluffy, toughy.

The worst played quiz in the history of coffee. We played very well.

We played fabulously well. You keep quiet. Thank you.

She has been, she has called it fluffy.

All right, it's time.

If you're throwing a challenge my way.

Never. Take them.

Take the hamper. I want you to fight for it, Rani. Where's your fighting spirit?

In the movies.

I'm going to now use my new Google Pixel 8 Pro to ask you the rapid fire

question. Oh, it's been upgraded now. First you had those cards. Yes. So we

long time back.

May I continue, ma 'am? Of course, sir.

Sar pe rakha hai taj mere yashraj. Can I continue?

Haan, Dharma.

Okay, we have a lounge full of young minds who will be the judge and jury.

are these people? Can we meet them? Oh, hi.

Hi. So this is the judge and jury. They are sitting in the lounge and they're

going to vote light for you. All right.

Let's turn on the Jaguar lights for the rapid fire round. Turn on the Jaguar

lights. All right. Now I have to change my glasses because... One is for style,

one is for reading. One is for old age.

No, don't say that. In my order, it says casual first. So are you ready? Ready.

Yes.

I just want to tell you guys that whatever happens... I'm talking to my

and jury.

Just speaking to you guys, I just want to tell you all that I will definitely

entertaining you more.

Hence and therefore.

Okay. Yes or no, do you think you're the best heroine in the romance genre

Bollywood has seen in the last three decades?

Yes. Which new pair has the on -screen chemistry to potentially be the next

Kajal?

That's my answer.

That expression is your answer?

Okay. An advantage that actresses of the 90s had over the actresses of today?

We knew how to act without monitors.

One thing the new generation of actors have that your generation of actors

have benefited from? Social media.

If Kajal came with a disclaimer, what would it say?

Believe me, because even when I'm joking, I'm telling you the truth.

Alright, what's the weirdest thing a Bollywood celebrity has told you?

Please come on my show.

I'm doing coffee with Karan. Please come on my show.

That's the weirdest thing someone has told you? Thank you.

Do you believe that love happens once and marriage too?

Absolutely not.

I definitely don't believe it. Alright, complete the sentence. When it comes to

me, nobody has the audacity to... Do anything, period.

The one thing I miss about how the industry was back in the 90s is?

Is a sense of camaraderie that I feel is not there anymore.

All right. The most challenging part about being married to another actor?

We have to match our dates.

Okay. An old rumor about you that you can now confirm is true.

Oh, there were no rumors about me. Everything was pretty much the truth.

Okay. A social media tip that you got from your daughter, Nisa? She put me on

Instagram, actually.

Alright. That's a big tip to give. Yes. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. Which

Bollywood actor comes to your mind when I take the following film title?

Hero number one.

Oh, that title will, I think, always belong to Govinda.

No two ways about it. Nobody can beat him.

Queen. Rekha.

Total Dhamal.

Ranveer Singh.

Okay. A role you turned down that later became a huge hit.

Oh, quite a few roles, actually. There was Three Idiots. Yeah. Mora.

Dil Toh Pagal Hai. Yeah.

A piece of advice for girls entering the industry today would be?

I would say that embrace your individuality because that's what makes

Everything else is taken.

Which Bollywood diva will always be relevant?

I think currently I would say Zeenat Aman for sure because she's

awesome. She's true, she's passionate and she's real in a very, very fake

I couldn't agree more. Her Instagram is fantastic. Fabulous.

Lastly, an Ajay Devgan film you would have loved to be a part of? Hum Dil De

Chuke Sanam, Omkara, Golmaal, Singham.

I don't know whether I would have loved to be a part of it.

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall on the first part of Golmaal. I

have loved to see the interaction on the first part. The first Golmaal, I think,

was when the whole comedy started.

And I think they were fantastic in that film. And I'm sure they had a lot of

outtakes that I would have loved to see.

Lovely. That was a rapid fire round.

Now we move from Kajal to Rani. Rani, brace yourself. Are you ready?

Yeah. If not Kajal, who else would you have liked to share the coffee couch

today and why?

I think my husband.

Because he would never come.

That's really wishful thinking. That means you would have been sitting with a

pillow. Yeah. Exactly.

It will give me a lot of me time with you then.

If you were to be known by just one film of yours, which one would it be?

Black. Lovely.

A good trait from Aditya Chopra you wish get passed on to your daughter?

I think his mental strength and his discipline.

Salman, Shah Rukh, Saif or Aamir, who do you believe you had the best on -screen

chemistry with?

Shah Rukh.

Okay. Aishwarya or Kajal, who did you exchange lesser words in the 2000s?

Kajal did it. Kajal.

You spoke more to Aishwarya.

Yeah. Alright. What's the one thing that the current crop of actors can learn

from your generation of actors?

Being less stressed out.

Because I think when I see the generation today, I think they're

about everything.

About success and failure. Success, failure. I think their looks. I think

because everybody's judged so much for everything that they're always very

stressed. I think because when we were around, I think there was only magazines

or newspapers.

Now there's social media. Now there's social media. One question no one would

dare ask you.

No, I think to ask, anyone can ask anything. But the question is whether I

answer it.

A marriage pro tip you would like to give the newlyweds of Bollywood?

Take your time and then choose your partner.

All right. Finish the sentence. The one thing I missed about how the industry

was in the 2000s is?

Both Yash uncles are not there.

I think it was a different industry when Yash uncle, my father -in -law and your

dad Yash uncle were around. I think there was a lot of, like it was a

time. Well, we have a Yash to her now.

Yes, we do.

Yes. I'm not on social media because?

Because I really can't, you know, show my personal life on social media.

And I feel that if a celebrity or an actor or anybody is on social media,

our duty to be able to show all aspects of our life. And if I can't do that,

then I'd rather not be on it.

The funniest rumor you've ever heard about your private life?

That Adi is coming for coffee with Karan.

A role you turned down that became a huge hit later?

So I did not turn down this role. It was a particular filmmaker who didn't

release my date and because of which I could not do Ladaan. Oh, that's sad. I

remember that. Yeah. It wasn't me, no?

No, it wasn't you because you were very nice.

Yeah.

One thing actors lie the most about?

The availability of dates when they don't want to do a film.

Correct. I know that. Correct. I'm a producer. The producer in you is like...

Which 90s, early 2000s celebrity should win the Lifetime Achievement Awards for

hosting the best parties?

I think Gauri Khan and Sunita Kapoor. Gauri Khan and Sunita Kapoor. If it had

consequence... You're not on the list.

Yeah, like I left out.

Okay, if it had no consequence whatsoever, what is the one thing you

to say to film critics?

Write what you truly feel.

If you had to join one of the YRF's five worst Pathan Tiger franchise or war,

which actor's team would you pick and why?

Actually, I would ask them to join my team because I have a Mardani franchise.

Oh.

I would ask them to join my team.

Why should you pick their team? You should have said it now when he said

five of us. You should have said Mardani in it also.

I don't remember asking you for your inputs on her rapid fire.

Shut up.

Thank you. All right. That was Rani Mukherjee's rapid fire. We are done with

Kajal's rapid fire.

I leave it to judge, jury and judgment.

The three Js. Let's see what the... This is a stress tension full time. Both did

exceedingly well. Let's see where the cookie crumbles. If it does crumble at

all. Karan.

I have nothing to do with it. These are these people. You can go inside and do

whatever you need to. If you announce this verdict wrong, just think about it.

All right. Here goes the winner.

That's it.

That's it.

I can't take it anymore.

That's it. No, no, no, Taran.

Taran.

Can we see it again? Thank you.

Confirm. Can we confirm? Give me the hamper now.

Hey, don't break it. Catch. Don't break it. Listen, I know you're capable.

Give me the hamper. If you don't give me the hamper right now. Please take it.

Rani, can I give you... Yeah.

Can we see Rani Mukherjee officially wins? I don't think I can take this. I

cannot take it anymore.

Kajal, you can't... Staging a walkout. I'm staging a walkout right now. What?

No. Kajal, sit down. You lost. It's fine. But you still get the love.

And you can't say that coffee is a cheater. He is a cheater. Because it

me. Yes, I can.

The risk was rigged.

I put it in the middle so Kajal can pretend. You're looking really

uncomfortable. I want to put it in the middle so Kajal can feel like she won

How did this walk of yours feel like edited out? No, I don't care. I look

an old lady.

No, no, that exists.

I look like an old person.

All right. Thank you, Judge Yuri, for your judgment.

Thank you. Thank you.

And I want to say... By the way, hello.

This is the first time I win the hamper. Ever.

That's it, Karan. This is rigged. This is rigged. It's just rigged. Well, you

know we're shooting at YRF.

How dare you? I knew it. How dare you? You're all employees of YRF.

And I think they have done some controlling.

Yeah, for sure.

Hmm. Husband can't say, can't say, but she washes the back.

Yes, then?

You got the AC switched off, you got the AC switched off. She is the queen of

the studio.

The queen has just called.

Cheat, cheat.

We are here. Karan?

You and me, Karan. That's it.

Don't you want parents square?

Clap, clap, applause, applause, applause, applause.

You won the quiz.

Which you didn't deserve to because you all didn't know anything.

And you have won by the judge and jury.

All J's. Lovely.

Now, I just want to say thank you. I love you both.

immensely. Between us, collectively, we have years and memories that will never,

ever fade away. This has been a grand, grand coffee date for me. And I hope

we can do this again without the cameras rolling. It was so much fun. Thank you,

Kajal. Thank you, Rani. I love you.

Like I tell my kids, I love them to the moon and back. And that's the same thing

I will say to both of you. I love you to the moon and back. It's what I taught

them to say, so they say it quite efficiently.

Both of them say it.

Kisses, hugs, love.

And before you go, I want you to sign the mug right next to you, Kajal. I

win the ample.

I'm not signing.