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[Borzillieri] Three things
you need to know
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about Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong.
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The first... she was never
what you would call normal.
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As a kid, she grew faster, was awkward...
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lonely.
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When her parents built her
this life-size dollhouse,
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the neighborhood kids
finally came over to play.
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Marjorie grew up to be a beautiful,
smart, young woman.
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She earned a master's degree in education.
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People found her captivating.
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Especially men,
who would do almost anything for her.
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I've been talking with Marge
for over a decade.
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This is one of the boxes
of letters from Marge.
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And this is probably about...
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Oh, I don't know, maybe half
of the letters through the years.
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Yeah, there's just-- It's just endless.
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I'm trying to get her to tell me the truth
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about a pizza deliveryman and a crime
that became FBI major case number 203.
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[Marjorie] I'm trying to prevent
your movie from being a flop.
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I am not some evil genius
who was greedy and wanted some guy
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to rob a bank for me.
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I didn't have anything to do
with the goddamn crime!
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-[woman 1] 911, what's your emergency?
-[woman 2] We've been robbed.
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-[woman 1] Okay, stay on the line.
-[woman 2] Okay.
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-[woman 1] Is anyone hurt?
-[woman 2] No.
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[man] The guy walked out with
I don't know how much cash in a bag.
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He had a bomb or something
wrapped around his neck.
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He's sitting in a parking lot
on upper Peach.
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I'm watching him
out my rearview mirror.
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[woman 3] The man told police that
the bomb had been strapped to his body
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and that he was forced to rob the bank.
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Maybe you can get the keys?
To get out of this thing.
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I don't know if I have enough time.
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I'm not lying!
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[bomb beeping]
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It's gonna go off.
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[King] My name is Lamont King.
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A retired corporal with Pennsylvania
State Police, crime unit supervisor.
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On the, uh, 28th of August...
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...of, uh, 2003,
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uh, I was in my office, and received
information that the PNC Bank,
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located directly across here,
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uh, had been robbed by an individual
apparently wearing a collar bomb.
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Brian Wells walked into the bank with
a cane and the collar around his neck.
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We later learned that the, uh, cane,
it was actually a gun, a cane gun.
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He handed the teller a note.
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The notes were nine pages.
They were quite rambling in places.
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There were a couple that were
instructions for Brian. There were...
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One that he was to give
to the bank manager.
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One was for police.
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Bank notes are...
"I have a gun. Give me all your money."
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I mean, they're not usually dissertations
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that are miles long.
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He had asked for $250,000.
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In the end, all he got was what was
in the drawers, somewhere around $8,000.
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[King] He exited the bank,
stopped at McDonald's
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and picked up apparently, a note.
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Got his vehicle on the road,
proceeded to head south on Route 19,
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which is Peach Street,
when our units arrived,
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at which time
our units spotted his vehicle
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and pulled him over
in the Eyeglass World parking lot.
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I was assigned
to the patrol unit here in Erie,
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and was riding my motorcycle.
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I was made aware of the situation
going on over on Peach Street.
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[newsman] Police captured
Brian Wells, age 46,
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a pizza deliveryman,
just minutes after he left the bank.
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[Morgan] We got him and handcuffed him.
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And Brian said something about a bomb.
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It was Trooper Syzmanski who went up
and, using a small pair of scissors,
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cut the sides of the shirt, because
whatever he had was underneath.
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When Syzmanski lifted the shirt, he goes:
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"Yeah, that looks like a bomb."
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That's when they sat him down
to isolate him.
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[man 1] I'm gonna need a radio out here.
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[man 2] This guy's looking right at us.
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[man 1] Shoo them all over to 90.
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[King] When I pulled up, the general
consensus is it was probably a fake bomb,
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but we never know,
so we act like it's real.
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When I arrived, uh, he was already
on his knees, cuffed,
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and he was talking calmly.
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We were going back and forth with him
being a willing participant or a hostage.
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Can you at least take these
freakin' handcuffs off?
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[King] I look through binoculars,
and he's talking.
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He's nervous, but he's not
talking agitated. He's not agitated.
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Why is it nobody's trying to come
to get this thing off of me?
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He was concerned about
getting the collar off.
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It's gonna go off!
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[Morgan] Soon as we believed we had
a bomb, the call went to Erie bomb squad.
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It's just unfortunate that they were
probably over ten miles away.
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And another unfortunate thing is that
in the process of protecting the public
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by closing down Peach Street,
we've now created a traffic problem
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that the bomb squad
has to contend with this traffic.
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-Did you call my boss?
-Yeah, we called him.
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We realized what pizza shop he worked at,
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and I sent two guys there
to conduct interviews.
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[newsman] Coworkers at Mama Mia's Pizzaria
saw Wells leave
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to deliver two sausage and pepperoni pies
to a remote location,
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an unoccupied radio tower.
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He said black people, uh, jumped him
and put the collar around his neck.
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He pulled the key out and started a timer.
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I heard the thing ticking when he did it.
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[King] He never said who it was.
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He couldn't describe the black individuals
he claimed put the bomb around his neck.
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You know there's probably
not a black person involved,
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but that's what they're gonna say.
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I was wondering if you guys could
get those instructions to go get the keys.
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At that time, I start hearing a beep.
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- His whole demeanor changed.
-[bomb beeping]
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Maybe you can get the keys?
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To get out of this thing.
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I don't know if I have enough time now.
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[King] It's at that time that he realized
that it is a real bomb.
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I'm not lying.
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[King] I don't think he realized
until it started beeping.
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...tell you where to get the keys.
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Can you go to the next site in the car?
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-I don't have a lot of time.
-We're gonna have to...
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[King] He was getting excited, and then
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I kept hearing it. It, you know,
was going beep, beep.
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I was zoomed in on his face.
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It's gonna go off!
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-I'm not lying!
-[bomb beeping faster]
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[King] His eyes just got real wide.
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Then they went to the back of his head.
And that was the end of him.
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A few minutes ago,
I was looking in that direction.
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The man was sitting there
as he was since about 3:00
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when all of a sudden a loud explosion,
and he flipped onto his back,
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and the police troopers scrambled.
They're still holding guns on him.
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They're still not sure of his condition.
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My name's Tom Stankiewicz.
On August 28th, 2003,
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I was the bomb squad commander
for Erie Police.
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Within about four blocks of our arrival,
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we received information over the radio
a bomb exploded on this suspect.
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He had still been breathing up until
a couple of...
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Really until the moment before
we had arrived.
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We put on bomb suits, took up
the necessary equipment we might need.
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On approaching the person at the scene,
it was evident that he was deceased.
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The suspect still had
part of the device secured to his neck.
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We went through to make sure there were
no more explosive devices on him,
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and searched his vehicle for any
potential further explosive devices.
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[King] Brian was to go
on a scavenger hunt.
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[Morgan] He was supposed to go from
point A to point B to point C to point D
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to get further instructions
to eventually lead him to a location
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where the keys would be given
to release this bomb.
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[King] He was following instructions
from the McDonald's to this site.
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Contacted the bomb squad.
They came in and swept the area.
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The clue was sitting in the, uh--
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In a coffee can,
maybe five or ten yards off the berm.
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Just to the right of this sign.
It's not too far from the sign.
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From the drop-off point number one,
which was Interchange Road,
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he was to go to his next drop-off point,
which was on 79 South,
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pretty close to the McKean Township exit.
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Where we are is the second place
for the scavenger hunt
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that he was directed to come to.
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What we found here
as we were looking for other items...
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Uh, we found an orange tape sign
with "Vietnam" on it.
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As we were looking in through here,
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I noticed way back on the other side
of that field
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a minivan coming this way
and started to come towards us.
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But it looked like he was coming to this
point also and we surprised him.
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And, uh, when he saw us,
he stopped for a while,
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hesitated, backed up, and took off.
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And he was so far away, we couldn't drive
up through here. He basically got away.
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It was like a, uh, blue type,
dirty blue type van.
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I figured whoever was responsible
for leaving the notes was in that van.
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Leaving the notes
at both the drop-off points.
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Actually, that van always bothered me.
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Always bothered me.
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We did our preliminary investigation
and referred it right back to the FBI,
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but the van was never mentioned again.
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Initially when the call came in,
it was a state police case
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because we had had a crime
committed within our jurisdiction.
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And being a bank, federal investigators
would eventually be brought in.
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Of course, there's always a brief
jurisdictional dispute.
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ATF and the FBI and the state police,
everybody had a huddle.
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And they're like, "Whose case is this?"
ATF says,
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"We have jurisdiction
because it's an explosive device."
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Uh, state police said,
"This was on our turf."
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FBI said, "No, this is a bank
robbery case, which the FBI handles."
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They went back and forth a bit. Turned out
that the FBI was gonna take point,
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assisted by the state police and the ATF.
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[Clark] My name is Jerry Clark.
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I was the lead investigator
as a special agent for the FBI.
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Night of the bombing,
I drafted an affidavit with the, uh,
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U.S. Attorney's office,
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and we executed a search warrant
at Brian Wells' residence.
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We made entry into Mr. Wells' residence
using an explosive breach,
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because we weren't sure
what we were gonna find.
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Once inside, we didn't find a whole lot.
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But we did find interesting things,
including an address book
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that had the names and telephone numbers
of some local prostitutes.
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We never did find any physical evidence
that linked him to the bombing.
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[Timon] It was 3 in the morning
by the time we transported him back
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to the coroner's office.
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We started discussing the collar.
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It was the primary
piece of evidence at the time.
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Uh, and, of course, uh, the other agencies
didn't want that disrupted very much.
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It said in the note the collar was
booby-trapped, but my concern was safety.
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That's when the decision was made
to do a, uh,
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essentially a surgical decapitation
of the body.
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[King]
In order for them to remove the device,
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they had to actually cut
his head off to remove it.
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[Timon] It was, probably still is,
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the most difficult decision
I've ever made.
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It was done in a way that was, uh...
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I mean, it's difficult to describe,
but it was done in a very, uh...
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caring way.
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[newsman] 43-year-old Brian Wells, who
lived in a nice Mill Creek neighborhood,
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was described by neighbors as very
friendly, very nice, almost childlike.
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[Payne] My name is Linda Payne,
and Brian lived in this little house.
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And he was a good renter.
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He did have three cats
that he kept inside all the time.
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Once in a while, he'd carry one out.
He was pretty even-tempered.
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Uh, if he did get excited,
he danced a little.
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It was just the way he was. You know.
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[chuckles]
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Sometimes he would take his mother
to the movies.
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If there was a free concert,
he'd take his mother and her friend.
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He liked scavenger hunts,
the key hunt in the paper.
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They put clues in the paper every day,
and it would be some landmark place
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around the county that the key would be.
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Once he got close but missed it
by a little bit and didn't get it.
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So he was disappointed about that.
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They might have made the scavenger hunt
because they knew he liked them.
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[Clark] The description of Mr. Wells
in the bank was very calm.
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Actually stood on line for a second
before he decided to go around
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one of the customers in the bank
to hand the teller a note.
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Actually reached into the basket
to pull out a lollipop.
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Why would you feel comfortable
enough and take a lollipop?
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Why would you, as the witness described,
walk out of the bank like Charlie Chaplin,
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swinging the bag and the cane gun?
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Why or how could an individual
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who knew they had a live device
around their neck be so calm?
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I didn't think that he was involved.
I thought, he-- They...
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He might be easy to, um...
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uh, influence.
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I thought it'd be easy to grab him
and put the collar bomb on.
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[Clark] The call was made
to the pizza delivery shop at 1:30.
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We determined that came from the Shell
station not far from the delivery site.
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Mr. Tony Ditomo, the owner of the
pizza shop, initially took the call.
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And he was talking to that person,
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and he was having trouble understanding,
so he handed the phone to Brian Wells,
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and Brian Wells wrote his own directions
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to the tower where the pizzas
were to be delivered.
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[Bremner] Could this dirt road
be the fateful spot
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where Wells met the person or persons
who would end his life?
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This secluded site
is the last delivery spot for Wells.
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Now the question is, was the man forced
to rob the bank by someone else?
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[Clark] We found and recovered,
through the Pennsylvania State Police,
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who did a fantastic job
in evidence recovery, tire impressions
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that indicated that Brian Wells' vehicle
was at this site.
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We also had shoe impressions.
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Mr. Wells' shoe, his sneaker,
that indicated that he was at this site.
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All right? And we had a scuff mark,
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uh, right in the, uh, this area right here
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that indicated that there was some
sort of struggle that had ensued.
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A case of this size, you would think
that somewhere in the pieces recovered
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you'd have some evidence
that could be used forensically.
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We took every step we could
to develop DNA,
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fingerprints, any forensic evidence
that we could use to compare,
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and we just didn't have much luck
with that in this case.
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[Heid] Good morning.
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My name is Jean Heid.
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I'm one of Brian Wells' three sisters.
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I first heard about the suffering
and death of my brother, Brian,
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on the news.
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Brian was handcuffed.
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The officers continued to point their guns
at him,
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even though he was fully cooperating
in their custody.
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And why was no ambulance present
to try to help
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when he laid dying upon the ground,
grasping for life?
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The decision was made
to cut off Brian's head...
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to preserve the collar bomb.
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This beheading of Brian...
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took from us the closure we sought
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by being able to view Brian
at his funeral.
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Tears streamed down Mom's face
as she learned the news
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that Brian's body was not fit
for open-casket viewing.
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The removed head could not be supported
in position.
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More respect was shown
for the destructive device
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than for Brian's body.
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As a kindhearted listener,
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Brian touched our lives
in so many beautiful ways
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by his humble and quiet presence,
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and his devoted, selfless care
and service for our family.
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We believe that what happened
to Brian was monstrous.
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The absence of clarity and truth
in the investigation
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has been a horrendous ordeal
for our entire family.
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[Bremner] Erie has its share, for
a small town, of kind of bizarre events.
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We've had a number of things happen.
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But there is nothing
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that captured the imagination
of the public,
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that raised so many questions,
that was just so...
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sincerely bizarre as this case.
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It's a bank robbery, but a scavenger hunt,
a guy has a cane gun, and it was loaded.
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He had the Guess shirt on.
You know, "Guess what this is."
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It took on this mythic proportion,
'cause it just kept getting weirder.
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This is a Fox News alert.
Breaking news tonight
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in the so-called Pizza Bomber mystery.
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There is a twist
in a bizarre bank-robbery story
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in Erie, Pennsylvania.
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The captured bank robber had a bomb
on him. Now he's dead.
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And so was a coworker, who also died
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under mysterious circumstances.
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The second incident occurred
on Sunday, August 31st,
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when a coworker and friend of Wells,
Robert Thomas Pinetti,
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was discovered unresponsive
by family members.
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[Timon] As the story developed,
and they learned who it was
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and his relationship with
the pizza business and Mr. Wells--
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So, when they got that,
they pulled back.
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Again, a perimeter was set up.
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There was no signs
of any pathologic condition he had,
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like a stroke or a heart attack...
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or anything along those lines.
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Similar scenario to Mr. Wells, he was...
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transported to our office
and an autopsy was done.
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[reporter] Officials hope an autopsy
reveals the cause of that death
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and helps determine whether
the strange fates of the two pizza workers
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are somehow connected.
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[Gluth] I was on the task force
that we worked with the PSP.
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A lot of the FBI, a lot of the ATF.
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There were Erie city officers
assigned to it.
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Well, Bob Pinetti was an important subject
in the investigation,
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because he changed his actions
right after it occurred.
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He got nervous. He was going around.
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We have interviews where he was looking
for some type of protection
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'cause he thought they were coming
after him next.
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[Clark] Initially, Mr. Pinetti was going
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to be interviewed by investigators,
and they had met
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with him at the pizza shop.
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Mr. Pinetti was working a shift
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and asked if he could move his interview
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until Monday.
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Well, as it turned out,
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Monday never came for investigators
because...
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he died that Sunday evening.
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[Gluth] He did appear to have
a drug issue.
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That's something that's not uncommon
in the Erie area. It's a plague right now,
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with all the ODs, with heroin, the pills,
and those types of things.
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And could it be that this added anxiety
from this investigation--?
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His buddy just got a bomb strapped on him
and blew up.
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I get worked up, more drugs to take
the edge off, and accidentally OD.
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Now you have
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a second pizza deliveryman
who has also died.
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The question became:
Did he play a role in this?
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Did he help set Brian up to deliver
that pizza on that day?
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[newsman] The multi-agency task force
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investigating the robbery and the death
of the robber
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is considering three scenarios.
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One, that 46-year-old Brian Wells
committed the robbery on his own.
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But why would he use a live bomb?
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The second scenario,
Wells was abducted by others.
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Told he had 20 minutes to rob the bank
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and get back, or the bomb
they attached would go off.
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Third, that Wells and fellow employee,
43-year-old Robert Pinetti,
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-planned the robbery together.
-[Payne] I did know that he would go
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with Pinetti to do some gambling.
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I figured, maybe he could have
needed money enough to rob a bank.
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Robert was a very gentle fellow,
and he wasn't out to hurt anybody.
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And he wouldn't do that.
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[newswoman] Pinetti, whose health is
clearly failing, says her son is innocent.
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It makes me feel really bad.
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Really bad, when you know
that it's not true. You know?
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That's what hurts.
He didn't have anything to do with it.
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[Bremner] As for Robert Pinetti,
the coworker of Wells who was found dead,
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an autopsy has been completed.
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Preliminary results show, perhaps,
either an accidental overdose or suicide.
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[King] Now we have two dead pizza delivery
guys, and the city's feeling shocked.
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How could this happen?
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You know, who's the mastermind?
Because this made worldwide news.
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[newsman] Was this a robbery gone
wrong, or a sadistic public execution?
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[reporter speaking in Japanese]
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[Clark] We had a few investigative teams
in operation.
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We knew
that Mr. Wells frequented prostitutes.
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We had a prostitute team,
due to the fact that Mr. Wells had
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the prostitutes' names in a notebook.
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We began to run out one potential
suspect at the time that may have had
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knowledge because he was the boyfriend
of one of the prostitutes.
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He had a history of some military
background with explosives,
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that was African-American, that had been
working on a special project at work,
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utilizing the equipment,
would shut the door to the room.
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We had information
that looked interesting.
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And, again, you can't discount
what Mr. Wells had said early,
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though investigators felt,
"It's not accurate."
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But we actually found no evidence
to connect him to the case.
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We had a second team that we called
the Mama Mia's Pizzaria team,
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to investigate one disgruntled
former employee
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who had actually threatened, uh, the owner
of the pizza shop, Mr. Ditomo.
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And we later determined
that he had a good alibi
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and that it was not related to this case.
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We are hopeful
that by showing a picture of the device...
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...someone may have or may recognize...
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the instrument, the metal,
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the locking material used to secure it
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-to the neck.
-[Bremner] Members gave the public
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its first look at the cane shotgun used
in the robbery. For the first time,
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those investigators admitted the gun
was loaded and would have fired.
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It has been tested,
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and it does function properly.
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It is constructed from wood and metal.
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[Bremner] That's important. FBI profilers
believe that whoever built the gun
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and the collar is a handyman
competent with wood and metal.
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He probably collects or makes weapons,
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and may have other cane guns
that he's shown to others.
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He is patient, they say,
and deceptive and secretive.
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[Rudge] Being in control
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is very important for him.
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Through his words,
attempts to tightly control
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the actions of Brian Wells,
as well as law enforcement.
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My name is Jason Wick.
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Uh, I work for ATF.
I've been with ATF for 25 years.
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I had the opportunity to be a part
of the evidence collection team
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at the World Trade Center bombing.
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Uh, and an evidence collection team
on 9/11 in Shanksville,
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where United Flight 93 crashed.
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Without a doubt,
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this case trumps all others
as far as how bizarre it was.
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We had the device put back together.
Problem was, we couldn't match any tools.
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Again, as made very public by Ted
Kaczynski in the Unabomber case,
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bomb makers throw their tools away.
They try not to purchase materials.
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That's what happened here.
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It was going to be
a long-term investigation, not short.
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[Stankiewicz] Part of our role
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as bomb technicians is
to thoroughly go through the scene,
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and collect all the debris and determine
what is part of the device and what isn't.
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In this case, we easily captured
90-some percent of the components.
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From all the components
recovered at the scene,
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I was able to assemble what I believe is
an accurate replica of that device.
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The neck cuff would have operated like
a standard handcuff in that, when closed,
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it would ratchet and lock.
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The case and the collar itself would
have taken
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somebody some time,
probably on the order of a month
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in their spare time to assemble this.
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[Wick] The first timer attached
to the first bomb
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was probably activated
by the release of a cotter pin.
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There's a second cotter pin on there.
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If that pin was pulled,
it would've given Mr. Wells another hour.
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[Stankiewicz] An extension is put
on the handle and it merely swings around
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and closes the contact
when it gets down to zero.
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[Wick] The one thing that sticks out was
all of the red herrings
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that were incorporated into the device.
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Um, that was, in my opinion,
in the investigative team's opinion,
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designed to prevent the bomb squad
from tampering with it.
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There were wires
that didn't mean anything.
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There was a plastic cell phone
that didn't mean anything.
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The device was fairly sophisticated,
although,
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in the end, it was just two pipe bombs
and two timers.
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[Stankiewicz] Interesting thing
about it was,
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the number of warning labels
that were on it.
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And it almost mirrored the instructions
that were given to Wells
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in that they were overly wordy.
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It was a lot of info
that would have been distracting
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for somebody to take in
as they're trying to figure it out.
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It alluded to a lot of different types
of booby traps
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being activated by a cell phone,
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the wire being a booby trap.
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There were a lot of warnings,
to that effect.
458
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,600
[Wick] We're hoping to gain leads on where
the componentry came from.
459
00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:24,200
We tried to determine where those items
may have been purchased.
460
00:35:24,266 --> 00:35:27,633
We tried to ascertain tool marks,
things of that nature.
461
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,400
That was the biggest problem.
We couldn't match anything.
462
00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:35,200
The back plate was scored,
463
00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:37,866
basically cut, I guess,
with a cutting tool,
464
00:35:37,933 --> 00:35:39,500
to cause shrapnel effect.
465
00:35:39,566 --> 00:35:42,066
It was cut into a form of a checkerboard.
466
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,100
It didn't shrapnel, I believe,
467
00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:49,966
as the builder intended.
It did fracture, but it didn't shrapnel.
468
00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:53,933
It didn't blow into pieces,
meaning the scoring wasn't deep enough.
469
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,266
However, it did cause
470
00:35:55,866 --> 00:35:58,733
a severe wound in Mr. Wells's chest,
an inch deep,
471
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,466
maybe 8-by-10 inches square,
which ultimately killed him.
472
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,766
[Bremner] Task force members say
the bomb that killed Wells
473
00:36:06,833 --> 00:36:10,533
was common, but that the collar
was unique, with four key locks
474
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,466
and a tumbler lock.
475
00:36:12,533 --> 00:36:14,500
It had only one purpose:
476
00:36:14,566 --> 00:36:17,400
To hold a bomb around a human neck.
477
00:36:18,633 --> 00:36:21,366
Of the four keyholes,
there were only two locks
478
00:36:21,433 --> 00:36:23,100
keeping the device locked.
479
00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:25,533
If he would've recovered two of the keys,
480
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,166
he could've unlocked it,
but I don't believe
481
00:36:28,233 --> 00:36:32,733
he was ever going to find those keys.
I believe he was meant to die that day.
482
00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:45,533
The scavenger hunt,
that whole game playing, that whole:
483
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,100
"Let's control the situation.
Let's send the police on a sideshow."
484
00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:53,766
Yeah, I thought the scavenger hunt
was a red herring.
485
00:36:53,833 --> 00:36:54,966
It was a diversion.
486
00:36:56,433 --> 00:36:59,300
Investigators wanted to determine
487
00:36:59,366 --> 00:37:04,366
if we had time to trace the route
that Wells was to actually go through.
488
00:37:04,433 --> 00:37:09,533
And we actually got in the vehicle,
same time of day, same day of the week,
489
00:37:10,066 --> 00:37:11,933
same weather conditions,
490
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,533
and drove the route.
491
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:17,466
[Bremner] Erie County is the smokestack
492
00:37:17,533 --> 00:37:19,500
on the corner of Pennsylvania.
493
00:37:19,566 --> 00:37:22,700
It gives Pennsylvania its access
to the Great Lakes.
494
00:37:22,766 --> 00:37:26,966
Water on one side, New York State
to the other, Ohio to the other side.
495
00:37:27,033 --> 00:37:30,233
Banks on upper Peach Tree are near
the I-90 Interstate,
496
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:33,266
where you can be in one
of two different states in 20 minutes.
497
00:37:33,333 --> 00:37:37,433
The way to rob a bank in Erie County
498
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:40,933
is to switch vehicles,
rob it in one vehicle, switch vehicles,
499
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,433
get on the interstate, be in another state
in 20 minutes, avoiding detection.
500
00:37:46,466 --> 00:37:49,933
Here were people that put
this complex scavenger-hunt thing,
501
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,700
where you go around in this big circle,
502
00:37:52,766 --> 00:37:55,833
and go round and round in circles
near the crime site.
503
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,633
To whom does that make sense?
Doesn't make sense to anyone.
504
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,766
[Clark] It was determined that Brian Wells
505
00:38:05,833 --> 00:38:08,566
could've not finished the route,
506
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,666
in time, before the detonation
of that device.
507
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:20,766
[newswoman] The FBI released parts of
the letter, in hopes of getting a reaction
508
00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:25,400
from the public, hoping they recognize
the handwriting or linguistic skills.
509
00:38:27,566 --> 00:38:30,333
[Wick] Of course we tried
to match the writing.
510
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,066
And I think, early on,
it was fairly agreed upon that
511
00:38:34,133 --> 00:38:38,200
notes looked like they were typed
and traced from a typed piece of paper.
512
00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:42,500
Look at the margins, the indentation.
They're consistent with a typewriter.
513
00:38:42,566 --> 00:38:45,100
Matching handwriting was not going
to happen.
514
00:38:45,166 --> 00:38:48,566
The best lead we had from the notes
was indented writing.
515
00:38:48,633 --> 00:38:50,833
[Bremner] Lab workers
lifted these images,
516
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,566
pressed into instructions
found in Wells' car,
517
00:38:53,633 --> 00:38:58,033
probably by the crime's mastermind
writing over the notes on other paper.
518
00:38:59,233 --> 00:39:03,500
We had some phone numbers, and we had
some writing that the lab discovered
519
00:39:03,566 --> 00:39:08,400
through their examination that, again,
were pretty good leads, but led nowhere.
520
00:39:10,566 --> 00:39:13,866
[Bremner] Only 2 or 3 percent
of bank robberies are done
521
00:39:13,933 --> 00:39:16,200
with any kind of explosive device.
522
00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:17,700
And of those,
523
00:39:17,766 --> 00:39:21,600
only a very small, less than 1 percent,
is done with a live device.
524
00:39:24,766 --> 00:39:28,700
We have had instances
where individuals, um...
525
00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:32,366
state that they do have
an explosive device or a bomb.
526
00:39:32,433 --> 00:39:35,233
However, certainly, this is the first time
527
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,700
that a device has actually, uh, exploded.
528
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,433
[Wick] I've never seen a device strapped
around anybody's neck.
529
00:39:44,933 --> 00:39:48,933
We've heard of fake devices,
people coming into banks,
530
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,966
or going into businesses
with fake devices, saying, "I have a bomb.
531
00:39:53,033 --> 00:39:54,833
Please comply with my demands."
532
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:57,900
Um, but never wrapped
around somebody's neck.
533
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,933
[Clark] The reason this case was elevated
to FBI major case number 203,
534
00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:07,933
something like this had never happened
in the history of the FBI
535
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,533
where a potential hostage is sent
into the bank
536
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,500
with a device, ordered to rob the bank,
and the device detonates,
537
00:40:18,566 --> 00:40:21,233
resulting in death.
This had never happened.
538
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,266
Somebody murdered Brian Wells that day.
539
00:40:25,766 --> 00:40:28,900
Whether he was involved or not,
it's still a murder.
540
00:40:32,633 --> 00:40:36,000
[Bremner] FBI profilers
from the Behavioral Analysis Unit say
541
00:40:36,066 --> 00:40:39,666
the plan's mastermind,
a person they call "Collar Bomber,"
542
00:40:39,733 --> 00:40:42,733
may have had Wells' death in mind
all along.
543
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,166
The end result ended in the murder
and death of Brian Wells,
544
00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:50,166
and, uh, again, according to BAU, um...
545
00:40:50,966 --> 00:40:55,433
that is probably, in their opinion,
one of the motives in the case.
546
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:59,533
[Bremner] Also released, more details
about Collar Bomber from the profilers,
547
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,433
saying that the person involved is frugal,
a pack rat who might save scrap metal,
548
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:08,200
is mechanically inclined,
could hide a violent nature...
549
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:13,400
There was a lot of tips coming in,
but nothing that was a smoking gun.
550
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,000
And then it fizzled out.
551
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,233
[Clark] This case did not have
a lot of forensic evidence.
552
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:29,666
This case was gonna involve somebody
spilling a secret, quite honestly.
553
00:41:29,733 --> 00:41:32,300
It was gonna involve somebody coming out
554
00:41:32,366 --> 00:41:35,900
and saying, "I have some information
that can help you."
555
00:41:47,066 --> 00:41:50,200
[Borzillieri] The second thing to know
about Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong,
556
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,633
she's smart.
557
00:41:52,666 --> 00:41:54,333
But she's also mentally ill.
558
00:41:56,066 --> 00:41:59,400
When Marge was 23,
she took herself to see a therapist
559
00:41:59,466 --> 00:42:01,133
because she was scared.
560
00:42:01,766 --> 00:42:03,433
Something was wrong with her mind.
561
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,533
She told the doctor
562
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,566
she was most sad about her inability
to have close, gratifying relationships.
563
00:42:12,666 --> 00:42:16,633
Over the years, Marjorie's been seen
by numerous experts
564
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:18,633
who diagnosed several conditions:
565
00:42:19,066 --> 00:42:20,066
Bipolar.
566
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Mania.
567
00:42:22,266 --> 00:42:23,500
Pressured speech.
568
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:29,133
One psychiatrist suggested
Marjorie wasn't mentally ill.
569
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,033
She just suffered from narcissism
and a severe personality disorder.
570
00:42:34,166 --> 00:42:36,933
Regardless,
Marjorie couldn't hold down a job.
571
00:42:37,366 --> 00:42:40,800
She struggled with daily life,
started to let herself go.
572
00:42:42,066 --> 00:42:45,733
In one of her therapy sessions,
she sighed and told the doctor:
573
00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:48,633
"I used to be the prettiest girl in town."
574
00:42:50,933 --> 00:42:53,766
The third thing you need to know
about Marjorie:
575
00:42:55,066 --> 00:42:58,466
Most of the men in her life don't seem
to last very long.
576
00:43:00,666 --> 00:43:03,633
For example, the one time
she was briefly married,
577
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,133
her husband, Richard Armstrong,
578
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,533
died after he fell and hit his head
on their coffee table.
579
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:15,433
Marge sued the hospital for negligence
and won a $175,000 settlement.
580
00:43:16,633 --> 00:43:21,066
Before her husband was buried,
Marge asked for a piece of his leg bone,
581
00:43:21,566 --> 00:43:24,566
in case she might be able
to clone him in the future.
582
00:43:25,033 --> 00:43:27,633
And then there are
the other dead boyfriends.
583
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:29,900
One hung himself after she moved out.
584
00:43:30,366 --> 00:43:34,133
There are at least five men in her life
585
00:43:34,733 --> 00:43:39,200
that died prematurely
of either strange circumstances
586
00:43:39,266 --> 00:43:41,433
or by outright violence.
587
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:45,500
[phone line ringing]
588
00:43:45,566 --> 00:43:47,733
[dispatcher] State Police,
what's your emergency?
589
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,266
[man] At 8645 Peach Street, in the garage,
there is a frozen body,
590
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:58,233
it's in the freezer. There's a woman there
you might wanna pick up and question.
591
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,100
-[dispatcher] 8645 Peach Street?
-Yes.
592
00:44:01,166 --> 00:44:03,000
[dispatcher] How do you know that, sir?
593
00:44:03,466 --> 00:44:05,333
-[man] Trust me. I know.
-Who are you?
594
00:44:06,266 --> 00:44:09,033
-[man] I'm the guy who lives there.
-What is your name, sir?
595
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:11,100
[man] Bill... Rothstein...
596
00:44:18,033 --> 00:44:21,366
-[dispatcher] And what is her name?
-Marjorie... Diehl.
597
00:44:21,433 --> 00:44:22,866
D-I-E-H-L.
598
00:44:22,933 --> 00:44:26,133
-Marjorie Diehl is at that residence now?
-[Rothstein] Yes.
599
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,066
[dispatcher] Who is she to you, sir?
600
00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:31,700
[Rothstein] Uh... I'll give you guys
my story later on.
601
00:44:32,433 --> 00:44:34,800
[dispatcher]
There's a frozen body in the freezer?
602
00:44:34,866 --> 00:44:36,566
[Rothstein] In the garage,
that is correct.
603
00:44:36,633 --> 00:44:38,933
[dispatcher] Do you know who the person is
in the freezer?
604
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,933
[Rothstein] Uh...
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